[11:45:45] foo [11:45:56] Splarka:Yes, all pre [11:46:01] ahh k [11:46:12] OK. cool [11:46:15] pre {padding:0; border:none;background-color:none;} [11:46:27] or [11:46:33] .barepre pre {padding:0; border:none;background-color:none;} <-- just for the wrapped pre [11:46:42] Splarka:Great! [12:11:08] how can i add a checkbox on the registerform for new users where they have to agree to the wiki terms? [12:11:37] editing hte log page [12:12:02] but altering the message by saying "by creating an account, you explicity aggree to the ..." looks simpler to me [12:13:17] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/UserCreateForm [12:13:53] bompo: you could also write an extension using this hook ^ [12:13:59] here is an existing one: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CustomUserCreateForm [12:14:49] Splarka:Actually, I was on the "intended" text I wanted to remove the border and background... [12:15:26] MikaelLindmark: right, then you have to wrap all those in a
class you cancel it on [12:15:31] thank you splarka [12:15:34] since both methods create identical
[12:18:24] 	is it possible to enable mysql debugging?
[12:22:03] 	Splarka:OK, I have added the .barepre line to my monobook/main.css but (newline) bla still gives the dotted line. Any clue?
[12:22:54] 	purged browser cache?
[12:23:12] 	Splarka:Yes i did. Perhaps I need to restart it?
[12:23:21] 	no, shouldn't make a diff
[12:23:28] 	can you link?
[12:23:29] 	gewt: yeah, there's a config option for it.
[12:24:28] 	k
[12:24:36] 	bb;
[12:24:39] 	bbl*
[12:25:49] 	Splarka:I started Internet Explorer and it looked correct, so I think it's a cashe problem..
[12:26:03] 	k
[12:27:36] 	Hi, I have a problem with images
[12:28:10] 	I'd like to import files from a local directory, and I'd like to put the images in a directory different from mediawiki/images
[12:28:36] 	I changed the wgUploadPath and wgUploadDirectory to /home/blah 
[12:29:06] 	but the server can't find the image in this directory (localhost/home/blah unknown)
[12:29:59] 	bloubs: wgUploadDirectory is where mediawiki will *put* images.
[12:30:01] 	If I add a symbolic link mediawiki/images to /home/blah mediawiki is not able to build the thumbnails
[12:30:21] 	bloubs: it will only find images it has put there itself, either by uploading, or by importing them
[12:30:44] 	a symbolic link should be fine, provided php can write to the target directory
[12:31:00] 	...and provided images can also be served fro mthere.
[12:31:14] 	(apache doesn't follow symbolic links per default)
[12:34:26] 	Splarka:no, it isn't a cashe problem. See my test at http://www.ndwiki.org/wiki/ND-06.015
[12:37:08] 	MikaelLindmark: where did you re-define it?
[12:37:57] 	oh
[12:38:00] 	http://www.ndwiki.org/wiki/Skins/monobook/main.css
[12:38:04] 	no no...
[12:38:09] 	you want it in MediaWiki:Common.css
[12:38:13] 	and only the second line
[12:38:14] 	ah
[12:38:27] 	I mean't it was defined in http://www.ndwiki.org/w/skins/monobook/main.css
[12:38:29] 	Yes. I was just testing (the first line)
[12:38:32] 	which is an install file
[12:38:43] 	but you override that on-wiki in a page, like MediaWiki:Common.css
[12:38:52] 	hmm
[12:38:59] 	so why does it work in IE
[12:39:03] 	unless IE sucks (true)
[12:39:35] 	It didn't work in IE. I was looking at wrong page
[12:40:10] 	Then I'll remove it in the main.css? Right? Everything in Common.css
[12:41:22] *Splarka 	nods
[12:45:33] 	Splarka:Great it works now, but it's still a light, light light blue background. The border is gone! Thanks!
[12:45:34] 	_mary_kate_, 
[12:45:41] 	http://br.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Linktrail
[12:45:48] 	i think you might be able to just change it here
[12:45:52] <_mary_kate_>	not anymore
[12:45:55] 	\Duesentrieb I have imported one image and actually, it can find it, but it cannot create the thumbnails
[12:46:09] <_mary_kate_>	people kept fucking up the linktrail and breaking the wiki, so it's hardcoded now
[12:46:29] 	some think it needs to be consistent within a given language
[12:46:40] 	_mary_kate_, oh
[12:46:42] 	I got the error: Warning mkdir
[12:46:44] 	_mary_kate_, where can you request it ?
[12:46:50] *Splarka 	thinks it needs to be consistent, in all languages and at all times, since it is a hack to the parser, but is silenced by mob rule
[12:47:08] <_mary_kate_>	spectie: bugzilla.wikimedia.org
[12:47:14] 	Splarka, what does?
[12:47:18] 	_mary_kate_, thanks
[12:47:52] 	but the directory is 777 mode, its owner is www-data (but the link belongs to root, I can't change the owner)
[12:49:49] 	spectie: it is a change in how the parser functions so should be consistent, it is spooky to let it change often (or ever)
[12:50:20] 	Splarka:Why is there a backgrund color when the css have "background-color:none" ?
[12:53:00] 	dunno, voodoo?
[12:53:24] 	I don't see it
[12:54:02] *Splarka 	adjusts monitor
[12:54:30] 	ahh, there it is, barely
[12:54:46] 	dunno
[12:54:47] 	Splarka:hehe
[12:54:58] 	background-color: transparent !important;
[12:55:00] 	maybe
[12:56:39] 	03(NEW) Inputboxes have been broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16246 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Inputbox; (kwj2772)
[12:58:52] 	3(NEW) People think republicans lost the election, plz fix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16247 4BLOCKER; normal; World: United Staes; (mccandycain)
[13:00:52] 	Splarka:YES, that fixed it! Thanks alot! 
[13:01:33] 	hi Splarka
[13:01:36] 	almost got me
[13:02:31] 	rar nike
[13:08:56] 	03(mod) move-subpages should have a collapsed log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14818  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[13:10:43] 	hi, can anyone tell me how the wgUserGroups variable in the JavaScript is set? its list does not match the actual groups for an account
[13:15:24] 	03(mod) Automatic category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3311  +comment (10catlow)
[13:18:26] 	DragoonWraith: in which way does it not match?
[13:19:19] 	var wgUserGroups = ["Member", "*", "user", "autoconfirmed", "emailconfirmed"];
[13:19:28] 	the account is at LEAST in the Bots group as well
[13:19:37] 	that being my main concern at the moment
[13:20:14] 	in /includes/Skin.php -- 'wgUserGroups' => $wgUser->isAnon() ? NULL : $wgUser->getEffectiveGroups(),
[13:20:16] 	it is correctly flagged as a bot in Recentchanges, but since the bot itself uses wgUserGroups to determine whether or not the flag has been set, it throws a warning about that
[13:20:42] 	?
[13:20:50] 	sorry, that meant little to me
[13:20:58] 	I don't have access to the PHP files
[13:20:58] 	on a wiki I am a sysop on, for example, I see: ["sysop", "*", "user", "autoconfirmed", "patroller"];
[13:21:18] 	the sysop group is assigned, the other 3 are implicit
[13:21:27] 	mm-hmm
[13:21:37] 	this account has both Member and Bot assigned
[13:21:44] 	03(mod) There should be a way to change "home" wiki in CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14234  +comment (10kwj2772)
[13:22:01] 	are you sure it doesn't have the bot right, through the member group?
[13:22:12] 	yes
[13:22:58] 	in the Special:Listusers, it's listed under both Bot and Member
[13:23:10] 	and another account (my non-bot account) is also listed under Member
[13:24:29] 	well, it first does a check for all groups the user is assigned to, then it adds '*', then it adds implicit groups
[13:24:59] 	it might be possible to suppress that via extension using UserEffectiveGroups but... that sounds unlikely
[13:25:14] 	can you link to this wiki?
[13:25:17] 	sure
[13:25:29] 	http://baronsbazaar.invisionzone.com/wiki/Main_Page
[13:25:40] 	accounts are DragoonWraith and DragoonWraithBot
[13:26:44] 	are you logged in with DragoonWraithBot in a web browser?
[13:26:54] 	currently, yes
[13:27:02] 	how did you know that?
[13:27:45] 	didn't, was wondering if you were using a script like pywikipediabot
[13:27:59] 	heh, that's exactly what I'm using in general
[13:28:12] 	I'm only logged in to check wgUserGroups
[13:28:25] 	PyWikpedia uses wgUserGroups to determine permissions
[13:28:27] 	unfortunately
[13:28:37] 	it's hard-coded to assume the default configuration
[13:28:46] 	so my custom group "Member" is not being understood
[13:29:43] 	MSIE, FF, Opera?
[13:29:55] 	Firefox
[13:31:02] 	javascript:void(alert(wgUserGroups.join(' ')))
[13:31:09] 	what do you get if you paste that in the location bar?
[13:31:22] 	hmm... now the site is hanging on me
[13:32:29] 	same thing - Member * user autoconfirmed emailconfirmed
[13:32:54] 	http://baronsbazaar.invisionzone.com/wiki/Special:Listusers/bot
[13:33:01] 	hmm, try making an edit
[13:33:06] 	I think you're no longer a bot
[13:35:21] 	something rather screwy with your rights setup
[13:35:59] 	you have 3 groups almost the same name, heh, confusing
[13:36:06] 	that's... odd
[13:36:14] 	indeed, you ain't no bot
[13:36:42] 	disappeared between 14:07 and 14:13
[13:37:01] 	well... 13:59 and 14:13
[13:43:38] 	hi, back, something weird just happened with my IRC
[13:44:50] 	DragoonWraith, its about freenode, not "your" "IRC"
[13:44:56] 	what's the last function called in OutputPage.php to return the fully rendered page's html?
[13:45:25] 	huh? I meant that the program I'm using, or else my connection, just freaked out - unless it was a system-wide thing?
[13:45:29] 	I assumed it was on my end
[13:45:32] 	03(mod) Page saving error MW1.13 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16227  15enhancement->major; normal->high (10marvinp)
[13:45:38] 	it's not
[13:45:44] 	[[netsplit]]
[13:46:34] 	ahh
[13:46:36] 	ok
[13:46:43] 	I pretty much never use IRC
[13:50:11] 	splitnet
[13:52:36] 	net // split
[13:53:20] 	ANYway
[13:53:29] 	back to wgUserGroups
[13:54:05] 	er
[13:54:07] 	actually
[13:54:15] 	I don't really think I have any more questions at the moment
[13:55:40] 	^^
[13:57:01] 	good afternoon
[13:58:35] 	I would like to put a background image on a table but i've read background-image is not authorired, how I could do that
[13:58:50] 	do you have access to the PHP files?
[13:58:55] 	you'd need to change some settings
[13:58:59] 	yes
[13:59:02] <_mary_kate_>	serwou: give the table a class and add the CSS in [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]
[13:59:08] <_mary_kate_>	*don't* edit any php files 
[13:59:12] 	ok
[13:59:36] 	how I give a class to a wiki table? Should I switch to HTML table tags ?
[13:59:41] 	oh, yeah, that DOES make more sense
[13:59:48] 	no, you can use Wiki syntax
[13:59:54] 	{| class="whatever"
[14:00:00] 	cool
[14:00:02] 	hold on
[14:00:34] 	thanks for the tip
[14:06:53] 	I changed a parser extension to my needs and the result only shows up in the edit view ABOVE the preview content. when i save the article it's not showing up. Here's the little code: http://rafb.net/p/8OOhK291.html Any idea what is wrong?
[14:15:05] 	03(mod) Too much spam via Mailing List bounce/moderation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11845  (10ccsftiuxmeek)
[14:15:23] 	damned, my mediawiki is protected via .htaccess, it seems like the css can't have access to the sub-directory
[14:15:43] 	03(mod) Too much spam via Mailing List bounce/moderation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11845  (10N/A)
[14:16:47] 	uh
[14:17:10] 	I'm not terribly familiar with .htaccess, but I don't see what it has to do with this?
[14:17:29] 	Commons.css should be included in every page
[14:17:39] 	and therefore definitions added to it should affect that page
[14:18:31] 	Common.css*
[14:18:33] 	not plural
[14:22:19] 	well, my webserver is restricted access, for each hits, you must be authenticate
[14:22:24] 	well, should work
[14:22:30] 	gonna double check my URL
[14:22:58] 	k
[14:28:32] 	{| class="tablebackground"     and then on MediaWiki:Common.css : background-image: url('images/5/58/Accueil.jpg');
[14:28:36] 	?
[14:28:53] 	ah
[14:28:58] 	you need something like
[14:29:58] 	.tablebackground { background-image: url('images/5/58/Accueil.jpg'); }
[14:30:07] 	you need to tell it what's getting the background
[14:30:22] 	yes, sorry, i've forgot to paste this pat
[14:30:24] 	part*
[14:30:26] 	oh
[14:30:28] 	heh
[14:30:33] 	hrm
[14:30:37] 	mind linking?
[14:30:39] 	I'll look
[14:39:46] 	anyone know of a good plugin for turning wiki pages into a pdf?
[14:42:58] 	troynt, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Search/PDF
[14:44:49] 	Bdka: do you have a recommendation?
[14:45:26] 	depends on what you want to do exactly ... 
[14:46:28] 	I want to export a page as a PDF 
[14:47:31] 	well, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection is pretty neat, used on some Wikimedia projects ... for single pages see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PDF_Writer
[14:48:34] 	some other extensions are linked there
[14:49:18] 	Bdka: thx
[14:51:02] 	does anyone know if there is a way for a Template to do use the version of a page that results from using the "pipe trick"?
[14:51:22] 	(i.e. stripping namespace and parentheticals)
[14:52:25] 	Here is what i did  but my still not able to change the background color : http://pastebin.ca/1245916
[14:53:39] 	hmm
[14:54:18] 	well, for background-color, you shouldn't need to use this at all; that works inline
[14:54:24] 	but, really... this should work
[14:54:37] 	00ff00 is an ugly color, btw
[14:54:51] 	try background:#00FF00;
[14:55:04] 	or background:#00FF00 !important;
[14:55:25] 	That's test purpose DragoonWraith
[14:55:26] 	;)
[14:55:27] 	oh, the !important might be meaningful... but I'd be very surprised if background: instead of background-color: worked
[14:55:30] 	(I figured)
[14:56:15] 	try it with the !important before the semi-colon
[14:56:18] 	not at all Subfader :-/
[14:56:28] 	if that doesn't work, try to confirm that Common.css is being included in the page
[14:56:39] 	if you use View Source
[14:56:46] 	ok table in main.css uses background-color: white; so use background-color: #00FF00 !important;
[14:56:54] 	yeah
[14:57:02] 	there is a @import Common.css
[14:57:07] 	k
[14:57:09] 	that's good
[14:57:19] 	is it before, or after, main.css?
[14:57:25] 	if it's before, then you need the !important
[14:57:31] 	but it really should be after
[14:57:44] 	it's after
[14:58:02] 	well, try the !important anyway, but being after Main.css it should override it
[14:58:04] 	humm, works now, cache problem
[14:58:11] 	oh, d'oh!
[14:58:12] 	heh
[14:58:14] 	been there
[14:58:17] 	done that
[14:58:18] 	many times
[14:59:06] 	time to test with the image (background-image
[15:00:37] 	hooOOoo
[15:00:43] 	nasty cache, seems to works
[15:01:41] 	I had this info in the logs : title=MediaWiki:Common.css&usemsgcache=yes&action=raw&ctype=text/css&smaxage=18000    HTTP error : 304 (was already in the cache)
[15:02:10] 	03(NEW) Prevent search engines from indexing the user namespace in Hebrew Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16247 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (reumil)
[15:02:50] 	Could someone take a look at this extension code http://rafb.net/p/8OOhK291.html and check why the result only shows up in the edit view ABOVE the preview content? when i save the article it's not showing up.
[15:03:29] 	I looked briefly, but I don't know any PHP, sorry
[15:04:26] 	Ok thanks. It looks like another extension is fucking up the parser function
[15:04:45] 	How do I get the little message up in the top left corner of monobook?
[15:05:17] 	how would i make a content box thingy? :>
[15:05:35] 	"content box thingy"?
[15:05:37] 	chuck: what little message
[15:05:50] 	was about to ask that too
[15:06:46] 	DragoonWraith: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:TOCright
[15:07:00] 	Ah
[15:07:37] 	i am very new to wikis / pretty confused; i need to define that in my page and have it as a template defined somehow
[15:07:56] 	is this on your own Wiki, or are you adding a page to a Wiki?
[15:08:08] 	check if there is a Template:TOCright on the Wiki
[15:08:22] 	DragoonWraith: well, wiki for a npo; making open source games :-)
[15:08:36] 	DragoonWraith: the wiki was just started, so no templates ....
[15:08:53] 	well, some are added by default I think... TOCright might be one of them
[15:08:55] 	either way
[15:09:10] 	go to your.wiki.net/wiki/Template:TOCright
[15:09:19] 	obviously switching the URL to match the Wiki
[15:09:29] 	if there is already one there, you should be able to use that
[15:09:30] 	if NOT
[15:09:37] 	then you can copy the code from the page you linked to
[15:09:43] 	by the way
[15:09:57] 	you use it with {{TOCright}} in the page
[15:10:07] 	yeah, that's the plan, tryin to actually do that xD
[15:10:19] 	it puts the "TOC" (Table of Contents) on the right side, roughly in the vertical place that the code shows up
[15:10:27] 	hope i'll get it right.. 
[15:10:36] 	the stuff inside the  tags won't work
[15:10:55] 	because you don't have a Utility Templates category or the documentation page
[15:11:07] 	making the Utility Templates category is probably a good idea
[15:11:14] 	if i want to use one alligned to the left? TOCleft template with the code changed, right? xD
[15:11:21] 	ah, well
[15:11:23] 	you could
[15:11:31] 	and there should be a Template:TOCleft on the site you linked to
[15:11:37] 	which has some additional features
[15:11:39] 	:-)
[15:11:39] 	however
[15:11:42] 	TOCs in general
[15:11:53] 	are automatically added to any page that has more than three headings
[15:11:59] 	(headings being the bits between ='s_
[15:12:01] 	if you laways want the toc on the right use #toc { float:right; margin: 0.7em 0 1em 1em; } in MediaWIki:Common.css
[15:12:03] 	so like
[15:12:05] 	== Heading ==
[15:12:37] 	and for something with 3 or less headings, you can force the TOC to appear using __TOC__
[15:12:37] 	DragoonWraith: oh, i had only 2 so far, so i need to add more..
[15:12:38] 	Or if you want TOC to go right in one page, better to use __TOC__
[15:12:50] 	DragoonWraith: i see :-) thanks
[15:13:01] 	Subfader, The little messages on Wikipedia, they used to say like "Please donate" or something
[15:13:05] 	you can also force it to not include a TOC even with more headings by using __NOTOC__
[15:13:08] 	str4nd: roger 
[15:13:10] 	right up in the top left corner to the right of the logo
[15:13:35] 	generally those went across the entire top of the screen; I don't really consider that to be "left"
[15:13:39] 	anyway, uh...
[15:13:49] 	it's one of the system messages I think
[15:13:55] 	there are many ways to realize that. check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HeaderFooter
[15:14:15] 	chuck: or check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PayPal
[15:14:45] 	pretty sure MediaWiki has a built in way to add messages on the top like that
[15:14:47] 	DragoonWraith: indeed; but if not including TOC, then just why not just erase {{TOCleft}} from the page? :P
[15:15:37] 	what's the situation for using __NOTOC__ ?
[15:15:44] 	because toc comes automatically otherwise
[15:15:49] 	oh
[15:15:54] 	HeaderFooter lets you set a header or footer per namespace etc. Quite useful
[15:16:11] 	sounds it
[15:16:41] 	actually, speaking of those banners - the current one is rather large and obnoxious, I think
[15:17:29] 	annoying. more often and offensive with every time
[15:18:11] 	well you can toggle it away
[15:18:16] 	offensive's a stretch, I think
[15:18:19] 	is anyone using the Collection plugin on their wiki?
[15:18:40] 	running into "This subpage of Collection does not exist "
[15:19:17] 	first letter capitalization problem ?
[15:19:34] 	troynt: where did you get that message?
[15:20:14] 	@ DarkoNeko: ? {{DISPLAYTITLE:_____}}?
[15:20:23] 	uh
[15:20:23] 	oh
[15:20:24] 	wait
[15:20:26] 	nevermind
[15:20:31] 	that was in response to troynt
[15:20:40] 	I was trying to figure out who you were talking to
[15:20:49] 	or if you were asking a question
[15:21:18] 	:)
[15:21:33] 	Argh, the global sitenotice is screwing up all the FA icons, page protection icons, etc.
[15:21:38] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
[15:22:01] 	lol
[15:22:11] 	oh, that is bad
[15:23:39] 	wouldn't happen with HeaderFooter lol
[15:38:15] 	thanks you for the help
[15:38:17] 	CU
[15:44:31] 	03(mod) Sort results by date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16237  (10matthew.britton)
[15:47:13] 	CU, he said, lol
[15:48:47] 	I'm very proud of myself that I didn't realize what he meant
[16:04:47] 	that's the usual abbreviation for checkuser
[16:04:54] 	but I assume he meant "see you"
[16:05:06] 	(as far as my crappy english pronounciation is concerned)
[16:05:33] 	heh
[16:05:42] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Checkuser <-
[16:05:49] 	neither of the Wikis I work on are large enough to use CheckUser pretty much ever
[16:05:52] 	I know what it is
[16:05:55] 	ah, sorry :)
[16:05:57] 	heh
[16:06:04] 	czechuser :P
[16:06:07] 	haha
[16:06:13] 	often on this chan, people install wikipedia but have no idea how it works :)
[16:06:21] 	s/wikipedia/mediawiki/
[16:06:23] 	nor edit it
[16:06:29] 	yeah, yeah
[16:06:38] 	MW
[16:07:06] *DarkoNeko 	likes this week's wikizine :)
[16:08:20] 	image: -> file: , new search system, renameUser upgraded :)
[16:09:15] *DragoonWraith 	is interested
[16:09:18] 	link?
[16:09:25] 	http://en.wikizine.org/2008/11/year-2008-week-45-number-101.html
[16:09:40] 	I think I'l ltranslate that or a part of it for french readers
[16:16:55] 	Evening. Looking for a function that I can't seem to find... Is there any way to create a form that updates another form when you input a value. Like for making a converter between Celsius and Farenheit per example?
[16:17:22] 	use a Template
[16:17:32] 	if you have ParserFunctions installed, anyway
[16:17:36] 	something like
[16:18:02] 	BOX A : Temperature Celsius, BOX B : Temperature Farenheit.   Changeable by user without editing the page.
[16:18:54] 	ok, so you want some kind of button that switches values from one to the other?
[16:19:02] 	Yeah, exactly. 
[16:19:15] 	Like something to calculate speed after a time falling etc. 
[16:19:17] 	ok, definitely possible, but my JavaScript is weak
[16:19:25] 	ah, so text input too
[16:19:28] 	again
[16:19:31] 	should be possible
[16:19:32] 	I don't know how
[16:19:48] 	And with a open box where one could enter a value, and have it update realtime. 
[16:19:54] 	you might need an extension for it, too
[16:19:55] 	Used to know how to to it realtime... 
[16:20:04] 	.... but only in DHTML. 
[16:20:27] 	DHTML isn't really a language, it's more of a concept
[16:20:45] 	DHTML is usually accomplished in JS or PHP or some such, if I understand correctly
[16:21:04] 	*nods* I think it was JS on the pages I created. 
[16:21:11] 	probably
[16:21:23] 	it's the most common/simplest
[16:21:36] 	getting JS into a MW page shouldn't be *too* hard
[16:23:04] 	I'll keep looking then. I was mostly wondering if there was allready a extension or something someone had done allready. 
[16:23:09] 	*grins* Laaaazy 
[16:23:10] 	:)
[16:23:17] 	probably is
[16:23:20] 	I just don't know it
[16:34:09] 	DragoonWraith: heya, around?
[16:34:20] 	yeah, sup?
[16:34:53] 	DragoonWraith: fighting with the wiki xD
[16:35:24] 	DragoonWraith: so i made a template TOCleft
[16:35:28] 	k
[16:35:43] 	DragoonWraith: want the code for Contents like the one over here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_(series)
[16:35:54] 	something along the lines of __TOC__?
[16:36:13] 	um i guess
[16:36:20] 	ignore that for now
[16:36:23] 	first, on the linked page
[16:36:36] 	that Contents box is auto-generated by the wiki
[16:36:57] 	so it doesn't appears in the template list when editing the article, right?
[16:37:09] 	no, the template is only used for moving the TOC around
[16:37:19] 	hence TOCleft, TOCright
[16:37:31] 	oh, a... setting...
[16:37:36] 	?
[16:37:56] 	ok, so what do to?
[16:38:06] 	well, I'm not certain I understand what you're trying to do
[16:38:12] 	what about that box are you trying to get?
[16:38:21] 	the way it does like 2, 2.1, 2.1.1?
[16:38:23] 	Any tips for converting a MySQL MediaWiki database to a Postgres MediaWiki database?
[16:38:28] 	with the sub-points?
[16:38:36] 	DragoonWraith: i don't get a content box at all...
[16:38:50] 	add __TOC__ to the top of the page
[16:38:52] 	DragoonWraith: i actually know to do the sub-points (more "=")
[16:38:58] 	oh, will try that now
[16:39:13] 	or, actually, it's probably better to put it after the first paragraph, before the first heading
[16:39:27] 	but that's up to you, wherever you want it to show up
[16:39:41] 	DragoonWraith: worked :D
[16:39:45] 	yay!
[16:39:48] 	thanks mate
[16:39:51] 	no problem
[16:40:41] 	DragoonWraith: homm 3  / disciples 2 fan by any chance?
[16:40:52] 	or similar games...
[16:41:18] 	cool fantasy nickname :-)
[16:41:18] 	well, define "similar games" - I haven't played either of those, but I do play a fair number of RPGs
[16:41:23] 	heh
[16:41:24] 	yeah
[16:41:27] 	somewhat off-topic
[16:41:29] 	DragoonWraith: oh, too bad :P
[16:41:33] 	yeah
[16:46:19] 	Any benchmarks on which performs better?  Postgres or MySQL?
[16:46:32] 	in a parser extension how can i make this line $buff .= sprintf('{{Media|%s}}', $title->__toString(), $title->__toString(), $title->__toString()); use $wgOut->addWikiText(<<	svippy: with mysql you'll have less trouble
[16:48:18] 	Subfader: Troubles such as?  Setting it up, keeping it running?
[16:48:50] 	maintaining it and using extensions
[16:49:17] 	Makes sense.
[16:49:22] 	But what about raw performance?
[16:49:35] 	Regardless of maintenance.
[16:50:04] 	not MW_dependend. you can google Postgres vs MySQL
[16:52:48] 	svippy, unless your wiki is very large, the database performance should not be a big issue.
[16:53:15] 	Is 1040 articles considered large, Simetrical?
[16:53:16] 	svippy, for very large wikis, MySQL will certainly be better for MediaWiki, because MediaWiki with MySQL is heavily optimized for Wikipedia.
[16:53:21] 	svippy, no.
[16:53:25] 	I assumed so.
[16:53:57] 	It's just that... my Wiki seems very slow.
[16:54:09] 	And I cannot put my finger on which is the bottleneck, PHP or MySQL.
[16:54:16] 	Almost certainly PHP.
[16:54:51] 	!profiling
[16:54:51] --mwbot--	For information on how to enable profiling for MediaWiki, see 
[16:55:11] 	try raising the memroy limit in LocalSettings, e.g. ini_set( 'memory_limit', '64M' );
[16:55:13] 	I have enabled profiling.
[16:55:21] 	It didn't really reveal much.
[16:55:33] 	I probably was unable to read it. o-o¬
[16:56:48] 	Simetrical: sooo, did you check the electoral map this morning? :DD
[16:56:54] 	AaronSchulz, yes.
[16:56:59] 	I was surprised by how close the popular vote was.
[16:57:08] 	About as close as in 2000, wasn't it?
[16:57:42] 	won't really say that is close
[16:58:06] 	46% - to 52%
[16:58:26] 	AaronSchulz: NC ( the state I live in ) is sure taking their time counting those votes...
[16:58:37] 	Simetrical:  I fear that my wiki's database is somewhat of an older date, in that large portions of its data types haven't been updated since 1.6.  Is there a script to convert old formatted MediaWiki databases to the current format?
[16:58:42] 	AaronSchulz: http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html
[16:59:12] 	svippy, you need to run maintenance/update.php whenever you update.  If you don't, the wiki won't work (you'll get database errors), not subtle.
[16:59:24] 	troynt: Nevada was a bit of a surprise for me
[16:59:24] 	AaronSchulz, hmm, we're using different sources then?
[16:59:33] *AaronSchulz 	uses msnbc
[16:59:38] 	anyone seen the electoral geography course from stanford?
[16:59:38] 	No no, Simetrical, all the fields are there.
[16:59:43] 	AaronSchulz, oh, they've changed in the last few hours.
[16:59:49] 	I just fear that old fields still use their old types, Simetrical.
[16:59:51] 	any county-by-county maps?
[16:59:58] 	A while ago it was 50% to 49%, now CNN is reporting 52% to 46%.  Not close, right.  Okay, then.
[17:00:03] 	AaronSchulz:  Click county leaders on that map.
[17:00:04] 	AaronSchulz: http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html click on the state
[17:00:05] 	svippy, that doesn't really make sense.
[17:00:14] 	svippy, if it's working, everything is updated, basically.
[17:00:21] 	Hm.
[17:00:23] 	AaronSchulz: then zooms into county level
[17:00:24] 	http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html
[17:00:28] 	Still seems somewhat slow, Simetrical.
[17:00:34] 	AaronSchulz, apparently.. the county consistently shows the following pattern: in rich states rich go democrat, poor republican, in poor states rich republican, poor democrat :)
[17:00:35] 	troynt:  No need to zoom in.
[17:00:42] 	svippy, I'll pretty much guarantee you that your slowdowns are due to the application, not the database.  You can run profiling if you like to be sure.
[17:00:47] 	hehe, columbus is a blue island
[17:01:20] *AaronSchulz 	is there
[17:03:03] *svippy 	is not.
[17:03:40] *DragoonWraith 	had the option of voting in New York or Californa - neither of which actually would have made any difference
[17:03:47] 	i know i repeat myself but could someone take a look at this extension code http://rafb.net/p/8OOhK291.html and check why the result only shows up in the edit view ABOVE the preview content? when i save the article it's not showing up.
[17:03:53] *DragoonWraith 	did vote anyway
[17:05:22] 	troynt: ahh, clicking "county leaders" is nice
[17:20:19] 	as soon as i use $wgOut->addWikiText(<<	and I get that UNIQ error
[17:21:34] 	i'm trying for days already and am getting tired trying :(
[17:33:54] 	Subfader: addWikiText outputs to UI, it doesn't save to anything
[17:35:49] 	well, I try to make teh output the same as on a working special page: http://rafb.net/p/b13hto61.html
[17:36:01] 	Subfader: $wgOut (OutputPage) only "Outputs as Page" so don't expect anything to stay
[17:36:22] 	If it's part of some contents, you can use something inside the parser
[17:36:31] 	The ParserCache is also a posibility
[17:37:18] 	i made the output work so the file names are there in plain text. now i just need to put them in wiki markup
[17:41:03] 	this way i get the plain file names http://rafb.net/p/4JUeB085.html
[17:58:59] 	so how can make the parser output $buff .= sprintf('%s', $title->__toString(), $title->__toString(), $title->__toString()); include wikitext? e.g. [[File:%s]]
[18:00:05] 	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on en.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14618  +comment (10cbass)
[18:15:36] 	ok no luck today either. i know i do sth majorly wrong but how should i learn... at least i try
[18:15:43] 	brion: rarr, I wish I could do those bugs like 14618
[18:20:40] 	hi! I have a question about wiki algorhitm: If someone changes a few words in WikiPage al the textarea content saves in database text field? 
[18:21:09] 	I mean  every time content changes a new row is inserted?
[18:22:36] 	any advice?
[18:32:37] 	aarkerio: yes
[18:34:56] 	even if page just change one word all the content is saved inside new row?
[18:35:08] 	yes
[18:35:18] 	ok, thx!
[18:44:50] 	03(NEW) enable new usergroups and rights for en.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16248 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (m.hamm.1)
[18:47:40] 	03(mod) enable new usergroups and rights for en.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16248  (10m.hamm.1)
[18:51:51] 	hello all. I wonder if its possible to restrict access to a namespace to a specific group only?
[18:52:46] 	!access control | romaia
[18:52:46] --mwbot--	romaia: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see .
[19:01:29] 	03(mod) Enable .odt upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16241  (10mickewiki)
[19:03:40] 	I need help with creating pages that follow a template that has predefined structure...Specifically, I want to create a few templates that a user can select and then the markup with be automatically added to the edit page and the user can then fill in the areas as needed
[19:40:16] 	can someone link http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/author/ialex to "IAlex" account? :)
[19:41:42] *Raymond__ 	appends http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/author/Raymond to "Raymond" :-)
[19:42:18] 	or I might promote myself to Coder group and then do it :P
[19:52:39] 	Doc on mediawiki.org says that a hook handling UserLoadFromSession takes a non-reference $user arg. That's not right, is it? (AutoAuthenticate hook used to take a reference &$user.)
[19:54:32] 	objects are always passed by ref in PHP5
[19:55:27] 	ah, got it, thanks!
[19:55:29] 	but the main difference is that UserLoadFromSession is called from inside the User object, which was not the case for AutoAuthenticate
[19:56:20] 	not following you on the latter part--how does that affect things? it's still the hook used by authentication plugins to fill out $wgUser, right?
[19:57:43] 	iirc, this mean you can't replace the object, you'll need to call one of its method, e.g. setId()
[19:59:01] 	alright, thanks.
[20:04:59] 	03(NEW) Images in categories - bad counting and navigation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16249 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (old_school_junkie)
[20:28:08] 	Question re: localsettings.php not being created in conf file.  
[20:31:47] 	chmod conf to 777 including index.php, drop old database, restart mysql.  Index.php runs, creates db - including all tables however, no localsettings.php file.  any ideas?  mediawiki v1.13.2.  this sam eiversion ran w/o any problem on another server.  OS fedora fc9.
[20:35:02] 	"Index.php runs." You mean config.php?
[20:35:14] 	Config.php is the file that creates LocalSettings.php.
[20:37:00] 	in the /config file is index.php, I thought this was the script to configure the wiki?
[20:37:24] 	Oh, right.
[20:39:24] 	anyone run into this problem?  I've about goggled it to death, tried their solutions, still no LocalSettings.php.  ANy help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:41:26] 	03aaron * r43223 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (3 files): 
[20:41:26] 	*Merge add and remove tag functions into one
[20:41:26] 	*Log tag/status changes
[20:41:26] 	*Some whitespace tweaks
[20:41:26] 	*TODO: show change log somewhere :)
[20:41:37] 	Did you make sure your config directory is writeable?
[20:41:53] 	yes config 777
[20:45:08] 	good evening
[20:45:54] 	I have a question... which is the News module used at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki ?
[20:46:03] 	CIA-61: you lag!
[20:46:08] 	is it builtin, or it's downloadable as a separate extension?
[20:47:06] 	insomniac: it's templates
[20:47:25] 	ialex: can you give me more information, please?
[20:47:49] 	I was searching for a news module, supporting a limited number of news items per page
[20:47:58] 	insomniac: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MediaWiki_News
[20:47:59] 	but that one, too, seems good for me
[20:48:03] 	ialex: thanks
[20:49:28] 	uh.. can't get how to make it work on my installation.. do you have more links to point me out?
[20:49:56] 	I visited that page, yet, today, but it seemed to be just the list of news
[20:50:50] 	insomniac: it's all done by hand. no magic.
[20:50:59] 	insomniac: templates are just good for formatting.
[20:51:48] 	Duesentrieb: I'm sure about what you just said, but I can't get how to do that
[20:51:54] 	insomniac: if you look at http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:MediaWiki_News&action=edit you can see that it's simply a list
[20:52:45] 	Duesentrieb: yes, I saw that, but I thought that the news box in the home page was automatically generated
[20:52:55] 	with the latest entries from that page
[20:52:55] 	nope
[20:52:59] 	nope
[20:53:03] 	all done by hand.
[20:53:05] 	ok :-)
[20:53:07] 	thanks
[20:53:20] 	i did write a news extension...
[20:53:25] 	!ex News
[20:53:25] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "ex". You might try: !bizzwiki !bundels !centralauth !csv2wp !dpl !e !editbuttons !extensionmatrix !extranamespace !feeds !filetype !interwiki !ldap !moderation !next !parserfunctions !renameuser !sidebarex !threads !userapproval 
[20:53:30] 	err
[20:53:32] 	!e News
[20:53:32] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:News
[20:53:37] 	insomniac: ---^
[20:53:43] 	not sure it's *quite* what you had in mind
[20:53:44] 	thanks, i go see it :)
[20:54:14] 	it doesn't really support "items" in the way you probably want it
[20:54:28] 	it can be made to act as a make-shift blog. or as a more filtered version of recentchanges.
[20:54:54] 	it relies on every item being a separate page though
[20:55:36] 	generally, pages are the smallest entity mediawiki deals with. there are some extensions that try to extract sectiosn or some such, but that's generally faky
[20:56:28] 	is it possible to extract all the level-2 titles? like ==my title==
[20:56:38] 	in order to try to split news on that basis
[20:56:56] 	maybe I can write a module that relies on that syntax
[20:57:38] 	03tparscal * r43224 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionStatistics/: Initial import.
[20:57:41] 	03tparscal * r43226 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionStatistics/:
[20:57:46] 	03tparscal * r43225 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionStatistics/ (3 files): Initial import.
[20:58:47] 	03tparscal * r43227 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionStatistics/ContributionStatistics.pages.php: Fixed date validation.
[20:58:52] 	No, I changed my mind. Duesentrieb, I think your extension is OK for my needs, thanks :-)
[20:59:06] 	:P
[20:59:15] 	03aaron * r43228 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevision.php: Scope/style tweaks
[20:59:42] 	03tparscal * r43229 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionStatistics/ContributionStatistics.php: Removed unused vars.
[20:59:47] 	03ialex * r43230 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (SpecialPage.php specials/SpecialVersion.php): 
[20:59:47] 	* Made SpecialVersion directly extends SpecialPage
[20:59:47] 	* entries in $wgExtensionFunctions registred as "array( 'class', 'function' )" are now displayed correctly in Special:Version, e.g. for SkinPerPage extension.
[21:04:40] 	03tparscal * r43231 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/:
[21:04:57] 	03ialex * r43232 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionStatistics/ (3 files): 
[21:04:57] 	* svn:eol-style native
[21:04:57] 	* svn:keywords on ContributionStatistics.php
[21:04:57] 	* tweak comment
[21:05:42] 	03tparscal * r43233 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionStatistics/ (ContributionStatistics.pages.php ContributionStatistics.php): Added proper database connectivity.
[21:07:23] 	03yaron * r43239 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/SpecialReplaceText.php: Added handling of changing titles of (i.e., moving) pages
[21:07:28] 	03yaron * r43240 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ (README ReplaceText.php): New version, 0.3
[21:08:12] 	03raymond * r43241 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionStatistics/: Was merged with r43234.
[21:08:33] 	03siebrand * r43242 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (3 files): 
[21:08:33] 	* Again: svn props
[21:08:33] 	* Fix capitalisation
[21:08:33] 	And... Why copy files, when SVN supports move? Now old revs are not longer connected...
[21:09:30] 	03tparscal * r43234 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (4 files): Merged in ContributionStatistitcs
[21:11:36] 	still looking for LoacalSettings.php help.  THe file is not being created. 
[21:11:58] 	03(NEW) Collections uses the WP:GFDL shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16250 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (mikelifeguard)
[21:11:59] 	rcl2r: is your config directory writable by the webserver?
[21:12:16] 	yes conf dir is writable
[21:12:28] 	do you have safe_mode on?
[21:12:43] 	not to my knowledge
[21:12:53] 	03ialex * r43235 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionStatistics/ (ContributionStatistics.pages.php ContributionStatistics.php): more tweaks :P
[21:12:53] 	it would say if you do when you open up the install script
[21:13:06] 	no safe mode
[21:13:11] 	hmm...
[21:13:22] 	and you run the installer, it is successful, but no LocalSettings gets created?
[21:13:36] 	script runs, creates db, exits gracefully - no files
[21:13:45] 	nothing in the PHP error log?
[21:14:09] 	hmm - location? fedora linux
[21:14:30] 	try looking in the directory where php is installed
[21:14:35] 	sorry a bit of a newbe in the nix world
[21:15:41] 	there's also a chance that you have PHP configured not to log any errors to a logfile
[21:16:20] 	let me look
[21:16:58] 	log errors on... no to find the log
[21:21:12] 	03(mod) There should be a way to change "home" wiki in CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14234  (10mikelifeguard)
[21:22:36] 	03(mod) Remove ?title=*** parameter from RC entries url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11152  (10mikelifeguard)
[21:27:38] 	hello
[21:29:01] 	somebody speak french, please
[21:38:46] 	oui mais je comprends rien Philippe2165
[21:38:58] 	enfin � mediawiki, pas au francais ^^'
[21:39:36] 	Ceridwen, bonjour
[21:39:56] 	plop
[21:40:38] 	par contre je peux balancer mes camarades :)
[21:41:25] 	Ceridwen, j'essaie d'installer une extension
[21:41:55] 	moi j'essaie de mettre un skin
[21:42:01] 	et y a personne pour aider =___=
[21:42:28] 	jamais fait, je pourrais pas t'aider
[21:42:38] 	je me doute :p
[21:43:57] 	ce que je pige pas, c'est que l'extension est bien reconnue (vérifier sur la page version)
[21:44:26] 	mais quand je veux utiliser le nouveau tag : rien
[21:45:38] 	FoeNyx !!!!!!!!!!!
[21:46:47] 	'lo Ceridwen 
[21:47:03] 	tu t'y connais en CSS toi hein hein !
[21:47:43] 	Ceridwen> un peu seulement, mais c'est ptet pas le chan pour en parler si ? :p
[21:47:59] 	si je skine un mediawiki...
[21:48:11] 	ah ok
[21:48:17] 	enfin j'essaie
[21:48:18] 	:s
[21:50:42] 	'lo FoeNyx
[21:53:04] 	03(NEW) Breton linktrail should cover all Breton characters - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16251 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (spectre)
[21:53:59] 	'lo Philippe2165 
[21:55:26] 	FoeNyx, tu connais Extension:SyntaxHighlight GeSHi
[21:56:08] 	Philippe2165> non désolé pas plus que ça
[21:56:56] 	03(mod) Remove ?title=*** parameter from RC entries url - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11152  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[21:59:05] 	Philippe2165: c'est quoi le problème?
[21:59:19] 	ialex, hello
[21:59:21] 	[22:42]  ce que je pige pas, c'est que l'extension est bien reconnue (vérifier sur la page version)
[21:59:21] 	[22:42]  mais quand je veux utiliser le nouveau tag : rien
[22:00:07] 	j'ai suivi http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi pour l'installation
[22:00:37] 	Philippe2165: quelle version de MediaWiki?
[22:01:38] 	ialex ,1.6.10   php 4.3.9 (apache2handler)   Mysql 4.1.22  
[22:01:54] 	Philippe2165: ça ne va pas marcher
[22:02:06] 	ialex, pkoi
[22:02:26] 	Philippe2165: il me semble qu'il faut au minimum 1.7 pour que ça fonctionne correctement
[22:02:42] 	si je me rappelle bien
[22:07:12] 	non, j'ai confondu avec les fonctions du parseur
[22:07:56] 	ialex, ou je peux vérifier la version
[22:08:37] 	Philippe2165: quand tu mets ..., il se passe quoi exactement?
[22:08:57] 	page blanche, rien à place, erreur, ...
[22:09:14] 	ialex, rien à place
[22:09:25] 	hmm
[22:10:03] 	dans la page spéciale : version: l'extension est pourtant bien présente
[22:12:34] 	ialex, ma version de mediawiki est installé dans /opt sur une sme
[22:17:33] 	Philippe2165: essaye aussi d'inclure le fichier "SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi.class.php" juste après SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi.php
[22:17:46] 	(il est dans le même dossier)
[22:19:27] 	ialex, avec un require_once ?
[22:20:28] 	oui
[22:21:02] 	ialex, j'essaie et je te dis quoi
[22:21:49] *Soxred 	is confused
[22:25:26] *ardrigh 	is considering learning some French
[22:25:51] 	ialex, on continue en privé
[22:35:39] 	Simetrical: My online banking uses autocomplete="off" .. That seems like a good solution for the Special:Preferences quirk.
[22:36:02] <_mary_kate_>	MZMcBride: unfortunately it makes the output not xhtml compliant
[22:36:44] 	And we care about that? :-)
[22:36:58] 	_mary_kate_: so does *|foo twice in MediaWiki:Sidebar
[22:38:06] 	can you just have a ** without have it preceded by a * 
[22:38:18] 	i.e., ** one.one
[22:38:25] 	withouth a * one before it
[22:38:38] 	No.
[22:38:45] 	well
[22:38:48] 	yes
[22:38:49] <_mary_kate_>	yes, but it'll look strange and wrong
[22:38:49] 	Not easily, at least.
[22:38:55] 	strange, it works
[22:38:58] 	you can just indent the *
[22:39:12] 	but to understand the prob you have to look at the html generated
[22:39:41] 	* -> , # -> , : -> 
[22:45:23] 	are there plans in mediawiki to incorporate branching to the article structure instead of just having linear history of edits?
[22:46:24] 	imo branchign combined with the revisioncontrol extension for the 1.14 would be a superb hit 
[22:47:34] 	you could export and import a page history to fork it... but that duplicates edits annoyingly
[22:49:10] 	http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AGadgets-definition&diff=19953068&oldid=18223551 but there is nothing in http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:Accessori why?
[22:49:17] 	Splarka: i'm not up to the task for forking myself, i was merely interested if it has been discussed about. branching would allow git/svn style editing which could prove useful with big articles  :-)
[22:51:11] 	piksi: what might work better is sort of a 'for revisions earlier than this, see the revisions of [[Foo]] prior to #XXX' pointer in histories, via a special:fork command, or something?
[22:51:59] 	maybe something like, if the first revision of a new article/page is #FORK [[Foo|123456]]
[22:52:20] 	hmmm 
[22:53:01] 	I tried installing the WIkiChat extension and... "Warning: chmod() [function.chmod]: Operation not permitted in /opt/mediawiki-1.13.0rc1/w/phpfreechat-1.0-beta11/src/pfctools.php on line 156"
[22:53:13] 	Splarka: yeah that might be good
[22:53:13] 	line 156 of the extension contains "chmod($dest, $modefile);"
[22:53:25] 	too strict permissions 
[22:53:43] 	php chmod not allowed for the dir you're trying to access perhaps?
[22:55:12] 	Melos: known 'bug' in the extension, sometimes it helps to wait a few minutes and then null edit MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition
[22:56:27] 	Splarka: Thank you very much
[23:04:27] 	_mary_kate_, Did you get that PM I left you?
[23:04:30] 	a few days ago
[23:04:37] <_mary_kate_>	probably not
[23:04:39] 	03(NEW) block options not shown in gbl-block-log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16252 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (spacebirdy)
[23:09:16] 	hi, im looking for a tool that will let me post/modify data in mediawiki over http(s). at this point i dont really care what language its written in, although ruby is preferable.. i just spent an hour trying to use 2 different perl modules that seem to be broken(?) to do this
[23:09:21] 	03(mod) block options not shown in gbl-block-log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16252  (10mikelifeguard)
[23:10:26] 	do i need to enable a setting before tools like that will work? is it possible mediawiki no longer supports the way this software tries to talk to it?
[23:12:00] 	why isn't (www.)?example.org treated as a url?
[23:12:14] 	it has to begin with a http://
[23:12:43] <_mary_kate_>	all URLs begin with :
[23:12:46] 	benp-: maybe http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgProto
[23:12:48] <_mary_kate_>	www.example.com isn't a URL
[23:12:58] <_mary_kate_>	http://www.example.com is a URL
[23:14:37] 	mohbana, also see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUrlProtocols
[23:25:19] 	03(mod) block options not shown in gbl-block-log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16252  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[23:31:47] 	03(mod) block options not shown in gbl-block-log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16252  (10spacebirdy)
[23:39:01] 	03(mod) block options not shown in gbl-block-log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16252  (10mikelifeguard)
[23:52:12] 	03brion * r43244 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (9 files): merge base files a little more
[23:53:04] 	03brion * r43245 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (3 files): rename file for consistency