is not. The user expects [22:26:01] <wikibugs> to be able to copy the contents of <h1> and paste them to make a link to the [22:26:01] <wikibugs> article, whereas the user cannot select the contents of the title bar to copy [22:26:01] <wikibugs> it. This is why the <h1> is more restrictive than the <title>. Does that at [22:26:01] <wikibugs> least make sense? [22:26:06] <wikibugs> -- [22:26:08] <wikibugs> Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email [22:26:10] <wikibugs> ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- [22:26:12] <wikibugs> You are the assignee for the bug. [22:26:14] <wikibugs> You are watching all bug changes. [22:26:18] <wikibugs> _______________________________________________ [22:26:20] <wikibugs> Wikibugs-l mailing list [22:26:22] <wikibugs> Wikibugs-l) [22:26:26] <brion> grr [22:26:29] <Skizzerz> o.O [22:27:36] <KuschelTiger> yikes i think i'll drop tomorrow in again [22:27:52] *KuschelTiger takes evasive maneuvers due to the flood of input [22:28:15] <Skizzerz> "flood of input"... lol [22:29:00] <Splarka> so what causes that? html tags in the beginning of the bug comment? [22:30:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Weaken DISPLAYTITLE restictions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12998 (10brion) [22:30:57] <brion> anybody feel like debugging it? [22:31:21] <brion> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/tools/wikibugs/ <- the script [22:31:26] <MZMcBride> It's any time it contains a "<" or ">' I believe. [22:31:48] <MZMcBride> No file extension? [22:31:49] <Reedy> {{notice|Please note, any BFRA regarding the mass change of links from "Image:" to "File" will not be entertained}} [22:32:08] <brion> file extensions are for weenies who don't have #! [22:32:28] <brion> what's a BFRA? [22:32:38] <MZMcBride> Bot request for approval. [22:32:43] <Vyznev> hmm... [22:32:44] <Vyznev> ($haschanges, $user) = (1, $1) if $contents =~ /<(\S+)\@\S+> changed:$/m; [22:32:52] <Reedy> brion, :P [22:32:53] <Reedy> cheers [22:33:02] <brion> :) [22:33:42] <Reedy> I suppose in some cases, if they are "files", ie pdf's/otherwise, it *may* be useful [22:33:45] <Reedy> not in all cases [22:35:03] <brion> well it's not useful at all -- Image: and File: behave exactly the same [22:35:15] <brion> there will be no affect whatsoever from changing them :) [22:35:16] <MZMcBride> But think of the children. [22:35:23] <Splarka> http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/16474#Image vs http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/16474#File all looks good [22:37:55] <Vyznev> brion: are you sure http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/tools/wikibugs/wikibugs?revision=22236&view=markup is the revision that's actually running? [22:38:04] <brion> lemme check [22:38:05] <Splarka> things that will be affected from the change: wgCanonicalNamespace checks in user scripts, {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Image|stuff|nonstuff}} parserfunction stuffs [22:38:18] <Splarka> these can't be helped, and might have valid reason for bot requests [22:38:22] <Vyznev> because I can't see how all that crap could possibly match (\S+) [22:38:51] <MZMcBride> Splarka: Because bots are good at writing template syntax? [22:39:06] <Splarka> *cough* better than some humans I know [22:39:44] <brion> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4396 2007-05-17 21:31 wikibugs [22:39:50] <brion> Thu May 17 21:31:05 2007 UTC (18 months, 3 weeks ago) by brion [22:39:51] <brion> File size: 4396 byte(s) [22:40:32] <wikibugs> testing [22:40:37] <brion> yep that's the right server [22:41:28] *Vyznev is puzzled [22:41:49] <Splarka> well, give someone editinterface, editusercssjs, editprotected and protect globally, and give them a grep dump of all instances of an #ifeq: containing a {{NAMESPACE}} call, as well as wgCanonicalNamespace in .js pages and .page-Image_ in .css pages [22:42:30] <MZMcBride> < and > are meta-characters and must be escaped in regex statements... [22:42:32] <Splarka> and call them robot [22:42:38] <MZMcBride> And \S+ matches < [22:42:51] <MZMcBride> If either of those things are relevant, which I doubt they are. [22:44:19] <Vyznev> MZMcBride: not in Perl's regexp syntax they aren't [22:45:06] <Vyznev> but I think I'm starting to figure it out... [22:47:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) list=allusers doesn't list users with invalid names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16594 (10brion) [22:52:36] <master_> Is there a way to store/sort/filter files in mediawiki? Maybe an extension or webdav thing or something? [22:54:17] <brion> scapping... [22:55:02] <Reedy> ace :) [23:04:46] <CIA-8> 03vyznev * r44475 10/trunk/tools/wikibugs/wikibugs: stricter parsing for readability, reliability and to (hopefully) fix breakage for users that go by their e-mail address only [23:09:49] <brion> PHP Warning: Missing argument 5 for ApiQueryLogEvents::addLogParams(), called in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/api/ApiQueryRecentChanges.php on line 341 and defined in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/api/ApiQueryLogEvents.php on line 143 [23:11:05] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Weaken DISPLAYTITLE restictions - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12998 (10N/A) [23:19:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement the Interlanguage extension in Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15607 +comment (10innocentkiller) [23:24:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Implement the Interlanguage extension in Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15607 (10brion) [23:28:27] <sprax_> Is there anything more to a namespace than just creaing [[Namespace:Pagename]] ? [23:29:12] <Reedy> !adding a namespace [23:29:12] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "adding". You might try: !extensions !extranamespace !toc [23:29:21] <Reedy> !addingnamespace [23:29:21] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "addingnamespace". [23:29:27] <sprax_> lol [23:29:27] <Reedy> !creatingnamespace [23:29:27] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "creatingnamespace". [23:29:29] <sprax_> I'll check the faq [23:29:31] <sprax_> no worries [23:29:33] <Reedy> bloody bot [23:29:43] <Reedy> You can just use MyNamespace:Whatever [23:29:59] <sprax_> I don't need to setup any localsettings [23:30:00] <Reedy> but if you set it up properly, it'll let you search by namespace and other niceties [23:30:02] <sprax_> or database tables or anything? [23:30:09] <sprax_> gotcha [23:30:15] <Vyznev> !extranamespace @ Reedy [23:30:15] --mwbot-- To add a namespace, modify your LocalSettings.php file, and add namespaces via $wgExtraNamespaces. A comprehensive set of instructions for adding a namespace can be found at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces>. $wgExtraNamespaces can also be used to rename the default namespaces. [23:30:35] <CIA-8> 03brion * r44477 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/CentralNotice.i18n.php: [23:30:35] <CIA-8> Revert r43975 "Comment out presumably unused messages per http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=878961#Obsolete_messages by Mormegil. Dev: please remove if confirmed." [23:30:35] <CIA-8> At least some of these are certainly not unused. [23:31:35] <Splarka> !botnoob | Reedy [23:31:35] --mwbot-- Reedy: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. [23:31:52] <Reedy> lol [23:32:02] <Reedy> i expected one of the simple ones to be there :P [23:34:16] <sprax_> Reedy thanks very much [23:34:24] <sprax_> I'm working on getting our sharepoint killed and replace with MW [23:41:59] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Automatic account creation of locally forbidden usernames is not prevented by local blacklists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16615 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (brovvnout+wikibugzilla) [23:42:47] <CIA-8> 03brion * r44478 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/CentralNotice.db.php: fix missing $ on var [23:42:51] <Vyznev> hmm... EditPage::userNotLoggedInPage() looks like effectively dead code [23:43:37] <Vyznev> the only way it seems it could ever be called is if the user somehow makes in into EditPage::internalAttemptSave() without having the 'edit' permission [23:43:51] <Vyznev> which shouldn't ever happen [23:45:06] <CIA-8> 03brion * r44479 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevisionView.php: [23:45:06] <CIA-8> Partial revert of r43762 "Fix bad XHTML" [23:45:06] <CIA-8> In addition to closing the </form>, this change moved around some calls which resulted in fatal errors for various types of page view such as a path-based search. Restored the original order of operations. [23:45:09] <Splarka> what if they lose session or cookes between clicking edit and clicking submit? [23:46:20] <Vyznev> even so, internalAttemptSave() is only called from attemptSave(), which is only called from edit() [23:46:32] <Vyznev> and edit() already calls getEditPermissionErrors() earlier [23:47:31] <Splarka> redundant error code is redundant? [23:47:40] <Vyznev> looks like that, yes [23:48:00] <Vyznev> mind you, there's nothing wrong with a redundant check in internalAttemptSave() [23:48:34] <Vyznev> but we don't really need a separate function and a bunch of UI messages for reporting the failure of a check that should never fail [23:49:01] <werdnum> hello hello [23:49:16] *werdnum grumbles, slept in. [23:49:37] <werdnum> oops, now I have to leave in like half an hour. [23:49:43] <Splarka> Vyznev: so move it somewhere it'll get meaningfully used? [23:49:58] <CIA-8> 03demon * r44480 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Per code review. Only set focus if we have a search term. [23:50:00] <Splarka> like, to show if a user has accidentally logged out, rather than lost the edit permission in another way [23:51:43] <Vyznev> if you mean session loss, I think we already report that [23:53:02] <Vyznev> thing is, the userNotLoggedInPage() function sucks anyway, because it doesn't let the user view the source [23:53:28] <Vyznev> and adding that feature to it would mean duplicating a bunch of code [23:53:43] <brion> Vyznev: ok i think i see what's going on with the bugzilla mails [23:53:45] <Vyznev> (or refactoring a bucnh of code, which arguably would be a good thing anyway) [23:54:09] <Vyznev> brion: yeah, did you see the fix I committed [23:54:37] <brion> normally the line looks like this: --- Comment #123 from Brion Vibber <brion@wikimedia.org> 2008-bla-bla UTC --- [23:54:46] <brion> with the real name, then the email in angle brackets [23:54:47] <brion> *but* [23:54:54] <Splarka> Vyznev: ahh, that, so that must have been factored out when it was replaced with more informative errors [23:54:56] <brion> if the real name is missing, then instead it looks like this: [23:55:08] <brion> --- Comment #123 from brion@wikimedia..org 2008-bla-bla UTC --- [23:55:22] <brion> our regex assumed the name <email@domain> format was always followed [23:55:36] <brion> so in the second case, the regex would spill over into comment text looking for the email address [23:55:41] *Vyznev nods [23:55:54] <brion> oh you already fixed it :D [23:55:54] <brion> yay [23:55:57] <CIA-8> 03demon * r44481 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Self revert. Need to focus when there's no results, not only when there's no term. [23:55:58] <brion> lemme look at it again [23:56:04] <werdnum> <3 Vyznev [23:56:18] *Vyznev blushes :) [23:58:05] <Vyznev> ps. the "(hopefully)" is in the commit message because I haven't actually tested it [23:58:12] <Vyznev> beyond running it through perl -c [23:58:13] <brion> ugh wtf does (?-s: mean ? [23:58:22] *werdnum stayed up until 3:30 working, and then slept in until 11. [23:58:26] <brion> :D [23:58:28] <Vyznev> disable the /s switch within this subexpression [23:58:31] <werdnum> brion: it means minus the /s option. [23:58:33] <brion> o

[00:01:15] werdnum: heard of Synaesthesia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaesthesia [00:05:48] You guys need to get a client that colors names. [00:06:38] irssi can probably do it [00:06:51] "Make pageCond() use PK is ID is already cached" ? [00:07:17] *werdnum pokes AaronSchulz at brion-codereview [00:07:26] Simetrical: http://p.defau.lt/?a_QeTtpHxWeAKOEYFDC00g [00:07:40] change looks fine i just don't understand the commit comment ;) [00:08:49] brion-codereview: I think what he's saying is that, to load page, the condition should use the public key where available (i.e. when the ID is available). [00:08:58] for some performancy reason. [00:09:38] ah, primary key! [00:09:40] now it all makes a sense [00:09:41] *is->if [00:09:41] :) [00:09:52] Simetrical: whee, /scriptassist install nickcolor fixed that up for me :) [00:10:06] Simetrical: html version, for mwbot logs: http://files.jaesharp.com/ircsynaesthesia.html .. try pasting from http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20081210.txt for example, assigns random HTML colors based on the MD5 of username (and sanitizes them for a white background) [00:11:34] unfortunately, Splarka and Sparkie produce: 5727a02c7b20b91a30defd199291eeab 672a9bcb25dfbb731dc3b1f3b35f5ea0 which is almost the same damn color! [00:12:07] holy crap, that is pretty close. [00:12:10] WHY? [00:19:52] tanks ppl [00:23:59] AaronSchulz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/44328#c882 ? [00:28:22] 03dale * r44436 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (mv_embed.js timedTextLibs/mv_timed_text.js): fixed rewrite error that was happening with some ROE files. [00:29:50] 03brion * r44437 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Wiki.php: [00:29:50] Revert r44335 "Tweak profile calls" [00:29:51] Let the doUpdates() func get counted even when it has nothing to do; otherwise stats will be skewed to only times when there are multiple updates. Or.... hmmm. bleah. [00:30:46] morning tim [00:31:26] "DB layer compatibility with MySQL 5+ - allow both >Exec_master_log_pos and ->Exec_Master_Log_Pos in SHOW SLAVE STATUS." [00:31:28] ugh :) [00:31:30] i hate mysql sometimes eh ;) [00:31:52] *cough* /nick brion-codeREVERT [00:32:03] brion-codereview: yeahhhh :P [00:32:21] I had that as a live hack on my install for a while, and then I asked domas and he said it changed in mysql5. [00:33:07] morning [00:35:41] mornin TimStarling [00:41:16] anyone have any idea why thumbnails would be fucked up for .svg's? [00:43:03] 03brion * r44438 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Article.php Title.php): [00:43:03] Revert r44365 "Cleanup Title::getTouched()" [00:43:03] Rather than a cleanup, this rev seems to be adding a per-Title-object cache of page_touched. I'm a little leery of adding extra caches like this, particularly since it's not clear that it'll get consistently updated. [00:47:26] dragonfly6-7: for you or for someone else? [00:47:30] oh, you're gone [00:47:54] brion: see -tech [00:54:34] 03brion * r44439 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Wiki.php: [00:54:34] Revert r44381 "Remove noisy profiling" [00:54:34] We... like profiling? :D [00:55:16] i wonder how many :D are in the svn commit reasons to date [00:58:18] more than >:(s i hope [01:05:15] Only 65 :Ds, sadly. [01:06:08] check how many /(rollback|revert|backing out)/ [01:07:30] don't forget rolling back, pulling out, backed out, rolled back.... :D [01:07:45] that's what SHE said [01:08:11] 329? [01:08:32] And since we have a feature called 'rollback'... [01:08:45] That just MIGHT be slightly inflated [01:09:03] Depending on how many devs actually mention what part of the program they changed [01:09:12] (What? That's what svn diff is for!) [01:13:42] AaronSchulz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/44433#c888 [01:17:08] 03(mod) Weaken DISPLAYTITLE restictions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12998 (10N/A) [01:17:29] 03aaron * r44440 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/CoreParserFunctions.php: Fix this broken crap some more [01:18:13] AaronSchulz: might be cleaner to just use $title->getLatestRevId() here [01:18:26] rather than loading the extra revision record [01:19:43] ok my eyes are glazing over [01:19:50] and it's about time to get leavin :) [01:20:02] brion: my eyes would glaze too :P [01:20:11] Configure tomorrow, maybe? :) [01:20:26] as time permits [01:20:31] yeah, fair enough. [01:20:52] Should I have a look over abuse filter or something? [01:28:50] 03aaron * r44442 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Revision.php: May as well set article ID in title [01:33:40] 03aaron * r44443 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/CoreParserFunctions.php: Reduce queries for pagesize thingy [03:33:28] is there a way to tell mediawiki to preserve spacing on bullet lines? [03:35:47] ? [03:36:08] say I want something like * Foo Bar [03:36:12] and I want it to show up that way [03:36:14] not Foo Bar [03:36:25] You should use a table instead. [03:36:29] is there some kind of encapsulation I can do of that line to make it keep the space [03:36:29] s [03:36:33] " " [03:36:44] yuck to [03:36:44] hehe [03:36:46] i guess a table [03:37:46] You *could* use [03:37:53] but that's kinda made of fail :) [03:38:00] the best thing to do is use a table. [03:38:00] werd: IIRC tidy strips spaces outside parser tag extensions [03:38:04] even with white-space defined [03:38:14] bleh tables look so messy, oh wel [03:39:02] a s d f [03:39:02] a s d f [03:39:06] yah, fail [03:39:59] (might not be tidy, but something does it before it reaches your browser) [03:40:32] hey how do I get a table of contents kind of thing for each page at the top [03:40:41] i remember that happening when I used certain types of head tags or somethig [03:42:07] __TOC__ [03:42:18] weird [03:42:19] one page has it [03:42:21] one page doesn't [03:43:03] 03(mod) Update to cite.php refs: ids fixed, footnotes, globbed links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16294 +comment (10ncw33) [03:43:18] does the page in question not have any, yknow, headers? [03:43:34] also, depending on your settings, pages with 3+ headers will get one automatically [03:45:21] ah [03:45:22] 3 + [03:45:23] that's why [03:46:30] 03(mod) Update to cite.php refs: ids fixed, footnotes, globbed links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16294 +parsertest (10ncw33) [04:33:49] hiya [04:34:46] hi [04:53:08] so my newest extension is call FBConnect and integrates Facebook Connect into mediawiki [04:53:16] i thought it sounded like a good idea [04:53:43] what do u guys think? [05:04:47] Hi guys [05:05:10] heya [05:05:33] So let's say I have a category and it's [[:Category: US States]] and I want to display all of the articles that are included in that category, under a ==See Also== section on [[United States of America]] [05:05:35] is that possible? [05:06:05] When I do {{:Category: United States of America}} it just lists the description from the category. [05:06:41] !dpl [05:06:41] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [05:07:30] Splarka: wow, you guys have pretty much everything memorized, it is amazing. [05:07:33] Thanks! [05:08:02] Hey Splarka: you interested in doing an extention modification for me (a real easy one) [05:08:41] Splarka doesn't code. [05:08:43] he only writes templates. [05:08:45] *werdnum gags [05:08:49] Prom_cat|STEAM: http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9282/vennsy7.jpg [05:09:06] haha [05:09:13] werdnum do you code? [05:09:15] and werdna doesn't think, he only codes [05:09:57] Splarka: He doesnt need to think for this one [05:10:08] its real easy, im just nub [05:10:20] Splarka, what would happen if you learnt PHP [05:10:41] you don't "learn" php [05:10:55] as far as I can tell, one day you get hit on the head and suddenly you can speak it [05:10:58] like French [05:11:46] srsly, how many commit messages do you see here that indicate a love for PHP? [05:12:07] werdnum: Bascially need the log for the following extension to only be accessible to users with a right such as [activitylog] , http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserLoginLogoutLog [05:12:18] It seems like such an elementry thing, I know [05:12:26]

brion * r12345 /trunk/phase3/ (includes/User.php): Easy fix with logical solution. Thank god this isn't Ruby or Perl. Phew! [05:12:38] Splarka: i have a giant mallet, i'll just wait for you to fall asleep [05:12:39] ^ that never happens [05:13:18] more often is a vernacular directive to aural fornication [05:13:44] Prom_cat|STEAM: I have other work to do. [05:17:21] whats the best IDE for php? [05:17:37] cuz i was using notepad until about half my hair fell out [05:22:07] gbruin: I use a programming editor called KATE [05:25:42] Aural fornication? You sure know how to talk dirty... [05:27:01] when editing a page, is there a way to offer "Save and continue editing"? [05:27:27] Hmmm. That's an interesting idea. [05:27:31] I was trying to talk clean... grep the code for "Fuck you php, fuck you right in the ear" [05:27:50] i'd find it useful when creating large new pages [05:28:15] I do 'save' [back] (be careful with things like sigs and subst though) [05:54:06] how do you bold something? [05:54:33] '''bold''' [05:54:41] that's three single quotes. [05:55:36] ah, thanks [05:55:47] !cheatsheet [05:55:47] --mwbot-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cheatsheet [05:56:03] k-man: ^ [05:57:17] thanks MZMcBride [05:57:27] MZMcBride: if you want it to direct someone to something you can go ! | command [05:57:29] eg [05:57:39] That's not even true. [05:57:40] !MZMcBride | cheatsheet [05:57:40] --mwbot-- cheatsheet: I don't know anything about "mzmcbride". [05:57:50] And I'm familiar with how the bot works, thanks. ;-) [05:57:59] other way around >.> [06:00:06] !MZMcBride | p858snake [06:00:06] --mwbot-- p858snake: knows me in the biblical sense. [06:03:09] !MZMcGroom [06:03:09] --mwbot-- Have you seen my wife? I heard something about rogue adminbots [06:04:11] !botabuse [06:04:11] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "botabuse". [06:04:46] !ignorethis [06:04:46] --mwbot-- [06:05:16] *MZMcBride pets mwbot [06:46:10] Hellow all ) Can someone tell me wich forum more workable on wiki with postgre? [06:46:55] After including dplforum, i even cant understand is it work? because i couldn't find it ))) [06:48:41] And how about AWC forum? does it works with postgre? [08:40:23] <_wooz> lo [08:40:59] hi [09:03:54] 03(NEW) subcat count > 0 for cats with no subcats on dewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16614 major; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (bugreporter) [09:57:48] hi. what search engine is mediawiki using? [09:57:50] lucence? [09:58:55] mysql [09:59:06] there's an extention to use lucene [09:59:09] pure fulltext search? [09:59:17] extension in mysql? [09:59:26] no, a mediawiki extension [11:17:10] 03demon * r44444 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionHistory_body.php: [11:17:10] * Remove useless if (true is always true :) [11:17:11] * Use SpecialPage::getTitleFor() to get the localized specialpage name [11:38:44] hey folks. i'm getting a whole bunch of errors when i try to upload an XML file to my wiki. a couple of hundred of these... "Warning: xml_parse() [function.xml-parse]: Unable to call handler () in /home/....htdocs/includes/XmlTypeCheck.php on line 47" -- and then some headers already sent warnings. any idea what's wrong? [11:45:03] 03ialex * r44445 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php): [11:45:04] CHANGELOG entry and bump version: [11:45:04] * Reverted CHANGELOG part of 44430, added a note that it was removed [11:45:04] * Required core version is now 1.14 (for SetupAfterCache hook, plus some JS incompatibilities already present :P) [11:46:51] ^demon: I hate you. [11:46:56] You got r44444 [11:48:19] <^demon> werdnum: I try ;-) [11:50:58] 03ialex * r44446 10/trunk/phase3/docs/hooks.txt: document SetupAfterCache hook ;) [11:51:11] oh yeah i forgot that [11:51:14] *werdnum was naughty and lazy [11:51:18] :D [11:51:40] ialex: I *guess* I can fix that IE JS, but what else needs doing? [11:52:30] no idea atm ;) [11:52:49] Does anything else stick out? [11:55:52] mon soeur va aller au geneve a prochain an :) [11:57:33] *ialex slaps werdnum with a french dictionary :D [11:57:42] which word did I get wrong? [11:57:46] prochain? [11:57:51] (I had to look that one up) [11:58:23] "ma soeur va aller à Genève l'année prochaine :)" [11:59:05] why annee, not an? [11:59:27] also ma soeur [11:59:30] I always make that mistake. [12:02:18] you can also say "l'an prochain" [12:02:19] silly french :) [12:02:29] o rly [12:02:36] <^demon> I'm done studying french :) [12:02:47] <^demon> I've already started forgetting it. [12:02:49] *werdnum waits for ialex to fart in his general direction. [12:03:27] i speak it and write it, i'm not french however =) [12:03:29] werdnum: I'm trying to figure out how to say this in English [12:03:34] :) [12:03:48] ialex: to say what? [12:03:53] (say it in french) [12:04:26] "ma soeur" s'accorde avec "soeur" et non "moi" [12:04:52] which is the opposite of English [12:05:20] "ma soeur" agrees with "soeu", not "moi" [12:07:12] I know, I just always forget [12:07:28] I get everything else right, but I say 'mon soeur' for some reason. [12:08:04] hey. is there any way to set mediawiki to return 404 when there's no article on a certain title? [12:08:17] Why? [12:08:18] I see that by default it returns 200 "OK" [12:09:01] returning 200 when nothing is found is not a good web practice. [12:09:13] There's a bug about it. [12:10:07] But, 'good web practice' aside, the problem is that most browsers do their own 404 pages [12:10:17] which isn't good if we want to let them create an article. [12:13:17] browser aren't a good web practise [12:13:43] <^demon> The web is a fad :) [12:17:33] werdnum: "most", that is IE. [12:17:57] werdnum: and IE does that only if the 404 page returned by the server is under 1024 bytes or so. [12:20:00] ^demon: yeah, people will eventually return to gopher. [12:20:49] <^demon> bogdan: Oh why not? ;-) [12:21:15] <^demon> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2585#c9 - starting with Brion's comment for a discussion of why it broke last time trying 404s. [12:21:27] bogdan: ie is "a lot" for all practical circumstances [12:21:29] can you use spaces in file names for links? say, {{doc|foo/bar baz quux.pdf}} or similar? [12:21:57] or does one ave to escape the spaces using %20 or some other such means? [12:22:35] <^demon> ams: Spaces are turned to underscores. [12:22:44] <^demon> Spaces/underscores are interchangable in titles. [12:24:15] ^demon: hm, strange the linkt hat was produced was broken... [12:28:22] bogdan: at least Chrome does the same thing. [12:28:49] anyway, there are reasons for rejecting that proposal in core. [12:40:38] <^demon> Oh wow. CNN says Luke's lightsaber from the original movies is going to be available (contest? for sale?) [12:56:21] hey again ialex [12:56:29] hello werdnum :) [12:56:39] You're the ghost of ialex, who killed the real one :) [12:57:00] werdnum: xD [13:20:07] 03ialex * r44447 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (11 files): [13:20:07] * Added basic support for $wgAutopromote (i.e. one level only) [13:20:07] * Rewrote some part of the java script [13:20:07] * Splitted row generation for $wgAutopromote and $wgGroupPermissions in static method so that they can be used for Ajax stuff [13:20:30] and forgot to mention that API stuff will come later :P [13:21:37] werdnum: someting to fix: "Reason" filed is blank after clicking "Show changes" [13:22:38] ah, whoops. [13:25:14] 03ialex * r44448 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.obj.php: oops :) [13:37:46] ialex: I think we should snapshot configuration in LocalSettings.php, not in the hook. [13:37:59] werdnum: hmm? [13:38:00] Some stuff that's set up in Setup.php is creeping into configuration, which isn't supposed to happen I think. [13:38:29] in extract(), we record the state of globals, so we know what defaults are. [13:38:58] Now that I deferred to after memcached for DB handler, the recording has some stuff that is set up in Setup.php [13:39:16] like AutoPromote, namespace protection. [13:39:49] werdnum: split WebConfiguration::initialise(), call one part first time of efConfigureSetup(); and delay the other part? [13:40:14] well, the snapshot is done in extract() [13:40:42] but I think I should move it to efConfigureSetup() [13:40:59] sorry, have to go :( [13:41:05] okay :) [13:53:55] can i see registered user email address in the frontend (1.6.10) ? [13:56:22] Richlv: no [13:57:01] werdnum, thanks [13:57:09] db it is then :) [13:57:21] yeah. [13:57:25] there might be an extension, OTOH [13:58:55] nah, db was faster ;) [13:59:10] =) [14:09:29] Hi, can anyone here help me setup sounds on aMSN, please? [14:36:01] 03aaron * r44450 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/rebuildFileCache.php: Add a script to filecache content pages on the wiki [14:44:30] Aaron|away: first commit of the day eh? [15:28:28] 03werdna * r44451 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (5 files): [15:28:28] Configure extension updates: [15:28:28] * Retain 'reason' when 'showing changes'. [15:28:28] * Change strict comparisons for radio buttons to explicit string comparisons, was causing problems on re-save. [15:28:28] * Fix a few problems with the wgAutopromote selector, including lack of proper diffs, fatals requiring DB manipulation when no conditions are set, a few other related things. [15:28:33] There's a recent problem with array inputs not showing blank lines, which I'm investigating. [15:32:04] werd: how goes the IE JS for it? [15:38:19] Splarka: eek! [15:38:22] I have to fix that at some stage. [15:38:33] 03werdna * r44452 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (Configure.diff.php Configure.page.php): Fixes for r44451... I must have forgotten to test this. [15:41:15] can anyone look at bug 16614? my bot is running into trouble because of these inconsistent WP-data. [15:41:36] the category-member counts suck [15:42:54] why does a purge not fix it? [15:44:36] it might work to find the subcat that was removed and null edit it, but then again it might not [16:11:34] 03(mod) Update to cite.php refs: ids fixed, footnotes, globbed links - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16294 +comment (10b-jorsch) [16:12:15] I like this talkback thing displaying stuff on the recentchanges, can I use something similar to display warning messages when somebody tries to edit a page that has a specific criteria of my choosing? [16:12:52] EditNotices? [16:13:59] does anyone know of an extension where if your wiki is limited to only certain users, and users have to be logged in to go beyond the first page, that the extension will redirect a URL to the login screen and then redirect to the page after logging in? [16:14:32] BLTnoTomato: It's a built in feature [16:14:39] !userrights | BLTnoTomato [16:14:39] --mwbot-- BLTnoTomato: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [16:14:58] i wonder if I've just tried locking things down too far [16:15:02] wait, I'll built you something together [16:15:06] it doesn't work on mine... [16:15:24] !editnotices [16:15:24] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "editnotices". [16:15:29] ;( [16:16:03] thanks, though, werdnum [16:16:10] looks exactly like what I want [16:16:21] lch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/MediaWiki:Editnotice [16:17:03] haha [16:17:04] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Editnotice-0-Proposal_of_marriage [16:18:03] that one is being copied under different names a dozen of times :) [16:18:51] BLTnoTomato: http://pastey.net/104174 add this to the bottom of LocalSettings.php Noone execpt sysops can create accounts anymore and reading is only allowed by account owners [16:21:57] wuzur, thanks. i have that included in there already. the whitelist I have has a bit more in it [16:22:15] BLTnoTomato: Does it not work? [16:22:54] the restriction works [16:23:41] but when a url to an entry is put in without having the user logged in, it redirected to a 404 [16:24:19] the time I tested it, it worked, but this has been now months ago [16:24:29] Are you using the current version [16:25:33] ^^ 1.13.2 [16:26:36] the page is redirecting to: /special:Userlogin [16:32:23] ah, i figured it out. [16:32:50] I was also running the NoAnonymous extension. once i disabled that, the redirect works [16:49:48] 03(mod) Install hanp extension parser function on Korean Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13712 (10camway) [17:08:26] bye [17:35:11] hi, I have a page object from the API, is the 'redirect' flag set? [17:35:16] else I can re-query [17:35:19] (using perl) [17:36:01] *faceface dumps [17:36:33] aparently not [17:37:38] 03ialex * r44453 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (Configure.diff.php Configure.page.php): [17:37:38] Fixed bug while importing $wgAutopromote from request [17:37:38] Note: it seems that I forgot to commit Configure.diff.php in r44447, sorry werdna :( [17:38:15] hmm... my dump looks like this... 'ns' => 10, [17:38:20] 'title' => 'Template:NARDatabase:Ciliate IES-MDS database', [17:38:42] does that mean I'm actually querying a page in the main namespace with a title 'magically' like "Template:"? [17:38:58] what is ns=> 10? [17:39:33] ns=> ist the namespace [17:40:02] OK, sure [17:40:07] but what is ns 10? [17:40:29] template namespace [17:40:30] cus I'm trying to look up a Template page using the API, and a bit confused about how ot do that [17:40:41] OK, thing is it says that 'redirect' => '', [17:40:47] but that page is a redirect page [17:40:57] redirects can exist in any namespace [17:41:07] wtf [17:41:08] redirect [17:41:10] http://pastebin.com/d51346d4c [17:41:13] HardDisk_WP: ping [17:41:28] http://pastebin.com/d6d466540 [17:41:34] Splarka: thats the code and the output [17:41:43] the redirect flag is NOT set, but that page is a redirect [17:42:16] perhaps the api call is being redirected? [17:42:33] http://biodatabase.org/index.php?title=Template:NARDatabase:Ciliate_IES-MDS_database&redirect=no [17:43:05] um [17:43:06] 03demon * r44454 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/RecentChange.php): (bug 14843) IRC should flag redirects with "R" like it does with bots, etc. [17:43:12] "redirect": "" [17:43:15] that means it is a redirect [17:43:19] if that is missing, it is not a redirect [17:43:21] 03(FIXED) IRC rc bot should send an 'R' flag if the page is a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14843 +comment (10innocentkiller) [17:43:47] oh, ok, thanks Splarka, I was looking for a great big redirect => "YES DAMIT!!" [17:43:53] compare: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&titles=Foo|Foobar&format=jsonfm [17:44:10] *Splarka shrugs [17:44:25] Roan adapted much of this from yurik's code, and it is odd at times [17:44:29] Splarka: how come a page object (page query) doesn't include the redirect flag if it is one? [17:44:30] just takes some smart parsing [17:44:32] just curious [17:44:41] where doesn't it? [17:44:43] OK [17:44:55] different query, lemmy paste [17:45:09] btw: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespaces#Built-in_namespaces [17:45:34] http://pastebin.com/d1da96a58 [17:46:13] what is the API query that produces? [17:46:26] not sure [17:47:22] that looks like data for a revision (or rather a top revision), rather than a page [17:47:29] Splarka: its a 'page' query, not an info query like yours [17:47:39] well, gimme the API query that got that [17:47:45] and then I can debug ya ^_^ [17:47:46] yeah, its a 'top revision', the benifit being it gives you text [17:47:50] well [17:47:51] right [17:47:57] revisions aren't redirects [17:47:59] Splarka: not sure how to get that out of teh Perl api [17:48:05] OK, me fused [17:48:08] they might contain text that indicats should be a redirect [17:48:11] like #REDIRECT [17:48:24] tanks for the info about ns [17:48:26] but a revision isn't a redirect, a page is, if the current text contains such a thing [17:48:53] I thought I was getting a 'page object' [17:48:58] my bad [17:49:13] in the same way, for example, a revision can contain [[Foo]], but there is no backlink on the Foo page to that revision, unless the revision was the top one for the page, as that data is stored for the page object [17:49:22] or something [17:49:26] however [17:49:33] er... [17:49:34] hehe [17:49:35] it might be possible if you can tell me the API query you're using to get that [17:49:50] and what xxprop= parameters it uses [17:50:08] or maybe Roan recognizes it offhand *poke* [17:50:13] the MediaWiki::API starts out with showing the 'specia' get_page function because people want to see that they can grab content quickly, but its a 'special' query really... I stick to the property query [17:50:24] nice link above [17:50:44] Splarka: its a revision query for the latest revision [17:50:49] iirc [17:50:54] http://search.cpan.org/~exobuzz/MediaWiki-API-0.23/lib/MediaWiki/API.pm [17:50:59] *sigh* [17:51:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php [17:51:10] Splarka: its no longer a problem! [17:51:13] bah [17:51:16] no need to debug! [17:51:19] lol [17:51:22] thanks for help [17:51:54] I didn't *adapt* stuff from Yuri's code, Yuri wrote the API and I took over its maintenance [17:52:14] well your doign a good job damit! [17:52:55] faceface, Splarka: When using prop=revisions, you don't get to see whether a page is a redirect AFAIK. Use prop=info|revisions if you're interested in that [17:53:07] thanks RoanKattouw [17:53:36] any cgi interfaces to WP built using MW::API yet? [17:53:43] seems some nice apps could be put up... [17:53:45] Dunno [17:53:56]