:P [21:27:35] <Duesentrieb> timofonic: gotta go now. good luck :) [21:27:42] <timofonic> Duesentrieb: The effort will go to a FOSS project, paying for the code will be a personal contribution and save work on the converting :P [21:27:48] <timofonic> Duesentrieb: So that's a "NO". OK :) [21:28:14] <Duesentrieb> too much on the stack already, sorry [21:28:21] <timofonic> Duesentrieb: no problem [21:28:31] <Duesentrieb> cu [21:54:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ForeignAPIRepo has no getZoneUrl(), making DumpHTML fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16832 +comment (10innocentkiller) [21:55:39] <CIA-57> 03siebrand * r45406 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUserrights/GlobalUserrights.i18n.php: Fix incorrect message name [22:01:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Uploads sometimes are incomplete: file is there, but image page is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15430 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [22:15:01] <eghjaytee> does anyone have a VCL file for varnish 2.0 and mediawiki? [22:17:14] <eghjaytee> pwd [22:20:20] <aib> any way to iterate of the categories a page is in using some parser function? [22:20:57] <aib> i don't see any way to dynamically list the cats a page is in:( [22:22:12] <Splarka> !dpl [22:22:12] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList> and <http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Dynamic_Page_List>. [22:22:43] <aib> soon i will have every extension in the matrix installed :) [22:23:36] <Splarka> the matrix has you, knock knock [22:26:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) API: Deleted contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16858 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [22:29:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) API: Add parameter clcategory to prop=categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16844 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [22:31:17] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) JSON encoding errors for characters outside the BMP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16798 +need-review; +comment (10roan.kattouw) [23:00:47] <aib> dpl is insanely complicated [23:01:08] <Splarka> no kiddin' [23:01:51] <Splarka> say MediaWiki is a beach, and you have a bucket, and need a spade... dpl is a bulldozer [23:02:13] <Splarka> DPL is like an analogy [23:04:44] <aib> lol [23:45:51] <buzz_> evening/morning [23:46:32] <aib> afternoon, actually [23:48:16] <wikibugs> 03(mod) API list=recentchanges results are completely wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16877 (10matthew.britton) [23:51:00] <AaronShaf> To the author of FlaggedRevs, there is desperately needed the ability to auto-approve template changes [23:51:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) New page log can be fooled into not showing a new page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16705 (10matthew.britton) [23:52:38] <Mike_lifeguard> AaronShaf: You might want to add a request to bugzilla where the developer can find it [23:52:47] <Mike_lifeguard> He's not here right now, and I doubt anyone will remember to tell him. [23:52:47] <buzz_> aib, damn. i was close though! [23:53:40] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Sister projects search results box placement on IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16886 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (axelboldt) [23:54:20] <aib> thank the odds gods i came up with a non-dpl solution [23:54:44] <aib> that extension is screaming "make something really complicated with me so i can break and no one will maintain me!" [23:59:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) API: Add parameter clcategory to prop=categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show

[00:00:03] I've installed mediawiki on fedora 10, and chmodding brings absolutely nothing: still cannot access images uploading folder, so as math cannot be rendered without write privileges to *somewhere*. However, I've succeeded to start the server, but only after manualy creating & editing LocalSettings.php - it cannot be done automaticaly because of writing access errors too. What may be the reason, can you advice something, please! [00:04:56] 03(mod) allow 'em' and 'ex' image sizes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7048 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:07:08] ...or is it the right place for asking about mediawiki installation? [00:07:23] marcus__, it is, but it seems nobody's here who has an answer to your question handy. [00:07:59] Have you tried: chmod -R a+rw images/ [00:08:39] yes, I've tried chmod 777 images and chmod a+w images [00:08:40] a chown and chmod u+rw would proberbly be safer :) [00:08:51] marcus__, you did it -R? [00:09:20] ST47, yeah, but then I'd have to know the webserver user. [00:09:22] yes, I've tried recursion too [00:09:33] marcus__, what's the exact error you're getting? [00:09:34] ... I take it there is no AND function in the #ifexpr ? [00:10:09] Oberoten, I'm pretty sure there is. [00:11:04] {{#ifexpr: {{{1}}} >= 4 and {{{1}}} <8 | 6 }} [00:11:05] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions <-- This page-naming scheme is evil. [00:11:20] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23expr: [00:11:50] Simetrical, the error on web page is in russian :) main idea is that it hasn't enough privileges to write into public folder [00:12:07] marcus__, give me the text of the error anyway. [00:12:19] I can find the English equivalent from that. [00:13:08] Have you looked at help pages? [00:13:18] Googled the problem and so on? [00:13:38] Add ?uselang=en or &uselang=en to the end of the URL to get an English error message that will give more Google results. [00:13:56] here it is: Веб-сервер не имеет прав записи в папку (public), в которой предполагается хранить загружаемые файлы. [00:14:42] I've googled on this error, however chmod was the only solution mentioned on forums [00:14:42] "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver." [00:14:53] yes [00:15:10] "public" means something magical here, but I can't recall how to figure out what. [00:15:29] What's your path setup? Could you pastebin ls -l of the relevant directories? [00:15:42] :) so public is alias to /images? [00:16:07] I don't know. [00:16:10] Checking the code. [00:16:22] It looks like it's the actual relative path. [00:16:26] Which seems odd. [00:17:38] No, wait. [00:17:39] Hmm. [00:17:46] Ah, I see. [00:17:50] No, it cleans it. [00:17:54] To avoid path disclosure, I guess. [00:17:59] It could be clearer. [00:18:00] install path is usr/share/mediawiki, www root path is var/www/wiki [00:18:06] ? [00:18:35] Wait, you have MediaWiki installed outside the web root? That's not recommended. [00:18:42] some variable definition maybe? [00:18:47] I don't know what kind of weird errors that will produce. [00:18:59] is was installed by default to there [00:19:12] are you using a distro package by any chance? [00:19:17] By your distribution's package manager, I guess. [00:19:19] but ln -ed to web root [00:19:24] We don't like them, they tend to mess stuff up. [00:19:32] yeah, yum install mediawiki [00:19:33] TimStarling would be able to help. [00:20:42] it as easy to install, as erasing back :) I mean, I can reinstall to different location - which one preferable? [00:24:30] marcus__, download from mediawiki.org and follow the installation instructions there. [00:25:25] btw, yum distro has no /math folder at all, finaly i had to get tar pachage from svn, and copy it from there [00:26:05] hm, I agree, sounds like the best way is to start from the very beginning [00:26:22] thank you very much for your response [00:27:50] {{#ifexpr: {{{Thickness}}} >= 1 and {{{Thickness}}} < 2 | 4 }} doesn't work.. but if I input instead a number it evaluatesproperly. The first example gives an error of : Expression error: Unrecognised punctuation character "{" [00:28:11] it's a bit more complicated than it needs to be, unfortunately [00:28:42] Oberoten: have a fallback for when the parameter is undefined [00:28:46] {{{Thickness|0}}} [00:28:53] Okay... Will try that. [00:29:11] otherwise #ifexpr sees literally { [00:29:15] in includes/filerepo/FileRepo.php, there is this: [00:29:19] var $pathDisclosureProtection = 'paranoid'; [00:29:20] Ahhh... THAT works. :) [00:29:26] Oberoten: you can also use #iferror to detect bad user input [00:29:38] if you change it to 'none', then it'll give you the path [00:29:40] Thank you. THAT is why I thought there was no way to get it to work the way I needed. [00:29:50] there's another way via LocalSettings.php but it's more complicated [00:30:42] mediawiki.org links to fedora core inst guide, where there's yum install mediawiki again :) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Fedora_Core [00:31:00] hmmm [00:31:18] there's another one in FSRepo.php that takes precedence [00:31:30] and mediawiki-math does not exist [00:33:00] $wgUploadDirectory = "$IP/images"; - looks like chmod -R /images would be enough really... but why not [00:33:15] 01 chmod -R 777 /images [00:34:09] 01ok, first I'll try exactly what is listed there [00:34:32] the LocalSettings.php way is like this: http://p.defau.lt/?PCS5HK38BVNcDcPr1gDoGw [00:34:42] 03(NEW) Refresh the wanted pages report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (scream) [00:35:04] and then add 'pathDisclosureProtection' => 'none', [00:36:49] 01ok, thanks, Tim [00:38:35] TimStarling, could you comment on bug 6200? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6200 [00:38:51] It's fairly annoying/stupid and was reported over two and a half years ago. [00:40:07] 03(mod) allow 'em' and 'ex' image sizes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7048 (10erwin) [00:44:20] Simetrical: the patch would definitely be an improvement [00:44:48]

only allows block elements, the present code only allows inline elements [00:46:03] in theory
Some text
should be converted to
Some text
[00:46:07] maybe tidy will do that [00:46:15] Wouldn't
make more sense here in practice? [00:46:55] well,
adds extra vertical space and that might not be intended by the author [00:47:08] HTML5 allows any flow content in a
. Go it. [00:47:19]
has a margin, so does
. They should collapse, shouldn't they? [00:47:47] (NEW) Refresh the wanted pages report < :o thats disabled on the normal english wiki =( [00:47:55] there's an easy way to find out [00:48:42] On localhost blockquote has a larger margin than p, so
has the same margin as just
. [00:48:54] 03(NEW) A newline after piper implicates a paragraph - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16872 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (rene.kijewski) [00:49:24] 03(mod) A newline after piper implicates a paragraph - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16872 15enhancement->normal (10rene.kijewski) [00:49:26] Godspeed peopple. [00:49:29] Thanks for the help. [00:49:51] fair enough [00:50:35] you could just apply the patch and let it be broken until HTML 5 becomes the standard [00:51:08] Or have us switch to HTML5, then apply the patch. :) [01:08:42] mmm, I remember saying that
broke with tidy but worked without, back in 1.7~ era [01:09:00] (since tidy vehemently strips whitespace and newlines where it doesn't think they should be) [01:09:23] is that still a concern (or still considered buggy)? [01:11:22] About that Interwiki. In Mediawiki there are two possibilities but in Scenario 3, but I have one directory, one server (root folder), and one database. Is it still possible to use InterWiki? [01:12:19] yes, you can loop interwiki back to the same wiki (www.wikia.com used to do this, may still do) [01:13:20] you can have say, 'iw_prefix' fr, 'iw_url' http://yourwiki/w/index.php/$1 'iw_local' 1... [01:14:15] Splarka: My wiki is directly in my web root so it will be http://yourwiki/index.php/$1 [01:14:19] and then on a page.. [[fr:What�v�r]] for example, to link to the french version of [[Whatever]], same as [[What�v�r]] but put in 'in other languages' [01:14:29] Muzz: no idea, just an example [01:14:39] Okay get it [01:14:48] $1 being the title, and the rest being the URL to reach it [01:15:01] note that this is a silly thing to do, but it does scale nicely later [01:15:19] in that, you can move pages to a language twin, like fr.yourwiki.. and change the interwiki link, and move the pages [01:15:27] then the existing 'in other language' links will link to the new place [01:15:39] (after purge) [01:15:50] Yes, but I wanted to keep it in one domain, one www root and one database. [01:15:57] Is except setting up rows in the interwiki table in the database, reqeuring something else in other to get InterWiki running? [01:16:33] 03(mod) lang and hreflang attributes for interwiki links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4901 +bugday (10brion) [01:18:49] Thanks [01:18:55] *Splarka can't parse that last question [01:19:07] 03(mod) Sister project (interwiki) links should be stored in their own table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14473 +bugday; summary (10brion) [01:19:08] *Splarka afks [01:19:30] *Splarka pokles brion's ghost [01:24:43] 03(NEW) Update wikimania.wikimedia.org redirect for 2009 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16873 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (brion) [01:26:39] Damn, stupid isp [01:28:32] Last question regaring InterWiki (Because I feel like I am been beggin'); The default english is now (http://your-wiki.org/index.php/$1) The iw_url in my situation is for adding like the french version: http://your-wiki.org/index.php/fr/$1 (Is that true and will this theory work)? [01:36:27] it should, but you'd then force all french pages into subpages of /fr/, is that what you want? [01:37:21] 03(NEW) Disable anon editing on Wikimania 2008 wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16874 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (cbrown1023) [01:39:33] No, thats not what I want [01:40:09] MediaWiki itselfs uses mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/fr [01:40:19] That kind of situation [01:41:53] Oh, I see now. /fr on MediaWiki is a subpage of Manual:Interface. Right? [01:42:50] Hmm, this looks useful for web development. http://code.google.com/p/doctype/wiki/ [02:12:39] is it possible to set special page name aliases in initialisesettings? [02:22:59] 04(REOPENED) Show watched status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14224 +comment (10danny.b) [02:29:13] 03vyznev * r45387 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Sanitizer.php): [02:29:13] Add special case handling of the XHTML character entity "'" to normalizeEntity() and decodeEntity(). This should resolve the remainder of bug 14365. [02:29:13] It might seem cleaner to just add the appropriate entry to $wgHtmlEntityAliases, but this would break decodeEntity() as currently written. Explicitly note this in the comments. [02:29:25] 03(NEW) Importing (transwiki) only the top revision should succeed reliably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16875 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (mikelifeguard) [02:29:42] 03(mod) Entries in the image table with invalid titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14365 (10nospam) [02:31:44] 03(FIXED) Allow exporting pages in printable document format (PDF) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [02:34:07] 03(mod) Failed Special:Import leaves imported pages behind, but does not say so. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5701 (10mikelifeguard) [02:36:16] 03vyznev * r45388 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/cleanupImages.php: Don't needlessly shy from reuniting lost files with their description pages. [02:37:44] 14(WFM) [Special:Import] - unclear limit of revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7032 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [02:39:16] 03(FIXED) ODF export function desired - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7627 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [02:44:59] 03(NEW) cleanupImages. php should enforce same file naming rules as UploadBase - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16876 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (nospam) [02:47:00] 03(mod) Addition of the "Flood Flag" right to Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16833 +shell; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [02:53:26] Why doesn't MediaWiki say "or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation." in GFDL licenses? [02:57:58] is it possible to make category listings show something other than page names [03:18:49] 03(mod) Importing (transwiki) only the top revision should succeed reliably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16875 (10ariel) [03:22:39] 03(mod) Update wikimania.wikimedia.org redirect for 2009 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16873 +comment (10brion) [03:26:52] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Revision-info should accept wikimarkup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16026 (10brion) [03:32:27] 03(mod) {{#ifexist}} does not recognise URL encoded filenames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14779 (10brion) [03:33:19] 03(mod) Create hook (NotifyOnPageChangeComplete) to collect information of page's changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14894 (10brion) [03:38:32] 03(mod) A newline after pipe in a title implicates a paragraph - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16872 summary (10rene.kijewski) [03:38:55] 03(mod) A newline after pipe in a table implicates a paragraph - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16872 summary (10rene.kijewski) [03:48:42] 03(mod) Uploads sometimes are incomplete: file is there, but image page is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15430 (10brion) [04:01:05] How do I create a log that will be sent to the RC feed? Does the log just have to be viewable by all? [04:06:19] Hi Everyone :) - Just wondering if anyone here is familiar with the moving of images $wgAllowImageMoving = true; [04:10:30] or I guess deletion of images in general [04:15:57] Lapper, read your query. [04:20:43] And answer [04:24:18] Hi, i'm trying to write a conditional statement that writes out [[Image:{{{Image}}}|250px]] if {{{image}}} exists, and {{{video}}} otherwise. I've tried {{#if:{{{Image}}}|[[Image:{{{Image}}}|250px]]|{{{Video}}}}}, but this does not work. Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong? [04:25:07] the {{{image}}} after the #if should be piped, ie {{#if: {{{Image|}}} [04:25:40] also, you do have the ParserFunctions installed, yeah? [04:26:52] probably not [04:26:58] unless it's installed by default [04:27:06] is it? [04:27:10] nope, you need to install them seperately [04:27:14] !parserfunctions [04:27:14] --mwbot-- "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [04:27:14] ok [04:30:42] is there a maximum limit on the length of template params? [04:31:05] i've got an {{Paper|abstract=}} that causes the page to not load [04:32:55] thanks trunks! [04:33:08] no probs [04:33:10] also, is there any reason the image should be piped? [04:33:14] it seems to work without [04:33:49] hmm, not that I'm aware of, but it never seems to work when I don't do it [04:34:05] {{{param|default}}} [04:34:13] So, it just provides a default (ie null) [04:36:52] nobody knows of a maximum template parameter length in mediawiki? [04:38:34] can't say off the top of my head, no... its possible the maximum is built into php though [04:40:17] nope, apparently theres no variable max built into php [04:40:45] are you getting a specific error message, aib? [04:40:51] oh - nvm it only works with the pipe [04:40:58] no mediawiki just fails to render the page until i remove the parameter [04:41:01] outputs nothing [04:42:16] what happens if you take out the abstract= and replace it with {{{1}}} or something? [04:42:32] this is a template declaration in an article [04:42:37] if i remove the parameter the page renders [04:43:10] hmm, why a 3555 character string? [04:43:30] happened to be the length of this abstract. some abstacts are long. [04:43:54] have you tried any other lengths? [04:44:40] I suppose its possible that you've used all the server resources trying to process the massive string... [04:44:48] yes i've used 15,000 lengths [04:44:58] some of them cause mediawiki to barf because they are long [04:45:09] it has a built-in limit somewhere [04:45:36] yeah, sounds like it [04:54:46] can mediawiki run on a linux server [04:54:59] i think i remember in the past it couldnt [04:56:13] huh? [04:56:16] of course it can! [04:56:25] it always has been able to. [04:56:36] interesting .. i could of swore i couldnt install it for some reason [04:56:55] needhelpme: all of wikimedias are on linux [04:57:01] does the wikisystem have any .. gallery options [04:57:07] [04:57:16] your distribution has probably packaged mediawiki and you can install it with a simple command. [04:57:22] any chance it has a auto update function [04:57:29] yes....... [04:57:31] Are there any library for validating forms in MediaWiki? [04:57:40] is there a backend [04:57:41] what do you mean chunk? [04:57:45] Semantic Forms and Simple Forms [04:57:47] like acp... for admins [04:57:48] using a template, how does one pass a parameter of the form a|b ? [04:58:02] jian, make Template:!, and then write a{{!}}b [04:59:01] what is acp needhelpme [04:59:17] administation conrol pannel.. like a backend for admins [04:59:20] mediawiki has a variety of admin functions. why don't you install it and RTFM? [04:59:57] my other site admin has installed "copermine" but im looking at using mediawiki [05:00:07] anychance you could point me to a link where i could see the gallery [05:00:12] for media wiki.. an example [05:01:31] no, but you could google for 'mediawiki gallery' [05:02:16] bah! distro packaged options are evil! they break things and mediawiki never just "works" with them [05:02:43] that's not good advice snake. if it breaks for them they will find out, but i strongly doubt you have tried even very many packaged mediawikis [05:03:41] no but i see almost someone in here every second day with packaged versions not working properly [05:03:51] yeah i never use the hosts automated install's [05:03:52] there buggy [05:03:59] crazy usernames and db names too [05:04:13] and.. mediawiki is FLOSS right [05:04:20] i'm not answering anymore of your questions. [05:04:24] they all suck. [05:04:41] aib, i tried that and it didn't work- i'm trying to make a template {{infobox}} that contains the code {{#ev:{{{video}}}|285}}, and i'm trying to call it with {{infobox| video = youtube|SbTHExJzJXs}} with the end result, after transclusion, of the code {{#ev:youtube|sbTHExJzJXs|285}}. However, once I wrote video = youtube{{{!}}}SbTHExJzJXs, my page had an error message, "EmbedVideo does not recognize the video service "youtube{{{! [05:05:29] oh my bad [05:05:34] three brackets [05:05:36] lemme try two [05:05:48] yes jian, i hate to say it but its trial and error from here [05:05:55] i've had to do it too:p [05:06:43] my rules of thumb, IIRC, are that templates in parser functions are good, but parser functions can't go in parser functions [05:06:53] so wrap your parser functions in templates, and use {{!}} whenever you have to [05:07:24] oh, here's a trick [05:07:52] if your parser function only has one parameter, you don't have to use a pipe [05:07:56] you can just use a colon [05:08:08] well, it actually has more [05:11:42] so the problem is that, at this point, the #ev template is taking "youtube|sbTHExJzJXs" to be one string rather than two parameters separated by a pipe. but i guess this is only natural because the hack with the {{!}} made it look like a single string [05:15:41] yes, i've had this problem before [05:16:02] let me see if i can describe the solution [05:16:27] create Template:ev, that writes out the #ev parser function. declare all possible parameters, but use #if conditionals to test if they were declared [05:16:33] empty template paramaters should be ignored [05:16:49] clear? [05:17:38] hmm i'm still digesting what you wrote [05:19:54] let me just encourage you and say that it is possible, so be clever:) [05:20:01] haha [05:20:22] so {{ev|youtube|sbTHExJzJXs|285}} goes to {{template:ev}} which calls so {{#ev:youtube|sbTHExJzJXs|285}}? [05:22:26] i think i'll just work around by setting youtube as a constant and avoiding the pipe [05:22:30] thanks for your help though [05:43:36] i've set up my wiki to get images from commons by editing $wgForeignFileRepos. my images of the form [[image:xx]] usually display as pictures, but they also frequently turn up as text links. is this a common bug? [05:46:33] Are there any libraries for form validation that extensions can use? [05:54:50] hellooo? [06:04:17] anyone know? [06:08:49] slt [06:14:49] please, anyone? form validations? [06:17:35] 03(WONTFIX) Refresh the wanted pages report - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 +comment (10p858snake) [06:32:49] Hello [06:32:59] I would like to know how to do footnotes under mediawiki [06:34:37] 03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 +comment (10soxred93) [06:34:55] Uhm. Found [06:34:58] Cite.php :P [06:35:02] Wikipedia extension [06:38:07] 03(NEW) API list=recentchanges results are completely wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16877 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (mrzmanwiki) [06:59:29] Free-state-of-mind question: There is a wiki Main_Page out there on the internet. Can I get that article (with templates:..) on my own wiki without copying everything side-by-side? [07:13:45] Nobody knows a solution? [07:14:43] Yes. Special:ExpandTemplates should do it, I think? [07:14:44] Muzz: Special:Export [07:14:59] Muzz: there's an option to export templates also [07:15:04] then you just use Special:Import on your wiki [07:17:03] Oh, but thats a dangerous Special page. Thanks a bunch guys, that should do the trick. If not, i'll be back! ;-) [07:21:43] hi, i want to use a wiki. how is the software itself licensed? [07:23:12] what license does mediawiki use for the source of mediawiki? i guess thats hte way to ask this? [07:28:39] GPL [08:29:23] Hi all. I'm writing an extension that takes a simple data parser call and returns something. [08:29:31] However, it doesn't appear to be compatible with templates. [08:29:39] Any idea what I might read to figure it out? [08:30:06] if you want someting to interact with template parameters and such you may wish to write a parser function [08:30:20] {{#functioname:parameter|more parameters...}} [08:30:28] Instead of a tag extension (which is what I have, right?) [08:30:37] this allows {{{template parameters}}} {{MAGICWORDS}} {{#parserfunctions}} etc [08:30:41] right [08:30:50] however, if you have 1.12+ you can just use #tag [08:30:58] this turns a parser tag into a parser function [08:31:10] now, that might be confusing with your example [08:31:29] I mean, if you have as a tag, you can turn it into a parser function with {{#tag:flibble|parameters}} [08:31:39] I see. [08:33:33] Very slick. Works as expected. Thank you for your help. [08:33:39] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Miscellaneous [08:37:31] i'm trying to get the checkuser extension installed, but the two tables already exist [08:37:40] is there a way to get it to rebuild those? [08:39:41] it seems to be checking a !isset( $options['force'] ) [08:39:46] how do I set the force option? [08:47:35] 04(REOPENED) Refresh the wanted pages report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 +comment (10scream) [08:48:11] 03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 15enhancement->trivial (10scream) [09:03:29] 03(mod) Error in editing timestamp? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4744 (10JSchulz_4587) [09:06:23] hi [09:06:28] help please [09:06:36] someoe? [09:06:55] <|X|> !ask ohayo5 [09:06:55] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [09:07:11] hey there [09:07:51] by default, a thumbnail is created for pics greater than 800x600px [09:08:16] i'd like to change the default to 800x800px for all users [09:09:24] <|X|> !thumbnail [09:09:24] --mwbot-- For information on configuring thumbnailing on MediaWiki, please refer to . [09:11:22] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgImageLimits [09:13:51] i'm getting an error: Key 'cuc_user_ip_time' doesn't exist in table 'xxxx_cu_changes' [09:14:00] while trying to get checkseur working [09:15:02] str4nd> thank you very much sir! [09:15:04] "from within function "CheckUser::doUserIPsRequest" [09:16:14] Prod-you, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser#Basic -- what's the second part? [09:16:49] configuration? [09:17:01] no: Open command prompt and run php install.php [09:17:06] did that [09:17:12] ...cu_changes table added and populated. [09:17:56] Are you using 1.13.3? [09:17:59] yes [09:18:06] we had checkuser installed a long time ago [09:18:09] but it never worked [09:18:11] so we disabled it [09:18:22] that was at like 1.7 or something (don't remember anymore) [09:18:32] so now i'm trying to fix it (someone else did the install) [09:18:57] okay then, have you updated that extension? [09:19:03] everythings up to date [09:19:51] I set $options['force']=true; [09:19:58] so that it would recreate the tables [09:20:02] since they already existed [09:20:54] and it has a long list of [09:20:55] ...doing rc_id from 327181 to 327280 [09:20:55] ...doing rc_id from 327280 to 327379 [09:31:23] [10:29] > dude [09:31:23] [10:29] > for [09:31:23] [10:29] > $wgDefaultUserOptions['imagesize'] = 2; [09:31:23] [10:29] > i suppose the value 0 is allowed? [09:31:23] [10:29] > in [09:31:32] [10:30] > array ( [09:31:32] [10:30] > array(320,240), [09:31:32] [10:30] > array(640,480), [09:31:32] [10:30] > array(800,600), [09:31:32] [10:30] > array(1024,768), [09:31:41] [10:30] > array(1280,1024), [09:31:41] [10:30] > array(10000,10000) [09:31:41] [10:30] > ) [09:31:41] [10:30] > i suppose 320,240 is =0 [09:31:42] [10:30] > 640,48=1 etc.... ? [09:32:22] pastebin multi lines plz> http://rafb.net/paste/ [09:32:36] hi, is someone using the openid extension for mediawiki ? [09:33:58] !e OpenID | Xteven [09:33:58] --mwbot-- Xteven: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenID [09:33:59] 04(Splarka04): please answer question, i'll use pastebin next time [09:35:07] p858snake: does that mean I have to ask there ? because its a wiki [09:35:19] read the page? [09:35:27] yes [09:35:53] its a copy of the readme file, but wikified [09:37:06] you don't have to ask there but more likely hood you would get a reply for someone that knows about it [09:39:33] 03aaron * r45389 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Disallow broken Talk:File:x type titles (bug 5280) [09:39:41] 03(mod) Oddly named talk pages cannot be unwatched via Special:Watchlist /edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5280 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [09:40:02] p858snake: ok, thx [09:52:20] i'm thinking of filing api feature requests to do a number of random titles or prefixes in a single call [09:55:05] actually the autocomplete feature seems to already do multiple prefix lookups at once... [10:19:15] 14(DUP) Refresh the wanted pages report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [10:19:15] 03(mod) Occasional run of Special:WantedPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15434 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [10:25:05] 03(NEW) Disable Special:CrossNamespaceLinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16878 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (raimond.spekking) [10:34:20] 01hi, I continue getting "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver" when uploading images on my local mediawiki [10:34:43] 1) 01chmods on /images does not help [10:35:00] 012) $wgUploadDirectory = "images"; does not help [10:35:30] 013) this http://p.defau.lt/?PCS5HK38BVNcDcPr1gDoGw also makes no change [10:35:46] 03(mod) Collections uses the WP:GFDL shortcut - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16250 +shell; +comment (10raimond.spekking) [10:36:20] 01So, is there some log file I can look in to find, what exactly producing this error? [10:41:57] 014) tips given in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Fedora_Core also make no change [10:47:59] 03raymond * r45390 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeCommentsListView.php: [10:47:59] Use new message 'ellipsis' [10:47:59] Note: two calls of $wgLang->truncate() in CodeRevisionListView::formatValue and SpecialCode:messageFragment not touched. [10:47:59] Should be changed altogether per http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2008-December/040796.html [10:54:02] 01please, where I can find some log related to wiki errors? I mean, system-specific log, not just about magic *public* folder unwriteable [11:00:27] 03(mod) Occasional run of Special:WantedPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15434 major->trivial; +comment (10p858snake) [11:04:12] 03raymond * r45391 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php CodeReview.php CodeRevisionView.php): [11:04:12] * Append $wgCodeReviewStyleVersion to the call of .js file too [11:04:12] * Localize a hardcoded message [11:06:35] where is the mediawiki repository? google never finds it [11:07:27] hippietrail: is this what you mean svn.mediawiki.org ? [11:07:54] p858snake: maybe - so obvious (-: i was thinking something like lxr [11:12:58] 01hey, does anyone knows how to get some more information on "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver"? [11:14:45] how can I verify /var/www/wiki/images is writable?01 [11:16:17] omg, that feels like being blind - no help out of helps, just hang around and try to guess! [11:25:55] marcus__: if you haven't changed it, it'll just be the images directory, in the directory where you installed the wiki [11:27:58] ok, let me please ask some questions? = I'm thinking : how can I manualy check apache has access to /images? While apache has its own login/pass account in system (apache or www-data for debians), I cannot login myself as apache. But it would be useful to check what exaclty is happening [11:28:21] is it a shared web server? [11:28:37] no, just local [11:28:47] on virtual machine [11:29:28] if you do "ps -C apache2 -f" it'll tell you what user apache is running as [11:29:40] assuming it's a debian-like system [11:29:55] no, it's fedora [11:30:13] well, ps -ef and it'll be in there somewhere [11:30:30] apache or httpd [11:30:59] yes, it's apache [11:31:36] 03(mod) Send a diff in email on page changes in addition to URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4323 +comment (10sorin.sbarnea) [11:31:36] I've also tried to recreate apache account, and it told it exits already [11:31:55] if you do "groups apache", it'll tell you what groups the apache user is in [11:32:09] you can paste the output here [11:32:13] Had the following fatal error earlier (no use case known): [11:32:14] [04-Jan-2009 10:39:07] PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function toHtml() on a non-object in /var/www/w/includes/ImagePage.php on line 925 [11:34:29] marcus__: still there? [11:34:35] yes [11:34:44] you're meant to be telling me what groups apache is in [11:34:51] groups apache says apache : apache [11:35:01] and also do: ls -ld /var/www/wiki/images [11:35:32] no such file or directory [11:35:47] how can I verify /var/www/wiki/images is writable? [11:35:57] if it doesn't exist, it isn't writable [11:36:10] where did you install mediawiki? [11:36:18] pardon, during my attempts, I've moved everything to /var/www/html [11:36:58] /var/www/html/wiki, or just /var/www/html? [11:37:09] marcus__: you were the one that used the package version to install MW wern't you? [11:37:26] drwxrwxrwx 7 apache root 4096 2009-01-04 07:48 /var/www/html/wiki/images [11:37:54] yeah, but I hope I'm not the only one :) [11:38:12] alright, now try "getenforce" [11:39:42] *Emirati101 Greeting [11:39:44] ok, says Enforcing [11:39:59] Hello :) [11:40:31] setenforce permissive [11:40:37] 04TimStarling01, btw, what is Enforcing? [11:40:43] SELinux [11:40:55] Can anybody help in Skins? [11:40:58] it means SELinux will screw up your stuff [11:41:45] then try to upload something [11:41:59] Tim: I need help regarding Skins? [11:42:18] after getenforce I had everything unaccessable, i guess that should be so [11:42:44] getenforce doesn't change anything, it just shows you if SELinux is enforcing stuff [11:43:06] setenforce permissive says type=1404 audit(1231050634.762:4): enforcing=0 old_enforcing=1 auid=0 ses=2 [11:43:07] "setenforce permissive" is what I'm suggesting [11:43:34] then upload [11:44:37] WOW! [11:44:54] woks now, thank you very much! [11:45:19] so, what is the trick I can reproduce on the clean system? [11:45:37] setenforce permissive, and that's all? [11:45:41] marcus__: well, you have two options from here [11:46:00] you can either turn SELinux back on and work out how to fix it, or you can leave it off and disable it in the future when necessary [11:46:32] this is probably relevant: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/selinux-user-guide/f10/en-US/ [11:46:34] somewhere in there... [11:47:05] if you installed it from a package, then you can file a bug against that package [11:47:14] the mediawiki package, that is [11:47:52] hm, ok, I'll try [11:48:11] I'm not experienced in SELinux, however [11:48:31] neither am I, we used to just disable it on the wikimedia servers [11:49:41] hm, nice [11:56:29] 03siebrand * r45392 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesSl.php: Import messages without warnings from sl.wikipedia.org [12:01:21] 03(NEW) Add Link to help page on draft pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16879 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [12:14:10] hello [12:27:23] 03aaron * r45393 10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/Article.php): Expand ArticleRollbackComplete hook to include reverted rev [12:35:17] 03aaron * r45394 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/RevisionReview_body.php: Should be >= not > [12:38:36] 03aaron * r45395 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): Track # of rollbacked edits [12:43:46] is there any way I can prevent mediawiki from automatically marking text as
? [12:46:24] for some reason I'm getting three pre blocks when I try to add http://pastebin.com/d1d71da72 to a page [12:46:46] don't indent the code [12:47:04] Im trying to implement the search class in a maintenance script. If I create a SearchEngine object and run searchText I get zero results back, but if I create a SearchMySQL object and run searchText I get the expected results back. Any ideas? [12:47:38] best bet would be wrap it in one big code/pre box or source box (if you have Geshi installed) [12:48:04] ah! thanks p858snake =) [12:49:15] 03(NEW) Interwiki links should not be handled like local/ static pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16880 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: DumpHTML; (emmanuel) [12:55:35] ok it has to do with setLimitOffset [12:56:02] when SearchEngine creates the DB specific class [12:56:27] it sets a min/max of zero [13:20:26] 03aaron * r45396 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Check maxRevertedEdits [13:35:50] 03(mod) Importing (transwiki) only the top revision should succeed reliably - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16875 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:55:23] Is there a way to show the image caption without a frame? [13:58:02] maybe modify the css ? [14:04:01] Looks like thats gonna be the case [14:04:04] thanks [14:04:12] np [14:04:46] 03aaron * r45397 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Turn off userpage requirement [14:33:39] 03(NEW) CAN'T EDIT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16881 04CRIT; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (archolman13) [14:38:35] 03purodha * r45398 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 3 dirs): MediaWiki:Protect-expiring needs to have date and time separated. [14:47:20] 03(mod) index.php downloaded on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16881 summary; +comment (10Platonides) [14:50:31] 03(mod) index.php downloaded on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16881 +comment (10p858snake) [15:06:17] Hi. On of the pages on my wiki is 'download', and I'd like to like to it using '[[download|Download]]'. But I noticed mediawiki translates the word 'download' to the contents of 'MediaWiki:Download'. Setting it to 'download' gives me an ugly looking link, setting it to 'Download' makes it link to the wrong page. How can I fix this? [15:06:47] * like to *link* to it using '[[download|Download]]' [15:07:30] btw when MediaWiki:Download is deleted, it somehow reverts to the default ('download') [15:09:28] hi there, i have the following problem. i installed mediawiki 2 years ago on my webspace, and now the mysql db has a size of 628mb. how can this be? and is there a possibility of reducing? :) [15:10:06] like removing older versions of articles, or something like that [15:26:37] Hyb: you can but their are copyright issues [15:39:13] TimStarling: i found a bug in parser but i don't know how to describe it or what could be the cause thus i can't file a bug atm - special:expandtemplates renders the wikicode correctly, but the article is rendered wrong. please ping me when you'll have some time and i'll show you appropriate pages. thanks [15:44:14] hmm, after some further testing it seems to me that whitespaces after [[category:...]] are stripped if after them either [[]] or [] link comes [16:04:22] 03(NEW) Whitespaces after [[Category:...]] links stripped when [[. .]] link follows after whitespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16882 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (danny.b) [16:05:04] TimStarling: found the minimal case ^^ ;-) [16:43:45] 03(mod) API list=recentchanges results are completely wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16877 +comment (10b-jorsch) [17:10:21] is there a way to make a template that accepts unknown amount of parameters (n>1) ? [17:13:55] something like "foreach" [17:26:24] 03rotem * r45399 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReview.i18n.php: Localization update for he. [17:30:29] 03(NEW) Feeds ignore additional parameters in URL for Special: Recentchangeslinked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16883 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (danny.b) [17:30:30] 03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646 (10danny.b) [17:30:37] Whats the name of the extension that allows per page logos? [17:31:10] nvm [17:31:12] found it [17:36:11] 03(NEW) Feed links in sidebar should comply to the parameters of displayed page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16884 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (danny.b) [17:36:17] 03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646 (10danny.b) [17:37:36] piksi: by workaround, yes [17:37:55] however it depends on what kind of content you want to have there [17:38:14] it works for such cases and in others it can't be used [17:39:01] 03ialex * r45400 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (SpecialOpenIDConvert.body.php SpecialOpenIDLogin.body.php): Some XHTML fixes [17:39:10] as far as you'll want unlimited number of "parameters" of the same kind it's a bit doable [18:09:52] PHP Notice: iconv() [function.iconv]: Detected an illegal character in input string in /var/www/w/languages/Language.php on line 1345 [18:25:15] 04(REOPENED) Refresh the wanted pages report - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 +comment (10scream) [18:25:31] 03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report / Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 summary (10scream) [18:27:19] 03(mod) RSS feed link should have silly orange icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043 +comment (10danny.b) [18:27:29] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Question...how hard is it for you guys to add something to Translate for translation? Was thinking about getting the Wikimedia WAP interface into translation :) [18:27:46] ^demon: easy if the format is suitable [18:28:43] <^demon> Format is less than ideal :) [18:28:47] <^demon> array keys are the english translation. [18:29:23] <^demon> Example from de: "Spoken Wikipedia" => "Gesprochene Wikipedia", [18:30:16] 03(mod) RSS feed link should have silly orange icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043 (10danny.b) [18:31:26] <^demon> The files are in trunk/wap/lang/ [18:39:12] ^demon: yeah it isn't very nice [18:39:44] 03(NEW) PHP Notice: iconv(): Detected an illegal character in input string in /.../languages/Language. php on line 1345 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16885 minor; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (niklas.laxstrom) [18:39:46] lag [18:47:30] 03(mod) Periodical run of currently disabled special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15434 summary; +comment (10danny.b) [18:49:03] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Not familiar enough with the code to make it suck less :p [18:51:23] 03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report / Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 +comment (10danny.b) [18:56:27] w0000000000000000t APC is excellent [18:57:39] 03(mod) Entries in the image table with invalid titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14365 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [19:01:54] <^demon> Nikerabbit: There's no rush on it anyway. Need to talk to Brion to see what else is needed to make the WAP gateways work for other languages. Just thought about getting a head start on localization. [19:04:49] 03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report / Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:05:28] moin [19:23:03] 03ialex * r45401 10/trunk/extensions/LanguageSelector/LanguageSelector.php: [19:23:03] * Trying to fix the JavaScript to submit the form when changing the language: walk recursively through parent node until it finds a form element [19:23:03] * Whitespaces fixes [19:28:49] What's the best way to validate a form in a MediaWiki extension? Are there any libraries? [19:29:56] "Validate" in what sense? [19:30:42] Hello MediaWikians [19:31:41] ialex: why it doesn't have normal go button? [19:32:05] Nikerabbit: there's a button, but hidden with JavaScript [19:33:12] ialex: it is a poor practise to work differently what users expect [19:33:33] How is it possible to make Skins ? [19:33:41] !skinning | Bahaw [19:33:41] --mwbot-- Bahaw: Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: [19:34:39] Is it possible to get skins that previously used on Wikimedian projects ?? [19:35:06] wikimedia generally uses default skins [19:35:17] but you can of course rip anything you see there. [19:35:56] yah, but there was some different skins used in Wikinews [19:36:24] probably just a bit of custom css [19:36:26] !css [19:36:26] --mwbot-- To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and [19:36:51] I'v found some images of skins that was previously used in Wikinews, over a page of Wikinews [19:37:25] ask there then [19:38:30] hello, is there a way standard to get tex formulas numbering in wiki? [19:38:36] let me give you URL's to there. Maybe we have somebody online here , who own that [19:39:49] marcus__: i don't think so. [19:41:12] well, I guess tex's \begin{equation} and \end{equation} scoping tags won't work here, because there is no tex document at all, and numbers cannot be automaticaly generated [19:41:47] 03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report / Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 (10scream) [19:41:48] Duesentrieb: Please check it, I am looking for something similar like this one, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles#Wikinews , Can you help me plase [19:41:55] please^ [19:42:36] 03siebrand * r45402 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/SpecialLanguages.i18n.php: Reworded 'ow_conceptmapping_no_action_specified' and 'ow_mapping_unsuccessful' [19:43:15] Check this on Wikinews http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Custom_skin [19:43:16] hm, I can simply create a table with math and desired number [19:43:16] Bahaw: Click on the link in the page you gave... http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Custom_skin/Latest_code [19:44:12] 03ialex * r45403 10/trunk/extensions/LanguageSelector/LanguageSelector.php: Reset $wgLang when setlang is passed and the user is logged in so that it applies immediately [19:44:59] Wuzur: Yeah, I just see it, but whats that ? [19:44:59] Is that is code of this skin ? [19:45:08] yes [19:45:34] oh, what I do with it now? [19:45:59] howdy guys, [19:46:16] I'm trying to build my own little extention to mediawiki [19:46:18] Bahaw: read the page about skinning. this is a "real" skin, meaning it's php code which needs to be integrated properly. [19:46:31] mot "skins" are just modifications of the css styles. [19:46:34] but I've got a small question :$ [19:46:48] clona: ask it, then [19:47:42] is there any way to "store" data in a variable between two functions that get's called from the web ( and ) I need to count how many times bigbang gets called each wiki page [19:48:20] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/WikinewsSkin-1024.png/600px-WikinewsSkin-1024.png , Is this same ? [19:48:49] I can make a small example of how the code looks now and put it on pastabin [19:49:32] The code we can see on Latest code is for same Skin, as we can see on this image ?? [19:49:39] clona: you can store that kind of info in the parser state, or paser result object. [19:49:45] Bahaw: Do we know all pages, skins and tips... It should but just try it out [19:49:49] clona: you get the parser object as a param to your tag handler. [19:50:10] Bahaw: perhaps talk to the author of the skin? [19:50:39] ok, who is author? [19:50:51] Duesentrieb: Okey how can I store it in the result ? do you know if there is a simple example of this ? (<- is fairly new to this ) [19:51:00] just give me URL to his talk page [19:52:08] Bahaw: how should we know? [19:52:20] Bahaw: you saw wiki pages. so look who wrotem them, perhaps. [19:52:49] clona: you can store it in the parser itself... $parser->myVar = 27; [19:53:07] May be Noclip or Viceroy321. [19:53:33] anybody know about them ? [19:54:12] yay netsplit [19:54:27] by the way, is there any software, where we can design or create layout of these skins ? [19:54:39] clona: or in the parser output (aka result): $parser->mOutput->foo = 23; [19:54:52] Bahaw: no. [19:55:08] Duesentrieb: Okey, I'll try that :D [19:55:10] clona: $parser would be a parameter of your handler function (the third, iirc) [19:55:15] would be great if that did the job! [19:55:21] oh [19:55:42] how ca we try them?? by uploading files [19:56:33] Aha! [19:56:39] okey, This is helping me ALOT! [19:58:21] give me 5 min so I can try it out! [19:59:03] clona got help, but i'm still looking for....... :( [19:59:45] 03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report / Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 +comment (10stwalkerster) [20:00:11] is there any channel to discuss about MediaWiki software? [20:00:19] other^ [20:00:50] Why sould there be two? [20:00:54] this one is usually enough.... [20:01:06] but no one is guiding me [20:01:44] i means to say i am getting help in this room, [20:01:51] not^ [20:02:09] well, if you need guiding, you can pay me $50/hour, and I'll help you [20:02:38] ok Laaknor, I'm ready [20:02:50] Bahaw: we have been guiiding you to the documentation you need to read [20:02:54] we can't teach you programming... [20:02:55] 03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report / Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 (10scream) [20:02:55] Tell me mode of payment [20:02:58] Bahaw, you've only asked two questions that I can see, and one has been answered already - you can't say you're not getting help [20:02:59] werdnum: ping? [20:03:51] there is no easy way to create new skins, you have to experiment and test until you get it looking how you want to look [20:03:57] Trunk, I'v read documentation, but someone please tell me how is it possible to put these code and where/ [20:04:07] what code? [20:04:12] and what are you trying to do? [20:04:14] ok ok, but tell me where to put these codes? [20:04:31] and if is there any software available, i want to design one i have in mind [20:04:44] Bahaw: in the skins directory... but that should be in the documentation. [20:05:01] you can use any software you'd like, but you have to know HTML and CSS before you start [20:05:20] what about Dreamvieawer? [20:05:26] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning#File_Locations [20:05:30] there it is. [20:05:30] the easiest way to test a new skin is to use a copy of mw installed on your box [20:05:41] Laaknor: and at least a bit of PHP [20:05:51] that way you don't have to worry about uploading files every time you change something [20:06:06] but thats about the only shortcut you can take [20:09:39] When using external image links, is there any way to resize the displayed image? [20:09:57] no. [20:10:07] Okay, thanks. :) [20:10:32] hi, what license is the code for mediawiki protected by? [20:10:59] "MediaWiki is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License..." [20:11:00] gpl [20:12:04] huh, because i thought that with gpl, anything you use it for has to be gpl too? and people are using these wiki [20:12:20] 's in proprietary ways? [20:12:29] you can license the contents of the wiki in a different way [20:13:14] ok, so can i add this wiki code to a program i build that is not gpl? [20:13:22] no, right? [20:13:42] what if i put it on a website where all the code is not gpl? [20:13:43] no [20:13:47] oh, your meaning the code [20:13:56] yeah [20:14:00] AMDfanboy: if that code uses mediawiki, then no. [20:14:09] AMDfanboy: if it just sits on the same domain, then yes. [20:14:36] AMDfanboy: gpl sais that if you "link against" gpl code, your code must be gpl. [20:15:31] ok. so if i use it on a website, i'm not linking against it? what is linking against it? [20:15:36] btw, thanks for the help! [20:15:37] Duesentrieb: okey, Now I have this: http://pastebin.com/d4f1a157f then I get bar out of the second function. This works:) but, how would I now get some data out of the first function there? [20:15:48] there is proberbly some $parser->outputbuffer [20:16:21] clona: you *probably* want to change the author name... [20:16:45] Duesentrieb: I'm just useing this is a test function :) the other one has it changed alll readdy :) [20:17:57] AMDfanboy: I suggest you contact a lawyer if you have questions about your use of GPLd code. Unless there is a license lawyer here. :) [20:18:09] Duesentrieb: but, got an idea ;D [20:18:20] <- new a nebie with capital letters on new [20:18:52] its actually not about my use, we're making a platform that might be used similarly to mediawiki, so i figured we should use the same licensing. ;-) [20:18:56] clona: i don't really see what you are trying to do, so i don't know what to tell you. your extension tag will be replaced by whatever you return from your function. that's the point. [20:19:25] AMDfanboy: There are a gazillion wikis and doc management solutions out there. I hope you have something new to offer. :) [20:19:45] Duesentrieb: what I want, is to have return "hello hook" but also fill the $parser->myVar with bar [20:19:57] so I can in fetch the content of myVar [20:20:01] 03siebrand * r45404 10/trunk/extensions/UsageStatistics/ (3 files): Move some formatting from message to code. Could be improved further. [20:20:01] AMDfanboy: calling mediawiki's php functions from other php code would require the other php code to be gpl. if you modify existing code, the result is also required to be gpl. this is simplified, but should give you the idea. [20:20:09] its nothing like that at all :-) [20:20:26] clona: so, err... set the variable, and after that, return whatever you want? [20:20:35] clona: you know, there can be more than one line in the function :) [20:20:43] AMDfanboy: so do whatever [20:20:55] Duesentrieb: hmmm.. koey I'll try that once more.. got a error when I did :$ [20:21:10] ok, good. but if someone wants to integrate it into their website does their website need to be gpl'd? [20:21:23] can you even gpl a website? gpl is just for code, right? [20:22:03] AMDfanboy: Seperate the content from the code. [20:22:05] Aha :D I had a type:D thank you guys ALOT for the help! [20:23:31] AMDfanboy: You can use mediawiki to display and manage copyrighted content. You can't redistribute modified mediawiki code in your own 'AMDfanboys Super Wiki Suite only $599' [20:23:43] However, IANAL [20:23:58] AMDfanboy: gpl is intended for code, but can be applied, in theory, to anything you have a copyright on. but a site'S *content* is not affected by the license of the software you use to build it. [20:24:45] rsimpkins: you can even do the 'AMDfanboys Super Wiki Suite only $599' as long as it'S gpl :) (yes you can sell gpled software) [20:25:01] ok, so the code that links to mediawiki, to integrate it in, doesnt need to be gpl'd? [20:25:36] 03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report / Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 (10innocentkiller) [20:25:57] AMDfanboy: depoends on your definition of "links" and "integrate". [20:26:17] lets say i only change a few config files in media wiki. [20:26:44] AMDfanboy: you can "link" and "integrate" over a http interface. in that case no. but it could also be directly in php. then yes. the line is blurry. becase a scripting languages like php does not "link" in the technical sense [20:27:05] which is one of the reasons why i hate the gpl: it was written for C programs and it not much good for anything else. [20:27:06] ok. [20:27:15] version 3 too? [20:27:29] what would you recommend instead? [20:27:31] yes, afaik. [20:27:46] we [20:27:51] 03(WONTFIX) Refresh the wanted pages report / Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871 +comment (10scream) [20:28:11] we're building a platform, we want others to work on it, and to be able to integrate it into their sites. [20:28:31] well... dunno, havn't really looked for a copyleft software license in a while. usually things are gpl for compatibili8ty reasons, or i use BSD or something similarly free. [20:28:48] there's a huge comparison of licenses on wikipedia :) [20:29:38] i'll check it out. [20:29:43] thanks! [20:31:56] I have a strange problem with tables [20:32:16] if I make a table with only one row all contents will be displayed in a column [20:33:52] is there a bug known in MW 1.13.3? [20:34:28] is it possible to get the hash of an image through the API ? [20:35:21] nm, found the answer [20:36:39] <^demon> root-80686: Check bugzilla for table bugs? [20:38:31] ^demon: nothing I could find [20:39:17] <^demon> Can you pastey the markup somewhere? [20:39:34] guillom: prop=imageinfo&iiprop=sha1 [20:39:55] ialex, yep, found it on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Query_-_Properties#imageinfo_.2F_ii :) [20:40:00] :) [20:40:03] mais merci :) [20:40:14] just read your second post ;) [20:40:55] ^demon: just have a look at the source code: https://wiki.openzim.org/Main_Page [20:41:46] i already tried it on my userpage with some ordinary text [20:41:56] but I got the same problem [20:42:15] as soon as I create a second row it works [20:42:52] ^demon: oh I'm so stupid [20:43:01] sorry, I found the "problem" [20:43:17] I don't know why I mixed |- and || [20:43:29] Duesentrieb: okey, once more! Thank you for the help! This has helped me ALOT! [20:43:47] np [20:44:02] <^demon> root-80686: Alrighty :) [20:55:34] is there a way to convert a {{{variable}}} to lower or uppercase? [20:56:59] within the wikisyntax [20:59:41] parser or stringfunctions don't seem to contain such functionality and they all are case sensitive [21:00:10] {{lc:}} ? [21:01:36] Nikerabbit: thanks, googling didn't bring it up.. [21:13:12] 03ialex * r45405 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/SpecialOpenIDFinish.body.php: [21:13:12] * Fixed SQL query: user_real_name and user_email cannot be null [21:13:12] * missing second param when running UserLoginComplete hook [21:13:12] * Some whitespaces fixes [21:14:29] Does it's possible to convert SGML to wiki syntax? Any converter out there? [21:17:42] timofonic: for simply formatting, it' [21:17:52] it's probably possible. there are converters for html [21:17:59] so go sgml -> html -> wikitext [21:18:12] stuff like footnotes and images will get tricky. [21:18:25] links might be easy or tricky, depending on how you have them. [21:18:31] Duesentrieb: uhh, there's a big number of footnotes here :P [21:19:01] well, html doesn't really support that concept, and mediawiki doesn't either. [21:19:13] No sgml2wiki :( [21:19:19] converting them to some template call would be realtively simple but would require some custom code. [21:19:26] the question is how you would wnat them shown. [21:19:58] because, again, mediawiki doesn't support the concept of footnotes. though there is an extension for citiong sources, which works like a footnote system basically. [21:20:09] Duesentrieb: The sgml files are there: http://www-plan.cs.colorado.edu/freesci/darcs/glutton/doc/ [21:20:14] Duesentrieb: Yes, Cite.php [21:20:21] indeed [21:21:09] well, in your place, i'd probably write my ownconverter. based on some xml processor. [21:21:21] your sgml is probably well formed xml anyway mostly. [21:21:44] Duesentrieb: Sadly, I have no clue about programming. I did think some generic converter was enough but I'm wrong :( [21:21:59] Duesentrieb: XML is a subset of SGML it seems :) [21:22:22] yes it is. but thatdoesn't imply that any sgml can be processed as xml... but yours looks like it can. [21:22:53] anyway: you have custom tags and structure. so you need a custom converter. [21:24:25] timofonic: i don't see a good way without programming [21:24:36] it can be done with xslt though [21:24:51] Duesentrieb: How much do you want for that custom code? :) [21:25:33] hehe... i have a stiff rate, and i'm booked out atm :) [21:25:42] also, i havn't worked with sgml before, only xml. [21:25:49] Duesentrieb: I see [21:25:53] :P [21:27:35] <Duesentrieb> timofonic: gotta go now. good luck :) [21:27:42] <timofonic> Duesentrieb: The effort will go to a FOSS project, paying for the code will be a personal contribution and save work on the converting :P [21:27:48] <timofonic> Duesentrieb: So that's a "NO". OK :) [21:28:14] <Duesentrieb> too much on the stack already, sorry [21:28:21] <timofonic> Duesentrieb: no problem [21:28:31] <Duesentrieb> cu [21:54:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ForeignAPIRepo has no getZoneUrl(), making DumpHTML fail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16832 +comment (10innocentkiller) [21:55:39] <CIA-57> 03siebrand * r45406 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUserrights/GlobalUserrights.i18n.php: Fix incorrect message name [22:01:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Uploads sometimes are incomplete: file is there, but image page is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15430 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [22:15:01] <eghjaytee> does anyone have a VCL file for varnish 2.0 and mediawiki? [22:17:14] <eghjaytee> pwd [22:20:20] <aib> any way to iterate of the categories a page is in using some parser function? [22:20:57] <aib> i don't see any way to dynamically list the cats a page is in:( [22:22:12] <Splarka> !dpl [22:22:12] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList> and <http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Dynamic_Page_List>. [22:22:43] <aib> soon i will have every extension in the matrix installed :) [22:23:36] <Splarka> the matrix has you, knock knock [22:26:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) API: Deleted contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16858 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [22:29:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) API: Add parameter clcategory to prop=categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16844 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [22:31:17] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) JSON encoding errors for characters outside the BMP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16798 +need-review; +comment (10roan.kattouw) [23:00:47] <aib> dpl is insanely complicated [23:01:08] <Splarka> no kiddin' [23:01:51] <Splarka> say MediaWiki is a beach, and you have a bucket, and need a spade... dpl is a bulldozer [23:02:13] <Splarka> DPL is like an analogy [23:04:44] <aib> lol [23:45:51] <buzz_> evening/morning [23:46:32] <aib> afternoon, actually [23:48:16] <wikibugs> 03(mod) API list=recentchanges results are completely wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16877 (10matthew.britton) [23:51:00] <AaronShaf> To the author of FlaggedRevs, there is desperately needed the ability to auto-approve template changes [23:51:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) New page log can be fooled into not showing a new page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16705 (10matthew.britton) [23:52:38] <Mike_lifeguard> AaronShaf: You might want to add a request to bugzilla where the developer can find it [23:52:47] <Mike_lifeguard> He's not here right now, and I doubt anyone will remember to tell him. [23:52:47] <buzz_> aib, damn. i was close though! [23:53:40] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Sister projects search results box placement on IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16886 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (axelboldt) [23:54:20] <aib> thank the odds gods i came up with a non-dpl solution [23:54:44] <aib> that extension is screaming "make something really complicated with me so i can break and no one will maintain me!" [23:59:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) API: Add parameter clcategory to prop=categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16844 (10matthew.britton)