[00:01:55] {| cellpadding="3" style="float:right; border-spacing:1px; background-color:#fbfbff; font-size:95%; margin:0 0 0.5em 1em; width:28em;" < this wo't work [00:02:52] 03aaron * r43693 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Category.php CategoryPage.php): [00:03:04] * Remove incomplete isFileCacheable(), the parent one is fine [00:03:04] * Break long line [00:04:10] nessmodiah: what doesn't it do that you expect? [00:05:33] Splarka i just want round corners in a mediawiki-table [00:06:34] hmm, none of that style seems to be an attempt at furthering your goal [00:07:15] 03brion * r43694 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/codereview.css: gray the text of deferred revs in the list to give a visual cue [00:10:11] nessmodiah: if you don't mind browser incompatability... [00:10:37] {| style="border:2px solid black;-moz-border-radius:1em;border-radius:1em;" [00:11:31] 03aaron * r43695 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add FeedItem::stripComment() and remove duplication [00:14:38] nummy, removing duplication! :D [00:19:45] 03aaron * r43696 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: [00:19:46] * Remove

[00:19:46] * Use count variables since they are already there [00:20:07] *Splarka gives Aaron cookie [00:20:21] 04(REOPENED) Option: Change the background color (texvc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8 summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:21:01] arrg, that damn cockroach [00:21:16] *Splarka takes off his shoe and whacks bug 8 until it dies again [00:22:26] color: #666; [00:22:48] hmmm [00:23:05] :D [00:24:06] AaronSchulz: new search looks purty. [00:25:12] Simetrical: how about

defaulting to #ffffff
[00:25:30] no interference with TeX markup
[00:25:34] Splarka, hmm.
[00:25:42] Intriguing proposition.
[00:25:49] since it wouldn't be in the markup you'd need to find some way to add it into the rendering hashes
[00:26:03] well
[00:26:30] If we were to abandon IE5/Mac or whatever stupid browser can't handle transparent backgrounds, we could have the backgrounds be transparent with CSS rules controlling the actual color.
[00:26:30] I mean, set the image to transparent color
[00:26:30] That would be ideal.
[00:26:35] and use

[00:26:35] Then you could just do style="background-color: whatever" if you liked. [00:26:35] hmmmmm could do [00:26:35] Ah, yes. [00:26:59] i thought it was IE6 that couldn't do translate backgrounds [00:27:08] png [00:27:08] Simetrical: for a long time gecko browsers on linux and possibly windows had this problem too. should probably double-check it's been fixed :) [00:27:09] er, alpha png [00:27:21] yksinaisyyteni: IE6 will at least obey the background color specified in the PNG :) [00:27:21] it does simple transparency same as .gif [00:27:49] ah, right [00:27:49] IE6 just ignores alpha channels. If you make the PNG right, it will just alias poorly, nothing worse than that. [00:27:49] (are the math png 8 bit?) [00:27:57] but math images are anti-aliased, aren't they? [00:28:02] Splarka, I hope they aren't 32-bit . . . [00:28:02] Simetrical: it is actually possible to put in an alpha channel and a single bit transparency, but not practical [00:28:06] Any ideas why I get this error message every page load? Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$Exec_master_log_pos in /home/andrew/wm-svn/phase3/includes/db/Database.php on line 1922 [00:28:18] Splarka, why not? [00:28:36] because very few png-creation routines allow it (although all browsers support it) [00:29:01] http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/ [00:29:24] hmm [00:29:51] ie6 is a non-issue, guys [00:30:01] as long as the png specifies a background color we're fine with ie6 [00:30:04] even that is a non issue [00:30:17] as long as the png supports 8 bit transparency [00:30:45] which it doesn't because it contains arbitrary colors and is 32-bit :) [00:30:46] hey, im creating an extemsion, and i want to know how to parse wikitext and turn it into html [00:30:50] unless you then quantize it and create an 8-bit palette in a postprocessing step [00:31:14] but, should the default to a background of white, a site-specified color, or a simple CSS class defined in shared.css? [00:31:14] which can potentially look like shit depending how many colors it uses [00:31:32] besides, 8-bit palette with binary transparency looks terrible [00:31:33] Chiggins: What context? [00:31:35] brion: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/ if you feel very adventurous [00:31:50] werdnum: what do you mean what context? [00:31:58] Splarka: if you try very hard you can make funky things yes, but that doesn't change that 8-bit palettes suck :) [00:32:10] also, you can do binary transparency with true color [00:32:29] ...if you're insane [00:33:05] Chiggins: well, what are you doing with the wikitext? [00:33:50] werdnum: im creating a "spoiler tag" ... '''Text''' [00:33:55] werdnum: but whenever i use the parser that im using now some buggy text appears on the page [00:34:40] brion,

needs more than 8-bit color?
[00:34:43] It's just grayscale . . .
[00:34:44] Chiggins: use $wgParser->recursiveTagParse()
[00:34:52] You're right that we can just let IE6 render the white backgrounds, though, screw them.
[00:34:52] Simetrical: i think you can specify colors
[00:34:56] i have that recollection anyway
[00:34:57] *brion 	wonders if that's entirely true
[00:35:22] but to render nice you'd want full alpha anyway
[00:39:29] ?
[00:39:34]!
[00:41:35] Fatal error: Call to a member function get() on a non-object in /home/andrew/wm-svn/phase3/includes/db/LoadMonitor.php on line 69
[00:41:35] ugh, wtf
[00:41:35] Heh, HTML5 has some entertaining interfaces.  The canPlayType(type) method must return the string "no" if type is a type that the user agent knows it cannot render; it must return "probably" if the user agent is confident that the type represents a media resource that it can render if used in with this audio or video element; and it must return "maybe" otherwise.
[00:41:35] all I did was install GD!
[00:42:05] :P
[00:42:05] Simetrical: LOL
[00:42:06] werdnum: did you *un*instalal mysql module? :)
[00:42:12] brion: the 'null object' is $wgMemc
[00:42:12] O_O
[00:42:20] that don't sound so hot
[00:42:45] changing to CACHE_NONE keeps the same error.
[00:43:16] *werdnum 	adds if (!$wgMemc) { die( wfBacktrace() ); }
[00:43:34] # LocalSettings.php line 153 calls efConfigureSetup()
[00:43:34] bug in Configure extension :)
[00:45:26] brion: relatedly, what does this mean? I tried running SHOW SLAVE STATUS manually, and it has this field...
[00:45:39]

Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$Exec_master_log_pos in /home/andrew/wm-svn/phase3/includes/db/Database.php on line 1922
[00:45:45] werdnum: it means something's wrong and the property isn't set [00:46:04] ... [00:46:08] are you manually construcitng your db load balancer setup? [00:46:29] Yeah [00:46:29] ah [00:46:30] do you not have 'process' right in your user? [00:46:39] or... replication? [00:46:39] yeah that's the one [00:46:43] I gave REPLICATION CLIENT [00:46:43] and SUPER, I think. [00:47:06] hmmmm that should do it i think then [00:47:43] *dunnos* [00:47:52] meh, I'll look at it [00:51:00] http://extensiontesting.blogspot.com/ announcement for a test environment for extensions ... we are going to blog about our experiences and results [00:55:09] what function would i use to parse something like '''this bolds''' to make it this bolds [00:55:52] you could use #tag to convert your parser tag to a parser function, which would do that automatically [00:55:58] what do ya mean by that [00:56:05] i dont know mediawiki all that well [00:56:24] where is the database file? i cant find the configureation file that holds the database information? [00:56:27] ahh, when created by an extension hook is usually for non-wikicode markup [00:56:42] for example preserves whitespace [00:56:46] and has its own custom markup [00:57:38] a parser function is different, it gives your extension the post-preprocess/parse from the input, for example {{urlencode:}} or {{#special:}} or {{#if:}} [00:57:48] but parser functions are not as simple as parser tags [00:58:19] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Tag_extensions and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parser_functions [00:59:05] however, you can turn a parser tag into a parser function, that is.. you can make your extension see the post-rendered input [00:59:21] by using the #tag parser function [00:59:53] well, all im really looking to do is convert the text between to HTML if wikitext is in there [00:59:54] 03(mod) New tool to delimit scientific notation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15677 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [01:00:31] so if you write your as normal, you can have it parse the text inside with: [01:00:32] {{#tag:spoiler|'''this bolds'''}} [01:00:51] Chiggins: $wgParser->recursiveTagParse [01:00:51] I told you before... [01:01:15] werd, they should just write #spoiler in that case, no? [01:01:33] not necessarily [01:01:46] it's an issue of what markup you prefer. [01:01:58] I think is nice than awful template markup :) [01:02:21] bah [01:02:53] *Splarka {{werdnum}} [01:05:02] ahhh, ok, i understand now.. it works [01:05:11] thanks guys :D [01:06:47] :) [01:06:47] thanks werdnum, not thanks Splarka :P [01:11:43] werdnum: you sure? maybe they went with #tag [01:12:35] nyah [01:15:09] $text = $parser->recursiveTagParse( htmlspecialchars( $input ) ); [01:15:09] :D [01:16:03] :D [01:16:25] *werdnum wins. [01:16:30] in_array [01:16:56] Chiggins: no htmlspecialchars [01:17:01] If you want wikitext, you shouldn't escape it. [01:17:35] Wikitext will do that for you. [01:18:06] oh, even better, sweet, thanks [01:19:07] do any of you two have msn just in case i have more questions in the future? xD [01:21:07] Usually, contacting developers directly over IM is frowned upon. [01:22:07] Not least because 1/ We don't know everything; 2/ We don't have a responsibility to help you out, and it creates a sense of obligation; 3/ We won't be around all the time [01:24:43] Cell phone or snail mail are the best way to get in touch with developers. :D [01:24:43] alrighty, fair enough [01:24:44] thanks a bunch again [01:25:33] "Feel free to stop by our offices, houses, and favorte bars to bug us with questions. Be sure to not wear stab resistant clothing." [01:26:38] mwahahaha [01:26:40] i think my latest evil code for centralnotice anon variants is actually doing what i want it to [01:26:53] *brion fires up IE to see if it works [01:28:32] bah, the meanies at en.wikibooks didn't like my randbook rewrite (because the bug was fixed in their dirty ajax->dpl->xml list-grab) [01:28:46] alright...i'm gonna install batik [01:28:56] dirty dirty ajax [01:31:13] the dirty part is, their only list of books is a page with 38 calls to , so they grab the rendered output of that X_X [01:31:45] heh [01:32:18] woo, and to test ie6... [01:35:10] wow, the centralnotice works in IE5 [01:35:27] doesn't collapse of course, heh [01:38:12] 03brion * r43697 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/SpecialNoticeText.php: [01:38:12] Tweak around how the collapse/expansion is done, set up distinct styles which can be used to make user and anon alternates for the collapsed version more cleanly. [01:38:12] .siteNoticeBig -- big version (as before) [01:38:12] .siteNoticeSmall -- small version (as before) [01:38:12] .siteNoticeSmallUser -- small version showing for logged-in users only [01:38:21] .siteNoticeSmallAnon -- small version showing for anons only [01:46:00] 03aaron * r43698 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: [01:46:00] * Make for loop faster [01:46:00] * Don't show incomplete prefix links [01:46:00] * Show the 'project' namespaces [01:46:00] * Tweak table margins [01:47:27] whee [01:47:27] *brion-away dinners [01:47:53] O_O [01:48:54] alright. now i have batik and java extracted to their respective folders... [01:48:54] how do i configure them? [01:59:30] hey Pathoschild [01:59:56] Hello. [02:00:00] brion-away: isn't it, like, 5pn? [02:00:01] pm* [02:00:01] who has dinner then? [02:00:21] srsly [02:02:03] 03(NEW) HTMLFileCache's $mFileCache is initialized too late - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16388 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (lambert) [02:02:29] werdnum: 6:01 [02:02:39] My stomach has no concept of time. [02:02:48] how do i configure mediawiki to use batik and java for SVG rendering? [02:03:05] ah, yes, 6 [02:03:29] I guess 6 isn't as obscene :p [02:03:29] TZ=America/Los_Angeles date [02:03:50] hi guys [02:06:25] hi [02:06:33] do i put this in localsettings.php: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSVGConverters ? [02:06:46] thaat array stuff [02:23:01] 03(mod) Form parser doesn't handle symbols correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16384 (10N/A) [02:46:23] 03(mod) Form parser doesn't handle symbols correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16384 (10yaron57) [03:42:50] 03(mod) Form parser doesn't handle symbols correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16384 (10N/A) [03:43:00] hello again Krimpet [03:43:13] 'evening again, werdnum. :) [03:46:44] does PHP CLI have no memory limit? :/ [03:54:06] <[X]> No, werdnum, it does [03:54:06] <[X]> I've experienced memory limit many times [03:54:26] there are not talks about Watkins's Q-Learning, Fuzzy Modified Connectionist Q-Learning, ... [03:54:37] http://www.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk/home/chrisw/thesis.html [03:54:58] http://www.ars-journal.com/International-Journal-of-Advanced-Robotic-Systems/Volume-1/251-262.pdf [03:54:58] http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.17.2539 [03:54:58] <[X]> maxote, huh? [03:56:20] ugh, I can't make PHP GD OOM even with a 20M png [03:56:22] it uses like 6kb [03:57:09] <[X]> maxote, #mediawiki and #wikimedia-tech are not the places to report problems with enwiki articles [03:58:01] then, what? [03:58:01] #wikipedia [03:58:01] or the talk page of the article in question. [03:58:01] thanks [03:58:02] heh [04:05:24] noobs [04:14:24] also, #wikipedia-en [04:17:48] can someone help me with configuring mediawiki to use batik? [04:36:50] hello [04:37:08] I got this message : Table './ekopediafr/objectcache' is marked as crashed and should be repaired [04:37:08] http://fr.ekopedia.org/Special:Recentchanges [04:37:16] What can I do? [04:37:51] depuis la fonction « MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doquery ». MySQL a renvoyé l’erreur « 145 : Table './ekopediafr/objectcache' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (127.0.0.1) ». [04:46:56] mysqlcheck -r ekopedia objectcache [04:46:56] Done! [04:46:56] :) [06:29:05] hi [06:29:56] New to MediaWiki and PHP, looking to fix a bug; any suggestions? [06:34:16] 03(NEW) Notes as references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16389 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (hofmanj) [06:34:33] !debug | CTS [06:34:33] --mwbot-- CTS: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [06:35:10] Thanks, I'll take a look at 16389 [06:36:07] hmm [06:36:17] the lag doesn't seem to be mwbot's fault, took me 30 seconds to whois it [06:36:33] *Splarka senses freenode lag [06:36:47] Couldn't that just be TS lag? [06:37:03] toolserver lag can't make /whois slower on freenode [06:38:09] A /whois pings the TS to get the data back, no... [06:38:26] no, it doesn't [06:38:26] /whois Foo -> local irc server, /whois . foo -> remote irc server [06:38:27] /ctcp foo bar -> remote client [06:39:34] edumacation [06:39:34] right.. whois asks the local server, or the remote server, but never the client [06:39:39] So the remote server stores the data? [06:39:39] some masochist should ping #mediawiki [06:40:12] MZMcBride: data on clients is stored on the server the client is connected to, and some of it (not all) also on remote servers [06:40:12] the whois shows server-known data on the user [06:40:30] (for example, idle time is only available from the server the client is connected to) [06:40:30] Hmm. Fascinating. [06:40:38] information that the user gives the server on connect, information the server derives about the user, and information about the user from current activities [06:40:38] But CTCP requests hit the client? [06:40:47] yes [06:40:47] ctcp = client-to-client-protocol [06:40:47] Aha. [06:41:21] Well that makes far more sense. :-) [06:42:50] also, clients can't tell when being whoised, unless they're paranoid irc operators [06:42:50] watching people whois you is creepy [06:44:11] uhoh, whoised mwbot 40 seconds ago... [06:44:12] [mwbot PING reply]: 59secs [06:46:18] hmm, freenode disabled /trace [06:46:23] oh shit [06:46:31] cogent down? [06:46:40] all of it? unlikely [06:46:57] mmm, not down [06:47:04] but showing 80% availability last hour [06:47:06] http://scoreboard.keynote.com/scoreboard/Main.aspx?Login=Y&Username=public&Password=public [06:47:33] mm, only incoming traffic though [06:48:33] good ping though ^_^ [06:49:56] numbers still dropping [06:50:33] the internet just heard Ted Stevens lost reelection and is sad [06:58:04] ugh, average availability has dropped to 77% [07:01:54] 75%... am I being chicken little.. [07:03:31] so gallery2 is giving me a shitload of problems and i was wondering if it would be a stupid idea or not to use mediawiki to replace it. i have about 40000 photos i would need to upload and am on a shared server. would the software be able to run this? and is there any way to upload more than 1 image at a time? [07:07:22] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:ImportImages.php might help [07:27:41] Hi. I'm working on an SSO plugin for my university, and I'm having truly strange errors. [07:28:36] http://pastebin.ca/1261196 is the error, and the dump at the top is a print_r($user). [07:28:36] http://pastebin.ca/1261195 is the offending code, a hook in AutoAuthenticate. [07:29:29] And I've updated it to LoadFromSession, with a small wrapper. [07:30:13] My guess is that even though my User is getting filled right, I'm either not doing it soon enough, or I'm not calling something else. [07:31:31] Probably not the absolute best time to come in here with a question like that. Most people who would be able to answer won't be awake for another six hours or so. [07:32:14] Ah. [07:32:28] Well, I'm not really going anywhere for a while. Figured you guys would be the best place to ask. [07:35:06] how can I force some horizontal space, other than using ? [07:35:44] something which takes a width parameter [07:35:49] has to be inline, too, like [07:36:27] foobar [07:37:02] width and margin don't work as expected, for inline [07:37:02] but padding does [07:37:36] Isn't there a magic word for padding? [07:39:29] like foo{{padleft:|5| }}bar ? heh [07:39:29] doesn't work there... [07:40:24] hmm [07:40:24] oh, right, it does work like that... tried to add an empty which didn't work [07:41:07] Splarka, why should margin not work like expected? It does for me [07:42:16] lch: Which browser? :3 [07:42:16] FF3 [07:42:17] lch: if the span is empty it... well, doesn't work the same in all browsers [07:42:17] ic [07:42:34] in that case I'll just fill it :) [07:43:41] FF2 in quirks, and IE before IE6, won't work as expected with inline margin IIRC. [07:43:41] hmm [07:44:24] plus mediawiki sometimes strips empty spans [07:46:47] [07:46:47] might make a nice template [07:47:31] <_Agony> is this known issue: I changed fiwikipedia user Orri (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Orri) name to Epiq (http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Epiq) and after rename user was able to send message with old username (see http://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:K%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4tunnuksen_vaihto/pyynn%C3%B6t&curid=553180&action=history) [07:48:35] <_Agony> He forgot to logout and received SQL error from "User::saveSettings�. Error was �1062: Duplicate entry 'Orri' [07:48:59] <_Agony> (but was able to send message with his old username) [07:57:44] <_wooz> lo [08:06:10] Gentlemen, sorry for bothering you. The problem was on our SSO's end. [08:06:27] Have a good night. [08:25:53] Hi, is it possible to upload an image that links to a URL? seems like a trivial thing in HTML, but how do you do it in wiki? [08:26:04] I understand that the current template call limit for Wikipedia is about 500 or so. I am an admin on my friend's wikipedia, but our current template call limit is 100. How does one increase this number? [08:26:21] *wiki [08:28:35] [[Extension:Click]] I believe [08:28:35] !externallink [08:28:35] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "externallink". [08:28:35] found on Wikimedia [08:28:36] *MediaWiki [08:28:36] (give mwbot a minute to respond) [08:28:36] oop [08:28:45] !imagelink [08:28:45] --mwbot-- In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. [08:28:45] *Splarka hides [08:32:05] Daedalus969: I believe the only things in that venue set to 500 are for expensive parser function limits, see $wgMaxIfExistCount and $wgExpensiveParserFunctionLimit [08:32:15] thanks for the info [08:32:52] might aslo check $wgMaxTemplateDepth and $wgMaxPPExpandDepth [08:36:40] 03aaron * r43699 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: [08:36:40] * Checkbox fix [08:36:40] * Remove unused var [08:36:40] * Add $this->sk field [08:36:40] * Tweak code style [08:36:40] * Adding missing wfProfileOut( __METHOD__ ); [08:45:31] 03siebrand * r43700 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.i18n.php: Update 'coll-save_category' once more. Refer to a category in the content language, and localise 'category'. [08:52:24] hi. I'm still looking for someone, helping me to find out, why my mediawiki installation is badly slow (about 3 sec for normal page, 10 sec for recentchanges) [08:53:08] is it all installed on one machine, or are any fileservers involved? [08:54:31] one machine [08:54:48] are DNS lookups fast? [08:55:08] hm, how do i test this ? [08:55:53] enter the IP address of your test client into the /etc/hosts of the server, so it doesn't have to use DNS lookups, and see if that makes any difference [08:57:45] I have no idea what your setup is like, so I'm only guessing wild. Most computers should be able, but some network delays and timeouts (NFS, DNS, ...) can ruin things badly, sometimes. [08:59:21] hm, this would be a delay getting the page from server to client [08:59:47] hi [08:59:47] have a q [08:59:53] actually the time written in the source of the page is allready big: about 3 secs for the mainpage [09:00:01] i enabled the profiling, to search further, but it doesnt help me up to now [09:00:03] if I set a projecet ns to "Foo" and I run the wiki and some pages in Foo:name are created. How can I change project ns "Foo" to "Foo2"? [09:00:33] Main Page is [09:00:34] toka, is there any contents in your database, i.e. any articles? Did you create all indexes? [09:01:00] i have used the web-based install [09:01:33] how do i check, if all indexes are created ? [09:02:34] there is some content in the database [09:02:37] if it helps, i could paste some output of phpmyadmin [09:02:45] did you import tens of thousands of articles from a copy of Wikipedia? Or is the database near empty? [09:03:36] its almost empty [09:03:36] take a look: http://www.publicprivateproperty.org/wiki [09:04:13] 03siebrand * r43701 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (33 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-11-19 09:50 CET) [09:08:12] yes, it is slow [09:08:46] 03siebrand * r43702 10/trunk/extensions/ (85 files in 66 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-11-19 09:50 CET) [09:09:04] current load is at 0.2, other websites are running fine [09:09:21] tut mir leid, im moment weiss ich nichts mehr [09:09:59] ok, vielleicht findet sich später jemand, der weiter helfen kann ... [09:10:35] what about to move all pages from "Foo" ns, than rename it via localsettings.php and then move it back? [09:10:40] 03aaron * r43703 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: More fixes and consistency tweaks [09:25:09] hey. i'm investigation the possibility of moving a wiki of mine to a web hotel. the hotel has mod_rewrite enabled and allows such rules in a .htaccess, but i don't think they allow customer requests to change the httpd.conf. [09:25:44] however, what i would like (and am using on my own server right now) are URLs like foo.com/Page_name [09:25:47] at the moment i'm doing this with lighttpd rewrite rules.. does anyone know if it is at all possible to do such rewriting using .htaccess mod_rewrite rules? [09:26:21] !shorturl [09:26:21] --mwbot-- To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [09:26:21] at e.g. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/sub_directory/wiki/Page_Title_--_.htaccess they describe how to do rewriting using .htaccess. [09:26:22] but there they use URLs like e.g. http://www.example.com/music/wiki/Main_Page, which is why i ask. [09:26:40] i've used lighttpd for so long, so i'm not sure what's possible with Apache's mod_rewrite and .htaccess. [09:27:21] yea, i've looked through all the examples but haven't find anyone that uses page names directly after the hostname with .htaccess rewriting, which is why i'm suspecting it's not possible. [09:28:32] anyone know if it would be possible to take the example from the URL i pasted and use / as RewriteBase and a rule like e.g. ^(.*)$ ./wiki/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] ? [09:29:05] (with the MediaWiki installation in wiki/ in the document root). [09:36:22] hm. i just realized that i didn't need to beef up our web hotel account to try this out, so i guess i'll just test and see ;) [09:36:30] was a bit hesitant at first as i thought i'd have to pay extra first. [09:39:41] umm [09:48:42] Juandev: you have your doubts about this being possible? ;) [09:48:50] estan: dont know [09:49:38] okay. the guy at the web hotel put up a new vhost for me, but it wouldn't go active until during the night. so i'll try tomorrow. [09:52:05] estan: wait a few hours, when more people will wake up in here [09:53:08] yea. i'll stick around. [09:53:13] if it's really not possible, then i'll settle for a foo.com/w/Page scheme instead, might be a good idea anyway since the MW devs recommend against foo.com/Page. [09:54:14] they just won't help you much when it breaks shit [09:54:31] since they can rightly say "we told you not to do that" [09:54:31] yea, i can understand them. [09:54:32] null article path voids support warranty [09:54:51] been running it fine on libxml2wiki.dose.se though. [09:55:23] though i did try prettyfying action URLs too (edit, history et.c.), and then things broke. but that might have been my lack of lighttpd mod_rewrite foo. [10:47:42] AaronSchulz: around? [10:53:35] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on dewiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13969 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:59:09] TimStarling: You around? [10:59:26] Prom_cat: please don't do that [10:59:39] yksinaisyyteni: why? [10:59:39] beacuse it's annoying and i'll ban you [10:59:40] Heah [10:59:41] its mary kate in gisguise [10:59:41] disguise^ [11:00:17] Hmm, any suggestions for entering date/times in MediaWIki forms? [11:00:26] werdnum: find an online javascript date picker [11:00:26] It'd be nice if I could have something other than a bare textbox. [11:00:33] and accept ISO dates as a fallback [11:01:00] Localisation is the most important thing - I'm using strtotime() at the moment, but that only works for English. [11:01:14] well, date pickers are mostly i18n-independant for western calendars, which is the majority of users [11:02:11] Anyhow, I was wondering if there are currently any plans on changing the Catchpa to a more friendly one for blind people [11:02:28] eghjaytee: one that allows you to read out the text [11:02:45] sigh, auto nick fill [11:02:45] Prom_cat: do you think i'm joking when i said i'll ban you? [11:03:02] turn it off [11:03:23] Hello There [11:03:41] Anyone here ? [11:03:46] !ask [11:03:46] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [11:03:47] !ask [11:03:47] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [11:04:13] werdnum: lulz [11:04:13] (Shit [11:04:50] ssorry [11:04:50] That wasn't highlighted. [11:04:51] Oh [11:04:55] It was the highlighting that was annoying [11:04:55] Well.... for my college project (web crawler), I need to take some part of wiki [11:05:29] a web crawler? [11:05:29] yeah [11:05:29] A basic one though [11:05:31] arnt web crawlers blocked from tearing through the wiki [11:05:38] Our group is at the stage of comparing two documents to find duplicity [11:06:12] So , My question was about exporting wiki pages [11:06:12] not all of course !! [11:06:37] Maybe a singl category with say 500 Topics [11:06:37] use Special:Export [11:06:38] For comparing them , We need to get the history too [11:06:39] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export [11:07:01] example^ [11:07:05] But , the revisions with special:export result in data that is as old as 2003 ! [11:07:41] is ther a way to specify to special:export the date limit of revisions ? [11:07:59] examle ...... revisions from date 1/1/2007 to 1/1/2008 [11:07:59] for article xyz [11:09:15]