[00:04:48] Ha! Ironically, even after reloading the page, [[Citation]] seems to have the temporary ↑ stuck in the cache. [00:11:23] 03tstarling * r43399 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: Fixed fallback feature broken by r43398. [00:18:56] <[X]> Is there a developer available to review th code of an extension? The extension is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmergencyDeSysop, but the code itself is at http://tinyurl.com/5gusoc [00:24:00] 03(mod) Recent Hooks.php rewrite breaks onEventname hook functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313 (10bertrand.grondin) [00:29:31] 03soxred93 * r43400 10/trunk/extensions/EmergencyDeSysop/ (6 files): Add EmergencyDeSysop extension to SVN repo [00:30:21] hm. is there no way to customize the print CSS per-skin? i see that mediawikie generates a that references only skins/common/commonPrint.css [00:30:32] *mediawiki. [00:31:54] *Simetrical argues on www-style about @font-face encoding [00:31:59] Go bare font files! [00:32:18] I am toying with more references stuff on my local setup. I am currently faffing with a way to get references to reference other references. Would anyone actually find this useful? [00:32:19] is someone crawling Special:ExtensionDistributor? [00:32:39] I know I would, but then I am a bit obsessed with footnotes. [00:33:08] the reason i'm asking is because i'd like to decrease the font size in the printable version of pages, but only in this one particular skin that i have where the font size is pretty big. [00:33:15] whoever it is, please stop it [00:33:56] Kan8eDie: references within the same page? [00:34:38] hey davidmccabe [00:35:05] Yes. It takes a bit of delicacy to make it impossible to do infinite recursion. [00:35:45] There are plenty of clamours from the BibTeX crowd and others to allow footnotes to make references as well. [00:35:57] It is possible, but takes some care. [00:36:08] 03(FIXED) Special:ExtensionDistributor not Working on Mediawiki wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16308 +comment (10tstarling) [00:36:47] ah i can mess around with the in the skin, good good. nevermind then. [00:38:27] you can sort of do that with {{#tag:}} [00:38:43] {{#tag:ref|Ref text {{#tag:ref|Text {{#tag:ref|more text}} }} }} [00:39:44] which gives you something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mr.Z-man/Sandbox [00:40:37] 03simetrical * r43401 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/templates/Userlogin.php): [00:40:37] Fix for 43393: use normal MW id convention [00:40:37] id's and classes should start with "mw-" and delimit words with [00:40:37] hyphens. [00:40:46] 03simetrical * r43402 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: RELEASE-NOTES cleanup (79 chars, etc.) [00:42:03] hm. from a skin, what's the correct way to get the /right/path/to/skin/dir ? i mean not the fs path but the web accessible one, to put after $IP. [00:42:18] $wgStylePath [00:42:29] I think... [00:43:40] ok. [00:43:44] $wgStylePath = false; ///< defaults to "{$wgScriptPath}/skins" [00:44:46] http://pastie.textmate.org/private/m1qmiegmc4bb1jvhx3aww [00:44:54] Any guess why my MW can't send mail? [00:44:54] werdna: okay. then i can combine that with $skin->skinname, thanks. [00:45:52] ah wait, now i see $this->text('stylepath') ?>/text('stylename') is how e.g. monobook does it. [00:48:14] davidmccabe: Looks like your ISP blocks it. [00:48:24] *werdna cleverly spills coffee on his keyboard. [00:48:34] ack [00:48:48] So, how do I test my new UserMailer? [00:48:49] Can someone add some padding or margin above the central notice? it's really bugging me :P [00:49:13] or at least get rid of the horiz margin/padding :P [00:50:54] davidmccabe try with smtps [00:51:14] davidmccabe, get a server? [00:51:24] MrZ-man I had thought of that, and have spent a couple of minutes tying to get it to work, but the model is unfortunately just wrong [00:51:47] I don't think it really has many potential uses [00:51:52] Essentially, the #tag word starts a parser, which works from the inside out [00:52:08] For numbering to work, we have to recurse from outside in [00:57:10] MrZ-man My test case is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kan8eDie/sandbox. Note the numbering is wrong. I have worked out a way of fixing this relatively easily, so that standard nested tags can be used too. [01:04:13] I'm introducing MW into a group of wiki-newbies, and letting them run wild while I monitor and teach them. Is there some way to automatically turn on watches on every page, new ones included? [01:05:16] hello [01:05:54] i've a question related to linking in wiki page [01:06:00] werdna: ^ [01:06:35] i want to put a link to be opened in a new window , not in the wiki page... [01:06:53] i read the linking page but found nothing [01:07:57] NoNSTOP: Not that I know of. [01:08:49] -_- [01:10:58] Charitwo: hmm? [01:11:03] oh, Skizzerz [01:11:11] ? [01:11:12] Skizzerz: around? [01:11:19] yeah [01:11:26] I'e been asked to allow namespaces to be managed on-wiki... [01:11:37] *Skizzerz is still working on that [01:12:17] anyone can help to allow me to make a link open in a new window ? [01:12:48] Skizzerz: I notice there's a branch you wrote for it on svn, but it's about two years old. [01:12:58] *Skizzerz didn't write that branch :) [01:13:04] I'm just re-writing it to make it fail less [01:13:06] oh, Erik wrote it? [01:13:22] idk who wrote it [01:13:29] Are you still working on it now? [01:13:52] I took a short hiatus from it, but yeah, I'm still working on it [01:14:01] see [[MediaWiki roadmap]] [01:14:21] It looks like it's branched from a two-year-old trunk, and doesn't work with the configuration backend I've written. [01:14:42] I'm re-writing the vast majority of it (including the backend) [01:15:01] the only thing that's staying somewhat similar is the functionality and UI [01:15:10] So, re the broken numbering at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kan8eDie/sandbox, is there any chance of this code being used if I fix it up? In other words, should I bother continuing work on it. It would be a not-too taxing ~100 line patch. [01:15:54] I think I'll need to have a word with Brion. [01:15:58] ok [01:16:07] I did mention that it was assigned to you on the roadmap, and I certainly don't want to steamroll your work. [01:16:24] But my project schedule talks about on-wiki configuration, including logo, namespaces and group rights. [01:16:40] and logo + group rights is already written ;) [01:18:15] We may be able to negotiate some arrangement where we both work on it. [01:18:47] The problem from Brion's perspective, I suppose, is that you're a volunteer, so he can't say "Can you have this done for me by next Friday?" [01:20:55] Skizzerz: will you be online about 2-4 hours ago tomorrow? [01:21:04] yeah [01:21:33] okay, well Brion should be online at that time. We can figure out what to do then. [01:21:41] if you feel like helping out, then I'd love it :) [01:22:09] esp. with backend stuff since I suck at query optimization & the like [01:22:12] I'd feel bad being paid for the work you do on namespaces, though. [01:22:19] Well, actually, I already have a configuration backend. [01:22:36] still no answer!! [01:22:45] basically, you can override the configuration globals in the configuration table [01:22:51] NoNSTOP: javascript [01:22:59] and the SiteConfiguration/ConfigurationCache object grabs it all in one go, and caches it in memcached. [01:23:08] hmm, interesting [01:23:12] Skizzerz: can u provide me a sample ? [01:23:31] google is your friend [01:23:41] and I belive it's detailed on either meta or mediawiki.org as well [01:23:42] what i have to search for ? [01:23:45] Skizzerz: do you work for Wikia? [01:23:59] werdna: no, and nor would I ever want to [01:24:21] i searched in mediawiki.org about opening a link in new window , i found nothing [01:24:29] okay, I just saw it in your hostmask :) [01:24:32] yeah [01:24:34] NoNSTOP: I think you can do that [01:24:38] !popup [01:24:38] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "popup". [01:24:42] !target [01:24:42] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "target". [01:24:42] :P [01:24:46] @botbrain [01:24:47] @search blank [01:24:47] --mwbot-- Results: [blankpage] [01:24:50] hmm... [01:24:57] !botbrain [01:24:57] --mwbot-- http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html [01:25:12] NoNSTOP: basically you need to search for the links and append target="_blank" to them [01:25:40] mask appears in the page , [01:26:20] there's a config setting for it. [01:26:21] I'm sure [01:26:40] and i'm not the admin [01:26:45] i'm a sysop [01:26:46] @dump [01:27:35] 03aaron * r43403 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Suppress index link if no term given [01:28:46] *Kan8eDie is about to go to bed, and has decided not to review his code into a patch: no-one would end up using it, lovely though it is... [01:29:27] TimStarling: what are some shell requests I could make doable on-wiki? Brion's asked me to do on-wiki configuration stuff, and specified namespaces, logo and group rights. Logo and group rights are finished in a branch, and as you see above I want to talk to him about namespaces. [01:30:19] I looked through bugzilla and those three seemed to be the main shell requests (plus extension installation) [01:30:34] have you reviewed the existing extensions? [01:30:44] I'd rather not have another extension if there are already two that do the job just fine [01:31:02] Configure and ConfigureWMF?> [01:31:12] the stuff I've done is core. [01:31:26] it doesn't matter what it's called if it doesn't exist [01:31:58] I don't understand you there. [01:32:41] ah, well ConfigureWMF can probably be deleted [01:32:53] then it won't exist and what I said will make sense [01:33:01] Heh [01:33:19] because I think the wikia extension will probably be good enough [01:33:31] Configure? [01:34:42] Isn't that Ialex's? [01:34:51] yeah [01:34:59] apparently it might not be public [01:35:26] I'm not sure that this sort of stuff needs to be in an extension. [01:35:41] MediaWiki itself should be configurable via the web interface, by and large. [01:36:32] I've already written a backend flexible enough to replace all configuration file editing besides database and memcached with settings in a database. [01:36:39] I just need to write front-ends for various individual settings. [01:37:18] Did you look at the extension ialex has been maintaining for . . . quite a while now? [01:37:29] I told him it should be in core. [01:37:43] I did have a look at it, but it looked like it stored everything in the filesystem. [01:38:16] He told me this morning that it also had a DB configuration option, which means it may be worth porting some of it back into core. [01:38:54] if it's not public, I'm sure we'll easily be able to get it [01:39:04] the Configure extension is public. [01:40:00] you can't use memcached [01:40:05] Why not? [01:40:08] it's too slow [01:40:25] you'll need to use local files [01:40:26] A filesystem *cache* would work, I suppose, but would be difficult to purge. [01:40:39] that's how we cache the configuration currently [01:40:42] using local files [01:40:54] I don't want a ton more code to review [01:41:32] Yes, indeed - but your configuration is purged by a global sync, which I don't imagine can be triggered from inside MediaWiki. [01:41:38] no it isn't [01:41:59] it's harder to read code than it is to write it [01:42:26] which perhaps is why you don't know how any of the current systems work and you're writing a new one which will no doubt have its own set of shortcomings [01:42:51] but spare a thought for a) the users, and b) the reviewers [01:43:39] werdna: configuring import sources [01:43:41] So you think I should go over the Configure extension and try to understand how it works, and if it needs any improvement. [01:43:44] https://wikia-code.com/wikia/trunk/extensions/wikia/WikiFactory/ [01:43:52] or that one. [01:46:34] there's also Farmer [01:49:09] if, after reviewing all these extensions (there's probably more), there's still a case for writing a new one rather than expanding one of the current ones, then so be it [01:50:15] but due diligence here really requires a review [01:51:51] Is it possible to set an article's categorie(s) based on the values of template variables? [01:53:01] squingynaut: {{#if:{{{1|}}}|[[Category:{{{1}}} articles]]}} [01:53:14] (Yes; ParserFunctions help.) [01:53:49] 03aaron * r43404 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Add valign="top" [01:55:43] 03(NEW) Tags like are needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16316 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (will.pittenger1+wikibugzilla) [01:56:26] 03aaron * r43405 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Fix link for images [01:56:49] Pathoschild: Thanks! Haha, I was an idiot and was putting the #if inside my noinclude instead of my includeonly by mistake >_< [01:56:50] So, for offline editing, are there other options besides mws? Or, does anybody know of any scripts to make sure all files of my mediawiki instance are local? [01:56:50] 03(mod) Upload: add Access-Control-Allow-Origin header to responses. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16270 +comment (10tstarling) [01:57:31] squingynaut: :) [01:58:50] err I meant mvs ^^ [02:13:09] 03(mod) Message bar for changes to userspace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13985 (10mikelifeguard) [02:13:34] 03aaron * r43406 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: 'advanced' link consistency [02:13:54] 03(mod) "(last change)" in new messages box should link to combined diff of all changes since last visit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12701 (10mikelifeguard) [02:31:42] TimStarling: actually, ialex's extension does look reasonably good (in particular, the interface is a lot more polished than mine would be). It does need filesystem caching (uses memcached/db, as I wanted to), and maybe a brief summary of what each setting actually does would be useful (with some hand-holding on some of the common settings like the logo). [02:32:09] I'll tell brion what you said, and what I saw in the Configure extension, when I catch up with him tomorrow. [02:32:09] *Mike_lifeguard sees werdna picked up "hand-holding" from my lexicon :DD [02:36:00] 03(mod) Show "You have new messages on your user or user_talk page" -- i .e. both pages are notified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1876 (10N/A) [02:46:01] on user? what would that be... "You have new vandalism" ? [02:46:38] is there a way to do a list without bullets? [02:46:49] bullets or numbers? [02:47:09]
  • unbulleted one
    • ...
works. [02:47:41] Or you could wrap a list with
, and add that CSS to Common.css. [02:48:55] nice [02:49:03] that makes sense... why diddn't I think of that? [02:51:45] ul.nobullet { list-style-type:none; } will affect
    only right? [02:53:55] nope =/ [03:00:35] even doing it quoting the way you diddn't work for some reason [03:01:03] I think I just need to settle in with these bullet points [03:09:39] Kassah: well, why have a list if not for the bullets? [03:09:49] without bullets or numbers, a list is basically generic indented block elements [03:09:58] try : (dl/dd) [03:10:06] k [03:10:12] :foo [03:10:13] :bar [03:10:17] well the other option is putting
    at the end [03:10:31] you could have an unstyled 
    [03:11:13] 	I use bolds in it =/
[03:11:25] 	
    [03:11:27] 	ahh
[03:11:50] 	the  : one worked tho
[03:11:57] 	a little extra indent... but that's okay
[03:12:41] 	this is muuuch better thanks!
[03:24:40] 	siebrand, I'm using your Google AdSense extension, and it's not working in some skins. Do you know if the skins need to use something special to make it work?
[03:37:48] 	The parking system in Westfield needs some serious usability work
[03:38:40] 	Putting in the ticket upside-down makes the system say "You are not permitted to exit"
[03:43:40] 	werdna, what happens after it says that? ninjas drop from the ceiling and block you from going in? ;-)
[03:44:14] 	out*
[03:46:03] 	HTML table markup will work in our wikis, right?
[03:49:43] 	yeah
[03:49:55] 	provided it doesn't have onclicks and fun stuff like that, of course.
[04:06:11] 	hiya. how do i allow people to upload images to my wiki?
[04:06:28] 	!upload
[04:06:28] --mwbot--	File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true to enable it. See  for configuration details,  and  for using uploaded images and other files.
[04:07:49] 	03(mod) rollback link for a page move should revert the move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4433  (10mikelifeguard)
[04:08:27] *Mike_lifeguard 	hopes some bored coder will fix that like... now :D
[04:11:32] 	hmm. now that file uploading is allowed, i simply need to figure out how to allow various file extensions
[04:12:27] 	it's on one of those pages.
[04:12:34] 	!wg AllowedExtensions
[04:12:34] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAllowedExtensions
[04:12:35] 	maybe
[04:30:44] 	!wg FileExtensions | RingtailedFox 
[04:30:44] --mwbot--	RingtailedFox: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgFileExtensions
[04:42:40] 	thanks
[04:47:34] 	i was testing an upload with an svg, and i found something concerning: http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Image:Template-info.svg
[05:55:08] 	Hello all, any help will be greatly appreciated.  I have one wiki(not yet costomized) and another wiki that my CIO gave me to copy(from a business partner).  I am pretty sure it does not have anything to do with extentions because non appear to be loaded. My first I idea was to copy the entire skin directory and hope for the best.  The formatting element that I was working toward is evident (shading behind the titles) but it sames to have bro
[06:08:58] 	03(mod) CentralAuth global session not including wikipecies, incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14407  +comment (10wing.philopp)
[06:41:32] 	I hope this is the correct channel, anyway, I was wondering how one might enable the user creation log on one's wiki, I have yet to find an extension for doing so, so I do not believe that is the case, and if it isn't that, then what is it?
[07:24:45] 	03(mod) Some table nav classes don' t seem to render properly in archive pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11989  +comment (10ekompute)
[07:35:08] <_wooz>	lo
[07:56:49] 	03dale * r43407 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/ (mv_embed/mv_embed.js mv_stream.js): fixed thumbnail restore
[09:04:05] 	03dale * r43408 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/ (3 files in 3 dirs): exposes flowplayer fullscreen (other minor js tweeks)
[09:34:37] 	hi
[09:35:22] 	some links are in red but the pages does exist
[09:35:55] 	i mean, they are shown as not existant but when you click them you can edit the actual page
[09:36:13] 	how could I fix that?
[09:37:12] 	refresh ..
[09:43:07] 	it doesn't work...
[09:43:28] 	well they aren't links per se
[09:43:35] 	they are includes 
[09:43:41] 	like: {{namespace:page}}
[09:45:36] 	there, for example: http://www.frikipedia.es/friki/Portal:Biolog%C3%ADa
[09:49:58] 	Hi, I have a local copy of the french wikipedia, and I'd like to load images from both wikimedia commons and french wikipedia repository
[09:51:23] 	First, for wikimedia commons, I added the code about wgForeignFileRepos ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos#Using_files_from_Wikimedia_Commons_:_ForeignAPIRepo ) but none images seem to be loaded
[09:52:50] 	I have mediawiki 1.13.2 (just upgraded from 1.12) and php 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3
[09:53:27] 	I started by downloading images on my harddrive using wikix, but many images are missing
[09:53:59] 	do I have to delete the content of the table image for mediawiki to search directly on the web ?
[10:07:14] 	03(NEW) source tag error shows invalid example in german error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16317 minor; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (bugreporter)
[10:24:54] 	Hey
[10:24:56] 	O.O
[10:25:10] 	ive got a question
[10:25:20] 	can some1 help...
[10:25:44] 	:(
[10:26:25] 	is any1 here?
[10:27:10] 	...
[10:27:33] 	...
[10:34:29] 	re
[10:35:09] 	are there known bugs with garbled-parser output in the latest revisions of http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki ?
[10:37:12] 	or maybe some mySQL problems? There seems to be lots of text truncated/cut-out of the page-source, so the parser shows gibberish
[10:38:25] 	strangely, if I edit a garbled page, the preview comes out ok... if I save it again -> garbage
[10:39:13] 	i updated from an older revision (about 3-4 weeks old) after this came up... since then I ran update.php which worked ok but didn't help
[10:39:30] 	if I can supply debug-info, highlight me
[10:42:26] 	ah, almost all garbled-pages have "{{{{TENAME}}}}" as title which is the most obvious symptom... the "SI" is cut-out
[10:43:26] 	Quick question , can u somehow build a user rights management sorta system within wikimedia directly or would this only work with a workaround, or not at all :P
[10:44:04] 	oNyxia: there are extensions for that...
[10:44:15] 	thank u dear god :)
[10:44:22] 	could ya send me an link
[10:44:23] 	O.O
[10:44:24] 	oNyxia: check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:All_extensions
[10:44:29] 	thx a lot
[10:44:33] 	oNyxia: and use google! :)
[10:44:46] 	can I somehow purge all pages at once?
[10:45:02] 	after running update.php that seems to help...
[10:45:55] 	ah... found it on google :-P
[10:46:32] 	does action=purge on an image regenerate thumbs ?
[10:47:23] 	rigid: could u filter out a particular extension because i cant seem 2 find the right one
[10:47:47] 	oNyxia: use the categories
[10:48:53] 	anyone knows why does this happen? http://www.frikipedia.es/friki/Portal:Deportes
[10:49:15] 	there are red links, but there's content on them
[10:49:30] 	how do I fix that?
[10:50:07] 	Krs: did you change your char-encoding recently? looks like that
[10:50:43] 	Krs: I purged your page
[10:51:08] 	nope, but i made a new namespace
[10:51:22] 	thomasV how do you did that?
[10:51:33] 	Krs: touch your "LocalSettings.php", then all pages will get purged... or google for "purge all pages"
[10:51:35] 	http://www.frikipedia.es/friki/Portal:Deportes?action=purge
[10:51:37] 	it's in the faq
[10:51:43] 	thanks :D
[10:51:46] 	sorry about that
[10:51:50] 	Hi, I have a local copy of the french wikipedia, and I'd like to load images from both wikimedia commons and french wikipedia repository
[10:51:56] 	First, for wikimedia commons, I added the code about wgForeignFileRepos ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos#Using_files_from_Wikimedia_Commons_:_ForeignAPIRepo ) but none images seem to be loaded
[10:51:58] 	Krs: np, you're welcome
[10:52:03] 	I have mediawiki 1.13.2 (just upgraded from 1.12) and php 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3
[10:52:10] 	I started by downloading images on my harddrive using wikix, but many images are missing
[10:52:15] 	do I have to delete the content of the table image for mediawiki to search directly on the web ?
[10:52:28] 	or did I miss something else ?
[10:57:18] 	Morning all. Could someone give me some pointers re a bug?
[10:57:21] 	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311
[10:57:52] 	I've no idea of the etiquette here, but it's something that seems like a nice addition. What should my next steps be?
[11:15:23] 	03(mod) Read restriction support - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12251  +comment (10chantepie)
[11:16:49] *werdna 	waves
[11:17:35] *Prom_cat 	waves bac....again
[11:20:11] 	werdna, wondering if you can help me with something. you know the limit on the number of accounts can be created for an ip, right? is there a way to cancel that limit for a certain ip?
[11:20:41] 	Jhs: not for a certain IP, but you can have a user account bypass the limit.
[11:20:51] 	ok
[11:20:53] 	what are you trying to achieve?
[11:20:58] 	Wikipedia Academy!
[11:21:00] 	in Lund
[11:21:20] 	ooh, sounds fun.
[11:21:25] 	aye
[11:21:31] 	You should have the accounts precreated by a bot or something.
[11:22:10] 	i'll create them using my account
[11:42:41] 	is there a mw-variable i can use to show when a page was last modified? {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} updates even though i would not save a new revision
[11:59:06] 	03grondin * r43409 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
[11:59:06] 	* adding EmergencyDeSysop into Translation extension features
[11:59:06] 	* fixing variable array in Emergency DeSysop alias file
[11:59:06] 	* adding alias link into EmergencyDeSysop extension main file
[12:44:50] 	Hello
[12:45:02] 	is there someway to export/import, copy or clone a wiki?
[12:46:19] 	!backup | phet 
[12:46:19] --mwbot--	phet: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki
[13:19:12] 	werdna, cool!
[13:21:22] 	03(NEW) PHP warning on SortPermissions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16318 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: GroupPermissionsManager; (michi)
[13:25:20] 	reading that said by wikibugs, can anyone point me to some manual in order to have a multi user wikipedia but with different groups of users, none of them can write on other group pages?
[13:40:56] 	hi
[13:41:09] 	can i create categorys under another categorie in the wiki?
[13:41:32] 	maybe i have :Kategorie:vServer and want to create :Kategorie:vServer:Images?
[14:03:09] 	03(mod) Recent Hooks.php rewrite breaks onEventname hook functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313  (10b-jorsch)
[14:04:57] 	03(mod) PHP warning on SortPermissions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16318   +need-review +patch (10raimond.spekking)
[14:05:06] 	03dale * r43410 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/mv_embed.js: hot fix init_mv_embed error
[14:07:59] 	03(mod) Recent Hooks.php rewrite breaks onEventname hook functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313  (10b-jorsch)
[14:09:46] 	03grondin * r43411 10/trunk/extensions/EmergencyDeSysop/EmergencyDeSysop.alias.php: Adding french aliases from Betawiki
[14:30:46] 	03soxred93 * r43412 10/trunk/extensions/GroupPermissionsManager/SortPermissions.php: (bug 16318) Check if $wgScriptPath is empty before strposing.
[14:30:54] 	03(FIXED) PHP warning on SortPermissions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16318  +comment (10soxred93)
[14:35:14] 	03simetrical * r43413 10/trunk/extensions/EmergencyDeSysop/EmergencyDeSysop.i18n.php: 
[14:35:14] 	Avoid jargon in extension descriptions
[14:35:14] 	Describing sysop privileges as a "bit" isn't even correct. It's stored
[14:35:14] 	as a row. :)
[14:39:28] 	s/bit/flag/ :P
[14:39:48] 	03(NEW) Set article autopatrol for user group rollbackers on svwiki. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16319 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (barracudas)
[14:42:04] 	03(mod) Set article autopatrol for user group rollbackers on svwiki. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16319   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[14:42:34] 	03(mod) PHP warning on SortPermissions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16318  (10N/A)
[14:43:13] 	03(mod) PHP warning on SortPermissions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16318  (10N/A)
[14:47:04] 	Hey all, has anyone else encountered this error when trying to upgrade to MediaWiki 1.13.2: "MySQL returned error '1030: Got error 28 from storage engine (storageEngine)'"
[15:01:36] 	Where is session data stored in a default install of mediawiki?
[15:03:28] 	eghjaytee: /home/wiki/data
[15:08:42] 	JMcIvor: I am not seeing anything, and I have no data directory. Is there a way to determine where session data is stored on a specific instance?
[15:08:55] 	eghjaytee: which session data?
[15:09:44] 	cirwin: whatever is created by wfSetupSession();
[15:10:00] 	this would be for non-signed in users
[15:11:57] <_mary_kate_>	eghjaytee: session data is stored by php, not mediawiki
[15:12:50] 	ok thank you
[15:22:38] 	Hi, I'd like to allow the loding of images directly from wikimedia commons
[15:22:56] 	I added the code about wgForeignFileRepos ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos#Using_files_from_Wikimedia_Commons_:_ForeignAPIRepo ) but none images seem to be loaded
[15:23:39] 	I have already imported most of images thanks to wikix, but I'd like to load every images from wikimedia commons
[15:24:00] 	maybe the image table needs to be cleaned up ?
[15:32:41] 	nobody's inspired ? :)
[15:34:21] 	03(mod) patrol function assigned to all users, not autoconfirmed users, on nlwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16289  (10Sterkebak)
[15:38:19] 	03(mod) patrol function assigned to all users, not autoconfirmed users, on nlwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16289  (10Sterkebak)
[16:13:14] 	Hi All
[16:14:46] 	I do install the mediawiki in my server, Now, I need install the tinymce editor support. I was install the necessary packages, but, now, when I access my wiki I receive the error: Call to undefined method Parser::stripToc()  in /var/www/www.ksys.com.br/htdocs/wiki/extensions/TinyMCE_MW.php on line 257 ... Anybody can help me ?
[16:15:35] 	are you using the right version?
[16:15:45] 	StripToc is part of the old parser
[16:16:25] 	cirwin: well, I upgrade the 1.10 version to 1.13
[16:16:51] 	you need a more modern tinymce it sounds like
[16:17:18] 	cirwin: sorry ?
[16:18:10] 	TinyMCE is trying to use the Old parser
[16:18:17] 	if there a more modern tinymce you can download?
[16:18:36] 	cirwin: not, i'm using the last version of the tinymce
[16:18:42] 	I dunno then
[16:19:34] 	cirwin: ok :P
[16:19:42] 	cirwin: thanks
[16:21:59] 	damn
[16:22:08] 	i need to create a page under a category
[16:22:18] 	what's the rss link on a mediawiki ?
[16:22:32] 	but when i visit the page the link is http://wiki.mydomain.mytld/wiki/nameofthepage
[16:22:38] 	the category name is not in the link
[16:22:40] 	is it normal?
[16:23:28] 	Wachert: can you link to the actual page?
[16:23:41] 	I'm not sure what you mean by "create under a category"
[16:23:54] 	to put a page in a category just put [[Category:MyCategory]] into that page
[16:23:58] 	http://wiki.netcup.de/wiki/Testseite
[16:24:15] 	the page is in the category that works
[16:24:29] 	yup
[16:24:34] 	raaaaah
[16:24:43] 	which link are you talking about then?
[16:24:52] 	me ?
[16:25:20] 	i thought, when a page is in a category the links changes to something like httP://wiki.mydomain.mytld/wiki/categoryname_pagename or so
[16:25:26] 	no
[16:25:44] 	hm...
[16:25:50] 	otherwise you could only put pages in one category
[16:25:53] 	so i cant have 2 pages with the same title?
[16:25:58] 	no
[16:26:04] 	though you can create your own structure
[16:26:16] 	dammit
[16:26:20] 	and use Folders/pages 
[16:26:23] 	in the titles
[16:26:36] 	or (like wikipedia) [[Page (specific)]]
[16:26:37] 	then i have to change the pagetitle with a syntax
[16:26:46] 	which was it
[16:26:55] 	[[Page pagename]]?
[16:26:55] 	{{DISPLAYTITLE:___}}
[16:27:01] 	hmm?
[16:28:19] 	hm when i try {{DISPLAYTITLE:lalala}} nothing happens
[16:30:54] 	no
[16:31:01] 	you need to enable the unchecked version
[16:31:08] 	can't remember which parameter it is
[16:31:45] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictDisplayTitle
[16:38:13] 	where I found about changes in the database of the MediaWiki 1.11 to 1.13 update ?
[16:40:54] 	I found the page :)
[16:41:01] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading_MediaWiki
[16:42:19] 	03(NEW) Central notice field names cannot contain national characters - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16320 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (mormegil)
[16:45:19] 	when is the next stable release going to come out for mediawiki?
[16:45:33] 	or can someone point me to a location where the answer is
[16:50:47] 	03(NEW) Special: NoticeTemplate does not work if the content language is not English - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16321 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (mormegil)
[16:54:02] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page
[16:54:10] 	i want my links the same way as there
[16:54:23] 	http:/..../categoryname:nameofthepage
[16:54:29] 	how can i realise thisd?
[17:01:09] 	just create the page at that title
[17:01:44] 	create a page with title categoryname:nameofthepage?
[17:01:52] 	yup
[17:02:07] 	http://wiki.netcup.de/wiki/Something:Else
[17:02:58] 	hm
[17:03:41] 	k
[17:03:54] 	does anyone have a hint of extensions or ways to replace the normal talkpage with a page which would be stripped from a phpbb/similar forum software thread
[17:04:18] 	i.e. a forum software is bind to mediawiki in such way that every article page has a corresponding bb-thread page which is shown and can be accessed via the talk page
[17:04:40] 	piksi: why on earth would you want to do that? :p
[17:05:32] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Discussion_and_forum_extensions
[17:05:51] 	cirwin: because many users are finding the normal talk page format unintuitive and i'm not the only one who agrees that especially new users have trouble with it. besides. the normal talk page format is far from perfect itself and requires archiving bots and such automation anyway as the talk pages grow in length
[17:06:07] 	cirwin: many people don't even know how to indent and sign their comments and thus create utterly confusing talkpage threads
[17:06:08] 	I suppose so
[17:06:24] 	it's just that forums feel so limited after the power of a blank slate :)
[17:06:34] 	anyway, that link should set you up
[17:06:45] 	thanks
[17:11:07] 	damn
[17:11:17] 	cant find a manual how to use extern images
[17:12:20] 	Wachert: [http://example.com/someImage.jpg Description text]
[17:12:39] 	and this shows the pic? or just a link?
[17:12:59] 	the picture, if $wgAllowExternalImages is true
[17:13:22] 	hello brion
[17:13:28] 	morning everybody
[17:15:07] 	good evening
[17:15:30] 	hm
[17:15:44] 	i typed $wgAllowExternalImages = true; in the LocalSettings
[17:15:50] 	but the image isnt shown
[17:15:59] 	ah
[17:16:03] 	just typed the link
[17:16:09] 	and not [link text]
[17:16:53] 	hm but how can i get the image in a frame?
[17:17:21] 	I have an error in my wiki database: 1146: Table '.protected_titles' doesn't exist (localhost). Can anybody help me please with this? Some of the links on the left side. i.e the Help and Current Events link, don't work. The rest of the wiki seems to work correctly
[17:17:49] 	cmon: did you run the updater when you upgraded, per the instructions?
[17:17:59] 	I maybe due to an upgrade from ubuntu hardy to intrepid
[17:18:48] 	r43398 worked just fine, memory usage dropped from ~4GB to 90MB. Adding rebuildTemplates.php to my crontab on hume, removing it permanently from Brion's on zwinger. 
[17:18:51] 	yay
[17:18:56] 	that's always good news
[17:19:12] 	cmon: is your mediawiki installed as a package (via apt-get) or did you install it yourself?
[17:19:24] 	I ran 'mysql_upgrade' _after_ I noticed that error, not immediately after system upgrade (but that should be done automaticelly). This did not help
[17:19:25] 	if the latter, then an OS update shouldn't have an affect here
[17:19:36] 	yes, via apt-get
[17:20:16] 	well ideally, the package (which we do not control or have any special knowledge of) would take care of the DB updates for you when the package is upgraded, but of course it might not have
[17:20:23] 	is it a problem of upgrade of mediawiki or mysql-server
[17:20:25] 	try running maintenance/update.php directly
[17:20:45] 	mediawiki -- schema updates have apparently not been run
[17:20:59] 	how do you know this?
[17:21:32] 	ok I'll try
[17:22:48] 	i get 'permission denied', even as root
[17:23:03] 	php /path/to/maintenance/update.php
[17:23:23] 	is there no way to get a external image in a frame?
[17:23:53] 	Wachert: not currently built-in, no... you could construct a template to do it, probably
[17:24:03] 	damn
[17:24:05] 	thx
[17:24:22] 	ok thx, I'll try. First have to do sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[17:24:45] 	i hate it when they don't ship the cli version by default :)
[17:24:48] 	at least it's easy to install...
[17:25:43] 	sure :-)
[17:25:44] 	Notice: Undefined property: Language::$mLoaded in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/languages/Language.php on line 2445
[17:25:45] 	Notice: Undefined property: Language::$mCode in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/languages/Language.php on line 2202
[17:25:45] 	Invalid language code requested
[17:25:46] 	hmmm
[17:26:21] 	I now get: No superuser credentials could be found.?
[17:27:00] 	cmon: set up AdminSettings.php (there's a sample file)
[17:28:19] 	ah, right, I just saw that
[17:28:28] 	this file was missing
[17:31:16] 	brion: where do I get the values for $wgDBadminuser and $wgDBadminpassword? Are these the settings for mysql-server?
[17:32:08] 	yes
[17:32:14] 	yeah, your db root or another user you've set up with enough privs to do schema updates and such
[17:34:44] 	03(NEW) Allow maint scripts to accept DB user/ pass over input or params if no AdminSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16322 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (brion)
[17:35:42] 	brion: got it! Thanks! My wiki seems to work correctly again! Thanks a lot! *hug*
[17:37:13] 	:D
[17:37:21] *brion 	stabs mLangObjCache
[17:38:58] 	somehow the language object from the cache is getting borked up
[17:39:38] 	03ialex * r43414 10/trunk/extensions/EmergencyDeSysop/README: svn:eol-style native
[17:45:18] 	aha, something's calling the __destruct() method... but it's not getting unset
[17:46:26] 	Hi
[17:47:32] 	I have a "Fatal error: Allowed memory size exhausted" message (in Parser.php)
[17:48:13] 	it occured since I have upgraded mediawiki from 1.12 to the latest version
[17:48:22] 			$GLOBALS['wgLang']->__destruct();
[17:48:24] 	the christ?
[17:49:33] 	I have put the  ini_set("memory_limit","512M");   to fix the problem I already encountered before, but it's not sufficient anymore
[17:50:21] 	03brion * r43415 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.inc: Avoid destructing the language object, as it corrupts the language object cache, and causes the next test to load a bogus language object and esplode.
[17:50:36] 	brion, did you answered to me or not ?
[17:51:13] 	bloubs: no.
[17:51:34] 	bloubs: if you're hitting memory limit at 512 megabytes, something's probably wrong :)
[17:51:48] 	can you show an example page hitting it?
[17:51:51] 	I know
[17:52:07] 	but I can't figure out what I missed 
[17:52:25] 	Uninstall all extensions to test?
[17:52:25] 	maybe the limit is not taken into account
[17:52:50] 	Install memcached?
[17:52:53] 	bloubs: 1) show a page that exhibits the problem
[17:53:10] 	2) the error message will include the limit that it hit, so you can confirm that by comparing the numbers
[17:53:32] 	hmm
[17:53:45] 	path search in CodeReview isn't letting me search a specific file -- it's appending '/' on the end of the path :(
[17:54:11] 	brion: I have the file LocalSettings.php both in /etc/mediawiki and in /var/lib/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php. Which one is being read?
[17:54:21] 	If you setup xdebug you can get a nice stack trace that'll show you exactly what caused the limit to go over
[17:54:48] 	cmon: no idea :) try breaking one and see which error message you get
[17:54:49] 	dantman: disable extensions has no effect
[17:55:13] 	brion: here is an example : Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 349304 bytes)
[17:55:34] 	20,971,520 <- that's 20 megs
[17:55:47] 	bloubs: edit LocalSettings.php, there's a line near the top that sets your memory_limit to 20M
[17:55:51] 	ok. I am asking because the system upgrade also kicked the mediawiki-logo out.
[17:55:53] 	if I change the value in Parser.php, it doesn't seem to change anything
[17:55:53] 	increase it there or remove it so your php.ini value is used
[17:56:32] 	brion: ok, I see it
[17:56:47] 	which value do you think I have to put ?
[17:57:03] 	in both Parser and LocalSettings
[17:57:15] 	try making it a bit bigger and see what happens
[17:57:17] 	I have no idea about the memory php needs
[17:59:35] 	brion: that's it. Thanks. Now, I can remove the instruction in Parser.php, right ?
[17:59:55] 	grrrrrrr
[18:00:01] 	i deleted * TOOLBOX in my Sidebar
[18:00:09] 	but the toolboy is still there
[18:00:16] 	*box
[18:00:18] 	Of course
[18:00:29] 	why of course?
[18:00:39] 	i deleted the entry...
[18:00:46] 	so it should be not there`?
[18:00:47] 	If it didn't work that way, then everyone with a customized sidebar that upgraded from 1.12 would no longer have a toolbox
[18:01:18] 	i didnt upgrade
[18:01:26] 	Ya, but we have to consider them
[18:01:26] 	i installed it in on monda
[18:01:50] 	And besides, there's no reason to give that kind of ability...
[18:02:03] 	If you don't want the toolbox, use a hook to get rid of it
[18:02:05] 	We do have one
[18:02:08] 	bloubs: should be able to yeah :)
[18:02:18] 	Wachert: there's a default iirc :)
[18:02:28] 	Ohwait...... no I added that one in 1.14
[18:02:51] 	ok, now I have another problem. I'd like to load images from mediawiki commons. I added the piece of code from wgForeignFileRepos manual, but it's not working (images are not loaded)
[18:02:57] 	hm brion?
[18:03:03] 	brion: thanks :)
[18:03:08] 	"svn: Cannot replace a directory from within" <- wtf? :D
[18:03:33] 	What'd you do... sounds sane...
[18:03:37] 	i dont understand why the toolbox is still there when i delete the entry in MediaWiki:Sidebar
[18:03:57] 	maybe the problem comes from the fact I first tried to host all images (copy with wikix and import them in my database) 
[18:03:59] 	Wachert: the toolbox is a standard part of the UI; you can move it around now i think but you can't remove it shy of customizing the skin, or hiding it via css/js
[18:04:25] 	Wachert: Cause that ability is unnecessary, could be abused, and doing it this way makes sure that the system won't break for anyone that did upgrade
[18:05:44] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinBuildSidebar
[18:06:18] 	killed it with css now thxc
[18:06:20] 	-c
[18:06:28] 	03brion * r43416 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Hooks.php: (log message trimmed)
[18:06:28] 	Roll back r43377, r43379 "Factored wfInvokeFancyCallback() out of wfRunHooks(). Allows flexible dynamic invocation to be used in other contexts." / "Renamed the new wfInvokeFancyCallback to simply wfInvoke."
[18:06:28] 	Breaks existing hooks including core language converters:
[18:06:28] 	Notice: Undefined variable: event in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/includes/Hooks.php on line 61
[18:06:29] 	Warning: call_user_func_array(): First argument is expected to be a valid callback, 'ZhConverter::on' was given in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/includes/Hooks.php on line 119
[18:06:32] 	Notice: Undefined variable: args in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/includes/Hooks.php on line 80
[18:06:34] 	Notice: Undefined variable: event in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/includes/Hooks.php on line 61
[18:12:37] 	hi at all
[18:12:40] 	i have a problem
[18:13:01] 	now, after wikimedia was installed,
[18:13:21] 	MEDIAWIKI!
[18:13:28] 	i've recognized
[18:13:30] 	sry
[18:13:56] 	that it is impossible to set keywords for special sites
[18:14:01] 	or is there a possibility?
[18:14:06] 	Interwiki?
[18:14:43] 	?
[18:14:57] 	look here: http://biostudies.de
[18:17:31] 	...
[18:17:59] 	I'm actually busy right now... I'm just paying slight attention and throwing hints
[18:18:10] 	hmm
[18:18:11] 	ok
[18:19:12] 	cu
[18:28:09] 	03soxred93 * r43417 10/trunk/extensions/GroupPermissionsManager/SortPermissions.php: Correct variable
[18:31:38] 	03(FIXED) PHP warning on SortPermissions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16318  +comment (10soxred93)
[18:40:44] 	hi, is there a way (in a table) to require all columns to conform to the size of the image of the biggest cell?  I'm trying to correct this table http://buffalo.nas-central.org/index.php/Template:Kurobox_Variants
[18:55:16] 	03aaron * r43418 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevisionCommitter.php: Add sessionfailure message
[18:57:32] 	03raymond * r43419 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: Add messages for new usergroup per https://wikitech.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Server_admin_log&diff=17411&oldid=17410
[19:07:08] 	anyone know if there is an rss addon that shows newly added pages or an eggdrop bot that does this?
[19:17:08] 	under what circumstances would http://en.wiktionary.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=embeddedin&eifilterredir=redirects ever return anything?
[19:25:17] 	edit toolbar in mediawiki is not showing up.. media wiki 0.12.. THe option in Preference is alredy checked by default
[19:26:10] 	03(FIXED) Recent Hooks.php rewrite breaks onEventname hook functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16313  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[19:32:00] 	metanil: check for JS errors in whatever way your browser reports them? (also, view page source on an edit page, make sure addButton() calls are being performed inside the