[00:08:58] 03siebrand * r43170 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (38 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-11-04 00:52 CET) [00:12:10] 03siebrand * r43171 10/trunk/extensions/ (64 files in 55 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-11-04 00:52 CET) [00:14:19] 03brion * r43172 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionHistory_body.php: skip comments for tiny contributions, since they have a history of being disruptive [00:33:27] 03tstarling * r43173 10/trunk/ (42 files in 3 dirs): [00:33:27] Fixes for r42642: [00:33:27] * Fix excessively abbreviated variable names $y and $m [00:33:27] * Don't use empty() unless you want to suppress warnings [00:33:27] * More documentation for $wgFilterLogTypes [00:33:27] * hide_patrol_log instead of hidepatrollog, camelCase for variable and function names, hyphens for message names [00:33:32] * More spaces, break long lines [00:37:10] parthos? [00:38:29] 03aaron * r43174 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Fix for r43173. 'patrol' log is part of core; it's not just for extensions. [00:43:33] 03(mod) New tool to delimit scientific notation - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15677 (10Greg_L_at_Wikipedia) [00:43:52] 03tstarling * r43175 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogEventsList.php: Escaping once is enough. [00:44:15] 03tstarling * r43176 10/trunk/debs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [00:44:15] * Added MegaCli handling. [00:44:15] * Suppress stderr from arcconf [00:44:43] How can I retrieve an article in its wikiformat? (programmatically) [00:44:52] not html [00:45:22] Use the API, if it's available. It's usually at domain.com/w/api.php. [00:45:30] 03tstarling * r43177 10/trunk/debs/update.sh: Revert local hack for RAID packaging [00:45:37] (Or "api.php" in the equivalent file path.) [00:46:15] for api: action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&titles=FOO [00:46:30] 03tstarling * r43178 10/trunk/tools/invoice-generator/ (conf.php.sample invoice.php): Added optional Cc header support [00:46:41] but you can also use action=raw&title=FOO on index.php usually [00:48:46] 03(NEW) link not working properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16234 major; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (triode1) [00:49:14] brion: http://www.nabble.com/Worst.-Survey.-Ever.-to20280834.html :) [00:51:12] yah, good use of bugzilla there... [00:51:38] Pathoschild: We've been looking at the API documentation but don't quite get how to do that. [00:51:41] How does that relate to Email? [00:53:27] MZMcBride: obviously because bugzilla uses email and... well.. Chewbacca defense [00:53:31] Does the API need to be enabled in order to use it? [00:53:42] Or should it just work by default? [00:54:03] Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Example&rvprop=content&rvlimit=1 [00:54:04] master__: what version of mediawiki are you on? [00:54:10] It has a configuration variable, but is enabled by default in most versions. [00:54:25] Configuration variables, rather. [00:54:25] Splarka: 12.0.0 [00:54:35] Heh. [00:54:49] quick, give me lottery numbers for December 2008 [00:54:53] I mean... 1.12.0 [00:54:54] before this window to the past closes [00:54:57] doh [00:55:15] 1.12.0 (r611) [00:55:25] Wut? [00:55:26] well, you probably know your scriptpath, where /index.php is, right? [00:55:36] of course [00:55:40] Are you on some weird distribution? [00:55:48] RHEL 5 [00:56:06] replace index.php with api.php, do you see the help message? [00:56:14] (no parameters) [00:56:23] Don't replace index.php in the filesystem! Just change it in the URL. [00:56:27] You don't want to delete index.php. :) [00:56:34] Heh. [00:56:38] AaronSchulz: that survey has had... issues :) [00:56:39] Simetrical: I hope they aren't _that_ literal [00:56:52] *Splarka replaces Simetrical with Folger's Crystals, lets see if he notices [00:57:05] MZMcBride, probably the r611 is because of some weird confusion, it looking at a different SVN repo from expected. Like if they've committed MW to a local repo. [00:57:14] blank page... um.. there's a lot of apache redirects and stuff.. [00:57:15] Normally the rXXXXX shouldn't appear at all in actual releases. [00:57:24] apache aliases, I mean [00:57:34] can you link to your site? [00:57:46] brion: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki%2Fpath&path=%2Fbranches%2FCentralNotice-SpecialPage-Integration%2F [00:57:49] Nabble fails for using frames in 2008. [00:57:52] are you reviewing that? [00:57:54] if you have a null article and null script path, then we let bri*n stab you [00:58:14] *And* trying to redirect using JS if you try to unframe it. [00:58:36] Got it.. http://wiki.wsu.edu/ctltwiki/resources/api.php [00:58:54] I'd multiple wikis.. drupal style.. [00:59:20] master__: action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&titles=FOO [00:59:47] ok.. wow.. thanks.. [00:59:50] I will play with that. [00:59:55] er.. in theory [01:00:00] *Splarka wonders why it gives error [01:00:12] > unknown_action: Unrecognised value for parameter 'action' [01:00:38] So the query has to be made to the api.php program, not index.php? [01:00:44] weird distributions for the... wtf [01:00:46] well [01:00:59] you can also do... index.php?action=raw&title=FOO [01:01:11] less control, no formatting [01:01:34] *brion peeks at codereview [01:01:37] very limited mime types (x/wiki, text/css, text/javascript, one or two others) [01:02:01] er or was it text/x-wiki [01:02:13] It should be. [01:02:15] I am looking to just get in wiki notation--not html.. [01:02:23] well, that is what action=raw is [01:02:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=raw&title=Foo&ctype=text/javascript [01:02:50] Yeah.. ok.. thanks.. This is so we can use it for the help pages for another application. The application will parse our what it wants. [01:03:04] ahh, there it is: [01:03:05] $allowedCTypes = array('text/x-wiki', $wgJsMimeType, 'text/css', 'application/x-zope-edit'); [01:03:11] AaronSchulz: did you get a private message from me? [01:03:25] hey, no passing notes in class [01:04:59] thanks massively gotta go now.. [01:16:02] 03dale * r43179 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (5 files in 3 dirs): re-order clips updates, style fixes [01:19:11] 03aaron * r43180 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: Revert r42890, this is not static [01:25:05] AaronSchulz: while you're poking about -- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15276 <- looks like one change got half-reverted somewhere, i think we need to repoke the rc2UDP bits in CentralAuth? [01:25:41] UDP was moved back to RC by you...hmm [01:25:48] *AaronSchulz checks [01:28:33] 03aaron * r43181 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthUser.php: UDP class was reverted back into RC class [01:32:18] O_O [01:32:19] 03(mod) [PATCH] Nostalgia skin has no user pages links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15868 +comment (10nsk) [01:32:33] AaronSchulz: fix the bug pliz :D [01:33:07] what bug? [01:33:47] WaRpAtH, the nostalgia one? [01:34:01] nope, the centralauth one ^_^ [01:34:15] *chuck doesn't see it [01:34:21] But I'll look at the nostalgia patch [01:34:22] bug 15276 ^_^ [01:34:32] TimStarling: what's the issue w/ the graph file expiration in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/42627 (aside from the %86400 which has been removed, iirc) [01:34:44] wow a 14 year old developer smarter than me :~( [01:35:05] 03(mod) Create a channel on Wikimedia IRC that logs newly created/ unified accounts on all wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15276 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:35:25] woot [01:35:59] *Mike||busy anticipates [01:36:14] just the %86400 [01:36:27] ooh brion can it be called #global.wikimedia ? [01:36:44] that was removed 27 October 2008 [01:36:49] if it gets done i.e ^_^ [01:36:51] ah super :D [01:37:32] *brion marks it resolved [01:37:36] I didn't check if it had been fixed [01:37:36] but I told him about the exact same error before in another part of the code, and fixed it myself [01:37:47] is there a way of taking a "hot backup" from a mediawiki database on mysql other than having a slave and locking/backing that up rather than backing up the main database ? [01:38:03] yeah i already made him take it out ;) [01:38:05] I'm sysadminning now [01:38:18] code review was getting me down [01:38:22] aww [01:38:27] brion: you made me take what out? [01:38:35] exobuzz: InnoDB! [01:38:40] *AaronSchulz wonders if brion can time travel [01:39:13] speaking of code review, I disabled the Drafts extension on test.wp a week ago [01:39:22] Why do the "el" messages take a long time >< [01:39:28] with a note "contact me for code review" in a few places [01:39:31] brion: was that an answer? :) [01:39:54] or the problem [01:39:55] exobuzz: no need to lock your tables, transaction ensures a consistent read [01:39:56] :) [01:40:32] so you can mysqldump without locking ? there is a myisam table also, but I geuss i can hotcopy that [01:40:32] exobuzz, if you're using InnoDB, mysqldump --single-transaction will do what you want. [01:40:43] TimStarling: it needs more work, but i wanted people to be able to poke at it to test it and get some feedback for Trevor [01:41:02] we've been busy with the fundraiser ever since though :) [01:41:09] we'll get back to it after [01:41:10] there was some issue with it that was delaying scap [01:41:12] Although not for MyISAM, yeah. But the search table probably doesn't need to be 100% consistent. [01:41:15] hmmm [01:41:19] >> It's Bug Monday! Eat a bug. << is that code for wanting developers to focus on bugs related to food? [01:41:26] shouldn't have been. bad code file? [01:41:28] Bugs aren't kosher, I can't eat them. [01:41:39] you know, that day you did an svn up and couldn't get test.wp to work so you went to bed [01:41:39] Except, according to some traditions, certain varieties of grasshoppers. [01:41:45] heh [01:41:54] I think it just required a schema update [01:41:59] yep [01:42:00] Simetrical: perhaps I dont need to backup the search table at all? i mean can that be regenerated at any time ? [01:42:02] but when I opened the source file it made my eyes hurt [01:42:06] :D [01:42:14] "he will learn patience" [01:42:14] exobuzz, yes, sure. Although probably pretty slowly. [01:42:38] Simetrical: my wiki is smaller than yours ;-) [01:42:51] *^demon eats a bug [01:43:12] exobuzz, probably fast enough. I don't run Wikipedia, BTW. :P [01:43:20] *Simetrical runs an awfully small wiki [01:43:21] I don't mean to be too harsh, it's just the usual stuff that you'd expect from someone who hadn't been writing mediawiki code for long [01:43:55] but I want 20 minutes with him at some stage to go through it [01:43:57] (How long does loading a full mysqldump of the Wikipedia database take?) [01:44:52] 03(mod) [PATCH] Nostalgia skin' s search box position makes Ajax suggestions difficult to click on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15902 (10nsk) [01:46:30] Simetrical: including text? [01:46:38] TimStarling, I suppose so. [01:46:42] To be fair. [01:46:45] 03(mod) [PATCH] Nostalgia skin has no user pages links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15868 +comment (10charlie) [01:46:48] could take a week or so [01:46:51] :) [01:47:01] wow [01:47:08] time to make a few cups of tea [01:47:10] :) [01:47:39] what is the ondisk size of the database ? [01:47:48] ah fabulous, MAMP has stopped working [01:48:01] we don't keep the english wikipedia on a single server [01:48:04] What happens if some catastrophic query gets run on the master and all slaves before anyone can stop it? Is there another slave running with replication delayed or something handy like that? [01:48:19] TimStarling: no estimation ? [01:48:38] it's spread out over 18 external storage text clusters plus a core cluster [01:48:55] I think there's an FAQ entry if you want estimates [01:49:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/status/fixme [01:50:01] brion: not too bad [01:50:53] wasn't the CentralNotice branch merged? [01:50:56] i have a simple mysql question.. mysql cant use an index for an "order by" if the where clause is using another field like "SELECT * FROM table where field1=something ORDER BY field2; - why can't it use both field1 and field2 indexes ? [01:51:09] do i not understand how it works internally for example ? [01:51:16] exobuzz, it can use an index on (field1, field2) in that case. [01:51:54] it says it here http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/order-by-optimization.html "In some cases, MySQL cannot use indexes to resolve the ORDER BY, although it still uses indexes to find the rows that match the WHERE clause. These cases include the following: The key used to fetch the rows is not the same as the one used in the ORDER BY: " [01:52:02] exobuzz, MySQL can use an index on (field2) for that query, but then it needs to scan the whole index (until it retrieves the LIMIT number of rows, if applicable). [01:52:05] so you end up with a filesort [01:52:20] exobuzz, if it uses an index on (field1), yes, it will be a filesort. [01:52:32] which is slow on large datasets [01:52:55] i worked around it by presorting my data. but what would be the answer otherwise ? (in my case it was read only db so its ok) [01:53:06] exobuzz, adding an index on (field1, field2). [01:53:13] oh i see [01:53:33] so it would be like a combined index ? [01:53:38] Yes. [01:53:59] would i still need the field1 index too ? [01:54:01] 03charlie * r43182 10/trunk/phase3/skins/Nostalgia.php: [01:54:01] Cleaned up some PHP coding style issues, and a few problems with [01:54:01] bug 15868. Patch by NSK Nikolaos S. Karastathis. [01:54:12] 03(FIXED) [PATCH] Nostalgia skin has no user pages links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15868 +comment (10charlie) [01:54:31] No. Normally if you have an index on multiple columns, you don't need an index on a prefix of that same list of columns. [01:54:50] Oh sweet, I think I did that (mostly) right [01:54:50] (although sometimes it's a good idea if the index is on a large number of columns) [01:55:03] ill experiment with that thanks. [01:55:08] chuck, did you update RELEASE-NOTES and CREDITS? [01:55:13] >< [01:55:16] :) [01:55:34] I don't think I need to update RELEASE-NOTES, as it was just fixing some PHP style stuff from a previous patch, right? [01:55:37] do we get a mediawiki 1.14 for xmas brion? :) [01:55:58] Simetrical, And the person is already on the list [01:56:02] of CREDITS [01:56:12] chuck, then you win, yeah. [01:56:41] 03aaron * r43183 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalBlocking/GlobalBlocking.php: Use $wgSpecialPageGroups [01:56:42] haha [01:58:07] nostalgia just isn't what it used to be [01:58:19] :) [01:58:38] Splarka, ;-) [02:02:13] 03(NEW) Ajax search container not working well for skins placing search box in the footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16235 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (nsk) [02:03:10] exobuzz: if you're a good little exobuzz you may just :) [02:03:27] brion: ill try! :) [02:03:43] chuck, you do realize that the patch you checked in was a significant functional change to the Nostalgia skin, right? Your commit message seems not to mention that. [02:04:27] my mediawiki skin is quite nostalgic [02:04:45] i force a 1985 mouse pointer. that has surely got to annoy some of my visitors [02:04:46] ;-) [02:05:06] 03demon * r43184 10/trunk/phase3/includes/StubObject.php: Minor tweak in debug output. Makes much more readible (and per most other debug statements that mention the calling method), since -> gets turned to -> in the debug comments. [02:05:23] *AaronSchulz gets tired [02:05:33] http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Main_Page (its surely been about a month since i spammed) :) [02:05:47] Simetrical, Oh.. sorry, I didn't know a few more links constituted a significant change [02:06:23] chuck, significant enough to be noted in RELEASE-NOTES and in your commit summary, certainly. Your commit message made it sound like a question of code style. [02:06:47] chuck, see my comments on the bug. I'm not clear if the change is really desired. [02:07:16] Nostalgia is *meant* to be the way things used to be. Changing its aesthetics is questionable. [02:17:03] 14(INVALID) [PATCH] Nostalgia skin' s search box position makes Ajax suggestions difficult to click on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15902 +comment (10nsk) [02:19:26] *werdnus waves here too. [02:19:58] *Soxred waves here too [02:21:04] oh hai werdnus and Soxred [02:21:21] *Soxred is bored [02:21:58] Soxred: don't say that in here. [02:22:19] Soxred, Fix some bugs, it's Bug Monday today :P [02:22:20] Yes, that wasd intended for another channel anywat [02:27:32] Only 5 open bugmonday bugs [02:28:00] aww [02:28:11] *brion had a fundraiserbug monday :P [02:28:16] next week will be funner :D [02:28:27] ok, headin' home to get dinners and sleeps [02:29:19] *chuck wonders what irc client brion uses [02:29:35] maybe pidgin [02:29:44] *puke* [02:34:35] chuck, CTCP VERSION him sometime. [02:41:43] hey Simetrical [02:41:51] I know what Brion uses. [02:41:54] colloquy. [02:42:10] *Simetrical was going to say that he had heard a fair number of Mac people used that [02:43:13] *^demon|brb is playing with his new Mac :) [02:44:12] ^demon: worth getting? [02:44:21] I'm pondering possibly maybe getting a new laptop. [02:44:25] *Simetrical hates the blasted interface [02:44:28] <^demon> werdnus: 24in iMac desktop :) [02:44:44] *Simetrical will only use Linux, of course . . . not just ideologically, likes being involved in improving his OS [02:45:06] well, if I don't get a macbook, I'll certainly switch to ubuntu. [02:45:07] <^demon> I just had to turn in my Mac laptop for work (17in powerbook, due to layoff), so I went out and got a new mac to make myself feel better :p [02:45:08] *Soxred is going to upgrade his mac soon [02:45:22] ^demon: you got laid off? [02:45:23] *Simetrical wants to strangle himself whenever he has to edit text on a Mac, though, since half the shortcuts mean something significantly different if they works at all [02:45:36] From Mac 10.4 to 10.5+Ubuntu [02:45:36] http://www.exothermia.net/monkeys_and_robots/2008/11/03/code-to-scape-cnncom-election-results/#more-34 [02:45:46] <^demon> werdnus: Yeah :-\ [02:45:58] ^demon: what was your sin? [02:46:40] <^demon> Being an intern and therefore an acceptable loss to Budget's latest rounds of cuts. [02:46:40] *Simetrical goes to bed [02:46:57] ^demon: :( [02:47:06] I start my new job on monday :P [02:47:13] werdnus, what job would that be? [02:47:14] *^demon needs a job [02:47:23] Simetrical: contracting for wmg [02:47:24] wmf* [02:47:26] *Simetrical has never done a real day's work in his life [02:47:30] werdnus, ah-ha, you too. [02:47:35] I've considered it, but I don't have the time. [02:47:52] It's just Aaron and I, AFAIK. [02:47:55] I should be doing stuff like, you know, schoolwork. [02:48:07] I'm taking a year off that nonsense. [02:48:09] :P [02:48:54] Paying for your own upkeep or what? [02:49:09] yeah, moving out of home in late December. [02:49:20] *werdnus finishes high school in two days. [02:49:30] *Simetrical has never been that independently-minded [02:49:34] *Simetrical is still happily living with his parents [02:49:42] *Simetrical goes to bed srsly now, good night [02:49:45] nn [02:49:51] <^demon> werdnus: I thought about applying for something with wmf, then I remembered I had a job at the time :\ [02:50:34] heh [02:53:59] 03demon * r43185 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (ChangesFeed.php specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php): Remove some unused globals. [03:07:30] saying the word Nostalgia make me feel like vomitting :S [03:07:41] <^demon> Harhar: http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/11/air-force-aims.html [03:07:58] werdnus: ooh new contractor like timmy ? :D [03:09:12] WaRpAtH, ;-) [03:09:44] :D [03:32:48] 13:07 < WaRpAtH> werdnus: ooh new contractor like timmy ? :D [03:32:51] no, not like Tim. [03:32:59] I'm a single-purpose contractor :P [03:33:03] well, one purpose at a time. [03:33:55] O_O [03:34:03] to take over the world? O_O [03:34:35] btw, isn't this the month Timmy gets hitched? :) [03:35:37] ij ust hope angie doesn't wear a wedding dress with a wikia logo on the back and timmy with a wikimedia logo on the back of his tuxedo XD [03:36:16] 23rd. [03:40:14] werdnus, what's your purpose? :P [03:45:05] *werdnus fires up unetbootin. [03:45:13] chuck: I've got some projects. You'll probably hear about them soon. [03:49:06] werdnus, oh mai gosh, secret projects? [03:49:42] 03nad * r43186 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/ (RecordAdmin.php RecordAdmin_body.php): make forms css class type-record not recordadmin [03:50:38] chuck: no, I just don't feel like explaining for the tenth time :p [03:50:54] werdnus, :< please, do explain one more time :P [03:52:04] Quick, I need a name for my laptop [03:55:25] sphix [03:55:26] werdnus, lappy is always good [03:55:37] if not that, then go with poqcmw [03:55:46] *werdnus runs pwgen and picks a name. [03:56:16] Iept Chiu Iaew Ghea Uact Ploe Oept Scree Woi Oaht Ioaglei Ieowhue Krout Riesth Eyxiea Yeautl Viosm Uagoe Uecfau Eauquioe [03:56:32] meifeime [03:58:20] name it brion [04:01:36] chuck: He's asleep, I think its the middle of the night where he is [04:02:56] 8pm, and he meant "name it 'brion'" [04:03:01] *Splarka pokles MJ ^_^ [04:04:43] Splarka: Ahh. I thought he was asking brion to name it :) [04:09:48] *chuck thought brion lived in san francisco or something [04:10:08] chuck: He does, as far as I know (or at least thought) [04:11:33] he does. [04:29:58] r [05:14:22] I haven't tried it, but how horrible is MediaWiki support for IIS/SQL Server (or just IIS and MySQL) [05:16:15] (ignoring performance, i've got a group of W2k3 servers one of which will be pretty much dedicated to running two copies of mediawiki and a small 3-page static site [05:32:23] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10cyp) [05:52:13] 03raymond * r43187 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: Follow up per r43173: message was renamed. [05:53:20] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 (10nocat>... construct would fulfil our original request. [05:53:20] -- [05:53:21] Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email [05:53:23] ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- [05:53:25] You are the assignee for the bug. [05:53:27] You are watching all bug changes. [05:53:31] _______________________________________________ [05:53:33] Wikibugs-l mailing list [05:53:35] Wikibugs-l) [05:53:38] heh [05:53:44] *werdnus giggles amusedly. [05:53:58] So now I know how wikibugs gets alerts. [06:38:25] hi [06:40:12] I'm having trouble getting MediaWiki::API working on fedora... "Can't load '/home/dmb/perl5/lib/perl5/i686-linux/auto/JSON/XS/XS.so' for module JSON::XS: /home/me/perl5/lib/perl5/i686-linux/auto/JSON/XS/XS.so: undefined symbol: PL_unitcheckav at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/XSLoader.pm line 70." [06:40:29] can anyone help? [08:03:34] 03(mod) filter history of edits on bots (hidebots=1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16228 +comment (10dungodung) [08:20:10] 03raymond * r43188 10/trunk/extensions/ContactPage/ (ContactPage.i18n.php SpecialContact.php): [08:20:11] * Make form consistent with Special:EmailUser [08:20:11] * Use proper XML functions [08:20:11] * Use CSS classes for table construction for proper RTL support [08:20:11] * Move : into messages for consistency [08:52:05] <_wooz> lo [09:25:14] Hi all. I'm new to mediawiki and am trying to set it up on my intranet for developers to use as a collaboration tool. I get the "Can't write config file aborting." when trying to run the config via browser. I checked the dir permissions on my linunx box conf dir... and it has the read/write access [09:25:34] <_mary_kate_> for everyone? [09:27:15] the dir has, what about the file inside ? :o [09:27:32] <_mary_kate_> the files inside don't need write access to the web server [09:27:46] hmm [09:27:52] most adults are actually pretty juvenile [09:27:53] http://definr.com/definr/stats [09:27:55] :o [09:29:08] what, sex is only 3rd and food is first ? :o [09:30:18] priorities [09:30:55] hmm [09:32:19] well, the internet is for porn [09:32:37] for food, you got your mom or wives [09:35:52] *crickets chirp* [09:44:40] alrex021_: uh... which directory *exactly* are you talking about? also, *who* has read/write access to that dir? [09:45:58] http://stats.grok.se/en/top [09:46:02] we're a bunch of perverts :P [09:46:10] look at commons's [09:46:29] that thing doesn't have commons, does it? [09:46:38] http://stats.grok.se/commons/top well... [09:46:41] oh it does [09:46:57] 13h 13m 30s until the polls close in Indiana and Kentucky [09:47:04] index.html? wtf? [09:48:14] DarkoNeko: since this is evaluation squid hits, i suspect it's actually looking at http://commons.wikipedia.org - which is the old url, and not really used any more. [09:48:15] <_mary_kate_> perhaps it considers / or /wiki/ with no filename as index.html [09:48:24] maybe [09:48:29] that's likely [09:48:36] http://stats.grok.se/en/200808/Sarah_Palin [09:48:38] check that out [09:48:56] yeah, the fun fact is it's hte same for other wikis too :) [09:49:46] yea, goes from "who the fuck..." to "oh no, that chick" in no time. [09:49:50] http://stats.grok.se/en/200808/Human_penis_size [09:49:55] http://choixduchaos.blogspot.com/2008/10/qui-est-sarah-palin.html <- in french, but well, there's the pic [09:49:56] *g* [09:50:12] http://stats.grok.se/en/200809/Human_penis_size -- why the sudden spike? [09:50:47] This article ranked 915 in traffic on en.wikipedia.org. <- <_< [09:50:48] werdnus: world penis day? [09:50:58] http://stats.grok.se/en/200808/Locus [09:51:00] wht the hell? [09:51:23] Oo [09:51:32] main page display ? [09:51:40] <_mary_kate_> werdnus: people were looking for palin but forgot the 't' [09:51:50] palint ? :D [09:51:54] just kidding [09:51:57] Locust? [09:52:15] http://stats.grok.se/en/200808/Locust well... [09:52:39] http://stats.grok.se/en/200808/2_Girls_1_Cup [09:53:23] YouPorn is more popular than Harry Potter. [09:55:29] 03(NEW) Search persistently fails for certain namespace selections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16236 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (matthew.britton) [09:58:06] 03(NEW) Sort results by date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16237 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (matthew.britton) [09:59:06] Duesentrieb: /config dir [09:59:56] <_mary_kate_> timeline extension = lamest thing ever [10:00:02] <_mary_kate_> root@ms1:/mnt/upload4/wikipedia/en#ls timeline | wc -l [10:00:03] alrex021_: ok then. what exactly are the permissions? [10:00:04] <_mary_kate_> 193154 [10:00:18] alrex021_: and the ownership? [10:01:25] 03(NEW) Search should return shared repository results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16238 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (matthew.britton) [10:04:26] Duesentrieb: I've checked my apache logs and no errors. I only see a HTTP 200 Response [10:05:12] alrex021_: that's no surprise. there's no web server error. and it's already telling you what the problem is. it can't write the file. [10:05:18] the remaining question is: why? [10:05:31] so, please give the exact file permissions and ownership. [10:05:43] should you be using SE Linux, also check ACLs [10:09:59] drwxrwxrwx 2 apache apache 4096 Oct 2 19:16 [10:10:25] <_mary_kate_> ACLs aren't what you need to check if you use selinux - rather, policies, or whatever it's called [10:13:00] whatever :O [10:13:18] alexanderwz: world writable is a bit dangerous, but yes, it should be able to write. [10:13:35] unless teh disk is full, or you have php safe_mode preventing it, or something like that [10:15:39] yay [10:15:45] at least some sense in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 [10:15:50] altough it is still horrible [10:17:46] what about apache config? I set chown for my root dir of mediawiki to apache.apache [10:35:45] Ok, I turned off SeLinux and it worked [10:35:45] Not a permanent solution but at least I know where the problem is....policies I take it/ [10:46:52] <_mary_kate_> you probably need to change the context on the config dir [10:46:57] <_mary_kate_> so httpd can write to it [10:49:24] SeLinux is evil [10:59:31] totally agree. We are behind a firewall and this box holds nothing of major importants :) [11:00:19] <_mary_kate_> selinux is useful in some places, but the distributions that turn it on by default are annoying [11:00:33] <_mary_kate_> if you don't have a good understanding of MAC (which most users don't) it's just going to get in the way [11:05:09] MAC? [11:05:18] Media Access Control? [11:05:30] <_mary_kate_> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mandatory_access_control [11:10:02] $wgLogo, where do I set this to point to our own Wiki Logo? Which file or page? [11:11:16] <_mary_kate_> LocalSettings.php [11:18:46] thx [11:27:59] 14(INVALID) link not working properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16234 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:31:57] 03river * r43189 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/TSphp-nsapi.spec: TSphp-nsapi: new spec [12:44:34] 03(NEW) Allow indexing of all namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16239 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (matthew.britton) [12:48:53] 14(DUP) Search should return shared repository results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16238 +comment (10rainman) [12:48:54] 03(mod) Image from Commons doesn' t show up when searched in Wikipedia search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5101 +comment (10rainman) [12:49:41] 04(REOPENED) Image from Commons doesn' t show up when searched in Wikipedia search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5101 +comment (10rainman) [12:51:15] 03(mod) Search persistently fails for certain namespace selections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16236 +comment (10rainman) [13:24:15] 03(mod) Search persistently fails for certain namespace selections with certain search preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16236 summary; +comment (10matthew.britton) [13:24:56] 03(mod) Search persistently fails for certain namespace selections with certain search preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16236 (10matthew.britton) [13:25:36] 03(mod) Enable Abuse Filter on English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15684 (10happy_melon) [13:26:47] 03(mod) Search persistently fails for certain namespace selections with certain search preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16236 (10matthew.britton) [13:27:59] 03jojo * r43190 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (4 files in 2 dirs): added Ajax to rendering page (w/ graceful fallback for non-JS clients) [13:40:29] I want to poke a dev about this texvc bug: 15777 [14:18:42]