[00:00:08] my wiki needs 22mb for tables in mysql. does this include cache, allready? I wonder why my w_text is 18mb and there is no bigger table, shouldnt be there a bigger table with the page caches inside? [00:01:35] would it be fairly difficult to do a thingy for Special:Allpages similar to what is done for Special:Whatlinkshere in regards to whether pages are shown or redirects (1 or the other) [00:02:13] Charitwo: you mean more so than class="allpagesredirect" ? [00:02:39] is that some javascript witchcraft or a url parameter [00:03:10] no [00:03:10] all redirects on Special:Allpages have that class [00:03:39] i was thinking of a filter like whatlinkshere has [00:03:45] not an identifier [00:04:08] right, but with that you can make a filter, however it still doesn't show more than 200 total (just hides) [00:04:13] but it mostly does what you ask [00:04:49] javascript:void(appendCSS('.allpagesredirect {display:none;}')); [00:04:52] poorman's filter ^_^ [00:05:06] brion: btw, it's about time to branch 1.14, isn't it? (1.13 branch was created 2008-07-23, 1.13.0 was 2008-08-14) [00:05:55] splarka, what if i wanted to do that opposite? [00:06:02] display only redirects [00:08:01] hmm [00:08:23] javascript:void(appendCSS('table a {display:none;} div.allpagesredirect a {display:inline !important;}')); [00:08:52] those can be pasted direct into the URL bar in FF/Moz browsers [00:10:20] works great, thanks :) [00:10:29] want a gadget to make 3 buttons to do that? [00:10:34] ;) Some of us like to use the FireBug console [00:12:09] Could anyone point me at a guide or tutorial on how to build the dropdown windows and radio buttons/check boxes for wiki special pages? [00:12:41] siebrand: yeah soonish [00:13:53] brion: hmm, got any status on the 2 planned features by skizzers and VasilievVV? (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_roadmap) [00:14:16] Web configuration interface that supports Wikimedia layout, On-wiki namespace manager (Special:Namespaces) [00:14:23] unlikely to get in I guess. [00:14:32] siebrand: -> werdnum [00:14:48] and others working on Configure extension [00:15:03] Ah, that's all configure. [00:15:16] That's to be merged to core eventually?! [00:16:05] *werdnum dunno. [00:16:19] will Tim be release manager again for 1.14? [00:17:16] if i make a search usinng an operator+colon, clicking the links (e.g. 500 results) encodes the colon in the url and the search returns nothing. is this material for a bug? [00:19:07] *werdnum inserts demon. [00:19:09] Charitwo: http://p.defau.lt/?7Gp6TQ77pfCjtk4UTYL19Q [00:20:07] :o [00:21:33] *^demon was inserted [00:22:27] wouldn't caretdemon be more appropriate? ;) [00:23:53] circumflex! [00:26:09] Does anyone have the inclination to review the patch for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11148 ? [00:26:27] This bug gets abused regularly. [00:26:31] <^demon> I've always thought of it as insert demon. :) [00:26:45] And, we are forced to hardblock when we shouldn't have to. [00:28:42] It looks like a fairly straightforward patch to review, i guess. [00:29:46] 03brion * r43838 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/debian/changelog: bumping post/upload limtis to 100M, see how it goes [00:30:09] hi [00:30:10] :O [00:30:36] *Charitwo gives brion a cigar [00:32:30] ...is that only on commons? [00:33:07] *Splarka uploads a 100 meg 2400DPI scan of a movie poster claiming Fair Use, Low Resolution [00:33:19] 03brion * r43839 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/php.ini: actually update the file *cough* [00:33:47] Splarka: this is just changing the php configuration on the server to accept such large files [00:33:58] in theory we could restrict indidiual wikis further if we for some reason wanted to [00:34:00] right, but eventually you're going to enable it on commons [00:34:04] i'm not entirely sure they'll work anyway :) [00:34:13] just wondering if there is any point to having it higher on en.wp etc... [00:34:15] heh [00:34:24] well 100 is as far as it'll go for now [00:34:35] i think that's where squid'll cut them off [00:34:43] are you going to consider expanding the upload_by_url groups? 100 megs seems prone to timeouts in
[00:34:51] since the url upload limit is already 100.. [00:34:58] Splarka: upload_by_url doesn't work right now [00:35:02] Splarka: 100 MB fair use images! [00:35:14] since web servers can't contact internet [00:35:15] aww [00:35:18] *Mike_lifeguard dies after thinking of that [00:35:25] heh [00:35:45] MrZ: I got yelled at on starwars.wikia for the upload limit only being 8 megs.. [00:36:00] I asked them why they needed more... 16 meg screenshots and box-art scan of course.. fair use... [00:36:09] brion: how can the web servers not contact the intarwebs? Don't they need that for transwiki? [00:36:21] werdnum: no, they just contact themselves [00:36:30] since they... kind of... are wikipedia :) [00:36:52] larger limits are mainly needed for video stuff [00:36:59] well, they may /try/ to contact themselves [00:37:03] it just doesn't normally work [00:37:27] *Splarka puts it into brion's mind that limits per filetype are a good idea... [00:37:35] 100 meg ogg = good, 100 meg png = bad... [00:37:45] :D [00:37:46] Splarka: 100 meg animated gif? [00:37:54] we'll consider the possibilities [00:38:11] you could of course make an ogg video that's thousands of pixels across and just a few frames [00:38:12] MrZ: nothing wrong with gif, choosier moms choose gif [00:38:23] ha [00:38:51] MrZ-man: you mean like some of that ecchi on commons? [00:38:51] well, already png is being used where jpg should... if you raise jpg limit to 40, and drop png to 10, maybe people'll get the hint [00:39:09] (and animated gif... ow) [00:44:57] <^demon> I saw a website today that reminded me of 1995. http://www.udig.com/referral.html [00:45:33] hah [00:45:49] Could someone fix template transclusions? they're kind of faily =( [00:50:32] chuck: ? [00:59:20] hiya, guys. how do i set up batik to work with java and mediawiki? [01:06:23] RingtailedFox: iirc you want the get the .jar files for batik [01:06:27] you stick them in some directory [01:06:49] set $wgSVGConverter = 'batik'; [01:07:09] and $wgSVGConverterPath = '/the/path/to/the/jar/files'; [01:07:17] (the directory that contains 'batik-rasterizer.jar' [01:07:35] How would one figure out what the variables are for a particular system message? [01:07:37] and make sure you have a java VM on the server... running the 'java' command should work :) [01:07:46] Mike_lifeguard: look in the code :( [01:07:52] or maybe they made comments on betawiki, not sure [01:07:57] hmm, k [01:08:44] ok [01:12:38] my website's wiki installation is in ~/public_html/wiki/w/ and batik's in ~/bin [01:12:50] i assume the proper syntax should be ~/bin/batik-1.7? [01:14:40] hi [01:14:57] hi, dway [01:15:02] ^^ [01:15:09] mmmh* [01:15:14] I'm a bit afraid [01:15:28] I have to upgrade a medawiki which is 1.5.8 [01:15:39] the server is now supporting php5, so... [01:16:03] but, do you think I won't break anything ? [01:17:55] the 1.5.8 installation is not exotic, it's a default install without plugins [01:18:49] it should run smoothly [01:18:56] :s [01:18:58] :) [01:19:32] ok i'll give it a try ^^ [01:28:51] anybody there? [01:29:39] i'm ehre [01:29:42] *here [01:30:04] hey...just installed mediawiki and have a question...have searched and search but no joy [01:30:19] how do you add users, and what is the deal with admins? [01:30:56] Special:UserLogin?type=signup [01:30:57] you provide an admin name and password when you install, but when you try to log in as that name, there is an error saying no user by that name... what gives? [01:31:15] ah...i will give that a try [01:31:37] my host ate that page, though, so more fun with straightening that prob out [01:31:49] [[Special:UserLogin]] and click 'create account' [01:32:07] (be nice if there was a linkable alias like [[Special:UserLogin/create]]... hint hint ^demon [01:32:43] or if the install docs gave a bit more context [01:33:04] <^demon> Splarka: Why me? [01:33:17] ?? [01:33:40] ^demon: because you're a mavrick, you betcha [01:33:47] lol [01:34:34] Splarka: How can I test your random book script for just myself [01:34:35] ? [01:34:44] <^demon> Splarka: Can you see Russia from there? [01:34:45] If i include it, I don't think it works normalyl [01:35:12] Mike: well it is now live on meta, so you can't test it like that [01:35:22] you wanna test it on another wiki? or locally? [01:35:27] random book script... for enwikibooks [01:35:30] oh [01:35:35] _that_ thing [01:35:37] wakey wakey [01:35:42] eggs and bitey [01:35:47] :O [01:35:52] *Mike_lifeguard huddles in the corner [01:35:56] *Splarka can't afford to pay attention, donated his attention to wmf fundraising [01:36:08] ^demon: fools russian [01:36:38] Mike: lemme rewrite it to play nice with the existing one, I wrote it as a direct replacement thinking it might be replaced [01:37:12] I will probably replace it, but I want to play with it first, since it seems not to behave in precisely the same way [01:37:16] *Splarka renames the functions and tests [01:37:35] right, it is currently in 'safe' mode [01:37:54] it generates a random book as a link below the button [01:38:08] oh [01:38:16] but that can be changed? [01:38:29] should just spirit you away [01:38:54] yes, it can be [01:39:02] RingtailedFox: for my upgrade to the 1.13.2, Do I have to copy all the 1.13.2 files on the 1.5.8 or should I delete some file of the 1.5.8 before (there is a big difference in file hierarchy) ? [01:40:02] ooh, i don't know how to upgrade mediawiki, actually. never done it before. sorry [01:40:14] :s [01:40:24] anybody knows that ? [01:40:38] (thx RingtailedFox ^^) [01:44:34] 03(mod) Grant "deletedhistory" permissions to CheckUser group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9884 (10mikelifeguard) [01:46:17] yw [01:46:56] Mike: should work now via importScript [01:47:15] *Mike_lifeguard tries [01:47:46] importScript('User:Splarka/randboook.js'); [01:48:04] I get "ct is undefined" at 38 if(ct.indexOf('Category:Alphabetical/') == 0) { [01:48:37] hmm [01:48:51] *Splarka durs, makes a typo [01:49:00] importScript('User:Splarka/randbook.js'); [01:49:05] *Splarka attempts to duplicate your error [01:50:41] got the special pages to display...vv00t [01:52:01] Mike_lifeguard: works for me, what browser/version? [01:52:10] FF 3.0.4 [01:52:27] any other possibly conflicting scripts? [01:52:48] doubtful [01:53:25] and I get the same error when using only that script [01:53:58] well, 'title' returns a simple string, I don't see how it can be undefined... [01:54:18] what OS? [01:54:52] is the error consistent? [01:56:11] yes [01:56:17] WinXP SP2 [01:57:43] 03dale * r43840 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (16 files in 9 dirs): [01:57:43] smil clipboard updates [01:57:43] cmml export fixes [01:57:43] flowplayer updates [01:57:58] mike: if you have some time, come in to #mediawiki-scripts and we can try debugging this [01:59:20] I imported some pages, but without their entire history.. can I still import those edits from the history later, too? [02:07:53] 03(NEW) Special Search encodes colon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16418 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (waldir) [02:12:01] 03(NEW) Read description for more details. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16419 major; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mdziczkowski) [02:27:51] Hello people [02:28:18] <^demon> hi. [02:28:31] I was wondering if someone could explain to me why using the 'wikipedia:' interwiki call worked and the 'w:' call didn't. [02:28:49] <^demon> On your local wiki? [02:28:58] the 'mw:' call didn't work either [02:29:03] ^demon: yes [02:29:35] <^demon> mw and w aren't defined in the default MediaWiki install. They were custom added. [02:30:15] <^demon> You could add them too. [02:30:31] Oh, I see [02:31:11] I was wondering if there is a Special: page where I can do that [02:31:44] Is anybody familiar with domas' wikistats dumps? [02:32:45] werdnum: somewhat [02:33:06] <^demon> ravster: Yes, there's SpecialInterwiki, I think it's called. [02:33:20] <^demon> Yes, that's it. [02:33:24] <^demon> !e SpecialInterwiki [02:33:24] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialInterwiki [02:33:46] MrZ-man: what are the fields? [02:34:01] for pagecounts? [02:34:21] its "project title hits bytes-served" [02:34:26] ^demon: Thank you, I will install that extension [02:34:31] I'm not positive about the last one [02:34:39] I think that's what it is [02:35:38] <^demon> ravster: No problem. [02:36:29] MrZ-man: ah, that last one is bytes :) [02:36:46] yeah, it took me a while to figure that one out too [02:36:53] wtf are there 2 numbers? [02:37:04] pageviews... [02:38:24] the annoying thing is that a title might be listed multiple times on one page [02:53:08] Does anyone know the extension that allows users to request accounts? and an admin has to approve the accounts? [02:53:42] !e ConfirmAccount | quentusrex [02:53:42] --mwbot-- quentusrex: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount [02:53:56] yup, I think that's the one. [02:54:04] It won't 'confirm' the account. [02:54:11] I tell it to create the account and it doesn't. [02:54:17] it doesn't do 'anything' [02:54:42] ConfirmAccount-trunk-r43743.tar.gz [03:06:27] I have a user in the Beurocrat group, but when I tell the extension to create the account, nothing happens.... [03:42:16] Anyone here tried setting up a MW Wiki with AD integration? [03:42:49] Because I'm having some problems with the official extension [03:51:27] phuzion: using the LDAP extension? [04:03:46] Does anyone know how to trouble shoot a mediawiki session.save_path error. [04:04:09] Argh, why is MediaWiki not allowing me make that account? [04:04:12] It turns out that since I changed my session save path for php, mediawiki can't save the sessions properly [04:06:31] Teh_X: what account? [04:06:40] Sophira [04:06:51] The username does not exist, but the login form is saying it is. [04:06:53] and what does it say? [04:07:01] quote error message, please. [04:07:14] We can't help you if you don't tell us completely what problem you're having. [04:07:44] Login form: "Login error: Username entered already in use. Please choose a different name." [04:07:58] Editing User:Sophira: "User account "Sophira" is not registered. If you wish to use "Sophira" as your username, please make a request at Wikipedia:Changing username." [04:09:07] For some reason, I think the session.save_path, when ever a user logs in they are immediatly logged out when they click 'main page' or any other page. [04:10:03] werdnum, yeah, using the LDAP extension [04:10:20] Teh_X: is this on Wikipedia? [04:10:22] Yes [04:11:05] Teh_X: it's taken in the global account system. [04:11:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AGlobalUsers&username=Sophira&group=&limit=100 [04:11:12] Aha [04:11:20] hey tomaszf [04:11:35] werdum: heya [04:11:50] *tomaszf wonders why he has a ups delivery info when he didn't order anything [04:12:05] *tomaszf will have to figure it out after dinner [04:13:33] werdnum, my debug says this: http://pastebin.ca/1264112 [04:18:19] Anyone know why that's failing? I realize it's not much information [04:23:12] Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in. [04:36:23] 03(NEW) Problem in the toolserver - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16420 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (parsecboy) [04:40:22] GRAAAAA.... I can't figure out why the session.save_path bug won't die... [04:40:57] Alright, I have my own server. I'm using virtual hosts... [04:41:10] it's an ubuntu server with apache2 [04:41:22] the session.save_path is set to /tmp/sessions [04:41:41] But mediawiki seems to be the ONLY software that can't save the session.... [04:41:51] drupal, phpmyadmin, etc all work. [04:43:11] Did you change MediaWiki to use the new location? [04:43:51] :( [04:43:52] lol [04:44:10] right as you said that I had just found a page that said what line to add... session_save_path("/tmp/persistent/PROJECT_UNIX_NAME/sessions/"); [04:44:17] thanks soo much though Teh_X [04:55:58] Teh_X I'm using the Request account extension. How do I make it so that a new user has to confirm their e-mail? [04:56:21] I'm not sure, I haven't looked at it much [05:03:28] 03mrzman * r43841 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Move password resetting out of Special:Preferences, adapt Special:ResetPass to do the job, add Special:ChangePassword as an alias. [05:48:50] How do I delete a user? [05:50:03] i think you can only block unless you edit the mysql db manually [05:50:11] [[Extension:Donald Trump]] , you're Fired ^_^ [05:50:38] 03(mod) Problem in the toolserver - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16420 (10public) [05:52:37] arr, MrZ-man is a quitter [05:52:51] I wonder if he was doing that per https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15876 [05:53:15] I think ResetPass should be an alias. [05:53:17] Maybe he was smart and did that... [05:53:52] Are there any other special pages with abbreviations like "Pass"? [05:54:14] Well, here's the deal... [05:54:38] If he moved it out of Preferences, that means that non-resets will be using the same form. [05:54:51] So ChangePassword makes far more sense than ResetPass. [05:54:59] Because it works for both resets and regular changes. [05:55:29] array( 'ResetPass', 'ResetPassword', 'ChangePassword' ), <-- Bad boy. [05:56:04] I hope he left a link in Special:Preferences to the reset page, too... [05:56:06] indeed, flip the two [05:56:33] Looks like he did. [05:58:25] why didn't they just out it as a seperate tab in the user preference? [05:58:39] see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15876 [05:58:52] I just wrote that bug from lazy dev mumblings [05:59:18] Krimpet: Can you make the array () change, pretty please? :-) [05:59:21] And add ChangePass? [06:01:07] I don't like 'reset' being in there at all [06:01:15] that's silly, and ambiguous with 'request new password' [06:01:31] ResetPass is old. It should redirect. [06:01:44] And if stewards are using the same form, it makes perfect sense, no? [06:02:05] anyways now to download xampp and play with mediawiki locally before i trash around the server >.> [06:02:19] *MZMcBride imagines something similar to the current UserRights. [06:02:36] UserPassword ^_^ [06:02:38] Where things are grayed out (or hidden completely) if the user doesn't have appropriate perms. [06:02:47] Special:UserPassword. Eww. [06:03:09] right [06:03:25] the link from prefs would be Special:ChangePassword/Yourname [06:03:38] and going directly to [[Special:ChangePassword]] would give permission error and link to Special:ChangePassword/Yourname [06:03:40] *MZMcBride nods. [06:03:49] Hmm, permission error is mean. [06:03:53] unless you were steward/crat, where it would ask for username input [06:04:03] * ideal world, does not reflect reality [06:04:08] Auto-redirect would be better. [06:04:15] hacking the system is mean [06:04:20] heh [06:04:24] It's MediaWiki. [06:04:27] ew [06:04:27] not good idea [06:04:28] There's no hacking the system. [06:04:33] The system is a hack. [06:04:39] *MZMcBride hides. [06:04:40] UserRights doesn't do that... [06:04:44] it may be frustrating to new crats/stewards with cache issues [06:04:53] riiiiiiiight [06:04:55] check my rights log on test.wp ^_^ [06:05:06] Yes, those new 'crats with cache issues are such a thorn in our sides! [06:06:00] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/Splarka [06:06:55] just sayin, even Special:Userrights for IPs asked for a username ^_^ [06:07:14] # 10:37, 30 October 2008 (username removed) deleted "Image:Té.gif" ‎ (fixt now) [06:07:18] not so secret [06:07:29] *Splarka works on useridle [06:08:09] people like testing deletedrevs there [06:12:52] *werdnum hints about activating it on Wikimedia. [06:13:15] To whom do you hint? [06:13:54] brion, in absentia. [06:16:48] Can we get FlaggedRevs first? ;) [06:17:55] kick-a-dead-flagged-rev [06:18:07] how about DeletedFlags? [06:19:44] FlaggedDeletions [06:27:12] 03werdna * r43842 10/branches/hit-counter/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add graphing, multi-page statistics, importing of hit counts from dammit.lt/wikistats, etc. [06:29:05] i just installed mediawiki and there seems to be no user persmissions in LocalSettings.php i did something wrong didn't i? [06:29:54] They're in DefaultSettings.php. [06:30:18] perhaps the generated localsettings should explain how to restrict access [06:30:37] Does it at least include a link to the FAQ? [06:30:46] Either would be helpful. [06:40:07] 03greg * r43843 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php: Need to bail without error if no user so installer works. [06:40:58] 03greg * r43844 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php: Set numeric_version [06:41:46] so when adding groups do i add them to DefaultSettings or LocalSettings? [06:42:01] LocalSettings [06:42:33] 03(ASSIGNED) Can't install 1.14 with Postgres 8.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16256 +comment (10greg) [06:42:58] and if say user is part of both user and staff i don't need to add the user permissions into the staff set do i? [06:43:15] Right. [06:43:21] And never edit DefaultSettings.php. [06:44:47] whats "$wgGroupPermissions['Sysop']['browsearchive']" i can't seem to find it listed anywhere as what it does? [06:44:57] 03greg * r43845 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/mediawiki_mysql2postgres.pl: [06:44:57] Add CASCADE back in: better to break older Postgres versions than new ones. [06:44:57] Per bug 16256 [06:45:18] 03(mod) Can't install 1.14 with Postgres 8.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16256 (10greg) [06:45:20] sysop is lowercase. [06:45:35] And browsearchive allows viewing a list of contribs without being able to view the page text. [06:45:37] Or something. [06:45:48] Deleted contribs, that is. [06:48:05] so do i just add them to the buttom of the LocalSettings or is it in a certain order? [06:48:26] Order doesn't matter. [06:48:33] !rights [06:48:33] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [06:49:36] 03greg * r43846 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php: Set numeric_version more globally so things like search don't break. [06:53:36] would anyone have an idea as to why i'm getting < and > bracketing the names of the special extension pages I've put in my mediawiki? [07:00:45] missing messages/bad cache [07:06:04] any chance you could point me at an example of what I should be doing? [07:10:33] g'night [07:10:53] genericdeviant: what extensions? [07:13:41] um I built it [07:13:54] thats probably the problem [07:13:57] :) [07:16:53] I'm not sure where to find how to push the page name to specialpages and or the header for the page [07:17:28] the page name is Call_Log and I'm getting <call_log> at the head of the page and as the link on special pages [07:18:40] add a system message. [07:18:50] Do you have an i18n file? [07:19:11] yep whats a system message look like? [07:19:35] I copied the example i18n file from the wiki how to write extensions page [07:20:10] then add an message 'call_log' => 'Call Log' [07:20:23] in your i18n file. [07:20:44] anything preceed that? just 'call_log' => 'Call Log'? [07:21:09] well, have you used messages elsewhere in your extension? [07:21:16] you know, wfMsg( 'some-message-name' ) [07:21:25] nope [07:22:05] you probably should/ [07:22:09] Having < and > surround the missing system message is the worst error reporting ever. [07:22:12] where's the example i18n file? [07:22:18] MZMcMammal: not really. [07:22:33] You're right. Worse would be just < and > [07:22:37] It's second worst. [07:22:45] But, really, can't it be descriptive? [07:22:57] O_o [07:23:15] "This following message cannot be found: name" [07:23:30] too long for some situations [07:23:45] isn't too bad, all things considered. [07:23:45] Breakage is breakage. [07:25:04] the basic info I used I pulled from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Tag_extensions [07:26:27] genericdeviant: where's the i18n file? [07:26:34] I'm looking for the specific file examples atm [07:27:40] here we go this is where I snagged the examples to modify [07:27:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages [07:34:24] 03(FIXED) Increase Commons file size upload limit to 40MB - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12595 +comment (10grahamwp) [07:39:57] fixed [07:40:03] it's don't use caps [07:42:34] Are you talking to a bot? [07:44:28] I was talking to werdnum actually [07:44:38] I was saying I fixed my problem [07:46:36] 03aaron * r43847 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/RequestAccount_body.php: Move down cache clearing [08:00:00] 03aaron * r43848 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount_body.php: Transaction tweaks [08:09:52] What's the current status of image redirects? [09:17:36] <_wooz> lo [09:31:50] 03rotem * r43849 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update. [09:53:19] 03(mod) The page counter could not update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16359 (10skjackey.tse) [09:56:11] I changed my wiki to use short URLs, but some links such as userlogin and permanent link still direct to index.php, how do I fix it? [10:02:48] Pilot_51: It's a normal behaviour, it's the same as in Wikipedia [10:04:00] But it doesn't work, it thinks I'm trying to access an article called Index.php [10:05:37] Well, at least for the login, perm. link seems fine actually [10:05:44] 03siebrand * r43850 10/trunk/extensions/Tasks/Tasks.i18n.php: article => page [10:07:14] off-topic question [10:07:20] is there a way i can figure out what server this channel is on [10:07:21] http://www.huskerboard.com/chat/ [10:18:44] Hello everyone! [10:19:16] I wonder if anyone can tell me how to show New user registrations in Recent Changes list [10:20:17] !e | Newuserlog [10:20:17] --mwbot-- Newuserlog: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:`e1 [10:20:23] oops [10:20:27] !e Newuserlog [10:20:27] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Newuserlog [10:20:59] meaning i would need to install this extension? [10:21:12] yeah [10:21:19] thanks :) [10:21:47] but it says that the extension is obsolete [10:22:01] and that the functionality has been integrated in MW [10:22:21] JimStar: only since 1.14 [10:22:31] ok [10:22:36] if you are using 1.13 or older, you can install it [10:23:41] 03siebrand * r43851 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (23 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-11-22 11:16 CET) [10:23:57] ok... i am using 1.13 [10:24:43] i have started to manage a mw site recently ... so i hv a lot of problems and therefore questions :) [10:27:24] do all the MW sites have to release their content under GFDL? [10:28:16] no [10:28:40] 03siebrand * r43852 10/trunk/extensions/ (83 files in 69 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-11-22 11:16 CET) [10:35:04] is it somehow possible to hide one's edits completely (so that they dont appear in recent chnages even if bot edits are shown)? [10:38:32] 03siebrand * r43853 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/ (3 files): article -> page [10:41:29] 03siebrand * r43854 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/RatingHistory.i18n.php: Fix typo in previous commit [10:43:17] 03ialex * r43855 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [10:43:17] * svn:eol-style native on ContributionReporting [10:43:17] * deleted MetavidWiki/maintenance/wget-log, seems that it was commited by mistake (restore it if not :) [10:46:57] 03siebrand * r43856 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: article -> page [10:52:50] how can i input an Unicode caractère on a wiki page ? i know the unicode number : U+0294 but absolutly dont know how to type it on a keyboard(linux) or insert it in wiki language , any clue ? [10:54:03] you could use the entity, ʔ [10:54:55] and as a hack... [10:55:12] you could use the entity, ʔ hit preview, copy it, and paste it into the edit window where you needed it [10:55:28] (if you needed the non-entity) [10:57:52] Splarka: thank you very much ! [11:00:07] perfect ! [11:00:18] np [11:18:52] 03(NEW) list=logevents leuser= and list=usercontribs ucuser= parameters inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16421 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (herd) [11:26:26] *Splarka spams roan [11:26:30] 03(NEW) Parameter to suppress help baggage with simple errors. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16422 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (herd) [11:27:29] http://test.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=jsonfm&list=logevents&leuser=NOSUCHUSER [11:27:42] really, don't need 75k of text to tell me I had a bad username ^_^ [11:35:17] 03ialex * r43857 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SearchEngine.php: API wants namespaces to be separated with a pipe, not a comma [11:39:12] 03ialex * r43858 10/trunk/extensions/OpenSearchXml/OpenSearchXml.php: Same as r43857: API wants namespaces to be separated with a pipe, not a comma [11:46:54] 03minuteelectron * r43859 10/trunk/extensions/uniwiki/CreatePage/CreatePage_body.php: * Need to run $this->setHeaders() if extending the execute() method so that stuff like the title gets set. [11:48:04] ialex: I'm back onto COnfigure stuff tomorrow. [11:48:10] Brion's given me a dirty great big list :) [11:49:51] Configure? Another coincidence... I'm looking into autoconf [11:50:07] Configure's been on my project list for weeks. [12:01:02] werdnum: what is on that list? :) [12:02:03] *Dantman has been working on an implementation of FastCGI [12:05:04] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Current_issues#Subpages_in_the_template_namespace [12:05:08] ialex: sec [12:06:47] ialex: Brion says: Section tree on the left feels awkward, It's not obvious why some fields aren't editable, a search feature (like about:config) would be cool, field descriptions feel pretty compressed, saving needs a link back to the form, no diffs for "list of old versions", no indication of the original setting (before Configure extension), needs a "popular variables" or similar section. [12:14:26] MinuteElectron: that's odd [12:14:33] 'wgNamespacesWithSubpages' => array( [12:14:55] 'default' => array( [12:14:56] NS_TEMPLATE => true, [12:14:56] but [12:14:56] 'mediawikiwiki' => array( -1 => 0, 0 => 1, 1 => 1, 2 => 1, 3 => 1, 4 => 1, 5 => 1, 6 => 0, 7 => 1, 8 => 0, 9 => 1, 10 => 0, 11 => 1, 12 => 1, 13 => 1, 14 => 1, 100 => 1, 101 => 1, 102 => 1, 103 => 1), [12:15:05] 03ialex * r43860 10/trunk/extensions/OpenSearchXml/ (OpenSearchXml.i18n.php OpenSearchXml.php): [12:15:05] * Added url in extension's credit [12:15:05] * Changed JSON to XML in description [12:15:10] explicitly disabled [12:15:15] uh... [12:15:18] i wonder why [12:15:43] probably copypasta [12:15:53] nobody carez. [12:16:04] most of the office ones are, grants/foundation/internal/incubator [12:16:11] board/chair/etc [12:16:48] ialex: so I'll work tomorrow on a 'popular settings', link back to the form, indicating which fields can/cannot be edited (including maybe removing stuff that can't be edited altogether - they can see it at Special:ViewConfig) [12:17:30] Splarka: ok, really need some sort of consensus though. :( [12:18:38] Minute: I think it should always be on for all namespaces, except main, and maybe image/category... [12:18:57] Splarka: right, can you put that on the page though? :) [12:19:32] consensus pimp [12:19:44] ialex: what do you think? [12:20:30] commented [12:20:41] werdnum: thank you [12:20:54] erm [12:20:59] Splarka: thank you [12:21:01] sorry werdnum [12:21:03] werdnum: ok [12:21:14] *Splarka grins sleepily [12:21:40] ponders how many days results in consensus [12:22:59] *Splarka looks for a proportional image of saturn [12:30:19] Hi everyone [12:30:33] Is there any knows about MediaWiki API [12:30:52] There are people who know, yes. [12:31:43] can you tell me what is this {{NAMESPACE}} [12:32:03] after it be parsed? [12:32:49] Namespace of the page. [12:33:01] if you don't specify a title, it'll be a bit null [12:33:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&text={{NAMESPACE}} [12:33:13] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&text={{NAMESPACE}}&title=User:Foo <-- compare to [12:33:41] (the default namespace is null) [12:35:01] yes, thanks, I got it [12:49:22] hey werdnum, more client-side crap for you to be motivated to make an extension for: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/idle [12:49:32] (well, the same crap, more options) [13:51:33] Duesentrieb: the problem with tracking upload by looking at file size is the uploaded file is stored in /tmp [13:51:58] i wonder why no browsers offer an upload progress bar.. seems like an obvious feature [13:56:02] hello ! I've a problem with a special page. In its constructor, I added a second parameter : restriction... but my special page is still visible by guests :( parent::__construct('WhosOnline', 'block' ); [13:56:08] what's wrong? [13:58:54] I'm using mediawiki 1.13.2, and another one is 1.12, same problem on both [14:05:27] Are there any docs on sending html rich email from mediawiki? [14:06:45] 03(NEW) Cannot download extensions that are not on root level - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16423 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ExtensionDistributor; (siebrand) [14:10:30] 03(NEW) Cannot download extensions that are no longer in trunk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16424 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ExtensionDistributor; (siebrand) [14:14:41] 03siebrand * r43861 10/trunk/extensions/ExtensionDistributor/ExtensionDistributor.php: Remove REL1_10 in ExtensionDistributor. Has been out of support for a while. [14:20:44] 03(NEW) Cannot jump to a download of a branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16425 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ExtensionDistributor; (siebrand) [14:31:27] 03(mod) Problem in the toolserver - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16420 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [14:36:28] Anyone know if there is a way to pull out parts of a multi-word {{PAGENAME}} into separate pieces with functions or switches? [14:36:52] you can split by subpages [14:37:06] no, just need to split the name [14:37:38] there're parserfunctions for that [14:37:43] but not installed on wikipedia [14:38:06] how can i block all edits by IPs? [14:38:39] http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mediawiki+prevent+anonymous+edits&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a [14:38:50] Google FTW [14:39:57] !preventing access [14:39:57] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "preventing". You might try: !access !lockdown !preventaccess !preventingaccess !rights [14:40:04] !preventingaccess [14:40:04] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [14:45:00] 03(NEW) Enable subpages in template namespace on MediaWiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16426 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (minuteelectron) [14:45:09] 04(REOPENED) Please change Thai Wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16008 (10manop) [14:48:45] 03(mod) Please change Thai Wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16008 (10manop) [14:49:30] 03ialex * r43862 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (6 files): [14:49:30] * MediaWiki: added $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedProject and $wgUsePrivateIPs. [14:49:30] * Extensions: updated CodeReview and OggHandler; added OpenSearchXml. [14:52:59] hello ! I've a problem with a special page. In its constructor, I added a second parameter : restriction... but my special page is still visible by guests :( parent::__construct('WhosOnline', 'block' ); [14:53:50] iubito: still visible in Special:SpecialPages [14:54:01] ? [14:54:07] it's in bold, meaning that there are restrictions [14:55:05] but with another browser, as a non logged-in user, I can see the page [14:55:41] you have to check permissions in execute() [14:57:20] of course! you are right ! :D [14:57:34] I thought it was managed automatically :p [14:57:35] I test it [14:59:03] OK it works! thanks ! :) [15:07:07] another question, how to add/substract the time offset of the user ? I've some dates to display, but I'm in GMT+1 and they are in GMT [15:09:13] 03(NEW) Set $wgRestrictDisplayTitle to False on Chinese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D16427 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (PhiLiP.NPC) [15:11:33] Reedy: that's what i did ( http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#1.5_upwards ), but 1.10 still allows IPs to view & edit [15:12:33] what did you add in? and where? [15:14:31] at the bottom of /etc/mediawiki1.10/LocalSettings.php [15:14:38] before the ?>, of courtse [15:16:18] iubito: $wgLang->time( $ts, true ) [15:16:29] 14(INVALID) Read description for more details. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16419 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:16:33] also works for date() and timeanddate() [15:16:49] RichiH, and what exactly did you add? [15:17:54] Reedy: the 11 lines (i.e. 4 code lines) from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#1.5_upwards [15:19:37] 14(INVALID) Parameter to suppress help baggage with simple errors. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16422 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:20:53] ialex> I don't understand how to use it. I've a timestamp from a mysql row, I converted it into a linux style timestamp. I apply date('H:i', $myTimestamp) [15:21:05] how to apply $wgLang->time() ? [15:21:19] global $wgLang; [15:21:39] $wgLang->time( $myTimestamp, true ); [15:23:34] 03ialex * r43863 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialResetpass.php: fix double escaping [15:23:53] ok, but which kind of timestamp ? Mysql : 20081122162900, or linux timestamp : number of milisecondes from 1970 [15:25:11] iubito: both should work [15:26:15] date('H:i - ', $wgLang->time($row->timestamp, true)) returns "01:00" for all [15:26:40] don't use date(...) [15:28:36] ok, it works ! thanks again :) [15:29:20] *Reedy wonders what extensions would be worth installing [15:30:12] Reedy> depends on your needs :) [15:31:04] I know [15:31:15] ;) [15:36:04] 03(mod) The logging table needs a log_user_text field so that events from anonymous users can be logged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3732 summary (10roan.kattouw) [15:37:57] Nikerabbit, can you review this translation? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2007/Video_with_Jimmy_subtitles/Translations/fi [15:46:49] 03catrope * r43864 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): API: (bug 16421) Actually do user name normalization in list=logevents. Also fix up User::idFromName so it doesn't think "Talk:Catrope" isn't the same user as "Catrope" [15:47:14] 03(FIXED) list=logevents leuser= and list=usercontribs ucuser= parameters inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16421 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [16:01:55] GerardM-: oh, forgot all about it: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:GerardM/uniwiki-stats (there for a while already :P) [16:03:05] ёфсе [16:03:23] 03(mod) SVG handler uses an "uber-crappy hack" instead of a real XML parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14268 (10claus.colloseus) [16:04:56] hi, i have a problem with the collection extension: i cant add an article to the collection so when i want to organize the pages on Special:Collection there is no page to oranize, what could i have possibly forgotten? i stuck to that readme http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Collection/README.txt [16:08:24] 03siebrand * r43865 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings.i18n.php: ip -> ip address [16:31:45] kibble: uh [16:32:17] kibble: needs review [16:46:41] how do I make info boxes like the ones on wikipedia, like this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Means_a_Lot [16:49:30] anybody here? [16:52:06] mornin' [16:52:18] hi qsheets [16:52:52] do you know what the wiki markup for infoboxes is in general? Like the Template:infobox song on wikipedia [16:53:04] yurimxpxman: make a Template page... [16:53:38] qsheets: I can't figure out how to make sidebars like that [16:53:54] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Song [16:53:57] so copy the markup from their template [16:55:14] their templates always depend on other templates.. it's crazy [16:55:24] you have to click on "view source" to see all the goodies [16:55:37] yep [16:55:51] Hello, I'm looking for a way to construct sidebar menu regarding on which Category the site is, I suppose I'll need to write an extension ? [16:57:54] qsheets: that's what I've been doing.. but they're too many dependencies to just copy and paste, because every template depends on another template, and I can't just get the cold hard code to make something look like that [16:59:18] yurimxpxman: not all the dependencies are for the template, most are for the non-included visuals on the page [17:00:07] all I know is that when I copy and paste the template and try to use it, it comes out as gobbily goop crap because it doesn't have all the subtemplates =b [17:01:29] lol [17:01:29] also, check you have parserfunctions installed [17:01:37] why that isn't in core is beyond me [17:13:18] 03(mod) The logging table needs a log_user_text field so that events from anonymous users can be logged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3732 (10JSchulz_4587) [17:19:39] 03(NEW) Include permalink in printable version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16428 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (church.of.emacs.ml) [17:28:24] Nikerabbit: ^ [17:35:46] is there a good replication tool for media wiki? [17:35:53] or is it best to just write scripts to do it? [17:36:45] 03(mod) Please change Thai Wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16008 (10spacebirdy) [17:42:35] 03(mod) Problem in the toolserver - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16420 (10parsecboy) [17:42:59] Hello. [17:43:15] How do I make a project? [17:43:55] 14(INVALID) Problem in the toolserver - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16420 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [17:44:32] !install | Irunongames [17:44:32] --mwbot-- Irunongames: Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [18:01:09] um....char you still here? [18:19:57] can someone help me? [18:20:24] whatcha need [18:21:03] how do i install mediawiki [18:21:26] i'm at the "upload to server"part [18:21:49] upload the files to your server [18:22:35] i don't think i have one [18:23:28] do you have a local server, i.e. Apache or IIS [18:23:30] Irunongames, upload the files to the computer nediawiki will run on [18:24:15] brb [18:24:21] kk [18:24:30] so i just de compress it? [18:24:55] Irunongames, is it a .zip or a .tar.gz? [18:25:17] tar [18:25:41] tar xvf [18:28:00] xvf? [18:28:16] Irunongames, yes [18:28:20] tar xvf [18:28:46] sorry about this but what does xvf mean? [18:29:28] extract verbose and no idea what f is [18:29:46] 03(NEW) "nominornewtalk" should not trigger e-mail notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16429 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (charitwo) [18:29:47] so how do i do that? [18:29:48] x == extract V == verbose i think and i've no idea what f is [18:30:10] what program [18:30:14] just type "tar xvf filename.tar.gz" withotu the quotes and replacing filename.tar.gz with the name of the file [18:30:22] assuming it's linux [18:30:40] if it's windows use 7zip or get a .zip [18:30:44] and then upload it via ftp [18:33:02] 03(mod) Problem in the toolserver - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16420 (10parsecboy) [18:34:24] where do i upload too? [18:45:38] Can someone please review the patch for 11148 Users can login with global account and create an account in a wiki even if IP is blocked from account creations [18:45:51] it is quite short, and probably easy to review [18:46:05] that bug gets abused regularly, including about 10 times already today! [18:50:26] 03(mod) Red links to templates should be in class "error" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15729 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [18:53:35] anyone here? [18:54:45] 03(FIXED) New hook request UserMailer.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15068 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [18:55:22] :'( [18:56:00] !ask | Irunongames [18:56:00] --mwbot-- Irunongames: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [18:56:39] Ok. I am downloading wikimedia. Where do i uploaf to? [18:57:23] 03(mod) Extension Makebot is obsolete; should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14156 (10mikelifeguard) [18:57:45] Irunongames: I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean you are downloading a database dump? or the software? [18:58:31] software [18:59:48] ok, so, when you download the files, they should go to your server [19:00:23] oh [19:00:35] for example, if you use apache, mediawiki directory goes in htdocs [19:01:01] Irunongames: did you read the installation instructions? [19:01:06] I know they are a mess, but still [19:01:09] yea [19:02:01] Upload the files to your web server's web directory either by directly copying the unzipped folder or by using an FTP client such as FileZilla [19:02:22] I get confused at that [19:02:23] where's the server? [19:03:05] 03(mod) Bots should be able to set whether their edit should be marked as a bot edit . - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12574 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [19:03:12] I don't know, it's /your/ computer :) [19:03:20] ohhhhhhhhh [19:03:30] are you running it on your desktop? [19:03:39] Charitwo: ? [19:03:40] yea [19:04:08] Charitwo? [19:04:38] Nikerabbit: was pointing to kibble, you called him out earlier when he wasn't here [19:04:47] oh [19:06:03] Irunongames: ok, so have you installed apache? [19:08:47] 03(mod) Show some gadgets only for admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12211 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [19:10:05] i'll install apache now [19:11:02] 03(mod) Special:Import should have a hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11537 (10mikelifeguard) [19:11:11] 03(mod) Add Hooks to SpecialImport and SpecialExport - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11539 (10mikelifeguard) [19:13:47] 03(mod) Special:CategoryRedirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10448 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [19:14:24] http://mirrors.24-7-solutions.net/pub/apache/ [19:14:27] what do i download? [19:15:30] Irunongames: If you run Windows, XAMPP is perhaps the easiest thing. [19:15:38] I used that, and it has worked very nicely [19:20:32] 03(mod) Special:Mystyle and Special:Myscript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6908 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [19:22:23] mike [19:22:29] do i install all 3? [19:24:26] check the requirement, but you *need* apache, php, mysql [19:24:59] or postgres instead of mysql ;) [19:25:09] 03(mod) Remove autoblocks when a user is unblocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5445 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [19:25:17] Irunongames: yes, php, apache and mysql [19:25:20] all needed [19:25:41] guess you have to get familiar with mysql/apache/ config before try to install mediawiki [19:25:46] ialex: yes for sure ;) [19:26:35] Irunongames: by the way, windows ? linux ? bsd ? mac os X ? [19:27:07] Hi [19:27:11] hi [19:27:18] Hi [19:27:28] hi [19:27:32] I'm trying to make my urls shorter [19:27:53] ww.mediawiki.org/wiki/Short_URL [19:27:56] This one works well [19:27:57] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access [19:28:18] but ? ;) [19:28:20] but on subpages, the logo and favicon doesn't show [19:28:42] i want to convert my blog site to wiki style, any suggestions? [19:29:04] sony-ak: lot of coffee and a good keyboard ;) [19:29:06] This is with php as cgi, so I've tried the method for that too, without any more luck [19:29:13] lol [19:29:19] :) [19:29:45] sorry sony-ak , no idea ;) [19:29:48] @pingouin: hehehe, i mean can users give comments on article or page on wiki? [19:30:09] 03(mod) Hide the edit summary in Undelete for non-sysops, then grant " deletedhistory" to every user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5415 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [19:30:15] blog system like wordpress are far different from mediawiki [19:30:30] anyone with a suggestion? [19:31:48] @pingouin yes, my blog is about php knowledge, and i want to change it to wiki [19:31:57] ping:i use windows [19:32:36] hi, can i disable or change the redirecting/URL to wiki/index.php/Main ? [19:35:24] 03(mod) PATCH: Minimal skin for use by PDAs, bots and dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3651 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [19:43:56] having some trouble with svgs, so i edited the config. making some progress (i guess) [19:44:10] because i now get a placeholder thumbnail http://localhost/w/skins/common/images/icons/fileicon-svg.png [19:44:34] instead of a grey error message [19:45:16] i know that url's no good to anyone else but the file name might be familiar [19:46:27] at first i thought it was a corrupt svg but i got the same thing with a completely blank one [19:51:42] If an extension parser hook is returning this: [19:51:43] return '[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|offset='.$page.'}} '.$text.']'; [19:51:51] what do I need to do to get the {{fullurl part to work? [20:04:05] hello [20:04:25] i have a question of the mediawiki structure: [20:04:38] of = about ;-) [20:04:39] what is the best structure for the follwing article [20:05:17] i have a serie like colombo [20:05:23] with seasons [20:05:41] for example sesaon 6 - serie 10 - "title" [20:05:50] what is the best structure for that [20:07:12] default_: if you have subpages enabled, that is a logical way to organize such pages [20:07:22] ok the imagemajgick seems to work from the cmd line [20:08:19] i would do it like the album-structure of dewiki and enwiki [20:08:21] renders differently than it should but i'll worry about that later [20:08:40] a navigation box on the bottom of each related page of that band/film/serie/whatever [20:08:46] with a template [20:09:18] is there some example? [20:09:34] yes [20:10:03] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_los_tioz [20:10:13] or look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_los_tioz [20:10:17] it's nearly the same [20:10:56] if you look into the source, you'll find the name of that template, so you can look up for it and use it for your wiki, if you copy the revision history into your wiki [20:11:14] ... as long as you use the same license ... [20:11:59] ok thank you :-) [20:19:14] 03ashley * r43866 10/trunk/extensions/Maintenance/ (4 files): (log message trimmed) [20:19:14] Maintenance extension: [20:19:14] *tweak doxygen comments [20:19:14] *check for block/database lock in Maintenance::execute [20:19:14] *addWikiText(wfMsg()) -> addWikiMsg() [20:19:14] *change user to 'Delete page script' for deleteBatch/deleteRevision scripts (TODO: make a dropdown which allows the user to choose if it should be run as a script or as the current user) [20:19:19] *immediateCommit -> commit [20:21:44] i think it's a "windows" problem. I had to override the value of $wgSVGConverters["ImageMagick"]. seems to work now [20:22:26] I've heard ImageMagick kind of sucks for SVGs [20:24:51] well i'm using it because it's what brion uses, and i want to make sure things look right before uploading on commons [20:26:59] actually what i'd really like is some button in inkscape to redraw in a way that displays properly outside of inkscape [20:28:08] I thought Wikimedia used rsvg or something [20:29:29] chuck: Does all of the wikitext end up unparsed, or just the {{fullurl:}} ? [20:29:31] oh? that's news to me. [20:29:47] Special:Version doesn't seem to say [20:29:54] In the former case you probably want to do $wgParser->recursiveTagParse("stuff you want to parse"); and that'll return HTML which you can returnr [20:30:32] RoanKattouw, It's all unparsed. [20:30:49] Then you probably need my recursiveTagParse suggestion above [20:30:57] maybe i've been thinking wrongly this whole time, and "imagemagick" is used as a generic trademark around here >_> [20:31:42] RoanKattouw_away, oh, good idea. [20:32:00] hrm, I wonder if I should edit DPLforum to fix that after I make sure it works, or no? [20:32:45] RoanKattouw does wmf in fact use something other than imagemagick or do you know [20:33:26] RoanKattouw_away, hrm, now i'm just getting the HTML inside of the article. [20:42:06] if I want to cite a comment in a piece of C code available in CVS on the web, would I use cite_web, or is there a better way? [20:44:56] <^demon> mattst88: Ask in #wikipedia-en, they're the best place to ask. [20:45:05] OK, thanks :) [20:45:11] ok here's what's happening now, i'm making a map which includes some rivers and they look fine in inkscape, but the imagemagick wants to close the polygon (source to mouth) and fill it with black [20:45:47] grrr [20:47:39] Does cascading protection protect images as well as inclusions? [20:48:00] I believe so [20:48:42] yes unless said images are on commons [20:48:54] k, right [21:20:24] chuck: That's weird. Then you're left with either parsing just the {{fullurl:}} through recursiveTagParse() or use the Title functions to get what you need [21:20:28] !class Title | chuck [21:20:28] --mwbot-- chuck: See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classTitle.html [21:22:09] RoanKattouw, but the link isn't being parsed either [21:22:54] chuck: Not even if you do [http://www.example.com link text] ? [21:23:01] Cause links with invalid targets aren't parsed [21:24:16] apparently i have to set the fill opacity to zero (as if specifying "no fill color" isn't enough) [21:24:17] oh. [21:24:56] chuck: So try whether links with valid targets are parsed. If they are, use Title::getFullURL() or whatever the right function is (see the link I gave you) to build you a valid link [21:25:29] allright [21:31:07] RoanKattouw_away, woot, it's working, thanks [21:42:44] Hey, does anyone know what's a Edit interval in Flaggedrevs [21:48:02] Anyone here? [21:55:12] chuck? [21:58:55] techman224: you want to ask Aaron, who is not here now. [21:59:09] I don't know precisely. I probably did at one point though ^_^ [21:59:20] of course, one could read the code [22:00:42] 03ialex * r43867 10/trunk/phase3/CREDITS: Added missing devs [22:05:58] 03(NEW) Unreachable article on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16430 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (happy_melon) [22:06:26] I am having problems with the autoloader on a fresh install of MediaWiki. There is some syntax error [22:06:49] 03(mod) Unreachable article on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16430 (10alex.emsenhuber) [22:07:11] 03(mod) Unreachable article on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16430 (10alex.emsenhuber) [22:10:50] Rain: what's the error? [22:15:04] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16263 (10derhausgeist) [22:21:33] hey guys just uploaded mediawiki to my site but when I try to installing it by going to http://wiki.mydomain.net/config/index.php I get redirected to my domains admin panel. Is there anotherway to install mediawiki? [22:21:55] !install | WyriHaximus [22:21:55] --mwbot-- WyriHaximus: Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [22:23:29] Charitwo, you could have just said no ... [22:23:55] WyriHaximus: a) don't install mediawiki into the root directory. that's a bad idea. b) your hoster has "config" aliased to your admin panel. rename the copnfig dir to something else. [22:24:18] Charitwo: that is indeed unlikely to help him. [22:24:36] Charitwo: but feel free to add that info to :) [22:24:43] too lazy [22:24:46] !rar [22:24:46] --mwbot-- rar [22:25:09] Duesentrieb, yeah problebly on admin or something but not on config, can see that hit in the access logs, is it redirecting to /admin or something? (btw it's a subdomain :)) [22:25:39] it doesn't matter if it's a subdomain. [22:25:59] and it's not redirecting, it's an alias. [22:26:16] it intercepts the request before it reaches mediawiki. [22:26:21] so, just rename the config dir. [22:27:27] Duesentrieb, hmm your right, odd previouos calls to aliases didn't leave traces in the access log. o well thanks :) [22:37:31] Duesentrieb, that worked altho a file edit is required :) [22:37:52] possible. [22:38:04] anyway... you shouldn't put your files into the root dir. it's a bad idea. [22:38:15] especially if you want to use "pretty" urls [22:39:03] yeah gonne check that out now :) [22:39:51] btw whats a good directory to put it in instead? [22:45:20] !pretty urls | WyriHaximus [22:45:20] --mwbot-- WyriHaximus: I don't know anything about "pretty". [22:45:36] !botnoob [22:45:36] --mwbot-- I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. [22:45:49] !shorturls | WyriHaximus [22:45:49] --mwbot-- WyriHaximus: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [22:46:18] WyriHaximus: the traditional dir to put the files in ins /w, but /mw or /whateveryoulike will work fine. [22:46:28] oki :) [22:46:29] (that's relative to your subdomains document root) [22:47:04] yeah I'll firgure something out :) [23:06:02] Does anyone know what brion wanted to say to me last night? [23:10:36] *werdnum suppresses jokes. [23:11:06] Question: Does anyone know where I can find a generic PHP class (separate from mediawiki) that parses mediawiki wikitext? Google has failed me. [23:11:22] !parser | auzigog_ [23:11:22] --mwbot-- auzigog_: For alternative parsers, see . A new formalization and parser for mediawiki syntax is being discussed on wikitext-l, see . For an (incomplete) specification of mediawiki syntax, see . [23:15:51] !parser del [23:15:51] --mwbot-- Successfully removed keyword: parser [23:16:20] !parser is For alternative parsers, see . For an (incomplete) specification of mediawiki syntax, see . [23:16:20] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: parser [23:16:46] *Splarka again argues the futility of trying to parse wikitext anywhere but the wiki it is intended for [23:16:58] hi! [23:17:00] werdnum: thanks. i've actually seen all of those. i just can't seem to find a PHP class to do the parsing for me. I need one that I can just drop into my program. I was hoping someone here might know where I could find one. [23:17:00] {{#ifexist:Foo|do one thing|do another}} [23:17:14] i have small problem ;) [23:17:39] Splarka: i think it's pretty useful for doing simple formatting. headings, lists, emphasis, links, etc. [23:17:54] (and it isn't my bad skill in talk english :P) [23:18:06] sure, but even [[Link]] has two very different outcomes [23:18:15] in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download_from_SVN i see:Alternately, you can download the latest bleeding-edge development version used by the Wikimedia Foundation using the following command: [23:18:15] svn checkout http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3 [23:18:25] Splarka: you could just have callbacks for ifexist, getting content of templates, etc. [23:18:26] how can i use command? [23:18:30] and [[Foo:Link]], might be an interwiki, interlang, namespace alias (and if for Image or Category, that has very different behavior), or just page name [23:19:21] you really need access to the database, settings, and extensions of the engine to parse accurately [23:19:52] hmmmm... ok, thanks :D [23:20:00] You can still emulate a lot of that with callbacks. [23:20:19] hipekhopPL: What OS are you using? [23:20:19] hipekhopPL: that was directed at auzigog_ [23:20:39] i use fu.... frendly windows xp :P [23:21:02] Splarka: I think you're talking about getting everything exactly right. That's not always necessary, and could be implemented with callbacks et al anyway :) [23:21:08] hipekhopPL: oh. [23:21:10] *werdnum backs away. [23:21:10] heh [23:21:22] hipekhopPL: you need a Subversion client. [23:21:23] well, werd, it sounds like you're just talking about preprocessing [23:21:31] Splarka: no... [23:21:41] preprocessing includes variable replacement. [23:21:44] i have problem ;) [23:21:51] is it Windows XP? [23:21:52] or only parsing one level deep (templates make it very recursive) [23:21:55] heh [23:22:09] *Splarka gives werd a drum riff [23:22:13] firend, who have pass to data base and ftp is uncontactble [23:22:31] or- how can i say that... i cant call to he :P [23:22:57] i can do than, when i only admin on my MediaWiki? [23:23:29] it must have else way! :D [23:24:22] I don't understand your question. [23:24:33] yhhh... ;) [23:24:38] You have a friend, who can access the database? [23:24:46] yeah [23:24:47] He/You can't get to FTP? [23:24:56] (I don't understand the relevance of that) [23:25:02] i cant get to ftp and database [23:25:10] You can't "call to him" -- I don't understand this. [23:25:12] and cant call to my firen, who can [23:25:20] oh, I see. [23:25:39] Being an admin on MediaWiki will not give you the access you want to the server. [23:25:40] sorry, but i cant good spek english ;) [23:26:02] SO I don't think we can help you. [23:26:22] it would be nice if the API could generate a set of parser rules for a given wiki, or at least all the ones that are predictable (arbitrary mucking about of $text in tags like ParserBeforeStrip would be almost impossible to classify)... like a list of all parser extension tags and parserfunctions (core and extensions), magic words, languages, interwikis, image settings, namespaces and aliases, and a thousand other things. Pipe dream I know. [23:26:25] so- i must wait for friend... [23:26:43] ok, thanks werdnum :D [23:26:46] bye ;) [23:27:49] then at least you could know if {{FOO}} was a magic word, parser function, or template ahead of time when leaving a callback [23:28:03] Splarka: I think you're presenting lots and lots of problems without realising that these problems are trivial to resolve in a manner that may not be 100% correct, but certainly works in 99% of cases. [23:28:06] and if __SOMETHING__ should be escaped and shown, or hidden and doing something [23:28:18] well, where do you get 99%? [23:28:21] For instance, you could treat parser-functions and templates as the same syntax, and call a callback which gives back the wikitext. [23:28:25] you mean for 99 out of 100 pages on en.wp for example? [23:28:36] or 99% of the content of 99/100 pages on en.wp? [23:29:01] 99% of stuff that would be run through an alternative parser, not that it really matters - it's a rhetorical number. [23:29:32] And if you encountered a link, you could call a callback, which returns true if it exists, false otherwise. [23:29:54] so, basically it would defer to the regular parser? or.. I guess don't understand... what is the point if it can't finish? [23:30:18] it defers to whoever's calling it. [23:35:30] *Splarka realizes mediawiki's monopoly in mediawiki wikicode parsing is more secure with an open source spaghetti format than a supposedly 'secure' proprietary format [23:35:41] xDD [23:53:27] *Dantman finds WikiText far to simple and far to complex at the same time [23:54:49] Parsing articles with the insane amount of nested {}'s, different treatments of []'s, and parser functions, magic words, and templates is to complex for articles... It makes it near impossible to provide a sane interface for it [23:54:56] hello together [23:55:32] But with ParserFunctions in templates, [23:56:12] it's far to limiting to create templates like See also or anything that does anything repeatative in a sane way [23:57:39] ie: MediaWiki's 1 blob to 1 title model where it focuses entirely around the title is what is restricting MW from providing a sane interface and a good workflow for users [23:57:41] and that fills my quota of " Actually I'm already working on that" for the day [23:58:33] ^_^ Working on everything, yet working on nothing... whohoo! [23:58:40] *Splarka gives dan some ritalin! ^_^