[00:00:56] 03(mod) Rename Special:Imagelist to Special: ListImages to keep the consistence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16107 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [00:04:45] 03(mod) Rename Special:Imagelist to Special: ListFiles to keep the consistence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16107 summary; +comment (10danny.b) [00:15:49] 03(mod) Add 'suppressredirect' group permission for sysops on de.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16856 (10paul.copperman) [00:17:08] 03tstarling * r45353 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/storage/dumpRev.php: Updated. [00:17:36] 03tstarling * r45354 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/storage/trackBlobs.php: Gracefully skip clusters that don't have the wiki in question [00:17:42] 03(mod) Rename Special:Imagelist to Special: ListFiles to keep the consistence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16107 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:19:46] 03tstarling * r45355 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/storage/orphanStats.php: Avoid division by zero [00:20:27] 03(mod) Rename Special:Imagelist to Special: ListFiles to keep the consistence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16107 (10innocentkiller) [00:22:55] ^demon: that default is for english only [00:25:11] <^demon> Danny_B: Translators will update their languages? [00:25:16] 03(NEW) Auto-login is creating accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16864 major; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (tstarling) [00:26:02] ^demon: that requires cooperation of many people. instead of simple change in svn. if i knew how the files should be renamed in svn,i've done that already [00:26:49] besides - we moved from image to file so we should rename all appropriate things to prevent confusions [00:27:16] <^demon> It's not a simple reordering. [00:27:33] <^demon> FileList and ListFiles can be reversed in English, not necessarily true in all other languages. [00:27:48] 03(mod) Auto-login is creating accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16864 +comment (10daniel) [00:31:04] <^demon> Danny_B: If you've got another solution in mind, it's the $specialPageAliases array in each of ./languages/messages/MessagesXX [00:31:15] 03tstarling * r45356 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/storage/recompressTracked.php: [00:31:15] * Fix some command-line propagation issues [00:31:15] * Fix weird failure to open /dev/stdout [00:31:15] * Wait for slaves after each child command [00:32:19] ^demon: you apparently dod not understand me. sur i know that in other langs it can't be reordered simply. but we are speaking about canonical name [00:32:54] which is the one according to key if i'm not wrong [00:40:38] 03(mod) Rename Special:Imagelist to Special: ListFiles to keep the consistence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16107 (10danny.b) [00:40:38] <^demon> The canonical name isn't the key, afaik? [00:40:51] <^demon> Otherwise, wouldn't the canonical name for ChangePassword still be Resetpass? [00:40:52] idk [00:41:45] 03(mod) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311 (10robin) [00:42:50] <^demon> wgCanonicalSpecialPageName is only a javascript variable...it's nowhere else in the software. [00:42:54] <^demon> Ew, you're right. [00:43:01] <^demon> var wgCanonicalSpecialPageName = "Resetpass"; [00:43:17] that variable pisses me off, it has inconsistent camelcasing [00:43:43] <^demon> That variable is stupidly named...it doesn't correspond to any variable name in the software :-\ [00:44:48] well, it does, but only to other JS variables [00:44:55] wgCanonicalNamespace [00:45:51] <^demon> Changing keys is icky :( [00:52:41] canonical name is also the name of special page which is shown in address bar if there are no translations [00:53:37] 03(ASSIGNED) Confirmation box after saving an edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16066 (10was.a.bee.ja.wiki) [01:19:27] HardDisk_WP: ping [01:20:30] Charitwo, pong [01:20:47] i might gonna disappear in ten minutes btw...fuck 24hr dsl disconnect ;) [01:20:50] query? [01:21:03] there everything is recorded and I won't miss anythig [01:21:47] HardDisk_WP: this channel is (usually) logged, too [01:22:01] for posterity I guess [01:22:51] Splarka, yeah but my IRC bouncer doesn't log channels, only queries [01:22:56] because of the sheer mass [01:23:08] I stopped chanlogging after 300MB piled up in two weeks. [01:23:21] That's no joke.. [01:24:14] were cvn channels included? [01:24:38] Yep, that was the problem ^^ [01:24:54] but i was on in 50 channels at that time^^ [01:24:54] so exclude those channels :p [01:37:46] HardDisk_WP: no, I mean, _this_ channel is _publically_ logged [01:37:51] not logged by you [01:38:34] he's asleep now, he'll never see that! [01:38:40] *Splarka PM'd him [01:38:42] ha [01:38:48] rar? [01:38:56] !rar | Charitwo [01:39:12] *Charitwo bops mwbot [01:39:19] !! [01:39:19] --mwbot-- A red exclamation point (!) in recent changes or on your watchlist is due to either the enabling of patrolled editing or the Flagged Revisions extension [01:39:32] !botspam | Charitwo [01:39:43] hardly [01:40:01] for people who don't actually need to see the bot say something, I just tell it to ignore me [01:40:08] I assume you know what !rar does [01:40:44] i never assume [01:40:58] http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20090103.txt [01:41:21] %0F [02:01:58] @search handbook [02:01:58] --mwbot-- Results: [] [02:02:40] o.O [02:04:51] @help [02:04:55] help [02:05:12] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [02:05:46] nicely dealt with Splarka :) [02:06:12] *Splarka rars cirwin [02:06:26] I think you scared the wrong people [02:06:49] free frenode nodes! [02:06:57] +e [02:10:15] @search mediawiki [02:10:15] --mwbot-- Results: [!, adminsettings, bizzwiki, blocking, centralauth, copyright, csshideheader, displaytitle, dpl, dumphtml, feeds, hosting, interwiki, ldap, multiplewiki, mysql, rewriteproblems, smtp, sourceforge, threads] [02:10:33] @search books [02:10:33] --mwbot-- Results: [interwiki] [02:10:39] @search book [02:10:39] --mwbot-- Results: [css, interwiki, javascript] [02:10:44] !botnoob | bbqbill [02:10:44] --mwbot-- bbqbill: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. [02:11:13] !rar | cirwin [02:11:13] --mwbot-- cirwin: rar [02:11:46] @search interwiki [02:11:46] --mwbot-- Results: [importsources, interwiki, langlinks, transclusion] [02:11:54] interwiki [02:12:08] ... [02:12:14] @seek interwiki [02:12:18] bbqbill: go to #mwbot if you insist on doing that [02:13:19] next time they're here, say "These aren't the droids you're looking for, these use exclamation commands" [02:13:40] question - does anybody know how to customize the default email notifications that are sent out when admins create an account "by e-mail", or when one is emailed a new password? [02:38:31] jian: MediaWiki:passwordremindertext for the new password [02:43:15] question [02:43:26] jian: MediaWiki:createaccount-text for the admin-created account [02:43:33] how do you change the colour of the text for the links on the top right [02:43:39] the ones that deal with preferences and logging out, that is [02:44:07] #p-personal a {color:#______} [02:45:07] oop, bit more specific... [02:45:38] but for example to turn them green: #p-personal li a {color:#00ff00} [02:45:49] and then to turn them pink after visiting: #p-personal li a:visited {color:#ff00ff} [02:45:57] put that in your MediaWiki:Monobook.css [02:46:19] what would I add to LocalSettings.php if I wanted to force my wiki to use https://mysite.com/wiki instead of just http ? I see $wg_Server but not sure how to use it [02:46:55] splarka: why is this setting so esoteric - i see just one mention of it in this google search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Passwordremindertext++site%3Amediawiki.org&btnG=Search [02:47:37] or rather, one for http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mediawiki%3APasswordremindertext++site%3Amediawiki.org&btnG=Search [02:49:17] 03(mod) {{#ifexist}} does not recognise URL encoded filenames - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14779 +comment (10rene.kijewski) [02:49:22] esoteric? they all are [02:49:46] they've been added willy-nilly for 8 years randomly by dozens of people [02:50:04] check the naming schemes in http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain for example [02:50:15] er, sorry: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [02:50:58] jian: you can find these via Special:Allmessages on the wiki, they aren't so much esoteric as self-explanatory, if you can find them [02:51:55] for example, to change the word 'Edit' that shows at the top of editable pages, you go to MediaWiki:Edit and change the content there... [02:52:34] thanks splarka [02:53:06] ah, thanks [02:54:08] i can see the other part now - "createaccount-text" [03:03:48] anyone have any hints for me using $wgServer so that my wiki uses https, my problem is that I can access the site using https but all the links created by MediaWiki use http [03:04:22] I tried to just add $wgServer = "https://mysite.com/wiki"; to the LocalSettings.php file but no luck [03:10:18] i think you should alter your .htaccess file in your web directory [03:10:22] just a guess though [03:10:26] I got it [03:10:38] I also had to use $wgProto [03:32:17] question - How does one run an SQL query for step two of the setup at (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount)? [03:36:34] my wiki's hosted on a remote server and i'm accessing it via a terminal, and i've connected to the mysql database from the command line inside that terminal [03:57:38] Hi, is there anyway to have a link for getting interwiki (local) links to a page? [03:59:15] Mohsen: Do you mean Special:WhatLinksHere ? [03:59:35] yes, but for interwiki links (local) [04:00:04] What is a local interwiki link? [04:00:28] we have a wiki family, we want to get all links from one of them to a page of the other [04:00:49] ok, so just links going to another wiki [04:00:59] there probably is, but I don't know if offhand [04:01:50] yes, I couldn't find any, I searched extensions, google and ... [04:02:31] by default, you can get links to a page from the wiki containing the page, not another wiki [04:03:40] oh, you couldn't get links incoming from another wiki [04:03:59] you might be able to get links outgoing from a wiki [04:04:05] I was confused there [04:04:54] basically, one wiki doesn't know what the links on another wiki are - it can only tell you about the links in itself [04:05:19] There is a link on every pages of a wiki "Links to this page" [04:05:49] *werdnum waves. [04:05:49] It displays all links to that page from the wiki containing the page [04:05:50] hi, all. [04:06:19] Mohsen: Yes. But not links from other wikis, or other websites, or URLs printed on paper etc etc [04:06:27] I want the links from another wiki, which is local (in the same server to that wiki) [04:06:28] because the wiki only knows about it's own links [04:06:53] yes, I know, I want to know if there is any solution [04:07:00] amsn [04:07:03] oops [04:07:19] as reparation, werdnum must help me answer this question :) [04:07:28] what is it? [04:07:41] How to get links to a page incoming from another wiki in a wiki farm [04:07:59] a particular other wiki? [04:08:03] you'd have to query the /other/ wiki(s), not the one where the page is [04:08:33] but that assumes that interwiki links are stored in the links table...? [04:08:37] other languages are feasable, as they are on the interlang table thing [04:08:45] but inline links are not, there is no interwiki link table [04:08:45] Correct, although an extension could be written that maintains a central interwiki link DB. [04:09:06] actually, that'd be kinda nice to have [04:09:15] [[en:foo]] would be possible to find, [[:en:foo]] or [[flibble:foo]] would require a full text search [04:09:20] bribe some developer or other. [04:09:34] Splarka: Yeah, but you could write an extension that creates such a table, preferably in a central DB [04:09:40] ouch [04:09:59] schema change goddamnit, that deficiency has been around long enough ^_^ [04:10:19] killall amsn [04:10:31] but are interwiki links stored /anywhere/? like, in the "local" link table? [04:10:35] no [04:10:36] oops again. [04:10:37] nowhere [04:10:40] fail [04:10:50] indeed fail, even external links are stored [04:10:51] your face is fail. [04:10:56] :o [04:11:22] Mohsen: you might set up referer sniffer/loggers ^_^ [04:11:56] what are them? [04:12:34] it watches requests to the server, and logs the URL that the client is coming from, if available [04:13:04] so, if they click a link on one wiki and get sent to another, you'll see the page they came from in the log [04:13:09] but... that's less than ideal [04:13:11] how it helps to handle "interwiki links to here"? [04:13:33] It shows you where people are coming from. [04:13:50] that is not what I want [04:13:59] I know [04:14:07] it is what you asked for though ^_^ [04:14:23] but no, what you want is not possible without a very specialized extension which you'd probably have to write yourself [04:14:29] no, I want all interwiki links to a page [04:14:46] yes, and referers would give them, along with other links that you could filter out [04:15:21] for example, all links from wikiquote to a wikipedia page [04:16:22] *sigh* [04:16:29] okay, look, two choices: [04:17:36] 1. write what werdna suggested, an extension that would register interwiki links into the 'wikiquote' (example) table, which you could then use in a second extension (or second half of the first extension) that would show you links to the page on that wiki, this would be a lot of work and require a schema change or a specialized DB just for the extension. [04:18:02] 2. use referers and do the same thing, probably less work overall (but not as accurate, the links would have to be clicked) [04:18:51] yea, I got it, I think the first choise is better [04:19:33] 3. Full-text search other wikis for /\Q[[\E:?\Qprefix:Pagename]]\E/ [04:20:27] I know there is going to be a change in db schema in mediawiki, would it help for this solution? [04:36:45] <^demon> Mohsen: What particular change in schema? Changes in the db schema happen every now and then...there's no particular big change in the works, afaik... [04:36:51] <^demon> Bah, he left. [04:56:37] 03(mod) site_stats.ss_good_articles and site_stats. ss_total_pages not synchronized with the real count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10834 (10JSchulz_4587) [04:59:20] 03(mod) Auto-login is creating accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16864 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [05:00:08] It's tomorrow! [05:07:39] <|X|> werdan7 [05:08:05] <^demon> ST47: EST much? [05:08:17] Verb? [05:08:54] <^demon> Hehe, just assuming you're in the EST time zone :) [05:09:00] <^demon> As it just clicked over for me 8 minutes ago too. [05:09:03] :) [05:09:06] 9 minutes now [05:09:08] Sadly, [05:09:13] since I'm still here [05:10:17] <^demon> And here we are, now 10 minutes past midnight. How's Jan. 3rd treating you so far ST47? [05:10:31] There's a lot of noise outside [05:10:37] Or upstairs [05:10:45] And it's a little chilly [05:10:53] Otherwise, pretty good, yourself? [05:11:33] <^demon> Can't complain. Sirens and neighborhood folks making noise outside, warm inside. [05:11:45] <^demon> Pretty much the same for anyone on the east coast here or north of me. [05:12:19] not many sirens here, sadly. would be nice if we had a few toasty fires [05:12:26] what's going on here? http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=22144&st=0&gopid=149807&#entry149807 [05:12:30] http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site%3Aen.wikipedia.org+inurl%3Acurid&btnG=Search [05:14:03] 03aaron * r45357 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (bug 16107) Imagelist -> ListFiles [05:14:24] 03(FIXED) Rename Special:Imagelist to Special: ListFiles to keep the consistence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16107 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:14:42] hello AaronSchulz [05:17:40] hey [05:18:30] 03(mod) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311 (10JSchulz_4587) [05:21:30] <^demon> Aaron: Left a comment on r45357 on code review. [05:22:03] I already get emails for that [05:23:28] <^demon> Oh yeah, I forgot code review does enotif now. [05:23:29] <^demon> hehe. [05:24:36] <^demon> Btw, could you spare 2 seconds and link my commit name to my username (or give me the coder group)? Never managed to find someone who could do it for me. [05:24:52] I can do it. [05:25:04] <^demon> demon <=> ^demon [05:25:24] coderised. [05:25:49] Linked. [05:27:08] <^demon> Thanks and thanks. [05:27:22] You owe me a cookie. [05:28:18] 03(NEW) Access to pages via "curid" parameter should include meta noindex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16865 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (random832) [05:29:57] *werdnum doesn't agree with that. [05:30:11] If you don't want pages indexed, bloody well use __NOINDEX__... [05:30:30] *werdnum subtracts 'bloody well'. [05:30:40] it's still a non-canonical URL [05:30:44] might be taken the wrong way. [05:30:47] *^demon gives werdnum an httponly cookie [05:30:53] do we let google index diffs? [05:31:01] Why must a non-canonical URL be noindex'd [05:31:16] <^demon> Because diffs are expensive. curid= isn't, it's just loading an old version. [05:31:20] it does spam the google results [05:31:29] ^demon: curid loads a current [05:31:31] ^demon: actually, it's loading the current version - curid is a page id, not a revision id [05:31:35] oldid/diff load an old [05:32:05] <^demon> For some stupid reason, I got it into my head that curid is interchangable with oldid :p [05:32:09] but - will you _look_ at robots.txt? there are entire categories (by subpage namespace) that need to be excluded [05:32:39] maybe if we had a mechanism to put meta noindex on them by wildcard; but we don't [05:32:58] (other question is, where's this "index.html" crap coming from? [05:35:08] Random832: I told you, look at link: and you'll find out. [05:36:38] except, none of those pages actually contain links to that url - not even in the cached version [05:36:44] so that isn't reliable [05:38:07] 03aaron * r45358 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: Minor code cleanup [05:39:26] 03aaron * r45359 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: (bug 15999) Rollback using markasbot (bot rollback) shouldn't get a diff [05:39:39] 03(FIXED) Rollback using markasbot (bot rollback) shouldn't get a diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15999 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:48:04] 03(mod) Rollback using markbotedits (bot rollback) shouldn't get a diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15999 summary; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [05:51:28] 03aaron * r45360 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: (bug 16865) Access to pages via "curid" parameter should include meta noindex [05:51:33] 03(FIXED) Access to pages via "curid" parameter should include meta noindex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16865 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:52:04] *Mike||gone throws money at Aaron for fastest bugfix [05:56:10] 'When attempting to create the username "~~~~", the error message returned is an almost entirely white screen with the single word "Error".' [05:56:15] LOL [05:57:47] 03(mod) Attempting to created username "~~~~" outputs bad error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16103 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [06:00:43] 03aaron * r45361 10/trunk/phase3/config/index.php: (bug 16084) Default memory limit should be increased [06:00:53] 03(FIXED) Default memory limit should be increased - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16084 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [06:01:07] AaronSchulz: Use the change, not the bug as your commit summary. [06:01:22] Your commit message doesn't say what you increased it to. [06:03:59] 03(mod) "Upload a new version of this file" should refer to a form with different appearence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15811 (10JSchulz_4587) [06:06:10] 03(mod) "Upload a new version of this file" should refer to a form with different appearence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15811 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [06:09:23] 03aaron * r45362 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: (bug 15498) Provide links to revisions listed at the Special:Contributions page [06:09:37] 03(FIXED) Provide links to revisions listed at the Special: Contributions page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15498 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [06:12:01] Mike||gone: hehe, I did the curid one just because it was part of the large search results I was looking through [06:24:53] 03(mod) Show the login page if a cookie expires and a watchlist is requested - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15320 summary (10JSchulz_4587) [06:25:41] 03aaron * r45363 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWatchlist.php: (bug 15320) Show login page if not logged in (for watchlist) [06:25:50] 03(FIXED) Show the login page if a cookie expires and a watchlist is requested - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15320 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [06:29:33] HardDisk_WP: ping [06:33:09] 03(mod) Create hook (NotifyOnPageChangeComplete) to collect information of page's changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14894 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [06:34:45] 03(mod) A hook to enable putting options to the preferences tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14806 (10JSchulz_4587) [07:06:36] Is it possible to have certain pages in a wiki accessible only by certain users? For example most pages woudl accessible by everyone but the business owners would have their own private area. [07:07:29] !secrets | BentFrank [07:07:29] --mwbot-- BentFrank: MediaWiki was not designed with read-restrictions in mind, and may not provide air-tight protection against unauthorized access. We will not be held responsible should private information, such as a password or bank details, be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job. [07:09:47] That's ok, no one else here would have the faintest idea how to look around. I guess one solution is just to have a second wiki. [07:09:51] you could set a specific namespace to be read blacklisted to all users [07:10:24] then create a new usergroup and whitlelist the namespace to them, and add the specific users to that usergroup [07:10:38] !wg WhitelistRead [07:10:38] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgWhitelistRead [07:10:42] Trunks9809: that method is not officially supported or advised [07:11:38] MW only supports all or nothing [07:11:51] good thing I'm not official then ;) [07:11:52] canI whitelist/blacklist an entire wiki? [07:12:06] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [07:12:09] its been suggested in here before too, which is the only reason I know about it [07:12:11] go there, read that [07:13:09] Ben: yes, that is the "official" way. you create a separate wiki (you can even use the same install, and a copy of LocalSettings, and separate databases)... see for example meta.wikimedia.org vs board.wikimedia.org [07:13:53] Trunks9809: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_extensions [07:19:25] Splarka, all those $wg settings woudl be in LocalSettings.php? [07:20:02] Also, I guess I could have an external link in the public wiki that goes to a login page for the private wiki. Woudl that work? [07:20:55] yes, yes [07:21:13] be sure to whitelistread Special:UserLogin (it doesn't go without saying, oddly enough) [07:21:54] if you share user databases, be sure to test that users on one can't accidentally access the other (like if you promote some sysops) [07:23:22] OK thanks. I'll always be the only sysop. [07:24:21] $wgTinGod = true; [07:24:28] *Splarka hides [07:25:33] lol! [07:26:07] It's not all it's cracked up to be. Everyone else is asleep right now. [07:26:26] hi all [07:26:42] hi dida [07:26:47] how can i change my language in mediawiki? [07:27:05] my site is using my language [07:27:55] try this... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgLanguageCode [07:27:58] but the [[Wikipedia:Article]] generates en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article [07:28:32] or this... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Language [07:29:33] [[Wikipedia:Article]] is an interwiki link, I am not sure how that relates to your content language question [07:31:12] Splarka, yea i know, i'm wondering why the generated one is in English [07:31:48] I'm refering to indonesian wikipedia help [07:31:57] for my users to collaborate [07:32:23] ahh, so you want your default link to the indonesian wikipedia [07:32:55] it should generate id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article not en.wikipedia.org [07:33:13] Splarka, i think so yea [07:34:04] !interwiki [07:34:04] --mwbot-- Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wikibooks, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see and . For easy configuration, use [07:34:37] the one you'll wanna change is, of course, 'wikipedia' [07:34:54] which is something like ('wikipedia', 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1', 1) in the default install [07:36:13] so what should i do? [07:36:43] you mean in the LocalSettings.php file? [07:37:16] nope, it is dirtier than that...you have to import it into the database or something [07:37:32] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialInterwiki <-- suggest this, lets you edit them easier ^_^ [07:37:45] where might i find the code which looks for doppelganger usernames? [07:38:54] hippietrail: you mean http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AntiSpoof ? [07:39:12] thanks Splarka ! [07:39:18] there is also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Username_Blacklist and whatever CentralAuth does to stop it [07:39:46] but AntiSpoof sounds like what you mean [07:39:47] i'm looking for tables or algorithms for "similar looking" characters [07:39:53] heh, theif [07:42:02] en wiktionary cross links words which look visually similar. i've worked on a few algorithms to find them automagically [07:42:36] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/AntiSpoof/equivset.txt?revision=37291 ? [07:44:08] that folder has that list in 4 different formats, pick your poison [07:49:36] yes browsing. doesnt seem to cover ligatures... [07:50:16] sofixit [07:50:24] generate some tables and patches [07:50:42] gotta figger out how the tables were generated. or where they came from... [07:54:27] heh, that might help [07:55:44] hippietrail: ask T�mSt�rl�ng about it, sometime when he's awake [07:56:33] yes we talked about it a couple years ago but now im interested again [08:28:43] hi TimStarling didnt you once have a modified regex engine version of the antispoof code? [08:29:00] I've adapted the antispoof code for AbuseFilter before. [08:30:02] werdnum: ive made code with some similarities a few times. seems to be a common pattern related to stripping accents or conversion to ascii [08:31:57] You just use an equivalence set. [08:32:46] well yes and no. this is what i've done before but you actually get false positives you dont want depending on the application [08:34:04] for instance 1 and l look similar and l and L are related but 1 and L arent really confusible [08:34:28] oic, you're looking for something else. [08:34:30] thats fine for antispoof but not for automagically populating wiktionary ((also)) templates [08:34:37] hmm [08:34:54] I think TimStarling pulled that data from w3c-provided downloadable lists. [08:35:17] im thinking of an all purpose tool actually so people dont have to reinvent it every time [08:35:27] :) [08:36:17] for instance i wouldnt mind per language info such as just chinese simplified/traditional or just japanese kyujitai/shinjitai/asahi [08:38:19] unicode does provide equiv sets for cjkv variants [08:39:08] also equivset.in states: The list is based on one by Neil Harris, which was derived by unknown methods. [08:40:22] lame. [09:30:53] 03(mod) Auto-login is creating accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16864 (10tstarling) [09:54:26] 03(mod) filter history of edits on bots (hidebots=1) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16228 (10stem) [10:16:59] <^demon> What's the URL for CommonSettings, etc for the WMF clusters? [10:17:27] ^demon: http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ [10:18:29] <^demon> Ah, that's right. [10:24:24] <^demon> If a particular setting isn't set in CommonSettings or InitialiseSettings, where else could it possibly be? [10:25:47] DefaultSettings, as default? [10:26:55] <^demon> $wgUseDatabaseMessages is true by default, but appears to be false for enwiktionary? [10:30:40] 03(mod) Auto-login is creating accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16864 +comment (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage) [10:31:51] ^demon: WFM: http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Noexactmatch&curid=34665&diff=5763169&oldid=5762944 -> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=asdkfhasdjfhaskjfskdf&go=Go [10:33:50] also http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Edittools&curid=34637&diff=5748081&oldid=5709821 -> http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=asdkfhasdjfhaskjfskdf&action=edit&redlink=1 choose "Greek (Ancient)" charset, shows there.. [10:34:47] <^demon> I swear to god I saw the "Cannot use this, $wgUseDatabaseMessages is disabled" not 5 minutes ago.... [10:38:43] hallucinations? [10:40:31] <^demon> No, I'm an idiot and I just realized what I did. [10:41:20] <^demon> I was looking at 'AllmessagesnotsupportedDB' [10:41:23] <^demon> *facepalm* [10:41:35] doof [10:41:49] ^demon: but it is accurate for that page [10:42:01] editing that message on that page is silly, since it won't show, heh [10:42:27] <^demon> Oh btw, I posted a followup comment to r45331 to you on code review. [10:42:31] <^demon> !r 45331 [10:42:31] --mwbot-- http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=45331 [10:42:41] <^demon> !rev 45331 [10:42:41] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45331 [10:42:46] <^demon> Ah, there we go. [10:43:36] Skizzers? [10:43:55] <^demon> Bah, it really isn't my morning :p [10:44:07] btw, per $wgCapitalLinks and namespaces, funny thing [10:44:26] wfMsg() always needs lowercase, but with $wgCapitalLinks false, MediaWiki: pages must always be uppercase [10:44:34] <^demon> Too much has relied on it always being set to true :) [10:44:36] (unless being called as css/js or other crap) [10:44:45] so if you "fix" that, be sure to fix wfMsg calls [10:45:28] "what?" you say, well... afaik: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:AllPages/MediaWiki:Z these will never be used, well, except the JS one [10:45:36] <^demon> NS_MEDIAWIKI is hardcoded to being uppercase-only in the patch. [10:45:51] <^demon> As is NS_SPECIAL [10:46:10] ahh, then you are ahead of the game... ish [10:46:30] <^demon> And NS_MEDIA gets set to whatever NS_FILE is. [10:47:07] <^demon> talk namespaces are automatically set to their content counterpart's value...they should never differ (and would probably break god-knows-what) [10:47:49] that'd be fun for watchlists [10:48:16] <^demon> And content/talk tabs, and any place both pages and their talk pages are listed. [10:48:20] <^demon> Pretty much everything. [10:48:22] <^demon> Hehe. [10:48:43] you should allow it with some difficulty, just for kicks [10:49:03] <^demon> I tried it when writing the patch. [10:49:14] hmmmm [10:49:22] so what happens on shared file repositories? [10:49:46] lets say commons had NS_FILE lowercase but en.wp didn't... or verse, visa [10:50:21] <^demon> I need to test that more. Thankfully, by setting 'initialCapital' in $wgForeignFileRepos, you can at least interact with a differing case wiki. [12:04:56] 03(WONTFIX) Self links for navigation from sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14796 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [12:09:23] Hello. How does mediawiki chooses keywords for meta information? [12:14:16] Hoi, check out user sieb_itsaboy ... It is Siebrand who became a father again :) Congratulations Siebrand :) [12:19:46] Congratulations Siebrand! [12:22:25] mornin [12:22:27] http://aton.packetdropped.org/p/index.php?id=5b31323537 [12:22:31] can someone tell me whats wrong with my template? [12:22:58] the \" [12:23:07] thats just done by the paste thing [12:23:31] do you have all the {{! templates? [12:23:36] http://rafb.net/p/iuc63C54.html [12:23:46] you aren't closing the
yes i have {{!}} and {{!!}} [12:24:16] yes i am closing the
[12:24:36] oh i forgot to include that line [12:25:19] the problem is: there is no green cell but the text style="color:green;" gets displayed [12:27:33] http://rafb.net/p/UO66hJ34.html [12:27:37] here is the complete thing [12:28:08] style="background-color: green" if you wish that background of cell is green [12:28:24] no i wish that the text is green [12:30:20] {{{Substanz}}} value is green? then use {{!}}style="color: green"{{!}} '''S'''{{!}}style="color: green"{{!}} {{{Substanz}}} [12:30:21] 03aaron * r45364 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (bug 14970) Add a number of revisions column to the Special:ImageList page [12:30:25] 03(FIXED) Add a number of revisions column to the Special:ImageList page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14970 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [12:31:27] oh, nevermind, I read again and understanded finally :) [12:32:06] Agony, no i want the '''S''' to be green, and {{{Substanz}}} to be black again. [12:32:08] (instead of "S" you have display value "style="color: green" S" [12:32:30] mediawiki displays: [12:32:32] style="color:green;"| S| [12:32:34] literally [12:32:38] 03(mod) Link to the logs entry for the affected page on Special: Watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15244 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [12:32:40] instead of making the table [12:34:13] do you have table without #if (using {{!}} and {{!!}})? [12:35:59] let me try [12:36:28] well outside the if i dont need {{!}}, do i? [12:37:01] 14(INVALID) Show watched status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14224 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [12:38:42] aton`: no but use them anyway [12:41:30] ok [12:42:33] 03(mod) A hook to enable putting options to the preferences tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14806 (10JSchulz_4587) [12:53:29] 03(FIXED) Allow the autoconfirmed timer to run from the first edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14737 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [12:53:30] 03aaron * r45365 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Autopromote.php Defines.php User.php): (bug 14737) Allow the autoconfirmed timer to run from the first edit [12:54:34] 03(WONTFIX) Namespace selection via checkboxes on Special: Watchlist instead of drop down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14658 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:01:57] 03(mod) Allow restricting patrolled edits feature to certain namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12640 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:02:44] Agony, it works great without the if [13:02:54] using {{!}} and {{!-}} [13:03:06] the {{!!}} doesnt seem to work [13:04:59] it works even when i dont make the cell green [13:06:04] http://rafb.net/p/DgT9kk53.html <- this works [13:06:55] http://rafb.net/p/jVoAVl99.html <- this doesnt [13:09:41] 03aaron * r45366 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Make titleprotected look a tad better when there is no reason...should prolly be two messages [13:12:11] aton`: What version of MW you have? I thin new preprocessor would fix this [13:12:39] one what could also help is creating {{=}} and using it instead of = [13:12:54] now afk [13:13:56] 1.11.2 [13:15:37] Agony, haha fixed: http://rafb.net/p/0ATlN171.html [13:19:00] aton`: old pp need sometimes tricks, if you don't wish to support font-tag, you have to use {{=}} template to output = [13:19:56] do you think the {{=}} would fix it? [13:24:45] Hi =) I know this isn't the place to ask about third party extensions, but I don't know where elsewhere to ask, so I give it a shot here at least. My problem is that when I enable the extension "Linked Images" (and others) the RSS for new pages and recent changes gets destroyed. I get the error message as follow: [13:24:46] -^ [13:25:38] that's not an error message [13:26:20] ok, when I comment out the extension the RSS starts working again [13:28:13] 03aaron * r45367 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: (bug 12458) Protected page titles should show only one protection notice [13:28:37] Agony, it doesnt work with {{=}} [13:28:45] 03(FIXED) Protected page titles should show only one protection notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12458 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:30:04] Duesentrieb, how can I solve or circumvent this message/problem with the non working RSS:s ? Any ideas? :) [13:30:50] Andesh_: that depends on what the actual error message is. [13:32:02] when I try to access the RSS page itself it says "XML Parsing Error: XML or text declaration not at start of entity [13:32:02] Line Number 1, Column 2:" [13:32:29] that indicates that there is a blank line or space before the start of the xml [13:32:41] this is usually caused by blank lines at the beginning or end of php files [13:32:55] check for thet in the extensions in question, and also in your LocalSettings.php [13:33:19] another candidate are BOM bytes, like Notepad is known to add [13:33:22] ok, I'll start with that, thank you Duesentrieb ! [13:42:45] 03rotem * r45368 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he, updating messages.inc, and rebuilding the English file. [13:50:13] does anyone know how to get fix that warning that ends in 'includes/WebResponse.php on line 10' [13:50:41] y'know...it appears as soon as you edit the LocalSettings.php file [13:52:49] 03(mod) Special:Relatedchanges/ Recentchanges misreports day limits in excess of maximum - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10154 +shell; +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:52:50] Rob_La|bach: any space before i don't see any space before the !bom [13:53:48] --mwbot-- The byte-order mark (BOM) is a special character added to files by some text editors, most notably, by Notepad. It is unnecessary and breaks PHP code. You should not use Notepad to edit PHP files. Alternatives for Windows include Notepad++, SciTE, EditPlus, and UltraEdit. [13:54:21] why not expression builder? [13:55:48] 03(WONTFIX) Add "hide minor edits" option to Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9605 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:56:58] 03(FIXED) Allow &from= and &until= parameters together in Special:Allpages . - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2448 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:58:38] 03(mod) Add a "reset to site defaults" link to Special:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2164 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:58:41] Rob_La|bach: just because mwbot hasn't been programmed with a certain program name dosn't mean it can't be used [13:59:06] it would just become too long if they add every application you can and can't use [13:59:47] k i'll get this notepad ++ [14:04:12] you can even use notpad -- afaik you cantell it to save as "UTF-8 without BOM". Btu why use Notepad? It sucks :) [14:05:00] i wub Notepad2 tbh, <3 syntax highlighting [14:05:13] http://rafb.net/p/fxL9Rh95.html <- i have this template, but when i supply multiple lines (starting with '*') as one argument, the first '*' is not converted to an enumeration sign, but stays a '*' [14:05:15] why? [14:05:24] although people will attack me, when i can access it, i prefer to use dreamweaver ^.^ [14:05:33] ok [14:05:34] p858snake: all of the mentioned editors support syntax highlighting :) [14:05:39] i opened up the localsettings file [14:05:47] and i see no special character like you guys are saying [14:05:55] only at the very top is and immediately after that are the comments hidden with # [14:06:16] Duesentrieb: just mentioning it, comparing it to *shudder*notepad*shudder* [14:06:18] aton`: because there's some witespace before it in the generated wikitext, most likely. [14:07:16] Duesentrieb, http://rafb.net/p/XZ2jZg66.html this is how i use the template [14:07:21] Duesentrieb: want to do bug 936? :) [14:07:37] AaronSchulz: no. (without looking) [14:07:55] aton`: and how is it defined? [14:08:11] busy? [14:08:41] Duesentrieb, http://rafb.net/p/fxL9Rh95.html [14:10:00] help? [14:10:11] aton`: das * muss am zeilenanfang stehen, sonst funktioniert es nicht. hier steht es hinter
. Der Zeilenumbruch bei der Verwendung des Templates wird nicht beachtet. [14:10:45] 03(mod) Special page for statistics about specific articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547 (10JSchulz_4587) [14:10:47] aton`: entweder {{{Kinetik}}} muss am zeilenanfang stehen, oder du musst mit
oder sowas vor dem zeilenumbruch vor dem * arbeiten [14:11:23] dann hab ich doch ne leerzeile drin oder? [14:11:26] 03(mod) Remind me of this article in X days - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:11:34] aton`: ja. [14:11:57] jedenfalls: parametere werden "gestrippt", und * funzt nur am zeileanfang. [14:12:12] und kann ich {{{Kinetik}}} irgendwie am zeilenanfang stehn lassen und trotzdem das ganze umrahmen? [14:13:11] klar. mach einfach 'nen umbruch nach dem > bzw vor dem {{{ [14:14:00] {{!}}

{{{Kinetik}}}
[14:14:09] nut
[14:14:12] err. [14:14:14] not
[14:14:17] a line break. [14:14:19] ah [14:14:29] 03(WONTFIX) Allow watchlist to be sorted by number of edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=808 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:14:33] AAH! [14:14:36] thanks man [14:14:44] wiki syntax is tricky [14:15:06] Duesentrieb: do you code for de chapter yet? [14:15:10] the nasty bits :) [14:15:48] AaronSchulz: yes. but mot mediawiki stuff yet. i mostly did internal stuff like fundraiser, and the scripting for the latest mass improt to commons [14:16:08] Duesentrieb, when I check the source of the xml file there is a whitespace in the beginning which destroys the xml syntax. But I don't know where to remove that whitespace. Imho it should be in the extension file. Because when I comment out the extension in Localsettings.php the rss starts working again. [14:16:34] Andesh, look for the BOM [14:16:37] Andesh: so look for blank lines at the beginning or end of all the extension files. [14:16:49] blank lines and bom marks, yes. [14:16:54] what is BOM? [14:16:59] [[BOM]] [14:17:01] !bom [14:17:01] --mwbot-- The byte-order mark (BOM) is a special character added to files by some text editors, most notably, by Notepad. It is unnecessary and breaks PHP code. You should not use Notepad to edit PHP files. Alternatives for Windows include Notepad++, SciTE, EditPlus, and UltraEdit. [14:17:33] 4is there anyone that could help me out? [14:17:46] OK, I will remove all the blank lines [14:18:01] Rob_La|bach: the bom is invisible. you will not see it. [14:18:14] but it breaks stuff if it's there. [14:18:34] so then what exactly do i have to do to remove it? [14:18:37] you'd need a hex editor to really see it. or use a sane text editor that removes it in any case. [14:18:43] I use mousepad for editing [14:18:53] as i'm looking at locasettings with notepad ++ [14:19:02] Rob_La|bach: please do not use colo(u)r and/or tect formatting (eg: bolding) in his channel as its distracting to other users [14:19:10] *text [14:19:29] Rob_La|bach: it's not going to show it. i'd hope it would remove it when you save the text. [14:19:37] but i have never used notepad++, so i don't know. [14:19:47] ok...so what do 'you' use [14:19:59] linux :) [14:20:05] 03(FIXED) List revisions created in a particular timeframe - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=936 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:20:07] kate usually [14:20:12] or vim sometimes [14:20:40] in the localsettings if you remove the line that introduces "includes/WebResponse.php" what happens? [14:25:59] i dunno what i did..but it works now [14:26:08] thanks guys [14:29:06] 03(mod) Auto-login is creating accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16864 (10mikelifeguard) [14:29:47] aha, the LinkedImage ext is obsolete and replaced with core functionality [14:30:26] 03(mod) Auto-login is creating accounts on unvisited wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16864 summary (10JSchulz_4587) [14:33:45] 03(mod) MediaWiki pages not displaying unless given language suffix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15224 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:41:58] Clearly it is an additional whitespace for BOM causing the rss to break. But I can't find it =( [14:45:48] for=or * [15:00:17] is there a (official or unofficial) forum for MW? [15:01:49] Andesh: there are several [15:12:32] 03(NEW) Special:Contributions and Special: Logs should allow searching contribs in both directions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16866 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (huji.huji) [15:13:44] so we didn't get 1.14 as a new years present either ;-) [15:14:34] piksi: maybe next year [15:16:13] darn :-( [15:16:50] Platonides: thansk [15:20:12] how can i tranform the name of an article (as template parameter) to an url encoded string like mediawiki uses in its url. so that space bekomes %20 or _ like in {{PAGENAMEE}}? [15:21:45] urlencode? [15:22:06] urlencode replaces the space with an + [15:22:54] for what purpose [15:22:56] i have to create links to another wiki which has the same url names like mw [15:24:40] 03(mod) {{#ifexist}} does not recognise URL encoded filenames - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14779 (10rene.kijewski) [15:24:41] its like an interwiki link without an entry on the interwikimap [15:25:59] Merlissimo: use {{PAGENAMEE}} [15:26:11] why not just use it [15:26:18] you want the name of the article [15:26:52] just pass pagenamee to the template [15:26:58] its not in the article, it's a tempalte parameter [15:27:37] template is for the project namespace [15:28:12] how about {{anchorencode: [15:31:07] Prodego|away thats working fine thx [15:31:21] 03huji * r45369 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Taking care of some of the translations not on betawiki yet + Fixing some writing style issues [15:31:34] as you can tell normally someone quite a bit more competent than I is around to help people :) [15:31:40] glad I could help [15:36:17] 03(mod) Uploads sometimes are incomplete: file is there, but image page is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15430 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [15:36:57] mmh mediawiki does not likes accepts the tranforming of ( to .28 [15:40:16] that is because it is an anchor encoding :) [15:40:23] lets see... [15:41:33] is there really no public function available doing the same stuff like {{PAGENAME}} to {{PAGENAMEE}} ? [15:41:37] 03btongminh * r45370 10/branches/new-upload/: Creating branch for new uploading architecture from r45369 [15:41:46] 03btongminh * r45371 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/: Creating branch for new uploading architecture from r45369 [15:42:33] Merlissimo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PF#Namespaces_and_URLs [15:43:06] localurl wont work, because the path is not including wiki [15:43:37] Duesentrieb, I solved it by first delete all the code in the php file and then copy and paste again from the source code on the extension page =) (Maybe I copied in windows the first time, I don't remember. Thanks for the help Duesentrieb ! =) [15:45:34] perhaps it is easier to make an interwikimap-add request ;-) [15:51:18] 03(mod) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311 (10robin) [16:09:56] 03(NEW) API: Autoconfirmation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16867 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (matthew.britton) [16:20:18] 03(NEW) parser function for url encoding mw sitenames like mw does - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16868 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (bugreporter) [16:20:18] 03ialex * r45372 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (bug 16376) Mention in deleteBatch.php and moveBatch.php maintenance scripts that STDIN can be used for page list [16:20:37] 03(FIXED) deleteBatch.php: mention stdin OK too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16376 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:24:51] 14(INVALID) collapsible tables don't work if top row is all body cells - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16348 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:29:26] 14(DUP) "New section" link in page footer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8465 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:29:28] 03(mod) Provide "add new section" link at the bottom of (discussion) pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5642 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:33:29] 03aaron * r45373 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ProtectionForm.php: (bug 16507) Not setting "other time" on creation unprotection error removed [16:33:35] 03(FIXED) Not setting "other time" on creation unprotection causes error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16507 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [16:40:39] 03aaron * r45374 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: (bug 16579) Check if session is set [16:40:45] 03(FIXED) Problem with User.php if no cookies present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16579 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [16:44:04] 03ialex * r45375 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Per r45228: also revert the RELEASE-NOTES entry [16:44:54] *ialex doesn't like people playing with the topic [16:46:07] 06(LATER) class='mw-imagepage-duplicates' contains old image-links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16750 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [16:49:13] 03(mod) Create a log and revert function for Special:Nuke - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15942 (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:49:28] 14(WFM) Inconvenience when I want to protect page moves but not editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15864 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [16:54:15] 03(mod) Add an id to the title of the page (firstHeading) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15427 summary (10JSchulz_4587) [16:59:24] 03aaron * r45376 10/trunk/phase3/skins/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (bug 15427) Make monobook firstheading have an ID (instead of class) like modern [16:59:26] 03(FIXED) Add an id to the title of the page (firstHeading) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15427 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:01:28] 03(WONTFIX) email-blocked users can register false email addresses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15750 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:02:08] 03(mod) Certain well-formed page names cannot be removed from a watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15300 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:08:19] hiya folks [17:08:59] I'm racking my brain trying to figure out a way to set up a template that escapes (nowiki's) the variables [17:09:37] to allow for characters that are also wiki syntax to be not parsed [17:10:51] just adding yourcontent ? Or I don't understand you question... [17:11:36] scriptfu: >CONTENT [17:11:39] Wuzur: http://pastie.org/351618 [17:12:01] Prodego: can I replace CONTENT with a template variable, like {{{1}}} ? [17:12:07] yes [17:12:11] woot! [17:12:11] yup [17:14:26] hrm, did not work [17:14:53] http://pastie.org/351618 [17:22:03] scriptfu- try http://pastie.org/351623 [17:23:20] tried that a bit ago [17:23:25] no dice, unfortunately. [17:23:41] My install must be old, since I can't seem to use a number of formatting options [17:23:59] Oh, do you not have the #tag magic word? [17:24:54] must not :( [17:25:15] Can you upgrade? [17:25:37] Unfortunately no [17:27:04] *anomie notes that #tag seems to have been added in r29482 [17:53:39] 14(INVALID) API: Autoconfirmation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16867 +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [17:57:48] 03demon * r45377 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/DefaultSettings.php skins/MonoBook.php): Followup to r45376 (changing class="firstHeading" to an id). We still want the class there too (as pointed out by Raymond) as it will break a lot of custom user styles. Also, bump $wgStyleVersion. [18:17:06] anyone able to review a bug patch? [18:17:37] 03(NEW) Hiding TOC should hide TOC in printout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16869 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (pbirken) [18:29:39] 03btongminh * r45378 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Merge patch from bug 14925 and apply changes to SpecialUpload.php up to r43627. [18:43:16] 14(INVALID) Undefined variable: r error on DynamicArticleList extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7626 +comment (10innocentkiller) [18:43:27] <^demon> Betacommand: What bug? [18:43:59] ^demon: bug 16854 [18:45:36] ^demon: its a feature that I want to see live on en wiki as soon as possible [18:47:01] <^demon> Ew Cite :( [18:47:02] *^demon looks [18:48:18] ^demon: I hate articles using but forgetting [18:48:49] Ive fixed about 5k of them already [18:49:08] finding them is the hard part [18:49:29] <^demon> I can imagine. Patch seems straightforward enough. [18:49:39] it looks okay, but my php isn't the best... [18:50:13] ^demon: I only made it through half the alphabet [18:50:41] yike, thats pretty rough :o [18:51:08] Trunks9809: yeah [18:53:03] Trunks9809: with this patch I can knock out the rest very quickly [18:53:10] but, ya, I think it should do what you want it too (assuming what you want it to do is display a message stating that theres no tag etc> [18:53:43] I dont know php but thats what I asked for [18:54:18] Trunks9809: the error message should just be a category once configured [18:54:39] that makes sense, yeah [18:55:43] Trunks9809: then we can automate the process [18:56:05] and avoid the issue [18:56:13] :) [18:59:03] I should probably learn more php... than I can actually make myself useful around here [18:59:39] 03demon * r45379 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/ (Cite.i18n.php Cite_body.php citeParserTests.txt): (bug 16854) Provide explicit error when is omitted. Patch by Brad Jorsch. [19:00:01] 03(FIXED) without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:00:48] <^demon> Betacommand: Done :) [19:01:09] thanks, just have to wait for it to go live [19:01:46] <^demon> Code review is Tuesday. Provided Brion likes/approves it, etc. [19:03:00] *Betacommand wonders what I need to bribe brion with [19:09:59] 03(mod) Collections uses the WP:GFDL shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16250 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:15:54] <^demon> There's a total of 5 independent request for Chemistry-related extensions. [19:16:01] <^demon> *requests [19:26:09] Is it possible to make a namespace that only a certain group can read [19:26:35] chuck: yes [19:26:43] Betacommand: without an extension? [19:26:50] no [19:27:22] which extension is it [19:27:39] Im not sure [19:28:09] I thought it wasn't officially supported? [19:28:36] Trunks9809: im not sure [19:29:10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Page_specific_user_rights_extensions [19:29:33] try that, but its not a reccomended way of doing things [19:30:04] really, mw was designed to be open to all, so access restrictions arn't reallt built in [19:30:21] also, you'll want to read the security issues page too [19:31:12] chuck: yes, as long as you don't care if it is secure [19:31:18] .-. [19:31:41] Prodego: How would someone get into it and read the forbidden namespace [19:32:23] chuck: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_issues_with_authorization_extensions [19:32:25] all those ways [19:32:48] beat me to is, Prodego [19:32:54] chuck: either no read access or full read access, mediawiki is not a CMS [19:33:09] all yours Trunks9809, time for me to go eat [19:33:38] ugh, don't mention food, I think I might explode if I eat anymore... [19:33:46] mmm, lard [19:35:02] Prodego: do you know which extension would follow those rules the best? [19:35:52] [[Extension:Lockdown]] looks like it may be the best for my situation [19:37:28] hello [19:39:36] i cannot load the page http://rafb.net/p/7QwoV240.html [19:39:47] usually [19:42:07] i am not sure but maybe it's mediawiki related problem [19:42:48] hmm, seems to be working fine for me [19:44:17] i guess many can use it, but not good for me [19:44:42] i tried with Firefox and Explorer & [19:46:39] 03rotem * r45380 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite.i18n.php: Localization update for he. [19:47:44] <^demon> WFM as well. [19:48:00] <^demon> misibacsi: What goes wrong? Blank page? No recentchanges listed? [19:48:19] totally blank page [19:48:37] no loading blocks going [19:48:47] <^demon> :-\ [19:49:52] now i tried it with IE 7, once worked, but now it gives 500 Internal Server Error [19:50:22] i selected max number of changes [19:50:54] maybe that cause the problem? too many lines? [19:51:36] <^demon> Possibly. Your connection might be timing out. [19:51:42] <^demon> Try a low limit like 20. [19:52:02] i try and i come back [19:52:36] I think it might be your connections - I just tried 3000 changes and it worked fine... took a bit longer, though [19:55:46] hi, can you add Polish translation into [[MediaWiki:Mediawiki/pl]] => "Pobierz MediaWiki" [19:56:04] can the HotCat tool be made to add more than one category at a time on the english WIkinews? [19:56:13] it was 8000 changes in my Settings, now i lower it to 2000 and it works [19:56:13] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mediawiki/pl [19:56:51] but i need at least 4000 changes to watch [19:57:06] i don't know what the maximum is [20:13:36] What license settings does Wikimedia use for internal wiki [20:13:51] 04(REOPENED) API: Autoconfirmation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16867 +comment (10matthew.britton) [20:16:06] ���� ������, ������� ����? [20:20:34] people! [20:20:48] Do you speak russian?! [20:20:55] help me please! [20:21:16] Fezilk: #wikipedia-ru? [20:22:52] 03raymond * r45381 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (215 files): Follow up r45357: Rename messages/rebuild all language files [20:28:30] CIA-57, thx [20:30:03] on the channel no no. may have a Russian in this channel? [20:37:55] 03(mod) Edits reversed in page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14816 (10JSchulz_4587) [20:57:59] bye all [21:12:26] 04(REOPENED) Weaken DISPLAYTITLE restictions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12998 (10rememberthedot) [21:13:15] 03aaron * r45382 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [21:13:15] * Track # of reviewed edits for users [21:13:15] * Some minor cleanup [21:15:10] 03aaron * r45383 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateAutoPromote.inc: Update script too [21:18:57] 03(mod) parser function for url encoding mw sitenames like mw does - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16868 (10herd) [21:21:28] 03(mod) Generic 403 server error page is confusing for URL with "&" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13125 +comment (10rememberthedot) [21:22:40] *Splarka stabs ^demon for thinking he could get away with 45376 [21:22:53] yes, I know you fixed it, but you shouldn't have a "oh, I can just change a class to an ID" mentality [21:35:00] 03aaron * r45384 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php: Remove old comment [21:39:07] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebStore [21:39:26] require( "$IP/extensions/WebStore/WebStore.php" ); or require once( "$IP/extensions/WebStore/WebStore.php" ); [21:39:27] ? [21:39:51] other extensions use require once [21:42:53] 03(mod) API: Autoconfirmation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16867 +comment (10herd) [21:44:26] yannf: either [21:44:43] bah, people shouldn't wheel-edit bugzilla without being here [21:44:52] *Splarka casts 'Summon Gurch' [21:45:14] MinuteElectron, does it matter? what's the difference? [21:45:36] yannf: The program will die if it is included more than once with _once. [21:56:14] 03(mod) API: Autoconfirmation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16867 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [22:01:28] 14(INVALID) API: Autoconfirmation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16867 +comment (10matthew.britton) [22:05:00] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MrsSue [22:06:17] thanks, ialex [22:06:34] np :) [22:06:50] DerHexer: btw, you can do it ;) [22:07:07] but I'm not allowed to … [22:07:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Administrators last paragraph [22:09:01] o_O [22:09:06] I didn't know that! :O [22:19:16] hi [22:19:42] eh, is it possible to use template parameters in tags? [22:19:46] if yes, then I just hit a bug: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:HardDisk/Test?action=purge [22:19:59] the imagemap doesn't accept the template code, by the looks of it [22:20:51] it's normal [22:21:01] yet the code inside the imagemap tag evaluates perfectly [22:21:34] use {{#tag:imagemap|....}} [22:24:01] ialex, done, now different error msg [22:25:40] HardDisk_WP: better? :) [22:26:45] thx! [22:40:16] Hello everybody, I've got a question regarding MediaWiki, anybody adviable? [22:40:58] Do I need paypal money before I get support, its just a little question? [22:41:38] !ask | Muzz [22:41:38] --mwbot-- Muzz: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [22:41:50] support is free [22:42:04] Oh, sorry, didn't notice that at all [22:42:35] quick question about flagged revs, what does set $wgFlaggedRevsOverride = false; [22:43:33] HardDisk_WP: sheesh, I just edited http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:ImageMap&curid=10631&diff=230891&oldid=230624 two days ago [22:43:56] ^^ [22:43:58] gn8 [22:44:07] Betacommand: seems that when it's false, the most recent revision is always shown with a link to the stable one [22:44:16] when it's true, the stable one is shown by default [22:44:18] ahh [22:44:20] Right, so I got a wiki and there is a english article (eg; for example: This name) and I insert [[Translation:Hulpsite (nl)]] to it for the dutch page, will the Languages box appear in the sidebar? [22:44:48] Skizzerz: if their is no sighted the current version is dispalyed? [22:44:54] Muzz: no, you need to use interlanguage links for that [22:45:02] Betacommand: not sure, I just got that info from the extension page :) [22:45:32] Muzz: like, if you put [[en:This name]] on the page somewhere, the link to the English version will show up in the sidebar [22:45:45] of course, this assumes you are using one wiki per language [22:45:49] Skizzerz: Im looking at en wikis proposal and trying to figure out how they configure it [22:46:08] if you are using multiple languages for one wiki, you'd be better off using something like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Languages [22:46:29] Skizzerz: actually, you can loop back interlang links, as some projects do for budding languages [22:46:38] ah, that's nice to know [22:46:42] and then they can easily reassign them if a language forks off [22:46:56] Okay, so : Make a Template:Languages and then add in articles just [[en:This name]] or [[nl:this name [22:47:15] Muzz: be aware that interlang links, that is links to 'in other languages' have to be registered interwiki links that match the ISO language codes in languages/Names.php [22:47:28] you don't need Template:Languages if you're doing [[en:This name]] and [[nl:This name]] [22:47:41] see: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interwiki#Interwiki_links_to_other_languages [22:48:10] Thanks [23:01:52] got disconnected [23:03:06] I'm following Scenario 3: Quick set-up on Manual:Wiki_family (MediaWiki) and both two possibilities doens't match my scenario. I've got one wiki, one directory and one database [23:03:09] what was the URL to only load the diff (with change) and not the rest of the page? [23:06:09] 03siebrand * r45385 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/: Ignore LocalApp.php [23:10:46] White_Cat: add &diffonly=1 [23:11:28] hi - how does one configure Extension:ConfirmAccounts to disable "personal information" and "otherinformation" fields in Special:RequestAccount? I've tried $wgMakeUserPageFromBio=false but this had no effect [23:16:54] 03siebrand * r45386 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/: Ignore settings.php [23:17:36] 03(mod) Auto-login is creating accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16864 summary; +comment (10tstarling) [23:25:11] 03(NEW) Strange behavior of user interface languages on Commons' s upload form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16870 normal; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (lupo.bugzilla) [23:44:00] does anybody know how to completely remove the "biography" fields from Extension:ConfirmAccount? [23:50:59] hello, I'm new to mediawiki, can you please tell, what is exaclty the "public" folder image uploader is asking for writing privileges for? I've tried to chmod \images, same error. Another question is almost the same about math formulas parser: says can't write to temp math folder. So, what that temp folder should be? [23:54:04] Does Duenstrieb still frequent IRC? [23:55:45] Is there any way to make a template look up a table? IE I pass the template a value and it returns according to a table a result? {{Lookup|{{{Value}}} }} In which Tempplate:Lookup compares {{{1}}} to a set of values to use that which fits the parameters or is this way too complex? [23:56:42] {{#switch}} [23:56:48] !parserfunctions [23:56:48] --mwbot-- "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [23:56:57] does anyone in here have nginx confis for rewriting urls for mediawiki? I have already tried the one on the nginx english wiki [23:57:16] Nice... Switch can do greater-than and less than options? [23:57:30] no, use #ifexpr for that, same extension [23:57:43] <|X|> We need a new name for ParserFunctions >_< [23:57:47] yah [23:58:24] Oberoten: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions has #switch and #ifexpr [23:58:37] 'fanks. :) I'll take a look. :) [23:59:37] *Splarka fixes !parserfunctions a bit