[00:13:04] <Majorly_>	ok I still can't delete anything... grrrr
[00:22:10] <Majorly_>	does anyone have any clue why I wouldn't be able to delete?
[00:37:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add link to message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16795 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[00:41:06] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Impossible to edit page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16796 04BLOCKER; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin)
[00:41:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Impossible to edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16796  (10bertrand.grondin)
[00:49:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Impossible to edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16796  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[00:53:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Impossible to edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16796  (10b-jorsch)
[00:53:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Impossible to edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16796   +patch (10b-jorsch)
[01:19:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Don't offer meaningless protection levels (e.g., move= autoconfirmed with moves restricted to autoconfirmed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16791  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[01:23:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Impossible to edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16796  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[01:29:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Impossible to edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16796  (10b-jorsch)
[01:30:42] <svippy>	Every few days I make an SQL dump of my wiki.
[01:30:51] <svippy>	But the oddity is that it becomes smaller and smaller.
[01:39:39] <CIA-59>	03simetrical * r45042 10/trunk/extensions/NewUserNotif/NewUserNotif.class.php: (bug 16796) Syntax error in NewUserNotif
[01:39:54] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Impossible to edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16796  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[01:43:07] <Simetrical>	Drat, I forgot to credit the guy who pointed it out.
[01:43:12] <Simetrical>	Er, the guy who posted the patch.
[01:43:26] <Simetrical>	Even though it was deleting a single comma and I could have figured it out if I had bothered to look myself.
[01:43:28] <anomie>	Simetrical- I don't mind
[01:43:31] <Simetrical>	It's the principle of the thing.
[01:43:32] <Simetrical>	:)
[01:43:37] <aiuw>	I can't upload .ogg files... here is the parts of my localsettings that might be of interest: http://pastie.org/346828  The error at Special:Upload is "The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether you really want to upload this file."
[01:43:41] <aiuw>	Oops, my bad
[01:47:27] <aiuw>	Any idea?
[01:47:29] <aiuw>	*ideas
[01:54:48] <PsiPro>	Hey. Are there any easy ways to move the images from one installation to another? Both installations are on the same server, just a 'commons' style installation. I do have root access.
[02:19:38] <Dragonfly6-7>	is there any significant difference between the contents of Manual:FAQ and the contents of the O'Reilly book on Mediawiki?
[02:20:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) $wgSharedDB PostgreSQL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16794  (10b-jorsch)
[02:37:46] <Majorly_>	is there a way to completely remove the toolbox from the sidebar?
[02:37:56] <PsiPro>	CSS
[02:38:12] <Majorly_>	is there any good code around?
[02:38:18] <PsiPro>	One second
[02:38:57] <PsiPro>	#p-tb { visibility: hidden; }
[02:39:06] <PsiPro>	in the CSS file should do it
[02:39:13] <PsiPro>	untested tho :)
[02:40:37] <Majorly_>	wow
[02:40:42] <Majorly_>	works, thanks
[02:40:46] <PsiPro>	np
[02:48:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) $wgSharedDB PostgreSQL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16794  (10overlordq)
[02:54:20] <aiuw>	How do I enable ogg ? I can't upload any ogg file...
[02:55:32] <PsiPro>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Configuring_file_uploads
[02:56:37] <aiuw>	PsiPro, I've read it. Other file types work, like jpeg, png, svg, etc ... but ogg and other video formats don't work
[02:57:01] <PsiPro>	did you add ogg to $wgFileExtensions?
[02:57:02] <aiuw>	I get "The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether you really want to upload this file." when uploading either ogg or wmv or flv files
[02:57:06] <aiuw>	Yes
[02:57:34] <PsiPro>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OggHandler
[02:57:39] <PsiPro>	have that installed?
[02:57:54] <aiuw>	Yes
[02:58:33] <PsiPro>	then I dunno. I have never set-up my wiki to play ogg files
[02:58:49] <p858snake>	have you checked some of the other settings related to $wgFileExtensions such as $wgStrictFileExtensions or $wgFileBlacklist?
[03:00:59] <aiuw>	StrictFile is set to false , blacklist is "array(); " , so it's blank
[03:02:50] <aiuw>	Any other ideas?
[03:03:36] <PsiPro>	Not from me sorry :) good luck
[03:11:23] <Marybelle>	AaronSchulz: You about?
[03:13:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) $wgSharedDB PostgreSQL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16794  (10overlordq)
[03:17:51] <anomie>	OverlordQ- The foreign key on awesomewiki.revision doesn't follow the search path, it refers explicitly to awesomewiki.mwuser. I suppose in the CREATE TABLE or ALTER TABLE statement that created the foreign key constraint it might have used the search path to find the table, but it stored it explicitly.
[03:17:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Restore 'what links here' link to the quickbar in Standard skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16797 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (public)
[03:19:59] <OverlordQ>	anomie: hurm, yea it does.
[03:20:57] <OverlordQ>	probably be easier to just setup slony and replicate the usertable lol :/
[03:24:09] <anomie>	or just change the FK to point to the right table
[03:24:22] <anomie>	I don't know that that would be recommended practice though
[03:24:31] <anomie>	fie on MySQL for not supporting foreign keys
[03:25:04] <OverlordQ>	yea, something that requires DB changes to enable shared user table probably wouldn't fly
[03:27:58] <OverlordQ>	just trying to think of how to do it without having to rewrite lots of code :-/
[03:28:38] <anomie>	is setting up slony to clone the table better than altering the FK? ;)
[03:30:08] <Majorly_>	what is the code to hide the tab for content pages? e.g. #ca-edit is for edit
[03:30:22] <OverlordQ>	well yea, wont caust potential unhappiness if the DB changes
[03:30:30] <OverlordQ>	*cause
[03:32:06] <anomie>	good point
[03:33:22] <Majorly_>	nvm
[03:34:04] <thisisengage>	hallo
[03:34:11] <Dantman>	^_^ rewrite MW to use a semantic backend! buahahahaha!
[03:34:31] <thisisengage>	heres a question to the mediawiki gods
[03:34:47] <thisisengage>	why is it so tough to copy a template over from wikipedia to your own mediawiki site
[03:35:00] <Marybelle>	#ca-nstab-*
[03:35:01] <PsiPro>	becaue the templates are heavily nested
[03:35:06] <OverlordQ>	Probably because lots of templates depend on other templates and sometimes even CSS and JS
[03:35:06] <thisisengage>	everytime i export/import one, all kinds of crazy characters end up on the article pages
[03:35:11] <Marybelle>	Though I don't think CSS supports regex..
[03:35:12] <Dantman>	thisisengage, because Wikipedia enables crappy features to make bad things possible
[03:36:08] <OverlordQ>	anomie: one of my crazier ideas was to switch the tables around.  So each table was a schema, and each wiki would have a table named after it in each of those schemas.
[03:36:21] <thisisengage>	so lets enter into fantasy world, and say i copy every single solitary template linked within my wiki, it still is going to get f'd up through js and css? and if the question is yes, do i also have to copy over js files, and where would i find them, and also... please shoot me in the head
[03:36:43] <anomie>	OverlordQ- wow, upside down
[03:36:50] <Dantman>	thisisengage, MediaWiki:Common.js and medi
[03:36:57] <Dantman>	MediaWiki:Common.css
[03:37:10] <OverlordQ>	I figured that way, no matter what, pulling users will *always* come out of the users schema
[03:37:34] <OverlordQ>	but it would still make a complete mess out of the foreign keys
[03:39:18] <thisisengage>	can mw common css and js be exported through wikipedia's export menu en route to your sites import or is it recommended to just highlight code and copy into your own corresponding pages
[03:39:50] <PsiPro>	Either way will work
[03:40:02] <thisisengage>	one final question for you wiki overlords
[03:40:24] <Dantman>	thisisengage, ^_^ you really could just to to export, list out the js and css, and templates you want, then you can even use the export templates options
[03:40:40] <Dantman>	go to*
[03:41:04] <thisisengage>	hmm odd, i never saw an export templates option
[03:41:18] <Dantman>	However, Wikipedia's shitty abuse of tidy will still likely cause you issues
[03:41:27] <thisisengage>	ah shit
[03:41:36] <thisisengage>	there is an export templates option
[03:41:45] <thisisengage>	how did i miss that, hmm
[03:41:49] <thisisengage>	ok final question sirs
[03:42:03] <thisisengage>	how come after i edit every single css file being called on by my wiki, the new article link still remains red like a little *$&#@
[03:43:40] <OverlordQ>	hurm, I wonder if you could do it with table inheritance.
[03:43:49] <anomie>	OverlordQ- Instead of slony, I suppose you could set up triggers on the mwuser tables so a change to one is copied to the other
[03:45:14] <OverlordQ>	still require haxing the DB
[03:45:37] <OverlordQ>	love to do it all in code, but probably lots o work
[03:45:43] <anomie>	inheritance would too, wouldn't it?
[03:46:14] <OverlordQ>	well kinda
[03:46:39] <OverlordQ>	you could keep the DB that holds the user data pristine and your 'slave' wiki's would just inherit that table
[03:50:50] <OverlordQ>	I dunno, i'm grasping at straws :)
[03:51:34] <Dantman>	^_^ Be sure not to grab the one with the red tip...
[04:14:11] <CIA-59>	03mrzman * r45043 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiRollback.php: fix param description, rollback token comes from prop=revisions
[04:23:04] <PsiPro>	When setting up a wiki with shared images (using this method: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family Scenario #4) will I have the opportunity to transfer the images? Or will all of the images suddenly break? 
[05:07:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki code for mzn wikipedia is wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11457  (10ali1986)
[05:25:45] <|X|>	Argh, my $dbw->update command is not working.
[05:28:22] <CIA-59>	03brion * r45044 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[05:28:22] <CIA-59>	Revert r45021, r45022, r45023 -- restoring r44896, r44927, r44896 -- pending
[05:28:22] <CIA-59>	further discussion of what, if anything, is wrong with our ID generation. Given
[05:28:22] <CIA-59>	that the section IDs are meant to be valid IDs (as required per spec), and that
[05:28:22] <CIA-59>	in production they are already put out as IDs due to Tidy's behavior, the only
[05:28:24] <CIA-59>	change necessary to provide the fix (if fix is necessary in fact) would be to
[05:28:26] <CIA-59>	fix our ID normalization.
[05:46:08] <|X|>	Does someone know why this fails to update the revision table? http://pastebin.com/m77b57878
[06:09:31] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) JSON encoding errors for characters outside the BMP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16798 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (b-jorsch)
[06:26:19] <JoeyaaClaus>	Is there a wiki variable we can use for linking to pages?
[06:26:47] <JoeyaaClaus>	Like {{LINKINGPAGENAME}} ? Similar function as {{PAGENAME}}, just it puts the name of the page linked there instead?
[06:32:13] <Splarka>	do what now?
[06:32:32] <JoeyaaClaus>	Use a variable to denote a linked page?
[06:33:30] <Splarka>	backlinks/referers?
[06:33:37] <JoeyaaClaus>	I have the pywikipediabot out atm, and to do a massive change of all the [[wikipedia:BLAHBLAH]]'s links to a piped one like: [[wikiepdia:BLAHBLAH|BLAHBLAH]]
[06:34:02] <JoeyaaClaus>	But I need a variable to change it to cause all the "BLAHBLAH"s would be different.
[06:34:35] <Splarka>	pipe trick might work for you
[06:34:57] <JoeyaaClaus>	What do I do?
[06:36:04] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Pipe_trick
[06:36:30] <JoeyaaClaus>	Can i do something with the bot?
[06:37:41] <Splarka>	^ that, on save it is transformed from [[Wikipedia:Foo|]] to [[Wikipedia:Foo|Foo]] by the software
[06:37:50] <Splarka>	or you can just parse it smartly
[06:40:29] *JoeyaaClaus 	reads the page
[06:42:55] <JoeyaaClaus>	I don't get this.
[06:43:07] <JoeyaaClaus>	I know how to use pipes, but to do it automatically?
[06:43:15] <JoeyaaClaus>	It doesn't exacly flow... http://www.englishfreenode.info/index.php?title=Collective_noun
[06:44:34] <JoeyaaClaus>	Splarka, what do you think?
[06:48:34] <JoeyaaClaus>	Splarka, ?
[06:48:46] <CIA-59>	03shinjiman * r45045 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs): mark the skin names strings as optional, as some languages are still using the original skin name in English
[07:04:58] <Splarka>	JoeyaaClaus: yes, just change...
[07:05:08] <Splarka>	*[[wikipedia:Grammatical number]]
[07:05:08] <Splarka>	*[[wikipedia:Mass noun]]
[07:05:18] <Splarka>	to *[[wikipedia:Grammatical number|]]  *[[wikipedia:Mass noun|]]  etc
[07:05:27] <JoeyaaClaus>	But that is manul
[07:05:30] <Splarka>	should do what you want
[07:05:31] <JoeyaaClaus>	manual
[07:05:57] <Splarka>	well, what are you asking? a way to change [[wikipedia:Mass noun]] to [[wikipedia:Mass noun|{{LINKNAME}}]] ? that if it could be done would be manual too
[07:07:56] <JoeyaaClaus>	I have all the links as [[wikipedia:LINK'SNAME]], but I won't a variable or something so I can do something like [[wikipedia:LINK'SNAME|LINK"SNAME]] on all links no matter what follows the wikipedia: and I want to do it with a bot
[07:10:30] <Splarka>	the answer to that question is "pipe trick" until you are more specific with more details, heh
[07:11:38] <JoeyaaClaus>	I can't do the pipe trick automatically with a bot
[07:11:55] <JoeyaaClaus>	unless I go link to link changing the parameters of the bot
[07:12:01] <JoeyaaClaus>	's script
[07:14:20] <Splarka>	right, well, if you don't mean each link, then what would you need the bot for?
[07:14:49] <JoeyaaClaus>	Each link, but all in one command, not changing it for everyone
[07:16:25] <Splarka>	ahh, "Similar function as {{PAGENAME}}", that would be nothing like {{PAGENAME}}... more like {{DEFAULTSORT}}, but nothing like that exists that I know of
[07:17:05] <JoeyaaClaus>	LINKPAGENAME
[07:17:07] <JoeyaaClaus>	:)
[07:19:23] <Splarka>	right, but you compared it to PAGENAME.. but that magic word is used inline each time you want to use it, nothing like what you want
[07:19:48] <JoeyaaClaus>	...
[07:20:08] <Splarka>	like [[Special:Whatlinksher/{{PAGENAME}}]] is an example
[07:20:19] <Splarka>	linkshere, even
[07:20:34] <JoeyaaClaus>	But is there anything I can do with a bot?
[07:20:58] <Splarka>	the way you phrased it, you gave no hint you wanted to change default interwiki link behavior for a whole page
[07:21:04] <Splarka>	I don't understand this 'with a bot' bit
[07:21:22] <Splarka>	if you want to do something with a bot, have it use the pipe trick
[07:21:27] <JoeyaaClaus>	Using pywikipediabot, can I do this as a scrit?
[07:21:36] <JoeyaaClaus>	script
[07:22:47] <Splarka>	sure, you just have to parse the page looking for /(\[\[wikipedia\:[^]|]*)(\]\])/ig and replace it with $1|$2 or something
[07:23:03] <Splarka>	(dunno python regex very well)
[07:23:40] <JoeyaaClaus>	So I would run replace.py?
[07:23:54] <JoeyaaClaus>	And what would I replace and with what? Be specific...
[07:24:41] <Splarka>	can't, dunno python or python regex
[07:24:54] <Splarka>	read the pipe trick page
[07:24:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikibits patch #5 - performance optimizations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15402  (10mhorvath2161)
[07:26:02] <JoeyaaClaus>	I'll try what you said, replace -page:PAGE   Lookfor: /(\[\[wikipedia\:[^]|]*)(\]\])/ig  Replace with: $1|$2 
[07:35:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on he.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14648  (10JSchulz_4587)
[08:06:27] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Mails sent out by MediaWiki should have the Auto-Submitted header set to ' auto-generated' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16799 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (mail)
[08:07:01] <CIA-59>	03dale * r45046 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/libRemoteMediaSearch/mv_remote_media_search.js: minor fixes to resource import
[08:37:05] <CyrusHwang>	clear
[08:37:07] <CyrusHwang>	oops
[08:37:14] <CyrusHwang>	I have a problem on namespace aliasing. Alias works on URL accessing, but not works on searching.
[09:47:28] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) localized 'special' ('=?UTF-8?Q?spe=C4=8Bjali?=') namespace for mt.wp not resolving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16687  +comment (10gustav.vella)
[10:11:03] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r45047 10/trunk/extensions/CountEdits/ (CountEdits.i18n.php CountEdits.page.php): Add plural support for 'countedits-resulttext'
[10:26:07] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r45048 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (62 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-12-26 11:15 CET)
[10:27:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Impossible to edit page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16796  (10bertrand.grondin)
[10:42:46] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r45049 10/trunk/extensions/ (227 files in 203 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-12-26 11:15 CET)
[11:16:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) localized 'special' ('=?UTF-8?Q?spe=C4=8Bjali?=') namespace for mt.wp not resolving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16687  (10siebrand)
[11:32:26] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r45050 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (5 files): Localisation updates from Betawiki
[11:58:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo for pms.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16587   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[11:59:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Update request for ga.wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16401   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[12:07:59] <CIA-59>	03raymond * r45051 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/LogEventsList.php): 
[12:07:59] <CIA-59>	* Special:Log: Add 'change protection' link for unprotected pages too
[12:07:59] <CIA-59>	* For protection log lines: Change format '(hist) (change)' to '(hist | change)'
[12:07:59] <CIA-59>	* Precache 'pipe-separator'
[12:34:20] <CIA-59>	03raymond * r45052 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/LogEventsList.php): * Special:Log: Add log type specific CSS classes 'mw-logline-$logtype' to 'li' elements
[12:45:42] <Two73C>	is there any reason to render latex as png with white bg and not transparent bg?
[12:46:33] <Nikerabbit>	maybe, I don't know
[12:50:21] <Raymond_>	Two73C: read the comments in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8
[12:52:14] <Two73C>	This can lead to black-on-black text
[12:52:14] <Two73C>	for some users using high-contrast 
[12:58:03] <yksinaisyyteni>	we should start rendering maths as either mathml or svg anyway
[12:59:34] <Two73C>	what is mathml?
[12:59:56] <yksinaisyyteni>	an html-like language for writing maths
[13:00:09] <yksinaisyyteni>	with the intent of embedding it into html documents
[13:00:18] <Two73C>	I looked everywhere for latex to svg but could only find command line basead conversors
[13:01:06] <yksinaisyyteni>	a command line converter is exactly what you want for mediawiki
[13:01:11] <yksinaisyyteni>	(how else would you do it?)
[13:01:59] <Two73C>	desktop use
[13:42:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Page disappearance after localization of 'User' ('Utent') namespace on mt.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16800 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (gustav.vella)
[13:52:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page disappearance after localization of 'User' ('Utent') namespace on mt.wp - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16800  (10gustav.vella)
[13:52:57] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Restore 'what links here' link to the quickbar in Standard skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16797  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[13:52:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restore "whatlinkshere" and "related changes" links in sidebar for classic skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16786  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[14:10:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page disappearance after localization of 'User' ('Utent') namespace on mt.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16800  +comment (10nospam)
[14:23:24] <mackensen>	hello all
[14:24:06] <MGrab>	mackensen: hi
[14:24:20] <mackensen>	so, I've set up my own mediawiki instance, but when I return table code through a template it comes out wrong
[14:24:54] <mackensen>	the entity code (&gt;td&lt;) instead of (<td>)
[14:25:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page disappearance after localization of 'User' ('Utent') namespace on mt.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16800  (10gustav.vella)
[14:26:19] <mackensen>	I'm guessing something has to be tweaked in my php.ini, but I'm not sure what
[14:27:20] <Platonides>	mackensen, try enabling tidy
[14:28:34] <mackensen>	moment
[14:28:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page disappearance after localization of 'User' ('Utent') namespace on mt.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16800  +comment (10Platonides)
[14:33:31] <mackensen>	Platonides: okay, I've enabled tidy, but I've still having the problem
[14:33:34] <mackensen>	using the default config
[14:40:36] <mackensen>	okay, I got it
[14:40:47] <mackensen>	I had to add $wgUseTidy to my settings file
[14:40:54] <mackensen>	thanks Platonides
[14:48:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Change position of link to last flagged revisions on RC and watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16801 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken)
[15:22:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikibits patch #5 - performance optimizations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15402  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[15:39:09] <Multichil>	Hi guys, i have a template question. I'm playing around at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Self/autotranslate , but the line "|{{#if:{{{author|}}}|author={{{author|}}}}}" doesn't seem to have any effect. Any ideas on what's wrong?
[15:42:13] <Platonides>	what's the point of that bunch of #if ?
[15:42:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) application/x-rar is not a known mime-type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16802 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (mati)
[15:44:25] <Platonides>	Template:self/en doesn't have any author parameter
[15:47:19] <Multichil>	Platonides : Removed, handled somewhere else anyway. Self/en does have an author parameter, second line
[15:48:17] <Multichil>	If i replace "|{{#if:{{{author|}}}|author={{{author|}}}}}" with "|author=some author" it works
[15:52:42] <Multichil>	You got any idea Platonides?
[15:53:30] <Platonides>	what about if you do |author={{{author|}}} ?
[15:55:04] <Multichil>	That's plan B (have to change all the lang templates), but i wonder why this template construct doesn't work
[15:55:38] <Multichil>	What the heck, tired of this, over to plan B ;-)
[16:09:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New hook right after initialization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15209  +comment (10mati)
[16:22:32] <CIA-59>	03ialex * r45053 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/StableVersions_body.php: 
[16:22:32] <CIA-59>	* Allow wiki text in stableversions-review
[16:22:32] <CIA-59>	* escape hist-quality and hist-stable
[16:45:04] <hausgeist>	moin
[16:45:09] <Nikerabbit>	mauin
[16:53:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) JSON encoding errors for characters outside the BMP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16798  (10b-jorsch)
[16:54:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) proposition for message's system to use specific word/ expression automaticly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16803 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (crochet.david)
[16:55:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) JSON encoding errors for characters outside the BMP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16798   +patch (10b-jorsch)
[16:58:45] <ialex>	hello brion
[17:00:00] <brion>	morning
[17:00:53] <MGrab>	brion: lol, it's 6pm here
[17:01:15] *brion 	stabs MGrab with such a stilly timezone
[17:01:51] <brion>	here in US we get to sleep in!
[17:02:27] *ialex 	note that MGrab is in the same timezone as him :)
[17:02:54] *MGrab 	is glad that he isn't alone against brion's TZ
[17:03:11] <ialex>	:D
[17:03:17] <brion>	hehe
[17:04:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Upload & Reupload permissions change at zh-wikinews - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16804 major; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (expofrontier)
[17:04:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload & Reupload permissions change at zh-wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16804   +shell (10alex.emsenhuber)
[17:11:49] <Danwe>	hi
[17:12:29] <Danwe>	Does anybody know, how its possible to import an MySQL DB Dump with 20mb with phpmyadmin??
[17:49:47] <|X|>	Does someone know why this fails to update the revision table? http://pastebin.com/m77b57878
[17:50:53] <ialex>	and with $dbw->commit(); after?
[18:05:54] <|X|>	Yay, thanks, ialex 
[18:05:57] <|X|>	I forgot about that
[18:06:40] <ialex>	|X|: dunno how may hours I spent to debug the same stuff until I found that :D
[18:07:06] <|X|>	Heh, so I'm not alone here
[18:07:54] <|X|>	Just that EVERY single /includes page which interacts with the database doesn't use that immediately
[18:08:31] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r45054 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (20 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-12-26 19:04 CET)
[18:14:56] <piksi>	so, we didn't get 1.14 for christmas :-(
[18:17:06] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r45055 10/trunk/extensions/ (182 files in 174 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-12-26 19:04 CET)
[18:18:34] <siebrand>	anyone who can imagine session loss when sources are updated?
[18:19:55] <brion>	?
[18:20:50] <siebrand>	brion: we update Betawiki quite often, and we sometimes get reports about session loss during that time.
[18:21:39] <brion>	shouldn't be anything specific to that, but if you're updating LocalSettings and that's bumpging your $wgCacheEpoch, people might be seeing cached pages from when their expired session was active up until the update
[18:21:46] <siebrand>	btw, 10k+ new translations during the past 2 days (YAY!)
[18:22:18] <siebrand>	brion: nothing of that kind. Just an svn up, and reserialisation of updated strings
[18:22:35] <brion>	shouldn't affect anything afaik
[18:22:59] <siebrand>	hmm. Will try and make more work out of this. Maybe Nikerabbit has any ideas...
[18:25:13] <Nikerabbit>	siebrand: you didn't follow the discussion in #mediawiki-i18n ?
[18:25:45] <Nikerabbit>	I suspect it is our cache running tight
[18:35:14] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: ah, ok.
[18:57:33] <CIA-59>	03btongminh * r45056 10/trunk/extensions/NssMySQLAuth/SpecialAccountManager.php: Commit fixes that were live applied on our wiki.
[18:59:02] <siebrand>	hey Bryan. Best xmas wishes
[19:01:04] <Bryan>	hello
[19:01:06] <Bryan>	you as well
[19:01:10] <Bryan>	and anybody else :)
[19:05:30] *|X| 	is going insane over an uncooperative log entry
[19:15:24] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r45057 10/trunk/extensions/YouTubeAuthSub/YouTubeAuthSub.i18n.php: Reword 'youtubeauthsub_success', 'youtubeauthsub_code', and 'youtubeauthsub_viewpage' to remove 'click here' from links.
[19:42:42] <CIA-59>	03btongminh * r45058 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php): (bug 15430) Cancel the upload process and rollback database changes in case no article associated with the file can be created
[19:42:55] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Uploads sometimes are incomplete: file is there, but image page is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15430  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[19:48:29] <CIA-59>	03siebrand * r45059 10/trunk/extensions/regexBlock/regexBlock.i18n.php: Remove one of double 'only'. Thanks to ChrisiPK for noticing.
[19:51:16] <Charitwo>	hangover?
[21:12:11] <Kodos2>	need help
[21:12:27] <Nikerabbit>	got it
[21:13:03] <Kodos2>	is it possible to just install wikipedia's templates locally on my computer with a local version of mediawiki ?
[21:20:31] <Kodos2>	is it possible to merge a local databese with wikipedia's databe dump ?
[21:59:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Certain Special: pages should not import JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16805 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (public)
[22:01:46] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Making arbitrary rows of sortable tables sticky - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16754  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[22:05:22] <siebrand>	c'mon guys, we need some help on Betawiki translating system messages. With two hours to go in the day, we want to reach 10k translations in one day. 1200 translations to go.
[22:05:34] <siebrand>	German, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish, Arabic, Hindi, Spanish, you name it. Your help is most welcome.
[22:09:36] <Bryan>	do we have "Merry Christmas" at BetaWiki?
[22:24:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install PdfHandler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215  +comment (10zephyrus4)
[22:29:07] <Nikerabbit>	Bryan: and lots of snow
[23:07:09] <|X|>	Someone want to help me by testing out my new extension? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditEditSummary
[23:08:34] <Nikerabbit>	EditEditEditSummary
[23:08:47] <Bryan>	changeSummary should either do the logging as well, or that should be in a separate function
[23:08:54] <Bryan>	anyway, I'm gone
[23:08:59] <Nikerabbit>	bye
[23:10:11] <|X|>	It does do logging.
[23:18:03] <Platonides>	|X| isn't the name too repeating? edit-edit...
[23:18:13] <Platonides>	why not just EditSummaries?
[23:18:31] <|X|>	Because you're editing edit summaries :)
[23:18:54] <|X|>	I suppose I could make it EditSummaries
[23:20:04] <Platonides>	"'description'	=> 'Allows a Sysop to sacrifice their own bit, in order to desysop another',
[23:20:21] <Platonides>	it smells being copied from another extension ;)
[23:20:26] <|X|>	Oh, facepalm
[23:20:46] <|X|>	It was from [[Extension:EmergencyDeSysop]]
[23:21:08] <|X|>	I think I was grabbing the URLs for the SVN repo, as SQL and I use the same host
[23:21:27] <Platonides>	EditEditSummary.alias.php also has only old data
[23:21:38] <Platonides>	well, and you may want to change 'author'	=> 'SQL',
[23:21:40] <|X|>	I forgot to update that
[23:22:09] <Platonides>	that's why I'm remembering it to you :)
[23:24:25] <Platonides>	you may want to also check rev_deleted 
[23:24:47] <Majorly>	hi where would the file php.ini be located?
[23:24:51] <Platonides>	another lost comment: //Do the desysop
[23:25:05] <Platonides>	Majorly, phpinfo() will tell you
[23:25:11] <Platonides>	depends on your php install
[23:25:28] <Majorly>	well, the usual one...
[23:25:32] <Platonides>	probably something like /etc/php/*/php.ini
[23:26:03] <Majorly>	how do I access it?
[23:26:30] <Platonides>	sorry?
[23:26:48] <Majorly>	how do I access it?
[23:26:56] <Platonides>	what do you mean?
[23:27:04] <Platonides>	finding the real location?
[23:27:11] <Majorly>	on the web server, yes
[23:27:12] <Platonides>	you open it with a normal text editor
[23:27:29] <Majorly>	there's no such directory as "etc"
[23:27:38] <Platonides>	create a script containing: <?php phpinfo();
[23:27:42] <Platonides>	and browse that page
[23:27:57] <Platonides>	it will show you a lot of information, including the location of the php.ini it is using
[23:28:53] <Majorly>	sorry you've lost me :)
[23:29:22] <Majorly>	I'm trying to change the size limit on uploads, and need to edit the php.ini file
[23:31:04] <Platonides>	locate your php.ini
[23:31:38] <Majorly>	it's at /usr/local/lib/php.ini but I can't access that
[23:31:53] <|X|>	Platonides, I have fixed all that.
[23:32:01] <Platonides>	well, usually only root can edit it
[23:32:15] <Majorly>	Platonides, I am root
[23:32:31] <Majorly>	I mean, there's no directory called "usr"
[23:32:35] <Majorly>	how am I supposed to find it
[23:32:53] <Platonides>	there must be /usr
[23:33:13] <Majorly>	maybe I'm looking in the wrong place, but there isn't
[23:33:21] <Platonides>	are you trying to find it on your home or something as weird?
[23:33:40] <Platonides>	go to a console and run: ls -l /usr
[23:33:44] <Majorly>	no, I'm looking in my file manager
[23:33:53] <Majorly>	in the mediawiki folder
[23:34:05] <Platonides>	no,no, no
[23:34:08] <Platonides>	not on the mediawiki folder
[23:34:12] <Majorly>	where then
[23:34:16] <Platonides>	it's a system configuration
[23:34:25] <Platonides>	on the system root
[23:36:20] <Platonides>	have you found it?
[23:36:25] <Majorly>	no...
[23:36:34] <wikibugs>	06(LATER) Hide the edit summary in Undelete for non-sysops, then grant " deletedhistory" to every user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5415  +comment (10mrzmanwiki)
[23:36:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Inline links to files are not reported by the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16806 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (carnildo)
[23:36:59] <Platonides>	which editor do you want to use ?
[23:37:40] <Majorly>	I really don't know. I've managed to change several features from the default but this is ridiculously complex..
[23:38:53] <Platonides>	it's stupidly easy
[23:39:03] <Platonides>	that's where the complexity lies
[23:39:27] <Platonides>	go to the parent folder until you cannot go up any more
[23:39:37] <Platonides>	there you must have the usr folder
[23:41:05] <Majorly>	no folder
[23:41:47] <Platonides>	which window environment do you use? 
[23:42:04] <Nardul>	evening
[23:42:14] <Majorly>	no idea
[23:42:29] <Majorly>	net2ftp
[23:42:34] <Nardul>	If i want to be able to paste telnet://<address> links in a mediawiki page, what do i need to do?
[23:42:45] <Nardul>	It's installed on a debian running apache atm.
[23:43:01] <Platonides>	Nardul, do that?
[23:43:23] <Nardul>	Platonides, Does not work.
[23:43:27] <Nardul>	[vnc://10.0.0.4 AutoSSH] Doesn't work.
[23:43:35] <Nardul>	It just writes that line.
[23:43:37] <Reedy>	[]
[23:43:46] <Reedy>	[telnet://address] ?
[23:44:03] <Nardul>	that works
[23:44:29] <Majorly>	Platonides, do i create a new file or something
[23:44:41] <Nardul>	I'm sorry, confused. I wan't vnc:// to work. Which it doesnt.
[23:45:13] <Platonides>	Nardul, I think it's $wgProtocols
[23:45:35] <Nardul>	Platonides, Thanks. I'll check it out.
[23:45:46] <Reedy>	Majorly, wont you be restricted to what you can access?
[23:45:49] <Platonides>	Majorly, do you mean you're accessing the server via a web interface?
[23:45:55] <Majorly>	yes
[23:46:08] <Platonides>	then you probably don't have access to the root folder
[23:46:09] <Majorly>	Reedy, what?
[23:46:21] <Reedy>	as Platonides just said
[23:46:28] <Reedy>	cPanel gives you restricted access
[23:46:29] <Reedy>	tho
[23:46:35] <Reedy>	usually lets you change some config stuff..
[23:46:46] <OverlordQ>	!wg UrlProtocols
[23:46:46] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUrlProtocols
[23:46:50] <Majorly>	yes, but how. that is my question
[23:47:07] <Reedy>	ages since i touched cpanel
[23:47:07] <Reedy>	whatya trying to change?
[23:47:14] <Majorly>	the upload limit
[23:47:19] <Majorly>	size
[23:47:30] <Nardul>	Thanks alot for the help!
[23:47:33] <Platonides>	if you're root, you probably also have some more access, like ssh
[23:47:41] <Reedy>	Platonides, cPanel