[00:01:05] *brion huggles siebrand [00:01:15] *siebrand grins at brion. [00:01:22] the nice thing about betawiki is people translate everything immediately [00:01:32] the bad thing about betawiki is people translate everything before it's finalized :) [00:01:40] xD [00:01:52] brion: and if Aaron commits it again, we still have the translations to put them back in immediately... [00:02:12] yep [00:02:30] BetaWiki is pretty awesome. [00:02:38] I can't imagine anywhere else where you could commit something, and within a week it's in 30-40 languages [00:03:09] Nikerabbit said something recently about possibly implementing translation memory-like funtionality in Translate costing about 10 hours. Now *that* would be awesome. [00:03:10] it's freaky. [00:03:10] The Abuse Filter has been completely translated into languages I've never even heard of. [00:03:22] hehe [00:03:33] we have quite a nice corpus with MediaWiki and extensions. That renders a great translation memory, easing new translations. More output form translators is great. [00:04:47] siebrand: I'm afraid I have a confession to make. [00:05:27] I was pretty surprised though that some translators on the Wikimedia fundraiser stuff hadn't even been at Betawiki - and that their languages had sometimes <5% L10n, so I recruited a few of them. [00:05:27] siebrand: When I commit my last few days' work to Configure tomorrow, I am adding 500 new messages. [00:05:28] werdnum: wtf? [00:05:29] that's a lot of messages :D [00:05:33] siebrand: It's a description for every single configuration variable. [00:05:33] Brion: ping :D [00:05:38] you don't really need to translate them, I guess - stewards speak english [00:05:47] werdnum: kindof extramely sweet, though [00:05:50] MopperHomework: what's up? [00:05:58] Brion: /query plox? [00:06:38] qandrew@gcentral_router:~/mediawiki-extensions/Configure$ cat Configure.settings.i18n.php | wc -l [00:06:38] little busy now [00:06:39] 508 [00:06:39] I see [00:06:40] werdnum: i think that means we will get pretty good l10n of mediawiki config ;) [00:06:45] ok folks, everybody try doing something at test.wikipedia.org and shout if it's broken ;) [00:07:18] 500 messages. damn, that's pretty bad for the stats ;) [00:09:12] Brion: Well, if you could check your talk page later I'd be pleased as punch [00:09:12] werdnum: is that monster to be deployd on wmf wikis? [00:09:12] siebrand: we're hoping to slim it down i think :) [00:09:13] brion: You didn't tell me that yet :) [00:09:13] i can imagine. Using a fork, or with config? [00:09:13] hehe [00:09:13] http://mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Werdna/On-wiki config todo [00:09:14] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Werdna/On-wiki_config_todo [00:09:24] werdnum: btw, i may disable transltion until the messages have been audired and corrected. [00:09:30] audited, even. [00:10:39] siebrand: yeah, that's fine. [00:10:51] some of my descriptions are probably pretty bad [00:10:59] as you'd expect if somebody spent three hours sitting down and writing them :) [00:11:41] brion: btw, any plans for extension auditing some day soon? Some 10 or so extensions waiting for approval to be added to WMF wikis... And usually quality of the extensions goes up after audits by you and/or Tim. [00:12:14] Thyme is the issue. [00:12:38] well, developer capacity has gone up, so let's see if brion can properly delegate :) [00:13:17] *werdnum hides. [00:19:24] Category: Did you know? svn extension messages have risen from 2061 to 5185 since January 2008. Core from 1730 to 2123. [00:22:40] siebrand: no explicit plan on it at the moment, it's part of general code & patch review backlog which we're starting to get sorted out :) [00:23:33] brion: sounds like an excellent plan. [00:23:52] Anyone know how you change the stabilization of a page? [00:24:03] I have a super old installation of Mediawiki -- 1.4.15 -- and I want to upgrade to 1.11.2 [00:24:25] IIRC there's supposed to be a tab to let admins say "This page should always show the most recent version" as an exception to the "show anons the stable version" rule [00:24:47] rhombus: please read UPGRADE carefuly. [00:25:07] I've backed up the database using mysqldump, but the wiki mentions something about dumpBackup.php, calling it a "command-line tool"... it doesn't look like a command-line tool from here... [00:25:12] siebrand: reading... [00:25:18] ! upgrade | rhombus [00:25:24] !upgrade | rhombus [00:25:24] --mwbot-- rhombus: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [00:26:06] siebrand: thanks, much more informative. [00:26:51] starting the scap... [00:28:56] anyone have any ideas of where I should start for making an extension that added extra info to the category page next to page listings? [00:29:14] rhombus: since you are coming from 1.4, I think that you have to do some voodoo to the database dump. Looks like that's not on the wiki page, but in UPGRADE. [00:29:23] scappy dappy doo! [00:29:29] siebrand: argh, voodoo. [00:29:39] rhombus: what language? [00:29:48] if english, pretty good chance you're fine [00:29:51] brion: english [00:29:53] check $wgUseLatin1 setting? [00:30:00] (should be *false* for happy town) [00:30:05] brion: lemme check [00:30:17] brion: that's in LocalSettings.php, right? [00:30:21] yeah [00:30:28] rhombus: and why 1.11.2 (out of support), and not 1.13.2 (latest, greatest!) [00:30:49] brion: $wgUseLatin1 = false; [00:30:53] brion: that good? [00:30:56] yay [00:31:02] siebrand: It's the stable Gentoo package [00:31:10] siebrand: I should use a newer one, then? [00:31:16] rhombus: ok in theory at least the standard updater in the latest MediaWiki release should upgrade your database just fine [00:31:26] rhombus: quite an oldie for stable... [00:31:40] siebrand: that happens occasionally with Gentoo [00:31:43] don't use 1.11, it's old :) [00:31:53] siebrand: I can build with keywords, then I'll get a newer one [00:31:57] hang on while I see [00:32:13] rhombus: I run svn, so I have no idea how to do mediawiki with packages :) [00:32:13] siebrand: 1.13.2 is the newest ebuild availabel [00:32:15] siebrand: 1.13.2 is the newest ebuild available [00:32:27] rhombus: we think you'll love it. [00:32:39] siebrand: haha Sounds good [00:33:03] *siebrand goes zzz... [00:34:41] nini siebrand [00:35:23] *Dantman wonders if he can get a licence to assassinate package maintainers that like to provide bad packages for software which the developers don't want packages of [00:35:37] Hmmm... ^_^ Cutting their internet connections would work to [00:43:12] brion: I'm getting that no superuser access error, even though I have AdminSettings.php in my config directory, and even though I have updated it with the correct information. [00:46:19] oh boy. [00:46:42] I renamed LocalSettings.php and... I'm still getting errors. [00:51:05] o_O [00:51:20] rhombus: you're running maintenance/update.php on command line? [00:51:22] or the web installer [00:51:23] ? [00:51:47] brion: I was running it on the command line. Now I've just started over with a fresh mediawiki directory. Is that safe? [00:51:56] brion: I'm running the setup. [00:54:29] brion: i'm nervous. I hope this isn't going to break anything. [00:54:37] :) [00:54:51] should be safe-ish, though it's always best if you made a backup first! [00:56:06] brion: I did back up the database... [00:56:12] brion: and I made an xml backup also [00:57:01] brion: is it going to recognize the existing database and tables? [00:58:29] rhombus: yes, as long as you give it the same database info [00:58:34] (db name, and table prefix if any) [00:58:37] brion: ok [00:58:59] personally i tend to recommend using the command-line updater if you can, but they'll both do the same thing once they get in [00:59:16] one gotcha sometimes is that your LocalSettings.php might include a full path reference to an old copy of MediaWiki [00:59:24] which tends to confuse attempts to run the command-line updater [01:00:10] hmmm [01:00:52] prepare for the flood.... [01:01:05] brion: maybe that was it [01:01:08] 03werdna * r43513 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/findSettings.php: Spelling in variable name - ingnore to ignore. [01:01:17] brion: but it seems to be working now... it's upgrading the tables [01:01:41] flood? ^_^ I only see a trickle [01:01:49] heh, it had to do a rebase in the middle [01:01:58] there are ~5 commits to send [01:02:03] heh [01:02:15] how do you clear the cache of just a single page? [01:02:22] ?action=purge [01:02:28] thx [01:02:33] 03brion * r43514 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (4 files): Revert r43512 -- I tested it partially but not well enough. Regression breaks revision detail view. :( [01:02:35] there any trick to making that show up as a tab? [01:03:04] There's an extension to do that, you could add it with JS, SMW also adds a refresh tab that does that [01:03:10] rhombus: yay [01:03:16] brion: okay [01:03:26] hmmm... [01:03:36] I compiled PHP with gd support, but mediawiki didn't recognize that, and now I don't have graphics [01:03:46] hmm [01:03:57] *Dantman is starting to think that he should disable his green transparency so that orange-yellow names don't become blinding and impossible to read [01:04:03] brion: or, at least, no thumbnailing [01:04:05] rhombus: double-check it's actually enabled? make a php file with [01:05:09] brion: hmn... wait [01:05:15] brion: images go in a directory [01:05:33] en.wikibooks has just gotten flaggedrevs installed tonight, and I think we found a bug or something with it. Who do we talk to? [01:05:38] or do I post it up on bugzilla? [01:05:39] brion: but as I mentioned, I just copied a new one and did a fresh install. How can I get those images back? [01:06:15] ahhh there we go... gave yellow-orange bit more red [01:06:46] ^_^ Now I can actually tell the difference between rhombus and siebrand [01:07:04] Dantman: yay [01:07:25] before both your names were a bright orange-yellow... [01:07:25] rhombus: move or copy the directory :) [01:07:44] I have transparency set, and it uses the nice green of my desktop [01:07:45] wknight8111: maybe both :) [01:07:47] what sort of problem [01:08:00] ;) Cept that yellow-orange becomes such a blinding color I can't read it [01:08:04] brion: okay, I did that... but still no images? [01:08:05] The new page patroller thing seems to be disabled now because of the flaggedrevs extension [01:08:43] brion: now the images are definitely in the images directory :P [01:08:45] or is that a "feature" instead of a "bug"? [01:08:48] ^_^ It was honestly like siebrand always had a sun behind his name I had to stare at to read [01:10:47] hmm [01:10:54] wknight8111: i'm not really sure how they're supposed to interact [01:11:08] nevermind, I think we found documentation that explains it. Apparently you can't patrol a page in a reviewable namespace [01:11:23] brion: okay, this is odd -- the wiki logo does not appear on the main page, but does appear on dependent pages. [01:16:46] rhombus: probably you've got the main page cachec locally from before it was updated? [01:16:53] brion: yeah [01:16:56] I had to refresh a couple of times [01:17:03] brion: and this is weird [01:17:58] brion: I built php using the gd USE flag in Gentoo, but phpinfo shows "--without-gd" [01:18:33] 03aaron * r43515 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (4 files): Revert r43514 and fix rev detail view. I'm about ready to throw all this subpage param nonsense out the window... [01:19:09] 03werdna * r43516 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/findSettings.php: Revert "Spelling in variable name - ingnore to ignore." for retry of committing everything else. [01:19:11] 03vyznev * r43517 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: make the layout of the namespace checkboxes in powerSearchBox() look nicer [01:19:22] rhombus: did you restart web server since then? [01:19:28] might be old version sitting around [01:19:33] 03werdna * r43518 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: [01:19:33] Abuse Filter: [01:19:33] * Remove some old debugging code. [01:19:36] brion: yeah, I'm trying that now [01:19:46] *rhombus is a dummy. [01:19:49] 03werdna * r43519 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/findSettings.php: Spelling in variable name - ingnore to ignore. [01:19:49] brion: thanks. [01:20:00] 03demon * r43520 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [01:20:00] Revert r41710, r41978, r42012, r42048 (integration of Poem extension to core [01:20:00] plus misc. fixes). Per Wikitech-l, this isn't properly attributed to the [01:20:00] original authors of the extension. Furthermore, "Poem" is entirely too narrow a [01:20:00] name for the functionality this tag provides. If this is to be integrated, a [01:20:02] better name should be chosen. [01:20:08] 03werdna * r43521 10/trunk/extensions/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [01:20:08] Configure extension: [01:20:10] * Write display names for all ~500 settings (ouch) [01:20:12] * Display setting name in parentheses after display name. [01:20:14] * Actuallly allow wikitext in display names. [01:20:16] * Disable some well-deprecated settings, including some whose purpose nobody knows anymore. [01:20:33] holy commit-flood :) [01:20:48] brion: augh [01:21:19] brion: I have a JPEG on the main page. If I log in, the image appears on the main page. [01:21:39] brion: If I am not logged in, a wikilink appears. If I click the wikilink, I see the image. [01:22:04] brion: no amount of refreshing seems to be fixing that. [01:23:15] brion: is r43517 ok? [01:23:52] 03brion * r43522 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiLogout.php: [01:23:52] $oldName parameter to UserLogoutComplete hook call was missing. [01:23:52] Caused this warning (harmless in practice): [01:23:52] PHP Warning: Missing argument 3 for CentralAuthHooks::onUserLogoutComplete() in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthHooks.php on line 217 [01:24:00] rhombus: try ?action=purge [01:24:03] or edit the page [01:24:11] should clear out your old cached render [01:24:14] brion: okay [01:25:06] brion: that fixed it. [01:25:25] yay [01:25:25] brion: For some reason I thought that PHP didn't cache stuff like that. [01:25:35] php doesn't, mediawiki does :) [01:25:44] brion: oh [01:25:45] OH [01:25:59] brion: Hi, Supernintendo Chalmers! I'm LEARNDING. [01:27:54] Thumbs? [01:29:49] :D [01:29:56] ok i'm gonna head home in a few [01:30:02] brion: have a good weekend [01:30:05] 03werdna * r43523 10/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [01:30:05] Configure extension: [01:30:05] * Let users enter an image name for the logo, and then click a button to have it converted to a thumbnail URL. [01:30:18] :D [01:30:23] 03werdna * r43524 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (8 files): [01:30:23] Configure extension: [01:30:23] * Add filesystem and in-process caching. [01:30:23] * Tweak some display, message names. [01:30:24] * Ensure that all data presented on Special:Configure is up-to-date by bypassing cache. [01:30:36] woo, finally I got all of that work from the last few committed [01:30:54] :DD [01:30:55] congrats [01:31:08] i'll give ya some feedback in a bit :D [01:31:10] *Dantman wonders how Brion feels about JavaScript? (not DOM or ECMAscript) [01:31:10] heh, if I was using regular svn... [01:50:57] 03aaron * r43525 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.php: E_STRICT [01:52:43] 03aaron * r43526 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/LqtBaseView.php: E_STRICT - not needed [02:06:04] 03aaron * r43527 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.css: Make toc scroll if long [02:18:34] AaronSchulz: Is it still possible to have certain pages which are flagged show the unstable version to anon users? [02:18:52] As I recall there was a tab to set that on a per-page basis, but I don't see it on enwikibooks [02:19:40] 03aaron * r43528 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (Configure.api.php Configure.func.php Configure.php): [02:19:40] * Avoid messy alternative perm checks. Just use one right [02:19:40] * Some code style tweaks [02:19:40] * Disabled API by default [02:20:34] hey guys im trying to add an image to my mediawiki but each time i ad $wgLogo = "url" [02:20:53] im unable to access the page my home page via the browser? [02:20:56] any suggestions? [02:22:05] AaronSchulz: ooh, my job gets done for me :P [02:22:31] no, I just wanted to have more eyes on it [02:22:40] I'm slightly stupid. How come users can be disabled from editing their talk pages when they are blocked on wikipedia, but the same function isn't extended to the svn repos... [02:22:47] Or is this an extension of some sort [02:23:13] AaronSchulz: Is it still possible to have certain pages which are flagged show the unstable version to anon users? [02:23:13] As I recall there was a tab to set that on a per-page basis, but I don't see it on enwikibooks [02:23:19] That was the "vet" tab, I think? [02:23:27] AaronSchulz: :( [02:23:28] or 'protect' if you have that [02:23:58] sigh, I have to do my job now? [02:24:01] what's the world coming to? [02:24:54] ahh, k [02:24:56] thanks! [02:29:06] *werdnum closes 30-odd firefox tabs [02:33:03] 03aaron * r43529 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.js: Cut down input size to make config column fit better for some extensions (like flaggedrevs) [02:36:05] Need... multiple upload form [02:37:12] !e MultiUpload [02:37:12] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiUpload [02:38:48] fancy [02:40:09] actually, its pretty basic I think, but it should do what you need [02:40:22] 03aaron * r43530 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.js: Revert - wrong item ;) [02:44:55] 03aaron * r43531 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: Set input sizes to make config column fit better for some extensions (like flaggedrevs) [02:45:58] 03(mod) Searches that are complex and/ or ask for a large number of results falsely return 'no results' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16236 (10matthew.britton) [02:48:27] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs review form not shown when diffonly=1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16339 (10matthew.britton) [02:48:54] 03aaron * r43532 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.css: Float add button to left [02:51:40] 03(mod) API reporting incorrect rate limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12760 summary (10matthew.britton) [02:52:41] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs review form not shown when diffonly=1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16339 (10JSchulz_4587) [02:55:31] 03aaron * r43533 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.css: shrink toc height a tad more [02:58:47] Is there a way to undelete a bunch of pages [03:02:36] 03aaron * r43534 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: Kludge box into place [03:16:03] is it just me, or are bot edits not getting bot-flagged? [03:16:32] 03aaron * r43535 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.handler-db.php: Minor tweaks/cleanup [03:37:49] Hey, I've found a security problem [03:38:09] brion [03:38:42] Make a support request [03:38:59] techman224: brion isn't here [03:39:07] I'll make a bugzilla [03:39:15] good idea :) [03:42:23] Hi TimStarling_ [03:47:17] Is there any hook that will make an extra CSS file be included and whatnot? [03:47:22] 03(NEW) Major security flaw in protecting pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16344 major; normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; (techman224) [03:47:32] there [03:48:20] techman224, That's a YourWiki issue, please visit our support site and report the issue there: http://support.yourwiki.net/ [03:48:53] chuck: It's part of the software [03:49:05] 03(WONTFIX) Major security flaw in protecting pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16344 +comment (10charlie) [03:49:17] techman224, We made the configuration change, it's most likely an error that we made in configuration [03:49:31] Founder isn't even a default MediaWiki right [03:50:59] as I recall... that was an age-old issue we never bothered to fix [03:51:53] ^_^ Why do you think inside DefaultSettings.php, the configuration options for changing what can be tweaked with the protect form have notes on why you shouldn't mess with those config options? [03:52:13] 03(mod) Major security flaw in protecting pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16344 +comment (10bretthillebrand) [03:52:17] mw was never designed for that kind of hierarchical permissions [03:55:22] 04(REOPENED) Major security flaw in protecting pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16344 +comment (10charlie) [03:57:09] Dantman, :< [03:57:59] 03(WONTFIX) Major security flaw in protecting pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16344 +comment (10bretthillebrand) [03:59:27] Dantman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Parliament_Building [03:59:29] chuck: That should work [03:59:32] x_x [04:01:47] oh, right, i see [04:01:53] :) [04:05:47] hiya. how do i tell my wiki installation that links beginning with M: should redirect to metawiki, W: should redirect to english wikipedia, and so on? [04:06:02] !interwiki [04:06:02] --mwbot-- Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wikibooks, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see and . For easy configuration, use [04:06:53] RingtailedFox ^ [04:09:52] already looking that up :) [04:10:59] it says i ahve to make sure these settings are like so: $wgInterwikiMagic = true [04:10:59] $wgHideInterlanguageLinks = false [04:11:07] is that in localsettings.php, or somehwere else? [05:14:36] *werdnum waves [06:49:04] werdnum: ' Results 1 - 10 of about 9,710 for Scottish Parliament monstrosity. (0.38 seconds) ' [06:50:29] AaronSchulz: :) [06:50:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Edinburgh_Scottish_Parliament01_2006-04-29.jpg [06:51:05] give me a better definition for the word [06:51:34] AaronSchulz: some designer somewhere is masturbating. [06:51:48] while the rest of us shake our heads :) [07:42:28] 03aaron * r43536 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: Make size slightly bigger for values [08:09:53] how do i allow links to other wikis on the left side, like in wikipedia? [08:32:40] 03(NEW) Browsers automatically filling in "Old password:" break Special:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16345 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (church.of.emacs.ml) [08:34:29] 03(WONTFIX) Browsers automatically filling in "Old password:" break Special :Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16345 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [08:38:54] 03(NEW) simultaneous thumbnailing of images with external programs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16346 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (michael.frey) [08:53:43] werdnum: oh, isn't it possible to extract those? [09:07:45] 03raymond * r43537 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Readd Poem to Translatewiki per removal of Poem from core in r43520 [09:17:05] 03ialex * r43538 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (24 files): [09:17:05] * Added CHANGLEOG entry [09:17:05] * Document $wgConfigureAPI [09:17:05] * Fixed some code style [09:17:05] * Removed trailing whitespaces [09:37:36] <_wooz> lo [09:42:27] 03raymond * r43539 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.templates.php: * Use existing CSS classes from core for table construction for proper RTL support [09:44:13] 03raymond * r43540 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Disabling Configure for the moment. New messages need a few read-overs first. [09:54:59] 03siebrand * r43541 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.i18n.php: Image => File [10:11:33] 03siebrand * r43542 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Re-enable Configure. The new message are in a separate file. [10:13:43] 03siebrand * r43543 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (3 files): Native eol-style [10:32:53] 03siebrand * r43544 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (32 files): Update indentation, whitespace, stylize.php, other updates that do not influence functionality. [10:38:24] 03(mod) Browsers automatically filling in "Old password:" break Special :Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16345 (10N/A) [10:47:48] 03aaron * r43545 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: Add nowrap to bool arrays (to stop odd namespace checkboxen) [10:54:21] 03(mod) Browsers automatically filling in "Old password:" break Special :Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16345 (10JSchulz_4587) [10:56:45] hi [10:56:51] how can i write in red text? [10:56:56] in the wiki [11:02:45] Is there a way to embed JavaScript in a MW page, as: [11:09:05] ShitHead: Your red text should work [11:10:48] got it [11:10:56] thought there is a special syntax [11:13:26] 03aaron * r43546 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: Whitespace/style tweaks [11:15:37] 03aaron * r43547 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.pager-db.php: Class init $mCounter [11:17:51] 03siebrand * r43548 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings.i18n.php: Update messages. Would be good if some other developers/translators would also check and correct these messages before we start feeding them to Betawiki translators. [11:23:34] 03ialex * r43549 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (Configure.i18n.php Configure.js Configure.page.php): Added basic error handling for wfAjaxGetThumbnailUrl [11:25:29] AaronSchulz: why did you disable the API module by default? [11:26:00] api adds more security stuff to deal with [11:26:51] 03aaron * r43550 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.css: Make this toc font a wee smaller [11:34:06] 03ialex * r43551 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.settings-core.php): Re-remove $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedProject [11:35:40] ialex: how do my changes look? [11:37:40] werdnum: good [11:39:14] werdnum: but the file-system cache should be per wiki so that you don't need to call extractAllGlobals() for each request [11:40:24] 03aaron * r43552 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.handler-files.php: [11:40:24] * Make getCurrent() return something in last failure case [11:40:24] * Use more error suppression [11:40:24] * Remove unused var [11:40:55] werdnum: this would reduce the cache hit ratio though [11:42:23] ialex: yeah, I know it should be per-wiki. [11:42:32] that will be done in site config, I imagine. [11:42:58] werdnum: because extractAllGlobals() seems to take a lot of time in my profiler [11:43:53] if ( preg_match( '/conf-(\d{14}).ser$/', $file, $m ) ) [11:44:21] ialex: should that be '/conf-(\d{14})\.ser$/' ? [11:44:57] AaronSchulz: yes [11:46:10] ialex: hm. [11:46:51] 03aaron * r43553 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.handler-files.php: Fix regexp [11:47:15] 03raymond * r43554 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Restore message for search prefs. Removed in r43384 in combination with the new search form but reverted now. [11:47:43] werdnum: yes? [11:48:45] ialex: we could have them specify a directory. [11:50:21] werdnum: yeah, and check it directly in WebConfiguration (maybe in initialise()) and don't call $this->mHandler->getCurrent() on an hit [11:50:42] sort( $files, SORT_NUMERIC ); [11:50:44] return array_reverse( $files ); [11:50:46] ugh [11:50:51] why not use rsort() ? [11:51:50] because i didn't know that it exists? :) [11:52:21] :p [11:53:38] 03aaron * r43555 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.handler-files.php: Just use rsort(), it's faster :p [11:55:08] 03aaron * r43556 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.handler-files.php: Fix regexp more: add starting anchor [11:55:41] ialex: this is probably not the best time for this, we have people over :P [12:01:19] $versions = $wgConf->listArchiveVersions(); [12:01:20] if ( in_array( $version, $versions ) ) { [12:01:26] hmm, a tad slow [12:01:44] might be better to make a filehandler function to try to find a file of a given name [12:04:23] 03siebrand * r43557 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (141 files): [12:04:23] Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki [12:04:23] * Update messages for r43554 [12:14:32] 03(mod) improved table sorting of decimal numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8115 summary (10dunc_harris) [12:14:53] I just moved my MW install (1.6) from one host (php4) to another (php5), but get a redirect loop when trying to access the wiki. any ideas what I've done wrong? [12:19:55] johan2: did you set up the URL rewriting the same? [12:20:16] hm, i just followed the instructions... [12:20:36] on the php4 host, or the php5 one? [12:22:11] I mean, I think I haven't done anything about rewriting, on either server [12:22:37] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki [12:22:42] ok [12:22:45] those are the instructions I followed [12:22:52] the redirects are part of the server's config [12:22:57] *rewrites [12:23:12] but if that is the same, then I don't know [12:25:25] it's a different provider, so things might be different. [12:25:42] from some forum talk, I've guessed that it might have something to do with $IP, paths or htaccess, but exactly what, I don't know [12:26:40] if the redirects were set up in .htaccess, did you copy the .htaccess files across too? [12:28:12] on the old install, I hadn't changed anything in .htaccess. [12:30:05] 03(NEW) Allow unsortable total rows at bottom of table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16347 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (dunc_harris) [12:30:06] 03(mod) thead, tbody, tfoot for wikitable syntax - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4740 (10dunc_harris) [12:30:20] .htaccess was in public_html and just contains some wordpress stuff, whereas MW was two subdirectories down, and there's no htaccess there. [12:30:46] 03ialex * r43558 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/translateSettings.php: Use readconsole() (from phase3/install-utilis.inc) instead of readline(), the latter might not exist in all versions [12:31:31] but whereas I had it installed on public_html/zzz/w earlier, it's now in public_html/w. could that be a problem? [13:01:26] 03(NEW) collapsible tables don't work if top row is all body cells - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16348 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (dunc_harris) [13:06:21] my bot's edits are showing up in recent changes [13:06:28] even though it has a bot flag [13:07:19] may be because it is not using pywikipediabot? [13:20:20] 03(NEW) Bot edits are not flagged as such - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16349 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki: API; (conrad.irwin) [13:22:22] That's probably not a bug >.> [13:22:30] really? [13:22:48] edits through the API should respect bot flag surely? [13:22:48] I seem to remember something about it defaulting to not using the flag [13:23:01] You need to use &bot=1 or something [13:23:04] Let me check [13:23:17] ah [13:23:19] you are right [13:23:21] how idiotic [13:23:26] oh well [13:23:42] Yeah, bot=1 [13:24:19] 14(INVALID) Bot edits are not flagged as such - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16349 +comment (10EN.WP.ST47) [13:25:03] in which case I should file a new report to change that peculiar behaviour? [13:25:58] I think I tried that [13:26:05] I'm looking for the report now [13:26:14] and can't find it. [13:26:27] ok [13:26:34] Maybe I never submitted it, maybe I just talked to someone here, but they said that it's going to stay the way it is [13:26:52] why on earth is that useful behaviour though.. [13:27:46] *ST47 shrugs [13:28:20] Might just be one of those things that everyone has gotten used to and it would be too much trouble to change [13:28:36] I think they might have wanted to have the bot flag and minor edit flag have the same behaviour [13:29:12] well there is a notminor flag too to get round when you have the "mark my edits minor by default" [13:29:33] so it makes sense to have a notbot parameter for when you are a bot, but don't want to act thusly [13:30:15] Yeha. [13:33:32] 'thusly' ticks me off. [13:33:50] >.> [13:34:10] *thusly ticks off werdnum [13:36:02] *werdnum banninates thusly [13:36:46] 03(NEW) display categories with initial lower-case letter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16350 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (catlow) [13:38:53] 14(WFM) display categories with initial lower-case letter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16350 +comment (10conrad.irwin) [13:42:38] 03(NEW) Unintentional change of FlaggedRevs settings for dewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16351 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (paul.copperman) [13:42:52] 03(NEW) Inconsistentcy with
 and  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16352 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[14:09:33] 	hi everybody there
[14:09:37] 	good afternoon!
[14:10:25] 	would anybody give me a hand with an equation problem?
[14:10:37] 	after googling for almost an hour I cannot solve it
[14:10:46] 	I got the following message in my wiki
[14:10:48] 	Failed to parse (Missing texvc executable; please see math/README to configure.): I = {c \over t}
[14:10:58] 	the texvc is installed in my server
[14:11:11] 	and I enabled it in LocalSettings.php
[14:11:13] 	:S
[14:11:25] 	the math directory is writable by the server....
[14:21:07] 	thanks in advance :P
[14:41:46] 	Hi, i got the following error when trying to upload a file : The file has no extension (like ".jpg").
[14:41:46] 	but the file HAD an extension.
[14:44:56] 	did you enable this extension in LocalSettings.php?
[14:46:18] 	Which variable is it ?
[14:46:26] 	$wgEnableUploads = true;
[14:47:33] 	$wgFileExtensions = array('gif','png','jpg','jpeg');
[14:47:36] 	por ejemplo
[14:47:39] 	eso es lo que yo tengo
[14:49:21] 	Yo tengo eso :
[14:49:21] 	$wgFileExtensions = array('png', 'gif', 'jpg', 'jpeg', 'doc', 'xls', 'mpp', 'pdf');
[14:51:05] 	did you try another file/extension?
[14:51:21] 	sorry I did not realized I was speaking Spanish! :D
[14:51:33] 	Png and jpg.
[14:51:42] 	and do they work?
[14:51:54] 	or is only exclusively related to that file?
[14:52:08] 	03(NEW) Sort table by hidden values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16353 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (dunc_harris)
[14:52:09] 	None of them.
[14:52:15] 	lyhana8: note that the *target* name you enter also has to have an extension!
[14:52:27] 	Oh~
[14:52:30] 	the name of the source file isn't even relevant, iirc.the important bit is the target name
[14:53:07] 	the error message could be a bit more explicit about that. i guess it'S from a time when there was no field to enter a target name
[14:53:32] 	Duesentrieb: that's it !
[14:53:39] 	:P
[14:53:48] 	ups! so easy!
[14:53:58] 	lyhana8, where are you from?
[14:54:53] 	France, why ?
[14:55:17] 	because you understood my Spanish :D
[14:56:43] 	XD, i though it was portuguese... just take 3 word and was really scared you answer  me in the same language again ^^
[14:57:13] 	:D
[14:57:50] 	I think we were chatting here before...
[14:57:56] 	are you Ceridwen?
[14:58:12] 	Nope, i'm lyhana8 :)
[14:58:24] 	:)  nice nick though :D
[14:58:25] 	I already come on this channel yet.
[14:58:51] 	Don't be misleading, i'm a guy XD
[14:59:04] 	lol
[14:59:35] 	don't mind
[14:59:39] 	Where are  you from.
[14:59:52] 	Spain, living actually in Germany
[14:59:53] 	(just to be sure)
[15:00:15] 	Are you studying in germany ?
[15:00:19] 	working
[15:00:38] 	Oh~ my directory are not writable....
[15:00:43] 	With kind of work ?
[15:00:47] 	science
[15:01:33] 	It's a large domain..., more precisely ?
[15:01:45] 	neuroscience
[15:02:04] 	cellular mechanisms of learning and memory more precisely
[15:02:05] 	O.O
[15:02:24] 	I've done a licence/bachelor of cognitive science :)
[15:02:27] 	cool
[15:02:44] 	we have recently received a cognitive scientist in our lab
[15:02:51] 	pretty cool guy, actually
[15:03:09] 	different point of view, but very interesting though
[15:03:28] 	SciCo = Sciences Cognitive [fr] rulez.
[15:04:35] 	he came from Boston, but maybe we need some SciCO too :P
[15:05:22] 	I'm there
[15:05:28] 	hey Ceridwen !!!!!!
[15:05:32] 	I'm now on a master of communication person-system, a bit more techy.
[15:05:34] 	XD
[15:05:42] 	I'm working on my wm
[15:05:44] 	sure!
[15:05:47] 	me too
[15:06:06] 	I am having so many problems with the math support!!!
[15:06:14] 	i cannot write LaTeX in my wiki!
[15:06:16] 	Which folder are need for the upload function ?
[15:06:30] 	Do you have imagemagick ?
[15:06:41] 	imagemagick?
[15:06:42] 	nop
[15:06:56] 	I have just changed the variables in LocalSettings.php
[15:07:01] 	Nin: have you read the README file in the math folder?
[15:07:05] 	and after that gave some permissions
[15:07:09] 	I am actually reading that
[15:07:21] 	yes Duesentrieb and I tried what it is described there
[15:07:32] 	Nin: texvc does the text handling. it needs to be compiled, actually. it's not there on install.
[15:07:37] 	it's a bit silly, admittedly
[15:07:54] 	Nin: imagemagick is the apps that create the LateX image so you absolutely need it.
[15:08:01] 	Duesentrieb, but the textvc is already compiled in my server
[15:08:07] 	lyhana8: uh... no.
[15:08:20] 	actually tex was working perfectly till the last backup
[15:08:33] 	Nin: that's interesting :)
[15:08:36] 	Duesentrieb: you can create formula image without imagemagick ?
[15:08:55] 	Hi, I recently got a wiki at Referata (free wiki farm). I'm trying to create footnotes on this page http://lumeniki.referata.com/wiki/Lumeniki:Copyrights. I think I need to import a template. I think reflist will do what I want. Can I copy some code and add it to Template:Reflist so that I can use the  tags with {{reflist}}?
[15:09:09] 	no, you don't need a template
[15:09:14] 	and more strange is that the "old" equations are running well, but If I change them, then I got the error message
[15:09:17] 	just type  if the Cite extension is installed.
[15:09:33] 	cite is not installed
[15:09:35] 	lyhana8: yes. it does not use imagemagick at all. it uses tex and dvipng
[15:10:02] 	lumenos: install it, then.
[15:10:51] 	I'm not sure I'm allowed to do that. It is a free wiki farm. Can I install via Special Pages?
[15:11:07] 	lumenos: no.
[15:11:19] 	lumenos: the cite extension is pretty standard. ask them to install it.
[15:12:24] 	Duesentrieb: what this lines for, then :
[15:12:24] 	$wgUseImageMagick = true;$wgImageMagickConvertCommand = "/usr/bin/convert";
[15:12:41] 	lyhana8: for thumbnailing images.
[15:12:51] 	unrelated to tex
[15:13:26] 	imagemagick can also be used to render svg, but it sucks for that
[15:13:40] 	Ok, so why do i made an association between this two things ?
[15:13:53] 	i have no idea.
[15:13:55] 	What did you use for svg rendring ?
[15:14:06] 	rsvg
[15:14:33] 	03(NEW) Spam-blacklist bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16354 major; normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (skjackey.tse)
[15:14:45] 	Did that support the multilanguage stuff ?
[15:15:52] 	don't know if rsvg does. i don't think mediawiki has support for multilingual "versions" of images (yet).
[15:15:59] 	it would sure be cool.
[15:16:19] 	i suppose batik could do that. batik is slow, though.
[15:17:06] 	Who is batik ?
[15:17:29] 	Batik is an SVG rendering library for Java
[15:17:45] 	it's pretty good, maybe even better than rsvg, but it's slow.
[15:17:46] 	Duesentrieb, sorry for disturbing you, but my LaTeX support only required to change $wgTexvc and $wgUseTeX  last time
[15:17:58] 	and after giving the permissions 755 to \math
[15:18:02] 	it should be working
[15:18:08] 	do I have to check something else?
[15:18:40] 	Nin: if you have an texvc executable in there, which is redable and executable for the php process, and finds the required things like dvipng on the system path, then yes.
[15:19:35] 	also, the dirs given in $wgMathDirectory and $wgTmpDirectory need to be writable
[15:19:38] 	!debug | Nin
[15:19:38] --mwbot--	Nin: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see .
[15:19:54] 	I have no shell access to my server
[15:19:55] 	:S
[15:20:21] 	I do not understand, it was working OK last time
[15:21:02] 	Nin: non of that requires shell access. though shell access is good to have.
[15:21:11] 	!shell
[15:21:11] --mwbot--	Shell access (that is, SSH access, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH) is highly recommended if you want to run MediaWiki. You can install without it, and basic operation will work, but even creating backups or upgrading will be painful without it. Some more involved maintenance tasks may even be impossible. MediaWiki is not designed for minimal environments.
[15:21:12] 	aha
[15:22:09] 	I will consider to install a server here
[15:22:25] 	anyway, thank you very much for your help!
[15:26:05] 	dues: well I want to be as compatible as possible with other free wiki farms, namely wiki-site.com and editthis.info. None of these have the Cite extention installed as far as I can tell (I checked the version page). I don't know the advantages of Cite, but my last free wiki farm died and I want to be able to upload an xml backup to another site with as little hassle as possible.
[15:26:35] 	wov, without equations my wiki does not make much sense ... :S
[15:27:21] 	lumenos: so live without foot notes.
[15:27:51] 	(or manage dem by hand)
[15:28:44] 	Maybe I can find someone who knows how to create the reflist template.
[15:31:41] 	lumenos: you can just look it up on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Reflist&action=edit
[15:32:00] 	lumenos - You "create" the reflist template by just copying the contents to Template:Reflist on your wiki (and possibly copy the references-small rules from [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]). But that template won't work without the Cite.php extension.
[15:32:02] 	lumenos: but it uses {{#tag:references}} which is just a way to invoke 
[15:32:13] 	lumenos: which means: it requires the cite extension.
[15:32:53] 	oh that explains why copying it didn't work
[15:33:28] 	Here it is if you want to see http://lumeniki.referata.com/wiki/Lumeniki:Copyrights
[15:33:51] 	lumenos: use the extension, or do it by hand. 
[15:34:53] 	Okay I guess I'll ask all those farms if they will install it.
[15:39:46] 	lumenos: check/ask for parserfunctions too. you want that,
[15:40:34] 	umm okay
[15:52:54] 	03(mod) Special:Export output missing XML encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15914  (10g_sauthoff)
[16:18:45] 	hey everyone !
[16:22:11] 	03ialex * r43559 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: Only show the link to mw.org on setting's name because when you have a link in the description ($wgCountCategorizedImagesAsUsed, $wgSortSpecialPages, ...) then the page becomes invalid for the W3C validator
[16:22:11] 	hi LaDuelo 
[16:24:01] 	a question from a noob: how to make my main page the same as wikipedia's ? I mean how to make some content on the left side and some content on the right side of a page ?
[16:24:15] 	LaDuelo: use a table
[16:24:26] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Tables
[16:25:19] 	thanks
[16:25:45] 	and another question: why I can't chagne my sidebar ? No changes are applied after editing it
[16:26:01] 	do a hard refresh
[16:26:25] 	how ?
[16:26:35] 	ctrl+shift+r
[16:26:39] 	or ctrl+shift+f5
[16:28:10] 	still nothing
[16:34:18] 	still nothing !
[16:39:25] 	anyone ?
[16:41:56] 	why I can't change anything in my sidebar ?
[16:42:19] 	LaDuelo: You changed MediaWiki:Sidebar and nothing happens? Are you on the monobook skin?
[16:44:08] 	yes i am
[16:44:55] 	Might be caching issue
[16:47:45] 	how to fix it ?
[16:52:38] 	how to fix it ?
[17:03:31] 	Hi all...  First off, I wanted to say that this is incredible software...  I would like to ask if there is anyone who would be able to help me figure out why I cannot get a custom logo to display after editing the $wgLogo parameter...  It is just completely blank now...
[17:04:32] 	I've tried moving the file around and changing permissions....  If I set $wgLogo to anything at all in LocalSettings.php then I simply get a blank logo space.
[17:06:24] 	good beginning, at least we know that LocalSettings.php is well red 
[17:06:31] 	;)
[17:09:07] 	I figured it out...
[17:09:41] 	$wgLogo = $wgScriptPath ."/logo.png";
[17:09:58] 	for whatever reason simply putting the full path didn't work
[17:10:20] 	it is not the filesystem path
[17:10:21] 	as in $wgLogo = "/var/lib/mediawiki/logo.png" 
[17:10:47] 	Yeah, but ^^^^ didn't work... but with the $wgScriptPath it did...  
[17:11:06] 	I found the $wgScriptPath methog on a discussion board... not in the manual... ;)
[17:11:25] 	Anyway, this is awesome stuff...  I wish I had discovered this software years ago.
[17:11:34] 	Thanks for the effort you guys put in to
[17:11:41] 	err, into it.
[17:11:44] 	how is the table on, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_4_dead called ?
[17:12:15] 	I am talking about "This article contains information about unreleased game"
[17:12:55] 	hmm ?
[17:13:36] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_message_boxes
[17:14:15] 	yes, but how to make one ?
[17:14:27] 	for your own site?
[17:14:36] 	yes
[17:14:39] 	for my own wiki
[17:14:52] 	how can I delete an uploaded image that has an ampersand in the page title?
[17:14:54] 	I'd advise not, it would almost certainly be massive overkill
[17:15:00] 	why not ?
[17:15:15] 	some spambot managed to upload it to my wiki, but when I try to access that image, it says it cannot find it
[17:15:19] 	it uses all sorts of meta-templates, sub-templates, images, and CSS classes
[17:15:51] 	in particular, how can I delete this: http://wiki.filezilla-project.org/Image:J%26g.jpg
[17:15:58] 	on a site like Wikipedia that has a thousand templates like that it makes sense, but from a small site, probably not
[17:16:07] 	bah, brion isn't here
[17:16:23] 	Is there a way to insert JavaScript code into a MW page, ala  
[17:16:58] 	Rich_Morin_: you can add javascript site-wide by editing [[Mediawiki:Common.js]]
[17:17:07] 	but embedding in pages has security concerns 
[17:17:45] 	thanks for help =\
[17:17:48] 	found it myself
[17:17:55] 	It's not small website
[17:20:35] 	for copying templates from Wikipedia you'll probably need ParserFunctions and HTML Tidy
[17:20:48] 	cirwin: The problem I'm trying to solve has to do with the the hide/show link that __TOC__ produces.  I'd like to have it start out hidden.  To do this in [[Mediawiki:Common.js]], I assume I'd need to look for a particular DOM  situation and then make a change in "unobtrusive JS" style.  True?
[17:21:10] 	that'd be how I'd do it
[17:21:16] 	tnx
[17:21:36] 	just insert a  somewhere
[17:22:04] 	and then addOnloadHook(function () { if (document.getElementById('hide-toc-on-this-page') hideTOC () })
[17:23:12] 	is there a way to make a new sidebar menu dynamicly? Like some kind of hook?
[17:32:24] <[KrusheR]>	hi
[17:33:00] 	03maikmerten * r43560 10/trunk/cortado/src/com/fluendo/player/Cortado.java: change default status bar hiding behaviour of Cortado. Show the status bar if the mouse has been moved over the applet, hide after (by default) 3 seconds without movement. Don't hide if the mouse is on the status bar.
[17:33:01] <[KrusheR]>	it's just me or DynamicPageList extension is broken?
[17:34:18] 	hi
[17:35:02] 	is there a way to get the name of the user who's saves an article? I didnt found a magic word for that. maybe a plugin?
[17:41:50] 	Dabwe - perhaps wfCheckUser extention?
[17:42:36] 	sorry I meant Danwe
[17:46:47] 	I founc the checkuser extension
[17:47:01] 	but thats something different
[17:47:50] 	I want a magic word which includes the Name of User who's editing the Page, like {{PAGENAME}}
[17:47:56] 	I have a question about Special:Statistics. Does the total page view count include view counts n spcial pages (which don't display a counter) and search engine crawlers?
[18:05:53] 	any dev around that knows about wgExtNewTables?
[18:07:45] 	Hello, I have a wiki running on http://vandijk.homelinux.net/mediawiki . I just reconfigured apache to use virtual hosts and now I would like to move this wiki to the following url: http://nijac.homelinux.net/buitenlandkamp2009 . So I copied /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mediawiki to /var/nijac/buitenlandkamp2009 and I created a corresponding virtual host entry in my apache configuration. I also changed $wgScriptPath from "/mediawiki" to
[18:07:46] 	"/buitenlandkamp2009". However when I load the new url in my browser I get an permission error. Any ideas?
[18:10:00] 	well, check the permissions?
[18:10:47] 	mm gentoo
[18:10:48] 	This is the virtual host entry in my apache configuration: http://hpaste.org/12066
[18:11:10] 	Nikerabbit: yes I'm on gentoo
[18:11:39] 	check *filesystem* permissions
[18:11:48] 	03(NEW) The robots.txt disallows logging in. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16355 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (aliter)
[18:12:37] 	Nikerabbit: but the permissions haven't changed because I just copied the original wiki to a new location. However I will check just in case
[18:12:53] 	03vyznev * r43561 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: minor fix for r43517: float tables to the right on RTL wikis
[18:13:12] 	cp may not preserve ownership
[18:13:29] 	Nikerabbit: oh right, good point
[18:13:29] 	cp -p tries to preserve
[18:13:51] 	agaran: thanks I will try copying it again with -p
[18:14:21] 	of course -p will work for root only, as common user dont have ability to chown
[18:15:25] 	agaran: that's not a problem. I've the ability to be root
[18:17:57] 	i just gave an warnig
[18:17:58] 	warning
[18:18:19] 	The 'cp -p' did the trick. Thanks agaran and Nikerabbit!!! 
[18:19:49] 	mm
[18:19:51] 	Dutch
[18:30:25] 	Is there some way to create a new side panel menu in php, that is a way in which to do it without just putting xhtml into the layout?
[18:32:52] 	you can add new sections to the sidebar by editing Mediawiki:sidebar
[18:35:20] 	Nikerabbit: cool, but I need to have it added in a programtic fashion based on conditions
[18:45:12] 	back to my problem =\
[18:45:26] 	Can't see any changes after editing sidebar
[18:46:00] 	I used &action=purge
[18:46:03] 	it didnt help me
[18:46:12] 	ctrl+shift+r same
[18:47:01] 	how do i allow links to other wikis on the left side, like in wikipedia? http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Country/doc is an example
[19:00:36] 	where can i get russian support for mediawiki software?
[19:04:53] 	Xndr: there are a few people who know russian in here, I think
[19:04:59] 	On a regular page, for links, why does MediaWiki output href="/wiki/Title"? It seems rather inefficient compared to href="Title". (Obviously, this wouldn't work if you were editing a page and so in /w/)
[19:07:49] 	On a similar note, is there a reason for outputting the protocol and server for the RSS and Atom feeds?
[19:13:49] 	GreenReaper: inefficient?
[19:14:12] 	Well, think about it - you're putting those bytes out on the wire.
[19:14:30] 	Even if you're using gzip, there'll be some cost - and for some reason many sites don't.
[19:14:56] 	Mike_lifeguard: ok then i'll try to explain in english :) after installation i put the LocalSettings.php in parent directory, and now i see a blank page at ...wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page what may case this error?
[19:15:10] 	*cause
[19:15:21] 	Dunno, but turn on error reporting... somehow
[19:15:31] 	! debug
[19:15:31] 	(including wikipedia.org but that's another issue ;-)
[19:15:32] 	?
[19:15:33] 	oh when will people stop worrying about things that *do* make difference
[19:15:35] 	!debug
[19:15:35] --mwbot--	For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see .
[19:15:40] 	there you go :)
[19:15:53] 	yeah thx )
[19:16:30] 	brb)
[19:16:53] 	GreenReaper: because of pretty urls, articles can have multiple "entry" urls, and due to caching the links must always work and cannot change
[19:16:53] 	Nikerabbit: . . . hopefully never?
[19:17:26] 	s/stop/start/
[19:20:31] 	I'm not clear on how what you said relates to the suggestion. The target of the link will be the same, because the user is already using a pretty URL.
[19:20:42] 	They are already at /wiki/Current_page
[19:20:58] 	So href="New_page" will resolve to /wiki/New_page
[19:22:58] 	 
[19:23:29] 	I will admit the difference is small - 282 bytes on a 22kb page, or just 20 bytes gzipped. Still, both are greater than 0. :-)
[19:27:02] 	GreenReaper: but what is the page is accessed directly trough index.php?
[19:28:50] 	Then you don't do that. You replace it with the pretty link, which is already being done.
[19:31:10] 	GreenReaper: "replace" ?
[19:31:40] 	mediawiki usually doesn't even know about if someone comes trough pretty urls
[19:32:14] 	So on http://es.wikifur.com/w/index.php?title=Anthrocon_2010 it links to "/wiki/Anthrocon_2000" but on http://es.wikifur.com/wiki/Anthrocon_2010 they are to "Anthrocon_2000"
[19:32:25] 	s/they are/it links to/
[19:32:35] 	GreenReaper: I just said it is not possible due to caching
[19:33:21] 	Because . . . ?
[19:33:31] 	You just end up wtih two items in the cache.
[19:34:20] 	Now, if that causes a performance issue, it's a fair argument, but it doesn't mean it's impossible.
[19:34:26] 	GreenReaper: effectively making the cache more than two times less useful
[19:34:55] 	The assumption is that the pretty URLs will be almost universally used in page accesses.
[19:36:00] 	(Because most people are not editing - even editors are just accessing pages using pretty URLs most of the time)
[19:37:06] 	I prefer KIS.
[19:37:47] 	Fair enough. Know anything about the related RSS question? I thought it might be that the RSS protocol required full URLs but looking around, that does not appear to be the case.
[19:39:03] *GreenReaper 	found the UniversalEditButton extension was doing the same thing, using getFullURL rather than getLocalURL - and that didn't seem to be needed either.
[19:44:11] 	03(mod) The robots.txt disallows logging in. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16355  (10soxred93)
[19:53:46] 	03(mod) Bot edits are not flagged as such - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16349  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[20:22:18] 	How do I specify which server is the master and which is the slave in MediaWiki?
[20:24:34] 	chuck: read the comment for $wgDBservers in your DefaultSettings file
[20:24:39] 	!wg DBServers
[20:24:39] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgDBServers
[20:25:06] 	oh it's http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDBservers
[20:25:39] 	that page also sais it.
[20:25:44] 	"The master must be the first entry in the array."
[20:26:07] 	chuck: setting up mysql replication is up to you, of course
[20:29:23] 	Thanks, it's actually a problem in update.php that I was having
[20:29:30] 	Apparently it doesn't use the DB_MASTER
[20:29:37] 	I think it's using $wgDBserver
[20:32:59] 	ii have a problem with my wiki installation
[20:33:27] 	when i have an interwiki link such as [[fr:article-in-french]] (with fr: pointing to fr.wikipedia.org), it does not show up on the left-hand side. how do i fix that?
[20:36:31] 	hello
[20:36:34] 	hiya
[20:36:39] 	hello Galanwe :)
[20:36:44] 	i need some help using templates :)
[20:36:57] 	we'll try to help ya out. what are you trying to do with your templates?
[20:37:12] 	i would like a sentance to be displayed only if a parameter is defined
[20:37:37] 	RingtailedFox: as far as i know, any prefix that is regognized as a language code should trigger the link to be treated as a "magic" language link... but maybe the entry in the interwiki map has to be marked "local"?
[20:37:41] 	i'm creating a template to display 'items' with dozens of caracteristics passed as parameters to the template
[20:37:53] 	!parserfunctions | Galanwe
[20:37:53] --mwbot--	Galanwe: "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see .
[20:37:54] 	perhaps
[20:38:16] 	i red an article about parserfunctions
[20:38:31] 	but in Special:Version i don't have usefull ones
[20:38:46] 	and then use {{#if: {{{parameter|}}} | }} after installing on your page and done!
[20:38:49] 	!e ParserFunctions
[20:38:49] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions
[20:39:05] 	Galanwe: install that extension ^
[20:39:12] 	i'm not the administrator
[20:39:38] 	Galanwe: this is a bit confusing: "parser functions" are a way to expetnd mediawiki syntax. there are a few "core" parser functiosn, and then there is the "standard" parser functiosn in the ParserFunctions extension. which has to be installed.
[20:39:50] 	Galanwe: note the slight difference in the titles of the links i gave you
[20:40:08] 	i'm testing if it needs local to be checked
[20:40:08] 	I have: int, ns, urlencode, lcfirst, ucfirst, lc, uc, localurl, localurle, fullurl, fullurle, formatnum, grammar, plural, numberofpages, numberofusers, numberofarticles, numberoffiles, numberofadmins, language, padleft, padright and anchorencode 
[20:40:08] 	Galanwe: if the parserfunctions extension is not installed, you can't use conditionals.
[20:40:10] 	go to [[Special:Version]] on that wiki and search there for ParserFunctions
[20:40:11] 	if so, i have my work cut out for me :P
[20:40:25] 	but not "if"
[20:40:32] 	or maybe it is not listed?
[20:40:33] 	Galanwe: yes, that's the core functions., you are missing the standard functions from the extension
[20:40:43] 	"if" is not a core function
[20:40:49] 	that did it :)
[20:41:03] 	in fact, selecting local on j ust one of the languages causes a ton of others to show up as well
[20:41:12] 	RingtailedFox: that's quite odd.
[20:41:34] 	however, if i try to link to an article on the french wikipedia, will it then show up on the side?
[20:41:36] 	how so?
[20:41:41] 	http://www.whitetwilight.com/t4c/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Version
[20:42:22] 	why would changin one language code influence the others?
[20:42:24] 	hmm, I think you have to ask the server admin to install them
[20:42:33] 	oh :(
[20:42:46] 	there is no other way using templates only ?
[20:42:52] 	no
[20:42:55] 	i have said so before
[20:43:14] 	the admin should also update MediaWiki ;)
[20:43:25] 	1.8.2 is old
[20:43:33] 	hmm
[20:43:33] 	and unsupported.
[20:43:51] 	"copyright (C) 2001-2006"
[20:43:52] 	:P
[20:43:57] 	haha
[20:43:57] 	Duesentrieb: qif ^_^
[20:43:58] 	:)
[20:44:00] 	hehe :)
[20:44:07] 	what would i have to do to link to french wikipedia instead of having it think the french version is available? [[:fr:article]]?
[20:44:10] 	Splarka: omg
[20:44:18] 	Splarka: vade retro, satanas!
[20:44:27] 	Splarka: that was an horrible hack ;)
[20:44:33] 	Duesentrieb: +1
[20:44:38] 	in fact the wiki is almost abandonned by the admin, only the community subsists
[20:44:39] 	i'm trying to configure http://wiki.domain.org to forward to http://domain.org/wiki/ via DirectAdmin, and it's forwarding to http://wiki.domain.org/wiki/ instead.  since the forwards for everything else (forums.domain.org / bugs.domain.org etc.) work, i was told this is likely an issue with an improperly configured wiki; but i'm not at all aware of how i might fix it.
[20:44:40] 	indeed
[20:44:43] 	but it'd work in 1.8
[20:44:47] 	has anyone else experienced this?
[20:44:57] 	Galanwe: dump & fork, then.
[20:45:08] 	hmf
[20:45:58] 	this seems a bit of a heavy work only for adding nice templates :) guess i just won't use templates that will be easier
[20:46:23] 	Galanwe: according to statistics, there's only 28 real pages in that wiki.
[20:46:31] 	easy to dump them and restarted elsewhere :)
[20:46:43] 	03ialex * r43562 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.obj.php: 
[20:46:43] 	\o/ finally found what caused that bug. Some arrays duplicated their items each
[20:46:43] 	time you saved a new version. This was due to the fact that
[20:46:43] 	WebConfiguration::initialise() was called two times, it will now restore the
[20:46:43] 	original "$this->settings" when calling it for the second time.
[20:46:46] 	Galanwe: you will get nasty problems down the road if you don't have a responsive owner
[20:47:26] 	Galanwe: it's a fan/community wiki now? do what everyone does and go to wikia :)
[20:47:35] 	http://www.google.com/search?q=template+qif  <-- somewhere must have enough instructions to rebuild it
[20:48:29] 	wikia ?
[20:48:47] 	Galanwe: a large free mediawiki based wiki hoster
[20:48:57] 	without ads ?
[20:49:23] 	it has adds... not too bad though. i think you can pay to get them turned off.
[20:49:57] 	Galanwe: this is the mostprominent wikia wiki: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[20:50:09] 	No, with ads.
[20:50:32] 	If you want hosting without ads, I suggest the payment of money.
[20:50:46] 	Or some other exchange of goods and/or services.
[20:51:17] 	yes, for free and add free is generally a rip-off or tied to some very strict conditions.
[20:51:30] 	but look around http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Big_wikis
[20:51:36] 	not necessarily duesentrieb..
[20:51:44] 	free and ad-free wikis could simply be slow as hell :P
[20:52:00] 	RingtailedFox: got a counterexample? someone has to pay for the hosting in some way after all
[20:52:22] 	i can't think of any right now..
[20:52:30] 	hmm the price is not a problem, fact is that it will be hard to convince everyone to migrate only because of templates and updates. Many users are just casual and satisfied with a messy template-free wiki
[20:52:47] 	the closest is my website host... six bucks a month gets me unlimited space and bandwith, and great support...but it's slow at times :P
[20:52:54] 	Galanwe: just make sure the get dumps of the important stuff every now and then
[20:53:01] 	so you can go elsewhere once it breaks for good.
[20:53:19] 	anyway, do all foreign-language wikis need to be listed as "local"?
[20:53:31] 	in order for them to be placed on the left side?
[20:53:48] 	RingtailedFox: yes, it need not be expensive. for six bugs, you can get really decent web space. a workable solution might even be had for half that. but not for free.
[20:54:17] 	RingtailedFox: yes, i suppose they all have to be "local". this feature is intended for "sibling" wikis on the same site.
[20:54:26] 	which is what "local" means
[20:54:34] 	what is the "trans" option?
[20:54:47] 	i think it's related to the scarry transclusion option
[20:54:57] 	i'll leave that one alone
[20:55:05] 	!wg EnableScaryTranscluding
[20:55:05] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgEnableScaryTranscluding
[20:55:42] 	okay, thanks for the help everyone, have a nice day
[20:55:49] 	hm, wikia's ads have gotten bigger :( http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[20:56:48] 	Yeah, we noticed. :-)
[20:57:19] 	i see
[20:57:25] *GreenReaper 	thinks they need to find another revenue stream.
[20:57:51] 	now that my example of "fr:" is enabled as local... can i still link to french wikipedia's articles if i type [[:fr:article-name-in-french]]?
[20:58:08] 	You'd need to do Wikipedia:fr:article name
[20:58:15] 	ahh
[20:58:17] 	that's alright :)
[20:58:18] 	or w:fr:article name possibly
[20:58:23] 	depends on your map
[20:58:25] 	i dun mind doing that
[20:58:27] 	my map?
[20:58:31] 	the interwiki map
[20:58:33] 	ohh
[20:59:12] 	if w: goes to en.wikipedia.org that's OK, because fr:article name on the English Wikipedia goes to the French wikipedia.
[20:59:17] 	Wikipedia:fr:name will link allright
[20:59:27] 	but not in the sidebar
[20:59:38] 	because "wikipedia:" is not a language code.
[21:00:01] 	Right.
[21:00:26] 	but then you wouldn't want two that showed up as "French" in the sidebar, it'd be confusing.
[21:00:40] 	yah
[21:01:25] 	as long as [[Wikipedia:fr:article-name]] can link to the article, with [[fr:article-name]] shows up on the sidebar, that will do nicely :)
[21:01:55] 	RingtailedFox: to disable sidebar magic, use a leading :
[21:02:01] 	ahh
[21:02:03] 	03(mod) Sort table by hidden values - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16353  (10dunc_harris)
[21:02:03] 	[[:fr:article-name]] is a simple link
[21:02:10] 	that's even better!
[21:02:13] 	so that WILL work?
[21:02:16] 	same with [[:Image:Foo.jpg]] btw
[21:02:22] 	that will work. for everything.
[21:02:30] 	excellent >:)
[21:02:37] 	:P
[21:02:42] 	also for [[:Category:Foo]]
[21:02:48] 	sweet!
[21:02:57] 	!colon
[21:02:57] --mwbot--	To escape the usual function of [[Image:]] links, [[Category:]] links, [[en:Interlanguage]] links, and create an inline simple link, prefix a colon. [[:Image:Wiki.png]], [[:Category:Cats]], [[:en:Foobar]]. A colon can also be used to transclude an article in the main namespace, eg {{:Main_Page}}.
[21:03:16] *RingtailedFox 	nodnods
[21:03:44] 	my next question is this: english wikipedia has both extensions Cite and Special:Cite installed without conflict. when i install both, they DO conflict. how do i install both without having them fight?
[21:06:01] 	i have both installed on 1.13.2 and have no conflict
[21:06:47] 	RingtailedFox: how would they collide? another adds a special page, another adds  tags
[21:07:33] 	RingtailedFox: they conflict how?
[21:07:40] *Duesentrieb 	didn't even know Special:Cite exists
[21:08:20] 	they say they cannot express something that's already been expressed or something like that
[21:08:25] 	RingtailedFox: actually, Special:Cite is a part of the cite extension
[21:08:30] 	oh
[21:08:41] 	so, adding special:cite twice would cause it to conflict with itself?
[21:08:46] 	"Cite includes several extensions which can be installed independently and operate independently of each other."
[21:08:49] 	if you try to include it again explicitly, that will probably break things
[21:08:56] 	RingtailedFox: uh, what?
[21:09:00] 	oh
[21:09:01] 	would would special:site be available differently?
[21:09:02] 	why would you do that?
[21:09:03] 	*separately?
[21:09:09] 	i thought they were two related but separate extensions
[21:09:15] 	well... never mind me, read the instructions :)
[21:09:19] 	i did
[21:09:21] 	i was confused by them
[21:09:53] *piksi 	longs for the old behaviour where cites were defined in the  and only linked with  in the text
[21:10:22] 	piksi: as opposed to what now? thatÄs the way i know it...
[21:10:29] 	at least in the newest snapshot it said that i should explicitly use  
[21:10:43] 	err... huh?
[21:10:53] 	oh, now i see what you mean
[21:17:00] 	03(mod) Use id's for section anchors instead of  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4741  (10michael)
[21:18:31] 	03(mod) Give all sections an HTML DIV with CSS CLASS and perhaps ID - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6104  (10michael)
[21:19:31] 	hey everyone
[21:21:23] 	After editing sidebar I can't see any changes, whats wrong ?
[21:21:39] 	Might be cached?
[21:21:46] 	I think there's a three hour cache on sidebars.
[21:21:54] 	LaDuelo, try refreshing your browser's cache
[21:22:19] 	such ctrl+shift+r ?
[21:22:31] 	such as*
[21:23:24] 	I've done this already, it didn't help me
[21:24:38] 	hi Duesentrieb 
[21:24:40] 	LaDuelo: is your wiki public (i.e. can I access it)?
[21:24:44] 	hello Nikerabbit
[21:24:46] 	hi Nikerabbit
[21:24:51] 	mui piksi
[21:24:54] 	hi ialex
[21:24:57] 	yes it is public
[21:25:11] 	LaDuelo: can I have the URL?
[21:25:16] 	but it's in other language
[21:25:36] 	http://csmania.ru/wiki/
[21:27:56] 	ialex
[21:28:22] 	LaDuelo: the last line of MediaWiki:Sidebar is wrong
[21:28:32] 	why ?
[21:28:40] 	**http://www.csmania.ru|CsMania
[21:28:47] 	ahh
[21:29:05] 	YAY !
[21:29:07] 	Wiki syntax doesn't work in the sidebar
[21:29:08] 	Thanks
[21:29:08] 	lol
[21:29:11] 	oh ok
[21:36:30] 	the only reason i was asking about Cite and Special:Cite is that my version only lists one of them, while wikipedia lists both.
[21:39:36] 	RingtailedFox: so perhaps you have to activate Special:Cite somehow.
[21:39:56] 	note that the stuff listed on Special:Version doesn't really tell you anythign about what is "one" extension
[21:46:10] 	04(REOPENED) display categories with initial lower-case letter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16350  +comment (10catlow)
[21:47:06] 	03(NEW) broken interwikiprefix - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16356 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[21:47:12] 	has anyone had any luck adding output from extensions to a sidebar menu? I would like to include a tag in the sidebar and have it render correctly for my pages.
[21:48:08] 	hmm
[21:48:43] 	http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Special:Version
[21:48:45] 	my version page
[21:48:53] 	compare that with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version
[21:50:19] 	they have the cite parser hooks installed
[21:50:56] 	or better yet, how can I get $wgOut->parse("[[link]]");  to work within the skin, in the sidebar?
[22:00:31] 	03aaron * r43563 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (LiquidThreads.php LqtPages.php): 
[22:00:31] 	* Rename class to shorter name
[22:00:31] 	* Make two pages unlisted
[22:02:10] 	any way of making a patrolled edit be seen as unpatrolled again?
[22:02:28] 	no
[22:19:51] 	I have another questions regarding the search function. We have pages with titles like "CNC16" or "CNC30". If I search for "CNC" i do not get any results.
[22:20:34] 	Is there a minimum limit for number of characters for search ?
[22:22:58] 	rakekniven: yes. four letter min, and numbers are ignored.
[22:23:21] 	rakekniven: this is imposed by mysql's fulltext indexing engine. look at the mysql manual for dteails and options
[22:24:06] 	rakekniven: i would have though that *titles* should still match... maybe try the titlesearch extension, or whatever it's called.
[22:24:31] 	TitleKey you mean?
[22:25:14] 	03(mod) The robots.txt disallows logging in. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16355  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[22:29:35] 	guys, at some point, searching on my wiki stopped working
[22:29:43] 	upgrading doesn't help
[22:30:22] 	is there any way I can make a "fresh install", but keeping the pages (even the history can be discarded if I can get the seach feature back ) 
[22:30:25] 	?
[22:40:22] 	wladston, well, you could tell us what's not working with search
[22:40:44] 	chuck: well, it never returns anything
[22:40:56] 	what are you searching, and what should it have returned?
[22:40:58] 	even if I search the tittle of a page
[22:41:30] 	for example, I have a page whose title is "Projects"
[22:41:38] 	when I seach "Projects"
[22:41:42] 	it returns nothing
[22:41:57] 	in fact, it always returns nothing, no matter what is searched
[22:42:25] 	wow
[22:42:32] 	not it says this "For now, search function is not working. Please, navigate through the Wiki using this page instead"
[22:42:44] 	I think someone placed it there
[22:51:54] 	03(NEW) RSS/ Atom feeds use fully-qualified URIs rather than relative ones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16357 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (greenreaper)
[22:54:05] 	chuck: any idea ? 
[22:54:20] 	at this time
[22:54:32] 	I can only think of text-backuping the pages
[22:54:34] 	re-install
[22:54:47] 	and then manually insert the text for each page
[22:59:42] 	wladston, http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
[23:02:41] 	yeah, I know, reporting a bug is good
[23:02:50] 	but I really need a working website at this time!
[23:04:38] <[X]>	wladston, so report a bug
[23:05:15] 	I know how this bug thing is .... they normally take a year or two to get it fixed
[23:05:24] <[X]>	Unlike many other bug filing sites, we usually fix problematic bugs very fast
[23:05:33] 	wow
[23:05:42] 	great, I'm going to fill it
[23:06:46] 	14(DUP) Spam-blacklist bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16354  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[23:06:47] 	03(mod)  URLs should trigger the blacklist regardless of parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15582  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[23:09:10] <[X]>	By the way, wladston, what version of MediaWiki is it?
[23:12:32] 	03(NEW) Search stopped working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16358 major; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (wladston)
[23:13:11] 	[X], chuck :  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16358
[23:13:13] 	ahn
[23:13:17] 	what a nice bot
[23:16:56] 	Hello people
[23:19:35] 	I'm unable to get texvc working on my installation.  Running texvc from the command line is okay.
[23:20:15] 	..and texvc is executable by all users on the computer.
[23:23:45] 	I have the following extension: http://rafb.net/p/TGRc2t28.html, and within it there is a function called showInclude() which gets called when someone uses the tag {{Special:Contributors/{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}. How can I call this extension or function from my main php skin page?
[23:52:09] 	hi all, does anyone know how to use the profiler in mediawiki?
[23:54:50] 	i followed this guide but still no logs...? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_debug_MediaWiki
[23:58:46] 	Is the process able to save there?