and I'm done?! [02:51:06] Splarka, re: Google search results for page boilerplate: as with so many things Google doesn't want to trust what you tell it about pages even if it would help search results, presumably because SEO black hats will abuse it :-( [02:54:37] as stated in the bug, it isn't all about the google [02:55:36] but yes, .noprint is what you want [02:55:48] er class="noprint" as per commonPrint.css [02:56:15] you can see it working with printable=yes [03:27:27] hi Splarka [03:30:03] 03ipye * r44886 10/trunk/extensions/WikiTrust/ (13 files in 6 dirs): Merge branch 'ian-luca' [03:36:56] hi any one here can help me with some css? [03:46:55] how to view teh css of mediawiki through browser [04:20:37] r0ny, best thing to do is install the WebDeveloper toolbar for Firefox [04:21:00] then [04:21:32] firebug is handy too [04:22:01] so taht i can easily edit cdss? [04:22:03] css [04:26:24] 03dale * r44888 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/ (5 files in 5 dirs): improved resource import, style fixes [04:39:32] r0ny: try #css [04:41:32] r0ny, WebDeveloper gives you good views of the css document and also lets you edit them [04:41:43] i will try that [04:41:59] FireBug can show you what rules apply to individual elements [04:42:25] And lets you modify them, but not like editing the actual document [04:42:33] i see [04:43:19] FireBug is good for inspecting things, finding out issues, and making some tests. And WebDeveloper is good for editing the CSS itself [04:43:25] +as a document [04:43:43] Though of course, both extension offer much more features than just those [04:44:27] excellent [04:44:29] thanks a lot [05:17:51] hi folks [05:18:14] uhmm, can anyone help me out with a script to use the mediawiki API? [06:43:56] 03aaron * r44889 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Enable hook only as needed [07:04:48] 03aaron * r44890 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.obj.php: Revert r44853 per codereview [07:26:50] 03aaron * r44891 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (4 files): Cut way down on profile time by delaying isInstalled() checks [07:36:09] 03aaron * r44892 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Avoid extra page_touched query [08:08:52] 03(mod) Add "diff to last sighted version" to recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16489 (10pgrawehr) [09:08:18] 03aaron * r44893 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Tweaks from profiling [09:08:46] Is it possible to create a variadic template using MediaWiki? [09:08:58] Or does it have to be a fixed number of parameters? [09:14:38] variadic? [09:14:46] Variable arguments [09:15:28] Akin to C's ... vararg notation. [09:15:32] you mean like If statements ect? [09:17:42] try [09:17:49] !e ParserFunctions | MrGrinch [09:17:49] --mwbot-- MrGrinch: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions [09:18:14] and this explains what it can do http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions [09:18:41] MrGrinch: you have no way to point to those extra arguments [09:19:20] The way C deals with the preprocessors vararg construct is to do something like #define BLAH(format,...) printf(format, __VA_ARGS__); [09:22:32] in other words, it doesn't :) [09:24:38] Nikerabbit: Hrm, well should be fun trying to hack in support for such a thing :) [09:25:09] Maybe I can get MediaWiki to just use M4, though that might be overkill. [09:26:34] ugh [09:26:45] or not, it is not a programming language [09:27:01] Which makes me sad. [09:27:28] The very existence of ParserFunctions suggests it wants to be a programming language. [09:29:20] it doesn't have it own will, but common sense says that it should not be a programming language [09:29:54] Power-users demand their toys! [09:31:35] power users know that they don't want such a broken toy [09:31:39] haha [09:31:53] You know looking at the more complicated templates - that's very true. [09:32:12] The syntax makes Perl look elegant. [09:33:54] now, I would like to see the proposed embedded lua alternative to see some light [09:39:03] im trying to change my wiki database collation from latin to utf [09:39:13] ALTER DATABASE `asianmediawiki1` DEFAULT CHARACTER SET utf8 COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci; [09:39:13] Query OK, 1 row affected (0.02 sec) [09:39:30] that changed the database...but it seems the tables inside the database are still using latin [09:39:42] would someone know how to change the tables from latin to utf? [09:48:38] luna6: why would you do that? [09:49:12] you probably should not do that [09:56:56] bah, I'm leaving [09:58:16] hey because im getting weird errors [09:58:22] my wiki uses a lot of special characters [09:58:35] like here -- http://asianmediawiki.com/Tadanobu_Asano [09:58:43] shows "A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: [09:58:44] (SQL query hidden) [09:58:44] from within function "Parser::replaceLinkHolders". MySQL returned error "1271: Illegal mix of collations for operation ' IN ' (amw.asianmediawiki.com)". [09:58:44] Retrieved from "http://asianmediawiki.com/Tadanobu_Asano" [09:58:44] " [09:59:03] See ya Nikerabbit [09:59:10] luna6: before or after? [09:59:12] i think its because the wiki is using latin....before i changed webhosts i believe it used utf [09:59:19] before [09:59:40] i noticed that error after april (when i changed webhosts) and now noticed it is using latin [10:00:01] it is a not good idea to go fiddling around things [10:00:23] if you installed using the default scheme, it should say latin1 [10:01:11] odd thing i imported the database locally onto a lamp server on my computer using utf and that wiki page displays fine without that error [10:02:02] 03(NEW) Making arbitrary rows of sortable tables sticky - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16754 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (rene.kijewski) [10:02:12] 03(mod) Support Flash-based upload widget to handle multiple file selection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16753 (10roan.kattouw) [10:02:15] 03(mod) Support multiple file uploads via Special:Upload (backend/ infrastructure) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16751 (10roan.kattouw) [10:04:26] 03(mod) Special:Whatlinkshere does not list transcluded template links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16743 (10roan.kattouw) [10:21:05] 03catrope * r44894 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.api.php: [10:21:05] Configure API: [10:21:05] * Use array_flip() and isset() rather than in_array() [10:21:05] * Use $this->getModuleName() rather than hardcoding 'configure' all over the place [10:21:05] * Fix weird indentation in getAllowedParams() [10:21:07] * It would be nice if this module threw a warning rather than an error when the user lacks permissions for one prop, so other props are unaffected [10:32:43] 03siebrand * r44895 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (6 files): Localisation updates from Betawiki [10:39:59] is anybody aware of a template for hosts i could steal? i.e. FQDN, ipv4, services running, etc? [10:41:50] RichiH: sorry, don't know what you're talking about [10:42:22] TimStarling: i am wondering if there is a repository for templates [10:42:34] i need a template for host information for our internal wiki [10:43:22] as i assume that wikimedia manages information about their servers at least partially with mediawiki, i hope there is a nice template for hosts [10:45:58] RichiH, like wikitech? [10:46:03] you mean like https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/Db10 ? [10:46:31] you probably don't want to use that one, someone's been messing it up with pretty pictures [10:46:46] sysadmin databases are meant to look grungy [10:46:55] yah, that's pretty nice [10:47:07] https://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/Template:Server for that [10:47:37] thanks [10:47:42] You'll need the ! template too.. [10:47:52] k [10:48:24] https://wikitech.leuksman.com/edit/Template:! is empty [10:48:48] no, it just contains a | [10:49:48] oh, duh [10:49:53] *RichiH blind [10:50:02] :) [10:50:06] why use a template to include a pipe? [10:50:26] because MW uses the pipe for everythings... [10:50:46] cause in some cases, using it directly causes stuff to not work as expected [10:50:47] so it would disturb other functions if you use it directly in this case [10:50:56] ^ [10:51:51] kk [10:52:34] is there a minimum version of mediawiki we need to make this template work? [10:52:47] i fear our version lacks the if construct [10:52:55] Parser functions [10:52:55] don't now but you need parserfunctions [10:52:57] its an extension [10:53:01] !parserfunctions [10:53:01] --mwbot-- "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [10:53:05] ta [10:53:08] !e ParserFunctions | RichiH [10:53:08] --mwbot-- RichiH: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions [10:53:24] brb [11:10:52] Yes, [11:11:04] Can you redirect in MediaWiki? [11:11:14] to another site or just article? [11:11:35] On a mediawiki wiki, to the mediawiki [11:12:07] #REDIRECT[[ARTICLE]] [11:12:36] I want to do it to the MediaWiki's Help:Contents page [11:12:55] [[MediaWiki:Help:Contents]] didn't work [11:13:16] So I tried a url, and that didn't work either [11:13:16] that does not work [11:13:24] take a look http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgEnableScaryTranscluding [11:14:04] .... [11:14:57] Just tell me what to do. [11:17:33] Joeyaa: Set $wgEnableScaryTranscluding=true; in you LocalSetting.php, go to your databse and search for the mw-interwiki entry in the interwiki table and set the iw_trans bit to 1, edit the page and add {{mw:Help:Contents}} [11:25:55] And the name of that page I put that template on would be Help:Contents on our wiki? [11:26:33] yes [11:26:46] or simply any page [11:26:52] Cause it isn't working. [11:27:34] And I did get an error, Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /mnt/local/home/zzaps/englishfreenode.info/LocalSettings.php on line 128 [11:28:07] don't forget the ; at the end of the line I gave you [11:28:34] I don't think we did, I got someone else to do it, can you check for me? [11:28:44] http://www.englishfreenode.info/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges [11:29:21] did you set the iw_trans bit to 1 ? [11:30:00] It should be. Is it? [11:30:35] don't looks like that [11:31:00] Can you change it? Or do you not have that power? [11:31:57] no, I can't I need direct DB-Access [11:32:54] How do you change the set the iw_trans bit to 1 thing? [11:33:40] 03(NEW) Intentional use of multiple DEFAULTSORT blocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16755 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (mr.heat) [11:34:16] Hi. [11:34:23] Can someone help me out with changing this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interwiki_table [11:34:29] I'm in the mysql thing in the shell. [11:34:40] :) [11:34:48] what are you trying to change? [11:34:56] set the iw_trans bit to 1 [11:35:02] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgEnableScaryTranscluding [11:35:04] Reedy ^ [11:35:20] UPDATE interwiki SET (iw_trans = 1) WHERE (iw_trans = 0) [11:35:26] I type that into the terminal? [11:35:30] UPDATE interwiki SET iw_trans = 1 WHERE (iw_trans = 0) [11:35:35] ; [11:35:36] Question, I'm writing up a little template which uses #time from ParserFunctions and I'm wondering if it's in any way possible to create temporary local variables in a template to store values? So not positional/named arguments. [11:35:57] Reedy: So I type: UPDATE interwiki SET iw_trans = 1 WHERE (iw_trans = 0) [11:35:59] zzap, actually, no, dont just run that [11:36:00] Yes? [11:36:04] Ok. :s [11:36:08] What to run, then? [11:36:25] Joeyaa: See what Reedy wrote, do that, just read now along [11:36:40] I was asking for zzap :) [11:36:44] werdnum: PHP Notice: Undefined variable: toolLinks in /var/www/w/includes/specials/SpecialIpblocklist.php on line 451 [11:36:55] You can beat him with big words now. [11:36:59] werdnum: could that be something from r44695 ? [11:37:01] that'd set everything to allow transcluding from other installations [11:37:10] i suppose that wouldnt necesserily be a problem [11:37:14] unless you just wanted it from 1 NS [11:37:36] I want it from a different wiki. [11:37:41] So use?: UPDATE interwiki SET iw_trans = 1 WHERE (iw_trans = 0) [11:37:48] yeah, the query above would enable it for EVERY namespace [11:37:54] no [11:37:54] Ok. [11:37:54] sorry [11:37:57] :P [11:38:00] every IW link [11:38:02] im tired [11:38:07] Joeyaa: Yes? [11:38:20] ... [11:40:22] Is it then {{mw:Help:Contents}} ? [11:41:15] should be AFIAK [11:41:29] Rewrite it. [11:41:53] if you've done the other stuff too.. [11:42:06] I've changed the config file. [11:42:24] So {{mw:Help:Contents}} works? [11:42:47] You try. I don't even know what you're doing. >.< [11:42:57] werdnum: probably not. I think it's r44657. [11:43:16] eh? [11:43:38] Wuzur|rhn, Does it work? [11:43:56] if you set the bit it should [11:44:21] siebrand: how did you know I was about to sign on? [11:44:26] it does not [11:44:36] werdnum: I didn't. [11:44:46] So what do I do? [11:45:05] *Reedy dances [11:45:14] werdnum: anyway, I'm outta here. Maybe you can take a quick look at PHP Notice: Undefined variable: toolLinks in /var/www/w/includes/specials/SpecialIpblocklist.php on line 451 [11:46:09] 03vyznev * r44896 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Linker.php): Add "id" attribute to section anchors, per discussion on wikitech-l. [11:46:10] *werdnum is on holidays. [11:48:03] Joeyaa: Did it work? [11:48:33] Not yet, I'm trying to wake up Wuzer|rhn [11:49:07] Can anyone else help? [11:49:25] did the query say it updated a number of rows > 1? [11:49:31] no [11:49:38] mysql> UPDATE interwiki SET iw_trans = 1 WHERE (iw_trans = 0) [11:49:38] -> [11:52:46] So . . . [11:53:22] Grr, it's like a bunch of zombies here [11:53:39] They're all trying to work out their wikis. [11:53:54] And planning to move to Wikia [11:54:20] TRAITORS! [11:55:31] The database prefix is wiki_ if that makes any difference. [11:55:39] Out of 186 people here, none are availiable [11:55:49] They just like watching us squirm. [11:55:55] They're laughing at their immence knowledge. [11:56:12] I'm inviting people here then [11:58:00] @zzap: try UPDATE `interwiki` SET `iw_trans` = '1' WHERE `i w_trans` = '0' [11:58:03] I will try this. [11:58:17] :) [12:04:12] Try now, Joeyaa. [12:04:12] can i change https://wikitech.leuksman.com/edit/Template:Server in a way that a heading, for example Hardware, will only be displayed if any of its sub-cells are filled? [12:04:29] sure [12:06:19] Joeyaa: Does it work? [12:06:38] No, my comp just froze from too many people saying my name :P [12:07:44] *werdnum pings Joeyaa [12:07:46] werdnum: http://paste.debian.net/24231/ ? [12:07:51] zzap, you need a ; after it [12:07:53] Were not all zombies kthx [12:07:55] to tell it end of command [12:08:07] !e parserfunctions | RichiH [12:08:07] --mwbot-- RichiH: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:parserfunctions [12:08:13] ok, Reedy [12:08:16] we told him earlier ;) [12:08:17] The fuck? p858snake? [12:08:28] ?? [12:08:29] RichiH, you'll just need to put an if round a larger block [12:08:37] 03raymond * r44897 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialIpblocklist.php: [12:08:37] Fix PHP Notice: Undefined variable: toolLinks in /var/www/w/includes/specials/SpecialIpblocklist.php on line 451 [12:08:37] Thanks to Siebrand [12:08:47] RichiH: no, {{{memory|{{{cpu|{{{hdd|}}}}}}}}} [12:08:52] zzap: i'm always in here, duh! [12:08:54] mysql> UPDATE `wiki_interwiki` SET `iw_trans` = '1' WHERE `iw_trans` = '0'; [12:08:55] Query OK, 102 rows affected (0.29 sec) [12:08:55] Rows matched: 102 Changed: 102 Warnings: 0 [12:08:57] p858snake: Why? [12:09:04] Joeyaa: That's what I think I was after. Now try. [12:09:04] zzap, that sounds betterer [12:09:14] zzap: because i run a couple of mediawiki installs? [12:09:21] Oh yay. [12:09:24] Tell me, p858snake... [12:09:28] I was thinking the other day [12:09:34] How's Fetel_Elf or whatever? [12:09:38] She still around? [12:09:41] If {{mw:Help:Contents}} works, then no it isn't [12:09:47] werdnum: eww [12:09:53] zzap: shes was on the other day but i missed here [12:09:55] *her [12:10:03] but OK, i get the syntax [12:10:29] Ah, okay, p858snake. [12:10:30] RichiH: Do you understand why it works? [12:10:54] yes [12:11:19] okay, good-o [12:11:20] hey domas [12:11:45] Joeyaa: What? You're not helping. I'm doing this for you. [12:12:13] I know, I need someone who speaks MEdiaWiki to talk to me [12:12:21] werdnum, are you availiable? [12:12:28] Joeyaa: No, I have a girlfriend. [12:12:43] [[Hi]] [12:13:54] Is this proper: {{mw:Help:Contents}} [12:14:16] to transucate in a page yes [12:14:25] just to link it would be [[]] [12:14:31] Assuming you want to transclude a page with the interwiki prefix 'mw', namespace 'Help', title 'Contents', yes. [12:14:41] 03(mod) CategoryTree: If called on non-existent category, exposes strip markers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16744 +comment (10paul.copperman) [12:14:56] Ok, but then how come it isn't working? [12:15:14] I don't know. [12:15:26] what happens when you type MW:Help:Contents in the search box? [12:15:36] Maybe you should try being more vague, so fewer people can help you... [12:15:43] 03(mod) CategoryTree: If called on non-existent category, exposes strip markers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16744 (10paul.copperman) [12:20:42] is there a browser extension that blackouts all wiki markup making actual text easier to read while editing? [12:21:38] 03(mod) Set $wgRestrictDisplayTitle to False on Chinese Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16427 (10shizhao) [12:21:53] ?? [12:22:12] asoidhgdsg: that would also *break* all markup on edit [12:22:39] asoidhgdsg: nice syntax highlighting would be a good thing to have [12:22:56] WikEd tries to do that, but its all but perfect [12:25:21] is wiked the best option? [12:26:47] 03(mod) Set $wgRestrictDisplayTitle to False on Chinese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16427 high->normal; -easy +shell (10raimond.spekking) [12:31:29] 03tstarling * r44898 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (SearchMySQL.php SearchOracle.php SearchPostgres.php): [12:31:29] Make the SQL search subclasses less nerve-wracking to read, by using makeList() [12:31:29] instead of implode(), addQuotes() instead of strencode(), and by documenting the [12:31:29] fact that parseQuery() is intentionally returning an SQL fragment to be included [12:31:29] into a query without further escaping. No actual vulnerabilities fixed, due to [12:31:33] effective UI-side validation, so this is just to minimise reviewer anxiety. [12:32:58] Joeyaa: I was saying you need to be more specific than "I tried X, but it didn't work" [12:33:13] Joeyaa: Tell us why you think it should work, and what happened instead. [12:33:37] Oh, I thought you may have been listening to me and Wuzur/zzap [12:33:51] Me and zzap are here for the same thing [12:33:58] zzap and I. [12:34:54] !scarytranscluding | Joeyaa [12:34:54] --mwbot-- Joeyaa: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual%3A%24wgEnableScaryTranscluding [12:34:59] General checklist. [12:35:41] We were there, but something is flukey, can you check it? [12:36:31] Joeyaa: I was saying you need to be more specific than "I tried X, but it didn't work" [12:36:37] that's an FAQ [12:36:45] "Something is flukey"? [12:36:57] *Joeyaa is frustrated [12:37:09] TimStarling: The "Trying X" is the original attempt, not an attempt to fix it. [12:37:13] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#I_tried_that_but_it_didn.27t_work [12:37:53] Joeyaa: In general, to use scary transclusion, you need a) An interwiki prefix with iw_trans=1; and b) $wgEnableScaryTranscluding = true; in LocalSettings.php [12:38:11] Can you check to see? [12:38:20] Can I check what to see what? [12:38:24] http://www.englishfreenode.info [12:38:30] If everything is right [12:38:33] No, I can't see your wiki's configuration via the web interface. [12:38:53] *Joeyaa hates MediaWiki [12:39:00] Then use something else :) [12:39:21] Have you checked to see if $wgEnableScaryTranscluding = true; is in your LocalSettings.php? [12:40:05] that's a rubbish feature, no offense to the author [12:40:08] *Joeyaa throws a MediaWiki sheep at zzap [12:40:12] Get back here boy [12:40:17] the fixed cache expiry time is really annoying [12:40:18] Talk to zzap [12:40:34] ? [12:40:41] zzap: trying to be the new Grammar Girl or whom-ever it is? [12:40:52] p858snake: Never. It's for ##english [12:41:03] werdnum: It's enabled in the config already, yes. [12:41:29] Okay, and iw_trans=1 for the 'mw' interwiki prefix, which definitely exists? [12:41:49] you're trying to do interwiki transclude from a wikimedia wiki? [12:42:11] zzap: you enabled $wgEnableScaryTranscluding in the localsettings.php file and nowhere else crazy? [12:42:28] TimStarling: appears so. [12:42:36] werdnum: I don't know if it exists. [12:42:46] I have no idea how to use the terminal for MySQL. [12:42:53] You tell me the command and I'll type them in and tell you the result. [12:42:54] just type in SQL queries. [12:43:12] SELECT iw_trans FROM wiki_interwiki WHERE iw_prefix='mw'\G [12:43:39] http://www.enotes.com/blogs/wikipedia/2008-09/wikipedia-needs-syntax-highlighting/ is this the only option available? [12:43:39] Empty set, werdnum. [12:44:05] zzap: That's probably why it's not working. [12:44:18] How do I fix it, werdnum? :P [12:44:25] SELECT iw_prefix from wiki_interwiki where iw_url like 'http://www.mediawiki.org/%'; [12:44:59] type that in? [12:45:06] yes. [12:45:14] 1 row in set [12:45:16] mediawikiwiki [12:45:22] iw_prefix [12:45:31] hm. [12:45:42] try {{mediawikiwiki:Help:Contents}} [12:45:53] Joeyaa: try {{mediawikiwiki:Help:Contents}} [12:46:42] Aaron will be on in a minute or two. [12:46:47] He just signed into Facebook. [12:47:07] Will Aaron save the day? [12:47:33] 03(NEW) add NS_CATEGORY to $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault on ALL wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16756 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (rainman) [12:48:22] zzap: No. [12:48:29] Why not? :( [12:48:51] I don't know. [12:48:55] Anyway, that should work. [12:49:01] Who's Aaron? [12:49:21] another user in here [12:49:26] the famous singer? [12:49:45] I put {{mediawikiwiki:Help:Contents}} in and the page is just blank [12:51:08] interesting. [12:51:18] TimStarling: Are you guys blocking interwiki transclusion of mediawiki projects? [12:51:21] Oooh, I got "[Template fetch failed for http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Help:Contents?action=raw; sorry] " when I tried subst on it? [12:51:27] probably [12:52:13] wikimedia projects, too. [12:52:22] ... [12:52:40] great [12:52:47] wiked doesn't work with wikidot [12:53:04] their PHP installation is probably blocked by user agent [12:53:46] more recent versions of mediawiki and PHP should send a proper user agent string [12:53:52] but maybe they're using an old one [12:54:03] or maybe they just have the wrong URL [12:54:30] if you want documentation, we have these great things called links [12:54:39] you just click on them and you get to the original source [12:54:45] instead of messing around with proxying [12:54:58] So, what do we do? [12:56:34] eventually I'm going to set up a regular XML export of the MediaWiki help namespace plus templates and images [12:56:35] 03wegge * r44899 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesDa.php: Fixing some typos [12:57:12] maybe with an index file, so we can reference it from the text table without having to copy it in [12:57:46] and then you'll be able to view the help pages from your wiki [12:57:53] but unfortunately I have a few things to do before that [12:58:04] so for now, you should just link to it [12:58:49] TimStarling: like that 'Christmas' thing? [12:59:54] recompression, new installer, master switch script [13:00:21] ooh, a new installer. [13:00:48] you know I committed it to svn a while ago, haven't had any comments though [13:00:58] oh, really? [13:01:05] I hadn't heard. [13:01:15] TimStarling [13:01:17] that's ok, I have no problem working alone [13:01:20] you particularly busy? [13:01:29] TimStarling: like that Template package idea that was getting spread around the in the mailing list? [13:02:04] TimStarling: I'm not sure whether that was supposed to be a resigned sort of comment, but most people need nagging to get comments :) [13:02:10]