[00:00:08] <RickP>	hello - would someone point me to information on how onloadFuncts works or at least where it gets processed in code? thanks
[00:05:25] <RickP>	let me re-state that...
[00:05:41] <RickP>	trying to understand how table collapse works...
[00:05:42] <RickP>	ButtonLink.setAttribute( "href", "javascript:collapseTable(" + tableIndex + ");" );
[00:06:56] <RickP>	where is the code for collapsetable pulled in by the browswer?
[00:10:16] <werdnum>	in Wikipedia?
[00:10:23] <werdnum>	it's in MediaWiki:Common.js
[00:12:24] <RickP>	for my installation...yes, i am reading the javascript...it is pretty straight forward...what i can't seem to figure out...
[00:12:43] <RickP>	is where the collapsetable function is pulled into the browswer
[00:13:16] <RickP>	addOnloadHook( createCollapseButtons );
[00:13:23] <RickP>	to set things up
[00:20:08] <Peregrine>	Is there a way to get the innermost includer via a parser function or something? i.e. Page includes Tpl1 which includes Tpl2. In Tpl2, I want to be able to get the name "Tpl1". {{PAGENAME}} will get me "Page".
[00:21:36] <master_>	FunnyMan3595: This problem actually started when someone unplugged the power to the backend mysql database/nfs file share (that held the images)..
[00:21:58] <FunnyMan3595>	master_: Hmm, yeah, that could cause problems.
[00:22:37] <master_>	FunnyMan3595: The images directory was nfs mounted, but the directory it was mounted on had an earlier version of the mediawiki images in it.. so when nfs got unmounted, I didn't realize it.. So people started uploading images to the out-of-date images folder..
[00:23:22] <FunnyMan3595>	master_: Sounds messy.  Anyway, I'm going to bow out of the chatroom, busy working on something IAW.
[00:23:34] <master_>	FunnyMan3595: finally, I realized this and re-mounted the proper folder...  but... had to copy over all the images that had been uploaded in the mean-time... those ones weren't seen by mediawiki.. the errors I have been talking about
[00:23:44] <master_>	FunnyMan3595: ok.. thanks for you help!
[00:23:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG handler uses an "uber-crappy hack" instead of a real XML parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14268  (10brion)
[00:24:05] <mib_dxh5yue1>	Has anyone seen this exploit before? I think it may be related to Brutus : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
[00:24:06] <FunnyMan3595>	master_: Good luck.  Hope nobody unplugs your server again.  :)
[00:26:22] <CIA-8>	03brion * r44322 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/ImageFunctions.php): 
[00:26:22] <CIA-8>	* (bug 14268) SVG image sizes now extracted with proper XML parser
[00:26:22] <CIA-8>	Uses a filter with XmlTypeCheck. Yay!
[00:26:22] <CIA-8>	Now works with UTF-16 sample file uploaded on the bug. Should work with large comments etc as well.
[00:27:10] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) SVG handler uses an "uber-crappy hack" instead of a real XML parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14268  +comment (10brion)
[00:28:03] <mib_dxh5yue1>	Has anyone seen this exploit before? I think it may be related to Brutus : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
[00:36:09] <werdnum>	mib_dxh5yue1: that's a rickrol
[00:36:12] <werdnum>	I know the URL off by heart.
[00:37:00] <Mike_lifeguard>	What is the point of that meme anyways?
[00:37:14] <Mike_lifeguard>	Even if someone clicks it, you'll probably never know.
[00:37:36] <Mike_lifeguard>	Do these morons just sit around imagining that they got another person to click it?
[00:37:50] <werdnum>	There are better ways to rickroll.
[00:37:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) list=allusers off-by-one error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16594 major; normal; MediaWiki: API; (EN.WP.ST47)
[00:37:54] <werdnum>	Like in-person rickrolling.
[00:38:08] <werdnum>	(Showing up in the Rick Astley coat and singing the song)
[00:45:14] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Add domain aliases, or redirects, for ISO 639-2/ 3 language codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14010  +comment (10brion)
[00:47:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Update to cite.php refs: ids fixed, footnotes, globbed links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16294  (10ncw33)
[00:49:41] <Mathieu1>	howdy!
[00:50:14] <Mike_lifeguard>	Hi
[00:50:15] <werdnum>	hi
[00:50:39] <Mathieu1>	quick question: how can I know which email address a user used to register? Can't find this information in the mysql database :(
[00:51:01] <werdnum>	yes you can
[00:51:13] <werdnum>	SELECT user_email FROM user where user_name='username';
[00:51:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Update to cite.php refs: ids fixed, footnotes, globbed links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16294  (10brion)
[00:52:53] <Mathieu1>	Hi werdnum! it's says :[BLOB - 24 B]
[00:53:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) oldwikisource import from meta and commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13377  +comment (10brion)
[00:54:26] <Mathieu1>	werdnum: for all email addresses.. can't see anyone's email address :(
[00:55:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add log comment field when importing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12728  (10brion)
[01:03:11] <Mathieu1>	nevermind.. just figured how
[01:08:53] <RickP>	in case anyone wants to know...regarding my prior question...common.js is pulled in here: w/index.php5?title=-&action=raw&gen=js&useskin=monobook
[01:09:05] <RickP>	took me too long to figure that :(
[01:18:34] <sprax_>	how can I get two right aligned tables to appear below one another instead of beside?
[01:20:22] <qsheets>	"<br />"?
[01:21:34] <sprax_>	qsheets I was using <BR> but it only pushed the one down one line, not all the way
[01:21:48] <sprax_>	so if the first "top" table has six rows, I need six <BR>
[01:22:08] <CIA-8>	03tparscal * r44323 10/trunk/phase3/skins/MonoBook.php: Fixed empty list of footer links when no footer messages are set.
[01:22:55] <sprax_>	if you look on [[WP:Sandbox]] you'll see what I mean
[01:23:11] <sprax_>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&oldid=256741745
[01:23:19] <sprax_>	(in case it gets replaced with profanity)
[01:27:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Fatal Flagged revs error causes 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16589  (10paul.copperman)
[01:28:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Fatal Flagged revs error causes 500 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16589  (10paul.copperman)
[01:30:13] <CIA-8>	03pinky * r44324 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.ext.php: Fixing a spelling error in Configure (in a comment)
[01:42:26] <CIA-8>	03tomasz * r44325 10/trunk/extensions/skins/Tomas/images/scales-blue.png: adding scales image
[01:46:59] <qsheets>	sprax_: on the second table use style="clear:right"
[01:48:10] <RickP>	you can also put a <div style="float: right"> around both tables
[01:53:12] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Invalid HTML if both "about" and "disclaimer" are "-" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16590  +comment (10brion)
[01:58:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow extensions to be installed, and other $wg... configuration changes to be made, without manually modifying LocalSettings .php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16595 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (nathanlarson3141)
[01:58:35] <sprax_>	RickP and qsheets thanks for the tips!
[01:58:39] <sprax_>	I'm going to try the div
[01:58:46] <sprax_>	its around each one or both?
[02:03:04] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Remove merged extensions from Wikimedia configuration files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16114  +comment (10brion)
[02:03:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow extensions to be installed, and other $wg... configuration changes to be made, without manually modifying LocalSettings .php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16595  (10brion)
[02:04:25] <RickP>	one around both
[02:04:54] <sprax_>	the tables are being generated a custom parser hook
[02:05:03] <sprax_>	some pages need one or the other and some need both
[02:05:08] <sprax_>	I would like them to be "self contained"
[02:05:22] <sprax_>	if I put a style="float: right;" into the table
[02:05:30] <sprax_>	whoah
[02:05:36] <sprax_>	I put <div> around each
[02:05:53] <RickP>	one around each won't work
[02:05:54] <sprax_>	the section header bar didn't wrap around
[02:06:09] <sprax_>	if I put float: right; in each table
[02:06:16] <sprax_>	is that the same as <div> around each?
[02:06:26] <qsheets>	clea:right works
[02:06:33] <qsheets>	* clear:right
[02:06:42] <sprax_>	qsheets in the div or the table>
[02:06:46] <qsheets>	table
[02:06:47] <sprax_>	s/>/?/g
[02:06:49] <sprax_>	thanks
[02:07:02] <qsheets>	np
[02:08:34] <sprax_>	qsheets: <table style="clear: right;">
[02:08:35] <sprax_>	?
[02:10:02] <qsheets>	yup
[02:10:29] <qsheets>	or {| style="clear:right;"
[02:10:48] <sprax_>	hmmm
[02:10:52] <sprax_>	didn't seem to take...
[02:10:58] <sprax_>	is the space bad?
[02:11:01] <sprax_>	I'm totally CSS ignorant
[02:11:09] <sprax_>	ah, ok, this worked
[02:11:13] <qsheets>	kk
[02:11:17] <sprax_>	<table style="clear: right;">
[02:11:19] <sprax_>	erm
[02:11:46] <sprax_>	<table style="float: right; clear: right;">
[02:12:25] <qsheets>	or align="right" style="clear: right"
[02:13:33] <sprax_>	qsheets perfect
[02:13:37] <sprax_>	RickP thanks to you too
[02:14:00] <qsheets>	sprax_: "clear: right" just states that there can be nothing to the right of it
[02:14:06] <qsheets>	np
[02:14:06] <RickP>	that looks good..thanks for the tip
[02:15:05] <sprax_>	and float: right tells it that content should continue on the left
[02:15:13] <sprax_>	same as align=right
[02:16:05] <sprax_>	now I just have to figure out which one of my parser hooks is killing my wiki
[02:16:07] <RickP>	correct usage is: style="float:right; clear:right;" ??
[02:16:20] <sprax_>	RickP it worked for me, but I'm far from correct
[02:16:42] <RickP>	yes, that worked...just want to make sure that is the correct usage
[02:16:55] <RickP>	i like that better than div
[02:17:39] <qsheets>	RickP: everyone likes less html elements
[02:18:57] <qsheets>	;)
[02:25:06] <charlie->	hey, we're getting some weirdness on our wiki when viewing an old revision:
[02:25:07] <charlie->	http://meta.yourwiki.net/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=2874
[02:25:27] <charlie->	for some reason, its just outputting HTML, maybe someone changed an addHTML to addWikiText by accident?
[02:26:29] <RickP>	looks ok to me
[02:27:04] <RickP>	grid with four areas..pink, greeen and blue
[02:27:10] <RickP>	menu bar
[02:27:32] <charlie->	look under the site notice, the grey text
[02:29:05] <RickP>	oh...that...
[02:32:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow namespace-specific copyright notices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16596 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (nathanlarson3141)
[02:35:53] <AaronSchulz>	charlie-: svn uo
[02:35:56] <AaronSchulz>	*up
[02:36:04] <charlie->	AaronSchulz, oh okay
[02:37:37] <charlie->	thanks, works
[02:44:25] <RickP>	@charlie...how did you just fix that?
[02:44:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) list=allusers off-by-one error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16594  +comment (10nakonwiki)
[02:45:38] <gbruin>	hey all
[02:46:25] <nakon>	hiya
[02:46:40] <charlie->	RickP, I updated to the latest SVN version
[02:56:02] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44326 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Setup.php: Tweak check order to be slightly better
[02:59:09] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44327 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Make overrideRedirect() faster still
[03:02:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) wgSpamRegex addition request: anontalk.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16597 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (mikelifeguard)
[03:17:22] <_ShadowBelmolve>	Hello, how i create a subcategory?
[03:17:50] <jiffe88>	alright, I seem to be doing something wrong with permissions.  I'm using 1.13.2 and I've set $wgGroupPermissions['*'] = false; but I am still able to edit a page without being logged in
[03:18:03] <Charitwo>	_ShadowBelmolve: by putting another category inside it
[03:18:13] <jiffe88>	['*']['edit'] = false, sorry
[03:18:21] <_ShadowBelmolve>	chalcedony, ok, i will try
[03:25:15] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44328 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Wiki.php: 
[03:25:15] <CIA-8>	* Performance tweaks
[03:25:15] <CIA-8>	* Whitespace
[03:46:37] <jiffe20>	I got it, it was apparently still logged in, I thought I had cleared cookies but apparently I didn't
[04:16:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwikies sort in phonetic, site defined order (w/ patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2867  (10zigger)
[04:17:50] <yksinaisyyteni>	where did the DOM inspector go in FF3?
[04:18:52] <Dantman>	firebug?
[04:19:27] <yksinaisyyteni>	are you talking to me?
[04:36:32] <charlie->	How do I do a multiline <pre> inside of an ordered list?
[04:36:36] <charlie->	#:<pre>something
[04:36:39] <charlie->	something</pre>
[04:36:41] <charlie->	is not working
[04:41:00] <gbruin>	how about #:<code>something<br>
[04:41:03] <gbruin>	something</code>
[04:46:48] <Dantman>	Use a html list
[04:47:37] <p858snake>	charlie-: do you need to use pre, what a trying to do that nowiki can't do?
[04:49:30] <charlie->	gbruin, that works, thanks
[04:49:52] <gbruin>	no prob
[04:52:39] <RickP>	any idea why a <span> breaks a template (by break, does not work) : {{Test |Param1 | <span id="xyz">Param2</span>}}
[04:54:02] <RickP>	i just need to assign an id to the 2nd param
[05:03:54] <p858snake>	manually add it to the 2nd param in the template coding if its always the same?
[05:21:55] <alex_21>	Hi, all. What do the JS do in the head section of the html inside MonoBook.php?
[05:22:19] <jiffe20>	is there a way to display the current branch path so I can go back to any point along it?
[05:30:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Internationalization of dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11410  (10mail)
[05:31:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgRestrictDisplayTitle to False on Chinese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16427  (10skjackey.tse)
[05:46:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wgSpamRegex addition request: anontalk.com - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16597  (10sco_scam)
[06:05:52] <RickP>	@alex_21 the js in the head of monobook provide a range of functions...collapsible tables, for example
[06:12:35] <alex_21>	Oh, so if I get rid of them, the tables won't collaps?
[06:14:08] <MZMcBride>	Got a link?
[06:14:31] <alex_21>	Link for what?
[06:14:38] <MZMcBride>	To your site?
[06:15:29] <alex_21>	Yes, http://www.vipbc.org/wiki/index.cgi
[06:15:43] <MZMcBride>	Invalid link.
[06:15:55] <MZMcBride>	php
[06:16:22] <alex_21>	Yes, http://www.vipbc.org/wiki/index.php, sorry, I use a lot of CGI, so I am used to writing that
[06:16:30] <MZMcBride>	Which table are you having trouble with?
[06:17:03] <alex_21>	None, I just want to know what would happen if I got rid of the scripts in the head section of MonoBook.php
[06:17:39] <MZMcBride>	Not much, because you're not really using Monobook anymore.
[06:17:50] <MZMcBride>	Though you can always remove, test, and then re-add if necessary.
[06:17:51] <alex_21>	And I want to arange all these elements into a table in html, like the navbar and the editing options etc
[06:18:33] <alex_21>	What do you mean I'm not using MonoBook anymore. I edited MonoBook.php
[06:19:05] <MZMcBride>	Ahh, you didn't create your own skin?
[06:19:47] <alex_21>	No, I did not
[06:20:01] <alex_21>	I backed up MonoBook and then played with it
[06:22:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Rollback buttons in Special:Recentchanges and Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9305  (10nakonwiki)
[06:22:50] <nakon>	whee, finally got around to making that
[06:23:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Rollback buttons in Special:Recentchanges and Special:Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9305   +patch; +comment (10nakonwiki)
[06:34:41] <alex_21>	Abpit what line is </body>? I don't wnat my terminal to keep crashing, so a line number is helpful
[06:35:19] <alex_21>	Abpit what line is </body>? I don't want my terminal to keep crashing, so a line number is helpful
[06:35:34] <alex_21>	Wghat what line is </body>? I don't want my terminal to keep crashing, so a line number is helpful
[06:35:46] <alex_21>	What line is </body>? I don't want my terminal to keep crashing, so a line number is helpful
[06:35:56] <Charitwo>	stop repeating yourself
[06:37:18] <RickP>	alex_21 have you gone in and looked at the scripts?
[06:37:43] <alex_21>	Which scripts?
[06:38:00] <alex_21>	And I was fixing some spelling, sorry for rewritting
[06:38:35] <RickP>	the js in the header you were asking about
[06:38:45] <RickP>	you can get a pretty good idea of what they do
[06:39:00] <alex_21>	No, I haven't, because I don't know JS, so I just won't touch them.
[06:39:18] <RickP>	plus...that is also the code that runs runOnloadHook
[06:39:26] <alex_21>	I also needed to know what line the </body> tag is on in the MonoBook.php document
[06:39:27] <RickP>	you can just read the function names
[06:39:33] <RickP>	and descriptions...
[06:39:48] <RickP>	i think if you lose runOnloadHook...things will not work right...
[06:39:51] <RickP>	but i am not certain
[06:40:03] <alex_21>	Oh, thanks for that. I'll check it out
[06:40:18] <RickP>	that function pulls in a bunch of stuff dynamically
[06:40:25] <alex_21>	But what about the line number then, my Terminal keeps crashing every time I hit Up Arrow
[06:40:31] <RickP>	i think that is how some extensions work
[06:41:11] <RickP>	you mean like this? js?164
[06:42:41] <alex_21>	No, I need to find the line in the MonoBook.php file that has the </body> tag on it. I found the <body> tag in the html, but the closing tag is nowhere to be seen
[06:42:57] <RickP>	oh
[06:44:30] <RickP>	ln 232
[06:58:24] <alex_21>	Oh, thanks, that saved me a lot of time and my terminal from crashing
[07:00:22] <Splarka>	RickP: {{Test |Param1 | <span id="xyz">Param2</span>}}
[07:00:44] <Splarka>	what you have there is a variable defined as {{{<span id}}} with a value of "xyz">Param2</span>
[07:01:11] <Splarka>	the equals sign is always the delimiter between a variable name and value, except when covered with [[]] and {{}} or another layer of transclusion
[07:02:08] <Splarka>	while it might be a good idea to consider it covered in <> style tags, some people pass parameters like {{foo|style="bar"}} which would still be broken
[07:02:47] <alex_21>	Thanks for your help
[07:02:53] <alex_21>	Good night. Bani bash
[07:03:26] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED)  ffmpeg thumbnailing of Ogg videos barfs on Ogg Skeleton metadata - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16167  +comment (10tstarling)
[07:42:38] <CIA-8>	03siebrand * r44329 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (20 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-12-09 08:38 CET)
[07:56:08] <CIA-8>	03siebrand * r44330 10/trunk/extensions/ (121 files in 111 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-12-09 08:38 CET)
[08:16:24] <CIA-8>	03jojo * r44331 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/collection/collection.js: fix: upped version in js file
[08:26:05] <CIA-8>	03jojo * r44332 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: reverted part of 44175: Http::userAgent() has been added just recently, Collecton extension is supposed to work with MediaWiki >= 1.11
[08:45:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Integration with FCK editor fails in IE (free text field) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15877  (10piglesias)
[09:12:44] <Prom_cat>	Is there a NEXTYEAR magic word?
[09:12:51] <Prom_cat>	Or equilevent
[09:12:57] <Prom_cat>	or easy of achiving that
[09:13:00] <Prom_cat>	way^
[09:13:31] <MZMcBride>	{{#time:Y|+1 year}} 
[09:13:33] <MZMcBride>	Or something.
[09:16:28] <_wooz>	lo
[09:19:13] <gbruin>	there's an easy way if yo uinstall the parserfunctions extensions and the Min template (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Min)
[09:20:03] <gbruin>	then just pop {{min|{{CURRENTYEAR}}+1}} into your article
[09:22:42] <Prom_cat>	{{#time:Y|+1 year}}  worked for me
[09:23:19] *Splarka 	snickerse
[09:23:25] <Splarka>	but {{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{#expr:{{#if:{{{2|}}}|{{#if:{{{3|}}}|{{#ifexpr:({{{1}}})<({{{2}}})|{{#ifexpr:({{{1}}})<({{{3}}})|{{{1}}}|{{{3}}}}}|{{#ifexpr:({{{2}}})<({{{3}}})|{{{2}}}|{{{3}}}}}}}|{{#ifexpr:({{{1}}})<({{{2}}})|{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}}}}}|{{{1}}}}}}}|}} is so much more fun
[09:24:53] <Prom_cat>	Anyone Interested with helping me organise EOTY
[09:27:29] <Prom_cat>	No one, not even MZMcBride?
[09:27:41] <MZMcBride>	No thanks.
[09:31:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwikies sort in phonetic, site defined order (w/ patch) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2867  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[09:31:49] <Prom_cat>	I wonder if any of the people from POTY will help :P
[11:29:04] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44333 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Move out api hook class
[11:41:44] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44334 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Speed up filecache a tad
[11:51:13] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44335 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Wiki.php: Tweak profile calls
[12:37:38] *werdnum 	waves
[12:38:22] <ialex>	hello werdnum
[12:39:00] <werdnum>	brion was too busy to look at Configure today.
[12:39:16] <werdnum>	I think Mondays are a little crazy for him
[12:39:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG client side rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3593  +comment (10martinfisch)
[12:40:23] <ialex>	werdnum: I'm doing a basic interface for $wgAutopromote, will be ready in some days
[12:43:24] <werdnum>	now I feel bad for not doing much work today :P
[12:45:02] <ialex>	:)
[12:53:28] <FollowTheMedia>	Hi there! Do I have to use Bugzilla for a feature request?
[12:54:45] <Reedy>	its easiest
[12:54:52] <Reedy>	then the right people get informed, others can comment, etc etc
[12:55:01] <werdnum>	ialex: what else do you think I should be working on?
[12:55:01] <Reedy>	and it keeps track that someone has suggested it :)
[12:55:18] <FollowTheMedia>	Ok then
[12:55:19] <ialex>	werdnum: JS problems on IE :)
[12:55:59] <Prom_cat>	Is it possible to setup a wiki to use commons as a shared media respository?
[12:56:11] <ialex>	there're errors when you click on search results and strange behaviour when you click on the TOC
[12:56:12] <Reedy>	yup
[12:56:20] <Reedy>	well, should be..
[12:57:48] <ialex>	!wg ForeignFileRepos
[12:57:48] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgForeignFileRepos
[12:58:11] <ialex>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgForeignFileRepos#Using_files_from_Wikimedia_Commons_:_ForeignAPIRepo
[12:58:24] <werdnum>	ialex: ugh, my IE is broken :(
[12:58:37] <ialex>	:(
[12:58:43] <ialex>	Prom_cat: ^
[12:58:46] <werdnum>	is there IE debugging stuff?
[12:58:52] <werdnum>	oh yeah, and there are some more JS bugs
[12:59:02] <werdnum>	from adding TBODYs
[13:03:58] <ialex>	werdnum: there should be something in Internet options -> advanced
[13:04:12] <Reedy>	yeah
[13:04:17] <Reedy>	you can enable/disable script debugging
[13:04:35] <ialex>	but it only shows the line where the error occured
[13:04:41] <ialex>	with a message
[13:05:28] <werdnum>	ew.
[13:05:36] <werdnum>	I mean *real* debugging :)
[13:05:46] <ialex>	xD
[13:05:55] <ialex>	werdnum: good luck :)
[13:06:09] <werdnum>	:P
[13:06:23] <ialex>	dunno if IE doesn't like this.value
[13:06:33] <werdnum>	I don't think it does like this.*
[13:06:48] <werdnum>	you have to do e.this or something (where e = event)
[13:07:41] <Splarka>	are you doing something like onclick="foo(this)" ?
[13:07:59] <werdnum>	something like that.
[13:08:01] <Splarka>	or onclick="foo(event)" ?
[13:08:22] <werdnum>	addHandler( foo, sub() { this.something(); } );
[13:08:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) [Proposal] Bureaucrats's capability to flag a user as an " Importer" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16598 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (casadio)
[13:08:45] <Splarka>	best to check foo(e) { -> if(e.target) {} else if(e.srcElement) {} }
[13:08:51] <Splarka>	(I find, anyway)
[13:09:27] <FollowTheMedia>	That's. I've added my request.
[13:09:29] <Splarka>	foo(e) { var thingy; if(e.target) { thingy = e.target} else if(e.srcElement) { thingy = e.srcElement } }  to clarify
[13:09:49] <FollowTheMedia>	*that's it
[13:11:13] <Splarka>	problem is, that method requires passing a parameter to the onTHING() which addHandler can't do so easily as simply putting it in the html directly
[13:12:53] <Splarka>	how ever... with that method... you can define a <table onclick="">... and then thingy will be whatever object in that whole table you clicked
[13:13:25] <Flamekebab>	For the life of me I can't figure out what I have to do to make my infoboxes float in the top right corner of pages (in a similar style to those for TV shows on Wikipedia)
[13:14:02] <werdnum>	Splarka: so, how do we modify our addHandler( foo, sub() { this.something(); } );
[13:14:07] <werdnum>	to make it actually work in IE?
[13:14:19] <Splarka>	bah, can't you ask easy questions?
[13:15:43] <Flamekebab>	I can't figure out what other wikis do to make the infoboxes stay at the top, mine just end up at the bottom. A little help?
[13:16:29] <werdnum>	Splarka: can it not be done with addHandler?
[13:17:00] <Splarka>	it can, it is just a bitch
[13:17:09] <Splarka>	hang on, digesting
[13:17:48] <Splarka>	okay, the default parameter in a called onTHINGY function is the functioncall(event) except in IE
[13:17:54] <Splarka>	so I think you just need to do something like...
[13:18:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553  (10danny.b)
[13:18:52] <Splarka>	e = e || event
[13:18:53] <Splarka>	hmm
[13:19:00] <werdnum>	ugh, ew.
[13:19:09] <werdnum>	I hate IE so much.
[13:19:34] <Splarka>	where e is the parameter..
[13:19:38] *Splarka 	tests
[13:22:09] <Splarka>	fark you IE
[13:22:51] <Flamekebab>	Can no one help me?
[13:22:54] *Flamekebab 	whimpers
[13:25:53] <Splarka>	okay, werdnum ... this...
[13:26:06] <Splarka>	addHandler(document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0],'click',flibble);
[13:26:09] <Splarka>	function flibble(e) {
[13:26:10] <Splarka>	  e = e.target || e.srcElement
[13:26:15] <Splarka>	that _should_ work in IE
[13:26:30] <Splarka>	to be safe you might do...
[13:26:33] <Splarka>	  e = e || e.target || e.srcElement
[13:27:02] <Splarka>	I don't know if you can do it as an inline function though
[13:27:03] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: Err, e = e ???
[13:27:45] <Splarka>	oop, right, that would just get the event
[13:27:53] <Splarka>	skip that bit, you want e = e.target || e.srcElement
[13:28:07] <Splarka>	and then probably an if(!e) return;
[13:28:22] <Splarka>	hmm, does work inline
[13:28:35] <Splarka>	  addHandler(document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0],'click',function(e) {
[13:28:35] <Splarka>	    e = e.target || e.srcElement
[13:28:35] <Splarka>	  });
[13:28:40] <Splarka>	at least in zilla
[13:28:52] <werdnum>	zilla!
[13:28:56] <werdnum>	thanks Splarka 
[13:28:57] <werdnum>	<>3
[13:28:59] <werdnum>	<3*
[13:29:06] *Splarka 	purrs
[13:29:24] <Splarka>	I only get love offset by the hate you have for IE, heh
[13:29:35] <werdnum>	hmm, how does one stop already-registered users from viewing a private wiki?
[13:30:15] <Splarka>	['user']['edit'] = false;
[13:30:20] <Splarka>	['user']['read'] = false;
[13:30:24] <RoanKattouw>	$wgGroupPermissions['user']['read'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['mygroup']['read'] = true;
[13:30:26] <Splarka>	['sysop']['read'] = true;
[13:30:30] <werdnum>	Splarka: so if (!this) { this = e.target || e.srcElement; }
[13:30:34] <werdnum>	ugh, yucky.
[13:30:36] <werdnum>	but fine.
[13:30:40] <Splarka>	oop, no, !this after
[13:30:51] <Danny_B>	anouncing wikibugs spam coming now
[13:30:53] <Splarka>	er.. you don't wanna use 'this' either I think, because that already has...
[13:31:10] <Splarka>	Dan: did you change a huge dependency list?
[13:31:11] <RoanKattouw>	!this ? That's not supposed to be possible, right?
[13:31:11] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "this". You might try: !bugzilla !bundels !csshideheader !deleteuser !errors !export !extensions !externalimages !filesize !html !imagelinks !linknw !logo !passwordsql !refresh !scap !sorttable !test !tidy !wikipedia 
[13:31:16] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) RC IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16599 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (danny.b)
[13:31:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) recent changes bot on #rurc.wikipedia IRC channel is dead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1291  (10danny.b)
[13:31:21] <RoanKattouw>	lol
[13:31:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) irc rc bots have been deactivated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1314  (10danny.b)
[13:31:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) IRC bot for Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1841  (10danny.b)
[13:31:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add robot identification to the IRC channel RC bot - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2117  (10danny.b)
[13:31:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The wikibugs IRC bot is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2216  (10danny.b)
[13:31:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mark as patrolled links in irc-rc (dutch wikipedia) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3270  (10danny.b)
[13:31:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Long titles cause incorrect display in RC->IRC feeds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4253  (10danny.b)
[13:31:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RC bots of irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5145  (10danny.b)
[13:31:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Several channels missing from irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13646  (10danny.b)
[13:31:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wikibugs IRC bot truncates bug summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6726  (10danny.b)
[13:31:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Include size of page in IRC->RC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6246  (10danny.b)
[13:31:42] <Splarka>	werd: use a nonreserved word
[13:31:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) log events in IRC RC feed not backward compatible/broke bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13662  (10danny.b)
[13:31:45] <werdnum>	holy shit.
[13:31:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) irc channel for el wikiversity rc missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13948  (10danny.b)
[13:31:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bot flag not shown on RC IRC posts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14245  (10danny.b)
[13:31:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Automatic account creations (SUL) are not reported on irc RC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14650  (10danny.b)
[13:31:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow ZIP CAPAB on irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14652  (10danny.b)
[13:31:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) IRC rc bot should send an 'R' flag if the page is a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14843  (10danny.b)
[13:32:02] <Splarka>	var thing = this || e.target || e.srcElement;
[13:32:13] <Splarka>	if(!this) return false;
[13:32:14] <Splarka>	I'd suggest
[13:32:17] <Splarka>	er
[13:32:19] <Splarka>	crap, typo
[13:32:24] <Splarka>	if(!thingy) return false;
[13:32:28] <Danny_B>	werdnum: don't forget to unblock it soon
[13:32:31] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: How can !this ever be true?
[13:32:34] <Splarka>	if(!type) blush
[13:32:43] <Splarka>	RoanKattouw: I fsked up there
[13:32:49] <Splarka>	I meant !thingy
[13:33:05] <RoanKattouw>	I know, but then why do this || .... while this always evaluates to true?
[13:33:11] <Splarka>	well, ask IE
[13:33:21] <Splarka>	werd is saying it can? I dunno
[13:33:40] <Splarka>	stop making me waffle werd, heh
[13:34:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) list=allusers doesn't list users with invalid names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16594  summary; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[13:34:43] <Splarka>	bad javascript makes baby roan cry, and peer
[13:36:15] <werdnum>	ialex: Why do we have a 'wiki selection' and let them only enter certain values?
[13:36:24] <werdnum>	Doesn't that sound like an excellent place to put a <select> box?
[13:36:30] <werdnum>	If so, can I replace the textbox with a select box?
[13:36:59] <Splarka>	multi-select?
[13:37:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RC IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16599  (10danny.b)
[13:37:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Importing a page appears as upload on the irc feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16592  (10danny.b)
[13:38:55] <ialex>	werdnum: yes, but only if $wgConfigureWikis is an array ;)
[13:39:05] <werdnum>	ialex: it is an array...
[13:39:16] <ialex>	might be true
[13:39:19] <werdnum>	ialex: oh I see, it *can* be restricted, and can not be restricted.
[13:39:26] <werdnum>	Can we change it to a select if and only if it is restricted?
[13:39:49] <ialex>	yeah
[13:43:20] <ialex>	werdnum: and do the same for the select in Special:ViewConfig ;)
[13:43:23] <lch>	I'm getting this here:
[13:43:24] <lch>	The database did not find the text of a page that it should have found, named "Debug Console" .
[13:43:24] <lch>	This is usually caused by following an outdated diff or history link to a page that has been deleted. 
[13:43:34] <lch>	can I run some maintenance script to fix this?
[13:43:53] <lch>	I had a look at the text table, and there's something in there for the id in question
[13:45:10] <CIA-8>	03rotem * r44336 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/CentralNotice.i18n.php: Localization update for he.
[13:46:27] <werdnum>	ialex: done, just committing.
[13:53:21] <CIA-8>	03werdna * r44337 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (Configure.i18n.php Configure.page.php SpecialViewConfig.php): If possible, present a selector-box for wiki selection, instead of a textbox with a list of 'authorized values' above.
[13:53:48] <werdnum>	ialex: tell me what you think...
[13:54:18] *ialex 	svn up
[14:00:34] <CIA-8>	03ialex * r44338 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php): CHANGELOG entry and bump version :P
[14:00:42] <werdnum>	ugh, :P
[14:00:48] <ialex>	werdnum: now it's good :)
[14:01:32] <werdnum>	actually, one thing.
[14:02:03] <CIA-8>	03werdna * r44339 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: nbsp
[14:02:32] <werdnum>	lack of nbsps between fields and buttons is a pet peeve of mine.
[14:02:43] <werdnum>	it's a minor thing
[14:09:31] <freephile1>	is there an extension which scans the edit box for existing article titles?
[14:10:06] <werdnum>	ialex: one thing that might be fun to implement would be settings for 'wiki sets'.
[14:10:19] <werdnum>	"All wikis", "All Wikipedias", All Wiktionaries"
[14:10:32] <werdnum>	but that might take forever, and I'm already two and a half weeks over the budgeted time :)
[14:10:48] <ialex>	wiki, default, ...
[14:11:37] <werdnum>	ialex: ??
[14:11:48] <ialex>	werdnum: there're already fallbacks on SiteConfiguration
[14:12:08] <werdnum>	oh, so we can use those?
[14:12:11] <ialex>	wiki -> all wikipedias, default -> all
[14:12:21] <ialex>	wiktionary -> all wiktionaries
[14:12:30] <werdnum>	Interesting.
[14:12:33] <ialex>	etc.
[14:12:44] <werdnum>	I wonder if we could have that stuff filter down.
[14:12:50] <Duesentrieb>	freephile1: i think someone wrote something like that ("can we link this"?). it would be terribly slow for a large site though...
[14:13:03] <werdnum>	As in, actually show this fallback in the interface.
[14:13:14] <freephile1>	Duesentrieb: thnks  
[14:13:16] <ialex>	werdnum: I have 'wgConfigureWikis' => array( 'default' => array_merge( $wgConf->wikis, array( 'wiki', 'default' ) ) ),
[14:13:22] <freephile1>	I just found http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Link_Suggest
[14:13:34] <werdnum>	interesting.
[14:13:35] <freephile1>	but I swear i've searced before :-)
[14:14:28] <Splarka>	freephile: there is a magick about this place, you ask a question and the answer comes to you via your own actions or thought process sometimes
[14:15:01] <freephile1>	Splarka: I've experienced that phenomenon
[14:15:19] <werdnum>	explaining your problem to a third party forces you to understand it yourself.
[14:15:36] <Splarka>	indeed
[14:15:57] <Splarka>	processing it to words lets you reinterpret it
[14:16:25] <Splarka>	"think outside your head"
[14:16:45] <freephile1>	I know that suggesting article titles in a large site would entail some performance algorithms, but in my case, I just want to use it on a local wiki
[14:17:06] <Nikerabbit>	mornings
[14:17:20] <freephile1>	so, it shouldn't be a problem to loop through all titles, and search for them in article body
[14:18:52] <ialex>	hello Nikerabbit
[14:19:07] <werdnum>	ialex: I don't think group permissions arrays are merging properly.
[14:19:17] <werdnum>	I think we need to remove the 'false' values before we merge them.
[14:20:25] <freephile1>	i'm kinda new to writing extensions, but is it true that it's difficult to use other edit extensions with WikEd?
[14:22:53] <Splarka>	if you're using javascript you could just do it in javascript pretty easily
[14:23:41] <Splarka>	get the textarea.value, split(' '), iterate, make sure it is alphanumeric or at least a valid title, and check if it exists by a call to the api
[14:25:25] <ialex>	werdnum: the problem would be that you can't revoke a right assigned from the default value or a fallback in $wgConf->settings
[14:25:40] <werdnum>	ialex: I have the opposite problem.
[14:25:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[14:25:58] <werdnum>	I have a right assigned in LocalSettings.php, but it's not appearing in ListGroupRights.
[14:27:44] <werdnum>	I already made importFromRequest import only 'true' values (no falses)
[14:28:40] <werdnum>	but it doesn't seem to help.
[14:31:21] <werdnum>	ialex: any ideas?
[14:31:27] <enhydra>	is there any way to make renamed redirects be #REDIRECTs, without using the localised version of this keyword?
[14:31:32] <ialex>	werdnum: not atm :)
[14:32:31] <werdnum>	ialex: oh, actually, doesn't look like we *do* merge with globals.
[14:33:09] <ialex>	werdnum: you have to define '+wgGroupPermissions' in $wgConf->wikis
[14:33:16] <werdnum>	in wikis?
[14:33:21] <ialex>	oops
[14:33:28] <ialex>	settings, of course :P
[14:33:36] <werdnum>	ah
[14:33:48] <ialex>	didn't you write that? :)
[14:33:52] <werdnum>	yeah :)
[14:34:11] <werdnum>	We could add a checkbox to the form that says "Add to settings", but I'm way too lazy :)
[14:34:36] <werdnum>	It seems to be unnecessary if you can view defaults anyway.
[14:34:44] <werdnum>	You can selectively update.
[14:34:55] <werdnum>	Although Brion might want it.
[14:35:15] <Simetrical>	enhydra, what do you mean?
[14:36:28] <ialex>	werdnum: it's working like a charm on my wiki :)
[14:36:42] <enhydra>	Simetrical, http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kalan/111?action=edit . I've just renamed this page to another name
[14:36:56] <enhydra>	cyrillic letters in CAPS LOCK are utterly hateful
[14:37:17] <Simetrical>	enhydra, then tell the Russian localizers to make the keyword lowercase.
[14:37:17] <werdnum>	Hmm, shouldn't                        return new MySQLMasterPos( $row->Relay_Master_Log_File, $row->Exec_master_log_pos );
[14:37:26] <werdnum>	be                       return new MySQLMasterPos( $row->Relay_Master_Log_File, $row->Exec_Master_Log_Pos );
[14:37:39] <werdnum>	ialex: the +wgGroupPermissions stuff?
[14:37:45] <werdnum>	How do you do that via the web interface?
[14:37:50] <ialex>	yes
[14:38:14] <enhydra>	Simetrical, I'd rather it was #REDIRECT with Russian versions just as additional aliases...
[14:38:21] <ialex>	werdnum: i'm changing it in my $wgConf->wikis :)
[14:38:28] <enhydra>	Simetrical, I have edit access to betawiki, is it in a MW message or somewhere else?
[14:38:29] <werdnum>	->wikis?
[14:38:38] <ialex>	ARGH! :)
[14:38:44] <ialex>	->settings :)
[14:38:53] <werdnum>	okay, so it can't be done via the web interface, right?
[14:39:11] <ialex>	no
[14:39:21] <ialex>	werdnum: have to go
[14:39:24] <ialex>	sorry :(
[14:39:27] <werdnum>	okay, talk to you tomorrow maybe.
[14:39:28] <Simetrical>	enhydra, surely it's not very friendly to Russians who don't speak English to have the gibberish "REDIRECT" dumped on their pages?
[14:39:44] <ialex>	werdnum: maybe :)
[14:39:46] <Simetrical>	It's not like most people who speak English as a second language would even know what "redirect" means, it's not a very common word.
[14:39:56] <siebrand>	enhydra: Special:Magic
[14:40:05] <ialex>	bye!
[14:40:16] <werdnum>	bye
[14:40:34] <Simetrical>		'redirect'              => array( '0', '#ПЕРЕНАПРАВЛЕНИЕ', '#ПЕРЕНАПР', '#REDIRECT' ),
[14:40:54] <Simetrical>	Most of the magic words are all in caps.
[14:41:03] <Simetrical>	Except the ones that aren't in English, like "thumbnail" and so on.
[14:41:14] <siebrand>	afaik magic words are not case sensitive, and pywikipediabot does not treat them as such, so it is harmless to change a localised default to lower case.
[14:41:17] <werdnum>	ten points if you can vocalise those words, twenty if you can read them.
[14:41:39] <enhydra>	Simetrical, well, these issues have been discussed many times ;) In short, we prefer to keep some places English (such as special page names) because they make less sense after being translated
[14:42:24] <Simetrical>	enhydra, you as in ruwiki, or you as in Russians in general rather than the established members of a single entrenched community that's already familiar with the English names for such things?
[14:42:41] <enhydra>	"redirect" is an easy word to learn, and its meaning  can be easily figured out by an average Russian-speaking person
[14:42:50] *Simetrical 	shrugs
[14:43:08] <siebrand>	wiki is an easy thing to work with if you learned how to. What's wrong with that? :)
[14:43:25] <Simetrical>	I guess most Russians probably know enough English that it's not a big deal.
[14:43:48] <siebrand>	Simetrical: especially the 8 year old, or 'Russians' in general?
[14:44:01] <Simetrical>	We likely aren't talking about people who can't even recognize or remember English characters . . . if there are any such people on the Internet.  Would be hard, with English URLs being practically the only ones available.
[14:44:10] <Simetrical>	siebrand, ?
[14:45:03] <siebrand>	Simetrical: just ridiculising your comment I guess. Feel free to ignore. My point is: localisation should be complete, and if not, you are assuming knowledge of other languages.
[14:45:32] <Simetrical>	That was what I was thinking.  I don't understand how keeping things English in a Russian translation is justifiable for core code.  I'm not sure if we agree.
[14:45:52] <Simetrical>	If ruwiki specifically wants it, fine, but that's different from it being on all Russian MediaWikis in the world.
[14:46:00] <siebrand>	Simetrical: we agree.
[14:46:05] <Simetrical>	But I don't speak Russian, so I guess my opinion doesn't count.
[14:46:08] <enhydra>	Simetrical, not really different
[14:46:09] <Simetrical>	Much.
[14:46:33] <RoanKattouw>	It should be noted that the Dutch Wikipedia community *asked* for #REDIRECT being the default and #DOORVERWIJZING being an alias, rather than the other way around
[14:46:44] <Splarka>	siebrand: gonna localize html tags, parameters, values and all styles? you could you know, and have mediawiki parse it.. but are ya gonna? ^_^
[14:46:59] *enhydra 	fully agrees to Splarka
[14:47:10] <enhydra>	localisation is a good thing, but overlocalisation is endlessly harmful
[14:47:24] <RoanKattouw>	So at least nlwiki doesn't want to localize #REDIRECT. Other wikis might want to, though
[14:48:12] <Splarka>	the dutch don't want to speak dutch, that is why they know four languages and do drugs
[14:48:56] *Splarka 	hides from stereotypes
[14:49:23] <siebrand>	currently it is not possible to override a default for a magic word on a local config (or is it?), which means that is tough luck for nl.wikipedia, RoanKattouw.
[14:49:24] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: You'd be surprised how bad most Dutch people are at foreign languages. Especially their poor English is horrific
[14:49:48] *enhydra 	remembers a case with White_Cat
[14:50:15] <enhydra>	he is a localisation addict too, and sometimes he can't stop when necessary. he once took a dictionary and created "Computer" accounts named differently in each wiki
[14:50:22] <RoanKattouw>	siebrand: Sure it is, with a bit of hacking. You can have the default Dutch translation for #REDIRECT be #REDIRECT and the Dutch alias #DOORVERWIJZING
[14:50:33] <Splarka>	siebrand: if it were, you'd get nasty localized parser regressions, like magic words no longer working
[14:50:35] <enhydra>	after SUL introduction, he was forced to search for bureaucrats and rename :)
[14:51:05] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: The English alias always works. Whether it's the *default* is another issue
[14:51:19] <Splarka>	Roan/siebrand: how about a feature thusly: have a MediaWiki: namespace message, that chooses the primary alias of all the aliases for a list of localized translations, and sets that as the default
[14:51:25] <Flamekebab>	Hmm, let's try this again - can anyone tell me how to make my infoboxes stay on the top-right side of my articles?
[14:51:37] <RoanKattouw>	In this particular case, #REDIRECT and #DOORVERWIJZING will both work on nlwiki, but when autocreating a redirect, MW will pick one
[14:51:55] <Splarka>	so that local wikis could, say, change Special: back to Special: but WEIRDCHARACTERNAMESPACE: would still work, and there'd be nothing they could do to stop it working (accidentally), and they couldn't customize it, just pick one
[14:52:18] <Simetrical>	Flamekebab, it's just CSS.
[14:52:20] <enhydra>	siebrand, does Special:Magic generate something in Special:Mycontributions?
[14:52:35] <siebrand>	enhydra: yes
[14:52:39] <Splarka>	(or maybe that'd be a feature for Werdna's crazy configurewiki to consider, rather than letting people change localizations of namespaces/magicwords willy-nilly, just choose the primary one from a list of aliases in that content language)
[14:52:53] <Flamekebab>	Simetrical - I'm trying to figure out why I can make it float right just fine but regardless of what I do it goes to the bottom of the article
[14:52:55] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah I guess that's better
[14:53:00] <siebrand>	enhydra: it writes to a page, but you should not edit that page, only use the Special:Magic interface.
[14:53:09] <RoanKattouw>	I was already imagining a finite choice MW message
[14:53:13] <Simetrical>	Flamekebab, you'd have to give a link to the page showing the problem.
[14:53:49] <enhydra>	siebrand, I try to save and I just get the things back as they are, with no error messages...
[14:53:58] <Splarka>	Roan: the english always works, but if you change non-english to another non-english then you get problems, especially if it is established beforehand, unless you set up a permanent alias to it of course (which is annoying for perpetuity)
[14:55:02] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: Yeah, that's why putting that stuff in MW messages is a bad idea. Better leave it in the localization files (and maybe the default in the config)
[14:55:14] <Splarka>	so having it settable for individual wikis is nasty (but so is localization of too much stuff, anyway, so it is just a tiny bit more nasty than present)
[14:55:22] <enhydra>	siebrand, seems like it resists setting #REDIRECT as an alias. I guess manual editing is the only way to enforce it :(
[14:55:43] <enhydra>	hmm, o_O
[14:55:45] <enhydra>	http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Sp-translate-data-MagicWords/ru&diff=prev&oldid=893534
[14:55:56] <enhydra>	putnik did exactly the same thing 20 days ago
[14:56:04] <siebrand>	enhydra: that is correct. English and fallback magic words are added behind the localised magic words.
[14:56:18] <enhydra>	siebrand, but they should be before!
[14:56:27] <enhydra>	(in this particular case)
[14:56:43] <Simetrical>	Flamekebab, very strange.
[14:56:50] <siebrand>	enhydra: behaviour is by design. "localising" as an alias is not localising. It's window dressing.
[15:00:31] <CIA-8>	03werdna * r44340 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/Database.php: DB layer compatibility with MySQL 5+ - allow both >Exec_master_log_pos and ->Exec_Master_Log_Pos in SHOW SLAVE STATUS.
[15:02:17] <enhydra>	siebrand, design should not explicitly forbid something that can be done by manual editing
[15:02:55] <enhydra>	anyway, I figured out what the problem is, the last scap is old enough
[15:21:20] <CIA-8>	03raymond * r44341 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[15:21:21] <CIA-8>	Per Brions suggestions http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/44245#c829
[15:21:22] <CIA-8>	* Append the reason with a colon rather than wrapping in parens
[15:21:22] <CIA-8>	* Rearrange the file-upload portion of the Special:Import form a bit
[15:21:22] <CIA-8>	* Using one message for the comment field since it'll be identical in both parts of the form
[15:21:23] <CIA-8>	More tweaks:
[15:21:25] <CIA-8>	* Add labels for the transwiki import portion too
[15:30:16] <CIA-8>	03yaron * r44342 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/Math/ (. SRF_Math.php): New directory for math-function formats: currently, sum, average, min and max
[15:40:46] <CIA-8>	03yaron * r44343 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/README: Added descriptions of new math formats
[15:42:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Random should pick from ContentNamespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16560   +need-review +patch (10lgarczewski)
[15:48:23] <CIA-8>	03yaron * r44345 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/INSTALL: New installation notes
[15:48:55] <bostik>	hi all 
[15:52:16] <CIA-8>	03yaron * r44346 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/SRF_Settings.php: Version 1.4.1 - new format-initialization process, several new formats
[15:58:16] <CIA-8>	03yaron * r44347 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/INSTALL: Clarified
[16:03:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Invalid HTML if both "about" and "disclaimer" are "-" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16590  (10N/A)
[16:05:03] <CIA-8>	03rotem * r44348 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[16:32:19] <Prodego>	there isn't any way to transclude the 'pages in category' part of a Category page
[16:32:20] <Prodego>	right?
[16:32:44] <Splarka>	DPL
[16:51:57] <schiste>	Hi, I'm wondering. How could I make a wiki page redirect to another url without the visitor knowing. For exemple having http://foo.bar/wiki/foobar/ redirecting to http://foo.foo.bar  ?
[16:52:55] <Wuzur>	schiste: Not without hacking the MediaWiki Code or putting some JavaScript into the Wiki
[16:53:05] <schiste>	eurk
[16:53:25] <schiste>	I was affraid you'd answer that :)
[16:53:34] <schiste>	anyway thanks :)
[16:53:37] <Wuzur>	k
[16:54:21] <gtpod>	Hey guys, looking for some hosting help if anyone's able to oblige :D
[16:54:46] <gtpod>	Basically need somewhere to host a reasonably popular mediawiki wiki + phpbb forum
[16:55:09] <gtpod>	So many options... looking for recommendations :d
[16:55:23] <Splarka>	schiste 'without the visitor knowing'... in which way? would they notice the Location bar change? or the page contents change? or what
[16:56:02] <schiste>	Splarka: just like a classical redirect between two url
[16:56:31] <schiste>	Meaning he would directly go to the second page
[16:56:39] <schiste>	(url and title doesn't matters)
[16:57:20] <Splarka>	so when you say 'without knowing' you mean 'without any choice' ?
[16:57:23] <schiste>	easier to show what I want :)
[16:57:36] <schiste>	when someone will go to http://wikimedia.fr/index.php/Faire_un_don
[16:57:45] <schiste>	will land on http://dons.wikimedia.fr/
[16:58:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow namespace-specific copyright notices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16596  (10danny.b)
[16:58:39] <Splarka>	ahh
[16:59:12] <schiste>	Sorry ^^'
[16:59:14] <Prodego>	Splarka: aren't NS specific copyright notices  a bad idea
[16:59:21] <schiste>	I'm not so good at explaining what I want ^^
[16:59:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553  (10mr.heat)
[16:59:53] <Splarka>	Prodego: much much worse are page-specific edit notices
[16:59:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553  (10mr.heat)
[17:00:24] <Splarka>	that at least is limited to Number-of-namespaces, and some wikis already have per-namespace copyrights
[17:00:28] <Prodego>	Splarka: if you move a page cross namespace, you will be doing all sorts of infringement 
[17:00:46] <Splarka>	Prodego: tell that to mediawiki.org, Help: is in public domain
[17:00:55] <Splarka>	most of the rest is GFDL/GPL
[17:04:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [Proposal] Bureaucrats's capability to flag a user as an " Importer" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16598  +comment (10danny.b)
[17:06:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow extensions to be installed, and other $wg... configuration changes to be made, without manually modifying LocalSettings .php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16595  (10danny.b)
[17:09:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make links to self-redirects being easy distinguishable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16562  (10danny.b)
[17:09:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make links to nonexisting sections being easy distinguishable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16561  (10danny.b)
[17:09:46] <gtpod>	Thanks..
[17:12:09] <bostik>	i'm trying to upload dia files 
[17:12:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The post-installation screen has too many links to MediaWiki. org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16555  (10danny.b)
[17:15:35] <CIA-8>	03ashley * r44349 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/SystemGifts/SpecialPopulateAwards.php: bugfix - check for the correct user right
[17:15:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make links to self-redirects being easy distinguishable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16562  (10b-jorsch)
[17:16:05] <bostik>	but i get: The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again.
[17:31:01] <ialex>	hello brion
[17:34:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Missing ses language name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16600 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (rgaudin)
[17:39:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Missing ses language name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16600  +comment (10siebrand)
[17:43:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Missing ses language name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16600  (10siebrand)
[17:46:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Missing ses language name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16600  +comment (10rgaudin)
[17:47:03] <CIA-8>	03tomasz * r44350 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/ (CentralNotice.db.php SpecialNoticeText.php): simplifying to allow all or specific project filter for en
[17:47:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow extensions to be installed, and other $wg... configuration changes to be made, without manually modifying LocalSettings .php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16595  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[18:03:21] <laga>	hello
[18:03:25] *laga 	goes to read the FAQ
[18:08:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Change of Output for Type number an date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16601 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (dasch_87)
[18:09:14] <laga>	is it possible to download the raw page source in mediawiki syntax for an article from wikipedia? it looks like there are XML dumps, but raw text would probably be just fine
[18:10:41] <brion>	laga: that's what the xml dumps are
[18:10:59] <CIA-8>	03dale * r44351 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (12 files in 6 dirs): 
[18:10:59] <CIA-8>	* Timed text abstracted to separate library. (enabling easy support for other timed text formats such as .str)
[18:10:59] <CIA-8>	* mv_embed_iframe.php ( entry point ) for cross site embedding without mv_embed.js javascript exposure. see: http://metavid.org/wiki/Security_Notes_on_Remote_Embedding
[18:10:59] <CIA-8>	* pause_or_play() replaced with pause() or play() embed libraries updated
[18:11:02] <CIA-8>	* style updates for sequencer
[18:12:37] <laga>	brion: well, the XML dumps are XML. but i guess i could live with that
[18:12:57] <brion>	laga: a think xml wrapper around mediawiki source text and page metadata
[18:13:00] <brion>	*thin
[18:13:22] <laga>	brion: alright, i'll use that.
[18:13:24] <Mike_lifeguard>	What is MetavidWiki?
[18:14:44] *brion 	slaps Mike_lifeguard around with google.com
[18:14:57] <Wuzur>	!e MetavidWiki | Mike_lifeguard
[18:14:57] --mwbot--	Mike_lifeguard: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MetavidWiki
[18:15:02] <Wuzur>	:D
[18:15:12] <brion>	mornin hcatlin 
[18:15:12] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) enable new usergroups and rights for en.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16248  +comment (10m.hamm.1)
[18:15:41] <hcatlin_>	morning
[18:16:02] <Mike_lifeguard>	well, I meant "Is that the video editing software we'll end up using eventually?"
[18:17:22] <Wuzur>	looks like that
[18:26:33] <CIA-8>	03ialex * r44352 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 5 dirs): svn:eol-style native
[18:28:43] <AaronSchulz>	brion?
[18:30:00] <brion>	yo
[18:30:33] <AaronSchulz>	hey
[18:30:38] <AaronSchulz>	did you get my LQT email?
[18:36:26] <brion>	moment
[18:40:17] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Please set up wiki for Wikimedia Norge - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15383  +comment (10rhalsell)
[18:46:33] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) enable new usergroups and rights for en.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16248  +comment (10rhalsell)
[18:47:23] <CIA-8>	03dale * r44353 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (3 files in 2 dirs): bumped-up fallback flash player version
[18:47:41] <brion>	AaronSchulz: checkin my mail now :)
[19:16:13] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) oldwikisource import from meta and commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13377  +comment (10rhalsell)
[19:23:43] <krish>	how to upload images in mediawiki?
[19:23:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) IRC rc bot should send an 'R' flag if the page is a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14843  +comment (10matthew.britton)
[19:27:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Long titles cause incorrect display in RC->IRC feeds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4253  (10matthew.britton)
[19:28:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) 1.12 upload fails on Windows Server (was: Uploading broken after 1.12 upgrade) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14213  (10mr-smoke)
[19:35:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RC IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16599  (10Platonides)
[19:46:15] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED)  Contributions from major UK ISPs being assigned to the same two IP addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16569  +comment (10brion)
[19:47:22] <sherrod>	Is there like an online lookup where I can put in an IP address and find out if it is a tor exit node?
[19:47:34] <sherrod>	I just have one IP I need to check
[19:48:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) 1.12 (and up) upload fails on Windows Server (was: Uploading broken after 1.12 upgrade) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14213  summary (10mr-smoke)
[19:54:43] <CIA-8>	03ialex * r44354 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Block.php: fix doxygen warnings
[19:55:32] <RobH>	AaronSchulz: You abouts for some general newb questions from me about rolling out some wiki's on the cluster with flaggedrevs?
[19:56:27] <Reedy>	sherrod, they may be, but people usually manually scan it and such
[19:56:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) 1.12 (and up) upload fails on Windows Server (was: Uploading broken after 1.12 upgrade) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14213  (10mr-smoke)
[19:57:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) 1.12 (and up) upload fails on Windows Server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14213  summary (10sam)
[19:57:25] <CIA-8>	03tomasz * r44355 10/trunk/extensions/skins/Tomas/images/scales-blue.png: dropping bit depth to 8bit to properly render in ie6
[19:58:18] <brion>	tomaszf: ok updated the file on server
[19:58:34] <tomaszf>	hurrah
[20:00:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) enable new usergroups and rights for en.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16248  (10m.hamm.1)
[20:02:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451  (10brion)
[20:02:06] <CIA-8>	03raymond * r44356 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: Add 2 more existing usergroups
[20:05:40] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on he.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14648  +comment (10rhalsell)
[20:09:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Python code in ViewVC lacks syntax highlighting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14705  (10brion)
[20:20:07] <CIA-8>	03tomasz * r44357 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/CentralNotice.db.php: changing to single call for date
[20:21:12] <brion>	tomaszf: anything else you want to change before we try it out?
[20:21:54] <tomaszf>	nope, i'm happy with it
[20:22:07] <tomaszf>	lets just watch the template generation very closely for the first run
[20:22:43] <brion>	bwahahaha
[20:22:46] <brion>	ok let's do this shit
[20:22:59] *Mike_lifeguard 	braces for impact
[20:23:07] *brion 	puts on some shades
[20:23:12] <brion>	that's how we roll here at wikimedia
[20:23:56] <brion>	$ php maintenance/sql.php metawiki extensions/CentralNotice/patch-add-preferred.sql
[20:23:57] <brion>	Query OK, 12 row(s) affected
[20:28:44] <tomaszf>	I'm turning it on for test.wikipedia for first go :)
[20:32:06] <brion>	whee
[20:34:06] <Duesentrieb>	template generation? huh, what?
[20:34:09] <Duesentrieb>	what does it do?
[20:34:13] <CIA-8>	03raymond * r44358 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/helppages/ksh-Huelp_foer_Sammlonge.txt: Rename due to encoding error and issues on Translatewiki
[20:35:36] <tomaszf>	brion: we'll run it on test till 4pm then if all is well switch it all on for en
[20:36:57] <brion>	super
[20:37:12] <brion>	Duesentrieb: centralnotice
[20:37:21] <Duesentrieb>	ah, i see
[20:43:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Thumbnails redirect to Main Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16244  (10joxer.uhk)
[20:46:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Missing ses language name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16600  (10siebrand)
[20:49:06] <CIA-8>	03raymond * r44360 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: Partly self revert of r44356: 'patroller' is definded in Patroller extension.
[20:51:20] <AaronSchulz>	RobH: back
[20:51:37] <RobH>	AaronSchulz: i commented on a flaggrevs ticket that you are a CC on
[20:51:53] <RobH>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14648
[20:52:03] <RobH>	can you review what i have there and let me know what I lack?
[20:52:16] <RobH>	be kind, imma newb in regards to our php config stuff =]
[21:04:06] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44361 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Add comment
[21:04:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on he.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14648  (10JSchulz_4587)
[21:06:26] <tomaszf>	brion: test & en look happy to me :)
[21:07:30] *AaronSchulz 	wonders if brion got to his LQT email
[21:07:48] <brion>	AaronSchulz: i'll look after this
[21:09:14] <tomaszf>	brion: do a couple of reloads on test and let me know if anything weird pops up
[21:14:47] <brion>	tomaszf: so far so good
[21:24:07] <AaronSchulz>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macadamia...hmmm
[21:31:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG client side rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3593  (10alvaro.segura)
[21:40:21] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44362 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Allow curid for filecache
[21:41:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) #REDIRECT at MessagesRu.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16525  +comment (10alexander.sigachov)
[21:45:53] <dang`r`us>	yo
[21:46:05] <dang`r`us>	what's the syntax to insert a date/time/username stamp, like often found in discussion pages?
[21:47:10] <CIA-8>	03rotem * r44363 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: Localization update for he.
[21:47:20] <Reedy>	dang`r`us, ~~~~~
[21:47:24] <Reedy>	sorry
[21:47:25] <Reedy>	~~~~
[21:47:29] <Reedy>	for signature + date
[21:47:52] <dang`r`us>	thanks
[21:48:39] <CIA-8>	03brion * r44364 10/trunk/extensions/timeline/Timeline.php: 
[21:48:40] <CIA-8>	Add $wgTimelineSettings->epochTimestamp setting which can be updated
[21:48:40] <CIA-8>	to force re-rendering of older images. Old version is purged from squid on rerender.
[22:03:54] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44365 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Article.php Title.php): Cleanup Title::getTouched()
[22:12:43] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44366 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Cleanup updateRestrictions() some
[22:24:34] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44367 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Delay restriction fetching query
[22:27:16] <werdnum>	hello all
[22:27:28] <Charitwo>	hiya
[22:28:49] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44368 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Revert r44367; ends up with an extra fetch :/
[22:40:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Missing ses language name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16600  +comment (10rgaudin)
[22:56:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Old news keeps popping up on top of the most resent news-lists - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16602 major; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (djevelunge)
[22:57:06] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Write and run script to purge old rows from categorylinks table on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16603 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (public)
[23:00:42] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44369 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Wiki.php index.php): Whitespace/style consistency
[23:00:43] <wikibugs>	14(DUP)  Write and run script to purge old rows from categorylinks table on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16603  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[23:00:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Wanted* - purge link tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16112  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[23:01:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Old news keeps popping up on top of the most resent news-lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16602  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[23:01:50] <MZMcBride>	Bah.
[23:02:20] <MZMcBride>	We've known about this since October...
[23:02:25] *AaronSchulz 	gets sleepy
[23:20:57] <CIA-8>	03vyznev * r44370 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/filerepo/RepoGroup.php): (bug 14365) skip invalid titles in RepoGroup::findFiles()
[23:20:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Wanted* - purge link tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16112  +comment (10brion)
[23:24:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Entries in the image table with invalid titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14365  major->normal; +comment (10nospam)
[23:25:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Old news keeps popping up on top of the most resent news-lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16602  (10brion)
[23:26:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Entries in the image table with invalid titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14365   +shell (10brion)
[23:29:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) IRC recent changes feed does not list patrol log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16604 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (matthew.britton)
[23:29:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RC IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16599  (10matthew.britton)
[23:38:55] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED)  Timeline images either generated without text or even not at all. Sometimes also no map areas as well. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16085  +comment (10brion)
[23:42:31] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) API list= recentchanges query does not show patrol log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16605 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (matthew.britton)
[23:50:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New:=?UTF-8?Q?=20ANGELA=E2=80=99S=20ANUS=20IS=20S?= =?UTF-8?Q?TRETCHED=20AND=20WIDENED=20?= =?UTF-8?Q?BY=20GRAWP=E2=80=99S=20MASSIVE=20?==?UTF-8?Q?COCK?=. WARM, STICKY CUM FOUNTAIN OF GIANT DICK, MAKE ANGELA HAPPY. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16606  (10N/A)
[23:50:50] <Charitwo>	O_o
[23:51:06] *Charitwo 	pokes brion
[23:51:31] <wikibugs>	  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16606  normal->highest (10GRAWPSMASSIVECOCK)
[23:51:32] <werdnum>	Charitwo: You should say what you're after.
[23:51:51] <werdnum>	brion: I think http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16606 needs deleting.
[23:51:59] <werdnum>	It's vandalism.
[23:52:03] <Charitwo>	i would have thought it would be obvious, heh
[23:52:19] <werdnum>	Some stupid kid.
[23:52:29] <wikibugs>	  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16606  (10GRAWPSMASSIVECOCK)
[23:52:32] <werdnum>	Charitwo: Not to me, I noticed the bug as it passed through.
[23:53:03] <werdnum>	like, peripherally.
[23:54:20] <FollowTheMedia>	Hello. Can I ask for help?
[23:54:27] <Charitwo>	sure
[23:54:45] <Vyznev>	in the mean time...
[23:54:53] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) random bugzilla vandalism - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16606  highest->lowest; summary (10nospam)
[23:55:23] <werdnum>	!ask | FollowTheMedia 
[23:55:23] --mwbot--	FollowTheMedia: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[23:55:47] <FollowTheMedia>	I got flagged as ''Importer'' on it.wiktionary
[23:55:47] <FollowTheMedia>	I'm trying to transwiki import pages from it.wikipedia but I got this error: "Importation failed: unable to open the importation file" (error translated from the italian version)
[23:56:03] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) random bugzilla vandalism - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16606  +comment (10GRAWPSMASSIVECOCK)
[23:56:17] <FollowTheMedia>	This happens only if the page I'm trying to import is very small (in KB).
[23:56:31] <werdnum>	Don't reclose it.
[23:56:35] <wikibugs>	  - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=  summary (10GRAWPSMASSIVECOCK)
[23:56:37] <werdnum>	Just leave it, he'll get bored.
[23:57:09] <Vyznev>	yup, probably better
[23:57:23] <Vyznev>	never mudwrestle with a pig, as they say
[23:57:35] <werdnum>	It's like arguing with an engineer.
[23:57:51] <FollowTheMedia>	Of course I can skip this problem by importing the .xml from it.wikipedia, but is's quite annoying... Any ideas?