[00:01:52] hey look at that media wiki [00:02:08] lil help plz [00:02:10] http://76.94.125.97/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [00:02:29] trying to hunt down where the is coming from :( [00:04:53] laowai: Template:Navbox [00:05:02] ---Body--- [00:05:14] In that section there is a but no opening [00:11:21] 03(mod) Empty pages after a move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16292 (10yann) [00:19:25] 03(mod) Empty pages after a move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16292 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [00:25:59] http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16292 this is a problem: it breaks how bots work [00:26:08] so either pywikipediabot has to be updated urgently, or redirects should be created by default [00:26:30] 03dale * r43337 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (6 files in 3 dirs): updates (basic clip selection, timeline style updates) [00:27:42] yannf: #pywikipediabot [00:28:59] Dantman, why the default mediawiki changed? [00:29:10] this should not happen [00:30:05] at the very least, it should check that the bots are updated before/at the same time [00:30:16] yannf: Have you even tried to move a page manually to confirm that things have changed? [00:30:40] manually the case is checked [00:30:49] Then this is a bot issue [00:31:05] There was a huge discussion about this kind of thing inside wikitech-l [00:31:22] There is no guarantee that the UI will be consistant and unchanging. [00:31:41] indeed [00:31:41] I don't think there's any way to make the default be "unchecked". [00:31:45] Er, I mean, "checked". [00:31:58] If you aren't going to act like a browser and actually parse out form inputs then it's your job to fix bugs [00:32:00] Checkboxes don't submit anything at all if they're unchecked, right? So "nothing submitted" must mean "unchecked". [00:32:12] Ya [00:32:42] A bot should parse out the form inputs, and on type="checkbox" look for checked="..." [00:32:52] Or use the API, nowadays. [00:32:56] Mhmm [00:33:29] sorry, I don't code the bot, not mediawiki [00:33:56] mhmm... which is why you should be poking the people that program the bot instead of the people that program the server software [00:34:01] sorry, I don't understand you, yann [00:34:04] it just happen that this worked before, and it doesn't now with the same bot parameters [00:34:18] yannf, because the bots are buggy, as we've said repeatedly. [00:34:24] We disclaim all responsibility, stab them. [00:34:24] ahh, so then the bot is broken [00:34:33] as suspected [00:34:45] you are not alone - bots break all the time for this sort of reason [00:34:53] however it is still the bot that is broken, not the software [00:35:28] there's a rewrite of pywiki going on to use the API, but due to the massive feature bloat, its going pretty slow I think [00:35:45] also there is only one person doing it, IIRC [00:36:08] wow, I'm glad I decided not to wait for that :P [00:36:45] does it fall back to UI if api-write is disabled? [00:37:50] probably yes [00:39:57] ok, how can practically make the movepages.py module behave as it did before? [00:41:01] yannf: Poke the pywikipediabot developers to fix the bot to send the proper post data [00:41:04] yannf, submit the checkbox in the POST. [00:41:30] what is the significance of creating a page named Project: Something? [00:44:41] jbalint, it depends if Project: is defined as a separate namespace [00:44:56] I'm pretty sure it always is. [00:45:06] Same as, say, "User:". It's always an alias for the project namespace. [00:45:10] i will readabout namespaces. thx [00:45:19] The hardcoded-English-dev-backdoor alias. [00:45:43] *yannf hates when people say go see #there, and in there is nobody in #there [00:45:59] yannf, try #complaints-about-irc-etiquette. [00:48:26] #I-clicked-and-got-empty-room [00:49:10] damn CHANNELLEN=30, #I-clicked-a-block-of-text-starting-with-octothrpe-in-irc-and-all-I-got-was-this-lousy-tshirt woulda been funnier [00:50:08] is there a way to get a list of all pages in a namespace? [00:51:04] Special:Prefixindex/Namespace: [00:51:08] or Special:Allpages [00:51:40] Project: stuff isnt listed in allpages [00:52:06] there is no Project: namespace usually [00:52:12] it is just an alias [00:52:19] to what? [00:52:23] oh, nm [00:52:23] but maybe you have no pages in NS4 either [00:52:29] heh [00:52:32] $wgSitename = 'MediaWiki'; [00:52:35] $wgMetaNamespace = false; [00:52:39] $wgMetaNamespaceTalk = false; [00:52:43] those are the defaults [00:52:52] if the last two are false, they are adapted from wgSiteName [00:52:58] i need to rename these all, i didnt realize Project: would do this [00:53:13] so is the 'default' namespace for a page blank? [00:53:21] if you have wgSitename as 'Foo' Project: will redirect to Foo: [00:53:26] right [00:53:29] and ns5 will be Foo_talk: [00:53:39] if you set $wgMetaNamespace you can customize it separate from {{SITENAME}} [00:53:57] which is desirable when you have a sitename like 'The Wiki about that episode of ALF where he lip synchs with a cucumber' [00:54:18] default "blank page"? don't understand [00:54:18] when is stuff put in the sitename namespace? [00:54:37] i mean if i create a new page, its in the 'default' namespace? none? [00:54:51] main namespace [00:54:57] ok [00:55:00] jbalint: depends on the title [00:55:05] right :) [00:55:08] the namespace it ends up in depends if it starts with a valid namespace [00:55:19] [[Foo:Bar]] is ns-0 unless you have Foo: defined as a namespace [00:55:29] in which case it is 'Bar' in ns-whatever [00:55:44] ok [00:55:48] MW is weird that way [00:55:55] everything gets stuck up the colon [00:56:22] there can be just parts of the page title, or namespaces, interwiki links, interlang links, namespace aliases, namespace redirects, etc [00:56:58] [[Bar]] [[Foo:Bar]] [[En:Bar]] [[w:Bar]] [[Image:Bar]] [[Category:Bar]] [[WP:Bar]] [00:57:17] i didnt even notice until my Project: stuff wasnt in allpages, then I saw the link to it was Wikiname:Xxx [00:57:41] is there any "standarD" way to remove the project alias? [00:58:09] you mean, you want to make Project: a custom separate namespace? [00:58:15] I think that might break things [00:58:37] not custom, just behave like other things that are in the main namespace [00:58:45] ahh [00:58:56] it looks like if i disable/rename it in the code and then rename my pages it should be ok [00:59:15] well, be aware... [00:59:20] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [00:59:26] for example, all over in the default system messages.. [00:59:35] Project: is used to refer to whatever your meta namespace will be latr [01:00:08] like bug reports, about, stuff like that? [01:00:10] 'grouppage-user' => '{{ns:project}}:Users', [01:00:10] 'grouppage-autoconfirmed' => '{{ns:project}}:Autoconfirmed users', [01:00:19] 'aboutpage' => 'Project:About', [01:00:22] things like that [01:00:26] right, ok. [01:00:42] i'm willing to take the risk now and fix it later if some upgrade changes things too much [01:00:45] thanks alot for the info [01:00:49] although hmm, not sure if you can keep {{ns:project}} and remove Project: [01:00:54] enjoy [01:01:01] im using an older version ATM [01:01:11] but i'll ikeep that in mind [01:10:12] hey brion-away [01:12:47] howdy [01:14:55] brion-away: yo [01:15:03] wazzap [01:15:07] brion-away: I've been tweaking the search ui changes [01:15:16] would be nice to get a list of the major stuff wrong with it [01:15:51] sweet [01:16:04] brion-away: the revert summary wasn't very specific ;) [01:16:18] i can't stay more than a few minutes, but i'll be all over stuff the rest of the week :) [01:16:43] iirc there were some oddities with some links showing incorrectly at times, and the general look wasn't too polished [01:16:48] we'll go over it tomorrow :) [01:17:12] brion-away: tell her happy birthday :) [01:18:00] will do :D [01:23:38] A very merry un-birthday? [01:26:29] Higdur, for some reason, I'm getting a bunch of lag errors on the Contributions special page [01:26:31] any ideas why? [01:26:37] *Hi for [01:26:40] *Hello [01:26:46] I'm not sure how I typod that O_o [01:28:25] Hello room! I'm trying to keep MediaWiki from stripping the name="" attribute from my tables, is there an easy way for me to mod this? I am very familiar with php scripting, but not at all familiar with MW's code. Thanks~ [01:28:33] its probably something with the SQL server itself being slow :P those errors appear on WMF occasionally as well ;) [01:32:03] hi, is there a function anywhere that can properly compare two mediawiki version strings, i.e., "1.14alpha" and "1.11", or "1.12" and "1.12beta", properly? [01:35:15] ianweller: if there is, it'll be in GlobalFunctions.php [01:35:46] ianweller, version_compare() [01:36:05] http://us2.php.net/version_compare [01:36:30] squingynaut: name="" isn't a valid attribute for a table [01:36:32] hmm. i wonder if there's a python alternative to version_compare() [01:36:37] *ianweller is writing some pythony stuff. [01:37:29] squingynaut: it is probably being removed by the sanitizer or tidy [01:38:03] hey Krimpet [01:38:08] > You have used the attribute named above in your document, but the document type you are using does not support that attribute for this element. [01:38:13] ? [01:39:02] Krimpet: so mediawiki version numbering follows php's standard then? [01:39:28] ianweller, it should work with that function, at least, I think [01:41:27] w00t! [01:41:31] *werdnus has written Special:SetLogo [01:42:20] !? [01:42:20] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "?". You might try: !ask !bug !defaultsettings !dpl !file !help !info !mw !mwbot !passthru !phpinfo !purge !r !smw !test !viewvc [01:43:22] werdnus, :O! [01:43:28] werdnus, commitcommitcommit [01:44:03] werdnus: hawt [01:47:51] :O :O :O [01:48:23] !help [01:48:23] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [01:48:37] commit it!!! [01:49:17] werdnus, I could use that in my wiki farm :P [01:49:38] !phpinfo [01:49:38] --mwbot-- create a file called info.php in your wiki's installation directory. It should have the following content: ; Visit it with your browser to see information about your php installation. If it doesn't work, check file permissions. Remove the file when done, it makes life easier for attackers. [01:49:53] !purge Hai [01:49:53] --mwbot-- To purge a cached page, such as when making changes to the navigation bar, add &action=purge to the end of the page url, or ?action=purge if using Simple URLs. E.g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?action=purge [01:52:15] *chuck wonders why ?action=purge doesn't work on WP [01:53:07] works for me [01:53:12] works for me too [01:53:19] How do you know it doesn't work? [01:56:37] chuck: it's stuck in a branch for the moment :0 [01:56:45] oh no! [02:31:20] my wiki db won't export properly, is there anyone who is free who can VNC into my machine and check it out? [02:34:27] V: you won't get much help that way [02:34:45] What's the actual error message? [02:35:51] there isn't any, but it's not exporting the DB, it exports but the DB doesn't contain the entire wiki, and I've tried exporting by selecting everything under "wikidb" [02:36:42] what file contains mediawiki's version number [02:36:44] I'm wondering if upgrading it will fix the problem [02:36:44] ? [02:36:49] sec [02:37:32] !backup | V [02:37:32] --mwbot-- V: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [02:39:33] ianweller, run a grep :P [02:39:46] ianweller: DefaultSettings.php [02:40:02] grep -i 'wgVersion' includes/DefaultSettings.php [02:40:17] ianweller, $wgVersion in DefaultSettings.php as werdnus said :P [02:40:19] werdnus, dang you :P [02:42:48] <[-TeAm-AfFliCtIo> *** [7 INVITED ] Thanks for inviting me to #mediawiki, , ! This bot is still being 7Updated. During this proccess, this bot might go offline every hour or so. When this happens, a global message will appear telling all the users, then the bot will automaticaly join your channel again. If you want to know more, feel free to stop by our website at www.tabot.co.cc, or stop by our channel at #ta. Thanks! [02:42:50] mediawiki 1.5.8 I believe it is [02:42:59] o__O [02:43:05] I'm running WAMP, I don't use command line [02:43:15] I'm not even sure if it's accessable in wamp, never tried [02:43:20] I use phpadmin [02:45:28] so do I need to worry about anything if I attempt to upgrade the wiki? [02:45:38] *chuck wonders who invited [-TeAm-AfFliCtIo [02:55:07] 03werdna * r43338 10/branches/on_wiki_configuration/includes/RightsManager.php: Note why that code is ==, not !=. It confused me for a few minutes. [02:55:16] 03werdna * r43339 10/branches/on_wiki_configuration/ (12 files in 3 dirs): [02:55:16] * Add the ConfigurationCache object - for saving memcached hits when retrieving the same sets of data every pageview. [02:55:16] * Allow logo changing via Special:SetLogo. Doesn't currently have any database interaction (just memcached) because I want to talk it over with Brion first. [02:58:35] 03werdna * r43340 10/branches/on-wiki_configuration/: Creating directory so that I can branch extensions as well as phase3 under here [02:59:58] 03werdna * r43341 10/branches/ (on-wiki_configuration/phase3/ on_wiki_configuration/): Move this branch into the phase3 subdirectory. [03:01:35] 03werdna * r43342 10/branches/on-wiki_configuration/extensions/: Create extensions directory [03:02:00] *werdnus apologises for the spam. [03:02:04] 03werdna * r43343 10/branches/on-wiki_configuration/extensions/CentralAuth/: Branch CentralAuth for this branch. [03:02:11] that's the last of it, I promise :) [03:02:33] o.o [04:25:54] mysql> SELECT * FROM `global_group_permissions`,`global_group_restrictions` LEFT JOIN wikiset ON (ws_id=ggr_set) LEFT JOIN global_group_restrictions on (ggr_group=ggp_group); [04:25:57] ERROR 1066 (42000): Not unique table/alias: 'global_group_restrictions' [04:25:59] hmm [04:59:34] werdnus: You can't do a join on multiple tables unless they're all joined (the "table1, table2 JOIN table3" part). [04:59:55] slavie|away: I fixed it anyway. [05:00:12] I forgot to remove global_group_restrictions from the table list [05:00:14] *slavie|away assumed you had by now. :) [05:13:28] Hmm, how do I load *all* extension messages? [05:14:23] $wgMessageCache->loadAllMessages(); [05:14:47] > Hurricane Paloma slams into Cuba, causing millions of dollars in improvements [05:16:42] ouch :P [05:20:47] Splarka, heh [05:26:37] What's the browsearchive permission? [05:43:13] Dantman: as the name implies, it lets you browse archived pages. [05:43:28] Ancient feature? [05:43:49] page deletion is an ancient feature? [05:44:03] well yes.. I suppose it is. [05:44:16] deletedhistory [05:46:23] What, so deletedhistory allows for viewing of the revision list, and browsearchive is the poorly named sister that allows for the actual content to be viewed? [05:46:59] yeah [05:47:08] I think so [05:47:12] ^_^ Yay for poorly documented features [05:47:19] why not look for right-deletedhistory in the messages? [05:47:48] > print wfMsg( 'right-browsearchive' ) [05:47:49] Search deleted pages [05:47:49] > print wfMsg( 'right-deletedhistory' ) [05:47:49] View deleted history entries, without their associated text [05:49:39] Mah well... just creating a nice user friendly permissions map for end users [05:49:57] Perhaps you should read the right-x messages. [05:51:31] Wiki host... things like saying delete and giving out the 5 commonly needed right [05:51:33] +s [05:51:52] Overly verbose and you scare customers [06:49:50] 03(mod) Update to cite.php refs: ids fixed, footnotes, globbed links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16294 (10raimond.spekking) [07:55:15] Where is the manual on how to cite references? [07:59:01] !references | yang [07:59:01] --mwbot-- yang: I don't know anything about "references". You might try: !deleteuser [07:59:04] darn [07:59:31] !cite [07:59:31] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite [07:59:46] yang: ^ That perhaps? [07:59:50] I was going for this one :P [08:20:58] got it thanks AquaNet [08:43:27] Hi [08:43:32] im trying to setup the openid extention [08:45:32] I have it installed but contine to get Fatal error: Define Auth_OpenID_RAND_SOURCE as null to continue with an insecure random number generator. in C:\xampp\htdocs\portal\Auth\OpenID\CryptUtil.php on line 52 with some of the openid services [08:45:44] any ideas [08:47:00] That's not an issue with MW, or the OpenID extension, it's an issue with the OpenID library being used [08:47:35] Dantman: Thats what I thought, can anyone recomment a libary that works? [08:47:42] recommend^ [08:48:05] No it only works with the one library [08:48:09] Im using the one suggested in the instructions [08:48:18] kk [08:48:25] I mean an issue, as in something wrong with your setup [08:48:56] But because it's not MW, or part of the MW extension, the people that'll know the most about it is the support lines for that library [08:51:11] Prom_cat2: it seems that it's complaining that you don't have a good random number generator lib installed. [08:52:17] Prom_cat2: i thought using mt_rand over plain rand should be enough, but... [08:52:30] Prom_cat2: isn't there another line of output with that error message? it seems incomplete. [08:52:35] also, google for the message,.# [08:52:39] <_mary_kate_> mt_rand is only a pseudorandom number generator [08:52:44] <_mary_kate_> it's not suitable for cryptographic purposes [08:53:52] Fatal error: Define Auth_OpenID_RAND_SOURCE as null to continue with an insecure random number generator. in C:\xampp\htdocs\portal\Auth\OpenID\CryptUtil.php on line 52 [08:53:58] Thats all it is [08:53:59] <_mary_kate_> you already pasted that [08:54:28] *Prom_cat2 notes further back in the same file there is tihs [08:54:37] * The filename for a source of random bytes. Define this yourself [08:54:37] * if you have a different source of randomness. [08:54:37] */ [08:54:37] define('Auth_OpenID_RAND_SOURCE', '/dev/urandom') [08:54:40] Prom_cat2: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Define%20Auth_OpenID_RAND_SOURCE%20as%20null%20to%20continue%20with%20an%20insecure%20random%20number%20generator%22&btnG=Google-Suche&meta= [08:54:46] Im using a windows system [08:54:51] Prom_cat2: please don't paste more than two or three lines. use pastebin. [08:54:55] that looks like a linux style tree [08:55:13] Prom_cat2: yes, that's the unix random number generator device. [08:55:27] if you are using windows, god knows how to get good random numbers :P [08:56:10] Prom_cat2: http://classic.elgg.org/mod/vanillaforum/vanilla/comments.php?DiscussionID=1872 [08:56:15] google is your friend [08:56:33] "You are apparently running the client on Windows, which does not have an acceptable source of randomness (unlike /dev/random on Linux.) This is a security measure in the JanRain OpenID library to warn you that you shouldn't be doing this." [08:56:34] *Prom_cat2 will soon find out [08:57:02] once more, windows fails as a platform for anything serious. [08:59:12] *Prom_cat2 is trying to define it as nulll.... [09:02:17] haha [09:02:20] it worked..... [09:38:30] hm. is there a good way to markup notes that should be showed in boxes to the side? like e.g. a "heads up" note in a manual? [09:45:40] <_wooz> lo [09:49:28] hm. i found http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Note, but it seems it's not working on my installation, do i have to do something to turn it on? [09:53:37] parserFunction,s pparently [09:54:07] !parser [09:54:07] --mwbot-- For alternative parsers, see . A new formalization and parser for mediawiki syntax is being discussed on wikitext-l, see . For an (incomplete) specification of mediawiki syntax, see . [09:54:13] no no no [09:54:39] !parserfunctions [09:54:39] --mwbot-- "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [09:54:43] better :) [10:33:22] i'm running a mediwiki 1.12.0 (r4) can i upgrade to 1.13.2 ? [10:34:39] yes. [10:34:42] !upgrade [10:34:42] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [10:35:33] so i can [10:35:52] i'll backup the extensions though [10:39:13] some extension are version-specific (perserFunction is, for one) so you should take a look at there compatibility [10:44:08] yes, upgrade your extensions to match your version of mediawiki [11:18:17] DarkoNeko: ah thanks. i'll check it out. [11:23:40] DarkoNeko: i can't however find the parser function extension which will give me {{note|BLah bla}} :/ [11:26:34] on mediawiki.org, MediaWiki:Note has been deleted: [11:26:40] 12:45, 7 January 2007 MediaWiki default (Talk | contribs) deleted "MediaWiki:Note" ‎ (No longer required) [11:26:50] which leads me to believe maybe it's deprecated somehow. [11:26:52] that the parserfunction extension [11:26:54] it's a whole [11:27:14] and I'm positive there #if on it [11:27:27] a whole what? hrm. i'm not quite sure i understand. [11:27:49] a whole bunch of expressions [11:27:55] #if, #ifexists, etc [11:28:07] yes, but that's not what i'm looking for. [11:28:20] yes it is [11:28:24] note uses it [11:28:47] okay. i see, so it will start working as soon as i install that extension ? [11:28:48] looks at hte code [11:28:56] I hope :) [11:29:03] alright. i'll give it a shot. [11:32:48] örör [11:33:24] DarkoNeko: hm. i now have it installed, but it's still not working :/ you can the note i'm trying to make at http://libxml2wiki.dose.se/The_libxml2_Library#Linux_.2F_BSD_.2F_MacOS_X_2 [11:33:40] http://libxml2wiki.dose.se/Special:Version shows that it is indeed installed. [11:33:53] i guess i need something else too.. [11:34:46] (sorry that the wiki does not allow anonymous editing, the wiki source of that note i'm trying to make is just {{note|Bla bla}}). [11:37:58] ah [11:38:04] you did not copy the tempate itseld [11:38:07] itself* [11:38:15] http://libxml2wiki.dose.se/action/edit/Template:Note?redlink=1 put it htere [11:38:24] I thought you already did :) [11:38:45] oh, where should i copy it from though? [11:38:56] i mean, where is it in the mediawiki installation? [11:42:05] estan: it's a template... it leves in the template namespace [11:42:09] !templates [11:42:09] --mwbot-- For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy . [11:42:14] the one you linked earlier [11:42:58] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Note <- so, this [11:46:42] Duesentrieb DarkoNeko: ah. okay. thanks a lot for you patience ;) [11:46:50] you're welcome :) [11:49:26] (works great now btw). [11:51:18] *DarkoNeko is pretty sure mediawiki uses lib2xml :) [11:57:04] s/lib2xml/libxml2/ ;) and yes probably since PHP uses it. [11:59:08] hm. this might be considered a bit of a hack, but does anyone know if it's possible to do some last minute full-article post-processing? i have a big list of (libxml2) API identifiers, and i'd like to do (pseudo) s/[identifier]/[identifier]/ [11:59:25] i know it will probably slow the wiki down quite a bit, but i don't expect a lot of traffic. [12:00:01] and it would help quite a lot, instead of having a custom tag or something that you constantly need to remember to use. [12:03:18] or, maybe a after-edit hook of some kind is better. [12:05:27] hm. i think http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/EditFilter might be what i'm looking for.. [12:05:36] yeah, that works. [12:05:39] or ArticleEdit [12:05:42] (I think) [12:06:55] yea, EditFilter wasn't quite right, it doesn't allow you to modify anything, just check. [12:08:16] hm. not sure ArticleSave (which i guess is what you meant) lets me do that either.. [12:12:01] check the list [12:12:07] but i guess you have already [12:13:36] yea.. hm. anyone know if using http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/APIEditBeforeSave would work? [12:14:07] i mean, if i modify the $text in the hook function, will it really be modified before save? [12:15:00] or wait, that's only when using the API. nevermind. [12:15:47] so.. the same question but for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ArticleSave ;) [12:17:25] *estan tries. [12:19:15] Fatal error: Class 'ArrayIterator' not found in /usr/home/b4/glacierwolf/includes/StringUtils.php on line 179 [12:19:26] O+O [12:20:44] what am i forgettig? [12:21:01] yea, that worked. great. [12:21:53] Fatal error: Class 'ArrayIterator' not found in /usr/home/b4/glacierwolf/includes/StringUtils.php on line 179 [12:21:58] what is wrong? [12:22:07] did i forget a php extension or soemthing? [12:24:10] fixed [12:24:17] i needed php5-spl [13:03:01] Hi. I have a question. Mediawiki is always validating html codes. i.e: I have a template, it's starting
. I don't want to close this tag, i am closing this tag from another template. But mediawiki is closing this tag. Can i disable this feature? [13:03:46] I want to use this like: {{mytemphead}} My Content {{mytempfooter}} [13:05:53] crap my hook got _really_ slow.. i have to rethink this ;) [13:06:51] i just upgraded my mediawiki from 1.12 to 1.13 [13:07:02] when i open Special:Version page [13:07:33] http://pastebin.com/m24bb8761 [13:07:54] please tell me what is "Expansion depth limit exceeded" [13:10:34] How do I add a show/hide thing to a wiki page? [13:12:58] it's done in Wikipedia's js [13:15:18] what's it called [13:15:29] dunno [13:15:33] *werdna goes to bed [13:18:46] *chuck found it [13:18:56] ... good [13:22:36] hello i have wiki page that's complete but when I click the link it goes to the edit page rather than actual page... [13:24:52] any idea on why that would happen? [13:25:49] http://asianmediawiki.com/Mr._Tadano%27s_Secret_Mission_%E2%80%93_From_Japan_With_Love <-actual page [13:26:16] http://asianmediawiki.com/Katsunori_Takahashi <-- if you click it from this page ...it will go to edit page rather than the actual page [13:27:08] click what link? [13:27:24] the movie page under "Movie" section [13:27:27] not for me [13:27:33] goes to normal page [13:27:39] hmm it opens fine for you? [13:27:56] yes [13:28:04] no one replies but i figured it out [13:28:09] it is a problem with the fck editor [13:28:12] hmm strange [13:28:30] are you sure you aren't double clicking links or header sections? [13:28:55] it's good you figured it out yourself [13:29:16] even if my mouse hovers over the link it shows the edit link [13:29:23] hi ! [13:31:00] i checked from another computer ...and it shows the link as red ... no page exists for it yet [13:31:18] it all works fine for me [13:31:22] hi Ceri [13:31:32] hmm ok thanks...if it works on your end... [13:31:39] do someone know how to rectify this problem ? http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Illustrations [13:32:20] woho. my hook now works. mediawiki rocks; http://rafb.net/p/WAjg7240.html [13:32:42] *estan being a coding newb is a little proud. [13:36:47] nobody knows :s [13:40:15] Ceridwen: memory_limit in php.ini i believe. [13:40:49] it's in the file... ? [13:43:47] php.ini, should be in /etc/php.ini, or /usr/local/etc/php.ini or wherever your PHP is installed. [13:44:26] don't have such a file [13:44:43] well you do have it somewhere, or PHP wouldn't run ;) [13:44:51] lol [13:45:09] create a file test.php on your server and put in it. then visit that file in your browser. [13:45:23] you'll get output that looks like http://dose.se/ [13:45:38] check for Loaded Configuration File /usr/local/etc/php.ini [13:47:26] (or similar). [13:47:39] that will show you where your php.ini is. [13:47:44] i don't have etc/ [13:48:05] okay, but somewhere on your server there must be a php.ini. it might not be in /etc. [13:48:11] but it is somewhere, trust me. [13:48:18] i suppose [13:48:24] and by creating that test.php file, you can check where it is on your server. [13:48:24] i'm looking for it [13:48:40] it will show you where PHP loads its configuration from. [13:49:10] (you can also try typing "locate php.ini" on the server). [13:49:31] but they said I just have to write changes in localsettings.php [13:52:17] sorry, phone rang. [13:52:28] yes but LocalSettings.php is for configuring MediaWiki. [13:52:35] but the error you have comes from PHP. [13:52:51] it's a PHP error, and can be fixed by increasing the memory limit of PHP. [13:53:27] so just create that test.php file and check what it says under "Loaded Configuration File" when you open it in your browser. [13:54:33] but it's strange because the category is empty now [13:56:04] okay, i don't know about that, maybe mediawiki managed to save some change before PHP got that error, anyway if that happened you should be able to rollback that change from the history. [13:56:20] but to get rid of that error, you have to increase the memory limit of PHP. [13:57:36] yes [13:57:53] but I put all images in undercategories [13:58:01] http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Histoire_I [13:58:03] like this [13:58:06] and it works [13:58:46] okay. as i said i have no idea about that, but i know that the error you first showed comes from PHP. [13:59:07] it seems so [14:15:42] estan, Ceridwen is probably on shared hosting, so no php.ini [14:17:01] oh yannf *____* [14:18:13] salut Ceridwen ;) [14:18:17] :D [14:18:23] t'as vu j'ai fait des progr�s ^^ [14:19:47] ben je suis sur un server free mais m�me dans la version de wikimedia que j'ai dl il n'y a pas de php.ini [14:20:22] Ceridwen, php.ini n'est pas visible quand on est en hébergement partagé comme toi [14:21:04] mais dans le message d'erreur il me parle de bitmap.php [14:21:10] ceci dit j'ai rien trouv� de concluant dedans [14:23:03] oh qu'il est beau ! ;) [14:23:13] le site ? [14:23:24] ou l'erreur ? [14:23:26] ^^' [14:24:07] bah en fait, ca r�soudrait peut-�tre le probl�me en reparam�trant les galeries [14:24:15] il faut que je les passe en 3 colonnes [14:24:28] et � la rigueur j'peux limiter � 12 images par pages dans les cat�gories [14:24:31] c possible tout ca ? [14:24:43] paske la galerie illustrations elle fonctionnait au d�but [14:24:44] free a une limite mémoire assez basse [14:24:56] j'ai compris ca [14:25:06] donc si tu as beaucoup d'images dans la même cat, ça plante [14:25:12] du coup j'ai d�plac� toutes les images dans des sous-cat [14:25:18] mais ca a pas r�par� l'erreur pour autant [14:25:18] je ne parle francais.. ehm, un peu francais ;) [14:25:34] :) [14:25:57] yannf > comme je montrais http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Histoire_I [14:25:58] *estan needs to eat. hope you guys figure it out. [14:26:06] les cat�gories d'images fonctionnent toujours [14:26:16] sauf la principale qui veut plus s'afficher, m�me vide [14:26:31] même vide ? O.o [14:26:42] bah y doit rester les liens vers les sous-cat et 1 image [14:26:51] ou 2 [14:26:53] pas plus [14:27:02] vu que j'ai chang� la cat�gorie de la majorit� des images [14:27:14] vide le cache de ton navigateur [14:27:24] bah j'ai fait plein de ctrl+R [14:27:29] on ne sait jamais [14:27:35] mais chez vous non plus ca marche pas [14:27:43] http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Illustrations [14:27:52] donc spa mon navigateur [14:28:31] juste [14:30:06] vu� j'ai progress� quand m�me :p [14:30:25] d'ailleurs le blog qu'on a param�tr� ensemble tourne bien [14:30:29] 03jojo * r43353 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (5 files in 2 dirs): confirm clearing of collection. set move-cursor on article/chapter titles. [14:30:29] il commence � �tre populaire [14:30:56] quand j'vais poser des flyers on me dit : ah ouai j'en ai entendu parler [14:31:23] et l� j'ai un gros coup de pub � la fin du mois, j'ai un stand dans une convention sur le japon � toulouse [14:31:32] donc j'aimerais que le site soit pr�t d'ici l� [14:32:51] mornin all [14:32:51] 03jojo * r43354 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.templates.php: fix [14:32:58] 03jojo * r43350 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (8 files in 2 dirs): use different icons. make show-link an icon. remoevd unused css classes from template. [14:32:59] mais le pblme de bug que j'ai provient peut-�tre de free, je sais pas comment je peux arranger ca [14:33:03] hi brion [14:33:03] 03jojo * r43344 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.i18n.php Collection.templates.php): fix: use translatable string [14:33:14] p� en reparam�trant les galeries [14:33:16] hi brion [14:33:21] bonjour [14:33:52] c'est bizarre que ça plante même quand la cat presque vide [14:34:05] p� en limitant le chargement � 12 images par galeries sur 3 colonnes pour que ca rentre dans ma layout [14:34:11] Ceridwen, essaie de la supprimer pour voir... [14:34:20] mmmh [14:34:44] en plus j'arrive pas � supprimer des images up [14:35:11] Ceridwen, http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Illustrations&action=delete [14:35:33] 03(NEW) typo in psql script - FlaggedRevs.pg.sql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16295 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (grin) [14:35:45] Ceridwen, je dois sortir, a+ [14:36:11] arf [14:36:18] bah je l'ai suppr mais je peux pas la recr�er [14:36:19] elle bug [14:36:36] Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 9912 bytes) in /mnt/117/sdc/5/5/kokoro.no.koe/mediawiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 172 [14:36:50] hi all [14:36:53] hi [14:37:02] yannf > bon j'te tiens au courant stu veux [14:37:16] I'm trying to connect to database on a non-standard port, media wiki 1.7.1, mysql [14:37:36] it doesn't want to recognise the new port, and keeps looking at 3306 [14:37:45] 03siebrand * r43347 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (29 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-11-10 14:18 CET) [14:38:00] benGREEN: put the :1234 on the end of the server hostname ($wgDBserver) [14:38:05] should work... [14:38:11] aha, but it doesn't [14:38:16] (there's a $wgDBport parameter -- ignore it! it's for postgresql) [14:38:28] Ceridwen, ok [14:38:28] I know, I read the docs [14:38:50] can't think why it would see localhost:3312 and still try 3306 [14:40:44] ah [14:40:56] benGREEN: localhost is treated specially. try 127.0.0.1 [14:41:08] 03siebrand * r43348 10/trunk/extensions/ (84 files in 67 dirs): Localisation updates for extensions messages from Betawiki (2008-11-10 14:18 CET) [14:41:15] (when it sees 'localhost' mysql goes for the local socket file instead of tcp/ip. it's a little funky) [14:41:47] 03siebrand * r43355 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (5 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki [14:41:47] brion, you are absolutley right, and the penny has indeed dropped [14:41:58] :D [14:42:09] brion do you have some idea about error : Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 9912 bytes) in /mnt/117/sdc/5/5/kokoro.no.koe/mediawiki/includes/media/Bitmap.php on line 172 [14:42:27] the category is pretty empty now [14:42:41] but the error's always here [14:43:20] Ceridwen: is your wiki using GD (not ImageMagick) for scaling? this uses more in-PHP memory so you might be hitting the memory limit faster [14:43:20] I've delete the category, I tried to recreate it but the error message stay here [14:43:28] try raising it if you can [14:43:47] what is GD ? [14:44:04] brion, is there a way to set the socket? [14:44:17] do i have to something special for my custom skin to show up in my preferences? i followed these instructions; http://www.siteground.com/tutorials/mediawiki/mediawiki_skins.htm [14:44:30] 03jojo * r43351 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: prepend new chapters (instead of appending) [14:44:34] estan, show us your skin ^^ [14:44:46] 03siebrand * r43349 10/trunk/extensions/BoardVote/BoardVote.i18n.php: Fix missing plural for Spanish causing syntax error in r43348 [14:44:59] hmm i guess i'll wait before updating Collection on the live site, jojo seems to be in the middle of it :D [14:45:06] ah nevermind i think i figured it out. [14:45:11] forgot skinname i think. [14:46:31] or no, i changed it and it still doesn't show up.. hold on. [14:47:51] http://dose.se/xmlsoft.org.zip <- my skin. [14:48:02] (it's just monobook with a slightly modified css so far). [14:52:06] do i have to use CamelCase naming for the PHP file for a skin? [14:52:12] (atm i'm using xmlsoft.org.php) [14:53:24] yea, that was it. [15:14:16] 03siebrand * r43352 10/trunk/extensions/ (44 files in 43 dirs): Localisation updates for extensions messages. Rebuilt all messages files, export missed translations from Betawiki. [15:16:24] 03jojo * r43346 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/README.txt: added mw-render --list-writers [15:16:28] hi [15:16:44] 03jojo * r43345 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/README.txt: added list of available writers. reST fixes. [15:18:40] 03aaron * r43356 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.pg.sql: (bug 16295) Missing semicolons [15:19:44] 03(FIXED) typo in psql script - FlaggedRevs.pg.sql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16295 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:24:59] 03mkroetzsch * r43357 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Move refresh code to store [15:26:48] I think I saw a template for support works once on wikipedia, but I cant find this one yet. This template used informations about last change of the page, I'd like to find that one to create a own one but I have to look how it works. anybody has a idea which template this could be? [15:29:20] Hello everyone. I edited my wiki's php.ini file to set the file upload limit to 20M. However, I'm still unable to upload files larger than 8Mb. Does anyone here know what the problem is? [15:29:26] 03(NEW) hide redirect notice when printing articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16296 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (hartman) [15:30:14] maybe there is an variable in the wiki config, too? [15:31:06] I didn't see anything in the LocalSettings.php file pertaining to upload size limit. [15:37:43] 03(NEW) dual application/x-wiki 's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16297 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (hartman) [15:38:15] !uploadlimit [15:38:15] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "uploadlimit". [15:38:18] bah [15:38:27] !uploadsize [15:38:27] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "uploadsize". [15:38:40] but you must! i know it's there! [15:39:02] Is it possible to upload files larger than 8 Mb's to a mediawiki? [15:39:22] aaron_big_noob: yes. the limit is imposed by php and apache, not mediawiki [15:39:41] mediawiki has a limit above which it issues a warning. that can be configured using $wgMaxUploadSize [15:40:00] i'm sure we have a factoid about this... somewhere [15:40:20] 03(mod) hide redirect notice when printing articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16296 (10hartman) [15:40:21] @search upload_file_size [15:40:21] --mwbot-- Results: [] [15:40:32] mwbot: what the fuck?! [15:40:59] Okay, well I set the upload limit to 20 Mb in the php.ini file, but still can't upload files larger than 8 Mb. Do I need to make a change to apache? [15:41:38] aaron_big_noob: you need to restart apache after editing php.ini [15:41:53] you may also have to do something in the apache config, but that's not so likely. [15:42:01] @search upload_max_filesize [15:42:01] --mwbot-- Results: [] [15:42:11] okay i definitely restarted apache after I made the change [15:42:17] using the apache2ctl restart command [15:42:21] 03(FIXED) dual application/x-wiki 's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16297 +comment (10brion) [15:43:22] I have no idea how or what I would need to edit to configure upload size limit in apache [15:43:28] !filesize The size of files you can upload to PHP is limited by the upload_max_filesize directive in your php.ini. MediaWiki only limits direct uploads from a URL, this is configured via $wgMaxUploadSize. [15:43:28] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "filesize". [15:43:34] !filesize is The size of files you can upload to PHP is limited by the upload_max_filesize directive in your php.ini. MediaWiki only limits direct uploads from a URL, this is configured via $wgMaxUploadSize. [15:43:34] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: filesize [15:43:44] !uploadsize alias filesize [15:43:44] --mwbot-- Successfully added alias: uploadsize [15:43:50] phew [15:44:22] aaron_big_noob: are you sure you edited the *right* php.ini? [15:45:29] aaron_big_noob: php also has a max_post_size directive. you may need to change that, too [15:45:51] i think apache has such a limit oo, not sure [15:46:26] Duesentrieb: That's a good question. I edited the php.ini file located in /etc/apache2/php5 [15:47:03] that sounds good, though for me (ubuntu), it would be the other way around, that is, /etc/php5/apache2 [15:47:43] Duesentrieb: Really? I'm also using Ubuntu server. Let me double check. I'll brb. [15:48:15] aaron_big_noob: i think phpinfo() will also tell you which php.ini it uses [15:48:17] ok, editing ../includes/specials/SpecialUserlogin.php and adding a few lines in the successfulLogin() function to redirect to the value supplied in returnTo isn't working properly. [15:48:38] If the user has been logged in at some point and logged out (so cookies are on the machine) it works [15:48:48] if the user has never logged in, it doesn't [15:49:43] how do I setup TortoiseSVN for svn+ssh with wikimedia svn? [15:50:03] it asks me for password, but I have key [15:50:08] +pub [15:51:19] HardDisk_WP: http://tortoisesvn.net/ssh_howto [15:51:53] HardDisk_WP: scroll past all the server side stuff [15:52:02] afaik, it only works via a putty tunnel. [15:52:41] This is the change I've made: http://p3m.org/pef/2658 [15:52:46] anyone see any issues with that? [15:54:11] Duesentrieb: You're a genius. Editing the post_max_size fixed my problem! [15:54:52] 03(NEW) Setup rollback group on Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16298 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (mhaitham.shammaa) [15:56:56] 03(mod) Setup rollback group on Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16298 +shell; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [15:57:54] 03siebrand * r43358 10/branches/REL1_13/phase3/languages/ (188 files in 2 dirs): [15:57:54] Localisation updates [15:57:54] * Backport compatible localisations to REL1_13 (3725 new translations, many existing messages changed) [15:57:54] * Updated local names for a few languages [16:01:46] Duesentrieb, works :) [16:02:01] Duesentrieb, do you know if I can remove the passphrase from an existing privkey? [16:02:27] you should never have an unencoded priv key sitting around [16:02:38] yes you have to enter your passphrase all the time. that's the idea. [16:03:08] someone is able to help with images parameters ? [16:04:18] 03(mod) Setup rollback group on Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16298 (10mhaitham.shammaa) [16:05:04] 03mkroetzsch * r43359 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DataValueFactory.php: typo [16:07:02] buh >.< [16:15:16] hi [16:15:20] Hey all, has anyone upgraded to 1.14Alpha yet? [16:15:30] ppl i have a question [16:15:38] i'm from uz.wiki and we've decided there that users must not have ability creating articles w/o logging in [16:15:51] what should we do to implement it? [16:16:26] ask on bugzilla [16:16:42] ok, thanx [16:16:49] but you must provide that ther'es support for it [16:16:53] it's a big change [16:17:03] yeah, i understand [16:17:23] wouldn't requesting a captcha for page creation be enough? [16:17:53] or maybe like french wp? in fr.wiki anonymous can't edit unless previewing the page [16:18:06] abdullais4u, that's easier to do [16:18:10] it's just a javascript xD [16:18:13] captcha? hmm, that's a good idea too [16:18:15] no config changes [16:18:42] you mean, like french did? [16:20:33] 03jojo * r43360 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (4 files in 3 dirs): improved texts, used saner HTML-layout on Special:Collecton page [16:20:39] abdullais4u, yes [16:20:44] the French did it with javascript [16:21:00] i see [16:21:07] 03harddisk * r43361 10/trunk/tools/alertbot/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [16:21:07] Initial import of the SMS notifier bot. Documentation will come soon, same for an example settings file. [16:21:07] Thanks to werdnus, atglenn and timstarling for help and ideas, as well as brion for giving me svn access :) [16:21:19] Platonides, thank you again [16:21:33] HardDisk_WP, you're testing your new access :) [16:21:42] no problem, abdullais4u [16:21:53] Platonides, yeah xD [16:22:31] Now we can also bug you xD [16:22:48] yeah ^^ [16:30:45] is anyone using the breadcrumbs2 extension? [16:32:36] 03(FIXED) Typo in SMW_SpecialSearchByProperty.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16291 (10markus) [16:32:39] 03mkroetzsch * r43362 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/SearchTriple/SMW_SpecialSearchByProperty.php: Typo (Bug 16291) [16:35:54] 03mkroetzsch * r43363 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_Outputs.php: basic CSS styles are added for all media, not just screen/projection (Bug 15982) [16:35:54] 03(FIXED) Styles ignored during printout - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15982 (10markus) [16:36:06] 03jojo * r43364 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.templates.php: deleted duplicate code [16:42:34] hey folks - is there a super-simple way to do a hanging indent? particuarly in a bullet list? (i use pmwiki a lot, which supports '* blah\\This text will be indented.' [16:42:48] i see a '{{Hanging indent}}' template, but that seems cumbersome. [16:43:02] hm. in my section at http://libxml2wiki.dose.se/The_libxml2_Library#Installing , how can i make the last paragraph "That's it....et.c" appear on the same indentation level as the section title ("Installing")? [16:43:17] as it is now, it appears under the "Windows" section. [16:43:29] eidolon: : at the beginning of a line causes an indent,
does something similar but not really [16:43:44] 03(mod) Links and emails in Semantic Template Fields - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16233 (10markus) [16:43:52] that might not be a bad idea. [16:44:24] blockquote has a lot of other baggage apaprently (like wide margins above and below) [16:44:55] *eidolon searches [16:45:01] 03jojo * r43365 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/collection/collection.js: removed debug-code [16:45:07] hmm, maybe : [16:50:33] 03(FIXED) Undelete of page that has been deleted to make way for a move. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16255 +comment (10markus) [16:53:11] anyone have an idea about my problem? how can i "break out" of a section to make the paragraph appear under the parent? [16:57:13] how can i create a template, which displays if there was any change since anybody changed something in the article at the template call? [16:58:43] the template should display an smal information box, which displays informations for some persons when the last changes are noticed from that group. so when they noticed all the changes they can edit the template call again and the box will show no further changes since date xxxx [16:59:08] 03(mod) Strange random problems with the parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13553 (10martin.groenemeyer) [17:01:21] 03harddisk * r43366 10/trunk/tools/alertbot/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [17:01:21] - added license, documentation and a config template for the IRC bot [17:01:21] - changed alertbot.php license to GPLv2 or later [17:02:02] no ideas? i think i saw such a template once at MW, but dont know what the name was :-/ [17:03:37] Danwe, look at the magic words [17:03:46] Duesentrieb, for what do the three buttons at the top of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/43361 serve? [17:03:47] !magic words [17:03:47] --mwbot-- For more information about creating magic words and their inner workings, see . For a list of magic words, please see . [17:04:21] estan: looks the same indentation to me [17:04:42] HardDisk_WP: no idea, i havn't ever used this. [17:04:46] Danwe, do a comparison with {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} [17:04:51] HardDisk_WP: code review is brion's and tim's job :) [17:05:10] ^^ [17:05:12] probably they only work for them [17:05:25] *HardDisk_WP doesn't want do have anything to do with that [17:05:37] HardDisk_WP: well, the buttons are also at the bottom. below a comment box, they kind of make sense [17:07:02] estan: http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7233/indentationmb6.gif and http://p.defau.lt/?KZr_wjQLXN8V95n3kKWzug ... what do you see? does it change if you're logged out? [17:11:13] Yea, i also thought {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} could be helpful. but should the user every time he edit the template call insert the actual timestamp?? [17:16:37] Question, I access my wiki through https but viewing the inline included JavaScript source shows wgserver is using a non-https URL (this is at least causing "may not load data" errors for me with the FCKeditor module) [17:18:26] Brucevdk: if you're using some sort of proxy to do the SSL you might have to set $wgServer manually, if it can't autodetect the connection type [17:18:54] oh brion is back :) [17:19:24] brion: afaik I'm not using a proxy at all, but I don't think I quite know what "using [...] proxy to _do SSL_" means [17:19:44] what do I write after $wgImageLimits ? 600px ? [17:20:11] platonides: perhaps I should let the user use his signiature and then compare the generated date from the signiature with the {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} ?? Then he only has to change the signiature every time he changes the template call... [17:20:55] the signature doesn't provide the time in TIMESTAMP format [17:21:05] Ceridwen: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgImageLimits [17:21:16] yes. but the year, day and hour I thing [17:21:18] think [17:21:34] I think you'd need to have them use {{subst:CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} [17:22:08] or should he copy the timestamp into the text? that would be much more circuitous [17:22:13] Brucevdk: well for example, our SSL interface is done via a proxy. secure.wikimedia.org runs Apache 2 with an SSL interface, which proxies requests to our backend web servers running regular HTTP internally. [17:22:19] The ?action=history is not cached, correct? [17:22:36] hello [17:22:46] hi Nikerabbit [17:23:03] when he uses {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}, too, there would be a match every time because its variable value [17:23:13] thks I'm looking to this page [17:23:53] HardDisk_WP: client or server? [17:24:07] Splarka, server [17:24:13] brion: so internally there's regular HTTP traffic and externally one communicaties via SSL? Ok, well that's not being done here. $_SERVER['HTTPS'] seems to be set to false or something. [17:24:46] 03siebrand * r43367 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/languages/ (190 files in 2 dirs): [17:24:46] Localisation updates [17:24:46] * Backport compatible localisations to REL1_12 (5266 new translations, many existing messages changed) [17:24:46] * Updated local names for a few languages [17:24:53] 03(FIXED) Arrange the metadata (Exif) table into categories and make trivial parts of it collapsable with JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2111 +comment (10brion) [17:25:02] Brucevdk: maybe your server's just funny, dunno [17:25:04] HardDisk_WP: well, every history page I've seen shows typically stuff like Cache-Control: private, s-maxage=0, max-age=0, must-revalidate [17:25:14] so not client/squid level, but maybe memcache? [17:25:20] perfect ! [17:25:46] 03rotem * r43368 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.i18n.php: Localization update for he, and HTML fix. [17:25:58] I've never seen a history page be outdated from an edit or log entry, but I have seen odd things (in the dim past) after things like delete/partial_undelete/move/undelete, that wasn't purged until a Pragma no-cache is sent [17:26:21] ok [17:26:26] (hard to do action=history&action=purge X_X) [17:26:33] brion: well setting $wgServer manually works just fine ;) I'll try and figure out what could be wrong for a few more minutes [17:27:05] ok, signiature also prints the time, so i will use regex functions and/or stringfunctions to generate a timestamp code from the signiature :-) Think thats the easiest way for the user. [17:27:28] Danwe: ~~~ = nick, ~~~~ = nick/time, ~~~~~ = just time, btw [17:27:49] Danwe, make them use {{subst:REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} [17:27:58] and compare with {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} [17:28:17] I don't think {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} is available at subst time [17:28:20] oh thank you, both! very nice [17:29:02] Splarka, why not? [17:29:03] The revision id might not be [17:29:05] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Undeleting_images [17:29:09] but the timestamp won't change... [17:29:15] Splarka, on includes/Exif.php the ?> in the last line is missing...am I allowed to attach it or is it intentional? [17:29:22] so it's normal I can't delete images with the last version ? [17:29:24] per default ? [17:30:26] HardDisk_WP: http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9282/vennsy7.jpg [17:30:31] i tried it, subst works with revisiontimestamp [17:30:50] I forget that there is something like subst, never used it before [17:31:11] Platonides: ahh, I guess it does work now, but didn't used to, hmm [17:32:06] Splarka, how can I enabled deleting images ? [17:32:06] {{subst:CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} and {{subst:REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} appear to do the same thing then [17:32:14] If a wiki is set to RTL, is there anyone one can set it to LTR only for themselves? [17:32:15] -d [17:32:50] Ceridwen: how do you mean? are your images undeletable? [17:33:06] ahh, maybe you're looking at the wrong place [17:33:15] yes they are [17:33:17] to delete _all_ versions of an image, delete it like a normal page [17:33:22] I can't delete old pictures [17:33:25] action=delete [17:33:52] ok, for the love of god [17:33:54] http://76.94.125.97/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [17:34:08] Impossible de cr�er le dossier � deleted/k/t/i �. [17:34:10] where is that coming from? and how to i fix it? ;_; [17:34:30] he saids he can't create this file and not delete [17:34:32] ahh [17:34:45] write permission error in your deleted path [17:34:46] file/direction [17:35:00] so what can I do ? [17:35:11] make it writable? heh [17:35:15] lol [17:35:18] how XD [17:35:28] or maybe disable storage of deleted files [17:35:34] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgFileStore [17:35:36] mmmh why not [17:35:47] don't need it [17:35:54] actuall, might not be possible anymore [17:36:07] nanny code [17:36:21] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSaveDeletedFiles [17:36:31] > This setting was removed in MediaWiki 1.11.0 as the option is now enabled unconditionally. [17:36:32] I add $wgSaveDeletedFiles = false; in localsettings ? [17:36:43] well, if you have version 1.11+ you can't [17:36:49] 1.13 [17:36:51] the last [17:36:57] then you can't [17:37:05] 03(NEW) Recursion depth in SMWResultPrinter as configuration parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16299 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (for_amby) [17:37:07] Splarka, lool [17:37:11] so what is the solution ? [17:37:48] make $wgUploadDirectory/deleted writable! or something [17:38:20] what do you have $wgFileStore (array) set to? [17:38:21] yes but, I'm a bit stupid, how ? XD [17:39:15] $wgFileStore = array(); [17:39:16] $wgFileStore['deleted']['directory'] = false;///< Defaults to $wgUploadDirectory/deleted [17:39:16] $wgFileStore['deleted']['url'] = null; ///< Private [17:39:16] $wgFileStore['deleted']['hash'] = 3; ///< 3-level subdirectory split [17:39:37] er, so the default [17:40:25] is $wgUploadDirectory = false; ? [17:40:28] Splarka: any ideas? [17:41:08] $wgUploadDirectory = false; ///< defaults to "{$IP}/images" [17:41:52] so... yes it is [17:42:03] Charitwo: there was some discussion recently about a URI parameter [17:42:13] you can do it with javascript too... [17:42:31] (you can do anything with javascript) [17:42:32] ^_^ [17:43:13] (sorry, some problems with cooking "configuration") [17:43:37] basically you do 3 things, Charitwo: [17:43:40] * document.getElementsByTagName('html')[0].setAttribute('dir','ltr') [17:44:08] * replace 'rtl' in body class with 'ltr'... [17:44:14] (the painfull life of housewives, cooking and coding at the same time XD) [17:44:16] * remove stylepath + '/' + skin + '/rtl.css' [17:44:34] Ceridwen: not sure, are you able to upload? [17:44:46] does /images/deleted exist? [17:44:51] upload yes it's ok [17:44:56] I activated it yesterday [17:45:05] I created it manually i think [17:45:12] what OS? [17:45:17] ouch ! [17:45:19] XP [17:45:20] ^^' [17:45:33] Ceridwen \o/ [17:45:42] with sound bugs XD [17:45:52] :x DarkoNeko [17:46:59] Ceridwen: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Image_Administration#Cannot_delete_images_as_Admin [17:47:08] but I dunno under XP [17:47:14] nabend [17:47:28] english only? [17:47:35] ok, DarkoNeko'll help me ^^ [17:47:50] err... is that so ? :o [17:48:03] Wachert no, frenchies too [17:48:09] DarkoNeko > uep [17:49:24] Ceridwen, ya des gens qui m'emmerdent sur ma page de discussion [17:49:35] cant find a germ,an chan ^^ [17:49:39] so what [17:49:41] Brucevdk: is your web server apache or something else? [17:49:49] might be that it just sets environment vars differently [17:50:08] Ceridwen so, kerid, what's the matter [17:50:13] im searchin for a away to edit the imprint link in the footer... i found where i can set up which links are shown but i want that the imprint link, links to a extern site [17:50:33] DarkoNeko > bouffe leur les fesses [17:50:34] 03siebrand * r43369 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.i18n.php: article -> wiki page [17:50:50] mon pblme c que je peux pas suppr des images [17:50:58] et que je capte rien aux explications en anglais [17:51:08] � part quand on me dit : colle ca l� [17:51:23] Ceridwen c'est pour ça que je te disait la derniere fois de verifier des trucs sur les iamges, genre l'upload d'une nouvelle version, etc [17:51:28] mais tu m'a envoyé chier, rappelle toi :) [17:51:36] l'up d'une nouvelle version ca marche [17:51:38] ca j'ai text� [17:51:41] sauf pour le gif [17:51:49] t'as un dossier /deleted/ dans ton repertoire images ? [17:51:51] du coup j'ai voulu up une nouvelle version [17:51:54] et l'ancienne est pas partie [17:51:55] Ceridwen: I guess just make sure /images/deleted has the same permissions as /images (and exists) [17:52:00] ou j'l'ai cr�� � la main [17:52:43] Splarka it's windows xp [17:52:55] c'est problematique si tu dois les creer à la main :( [17:53:16] Dark: yes, so it sucks, and I have no idea how to fix it except to delete windows XP ^_^ [17:53:23] bah y manquait 3 bricoles sur la version que j'ai t�l�charg� j'les ai rajout�es � la main [17:53:37] Splarka > I'm thinking about this [17:53:39] han la galerienne... [17:53:51] bah c'�tait pas dans le .tg ! [17:53:55] alors tg ! [17:53:55] et tyu t'étonnes que rien marche apres :) [17:53:56] XD [17:54:00] oki, je me tait [17:54:03] bon courage pour ton debug :) [17:54:06] je rigoooooooooooleeeeeeeeuh [17:54:11] ++ ^^ [17:54:14] 'tin minou tapadumour [17:54:21] c jour impair ? [17:54:27] ah bah nan pourtant [17:56:46] im searchin for a away to edit the imprint link in the footer... i found where i can set up which links are shown but i want that the imprint link, links to a extern site [18:00:37] got it ^^ dirty but works [18:02:15] what is "a 777 chmod" ??? O_o [18:02:36] 03(mod) Page move without creating a redirect requires a different success message . - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16128 (10mikelifeguard) [18:02:48] Ceridwen, alors ça marche ? [18:02:57] j'avance [18:03:03] Ceridwen: that's for nixxy machines [18:03:07] j'essaie de r�soudre mon pblme de pages qui se suppriment pas [18:03:22] enfin les images [18:03:28] 03(FIXED) special properties appear in Special: UnusedProperties although used - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12886 +comment (10markus) [18:03:33] pages qui se suppriment pas ? kesako ? [18:03:43] yannf > pour les galeries http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Image:Kano_Eitoku_3.jpg [18:03:49] http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Arch%C3%A9ologie_I [18:03:54] http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Cat%C3%A9gorie:Illustrations [18:04:05] en fait c'�tait une image trop grosse qui faisait bugger la cat�gorie [18:04:33] c'est logique et rassurant [18:04:55] pour le delete Erreur lors de la suppression du fichier : Impossible de cr�er le dossier � deleted/k/t/i �. [18:06:05] probablement un problème de droits d'accès [18:06:16] 03(FIXED) code vs manual inconsistency - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16261 +comment (10markus) [18:06:53] chui all�e voir l� http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgFileStore [18:06:54] 03rotem * r43370 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.i18n.php: Localization fix for he. [18:06:57] mais je comprends rien XD [18:07:25] Wachert: you want a less hacky solution? [18:08:00] Ceridwen, tu veux faire quoi ? [18:08:02] how can I create a MW diff HTML page from two files? [18:08:14] off topic I guess... [18:08:18] supprimer ca http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Image:Furoshiki.gif [18:08:24] i just took out the links in the php script and added "li a" by myself behind it [18:08:43] not the best solution but works [18:08:59] 03(NEW) Redirect for talk page created when moving a page without leaving a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16300 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mikelifeguard) [18:09:01] Ceridwen, pas besoin de modifier $wgFileStore pour ça, juste besoin d'être admin [18:09:04] Wachert: you can't put an external link into [[MediaWiki:Disclaimerpage]] but you can put an interwiki link into it. So for example if you add an interwiki like [[disclaimer:]] and link it to http://some.other.web.site/$1 [18:09:25] you can put "disclaimer:foo" into MediaWiki:Disclaimerpage and it will link to http://some.other.web.site/foo [18:09:27] chui pas admin par d�fault ? [18:09:32] -l [18:09:50] Ceridwen, non [18:09:57] ah... [18:10:01] comment se fesse ! [18:10:22] Splarka hm to difficult... the it is easier to edit the skinfile ;) [18:10:24] faceface: you mean, you want to use the same pretty diff engine output as mediawiki uses, for a file compare? [18:10:28] we just use one skin [18:10:30] et comment je m'adminise ? [18:10:33] Splarka, something like that [18:10:40] Wachert: makes it harder to upgrade later! heh see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interwiki anyways [18:10:58] I want to format diffs nicely for the user to decide weather or not to apply a certain diff [18:11:00] (even if you don't use it, interwiki links are a handy feature) [18:11:18] Splarka the settings for the footer are made in the skinfile what will not be overwritten by a upgrade ;) [18:11:46] ahh k [18:11:50] Ceridwen, normalement tu as un compte par défaut Wikisysop [18:11:55] still hacky [18:12:04] but ill try your method too ;) [18:12:10] et c pas admin ? [18:12:12] yay [18:12:16] à moins que ça ait changé [18:12:43] Wikisysop a tous les droits : admin, 'crate, etc. [18:13:05] c'est comme ça sur mon wiki [18:13:06] ben donc c bon [18:13:10] non ? [18:13:36] hm... where can i set up that only registered users can edit or create pages Splarka? [18:14:14] Ceridwen, tu es bien admin http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:Liste_des_utilisateurs [18:14:40] alors spa ca [18:14:43] Wachert: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights [18:14:48] thx [18:15:12] damn no german version avaible xD [18:15:32] well [18:15:46] $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['edit'] = true; [18:15:46] $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createpage'] = true; [18:15:46] $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['createtalk'] = true; [18:15:52] set those to false in your LocalSettings.php [18:16:08] Ceridwen, pour ce message d'erreur, il faut que tu donnes plus de droits : Impossible de créer le dossier « deleted/k/t/i ». [18:16:11] like me ! [18:16:20] * means anyone? [18:16:21] � moi ? [18:16:22] or guests? [18:16:24] au répertoire deleted [18:16:31] ah [18:16:32] Wachert: it means anyone [18:16:35] comment ? ^^' [18:16:40] so you must then give [18:16:46] 'user' the same rights = true; [18:16:52] Ceridwen, avec ton client FTP [18:16:52] although they have that by default [18:17:06] ah ;) k [18:17:06] u� mais dans quel fichier � quel endroit je mets quoi ? [18:17:15] admins and sysops and so on are users too right? [18:17:30] so i must not give them the rights too [18:17:43] no, they are 'user' implicitly [18:17:44] mediawiki ca pousse au tabagisme XD [18:17:46] Ceridwen, trouve ce répertoire "deleted" et donne lui tous les droits [18:17:46] by virtue of being logged in [18:17:54] euh comment ? [18:18:00] hello, has anyone successfully upgraded their wiki to support the 1.14alpha release? [18:18:06] k [18:18:09] thx [18:18:21] 03(mod) Redirect for talk page created when moving a page without leaving a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16300 (10thogol) [18:18:24] JMcIvor: wikimedia has ^_^ [18:18:35] :P [18:18:51] Ceridwen, pm [18:19:01] vuep [18:19:10] Splarka like jokes ^^ [18:19:46] hey, it is the truth! heh [18:20:15] but ask br*on how "easy" it is, even when done incrementally and with a dozen developers helping him [18:20:17] as far as you know MediaWiki is the only one to support 1.14? [18:20:50] I've been asked to do it by myself, haha [18:20:56] JMcIvor: the only major one, probably [18:21:25] I am sure there are (some big ass number) of personal installs running 1.14 [18:22:00] which php does the diffing? [18:22:03] is the .tar file available for download yet? I wawsn [18:22:06] wasn't able to find it [18:22:10] (and is it ready made to take files?) :D [18:23:16] faceface: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExternalDiffEngine [18:23:39] I think sensible people use the external ones, being several orders of magnitude faster [18:23:54] Splarka, the issue is rendering the output nicely [18:23:56] * (true if you're using base 2 instead of base 10) [18:24:27] JMcIvor, there's no release yet [18:24:31] wikimedia works from svn [18:25:08] faceface, well see /includes/diff/DifferenceEngine.php then [18:25:11] right, thanks Platonides [18:25:16] ty Splarka [18:37:32] Nabend [18:38:20] ich habe da mal eine frage. [18:39:19] wenn ich in mediawiki eine kategorie erstelle und danach einige seiten erstelle wo oben der hinweis zur kategorie drin ist, wird doch in der kategorie�bersicht die seiten alphabetisch geordnet angezeigt [18:39:26] allerdings immer nur 200 [18:39:40] wie kann ich den wert 200 nach oben setzene [18:43:32] werdna, ping [18:43:58] is there a way from a hook callback to check if the current user has edit permissions? [18:44:14] 12?14�12? 12?14�12? 12?14�12? [18:44:18] werdan7, when I use ur ref tool for "addWikimsg", and have the function, then there is a ref to addWikiMsgArray, but this one is not in the list [18:44:39] *werdan7 steals HardDisk_WP's tab key [18:44:54] oh^^ sry, meant werdna [18:45:03] hehe, np :) [18:45:52] 03(mod) Special:Randomredirect: no way offered to pick what namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11027 +comment (10marco) [18:46:04] hey experts, I have got a CSS question: At the German wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite) all the blocks have a light blue background at the heading e.g. "Willkommen bei Wikipedia" or "Wikipedia aktuell" . when using the monobook skin, which setting do I have to edit to make this red? [18:47:39] body.page-Wikipedia_Hauptseite [18:49:26] @HardDisk_WP: which file? /skins/monobook/main.css? (I'm using version 1.14a if this is important) [18:49:37] 03(FIXED) SMWRSSResultPrinter ignores query order when date is used - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14097 +comment (10markus) [18:49:41] 03mkroetzsch * r43371 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_QP_RSSlink.php SMW_QueryProcessor.php): do not overwrite given order for RSS, make DESC the default in query creation instead, fixes Bug 14097. [18:50:42] Mazi: [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] on the site (a page, not a file) [18:50:43] anyone know how to check if the current user has edit perms from LocalSettings.php? [18:51:44] check the perms array [18:52:21] HardDisk_WP: yea, but how can i get the currently user? (or check if it's anonymous) [18:52:28] *current. [18:53:02] oh, no idea about this, sorry [18:53:09] or wait, i didn't mean from LocalSettings.php, but from an extension script.. but i guess it's the same. [18:54:56] hm.. i found public function quickUserCan( $action ) in Title.php.. should be able to figure this out i think.. [18:54:57] hello [18:55:04] i have a question [18:55:49] i need a extension [18:56:15] for see who is online on se wikiscript (guests or regg users) [18:58:47] Platonides, around? [19:07:52] I can't find any "body.page-Wikipedia_Hauptseite" within the Mediawiki:monobook.css source code? [19:09:27] is there any way to check (perhaps macig words) if the last revisions are only smal changes or bigger ones? (checkbox for only smal changes when editing an article) [19:10:10] k, got it working. Thanks everyone! [19:10:18] Mazi: see http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css and http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css for whatever they're doing to their main page [19:10:45] thanks, Splarka! [19:10:46] they're using a combination if classes, IDs, inline styles, and sitewide styles [19:10:52] it isn't simply a "flip a switch and make headings blue" [19:10:57] ^of [19:11:19] yeah, not that easy to find the correct "switch". [19:11:34] in Common.css see #hauptseite h2 {} [19:11:44] that is where the blue color is being applied [19:11:54] thanks once more! have a nice evening/afternoon/day/night everyone [19:12:10] that means, all

inside an object with id=hauptseite [19:15:23] //h2[id=hauptseite] [19:16:00] Mazi|away: just a tip for the future, you could have found out quite easily using Firebug [19:17:13] Splarka: so uh... it was simply a case of "flip a switch" right? ;-) [19:20:16] Brucevdk: not really [19:20:36] it required either wrapping them in the appropriate identifying div, or using page-specific as HardDisk_WP said [19:21:17] as well as using other associated styles for the nice merging effect with the sibling blocks [19:22:01] 03(NEW) Image and its thumbnail are different - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16301 major; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [19:22:12] Splarka: well... you're no fun [19:25:35] 03(mod) Several problems with styles for thumbnails (thumb) in PageCSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16272 major->normal; normal->high; +easy (10STyx) [19:26:17] Brucevdk: http://www.execnet.net/users/alan/blogs/archives/llbm/men_women_control_switches.jpg [19:26:37] is it possible to get these api informations somehow in "inline querys" in mediawiki?? [19:26:39] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query_-_Properties [19:29:13] 03(mod) Image and its thumbnail are different - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16301 (10mikelifeguard) [19:32:50] 03mkroetzsch * r43372 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: define SMW_DAY (missing constant for date processing) [19:38:15] 03(mod) Improve the new Statistics special page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15664 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [19:46:08] I can't find where I changed my background image.. Did a 'grep' through the skin and came out empty... [19:46:16] 03(mod) Improve the new Statistics special page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15664 (10mikelifeguard) [19:46:19] Duesentrieb, 'round? [19:50:42] mboman: on-site? Special:Monobook.css or Common.css for example [19:50:45] er [19:50:56] MediaWiki:Monobook.css / Common.css [19:50:57] [19:52:34] I'm using OutputPageBeforeHTML Hook (for some reasons.. )and I don't know how can I get the user-pageName-Hour-(others if posible).. (I haven't got many skills in php, but I need to do this as part of other project..) [19:53:05] i need to know these variables [19:55:18] Splarka: thanks [19:55:35] 03(NEW) Inaccurate links from old versions of articles on secure. wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16302 minor; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (tim.ivorson) [19:59:28] nobody knows how to get the variables at this moment? [19:59:49] 03harddisk * r43373 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialRandompage.php): fix bug 11027: Add parameter to MW:Randompage-nopages so that user can see the namespace. [20:00:31] 03(FIXED) Special:Randomredirect: no way offered to pick what namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11027 +comment (10marco) [20:18:22] 03(NEW) Add a js variable for global groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16303 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mikelifeguard) [20:20:00] 03(mod) Update to cite.php refs: ids fixed, footnotes, globbed links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16294 +comment (10ncw33) [20:20:07] 03harddisk * r43374 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: forgot to update MessagesEn.php in r43373 to reflect the addition of $1 parameter [20:21:37] FAQ says I need to go to the Special:UserRights to edit groups, but I get an error: http://fpaste.org/paste/75 Any help? [20:22:52] mabye pointed to wrong directory [20:23:05] wiki/includes/special/Specila: [20:23:20] Special* [20:23:29] Haley: let me see [20:24:42] Haley: hum, no.. not working... [20:25:18] hm... how can i create a link to a category? [20:25:22] on a page [20:25:42] is there a page SpecialUserrights.php in that directory? (wiki/includes/specials/) [20:26:46] Wachert2: [[:Category:Foo]] [20:26:48] Wachert2 [[:Categoriy [20:26:51] ;o) [20:26:57] forgot the : ^^ [20:27:02] damn xD [20:27:53] Haley: yes, there is a file called SpecialUserrights.php [20:28:40] duli, hm, you can always try to reinstall, download from svn, and backup mysql [20:28:49] which I cannot directly access due to permission problems [20:28:54] oh [20:28:58] it should be 755 [20:28:59] Haley: hum, but I just installed it [20:29:05] let me check [20:29:31] All the files under specials are 0644.. Should I change them all? [20:29:49] try, to 755 [20:31:14] 03(mod) Manual linking to Special: SearchByProperty difficult due to parameter encoding - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16150 summary; +comment (10markus) [20:31:31] is it able to deactivate the content directory on a page? [20:31:50] users can hide it but i dont want that it is there anyway on special page [20:32:47] haley: no, don't work.... [20:33:17] probably problem with perms, whole wiki directory should be 755, i think... [20:33:27] hum [20:33:50] duli, public to read and execute [20:34:27] is there a good way to put a linked icon into the sidebar? without hacking code. on wikipedia. [20:34:30] that would be nice... [20:34:43] hm... with some css hack it might be passible. possibly. [20:35:26] i mean the table with the id "toc" [20:36:00] Duesentrieb: yes css [20:36:11] create an empty entry in the sidebar like [20:36:17] ** Foo| [20:36:36] find the ID, and then give its a background image and specific width/height [20:36:51] Splarka: hm... sounds reasonable... [20:36:52] Haly, yes, they are like that.. let me do other checking [20:36:59] although if you want more than one, you might need to use ** Foo|Bar where Bar is an empty message [20:37:05] Wachert2, __HIDETOC__ ? [20:37:15] um [20:37:20] __NOTOC__ ;) [20:37:20] Splarka: i wonder if people will like a donation banner right below the search box :) [20:37:27] Dues: ew, heh [20:37:33] just anywhere in the page? [20:37:35] they might [20:37:41] wachert2 yes [20:37:44] Splarka: better than the huge thingy on top, imho. [20:37:58] Duesentrieb: in that case, create its own portlet below the search too [20:38:01] * Foo [20:38:04] ** Foo| [20:38:06] thx :D *kiss* [20:38:10] yess [20:38:22] and of course, style the .portlet, h5, .pBody, ul, li, a [20:38:28] u've spoken about editing the sidebar [20:38:31] where can i edit it? [20:38:35] with probably no border, background, padding, or margin [20:38:43] MediaWiki:Sidebar, just links [20:38:46] adding tables like navigation and links in it [20:38:50] ah thx [20:38:51] xD [20:38:57] im so a noob ^^ [20:39:05] ;o) [20:39:07] working first time whith it ^^ [20:39:10] *with [20:40:56] when i go to MediaWiki:Sidebar i have to create it [20:41:02] will the current navigation be away? [20:45:29] if you delete original content [20:46:03] ah xD [20:46:14] when i create it, the original content is still there *puh* [20:46:30] yes, you can change it or delete [20:47:09] how would one normally access the permissions interface? [20:47:19] is there a function that, given an image name and possibly image size, will return the address of the requested image [20:47:25] for use in a tag function [20:48:11] duli, sidebar, special pages, under users [20:48:41] hm [20:48:48] i added * blabla [20:49:09] Haley, there is not a special pages on the sidebar... Not even logged in as WikiSysop [20:49:14] and ** [[:cat..:blabla|name]] [20:49:26] but i have to delete ]] [20:49:45] when i add ]] at the end, it creats a link like name]] [20:49:55] when i delete ]] theres a clean link [20:49:58] is this normal? [20:50:11] ok, now I got it [20:51:01] Wachert2: * Wikipedia:Help|Help - normal link, without [[]] [20:51:25] hm and why? [20:51:54] nope, one * for heading, and two ** for link [20:52:03] :) [20:52:07] k [20:52:15] but on a page i have to use [[ oder [ [20:52:20] in lists not? [20:52:29] or just not in the sidebar`? [20:52:29] hi, pls is there a standalone function to render wikitext as html pls? [20:52:37] not in sidebar [20:52:46] Wachert2: the sidebar is very special in many ways. read the manual. [20:52:55] k but on pages and on lists in pages i have to use [[ and [ [20:53:01] yes [20:53:17] i searched for editing sidebar ^^ but found nothing [20:53:34] uffiole: full mediawiki code? no. most of the common stuff? yes. [20:53:48] sorry? [20:53:50] Wachert2 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar [20:54:13] ok, i got it Duesentrieb [20:54:14] grml [20:54:19] why i didnt found it [20:54:22] !parsers | uffiole [20:54:22] --mwbot-- uffiole: For alternative parsers, see . A new formalization and parser for mediawiki syntax is being discussed on wikitext-l, see . For an (incomplete) specification of mediawiki syntax, see . [20:54:24] just make brackets to links [20:54:27] to tired maybe ^^ [20:55:53] for usage in extension Duesentrieb [20:56:08] i cant use wgOut [20:58:22] i want to make title, summary etc of issues of IssueTracker extension wikified [20:59:00] and it realizes MVC pattern so i dont want to touch the view htm pages [21:00:15] just call sth like wikify( $this->issue->title ) in the view.html [21:00:19] MZMcBride! [21:01:07] Charitwo! [21:02:49] uffiole: if you have a parser object, you can use $parser->recursiveTagParse [21:04:25] uffiole: *inside* mediawiki, you can of course parse wikitext. "stanalone" to me means *outside* mediawiki. [21:16:12] moooorning [21:38:30] 03(mod) null edit disposes of summary without even any warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11463 +comment (10marco) [22:00:52] morning AaronSchulz [22:01:31] hey [22:22:43] 03huji * r43375 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Adding Persian editbox images [22:34:16] kassoe: hmm? [22:34:35] it's Bjorn [22:34:51] /msg, not dcc :) [22:35:39] forgot the syntax - closed down too soon last time - please tell me again [22:35:57] it's /msg Skizzerz [22:45:54] hey davidmccabe [22:46:02] yo [22:48:25] in an extension (tag extension) is it possible to return a
within an that doesn't encode the < and > ? [22:52:31] Shardsofmetal: invalid xhtml [22:52:46] you can't have a
inside of an [22:53:03] is inline,
is block level [22:53:16] ok, the only reason I did it that way is because I saw it used at http://whylinuxisbetter.net [22:53:29] so how do I have the whole div act as a link? [22:53:35] if you need to do this, you have to make the a block level element, and then make another inside it a block level element, via css or style="" [22:53:41] oh [22:53:45] just make the block level [22:54:00] [22:54:19] then it behaves pretty much like a div (it still can't contain a div though) [22:57:25] [22:58:56] ok, thanks [23:00:27] In wfRunHooks(), why do we have $object = $wgHooks[$event][$index]; instead of just $object = $hook; ? [23:38:15] morning brion [23:38:46] brion: I'm thinking about where to store all of this new configuration data in the database... [23:38:48] morning? o_O [23:38:55] FunPika: it's 10:38am here :) [23:39:13] heyyy [23:39:46] whoa, you guys on daylight saving time now? [23:39:55] used to be you guys weren't awake yet ;) [23:40:15] brion: I wrote the logo setting interface, but currently it stuffs it in memcached, so obviously I need to put it in the DB too. [23:40:18] brion: heh, that's just Tim. [23:40:27] Tim wakes up at like 1pm [23:40:44] We've been on daylight savings since September/October. [23:44:57] :D [23:45:40] what's the Configure extension do -- is it doing a full db table or just rewriting LocalSettings? [23:45:48] if it's a db it might make sense to just use a subset [23:46:08] Configure extension writes it to a serialised PHP file. [23:46:11] eww [23:46:16] I think. [23:46:17] filesystem is for no [23:46:24] well yeah :P [23:46:32] *werdna introduces an NFS hit per pageview. [23:46:37] we should be assuming that shared filesystems are not available to web servers [23:47:07] Yeah, Configure extension has a suspicious looking 'writePHP.php' [23:47:08] probably a basic db table backed by a serialized memcache blob and/or local filesystem blob (like how we cache InitialiseSettings) [23:47:26] Well, I've already written a 'ConfigurationCache' object [23:47:31] \o/ [23:47:35] basically it just stashes all of the configuration in the same memcached blob [23:47:52] that way we don't have to hit memcached once for group rights, once for logo, etc, etc. [23:48:08] right [23:48:38] I was thinking that it would be nice if we did that for message groups. [23:48:45] Like fetching all accesskey-* and tooltip-* at once. [23:49:00] Or maybe even all of the messages that are used on almost all pages at once. [23:49:11] I suppose I could use a general 'configuration' database table, and serialise where necessary -- although it would be nice to actually normalise stuff like namespaces. [23:49:21] (and group rights, which is how I've done it) [23:50:14] 03(NEW) Inline query labels no longer working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16304 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (yaron57) [23:50:41] The obvious thing with this, though, is that the relationship between that and the SiteConfiguration object seems ever so slightly unclear. [23:52:49] how do i create those grey boxes with text inside like i see on other wikis? [23:55:04] maynards-girl: Can you show me an example of what you mean? [23:55:50] *AaronSchulz looks at brion [23:55:53] Probably wikitables. [23:55:57] AaronSchulz! [23:56:00] wazzap [23:56:01] well, time to commit this search stuff [23:57:52] \o/ [23:57:54] let's see it [23:58:18] werdna, on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, there are various boxes with a colored background with text in them