[00:08:35] <Simetrical>	aib, Wikinews apparently depends heavily on it.
[00:09:21] <aib>	oh? i haven't been there lately
[00:11:07] <aib>	looks fancy
[00:55:02] <chuck>	hey, I'm getting a fatal error in Special:RestrictUser
[00:55:03] <chuck>	Fatal error: Call to undefined method Language::getDisplayNsText() in /home/yourwiki/htdocs/html/w/includes/specials/SpecialListUserRestrictions.php on line 142
[00:55:22] <chuck>	the language class doesn't have that method, so I'm not sure why this line would be trying to use it
[00:57:01] <chuck>	should it be getNsText()?
[01:01:06] <chuck>	oh, nevermind, i think it may have been fixed in a later revision
[01:14:55] <Y-Less>	Are there other perfectionists that hate the minor recent changes. Is there any extention to tweak the Special:RecentChanges page?
[01:17:01] <MZMcBride>	"Tweak" isn't very specific.
[01:17:59] <Y-Less>	MZMcBride: To change the layout. Example: Remove (Talk | contribs | block) :) 
[01:19:41] <MZMcBride>	I don't think there are any extensions.
[01:19:43] <MZMcBride>	Though the software itself has a few options to tweak the layout, I think.
[01:19:45] <MZMcBride>	Special:Preferences 
[01:24:36] <p858snake>	http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/Category:Extensions <theres one in there somewhere that can put in tinto a table layout and then you can strip stuff from that
[01:24:47] <p858snake>	but i can't remember what it is called
[01:25:22] <Y-Less>	Ok, need to reboot
[01:25:25] <Y-Less>	brb
[01:25:56] <p858snake>	oh and i just found it on the mediawiki archives
[01:26:06] <Skizzerz>	bah, no brion :(
[02:22:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  blank edit summary message is displayed when an auto summary is put in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8912  +comment (10pink-ink)
[02:27:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API list=recentchanges results are completely wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16877  (10b-jorsch)
[02:29:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow limited indirection by redirects, up to $wgMaxRedirects levels. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11644  (10skizzerz)
[03:11:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) References are not shown to Anons when they don' t have edit permissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11224  +comment (10svemir)
[03:55:50] <werdnum>	Simetrical: what's up?
[03:55:55] <werdnum>	oops, siebrand what's up?
[03:56:59] <Betacommand>	is their a way to look at recent bugs on bugzilla?
[03:57:29] <Prodego>	Betacommand: advanced search
[03:57:43] <Prodego>	then the "Only bugs changed between: " setting
[04:03:57] <MZMcBride>	Betacommand: Grep the mailing list?
[04:04:07] <MZMcBride>	Or the logs from here...
[04:04:15] <Prodego>	or do what I said
[04:04:38] <Prodego>	MZMcBride: anything wrong with my way?
[04:04:56] <Miazz>	What are the Templates you'll definitely need to insert in A wiki?
[04:05:01] <MZMcBride>	Bugzilla's search always makes me sad. ;-) And he said "recent" which I figured meant new.
[04:05:05] <Prodego>	A wiki?
[04:05:10] <MZMcBride>	But yours likely works. 
[04:05:27] <MZMcBride>	!templates | Miazz 
[04:05:27] --mwbot--	Miazz: For more information about templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>. The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions> and enabling HTML Tidy <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[04:05:53] <Miazz>	Before I even was finished typing I got my answer
[04:08:22] <Miazz>	I got another question regarding MediaWiki but I will first install the forgotten modules
[04:31:51] <Miazz|busy>	Seen this Main_Page http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page ? Its outrageous.. Wish I could make that.
[04:39:04] <Miazz>	Meh. Stealing is ripping huh?
[05:25:40] <Prod-you>	i'm getting a Key 'cuc_user_ip_time' doesn't exist error when using checkuser
[05:25:46] <Prod-you>	and i've followed all the instructions
[05:28:30] <Prodego>	Prod-you: not that I can anaswer it, but what version of mw and cu?
[05:28:47] <Prod-you>	1.13.3 and latest
[05:29:06] <Prodego>	the svn version of CU?
[05:29:12] <Prod-you>	yea
[05:31:29] <Prodego>	Splarka: around?
[05:31:35] <Splarka>	sorta
[05:32:16] <Prodego>	Prod-you, might need you :)
[05:32:34] *Prod-you 	was here yesterday as well
[05:33:11] <Splarka>	dunno nuthin' bout server-side voodoo of checkuser 
[05:33:31] <Prodego>	Prod-you: I am absolutely not competent to help you, but
[05:33:41] <Prodego>	can you actually look at the tables
[05:33:44] <Prod-you>	yep
[05:33:47] <p858snake>	in your db do you have any tables that start with cuc_ ?
[05:33:59] <Prodego>	more importantly, are they in the right DB
[05:34:04] <Prod-you>	yep
[05:34:10] <Prod-you>	well
[05:34:19] <Prod-you>	the table is <project>_cu_changes
[05:34:29] <Prod-you>	and it has various cuc_* columns
[05:34:43] <Prodego>	is project the correct DB name
[05:34:52] <Prod-you>	well, it's within the correct db
[05:35:55] <Prod-you>	and all the tables begin with the correct prefix
[05:36:28] <Prodego>	the table should be $wgDBprefixcu_changes
[05:36:28] <Prod-you>	so in summary
[05:36:45] <Prod-you>	the database is right, the prefix is right, the prefixis on the columns are right
[05:36:52] <Prod-you>	(there are a bunch) but that specific column isn't there
[05:37:08] <Prodego>	what is $wgDBprefix set to
[05:37:19] <Prod-you>	stratw
[05:37:55] <Prodego>	no underscore after it?
[05:38:00] <Prod-you>	mysql> show columns from stratw_cu_changes;
[05:38:23] <Prod-you>	gave me a bunch, but no cuc_user_ip_time
[05:38:27] <Prodego>	if $wgDBprefix isn't stratw_ then 
[05:38:30] <Prod-you>	it is
[05:38:40] <Prod-you>	wasn't reading it properly
[05:38:45] <Prodego>	ok, good :)
[05:38:55] <Prodego>	and you are saying cuc user ip time, isn't in cu changes
[05:39:16] <Prod-you>	cuc_user_ip_time isn't in stratw_cu_changes
[05:39:58] <Prodego>	could you list everything that is?
[05:40:26] <Prod-you>	http://rafb.net/p/QRnupU34.html
[05:42:12] <Prod-you>	google search for this only brought up people on uncyclopedia who had the problem
[05:42:16] <Prod-you>	and there was no solution there
[05:43:03] <Prodego>	hmmm, I am no mysql expert but "INDEX cuc_ip_hex_time (cuc_ip_hex,cuc_timestamp)," doesn't seem to create a column, so
[05:43:08] <Prodego>	just an index
[05:43:40] <Prodego>	so what is the error message you get?
[05:43:42] <Prodego>	(the whole thing
[05:44:21] <Prod-you>	apologize for the paste in here but
[05:44:22] <Prod-you>	A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
[05:44:22] <Prod-you>	(SQL query hidden)
[05:44:22] <Prod-you>	from within function "CheckUser::doUserIPsRequest". MySQL returned error "1176: Key 'cuc_user_ip_time' doesn't exist in table 'stratw_cu_changes' (db1)".
[05:46:07] <Prod-you>	i guess i might try deleting the tables and trying it again
[05:46:38] <Prod-you>	the question is, how do I delete a table?
[05:47:48] <Prodego>	drop table
[05:47:51] <Prod-you>	and if I did that, would it break anything?
[05:47:56] <Prod-you>	assuming I reinstalled
[05:48:15] <Prod-you>	ah whatever, just did a backup yesterday :P
[05:48:18] *Prod-you 	hopes for the best
[05:48:23] <Prodego>	probably, but whatever :)
[05:48:44] <Prodego>	it sounds to me like the indexes aren't being recognized for some reason
[05:48:50] <Prodego>	I know nothing, keep that in mind :)
[05:48:55] <Prod-you>	:D
[05:49:00] <Prodego>	I wonder... 
[05:49:33] <Prodego>	hey TimStarling, you about and feel like helping out? If not I am enjoying messing about :)
[05:51:20] <TimStarling>	you haven't confirmed whether the index exists
[05:51:31] <TimStarling>	SHOW CREATE TABLE would do that
[05:51:36] <Prodego>	yea, mostly because I am useless :)
[05:51:44] <Prodego>	Prod-you: do that
[05:53:03] <Prod-you>	dropping the table and rerunning the install worked
[05:53:21] <Prodego>	ok, probably the indexes weren't created for some reason
[05:53:35] <Prodego>	and that caused everything to, well, not work
[05:53:54] <Prodego>	thank you Tim
[05:53:55] <Prod-you>	i think the previous maintainer of this db had tried putting checkuser on before
[05:54:15] <Prod-you>	that's the only reason i can figure that this wouldn't have worked :/
[05:55:15] <Prod-you>	thanks Prodego :)
[05:55:56] <Prodego>	Prod-you: thank tim too, because a) he knew what he was doing and b) his time is expensive :)
[05:56:18] <Prod-you>	lol
[05:57:03] <Prod-you>	TimStarling, though I didn't use your method, thanks for the extension, it should be very helpful :D
[05:57:46] <Prod-you>	ah
[05:57:49] <Prod-you>	well here's a new issue
[05:57:54] <Prod-you>	Fatal error: Call to undefined method CheckUserLogPager::getDateCond() in /home/swiki/public_html/w/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php on line 1287
[06:09:17] <Prod-you>	well that would explain it
[06:09:30] <Prod-you>	getDateCond doesn't exist in 1.13.3
[06:12:49] <Prod-you>	branched in july, that was added in august
[06:13:04] <Prod-you>	meaning CheckUser isn't compatible with 1.13 anymore :/
[06:16:04] <Prod-you>	12(TimStarling12): will going back to version http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/?pathrev=39192 require me to recreate the tables?
[06:16:31] <TimStarling>	I doubt it
[06:16:41] <Prod-you>	just droppig in the new files should work?
[06:18:17] <TimStarling>	yes
[06:18:30] <Prod-you>	k, trying it out
[06:39:32] <Prod-you>	it works
[06:39:33] <Prod-you>	thanks tim
[06:59:09] <siebrand>	werdnum: still here?
[07:21:16] <dominoed>	Hello, any chance someone here knows whether a) there is an archive of previous complete dumps of enwiki? or b) when in the near future we're going to have a complete dump?
[07:23:11] <Tubarao>	b) does "when pigs can fly" sound about right?
[07:23:35] <Tubarao>	oh.. ;) btw.. 
[07:23:42] <dominoed>	Tubarao, based on previous evidence, yes. :P
[07:24:35] <Splarka>	archives? you mean more complete than the lists at http://download.wikimedia.org/ ?
[07:25:19] <dominoed>	Splarka, there aren't any complete dumps there with modification history. The last one that was successful that I have was from Jan 2008.
[07:37:53] <TimStarling>	does <noscript> work? I heard somewhere that it's broken
[07:43:02] <p858snake>	i believe they are working on a new dump process which means eng wiki will get done faster which means more frequently
[08:06:47] <timofonic>	Are there some mediawiki table generator? One with nice javascript and such
[08:08:37] <timofonic>	Something like this but for wiki: http://www.teamopolis.com/tools/bbcode-table-generator.aspx
[08:09:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add "WP" alias to NS_PROJECT in the French Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16887 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (alex.emsenhuber)
[08:16:18] <ddwagnz>	hi, is it possiable to login as the "Admin" user after a fresh install?
[08:16:28] <ddwagnz>	its saying the account doesnt exisit
[08:16:53] <ialex>	ddwagnz: use username/password you provided in config/index.php
[08:17:05] <ddwagnz>	oh wait
[08:18:35] <ddwagnz>	im logging into the wrong one XD i had mediawiki's site up not my install!
[08:18:39] <ddwagnz>	how emabrassing
[08:19:13] <Wuzur>	This happend more than one person in the past...
[08:19:21] <ddwagnz>	haha
[08:19:45] *ddwagnz 	does a fresh install again
[08:28:07] <marquisite>	Hello, is anybody able to have a quick read of a question posted on the support desk regarding upload problems? The details are here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Sections/Uploading#Uploading_any_kind_of_file_fails_-_loops_back_to_empty_upload_form
[08:31:08] <p858snake>	marquisite: does it work with MultipleUpload disabled?
[08:31:54] <marquisite>	nope
[08:32:35] <marquisite>	MultipleUpload was installed after attempting to use the stock upload form and it failing.
[08:45:01] <CIA-57>	03ialex * r45407 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/ (SpecialProtectedpages.php SpecialProtectedtitles.php): 
[08:45:01] <CIA-57>	* Use user's language for 'protect-expiring' message in Special:Protectedpages and Special:Protectedtitles, no need to use it as content as it will simply be shown to the user and nothing else
[08:45:01] <CIA-57>	* removed $wgOut->setPagetitle( ... ), already done in SpecialPage::execute()
[08:47:19] <CIA-57>	03siebrand * r45408 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (58 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2009-01-05 08:33 UTC)
[08:49:48] <kraut>	moin
[09:02:23] <CIA-57>	03siebrand * r45409 10/trunk/extensions/ (244 files in 198 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2009-01-05 08:33 UTC)
[09:20:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wfDebugLog writes an error in Apache error.log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16689  (10etienne.massip)
[09:21:01] <Splarka>	and they're on at least 14 channels...
[09:56:37] <haptiK>	how do i get mediawiki to ignore certain markup i cant find this in the docs hahha
[09:58:31] <Duesentrieb>	haptiK: <nowiki>bla</nowiki>
[09:58:37] <Duesentrieb>	or use html entities
[09:59:06] <haptiK>	thk you 
[10:00:34] <marquisite>	:( Just rolled back to version 1.12.3 and the upload problem still exists.. also seems the same issue also applys to the 'my preferences' forms because none of that data is saved either.. it just reverts to the values entered at registration.
[10:12:05] <metheocrite>	Hi. What are the names of the functions I can use to translate the Sidebar. I think there where under the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wg* hierarchy, but I can't find it anymore (didn't find it on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Localization either).
[10:13:37] <ialex>	!sidebar
[10:13:37] --mwbot--	To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar>.
[10:14:21] <Splarka>	the text of the sidebar is translated automatically if you follow those instructions
[10:14:40] <Splarka>	** Foo|Bar   if MediaWiki:Bar exists you can create MediaWiki:Bar/xx for each language, etc
[10:14:45] <Splarka>	the links are not translated
[10:15:00] <Splarka>	unless... you add them to $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg
[10:15:30] <Splarka>	for example, Wikimedia commons, and meta, do that for the main page and some other links, so each language can have a different main page
[10:15:59] <metheocrite>	ialex: err, that's not really what I was looking for.
[10:16:35] <metheocrite>	Splarka: ah thanks. I gave up on this solution cause I can only translate the text not the url.
[10:17:07] <metheocrite>	Someone showed me a function that can translate bot url and displayed text.
[10:17:18] <Splarka>	'bot url'?
[10:17:24] <metheocrite>	$wgXXX, but I can't remember exactly.
[10:17:37] <metheocrite>	*both* sorry
[10:17:46] <Splarka>	yes, that is $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg 
[10:18:33] <Splarka>	okay, lets compare. En.wp does not have 'mainpage' in that array
[10:18:38] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BlankPage?uselang=en  and  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BlankPage?uselang=fr
[10:18:47] <Splarka>	note that the logo links to [[Main Page]] in both
[10:19:01] <Splarka>	the top navigation link's text is translated, but both link to the same place
[10:19:11] <Splarka>	now lets look at commons where 'mainpage' is in that $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg  array
[10:19:18] <Splarka>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:BlankPage?uselang=en  and  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:BlankPage?uselang=fr
[10:19:26] <Splarka>	notice the logo and first navigation link go to different pages
[10:19:46] <Brucevdk>	Hi, is there anything which allows one to display a thumbnail gallery of all uploaded images Such as Special:ImageList but then with thumbnails?
[10:19:49] <Splarka>	that is what it does, there may be other issues causing problems though
[10:20:37] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: Special:NewFiles ?
[10:21:01] <metheocrite>	Yes that's it. Many thanks Splarka. You are a great helper. I remember you helping a couple of times before already. Looks like you're always here in case of need. Plus your explications are really complete and clear.
[10:21:42] <Splarka>	rar
[10:21:56] <Splarka>	though I might remember you trying it before and having probs... sometimes a purge is needed
[10:22:03] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: hmm, was that not available in 1.13.2?
[10:22:24] <Splarka>	meta switched on 'mainpage' and the cache stuck around, what worked was to purge MediaWiki:Sidebar/xx for each language (no, that shouldn't work, but it did)
[10:23:44] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: it was called something else IIRC
[10:23:48] <Splarka>	check Special:SpecialPages
[10:23:52] <Splarka>	'gallery of new files'
[10:24:34] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: ah found it, I wasn't looking there, thanks a lot
[10:27:27] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: I have a JS to turn ImageList into a gallery too, somewhere
[10:27:45] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: oh that might be a good one
[10:28:10] <metheocrite>	Oh yes, wfMsg whas the one I was looking for (I guess). So (maybe it is a stupid question) this goes in the source code, right ? This means I need to have a shell access to make the modification ?
[10:28:41] <Splarka>	it goes in LocalSettings.php but yah, shell
[10:29:03] <metheocrite>	Oh ok, thank you again, i'll try later then.
[10:30:03] <Splarka>	hmm
[10:30:15] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: hmm, might be able to write a few lines of Greasemonkey script to do this myself, just some XPath expressions and using <embed> to show the SVGs
[10:30:47] <Splarka>	hmm
[10:30:55] <Splarka>	sec, fixing up my script, I'll show ya in a min
[10:30:59] <Splarka>	(hasn't been used in a while)
[10:31:04] <Brucevdk>	:-)
[10:33:17] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/galleryimagelist.js
[10:33:31] <Splarka>	there, that works for 1.14 and probably back to 1.12
[10:35:34] <Splarka>	that uses the API and generates offical actual thumbnails (if your setup supports it), and restricts them to 100 wide and 150 tall (unless the original is smaller)
[10:36:21] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: uh... where does this go again?
[10:36:54] <Splarka>	heh, well, I put it in my user /monobook.js and it works fine
[10:37:04] <Splarka>	you could possibly adapt it to greasemonkey but that might be a chore
[10:40:52] <marquisite>	Hello, is somebody able to have a read of a question posted on the support desk regarding upload problems? The details are here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Sections/Uploading#Uploading_any_kind_of_file_fails_-_loops_back_to_empty_upload_form
[10:40:52] <marquisite>	Since posting on the support desk, I've tried rolling back to 1.12.3 which didn't fix the issue. I've since upgraded to 1.13.3. I've discovered that the problem is not isolated with the Special:Upload form either, as the same issue applys to the Special:Preferences form, where upon saving the form will reload with the details submitted during the account sign up.
[10:41:38] <marquisite>	and not the details which were entered into the form previously
[11:00:26] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: doesn't work yet, I'll look at it later
[11:20:35] <uriel09>	whatsa  media wiki
[11:21:02] <Sasa^Stefanovic>	what ?
[11:21:06] <Trynemjoel>	http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=mediawiki
[11:21:07] <uriel09>	what is it for
[11:21:18] <Trynemjoel>	making a wiki
[11:21:39] <uriel09>	isnt tha\t what wikipedia does for you
[11:21:47] <uriel09>	why would i need mediawiki here
[11:22:04] <Duesentrieb>	wikipedia is a specific wiki. mediawiki is a wiki software.
[11:22:37] <Duesentrieb>	there are thousands of wikis out there, for different people, contents and purposes...
[11:22:54] <Wuzur>	And Wikipoedia is powered by MediaWiki
[11:23:00] <uriel09>	ah
[11:25:25] <Duesentrieb>	uriel09: perhaps read the respective article on wikipedia: Wiki, Wikipedia, MediaWiki, Wikimedia
[11:28:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Quick link to set of *preferred* languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16888 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (wardvanheddeghem)
[12:22:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Removal of mo language codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16889 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (toniher)
[12:27:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Removal of mo language codes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16889  +comment (10p858snake)
[12:48:06] <CIA-57>	03aaron * r45410 10/trunk/phase3/: ignore StartProfiler.php
[12:50:03] <domas>	why?
[12:50:09] <domas>	it is example how stuff has to be done
[12:50:26] <Charitwo>	he isn't here atm
[12:58:16] <ialex>	damn, we have a lot of spambot at mediawiki.org
[12:58:38] <Mike_lifeguard>	you sure do :)
[12:59:12] <ialex>	started some days ago
[13:01:43] <Mike_lifeguard>	well, it started about 6 months ago, but you're really only being hit by the current wave
[13:07:02] <marquisite>	is there some sort of external script that could be used to add image information into the wiki's database? I can't get the stock Special:Upload form to work, nor will Special:MultipleUpload work either.. as mentioned in the this support desk message: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Sections/Uploading#Uploading_any_kind_of_file_fails_-_loops_back_to_empty_upload_form
[13:09:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API list=recentchanges results are completely wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16877  (10matthew.britton)
[13:09:31] <marquisite>	Thus I figured an alternative may be to upload an image via FTP manually.. and since uploading from a URL won't work either (by setting $wgAllowCopyUploads to true) there's the step of adding a record to the database.. 
[13:17:30] <Cyrille54>	Hello all
[13:17:40] <Cyrille54>	I am using MediaWiki for the first time
[13:17:58] <Cyrille54>	I have tried to find a solution on Internet during few days but without success
[13:18:22] <Cyrille54>	I would like to make a multilingual wiki. How do I have to proceed please?
[14:01:25] <Sidearm>	Aloha, me again
[14:01:34] <Sidearm>	I'm trying to set up a different language of my wiki
[14:01:45] <Sidearm>	But of course I want to use the same images, and if possible user databases
[14:01:49] <Sidearm>	So far no luck :(
[14:02:27] <Sidearm>	I've tried http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family#Configure but either I got it wrong or it doesn't work :p
[14:02:58] <Sidearm>	Or it doesn't do what I think it does ^
[14:24:51] <bostik>	hi all
[14:27:09] <bostik>	i'm triyng to use PageSecurity on mediawiki 1.13 and i get an error with no solution
[14:27:34] <ialex>	what error?
[14:27:53] <bostik>	i've found a description of the bug here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:PageSecurity#failed_to_return_value_under_mediawiki_1.12 but there's no solution or workaround
[14:27:57] <ialex>	!e PageSecurity
[14:27:57] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageSecurity
[14:28:09] <bostik>	PageSecurity
[14:28:35] <xee>	hi everyone
[14:29:10] <xee>	I wanted to create a local mediawiki installation that works exactly like wikimedia commons, is this possible?
[14:29:25] <CIA-57>	03aaron * r45411 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Typo
[14:29:58] <Sidearm>	xee http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family#Wikimedia_Method
[14:30:10] <Sidearm>	Something like that?
[14:30:31] <bostik>	is there a way to use it with version 1.12 ?
[14:30:36] <bostik>	or 1.13
[14:30:36] <bostik>	?
[14:30:41] <ialex>	bostik: replace fnPageSecurityUserCanHook with this: http://rafb.net/p/hhOIqw44.html
[14:31:23] <bostik>	ialex, i try 
[14:31:46] <xee>	Sidearm: thanks but what I meant is similar templates and configuration to that used in wikimedia commons
[14:32:04] <Sidearm>	Ah lol
[14:33:05] <Sidearm>	I'm trying to have 2 wiki's [(http://wiki.travianteam.com) /mediawiki/index.php  and (http://wiki.travianteam.com) /en/mediawiki/index.php] use the same resources, the ones from [(http://wiki.travianteam.com) /mediawiki/index.php
[14:33:18] <Sidearm>	Images and users specifically :p
[14:33:38] <Sidearm>	No luck so far :(
[14:35:34] <bostik>	ialex, thanx but now it generates other problems
[14:35:50] <ialex>	:(
[14:35:58] <bostik>	ialex, undef method in Revision::revText()
[14:36:01] <bostik>	:
[14:36:04] <bostik>	:(
[14:44:57] <Sidearm>	ialex : any clue what this error is? :<
[14:44:58] <Sidearm>	"Title::getInterwikiLink". MySQL returned error "1142: SELECT command denied to user 'Tranqersql1'@'127.0.0.1' for table 'wiki_interwiki' (127.0.0.1)".
[14:45:23] <ialex>	Sidearm: wrong right for the sql user
[14:45:31] <Sidearm>	Odd
[14:45:34] <Sidearm>	I have all rights
[14:45:52] <Sidearm>	let's just leave out interwiki then... that works
[14:45:54] <Sidearm>	lol
[14:47:51] <Sidearm>	Nope :( overall errors
[14:48:00] <ialex>	GRANT DELETE,INSERT,SELECT,UPDATE,CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON `{$wgDBname}`.* TO 'Tranqersql1'@'127.0.0.1' IDENTIFIED BY '{$wgDBpassword}';
[14:48:25] <ialex>	replace $wgDBname and$wgDBpassword
[14:48:35] <Sidearm>	And run that query?
[14:48:41] <ialex>	(the {...} too)
[14:48:44] <ialex>	yeah
[14:48:57] <ialex>	with root user or any user ableto do that
[14:49:08] <ialex>	+ " "
[14:49:12] <jouhle>	Hey there. I was working on this Bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5491 I'd like to know if MediaWiki has any policy about new pictures/icons because I was thinking about implementing the feature with Icons but am not wure if this is allowed.
[14:49:41] <bostik>	can you point me to some extension that has (more or less) the same function of PageSecurity extension but that works with recent version of mediawiki (1.13) ?
[14:49:41] <Sidearm>	=[
[14:49:42] <Sidearm>	#1044 - Access denied for user 'Tranqersql1'@'127.0.0.1' to database 'Tranqersql1' 
[14:50:18] <ialex>	hmm
[14:50:33] <Sidearm>	I can make, delete, move...
[14:55:51] <bostik>	no ideas ?
[14:59:31] <CIA-57>	03jojo * r45412 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.templates.php): applied patch by Mathias Weber: allow saving/loading of articles links with a specific revision using permalinks
[15:02:47] <Sidearm>	Oh... fixed
[15:02:49] <Sidearm>	:)
[15:03:18] <Sidearm>	I'd set $wgSharedDB to 'wiki' rather than 'Tranqersql1'
[15:05:25] <Sidearm>	Now to figure out how to make the images shared
[15:07:30] <ar23>	Hi, quick question...how would one wrap the contents table around all the text on the wiki page as in this example: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Localization
[15:12:39] <ar23>	Hi, can anyone help me with a problem?
[15:13:21] <Simetrical>	ar23, you won't know until you say what the problem is.
[15:13:26] <Simetrical>	Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[15:15:16] <ar23>	how would one wrap the contents table around all the text on the wiki page as in this example: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings
[15:18:16] <Sidearm>	Hmmm, any way of just having anything that tries to access /en/mediawiki/images/ redirect to /mediawiki/images/ ?
[15:22:14] <ar23>	Simetrical, would you know how to solve my problem?
[15:25:28] <CIA-57>	03jojo * r45413 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: do not append revision to display titles
[15:25:46] <Tubarao>	ar23: see the TOCright-template as used in the page you linked to. Use a <div> around the __TOC__ magic word, and play with the style.
[15:26:22] <CIA-57>	03jojo * r45414 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: fix
[15:26:53] <ar23>	Tubarao, sorry I'm a pretty novice user to mediawiki...how would I find the TOCright-template?
[15:27:29] <Tubarao>	ar23: here: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TOCright&action=edit
[15:28:02] <CIA-57>	03jojo * r45415 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: fix
[15:28:12] <Tubarao>	ar23: but please, don't make any changes to this one.. :)
[15:28:38] <ar23>	Tubarao, lol thank you :)
[15:29:55] <ar23>	Tubarao, so where can I copy and paste this code in my own wiki page?
[15:31:22] <Tubarao>	Make your own Template, as in http://your.wiki.tld/wiki/Template:TOCright
[15:31:54] <Tubarao>	and include it on your page as {{TOCright}}
[15:33:40] <Tubarao>	ar23: oh.. and you should do the "copy and paste" of the code from http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:TOCright&action=edit into http://your.wiki.tld/wiki/Template:TOCright
[15:51:00] <Sidearm>	ialex : is there any way to 'trick' the MW into thinking the images are stored elsewhere?
[15:51:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Colour-coding of items in page histories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5491  (10johan.uhle)
[15:56:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Refresh the wanted pages report / Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16871  (10stwalkerster)
[15:58:23] <ohayo5>	hello
[15:59:05] <ohayo5>	i'd like to prevent unregistered users from accessing files on my wiki
[15:59:11] <ohayo5>	is it possible?
[15:59:25] <ohayo5>	this is to prevent leeching bots
[15:59:33] <CIA-57>	03simetrical * r45416 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Add comment on urlencoding fragments
[15:59:51] <CIA-57>	03simetrical * r45417 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Sanitizer.php Title.php parser/Parser.php): 
[15:59:51] <CIA-57>	Refactor somewhat so that escapeId() works right
[15:59:51] <CIA-57>	r45267 commented out the logic prohibiting numbers and so on at the
[15:59:51] <CIA-57>	start of id's. I've uncommented this logic, but passed 'noninitial' as
[15:59:51] <CIA-57>	an option to escapeId() in all necessary circumstances. Shouldn't
[15:59:54] <CIA-57>	change behavior, this is to simplify some further work I'm about to do.
[16:00:02] <CIA-57>	03simetrical * r45418 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Linker.php parser/Parser.php): (log message trimmed)
[16:00:03] <CIA-57>	When $wgEnforceHtmlIds=false, add legacy anchors
[16:00:03] <CIA-57>	This means that old links will still work in a lot of cases. However,
[16:00:03] <CIA-57>	if the legacy anchor is invalid XML, we omit it. In particular, on
[16:00:05] <CIA-57>	non-Latin wikis, practically all old section links (from external
[16:00:09] <CIA-57>	sources or using external links) are likely to break, since the first
[16:00:10] <CIA-57>	character of legacy anchors starting with a non-ASCII character will be
[16:00:45] <ohayo5>	CIA-57?
[16:00:58] <ohayo5>	not sure if you talk to me
[16:01:04] <ohayo5>	o_O
[16:01:16] <Sidearm>	CIA-57 is a bot
[16:01:33] <ohayo5>	oh I see, sorry then
[16:01:37] <ohayo5>	thanks
[16:02:07] <ckdake>	hello - some robot is trying to create accounts every few minutes on a mediawiki install of mine from an email domain that is bouncing their registration emails. I looked around and couldn't find a way to block account creation based on e-mail domain. Anyone have any ideas?
[16:02:28] <piquadrat>	Hi! Is it possible to configure mediawiki so that it redirects the user directly to the Main Page (or some other specific page) after login?
[16:02:58] <ohayo5>	<ckdake> i know of a way but you will need a licensed software
[16:03:14] <ckdake>	ohayo5: what do you mean?
[16:03:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show watched status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14224  (10matthew.britton)
[16:03:59] <ohayo5>	i have merged the wiki  cookie & authent procedure with that of myvBulletin
[16:04:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Section heading anchors shouldn't begin with invalid characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9530  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:04:19] <ohayo5>	then i can censor domains in my vb control panel
[16:04:57] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Anchor encoding is not one-to-one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13016  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:05:50] <ckdake>	ohayo5: hmm. that seems a bit overkill for this unfortunately
[16:06:05] <ckdake>	finding the bit of code that creates accounts and just adding a regex is probably easier!
[16:07:53] <ohayo5>	certainly sir!
[16:09:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) This page doesn't print correctly with IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16890 major; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (stephane.barizien)
[16:10:12] <timofonic>	I have an html file I need to convert to wiki. Are there an html to wiki offline converter?
[16:10:37] <Tubarao>	timofonic: tried google?
[16:11:49] <timofonic>	Tubarao: Yes, but tons of trash there. UWC seems the best candidate, the rest are online ones or CPAN stuff (not for end users)
[16:12:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) This page doesn't print correctly with IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16890  (10stephane.barizien)
[16:13:16] <Tubarao>	timofonic: tried this one? http://openfacts2.berlios.de/html2wiki/
[16:14:14] <timofonic>	Tubarao: It's not offline
[16:14:34] <yksinaisyyteni>	heh.. openfacts is *still* running mediawiki 1.2
[16:14:38] <Tubarao>	ah.. sorry about that..
[16:15:18] <timofonic>	Tubarao: My html files are so big that are ignored by all online wiki converters :(
[16:15:45] <timofonic>	little less than 800k, so they ignore them :(
[16:17:03] <timofonic>	Tubarao: http://search.cpan.org/dist/HTML-WikiConverter/bin/html2wiki
[16:26:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) XHTML compliance (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:26:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Id conflicts between headers are possible in obscure circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:26:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod)  Id conflicts between headers are possible in obscure circumstances - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16891  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:31:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Section heading anchors shouldn't begin with invalid characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9530  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:31:16] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) The Sanitizer doesn't validate the contents of id attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4515  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:32:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User-specified HTML IDs can be the same as interface IDs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7356  summary (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:32:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) XHTML compliance (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[16:45:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) This page doesn't print correctly with IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16890  (10matthew.britton)
[16:46:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) raw images sail straight through if start with digit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16892 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (jidanni)
[17:04:12] <ohayo5>	please help wikidevs
[17:04:34] <ohayo5>	i'd like to block unregistered users from accessing files
[17:09:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Some images are being served full-size, not thumbnailed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16892  summary; +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[17:17:03] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Some images are being served full-size, not thumbnailed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16892  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:17:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:19:36] <piksi>	is there any reason why the wikitext of system message "Large-file" isn't rendered but the whole thing is output as plaintext on 13.3 ? for some reason MW applies a bulletin right before the Large-file output
[17:23:51] <brion>	good morning all and happy new year!
[17:25:59] <CIA-57>	03dale * r45419 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (6 files in 5 dirs): updated playlist support
[17:27:24] <ohayo5>	please help wikidevs
[17:27:25] <ohayo5>	i'd like to block unregistered users from accessing files
[17:27:54] <ohayo5>	due to violent attacks of leeching scripts
[17:34:56] <Simetrical>	Normally files aren't even served through MediaWiki, they're served by your webserver.
[17:34:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451  (10jidanni)
[17:35:29] <Simetrical>	So there's no straightforward way to require authentication that I know of.
[17:36:11] <yksinaisyyteni>	img_auth.php
[17:36:25] <Simetrical>	Hmm, right, I've heard of that.
[17:36:28] <Simetrical>	Never used it, though.
[17:36:41] <yksinaisyyteni>	i think you just need to set your image path to it
[17:36:51] <yksinaisyyteni>	but i'm not sure how you'd restrict access to logged in users, unless the wiki is already restricted so
[17:37:03] <yksinaisyyteni>	(UTSL, i suppose)
[17:38:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[17:43:30] <Sidearm>	Can noone tell me wether it's possible to tell MW somehow to use /mediawiki/images rather than /en/mediawiki/images? :) Both are in the same root directory
[17:44:09] <yksinaisyyteni>	Sidearm: $wgUploadPath = '/mediawiki/images';
[17:44:48] <yksinaisyyteni>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUploadPath
[17:46:34] <Sidearm>	Rofl
[17:46:44] <Sidearm>	I've been here for hours only for it to be that easy? :p
[17:46:46] <Sidearm>	Thank you
[17:47:49] <Majorly>	is it possible to merge admin and bureaucrat into one user right?
[17:48:08] <yksinaisyyteni>	Majorly: yes, just look at what rights they have in DefaultSettings.php
[17:48:17] <yksinaisyyteni>	and create a new group with all of those rights
[17:48:29] <Majorly>	it's been proposed on meta-wiki, I won't be doing anything :)
[17:51:53] <Sidearm>	What is the table user_newtalk for?
[17:52:15] <yksinaisyyteni>	'you have new messages'
[17:52:45] <Sidearm>	Would it be wise to use this as a global table?
[17:53:29] <yksinaisyyteni>	yes, but it won't do what you want
[17:53:34] <yksinaisyyteni>	the link will point to the wrong wiki
[17:53:38] <Sidearm>	Ah :)
[17:53:52] <Sidearm>	Considering the talk pages aren't global of course
[17:54:20] <Sidearm>	I praise this community :p
[17:54:39] <Sidearm>	When I started out I had no knowledge of tables, sql or php in general :p
[17:54:58] <Sidearm>	I still don't have much knowledge but I understand a bit :)
[17:55:13] <yksinaisyyteni>	ohayo5: please talk in the channel
[17:55:22] <ohayo5>	ye
[17:55:26] <ohayo5>	please explain
[17:55:45] <ohayo5>	what should I do?
[17:56:20] <yksinaisyyteni>	ohayo5: have a look at this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_Authorisation
[17:58:52] <ohayo5>	thanks yk
[17:59:00] <ohayo5>	bt help me more please
[17:59:18] <ohayo5>	what should i do
[17:59:40] <CIA-57>	03dale * r45420 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (3 files in 3 dirs): improved playlist pause support, added big play button binding for playlist embed
[18:01:04] <ohayo5>	that's gibber jabber to me* 
[18:08:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Linebreaks are mishandled in <blockquote> and <li> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6200   +bugday; +comment (10brion)
[18:27:03] <CIA-57>	03yaron * r45421 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormInputs.inc: Fix to get 'values=' field parameters working for properties of type 'Page'
[18:28:32] <CIA-57>	03yaron * r45422 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: 
[18:28:32] <CIA-57>	Fix from Maxim Ilinykh for template parsing, fix from Serhiy Kutnii for Javascript validation,
[18:28:32] <CIA-57>	removed obsolete "no SMW installed" handling
[18:30:41] <CIA-57>	03yaron * r45423 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 1.4.1
[18:34:39] <Taldor>	How can the page title be hidden, like on wikipedia's main page?
[18:35:29] <CIA-57>	03siebrand * r45424 10/trunk/extensions/DPLforum/ (DPLforum.i18n.php DPLforum.php DPLforum_body.php): 
[18:35:29] <CIA-57>	* fix i18n issue with message 'dplforum-by'
[18:35:29] <CIA-57>	* improve (but not completely fixed) some lego constructions for localisation
[18:35:29] <CIA-57>	* fix some notices
[18:35:29] <CIA-57>	* stylize.php for code / some readability changes
[18:35:33] <CIA-57>	* bump version
[18:38:01] <Prodego>	Taldor: that is done via Common.js and Common.css
[18:38:18] <Prodego>	search those pages for 'Main Page' and you will find it
[18:41:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show watched status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14224  (10danny.b)
[18:43:26] <Taldor>	Prodego: ok, thanks
[18:50:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Section heading anchors shouldn't begin with invalid characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9530  +comment (10danny.b)
[18:53:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wfDebugLog writes an error in Apache error.log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16689  (10brion)
[18:53:45] <Danny_B>	Prodego: js not necessary for that,css is enough
[18:54:10] <Prodego>	if you want to match the wikipedia one
[18:54:33] <Danny_B>	?
[18:56:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Move wikitech wiki to new location - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16893 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (brion)
[18:59:34] <Taldor>	Prodego, Danny_B: so http://mibbit.com/pb/kh5iVc should remove the title on Main Page?
[18:59:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Uploads sometimes are incomplete: file is there, but image page is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15430  (10brion)
[19:00:24] <Prodego>	Taldor: well not quite
[19:00:27] <Danny_B>	Taldor: not
[19:00:52] <Danny_B>	body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display: none !important; }
[19:01:01] <Danny_B>	!important not necessary
[19:01:01] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "important".
[19:01:10] <Taldor>	ty
[19:01:12] <Danny_B>	mwbot: your problem ;-)
[19:01:50] <Danny_B>	Taldor: but it depends on what version of mw you use as well as on what's the main page's name
[19:02:12] <Danny_B>	eg. mediawiki's main page is called mediawiki not main page
[19:02:13] <Taldor>	Danny_B: of course
[19:05:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Template with parameters can't be used in form fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16558  +comment (10yaron57)
[19:06:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Form kills Dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15245  (10yaron57)
[19:07:04] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Validation doesn' t work for multiple template mandatory fields with preloaded data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16810  +comment (10yaron57)
[19:07:19] <Taldor>	Prodego, Danny_B: it works, thanks!
[19:09:15] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Internationalization of dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11410  +comment (10yaron57)
[19:09:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RSS feed link should have silly orange icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043   +bugday; +comment (10brion)
[19:10:17] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Form kills Dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15245  +comment (10dasch_87)
[19:22:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) A bit more internationalisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15221  (10yaron57)
[19:26:06] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) A bit more internationalisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15221  +comment (10dasch_87)
[19:33:57] <Betacommand>	whats the MW message that appears at the bottom of all IP talk pages?
[19:35:38] <OverlordQ>	check the html, class name will tell ya
[19:35:39] <Prodego>	Betacommand: [[MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer-anon]]
[19:35:52] <Prodego>	oh the talk footer
[19:37:58] <Prodego>	[[MediaWiki:Anontalkpagetext]]
[19:37:59] <OverlordQ>	err the id rather
[19:57:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Section heading anchors shouldn't begin with invalid characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9530  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[19:59:02] <mad_phoenix>	Is there a way to allow html img tags within articles on a mediawiki site?
[19:59:26] <mad_phoenix>	images at a url other than the site, that is
[19:59:51] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) dammit.lt/wikistats stopped updating - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15177  +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[20:06:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RSS feed link should have silly orange icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043  (10danny.b)
[20:10:45] <mib_7j80o9tm>	Guys I cannot see any skins when I view my personal wiki. Can anyone help?
[20:19:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Simplify URL after automatic flagging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16894 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken)
[20:29:58] <Mike_lifeguard>	werdnum: Will configure handle wgSpamRegex?
[20:37:31] <CIA-57>	03brion * r45425 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php): 
[20:37:32] <CIA-57>	* Fix XSS in Special:Search with extended engine features ("did you mean")
[20:37:32] <CIA-57>	Switched a couple of manually created '<a href>'s to use Linker functions,
[20:37:32] <CIA-57>	and put an htmlspecialchars() on the 'did you mean' snippet result which was
[20:37:32] <CIA-57>	spewing raw input-derived text into output (bad!)
[20:43:45] <mohbana>	hi, i'm (TRYING) to write a parser are there test cases some where?
[20:43:48] <CIA-57>	03siebrand * r45426 10/trunk/extensions/Review/Review.i18n.php: 
[20:43:48] <CIA-57>	* make 'review_blocked' less rude
[20:43:48] <CIA-57>	* minor tweaks to a few other messages (no localisation updates needed)
[20:47:12] <CIA-57>	03brion * r45427 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
[20:47:12] <CIA-57>	Follow-up to r45425 -- bug was in MWSearch, not core. It's supposed to be HTML-formatted, but was being built unsafely.
[20:47:12] <CIA-57>	Adding a comment on SearchEngine to clarify that getSuggestionSnippet() returns HTML
[20:49:19] <mohbana>	the grammar is just absurd
[20:49:22] <mohbana>	seriously
[20:52:41] <FunPika>	where? 
[20:54:39] <brion>	mohbana: maintenance/parserTests.txt
[20:54:41] <brion>	welcome to hell
[20:54:49] <brion>	(srsly, don't write your own parser if you care for your sanity)
[20:55:09] <mohbana>	that's in the trunk right?
[20:55:19] <mohbana>	i'd trying to write a reader for Pandoc
[21:06:20] <MZMcBride>	Hmm. /me checks the Roan trap.
[21:08:07] <^demon>	It's a trap!
[21:20:56] <Simetrical>	Majorly, at least one wiki already assigns bureaucrat rights to all their sysops.
[21:21:31] <Majorly>	Simetrical: they do it in separate rights though?
[21:22:08] <MZMcBride>	es.wiki, no?
[21:22:33] <Simetrical>	Majorly, no, they just let all sysops do stuff like rename and promote sysops.
[21:22:39] <Simetrical>	MZMcBride, maybe, don't recall.
[21:22:42] <MZMcBride>	http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:ListaUsuarios/sysop?uselang=en
[21:22:56] <MZMcBride>	Looks like almost all sysops are also bureaucrats.
[21:23:03] <MZMcBride>	s/sysops/admins
[21:23:31] <Simetrical>	The rights are still separate.  http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:ListaDerechosGrupos&uselang=en
[21:23:49] <Majorly>	which wiki then
[21:23:52] <MZMcBride>	Right. Easier to assign to multiple groups than request a software config change.
[21:24:03] <Simetrical>	Majorly, I don't remember.
[21:24:23] <Majorly>	MZMcBride: we're considering it for meta 
[21:24:35] <MZMcBride>	Giving renameuser to sysops really doesn't matter.
[21:24:58] <MZMcBride>	The elevated privilege aspect of +sysop does a bit more...
[21:25:18] <Majorly>	why?
[21:25:22] <MZMcBride>	Bureaucrats are supposed to be a safeguard and all that.
[21:25:26] <MZMcBride>	Why have safeguards? 
[21:25:29] <MZMcBride>	Common sense, I suppose.
[21:25:32] <Simetrical>	Huh, crats on Meta can remove groups as well as add.
[21:25:34] <Majorly>	they're a safeguard?
[21:25:41] <Majorly>	yes they can
[21:25:47] <Simetrical>	Anyway, yeah, this is all possible to do, sure.
[21:26:10] <MZMcBride>	Majorly: By default, they're supposed to be, yeah.
[21:26:17] <Simetrical>	Don't have to be.
[21:26:24] <Majorly>	admins on meta can become bcrats if they've been active for six months. But we plan to give them every right at once.
[21:26:30] <MZMcBride>	Sure, all of this is customizable. 
[21:26:39] <MZMcBride>	Which is probably fine for Meta.
[21:26:48] <Majorly>	since +sysop is reversible on meta, and meta is watched by stewards, I can't see problems
[21:26:55] <MZMcBride>	Just giving a bit of background / logic to the current defaults.
[21:27:03] <Majorly>	it wouldn't fly on enwiki
[21:27:09] <MZMcBride>	Little does. ;-)
[21:27:12] <Majorly>	but meta admins are generally well trusted.
[21:27:34] <MZMcBride>	Eh? They gave me +sysop.
[21:27:51] <MZMcBride>	And I'm an abusive, rouge, rogue bastard.
[21:27:52] <Majorly>	oh yeah. And I'm a bureaucrat (elected one as well)
[21:28:25] <Majorly>	I passed unanimously :)
[21:31:01] <^demon>	MZMcBride: Mmmm, rogueness :p
[21:38:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Orphan entries in templatelinks tables for nlwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16895 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (valhallasw)
[21:40:27] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Orphan entries in templatelinks tables for nlwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16895  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[21:40:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Wanted* - purge link tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16112  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[22:07:30] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Review log entries should be sent to RC/IRC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16896 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (paul.copperman)
[22:09:35] <closer__>	hi guys, is it possible to tag articles in mediawiki?
[22:09:44] <cirwin>	you can categorise them
[22:09:55] <cirwin>	and I suspect there are extensions that let you do tagging
[22:10:04] <closer__>	i looked for some extensions.  couldn't find any,
[22:10:52] <cirwin>	what's wrong with the categories?
[22:11:19] <closer__>	well, we have this project called rainntap, and sometimes people type it rainn tap, sometimes rainntap, sometimes email project, sometimes email/web project
[22:11:34] <closer__>	and i'd rather just throw those tags in there than try to create all those categories.  they don't feel right as categories hahaha
[22:11:42] <cirwin>	suppose not
[22:11:53] <Prodego>	sounds more like redirect material really
[22:12:18] <closer__>	yeah it does, but ideally i'd like to have it search and list results than make the decision and immediately redirect them
[22:12:23] <closer__>	that was just one example, ya know
[22:12:38] <cirwin>	just put the variations onto the page
[22:12:47] <cirwin>	and then the search will throw them up
[22:12:55] <closer__>	yeah, just tag the page
[22:13:03] <cirwin>	no need to tag
[22:14:41] <closer__>	but it'd be nice if i could use these tags and have them auto complete in some sort of box if i create another article similar
[22:14:41] <cirwin>	search will search page text
[22:14:41] <cirwin>	hmm, it would
[22:14:41] <cirwin>	but that sounds quite a specialist need
[22:14:41] <closer__>	tagging articles is a specialist need?
[22:14:41] <closer__>	we're already using mediawiki, so i was just wondering.  it looks like i'll have to do it the way you guys say.
[22:14:41] <closer__>	thanks for the help gentleman.
[22:14:41] <cirwin>	well
[22:14:41] <cirwin>	not tagging
[22:14:41] <cirwin>	but the features you want to do with tagging
[22:15:05] <closer__>	there ise a nice categorizing tag with autocomplete i found.  but it doesn't pull the current categories in the page and fill them in.  just overwrites them every time the page is saved.
[22:15:08] <closer__>	i suppose that will have to do.
[22:15:37] <closer__>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TagAsCategory
[22:15:39] <closer__>	that's pretty nice as well
[22:15:55] <cirwin>	ok
[22:16:06] <cirwin>	as long as you have something that works you can probably tweak it to make it better
[22:16:16] <closer__>	yeah this is pretty nice.  sticks within mediawikis confines as well
[22:17:41] <closer__>	another quick question.  how can i have my "main page" display the last 10 updated articles so whne people visit my wiki they can see the newest content?
[22:18:32] <cirwin>	I believe you can put {{Special:RecentChanges}} on it
[22:19:20] <closer__>	woo thanks
[22:19:45] <cirwin>	bit ugly though - unless your editors are careful with summaries
[22:19:50] <closer__>	no it's hella ugly
[22:19:54] <closer__>	our editors are lazy
[22:19:54] <closer__>	hahaha
[22:19:57] <cirwin>	heh
[22:23:18] <cirwin>	if there's no better solution I suppose you could get the RSS reader and link it to the Recent Changes feed
[22:24:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Review log entries should be sent to RC/IRC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16896  (10matthew.britton)
[22:25:15] <cirwin>	maybe DynamicPageList actually, now I think
[22:49:12] <LA2>	on the search page, at the bottom where I can select individual namespaces, I'd like buttons for "mark all" and "unmark all".
[22:49:37] <cirwin>	LA2: mee too
[22:49:39] <brion>	LA2: take a look at the new search form on test.wikipedia.org
[22:49:45] <brion>	does it need more tweaking?
[22:49:55] <cirwin>	I did some javascript to do that, but it broke a few months ago -  /me goes to look
[22:57:11] <Mike_lifeguard>	"Content pages" should search in whatever wgContentNamespaces is, not ns0 right?
[22:59:46] <LA2>	test.wikipedia.org is a nice start, but the "everything" link jumps directly to search everything. I'd still like a "mark all" button that marks all boxes, and then allows me to unmark one or two before I submit the search.
[23:07:05] <LA2>	btw, my SUL status for LA2-bot still shows several "unattatched" accounts for wikis that I visited today. Is there still a s2-s3 database replication lag?
[23:07:20] <|X|>	Yes
[23:07:35] <|X|>	s3 is lagged by 6 days, rising by the second
[23:07:39] <LA2>	http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=LA2-bot
[23:08:03] <LA2>	it says "OK" in green for s1,s2,s3,sql to the left
[23:08:18] <LA2>	oops, 6 days!
[23:08:47] <Mike_lifeguard>	LA2: s3 isn't replicating; see toolserver-l
[23:09:07] <Mike_lifeguard>	Also, the search you described would best be done with the advanced one
[23:09:54] <LA2>	that's tough
[23:15:04] <LA2>	I want to discuss interwiki category synchronization. What's a good place for that? #pywikipedia because interwiki is a bot operator issue? Or wikipedia-l? Or this channel? Or somewhere else?
[23:15:34] <MZMcBride>	What does "Interwiki category synchronization" mean?
[23:15:39] <MZMcBride>	wikipedia-l is useless.
[23:15:49] <MZMcBride>	This channel is for MediaWiki-related issues.
[23:16:09] <MZMcBride>	pywikipedia has a mailing list. foundation-l is good for random crap.
[23:16:22] <Majorly>	not foundation-l
[23:18:35] <LA2>	MZM, of course I thought I was on #wikimedia-tech when I asked this
[23:19:11] <LA2>	what I meant was design of Wikipedia's category tree in a fashion that makes it work better with interwiki links
[23:19:12] <MZMcBride>	:-)
[23:19:53] <MZMcBride>	Perhaps wikitech-l ?
[23:20:47] <LA2>	there are wikiproject categorization on various languages of Wikipedia, but as most wikiprojects these are dead/sleeping
[23:25:48] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) dammit.lt/wikistats stopped updating - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15177  (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[23:46:36] <freephile>	i thought i saw recently a project to provide a collection of "Help" namespace articles for installation in a local mediawiki... anyone know of such a resource?
[23:47:10] <p858snake>	there was a discussion about it but afaik it hasn't gone anywhere
[23:51:10] <OverlordQ>	there's steps on MW to get them
[23:54:42] <mike_jh>	Does anyone have any cool suggestions for using Kerberos with MediaWiki?
[23:55:21] <mike_jh>	I use the HTTP_AUTH plugin atm and if I use my Kerberos password via mod_auth_kerb it works quite happily
[23:55:58] <mike_jh>	But if you use a Kerberos ticket, PHP doesn't populate $_SERVER[PHP_AUTH_USER] and it all goes pear shaped