[00:01:11] Mediawiki:userinvalidcssjstitle [00:06:26] "Happy birthday! Soon this bug will be able to buy alcohol." [00:06:54] *werdnum snorts. [00:06:58] Simetrical: good one :P [00:08:09] *werdnum adds to bugzilla quips [00:09:11] Simetrical: 18 or 21? [00:09:59] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61098 [00:10:23] It's 8, actually. Apparently they have rather lax laws on the sale of alcohol wherever Krzysiek Grzebalski comes from. [00:10:33] Simetrical: we don't have that many bugs [00:10:40] perhaps there's an extra char there, the 8 at the end? [00:11:05] oh, mozilla [00:11:06] ignore me [00:11:08] Or perhaps you're misreading the domain name? [00:11:55] yeah :) [00:12:29] *werdnum self-ignores. [00:14:50] :P [00:17:33] here's one from 1998, wow: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507 [00:23:18] Good grief, SCO still hasn't given up? http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20081125183259772 [00:26:03] lawl [00:26:19] no, law [00:26:52] Do they think they have a snowball's chance in hell of actually achieving anything? [00:27:03] *yksinaisyyteni gets around to paying for pobox account 2 days before it expires [01:17:01] 03siebrand * r43989 10/trunk/extensions/GoogleAdSense/GoogleAdSense.php: Bump version [01:17:20] *siebrand pokes CIA-9. [01:17:39] *Charitwo eats CIA-9 [01:17:39] *CIA-9 tastes crunchy [01:18:13] sie: it wasn't lagged and didn't trim your message, why poke the poor innocent bot? heh [01:25:10] Splarka: because somehow r43988 was missed completely. Didn't get mail either. [01:25:52] ahh [01:31:44] 03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 (10smccandlish) [01:36:58] hi [01:37:20] is there a tool to translate PDF to mediawiki ? [01:51:52] Is it posible to left-jusity a template? [01:52:39] the template itself or the text inside it? [01:53:20] hrm, the template iteslf [01:53:21] itself [01:53:37] I want the template to be to the left of some text [01:53:39] float it and specify dimensions [01:53:41]
Foo bar
[01:53:55] (or table, blockquote, etc) [01:55:13] hrm, ok i will try playing with this [02:25:05] 03siebrand * r43988 10/trunk/extensions/GoogleAdSense/ (GoogleAdSense.class.php GoogleAdSense.php): [02:25:05] * add option to only show the ads to anonymous users [02:25:05] * (commented out because it needs fixing) add hook to inject CSS, instead if having to add it to common.css [02:26:57] hello all [02:27:20] !ask | agaran [02:27:20] --mwbot-- agaran: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [02:29:30] Charitwo: no luck, i wont ask questions now;) [04:11:01] 03(NEW) MessagesArz.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16469 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Documentation; (gaghaly) [04:11:38] 03(mod) MessagesArz.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16469 normal->high (10gaghaly) [04:18:35] NEone awake? I have a quick Q around infrastructure for Mediawiki [04:18:59] Web farming, specifically [04:23:42] Is there specific docs available describing best practice for web farming, Win based in IIS? [04:24:46] Or, use the base install on every machine, and use your prefered content switch load balancing algo? [05:18:54] Having a problem with the extension when there's more than one, at e.g. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Upgrading_the_XO. In the HTML the MediaWiki:Sitenotice and an imagemap in a template both get assigned usemap="#ImageMap_1" [05:23:32] It seems if both imagemaps are in the body, the generated HTML gives the second one usemap="#ImageMap_2" [05:23:45] sitemaps are kinda odd that way [05:23:51] er, sitenotices [05:24:03] try putting {{PAGENAME}} in one and observe the hilarity [05:27:29] skierpage: as you're only doing it for a single click, then maybe you don't really need a full imagemap there. Can you enable external images or external images from, install the click or icon extension, upgrade to 1.14? [05:28:19] The name is simply $mapName = "ImageMap_" . ++self::$id; , I guess the SiteNotice gets the same ID 1 in a different context. [05:28:42] the sitenotice isn't page-sensitive, or rather, it gets cached in an odd way [05:28:51] it doesn't really know what page it is on, so that sort of checking isn't done [05:29:13] Splarka thanks for the suggestions. Someone else came up with this banner, someone else asked me to fix... [05:29:26] skierpage: are any of those open to you? if not I have a work-around [05:32:51] I don't know why this banner is even done as an imagemap, seems like it could just be an image with a link. rect 0 0 1200 1200 [http://laptop.org/xo Give a laptop. Change the world.] ? [05:33:08] heh [05:33:35] well, images can't have links easily, except in 1.14+ or by relaxed settings [05:33:38] hang on [05:40:40] skierpage: still here? [05:41:10] I suggest something like this to start with, in the sitenotice: [05:41:13] http://p.defau.lt/?PZJ7LLGLLk_N_1xFecPYmA [05:41:42] this is 3 divs, one wrapper, one hidden external link with no text (get to that in a sec), one visible external link with plain text, centered... [05:42:05] you get that with the following wikicode: [05:42:07] http://p.defau.lt/?pcqlVCOcKAlYrrQw3U79kg [05:42:17] 03(NEW) SUL: MergeAccount missing on Wikimania 2006 wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16470 minor; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (wiki.bugzilla) [05:42:25] and then in MediaWiki:Common.css : http://p.defau.lt/?HOob_JJABh49N6o0OA7VkA [05:42:46] Splarka I'm not worthy. [05:42:48] this is CSS to turn the above code into a clickable image, by giving the hidden visibility, size, and a background image [05:42:59] skierpage: I wrote most of... [05:43:01] !imagelink [05:43:01] --mwbot-- In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. [05:43:11] of that thing: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Linked_images [05:43:17] *Splarka does this thing a lot X_X [05:43:46] thank {{diety}} it is mostly deprecated in 1.14 [05:44:09] skierpage: the reason to have a fallback without the CSS, is because the CSS doesn't activate right away [05:44:22] so with this method it works (if not prettily) with or without it [05:44:24] 03(NEW) conflicting usemaps if MediaWiki:Sitenotice uses as well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16471 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ImageMap; (info) [05:48:24] Splarka, most excellent. A brand new XO is on its way to you... ... if you follow the link and pay Amazon some money :-) [05:51:06] 03(mod) UTF-8 Bug: umlaut misdisplayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781 (10wiki.bugzilla) [05:52:14] 03(mod) syntax is not valid xhtml 1.0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1124 (10wiki.bugzilla) [05:52:26] I've given amazon enough money, heh [05:53:27] is not typically put into sitenotices by sane people [05:59:15] :D [06:01:43] Splarka: This is mediawiki, were not sane people >.> [06:02:14] mediawiki lacks vim-like editor instead of rich editor [06:02:54] is there any mediawiki map that let me to understand whicch part are launched before content is displayed? [06:03:03] if i have to track why something dont work [06:05:22] agaran: in the skin or in the parser? [06:05:59] Splarka: am trying to figure why lockdown extension works in few places but dont in few others, [06:06:51] so i assume if i can trace request to display i could find where it should interract and it doesnt [06:07:17] ahh, ouch then [06:08:00] it works for me with combo boxes limitation but still show in search and lets to view all pages.. so i say less important part of functionality works only [06:10:07] ( $result->getTitle()->userCanRead() ) ) thsi is suspected part for search, [06:10:15] agaran: read the extension page and it discusses about search pages and such [06:10:38] p858snake: already applied that patches, and some works some not, thats why am bothering here [06:33:49] 03(mod) number translation for MessagesArz.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16469 high->normal; summary (10raimond.spekking) [06:42:31] r [06:44:32] p858snake: found problem, Lockdown dont lock page read right IF page namespace name contain spaces not _, but nothing gives any warning.. [06:46:34] 03(NEW) Bug in PasswordReset extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16472 04BLOCKER; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin) [06:48:45] 03(mod) Bug in PasswordReset extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16472 normal->highest (10bertrand.grondin) [06:50:41] ahh, good thing they removed the 'severity' dropdown from the new bug input form, that means instead of people uselessly setting it to highest on bug submission, they can instead go back and do it manually, doubling the emails and channel spams [06:53:45] 03(mod) Bug in PasswordReset extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16472 (10bertrand.grondin) [06:57:58] Splarka: every bug grondin files is a critical bug for some reason [06:58:31] I am sure it is an innocent mistake :) [07:00:06] Splarka: :) [07:01:40] someone should change the word 'severity' to 'After I get stabbed I want my hospital chart to say' [07:02:12] :DDDDD [07:02:22] well, wait, that works for status better, where 'critical' is, maybe... [07:02:34] maybe it should be sewerity ;) as from sewer.. [07:07:47] is there any way to set users email in wiki without knowing password but having sysop/beaucrat privledge and/or access to sql? [07:07:58] but best way would be without sql [07:09:16] found maintenance/useroptions.php [07:20:43] <_wooz> lo [07:20:52] 03(mod) Bug in PasswordReset extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16472 (10raimond.spekking) [07:29:24] Anyone here successfully set up LDAP authentication against a Windows Active Directory domain from an ubuntu server? [07:29:41] as in, domain is on the windows box, and mediawiki is on the ubuntu box [07:45:22] 03aaron * r43990 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (bug 16445) add info if accounts are not sul accounts to cu results [07:45:42] 03(FIXED) please add info if accounts are not sul accounts to cu results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16445 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [07:51:23] AaronSchulz: Do you have some time to review a patch for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11148 (Users can login with global account and create an account in a wiki even if IP is blocked from account creations) ? [07:51:59] that doesn't seem like a bug [07:52:11] creating a local account for SUL accounts is just an implementation detail [07:52:15] the user already has an account [07:53:28] Whether it is a bug or a feature request is fairly immaterial. This bug is abused on a regular basis, and the patch which is supposed to fix it has received no attention. [07:54:12] 03aaron * r43991 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.php CodeRevisionView.php SpecialCode.php): (bug 16049) Editable stylesheet location for CodeReview [07:54:28] it shouldn't be fixed [07:54:35] because that would be introducing a new bug [07:54:38] I alone have blocked nearly an entire city to combat disruption which could have been avoided by blocking account creation where it should be blocked. [07:54:39] 03(FIXED) Editable stylesheet location for CodeReview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16049 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [07:54:41] instead, another solution to the problem shuld be found [08:00:03] Hi [08:01:40] Mike_lifeguard: the point of SUL is to make single wiki accounts wikimedia accounts. Once you have a global account, creation blocks shouldn't stop the auto-creation. The fact that local accounts are silently made is really just an implementation detail. [08:02:06] maybe some way to have them blocked as soon as they log in might be better [08:02:12] or something... [08:02:14] I don't understand what you mean. If account creation is blocked, yet accounts are created, that is a bug. [08:02:47] It might be feasible to separate out whether autocreated vs manually created accounts can be created [08:03:05] but that is fairly pointless as everyone will just check and uncheck those together [08:05:51] Since even the /creation/ of accounts can be considered vandalism (I shouldn't name names) I doubt blocking the account as soon as it is created in worth doing. [08:06:19] Mike_lifeguard: our point is, the account was *already* created [08:06:23] the user's account is the global account [08:06:40] local accounts shouldn't even exist if it wsa done properly, it's just something that has to be done at the moment for legacy reasons [08:08:05] So, you are asking us to use a sledgehammer instead of allowing us to target blocks appropriately. [08:08:36] no [08:08:46] if you actually read what i said... [08:08:53] a solution should be found to the actual problem [08:10:33] What would such a solution look like? The problem as I see is what I stated. Account creation isn't blocked when the sysop says to block account creation. [08:14:36] there is no account creation [08:14:43] the account has already been created [08:15:44] [x] block blocked global accounts with no edits except to their own talkpage [08:15:58] *Splarka hides [08:16:54] :D [08:16:56] Then what is the point of blocking account creation? [08:17:19] Unless a block on one wiki is going to affect all others, it needs to affect the local wiki. [08:17:25] which is what we've asked for [08:17:40] blocking globally when blocking locally will do is bad practice [08:17:48] is there a way to constantly update a value given a pre-defined value? [08:17:59] hardblocking when softblocking will do is bad practice [08:18:23] we would like the ability to curb abuse properly, thanks [08:19:41] say, if Value X increases, then add 24 to Value B [08:20:22] Mike_lifeguard: perhaps the local account chould be blocked upon creation. if SUL's account creation stuff is a problem in itself, that should be fixed so it isn't [08:21:03] maybe a permanent autoblock that can simply be removed? [08:21:08] Again, the account creation itself may be considered vandalism. We don't want accounts being created at all when account creation is blocked. [08:21:14] sort of a "oh, you snuck in, lets stop that, but let it be lifted easily if it was a mistake" [08:21:19] Just do what it says on the tin. [08:21:21] again, are you reading what i'm saying? [08:21:34] Yes, but it makes no sense. [08:21:37] if SUL's account creation stuff is a problem in itself, that should be fixed so it isn't [08:22:04] Is that a suggestion to disable automatic account creations? [08:22:09] no [08:22:11] don't block [[User:Bob]] who happened to autocreate on anon-block account-block 1.2.3.4, but autoblock #12345 [Autoblocked autocreated global account on banned range] [08:22:13] I rather think that would be overkill [08:22:14] i didn't say disable it, i said fix it [08:22:25] what is the problem? log entries? then remove the log entries [08:22:32] something else? find a way to fix the something else [08:23:00] How I can publish a news or a page in Mediawiki? Actually I edit the main page and insert a news manually. I would like to have a form to insert news that must be written in a database... How I can do it? Is there an extensions? [08:23:40] Semantic Forms, I believe. I may have the spelling wrong [08:23:48] deleting log entries would be most welcome, however the problem is accounts being created on the range [08:23:53] or ip [08:23:57] but you can use it to submit a template to a page [08:24:05] why is accounts being created a problem? [08:24:51] if(account creation blocked on ip/range && global user on ip/range autocreated) -> unlogged autoblock showing on IPBlockList -> request removal of autoblock letting them edit as if they'd been account-created by a sysop by request [08:24:53] because they shouldn't be - they're (supposedly) blocked [08:25:11] the problem i see is that your local autoblocks and/or account creation blocks aren't taking effect [08:25:23] the exact reason why someone has blocked account creation is nearly irrelevant [08:25:28] while it's impossible to stop account creations, because *the account has already been created*, you can prevent the new account from editing [08:25:44] a separate issue you're describing is that SUL creates annoying/spam/whatever log entries [08:26:01] so that can be fixed by not logging SUL's new local accounts [08:26:26] That would be unbelievably worse. Then we wouldn't even know the vandal accounts exist. [08:26:37] they're only logged in Special:Log and not Special:Recentchanges now, right? [08:26:42] Yes [08:26:54] except sometimes not either [08:26:58] then just stop logging accounts which were automatically blocked [08:27:09] but keep logging not-blocked new local accounts [08:27:10] http://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Specjalna%3ARejestr&type=&user=&page=User%3ASplarka&uselang=en http://pl.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allusers&aufrom=Splarka&auprop=registration&aulimit=1 [08:27:44] or just log the account creation in the block log [08:27:56] that would work [08:28:21] although i think he's complaining that usernames can be vandalism [08:28:28] hence the desire not to create log entries [08:28:34] yah [08:28:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/block [08:28:54] Mike_lifeguard: so does this solution leave any remaining problems? [08:28:56] blocked D1ck4sRus [08:29:07] blocked I gonna still miss the dimples on your ass---peter griffin [08:29:15] nothing new there [08:29:18] it seems to have the same effect as before (no log entries are created on the local wiki and the account can't edit) [08:29:26] and those show in recent changes (unless botted) [08:29:54] other than generally being a hideous solution to a straightforward problem? [08:30:09] sul was perhaps a bad idea [08:30:11] i don't think i've clearly described what's wrong with your solution [08:30:37] when a user has a SUL account, their account already exists in SUL. the fact a local "account" is needed is just an implementation detail, and might not even happen in the future [08:30:43] which is heresy, but if simple features like blocking stop working properly... [08:30:58] so, if we implement your solution, and all your local blocks stop working again, we need to find yet another solution [08:31:06] while the solution i proposed already works properly with SUL [08:31:36] SUL the way it was done is a bad idea. my suggested method was much better and avoids all these problems [08:31:50] yeah, I can agree with that at this point [08:31:54] this is insane [08:32:29] anyone uses SidebarEx? [08:33:07] actually, it might've been possible to do SUL properly this way, but it needs much more work than was actually done on it [08:33:07] perhaps with SUL, "[x] block account creation" is somewhat of a useless feature [08:33:23] perhaps it should be renamed "[x] autoblock new global users" [08:33:28] Splarka: well, the "right" solution is a global account creation block. but you can imagine all the politics involved there.. [08:33:45] yksinaisyyteni, well... [08:33:48] no, that's overkill [08:33:53] local blocking should work [08:34:00] the problem is, say you have an asshole in a small town with a vendetta against fr.wikisource [08:34:04] not everything needs to affect well over 730 wikis [08:34:05] and he has a /16 to play in [08:34:20] but say there are many registered users on that /16 [08:34:28] i never liked the way wikipedia is 700 separate sites to begin with [08:34:29] he can't _not_ create a global account for every new name... [08:34:39] another crappy solution caused by not considering the problem before implementing a solution [08:34:44] but he realizes he can simply go to another wiki to get around local rangeblocks [08:34:53] a /16 rangeblock on all 700 is not feasable [08:34:57] even if it is at a local level [08:35:09] feasIble, even [08:35:42] although this is a bit akin to "block users per page" in a way [08:36:05] but it is regression to ignore this workaround to a perfectly well established method of blocking select people on a range while allowing others [08:36:13] lose-lose [08:48:48] I've been thinking on that thing I mentioned last time, about moving an object from point A to point B over a period of time, [08:49:18] after much thought, and although still some is required, I found a basic way to do this, but I need to know if some things are possible, [08:50:18] such as, is there a way to ask if a day has passed, and secondly, if there is a way to add a value to another value(say, 1+x=2) if another value equaled true, [08:50:39] say again, if a day has passed, then add 1 to x [08:50:47] 03(mod) It shouldn' t be possible to send Wikimails containing weblinks on blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16466 +comment (10syrcro) [08:51:12] so that, I have the origin of the floating object above a map, [08:52:46] if a day has passed since the last change in movement, then (some number) is added or subtracted to the left positioning in pixels of the object and (some number) is added or subtracted to the top positioning of the object in pixels [08:53:00] therefore moving it across the page [08:53:12] 03(mod) It shouldn' t be possible to send Wikimails containing weblinks on blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16466 (10syrcro) [08:54:37] Daedalus969: I think you'll have to pick an arbitrary starting date and just calculate in each function how many days have passed since then, but you could pass that date as a template parameter I suppose [08:55:05] *Daedalus969 thinks for a second, [08:55:59] "about moving an object from point A to point B over a period of time," [08:56:10] lets think less abstractly [08:56:10] give me two dates [08:56:25] but the dates shouldn't matter [08:56:26] 03(mod) It shouldn' t be possible to send Wikimails containing weblinks on blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16466 (10mikelifeguard) [08:56:31] the speed of the object should be constant [08:56:51] hrm [08:57:00] 03(mod) It shouldn' t be possible to send Wikimails containing weblinks on blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16466 (10mikelifeguard) [08:57:26] 03(mod) It shouldn' t be possible to send Wikimails containing weblinks on blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16466 (10mikelifeguard) [08:57:57] when I think about this, the possibility wavers very often, some times it seems possible, other times it seems impossible without the intervention by a extension [08:58:02] well, you want "over a period of time" [08:58:09] Splarka: i dont want to add fuel to fire but please keep in mind that ipv6 exist.. and there are slightly larger segments of addresses.. [08:58:13] that period has to start somewhere and end somewhere [08:58:26] or at least, say, loop over two given points [08:58:28] right, [08:58:42] but that period is controlled by the current positioning of the object [08:58:54] agaran: not an influence in the root problem, /16 was just an example [08:59:12] it will move a set distance every day until it's current coordinates are greater than or equal to the destination coordinates [08:59:14] *sigh* [08:59:40] okay, with a wiki and parserfunctions, what you want is possible [08:59:46] Splarka: i didnt follow discussion too close, to much work. /16 in ipv6 is almost whole world.. (if 2001/16 is taken..) [08:59:50] but not if you don't choose a start date [08:59:57] not just something as abstract as 'when I hit save' [09:00:01] agaran: /16 was used as an example of an ISP's dialup/DHCP pool [09:00:08] obviously it wouldn't be a /16 in ipv6 (more likely a /64) [09:00:12] er, /48, with /64 allocations [09:00:23] agaran: /16 is the largest IPv4 block possible on mediawiki, I was using it as an extreme example [09:00:29] please don't pay attention to the /16 part [09:00:37] Splarka: ok. [09:01:30] start date, okay, what about an end date, or can that be controlled by say... [09:01:55] if current position is greater than or equal to destination position, then end date equals current date [09:01:57] Daedalus969: okay, lets say you have an image, a map, a sine wave, and two defined, arbitrary but redefinable, dates at which it is at the start and end, or even say, two days of the week at which it starts and ends that wave... then it is possible if complex [09:02:27] the end date will involve math, like for example how many iterations of the sine wave you want, and how fast you want it to move [09:02:57] the example I gave yesterday started to touch on this [09:03:05] {{#ifexpr:{{#time:U}} > 1227169223 OR {{#time:U}} < 1228033223|top:{{#expr:sin((1228033223 - {{#time:U}}) / 864000 * 2 * pi)}};left:{{#expr:cos((1228033223 - {{#time:U}}) / 864000 * 2 * pi)}}| [09:04:19] {{#ifexpr:{{#time:U}} > 1227169223|{{#expr:sin((1228033223 - 1227169223) / 864000 * 2 * pi)}}|{{#expr:sin((0) / 864000 * 2 * pi)}}}} }} [09:04:20] or something [09:04:25] (makes my head hurt) [09:04:29] given the end location, [09:04:45] well... [09:04:47] hrm [09:04:50] reduces a 10 day span to a fraction of 1, takes the sine and cosine of it, gives you it [09:05:04] oops [09:06:16] second line should be more like [09:06:16] {{#ifexpr:{{#time:U}} > 1227169223|top:{{#expr:sin((1228033223 - 1227169223) / 864000 * 2 * pi)}};left:{{#expr:cos((1228033223 - 1227169223) / 864000 * 2 * pi)}}|top:{{#expr:sin((0) / 864000 * 2 * pi)}};left:{{#expr:cos((0) / 864000 * 2 * pi)}} }} [09:06:32] so, 10 day period, reduces time till end of that 10 day period to a fraction from 1 to 0 [09:06:43] gives you the sine and cosine of that fraction (as examples) [09:06:56] if before that period, gives you them of (1), if after, of (0) [09:07:07] that is what you want, right? [09:07:41] you can pass the two dates to that formula sorter as template parameters, so this would be probably two templates or more deep [09:08:30] the problem with that is, X days dictates the speed of the object [09:08:56] if the two points are close together, it will travel incredibly slowly, if they're far apart, it will travel incredibly fast [09:08:58] well, then the third parameter would be the number of days, or.. .you could calculate the number of days as the divisor [09:09:09] lets replace the dates with parameters... [09:10:00] is it possible to increase the end date by one day if a call equals true? [09:11:10] {{#ifexpr:{{#time:U}} > {{{start}}} OR {{#time:U}} < {{{end}}}|top:{{#expr:sin(({{{end}}} - {{#time:U}}) / ({{{end}}}-{{{start}}}) * 2 * pi)}};left:{{#expr:cos(({{{end}}} - {{#time:U}}) / ({{{end}}}-{{{start}}}) * 2 * pi)}}| [09:11:10] {{#ifexpr:{{#time:U}} > {{{start}}}|top:{{#expr:sin(({{{end}}} - {{{start}}}) / ({{{end}}}-{{{start}}}) * 2 * pi)}};left:{{#expr:cos(({{{end}}} - {{{start}}}) / ({{{end}}}-{{{start}}}) * 2 * pi)}}|top:{{#expr:sin((0) / ({{{end}}}-{{{start}}}) * 2 * pi)}};left:{{#expr:cos((0) / ({{{end}}}-{{{start}}}) * 2 * pi)}} }} [09:11:12] ugh [09:11:14] I hate wikicode [09:11:28] that auto-normalizes the difference between start and end to 1 [09:11:38] or in theory, I should test this shit, I'm just going from memory [09:12:11] Daedalus969: end date by one? well, instead of an end date you could give a start date and a lenght [09:12:26] well, I mean, [09:13:00] it sounds to me like you just wanna put in a 'start date' but not define an end date or length of time [09:13:04] which makes no sense [09:13:19] look at it this way [09:13:43] if we pre-define an end date, the object's speed will be defined by the distance between the objects [09:13:53] however, this object is supposed to have a constant speed [09:14:33] A plane wouldn't fly from California to Nevada in a week because of their distance. [09:14:52] hmm [09:15:02] the time it takes to travel would be determined by it's speed, rather than vice versa [09:15:13] well, even so, if you don't define an end date, it is determined by the speed, and so if you don't calculate, it, the code will [09:15:26] otherwise the floating image might end up past its container [09:15:41] but the end date is defined by the destination [09:16:07] if the object's current position is greater than or equal to the end destination, then the end date becomes today's current date [09:16:10] why do I have the feeling I walked in on a conversation that started with a train leaves chicago.... [09:16:18] if this were my job, I'd just do all this thinking on paper, and write the code using end/start dates and the image size, much easier wikicode that way [09:17:00] the easy-way out is for an extension to exist [09:17:25] sure, then it can render the image with the dot [09:17:26] an extension that creates an invisible line from two defined points using the left and top positioning systems, [09:17:39] with 0 being in the upper left corner of the image [09:18:21] then, a speed for the object to travel between the two points would be pre-defined, [09:19:24] *sigh* [09:19:35] well, good luck with the formula from that direction, heh [09:19:40] {{#plane:Image:image.suffix|speed|x1|y1|x2|y2}} [09:19:48] if only [09:19:55] also, plotting a constant speed on a sine wave with wikicode... [09:20:08] Hello, might anyone know something about the Collection extension? [09:20:40] well, look at it this way: [09:20:51] speed would be pre-defined in a number of pixels [09:21:06] a basic distance it would travel in any direction [09:21:30] kimbra:nope sorry, you wouldn't know the variable that defines user id do you? :) [09:22:58] and therefore, given this, and the starting position, the amount of distance an object moves left or right, the up or down is calculated using the basic speed of the object, and the direction the object is traveling [09:23:07] Daedalus969: no parserfunctions would do it like that [09:23:19] even variables doesn't remember from day to day [09:23:43] each display would calculate it from the beginning point, not "move X 7 pixels and Y 5 pixels" [09:24:20] it is as if you are wanting it to calculate the ending date by brute force, and in real time [09:25:23] okay, [09:25:28] what if, [09:25:30] genericdeviant: No, sorry. [09:26:13] but at least you wern't asking for a way to make your mediawiki installation control your connected toaster oven, or perform SETI cycles [09:26:31] I have just recently started testing mediawiki and printing to PDF. [09:26:34] kimbra: didn't think so but it was worth a try [09:26:53] So, I don't really know that much. Yet. ;-) [09:27:00] would it be able to calculate the time needed for the object to travel a distance between two points, and use that to create the end date? [09:27:08] yksinaisyyteni: tell me, why do people see mediawiki and think "wow, swiss army knife!" [09:27:10] given the speed of course [09:27:26] Daedalus969: there are better programs than mediawiki for that [09:27:46] I think you mis-understand me [09:28:07] mediawiki isn't for this sort of thing... you know the tag? it doesn't do math, it shows you already done math... [09:28:18] {{#expr: [09:29:20] it's not like this would involve a pile of chalk boards like some quantum mechanics equasion [09:29:55] just write an extension and be done with it [09:31:03] mediawiki official adage: just because you can do something (in wikitext) doesn't mean you should [09:34:22] *Daedalus969 sighs [09:34:52] I can't think of a way to calculate distance [09:35:03] Does the following warning mean anything to anyone: "2008-11-27T10:05:11 mwlib.options.warn >> WikiDB does not support setting a template blacklist" ? [09:35:16] and that would be needed to calculate end time, by number of possible movements along the path, [09:36:01] well, you can't do such daily movement in default wikicode or with any of the normal (read: popular and safe) extensions [09:36:20] so write an extension [09:37:48] ._. the only code I know is basic wikicode parser functions [09:44:06] well, night. [10:03:30] 04(REOPENED) Add Pagluluto: namespace to tlwikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16446 (10ryan_james_tamayo_amparo) [10:16:27] how i can delete on article on mediawiki, involuntary i created one with .sh with extension and now i cant open in mediawiki UrL, return a error The requested URL /Check_sinal_nera.sh was not found on this server. How i can delete this page? [10:17:22] does /Check_sinal_nera%2Esh work? [10:21:52] I have a question about parsing page contents in an extension's hook function. [10:22:55] I need to use strip() and replaceVariables() in order to remove comments, expand templates, etc. before I do a bit of my own processing. [10:23:15] HappyDog: there should be something about that in the extension faq. basically: use recursiveTagParse. But if this is a parser hook, consider to use a parser function instead. [10:23:40] ah, no full parse, then? [10:23:48] if i use $wfParser->setHook('something', 'somefuncname') how could i from somefuncname get attributes used in invocation fo ? [10:23:57] It's a function that is called from various interface hooks: after save, move, undelete, etc. [10:23:59] i mean that one which was registered with sethook [10:24:19] HappyDog: hm... ok. what's the exactly problem, then? [10:25:01] agaran: it will get passed as a parameter to your function. iirc parameters for parser hooks are: ($input, $params, $parser) [10:25:08] where params is an associative array [10:25:21] input would be the text between the tags [10:25:42] Duesentrieb: Here's the current code - http://rafb.net/p/POrnsF20.html [10:26:26] However, I recently added the mVariables and mOutput lines, as it broke in MW1.12 [10:27:04] I suspect that future updates will break it again, so I'm looking for a clean way to do the same thing. [10:27:50] Question, where can I find the signed hashes for the MediaWiki downloads to verify the integrity? [10:28:02] HappyDog: can't you use wgParser directly? [10:28:32] Brucevdk: they should be in the mail that announced the release [10:28:53] I thought that was not safe, as it can change the internal state of the parser. [10:29:28] HappyDog: yes, but afaik that only matters when done during parsing. [10:29:42] HappyDog: but you'll have to catch TimStarling if you want a definite answer :) [10:29:46] Brucevdk: [10:29:50] /** [10:29:51] * Split a filename into filename and extension [10:29:51] * [10:29:51] * @param $filename Filename [10:29:51] * @return array [10:29:51] */ [10:29:53] gah! [10:29:56] :) [10:29:59] bad paste, sorry! [10:30:04] Brucevdk: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/ [10:30:16] Brucevdk: thanks, I was looking for that [10:31:05] it would actually be nice to have that on the wiki. [10:31:16] and since the message itself is signed, it would even be safe :) [10:32:20] Splarka i fix the url check_sinal_url removing "short url" of my configuration [10:32:38] Splarka Thanks [10:32:41] Duesentrieb: interestingly enough the sha1 checksum's I'm calculating don't match up [10:33:10] Brucevdk: that's bad :) sure you are looking at the right file of the right release? how about the file size? [10:33:25] Duesentrieb: ok, seems parser dont like
in same line or sth like that but works now, thank you [10:33:44] Duesentrieb: c6f6e404ee9152deeec63cdc3278a2a57d556efe mediawiki-1.13.2.tar.gz -- there's no filesize to compare to? [10:34:07] Brucevdk: well, the one given on the download page vs the one on your disk. [10:34:09] Duesentrieb: maybe I'm not doing it right [10:34:16] *Brucevdk reads man page [10:34:41] i don't think there's much that can be done wrong [10:35:02] Duesentrieb: I thought it might have been trying to calculate the hash for the filename ;-) But that's not the case hah [10:35:24] Duesentrieb: ok, it was because of cacheing somewhere, if i dont edit page isnt updated even if output of hook is changed (but that might be browser cache too) [10:35:56] agaran: server side parser cache, actually. when testing stuff like that, always use an edit preview. [10:36:01] that's never cached. [10:36:09] Duesentrieb: where am I supposed to find the download page? [10:36:19] Duesentrieb: eh.. the filesize on the download page I mean [10:36:50] Brucevdk: http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.13/ [10:36:57] Brucevdk: where did you download it from?... [10:37:06] Duesentrieb: direct link: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download [10:37:28] oh, but the dir listing doesn't give an exact size either. [10:37:53] Duesentrieb: is there simple way to tell parser that one certain page should not be cached? at best from inside of hook, so if its used it invalidates cache for that page? [10:37:58] Duesentrieb: but I see a signature there, so I should be able to use that [10:38:27] agaran: yes, wgOutput->disableCache or some such. should be in the extension faq [10:40:39] Duesentrieb: gpg: BAD signature from "Tim Starling " [10:40:50] o_O [10:40:59] Duesentrieb: can you verify? [10:41:02] Brucevdk: i also get c6f6e404ee9152deeec63cdc3278a2a57d556efe for the file [10:41:10] well this sucks [10:41:16] :-) [10:42:36] Brucevdk: the email verifies fine for me. [10:42:59] Duesentrieb: not the e-mail, the signature for the download. http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.13/mediawiki-1.13.2.tar.gz.sig [10:45:03] Brucevdk: err. yes, that fails. bwahaha! [10:45:09] *Duesentrieb blames TimStarling [10:45:27] Duesentrieb: sooo... now what? :-) [10:45:45] Brucevdk: after nearly two months, you are the first tom complain, it seems. makes you wonder, doesn't it? [10:45:58] well... wait for time or brion to come along and fix it. [10:46:26] Duesentrieb: it actually does, funny considering this would be the first time I'm actually verifying the integrity before installing :-) [10:46:27] brion is on pacific time. tim is in australia, but living by his own special time zone. [10:46:29] time will fix it? heh [10:46:48] tim should :P [10:46:52] time will help [10:48:09] Brucevdk: you can also yell at tim by mail, if you like :) [10:52:29] Duesentrieb: heh, I could send him a friendly mail if you want? :-) [10:53:07] sure [10:53:16] Duesentrieb: want me to cc you? [10:53:18] catching him on irc is probably quicker though [10:53:22] Duesentrieb: $parser->disableCache(), works now, thank you very much [10:53:36] no need for a cc [10:53:44] ok [10:53:51] Dues: not this week I think ^_^ [10:54:19] Splarka: why? is he away? [10:54:44] http://angtim.com/ [10:58:09] heh, well in that case, does it still make sense to drop him a mail? [10:59:20] (I got an e-mail ready though, just waiting for a To: :) [11:01:24] Brucevdk: write to brion then [11:01:33] Splarka: didn't know that was this week :) [11:03:55] hey domas. Brucevdk just found that the signature for the 1.13.2 download is bad. what's up with that? [11:04:54] hi domas [11:14:52] hi ialex [11:15:00] hello werdnum [11:15:58] Duesentrieb/Brucevdk: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/mediawiki/146137 [11:17:39] Splarka: looks like it never got fixed. [11:21:40] I did already sent the e-mail btw [11:22:30] 04:52 < Duesentrieb> Brucevdk: you can also yell at tim by mail, if you like :) [11:22:33] 04:57 < Duesentrieb> catching him on irc is probably quicker though [11:22:36] Tim is on his honeymoon. [11:22:55] werdnum: we know Splarka said so, mail went out to Brion [11:23:19] Brion's at Thanksgiving. [11:23:30] werdnum: doom you Americans! :-) [11:23:33] I think Tim might get back from his honeymoon before the end of thanksgiving :) [11:23:38] Brucevdk: I'm not American. [11:23:39] werdnum ain't no merkin [11:23:41] *werdnum are Australian. [11:23:49] Actually, I was born in the bay area. [11:23:55] :) [11:26:04] Duesentrieb: sigh, I didn't notice the mailing lists sorts old to new so I missed [MediaWiki-announce] Version number incorrect in latest releases [11:26:17] Duesentrieb: the hashes match up fine with the ones mentioned there [11:41:14] 03ialex * r43992 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (5 files): [11:41:14] Added $wgConfigureExtensionsVar and $wgConfigureOnlyUseVarForExt to allow enabling extensions by setting a variable rather than directly include the file. [11:41:14] See Configure.php for further doc about those settings. [11:49:58] ooh, that sounds secksy. [11:50:11] ialex: I will be not working for two days or so. [11:50:17] Going away with my gf for the first time... [11:50:31] okay :) [11:50:48] spent the day convincing her, my parents, her parents. [11:51:01] hehe :) [11:51:09] have some nice days! [11:52:54] nights... [11:58:46] Duesentrieb: Sorry about that - just come off a rather long call... [11:59:23] Duesentrieb: On the mailing list, Roan Kattouw suggested clone($wgParser)... [12:00:04] I guess the only problem then is if the parser already contains data that could mess up the new parse [12:03:13] 03(NEW) inputbox transcludes improperly. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16473 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Inputbox; (hartman) [12:10:10] I am trying to figure out this MediaWiki API. [12:10:22] But I seem to have a difficult time obtaining an edittoken for when creating new pages. [12:10:42] The guide to obtain a token is only for when the page already exists. [12:10:47] And I want to create pages. [12:11:42] 03(mod) Bug in PasswordReset extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16472 (10alex.emsenhuber) [12:12:47] svip: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&titles=THISPAGEDOESNTEXIST&intoken=edit [12:12:54] it doesn't have to exist [12:13:05] Hm. [12:13:14] Strange. I am writing for my own wiki, btw. [12:13:36] just give it a title (pro tip: this currently is the same for all pages, and most actions except preferences, userrights, and rollback, BUT this may change in the future, so always supply action/title) [12:13:57] svip: what version? [12:13:58] Splarka: http://theinfosphere.org/api.php?action=query&prop=info&titles=THISPAGEDOESNTEXIST&intoken=edit [12:14:28] 1.13.1 [12:14:48] ahh, might have changed behavior since then [12:15:28] heh [12:15:29] Seems so, but how would they expect one to create pages with this old behaviour? [12:15:52] Hm! [12:15:53] did write api even function in 1.13? it is very new [12:15:57] It appears when I am logged in. [12:16:13] o_O Wait, do I have to send them as a cookie? [12:16:22] yes [12:16:26] Crazy. [12:16:27] do anon users have permission to create pages? [12:16:30] no, the token isn't a cookie [12:16:35] er [12:16:38] I know the token isn't. [12:16:38] not _as_, but with [12:17:03] although some things can be sent via POST, GET, _or_ cookie [12:17:10] crazy code [12:18:03] svip: okay, it looks like you can't intoken if you don't have permission to create pages [12:18:18] so giving tokens out for that'd be silly [12:21:20] Ah, makes sense. [12:21:50] *Splarka wonders if it would only give out tokens for existing pages, if users could edit but not create [12:22:31] 03ialex * r43993 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: Also call User::getGroupName() for values of $wgAddGroups, $wgRemoveGroups, $wgGroupsAddToSelf and $wgGroupsRemoveFromSelf [12:23:25] have one way to search words in text of article or best, in pdfs attacheds on mediawiki!? [12:23:35] Duesentrieb: I've switched the code to use $wgParser (see http://rafb.net/p/BT0evb97.html for new version) [12:23:58] I've also done a compare between the contents of $wgParser before and after using it, and here is the diff: http://www.kennel17.co.uk/scratch/wgparser_compare.htm [12:24:09] Do you reckon that will cause any problems? [12:24:38] Actually, that question goes to anyone - was only targetting Duesentrieb because of our previous conversation... [12:24:39] :) [12:25:11] i don't see a problem. [12:25:20] but i'm no expert for parser internals [12:26:47] There's some unexpected blank lines moving about, but the only real change is some extra elements in the strip state's 'data' array [12:28:39] 14(INVALID) collapsed tables should display show/ hide in caption not first cell - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16468 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [12:34:58] hello, is anyone here available for support on a new install? [12:35:28] no, but if you ask a question about what you want to know something about, maybe someone can answer that [12:36:30] I installed at ourusm.com and get a parse error if you just type the domain or domain/index.php [12:36:50] I can get to the site at domain/index.php5 [12:37:11] the error message is: Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_STATIC, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /home/content/b/a/l/baldeagle91/html/ourusm/includes/AutoLoader.php on line 10 [12:37:51] eaglepost: most likely, you are using php4 [12:38:46] domain/index.php5 would trigger php5. so... just use that? there are various options. [12:39:11] ok [12:41:45] any idea on how I can get it to pull up from the domain? [12:42:22] by setting index.php5 to be the default index file [12:43:19] that would be done by some directive in .htaccess, i forget the details [12:43:36] okay, I'll research on that. Thanks! [12:43:36] you also need to set $wgScript in your LocalSettings file [12:43:52] alternatively, you can set the handler for .php files to be php5, also in htaccess. [12:43:55] ask your host [12:44:13] k [12:44:13] eaglepost: by the way: if you plan to use "pretty" urls, it's a bad idea to install into the document root. [12:45:02] I'm not so worried with pretty urls, but would like a clean entry from the domain [13:00:44] Duesentrieb: Thanks for your help. I'm not sure if my new code is completely safe, but I'll leave it in place for now and see what comes of it... [13:03:39] hi [13:04:50] new user must type acorrect email and activate his account via activation mail. is that possible or send the password via email? [13:05:08] yes, that's possible [13:05:11] !access [13:05:11] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [13:05:14] should be listed in that guide. [13:05:16] (the second one) [13:06:53] werdnum: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_account_creation [13:07:37] S-i-A: I don't think that's what you want. [13:07:49] 03daniel * r43994 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (importImages.inc.php importImages.php): image import new supports per-image description files [13:09:28] Try $wgAutopromote['emailconfirmed'] = APCOND_EMAILCONFIRMED; $wgGroupPermissions['emailconfirmed'] = array_splice( $wgGroupPermissions['user'], 0 ); [13:11:19] That use of array_splice is freaky. [13:11:30] Come on, it's clever :) [13:12:02] *werdnum gives thanks for thanksgiving. [13:12:11] "clever" is usually the opposite of "readable". [13:12:20] Since Brion has thanksgiving, I can go off to the [[blue mountains]] with my girlfriend tomorrow night. [13:12:25] true. [13:15:09] yknow what thanksgiving is all about? not having to eat british food [13:15:20] weird 'mericans. [13:15:20] you eat the food you stole from the indians instead? [13:15:23] werdnum: that is not what need [13:15:25] yep! [13:15:38] http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-08/iq-range-occupations.jpg [13:15:47] note that australians don't observe it (mostly 'merkins and canucks)... because they have worse food than brits [13:15:53] i will no user activation without Correct email address [13:15:56] [13:16:03] we're ahead of 'miscellaneous engineers', but behind 'social scientists'. [13:16:16] S-i-A: might be an extension. [13:16:33] werdnum: aha ok [13:21:14] i 've actived the syntaxhiglighting, but will to edit the SOURCE tag in CSS, how ? [13:24:14] geshi? [13:42:06] Splarka: yes [13:44:05] [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]] [13:44:11] that should load on all pages with [13:45:15] and the source tags have classes depending in language (view page source and check 
[13:46:17] 	Splarka: who is Geshi.css in hich directory?
[13:48:25] 	*groan* damn you mediawiki
[13:48:33] 	S-i-A: it is not a file, it is a page on the wiki
[13:48:48] 	ok how can edit that?
[13:48:51] 	like [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] etc
[13:48:57] 	go to that page title, edit it!
[13:49:22] 	[[Main Page]] is a page on your wiki, or at least a potential page title anyways, right?
[13:49:24] 	so is [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]]
[13:50:14] 	Splarka: is one code in CSS file with pre
[13:50:18] 	no source
[13:50:28] 	and is notload with pre tag
[13:53:03] 	AaronSchulz: :)
[13:53:21] 	S-i-A: click 'edit' 
[13:53:37] 	edit OK
[13:53:38] 	siebrand: '/* Not working yet. Need to find out why...'
[13:53:41] 	:p
[13:53:50] 	yksinaisyyteni: ?
[13:53:54] 	?
[13:54:29] 	!itIsAPageNotAFileArrrrrrrrrrrrg
[13:54:45] 	yksinaisyyteni: you say click edit and?
[13:54:47] 	what?
[13:54:55] 	do you know how to use CSS?
[13:54:56] 	and then ask splarka what ot od next
[13:55:00] *yksinaisyyteni 	was just explaining how to edit a page
[13:55:05] 	yes, OD
[13:55:08] 	hmm, 'o' key fail
[13:55:25] *Splarka 	offers drugs to od
[13:55:35] 	yksinaisyyteni: that have nothing to with my question
[13:55:37] *AaronSchulz 	was about to joke on that
[13:55:43] 	S-i-A: yes it does
[13:55:51] 	hi
[13:55:52] *AaronSchulz 	stabs Splarka and steals his jokes
[13:55:57] 	Is it possible to have multitiple wikis sharing the same user database and -groups? (and I don't mean that stuff that wikimedia uses for SSO)
[13:56:00] 	if you want to apply style to  tags, then you edit [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]]
[13:56:01] 	Splarka: i solve it another way, and what you sai isn't correct
[13:56:02] 	i have a problem for my media wiki
[13:56:20] 	 i 've actived the syntaxhiglighting, but will to edit the SOURCE tag in CSS, how ?
[13:56:22] 	i want to insert apple java from slide.com
[13:56:29] 	S-i-A: then what you asked wasn't correct, rephrase
[13:56:33] 	Splarka: [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]]
[13:56:42] 	waht is that? waht ypu mean?
[13:57:05] 	!farm | Wuzur
[13:57:05] --mwbot--	Wuzur: To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation:  and .
[13:57:34] 	Splarka: ??!!
[13:57:37] 	Wuzur: you can have wikis using the same user database, which is not the same as wikimedia, but rights are still per-wiki unless you hack it
[13:57:45] 	S-i-A  ...
[13:57:50] 	what do you want?
[13:57:54] 	Splarka: hmm, ok
[13:57:59] 	to apply style to the results of  ?
[13:58:13] 	i thinks u misunderstand my question, ok thank u i solve it self
[13:58:52] 	the code between  and  will edit their style in CSS
[13:58:55] 	Splarka: Do you know in which file this the groups and rights are build together?
[13:59:13] 	S-i-A: yes, that is hard-ish coded in the extension
[13:59:34] 	but the C in CSS stands for CASCADING
[13:59:47] 	Splarka: no that is not correct
[13:59:50] 	and Geshi provides an access point for you to customize it easily, and that is  [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]]
[13:59:54] 	Splarka: i wonder if he wants to embed additional CSS in a page
[14:00:04] 	Splarka: (as if in monobook.css)
[14:00:06] 	hi i want insert the code of slide.com how  i doing?
[14:00:07] 	the tag is .source in mail.css or rtl.css
[14:00:16] 	and worked so fine
[14:00:26] 	.source is a class
[14:00:28] 	not a tag
[14:00:39] 	srry
[14:00:42] 	 is a parser tag
[14:00:47] 	and is used by syntax hilighting
[14:00:49] 	and... rtl.css? wtf?
[14:00:57] 	and you fucking asked that in the same sentence you mentioned geshi in
[14:01:00] 	yes the class in  css is .source and so worked fine
[14:01:06] 	S-i-A: you should never edit the css files
[14:01:13] 	*sigh*
[14:01:14] 	noobs
[14:01:14] 	S-i-A: it will make upgrading difficult, as your changes will be overwritten
[14:01:29] 	S-i-A: you're meant to edit [[MediaWiki:Geishi.css]]
[14:01:31] 	Duesentrieb: never gone right of the border? heh
[14:01:33] 	yksinaisyyteni: i change it because wiki is Open
[14:01:39] 	"open"?
[14:01:53] 	yes
[14:01:58] 	which means what?
[14:02:03] 	*sigh*
[14:02:16] 	i change the style. if i will everytime
[14:02:34] 	to edit CSS, you should edit pages in the MediaWiki: namespace, such as [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]]
[14:02:42] 	never edit the .css files that come with the wiki
[14:03:04] 	yksinaisyyteni: what u mean with [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]] ??
[14:03:06] 	alert('boo');
[14:03:11] 	S-i-A: that is the name of a page in your wiki
[14:03:18] 	S-i-A: visit that page and edit it
[14:03:23] 	S-i-A: add the CSS you want to that page, and save it
[14:03:23] 	creates
[14:03:24] 	
alert('boo');

[14:03:30] 	to change that
[14:03:33] 	i said above i will not edit them for ONE article, will change it for ALLLLLL
[14:03:35] 	you go to [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]]
[14:03:41] 	S-i-A: this WILL change them for ALL articles
[14:03:49] 	.source-javascript {background-color: #ffccff;}
[14:03:51] 	for example
[14:03:53] 	S-i-A: [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]] is applied to every page that uses a  tag
[14:04:12] 	Splarka: and that is the solution?
[14:04:26] 	do you want to style  generated 
 tags?
[14:04:37] 	on all pages on your wiki?
[14:05:00] 	who must i type [[MediaWiki:Geshi.css]] ?
[14:05:12] 	that is the title of a page
[14:05:15] 	S-i-A: MediaWiki:Geshi.css is a *page* in your wiki
[14:05:20] 	S-i-A: visit it like any other page
[14:05:23] 	S-i-A: then create it like any other page
[14:05:27] 	go to index.php?title=MediaWiki:Geshi.css&action=edit
[14:09:02] 	ok  i add this line it
[14:09:36] 	http://paste.debian.net/22372/plain/22372
[14:09:43] 	but no change in css
[14:10:52] 	the result is same and no change in source 
[14:12:48] 	purge cache
[14:13:00] 	ok
[14:13:02] 	arr
[14:13:13] 	and you're defining a tag called . there isn't one in the rendered output
[14:13:33] 	go to a page with  on it, view the page source, look for 
[14:13:37] 	look for the classes it has
[14:14:12] 	purge cache no result to
[14:14:15] 	is same
[14:14:19] 	...
[14:14:24] 	yes, check the page source, find out what you need to style
[14:14:32] 	it depends on your version and configuration
[14:14:38] 	and what lang=""
[14:15:16] 	
[14:15:29] 	that becomes in CSS definitions:
[14:15:32] 	pre.source-javascript { }
[14:15:34] 	Splarka: aha
[14:15:44] 	mus i create for every format w
[14:15:51] 	it depends
[14:15:58] 	for some people/versions they all have .source
[14:15:59] 	one css 
[14:16:17] 	Splarka: .source not worked
[14:16:55] 	i must create css line so .python.source-python, .php.source-php ...etc
[14:17:10] 	that doesn't look right
[14:17:13] 	paste a 
	and that dummy :)
[14:17:36] 	(just one line)
[14:17:56] 	http://paste.debian.net/22373/plain/22373
[14:18:02] 	that is my Geshi.css
[14:18:06] 	and not worked
[14:18:06] 	ni
[14:18:09] 	N...
[14:18:16] 	paste a 
	go to a page using , the regular view.. (not edit)... 
[14:18:46] 	'view page source' or 'view document source' or ctrl+u or view-source:
[14:18:52] 	find 
	like this: 
[14:19:35] 	http://paste.debian.net/22374/plain/22374
[14:19:49] 	ok i founde it, then?
[14:20:51] 	C:\PROGRAM FILES\SALFORD SOFTWARE\FTN95\WORK\LAB3.CPP(25) : comment 654 - The constant 3.1415926 is very close to the constant PI.
[14:20:57] 	:p
[14:22:04] 	ew
[14:22:16] 	
  1. [14:22:26] 	sigh, you have strickt mode on
[14:22:32] 	ok, what you want is...
[14:22:39] 	AaronSchulz: hmm, FTN95 suggests you're writing FORTRAN95, but .CPP suggests it's C++.  how inconsistent
[14:22:58] 	S-i-A: .source-html4strict is the object you want to class I guess
[14:23:43] *Splarka 	wonders why it is a div/div/ol/li/ wrapping pre/span pre/span
[14:23:56] 	Splarka: i said above u missundestand my auestion. and that not solution
[14:23:59] 	thanks
[14:24:04] 	...
[14:24:07] 	thnak u all 
[14:24:08] 	wtf are you talking about
[14:24:12] 	you want to style the source output
[14:24:13] 	that is how
[14:24:19] 	that is not soulution
[14:24:29] 	Geshi support XXXXformat
[14:24:49] 	if you want to support new formats you must create them yourself or get updated geshi
[14:25:04] 	(when it supports them)
[14:25:25] 	Splarka: if type for all FORMAT new css line that more than dummy
[14:25:36] 	i solve it with , in css
[14:25:49] 	whatever
[14:25:59] 	not whatever
[14:26:13] 	waht u say isn't solution
[14:26:44] 	i said above, i will have same style for alle code between  and 
[14:27:11] 	not .sourcehtm4strict then .sourcephp.....etc
[14:27:21] 	one style for all
[14:35:26] 	so just style pre
[14:36:56] 	hey m8
[14:36:59] 	s
[14:37:52] 	can someone help me plz 
[14:38:22] 	im writing an extension how can i get a article id from the name 
[14:39:12] 	Duesentrieb: style PRE dont do any action on SOURCE. isn't same 
[14:39:45] 	S-i-A: look at the generated html.  is a virtual tag. in html, it's 
    -.
[14:40:07] 	enjoy_and_relax: create a title object
[14:40:21] 	enjoy_and_relax: Title:fromName or something like that
[14:40:24] 	Duesentrieb: i see that but dont worked
[14:40:47] 	S-i-A: well, if it doesn't work, find out why your css doesn't do what you want it to do.
[14:40:54] 	you have an html element, and you have css.
[14:40:57] 	you have to make it apply.
[14:41:09] 	it's purela an html/css issue
[14:41:17] 	use !important if you have to. whatever.
[14:41:22] 	Duesentrieb: worked fine with PRE but not with source
[14:41:48] 	there is no  tag in the html. if it works in one place and not the other, find out what the difference is.
[14:41:51] 	firebug generally helps.
[14:43:12] 	duesentrieb :i need to get the id of the text i receive to put in sql 
[14:43:21] 	if i do that i only get the text
[14:43:33] 	enjoy_and_relax: err, what?
[14:44:01] 	$wgOut->addHTML("Texto do Artigo Selecionado:" );
[14:44:02] 		$article = new Article( Title::newFromText( $this->target ) );
[14:44:02] 		$article->view();
[14:44:02] 	now i need to get the id from the name of the text 
[14:44:05] 	enjoy_and_relax: i told you how to generate a title object. tht title object can give you the page id, among other things. getId or getPageId or whatever
[14:44:22] 	ok tnkx m8 im a bit noob 
[14:44:23] 	:)
[14:44:38] 	$article->getId() may even do it. or $article->title->getId()
[14:45:09] 	Duesentrieb: !important worked fine but wiht html4strict code not.
[14:45:55] 	S-i-A: html4strict code? why would that matter for css? also, mediawiki outputs xhtml 1.0 transitional, not html 4 strict. 
[14:46:16] 	I'm using api.php to login and then do some work, after I successfully login I get back some user data including a lgtoken, how do I use that token to stay authenticated
[14:46:33] 	hi i want insert the code of slide.com how  i doing?
[14:46:46] 	Duesentrieb: i mean .. 
[14:47:06] 	it should work no matter what language you highlight
[14:47:34] 	nm found the docs
[14:48:00] 	Duesentrieb: and that is my question why :)
[14:48:19] 	S-i-A: ask a css expert.
[14:48:31] 	hmm, thanks
[14:54:04] 	how can i and from where i can get and run mediawiki sqlite ?
[14:55:46] 	thanks all Splarka Duesentrieb yksinaisyyteni . have nice time
[14:55:49] 	bye
[14:57:56] 	hi everybody!
[14:58:07] 	can i close access for only registered users and stop registering new users?
[14:59:03] 	yes uzbek 
[14:59:10] 	so that only registered users can read 
[14:59:13] 	how?
[14:59:46] 	thanx Extend 
[15:00:23] 	anybody tried Checkuser extension fi to sqlite?
[15:00:33] 	http://pastebin.com/m5cf7c66a
[15:01:39] 	thanx Extend 
[15:02:41] 	what about limiting access only to registered users?
[15:02:41] 	welcome uzbek 
[15:17:32] 	hi i want insert the code embend flash of slide.com how  i doing?
[15:18:39] 	!flash
[15:18:39] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "flash".
[15:18:42] 	oh...
[15:18:44] 	;)
[15:19:00] 	there are several extensions for embedding different kinds of movides...
[15:19:01] 	hm...
[15:19:03] 	!video
[15:19:03] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "video".
[15:19:13] 	the bot is disappointing me today
[15:19:33] 	im leaving thanks for the help everybody m8s :)
[15:19:36] 	where can i find Uzbek mediawiki?
[15:19:49] 	wikitesti: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Video_player_extensions
[15:19:58] 	yes 
[15:20:04] 	uzbek: mediawiki brings all languages per default.
[15:20:12] 	a see the extension in flash
[15:20:18] 	uzbek: just tell it what to use in the installer. the installer is english only, i'm afraid.
[15:20:24] 	but i don't have file swf
[15:21:02] 	the code not are sample
[15:21:04] 	wikitesti: these extensions use different aproaches for different things... i'm quite sure there's something that will work for you.
[15:21:04] 	Duesentrieb, i've installed English mediawiki, but now i want to change language. But i don't know how to do it :(
[15:21:07] 	if all else fails...
[15:21:08] 	!html
[15:21:08] --mwbot--	For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include ,  and .
[15:21:31] 	uzbek: you should have changed the language during install. changing it later can be a bit confusing.
[15:21:53] 	@search is your friend :)
[15:21:53] --mwbot--	Results: []
[15:21:54] 	uzbek: just set $wgLanguageCode  to the right code in your localsettings.
[15:21:56] 	er... bah >_<
[15:22:07] 	Duesentrieb, thanx1
[15:22:07] 	didn't mean to actually trigger it :P
[15:22:14] 	@search flash
[15:22:14] --mwbot--	Results: []
[15:22:29] *Duesentrieb 	whacks Skizzerz with an empty search result
[15:22:34] 	:'(
[15:24:33] <|X|>	@search troutDuesentrieb
[15:24:33] --mwbot--	Results: []
[15:25:16] <|X|>	Whoops...I meant...
[15:25:25] <|X|>	@search troutSkizzerz
[15:25:25] --mwbot--	Results: []
[15:26:26] 	|X|: in russian wikipedia, trout slaps you.
[15:26:41] 	03(mod) Resizing of Some GIFs Rendering Poorly; Setting Needs Changing? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13252  +comment (10erwin)
[15:27:23] *|X| 	trouts |X| 
[15:30:46] 	Hi all
[15:31:00] 	Some of our users are having problems logging in with non-English languages
[15:31:17] 	Fatal error: Unsupported operand types in /...languages/classes/LanguageFr.php on line 28
[15:31:45] 	That line is ) + $wgNamespaceNamesEn;
[15:32:12] 	It's basically an array of French terms being added to what I guess is an array of English ones
[15:32:24] 	Any idea what the problem could be? Google didn't turn up much, if anything
[15:32:42] 	+ is for addition and nothing else
[15:32:51] 	So you can't add two arrays?
[15:32:54] 	if they're two arrays, that should be using array_merge
[15:33:09] 	Perhaps this was allowed in PHP4?
[15:33:15] 	don't think so
[15:33:24] 	Hmm, well it's Mediawiki code...
[15:33:30] 	and it is the same in all language files
[15:33:39] 	then idrk
[15:34:09] 	I'm going to switch it to array_merge and see what happens
[15:34:55] 	I'm not seeing that line in /languages/classes/LanguageFr.php
[15:35:11] 	03(mod) PNG transparency fixes for IE users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2074  +comment (10erwin)
[15:35:12] 	Hmm
[15:35:19] *MattJ 	looks for the Mediawiki source online
[15:35:24] 	what version of mw are you running?
[15:35:43] 	Not sure
[15:35:52] 	We made a huge leap at one point
[15:35:56] 	I went for the latest
[15:35:57] 	What does Special:Version report?
[15:36:02] 	But it could be the upgrade went bad
[15:36:08] 	Let me check, hang on
[15:36:26] 	1.13.0
[15:37:00] 	Hmph, I see we need to update
[15:37:45] 	that line is not present in the 1.13 branch either o.O
[15:38:06] 	oooook
[15:38:37] 	Upload the 1.13.2 files (overwriting all of the existing files) and see if that fixes anything
[15:39:03] 	You might have to re-run the update.php mainteance script, I don't know if there were any schema changes (although I don't think there were)
[15:39:10] 	Ok, thanks
[15:39:16] 	I'll let you know how it goes
[15:42:35] 	Ok, I have another site running the same version, I can see it's different
[15:42:44] 	I guess just this one got messed up when upgrading
[15:43:13] 	03mkroetzsch * r43995 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_Time.php: Accept more date formats: ignore surrounding spaces, allow initial 0s in number
[15:44:13] 	trying to construct a cookie from api.php?action=login
[15:44:20] 	as per http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login
[15:44:37] 	but there is no sessionid or cookieprefix fields
[15:45:10] 	I'm able to get and set the other fields, but its not authorizing me without the session info (I manually put in the prefix
[15:45:53] 	any thoughts?
[15:46:28] 	you can't set those two fields in the query. Are you saying they aren't being returned to you?
[15:48:40] 	yup
[15:50:40] 	the docs say they should be returned, but they are not
[15:50:46] 	and you're doing a POST request to the form?
[16:00:37] 	Skizzerz: doing a get
[16:00:46] 	login only works with POST
[18:11:57] 	how to create Contents menu autmatic in articles? == Title == don't make that
[18:12:48] 	S-i-A: __TOC__ ?
[18:13:03] 	ok thanks
[18:14:09] 	Charitwo: no i mean this Content menu [hide] or [display]
[18:16:48] 	Charitwo: her http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:About
[18:20:10] 	yes, that's the table of contents i.e. toc
[18:26:00] 	__TOC__ forces one
[18:26:11] 	otherwise one isnt shown unless you have over a certain number of headings
[18:29:31] 	03(mod) ogg files lost - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5828  +comment (10nospam)
[18:30:38] 	3 headings
[18:30:45] 	over 3*
[18:31:23] 	"the files are still missing"
[18:31:30] 	wow, they didn't magically reappear ;-D
[18:32:43] 	03aaron * r43996 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Add $user to NewRevisionFromEditComplete hook
[18:38:17] 	03aaron * r43997 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: per r43996, reduce User object queries
[18:48:10] 	if some regestred user change any articles in Wiki, can restore the changed without use MySQL or phpmyadmin client, direct from Wiki self?
[18:49:14] 	look at the history?
[18:49:18] 	then undo/rollback?
[18:51:04] 	Reedy: but the history is disabled :)
[18:52:06] 	any another way?
[18:52:37] 	enable, then undo, then disable?
[18:53:26] 	agaran: must i active hostory no another way?
[18:54:26] 	how else are you going to know whats changed?
[18:55:24] 	Reedy: bu i disabled just for user not for sysop!!
[18:55:38] 	$wgDisabledActions['*'] = 'history';
[18:56:00] 	03aaron * r43998 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Article.php RecentChange.php): Reduce excessive RC write queries
[18:59:13] 	can i not disable History for user or visitor?
[19:03:39] 	just an observation... if I'm wrong please let me know.. but that line looks like it may be:
[19:04:09] 	$wgDisabledActions[''] = '';
[19:04:33] 	the * has always IIRC a wildcard
[19:07:00] 	Isakill: no disbaled for all
[19:27:43] 	03(NEW) {{FILEPATH: {{PAGENAME}} }} not works for files with non-ASCII characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16474 major; normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (phoenixct)
[19:34:14] 	Can anyone tell me how I can give sysop privs to a user ?
[19:34:20] 	whats the url i need to go to as admin?
[19:34:32] 	Special:Userrights
[19:34:39] 	you need to be bureaucrat
[19:36:54] 	perfect ;)
[19:37:06] 	also, is there any way to protect a page?
[19:37:21] 	from "general" users not being able to edit unless they are in one of these groups?
[19:37:22] 	there should be a protect tab above each page
[19:37:52] 	clicking on that tab will give you the ability to choose from various levels of protection
[19:38:05] 	ahh perfect!
[19:42:47] 	03jhsoby * r43999 10/trunk/tools/planet/de/templates/index.nb.html.tmpl: This is a test, to see if it is possible to have several interface languages for one Planet; will delete again shortly.
[19:52:37] 	Jhs: you know that you can have all your commits at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/author/jhsoby :)
[19:53:23] 	is there a live time and date calculator for the mediawiki?
[19:53:31] 	ialex, didn't know that, no. but i like it this way :D
[19:56:09] 	ialex, you wouldn't have any idea how long it takes for changes to planets go live? (e.g. how long i have to wait to see if my test is successful or a total failure.)
[19:56:47] 	Jhs: absolutely no idea :)
[19:56:56] 	okay :)
[19:57:04] 	Jhs: I have once an hour in my mind... but not sure
[19:57:22] 	automatically? O_o
[19:57:35] 	Raymond__, ok. i'll check in a couple of hours then, and if nothing happens, i'll see it as a failure...
[19:57:40] 	afaik yes. some cron job
[20:00:20] 	we're planning on setting up a Nordic languages wikimedia planet, but need a way to have several interface languages
[20:04:05] 	04(REOPENED) Rename the "Image" namespace to "File" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44  +comment (10nospam)
[20:11:51] 	03vyznev * r44000 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Title.php): 
[20:11:51] 	(bug 6100) Strip Unicode BiDi embedding/override characters (U+202A - U+202E) from titles.
[20:11:51] 	NOTE: run maintenance/cleanupImages.php and cleanupTitles.php ASAP after deploying this!
[20:17:57] 	whats the SVN co url again?
[20:18:02] 	for 1.14?
[20:18:29] 	i think head from svn but enoidea where, i mean trunk==head
[20:21:53] 	too bad vyznev didn't fix bug 44 with r44000
[20:27:18] 	03vyznev * r44001 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Setup.php languages/messages/MessagesEn.php): (bug 44) make 'Image' and 'Image_talk' compatibility aliases work for all languages, not just English
[20:31:36] 	Nikerabbit, r44001 mfixed it
[20:33:15] 	gewt: but that's not so cool :)
[20:34:03] 	so, when is the changes from bug 44 going live on wikimedia?
[20:34:26] 	NOW!
[20:34:37] 	O RLY?
[20:35:19] 	i've no idea
[20:35:32] 	:P
[20:36:59] 	it took 20 minutes to import a 6MB page :|
[20:41:58] 	03ialex * r44002 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/specials/ (SD_BrowseData.php SD_CreateFilter.php SD_Filters.php): Fix some E_STRICT
[21:07:36] 	03(FIXED) Rename the "Image" namespace to "File" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44  +comment (10nospam)
[21:22:35] 	03vyznev * r44003 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.inc: (bug 15892) kluge: disable use of temporary tables for parserTests until someone can figure out a way to make them work again
[21:25:50] 	03(mod) Parser tests broken by r40209 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15892  +comment (10nospam)
[21:43:31] 	03(NEW) Usability/layout issues with the OggPlayer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16475 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: OggHandler; (Wiki.Melancholie)
[21:46:55] 	03(mod) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  (10cyp)
[21:46:57] 	03(mod) Usability/layout issues with the OggPlayer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16475  (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[22:00:54] 	is there a live time and date calculator for the mediawiki?
[22:00:58] 	ah crap
[22:06:16] 	03(mod) New extension to enforce minimum password strength. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16435  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[22:24:04] 	03(mod)  Timeline images either generated without text or even not at all. Sometimes also no map areas as well. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16085  (10N/A)
[22:37:06] 	03vyznev * r44004 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Defines.php includes/Export.php): (log message trimmed)
[22:37:06] 	First step in replacing NS_IMAGE with NS_FILE, to match the canonical name change (bug 44).
[22:37:06] 	This step simply defines the new constants NS_FILE and NS_FILE_TALK, retaining
[22:37:06] 	NS_IMAGE and NS_IMAGE_TALK as aliases, and makes them usable for export (which
[22:37:07] 	seems to be the only part of core that uses the NS_* names as strings).
[22:37:09] 	The second step should be a global search-and-replace across core (other than Defines.php and Export.php). I've already tried this locally, and there seem to be no problems. This step should not touch extensions.
[22:37:12] 	The third, optional step would be updating at least some extensions to use the new constant names as well. This would generally require prepending the following compatibility snippet to the main extension file:
[22:37:55] 	wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[22:38:43] 	now let's see if it sticks :)
[22:40:22] 	03(mod) Rename the "Image" namespace to "File" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44  (10nospam)
[22:47:01] 	03siebrand * r44005 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (27 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-11-27 23:40 CET)
[22:52:56] 	Vyznev: I should be able to safely replace {{ns:image}} with {{ns:file}} in the UI messages now, shouldn't I?
[22:56:02] 	only if you want every bug owner chasing you with pitchforks
[22:58:08] 	p858snake|sleep: excuse me?
[22:58:23] 	oh you mean on a private wiki install?
[22:58:34] 	siebrand: yes
[22:59:03] 	Vyznev: thanks. -> done
[22:59:35] 	03siebrand * r44006 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (122 files): Replace "{{ns:image}}" with "{{ns:file}}" for core messages
[23:00:37] 	03siebrand * r44007 10/trunk/extensions/ (114 files in 86 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-11-27 23:40 CET)
[23:34:09] 	03siebrand * r44008 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Replace "Image:" with "File:"
[23:48:45] 	hello to force a edit of page when it says "You tried to edit a section that does not exist. Since there is no section , there is no place to save your edit. " what is the syntax you place at the end of the url...? something like edit=0 ?
[23:49:12] 	I'm trying to edit this category page: http://asianmediawiki.com/Category:Action_films and it gives me that error
[23:55:06] 	section=new
[23:58:26] 	thanks werdnum!