[00:12:45] i'm pretty sure it is. i put the logfile path in wiki folder itself [00:13:12] how would i check this for sure? [00:17:37] hmm. i copied the coordinates templtaes from wikipedia but they give errors. [00:19:19] heh [00:19:31] that is about the most insane series of templates to try to copy [00:22:07] why?: [00:22:17] they give things like "Expression error" [00:22:25] http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Template:Coord [00:22:38] i downloaded them becuase i copied the country infobox, which apparently needed them [00:22:54] that's an example of what gives errors. it shows in Template:Infobox Country [00:26:11] why? because there are like dozens and dozens of sub-templates for various parameters [00:26:16] and many super-templates too [00:27:47] mmm, might be a tidy problem [00:28:01] see !tidy for despair [00:28:21] How would I access the database from LocalSettings.php? [00:29:34] !tidy [00:29:34] --mwbot-- Wikimedia uses HTML Tidy, which allows mixed html and wikitables inside parser functions and templates. This can often be confusing for people copying templates from Wikimedia projects. For more information about HTML Tidy, see . [00:30:00] anybody know? could I do a require_once( "$IP/includes/AutoLoader.php" ); ? [00:39:56] how do i install HTML Tidy? [00:41:01] i mean, is there an extension for mediawiki installations? [00:41:54] splarka do you know how i can get my mediawiki installation to use html tidy/ [00:47:30] RingtailedFox: dunno, I just know to complain to the site operators if things break because it is missing X_X [00:47:55] *Dantman|Sleeping hates tidy [00:48:22] i *am* the site operator, though [00:48:30] who do i complain to? :P [01:02:31] <[X]> LeonWP, you borked? [01:11:22] ... maybe ... [01:16:45] for some reason, my wiki installation hates tables....particular HTML ones that have and in them [01:16:47] how do i fix this? [01:19:38] You really need to explain what the problem is [01:19:52] my problem lies with http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Template:Coord ... it gives constant errors... and http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Country gives nothing but and tags everywhere... why is this?? [01:20:32] is that sufficient? [01:23:23] 03(mod) Cursor should be placed in the search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1864 (10bob) [01:28:19] no one here? [01:30:40] hello [01:30:45] RingtailedFox: it really sounds like a tidy problem, and no I can't help you install it [01:31:06] ok [01:32:53] there's a #tidy channel, but there's no one there [01:33:58] i see [01:40:04] who knows anything about adsense [02:00:53] Is there any example extension code for handling POST requests and such? [02:01:02] I want to make a quick extension to create a wiki [02:03:33] In what way? [02:04:05] there are already a few techniues for creating wiki [02:05:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Splarka/trunk [02:07:22] mmm... MonkeyScript [02:07:55] heh, amusing Splarka... [02:08:09] Dantman, not what I meant [02:08:27] I already have the system, I just need to know how to handle POST requests in an extension [02:08:37] With $wgRequest of course [02:08:59] Take a look at the Request class' API [02:10:23] ^_^ I've already got JSDF working to include JavaScript libraries... now should work on banana package management later [02:10:51] Splarka: a while ago someone came here and said they were running 1.2, what would that be? [02:10:57] walking [02:11:03] or crossing asia on elephants [02:11:13] feel free to continue the analogy, it is a wiki [02:11:37] I was gonna have trunk be John Denver or someone jumping off a building, but that seemed bad taste [02:11:53] i apparently have not rememberd how to install extensions [02:12:10] copy/pasting the require_once("$IP/extensions/whateverwhatever...." is breaking it [02:37:49] helpz plz [02:37:58] RTFM? [02:38:06] is there a special way i shoudl go about making an entire banner instead of just a logo? [02:42:45] 03aaron * r43564 10/trunk/phase3/includes/AjaxFunctions.php: doc typo [02:46:16] there are a bajillion people in here -_- [02:46:51] but no answersjs [02:49:16] Atvainojiet, bet jums ir sasnieguši latviešu MediaWiki atbalsta kanālu. Lūdzu rephrase jūsu jautājumu pareizi valodā. [02:50:37] No answers in *English*. [02:51:13] It's a website. Do whatever you would normally do to make a banner? [02:51:34] The skin files are in the skins directory if you wish to modify them (or make one). [02:51:55] Or, you can override the existing CSS and JS through the mechanisms described in the documentation. [02:53:17] Šie klinģerīši padara mani izslāpuši. :) [02:54:29] *GreenReaper hands Krimpet a glass of water and a few slices of caraway cheese. [02:55:24] There's some sauerkraut in the fridge as well if you get peckish. [03:03:43] <_Fru23_> !admin [03:03:43] --mwbot-- To recreate the admin user, run "php maintenance/createAndPromote.php" on the command line. [03:03:45] <_Fru23_> !op [03:03:45] --mwbot-- Help, ops! Ashar, brion, Charitwo, Cometstyles, domas, Eloquence, Fire, flyingparchment, Hashar, JeLuF, jeronim, jwales, MinuteElectron, Splarka, VasilievVV, Werdna [03:03:53] <_Fru23_> hello [03:03:56] _Fru23_: stop it [03:04:02] <[X]> _Fru23_, no one will help you here [03:04:15] <_Fru23_> Can someone unban me from the un block en chat? [03:04:15] _Fru23_: please see my PMs [03:06:47] !nop [03:06:47] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "nop". You might try: !nopackages [03:09:00] pardon me if I pull a domas [03:09:12] but when calling an op you'd better expect a ban [03:09:17] so what would be a css command that would successfully add a banner and another (if necessary) that would get rid of the logo [03:10:27] rule of thumb: don't use !op unless there is someone more annoying around than you (when you're using !op) [03:10:27] How did Charitwo get ops in here... [03:10:38] *[X] touts Splarka [03:10:39] MZMcBride: Why do you ask? [03:10:40] Landlord: You're asking in the wrong place. This is a channel that is able to help you with MediaWiki. Your question is about web design. Learn how to use CSS and edit web pages, or find someone else who knows how. [03:10:59] Charitwo: Just curious why of all people have them. :-) [03:11:04] +you. [03:11:15] Is there a problem? [03:11:20] hehe [03:11:49] Though I guess I also wonder why Cometstyles has them. [03:12:07] Reserve powers? [03:12:10] 9 VoABot2 +votiA [modified ? ago] [03:12:25] lol, my bot account is treated as the op ;) [03:12:27] *MZMcBride noticed that. You need to change your master nick. :P [03:13:03] Landlord: something like this: http://p.defau.lt/?Hke7jO5bhUED6mUkcu7b_A [03:13:41] hey [03:13:42] thanks [03:13:43] :D [03:13:50] *GreenReaper stabs Splarka for using quotes in url(), and terminating semicolons. [03:14:04] yes, green is the bit miser [03:14:12] *Splarka adds some whitespace to annoy him more [03:14:22] There already *is* whitespace! [03:14:29] *GreenReaper takes out all the spaces after the colons. [03:14:48] What's wrong with whitespace? [03:15:12] GreenReaper: http://p.defau.lt/?077zHMyIgyB9TOKa6CrFvw [03:15:25] The white space is the devil's work. [03:15:37] green likes snuggly CSS [03:15:37] Unclean! [03:15:49] and I used \s * 8 instead of \t [03:15:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css :P [03:15:53] nyah nyah [03:16:04] Four spaces and separate lines for everything. [03:16:18] *GreenReaper likes CSS that fits into iphone caches, unlike Monobook's. [03:16:56] Admittedly, I think chick is being used as the default for handhelds in the future, but still. [03:17:07] *Krimpet hopes GreenReaper doesn't come across [[Whitespace (programming language)]], else suffer a heart attack [03:17:59] Programming laguages are fine. But in CSS it's like padding your executables with NOPs everywhere. [03:18:32] Roll on Binary CSS. [03:19:05] is there a default password that mediawiki provides for the sysop when it's first installed [03:19:18] No. [03:19:23] no, you set the password when you configure it [03:19:24] crap. [03:19:25] You choose a password whilst installing [03:19:28] Frankly, this whole HTML thing is overrated. We could use a spanning tree with binary tokens. [03:19:28] The password is set when you install the software. [03:20:05] what happens if i don't know what that password is for some incredibly odd reason [03:20:33] <[X]> Landlord, you have shell access? [03:20:34] the forgot password link? [03:20:48] there's only an email password link, and it doesn't have an email on record for me yet -_- [03:21:03] Do you have database access [03:21:03] <[X]> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_reset_a_password.3F [03:21:11] yeah i have database access [03:21:20] You can set an email address for yourself [03:21:24] Or follow [X]'s link [03:21:34] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Resetting_passwords [03:21:38] setting the email sounds easier [03:21:39] My link is probably better. [03:21:40] how does i do [03:21:46] Or MZ's link [03:22:36] It'd be great if we could rewrite history and design wikitext from the ground up in something like TeX instead of butchered HTML [03:23:01] TeX isn't particularly intuitive for new users [03:24:53] neither is wikitext [03:25:01] i try running the command from [X]'s link and it's giving me a "PHP NOT UNDERSTOOD" error [03:25:15] <[X]> Try editing the database directly [03:25:22] 03(mod) URLs should trigger the blacklist regardless of parser functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15582 (10skjackey.tse) [03:25:31] where at [03:28:24] Landlord: There's a simple extension you can use. [03:28:54] <[X]> Landlord, it is on that link I gave you [03:31:30] MZMcBride, i installed the extension [03:31:34] but how do i access it if i cant log in [03:32:24] You can't login at all? [03:32:42] no i don't know what i set the sysop password as [03:32:44] which is really weird [03:33:19] Can the resetpassword right be assigned to anonymous users? 9.9 [03:34:14] i think aaron made a booboo in nickserv [03:34:16] yes, but not as a group [03:34:22] '*' [03:35:11] that is, you can set '*' a right, but can't set it as a group and assign it to anons [03:35:21] ^give [03:35:51] Right, but Landlord could set ['*'] ['resetpass'] = true; for a moment, reset the password, and then remove the right. [03:35:54] Perhaps. [03:36:11] mmm, although anon users and log entries = can of worms [03:38:04] yeah [03:38:05] ! [03:38:05] ... [03:38:09] :S [03:39:46] poor voa [03:39:57] Does the password reset extension have a log? [03:45:00] MZMcBride: I don't think it does [03:46:47] ok guys [03:46:51] i tried running the SQL query [03:47:14] and got a "dbname.user table does not exist" error [03:47:37] so i tried replacing "UPDATE user" with "UPDATE $wgDBPrefix_user" like it said [03:47:50] i have a problem with with http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Template:Coord ... it gives constant errors... and http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Country gives nothing but and tags everywhere... why is this?? [03:47:51] but just got another error [03:51:56] Landlord: here's how you can update the email address: mysql> update user set user_email='sample@example.com' where user_id=1; [03:52:15] assuming you don't use prefixes, also update the user_id and user_email as needed [03:52:59] i'm still getting the "table 'landlord_wikihuskers.user' doesn't exist [03:53:13] do a show databases [03:53:38] do you have landlord_wikihuskers in there? [03:53:45] yes [03:53:51] that's what i'm in right now [03:54:56] ok, if you do a describe tables do you see user in there? also try describe user [03:55:39] how do i "do" those [03:55:40] 03(NEW) The page counter could not update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16359 04CRIT; normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (skjackey.tse) [03:55:57] Landlord: from the mysql> prompt, you have to get in mysql [03:56:14] 03(mod) The page counter could not update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16359 (10skjackey.tse) [03:56:22] or are you accessing from some other admin tool? [03:56:31] umm [03:56:35] -_- [03:56:47] i just logged in to the db url through firefox [03:57:29] oh, so it's probably phpmyadmin or something? [03:57:38] yeah [03:57:41] phpmyadmin [03:58:05] that should be easy, so you can select your database from the top left right? [03:58:19] yes i'm already in my db [03:59:08] click the browse tab [03:59:27] actually click the user table first then browse [03:59:49] the list of tables is on the left column [04:00:10] wiki_user? [04:00:38] yeah [04:00:48] k [04:01:20] that's your problem by the way, you're using prefixes that's why the update statement didn't work, it should have been landlord_wikihuskers.wiki_user [04:01:47] good to know [04:02:00] (i know nothing about working with db's) [04:02:15] after you click browse you should see your users, there should be a pencil icon next to your admin user for editing, click that [04:02:26] k [04:02:59] do you get a form with the fields and values? [04:03:06] yep [04:03:28] update the user_email, and probably the user_email_authenticated [04:03:36] hopefully those two are all that's needed [04:04:00] um [04:04:19] which infobox do i put my email in [04:04:25] the one is justa drop down with stuff [04:04:33] and the other brings up an explorer window when i click in it [04:04:54] it should be a text area field, under the Value column [04:05:30] a lot of them are text fields, but this one says "Binary - do not edit" ont he top of it and it's not a text entry, but a file entry" [04:06:02] I think you're looking at the wrong row, follow the user_email row [04:06:13] i am man [04:06:17] want a print screen [04:06:31] sure [04:08:27] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/3033135785_6473bdc887.jpg?v=0 [04:08:39] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/3033135785_48b2b834fb_o.jpg [04:08:41] * [04:10:51] which version are you using? mine looks different, I'm not sure if they've changed the schema [04:11:05] idk? [04:13:13] how do i get side-information, like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ ? [04:13:22] i wish to put some side-links into the wiki :) [04:13:28] on my wiki, that is [04:14:05] RingtailedFox: edit the MediaWiki:Sidebar page [04:14:10] ok [04:14:24] Landlord: I'm afraid I don't know how the blob thing works [04:15:57] super [04:18:13] HA [04:18:15] n/m [04:18:15] i got it [04:18:28] what did you do? [04:18:58] i installed the resetpassword extension and just made it available to anon's [04:19:24] haha, ok [04:40:06] how do i edit the footer? [04:40:26] i mean, i want to add a link to the General Public License along with the disclaimer and stuff [04:41:39] RingtailedFox: There's a license variable to set [04:41:50] ok [04:42:06] i'd also like to add a link to my main page of my website (www.mobianlegends.com) [04:42:16] $wgRightsText = 'GNU FDL'; [04:42:16] $wgRightsURL = ' [04:42:25] and the link to the copy of the GNU FDL [04:42:30] and a '; [04:42:45] I'd suggest dropping that in MediaWiki:Sidebar. [04:43:11] really? ok [04:43:27] You can do stuff like ** http://wikifur.com/|International portal [04:43:30] it's going to be a video-game-oriented wiki, but i'd like to remind people to keep it open [04:43:35] murr :) [04:45:14] what's the css id for the content box [04:45:42] In fact WikiFur's makes a good example, you can see how pages linked by messages, pages linked by plain text and bare URLs are used: http://en.wikifur.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&action=edit [04:46:20] It's in the source of the page . . . perhaps you want coluimn-content? [04:46:26] *column-content [04:46:38] i don't know tbh [04:46:57] this is odd: http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Category:WikiMobius_project_pages [04:46:58] Depends on exactly what you want. I would advise using something like Firebug to identify the location to modify. [04:47:02] why is About listed twice? :P [04:47:19] what is firebug [04:47:49] That's a good question, RingtailedFox. [04:48:11] Landlord: Less of a good question. Use google for "what is X" and you'll probably find it. :-) [04:48:18] yeahyeah [04:48:45] this is odd: http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Country it gives a BUNCH of errors, such as duplicating and , and having a ton of tags.... if i need tidy to fix that, i need to know where to get it and install it [04:48:53] or just "view source" [04:49:29] RingtailedFox: http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ [04:50:30] so, i unpack it, upload it to the extensions area? [04:52:06] ahh, found the GPL [04:52:07] http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License [04:52:14] *GFDPL [04:52:15] *DL [04:52:28] I think there's more than that, but I've never installed it, so I don't know [04:52:38] $wgRightsPage = "/wiki/GNU_Free_Documentation_License" [04:52:44] would that be the correct syntax? [04:54:41] what controls the edit/discussion/etc. tabs in css [04:57:46] Landlord: p-cactions [04:57:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/monobook/main.css [04:58:03] thanks [04:58:34] #p-cactions, and the ul, li, a, li.selected, .new a, li a:hover, h5, etc [05:01:12] what would be a good caption for the GFDL link? [05:01:24] i mean, something that people that have never been to the site before can easily undersatnd [05:01:27] *understand [05:01:42] "content license"? [05:35:53] would it be possible to css the edit/discussion/etc. tabs to the right of the content box? [05:36:05] probably [05:36:24] werdnum, do you know how to install tidyhtml into mediawiki? [05:36:56] Landlord: you'd just have to undo all the stuff main.css did to them [05:37:25] and then stick them to the right after giving the content some right-margin [05:37:26] !tidy | RingtailedFox [05:37:26] --mwbot-- RingtailedFox: Wikimedia uses HTML Tidy, which allows mixed html and wikitables inside parser functions and templates. This can often be confusing for people copying templates from Wikimedia projects. For more information about HTML Tidy, see . [05:37:31] (sounds nightmarish) [05:37:38] i tried that [05:37:50] the reason i'm asking is becuase of this: http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Template:Coord [05:38:02] it's screwing up http://wiki.mobianlegends.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Country [05:38:41] it's best to use RPMs becuase they try to automate things for you, AND if you are missing dependencies, the RPM database tries to search for the missing dependencies and installs them if it finds them [05:39:35] how do i set up HTML Tidy? [05:39:40] it says i have to, on that page [05:41:10] "sudo apt-get install tidy"? [05:41:31] my website is a shared host. i don't have root access. just normal shell user account access [05:42:07] I guess you could try compiling it from source. [05:42:20] Shared accounts often make that tricky, though. [05:42:50] well working within main.css' pre-declared stuff [05:43:01] i got the caction stuff to the right [05:43:06] can i get the personal stuff to the left? [05:43:13] heh [05:43:21] can i use negative values for distance [05:43:35] well... [05:43:39] 03(FIXED) Create a channel on Wikimedia IRC that logs newly created/ unified accounts on all wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15276 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:43:40] maybe you want to look at what rtl.css does [05:43:48] AaronSchulz: I see you there. [05:44:02] the only thing is, where do i GET the source? [05:44:05] do you mean the left of the top?, or left next to the sidebar? [05:44:26] what does it do [05:44:35] the left o the top [05:44:56] basically i want to interchange the default positions of cactions and the personal stuff [05:46:28] RingtailedFox: are you sure tidyhtml is the solution? maybe you didn't copy all the templates? that thing is a monster [05:46:45] i copied everything that i could find over [05:46:54] i don't know what i am missing, if anything [05:47:18] aha i got it [05:47:24] Landlord: rtl.css does this http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D8%A9_%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%BA%D8%A9 [05:49:08] see, it even did that with Template:Infobox_Country alone (with all the table codes popping up) [05:53:34] RingtailedFox: you might need raw html enabled or something [05:54:38] ok [05:54:41] how do i do that? [05:56:17] note that this could have security implications, you place "$wgRawHtml=true;" in your LocalSettings.php file [05:56:25] without the "" [05:56:33] I don't think that's the problem [05:56:38] what could be it? [05:56:39] div/tr/td/table are all whitelisted [05:56:41] http://www.huskers.mozor.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css [05:56:43] thoughts [05:56:43] you can get tidy here http://sourceforge.net/projects/tidy [05:56:52] also what are your guys' resolutions [05:56:56] 1440x900 [05:57:06] raw html also only works inside of which those templates don't use [05:57:13] what does that look like to you RingtailedFox [05:57:45] looks cool, but your toolbox is screwed up [05:57:50] yeah i know [05:57:58] you might wanna edit MediaWiki:Sidebar [05:58:18] eventualy [05:58:53] look again plz [05:58:54] hard refresh [05:59:07] and i was just looking for comments on the banner and positioning of top buttons mostly [06:00:00] fixed! [06:00:58] how does it look :P [06:00:59] i mean, landlord's problem's fixxed [06:01:01] looks great [06:01:06] think so? [06:01:34] i'm getting a weird glitch [06:01:45] the personal links shift right a bit when i go to edit a page [06:01:53] Landlord: not for me, the tabs are all the way to the right, a horizontal scrollbar shows up [06:02:26] really? [06:02:30] how long does it scroll [06:03:18] about 800px [06:03:26] oh jeez [06:03:33] let me try something [06:03:40] i hope it's the buttons and not the banner that is making it scroll [06:03:41] what's your res [06:04:19] 1400x1050 [06:04:26] ... [06:04:37] mine is 1680x1050 and the tabs don't scroll at all [06:04:50] maybe it's my fonts or something [06:05:06] could you screen cap for me? [06:06:23] Landlord: just upgraded my OS, can't find the screen capture program atm [06:06:41] it should just be a button on your keyboard? [06:06:58] the button is there, not the app mapped to it :) [06:07:09] i was unaware there is an app mapped to it [06:07:10] i don't have one [06:07:56] It depends on the OS [06:08:36] On windows it just copies some sort of internal formatted image (likely a BMP) into the clipboard [06:08:39] http://www.huskers.mozor.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css [06:08:56] why is there that white strip right under the banner [06:09:30] For me using Gnome it opens a Gnome program that lets me save it under a name, gives me a preview, and so on [06:09:48] I can even use a keycombo to screenshot only a single window [06:10:34] http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=huskersjw8.png [06:10:58] The requested URL was not found [06:10:58] images/blocked.gif [06:11:14] you have some adblocker or something? [06:11:21] oh crap [06:11:22] i forgot [06:11:26] imageshack is filtered right now [06:11:28] flickr? [06:11:47] i need to remember to have that unfiltered [06:13:28] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/3034220128_41daeb4539_o.png [06:13:37] let me know once you have so I can delete it [06:13:51] whoa [06:13:54] your text is bigg [06:14:22] yeah, I don't like to squint :) [06:14:45] idk how to achieve what i want but have it work for all resolutions [06:14:49] i just wonder what else i should do [06:15:01] http://www.huskers.mozor.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css [06:15:07] anyone know why that white stripe underneath the banner is there? [06:15:19] RingtailedFox: I'd say start taking stuff out, like I said those templates are a monster, good luck [06:15:19] 03aaron * r43565 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (8 files): [06:15:19] * Use edit token on submit [06:15:19] * Rename getNotEditable -> getUneditable [06:15:19] * Whitespace/style tweaks [06:15:19] * Add comments [06:16:31] can i position that stuff with percentages, instead of em's [06:18:30] ok [06:19:57] you probably want to float it, rather than absolutely position it [06:20:11] #p-cactions {top: 11.5em; left: 80em;} [06:20:11] well if i absolutely position it with percentages it will be alright [06:20:37] not for various resolutions [06:20:57] how wouldn't it? [06:20:58] what does do? [06:21:12] shoot you're right [06:21:12] wtf [06:21:28] so where it was at the left, you want to do that to the right... [06:21:41] what? [06:21:56] heh [06:22:53] if i come back in 15 minutes will you explain that to me? [06:22:54] :P [06:22:56] *Splarka thinks [06:25:39]