[01:08:38] 03(NEW) show number of leaf articles in parentheses instead of number of number of subcategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16807 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (evouga) [01:14:18] per https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16806 damn, I'm sure that's a dupe... [01:16:45] Splarka do you know regex? [01:17:13] javascript, not python (simple constructs are similar for both though) [01:18:09] I need regex so when I tell my bot to delete all the templates on a page, it can do that without me specifying which template [01:19:09] there is no way to tell the difference between parameterless templates and magic words (other than magic words usually have all uppercase letters, but templates can too) [01:19:25] but if you don't mind that... [01:19:45] ... [01:19:49] it's also impossible to match complicated (nested) templates with a simple regexp [01:20:01] well, like {{PAGENAME}} {{NOTPAGENAME}} where the latter is Template:NOTPAGENAME [01:20:21] yah, what lonliness said [01:20:37] {{template|variable=data|variable={{generated data}}|foo=bar}} [01:21:07] you could do it recursively with a high degree of accuracy but...hmm.. spooky [01:21:28] i believe it's possible in perl (not pcre, though) [01:21:43] eg, remove \{\{[^}]*\}\} and keep doing it until zero matches are found [01:21:58] usually i do that how mediawiki does it, which is to split on [[ (or {{, or whatever) recursively [01:22:11] (although i don't think mw's version is actually recursive) [01:22:14] (but then you can get in trouble with variables {{{}}} but those don't appear in articles, just template namesapce) [01:22:35] ^usually [01:23:12] replace.py -cat:Wikipedia -regex {template|variable=data|variable={{generated data}}|foo=bar}} [01:23:15] Will that work? [01:23:32] Joeyaa: no, you have to actually read the conversation, instead of picking out random phrases [01:24:23] <|X|> Could someone help me by testing http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EditSummary? [01:24:32] replace.py -cat:Wikipedia -regex '\.*?\<\/ref\>' Would this work? [01:54:07] is anyone here running mediawiki on anything aside from apache? If so are you taking in a lot of traffic? [01:54:50] nginx for me [01:54:55] ditto nginx [01:54:58] Don't know about traffic though [01:55:19] OverlordQ, short urls? [01:55:44] DanielFriesen: how many pages are you serving in a day? [01:55:49] DanielFriesen: yea [01:55:57] no clue, don't track stats [01:56:10] OverlordQ: do you know how many pages you are serving per day? [01:56:22] 03(mod) Upload & Reupload permissions change at zh-wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16804 (10expofrontier) [01:57:09] eghjaytee: none, it's a public wiki but I use it for fixing bugs and developing stuff so there's really nothing there [01:57:28] OverlordQ: thanks [02:02:18] hey everyone, is there a way to make {{#ifeq}} output absolutely nothing if strings are not identical? [02:04:22] Yes [02:04:42] and how would i do that? [02:05:03] First, by pinging someone here who knows something ie. not me :) [02:05:14] -.- [02:05:30] "absolutely nothing" heh.. [02:05:36] null, empty string, character zero... [02:06:07] no, nothing [02:06:15] no kind of char whatsoever [02:06:21] right, but what kind of nothing? [02:06:34] the nothing that will trigger #if ? the nothing that will show a variable as undefined versus empty? [02:06:59] well, this is not a return function, but an output function [02:07:07] so there is no need to return anything [02:07:12] it should just not output anything [02:07:17] a{{#ifeq:string|string|something|}}b c{{#ifeq:string|otherstring|something|}}d [02:07:17] to the actual page [02:07:34]

asomethingb cd

[02:07:38] like that? [02:07:53] yes, like that, but it doesn't work for me like that [02:07:59] or i am missing something [02:08:04] WFM [02:08:13] so does: a{{#ifeq:string|string|something}}b c{{#ifeq:string|otherstring|something}}d [02:08:13] i keep getting a


output [02:08:18] ahh [02:08:21] that is because you have a blank line [02:08:40] if it returns nothing, the code sees a blank line, and if there is another before or after it, that is a paragraph break [02:08:48] so it works, you just don't want nothing [02:08:58] aah that might be the problem [02:09:02] thanks, trying it right now [02:09:06] so, what you do, is move the blank line inside the ifeq [02:09:17] How can I get this on my wiki????? : KeyError: "MediaWiki key 'newuserlog-autocreate-entry' does not exist [02:09:21] previous function}}{{#ifeq:foo|foo| [02:09:34] positive result|}}{{next function [02:09:43] yes, that did the trick [02:09:47] d'oh stupid me [02:09:49] Splarka, ? [02:09:55] i had this issue before, just didn't think of that [02:09:57] thanks a lot Splarka [02:10:24] Joeyaa: no idea about command line python regex, ask in ##python or #pywikipediabot maybe [02:10:30] rar PK [02:10:45] Joeyaa: no idea about that either [02:10:46] It's a ghost town there [02:47:56] |X|: The infobox on that page. [02:48:21] Last Version r42 (12-26-08) [02:48:25] That doesn't make any sense... [02:48:36] If you're using your own SVN, link to it or something. [02:48:40] <|X|> I did. [02:48:49] <|X|> See the download link [02:49:00] I see no link there... [02:49:02] Oh, link the r42. :P [02:49:12] And don't you have commit access? [02:49:17] <|X|> I do [02:49:21] <|X|> I haven't added it to SVN yet [02:49:29] MediaWiki 1.13 [02:49:39] That part. Does it work with 1.14alpha? If so, specify. :P [02:49:42] 1.13 or later? [02:49:45] <|X|> Later [02:49:58] <|X|> What do you mean bitfields? [02:50:20] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bitfields_for_rev_deleted [02:50:29] Also called RevisionDelete. [02:50:35] <|X|> Yes, I know that [02:50:50] <|X|> But what about it? [02:51:00] Well, bitfields allows hiding the summary... [02:51:13] Does it interact nicely with that? Does it ignore it completely? [02:51:29] What happens if the summary is hidden and then I try to hide it? [02:51:53] Is there an easier way than a Special: page to hide get to the interface? Link from the toolbox perhaps? [02:52:00] (Doesn't oversight do something like that?) [02:53:07] And I still don't know what revision ID means. If you mean the oldid, that should be in the interface somewhere. Some people with technical rights have little technical ability. ;-) [02:53:59] <|X|> I thought Oversight uses Special:Oversight [02:54:28] But it has one-click access from some other part of the software, I'm almost positive... [02:54:48] "will have an additional 'hide revision' tab when viewing an old revision," [02:54:51] From http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Oversight [02:54:54] 03(mod) Server should return a 404 HTTP status code if the page does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2585 +comment (10herd) [02:55:19] Also, you say it works on "the edit summaries of certain edits" but I have no idea what that means. Which does it not work on? Does it work on logging entries? If not, should it? [02:55:36] And should all of this be built directly into core in the first place... ? [02:55:48] Though, why would one ever need to alter an edit summary. [02:55:50] ? [02:57:10] <|X|> The tabs link to Special:Oversight, IIRC [02:57:21] Okay, so copy that behavior perhaps? [02:57:32] Something easier than having to manually navigate there... [02:57:36] And... [02:57:39] $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['editownsummary'] = true;//Only sysops can edit their own summary [02:57:45] What's the purpose of admin-only? [02:57:53] <|X|> It was just an example [02:58:00] Is it also the default? [02:58:06] <|X|> No. [02:58:17] The entire idea is one... [02:58:29] ... editing edit summaries?? [02:58:34] See [[meta:Revising history]]. History revisionism is generally bad. [02:59:00] And I say generally in the almost always sense. [02:59:00] loaded term [02:59:11] Yet entirely applicable. [02:59:14] <|X|> werdnum, it used to be called EditEditSummary [02:59:48] i agree, but that term is emotionally charged [03:00:01] Well, I titled the page "Revising history" :P [03:00:02] holocaust etc [03:00:06] I'm aware. [03:01:53] werdnum: Have you seen http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Regex-based_blacklist ? [03:03:03] Marybelle: i'm on my iphone so i can't follow the link but it sounds like ghe title blacklist [03:03:19] It's to fix the awful hack that is the title blacklist. :P [03:03:37] Some people think AbuseFilter might work for it.. [03:03:42] have you seen the AbuseFilter ext? [03:03:58] <|X|> werdnum, that's what I told Marybelle [03:04:05] I have. I think the AbuseFilter might be too heavy duty for this particular kind of thing... [03:04:06] *werdnum is the developer responsible for it [03:04:10] 03(mod) Save CodeReview diffs to database instead of transitory cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16774 (10brion) [03:04:25] *Marybelle laughs at werdnum. [03:04:36] :( [03:04:42] awww [03:04:51] <|X|> werdnum, how close is Abuse Filter to being released? [03:04:56] <|X|> on WMF wikis? [03:05:17] i'll be enslaving werdnum to patch it up for us in january [03:05:21] |X|: i start on that project jan 12 [03:05:29] <|X|> :( [03:05:42] holiday time now [03:05:54] werdnum: Does it still have dependencies besides PHP? [03:06:10] it's basically my full time job for jan [03:06:21] Marybelle: optionally [03:06:31] Hmm. [03:06:42] there's an incomplete fallback parser in php [03:06:53] the C one is broken [03:07:01] Another reason I'm thinking a separate blacklist extension might be better. ;-) [03:07:13] river did something to it [03:07:15] Could probably re-use some code, though. [03:08:03] or have a pared down AbuseFilter interface (as well as the existing one) [03:08:58] it could generate the rules and put them in the DB [03:09:00] <|X|> On an unrelated topic, why Renameuser isn't part of core, like Oversight is becoming. [03:09:16] It's on the list, I believe. [03:09:22] Needs to be rewritten. [03:09:25] That's what the hold-up is. [03:09:36] Allowing either queued renames or self-renaming of some type would be best. [03:09:41] <|X|> Its the fact that it breaks for large users. [03:09:52] No it doesn't... [03:10:01] oh Marybelle = mzmcbride [03:10:03] And what's a large user? Raul? >_> [03:10:13] werdnum: :D [03:10:18] That's why I was laughing at you. [03:10:24] why Marybelle ? [03:10:35] I felt it was a sufficient ridiculous name. [03:10:41] And it makes reading scrollback much funnier. [03:10:51] Sufficiently. * [03:11:01] i was wondering who this well-educated newbie was [03:11:11] <|X|> Yeah, it took me a while too. [03:11:24] |X|: There are few pages / bugs if you're interested. [03:11:34] werdnum: I figured you'd be used to River's switching. [03:11:35] <|X|> I finally 13 minutes ago [03:11:42] i 'm on my iphone, or i'd have whoised ages ago [03:11:51] <|X|> Like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MZMcBride? [03:11:51] *Marybelle nods. [03:11:54] he's hiding from his disasterous support of the safari textarea bug [03:12:03] |X|: I meant related to renaming. :P [03:12:08] *Splarka isn't gonna harp on him until he goes back to MZM [03:12:08] <|X|> Oh :P [03:12:13] Splarka: Bah! [03:12:35] I'm still in favor of implementing that change and having a proper user preference for serif fonts in the textarea. [03:13:16] That whole "it breaks ln.wikipedia" or whatever is a complete smokescreen. [03:13:29] Firefox and Opera users seem to edit just fine. [03:13:45] <|X|> And if it breaks in IE, that's a good sign [03:17:40] my only complaint is the font looks too shitty and small in safari, and it's not worth the effort of playing around to make it look perfect [03:17:50] if people want aligned ascii art they can make a user stylesheet [03:18:14] |X|: you know of -> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/List_of_extensions_to_be_merged_to_the_core ? [03:18:24] <|X|> Aha :) [03:18:50] brion: isn't wikitext made for ascii art? [03:19:36] not with tidy stripping whitespace in anticipation of html (and ignoring manual white-space: pre/nowrap declarations) [03:19:53] you can use 
 but that isn't wikitext, custom (lack of a) parser
[03:21:16] *|X| 	chooses to work on merging the Interwiki extension
[03:21:59] 	rewrite timeline in php!
[03:22:33] 	write a wiki engine in server side js!
[03:23:00] 	write a wiki engine in _client_ side js
[03:23:20] 	say semantic!
[03:23:39] 	!semantic
[03:23:39] --mwbot--	Not many people here use Semantic Mediawiki. You might try #semanticmediawiki (also see !hesaidsemantic ).
[03:23:56] 	^_^ why of course... you think I'd write a good piece of software without using a semantic database as a backend?
[03:24:57] 	!hesaidsemantox
[03:24:57] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "hesaidsemantox".
[03:25:01] 	!hesaidsemantic
[03:25:01] --mwbot--	http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/576/hesaidsemanticga2.jpg
[03:25:13] 	I can't believe how fugly the software I'm currently working on in my employment would look if I had to use classic RDBMS techniques
[03:49:41] 	brion: Did you ever get a chance to look at that email patch?
[03:50:30] 	haven't yet. can you summarize it? is this the one that got committed but relied on wfInvoke which was reverted?
[03:50:57] 	brion: I fixed wfInvoke and recommited, but at Tim's suggestion I'm going to change it to use PHP callbacks.
[03:51:19] 	Summary:
[03:51:46] 	werdnum, you might be interested in something semantic though. While not supported by SPARQL yet, TQL supports a walk statement ;)
[03:52:13] 	Split into a function that selects recipient users, a function that composes the message.
[03:52:33] 	Any two functions can be plugged in here, so new kinds of events can get email notifications. 
[03:52:54] 	You can then say:
[03:53:24] 	http://pastie.textmate.org/private/g0grtn0ejkbxg4r6eo7oq
[03:53:59] 	(the arrays are only nested because I'm using wfInvoke in a broken way; will be fixed soon.)
[03:54:35] 	And get your email sent.
[03:54:53] 	TODO: generalize the job notification code so that this doesn't have to be rewritten for each kind of notification. (Even though it's short.)
[03:55:56] 	standard php callbacks would be fine for this, yeah
[03:56:10] 	i'm not sure there's a need for a callback for the users list; why not just make a list and pass that in?
[03:56:56] 	You want to store that in the job queue? 
[03:59:41] 	(The real reason is probably that I'm used to using generators for everything in Python and just think that way.)
[04:00:38] 	hmm, so the function name gets stored in the job queue?
[04:04:16] 	Not as yet, but it will in the generalized version.
[04:04:31] 	About that.
[04:05:18] 	We have some kinds of objects that have to referred to using compound structures.
[04:05:35] 	Such as users; you need to keep both the user text and the user id around to refer to a user.
[04:06:04] 	These classes should implement a standardly-named pair of methods for string representations, to be stored in places like the job queue. 
[04:06:26] 	mmmm might be nice
[04:06:58] 	Otherwise you end up with code like this:
[04:07:13] 	http://pastie.textmate.org/private/jx2mcb98wwr1qptp3iclow
[04:07:21] 	All
[04:07:22] 	over
[04:07:22] 	the 
[04:07:23] 	place.
[04:16:53] 	03soxred93 * r45061 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: fix spacing
[05:00:47] 	03soxred93 * r45062 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Add Interwiki extension to core.
[05:00:51] <|X|>	Splarka, ^
[05:01:46] 	|X|: hide the women and children
[05:01:59] <|X|>	Huh?
[05:03:54] 	nuffin
[05:04:02] *Splarka 	does about as much change to a bug as possible...
[05:04:23] 	removing cc's, de-assigning, changing components, adding comment
[05:04:37] 	03(mod)  Inline links to files are no longer being registered in the link table or image table , or anywhere apparently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16806  summary; +comment (10herd)
[05:10:07] 	03aaron * r45063 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: Move doNothing return check above global declarations
[05:17:57] 	03demon * r45064 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[05:17:58] 	Cleanup to r45062 (add Interwiki extension to core)
[05:17:58] 	* If we're going to extend SpecialPage, actually do it. Don't use this wfSpecialSomething() crap.
[05:17:58] 	* Clean up descriptions of Local/Trans. Most people don't know what Local/Trans mean for interwikis (I don't 100% get iw_local)
[05:29:04] 	!op Can someone ban jquiroga please?
[05:29:04] --mwbot--	Help, ops! Ashar, brion, Charitwo, Cometstyles, domas, Eloquence, Fire, flyingparchment, Hashar, JeLuF, jeronim, jwales, MinuteElectron, Splarka, VasilievVV, Werdna
[05:29:32] 	I think there's some sort of ban magic to redirect to ##please_fix_your_connection or something.
[05:29:45] 	hehe yeah
[05:29:59] 	+F or +J IIRC,something
[05:30:14] 	http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[05:30:15] 	+b *!n=jquiroga@213.37.71.237.dyn.user.ono.com!##fix_your_connection
[05:30:27] 	or that
[05:30:55] 	Thanks. :-)
[05:31:00] 	:D
[05:31:20] 	werdan7: can you make a smaller redirect like #FYC :P
[05:31:26] 	or ##FYC
[05:32:18] 	you could, but I think fix_your_conection is pretty clear :)
[05:32:21] 	Is anyone here running pywikipediabot?
[05:33:47] 	:p
[05:35:08] 	Joeyaa: What's your question?
[05:35:53] 	I can't get import.py to work
[05:36:13] 	Well, pywikipedia constantly changes as the software changes.
[05:36:26] 	It starts by asking if i want to import apple, if I say yes, it just says import:failed!, and if I say no, it closes
[05:36:33] 	I have the newest thing.
[05:36:42] 	So unless you're using the newest versions of both, it would be unsurprising to have breakage.
[05:36:52] 	Newest thing? How descriptive. :P
[05:37:51] 	Newest package
[05:38:15] 	How do you think I can fix it?
[05:39:01] 	Use a different bot? :-)
[05:39:03] 	Pywikipedia is a sort of a piece of shit. Though I doubt there are better options.
[05:40:20] 	Do you want to make me a better one ;)
[05:41:31] 	Heh. If I knew Python, I would've fixed this problem long ago. ;-)
[05:42:17] 	What other alternatives are there?
[05:43:06] 	What are you trying to do? Import a lot of pages?
[05:43:39] 	Atm yes
[05:44:35] 	Do you have commandline access?
[05:45:15] 	Commandline access?
[05:45:28] 	Command Prompt?
[05:45:40] 	The ability to run scripts directly on the MySQL database.
[05:45:50] 	I think there's a maintenance script to import pages...
[05:45:59] 	What is it?
[05:46:07] 	And how do I get the privellage/ability?
[05:46:22] 	Just depends on your configuration.
[05:46:37] 	Shared hosting / personal server / wikifarm / etc.
[05:46:37] 	I should...
[05:46:52] 	importTextFile.php can import text files and make them wiki pages..
[05:47:09] 	03(mod) Inconsistent timestamps when using LiquidThreads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15278  (10davemccabe)
[05:48:27] 	03(mod) Unreachable threads in RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16267  (10davemccabe)
[05:50:27] 	06(LATER) Indicate where the thread was moved to on placeholders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15133  (10davemccabe)
[05:50:29] 	06(LATER) On thread history page move items, indicate target and source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15134  (10davemccabe)
[05:50:45] 	But I want pages from Wikipedia
[05:51:43] 	A lot of them?
[05:51:49] 	yes
[05:52:02] 	A categories worth
[05:52:08] 	03(mod) deleting Thread:Image:foo.jpg_(1) appears to have also deleted Thread:foo.jpg_(1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15410  +comment (10davemccabe)
[05:52:28] 	03soxred93 * r45065 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (78 files): Localization update for Special:Interwiki
[05:52:41] <|X|>	Whew, what a lot of work that was
[05:57:56] 	mayday mayday
[05:58:38] <|X|>	Yes?
[05:59:32] 	getting some 1044 error when installing.. when selecting DB.. cant figure out what the problem is
[06:01:34] 	is there a way to have mediawiki export an article as XML?
[06:02:16] 	PsiPro: Special:Export ?
[06:02:43] 	03(FIXED) Format dates in a more attractive manner on archive pages. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15138  (10davemccabe)
[06:03:30] 	03david * r45066 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (Lqt.i18n.php LqtPages.php): Better date formats in archive browser. Fixes 15138. Archive browser is still a crock that we need to replace.
[06:03:30] 	03(WONTFIX) Ability to exclude actual content from RecentChanges page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16134  (10davemccabe)
[06:03:31] 	I was looking more for somthing that renders the templates etc., but transmits the sections in an XML format for use as a dataservice.
[06:03:47] 	Error selecting database wikidb: 1044 Access denied for user 'eternalblood_eu'@'%' to database 'wikidb'
[06:06:49] 	lal fixed the problem.. guess im just abit tired, forgot to change the db name from wikidb to eternalblood_eu
[06:13:48] 	03(mod) Number of "active users" is a rather confusing statistic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16775  summary; +comment (10public)
[06:15:39] 	 (mod) Number of "active users" is a rather confusing statistic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16775  summary; +comment (public)
[06:28:19] 	03(mod) Wikibits patch #6 - reverse sortable tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15403  (10mhorvath2161)
[06:38:11] 	03mrzman * r45067 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): add Special:Interwiki messages to messages.inc and rebuild MessagesEn.
[06:39:03] 	!e Interwiki
[06:39:03] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Interwiki
[06:40:12] 	!defaultsettings
[06:40:12] --mwbot--	For the current version of DefaultSettings.php, see: .
[06:45:24] 	I can haz interwiki rights?
[06:46:05] 	Somebody should probably note somewhere that that needs to be adjusted to only work at Meta for WMF...
[06:47:03] 	Hi would anyone be interested in helping me with a few MediaWiki questions?
[06:47:53] 	!ask | BentFrank
[06:47:53] --mwbot--	BentFrank: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[06:48:12] 	:O
[06:48:53] 	Okay I'll read that, thanks.  In the meantime, I'm editing the special page MediaWiki:Sidebar.  Where is there some help on how that page works?
[06:49:05] 	!sidebar
[06:49:05] --mwbot--	To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see .
[06:54:51] 	Yah that worked thank!
[06:55:27] 	Marrybelle, would you know of the specific parameters? I think that may be the problem?
[06:55:50] 	Apple is its default, so perhaps I just need to change the paramets, what is the setup
[06:55:56] 	parameters* 
[06:58:05] 	Heh, I thanked a bot...
[07:02:44] 	Next question, I want to back up my wiki.  Other than my changes to LocalSettings.php, is it enough just to copy the 'wikidb' dir from /var/lib/mysql?  I could ftp it to another computer.
[07:06:46] 	!backup | BentFrank 
[07:06:46] --mwbot--	BentFrank: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki
[07:07:33] 	03aaron * r45068 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Wiki.php index.php): 
[07:07:33] 	* Move filecache hits to faster lower level index.php code
[07:07:33] 	* Disable outputpage after file cache hit, since output was streamed already.
[07:08:17] 	Thanks, Marybelle.
[07:08:24] 	No problem.
[07:12:43] 	!help
[07:12:43] --mwbot--		Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html >
[07:13:07] 	BentFrank: Last link has all the stored snippets.
[07:15:56] 	:}
[07:22:12] 	http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,24844816-5014239,00.html   werdnum: so, you made it over the wall right? they didn't send the dogs after you while trying to escape?
[07:23:54] 	In LocalSettings.php, the vars $wgDBuser and $wgDBpassword refer to my wiki's mysql account, is that right?  I want to change that password, not a wiki user's password.  Do I do that in mysql logged in as root and then change LocalSettings.php?  Or is there a better way from within the wiki?
[07:26:46] 	!Pywikipediabot
[07:26:46] --mwbot--	pywikipediabot is a bot framework written in Python that allows for easier automated actions on a wiki. For more information, see .
[07:29:08] 	BentFrank: Change it in MySQL and then change it in LocalSettings.php.
[07:32:36] 	Thanks, I guess that is the obvious solution, but I'm afraid of hosing it, so a little reassurance helps.
[07:44:58] 	14(WFM) Add $wgDefaultSkinForAnons as a complement to $wgDefaultSkin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16790  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[07:48:00] 	03(mod) Certain Special: pages should not import JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16805  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[07:48:06] 	03siebrand * r45069 10/trunk/extensions/Interwiki/SpecialInterwiki.i18n.php: Update messages per r45064
[07:48:35] 	How do you create user group aliases exactly? Like Instead of (Sysop) in Special:ListUsers, alias it to (Administrator)?
[07:49:36] 	!Sysop
[07:49:36] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "sysop". You might try: !anonnotice !css !javascript !oversight !sitenotice 
[07:49:49] 	'group-sysop'         => 'Sysops',
[07:49:53] 	'group-sysop-member'         => 'Sysop',
[07:49:57] 	'grouppage-sysop'         => '{{ns:project}}:Administrators',
[07:50:03] 	you set those 3 messages for the group
[07:50:11] 	PseudoOne: MediaWiki:Group-{group}, MediaWiki:Group-{group}-member, MediaWiki:Grouppage-{group}
[07:50:14] 	oh, bastard.
[07:50:19] 	so like MediaWiki:Group-ninja
[07:50:21] 	heh
[07:50:46] 	!botnoob | Joeyaa
[07:50:46] --mwbot--	Joeyaa: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me.
[07:50:49] 	Can that be done in LocalSettings?
[07:51:07] 	No, do it on your wiki
[07:51:13] 	9_9
[07:51:17] 	do you want to actually rename your groups? you can if you want...
[07:51:20] 	go to the page names I said.
[07:51:29] 	(or create more groups, but note 'sysop' is still hard coded in some places)
[07:51:54] 	Splarka, do I run parameters in import.py to specify everything as a necessary part of it?
[07:52:09] 	this isn't really a python support channel
[07:53:31] 	Ya, but you are :)
[07:53:44] 	I know nothing about python and little about pywikipediabot
[07:56:02] 	Meep!
[07:56:08] 	Fatal error: Call to a member function selectRow() on a non-object in /var/www/w/includes/User.php on line 826
[07:56:16] 	you broke it
[07:56:21] 	yea IDK how
[07:56:25] 	lemme peek
[07:56:26] 	O_o
[07:56:58] 	I just deleted user and associated groups from the database
[07:57:57] 	line 826 is $s = $dbr->selectRow( 'user', '*', array( 'user_id' => $this->mId ),
[07:58:09] 	03siebrand * r45070 10/trunk/phase3/ (64 files in 2 dirs): 
[07:58:09] 	Follow up on r45062.
[07:58:09] 	* update optional settings
[07:58:09] 	* rebuild all messages files
[07:59:07] 	03siebrand * r45071 10/trunk/extensions/ (Interwiki/OBSOLETE Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt): 
[07:59:07] 	Follow up on r45062.
[07:59:07] 	* mark Interwiki OBSOLETE
[07:59:07] 	* remove Interwiki from Translate
[08:00:29] 	o_O
[08:00:32] 	Somebody merged Interwiki?
[08:00:37] 	Yes.
[08:00:39] 	Soxred.
[08:00:57] <^demon>	So various people cleaned up the merge.
[08:01:20] 	OH
[08:01:25] 	That would be a problem
[08:01:35] 	I replaced the dbuser with a username that doesn't exist
[08:01:49] 	werdnum:  Somebody should probably note somewhere that that needs to be adjusted to only work at Meta for WMF...
[08:02:17] <^demon>	That, and does it add links to the cache version WMF uses?
[08:02:43] 	One wonders.
[08:02:55] 	I thought WMF couldn't use it at all due to security issues or something...
[08:03:10] 	Otherwise somebody would've cronjobbed the syncing script years ago.
[08:03:46] 	03(mod) Ability to exclude actual content from RecentChanges page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16134  +comment (10Andrew)
[08:04:13] <^demon>	No, it doesn't actually.
[08:04:24] 	Eh?
[08:04:51] <^demon>	No, it doesn't work with the cached version.
[08:04:58] 	Ah.
[08:05:01] 	^demon: Fair warning, some people might get upset at disabling JS on UserRights (I think Pathoschild in particular uses it for a steward script or two). 
[08:05:24] <^demon>	:-\
[08:05:34] <^demon>	ChangePassword needs it though.
[08:05:51] 	Indeed.
[08:06:02] 	And I believe UserLogin still imports Gadgets, so that could be looked at.
[08:06:09] 	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12763#c5 <-- This is about Interwiki security.
[08:07:58] 	03(mod) Wikibits patch #5 - performance optimizations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15402  (10mhorvath2161)
[08:08:17] *Marybelle 	goes to comment at Special:CodeReview!
[08:08:30] 	I think I have access there...
[08:10:24] <^demon>	There needs to be a way to save interwikis from the Interwiki class.
[08:11:43] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45062
[08:12:02] 	^demon: ^
[08:13:22] <^demon>	ok.
[08:13:39] 	I didn't mention the last part.
[08:13:50] 	About Interwiki class (whatever the hell that is).
[08:13:59] 	Stay classy, interwikis.
[08:15:10] 	03mrzman * r45072 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[08:15:10] 	cleanup of Special:Interwiki:
[08:15:10] 	* Use Xml functions for most of it
[08:15:11] 	* Conform ids/names to coding conventions
[08:16:38] 	Should CharInsert really be merged into core?
[08:17:24] 	consult the holy texts at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/List_of_extensions_to_be_merged_to_the_core for they spaketh only true
[08:17:34] 	I just edited that page.
[08:17:35] 	"Validation Output:  552 Errors "
[08:17:37] <^demon>	You know, a lot of the logic in dumpInterwiki.inc could be moved to the Interwiki class...
[08:17:41] 	I was asking for opinions. :P
[08:17:42] 	...
[08:18:31] 	Splarka: Protip: Editing certain pages at MW.org can give you Brion-like authority. ;-)
[08:19:03] 	Nobody reads page histories or signs their comments...
[08:19:09] 	you're a tip
[08:19:32] 	You're a charinsert.
[08:19:36] 	03mrzman * r45073 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialInterwiki.php: XHTML fixes
[08:19:51] 	!r 45073
[08:19:51] --mwbot--	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=45073
[08:20:07] 	03(mod) Wikibits patch #5 - performance optimizations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15402  (10mhorvath2161)
[08:20:34] 	MrZ-man:  <-- Is that right?
[08:20:35] 	^ SharkD still at it
[08:20:36] 	No mw- ?
[08:20:53] 	damn it
[08:21:34] 	03mrzman * r45074 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialInterwiki.php: slight fix to last commit :P
[08:22:46] 	PHP Strict Standards:  Declaration of SpecialInterwiki::execute() should be compatible with that of SpecialPage::execute() in /var/www/w/includes/specials/SpecialInterwiki.php on line 253
[08:23:22] 	!delete page
[08:23:22] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "delete". You might try: !deleteuser !protect !worstcase 
[08:23:40] 	Joeyaa: Whatcha trying to do?
[08:23:41] 	How do you delete a page? (Noob question)
[08:23:49] 	Are you logged in as an admin?
[08:23:52] 	yup
[08:24:00] 	You should have a "delete" tab on the specific page.
[08:24:10] 	Next to "protect" and "move" and such.
[08:26:03] 	I think AssertEdit is on the same level as CharInsert.
[08:29:08] 	Wait, how do I import?
[08:30:20] 	Special:Import.
[08:31:33] *Joeyaa 	is tired
[08:39:33] 	Marybelle, you wouldn't happen to know a way to categorize all articles?
[08:39:41] 	Edit them all?
[08:39:50] 	Why would you categorize all of them?
[08:39:52] 	With pywikipediabot?
[08:40:09] 	Atm, they are all copied Wikipedia, so we want to reflect that tam
[08:40:16] 	atm*
[08:40:28] 	03siebrand * r45075 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Set $wgGroupPermissions for interwiki from sysop to bureaucrat to prevent accidents.
[08:42:53] 	siebrand: Accidents?
[08:43:15] 	siebrand: On a standard install, sysop probably makes much more sense than bureaucrat for that right...
[08:43:57] 	Marybelle: I respectfully disagree.
[08:44:07] 	Why's that?
[08:44:22] 	'accidents' are fun, like bureaucrats having access to edituser on test...
[08:44:28] 	Brion mentioned some type of security risk, but I still don't see it..
[08:44:45] 	but wmf is weird, in that bureaucrats are a demoted group
[08:48:34] 	siebrand? :-)
[08:49:27] 	03(mod) Ability to exclude actual content from RecentChanges page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16134  (10davemccabe)
[08:56:38] 	03siebrand * r45076 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (53 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2008-12-27 09:49 CET)
[09:00:25] 	Marybelle, what is the thing you need to add to MediaWiki to get welcome.py to work?
[09:00:37] 	Dunno, sorry.
[09:03:05] 	Do you know of a way to get it to add one line to a set page(s) ?
[09:03:53] 	Nope.
[09:10:17] 	 Using mysqldump to back up my wiki, I run it as -u wikiuser (with password).  It says wikiuser can't use LOCK TABLES (a default in mysqldump).  I'm sure no one else is using the wiki.  Is it ok to turn off LOCK TABLES in mysqldump?
[09:16:45] 	03siebrand * r45077 10/trunk/extensions/ (192 files in 179 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2008-12-27 09:49 CET)
[09:27:47] 	03siebrand * r45078 10/trunk/phase3/ (41 files in 2 dirs): 
[09:27:47] 	* Remove obsolete message 'interwiki-desc'
[09:27:47] 	* Update message documentation a bit (also removed a syntax error from MessagesQqq.php).
[09:30:54] 	It's late.  I'll ask again tomorrow.  Thanks again.
[09:49:42] 	gday, can I ask questions about upgrade problems here, or is there somewhere better? (I've read the FAQ)
[09:50:21] 	Just ask.
[09:50:58] 	I upgraded to the latest stable but I'm getting the following error: http://www.theopendisc.com/wiki/
[09:51:54] 	i ran through the standard upgrade steps, but it all went south after I uploaded the new files - i left the necessary ones, so it's not that
[09:52:21] 	looks to me like you forgot to upload some files or mixed up old with new
[09:52:58] 	filezilla said it was all successful, so perhaps it skipped something instead of overwriting
[09:53:59] 	guess i'll try it again
[09:55:34] 	it's easier to upgrade when you don't overwrite but write everything to a new folder
[09:55:41] 	this way, old files that shouldn't be there are deleted as well
[09:55:57] 	once you're sure the new installation works, you can delete the old folder and move in the new one
[09:56:19] 	if you forge this into a script, it's even easier to upgrade
[09:56:48] 	i'll give that a go if this doesn't work
[09:57:16] 	you can base it on mine: https://nsis.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/nsis/web-scripts/trunk/updatewiki.sh
[09:57:19] 	03rotem * r45079 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[09:57:57] 	thanks for the link
[10:05:19] 	i have an extension that uses $wgParesr->preprocess to make sure templates in links get substituted, but it seems to ruin the entire processing of the page. it fails to process any more custom tags i made and tags it already processed remain as UNIQ-xxx-QINU. how should i be calling preprocess() or is there something else i should be using?
[10:06:53] 	i think i'm somehow causing generation of a new $wgParser->mUniqPrefix
[10:07:14] 	actually, it stays the same
[10:11:29] 	using replaceVariables() directly works, but it's private
[10:15:27] 	actually, it is replacing $wgParesr->mUniqPrefix! it's clearState() that ruins everything...
[10:27:09] 	PHP Notice:  Undefined variable: encPrefix in /var/www/w/includes/specials/SpecialInterwiki.php on line 42
[10:27:18] 	Use case: tried to remove an interwiki prefix.
[10:39:30] 	03siebrand * r45080 10/trunk/extensions/MiniPreview/MiniPreview.i18n.php: Reworded a few messages, added line breaks. No need to update translations as far as I can assess.
[11:05:02] 	i've just uploaded all the new files and made sure that adminsettings.php is correct, and the next step is to run update.php
[11:05:11] 	can i do that from the web browser?
[11:05:37] 	because if i try my wordpress installation jumps in and gives me a 404
[11:11:41] 	if anybody could help that'd be great, leave me a pm if you like so it doesn't get buried overnight
[11:18:11] 	ChrisCGray: no
[11:20:19] 	Can I use pywikipediabot to delete all the categories on a page?
[11:23:12] 	Is it?
[11:26:16] 	OverlordQ: so i have to find a way to run it server side then?
[11:26:30] 	rats
[11:26:51] 	!upgrading
[11:26:51] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[11:27:16] 	you want 6.3
[11:27:51] 	phpshell, got it, thanks
[11:28:03] 	or just re-run the installer
[11:29:43] 	i did try that already, it told me just to "copy localsettings.php to the parent directory" without visually doing anything
[11:30:03] 	i did as it said and got the same error as before,
[11:30:55] 	so i'll have to try phpshell out, as i'm all out of options
[11:31:17] 	if you're re-running the installer
[11:31:28] 	just delete the copy of LocalSettings that's in config/ and move your old one back
[11:33:47] 	hmm that got me one step closer, now i've got an sql error
[11:33:48] 	from within function "Title::loadRestrictions". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'chriscg_opendiscwiki.mwiki_page_restrictions' doesn't exist (localhost)".
[11:34:09] 	guess i could just manually create that?
[11:34:30] 	and you did run the installer again after uploading?
[11:35:24] 	hrm, i thought that's what i just did
[11:36:15] 	i didn't run update.php if that's what you mean, i just removed localsettings.php and browsed the wiki, it said to move localsettings to the parent dir
[11:37:01] 	reading the link you sent me,
[11:37:07] 	move localsettings.php to localsettings.old
[11:37:26] 	i get to step 4. and instead of any form fields or anything, it just tells me to move localsettings
[11:37:35] 	okay
[11:37:42] 	it means you copied the LocalSettings.php in config instead of moving it
[11:39:40] 	i just renamed both and browsed the wiki,
[11:40:23] 	it told me to set up the wiki first, i clicked on it, and it sent me to /config.index.php, problem being the wordpress installer in the root directory picks that up and gives me a 404
[11:41:26] 	using short urls?
[11:41:45] 	http://www.theopendisc.com/wiki/config/index.php
[11:41:56] 	how should i write it instead?
[11:42:29] 	03siebrand * r45081 10/trunk/extensions/EditUser/1.14/EditUser_body.php: FIXME: broken. Language::getSkinNames() was removed in r45031.
[11:43:34] 	03siebrand * r45082 10/trunk/extensions/EditUser/EditUser.i18n.php: Reword 'right-edituser-exempt'
[11:44:38] 	we're you using short-urls on your wiki?
[11:51:25] 	how are short urls formatted? i'm fairly sure i wasn't
[11:51:52] 	like wikipedia
[11:52:06] 	http://example.com/w/index.php?title=Page_title
[11:52:45] 	like that, so no
[11:52:46] 	config folder is readable and writeable by the web server?
[11:52:51] 	777
[11:54:23] 	but the wiki is in a folder named wiki?
[11:55:05] 	yep
[11:56:22] 	odd
[11:57:50] 	i'm glad it's not something i'm overlooking, because i've been through all the hoops and i really can't see what's wrong
[11:58:21] 	perhaps i should do a clean install into a new directory, and try to import the data into it
[11:58:52] 	I'm running mwdumper on osx and was wondering how long it takes to write to a file? I've had it running for a few minutes and still the output file says zero
[11:59:12] 	This is the command I am using: "java -jar mwdumper-2008-04-13.jar --output=file:quote-dump.sql --format=sql:1.5 --filter=latest --filter=notalk"
[12:04:29] 	does mwdumper work on osx?
[12:05:04] 	OverlordQ: i have to sleep, if you have any other ideas please do PM them to me, and thanks for spending time helping out
[12:05:13] 	memload: should do
[12:06:27] 	how long should it take to actually start writing the output to file?
[12:06:42] 	almost straight away? or does it have to prepare anything?
[12:07:11] 	almost instant
[12:07:52] 	hmm this is strange
[12:08:17] 	ah. I know why. I havn't even gave it an input file. lmao
[12:10:10] 	ah its working now.
[12:21:25] 	03siebrand * r45083 10/trunk/extensions/ContributorsAddon/ContributorsAddon.i18n.php: Simplify 'contributorsaddon-desc' per Nikerabbit
[12:22:22] 	03(mod)  Change position of link to last flagged revisions on RC and watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16801  (10JSchulz_4587)
[12:25:26] 	03siebrand * r45084 10/trunk/extensions/PSINoTocNum/PSINoTocNum.i18n.php: Using nowiki once will do. Per Nikerabbit.
[12:30:36] 	03(mod)  Change position of link to last flagged revisions on RC and watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16801  (10pbirken)
[12:33:32] 	03siebrand * r45085 10/trunk/extensions/uniwiki/MooTools12core/MooTools12core.i18n.php: Provide a little more information in 'mootools12core-desc'. Per Nikerabbit.
[12:36:12] 	03aaron * r45086 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ApiCodeUpdate.php: Add some diff caching
[12:38:33] 	03(mod)  Unicode combining characters are difficult to edit in some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16697  (10lang.support)
[12:43:06] 	03(mod) rename process problem on pl.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16721  (10JSchulz_4587)
[12:44:11] 	03(mod) rename process problem on pl.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16721  (10JSchulz_4587)
[12:48:21] 	03aaron * r45087 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevision.php: Break line
[12:52:23] 	before importing the sql (created from the xml dump) ... do I need the correct tables already created? I'm not creating a mirror but using "some" of the content from the wikiquote dump. Would I still need to use maintenance/tables.sql and then modify that as needed? 
[13:12:29] 	hi ialex 
[13:12:48] 	hello werdnum
[13:15:01] 	03siebrand * r45088 10/trunk/extensions/DeleteBatch/ (DeleteBatch.body.php DeleteBatch.i18n.php DeleteBatch.php): (log message trimmed)
[13:15:02] 	Fix some bugs, update default, and improve i18n:
[13:15:02] 	* always set $OldUser to prevent notices
[13:15:02] 	* check mMode instead of undefined wpMode to prevent notice
[13:15:02] 	* default allowed for bureaucrats instead of non-existing group 'staff'
[13:15:05] 	* remove use of "click here", changed 'deletebatch-link-back', removed 'deletebatch-here'
[13:15:07] 	* changed 'deletebatch-processing' adding a para to allow better L10n and substitution for 'deletebatch-from-file' and 'deletebatch-from-form'
[13:17:30] 	how are you ialex?
[13:18:37] 	ialex / werdnum: need a little help if you can... http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support#Interwiki_local
[13:24:53] 	Is it possible to delete entire sections of articles with the bot?
[13:25:02] 	Pywikipediabot?
[13:27:50] 	werdnum: fine, and you?
[13:28:33] 	siebrand: the definition given by SPQRobin is correct
[13:31:02] 	ialex: I'm okay. Seeing my gf for the last time in 3 months tomorrow.
[13:31:24] 	werdnum: hehe :)
[13:32:51] 	then heading off to SF
[13:32:55] 	03aaron * r45089 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (bug 16774) Save CodeReview diffs to database instead of transitory cache
[13:33:39] 	werdnum: meeting with brion? :)
[13:33:57] 	03(FIXED) Save CodeReview diffs to database instead of transitory cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16774  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[13:35:24] 	03(mod)  Change position of link to last flagged revisions on RC and watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16801  (10JSchulz_4587)
[13:36:10] 	03ialex * r45090 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (User.php specials/SpecialInterwiki.php): 
[13:36:10] 	Tweaks to Special:Interwiki:
[13:36:10] 	* Splitted SpecialInterwiki::execute() in multiple functions
[13:36:10] 	* using OutputPage::addWikiMsg() and OutputPage::wrapWikiMsg() when possible
[13:36:10] 	* using $res->fetchObject() and $res->free() rather than $dbr->fetchObject() and $dbr->freeResult()
[13:36:13] 	* Removed 'interwiki' restrict passed to parent::__construct() so that it appears in Special:SpecialPages for everybody
[13:36:16] 	* Added missing 'interwiki' entry to User::$mCoreRights
[13:38:16] 	03siebrand * r45091 10/trunk/extensions/ (Asksql/Asksql.php DeleteBatch/DeleteBatch.php): Set $wgSpecialPageGroups for Asksql and DeleteBatch
[13:41:39] 	03(mod)  Unicode combining characters are difficult to edit in some browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16697  (10Gerard.meijssen)
[13:42:27] 	03(mod) UTF-8 for the mediawiki-cvs-request digest mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16142  15enhancement->major (10Gerard.meijssen)
[14:01:38] 	03(mod) Wikibits patch #5 - performance optimizations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15402  +comment (10x00000000)
[14:04:59] 	hello everyone, is there a way to force a newline in a mediawiki script? just putting in a newline doesn't work if there's not at least one character before it
[14:06:18] 	ChrisiPK, 
 works, afaik
[14:06:27] 	or 
[14:06:37] 	
 just generates a newline in output
[14:06:43] 	i need a newline in the script, not in the output
[14:06:47] 	will try the nowiki hack, thanks
[14:07:50] 	ah big thx ialex, that did the trick
[14:08:26] 	ChrisiPK, what do you mean, "script"?
[14:08:44] 	mati|gajim, the actual page source code
[14:08:48] 	in mediawiki script
[14:10:46] 	ChrisiPK, you mean, in the mediawiki syntax, you want to start the page with a newline?
[14:11:14] 	mati|gajim, the problem i have is this: i am including templates inside a table
[14:11:26] 	and the template i am including generates a new row of the table
[14:11:44] 	so the mediawiki table syntax requires a newline before the |-
[14:12:35] 	but if it only creates a new row, you need to have a '{|' before that anyway?
[14:13:06] 	i do have that
[14:13:35] 	so, you have a character in front of that?
[14:13:37] 	the row-creating template is included into another template which starts the table
[14:13:47] 	i do
[14:13:54] 	the problem is, this was in an {{#if}}-statemen
[14:13:55] 	t
[14:14:01] 	and i don't have a character in that one
[14:14:05] 	so it didn'nt work
[14:14:11] 	*didn't
[14:14:26] 	you mean, the #if creates no character?
[14:14:31] 	yes
[14:14:34] 	just have a look at http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AChrisiPK%2Fflickr&diff=17195264&oldid=17195246
[14:14:39] 	makes things a lot easier ;)
[14:15:14] 	ChrisiPK http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions#Newlines_and_spaces
[14:15:22] 	have you read that?
[14:15:30] 	no
[14:15:37] 	i didn't even know there was a page about that on meta
[14:16:36] 	The help is, for some reason, still on meta
[14:18:27] 	ChrisiPK, does that help?
[14:18:41] 	yes, i fixed it by using the nowiki already, thanks :)
[14:18:53] 	ChrisiPK, thats good to hear :-P
[14:33:41] 	03siebrand * r45092 10/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Follow up on r44724 (Remove some less-useful redundant links from sidebar): remove bug reports link completely.
[14:36:56] 	03ialex * r45093 10/trunk/extensions/ (9 files in 3 dirs): svn:eol-style native
[14:37:09] 	03(mod) Intentional use of multiple DEFAULTSORT blocked - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16755  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[14:37:21] 	ialex is our svn:eol-style native nazi.
[14:38:22] 	must be a windows user
[14:38:29] 	werdnum: xD
[14:38:39] 	Duesentrieb__: no ;)
[14:39:15] 	suure
[15:09:43] 	03siebrand * r45094 10/trunk/extensions/Crosswiki/Block/CrosswikiBlock.i18n.php: Reword 'crosswikiblock-nousername'
[15:12:49] 	03ashley * r45095 10/trunk/extensions/RefreshSpecial/ (4 files): (log message trimmed)
[15:12:49] 	RefreshSpecial tweaks:
[15:12:49] 	*mark function visibility
[15:12:49] 	*delay message loading
[15:12:49] 	*add license (per wikia's google code page)
[15:12:49] 	*doxygen comment tweaks
[15:12:49] 	*altered Finnish special page alias a bit (I'd assume that this extension would be used to update two or more special pages at a time, not just one ;-)
[15:12:51] 	03siebrand * r45096 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Set optional for layouts-layoutcategorypage
[15:25:32] 	03siebrand * r45097 10/trunk/extensions/RefreshSpecial/ (RefreshSpecial.body.php RefreshSpecial.i18n.php): Remove use of "click here", changed 'refreshspecial-link-back', removed 'refreshspecial-here'. Same as changed in r45088 for DeleteBatch
[15:38:41] 	03(NEW) Please enable subpages for main namespace for is.wikt - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16808 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (spacebirdy)
[15:41:45] 	03siebrand * r45098 10/trunk/extensions/DeleteBatch/DeleteBatch.i18n.php: Add 'right-deletebatch' message
[15:49:01] 	you havn't though of changing from svn to some more decentralized vcsii?
[15:49:40] 	anyone know where I can get the tables.sql file for wikiquotes ?
[16:02:30] 	moin
[16:03:05] 	"new" isn't in the wikipedia interwiki sql ... 
[16:03:06] 	http://new.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%82_%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%8C
[16:03:12] 	just file a bug for that?
[16:04:30] 	what do you mean?
[16:05:58] 	# grep new wikipedia-interwiki.sql 
[16:05:58] 	('n','http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/$1',1),
[16:06:20] 	but new: is used as an interwiki prefix on enwp
[16:06:24] 	and elsewhere
[16:08:05] 	e.g., on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Europe
[16:28:17] 	03siebrand * r45099 10/trunk/extensions/RefreshSpecial/ (3 files): (log message trimmed)
[16:28:18] 	Various fixes, update default, and improve i18n:
[16:28:18] 	* no access to special page when no rights
[16:28:18] 	* default allowed for bureaucrats instead of non-existing group 'staff'
[16:28:18] 	* set $wgSpecialPageGroups
[16:28:18] 	* add plural support for various messages
[16:28:20] 	* remove need to add leading/trailing spaces to 'refreshspecial-select-all-pages'
[16:41:54] 	03(NEW) documentation gives wrong hints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16809 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: MWSearch; (mati)
[16:42:57] 	03(NEW) Validation doesn' t work for multiple template mandatory fields with preloaded data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16810 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (mnkutster)
[16:59:31] 	03(NEW) Text overflows image/table following #mw-revisiontag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16811 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (marcin.cieslak)
[17:04:50] 	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on he.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14648  (10dovijacobs)
[17:14:06] 	CRISTMAS GREETINGS:
[18:19:53] 	03(NEW) Request for a Dutch version of labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16812 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Woudloper)
[18:21:40] 	03(NEW) On huwikinews cl_timestamp updated unexpectedly, causing trouble with Intersection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16813 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (gondnok345)
[18:22:38] 	03(mod) Don't offer meaningless protection levels (e.g., move= autoconfirmed with moves restricted to autoconfirmed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16791  +comment (10nospam)
[19:10:29] 	ANYBODY SEE ME ?
[19:10:45] 	yes
[19:10:49] 	OK
[19:10:51] 	GOOD
[19:10:55] 	its working :)
[19:11:02] 	don't use caps
[19:11:07] 	sorry
[19:11:29] *Marybelle 	waves.
[19:11:32] 	Platonides, but its cruise control for cool :(
[19:11:43] 	Platonides: I want to start a new project using MediaWiki software
[19:11:52] 	but I really dont know how is it possible..
[19:11:55] *Marybelle 	sprinkles apostrophes into the channel.
[19:12:00] 	;)
[19:12:15] 	!gettingstarted
[19:12:15] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "gettingstarted".
[19:12:20] 	silly bot
[19:12:22] 	Chowdhury, you just need a server, with PHP and some db, mysql recommended
[19:12:46] 	can anybody help me in creating a new wiki using Mediawiki software?
[19:12:59] 	Chowdhury, if you sign up with dreamhost
[19:13:03] 	they have "1 click installs"
[19:13:54] 	what is dreamhost ??? Wiki software or hosting company ??
[19:13:56] 	which does most of the install work for you
[19:14:01] 	Its a web hosting company
[19:14:45] 	well I have hosting
[19:14:56] 	but I just need to know how can I create a wiki
[19:15:08] 	if you have php and mysql
[19:15:15] 	you can upload the necessary files, and run the install script
[19:16:14] 	!installationguide
[19:16:14] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "installationguide".
[19:16:14] 	!install
[19:16:14] --mwbot--	Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download
[19:16:22] *Marybelle 	<-- Winnar.
[19:16:26] 	:(
[19:16:27] 	well if i tell you password and Id of my hosting account, which you do it me on behalf of me ?
[19:16:38] 	its really not difficult
[19:16:53] 	ok let me start
[19:16:56] 	are you with me
[19:17:05] *OverlordQ 	ponders trying to tacking CentralAuth again
[19:17:07] 	or can i catch you to private box ?
[19:17:25] 	*tackle
[19:18:17] 	OverlordQ, rugby style?
[19:18:32] 	maybe
[19:18:45] 	REEDY: what i have to upload on hosting site ?
[19:18:49] 	I'm just trying to find a way to so stupid shared logins on multiple wikis and it's being a PITA
[19:18:52] 	*do
[19:19:18] 	Chowdhury, http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.13/mediawiki-1.13.3.tar.gz
[19:19:31] 	Download and extra that archive, then upload those files (or upload the archive and extract it)
[19:20:15] 	*extract
[19:20:32] 	ok let me start
[19:21:07] 	there's a guide for writing AuthPlugins about isn't there?
[19:21:24] 	would've thought so
[19:22:05] 	ok Reedy
[19:22:13] 	cuz I think that's going to be the best route
[19:22:17] 	its downloaded
[19:22:17] 	now ?
[19:22:40] 	extract the files from the archive
[19:22:54] 	but it is not opening, format is unrecognized to my PC
[19:23:07] 	Windows?
[19:24:28] 	VISTA Starter
[19:24:48] 	http://www.7-zip.org/
[19:26:12] 	let me download extractor :(
[19:30:12] 	wheres everyone gone?
[19:32:21] 	03ialex * r45100 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/stats.php: Added new line so that it doesn't break output
[19:32:49] 	Reedy : are you there ?
[19:32:53] 	yes
[19:34:43] 	keep here , i just start downloading extractor now
[19:35:12] 	i'll be back in a few
[19:36:50] 	ok
[19:36:57] 	i'll be wating
[19:51:58] 	Reedy:
[19:52:12] 	files are extracted
[19:52:21] 	now ?
[19:56:53] 	upload them to wherever you want them on your web osting
[19:57:47] 	ok
[19:57:47] 	then?
[19:58:17] 	try and access it
[19:58:21] 	it'll give you the setup script
[19:58:49] 	moin
[19:58:51] 	03raymond * r45101 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[19:58:51] 	* Bug 16484 Remove an unneeded extra comma in user rights log (and other lists)
[19:58:51] 	** Removed the comma from MediaWiki:and (@Translatewiki staff: no fuzzying needed)
[19:58:51] 	** Special case for two messages in log
[19:58:51] 	** Function description updated
[19:58:52] 	Based on a patch by Nakon
[19:59:13] 	how can I create a new Wiki project
[19:59:39] 	04(REOPENED) Performance optimization for sortable tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15402  summary; +comment (10brion)
[19:59:42] 	Sit in the corner and cry?
[19:59:49] 	lolol
[19:59:51] 	!install Chowdhury 
[19:59:51] --mwbot--	Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download
[20:00:45] 	03(FIXED) User rights log adds extra comma when unneeded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16484  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[20:02:07] 	bah, I commit-conflicted with Raymond_ on MessagesEn
[20:02:18] *Raymond_ 	hides
[20:02:50] 	03mrzman * r45102 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[20:02:50] 	more Special:Interwiki cleanup:
[20:02:50] 	* standardize the error message display
[20:02:50] 	* show the form after an edit/delete error and preload the fields with the previous input
[20:02:50] 	* quick filter for bad characters
[20:05:27] 	03(mod) User rights log adds extra comma when unneeded - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16484  +comment (10charitwo)
[20:14:31] 	MrZ-man: you should use Xml::tags() rather than Xml::element() in SpecialInterwiki::error(), since the latter escapes the content
[20:17:43] 	03(mod) User rights log adds extra comma when unneeded - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16484  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[20:18:20] 	03mrzman * r45103 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialInterwiki.php: use Xml::tags() instead of Xml::element() in SpecialInterwiki::error() so as not to escape the content
[20:18:22] 	ialex: ^
[20:18:49] 	thanks :)
[20:21:45] 	03(NEW) Require active confirmation when Re-blocking a user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16814 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Blocking; (church.of.emacs.ml)
[20:25:54] 	03rotem * r45104 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[20:30:48] 	03raymond * r45105 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: Remove unused parameter
[20:36:49] 	03(mod) User rights log adds extra comma when unneeded - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16484  (10charitwo)
[21:14:27] 	03(NEW) Strange behavior of bullet numbering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16815 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (LSander153)
[21:15:44] 	03raymond * r45106 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Linker.php): 
[21:15:44] 	* (bug 16617) Add "talk" link to list of templates in edit mode
[21:15:44] 	Based on a patch by Nakon
[21:17:10] 	03(FIXED) Add "talk" link to 	hey
[21:25:07] 	when i move a page, how can i delete the old one
[21:25:38] 	Skizzerz: when using GlobalCssjs how do I add user global css/js? (user specific)
[21:26:02] 	go to the central wiki and create User:Myname/global.css or User:Myname/global.js
[21:26:59] 	thanks
[21:29:07] 	jbalint, the redirect need to be deleted by a sysop
[21:29:15] 	how to do it?
[21:29:23] 	use the delete tab
[21:29:38] 	but it is redirected, i've moved the page and want to delete the redirect
[21:30:22] 	click on the "redirected from" link
[21:30:38] 	ah, thanks!
[21:30:42] 	:)
[21:35:38] 	rar
[21:41:44] 	Charitwo: ra died a long time ago
[21:41:48] 	rar*
[21:41:56] 	iyo
[21:43:15] 	http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee130/OuterHaven160/a_winrar_is_you.jpg
[21:46:15] 	what exactly does this mean?    1. The new namespaces can be searched by default, by enabling their variables in $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault
[21:46:38] 	i'm trying to list all namespaces in the 'allpages' list
[21:50:33] 	that Search variable doesn't apply to Special:Allpages, Allpages isn't a search
[21:50:47] 	as far as I know, there is no way to get Allpages to list all namespaces at once
[21:50:54] 	ok
[22:07:32] 	03(NEW) Should be possible to mark actions (delete, protect, etc.) as bot - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16816 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (public)
[22:11:28] 	Splarka: ^ Prediction to WONTFIX?
[22:12:27] 	well
[22:13:01] 	I bet it will get a submitted patch, a fringe committer will commit it, mark as FIXED, brion will revert it, it'll get reopened, and then sit there and stagnate for a few years
[22:13:39] 	hi again
[22:13:47] 	my wiki is still being weird with deletion
[22:14:04] 	Splarka: :-(
[22:14:09] 	It's probably a dupe.
[22:14:33] 	if I log out and try and delete something, it comes up with the "Permission error" message. But if I try logged in, it just goes to a non-wiki error page.
[22:15:49] 	and I can delete stuff if I am deleting to make way for a move
[22:15:56] 	and I deleted a mediawiki page earlier
[22:16:21] 	OMG
[22:16:27] 	I can still delete mediawiki pages
[22:16:33] 	just not other pages :/
[22:16:37] 	oh and images as well
[22:18:19] 	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12574 REOPENED... ?
[22:18:47] 	Marybelle: well, your scipe is wider
[22:18:56] 	including actions, including non-bots with 'markbotedit'
[22:18:59] 	^scope
[22:19:04] 	Yes, it is.
[22:19:08] 	that's what she said
[22:19:28] 	can *anybody* help??
[22:20:02] 	MZM: so verify... that 'bot' can mark an edit as bot or not, selectively, in the UI and API, and same for 'markbotedit', I doubt all 8 cases are covered (for edits)
[22:20:32] 	Verifying is boring.
[22:27:59] 	:'(
[22:29:10] 	03(mod) Ability to exclude actual content from RecentChanges page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16134  (10wikimedia-bugs)
[22:30:01] 	03(mod) Request for a Dutch version of labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16812  +comment (10Woudloper)
[22:35:16] 	I'll just have to use nuke...
[22:35:41] 	:O
[22:36:02] 	ask wimt he runs a personal wiki, he might know whats wrong O_O
[22:44:00] 	03(mod) Restore "whatlinkshere" and "related changes" links in sidebar for classic skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16786  (10paul.copperman)
[22:45:48] 	03(mod) Request for a Dutch version of labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16812   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[22:54:12] 	Comets, I added the Deletebatch extension
[22:54:22] 	Comets, there are people here who wrote the software :)
[22:54:33] 	03(mod) Text overflows image/table following #mw-revisiontag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16811  (10JSchulz_4587)
[22:54:40] 	since it's only me editing it, it's fine to just use Delete batch
[23:07:32] 	Hi all. I want to show sitenotice for all pages except mainpage. This is achievable? :)
[23:10:36] 	body.page-Main_Page #sitenotice {display:none;}
[23:11:02] 	what exactly is asitenotice?
[23:11:39] 	:P
[23:12:03] 	oops, #siteNotice ,camelpwned
[23:12:05] 	that big banner which we all hate on top of every page ^_^
[23:12:43] 	Splarka: tnx :-)
[23:13:06] 	Aleksandrit: depends on your main page name of course, but view the page source, the  tag has a css class, and the sitenotice has an ID
[23:13:34] 	Comets, you mean that donation thing on top?
[23:13:56] 	Splarka: Yes, I understand. It is already working. Thanks again :)
[23:15:11] 	mati|gajim: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sitenotice
[23:15:57] 	ah
[23:16:21] 	(damn, mcabber has a nasty bug)
[23:23:31] 	how can I change the title of a page?
[23:25:14] 	Majorly: The move tab?
[23:25:14] 	Majorly, move it.
[23:25:20] 	no...
[23:25:26] 	the title in the html
[23:25:29] 	
[23:25:41] <Majorly>	I want it to appear differently
[23:25:43] <Marybelle>	Depends. Just the Main Page?
[23:25:50] <Majorly>	yes
[23:26:09] <mati|mcabber>	Majorly: move the main page?
[23:26:14] <Majorly>	no...
[23:26:19] <Majorly>	I want the page kept where it is
[23:26:19] <Marybelle>	[[MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage]] assuming you're running a pretty new copy of MW.
[23:26:26] <Majorly>	but have a different title at the top
[23:26:31] <Marybelle>	Simetrical wrote that feature. ;-)
[23:26:55] <Comets>	npe, that centralnotice 
[23:27:06] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictDisplayTitle  requires 1.14
[23:27:09] <Majorly>	is there a way to have it just blank, like on English Wikipedia?
[23:27:16] <Comets>	gtg
[23:27:34] <Marybelle>	Majorly: It's not blank on the English Wikipedia. Just set to "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
[23:27:44] <Marybelle>	See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Pagetitle-view-mainpage
[23:27:58] <Majorly>	normally it would say Main Page - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[23:28:05] <mati|mcabber>	Marybelle, you can set it to blank using CSS
[23:28:17] <Splarka>	CSS can't edit <title>
[23:28:51] <mati|mcabber>	damn, I should read the entire chat
[23:29:04] <Majorly>	I just want it to be like the main page on Wikipedia, w/out the actual page title. Just the project name
[23:29:19] <Splarka>	are you running 1.13 or 1.14?
[23:29:25] <Majorly>	1.13
[23:29:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Ability to exclude actual content from RecentChanges page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16134  (10davemccabe)
[23:29:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikibits patch #6 - reverse sortable tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15403  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:30:07] <Splarka>	the two options mentioned above are 1.14 I believe
[23:30:20] <Majorly>	damn
[23:30:23] <Splarka>	but you could install the ParserFunctions extension and #ifeq MediaWiki:Pagetitle
[23:30:38] <Marybelle>	Yep.
[23:30:47] <Splarka>	{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Main Page||$1 -}} {{SITENAME}}
[23:30:47] <Majorly>	where would I add that last bit
[23:30:57] <Majorly>	ok
[23:31:03] <Splarka>	or such
[23:31:08] <Majorly>	mm
[23:32:07] <Splarka>	this is not done on Wikipedia (was in the past) because of the cumulative overhead in processing that message with a parser function for every page re-render
[23:33:10] <Marybelle>	That was more nstab, but yeah.
[23:33:26] <Splarka>	hmm
[23:33:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Performance optimization for sortable tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15402  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:33:32] <Splarka>	oh, it was just {{SITENAME}} removed from pagetitle
[23:33:37] <Splarka>	(which is silly, that's the default)
[23:34:02] <Splarka>	Simetrical: swimming with sharks I see, still
[23:34:13] <Marybelle>	{{SITENAME}} makes Dom/as cry.
[23:34:34] <Splarka>	so do users
[23:35:30] <Simetrical>	Splarka, not anymore.
[23:35:34] <Simetrical>	I've given up on him.
[23:35:40] <Simetrical>	He can find someone else to review his patches.
[23:35:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Uploading new images sets mime type to text/ plain and dimensions to 0x0 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7261  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[23:35:52] *Splarka 	gives Simmy a cigar
[23:35:57] <Simetrical>	Not only does he refuse to listen to my code review, he insults me as well.  I don't have to put up with that.
[23:36:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Don't offer meaningless protection levels (e.g., move= autoconfirmed with moves restricted to autoconfirmed) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16791  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:36:54] <Splarka>	ahh, but he knows better than us mere mortals, and in order to drive that point home he has to be crass
[23:37:10] <Splarka>	otherwise we aren't shocked out of our stubborn conservativism
[23:37:24] <Splarka>	...you ignorant closed-minded backwards dinosaur!
[23:37:26] <Splarka>	(etc)
[23:38:19] <Simetrical>	I wouldn't care what he thought if his attitude were "well, that's stupid, but I'll do it to get my code committed".  He can disagree all he likes, I don't mind, but he's wasting my time if he refuses to write code that I'll be willing to commit.
[23:46:28] <Aleksandrit>	how to add a banner (for example, as here http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1147/4mwvj8.jpg )? Where to add the banner code?
[23:51:26] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Text overflows image/table following #mw-revisiontag - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16811  +comment (10marcin.cieslak)
[23:53:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Performance optimization for sortable tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15402  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:53:30] <Splarka>	Aleksandrit: that'd be handled in skins/Monobook.php probably (I don't think there are any handy hooks for it). You'd also need css probably
[23:53:43] <Simetrical>	I see wikibugs doesn't register mere CC changes, so it missed my dramatic self-removal from all of SharkD's bugs' CC lists.
[23:54:40] <CIA-59>	03aaron * r45107 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Add comment
[23:55:02] <OverlordQ>	Simetrical: IIRC they changed that recently
[23:55:18] <OverlordQ>	pretty sure there was even a bug on it :)
[23:55:28] <Splarka>	indeedy
[23:56:03] <Splarka>	I wonder if it is just for self changes or if you could [BEANS BEANS THE MAGICAL FRUIT] with it
[23:56:12] <Splarka>	...damn censors
[23:56:37] <OverlordQ>	bewhaha
[23:56:38] <OverlordQ>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10842
[23:56:50] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15585
[23:57:28] <Splarka>	heh, simul