if you liked. [18:34:42] I mean, really you can replace all
with

without adding or removing any semantic value. [18:34:55] But the class adds more semantics. [18:35:13] You could then style it inline if you liked without changing the source. [18:37:38] 03siebrand * r45037 10/trunk/extensions/ (135 files in 121 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-12-25 17:54 CET) [18:40:14] 03(NEW) Add $wgDefaultSkinForAnons as a complement to $wgDefaultSkin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16790 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (danny.b) [18:41:28] Simetrical: mmm that's true [18:42:32] Nikerabbit: in your example the equation is emphasized by being standalone on line which means that it is not a part of running text [18:44:45] in fact in the regular book it would be printed as paragraph [18:46:27] maybe visually, but not semantically [18:47:04] *al_tally has installed his first wiki. Plz congratulate me :D [18:47:57] 03ashley * r45038 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: [18:47:57] only call pageStats function in Skin::printFooter if $wgArticle is an object. [18:47:57] this might not always be the case (tested with a custom skin extending the Skin [18:47:57] class) and if so, a fatal error is shown on the page (tested with Special: [18:47:57] pages) and footer won't be rendered [18:49:19] Nikerabbit: well equation itself is semantically not part of running text [18:49:31] imagine more complex equation [18:49:35] say matrix [18:49:50] it's not being read as plain text [18:50:00] it must be treated different way than plaintext [18:50:39] Danny_B: but a sentence can't be split into multiple paragraphs [18:51:11] then you'll use [18:51:44] Danny_B: but the text should autowrap [18:52:12] yes [18:53:35] so far i remember (not saying it's 100% this way) does not behave like

 (no wraps) - if the width of page is smaller than length of text in  it should normally wrap
[19:00:43] 	That's a stylesheet issue.
[19:01:24] 	correct
[19:02:31] 	Nikerabbit: because you can have virtually infinite width of display
[19:02:54] 	I love infinite
[19:03:23] 	it's line by semantic not by presentation
[19:03:55] 	whatever, i guess xhtml2 is unfortunately further than html5
[19:04:09] 	they should join and take the best of both
[19:05:33] 	either the path goes by HTML or XHTML
[19:05:39] 	advancing by both is... odd
[19:06:18] 	03(NEW) move=autoconfirmed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16791 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (cenarium.sysop)
[19:06:28] 	i updated the Polyglot extension and now I have
[19:06:30] 	Warning:  array_keys() [function.array-keys]: The first argument should be an array in /var/www/html/wikilivres.info/mediawiki-1.13.2/extensions/Polyglot/Polyglot.php on line 78
[19:07:03] *Danny_B 	would appreciate if html5 features were in  xhtml2 and xhtml2 was released asap. but it seems nearly dead :-(
[19:08:27] 	line 78 is: $wgPolyglotLanguages = array_keys( $GLOBALS['wgLanguageNames'] );
[19:08:43] 	Nikerabbit: in fact in your case you should wrap the equation in  with display: block
[19:08:50] 	hello, brion 
[19:09:14] 	merry xmas to y'all
[19:09:31] 	Merry Christmas, brion
[19:09:32] 	brion: did you get any new apple product? ;-)
[19:09:46] 	hehe not yet ;)
[19:20:05] 	any idea about my pb please?
[19:34:11] 	03(NEW) Edits of global bots are not autosighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16792 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Ahonc.ua)
[19:38:06] 	14(INVALID) Image not shown in stable versions after move to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16789  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[19:44:56] 	03pinky * r45039 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUserrights/ (GlobalUserrights.php GlobalUserrights_body.php): Minor fix to GlobalUserrights: fixed bug where global rights wouldn't show up in special:listusers if the user only had one right because of a change in SpecialListusers.php (r41350)
[20:11:44] 	03aaron * r45041 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): (bug 16792) Improve global bot handling
[20:11:50] 	03(mod) Don't offer meaningless protection levels (e.g., move= autoconfirmed with moves restricted to autoconfirmed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16791  summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[20:12:24] 	03(FIXED) Edits of global bots are not autosighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16792  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:15:36] 	03(mod) Need a method to refresh category member counts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16765  +comment (10matthew.britton)
[20:25:11] 	03(mod) Save CodeReview diffs to database instead of transitory cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16774  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:29:32] 	03(mod) API and UI limits are inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16781  (10roan.kattouw)
[20:30:37] 	03(mod) HTML codes visible on Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16788  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[20:34:38] 	Hello there
[20:35:13] 	03(mod) API and UI limits are inconsistent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16781  (10matthew.britton)
[20:35:28] 	Is there someone quite skilled to help me to solve a complex issue with ParserFunctions on a highly-used Wikimedia Commons template?
[20:38:27] 	The problem is the following: let's look at a random featured picture, let's say http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Diving_emperor_penguin.jpg
[20:38:44] 	03(mod) Don't offer meaningless protection levels (e.g., move= autoconfirmed with moves restricted to autoconfirmed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16791  +comment (10mrzmanwiki)
[20:39:33] 	Hmm, wait
[21:16:17] 	I'm having a problem with deletion
[21:16:27] 	my wiki won't let me delete
[21:17:14] 	can anyone help
[21:17:22] 	Majorly_, wont as in? permissions wont?
[21:17:24] 	or doesnt delete?
[21:17:45] 	it just doesn't delete. Comes up with an error page. I can protect and move pages, and edit
[21:18:00] 	error page says?
[21:18:11] 	Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
[21:18:11] 	Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
[21:18:11] 	(Can't contact the database server: Unknown error (mysql1.000webhost.com))
[21:18:25] 	1.13.3?
[21:18:38] 	yes, i only created it today
[21:20:35] 	lol
[21:21:19] 	it's annoying...
[21:21:34] 	hmm
[21:22:17] 	Presumably if it was a database permission issue it'd tell you..
[21:25:13] 	anyone else...?
[21:25:50] 	sounds like missing DELETE perms, but i'm unsure of that.
[21:26:14] 	what i was thinking
[21:26:33] 	Majorly_, do you have phpmyadmin or similar?
[21:26:42] 	yes
[21:27:04] 	"Can't contact the database server" doesn't sound like a db permission problem...
[21:27:13] 	sure that only happens when you try to delete?
[21:27:18] 	and always if you try to delete=
[21:27:22] 	have you tried editing?
[21:27:32] 	yes
[21:27:37] 	i also made myself a bot
[21:27:47] 	it may just be that the db is temporarily overloaded and doesn't let you connect because of that
[21:28:18] 	but just for delete?
[21:29:56] 	03(mod) Image not shown in stable versions after move to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16789  (10x00000000)
[21:31:18] 	oh crap
[21:32:29] 	03(NEW) text entered into the log entry should remain when an error is returned - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16793 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (mikelifeguard)
[21:32:55] 	?
[21:33:18] 	i just deleted the page table
[21:33:25] 	\o/
[21:33:57] 	oops
[21:37:38] 	i updated the Polyglot extension and now I have
[21:37:41] 	Warning:  array_keys() [function.array-keys]: The first argument should be an array in /var/www/html/wikilivres.info/mediawiki-1.13.2/extensions/Polyglot/Polyglot.php on line 78
[21:37:44] 	line 78 is: $wgPolyglotLanguages = array_keys( $GLOBALS['wgLanguageNames'] );
[21:37:58] 	I have a little problem with using pretty urls (mod_rewrite). I don't have access to the apache.conf but I can use .htaccess files. However i'am unable to use the Alias statement ... suggestions ?
[21:38:33] 	it goes error 500 ... and the log file tells me ".htaccess: Alias not allowed here"
[21:38:40] 	analog_: if you can't use alias, use rewrite rules.
[21:39:17] 	see the instructions for the preferred method without root access
[21:39:39] 	Duesentrieb: just figured it out reading the apache mod_alias docs :) thanks
[21:40:11] 	how to revert to a previous version of the extension?
[21:40:47] 	These changes are incompatible with MediaWiki versions below 1.13 r32309 <- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Polyglot/Polyglot.php?sortby=rev&r1=45025&view=log
[21:41:13] 	Duesentrieb: thank you, found it :)
[21:42:21] 	yannf: delete, get an older version and install it.
[21:44:40] 	Reedy, I'm starting over...
[21:44:46] 	sounds a good idea
[21:45:15] 	nuke the tables and run the setup script again..
[21:54:34] 	Duesentrieb, I installed Revision 20722 from march 2007, but still the same pb
[21:55:43] 	yannf: so maybe you don't need an older version, but a newer version... except ther eisn't any :) I have not tested the extension with the latest mw.
[21:55:57] 	though i htough it should work with 1.13. not sure about 1.14
[21:56:59] 	Duesentrieb, well, the redirect according to language works but there is an error message
[21:57:50] 	but it seems the pb is elsewhere
[21:58:30] 	the line where there is an error did not change in the old version
[22:03:24] 	Anybody know of any auth plugins to easily share logins among a wikifarm?
[22:03:50] 	CentralAuth?
[22:03:54] 	!centralauth
[22:03:54] --mwbot--	CentralAuth extension allows global/shared accounts between projects.  For more information, see 
[22:04:02] 	(what wmf uses)
[22:04:30] 	saw that, but then there's the big scary 'dont use this or a grue might eat your grandma' warning on it
[22:04:37] 	lol
[22:04:57] 	OverlordQ: use the shared user table thingy.
[22:05:05] 	it's pretty streight forward
[22:05:55] 	only if you're using MySQL
[22:07:15] 	right
[22:07:41] 	well, it *should* also work with PG.
[22:07:46] 	but no ideaif it actually does
[22:08:38] 	It'd be nice, but doesn't
[22:08:57] 	PG doesn't do cross DB queries
[22:16:14] 	ooooo, idea.
[22:18:31] 	is there any problem with me manually updating the current revision of an article using an insert statement?
[22:18:58] 	i need to make a lot of updates and pywikipediabo is sloooooooooooow
[22:19:50] 	that sounds liable to break something in a bad way
[22:26:01] 	aib: Write a quick script using the API?
[22:26:13] 	Manual insertions are nearly certain to break something.
[22:31:07] 	03(NEW) $wgSharedDB PostgreSQL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16794 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (overlordq)
[22:31:08] 	03(mod) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384  (10overlordq)
[22:36:10] 	it has always struck me that MySQL's idea of "databases" pretty much matches PG's schemas
[22:37:43] 	yea
[22:38:11] 	03(mod) Access QueryPage-based special pages via API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14869  (10sam)
[22:41:01] 	Marybelle, thanks for some reason I always overlook the api
[22:44:35] 	but doesn't pywikipediabot use the api nowadays anyway?
[22:45:57] 	hello
[22:46:09] 	can i you your parser to my own website?
[22:47:21] 	aib: Not yet. It's being worked on, slowly.
[22:47:39] 	Chommik: You're free to use any part of MediaWiki as long as you abide by the license.
[22:47:57] 	GNU GPL, am I right?
[22:48:02] 	http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version <-- License for MediaWiki.
[22:48:17] 	(Yes.)
[22:49:21] 	then which files i need to copy to get only parset with e.g '''bold'''
[22:50:29] 	Chommik: Parser.php ?
[22:51:12] 	because in includes/parser there are some other files, do i need it?
[22:52:21] 	Parser.php is in that folder, no?
[22:52:29] 	yes
[22:52:57] 	Then you'll definitely need it. Though I'm not sure why you'd ever want to use MediaWiki's parser. It's a complete mess. ;-)
[22:53:45] 	because i can't find as expanded parser as is in MediaWiki
[22:54:15] 	And syntax is easy to understand
[22:54:21] 	That's true.
[22:54:47] 	But the belly of the beast is an induplicable mess. :P
[22:55:32] 	if I have function such as e.g ParseItToHtml("somestring") it will be good :)
[23:04:12] 	is there any documentation?
[23:05:39] 	hurm, got it kinda working
[23:07:18] 	right, there is very big mess in parser
[23:58:17] 	14(DUP) Update.php is broken when Postgres DB is < 8.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16711  +comment (10greg)
[23:58:18] 	03(mod) Incorrect PostgreSQL version requirements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15896  +comment (10greg)
[23:58:49] 	03(mod) Incorrect PostgreSQL version requirements (IF EXISTS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15896  summary (10greg)