[00:01:47] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44817 10/trunk/phase3/includes/WebRequest.php: Delay $wgContLang unstubbing
[00:06:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) problems with forced PNG rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15057  (10brion)
[00:12:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Math hashes should include versioning to allow sensible updates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16719 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: texvc; (brion)
[00:12:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) problems with forced PNG rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15057  (10brion)
[00:12:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Write and implement new regex-based blacklist extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16717  (10mikelifeguard)
[00:19:34] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) page jumps to cannot find javascript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16710  +comment (10brion)
[00:21:51] <CIA-8>	03dale * r44818 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/ (18 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[00:21:51] <CIA-8>	updates to add_media_wizzard
[00:21:51] <CIA-8>	* jcrop to support image cropping
[00:21:51] <CIA-8>	* search api improvements for commons and metavid
[00:21:51] <CIA-8>	* stubs for wizard based inserts from foreign repositories
[00:21:51] <CIA-8>	* style updates (added in some gimp icons)
[00:21:53] <CIA-8>	* lots more config options per content provider
[00:28:49] <CIA-8>	03brion * r44819 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialNewimages.php): * (bug 16712) Special:NewFiles updated to use "newer"/"older" paging messages for clarity over "previous/next"
[00:29:55] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Special:NewFiles should use unambiguous browsing links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16712  +comment (10brion)
[00:31:49] <werdnum>	surviving the family?
[00:31:56] <jayvdb>	I cant find any documentation about the special pages, like newpages and recentchanges.  These special pages are transcludable, so some documetnation would be helpful.  Is it appropriate to add documentation like that to the Manual namespace ?
[00:32:01] <werdnum>	oops
[00:32:05] <jayvdb>	or the Help namespace ?
[00:32:23] <werdnum>	jayvdb: go for it
[00:33:18] <jayvdb>	im thinking it should branch out from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Special_pages
[00:36:20] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX)  Improve behavior of rollback if diff to last sighted version is from several authors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16467  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[00:37:08] <Pescha>	does anyone know of any ways to massively upload a bunch of files into mediawiki?
[00:37:27] <Pescha>	(and also do it in a way that keeps the directory tree organization)
[00:37:56] <Daedalus969>	rollback needs an optional edit summery
[00:38:48] <Daedalus969>	we also need a rollback for confirmed socks, like TW has AGF and Vandal rollbacks
[00:38:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[00:40:50] <Splarka>	jayvdb: years ago I found every Special: page possible, and tried transcluding them all (there were 5) and updated the documentation accordingly, of course that was before mediawiki.org existed so it is somewhere on meta
[00:41:16] <aib>	pescha, pywikipediabot, upload.py
[00:41:18] <Splarka>	(documentation creep)
[00:41:26] <brion>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16707 <- this is kind of cute :)
[00:41:40] <brion>	patch needs some adjustment obviously but i like the idea
[00:42:28] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) localized 'special' ('=?UTF-8?Q?spe=C4=8Bjali?=') namespace for mt.wp not resolving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16687  +comment (10brion)
[00:42:35] <AaronSchulz>	heh
[00:43:35] <brion>	AaronSchulz: want me to assign ya some bugs? :D
[00:43:43] *AaronSchulz 	saw that coming
[00:43:49] *brion 	mwahahaha
[00:44:07] <AaronSchulz>	I guess, to tide me over since most of my assigned bugs depend on a few schema changes
[00:44:13] <brion>	aww
[00:44:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add "rel='next'" link to login page to return to last page. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16707  (10brion)
[00:44:49] <Daedalus969>	Splarka, is there a way to make a custom rollback link?
[00:45:05] <Splarka>	sure, javascript
[00:45:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) localurl/fullurl for Media: titles should return the File: title's path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16678  (10brion)
[00:45:11] <Daedalus969>	I mean, do you know how?
[00:45:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Media: view URLs should HTTP-redirect to canonical File: namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16677  (10brion)
[00:45:22] <Splarka>	the rollback link allows a custom edit summary and various parameters
[00:45:22] <Splarka>	heh
[00:45:23] <Splarka>	sure
[00:45:35] <Splarka>	copy the link, paste in your location bar, append the reason parameter
[00:46:11] <Splarka>	&summary=Vandalism+OMG+BBQ+WTF+ASDF+RSPCA
[00:46:26] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) input control labels should be in site language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670  (10brion)
[00:46:27] <Daedalus969>	well,
[00:46:36] <Daedalus969>	I mean like the rollback links for TW
[00:46:47] <Splarka>	what is TW?
[00:46:49] <OverlordQ>	rspca? lol
[00:46:52] <Daedalus969>	twinkle
[00:47:00] <Splarka>	ask the author
[00:47:07] <Splarka>	I don't mess with huge messy JS libraries/tools
[00:47:41] <Skizzerz>	Splarka: you only stick with the small messy JS libraries/tools then?
[00:47:56] <Splarka>	indeedy
[00:48:26] <Splarka>	I don't like these huge tools that require so many sub-scripts and dependencies
[00:48:33] <Splarka>	they aren't highly portable and modifyable
[00:48:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wfDebugLog writes an error in Apache error.log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16689  +comment (10brion)
[00:48:42] <Splarka>	IMHO BBQ RSPCA
[00:48:50] <Splarka>	AaronSchulz: your cup runeth over
[00:49:49] <brion>	:D
[00:49:54] <brion>	lots o tiny ones
[00:50:15] <Splarka>	ooh ooh, give him the int: one too
[00:50:36] <Splarka>	(should be renamed "page tables should update from content language rather than user language")
[00:51:11] <AaronSchulz>	brion: death by a thousand bugs
[00:51:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) A non-Latin character with Latin one is duplicated in [[Special :Search]] of Japanese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16708  (10brion)
[00:51:21] <Skizzerz>	Splarka: but people can understand what that means. You need to make it more obscure
[00:51:27] <Splarka>	sigh
[00:52:09] <Splarka>	backreferences should utilize preference-agnostic first-pass page processing
[00:52:20] <Skizzerz>	better
[00:55:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) meta settings - main page in user lang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16701  +comment (10brion)
[00:56:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) meta settings - main page in user lang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16701  +comment (10brion)
[00:56:34] <Sean_Colombo>	does anyone know whether MediaWiki uses the Lucence (MWSearch) or Sphinx extensions ?
[00:56:44] <Sean_Colombo>	I'm pretty sure it's one... but I don't know which
[00:57:33] <Splarka>	brion: you should have a wfMsg call specifically for page titles that does an #ifexist type check
[00:57:42] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) meta settings - main page in user lang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16701  (10brion)
[00:57:45] <Splarka>	so not only must the /xx exist, but the page being referenced
[00:58:05] <brion>	Sean_Colombo: lucene
[00:58:08] <Skizzerz>	Sean_Colombo: wikimedia uses lucene
[00:58:09] <Skizzerz>	bah :P
[00:58:14] <Splarka>	(possibly with hacky parserfunctions and crap now prolly)
[00:58:18] <brion>	first post!
[00:58:18] <Sean_Colombo>	thanks guys! :)
[00:58:24] <Sean_Colombo>	ah... it is listed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version
[00:58:26] <Sean_Colombo>	durp
[00:58:34] *Skizzerz 	stares down brion
[01:01:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Commons default search namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16679  (10brion)
[01:06:33] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Commons default search namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16679  +comment (10brion)
[01:10:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff for IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15461  (10brion)
[01:11:54] <jayvdb>	Splarka: this page? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special_pages 
[01:12:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  The logging table needs a log_user_text field so that events from anonymous users can be logged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3732   +schema-change (10brion)
[01:13:25] <jayvdb>	created in June 2004 by Patrick
[01:13:58] <Splarka>	jaydeearm: not sure, maybe
[01:14:04] <Splarka>	also Prefixindex and Allpages
[01:14:12] <Splarka>	(at the time, possibly more now)
[01:15:54] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44820 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/EditPage.php): Add EditPageBeforeEditChecks hook for bug 16713
[01:18:34] <jayvdb>	Splarka: another help topic that appears missing is transclusion; we have a page on meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Transclusion
[01:18:43] <CIA-8>	03pinky * r44821 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUserrights/ (6 files): Adding new extension GlobalUserrights. Extends UserrightsPage to provide a special page for managing user rights across multiple wikis
[01:19:12] <jayvdb>	only three or four contributors; should I ask them to relicense their contribs to PD, and then ask for it to be imported to mediawiki.org ?
[01:19:20] <Splarka>	!templates
[01:19:20] --mwbot--	For more information about templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>. The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions> and enabling HTML Tidy <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[01:19:49] <Splarka>	just redirect mw:Help:Transclusion there, unless you have non-template related transclusion info
[01:20:06] <Splarka>	you could make it an overview/disambiguation page maybe... about anything in {{}}
[01:20:07] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44822 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Don't call getCheckboxes() statically anymore
[01:20:33] <jayvdb>	Splarka: special pages are also transcluded, so it is a more general topic that is needed
[01:20:48] <Splarka>	{{template}} {{#parserfunction:}} {{oldparserfunction:}} {{MAGICWORD}} {{:mainspace}} {{namespace:pagename}}
[01:21:19] <Splarka>	{{Special:Specialpagename}} / {{Special:Specialpagename/parameters}}
[01:21:34] <jayvdb>	*nod*  ill write a new page ;-)
[01:21:34] <Splarka>	most of the info on each can be found on the individual pages, so it would work better as disambiguation
[01:21:54] <Splarka>	k
[01:23:01] <Splarka>	also Interwiki transclusion (spooky)
[01:24:14] <jayvdb>	are magicwords and parser functions really transclusion?  the term doesnt seem appropriate in those cases
[01:24:32] <Splarka>	they sometimes include data (though not always)
[01:24:47] <jayvdb>	true.  LST is a good example
[01:24:51] <Splarka>	but you should mention them maybe in the negative 
[01:24:59] <Splarka>	at least link to the relevant help pages
[01:25:40] <jayvdb>	*nod*
[01:26:01] <Splarka>	!transclusion
[01:26:01] --mwbot--	Transclusion is a general MediaWiki term for including things into a page using double-brace "{{}}" markup. This can be things like templates, pages in other namespaces, variables, output of parser functions, some Special pages, interwiki pages, and such. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Transclusion for an overview.
[01:26:12] <Splarka>	there, now you better hurry ^_^
[01:26:24] <Splarka>	(and you can edit that in #mwbot or privmsg the bot)
[01:26:47] <jayvdb>	is that text PD? ;-)
[01:27:28] <Splarka>	si
[01:30:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) &nbsp; replaced with ordinary spaces in text following a <pre> block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6725  (10brion)
[01:30:30] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) wikibugs IRC bot truncates bug summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6726  +comment (10brion)
[01:34:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow ZIP CAPAB on irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14652   +shell (10brion)
[01:37:18] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Thumbnails redirect to Main Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16244  +comment (10brion)
[01:38:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Changing back to #REDIRECT on nl.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16323  -shell  (10brion)
[01:39:06] <brion>	siebrand: can you take a quick peek at this? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16323
[01:39:15] <brion>	a localization file update issue with #redirect magic word
[01:39:22] <brion>	got misfiled under wikimedia site language setup shell keyword :P
[01:39:54] <siebrand>	brion: yeah, I know about it. Is it possible to override a magic word LocalSettings.pph-style?
[01:40:13] <siebrand>	brion: not misfiled, because it's not going to be changed in MessagesNl.php.
[01:40:43] <siebrand>	brion: basically the request is to remove localisation. That's bs. There's a similar request open for Russian.
[01:40:51] <brion>	heh
[01:41:14] <brion>	well, either we should close em or bug the communities to make a more clear decision
[01:42:13] <siebrand>	yeah, well, I'm wearing too many hats here to make a descision in these cases.
[01:43:59] <siebrand>	brion: if it were possible to locally override the magic words, like with namespaces, this would not be an issue. But my generic reasoning is: magic words can be localised. Having English/source first, localised after that makes no sense.
[01:44:35] <siebrand>	brion: issues from the other side: "looks awkward" (experienced user speak -> nonsense), problems with bots (not a mediawiki issue, but a bot issue)
[01:44:41] <brion>	well it makes sense as a compatibility alias
[01:44:50] <brion>	eg if they were used in the past, but they don't want to use it anymore
[01:45:57] <siebrand>	brion: define "they", because these 2 requests state: because we experienced editors at nl/ru.wikipedia think that #redirect looks nice because we get what it means, all MediaWiki users should do it that way if they are using Dutch or Russian MediaWiki.
[01:46:40] <jayvdb>	should http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Parser_function_extensions be moved out of the extension namespace?
[01:47:11] <siebrand>	jayvdb: sounds like a cat name.
[01:47:39] <siebrand>	(booting)
[01:51:13] <jayvdb>	siebrand: there is also a category: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Parser_function_extensions
[01:52:26] <siebrand>	jayvdb: see talk page of the page in Extension:. Do what you think is best.
[01:54:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make links to nonexisting sections being easy distinguishable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16561  (10brion)
[01:55:39] <siebrand>	(zzz... 3am)
[02:00:16] <ADZ3>	hey I get an error page in mediawiki: http://bslife.info
[02:00:31] <ADZ3>	does anybody know what happened and how to fix it?
[02:01:11] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44823 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): (bug 16713) Make flagging easier if editing current unflagged version
[02:01:13] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Make flagging easier if editing current unflagged version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16713  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:03:08] <CIA-8>	03ashley * r44824 10/trunk/phase3/CREDITS: adding Nathaniel Herman into CREDITS (r44084, r44213)
[02:03:35] <ADZ3>	anybody know?
[02:04:01] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44825 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Clean up message loading
[02:05:16] <CIA-8>	03siebrand * r44826 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/MessageGroups.php: Update text
[02:06:04] <AaronSchulz>	brion: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16639
[02:06:06] <AaronSchulz>	any suggestions?
[02:07:11] <Splarka>	tooltips! <3
[02:11:37] <brion>	AaronSchulz: "save changes" sounds ok :D
[02:12:20] <AaronSchulz>	brion: what about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16640 ?
[02:12:29] <AaronSchulz>	would LC_ALL=en_US.utf-8 work?
[02:12:51] <CIA-8>	03brion * r44827 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmEdit/MathCaptcha.class.php: 
[02:12:51] <CIA-8>	bug 16611 -- broken regex made the MathCaptcha image not appear
[02:12:51] <CIA-8>	Also, wrong parameter name for the answer made it not work. :)
[02:13:10] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) When using $wgCaptchaClass = 'MathCaptcha' Captcha does not appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16611  +comment (10brion)
[02:14:30] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44828 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReview.i18n.php: (bug 16639) Rename save buttons
[02:14:55] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Code Review buttons can be considered "confusing" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16639  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:16:11] <brion>	whee
[02:16:52] <CIA-8>	03brion * r44829 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * (bug 16612) Fixed "noprint" class for Modern skin print style
[02:17:03] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) "noprint" class for Modern skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16612  +comment (10brion)
[02:19:50] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44830 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: (bug 16689) wfDebugLog writes an error in Apache error.log
[02:19:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) wfDebugLog writes an error in Apache error.log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16689  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:20:26] <ADZ3>	hey does ANYBODY know what the error on http://bslife.info means?
[02:21:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page saving error MW1.13 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16227  +comment (10brion)
[02:21:52] <brion>	"Error: 1033 Incorrect information in file: './adz_bsnw/objectcache.frm' (localhost)"
[02:21:53] <jayvdb>	wrt "lc" "lcfirst" etc, are they magic words or parser functions ?
[02:21:54] <brion>	ouch
[02:21:54] <AaronSchulz>	ADZ3: /adz_bsnw/objectcache.frm has to exist and must be valid, running REPAIR on the table may work
[02:22:02] <brion>	ADZ3: something horribly wrong with your database
[02:22:15] <AaronSchulz>	however it is just object cache, so, you may just be able to drop and rebuilt
[02:22:21] <AaronSchulz>	if the other tables are like then...
[02:22:50] <brion>	firefox crashed .... that's a sign i should go home ;)
[02:22:53] <brion>	catchy'all later
[02:22:57] <AaronSchulz>	brion: bye
[02:23:02] <gurch>	there was an error reporting your error :o
[02:26:30] <ADZ3>	tried that and it didn't work :(
[02:26:34] <ADZ3>	any other ideas?
[02:27:30] <AaronSchulz>	ADZ3: you tried REPAIR?
[02:27:50] <AaronSchulz>	and dropping?
[02:29:07] <Splarka>	Space Shuttles to be for sale, $42 million, + $6 million shipping
[02:29:33] <ADZ3>	wait dropping?
[02:29:43] <ADZ3>	wouldn't that selete the table?
[02:30:04] <AaronSchulz>	drop that one table yes, it has no unique data, objectcache is just a cache
[02:31:02] <ADZ3>	#6 - Error on delete of './adz_ossiswiki/objectcache.MYI' (Errcode: 2) 
[02:31:18] <ADZ3>	I think it's not just that table...
[02:32:36] <Splarka>	jayvdb: if they have a parameter they're parserfunctions, if not, they're "magic words" (some prefer the term 'variables')
[02:32:52] <Splarka>	some can be both, the ones that only have one optional parameter, like :R
[02:35:27] <AaronSchulz>	ADZ3: did you just set up mysql or start using it?
[02:37:57] <AaronSchulz>	ADZ3: also, see http://3mro.wordpress.com/2007/03/06/mysql-error-incorrect-information-in-file-filename/
[02:39:29] <jayvdb>	Splarka: they are all currently documented on [[Help:Magic words]].  I have moved [[Extension:Parser function extensions]] to [[Help:Parser function]].  Would it be appropriate to transplant the relevant parts of [[Help:Magic words]] to [[Help:Parser function]] ?
[02:40:30] <jayvdb>	also, would it be useful to have a help page for each of these core functions ? (im a sucker for lots of work)
[02:45:11] <Splarka>	jayvdb: isn't that a violation of the namespace licenses on MW?
[02:46:10] <Splarka>	(moving from Extension to Help)
[02:46:17] <jayvdb>	ugh?  there are different licenses per namespace ?? 
[02:46:47] <Splarka>	yes... Help: is public domain
[02:47:00] <Splarka>	maybe you shouldn't do anything drastic until you're a bit less green ^_^
[02:47:08] <jayvdb>	ah.  I think it was all PD
[02:47:16] <jayvdb>	yea, maybe :/
[02:47:42] <Splarka>	adding more examples is pretty safe (I do it all the time)
[02:48:28] <jayvdb>	ive been illegal. should I move it back ?
[02:48:37] <Splarka>	yeah, if you have
[02:48:45] *Splarka 	isn't paying a lot of attention, but that raised red flags
[02:52:01] <jayvdb>	done
[02:52:39] <jayvdb>	so I can create [[help:lc]] [[help:lcfirst]] etc.
[02:52:42] <jayvdb>	?
[02:53:10] <Splarka>	that sounds excessive
[02:53:33] <jayvdb>	we have one for every $something
[02:53:53] <jayvdb>	i.e., over in manual
[03:02:35] <Splarka>	apparently the Prime Minister of Canada is "unamerican"
[03:05:43] <jayvdb>	he should put that on a plaque on his office wall
[03:07:14] <Splarka>	he pissed off the liberals and quebec so much they did the unthinkable and joined forces to kick him out... so he shut down the government until next year
[03:12:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page number attribute for <ref> tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13127  (10michael.daly)
[03:36:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Don't post message on channel if changing CC field only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10842  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[04:28:48] <jayvdb>	this looks very odd: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:New_pages 
[04:29:02] <jayvdb>	why does it show "UNIQ4c3f3a1852b17b7d-nowiki-00000000-QIN" ?
[04:31:14] <Splarka>	impressive
[04:35:41] <Splarka>	jayvdb: you managed to break the parser
[04:35:45] <jayvdb>	ta
[04:35:59] <jayvdb>	who was calling me green a little while ago ? :P
[04:36:11] <Splarka>	please write a new one and mail it to Jimbo Wales, C/O Wikimedia Cabal, 21127 North Wiki Street, St Petersberg, Fl
[04:36:31] <OverlordQ>	I think newpages doesn't like to be transcluded :P
[04:36:50] <Splarka>	I did see an impressive breakage with Newpages recently..
[04:37:04] <Mikeonline>	hi
[04:37:22] <Splarka>	</div>{{Special:Newpages}} can totally break the page html past even Tidy's abiliy to fix it, if there are no new pages on the recent changes table
[04:37:51] <jayvdb>	this might be related to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3358
[04:38:48] <Mikeonline>	does someone know sth about raid stripe sizes related to clustersizes of ntfs?
[04:38:59] <jayvdb>	actually that bug looks like it is fixed now
[04:39:16] <jayvdb>	i.e. "{{Special:Newimages/2}}{{Special:Newimages/2}}" wfm
[04:39:31] <OverlordQ>	that does, but if you try to transclude it again, it'll break again
[04:39:37] <OverlordQ>	with different options
[04:39:54] <Splarka>	even breaks it inside <nowiki> impressively
[04:40:06] <Splarka>	but maybe only if it returns no results...
[04:40:50] <OverlordQ>	hurm, nm
[04:41:10] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129
[04:41:33] <Splarka>	it is that bug, pretty sure
[04:41:36] <Splarka>	for example:
[04:41:45] <Splarka>	{{Special:Newpages/limit=5,offset=10,shownav}} <nowiki>{{Special:Newpages/limit=5,shownav}}</nowiki>
[04:41:46] <Splarka>	that works fine
[04:41:58] <Splarka>	reverse them: <nowiki>{{Special:Newpages/limit=5,shownav}}</nowiki> {{Special:Newpages/limit=5,offset=10,shownav}}
[04:42:00] <Splarka>	and it borks
[04:42:20] <OverlordQ>	I think if it
[04:42:23] <OverlordQ>	returns 0 pages it borks
[04:42:30] <Splarka>	<Splarka> but maybe only if it returns no results...
[04:42:36] <Splarka>	yep, I filed that other bug
[04:42:37] <OverlordQ>	that too ;)
[04:42:54] <Splarka>	okay, it's just messing up <nowiki>
[04:43:04] <OverlordQ>	if you change the offset to 0, it'll work again
[04:43:16] <jayvdb>	offset doesnt appear to work
[04:43:32] <Splarka>	it isn't the problem though
[04:43:38] <Mikeonline>	bye
[04:43:40] <Splarka>	the problem is the special page returning no results
[04:43:45] <jayvdb>	each time I tried to use it, the result was "this report has no results" or something like that
[04:44:23] <OverlordQ>	it returns results, just not with the offset parameter set to something non-zero
[04:44:55] <jayvdb>	is the offset param broken ?
[04:44:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) extra closing tag with transcluded empty Special: Newpages screws up page coherence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  minor->normal; +comment (10herd)
[04:45:45] <OverlordQ>	offset isn't listed in the table of parameters that it accepts
[04:46:20] <Splarka>	it is a wiki, he can invent parameters and they'll magically work
[04:46:46] <OverlordQ>	16129 isn't what's happening here
[04:48:31] <Splarka>	it isn't what is causing the report to return zero parameters, no
[04:48:38] <Splarka>	but the report returning zero is causing 16129
[04:49:02] <Splarka>	so, yes, it is what is happening here, zero Newpages borks the page
[04:49:19] <OverlordQ>	ah )
[04:49:20] <OverlordQ>	* :)
[04:49:25] <Splarka>	jay: move the <nowiki> examples until after any newpages that doesn't have any results
[04:52:52] <jayvdb>	ive removed the example; I only saved it per "wtf"
[04:53:15] <jayvdb>	sorry, I mean that ive removed the invocation
[04:55:28] <OverlordQ>	aaaaaaaahhhhhh
[04:55:31] <OverlordQ>	I think I know why
[04:57:48] <OverlordQ>	yup
[04:57:59] <OverlordQ>	offset for Newpages wants a timestamp, not a integer value
[04:59:57] <jayvdb>	15:45 < OverlordQ> offset isn't listed in the table of parameters that it accepts
[05:00:11] <jayvdb>	?? is there an offset param that isnt listed as accepted?
[05:00:56] <OverlordQ>	jayvdb: afaik, it'll take everything you can do on Special:NewPages
[05:02:40] <OverlordQ>	ie: hide, show, namespace, etc
[05:02:40] <jayvdb>	oh goody
[05:02:40] <jayvdb>	can it take username ?
[05:02:40] <jayvdb>	I tried username and userid, but they didnt appear to work
[05:02:40] <jayvdb>	bug 3358 talks about userid:(number)
[05:03:43] <OverlordQ>	for some reason, no doesn't look like it
[05:04:56] <jayvdb>	that feature was added in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6448
[05:05:58] <OverlordQ>	yea it doesn't look like it's an option when transcluding though
[05:07:20] <OverlordQ>	*shrug* try it and see, i'm half asleep
[05:18:13] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add username parameter when transcluding Special:Newpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16720 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (overlordq)
[05:25:34] <jayvdb>	thanks OverlordQ 
[05:32:25] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Transclusion of Special pages not working with filter/limits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14692  +comment (10overlordq)
[06:04:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Unicode combining characters are difficult to edit in some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16697  (10lang.support)
[06:30:52] <DigitallyBorn>	My MediaWiki installation seems to not recognize that a user is logged in when viewing the Image namespace
[06:31:14] <DigitallyBorn>	Has anyone run into this issue?
[06:43:39] <OverlordQ>	using any special auth extensions?
[06:48:34] <DigitallyBorn>	OverlordQ: No. Only extension is parserfunctions
[06:48:55] <DigitallyBorn>	I just posted all the info in the support desk: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Sections/Images#Image_namespace_not_recognizing_user_authentication
[06:58:07] <TimStarling>	DigitallyBorn: it could be a security filter, in front of your wiki
[06:58:34] <TimStarling>	removing cookies when the word "image" is in the URL
[06:59:06] <DigitallyBorn>	TimStarling: But authentication isn't lost. When the user moves on they are still logged in. It's only on Image articles
[06:59:16] <TimStarling>	yes, that supports my theory
[06:59:24] <DigitallyBorn>	TimStarling: Ok .. any way I can check?
[06:59:48] <TimStarling>	who controls the server?
[07:00:14] <DigitallyBorn>	It's hosted with Mosso
[07:00:19] <violon>	hi
[07:02:01] <violon>	anyone know how to get the <math></math> tags rendered ?
[07:02:09] <DigitallyBorn>	TimStarling: It's cloud-based hosting. Is what you're looking for in apache config? Or some other network hardware?
[07:02:29] <DigitallyBorn>	violon: You have Tex enabled?
[07:02:36] <TimStarling>	ok...
[07:02:43] <violon>	not sure.. 
[07:03:12] <violon>	DigitallyBorn: would it be used to do, on the fly rendering, or rendered images that are stored ?
[07:03:22] <DigitallyBorn>	violon: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Enable_TeX
[07:03:42] <TimStarling>	is it mod_php, or CGI?
[07:04:20] <violon>	is there a Win32 solution ? (lol) 
[07:05:42] <TimStarling>	if you don't know, that's ok
[07:06:22] <DigitallyBorn>	TimStarling: No idea. That show up in phpinfo() ?
[07:06:29] <TimStarling>	yes
[07:06:35] <DigitallyBorn>	(I'm a .NET guy :D )
[07:06:42] <TimStarling>	actually if you have a phpinfo() script set up already, that should do the trick
[07:07:01] <DigitallyBorn>	PM'ed
[07:08:58] <Splarka>	hey tim, I know you &quot;love&quot; parser bugs, but this one is a doozie: </div>{{Special:Newpages/offset=-1}} screws up the page even with tidy, and <nowiki></nowiki>{{Special:Newpages/offset=-1}} causes a simple innocent <nowiki> to UNIQ (bug #16129)... it might be that addWikiMsg() is usually not used inside content very often...? (but empty transcluded Newpages is one such case)
[07:12:29] <violon>	so, there isn't really a Win32 solution.. right ?
[07:12:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Transclusion of Special pages not working with filter/limits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14692  +comment (10jayvdb)
[07:15:40] <OverlordQ>	that's probably not a very nice query jayvdb :P
[07:19:55] <jayvdb>	OverlordQ: hehe
[07:20:12] <jayvdb>	it could be improved by using YYYYMMDD syntax
[07:21:16] <TimStarling>	Splarka: that sounds like it won't totally break everything
[07:22:58] <Splarka>	it seems to break any parser tags that appear before it in a page
[07:23:05] <TimStarling>	for the benefit of the channel: DigitallyBorn's problem was a firewall run by the web host that strips cookie headers for all requests with URLs that end in an image-like file extension
[07:23:41] <Splarka>	yay for dumb extension matching
[07:23:48] <Splarka>	speaking of which, external images...
[07:24:31] <Splarka>	how secure is it to use a regex match to allow total arbitrary <img> embedding (assuming exteranal images are allowed)?
[07:24:32] <OverlordQ>	jayvdb: not meaning the syntax, meaning how nice it is to the DB :P
[07:29:37] <jayvdb>	OverlordQ: If it is loaded once per day it isnt so bad.  because it is using {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} I think it regenerates each page load.  if it was using {{CURRENTYEAR}}{{CURRENTMONTH}}{{CURRENTDAY}}-<n>, would it end up cached?  probably not?
[07:30:37] <DigitallyBorn>	TimStarling: Posted solution: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Sections/Images#Image_namespace_not_recognizing_user_authentication
[07:30:41] <DigitallyBorn>	TimStarling: Thanks again!
[07:30:50] <TimStarling>	no problem
[07:31:02] <DigitallyBorn>	I'm out .. g'night everybody
[07:46:59] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44831 10/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php: Removed redundant mExtra init
[07:50:31] <OverlordQ>	I dunno, that would have been a question for tim :P
[07:59:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Pre-save transforms (subst:, pipe trick) should run at render time as well as before save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16714  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[08:04:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload filter insufficient to stop XSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15895  (10tstarling)
[08:04:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) extra closing tag with transcluded empty Special: Newpages screws up page coherence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  (10herd)
[08:13:33] <CIA-8>	03tstarling * r44832 10/trunk/phase3/includes/IEContentAnalyzer.php: Fixes as per bug 15895 comment 7.
[08:25:53] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44833 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ChangesList.php: 
[08:25:53] <CIA-8>	* Tweaks from profiling
[08:25:53] <CIA-8>	* Remove extract() call
[08:25:53] <CIA-8>	* Break some lines
[08:36:27] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44834 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRecentchanges.php: Minor code cleanup
[08:40:49] <p0m>	Hola, anyone about?
[08:50:53] <OverlordQ>	p0m: nope
[08:51:18] <p0m>	Darn.
[08:51:27] <p0m>	And I had a really interesting question D:
[08:52:05] <OverlordQ>	just ask and if somebody feels like answering, you'll get a reply :)
[08:54:03] <aja2>	Hello. I've a question about Parser functions. I read in the help that all I could have a parser function called by setting up magicwords and then calling it as in {{abc}}. The mediawiki help says that it will first check to see if it's a magic word
[08:54:32] <aja2>	but when I put this in a page it tells me it's a link to a new template not yet created
[08:54:54] <aja2>	Only by coding in {{#abc:}} can i get it to correctly call the function
[08:56:22] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44835 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevsXML.php: Use Xml functions
[08:56:49] <aja2>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Magic_words
[08:59:14] <p0m>	Fair enough :) I'm looking for an extension (if it exists) that will change the skin depending on namespace.
[09:00:06] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44836 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (3 files): Use Xml functions
[09:03:44] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44837 10/trunk/extensions/Patroller/Patroller.class.php: Use XML functions
[09:08:46] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44838 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Use XML functions here
[09:11:07] <OverlordQ>	p0m: dont think one exists, afaik
[09:11:24] <OverlordQ>	aja2: where did you define the magic word?
[09:12:39] <p0m>	OverlordQ, Bugger.
[09:12:50] <p0m>	Ah well, looks like I'm sticking a conditional in the skin then :)
[09:15:16] <aja2>	The magic word was defined as follows:
[09:15:44] <aja2>	$magicWords['Abcde'] = array( 0, 'Abcde' );
[09:15:56] <aja2>	$wgParser->setFunctionHook( 'Abcde', 'ac_render' );
[09:16:35] <aja2>	It ignores the word unless I use the # before it and a : after it.
[09:17:02] <aja2>	When I save the page all I see is            Template:Abcde 
[09:19:12] <OverlordQ>	yea, you're creating a parser function, which are called with {{#foo}}
[09:20:18] <aja2>	one second. Let me try with just the #
[09:21:25] <aja2>	with just the # it outputs      {{#Abcde}}
[09:21:49] <aja2>	when I use "#" at the start and ":" at the end it output the correct text       7
[09:22:38] <aja2>	I remember reading somewhere that I could do without the hash if I set a flag but can't see where there is a requirement to always add the ":"
[09:23:29] <aja2>	Maybe something changed with new releases. All of this is based on an example in a book where they coded {{abcde}} and it worked. 
[09:33:03] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44839 10/trunk/extensions/ (45 files in 35 dirs): Search & replace war on old wf* xml functions
[09:54:55] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44840 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.func.php: Add profile calls
[11:11:21] <S-i-A>	hi all
[11:11:55] <S-i-A>	any way to include last article title in another page, but of same domain and host?
[11:24:01] <S-i-A>	any idea?
[11:25:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) extra closing tag with transcluded empty Special: Newpages screws up page coherence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[11:27:37] <hausgeist>	moin
[11:43:27] <CIA-8>	03rotem * r44841 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReview.i18n.php: Localization update for he.
[12:15:17] <S-i-A>	can i disable how many time changed before in Article footer?
[12:17:18] <S-i-A>	i will disable this line for all my visitors "This page has been accessed XX times" 
[12:17:49] <Wuzur>	$wgDisableCounters = true; into you LocalSettings.php
[12:18:28] <S-i-A>	Wuzur: thanks
[12:28:29] <doos>	hi
[12:28:39] <Wuzur>	hi doos
[12:29:48] <doos>	I have a design question .. the user create form on my wiki has some extra form fields that are e-mailed to an admin. Now we want that information to be stored on the wiki as well (as an overview, only seen by sysops)
[12:29:57] <doos>	how would you go about handling that?
[12:30:01] <doos>	hi Wuzur 
[12:30:54] <Wuzur>	Storing Information just for some users is a little bit creepy...
[12:31:39] <Wuzur>	MW is not designed to do that, well there are some extensions which allow such things but it's not recommend to use them
[12:31:53] <doos>	well we have additional membership groups, it is just their business name, website etc
[12:32:06] <doos>	I know
[12:32:28] <doos>	have been looking for an extension, but nothing useful popped up
[12:32:42] <Wuzur>	!e Lockdown | doos
[12:32:42] --mwbot--	doos: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown
[12:32:46] <doos>	ty
[12:40:18] <Platonides>	doos, it depends on how those extra fields are added
[12:40:38] <Platonides>	you probably want to store those data into an extra column on the user table
[12:40:45] <doos>	Platonides, through the customeusercreate extension
[12:40:48] <Platonides>	and add a Special: page for sysops to check them
[12:41:24] <Platonides>	I don't know that extension
[12:41:41] <doos>	customUserCreateForm sorry
[12:42:40] <Platonides>	you'd need to extend it
[12:42:59] <doos>	I was also thinking of sending the data to the a flat database outside the wiki
[12:43:24] <doos>	or a mysql one
[12:43:36] <Platonides>	as you see
[12:43:44] <Wuzur>	which would be the best idea in my eyes
[12:43:45] <Platonides>	I think it's better to store on the same wiki db
[12:43:58] <Platonides>	as an extra field for user table
[12:44:09] <doos>	I'm scared fiddling with the user tables
[12:44:45] <doos>	is there a howto on that?
[12:45:28] <Platonides>	http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/378/add-a-column-to-an-existing-mysql-table/
[12:45:40] <doos>	ty
[12:51:57] <doos>	while that page is loading, could I post direct from the core (SpecialUserlogin.php) to a special page?
[13:04:33] <CIA-8>	03raymond * r44842 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[13:04:33] <CIA-8>	* Add description message
[13:04:33] <CIA-8>	* Add extension to Translatewiki
[13:31:27] <CIA-8>	03raymond * r44843 10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
[13:31:27] <CIA-8>	* Add description and rights messages
[13:31:27] <CIA-8>	* Add special page group
[13:31:27] <CIA-8>	* Add to Translatewiki
[13:31:27] <CIA-8>	* Tweaks to German translation
[13:37:08] <CIA-8>	03raymond * r44844 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUserrights/GlobalUserrights.i18n.php: typo
[13:40:26] <CIA-8>	03raymond * r44845 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: typo
[13:44:46] <CIA-8>	03raymond * r44846 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: another typo :/
[14:55:06] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) rename process problem on pl.wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16721 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Renameuser; (danny.leinad)
[15:08:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add id to special page links for categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16722 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[15:16:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Specify timezones by location, to allow automatic adjustments of timeoffset and daylight saving time (DST ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[15:27:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Some file name in SVN is not valid for Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16723 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Subversion; (Eugene.Zelenko)
[15:36:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Some file name in SVN is not valid for Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16723  (10sam)
[15:36:18] <Reedy>	^thats invalid unless its some other file...
[15:54:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) rename process problem on pl.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16721  15enhancement->normal;  +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[15:59:17] <CIA-8>	03ialex * r44847 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.obj.php: 
[15:59:17] <CIA-8>	Changed behaviour of EXT_CONFIGURE_NO_EXTRACT constant (defined for manage.php maintenance script), will now not load current config rather that not extracting settings.
[15:59:17] <CIA-8>	This is useful for people (like me) defining custom vars in $wgConf->settings to avoid lot of E_NOTICEs
[16:05:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) exclamation mark on RC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16724 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (danny.leinad)
[16:22:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Interwiki link "rs:" to point to Serbian Wikimedia chapter website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16725 04CRIT; normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (marcin.cieslak)
[16:49:42] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Interwiki link "rs:" to point to Serbian Wikimedia chapter website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16725  +comment (10danny.b)
[16:52:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki link "rs:" to point to Serbian Wikimedia chapter website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16725  (10danny.b)
[16:55:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Some file name in SVN is not valid for Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16723  (10Eugene.Zelenko)
[16:56:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki link "rs:" to point to Serbian Wikimedia chapter website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16725  +comment (10Gerard.meijssen)
[17:38:19] <kju>	hi
[17:47:53] <jelle>	pong
[18:21:12] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44849 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (4 files): Tweaks mainly from profiling
[18:24:27] <CIA-8>	03siebrand * r44850 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesTl.php: Localisation updates. Import from tl.wikipedia.org.
[18:33:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add id to special page links for categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16722  (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:38:59] <MZMcBride>	I have a question.
[18:39:17] <Splarka>	!askhole | MZMcBride
[18:39:21] <MZMcBride>	What is the point of move-rootuserpages if assign it by default to all users?
[18:39:21] <MZMcBride>	+we
[18:39:54] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44851 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: (bug 16722) Add id to special page links for categories
[18:39:54] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add id to special page links for categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16722  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:39:54] <Splarka>	how Wikimedia centric of you
[18:41:05] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44852 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Typo
[18:41:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) exclamation mark on RC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16724  (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:44:17] <MZMcBride>	Splarka: It should at least give a warning or something. ("Note: This is not how you rename yourself.")
[18:44:31] <MZMcBride>	Actually......
[18:44:47] <MZMcBride>	That would be easy to implement in JS.
[18:45:20] <Splarka>	'twood
[18:46:04] <MZMcBride>	I think a simple <div id="user-move-warning"></div> would be best for the MediaWiki message.
[18:46:16] <MZMcBride>	And then just have it place a template there.
[18:46:27] <Danny_B>	mw-user-move-warning
[18:46:41] <Danny_B>	al user interface ids should be prefixed with mw-
[18:46:45] <MZMcBride>	I meant for en.wiki, but yes, sure. :-)
[18:47:08] <MZMcBride>	I usually pick whatever I want for site-specific hacks. But no harm in adding mw-.
[18:47:38] <Splarka>	mw-user-stab-MZM
[18:48:01] <Splarka>	mw-user-dig-hole-hide-body
[18:48:01] <MZMcBride>	What'd I do? 
[18:48:07] <Splarka>	wasn't editnotice enough evil for one lifetime?
[18:48:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Some file name in SVN is not valid for Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16723  (10sam)
[18:48:38] <MZMcBride>	Splarka: A simple <div> doesn't pollute message cache.
[18:48:52] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Some file name in SVN is not valid for Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16723  (10sam)
[18:48:55] <MZMcBride>	JS insertion doesn't either, no?
[18:50:22] <Splarka>	there are many paths to the dark side, besides message cache pollution
[18:51:08] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44853 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.obj.php: Performance tweak
[18:51:50] <MZMcBride>	Bah.
[18:53:40] <ialex>	aaron isn't here?
[18:56:56] <CIA-8>	03siebrand * r44854 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesTl.php: Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki
[19:00:12] <CIA-8>	03pinky * r44855 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUserrights/GlobalUserrights.php: Removing svn-date and svn-revision params from GlobalUserrights - kind of useless because there's a version param and so they don't show up in special:version anyways
[19:01:55] <CIA-8>	03pinky * r44856 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUserrights/GlobalUserrights.php: Delete svn:keywords prop instead of just blanking
[19:22:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) exclamation mark on RC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16724  (10danny.leinad)
[19:31:15] <CIA-8>	03ashley * r44857 10/trunk/extensions/MultiUpload/ (4 files): 
[19:31:22] <CIA-8>	MultiUpload:
[19:31:22] <CIA-8>	*split up the classes and setup file
[19:31:22] <CIA-8>	*doxygen tweaks
[19:31:22] <CIA-8>	*move javascript to its own file
[19:31:22] <CIA-8>	*make license selector work
[19:31:22] <CIA-8>	*coding style tweaks
[19:43:00] <jurtti>	where the php.ini should be located at?
[20:00:21] <CIA-8>	03catrope * r44858 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiParse.php: 
[20:00:29] <CIA-8>	API: Fixing issue mentioned on bug 16129 comment #3: for certain inputs,
[20:00:30] <CIA-8>	action=parse dies with an internal error whining about $wgTitle not being set in
[20:00:31] <CIA-8>	OutputPage::parse(). This commit works around this by setting $wgTitle, but the
[20:00:31] <CIA-8>	parser and its friends should really leave $wgTitle alone, because people might
[20:00:34] <CIA-8>	want to parse non-$wgTitle titles, which the Parser::parse() docs suggest is
[20:00:34] <CIA-8>	possible (and it should be), but apparently isn't.
[20:01:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) extra closing tag with transcluded empty Special: Newpages screws up page coherence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  (10roan.kattouw)
[20:02:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Classes like Parser and EditPage should use $mTitle member rather than $wgTitle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12710  (10roan.kattouw)
[20:02:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Classes like Parser and EditPage should use $mTitle member rather than $wgTitle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12710  (10roan.kattouw)
[20:18:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278  (10paul.copperman)
[20:18:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278   +need-review +patch (10paul.copperman)
[20:23:42] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) API: siprop= namespacealiases should also show aliases of $wgContLang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16726 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (paul.copperman)
[20:32:02] <Splarka>	RoanKattouw: per {{Special:Newpages}} I didn't really mean it as an API bug, I knew it wasn't the API fault, it was just a really weird failure
[20:32:28] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: I know. I took the opportunity to rant some more in the commit message and on the relevant bug
[20:32:34] <Splarka>	RoanKattouw: any idea about the rest of the bug? is the null title causing parser tags and some html to fail?
[20:32:35] <Splarka>	heh
[20:32:45] <Splarka>	mmm, rant
[20:32:55] <RoanKattouw>	Could be, the Parser's evil as hell, so I guess only Tim knows
[20:33:13] <RoanKattouw>	See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/44858 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129
[20:33:26] <RoanKattouw>	Oops, wrong bug #
[20:33:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) FlaggedRevs: Add option to Special: UnreviewedPages to show redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16727 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (paul.copperman)
[20:34:05] <RoanKattouw>	!b 12710
[20:34:05] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12710
[20:34:06] *Splarka 	clooks
[20:34:06] *RoanKattouw 	eats CIA-8
[20:34:06] *CIA-8 	tastes crunchy
[20:34:09] <RoanKattouw>	Oh wrong one
[20:34:31] <RoanKattouw>	Ah
[20:34:44] <Splarka>	laggy bots
[20:34:55] <RoanKattouw>	Laggy Toolserver
[20:34:55] <Splarka>	so,hmm
[20:35:00] <Splarka>	how come http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&text=%7B%7BSpecial%3ANewpages%7D%7D  that works..
[20:35:12] <Splarka>	does empty transcluded Newpages ruin the wgTitle?
[20:35:16] <RoanKattouw>	And what doesn't?
[20:35:26] <Splarka>	if {{Special:Newpages}} has no results
[20:35:36] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: Absolutely no idea. If you're interested in this bug, do the following:
[20:35:39] <Splarka>	either from overly exclusive parameters or nothing on the recent changes
[20:35:52] <Splarka>	1) bug tim
[20:35:53] <RoanKattouw>	In ApiParse.php, add $wgTitle = new FakeTitle; right before the $wgParser->parse() call
[20:35:55] <Splarka>	2) bug time more
[20:36:01] <Splarka>	^tim
[20:36:08] <RoanKattouw>	Then run the thingy that fails and you should get a backtrace
[20:36:17] <RoanKattouw>	the second something somewhere uses $wgTitle
[20:36:17] <Splarka>	I don't have an install, I am client ^_^
[20:36:23] <Splarka>	hmm
[20:36:38] *RoanKattouw 	sighs
[20:36:38] <RoanKattouw>	Get one then ;)
[20:36:39] *Splarka 	pokes things until they break
[20:36:44] <Splarka>	hmm
[20:38:49] <Splarka>	<nowiki>foo</nowiki>{{Special:Recentchanges/0}}  works...
[20:40:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278  -need-review -patch ; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[20:40:07] <Splarka>	newimages can't be cheated... only takes a >0 limit parameter
[20:40:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278   +need-review +patch (10roan.kattouw)
[20:40:25] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: So try it on a local install with no new images
[20:40:40] <RoanKattouw>	(Oh right, you don't have one ^^)
[20:40:40] *Splarka 	tries wiktionary
[20:40:46] <RoanKattouw>	Good idea
[20:41:26] <Splarka>	damn, doesn't use the RC table
[20:41:27] *Splarka 	looks for a wiki with none at all
[20:41:27] <Splarka>	am.wiktionary
[20:41:34] <RoanKattouw>	The Wikimania 2008 wiki?
[20:41:45] *Splarka 	checked images_missing_2008-10-19.txt
[20:41:48] <Splarka>	aha
[20:41:50] <Splarka>	same prob
[20:42:01] <Splarka>	UNIQ6ebd5f966a9ab67-nowiki-00000001-QINU with <nowiki>foo</nowiki>{{Special:Newimages}}
[20:42:14] <RoanKattouw>	Right
[20:42:25] <Splarka>	so it is something in those two...
[20:42:39] <RoanKattouw>	So an empty Special:NewFoo transclusion fucks up strip marks?
[20:42:41] <Splarka>	$wgOut->addWikiMsg( 'noimages' );
[20:42:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) problems with forced PNG rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15057  (10debjanux)
[20:42:49] <Splarka>	$wgOut->addWikiMsg( 'specialpage-empty' );
[20:42:56] <Splarka>	those are the only things in common
[20:43:02] <Splarka>	addWikiMsg doesn't seem to be used inline very often
[20:43:07] <RoanKattouw>	Gotta be something else
[20:43:09] <Splarka>	mostly for Special: pages
[20:43:15] <Splarka>	maybe it fucks up wgTitle and no one noticed before
[20:43:32] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: Try to run the same wikicode through action=expandtemplates, that'll just preprocess
[20:43:41] <Splarka>	I did, they don't transclude
[20:43:47] <RoanKattouw>	IIRC that doesn't parse <nowiki>
[20:43:50] <RoanKattouw>	?
[20:43:50] <Splarka>	er, on Special:ExpandTemplates
[20:43:55] <Splarka>	didn't try the api
[20:43:56] <Splarka>	sec
[20:45:00] <Splarka>	http://am.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%88%8D%E1%8B%A9:ExpandTemplates?contexttitle=&input=%3Cpre%3Efoo%3C%2Fpre%3E%7B%7BSpecial%3ANewimages%7D%7D%0D%0A%3Cpre%3Efoo%3C%2Fpre%3E%7B%7BSpecial%3ANewPages%2Foffset%3D-1%7D%7D&removecomments=1&generate_xml=1
[20:45:14] <Tubarao>	does MediaWiki:Mainpage/<language> localization work in the Sidebar?
[20:45:36] <Splarka>	Tubarao: by default the links are not localized, but the text of the links are
[20:45:51] <Splarka>	so **mainpage|mainpage -> [[Main_Page|TRANSLATION]]
[20:46:17] <Splarka>	this is because most projects don't need 185 main pages
[20:46:21] <Splarka>	(the links are only translated to the content language, not user language)
[20:46:24] <Tubarao>	mm.. ok... we have one that needs 3.. :)
[20:46:38] <Splarka>	then you want to use the magic word
[20:46:44] <Tubarao>	please? ;)
[20:46:58] *Splarka 	is looking
[20:47:00] <Tubarao>	no.wikimedia.org
[20:47:01] <Splarka>	forceUI something..
[20:47:07] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg
[20:48:39] <Tubarao>	hmm..
[20:48:40] <Splarka>	request it at bugzilla
[20:48:40] <Tubarao>	mmmkay..
[20:48:40] <Splarka>	but, don't do...  **mainpage|mainpage
[20:48:40] <Splarka>	that will give you 180+ main pages
[20:48:40] <Splarka>	you'll want to do something like **mainpage-url|mainpage
[20:48:40] <Splarka>	and then create mainpage-url/xx for each language you will want
[20:48:40] <Tubarao>	we have **mainpage|mainpage-description (as default) now.. :)
[20:48:40] <Splarka>	(and of course, the fallback at the root there)
[20:49:10] <Splarka>	so for example; [[MediaWiki:mainpage-url]] with contents of whatever Mainpage is, and [[MediaWiki:mainpage-url/sv]] with 'Bork Bork', and [[MediaWiki:mainpage-url/fi]] with 'Hjel������������������������'
[20:49:44] <Tubarao>	k. thanks..
[20:49:51] <Splarka>	Tubarao: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16701  here is the request meta did, just a few days ago, for same
[20:49:53] <Splarka>	copy off them
[20:50:37] <Splarka>	RoanKattouw: sorry, where were we
[20:50:58] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: np. You were gonna try the API action=expandtemplates
[20:51:14] <Splarka>	http://am.wiktionary.org/w/api.php?action=expandtemplates&text=%3Cpre%3Efoo%3C%2Fpre%3E%7B%7BSpecial%3ANewimages%7D%7D%0D%0A%3Cpre%3Efoo%3C%2Fpre%3E%7B%7BSpecial%3ANewPages%2Foffset%3D-1%7D%7D
[20:51:24] <Splarka>	as per the Special:ExpandTemplates, it does nothing to transcluded special page
[20:51:39] <RoanKattouw>	Right, just a link
[20:51:54] <Splarka>	not sure why, dev oversight probably
[20:52:25] <RoanKattouw>	Same results on enwiki and enwiki
[20:52:31] <RoanKattouw>	*enwikt
[20:53:23] <Splarka>	so.. how could addWikiMsg possibly break where addHTML didn't...
[20:53:44] <Splarka>	since it is just a wrapper for a wrapper for it
[20:55:19] *Splarka 	hrmms
[20:55:27] *Splarka 	renames the bug a bit
[20:59:20] <CIA-8>	03ialex * r44859 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Interwiki.php: Use $wgInterwikiExpiry to set the expiry time of interwiki cache
[20:59:51] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: Where's that rename?
[21:00:09] <Splarka>	adding a comment too
[21:00:11] <RoanKattouw>	Ah
[21:00:12] <Splarka>	"transcluded Special:Newpages and Special:Newimages screw up parser extension tags and html when returning zero results"
[21:00:12] <Splarka>	sound good?
[21:00:28] <RoanKattouw>	Maybe "screw up strip marks"?
[21:00:40] <RoanKattouw>	Or "expose strip marks"
[21:00:51] <RoanKattouw>	Cause that's what those UNIQ-...-QINU thingies are called
[21:01:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278  (10paul.copperman)
[21:01:30] <Splarka>	k
[21:03:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Transcluded Special:Newpages and Special: Newimages expose strip markers and desanitize html when returning zero results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  summary; +comment (10herd)
[21:07:00] *Splarka 	runs blame
[21:10:20] <Splarka>	hmm, does the same in 1.13
[21:14:33] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) CodeReview shows an incorrect number of notes when doing a path search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16728 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (redwwjd)
[21:16:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Transcluded Special:Newpages and Special: Newimages expose strip markers and desanitize html when returning zero results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  (10matthew.britton)
[21:21:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278  (10paul.copperman)
[21:40:39] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Automatic account creations (SUL) are not reported on irc RC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14650  +comment (10matthew.britton)
[21:45:04] <UltimateArco>	need help
[21:45:08] <RoanKattouw>	!ask
[21:45:08] --mwbot--	Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[21:45:16] <UltimateArco>	is there any admin control panel?
[21:45:29] <RoanKattouw>	No
[21:45:39] <UltimateArco>	how to edit things then?
[21:45:45] <RoanKattouw>	Certain special pages are off limits to non-sysops though
[21:45:50] <RoanKattouw>	Edit what? Settings?
[21:45:57] <ialex>	UltimateArco: LocalSettings.php
[21:45:57] <UltimateArco>	yeah
[21:45:57] <UltimateArco>	thanks
[21:45:59] <RoanKattouw>	!localsettings
[21:45:59] --mwbot--	All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_MediaWiki>, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php>, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Config_script>, and <http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf>
[21:46:14] <ialex>	or you can try
[21:46:17] <UltimateArco>	not found
[21:46:26] <ialex>	!e Configure | UltimateArco
[21:46:26] --mwbot--	UltimateArco: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Configure
[21:46:26] <UltimateArco>	not douns
[21:46:28] <UltimateArco>	found*
[21:46:39] <UltimateArco>	ty
[21:46:40] <gurch>	RoanKattouw: just FYI the link in mwbot's first message there is broken. http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc works
[21:46:41] <RoanKattouw>	UltimateArco: Which one?
[21:46:50] <RoanKattouw>	Ah
[21:47:00] <UltimateArco>	nvm its with capitals
[21:47:04] <UltimateArco>	Internal Server Error
[21:47:10] <UltimateArco>	-_-
[21:47:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[21:47:32] <UltimateArco>	its not a bug
[21:47:43] <UltimateArco>	how do i fix the internal server error (500)
[21:47:55] <RoanKattouw>	UltimateArco: When do you get it?
[21:48:04] <UltimateArco>	when accessing LocalSettings.php
[21:48:16] <RoanKattouw>	You have to *edit* LocalSettings.php, not visit it
[21:48:24] <UltimateArco>	OHHHH
[21:48:26] <UltimateArco>	THANKS
[21:49:25] *UltimateArco[A] 	is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 1 minutes
[21:49:42] <uberfuzzy>	whats the permission called for move without redirect ?
[21:49:49] <RoanKattouw>	suppressredirect
[21:49:56] *UltimateArco 	is no longer away : Gone for 1 minute 30 seconds
[21:50:07] <UltimateArco>	-_-
[21:50:07] <uberfuzzy>	thanks
[21:50:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278  (10roan.kattouw)
[21:50:56] *UltimateArco[A] 	is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 1 minutes
[21:51:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) no.wikimedia settings - main page in user lang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16729 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (stigmj)
[22:01:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) list cascading-protected pages with API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16730 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[22:33:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add id to special page links for categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16722  (10umherirrender_de.wp)
[22:47:23] <jurtti>	If going to index.php by browser the page cannot be loaded and the browser gives a error message, what could be wrong? This has happened only after I've made install and config
[22:47:44] <RoanKattouw>	What's the error message?
[22:49:04] <jurtti>	umm. unfortunately I use a foreign language mozilla but it's about forming/making a connection to the address of the wiki
[22:49:28] <RoanKattouw>	Then something's wrong with your setup, not a wiki problem
[22:49:41] <jurtti>	the index.php or LocalSettings or something adds a 8080-digit after the server on address line
[22:50:06] <RoanKattouw>	jurtti: $wgArticlePath
[22:51:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki code for mzn wikipedia is wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11457  +comment (10siebrand)
[22:53:53] <jurtti>	RoanKattouw: it equals $wgScript/$1 which equals $wgScriptPath/index.php
[22:54:50] <jurtti>	RoanKattouw: $wgScriptPath equals /tyyala/vare/wiki. I have admins only for /vare
[22:55:18] <RoanKattouw>	jurtti: $wgServer ?
[22:58:34] <jurtti>	RoanKattouw: there seems not to be that in my LocalSettings
[23:01:54] <jurtti>	RoanKattouw: should there be?
[23:02:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Categories should use (cont.) when breaking a letter' s entries over to the next page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16731 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (Jason_quinn)
[23:08:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create a channel on Wikimedia IRC that logs newly created/ unified accounts on all wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15276  +comment (10Platonides)
[23:09:35] <jurtti>	RoanKattouw: by adding the server bit only makes it to give a notice that the requested object is "Not Found"
[23:11:02] <jurtti>	But what does to 8080 "do" in the address? Should that particular thing be something different and how it's done?
[23:11:39] <Platonides>	jurtti, I think that's the server port
[23:11:52] <Platonides>	are you running the server on port 8080 instead of 80?
[23:12:28] <jurtti>	i guess, because my wordpress platform uses the same one?
[23:13:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Subcategory paging is not separate from article or image paging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1211  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:14:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Categories need to be structured by namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:15:43] <jurtti>	Platonides: err... actually it seems so that wp has been configured to use 80. but changing that to the wiki address doesn't make any difference
[23:17:08] <jurtti>	Platonides: now it slings me directly to Not found and changes the address to look like "normal" one without the port number
[23:20:29] <CIA-8>	03catrope * r44860 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQuerySiteinfo.php): API: (bug 16726) siprop=namespacealiases should also list localized aliases
[23:20:47] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) API: siprop= namespacealiases should also show aliases of $wgContLang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16726  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[23:30:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Accesskeys conflict with browser keyboard shortcuts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:40:08] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) API: siprop= namespacealiases should also show aliases of $wgContLang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16726  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[23:40:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Unicode combining characters are difficult to edit in some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16697  04BLOCKER->major; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:42:17] <Simetrical>	How about we remove the priority field and change severity options to something like "enhancement/bug/critical"?  (And possibly treat critical bugs as critical.)
[23:42:33] <Simetrical>	There's probably never been a legitimate use of "blocker" in the history of our Bugzilla.
[23:43:00] <Splarka>	bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_severity=blocker
[23:44:11] <Splarka>	the problem is, deciding what things being blocked constitutes a blocker
[23:45:22] <Simetrical>	Blockers don't exist in MediaWiki.
[23:45:30] <Simetrical>	We don't have release cycles, there's nothing to block.
[23:46:13] <|X|>	Doesn't blocker mean that something it preventing total use of MW?
[23:47:48] <Splarka>	I guess even something slowly corrupting the database on every edit wouldn't really be a 'blocker'
[23:48:03] <Splarka>	just really critical
[23:48:03] <Simetrical>	|X|, let's find out!  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity
[23:48:03] <Simetrical>	"Blocker  	Blocks development and/or testing work"
[23:48:08] <|X|>	Oh. :)
[23:48:21] <Splarka>	hell
[23:48:26] <Splarka>	all my feature request bugs are blockers
[23:48:34] *Splarka 	goes to adjust
[23:49:05] <CIA-8>	03aaron * r44861 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Refactoring for bug 16278
[23:49:33] <CIA-8>	03catrope * r44862 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQuerySiteinfo.php: Fix up r44860, use $wgContLang instead.
[23:49:37] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) API: siprop= namespacealiases should also show aliases of $wgContLang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16726  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[23:50:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevisions extension: API "sighting" of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16278  (10JSchulz_4587)
[23:54:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Unicode combining characters are difficult to edit in some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16697  (10Gerard.meijssen)
[23:54:16] <CIA-8>	03catrope * r44863 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryAllpages.php): API: (bug 16730) Added apprfiltercascade parameter to list=allpages to filter cascade-protected pages
[23:54:34] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) list cascading-protected pages with API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16730  +comment (10roan.kattouw)