[00:02:47] <AaronSchulz>	brion: I love the "did you mean" on search :)
[00:04:46] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43105 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[00:05:52] <CIA-59>	(bug 15737) Fix notices while expanding using PPCustomFrame. Patch by Juliano F. Ravasi.
[00:05:54] <CIA-59>	In PPCustomFrame_DOM and PPCustomFrame_Hash, no checking is performed in
[00:05:54] <CIA-59>	getArgument() when arguments not contained in frames are requested, causing PHP
[00:05:55] <CIA-59>	undefined variable error messages. This happens while expanding templates using
[00:05:55] <CIA-59>	a custom frame.
[00:05:56] <CIA-59>	A simple check is needed using isset(), just like those found in PPFrame_* and PPTemplateFrame_*.
[00:05:57] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED)  Handling of unknown parameters while expanding using PPCustomFrame's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15737  +comment (10siebrand)
[00:06:14] <brion>	AaronSchulz: thank rainman-sr :D
[00:06:29] <brion>	now if we can get stuff like that into the default mysql-backed search... ;)
[00:07:29] <AaronSchulz>	was about to say that ;)
[00:07:36] *AaronSchulz 	hopes brion could review those deletion patches
[00:08:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow refs to be hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15724  +comment (10siebrand)
[00:09:38] <siebrand>	Dantman: ping?
[00:10:34] <Dantman>	Hmmm?
[00:10:36] <siebrand>	Dantman: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15398 WONTFIX?
[00:10:56] <siebrand>	(per you and Simetrical)
[00:11:35] <Simetrical>	siebrand, sure.
[00:11:43] <siebrand>	oki.
[00:12:18] <siebrand>	Waiting for Daniel's response before closing :)
[00:12:42] <Mww113>	I have a problem with Extension:SocialProfile
[00:13:08] <Dantman>	Ya
[00:13:14] <Mww113>	I can see relationship requests, but when I click accept or deny and refresh the page, the request reappears.
[00:13:21] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Wikibits patch #1 - style and compactness - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15398  +comment (10siebrand)
[00:13:26] <Dantman>	No-one has given a single new rationale in favor of it
[00:13:55] <Mww113>	Dantman: Can you help?
[00:14:08] <Dantman>	One sec, dealing with a bored vandal
[00:14:25] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Wikibits patch #2 - disable unused code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15399  +comment (10siebrand)
[00:15:25] <Dantman>	Hmm... nope, never dealt with SocialProfile
[00:15:55] <Mww113>	ok
[00:17:58] <siebrand>	Simetrical: you've been involved in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15400 . Can you check if https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=5294 is commit ready?
[00:19:03] <Simetrical>	siebrand, it's on my list.
[00:19:14] <siebrand>	Simetrical: all those wikibits issues?
[00:19:35] <Simetrical>	siebrand, all the ones with outstanding patches I haven't commented on are, I think.  3, 4, 5, 9.
[00:20:03] <siebrand>	oki, I'll just leave them for now until the next round of keyword 'patch' checking...
[00:20:25] <siebrand>	"patch" down by 12 or something.
[00:33:14] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43106 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/templates/NoLocalSettings.php): 
[00:33:14] <CIA-59>	(bug 15544) Non-index entry points cause the "Wiki not set up" message to have corrupt URLs. Patch by Matt Johnston with tiny changes in comments.
[00:33:14] <CIA-59>	Fixed patch compared to r40719, finds the correct path if in any subdirectory (of those listed) or if in the main directory. Also validates if it has the right place.
[00:33:32] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Non-index entry points cause the "Wiki not set up" message to have corrupt URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15544  +comment (10siebrand)
[00:39:42] <techman224>	Where are all the special pages included in the software located?
[00:40:49] <Soxred>	includes/specials
[00:41:47] <techman224>	thnaks
[00:41:52] <techman224>	thanks
[00:42:01] <Dantman>	^_^ Yay for path changes, heh
[00:42:12] <Dantman>	They all used to be includes/Special*.php
[00:42:27] <Dantman>	Now they're includes/specials/Special*.php
[00:42:29] <Dantman>	heh
[00:57:06] <Dantman>	Ahah...
[00:58:08] <Dantman>	Souseiseki: ^_^ Wanna guess how many people in this channel actually know where those 2 names you used come from? heh
[01:10:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow refs to be hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15724  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[01:12:49] <gewt>	why does mediawiki show a DIFFERENT time than the server it's hsoted on?
[01:12:51] <gewt>	(for me)
[01:13:12] <gewt>	mediawiki is like 5 hours ahead
[01:14:13] <Dantman>	Timezones?
[01:14:28] <Souseiseki>	Dantman: You know where my names come from???? :O
[01:14:54] <gewt>	Dantman, is it possible to ste tiemzones in LocalSettigns.php or soemthign?
[01:14:59] <Dantman>	Souseiseki: ^_^ I do watch enough anime to have come across Rozen Maiden
[01:15:20] <Dantman>	gewt: MW always uses UTC
[01:15:31] <Souseiseki>	-_- yay!
[01:15:38] <_mary_kate_>	unless you change it to not use utc
[01:16:00] <gewt>	how do ylou change it?
[01:16:38] <Dantman>	Souseiseki: ^_^ Rozen Maden was one of the few that got a 5/5 from me, Traumend got a 4.75, and Ouverture got a 4.5
[01:16:51] *chuck 	knows where Souseiseki's name comes from by reading the article about desu a while ago :P
[01:17:34] <Souseiseki>	:P
[01:17:47] <chuck>	s/desu/desu on encyclopedia dramatica/
[01:17:59] <Dantman>	^_^ I need to find a better method of organizing my watchlist
[01:18:01] <Souseiseki>	I never would have thought... *mummers something about developers and anime*
[01:18:08] <Dantman>	heh
[01:18:16] <Souseiseki>	Dantman: Do you watch Naruto Shippuuden?
[01:18:32] <Dantman>	I have the odd tripple interest of Programming, Anime, and Wiki communities
[01:18:44] <Dantman>	Ya, ;) I just finished an episode right now
[01:18:56] <_mary_kate_>	anime nerd, web programming nerd... am i repeating myself?
[01:19:01] <_mary_kate_>	hardly seems unusual ;)
[01:19:05] <chuck>	:P
[01:19:14] <Dantman>	heh, at least I managed to combine my interests
[01:19:48] <Dantman>	^_^ I administrate a few wiki communities about anime, and program the software that they run on... heh
[01:20:05] <chuck>	haha
[01:20:08] <Dantman>	Souseiseki: Actually, I'm the admin for the Narutopedia
[01:20:33] <Souseiseki>	:O thats where I remember your name from
[01:20:38] <Dantman>	heh
[01:20:47] <Souseiseki>	:P
[01:20:57] <Dantman>	That project really took off more than I thought
[01:21:31] *gewt 	eats UTC
[01:21:49] <Dantman>	^_^ before I knew it, it got big enough to spread false facts through the net
[01:21:50] <gewt>	it gives me the wrong day ):<
[01:22:16] <Dantman>	One of our editors mistranslated Kirabi as Kira Hachi, and it ended up spread through the net
[01:23:12] <Souseiseki>	lol
[01:23:30] <Souseiseki>	the only project that I am active on right now is mediation.wikia.com
[01:24:21] <Dantman>	Ahah... as I thought, there was one http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Rozen_Maiden
[01:24:38] <Souseiseki>	Wikia is sadly having problems. Our backend servers are not responding. We are working to fix it as soon as possible. 
[01:24:40] <Souseiseki>	:|
[01:24:43] <Dantman>	mhmm
[01:25:25] <Dantman>	Someone already poked cruc
[01:25:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow refs to be hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15724  (10thomas.dalton)
[01:27:09] <Souseiseki>	Its back Ｏ(≧∇≦)Ｏ
[01:27:35] <Dantman>	Ah, to bad...
[01:27:46] <Dantman>	Just another one of the many dead end ones
[01:28:01] <Souseiseki>	:P
[01:28:03] <Souseiseki>	<Daniel walks into class late>
[01:28:05] <Souseiseki>	Math/Calculus/Physics Teacher: Daniel, why are you late?
[01:28:07] <Souseiseki>	Daniel: The back tire on my bike exploded.
[01:28:08] <Dantman>	To many of the anime wiki get started, but never pick up
[01:28:09] <Souseiseki>	Teacher shouts to class: Now THAT! Is a reason!
[01:28:11] <Dantman>	heh
[01:28:35] <Dantman>	^_^ That was a fun day walking into calss
[01:28:38] <Dantman>	class*
[01:28:57] <Souseiseki>	That actually happened?
[01:28:59] <Souseiseki>	(￣▽￣)ノ＿彡
[01:29:17] <Dantman>	heh
[01:29:41] <Dantman>	Weather, you know... snow, preasure differences
[01:30:21] <Dantman>	^_^ It was perfect since he was a physics teacher
[01:30:50] <Souseiseki>	:P
[01:31:00] <Dantman>	Still need to unify Wikia's Animanga area more
[01:32:11] <Souseiseki>	the server lag is very high
[01:32:28] <Souseiseki>	it took about 10 secs to do an ?action=purge 
[01:32:48] <Souseiseki>	*&action=purge
[01:33:00] *Simetrical 	is astonished how the four hours he resolved to commit to schoolwork today has metamorphosed into, like, three minutes
[01:33:05] <Dantman>	Mhmm... Wikia is in a bit of the tricky spot for maintaining a structure
[01:33:13] <markie_>	Souseiseki: probably a better idea to bring it up in the correct channel
[01:33:15] <markie_>	ie #wikia
[01:33:22] <Dantman>	Alreadyis
[01:33:33] <Souseiseki>	Simetrical: :P
[01:34:49] <Dantman>	Wikia gets traffic similar to Wikimedia, but needs to deal with a demand for more of the more performance unfriendly features
[01:35:11] <Dantman>	An entire server dedicated to DPL
[01:35:30] *AaronSchulz 	has been doing a c++ lab for hours
[01:38:45] <Souseiseki>	I always have wondered why wikia insists on using resource consuming things such as ajax on their wikis
[01:40:10] <Souseiseki>	chuck: You need a way to list users that have global rights on your SharedUserRights extension
[01:40:41] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43107 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/ (CentralNotice.php SpecialNoticeLoader.php): drop Special:NoticeLoader, no longer being used
[01:40:55] <Souseiseki>	Currently the only way to do that is bu guessing, and typing a username into the Special page, or by database query
[01:41:00] <Dantman>	^_^ Why, because they are a company of course...
[01:41:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow refs to be hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15724  (10b-jorsch)
[01:41:16] <Dantman>	Can't attract consumers unless you put out attractive features
[01:41:40] <DeFender1031>	is there a way to do ands and ors and stuff in a #ifeq expression?
[01:42:02] <Souseiseki>	Dantman: ―(T_T)→　サクッ
[01:42:25] <Dantman>	Agh, cheap... Rikaichan isn't part of xchat
[01:44:00] <Simetrical>	DeFender1031, you can nest it in an #ifexpr.
[01:44:12] <Dantman>	DeFender1031: AND ({{#ifeq:this|is|{{#ifeq:andthis|isthis}}|noteq]}) OR ({{#if:{{#ifeq:this|isthis|1}}{{#ifeq:orthis|isthis|1}}|dothis}})
[01:47:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow refs to be hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15724  (10thomas.dalton)
[01:49:22] <Dantman>	Oh, the beauty it would be to have a wiki engine that uses Client side JS, has the Wiki engine written in JS, and allows embedded JS for scripting templates...
[01:49:57] <Dantman>	^_^ Actually that's my current insane experiment... heh
[01:54:32] <DeFender1031>	Dantman, i don't follow
[01:54:54] <Dantman>	ok, then I'll break it down
[01:55:02] <Mike||food>	The bot flag is supposed to hide all actions in RC right? including page creation?
[01:55:05] <Dantman>	For an and, you just nest the ifeq's
[01:55:15] <Dantman>	{{#ifeq:a|b|then|else}}
[01:55:24] <Dantman>	{{#ifeq:a|b|{{#ifeq:a|b|then|else}}|else}}
[01:55:45] <DeFender1031>	Dantman, it's not an empty ifeq though... it has a not true parameter also
[01:55:50] <DeFender1031>	yeah
[01:55:55] <DeFender1031>	i'd have to repeat the else
[01:56:06] <Dantman>	mhmm, little ugly but that's mostly the case
[01:56:17] <Dantman>	Might be another posibility
[01:56:18] <Dantman>	One sec
[01:56:29] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43108 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/ (CentralNotice.php SpecialNoticeText.php): 
[01:56:29] <CIA-59>	* Pull out the local notice loader for now; just handle the central one and leave the local one to be generated as currently, so I don't have to test as much crap. ;)
[01:56:29] <CIA-59>	* Load the central notice JS from <head> instead of <body>:
[01:56:30] <CIA-59>	** now wgNotice is defined when site/user JS runs
[01:56:32] <CIA-59>	** browser doesn't pause during rendering to load -- it's loaded before rendering starts, which is less visually jarring
[01:56:35] <CIA-59>	* Fix for "undefined" display when notices are enabled, but weights are 0
[01:56:50] <Dantman>	http://anime.wikia.com/wiki/Template:And
[01:57:25] <Dantman>	{{#if:{{and|{{#ifeq:a|b|1}}|{{#ifeq:c|d|1}}}}|then|else}}
[01:57:46] <Dantman>	OR: {{#if:{{#ifeq:a|b|1}}{{#ifeq:c|d|1}}|then|else}}
[01:58:16] <Dantman>	former being AND syntax if you use my template, latter being OR syntax in general
[02:01:25] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43109 10/trunk/extensions/DismissableSiteNotice/DismissableSiteNotice.php: Fix for compatibility with CentralNotice: 'dismiss' button now hides just the local sitenotice, not the whole <div>, since that's the only part that will be gone on next page view
[02:09:33] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43110 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/CentralNotice.php: fix for full URL to central loader
[02:29:59] <Vyznev>	Dantman: I saw someone use a nice trick with #ifexpr on enwiki
[02:31:05] <Vyznev>	{{#ifexpr: {{{#if:A|1|0}} + {{#if:B|1|0}} + {{#if:C|1|0}} | A or B or C | not (A or B or C) }}
[02:31:25] <Vyznev>	{{#ifexpr: {{{#if:A|1|0}} * {{#if:B|1|0}} * {{#if:C|1|0}} | A and B and C | not (A and B and C) }}
[02:31:40] <DeFender1031>	sweet!
[02:31:46] <Vyznev>	and of course you can easily negate inputs by swapping the 1 and 0
[02:31:54] <DeFender1031>	right
[02:31:56] <DeFender1031>	totally
[02:32:02] <Vyznev>	and do other more complex expressions
[02:32:15] <DeFender1031>	yeah
[02:33:52] <Vyznev>	(in fact, I just looked at the manual, and it turns out that #ifexpr has the boolean operators "and", "or" and "not" so you don't even have to kluge it with "+" and "*")
[02:35:36] <DeFender1031>	hahaha
[02:35:38] <DeFender1031>	nice.
[02:35:49] <Dantman>	I dislike it when people use the #ifexpr when it's possible to make use of #if and #ifeq
[02:36:29] <Dantman>	#ifexpr brings up the entire math parser... but parsing math isn't exactly necessary for something as simple as that
[02:37:11] <DeFender1031>	Dantman|Food, it certainly is here.
[02:37:24] <DeFender1031>	otherwise, i have to duplicate a LOT fo code
[02:37:27] <DeFender1031>	of*
[02:39:18] <Dantman|Food>	No, don't you remember my {{and}}}
[02:39:40] <Dantman|Food>	{{#if:{{and|this|this}}|then|else}}
[02:39:50] <Dantman|Food>	Just expand that to accept more input
[02:40:25] <Dantman|Food>	And or is even easier
[02:50:48] <DeFender1031>	i can't do that
[02:50:57] <DeFender1031>	this expression MUST be self contained
[02:51:23] <Dantman|Food>	Huh?
[02:52:13] <Dantman|Food>	If you can't use the template then employ what it does...
[02:52:21] <Dantman|Food>	that template is just a bit of syntax sugar
[02:52:54] <Dantman|Food>	{{#if:{{#ifeq:a|b|{{#ifeq:c|d|1}}|then|else}}
[02:53:02] <Dantman|Food>	ohwait
[02:53:06] <Dantman|Food>	{{#if:{{#ifeq:a|b|{{#ifeq:c|d|1}}}}|then|else}}
[02:53:40] <DeFender1031>	hmm
[02:53:42] <DeFender1031>	okay
[02:55:03] <Dantman|Food>	But really, using a proper language would be best in the long run...
[02:55:12] <Dantman|Food>	Though, not that easy in MW
[02:56:45] <DeFender1031>	but i also have ors i need in there and stuff
[02:56:49] <DeFender1031>	it's a complicated expression
[02:56:54] <DeFender1031>	like "(if this and that) or (if this and that) or (if this and that and the other thing)"
[02:57:07] <Dantman|Food>	just takes a bit more nesting
[02:57:44] <Dantman|Food>	the concept of returning 1 or '' works on any level
[03:04:12] <DeFender1031>	i suppose
[03:04:23] <DeFender1031>	but it'd look like hell
[03:32:21] <rss>	hi, I am digitising two dictionaries in which words overlap, is it possible to use a single mediawiki installation for both dictionaries?
[03:33:05] <rss>	i.e., I should be able to browse both of the indiviually
[03:33:28] <carl-m>	browse in what way? 
[03:33:34] <rss>	and search them individually or collectively
[03:33:58] <rss>	alphabetical index
[03:34:33] <carl-m>	it seems like a tough fit; you could look at how the wiktionary people oranize things
[03:34:44] <carl-m>	if you're committed to using mediawiki, I'm sure you could make something work
[03:35:19] <carl-m>	for example, making one category for each of the two dictionaries, andputting all the words into the same namespace of articles
[03:35:52] <carl-m>	or making one namespace per dictionary and redirecting/transcluding the overlaps
[03:37:52] <rss>	can the access to all of the words be restricted?
[03:38:39] <carl-m>	in what way? 
[03:39:43] <Krimpet>	MediaWiki might not be the best fit for a situation like that; it'd probably require a lot of manual formatting and maintenance, or developing custom extensions...
[03:39:59] <rss>	in the home page, can there be links to to these two dictionaries (Browse >>) 
[04:11:38] <tc-rucho>	hello
[04:12:53] <chuck>	why does mediawiki store stuff as BINARY/BLOB ><
[04:14:31] <tc-rucho>	how can I get a lint of every option stored as  /mediawiki:something   ?
[04:14:37] <tc-rucho>	s/lint/list
[04:14:47] <Krimpet>	chuck, I believe MediaWiki long predates decent UTF-8 support in MySQL.
[04:14:52] <Krimpet>	tc-rucho, Special:AllMessages.
[04:15:25] <tc-rucho>	Krimpet: nice
[04:15:27] <tc-rucho>	thanks
[04:15:45] <chuck>	Special:AllMessages might not work for you though, especially if you have a lot of extensions
[04:16:08] <tc-rucho>	chuck: that doesn't seem to be the case :)
[04:16:28] <Krimpet>	MySQL still has crappy UTF-8 support, I believe.
[04:16:45] <Krimpet>	No characters outside the BMP, for example
[04:30:46] *werdnus 	sneaks in undetected.
[04:31:52] <Soxred>	HI WERDNUS
[04:32:44] <chuck>	Why would a password not work on a wiki when it works on another? I'm using shared user tables
[05:00:20] <mr-russ>	Hi, I've installed mw-serve and collection extension, where can I get support for mw-serve?  (It's not exporting images in a reasonable size)
[05:02:45] <tc-rucho>	how can I list all the wiki's templates?
[05:03:04] <Vyznev>	tc-rucho: Special:Allpages/Template:
[05:03:15] *thinkling 	is trying to grok this new UserLoadAfterLoadFromSession thing
[05:03:32] <Vyznev>	for all MediaWiki pages, you really need to combine the lists from Special:Allmessages and Special:Allpages/MediaWiki:
[05:03:41] <tc-rucho>	nice
[05:03:44] *mr-russ 	is grapeling with understanding UserLoad...
[05:04:06] <Vyznev>	Allmessages lists all that have default values, Allpages all the have been customized
[05:04:08] <tc-rucho>	Vyznev: trying to find that was driving me nuts. Thanks a ton! :)
[05:04:16] <Vyznev>	neither necessarily implies the other
[05:05:56] <Vyznev>	you can also use an API query to get the info: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query_-_Lists#allpages_.2F_ap
[05:06:41] <Vyznev>	I don't think there's an "allmessages" API query, though :/
[05:08:23] <Splarka>	meta=allmessages
[05:08:29] <tc-rucho>	Vyznev: for some reason when I use  /Special:AllMessages it get's stuck, any hint what's going on? (note: the wiki is really fresh)
[05:10:05] <Splarka>	Vyznev: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allpages&apnamespace=8 and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=allmessages
[05:10:29] <Splarka>	(can switch langs with amlang and filter with amfilter)
[05:10:32] <Vyznev>	ah.  I didn't look under "meta"
[05:17:45] <MZMcBride>	Even via the API allmessages is a bitch.
[05:18:47] *Splarka 	wonders why it doesn't have a query-continue
[05:19:04] <MZMcBride>	Then it would be meta=somepages. :P
[05:19:19] <MZMcBride>	somemessages. *
[05:46:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Specify timezones by location, to allow automatic adjustments of timeoffset and daylight saving time (DST ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505  (10b-jorsch)
[05:47:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Specify timezones by location, to allow automatic adjustments of timeoffset and daylight saving time (DST ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505  (10b-jorsch)
[05:55:06] <MZMcBride>	Heh. Like clockwork, that bug.
[05:56:28] <Krimpet>	I don't see why we even allow timezones to be configured like that, considering it's useless for timestamps...
[05:58:05] <BusyNeko>	it's better for log reading :)
[05:58:57] <BusyNeko>	but useless for sig :)
[06:41:42] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Opening Wikipedia Links in New Tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16224 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (SVANDUSEN_1)
[06:46:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Opening Wikipedia Links in New Tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16224  +comment (10djevrek)
[06:59:14] <Splarka>	arr
[07:02:14] <Yashy>	I had spammers hit a pile of pages. Now they are spamming them out. For example: http://yashy.com/idea/page.php?id=2420  Please advise on how I can delete all of these pages. Thanks in advance!
[07:02:28] <Yashy>	I've blocked the spammers since, just need to delete these pages...
[07:05:37] <Vyznev>	Yashy: what's that? doesn't look like a MediaWiki installation to me...
[07:05:59] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Opening Wikipedia Links in New Tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16224  +comment (10herd)
[07:06:17] *Splarka 	closes with prejudice
[07:20:59] <MZMcBride>	Should've mentioned that new $wg variable for _blank.
[07:22:28] *Splarka 	points out they said 'Wikipedia' and not 'MediaWiki'
[07:23:11] *MZMcBride 	points out that those terms are _never_ confused.
[07:23:29] *Splarka 	points out _they_ said 'Wikipedia' and not 'MediaWiki', and "new tabs"
[07:23:50] *MZMcBride 	points out the bug is filed under MediaWiki --> Categories.
[07:24:06] *Splarka 	points out noobs don't know how to set product
[07:24:16] <MZMcBride>	Or component apparently.
[07:24:33] <MZMcBride>	How would one think to choose categories...
[07:24:54] <Splarka>	because they think it is the 'mediawiki category for bugs' ?
[07:24:57] <Splarka>	hmm, $wgExternalLinkTarget ?
[07:25:02] <Splarka>	why isn't that under !newwindow
[07:25:14] <Splarka>	other than it being horrible, of course
[07:31:18] <Yashy>	Vyznev: http://yashy.com/idea/ it's gotta be some underlying mediawiki format? 
[07:37:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) allpages API having problems with : in page titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16225 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (andreengels)
[07:57:05] <CIA-59>	03vyznev * r43111 10/trunk/phase3/ (19 files in 2 dirs): 
[07:57:05] <CIA-59>	Hide skin tab in preferences entirely is $wgAllowUserSkin is false, remove the skin-override message.
[07:57:05] <CIA-59>	Also ensure that PreferencesForm::mSkin is always normalized and is only saved if $wgAllowUserSkin is true.
[07:57:48] <AquaNet>	I always get nervous when there are typos in the commit message. :P
[07:58:59] <Vyznev>	oops :)
[08:08:09] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) descending tablesort broken for negative numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15890  +comment (10osrc-sysint)
[08:08:16] <CIA-59>	03vyznev * r43112 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialPreferences.php: oops, r43111 was incomplete, here's the rest of it :-/
[08:08:35] <Vyznev>	...I guess you had reason to be nervous :)
[08:10:25] <werdnus>	where's the typo?
[08:10:30] *werdnus 	looks blank.
[08:10:47] <werdnus>	ah, is
[08:12:00] <Raymond_afk>	Vyznev: with r43111 you removed a message, but you have to remove it from messages.inc too
[08:13:12] <Splarka>	so did anyone decide on a theme for bug monday? "Bug Monday theme: Donate!"
[08:22:18] <CIA-59>	03vyznev * r43113 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: remove the skin-override message from messages.inc too
[08:22:44] <_wooz>	lo
[08:23:33] <Vyznev>	Splarka: dunno
[08:23:49] <Vyznev>	ISTR someone suggested "grep -R FIXME" last Monday
[08:24:15] <Splarka>	oh oh, I know, the &preload <includeonly> stripper has onna them
[08:29:14] <x_dimitri>	how does mediawiki encrypt passwords before storing it in the mysql database? (i.e. what algorithm does it use?)
[08:30:08] <x_dimitri>	I'm trying to reset a password but I don't know how to access the mediawiki facilities for that, so I'm trying to do it via the database.
[08:30:11] <Splarka>	salty md5
[08:30:51] <Splarka>	see User.php
[08:31:03] <x_dimitri>	ok, I'll look at that
[08:31:16] <Splarka>	static function crypt
[08:31:36] <Splarka>	return ':B:' . $salt . ':' . md5( $salt . '-' . md5( $password ) );
[08:32:34] <Splarka>	so... md5(userid . '-' . md5(password)) or somesuch
[08:33:06] <Splarka>	ahhh... 
[08:33:10] <Splarka>	!passwordsql
[08:33:10] --mwbot--	UPDATE user SET user_password=MD5(CONCAT(user_id, '-', MD5('password'))) WHERE user_name='John Smith';  This will reset the password for the user with user_name 'John Smith' to 'password'. 
[08:34:01] <x_dimitri>	ok, thanks... let's see if that helps me
[08:35:15] <Vyznev>	I think the bot may be a bit outdated, that sounds like the old password format
[08:35:31] <Vyznev>	I guess it's still supported for backward compatibility, though
[08:36:39] <Vyznev>	should really fix the password hashing to use proper PBKDF2 some day
[08:37:10] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43114 10/trunk/extensions/CodeBrowse/CodeBrowse.i18n.php: Update header
[08:54:10] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43115 10/trunk/extensions/CodeBrowse/CodeBrowse.i18n.php: Update copy/paste errors from wrong file
[09:01:57] <baali>	how does reflist works in wikipedia??
[09:02:09] <baali>	any link on howto create one 
[09:03:27] <baali>	okay i guess i got the link
[09:10:51] <Splarka>	!cite 
[09:10:51] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[09:15:12] <CIA-59>	03warx * r43116 10/trunk/tools/planet/pl/config.ini: Change in blog address
[10:08:21] <mib_gfi7op>	FICKENFICKEN
[10:08:22] <mib_gfi7op>	FICKENFICKEN
[10:08:22] <mib_gfi7op>	FICKENFICKEN
[10:08:24] <mib_gfi7op>	FICKENFICKEN
[10:08:26] <mib_gfi7op>	FICKENFICKEN
[10:08:28] <mib_gfi7op>	FICKENFICKEN
[10:10:54] <simonrvn>	_mary_kate_++
[10:13:15] <CIA-59>	03catrope * r43117 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryBase.php): 
[10:13:15] <CIA-59>	API: (bug 16225) apfrom=Talk:Foo behaved like apfrom=Foo because Talk: was
[10:13:15] <CIA-59>	interpreted as a namespace prefix. This caused bugs when trying to
[10:13:15] <CIA-59>	query-continue with a title like Talk:Talk:Foo. Other XXfrom and XXprefix
[10:13:17] <CIA-59>	parameters probably had this bug as well.
[10:13:22] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) allpages API having problems with : in page titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16225  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[10:14:05] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43118 10/trunk/extensions/NewestPages/ (NewestPages.i18n.php NewestPages.page.php): 
[10:14:05] <CIA-59>	(bug 16212) Add plural support for messages in NewestPages.
[10:14:05] <CIA-59>	The issues was for 4 messages: newestpages-header, newestpages-limitlinks,
[10:14:05] <CIA-59>	newestpages-ns-header, newestpages-showing. No plural support for
[10:14:05] <CIA-59>	'newestpages-limitlinks' can be added, as $1 is a list like "10 | 20 | 30 | 50 |
[10:14:07] <CIA-59>	100 | 150" (default). Moved the query up a bit to be able to support the plural.
[10:14:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Some messages should use PLURAL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16212  +comment (10siebrand)
[10:27:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Update database lock message for Tokipon wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16226 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (manticore.wikia)
[10:31:27] <sphenxes>	Is it possible to build an index in mediawiki.  A word that is repeated on different home pages. 
[10:33:09] <Duesentrieb>	sphenxes: depends on what you mean.
[10:33:35] <Duesentrieb>	sphenxes: usually, words that are relevant enough to show in an index have themselves a wiki page. and every mention to them is a link to that page.
[10:33:41] <Duesentrieb>	which automatically generates an index.
[10:34:18] <sphenxes>	Duesentrieb, i would like to add the word Asprin on and index page. Asprein is found on several home pages. I would like to link (or anchor) Asprin on the index page to all other asprin on my wiki
[10:35:07] <Duesentrieb>	so, make Asprein a wiki page and link to it.
[10:35:13] <sphenxes>	thanks
[10:35:16] <Duesentrieb>	then click the "what links here" link on that page
[10:37:19] <jreisslein>	hello. 
[10:39:51] <jreisslein>	i'd like to ask if there is a free ocr plugin for mediawiki which allows to index pdf files?
[10:41:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Non-square pixel aspect ratios are not detected properly for Ogg thumbnailing , Cortado player - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16149  15enhancement->normal (10tstarling)
[10:42:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) sitemap-index doesn't include full location path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9675  +comment (10szotsaki)
[10:42:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Video metadata parsing borked for latest version of ffmpeg2theora - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16208  (10tstarling)
[10:43:21] <Duesentrieb>	jreisslein: i doubt there is. mediawiki is not a document management system, and trying to abuse it to be one ist probably not going to work out well.
[10:44:01] <wikibugs>	14(DUP)  Video metadata parsing borked for latest version of ffmpeg2theora - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16208  +comment (10tstarling)
[10:44:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  ffmpeg thumbnailing of Ogg videos barfs on Ogg Skeleton metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16167  +comment (10tstarling)
[10:46:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  ffmpeg thumbnailing of Ogg videos barfs on Ogg Skeleton metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16167  15enhancement->normal (10tstarling)
[10:47:09] <jreisslein>	Duesentrieb : maybe, but even in a wiki there is some media content, and it would be nice to include their content in the indexed search ;)
[10:48:46] <Duesentrieb>	jreisslein: feel free to hack it in. by the way... why do you need OCR for indexing PDFs? *real* pdfs contain real text, no need for ocr.
[10:49:43] <jreisslein>	some of the pdfs are scanned word documents -.-
[10:50:17] <Duesentrieb>	how about using the word documents directly?... i mean... it *would* make sense...
[10:50:42] <Duesentrieb>	also, the software would have to automatically recognize which pdfs are real text, and which are scans.
[10:51:03] <Duesentrieb>	anyway, this is the general pain of document management, and people printing stuff only to have it scanned again
[10:51:09] <Duesentrieb>	mediawiki isn't going to help you with that.
[10:51:26] <Duesentrieb>	if you find a way to extract text, you can look for ways to make mediawiki use it.
[10:51:42] <jreisslein>	ok then...is it possible to search within doc files?
[10:51:43] <Duesentrieb>	i expect lucene could be made to deal with it
[10:52:02] <Duesentrieb>	the default search probably can't, unless you just dump the extracted text on the file's description pages.
[10:52:08] <_mary_kate_>	PDF is a relatively open standard, doc isn't so much
[10:52:31] <Duesentrieb>	well, there are free tools to extract text from doc
[10:52:40] <Duesentrieb>	jreisslein: mediawiki does not support searching in media files at all.
[10:52:43] <jreisslein>	you mean pass the content as meta information?
[10:53:05] <jreisslein>	ok thats a word
[10:53:07] <Duesentrieb>	jreisslein: a plugin interface for allowing this would be nice. even if it existed, you would still have to look for implementations that work for the kinds of files you have
[10:53:47] <Duesentrieb>	jreisslein: the simplest way is: make a bot that looks for noew files, analyzes them, extracts whatever text it can, and dumps it on the description page.
[10:53:49] <jreisslein>	Duesentrieb : thank you for your help. i guess i start with an open dms like alfresco then
[10:53:55] <Duesentrieb>	that's not pretty, but it would work.
[10:54:09] <Duesentrieb>	yes, if you need to manage documents, use a dms :)
[10:54:34] <jreisslein>	but i need approx. 10 per cent of the features so it would be overblowed 
[10:54:40] <jreisslein>	:)
[11:16:21] *werdnus 	waves _mary_kate_, Duesentrieb 
[11:20:26] *werdnus 	photoshops Tim's head.. http://wovennickels.com/Images/YouShallNotPass2.jpg
[11:20:30] <werdnus>	YOU SHALL NOT PARSE!
[11:20:32] *werdnus 	hides.
[11:20:49] <lch>	hee hee
[11:21:33] <lch>	can I move images, somehow? or do I need to delete and reupload with a different name?
[11:22:48] <werdnus>	later you will be able to
[11:22:51] <werdnus>	right now, non
[11:40:42] <bizb>	I'm trying to use the api to automate the removal of old pages in our wiki and for some reason I can't delete.  I get the deletetoken and everything, but when I send the delete action I get "unknown_action: Unrecognised value for parameter 'action'"
[11:40:53] <bizb>	for my 'delete' action
[11:42:57] <quentusrex>	Hello all. I've just installed mediawiki within the last month and I can't get a handle on the user account management, or the permissions for the groups. Is there an extension that will simplify these processes?
[11:44:38] <guillom>	!permissions
[11:44:38] --mwbot--	For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
[11:44:51] <guillom>	quentusrex, ^^^
[11:48:38] <bizb>	well figured it out, my version doesn't have delete in the api :(  Guess I need to upgrade...
[11:48:57] <_mary_kate_>	you might need to enable the write api
[11:53:53] <bizb>	i have 1.11
[11:55:02] <bizb>	_mary_kate_: is delete available in that version?  I looked at the phase3 branch and specifically includes/api/ApiMain.php and saw the delete option in there (and in my version of the code I dont' have it)
[12:01:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) License Selector causes accidentally unlicensed uploads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3333  (10wiki.bugzilla)
[12:02:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) License selector: <option disabled="disabled"> doesn' t work in some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3318  (10wiki.bugzilla)
[12:04:33] <bizb>	_mary_kate_: how would i go about enabling the write api (if it isn't on by default?)  didn't see any mention of it
[12:07:26] <guillom>	bizb, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Changing_wiki_content
[12:07:40] <guillom>	$wgEnableWriteAPI = true; in LocalSettings.php
[12:13:00] <werdnus>	holy crap
[12:13:03] <werdnus>	I love these people
[12:13:05] <werdnus>	http://www.smartvoter.org/2008/11/04/ca/sf/meas/R/
[12:13:08] <werdnus>	Shall the City change the name of the Oceanside Water Pollution Control Plant to the George W Bush Sewage Plant?
[12:13:49] <guillom>	hey werdnus 
[12:13:52] <DarkoNeko>	how fitting
[12:15:02] <guillom>	« We think this is a fitting memorial for a truly outstanding Commander-in-Chief. »
[12:15:03] <guillom>	xD
[12:15:54] <guillom>	« Yet this remark should be understood in light of Will's unspoken desire to ride up Brokeback Mountain with W.  »
[12:15:56] <guillom>	haha
[12:16:06] <guillom>	thanks for the link, andrew :)
[12:19:45] <bizb>	guillom++ # thanks! - way searching last night and couldn't find it
[12:19:56] <guillom>	np
[13:09:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Page saving error MW1.13 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16227 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (marvinp)
[13:49:51] <bloubs>	Hi all
[13:50:02] <bloubs>	I have some troubles with my local copy of wikipedia
[13:50:16] <bloubs>	I have downloaded all images with wikix
[13:50:49] <bloubs>	and I'd like to import them in my database
[13:52:10] <bloubs>	I put the wgUploadPath to the directory where wikix has imported the images 
[13:52:23] <bloubs>	but it doesn't work
[14:14:31] <DireFog>	what is happening if "php update.php" only prints "No valid path! ()" before terminating?
[14:32:49] <CIA-59>	03warx * r43119 10/trunk/tools/planet/pl/config.ini: wrong link in RSS url
[14:42:12] <stemd>	question (or feature suggustion/request):
[14:42:14] <stemd>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Professor_Balthazar&action=history&hidebots=1
[14:43:01] <stemd>	there are lot of pages which contain lot of bot action, and few (read one or two) human edits
[14:43:27] <stemd>	as recent changes has filter hidebots=1
[14:43:45] <Simetrical>	No bot flag in the revision table.
[14:43:47] *Simetrical 	looks for bug
[14:43:56] <stemd>	aha
[14:44:00] <_mary_kate_>	join on user_groups
[14:44:01] <_mary_kate_>	;)
[14:44:13] <Simetrical>	_mary_kate_, different semantics.  That would be retroactive.
[14:44:25] <_mary_kate_>	it achieves what the user wants
[14:44:51] <stemd>	Simetrical:  (last time I studied db tables of wikipedia was some 2 years ago :-)
[14:45:13] *Simetrical 	doesn't see the bug
[14:45:22] <Simetrical>	_mary_kate_, inconsistently with RC.
[14:45:43] <_mary_kate_>	inconsistency in mediawiki oh my whatever next
[14:45:59] <stemd>	select * from revisions where USER != bot :D
[14:47:05] <stemd>	I'll post bug, thanks
[14:47:50] <avar>	_mary_kate_: download.wikimedia.org at one point hosted the 2 metres / pixel NASA cloudless blue marble dataset, is it still there?
[14:47:57] <_mary_kate_>	no idea
[14:48:39] <avar>	Hrm, mark didn't know either, who would know?
[14:48:57] <avar>	I want to try using it as backdrop data for openstreetmap
[14:49:06] <_mary_kate_>	someone who could be bothered to go looking for it ;)
[14:49:34] <avar>	This might be quite an illusive seach wouldn't you agree?
[14:53:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) filter history of edits on bots (hidebots=1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16228 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (stem)
[14:54:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Date Format not always consistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16210  (10innocentkiller)
[14:54:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) filter history of edits on bots (hidebots=1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16228  (10stem)
[14:55:13] <stemd>	Simetrical: bug posted :-)
[14:56:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) filter history of edits on bots (hidebots=1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16228  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[14:57:48] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Merge references stated multiple times (if 100% equal) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16222  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:57:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Automatically combine <ref>s containing the same text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9945  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[15:05:48] <IcyPolecat>	hiya, is there a quick and painless way to export an entire Media Wiki to HTML or PDF? I know I can export to XML for the whole site and PDDF per article but need to dump our entire develeopment wiki for our an external audit.
[15:06:03] <_mary_kate_>	maintenance/dumpHTML.php
[15:07:47] <IcyPolecat>	_mary_kate_: is that browser based or CLI? I'm getting a 403 trying to access
[15:08:13] <_mary_kate_>	you need to run it from the command line
[15:08:23] <IcyPolecat>	ok thanks
[15:09:59] <IcyPolecat>	_mary_kate_: sorry - being dense am getting a message that it has moved to DumpHTML extension - do I need to install this or can I use the old CLI method?
[15:10:14] <_mary_kate_>	if it says that you probably need to install the extension
[15:18:22] <CIA-59>	03ashley * r43120 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/YUI/ (YUI.php yui.i18n.php): add version to YUI extension + cleanup
[15:37:09] <bloubs>	does someone know how to clean up the images imported with importImages.php ?
[15:37:25] <bloubs>	I'd like to change the directory where my images are hostes
[15:38:03] <bloubs>	so I'd like to remove all old images and restart importImages.php with the ew directory
[15:48:12] <IcyPolecat>	hiya - me again. The DumpHTML.php extension works ok but I'm not getting any skin data in the snapshot (i.e. the ./skins/ directory is not being created) Anyone know why?
[15:54:18] <Duesentrieb>	bloubs: importImages copies the images to mediawiki's repository.
[15:54:37] <Duesentrieb>	so they are not served from "your" image directory at all.
[16:10:36] <bloubs>	you mean I cannot host my images elsewhere than mediawiki/image ?
[16:25:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  (10cyp)
[16:25:39] <Duesentrieb>	bloubs: basically. well, you can tell mediawiki to use some other dir. but it always assumes that it is structured in the mediawiki way, and that it has control over the files in there.
[16:26:08] <Duesentrieb>	bloubs: mediawiki does support pluggable "file stores" now, so if you really need it, you can write one to use files from wherever.
[16:26:25] <Duesentrieb>	but i'm not sure how easy that is, and how it interacts with the file records in the database.
[16:27:03] <goetzchr>	hi everybody
[16:27:37] <goetzchr>	i'm new to media wiki
[16:28:40] <bloubs>	ok, my problem is that I have downloaded all images from the french wikipedia
[16:29:00] <bloubs>	to have my own mirror of the french wikipedia
[16:29:59] <bloubs>	and the main hard drive is already almost full with the database
[16:30:18] <bloubs>	I'd like to let the images in another hard drive than the one of mediawiki
[16:31:05] <gewt>	bloubs, thats possibly i think
[16:31:17] <bloubs>	I thought that the variable wgUploadPath was the right way to indicate the dir where the images are located
[16:31:27] <gewt>	bloubs, it is
[16:31:37] <bloubs>	but it doesn't work
[16:32:02] <bloubs>	do I need to launch importImages.php after having downloaded the images with wikix ?
[16:38:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Error when entering Special:BrowseData with SMW 1.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16229 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Drilldown; (dasch_87)
[16:50:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  (10billclark)
[16:50:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Page always delivered using gzip compression in HTTP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16230 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (research)
[16:51:28] <CIA-59>	03straussd * r43121 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/: Make directory for ContributionTracking extension
[16:53:19] <CIA-59>	03straussd * r43122 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ (3 files): Initial version of the ContributionReporting extension
[17:00:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Strange RSS/ Atom behaviour for history of non-existent pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16231 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (Wiki.Melancholie)
[17:01:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Strange RSS/Atom behaviour for non-existent pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16231  summary (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[17:03:39] <goetzchr>	how can i see all wiki sites ? 
[17:03:44] <goetzchr>	in a list ?
[17:03:54] <goetzchr>	is there such a functionality?
[17:09:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Error when entering Special:BrowseData with SMW 1.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16229  (10yaron57)
[17:09:38] <padde>	goetzchr: Special:AllPages
[17:10:24] <goetzchr>	okay 
[17:10:27] <goetzchr>	thx
[17:13:03] <Cobraz0r>	Hello
[17:13:27] <Cobraz0r>	I want to install; http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SocialProfile#Installation but where must i command line the install script? I am not good at that stuff
[17:13:28] <goetzchr>	another question: how can i create a category?
[17:14:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Error when entering Special:BrowseData with SMW 1.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16229  (10dasch_87)
[17:15:43] <Cobraz0r>	Someone ?
[17:16:36] <KU0N>	hello
[17:19:52] <KU0N>	My page rendering is taking about 400ms for a very simple page, I'm on a 4x3ghz cpu with 32gb ram, so I think the hardware is not an issue here. I did a profiling and I got: http://rafb.net/p/fmCrcN85.html
[17:20:03] <KU0N>	I use memcached
[17:20:05] <KU0N>	any idea?
[17:22:55] <Cobraz0r>	I want to install; http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SocialProfile#Installation but where must i command line the install script? I am not good at that stuff. can someone help me?
[17:32:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page always delivered using gzip compression in HTTP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16230  (10brion)
[17:40:11] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43123 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ (4 files): 
[17:40:11] <CIA-59>	* standard i18n for special page aliases
[17:40:11] <CIA-59>	* add extension credits
[17:40:11] <CIA-59>	* no need for message loading in construct, as none are used explicitely. Special page name and descritionmessage load the messages when needed
[17:40:12] <CIA-59>	* fix indentation (spaces -> tabs), remove trailing whitespace, stylize.php
[17:40:14] <CIA-59>	* eol-style:native svn props
[17:40:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New:=?UTF-8?Q?=20Create=20proofread=20pag?= =?UTF-8?Q?e=20namespaces=20on=20Norwe?= =?UTF-8?Q?gian=20Bokm=C3=A5l=20Wikisour?==?UTF-8?Q?ce?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16232  (10N/A)
[17:41:40] <wikibugs>	  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16232  +comment (10siebrand)
[17:42:38] <brion>	we should fix that utf8 bug with wikibugs someday :D
[17:44:27] <wikibugs>	  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16232  (10brion)
[17:45:38] <CIA-59>	03tparscal * r43124 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/SpecialCentralNotice.php: Fixed some alignment on controls.
[17:45:50] <CIA-59>	03raymond * r43125 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[17:45:50] <CIA-59>	Make show/hide links in watchlist consistent to recent changes (and ipblocklist too).
[17:45:50] <CIA-59>	Use the same messages for RC/WL to keep translations consistent.
[17:57:48] <gewt>	hm
[17:58:05] <gewt>	whats the svn link/address thing for 1.14 alpha?
[17:58:21] <_mary_kate_>	svn://svn.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/trunk/phase3
[17:58:36] <gewt>	thanks
[18:00:50] <CIA-59>	03raymond * r43126 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking.i18n.php: Follow up per r43123: Remove unused message. Was formerly used as special page message (now in ContributionTracking.alias.php)
[18:01:06] <CIA-59>	03tparscal * r43127 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/ (SpecialCentralNotice.php SpecialNoticeTemplate.php): Corrected vertical alignment for remove and weight controls.
[18:02:41] <Splarka>	!bleedingedge
[18:02:41] --mwbot--	To run trunk see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_SVN (svn address: svn://svn.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 ). If slightly less adventurous, see http://tools.wikimedia.de/~vvv/mw-nightly/
[18:04:58] <CIA-59>	03rotem * r43128 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesEn.php MessagesHe.php): Localization update.
[18:05:01] <Simetrical>	Running nightlies makes no sense . . .
[18:05:07] <Simetrical>	Seriously, why would you?
[18:05:23] <Simetrical>	Nightlies are likely to be more unstable than svn, if you're intelligent and only svn up to Wikipedia's revision.
[18:05:43] <CIA-59>	03tparscal * r43129 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialCentralNotice.php: Fixed width of list table.
[18:06:10] <_mary_kate_>	Simetrical: perhaps it runs a suite of regression tests against the last snapshot before offering the new one
[18:06:16] <_mary_kate_>	(on the other hand, perhaps not)
[18:06:30] <Simetrical>	If anyone *had* such a suite of regression tests, could they perhaps share them with the rest of us?
[18:08:59] <CIA-59>	03raymond * r43131 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking.i18n.php: self revert of r43126. Used on Special:SpecialPages. Thanks to Siebrand.
[18:09:51] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43130 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (185 files): Follow up on r43125. Rebuild all messages files.
[18:23:25] <Pixelminer22222>	Need some insight on setting up GroupPermissions for a WhitelistRead
[18:23:55] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43132 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Retire 'newpages-showhideredirs' in favour of 'whatlinkshere-hideredirs'. Identical use case.
[18:25:27] <KU0N>	My page rendering is taking about 400ms for a very simple page, I'm on a 4x3ghz cpu with 32gb ram, so I think the hardware is not an issue here. I did a profiling and I got: http://rafb.net/p/fmCrcN85.html
[18:26:15] <Pixelminer22222>	Is there a simple solution to allow a certain group access to one specfic page?
[18:27:49] <wikibugs>	  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16232  (10N/A)
[18:28:46] <Splarka>	Pixelminer22222: if you wanna hide content from people who can otherwise edit, MediaWiki isn't made for that
[18:28:57] <Splarka>	see !secrets and !access and !worstcase
[18:29:52] <bhearsum>	are there any tools out there for automatically updating a page every X days? specifically, i'd like to update a redirect weekly.
[18:29:53] <Pixelminer22222>	I think I found a solution with the $wgWhitelistRead and user groups that might work. But I was seeing if there was a known simple solution
[18:30:07] <bhearsum>	i don't imagine there's a way to do this from a mediawiki install but maybe there's a perl or python library...?
[18:31:32] <Splarka>	bhearsum: you could use time-sensitive variables or parser functions to transclude content to a page different each day (although that doesn't work with changing redirect targts)
[18:31:51] <CIA-59>	03tparscal * r43133 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/CentralNotice.i18n.php: Corrected case on titles. Removed unused items.
[18:32:02] <KU0N>	Can you hide a page? Like for a work in progress.
[18:32:17] <bhearsum>	Splarka: i'll look into that...thanks
[18:32:21] <KU0N>	So it doesn't appear in recent changes
[18:32:25] <Splarka>	!secres | Kuon
[18:32:25] --mwbot--	Kuon: I don't know anything about "secres".
[18:32:30] <Splarka>	!secrets | Kuon
[18:32:30] --mwbot--	Kuon: MediaWiki was not designed with read-restrictions in mind, and may not provide air-tight protection against unauthorized access. We will not be held responsible should private information, such as a password or bank details, be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job.
[18:32:32] *Splarka 	fail
[18:32:46] <Splarka>	KU0N: you can use a +bot flag to make it not appear in recent changes by default
[18:32:59] <KU0N>	thanks
[18:33:04] <Splarka>	bhearsum: for example.. {{:Some Page\Weekly\{{CURRENTWEEK}}}}
[18:33:13] <Yashy>	I had spammers hit a pile of pages. Now they are spamming them out. For example: http://yashy.com/idea/page.php?id=2420  Please advise on how I can delete all of these pages. Thanks in advance!
[18:33:13] <bhearsum>	ahhh
[18:33:17] <Splarka>	would transclude [[Some Page\Weekly\45]] this week
[18:33:19] <Yashy>	I've blocked the spammers since, just need to delete these pages...
[18:33:25] <Splarka>	[[Some Page\Weekly\46]] the next week
[18:33:33] <Splarka>	see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words
[18:33:59] <bhearsum>	this might just do it
[18:34:31] <Splarka>	you might stick {{CURRENTDAY}} on the page somewhere, this gives the page a 24 hour max cache too (in theory)
[18:34:46] <Splarka>	that means a fresh copy should get parsed each day
[18:35:08] <bhearsum>	hmm
[18:35:23] <CIA-59>	03tomasz * r43134 10/trunk/extensions/skins/Tomas/images/puzzle-piece.png: updating puzzle piece to look better on ie6
[18:35:54] <Splarka>	(not actually in the transclusion, just in the page somewhere)
[18:36:13] <ZeeO>	hey guys im just looking for a extensions that will let a user clame a wiki page and only let him edit it
[18:36:36] <ZeeO>	one thats simple to edit so i can change how the user clames it
[18:37:44] <Splarka>	maybe http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AuthorProtect
[18:41:50] <Splarka>	tomaszf: you merged transparent pixels to a white background?
[18:42:24] <Splarka>	it does look better in IE but worse on a non-white background
[18:42:58] <tomaszf>	we tested it with light backgrounds (white & grey) and that didn't look horrible .. until we start to move to really dark colors
[18:43:46] <Splarka>	right, but it is possible to merge to no background... sorta
[18:44:02] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43135 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking.php: 
[18:44:02] <CIA-59>	* set default config values for safety
[18:44:02] <CIA-59>	* force 'SET names utf8' on connection
[18:47:25] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43136 10/trunk/extensions/skins/Tomas/images/button-red.png: 8-bit-friendly button from Trevor
[18:47:51] <Splarka>	tomaszf: if you feel really adventurous... http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/
[18:48:49] <Splarka>	it is possible to put in both an alpha transparency layer and a single-color transparency map in a single PNG
[18:51:23] <Pixelminer22222>	$wgWhitelistRead allows to Main Page, but when trying to allow access to a user created page its not letting me
[18:52:34] <brion>	be nice if gimp supported creating such files ;)
[18:52:44] <Pixelminer22222>	$wgGroupPermissions['XXGROUP']['read']    = false;
[18:52:44] <Pixelminer22222>	$wgWhitelistRead = array("Special:Userlogin","MainPage","USER_CREATED_PAGE","Special:Userlogout","Help:Contents",);
[18:52:57] <Pixelminer22222>	$wgGroupPermissions['XXGROUP']['read']    = false;
[18:52:57] <Pixelminer22222>	$wgWhitelistRead = array("Special:Userlogin","MainPage","USER_CREATED_PAGE","Special:Userlogout","Help:Contents",);
[18:53:10] <Pixelminer22222>	err, its not letting me paste properly, you get the idea
[18:53:46] <Pixelminer22222>	I can access the Main Page, the user logout, Help Contents, Login, but if I try to go to the User created page its not letting me
[18:53:50] <Pixelminer22222>	Anyone know the reason?
[18:55:26] <balasyum>	Call to a member function selectRow() on a non-object in includes\User.php
[18:56:03] <balasyum>	Any idea?
[18:56:25] <DMF>	are there any varibles that toggle ability to addScripts() and addLinks to an OutputPage object?
[19:03:48] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43137 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking_body.php: fix comment-option and email opt-in checkbox reads
[19:05:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Incubator mailinglist. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16215  (10Sterkebak)
[19:11:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Links and emails in Semantic Template Fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16233 04BLOCKER; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (deborah.h.folger)
[19:12:02] <esperanza>	Hi there, I have a strange problem with database here : http://eng.anarchopedia.org/Special:WantedPages
[19:12:42] <esperanza>	Mediawiki is fresh (1.14a) and I did myisamchk *.MYI without any effect
[19:12:57] <esperanza>	others specialpages are working fine
[19:15:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Links and emails in Semantic Template Fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16233  (10deborah.h.folger)
[19:16:12] <MattJohnston>	esperanza: You would have more luck in #mysql , since thats a problem with the database server.
[19:16:33] <MattJohnston>	Although i'm not an expert, rebuilding your indexes may help.
[19:18:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Links and emails in Semantic Template Fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16233  04BLOCKER->normal; +comment (10siebrand)
[19:20:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Incubator mailinglist. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16215  +comment (10robinp.1273)
[19:23:19] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Incubator mailinglist. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16215  (10tstarling)
[19:33:56] <Yashy>	I had spammers hit a pile of pages. Now they are spamming them out. For example: http://yashy.com/idea/page.php?id=2420  Please advise on how I can delete all of these pages. Thanks in advance!
[19:34:24] <Yashy>	I've blocked the spammers since, just need to delete these pages... yashy.com/idea/ is the wiki URL
[19:36:17] <domas>	Yashy: that doesn't seem to be mediawiki
[19:39:07] <blue_asterisk>	hi, are there people here who happen to use nginx with mediawiki?
[19:39:41] <blue_asterisk>	I'm looking for the rewrite rule for nginx to be used with mediawiki 
[19:39:59] <blue_asterisk>	I'm trying to figure it out
[19:41:06] <Yashy>	domas: You don't have a page.php in your parent directory?
[19:41:14] <domas>	Yashy: nope
[19:42:00] <domas>	Yashy: mediawiki doesn't allow javascript either :)
[19:42:17] <domas>	and in order to have reduced html you'd have to... um... hack it anyway
[19:42:20] <Yashy>	wow, so I've been owned? :(
[19:42:23] <domas>	yes
[19:42:39] <domas>	who is owner of page.php?
[19:43:07] <Yashy>	I just renamed it, I am.
[19:43:23] <Yashy>	This is on a shell with multiple domains :(
[19:43:46] <MattJohnston>	!e Nuke | Yashy
[19:43:46] --mwbot--	Yashy: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke
[19:44:44] <domas>	Yashy: if it would be bug in mediawiki, it wouldn't be owning a file :)
[19:44:51] <domas>	wouldn't be you owning the file
[19:44:57] <domas>	someone just knows either root or your access credentials
[19:46:12] <Yashy>	contacting the webhost now :)
[19:48:00] <domas>	I'm very helpful lately!
[19:49:01] <Yashy>	thanks!
[19:49:22] <CIA-59>	03straussd * r43138 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking_body.php: Many updates for PayPal and MB field standardization
[19:51:00] <brion>	whee
[19:52:50] <CIA-59>	03straussd * r43139 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking_body.php: Clean up duplicated code from the merge
[19:55:29] <CIA-59>	03stipe * r43140 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/ (4 files in 3 dirs): enabled pause behavior
[20:04:04] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43141 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ (ContributionTracking.i18n.php ContributionTracking_body.php): barf a nice error message on basic invalid visit
[20:09:42] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43142 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking_body.php: add 'returnto' page title parameter so we can customize the return URL for paypal
[20:14:11] <junmin>	Hello, all, i would like to update the index page dynamically? what you guys recommends me to do?
[20:14:14] <junmin>	thansk
[20:14:14] <junmin>	thx
[20:18:17] <AaronSchulz>	brion: http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Nov03.html
[20:18:23] <AaronSchulz>	wow kerry was terrible
[20:21:53] <brion>	srsly
[20:21:58] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43143 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking_body.php: ditch $values, avoid notice
[20:26:23] <CIA-59>	03tomasz * r43144 10/trunk/extensions/skins/Tomas/main.css: cleaning up css classes for submit button
[20:31:59] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43145 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ (ContributionTracking.i18n.php ContributionTracking_body.php): tweak up the display a bit
[20:35:55] <JMcIvor>	hello everyone I have a question about migrating MediaWiki from MySQL to DB2... Was wondering if you guys think this is a practical endeavour or will the maintainence prove to be more work than its worth?
[20:38:31] <Duesentrieb>	JMcIvor: it's going to be a major pain to do, and break with every update of mediawiki.
[20:40:13] <domas>	JMcIvor: GOOD LUCK!
[20:40:56] <exobuzz>	Duesentrieb: i did 1000 edits with a bot, but forgot to set the "bot" flag on the edits, so they appear in recent changes. Would you be able to help me with the SQL I need to reset all edits from this user to bot edits ?
[20:41:19] <exobuzz>	i forgot to say please ;-)
[20:41:57] <exobuzz>	i really should learn the schema
[20:43:31] <Duesentrieb>	exobuzz: update recentchanges set rc_bot = 1 where rc_user_text = "NameOfYourBot";
[20:54:16] <blue_asterisk>	can I upgrade from 1.11 svn to 1.13 svn? how would schema updates work? 
[20:54:47] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43146 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionHistory_body.php: fix l10n
[20:55:26] <Duesentrieb>	blue_asterisk: the updater takes care of all schema upgrades
[20:55:30] <Duesentrieb>	!upgrade | blue_asterisk
[20:55:30] --mwbot--	blue_asterisk: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[20:55:37] <blue_asterisk>	ah sorry
[20:55:53] <blue_asterisk>	I was reading it as you typed
[20:57:24] <CIA-59>	03tparscal * r43147 10/trunk/extensions/skins/Tomas/ (. main.css): Added red-input-button style.
[20:57:29] <blue_asterisk>	I assume the "updater" is maintenance/update.php
[20:57:36] <Duesentrieb>	yes.
[20:57:55] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43148 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking_body.php: -> unlisted special page
[20:59:26] <blue_asterisk>	I was interested in upgrading between major versions; for anybody interested, it's possible via "switch": http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_SVN#Upgrading_and_downgrading
[21:02:27] <AaronSchulz>	brion: any chance of path review soon?
[21:02:56] <Platonides>	blue_asterisk, yes
[21:02:59] <CIA-59>	03tparscal * r43149 10/trunk/extensions/skins/Tomas/main.css:
[21:03:01] <Platonides>	svn switch + svn up 
[21:03:10] <Platonides>	is just like copying the new files
[21:03:17] <brion>	AaronSchulz: if it ain't the fundraiser i ain't touching it until we put this stuff live :)
[21:05:32] <CIA-59>	03raymond * r43150 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add ContributionTracking to translatewiki
[21:05:47] <brion>	\o/
[21:06:29] <CIA-59>	03tstarling * r43151 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/storage/recompressTracked.php: 
[21:06:29] <CIA-59>	Assorted tweaks on further review and local testing:
[21:06:29] <CIA-59>	* Default 1 child process
[21:06:29] <CIA-59>	* Introduce a log system so that critical errors can be filtered out of the progress messages
[21:06:29] <CIA-59>	* Warn on abnormal child termination
[21:06:30] <CIA-59>	* Use the actual row count for progress instead of the end ID. I think we can afford to count rows.
[21:06:34] <CIA-59>	* Check for bt_moved=0 in doOrphanList() after finishIncompleteMoves(), to avoid attempted double-move and resulting spurious "conflict detected" warning
[21:07:27] <brion>	* Warn on abnormal child termination <- this sounds like it would be controversial in american politics
[21:07:28] <AaronSchulz>	brion: is tim still working on that schema updater?
[21:07:31] <TimStarling>	no
[21:07:35] <brion>	:(
[21:07:48] <TimStarling>	Tim has shelved it while he works on recompressTracked
[21:07:57] <TimStarling>	which, by the way, is now ready for a test on a wikimedia wiki
[21:09:04] <brion>	\o/
[21:12:26] <AaronSchulz>	brion: maybe I should just do code review the next week
[21:13:17] <CIA-59>	03dale * r43152 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (8 files in 5 dirs): updates to smil sequencer (style updates, improved clipEdit view)
[21:15:23] <brion>	:)
[21:15:24] <CIA-59>	03rotem * r43153 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[21:15:24] <CIA-59>	* Localization update for he.
[21:15:24] <CIA-59>	* Removing obsolete message noticetranslate.
[21:16:24] <exobuzz>	Duesentrieb: sorry i got called away by the boss.. thanks veyr much!
[21:17:01] <Duesentrieb>	np
[21:18:03] <exobuzz>	Duesentrieb: i thought it might be much more complicated than that ;-) 
[21:19:30] <siebrand>	AaronSchulz: if you're looking for something to review: Andrew's got a 70k patch in bug 15252 Allow group rights to be changed on-wiki
[21:19:53] <AaronSchulz>	he already had me review that, not sure what changed he made since
[21:19:57] *AaronSchulz 	will look
[21:20:13] <AaronSchulz>	brion: I have two branches on my PC with schema changes
[21:20:27] <CIA-59>	03raymond * r43154 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking.i18n.php: Remove link to special page as it returns an error (unlisted special page since r43148.)
[21:20:35] <AaronSchulz>	the third branch is just /trunk regular, so I can commit without commit unwanted stuff
[21:20:48] <AaronSchulz>	*changes
[21:20:52] <siebrand>	AaronSchulz: ah, you didn't comment in the bug. 
[21:21:12] <AaronSchulz>	commented via email
[21:22:18] <siebrand>	AaronSchulz: blah, no record :)
[21:27:16] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) Incubator mailinglist. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16215  (10Sterkebak)
[21:31:59] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43155 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[21:31:59] <CIA-59>	(bug 15068) Added $wgEnotifUseRealName, which allows UserMailer to send out
[21:31:59] <CIA-59>	e-mails based on the user's real name if one is set. Defaults to false (use the
[21:31:59] <CIA-59>	username). Patch by ^demon (Chad Horohoe). Per suggestion of brion.
[21:32:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New hook request UserMailer.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15068  (10siebrand)
[21:33:19] <brion>	neat
[21:38:13] <Duesentrieb>	brion: by the way... how can the real name be shown in the history? 
[21:40:03] <Splarka>	doesn't some extension (maybe ContributionCredits) do that, for footers?
[21:40:21] <Duesentrieb>	maybe it does.
[21:40:44] <Duesentrieb>	i thought there was some switch that would tell mw to populate xxx_user_text with the real name, everywhere, always.
[21:40:47] <Duesentrieb>	would make sense to me.
[21:41:08] <Duesentrieb>	hm... but then, real names may be ambiguous.
[21:42:30] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43156 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[21:42:30] <CIA-59>	(bug 14978) Add random sort for semantic queries. Patch by Steren Giannini.
[21:42:30] <CIA-59>	Usage: "|sort=random" in the {{#ask}} params
[21:42:30] <CIA-59>	It is compatible with other sorting, which means you can sort ascending by one property and then sort randomly by an other property.
[21:42:32] <CIA-59>	Example:
[21:42:34] <CIA-59>	{{#ask: [[test::+]][[check::+]]
[21:42:36] <CIA-59>	|? |? test |? check
[21:42:47] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Random Sort for semantic queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14978  +comment (10siebrand)
[21:45:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) alphabetical order method for DynamicPageList - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14971  (10siebrand)
[21:46:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New extension: "Upload To Wikimedia Commons Tab" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14957  -patch ; +comment (10siebrand)
[21:48:58] <CIA-59>	03straussd * r43157 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/fundcore/gateways/ (fundcore_moneybookers.module fundcore_paypal.module): Update gateway processing to handle the new contribution tracking system (but remain backwards-compatible with the old one).
[21:58:23] <CIA-59>	03tomasz * r43158 10/trunk/extensions/skins/Tomas/main.css: ui fixes
[22:00:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Patch for generateSitemap.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14397  (10siebrand)
[22:00:45] <junmin>	hello, is there a way that i can quote a part of an internal page's content in another page??? thanks
[22:06:37] <wikibugs>	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=  (10N/A)
[22:07:30] <WaRpAtH>	O_O
[22:08:43] <lch>	junmin, you mean like templates?
[22:09:17] <lch>	just do it like it would be a template and add a : in front of the title
[22:10:33] <junmin>	lch: templates?? i dont exactly know what should be named; but for example, a page have a summary section, so i can quote/display its summary in anothers pages.
[22:11:12] <CIA-59>	03straussd * r43159 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Respect opt-out settings and map tracking data to CiviCRM contributions.
[22:11:18] <CIA-59>	03raymond * r43160 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php: 
[22:11:18] <CIA-59>	Trim the final extension to avoid a confusing warning like
[22:11:18] <CIA-59>	 "*.jpg " is not a permitted file type
[22:16:28] <chuck>	Why is the CiviCRM folder inside of the MediaWiki repository?
[22:17:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create a channel on Wikimedia IRC that logs newly created/ unified accounts on all wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15276  (10brion)
[22:18:08] <brion>	chuck: so we have it in source control, of course
[22:18:16] <brion>	same as all our other tools
[22:20:42] <chuck>	Wow, there's lots of unified accounts made with bad names
[22:20:49] <chuck>	brion, Oh, you guys use it?
[22:22:50] <brion>	yes
[22:22:59] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43161 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php: Add missing global $wgEnotifUseRealName. Fix for undefined variable notice in r43155.
[22:23:45] <siebrand>	Hmm, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki : check the link to r4 in the comment of r43161 :)
[22:24:35] <brion>	heh
[22:25:47] <chuck>	siebrand, haha :D
[22:27:10] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43162 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php: Update documentation as pointed out by Aaron. Fix on r43155.
[22:29:23] <AaronSchulz>	siebrand: hmm, that is still odd since it isn't actually passed in as a param
[22:30:04] <siebrand>	AaronSchulz: ah, right. So it just shouldn't be there?
[22:30:15] <AaronSchulz>	imo :)
[22:30:16] <chuck>	 if ( strstr ( $s , "{{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}}" ) ) {
[22:30:16] <chuck>	        $connection=getDBconnection() ;
[22:30:16] <chuck>	        mysql_select_db ( "nikipedia" , $connection ) ;
[22:30:17] <chuck>	        $sql = "SELECT COUNT(*) as number FROM cur WHERE cur_title NOT LIKE \"%/Talk\" AND cur_title NOT LIKE \"%ikipedia%\" AND cur_text LIKE \"%,%\"" ;
[22:30:19] <chuck>	wow
[22:30:36] <Simetrical>	. . .
[22:30:38] <siebrand>	AaronSchulz: I guess I agree. Will be gone.
[22:30:39] <chuck>	Wouldn't that run a little slowly?
[22:30:50] <Simetrical>	chuck, I hope that's not anywhere in our repo?
[22:30:59] <chuck>	Simetrical, It's in an old phpwiki thing
[22:31:09] <Simetrical>	Heh.
[22:33:10] <junmin>	lch: thanks!
[22:35:39] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43163 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php: 
[22:35:39] <CIA-59>	As discussed with Aaron on irc. Remove "@param bool $wgEnotifUseRealName true
[22:35:39] <CIA-59>	will use real name instead of username" altogether. It is not a parameter, so it
[22:35:39] <CIA-59>	should not be there. The setting is documented in DefaultSettings.php.
[22:39:22] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r43164 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/CentralNotice.i18n.php: Revert revert of casing. MediaWiki just does it like this...
[22:39:50] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43165 10/branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration/SpecialNoticeText.php: *cough* load the actual counter instead of a test value
[22:40:48] <chuck>	brion, What's the /branches/CentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration thing all about/
[22:40:50] <chuck>	*?
[22:43:00] <brion>	the hell
[22:43:38] <AaronSchulz>	is that even a valid reply? ;)
[22:43:39] <brion>	arghhl
[22:43:42] <brion>	i commited to the branch :D
[22:43:47] *brion 	stabs self repeatedly in neck
[22:44:02] <AaronSchulz>	don't kill yourself!
[22:44:10] <AaronSchulz>	at least not until I get those schema changes in
[22:44:11] <CIA-59>	03tomasz * r43166 10/branches/ContactPageFundraiser/SpecialContact.php: updating spacing on fields with sprintf
[22:44:13] *Splarka 	hands Aaron the sutures and gauze
[22:45:05] *siebrand 	grins.
[22:46:30] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43167 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeText.php: commit to the right branch this time
[22:53:14] <jbalint>	Hi
[22:53:31] <jbalint>	how do references work on wikipedia? i tried adding <ref> in my wiki but it didn't do anything
[22:59:47] <Charitwo>	jbalint: might want to check out http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[23:00:14] <jbalint>	Charitwo: thanks!
[23:20:47] <Vandalism_dstryr>	Anyone here know how to make Huggle run faster?
[23:22:06] <Mike||busy>	Vandalism_dstryr: Please go away.
[23:22:42] <Vandalism_dstryr>	What, why? What did I do?
[23:23:10] <Mike||busy>	Go bother someone in #wikipedia-en or something.
[23:23:31] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43168 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking_body.php: redo whitespace
[23:23:36] <Vandalism_dstryr>	um, ok then.
[23:33:10] <CIA-59>	03brion * r43169 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[23:33:10] <CIA-59>	* improve i18n for contribution submission form intermediary
[23:33:10] <CIA-59>	* show the form even when there is JS, in case the original submit fails or something. be nice. :D
[23:43:09] <master__>	What was the command to get mediawiki's restful api?
[23:43:15] <master__>	api documentation
[23:43:34] <MZMcBride>	Wut?
[23:44:19] <^demon>	!api | master__
[23:44:19] --mwbot--	master__: The MediaWiki API provides direct, high-level access to the data contained in the MediaWiki databases. Client programs should be able to use the API to login, get data, and post changes. Find out more at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API>. For client libraries in various languages, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code>.
[23:44:26] <^demon>	^ All your docs are there.
[23:44:46] <master__>	ah.. ok..
[23:46:12] <master__>	Just getting empty pages:  http://wiki.wsu.edu/ctltwiki/API:Client_Code
[23:47:17] <^demon>	Those won't show up on your wiki, take a look at the links mwbot provided on mediawiki.org