[00:00:18] werdna: i've been thinking we might well want a more general configuration-object-thingy, and this might all become part of a siteconfiguration ... meta... object .... thing with multiple data providers [00:00:30] (eg one from the arrays in InitaliseSettings, another from a db...) [00:01:08] brion: any reason why there is no autofocusing? [00:01:37] AaronSchulz: in Special:Search? there probably should be if you go there blank [00:01:53] (if you go with a search term, then you want to scroll yours results with the keyboard, so you shouldn't autofocus) [00:02:05] least that's how google handles it and i like them :D [00:02:28] yeah, I was comparing to google and such [00:02:56] brion: Yeah, that would be pretty cool. We could have database, InitialiseSettings and global data sources. I could replace all of the calls to configuration globals with $wgConf->get( 'wgLogo' ) etc. [00:03:56] 03aaron * r43376 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed) [00:04:33] * Recommitting Search UI changes from r42352 [00:04:33] ** User search preference removed [00:04:33] ** Added Project search [00:04:33] ** Removed 'all' prefix use [00:04:34] ** Keep help/page link in same fieldset [00:04:34] this would need some backtracking in my RightsManager work, though, as it's built on the assumption of separate configuration and database sources for user rights [00:04:35] ** Fixed title case of direct page/create link [00:04:58] maynards-girl: they're tables. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables [00:06:04] werdna, thanks [00:13:34] *Simetrical considers going through RfA again on enwiki [00:13:46] teehee. [00:13:50] I blindsided them in February. [00:14:06] werdna: let's not go crazy with the "replace all globals" just yet :) [00:14:16] brion: boring! [00:14:20] but it'd be nice to be able to query a config object fairly consistently [00:14:31] Okay, so you [00:15:09] *Simetrical decides not to bother, too much of a headache [00:16:34] Okay, so you'd like a configuration object that takes setting names (something like 'wgLogo'?), and gives you back the value of the setting, from memcached, database, initialisesettings, or the global, in that order of precedence (complete, of course, with functionality to set the settings, too) [00:17:04] and then you'd like me to replace usage of $wgLogo with a call to that. [00:17:23] werdna: the first part, but then we keep using $wgLogo for now ;) [00:17:47] brion: it's all in a branch at the moment anyway.. [00:17:59] so during wiki setup it reads out all the values for this wiki and pumps them into the globals (as we do with SiteConfiguration now) [00:18:06] *AaronSchulz heard that wal-mart has decent $300 laptops [00:18:07] oh, I see. [00:18:15] and also we should make it a little easier to pull an object for another wiki, to check the other wiki's settings [00:18:41] mmm [00:19:11] AaronSchulz: is it as cute as my http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop-inspiron-9 ? [00:20:13] brion, tee-hee, that does look cute. [00:20:31] brion: what would be really fun would be replacing arrays in a random PHP file with a cached DB table, for multi-wiki configurations -- but I should get the base stuff up and running before being too fancy :). [00:20:57] :D [00:21:11] Should I repurpose the existing SiteConfiguration object, or write something new? [00:21:11] hiya, wikipedians! i have a question regarding editing. English Wikipedia's edit feature has a ton of roman/hebrew/cyrillic/greek characters on th ebottom that you can simply click on, and they appear. i don't have that luxury on my mediawiki installation. why is that? [00:21:17] Simetrical: the keyboard is horribly cramped, but still better to type on than an iphone ;) [00:21:24] !charinsert [00:21:24] --mwbot-- CharInsert is an extension that enables the creation of JavaScript links which, when clicked, insert predefined text into the text box. These links are usually used in the "MediaWiki:Edittools" interface message. For more information, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CharInsert >; for example usage, see < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools >. [00:21:24] my mediawiki is located at http://wiki.mobianlegends.com [00:21:28] In wfRunHooks(), why do we have $object = $wgHooks[$event][$index]; instead of just $object = $hook; ? [00:21:34] RingtailedFox: see above [00:21:36] 1024x600 screen is actually fairly roomy for devices of that sort [00:21:54] brion: I'm factoring the invoking of fancy/flexible callback objects out of wfRunHooks. [00:21:55] i have CharInsert installed :) [00:21:59] brion: mmm, I have enough trouble on my laptop running at 1680x1050 [00:22:00] brion: I hope it is [00:22:04] davidmccabe: might be a holdover from php 4 object/reference handling [00:22:15] brion: free to replace it then? [00:22:15] uh, 1400x1050 [00:22:24] werdna: oh i much prefer my dual 1680x1050 configuration for real work ;) [00:22:34] brion: yeah, that's what I'm working on at the moment. [00:22:42] :) [00:22:52] I'm going to be much less productive when I move off to SF and have to work on my laptop :P [00:23:58] you could use one of our spare 20" imacs :) [00:24:27] I've used like 1 mac in my life, but it's better than a 12" screen on my laptop :P [00:25:08] brion: Who has spare imacs? [00:25:31] Can iMacs be used as external displays? [00:27:19] X forwarding ftw [00:28:53] DVI ftw [00:30:15] brion: Do you want SiteConfiguration repurposed, or some new class? [00:33:02] brion, give me one of your spare 20" imacs :P [00:34:10] brion, are they the new ones with glass screens? [00:34:26] :) [00:34:31] no they're the previous model [00:34:46] :< [00:34:58] we've got a couple which circulate through the office, a couple more in regular use [00:35:07] *brion is a fan of matte screens :) [00:35:15] I can't decide which I like better tbh [00:35:25] werdna: it probably makes sense to stick with SiteConfiguration and pretty it up [00:35:29] god, this wfRunHooks is tangled. [00:35:38] I really like the new iMac design though, with the black on the back and such [00:35:50] oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to make a general hookable callback system in php [00:35:51] brion: I was afraid you were going to say that ;) [00:35:59] *brion mwahahaha [00:36:15] hey if you want to do work we pay you for it ain't always going to be pretty [00:36:29] yeah, I know :) [00:36:30] doesn't mean I can't whine about it on company time :P [00:36:35] the new ones look pretty, but i haven't sat at one yet [00:36:35] :D [00:37:39] brion, I have one here at home, but I don't use it much, I'm too accustomed to my ugly little portable iBook [00:37:43] glare sucks [00:37:44] brion: heh, it's still better than flipping burgers for $11/hr [00:37:51] or selling jewellery for $8/hr, like my girlfriend :P [00:37:54] I love how apple's marketing copy says they chose the perfect neutral grey to surround their displays, then they switch it to black. Marketing is BS. [00:37:59] we use the massive ones in psych lab, but the glare actually interferes with the experiments [00:38:07] Mike_lifeguard, =S [00:38:26] they're amazing for looking at medical imaging though :D [00:43:25] empty array is considered false, right? [00:44:21] andrew@gcentral_router:~/mediawiki$ php -r 'var_dump(array() == false);' [00:44:21] PHP Warning: Module 'zip' already loaded in Unknown on line 0 [00:44:21] bool(true) [00:45:32] thanks werdna, didn't know about -r. [00:45:56] *werdna doesn't tell davidmccabe about -R [01:07:58] 03david * r43377 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Hooks.php): Factored wfInvokeFancyCallback() out of wfRunHooks(). Allows flexible dynamic invocation to be used in other contexts. [01:12:27] is it possible to add links along the left and bottom? [01:21:45] RingtailedFox: Yes, see the FAQ. [01:25:20] ok [01:25:53] now, i have installed CharInsert, but i only see the characters on the bottom when editing. i cannot click on them to insert them into the articles i';m editing, like i can on wikipedia. why is this>? [01:27:23] my wiki is located at http://wiki.mobianlegends.com [01:40:51] brion: I named that function wfInvokeFancyCallback(), but what if it was just wfInvoke()? [01:41:34] 03gri6507 * r43378 10/trunk/extensions/WhiteList/ (4 files): [01:41:34] v0.11.2 [01:41:34] * Fixed a bug with granting access to pages with parentheses in the name [01:41:34] * restored the numerous MW comptatibility problems introduced with the previous revision [01:41:34] * Fixed a bug with WikiText vx. Html output methods [01:42:52] brion: having a few problems using stuff like getAll and extractAllGlobals - they seem to depend on $this->settings as the sole source of all variables that are defined. Should I add stub entries to that, so settings from the DB show up, or modify them all to use some other method of listing all settings? [01:43:43] davidmccabe: uhhhh lemme look up wtf that is :D [01:44:36] brion: I just created it. [01:44:45] brion: it's the spun-off core of wfRunHooks. [01:44:59] oh god the pain [01:45:02] the .... pain ... [01:45:08] what? [01:45:12] wfRunHooks :D [01:45:18] agreed. [01:45:40] Surely the dynamic invocation with a flexible interface should be usable elsewhere, since you went to all that effort. [01:45:44] if the inside of a for loop doesn't fit on a 1050px-high screen it's not right [01:45:55] Go back in time and tell yourself that. [01:46:08] srsly [01:46:10] wfInvoke an acceptable name for you? [01:46:30] sure [01:46:31] k [01:46:37] Private global functions have _ prefix or what? [01:46:41] man i seriously wish we'd just said "if call_user_func() can do it that's it" [01:46:47] now we've got backcompat shit [01:46:56] davidmccabe: i don't think we really enforce that much [01:47:30] davidmccabe: can you help me? [01:48:42] RingtailedFox: No, sorry. You're probably missing an extension. [01:48:47] Read the docs for CharInsert if you haven't. [01:49:19] werdna: probably would want like a getAllSettings() method? [01:49:31] brion: that already exists. [01:49:39] i did read them [01:49:40] brion: oh wait, I know what you mean [01:49:51] 03david * r43379 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Hooks.php): Renamed the new wfInvokeFancyCallback to simply wfInvoke. [01:50:04] brion: so it merges array_keys( $this->settings ) and select unique conf_name [01:50:20] mrrrrrrrf k [01:50:30] as well, i want to have the button that allows me to insert wikitables. wikipedia has it, but mine does not. [01:50:33] what does that mean? :P [01:50:45] RingtailedFox: you'll need to copy MediaWiki:EditTools from enwiki onto your wiki [01:50:50] then i guess you should... use that? [01:51:07] RingtailedFox: (enwiki is en.wikipedia.org) [01:51:09] i did that [01:51:25] Who actually wrote enotif anyway? [01:51:28] brion: Well no, it doesn't exist. I thought you were talking about getAll, but yeah, I'll do that. [01:51:45] what next? [01:51:56] well, does it work? [01:52:26] davidmccabe isn't using our whitespace conventions! Lynch him! Lynch him! [01:52:53] Your conventions are all broken, m**********s. [01:53:05] davidmccabe: if you're busy, i can come back later [01:53:08] or ask someone else [01:53:23] RingtailedFox: Somebody will come by that can help you sooner or later. [01:53:26] I'm about to leave myself. [01:53:31] ok [01:53:36] RingtailedFox: But Google is your best friend. [01:53:42] can you help me, werdna? [01:53:48] it would be, but i don't know what to look for [01:54:09] *brion waves at hcatlin [01:54:24] RingtailedFox: I can't really help you except to answer straight-up questions. Brion has me working on some stuff :) [01:54:30] ok [01:54:36] davidmccabe: original enotif code was by....... i'm totally blanking on his name [01:54:37] german dude [01:54:41] name should be in the credits somewhere [01:54:48] bits of it have been rewritten at times, but it could use some cleanup [01:54:52] avar? [01:54:57] no [01:55:02] Lee? [01:55:08] brion: it has YOUR name on it dude :P [01:55:36] hey i'm used to gettin blamed ;) [01:55:44] svn blame brion [01:55:46] werdna: avar's icelandic and lee's american, so no :) [01:56:15] *werdna goes away, not knowing his proper MediaWiki history. [01:56:38] aww [01:56:45] tom gries! that was it [01:56:57] ain't seen him much in a while [01:57:02] Don't I have to do a written exam on it when I come into the office? [01:57:17] it's like the us citizenship tests [01:57:26] we have an Australian one. [01:57:43] "Do you have a job and are you not from southeast Asia?" [01:57:49] It's been parodied by numerous comedians, who contend that it should include laziness, alcoholism. [02:08:37] brion: incidentally, did you see my post to wikitech-l? [02:08:55] I made this cool little ajax widget that lets you search for MW functions. [02:09:02] werdna: neat! [02:09:11] i'm a little behind on lists, i'll read it shortly :D [02:09:12] http://mwref.werdn.us/ [02:09:18] okie :) [02:11:34] Hmm, is there a way to make my object do some stuff on shutdown BEFORE memcached goes away? [02:11:40] I want it to save its state on-shutdown. [02:13:14] hey brion! [02:13:14] :) [02:13:59] *brion howdy [02:14:31] holy fuckshit werdna, that's the coolest thing evar [02:14:44] brion: :D [02:14:53] now if i could make bbedit's search that fast... i would be a happy man [02:14:55] and more productive [02:15:15] doesn't handle multi-line function definitions yet, and I'd like it to give a file/line reference [02:15:21] but yeah, not bad for 2 hours' work :) [02:15:42] now, integrate it with CodeReview and svn blame! ;) [02:15:53] I can't tell if you're joking or not. [02:16:13] i'm not sure either [02:16:18] that would be pretty awesome! ;) [02:16:35] I'm not entirely sure what kind of integration you want :p [02:17:11] spose I could run a git blame over the whole directory and have the parser take notice. [02:17:32] revisions could be turned into CodeReview links [02:17:38] sounds quite workable actually :) [02:20:01] "I'm not sure either" :DD [02:21:07] hehe [02:22:51] Warning: htmlspecialchars() expects parameter 1 to be string, object given in /home/andrew/mediawiki/includes/Sanitizer.php on line 724
[02:22:54] sigh [02:22:55] what throws that? [02:23:02] openoffice dictionary file update references http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reforms_of_French_orthography :D [02:23:29] encodeAttribute, hmm [02:24:15] ah, never mind :) [02:29:39] hey hoping if someone could figure this out... [02:29:49] this is the actual wiki page http://asianmediawiki.com/Mr._Tadano%27s_Secret_Mission_%E2%80%93_From_Japan_With_Love [02:30:13] if i click that movie page link from an actors page like http://asianmediawiki.com/Katsunori_Takahashi or http://asianmediawiki.com/Atsuko_Sakurai [02:30:34] it goes to the edit page not the actual page (Mr. Tadano's Secret Mission � From Japan With Love) [02:31:03] but from the main page (http://asianmediawiki.com/Main_Page) under "December 6" if you click the link it goes to the correct page... [02:31:08] the links are all the same [02:31:14] anybody would know why this happens? [02:35:03] dammit. [02:35:10] Simetrical: around? :) [02:35:19] werdna, theoretically not. [02:35:26] *werdna leaves alone. [02:35:28] plus I just had an idea. [02:37:43] sweet! [02:37:48] I just got logo up-setting done. [02:48:53] "ardrigh" looks like the kind of sound one makes while committing Seppuku [02:50:15] or while being drowned by excess flood [02:52:23] anyone here? [02:58:27] RingtailedFox: Yes. Please ask your question; someone will answer if they can. [02:59:32] well, i see that wikipedia has a TON of options available when editing, such as buttons along th etop for wikitables, superscript/subscript... yet, my wiki installation does not. it also has all sorts of languages you can insert characters in (via a pull-down below the editing section, and you can click on the chraacter to insert). how do i add these functionalities to my wiki? [03:06:34] probably in Common.js, right? [03:08:48] i would not know [03:10:12] is there a semantic-mediawiki chan? [03:12:45] what's a semantic-wiki? [03:14:10] it is an extension for mediawiki [03:14:21] that uses semantic content to better dynamically organize pages [03:14:32] we're using it in our wiki [03:14:34] just started [03:14:38] http://hampedia.org [03:25:10] gah! [03:26:51] ...? [03:30:12] Skizzerz ran away [04:24:39] 03(mod) Allow blocking of global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15294 (10mikelifeguard) [04:25:42] 03(NEW) Allow optional replacement of user talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16305 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (mikelifeguard) [04:29:32] 03(NEW) Allow user to specify block settings from CU form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16306 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (mikelifeguard) [04:57:05] Do anyone here know of a site with a collection of more stylish looking Mediawiki skins than those one might find on the gallery of User Styles? [05:15:38] Trynemjoel: Try Google? [05:16:32] Gee, thanks. [05:16:50] !skins [05:16:50] --mwbot-- Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: [05:16:57] :P [05:17:44] again, a sarcastc thanks. [05:17:57] You're quite the peach. [06:27:40] my objectcache table is corrupt [06:27:57] what should I do? [06:28:32] although that doesn't explain it [06:28:37] whoops [06:29:06] it's just a cache [06:31:04] fine to empty it then? [06:32:33] just checking that [06:32:48] yeah, should be fine. [06:39:22] WB wikibugs. [06:44:57] werdna, so what are you going to be working on for MediaWiki for the WMF now? [06:53:42] hey [06:55:10] I'm running 1.13.2. I inserted a bit of my own code to the top of index.php that runs session_start() and verifies some data (to make sure the wiki viewer is logged into a separate forum). However, now, the wiki gives an error whenever ANYONE logs in, saying something about how they have cookies disabled [06:55:20] But the cookies aren't disabled, and the login DOES work if you ignore that message. [06:55:40] "$wgDisableCookieCheck = FALSE;" solves this problem. But what is causing it in the first place? the fact that I create a session cookie? [07:08:58] chuck: I'm doing on-wiki configuration stuff for two weeks, then polishing off the abuse filter until christmas. [07:09:26] ah, both very nice features to be improved upon [07:14:32] any git users about? [07:16:10] <_mary_kate_> here's a nickel, get yourself a decent VCS [07:16:46] :/ [07:17:22] I quite like git, tbh [07:54:54] Anyone knows why [[Extension:InputBox]] do not display defined button label when using type=create (you can try by changing code in mediawiki extension page, just use type=create and preview to see that button is not labeled as "Go" but with browser's predefined value) [07:59:45] hey TimStarling [07:59:50] jetlagged? [08:00:55] yes [08:02:33] TimStarling: Ext-dist isnt working properly [08:02:41] Prom_Cat: details, please. [08:02:45] n the mediawiki wiki [08:02:51] <_mary_kate_> werdna: it doesnt work!! [08:03:00] _mary_kate_: please provide a vaguer error message. [08:03:17] Error: success [08:03:18] *werdna uses _mary_kate_'s quotes against him. [08:03:39] http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=error+success [08:03:48] 404 error: File not found [08:03:59] Its not actually bulding the snapshots [08:04:10] or not saving them [08:04:15] eg [08:04:23] http://upload.wikimedia.org/ext-dist/Configure-trunk-r43348.tar.gz [08:04:39] for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/Configure [08:04:55] TRy getting the trunk edition [08:05:24] also default= is broken... [08:05:45] and my ironing is not done. [08:08:14] *werdna is drafting an email about the great firewall of australia [08:08:44] firereef [08:09:15] i need some help regarding editing [08:10:10] when i edit pages on my wiki, i have the international characters below the edit box, but i have to select then copy them to use them..in wikipedia, i simply click on them and they are inserted... as well, i also am missing the wikitable button at the top, along with several OTHER buttons. my wiki is at http://wiki.mobianlegends.com [08:10:12] "Great Wall of China" -> "Great Firewall of China".... "Barrier Reef" -> "Barrier Firereef"... okay not the best allusion... [08:10:12] if you want to compare it [08:11:17] as well, for some odd reason, i cannot see AntiSpoof on my list of installed plugins, despite adding it to LocalSettings.php and putting it in the extensions folder [08:11:27] 03(NEW) type= create not accepting buttonlabel or default parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16307 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Inputbox; (agony79) [08:11:30] per the top buttons, as those buttons perform javascript they exist in javascript only, the way to add more is via javascript [08:11:35] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Custom_edit_buttons [08:11:47] the ones on En.wp are added via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [08:12:08] i see [08:12:12] i copied Common.js over to my wiki [08:12:26] -> MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.js [08:12:33] it helps to read it too ^_^ [08:13:25] i did read it [08:13:39] well, why can i not see AntiSpoof on my wiki? [08:13:48] it imports /edit.js [08:13:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.js [08:15:23] i copied that js article into my wiki [08:15:30] (edit.js) [08:16:17] purge cache (on an edit page, ctrl+r in FF), should load [08:16:29] but copy the images locally if it works, don't hotlink (except for testing) [08:18:56] ok [08:19:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Edit_toolbar i have the first group, not the second [08:20:49] werdna: Great firewall of australia [08:20:50] ?? [08:21:12] if you're busy, splarka, i can let yuo be [08:21:28] Ring: sec [08:21:30] werdna_ : Great firewall of australia [08:21:33] ?? [08:21:35] Prom_Cat: http://www.google.com/search?q=australia+internet+filtering [08:24:50] when i edit pages on my wiki, i have the international characters below the edit box, but i have to select then copy them to use them [08:24:53] works for me on click [08:24:58] at http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit [08:25:10] I don't see the edit buttons though, I think you don't have them enabled for anon users [08:26:55] i'm logged in and i can't click on them. [08:27:03] how do i enable them? [08:27:08] can you when logged out? [08:27:36] {{Polytonic|}} [08:27:59] I am thinking you have some JS errors [08:28:06] let me check [08:28:45] that works when logged out [08:28:55] so why does it not work when i'm logged in? [08:28:57] http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/User:RingtailedFox/monobook.js [08:28:59] maybe that [08:29:16] that's empty, as was mine on en wikipedia [08:29:42] try checking your js error console [08:30:02] does konqueror have one? [08:31:23] *sigh*, no idea, okay, try replacing your Common.js with: [08:31:25] if (wgAction == "edit" || wgAction == "submit" || wgPageName == "Special:Upload") { importScript("MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.js") } [08:31:29] just that one line [08:31:39] hold on, got firefox going [08:31:47] most of that stuff won't be useful to you there [08:31:53] and most of it references missing scripts [08:32:45] ok [08:35:11] fixed [08:35:20] now, i have just two problems remaining.... the biggest one is AntiSpoof [08:36:25] Heh [08:36:31] Filtering will never go ahead [08:36:34] its not viable [08:36:41] ahh, found it, "Great E-Barrier Reef" [08:36:51] if they do that, their already weak internet trade will collapse [08:37:04] and to paraphrase ED... "lulz will be had around the world" [08:37:23] RingtailedFox [08:37:27] I live in australia [08:37:28] hey, they can cut cables and shoot down satellites, block digitmal packaging at the borders [08:37:31] ....asswipe... [08:37:45] it is viable, just not... very... practical [08:37:51] Haha [08:37:53] yeah [08:37:56] good point [08:38:08] though when does practicality matter to politicans? [08:38:09] 03(mod) type=create not accepting buttonlabel or default parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16307 15enhancement->major (10agony79) [08:38:15] <_mary_kate_> did you just call someone an asswipe for suggesting that the great firewall of australia is a bad idea? [08:38:20] not much, they pass laws to feel good and get reelected [08:38:36] No, I called him an asswipe for baggin australias internetz [08:38:39] its a sin [08:38:41] promcat: not an asswipe [08:38:51] ;) [08:38:54] if they have the pensioner vote from "we stop kids looking at American porn" then they'll do it [08:39:00] (even if they don't) [08:39:05] i'm just saying that people will make such a stink over it that it will be abandoned, or it will fail [08:39:07] heh [08:39:22] RingtailedFox: To right it will fail [08:39:32] or Australia will go more bigbrotherly totalitarian to catch up, like China [08:39:33] I reserve the right to download what i want to. [08:39:48] (not that they succeed, but they make internet life miserable for almost everyone) [08:39:55] *Prom_Cat will get his own internetional satalite connection\ [08:39:59] thatll fuckem :P [08:40:03] srsly aus... not letting your olympic polo teams bring their horses back? [08:40:17] International satellite connection. * [08:40:30] "omg your horses have teh rabies" [08:40:40] haha [08:40:46] They might have [08:41:21] australia seems semi-righteous at times (declaring region-encoded DVD players as illegal, requiring all sold in australia to be region-0, or have all regions enabled)...but then it's seen hanging out with lamoids (china) and taking up their ideas (internet censorship) [08:41:51] Can JavaScript use relative URLs? [08:42:05] For example, the images used in /edit.js ? [08:42:37] MZM: how relative? [08:42:47] So that it breaks copying / pasting? [08:42:57] I suppose we could use wgSomething, right? [08:43:06] "/wiki/foo" or "foo" or "../foo" ? [08:43:13] example? [08:43:25] well [08:43:31] "imageFile": "http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Button_strike.png", [08:43:40] ahh, if you mean the edit buttons, the problem there is they are off server [08:43:47] so it isn't very relative at all [08:43:48] Yes, I just noticed that. [08:43:58] but there is a way... heh [08:44:31] "/wiki/Special:Filepath/Image:Button_strike.png" [08:45:10] Haha. [08:45:17] Would that actually work? [08:45:23] yep [08:45:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/thumb.php?f=Button_strike.png&w=22px would too [08:45:32] but Tim wants to murder it, I believe [08:45:39] Yes, he does. [08:45:46] WP:FIXIT [08:45:47] so best not to rely on it [08:45:50] Probably no real advantage to switching to Filepath. [08:45:55] Special:ExtensionDistributor [08:46:00] ^ IS someone fixing it? [08:46:23] Is it broken? [08:47:18] Yes, yes it is. [08:47:22] File a bug, please. [08:47:36] hmm. i do not see the edit bar when i'm logged out. how do i get it to show up even for logged-out users? [08:47:50] It's hitting upload.wikimedia to grab extensions. That seems wrong. [08:50:13] RingtailedFox: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDefaultUserOptions [08:50:51] but it should be on by default [09:04:02] 03(NEW) Special:ExtensionDistributor not Working on Mediawiki wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16308 major; normal; Wikimedia: Downloads; (bretthillebrand) [09:04:13] Ok ive reported the bug [09:05:08] 03(mod) Special:ExtensionDistributor not Working on Mediawiki wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16308 (10bretthillebrand) [09:06:33] Thank you. [09:06:47] :O MAJOR BUG [09:06:51] EVERYBODY DUCK FOR COVER! [09:07:12] 'duck and cover'? [09:07:22] survive a 1950s nuclear blast by hiding under your desk [09:08:36] <_wooz> lo [09:09:35] you better hide in a fridge [09:13:30] 03(NEW) URLs are not rendered if they contain an equal sign ('=') in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16309 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (ddascalescu+wikimedia) [09:14:25] How critical. [09:16:23] if that is another "unnamed parameters break when I have equals in them" he gets a stabbing [09:17:18] and it is... [09:18:49] *Splarka will let someone else close/dupe it [09:21:25] 03(mod) URLs are not rendered if they contain an equal sign ('=') in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16309 +comment (10herd) [09:22:04] Whats it a dupe off? [09:22:32] the bug he mentions, 5138, but that seems to have gone off topic a bit [09:23:03] and has been reopened *sigh* [09:23:07] *Prom_cat marks it as a dupe [09:23:09] it isn't a bug people [09:23:27] Set it to wont fix? [09:23:44] or invalid [09:23:49] or just dupe it? [09:24:13] let someone else do it, don't get too involved ^_^ [09:24:26] *Prom_cat isnt involved :P [09:31:44] 14(DUP) URLs are not rendered if they contain an equal sign ('=') in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16309 +comment (10bretthillebrand) [09:31:45] 03(mod) HTML tags choke templates with parameters, because of a "=" ( regardless of being masked by ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5138 +comment (10bretthillebrand) [10:58:03] 03(NEW) Improve for Credits, add list of IPs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16310 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (Keisial) [11:01:24] 03(mod) Credits improving, add list of IPs - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16310 summary (10Keisial) [11:52:53] 14(DUP) type=create not accepting buttonlabel or default parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16307 +comment (10soxred93) [11:52:54] 03(mod) Some parameters broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16108 +comment (10soxred93) [11:58:08] hi all [11:58:32] how can change direction from complete media wiki? [11:59:30] must edit the CSS manually or is some variable in Message_lang.php for direction? [12:00:28] direction? [12:00:33] Laaknor: [12:00:34] yes [12:00:44] because for Ex. arabic is RTL [12:00:50] ah [12:03:03] we translate the MessageKu_ara.php to Kurdish but the direction is LTR and thats wrong Kurdish_latin have LTR direction but Ku_ara have RTL direction like arabic. [12:03:37] my question is, is variable somewhere for direction or must i change the CSS? [12:04:26] hmmmm, shouldn't that be translated on translatewiki? [12:05:04] is translated but isn't complete i will complete it ;) Laaknor [12:05:52] yeah, but translatewiki.net is the official place for translation of mediawiki and extensions [12:06:25] Laaknor: ok but have channel in IRC? [12:06:59] "Each language sets its own default values for the user preferences in its language file" [12:07:34] right to left should be in there somewhere [12:09:20] $rtl = true; was one of the first lines in MessagesAr.php [12:11:19] :) i do that but the style is stil LTR [12:11:49] look how it is done in MessagesAr.php [12:13:25] i look it and chang all [12:13:39] but stil is LTr ok i remove cookies and Cache [12:15:47] is stil so :( [12:16:09] and if log out go back to English language [12:18:36] and how can set Kurdish language for all? [12:19:49] because if i logout changed the language again to English!! [12:20:32] it's the default language [12:21:19] DarkoNeko: and how can i change the default language? [12:21:27] LocalSettings.php [12:22:15] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgLanguageCode ? [12:22:26] *White_Cat_Zzz eyes [12:24:10] ۆه تهانخ [12:24:14] thanx [12:24:24] but the Direction is LTR [12:24:30] :-/ [12:30:39] well, one problem at a time :) [12:31:22] if all else fail, put * { direction:ltr } [12:31:35] well rtl (but pasting failed) in your medaiwiki:common.css [12:32:19] I'm absolutly not sure it's a compelte solution :) [12:32:48] i do that DarkoNeko but do nothing [12:32:53] hm [12:35:33] hello [12:35:43] the channel is #mediawiki-i18n [12:38:54] DarkoNeko: who is Mediawiki:common.css? [12:39:04] that's a page of your wiki [12:39:26] mediaWiki: stores all systeme message and has also a few page for your custom css and js [12:39:58] that's a special namespace [12:40:13] that not asoultion [12:40:31] because the rtl.css is edited to direction rtl [12:40:38] what is the problem here? [12:40:39] but the media wiki is still LTR [12:41:10] Nikerabbit he need a right to left wiki [12:42:32] then set the wiki's language to one that is [12:43:15] Nikerabbit: i do that but still is LTR [12:44:21] that's the way it works [12:44:22] her is the MessageKu_arab.php [12:44:25] http://paste.debian.net/21217/plain/21217 [12:44:40] Nikerabbit: isn't Work [12:45:33] also must go to school, thanks [12:45:46] for reason unknown to me, ku-arab is not set to be rtl langauge [12:46:01] Nikerabbit: look http://paste.debian.net/21217/plain/21217 is RTL [12:46:06] and edit the CSS [12:46:11] but NOTHING [12:46:29] laso Bye [12:47:08] no idea what file was that [12:47:16] not in mediawiki.. not my business [12:47:26] food --> [12:48:16] lol [13:09:17] 03werdna * r43382 10/branches/on-wiki_configuration/phase3/LocalSettings.sample: Revert some more WTFage. [13:09:23] lol wut? [13:09:27] 03werdna * r43380 10/branches/on-wiki_configuration/phase3/ (13 files in 5 dirs): [13:09:27] * Rewrite support for setting the Logo. The SiteConfiguration object now plays more than a pretend role in a wiki - it also allows any configuration setting to be overridden in the database, using [13:09:27] $wgConf->set( $key, $value) ! This will make writing on-wiki configuration stuff really really simple :-). [13:09:37] I committed that about ten hours ago :/ [13:09:48] i have a problem regarding AntiSpoof... why is it not showing up in Special:Version ? [13:10:12] it works, beside that ? [13:10:27] 03(NEW) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (robin) [13:11:00] 03werdna * r43381 10/branches/on-wiki_configuration/phase3/LocalSettings.sample: Wtf? [13:11:07] 03(mod) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311 (10robin) [13:11:59] haha, check it out, they're out of order too [13:14:33] can somebody tell me why http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Template:ISOdate is always off by one? [13:15:05] hm. i'm looking through DefaultSettings.php trying to find the option to make e-mail confirmation required.. anyone know what it is? [13:16:56] ah. $wgEmailConfirmToEdit will do the trick i think. [13:17:19] can anyone help me? [13:18:26] RingtailedFox, if you answer DarkoNeko's question [13:19:01] what was his question? [13:19:27] 23:09 < DarkoNeko> it works, beside that ? [13:19:28] i upload it and follow the instructions on its extension page, but it does not show up on Special:Version (which lists all installed extensions)... [13:19:37] does it do what it's supposed to? [13:19:41] no, i do not believe it works.. [13:20:00] antispoof makes it harder for people to make similar-appearing names to each other [13:20:10] then I assume you don't have included it in your localsettings, [13:20:11] like User:Example and User:Exapmle [13:20:19] it's in local settings [13:20:32] require_once("$IP/extensions/AntiSpoof/AntiSpoof.php"); [13:20:56] tried putting the error show to max to see if something was showing ? [13:20:58] !debug [13:20:58] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [13:21:23] i never debugged mediawiki before [13:21:41] well, it's now or never ^^ [13:23:00] wow, that looks complex. [13:23:31] just a few lines to copy, don't worry about hte lwoer hafl( din-depth is not needed) [13:25:13] ok [13:26:30] are error_reporting(E_ALL);
ini_set("display_errors", 1) supposed to go before no no no [13:26:49] and htere's no
[13:27:01] the #time parser functions offsets all my dates by one, "{{ #time: l j F Y | 2007-03-04 }}" like in the example gives "Saturday 3 March 2007", can somebody tell me why? [13:27:02] it's also in your localsetting, at the bottom of it [13:27:04] i know there's no
[13:27:09] (but insed the part) [13:27:18] then please don't put one ;_; [13:27:42] so you'd rather it post two lines? [13:27:47] error_reporting(E_ALL); [13:27:47] ini_set("display_errors", 1) [13:27:50] 03catrope * r43383 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: [13:27:50] Remove RELEASE-NOTES entry added in r43377 (Factored wfInvokeFancyCallback() out [13:27:50] of wfRunHooks()) and tweaked in r43379 (Renamed the new wfInvokeFancyCallback to [13:27:50] simply wfInvoke). RELEASE-NOTES is intended for user-visible changes. Internal [13:27:50] refactorings like the wfInvoke() thing shouldn't be listed there. [13:27:54] wait [13:27:58] werdna: that is quite wtf [13:28:11] it's not like each of these show one line of error [13:28:24] it jus tell the program to show more error, no matter how many there are [13:28:39] i'm lost [13:28:58] lch: what is wrong with that example? [13:29:04] just put the line at the bottom of the localsetting. don't think about how the errors will show, the program will do it himself [13:29:19] it's just 2 lines, and please do not alter thelm in any way :) [13:29:26] Nikerabbit, it's supposed to give "Sunday 4 March 2007" [13:29:39] all my dates with #time are being offset by one [13:29:48] by one day ? [13:29:50] yes [13:29:58] is it possible to get the TOC of a page into the left navigation bar, but limit it to level 1 sections? [13:30:01] lch: can you inclde hours too? [13:30:01] time setting ? [13:30:13] let's try hours... [13:30:31] I think, if it's on GMT minus something, it could do that [13:31:56] "{{#time:D, j M Y H:i:s +0000}}" works correctly [13:32:08] giving "Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:31:31 +0000" [13:32:13] that's the correct date [13:33:15] what if you leave the timezone out? [13:33:24] how do I do that? [13:33:31] Theres still problems installing mediawiki 1.14alpha on PostgreSQL? referred: ( http://tinyurl.com/6z2taz ) [13:33:31] I suppose that it runs on GMT, yes [13:35:11] Jrm: file a bug? [13:35:24] 03raymond * r43384 10/trunk/phase3/ (199 files in 2 dirs): [13:35:24] * Rebuild all messages per r43376 (search form) [13:35:24] * Fix error in messages.inc [13:36:09] is there any way to get the TOC for a given page restricted to a certain section level? [13:36:19] estan: no [13:36:33] Nikerabbit: not even an extension for it? [13:36:46] none that I am aware of [13:36:51] ok. damn. [13:39:35] you can probably do it with javascript [13:40:20] or maybe CSS? [13:40:27] don't think so [13:41:19] well i just realized i should probably be using subpages for this wiki.. and i see there are extensions for getting lists of them.. (like e.g. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SubPageList3) [13:41:26] so, is there anything I can do to test for this #time bug except nagging TimStarling ? [13:42:03] Yes, CSS works fine. [13:42:09] enwiki has some classes for it. [13:42:19] For restricting the TOC level, I mean. [13:42:40] Simetrical: yea but you can't get a TOC for page A on page B with that. [13:42:49] Right, that's not possible. [13:42:50] i'd like to put it in the Sidebar. [13:43:00] The sidebar is even trickier. [13:43:04] Nikerabbit: ooh theres a bug report of that already :) [13:43:04] With all its magical caching. [13:43:10] yea.. i'm just hoping i can get it to work.. [13:43:25] Jrm: which one? [13:43:35] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16256 [13:45:11] !r 43275 [13:45:11] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=43275 [13:52:14] 03(NEW) Namespace names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16312 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (chinneeb) [13:57:41] Nikerabbit: You got that link? [13:57:55] 14(INVALID) Namespace names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16312 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [14:08:07] how can i turn off the donation display banner in wikibooks? [14:25:01] 03(NEW) Mediawiki crashed irremediably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313 04BLOCKER; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin) [14:25:11] 03(mod) Mediawiki crashed irremediably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313 normal->highest (10bertrand.grondin) [14:27:57] we have a great crashing in mediawiki (extensions perhaps) in r43384 : see bug # 16313 [14:28:27] 14(INVALID) Mediawiki crashed irremediably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:39:52] OK, I have random other scripts use MediaWiki's sessions as their own. So, if someone accesses a script, but they're not logged in, I provide a login form for them. The login form points to MediaWiki (requiring no changes to MediaWiki code). After the login, I want to return the user to the page they logged in from. I supply that page's location to MediaWiki through the 'returnto' parameter. [14:41:22] in ../includes/specials/SpecialUserlogin.php in successfulLogin(), I add a clause to check for a real URL being passed and redirect the user [14:41:53] This works sometimes, but not others. What other location do I have to add this to since MediaWiki obviously doesn't use the same login code for every login? [14:43:08] http://p3m.org/pef/2658 [14:47:02] 03(mod) Mediawiki crashed irremediably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313 (10bertrand.grondin) [14:49:24] 04(REOPENED) Mediawiki crashed irremediably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313 +comment (10charlie) [14:49:49] 03(mod) Mediawiki crashed irremediably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313 +comment (10b-jorsch) [14:52:21] 03(FIXED) Recent Hooks.php rewrite breaks onEventname hook functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313 summary (10roan.kattouw) [14:52:45] 04(REOPENED) Recent Hooks.php rewrite breaks onEventname hook functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313 (10roan.kattouw) [14:55:27] who would be willing to help me with templates and subst around here? [14:55:47] for en.wiktonary.org [15:01:50] I did an attempt at: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Template:poly [15:24:03] 03raymond * r43385 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [15:24:03] Cleanup for r43376: [15:24:03] * Use a more precious fieldset legend [15:24:03] * Remove two unused message names from messages.inc [15:24:31] <_mary_kate_> more precious? [15:25:38] aaargs [15:25:40] :/ [15:25:56] should be "precise" [15:39:31] is there some way to force a line break inside an if-statement [15:40:08] like if i wanted to do {{subst:#ifexist:Category:Foobar|[[Category:Foobar]] [15:40:09] }} [15:40:29] to leave the categories on separate lines [15:41:30] and not get a bunch of blank lines if half a dozen categories don't exist [15:49:54] Hey guys. I have a question. What do I have to do to implement the MediaWiki:Common.css style? Just add an 'MediaWiki:Common.css' article with the content of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css? [15:51:11] or the same page from whatever site you wanted to copy the appearance [15:52:08] OK, seriously. Why does it clear the passed in parameters if there were no session cookies before the login? [15:52:25] the returnTo field is being cleared and it makes no sense why [15:54:06] NotASpider: Yes! It works! Thanks for your help! ;-) [15:54:43] hm [15:54:47] i gotta problem [15:54:59] when i create a page with 4-5 h1 [15:55:13] and then create h2 and h3 under one of them [15:55:23] how can i get "back" to the normal text? [15:55:46] maybe i write a h3 some text behinde and then wonna write some text under the one before [15:55:59] my english is so bad ^^ [16:00:38] a url for the page you are working on might help [16:01:03] more than trying to explain it [16:10:20] http://wiki.netcup.de/wiki/Bestellvorgang [16:11:05] under the first pic is a blue line... it is "== ==" [16:11:35] when i dont use it, i write more text under the "Hinweis" ("=== ===") above it [16:11:49] but this cant be the right way u know what i mean? [16:12:29] the toc is also looking strange with this way [16:17:18] 03raymond * r43386 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messageTypes.inc: Make 'searchmenu-help' optional [16:21:44] Hello everyone, I'm trying to upload an image file to my Wiki. Its giving me the error "The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name..." I have changed the PHP.ini to accept larger files but the file is only 9K, any other reason this could happen? [16:22:25] what filetype? [16:22:29] which content? [16:22:50] its an image file.. I tried it as a .jpg changed it to .bmp and they both dont work [16:23:04] upload activated? [16:23:08] yes [16:23:38] i get the open file dialog box from the 'browse' button, the file path is correct but it says the file is empty [16:26:01] "The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether you really want to upload this file. " ----> How do I fix this error?? [16:30:00] helllllou [16:34:48] The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether you really want to upload this file. ----> Does anyone know how to resolve this problem? [16:45:18] anybody knowledgeable about templates and subst? [16:53:36] "The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether oyu really want to upload this file." --------- Does anyone know how to resolve this error? [16:54:10] hi people, just a note: your mediawiki extension distributor is not working [16:54:23] offers 404 for all the extensions i try to get a snapshot of [16:54:35] (and i'm unfortunately unable to use svn directly) [16:55:30] piski - what extensions are you trying to access? [16:56:01] well, MiniDonation and ExpandTemplates at least [16:57:03] whops [16:57:22] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MiniDonation doesnt work for you? [16:57:56] JMcIvor: emm... i was talking about the extension distributor, i.e.: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/MiniDonation [17:01:13] piski-: seems to be working fine for me [17:01:26] hi [17:02:37] did the redirect behaviour change in one of the last mediawiki versions? i'm trying to do a modrewrite to a special page with [L] and it doesnt work - when i use [R] it works.. seems like mediawiki is using the original query url? [17:03:01] this has worked fine, but doesnt after the upgrade - instead of going to the special page it redirects [17:06:10] JMcIvor: you were able to download http://upload.wikimedia.org/ext-dist/MiniDonation-trunk-r41321.tar.gz ? [17:07:47] the redirect by mediawiki happens even before my extension gets executed [17:07:56] seems like an overzealous canonical url thingie [17:16:29] 03laner * r43387 10/trunk/extensions/LdapAuthentication/LdapAuthentication.php: * Had the version check logic for which hook I use for auto authentication wrong. [17:25:45] 03laner * r43388 10/trunk/extensions/LdapAuthentication/LdapAuthentication.php: Misspelled $wgLDAPAutoAuth in a check, which caused the auto-auth domain to not be removed from the list of domains. Fixed. [17:26:42] Is there some kind of hook that can be used to create a whole new sidebar menu, kind of akin to MonoBookTemplateToolboxEnd? [17:33:19] In the Userlogin.php template, I'd like to add an id on the tr that holds the domain name select item. The select has a name of wpDomain. Is it ok for me to use wpDomain as the id on the tr, or should I use another string? [17:38:31] 03ialex * r43389 10/trunk/phase3/README: [17:38:31] Update README: [17:38:31] * fixed urls [17:38:31] * end lines at 80 chars [17:38:31] * updated Wikimedia traffic [17:38:31] * updated the list of authors to be the same as the one at Special:Version [17:38:33] * modified the note telling that extensions must be under GPL. Per http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins, they can also be under a compatible license [17:39:50] whats the best way to do mod_rewrites with mediawiki without getting into the way of the internal redirector? [17:40:46] RewriteRule /foo.pdf /index.php/Special:Pdf/Main_Page [L] does not work [17:40:55] while RewriteRule /foo.pdf /index.php/Special:Pdf/Main_Page [R] does work [17:41:05] 03laner * r43390 10/trunk/extensions/LdapAuthentication/LdapAuthentication.php: Added ldapi support (in kind of a dirty way). To use this, ensure your server name is the path of the socket on your file system, and your encryption type is ldapi (...like I said, kind of dirty). [17:42:03] is this even the right channel to ask this kind of questions? [17:42:12] probably ^^; [17:42:25] ashash: not necessarily [17:42:39] ashash: are you trying to do short urls? [17:42:40] ashash: seems to more an apache issue that a mediawiki issue [17:42:49] it worked before [17:43:28] heh. now that i read what you are doing i see you are definately not trying to do short urls :) [17:43:34] seems like mediawiki redirects in some kind of misguided canonical url thingie [17:44:17] the execute is not called by mediawiki when I use [L] [17:44:28] seems it takes the original request url somehow [17:44:37] because when its doing a proper redirect it works [17:49:45] 03rotem * r43391 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesEn.php MessagesHe.php): Localization update for he, and adding 'ignored message' comment in en. [17:53:16] put another way.. [17:53:24] works: RewriteRule /test /index.php/Special:WhatLinksHere/Main_Page [R] [17:53:33] does not work RewriteRule /test /index.php/Special:WhatLinksHere/Main_Page [L] [17:54:05] does not work either RewriteRule /test /index.php/Special:WhatLinksHere/Main_Page [17:54:16] the two last ones will redirect me to Main_Page [17:55:14] 03laner * r43392 10/trunk/extensions/LdapAuthentication/LdapAuthentication.php: Automatically confirm email if we are setting the user's email address from LDAP. [18:04:36] 03laner * r43393 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/templates/Userlogin.php): Adding an id to the domain tr so that admins with a single domain can hide the domain section with CSS. [18:40:45] anybody knows how to solve this type of error : A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: [18:40:45] (SQL query hidden) [18:40:45] from within function "Parser::replaceLinkHolders". MySQL returned error "1271: Illegal mix of collations for operation ' IN ' (asianmediawiki1.asianmediawiki.dreamhosters.com)".? [18:41:20] i have the edit toolbar showing up properly in my wiki when i edit, but when i log out, i only see the first half of the edit toolbar. how do i get it to show the rest for ANYONE (even non-logged-in users)? [18:49:57] Hello, does anyone know how to fix: "The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether you really want to upload this file"... this error? [18:55:31] Someone please help: I accidentally rebooted without shutting down uniformserver/mediawiki [18:55:38] now my database is corrupted [18:55:46] <[KrusheR]> hi [18:55:46] and when i repaired, i LOST a lot of pages! [18:55:49] <[KrusheR]> is it normal "cleanupTitles.php" stops when it find a wrong name? [18:56:03] is there a way i can revert back to how the wiki was a few hours ago? [18:56:09] <[KrusheR]> Pescha, you may need to fix the tables in the database [18:56:29] KrusheR is there a way to fix all tables and not go one by one? [18:56:43] <[KrusheR]> I use phpmyadmin [18:56:47] me too [18:56:52] what's the command ishould use? [18:56:59] <[KrusheR]> just select all the tables and "repair" them [18:57:08] <[KrusheR]> i think there's an option around [18:58:00] what do you do when you lose data after a repair? [18:58:03] is there a way to get it back? [18:58:10] [KrusheR]: i have the edit toolbar showing up properly in my wiki when i edit, but when i log out, i only see the first half of the edit toolbar. how do i get it to show the rest for ANYONE (even non-logged-in users)? [18:58:10] hi everybody there [18:58:11] <[KrusheR]> i think it's gone for good [18:58:12] good evening [18:59:16] <[KrusheR]> RingtailedFox i'm sorry, i don't even know how to have a different edit bar for different user levels [18:59:38] oh ok [18:59:55] are you good with extensions at least? i have one that's installed, but does not show up in Special:Version [19:00:00] debugging found no errors [19:00:33] <[KrusheR]> i think a hook or something is needed to be coded in the extension for being showed in special:version [19:00:36] <[KrusheR]> let me see... [19:01:00] the extension in question is AntiSpoof [19:01:22] <[KrusheR]> check $wgExtensionCredits [19:01:30] in? [19:01:37] <[KrusheR]> in the extension itself [19:01:53] ok [19:02:15] <[KrusheR]> by the way, have anyone ever used cleanupTitles.php maintenance script? [19:02:46] what am i looking for? [19:03:49] <[KrusheR]> something like this: http://pastebin.com/d27b65b2a [19:05:06] does anyone know how to recover the data that was lost after repairing the database? [19:05:14] i literally lost all of yesterday's work [19:05:25] http://pastebin.com/dcf01d4e mine [19:05:41] pescha, that might be a job for #sql [19:05:49] Pescha: other than recommending keeping backups (from now on) you can't really do much [19:06:15] any time you are messing around with the database you should ALWAYS back it up [19:06:30] what am i doing wrong, [KrusheR] ? [19:06:34] <[KrusheR]> RingtailedFox: it seems right, what version of MW do you have? [19:06:51] <[KrusheR]> i think 1.12 had the special page bugged [19:07:13] loading.. [19:07:40] 1.13.2 [19:08:03] <[KrusheR]> i have no more ideas left, sorry [19:08:41] it's cool [19:08:56] might be a bug in the software or extension? [19:10:19] Anyone know why I keep getting a "file is empty" when I try to upload an image... or any other file for that matter [19:10:23] <[KrusheR]> some extension may have mess the whole array [19:10:26] <[KrusheR]> but I don't really know [19:11:19] and its not a problem with Apache... I changed the values in php.ini... and I am all out of ideas [19:11:25] <[KrusheR]> by the way, is it ok to have a comma after the last element of an array? [19:11:36] <[KrusheR]> like in 'descriptionmsg' => 'antispoof-desc', } [19:11:47] probably not Krush [19:11:57] <[KrusheR]> have you tried that, RingtailedFox? [19:12:11] tried what? [19:12:18] <[KrusheR]> removing that last comma [19:12:29] <[KrusheR]> it may be messing the whole array [19:12:30] in antispoof.php? [19:12:33] <[KrusheR]> yes [19:13:15] removed, uploading [19:15:48] did nothing [19:15:59] where are mediawiki's mysql table stored? [19:16:06] in fact where is the mysql database stored at all? [19:17:02] no errors, but it's still not listed [19:17:30] <[KrusheR]> the extension is loaded, right? [19:17:51] Pescha: it should be in /home/.../data [19:17:52] i have no idea. i thought if it was loaded, it would show up in Special:Version [19:17:58] In the MySQL database. ;) [19:18:48] Pescha: /home/*whereEverWikiIs*/data [19:19:50] Pescha: but in my experience you can't do anything with the .frm, .MYI, etc. files. To really do anything with the data you need to login to mysql [19:20:24] what's the best way to set up backups so that this will never happena gain? [19:20:32] <[KrusheR]> JMcIvor it's OK to backup those files? or it's better to make an SQL backup? [19:21:08] Pescha: check this out http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Backup helped me a lot [19:21:18] <[KrusheR]> tanks [19:21:39] <[KrusheR]> i have a similar backup system in my wiki [19:22:14] woof [19:22:27] i just went through that stuff yesterday, because I'm going to attempt an upgrade to the trunk [19:22:54] maybe I should try 1.13.2 first... [19:27:32] Anyone know the best way to get a file from my Windows desktop to a Remote Linux Box? [19:28:22] winscp [19:32:59] can someone point me to a page that talks about how to set values within session data for mediawiki? [19:34:40] eghjaytee: use $_SESSION [19:34:56] ialex: ok I will search on that term [19:35:28] lch: thank you, that program is quite amazing [19:35:39] I need to be able to set a user name for a referral contest within the session [19:36:39] eghjaytee: you want the name of the current user? [19:37:17] no, I need to stash away a value that represents the user name of the user that referred the new user, if that makes sense [19:37:23] lol [19:37:48] hi [19:37:51] (again) [19:38:14] how can I remove "search" "toolbox" and "languages" from the sidebar ? [19:38:23] http://kokoro.no.koe.free.fr/mediawiki/index.php?title=Accueil [19:41:41] 03(mod) Show "You have new messages on your user or user_talk page" -- i .e. both pages are notified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1876 (10N/A) [19:41:43] 03(mod) Message bar for changes to userspace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13985 (10N/A) [19:42:10] Wov Ceridwen , a wonderful site [19:42:16] such a nice design! [19:42:17] thanks :) [19:42:25] design is my job ^^ [19:42:42] my god, one can see it! [19:43:34] I did design for this one too http://kokoro.no.blog.free.fr/blog/ [19:43:45] it's not pretty :oi [19:44:01] lol [19:44:07] :D [19:44:09] *Ceridwen slaps DarkoNeko [19:44:14] very very very nice [19:44:21] my site is actually hacked [19:44:22] *DarkoNeko dodges [19:44:36] would anybody be so kind to help me to restrict the edit access to the users? [19:44:41] I am fed up with the hackers! [19:44:45] http://www.neurohostorg [19:44:48] http://www.neurohost.org [19:45:04] Ceridwen, maybe I would ask you to help me with the design [19:45:14] but not with the site, but with my illustrations [19:45:16] of a book [19:45:46] actually is incredible that such a wiki can be changed so much [19:46:07] it wasn't the harder way to do [19:46:18] it's just some jpg in the background [19:46:21] but nobody do this [19:48:03] 03(NEW) usermessage: display change since last visit, not last change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16314 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (church.of.emacs.ml) [19:55:21] 03(NEW) Change favicon on de, fr, pl Wiktionary - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (derbeth) [19:56:30] 03(mod) Change favicon on de, fr, pl Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315 +shell (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:02:11] !userrughts [20:02:11] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "userrughts". [20:02:14] !userrights [20:02:14] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [20:02:22] Nin, that should do the trick [20:03:28] ok DarkoNeko [20:03:32] Ceridwen, is helping me [20:03:47] I've just change some things in the LocalSettings.php [20:03:51] I hope it works [20:04:01] because I am sick of vadalisms in my site [20:04:16] nanan���reuh :p [20:04:28] I helped someone about mediawiki O_O [20:04:49] *Nin was helped by Ceridwen [20:05:02] awesome ^^ [20:09:28] how do i update my wiki database? [20:09:30] is it "maintenance/update.php" from shell? [20:09:56] yes [20:10:25] hmm [20:11:00] when i run update.php, it says it is updating database mobianle_wiki-new_, yet my database for my wiki is mobianle_wiki (everything still works properly... localsettings.php and adminsettings.php list the proper values) [20:12:20] is that something i should be concerned about, ialex? [20:13:11] RingtailedFox: do you have $wgDBprefix = 'new_'; ? [20:17:23] in which file? [20:17:30] localsettings.php? [20:17:41] if so, then yes [20:18:17] removing it [20:19:44] RingtailedFox: then it's updating the mobianle_wiki database with tables prefixed with new_ [20:20:25] i removed new_ and then ran the update script. is that what i was supposed to do? [20:22:59] RingtailedFox: if the wiki was working with $wgDBprefix = 'new_';, you shouldn't change it [20:23:11] changed back [20:23:13] it's still working [20:23:59] the problem is, i cannot get AntiSpoof to work. it is installed in localsettings.php and uploaded to the extensions folder BUT... it does not show up in Special:Version [20:24:04] why is this? [20:25:18] RingtailedFox: did you include it from LocalSettings.php? [20:25:48] yes [20:26:17] what did you put? [20:27:00] i put what was on the mediawiki site: require_once("$IP/extensions/AntiSpoof/AntiSpoof.php"); [20:27:31] RingtailedFox: where in LocalSettings.php? [20:27:50] near the top [20:28:00] it did not specify a particular location for inclusion [20:28:53] RingtailedFox: put it at the bottom [20:29:41] moved to bottom and saving [20:31:46] YES [20:31:46] that worked [20:32:11] my final issue is with the editbar [20:34:06] 03dale * r43394 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (22 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed) [20:34:07] * smil editor style updates [20:34:07] * "pause" ui updates for stream view [20:34:07] * updated category links to just be an image link [20:34:07] * upgraded to new flowplayer 3.x [20:34:07] * moved to its own folder with GPL license etc [20:34:11] * supports reporting buffer state [20:35:00] in english wikipedia, i have the full editbar, even when not logged in. [20:35:20] when i'm logged out on my wiki site, i see only the first portion of it. i see the full one when i log in. how can i show the full editbar for all users (logged-in or not)? [20:37:14] RingtailedFox: because the english wikipedia defined some custom buttons in MediaWiki:Common.js [20:37:33] i see [20:38:09] i copied their MediaWiki:Common.js file though :) [20:44:03] i thought that would allow it to work [20:45:10] buttons themselves are in MediaWiki:Common.js/edit.js ;) [20:46:18] which i also copied from wikipedia [20:47:06] 03dale * r43395 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [20:47:06] * minor code clean up [20:47:06] * removed unnecessary entry point delay_load.php [20:52:25] why don't the edit and move boxes on action=protect align ? it seems silly to have them on separate lines [20:53:44] Charitwo: you mean why aren't they both on the same line? [20:53:58] one box is on top of each other, instead of side by side [20:54:09] people complained that it was too wide for smaller-res screens [20:54:28] so you appease 1 group of people to upset another? [20:55:15] horizontal scrolling is a much bigger annoyance than a slight style issue [20:55:36] 03ialex * r43396 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/flowplayer/ (4 files): svn:eol-style native [20:55:37] <_mary_kate_> that's only true about other peoples' style issues [20:55:40] 1024x768 would definitely accommodate both, if people are running smaller than that, that is a user issue not a coding one :) [20:55:40] <_mary_kate_> mine are much more important [20:56:11] on my wiki, the extensions have a checkbox to use them, but only a couple have that checkbox selected [20:56:15] is that normal? [20:56:46] well, besides that pretty much everything else is designed for 800x600, not everyone browses with the window at full width [20:57:41] I've got some ideas to use JS to make the protection form be a little more friendly, but haven't got around to implementing them [20:58:37] Small screens can't handle 2 list boxes side by side, so we need to put them on top of each other? [20:59:12] diagonally would have been more difficult [20:59:18] people just need to get bigger monitors and stop being babies [21:00:45] body { min-width: 1024px; } [21:17:24] 03dale * r43397 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (embedLibs/mv_flashEmbed.js mv_embed.js): fixed flowplayer path [21:20:50] hi [21:21:54] 14(DUP) usermessage: display change since last visit, not last change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16314 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [21:21:55] 03(mod) "(last change)" in new messages box should link to combined diff of all changes since last visit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12701 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [21:22:02] is it possible to use the signiature code ~~~~ in templates without interprete them by saving the template? I want that they will insert the signiature of the user who is editing the article with the template in it. I allready tried [21:23:12] Danwe: ~~~~ [21:26:41] how do i fix this issue: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare wfspecialcitenav() (previously declared in /home1/mobianle/public_html/wiki/w/extensions/Cite/SpecialCite.php:37) in /home1/mobianle/public_html/wiki/w/extensions/SpecialCite/SpecialCite.php on line 46 [21:30:36] _mary_kate_ do you know how i can fix this? [21:31:42] or you, ialex ? [21:35:15] RingtailedFox: you have the same extension twice. don#t do that. [21:35:21] Thank you MrZ-man, will try that. Smart idea [21:37:01] MrZ-Man: no this doesnt work :-( gives ~~~~ in the output of the article, too [21:37:27] are you subst:'ing the template? [21:37:46] sorry [21:37:50] i have Cite, and SpecialCite [21:37:50] no. should I? [21:38:05] so, i suppose i should get rid of one. which one offers more/better functionality? [21:38:10] But I dont want to subst: it [21:38:15] if you want the signature to be expanded when people use the template, yes [21:38:31] otherwise you need to do something like {{template|sig=~~~~}} [21:38:40] the template has much things inside, the signiature is only a smal part of it [21:39:29] yes, that was my first idea. but i would prefer the other way [21:39:33] if there is any [21:39:45] duesentrieb: which should i remove? [21:40:23] RingtailedFox: well, you'll have to find out yourself which is the "right" one. you probably wnat to use the newer version. or the version fitting your release of mediawiki [21:40:36] 1.13.2 [21:40:41] that's my mediawiki version [21:42:08] so i have a conflict between which cite version wants to use Special:Cite... this is odd [21:48:16] wikipedia has both activated and they have no conflicts. how did htey do it? [21:49:01] magics? [21:50:02] come on. [21:50:11] you don't actually believe in magic, do you? [21:52:07] ^_^ no, but we believe in magick [21:53:10] lol [21:53:17] 03(mod) Empty pages after a move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16292 (10yann) [21:54:47] ok, i have a major problem [21:55:09] *Mike||gone sighs [21:55:12] when i enabled plugins, i accidentally enabled one that i did not intend to. i removed it from my LocalSettings.php file, but it still shows up. removing the folder causes a cascade of further errors.. [21:55:12] Fatal error: Class 'AuthPluginUser' not found in /home1/mobianle/public_html/wiki/w/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthUser.php on line 14 [21:55:16] that's the error. [21:55:23] is there a "safe mode" i can use to remove it? [21:55:32] or at least deactivate it? [21:56:43] duesentrieb: what do i do? [21:57:28] RingtailedFox: removing it from localsettings is all you need to do. if that does not have the desired effect, you didn't remove the right thing. [21:57:29] Re-read your LocalSettings.php cause you screwed up removing it [21:57:57] i removed the right thing, but it did nothing :P [21:59:10] well, the problem is, even if i remove it, the thing is still activated from Special:Extensions [21:59:16] how do i get in to disable it? [21:59:44] RingtailedFox: find out wtf Special:Extensions does and how. or don't sue 3rd party black magic extensions that screw up your setup [22:00:03] it allows you to enable or disable plugins and extensions o.o [22:00:23] you guys aren't going to help me, are ya? [22:00:45] disable the Special:Extensions extension? [22:01:29] RingtailedFox: don't use that crap, it just fucked up your install :) [22:01:45] so why is it even on mediawiki then/ [22:01:55] are you just going to make stupid smileys and not help me? [22:01:57] and when disableling it, make sure you remove any cruft it has added to your localsettings. like including some more files, that include more files, that... [22:02:50] RingtailedFox: what extension is this? [22:02:50] RingtailedFox: if i didn't wnat to help you, i wouldn't talk to you. mediawiki.org is a wiki. it has whatever people put there. is the extension in the wikipedia repository? i doubt it. [22:03:22] it's Extension:Configure [22:03:37] it is in the wikipedia repository, actually [22:03:41] in wikipedia's Special:Version [22:04:12] is there a magic word or something for the name of the user who saved the article? [22:04:33] RingtailedFox: here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special%3AVersion [22:04:35] i don't see it. [22:04:46] hold on [22:04:56] maybe it was meta.wikimedia or www.wikimedia [22:05:36] RingtailedFox: but you are right, it is in the repos. marked beta, though. well... i find it extremly scary :) and as you see, not without reason. [22:05:47] *nods* [22:06:09] RingtailedFox: talk to the extension's author. you are using "some" way to include extensions. which means the "normal" way to do things no longer works as expected. [22:06:12] sorry, no help there. [22:06:34] hm [22:08:27] ialex is in the channel, so try him [22:08:52] hmm [22:08:57] i am [22:09:00] he's not responding [22:10:33] hmm... [22:10:55] didn't someone write an extension that implements #tag for the wikis that don't have it? [22:11:02] morning [22:12:19] Skizzerz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TagParser [22:12:30] i can't figure this out. it whines about includes/defaultsettings.php...even when i remove it [22:12:35] hmm, thanks [22:12:51] *Skizzerz hates developing for people that refuse to upgrade mw [22:13:14] my wiki: http://wiki.mobianlegends.com [22:14:57] hello? [22:15:55] RingtailedFox: Get an unadultered copy of LocalSettings.php? [22:16:28] sure. where? [22:17:05] Actually [22:17:12] just remove the offending line[s] [22:17:14] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Configure#Installation [22:17:18] i did [22:17:21] they still come out. [22:17:29] What about efConfigureSetup(); [22:17:30] ? [22:17:36] that was NEVER in localsettings.php [22:17:48] well, what's on line 36? [22:18:06] nothign right now [22:18:20] this is what's pissing me off. errors where none should be [22:18:38] I don't see how there can be NOTHING on line 36 [22:18:50] what's on lines 35 and 37? [22:18:53] it's a blank line, emufarmers [22:19:11] it put efConfigureSetup(); on 36 [22:19:17] i reloaded localsettings.php [22:19:19] removing that offending turd [22:21:38] If you want, you could put LocalSettings.php minus db info on http://rafb.net/paste/ and we could take a look at it [22:29:20] GAH! [22:29:30] I just thought "hmm, I should talk to Skizzerz" [22:29:33] and off he goes...] [22:30:38] werdna: just a question: which settings should be editable with on-wiki_configuration branch? [22:31:09] ialex: well, Brion's tasked me with logo, group rights, and namespaces. [22:31:13] So that's what I'm doing for now. [22:32:25] ialex: why do you ask? [22:33:04] werdna: because I wrote an extension that allows to change configuration settings via the web [22:33:08] !e Configure [22:33:08] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Configure [22:33:39] *^demon got a G1 [22:33:44] woo! [22:33:47] is it any good? [22:33:56] ialex: ah. Brion didn't like its implementation. [22:34:06] <^demon> I like it thus far. [22:34:11] assuming a common filesystem is no good. [22:34:25] werdna: it can also use a db now [22:34:25] <^demon> mediawiki renders great :) esp. since it loads JS and CSS just fine. [22:34:39] ialex: *shrug* [22:34:45] I'm doing as I'm told :) [22:35:00] but if it does use the database, it might be sensible to use the same schema [22:35:05] there we go, managed to fix things [22:35:31] werdna: the difference is that it uses a common database (such as CentralAuth) [22:35:42] with your implementation [22:35:48] but also uses $wgConf [22:36:19] Well that's something I might consider writing in. I've already thought about using a central database. [22:36:22] Is there any way I can set a system message or something like that to get MediaWiki to add some google ads to the sidebar? [22:36:33] *chuck doesn't want to hack up monobook.php [22:36:35] There's an extension, I believe. [22:36:38] It might be a nice idea to have a pluggable system that can use a central database. [22:36:40] !ads [22:36:40] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "ads". You might try: !adsense !filesize !images !threads !upload !uploads [22:36:51] !adsense [22:36:51] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GoogleAdSense [22:37:12] that extension only ads a tag to put ads inside of the article [22:37:19] <^demon> werdna: automatic integration with google stuff, plus the gps, rounds out to be a nice phone :) [22:37:20] Indeed. [22:37:38] <^demon> (especially since t-mobile-made phones have typically sucked...) [22:37:38] ^demon: good to hear, I might think about getting one when I'm in the states, provided I can get it off-plan. [22:37:39] the extension distributo isn't working with at least some extensions [22:37:40] I thinkk http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_AdSense_2 is the better one [22:37:46] it's offering 404 [22:37:58] MrZ-man: but requires 1.14 [22:38:14] <^demon> werdna: They're only with Tmobile right now. Sim-card based, so you could probably get one unlocked to get a pay-as-you-go simcard in. [22:38:16] *werdna waits for git clone to finish. [22:38:16] piksi: Indeed. There's a bug filed about that. [22:38:32] ^demon: sounds good. I hope so. [22:38:36] TimStarling: Did you see that the ExtensionDistributor is throwing a 404 for certain downloads? [22:39:40] MZMcBride: oh, good. sorry for extra whine [22:40:08] Oh, no it's a good thing. :-) [22:40:15] Nagging moves things along usually. [22:40:24] *werdna offers piksi some cheese. [22:40:34] :-> [22:41:00] That joke just makes you seem illiterate in text form. [22:41:11] <^demon> werdna: I'm trying to find an IRC app for the thing right now. [22:41:56] If I miss MacDonalds' breakfast because this git clone takes too long, I'm going to be pissed off. [22:42:06] ah, it's finished/ [22:42:10] *werdna rushes to Hornsby. [22:42:19] I'll be on in 30 minutes or so [22:43:44] MZMcBride: no I didn't [22:43:53] is there a bug report? [22:44:02] Yes. [22:44:25] If MessagesXx.php has 'redirect' => array( '0', '#A', '#B' ), is it possible to have some local settings thingie to make that B, A? [22:44:44] TimStarling: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16308 [22:45:07] ok, you can be #2 after CentralNotice [22:45:14] All right. [22:50:56] <^demon> omg shell client for G1 :) [23:00:03] !sitemap [23:00:03] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "sitemap". [23:00:06] !map [23:00:06] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "map". You might try: !imagemap !rewriteproblems [23:00:22] Whatcha looking for? [23:00:51] MZMcBride, making a Google Sitemap, I see that there's a maintenance script to do it [23:26:25] 03tstarling * r43398 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: Language object cache, for faster wfMsg() performance with unusual languages, and hopefully less memory. Committing for test on server. [23:33:51] hm. how can i "break out" of a section? if i have "= Foo =\nBla bla\n== Bar ==\nBla" and then want to type some more text on = Foo ='s level, how do i do? (i'm using the IndentSections extension) [23:34:32] anything i type always ends up in the last typed section title's level. [23:34:44] <_mary_kate_> that made sense until 'indentsections', which i've never heard of, and therefore don't know the answer [23:35:55] okay. it's an extension for making sections indented based on their level (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:IndentSections). [23:36:35] estan: even with normal sections, I don't think you can. Sections treat everything between the section header and the next section header (or the end of the page) as belonging to that section, you'd just have to create a new section [23:36:44] but even if i wasn't using that extension, mediawiki does have some sense of what "level" paragraphs are in right, e.g. which section title they belong under? [23:37:30] <_mary_kate_> you can't 'exit' a section except by creating a new one [23:37:40] <_mary_kate_> there's no way to go up to the previous section [23:37:50] err, I should have said: the next section header of a section with a level greater than or equal to the current one [23:37:53] ok :( [23:39:34] so this is not possible in any way; http://dose.se/level.txt ? [23:39:50] <_mary_kate_> correct [23:40:22] <_mary_kate_> you can't do that in html either, so.. [23:41:22] _mary_kate_: that's true.. [23:42:09] Hello! The footnote styles just suddenly changed over the last half hour on WP. Does anyone know what is going on there? I hope this is not somehow (adversely) related with any of the stuff I have been doing with cite.php recently. [23:42:47] Is this perhaps a decision to set the WP style to the default MW style? [23:42:56] Or is it a mistake? [23:43:08] it's just that i'd _really_ like to do this :( i have a section which is for some installation instructions, it starts off with some opening words about installation, followed by subsections for different platforms, then i would like to end with some closing words. [23:43:24] anyway, i guess i'm out of luck. thanks anyway. [23:43:45] (http://libxml2wiki.dose.se/The_libxml2_Library is the wiki btw). [23:47:15] In fact, I have been messing around with my styles a bit. Could someone perhaps confirm for me that the symbols in the references at the bottom have indeed changed from ^ to ↑? [23:49:07] Kan8eDie: where? [23:49:46] On the main WP. [23:51:05] no, I still see carets [23:52:28] Edit a page and press 'preview' (no need to save the edit) to force the cache to update, and you should see it. I have been editing for the past hour, and I am convinced it happened just in the last few minutes. [23:53:30] no [23:53:47] no, pressing preview will probably not fix it. [23:53:48] but Tim just reverted something on the live site, I think [23:54:52] Yes. It has just gone back to normal since I last posted here. [23:56:16] Oh well. Excitement of the last five minutes over for me.