[00:11:49] 03(mod) Namespace Request for pl.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16926 +shell (10innocentkiller) [00:14:16] 03(NEW) Misaligned radio buttons on page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16928 normal; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (mikelifeguard) [00:14:43] 03(mod) Misaligned radio buttons on page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16928 (10mikelifeguard) [00:14:57] 03(mod) Misaligned radio buttons on page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16928 (10mikelifeguard) [00:15:00] 03(mod) Diffs silently fail when $wgExternalDiffEngine is set to ' wikidiff2' but extension is not installed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16925 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:18:03] 03(NEW) COUNT( DISTINCT cc_id) needs AS clause - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16929 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (danny.b) [00:25:18] 03(NEW) Link non-zero values in Comments column to #code-comments section of revision page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16930 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (danny.b) [00:27:09] 03(mod) COUNT( DISTINCT cc_id) needs AS clause - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16929 (10JSchulz_4587) [00:28:24] *werdnum waves from Aspen. [00:28:38] 03(ASSIGNED) Table sorting broken by colspan/rowspan - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8028 +comment (10tcncv_nospam) [00:29:27] 03aaron * r45535 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Don't count self-reverts [00:33:16] 03(mod) COUNT( DISTINCT cc_id) needs AS clause - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16929 (10danny.b) [00:35:13] 03(mod) COUNT( DISTINCT cc_id) needs AS clause - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16929 (10JSchulz_4587) [00:35:20] 03(mod) Misaligned radio buttons on page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16928 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [00:35:44] 03danny_b * r45536 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeStatusListView.php: [00:35:44] * localized status names [00:35:44] * added headline to describe which part of Code Review we are in [00:36:04] 03(mod) Bad alignment on history and contribs with long edit summaries and " justify paragraphs" on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16928 summary (10mikelifeguard) [00:40:12] 03(NEW) Subpages ending with slashes (no parameter given) should behave like those without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16931 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (danny.b) [00:42:25] AaronSchulz: whitespace killing may help but i am not sure how would it react to no space after disctinct [00:42:59] or maybe just do simple " " -> "_" replace while writing the class name [00:43:12] that should be enough for now [00:43:34] however somewhen in future the as clause would be nicer [00:44:14] if you'll play with that, consider also prefixing the classes with mwx- [00:47:08] 03(mod) Bad alignment on history and contribs with long edit summaries and " justify paragraphs" on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16928 (10danny.b) [00:47:09] 03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 (10danny.b) [00:51:12] 03dale * r45537 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/ (5 files in 4 dirs): basic support for inline searches in sequences [01:00:09] 03danny_b * r45538 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevisionView.php: * + "jump to comments link" if there are any, so one doesn't have to scroll so much [01:12:25] 03(mod) Subpages ending with slashes (no parameter given) should behave like those without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16931 (10danny.b) [01:18:57] 03(NEW) Better fallback for Special:Code/MediaWiki/comments/... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16932 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (danny.b) [01:22:55] I just ran the install scripts [01:22:59] it still says "Copyright © 2001-2008" [01:24:56] oh noes [01:25:16] hello Simetrical [01:25:30] hello werdnum [01:25:32] one of you two care to fi that [01:25:35] fix* [01:25:43] fix what? [01:26:00] Silly copyright dates. [01:27:39] It should be 2003-2009,right? [01:27:53] 2001-2009 [01:28:29] there's bunch of them, i've just started to replace [01:28:40] yksinaisyyteni, I thought MW dated to 2003. [01:28:55] i thought it was derived from the earlier code [01:29:14] Dunno. [01:29:21] Yeah, it says 2001. [01:29:24] 03simetrical * r45539 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php index.php): Increment years [01:29:28] *Simetrical Ctrl-X to increment number [01:29:41] TimStarling knows about MediaWiki history. [01:29:50] ctrl-x is easier to type than r9? [01:30:34] No. [01:30:37] But it's cooler. [01:30:37] Lee's phase3 rewrite was started in 2002 [01:30:51] but it's said that a lot of it was stolen from Magnus's code which started in 2001 [01:31:00] Oddly, my documentation says that Ctrl-A is increase, Ctrl-X is decrease, but it worked the opposite when I tried it. [01:31:01] Oh well. [01:31:19] that's why we date it from 2001 [01:31:31] Lee says he doesn't like PHP :( [01:31:35] don't know if there's anything left of magnus's code [01:31:43] (when I asked why he stopped) [01:31:45] Random Unix question: what does hostname (as in the output of "hostname") do? Other than being used in command prompts and maybe some file names and so on? [01:31:59] AaronSchulz, well, neither does practically any other MediaWiki dev, that's no excuse. [01:32:14] *AaronSchulz waves a little PHP flag [01:32:38] Simetrical: it's used on NFS to identify systems in filenames. it's used by MTAs to determine their own name. [01:32:43] with polkadots [01:32:50] Ew, PHP [01:32:52] Simetrical: it's useful to be able to find out what system you're logged into [01:33:00] PHP <3 :3 [01:33:06] So in particular, would it cause trouble if you had two machines with the same hostname on the same network? [01:33:24] Simetrical: not at the IP level, but you might notice some odd behaviour, and it would be very confusing [01:33:30] Simetrical: mDNS would break [01:33:34] Okay, thanks. [01:33:38] If you like PHP, you haven't used it enough. [01:33:45] hmph [01:33:50] it's like that joke [01:34:03] what would happen if you got two identical systems, except with different IP addresses [01:34:29] in each /etc/hosts, set localhost to be an alias to the other server [01:34:39] then start them up simultaneously [01:34:44] that's a joke? [01:34:52] LOL [01:35:07] AaronSchulz laughed, it must be. [01:35:07] it's a joke for a certain kind of humorless hacker [01:35:35] It's an interesting question. [01:35:36] werdnum: to be fair, I laughed at river's comment [01:35:42] I expect they'd break very fast. [01:35:49] Why? [01:36:09] Things would try to do stuff on localhost expecting it to be . . . local. [01:39:28] maybe /dev/random would have to be synchronised as well [01:40:06] Whoops. [01:41:09] 03(mod) Table sorting broken by colspan/rowspan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8028 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [01:44:50] 03danny_b * r45540 10/trunk/phase3/config/index.php: * 2008 -> 2009 [01:45:04] Have there ever been serious discussions about switching from PHP to something else? [01:46:35] Not really, the code is already written in PHP [01:46:45] battling PHP on a daily basis is easier than one big fat ugly switch to perl. [01:48:11] Marybelle: make a fork ;-) [01:48:41] Heh. [02:19:33] <^demon> If you wanted to remove redlinks from page output, what hook would probably be best? [02:20:27] TimStarling: when i use [[file:foo.jpg|link=media:bar.ogg]] it takes me to [[file:bar.ogg]] instead of playing that file.is that on purpose and if yes, why? [02:22:40] and that File:bar.ogg page says that there's no such file,you can upload one, but that file exists [02:35:23] 03(NEW) Media: links mishandled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16933 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (danny.b) [02:43:30] 03(mod) Send a diff in email on page changes in addition to URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4323 (10greg) [02:47:58] 03(mod) Send a diff in email on page changes in addition to URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4323 +comment (10danny.b) [02:48:37] 03demon * r45541 10/trunk/extensions/RemoveRedlinks/ (. RemoveRedlinks.php): Quick and dirty little extension to remove all redlinks from page output. Returns the raw link text if the page doesn't exist. [04:44:50] 03(NEW) Closed wikis are not longer marked as closed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16934 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: SiteMatrix; (raimond.spekking) [04:47:13] 03raymond * r45542 10/trunk/extensions/SiteMatrix/SiteMatrix_body.php: (log message trimmed) [04:47:13] * Add a FIXME to sitematrix::isclosed() [04:47:13] # FIXME: Function does not work any longer: [04:47:13] # 2008-01-09 04:08 Tim: migrated all locked wikis from $wgReadOnly(File) to permissions-based locking, [04:47:13] # so that stewards can edit the alternate project links, and so that various MediaWiki components don't break on page view [04:47:16] # From http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php: [04:47:18] # 'wgReadOnlyFile' => array( [05:11:45] 03raymond * r45543 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (6 files): Remove redundant messages as the translation does not differ from original. [05:16:56] So... any brilliant ideas as to ways to deal with a troll with a proxy? [05:18:01] block, revert, ignore [05:18:36] It's an extremely persistent troll. With a seemingly endless cache of shock site images. [05:19:07] <|X|> Yeah, keep block, revert, ignoring [05:19:13] I disabled image uploading for now but. [05:19:29] There's really not some magical proxy-defying strategy for blocking this turd? [05:19:54] <|X|> You could try blocking XFF headers [05:22:08] check if the IPs are tor, TorBlock is an extension to, oddly enough, Block Tor [05:25:23] and abusefilter [05:25:27] oh that thing is awesome [05:25:31] still in testing tho [05:26:12] I have never hated a troll as much as I hate this one. The general story: "The sysop is a girl? I'MMA GET HER." Cue disgusting imagery. [05:26:41] I'm reading up on this Tor business that I'm not nearly familiar enough with... [05:31:24] have a list of the blocked IPs? [05:32:39] I've got one easily at hand. Broken DNS, points to a French proxy. [05:32:45] slvrwhispr: that's disgusting alright [05:33:14] Most trolls go away. This one is bragging that he's going to get me to shut down my site. [05:34:59] RBI [05:35:21] or I should say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RBI [05:36:32] Believe me... I have been. The only acknowledgment he's gotten is that image uploading is disabled because he'd been overwriting images with shock site pics. [05:36:48] you can fix that by disabling image overwrite [05:36:52] (reupload) [05:37:15] I did that too. But he was also planting new pics in random articles. [05:38:44] could restrict upload to autoconfirmed, and require a time and edit limit for autoconfirmation [05:38:45] try the ConfirmAccount extension [05:38:55] like, 30 days, 100 edits [05:39:22] mm, yeh, confirmaccount [05:39:26] Hm. I like that idea. [05:39:58] E) all of the above ;) [05:40:09] Oh, believe me. I'mma lay it on thick. [05:40:44] I've got about a dozen tabs open now... start going through and seeing what makes sense for my site. [05:41:45] It's a fan-created wiki for a much larger website; I never imagined it would attract trolls like this. I underestimated stupidity on the internet. [05:42:42] depends on the larger website... and the dramam level... myspace, livejournal, 4chan... [05:42:46] ^drama [05:42:52] Red vs. Blue... [05:44:01] It wasn't my project to begin with. A buddy started it but didn't know anything about building websites. [05:44:11] I know only slightly more than that but work on a pretty steep curve. [05:46:52] slvrwhispr: just read through the group permissions stuff [05:47:25] I am. I need to get off my ass and upgrade (I think I'm still running 1.6) because the ISP my buddy signed up with was in the PHP stone age when I installed. [05:47:44] I've been avoiding it because I've had a backup fail before but I'm out of excuses now. [05:47:49] 1.6 O_O [05:48:00] ya, there are a bunch of security updates you are going to want [05:48:17] 03yaron * r45544 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/SpecialReplaceText.php: Some code improvements per Aaron Schulz's code review [05:48:23] I know. I know. They were running PHP 4.x and I didn't have a choice. [05:48:49] 03yaron * r45545 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ (README ReplaceText.php): New version, 0.3.1 [05:49:02] It was supposed to be a fun little pet project. Now the server goes down and I have 50 people going WHERE'S MY WIKI PAGE [05:55:35] slvrwhispr: success is often more fun then failure [05:56:31] Yes. But I'll openly admit I don't know my elbow from my earlobe when it comes to getting into the nitty gritty of website maintenance. [05:56:42] I taught myself HTML when frames were the epitome of cutting edge. [05:56:49] And haven't really learned a lot since. [05:57:13] But my dear troll friend is apparently forcing me to become a quick study... [05:59:23] slvrwhispr: Tor -- install my TorBlock extension. [05:59:29] It's what we use on Wikimedia. [06:00:08] If the troll is doing pattern vandalism, you might also be interested in my AbuseFilter extension, which I'm currently working on gettng ready to deploy on Wikimedia. [06:00:51] It's not pattern... beyond uploading disgusting images and clicking random page to find somewhere to stick them. [06:01:20] Well, you might want to block new users from uploading :) [06:01:25] btw, TorBlock requires 1.12 or something [06:01:32] whatever was the highest version when I wrote it. [06:01:47] Yeah yeah. Upgrading is first on the to-do list. And then it's gonna be extension city. [06:03:56] I don't think this kid is using Tor but if he is I will laugh. Because he would be so pissed... lol. [06:04:31] Okay. I've definitely got enough to keep me busy for a while. Thanks, guys. You're champs. [06:06:04] she went away [06:06:09] I had plenty of fun more suggestions. [06:09:16] werdnum: [[Special:LockDB]]? [06:09:20] does that still exist? [06:10:16] abuse filter rule: USER_AGE < 14400 & ACTION = 'upload' [06:10:17] :) [06:10:35] well that sort of would be mean [06:11:16] meh [06:11:17] fun fun fun [06:21:12] if they had a forum they could use for the user pemissions >.> that owuld be perfect [06:21:18] *would [06:32:05] hey ^demon [06:32:10] *werdnum duly inserts demon. [06:32:25] caret demon :[ [06:33:16] circumflex! [06:33:17] <^demon> :) [06:33:19] *^demon waves [06:33:27] or the start of a string [06:33:39] *werdnum gives ^demon a caret. [06:33:44] nom nomnom [06:35:23] <^demon> Most unhelpful error {-\ [06:35:28] <^demon> *:-\ [06:36:06] <^demon> Http::request: POST http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/2121?history=1 [06:36:06] <^demon> Http::request: HTTP return code 0 [06:36:06] <^demon> Http::request: CURL error code 26: read function returned funny value [06:36:37] that's hillarious [06:36:51] <^demon> Getting that when trying to do interwiki imports. [06:37:05] ^demon, if only it would make a bicycle horn noise and spray you with silly string [06:37:19] <^demon> And the curl manual isn't helpful either...CURLE_READ_ERROR (26) There was a problem reading a local file or an error returned by the read callback. [06:37:54] Funny values should be funny. :) [06:38:05] <^demon> It's not HTTP timeouts. I have max_execution_time and my http timeouts set sky-high to check. [06:48:37] <^demon> This makes no sense. It works on my localhost (can import from enwiki, only 17 revisions, so it's not big). But on my remote testwiki, it fails. [06:49:35] ^demon, are you running different OSs on each? [06:50:08] (I know the Win32 version of PHP has some warts in various places) [06:50:17] <^demon> Win32 is doing ok :) [06:50:20] <^demon> CentOS is broken. [06:51:10] 03tstarling * r45546 10/branches/REL1_14/: Branching MediaWiki 1.14 from r45489 [06:51:20] hurrah [06:51:47] We should just drop the 1. :) [06:51:55] Like Emacs did [06:52:06] 03tstarling * r45547 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/: Branching MediaWiki 1.14 from r45489 [06:52:12] krimpet: but then what will we call version 2 [06:52:45] Prodego, there will never, ever be a 2.0 at this rate [06:52:54] of course not. [06:53:04] We should have an esoteric version system [06:53:08] So drop the 1. :) [06:53:43] 03tstarling * r45548 10/branches/REL1_14/extensions/: Branching MediaWiki 1.14 from r45489 [06:54:10] werdnum: you mean like the one for tex? [06:54:18] TimStarling: yeah ) [06:54:20] :)* [06:54:24] Well, unless that ground-up re-engineering in LOLCODE becomes 2.0. [06:54:42] dropping the major version number isn't uncommon; freebsd and solaris both did that [06:54:53] and mediawiki 13.1 sounds nice [06:55:28] Knuth is certainly ambitious, saying that once he dies, version pi will freeze all bugs as features. :) [06:55:35] as long as we have that 1 [06:56:01] keep it but make it non-numeric, more of a trademark [06:56:11] <^demon> I got it :D [06:56:21] Splarka: you mean codenames, like windows? [06:56:25] 03demon * r45549 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: (log message trimmed) [06:56:25] Fix odd edge case for POST Http::request()'s. I incidentally found this while [06:56:25] working with Special:Import. For some reason that I can't 100% nail down--works [06:56:25] fine on Win32, fails on CentOS--cURL seems to want CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS set to at [06:56:25] least an empty string, if not values. Using a workaround I found, we'll set it [06:56:27] to an empty string if we're making a POST. Since we explicitly allow setting of [06:56:29] arbitrary curlopts later, users can still override the empty string if they in [06:56:41] Tim: I mean make it a unicode symbol that looks like 1 [06:56:43] 1 I L i l | ı Ł ł Ɩ Ɨ ƚ ǀ ɨ ɩ ɫ ɭ Ι ι І і Ӏ Ꭵ Ꮮ � [06:56:45] *werdnum still votes for MediaWiki version 44.732538549269 [06:56:54] MediaWiki Millenium Edition� [06:57:11] MediaWiki 2009.1 [06:57:23] MediaWiki PENIS [06:58:29] or we could be like hp-ux and just make the numbers up (11.0, 11.11, 11.22, 11.23, 11.31) [06:58:45] We could start using prime numbers. [06:59:05] go straight from v13 to v17 [06:59:21] happy primes [06:59:32] werdnum, legally shaky, since we'll eventually get into the illegal primes... [06:59:49] <^demon> I like the primes idea :) [07:00:00] *werdnum stabs krimpet [07:00:01] 03(mod) All revisions of talk page get patrolled automatically on sighter's/sysop' s edit, instead each explicitly - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16914 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [07:01:10] We could use Unicode dingbats... ☃, ☻, ☭, etc. [07:01:36] Fibbonacci sequence? [07:01:37] *krimpet can't wait for the alpha of MediaWiki ☭. [07:01:53] MediaWiki 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, ... [07:03:18] first digit: non-primes and non-composites (will always be 1), dot, second digit: perfect numbers, dot, third digit: alternating happy primes and pi in base 9 [07:09:11] 03tstarling * r45550 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/ (HISTORY RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php): Updates for 1.14rc1. Undated at present. [07:13:43] 03(NEW) Diff highlighting wrong spaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16935 minor; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (coeur) [07:22:11] 03siebrand * r45551 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/languages/messages/ (38 files): [07:22:11] * Update languages/messages/* to r45543 with the exception of English (already has update for password expiry from r45503) [07:22:11] * Revert Hebrew to r45492 to remove update for r45503. [07:24:11] 03tstarling * r45552 10/trunk/phase3/ (HISTORY RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php): Updates for the new 1.15 branch. All changes after the branch point will go to 1.15 RELEASE-NOTES for now, some may be backported. [07:29:53] 03demon * r45553 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: Backport Http fix from r45549 to 1.14 branch. [07:31:54] 03tstarling * r45554 10/branches/REL1_14/extensions/Cite/ (Cite.i18n.php Cite_body.php citeParserTests.txt): Backport of r45499 [07:35:15] ^demon: it's unreviewed isn't it? [07:38:19] <^demon> Yes. [07:38:24] <^demon> Want me to revert, pending? [07:38:36] no, I'll review it now [07:38:42] <^demon> Alright, thanks. [07:39:32] what version of curl is it, where the problem occurs? [07:40:40] what does curl_version() return? [07:41:10] *werdnum stumbles to bed. [07:41:17] Timezones have kept me awwake for 21 hours. [07:42:18] <^demon> on my CentOS machine, v7.19.2 [07:42:28] <^demon> (the one that failed w/o postopts) [07:43:19] <^demon> And my win32 machien is 7.16.0 [07:46:14] What tag can I add to a page that will create a list of all available pages on that wiki? [07:46:39] all available pages? as in all created articles? [07:46:56] Special:AllPages ? [07:46:59] Is that transcludable? [07:47:06] Marybelle: it is [07:47:16] but only one namespace at a time, and limited in reporting length [07:47:24] Yes, all created pages...I'll try it, thank you [07:47:52] if there are too many it turns into a sublist [07:48:29] Do I need to put a symbol of some kind before that? [07:49:30] {{Special:Allpages}} [07:50:27] Ah, gotcha...thank you Splarka [07:53:05] ^demon: "Optionally, you can provide data to POST using the CURLOPT_READFUNCTION and CURLOPT_READDATA options but then you must make sure to not set CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS to anything but NULL." [07:53:25] http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/curl_easy_setopt.html [07:53:38] 04(REOPENED) Prettify permalinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16659 +comment (10public) [07:54:28] so if an Http::post() caller uses CURLOPT_READFUNCTION or CURLOPT_INFILE, it will screw up with the code you committed [07:55:58] <^demon> What if we set it to null, instead of '', then it's still a safe fallback. [07:56:16] it'll probably recover the error you saw originally [07:56:59] <^demon> :-\ [07:57:09] feel free to test it, but I think the best thing to do is to check if CURLOPT_READFUNCTION or CURLOPT_INFILE are present, and if they are, don't set CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS [07:57:37] otherwise, set it to an empty string [08:03:04] <^demon> How would this do? [08:03:05] <^demon> http://pastey.net/105798 [08:04:52] 03tstarling * r45555 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialDeletedContributions.php: USE INDEX is the option name, it's converted to MySQL-specific FORCE INDEX by the Database class. [08:05:13] what's the null for? [08:05:54] <^demon> I guess you can leave that off. [08:05:58] NULL in my quote is a C NULL, not PHP null [08:06:11] they might be the same, but you can't really tell without testing [08:06:22] the PHP curl extension might convert it to a string [08:07:18] you should test it with eval.php with CURLOPT_READFUNCTION [08:07:29] just to make sure it works [08:07:49] should only take 5 minutes [08:09:24] 03(NEW) No space anymore between icon and text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16936 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [08:24:36] <^demon> Setting CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS to null or '' sets it to a PHP null. [08:27:24] so there's no problem with the original code? [08:28:26] <^demon> Shouldn't be. If there is, it's even more of an edge case than my original problem. [08:29:14] good night everyone [08:29:33] ok, that's good [08:29:51] thanks for checking [08:31:55] <^demon> No problem. [08:32:04] <^demon> And it's bedtime for me as well....3:30am now. [08:44:27] why can't there be a single abbreviation for PostgreSQL? [08:45:16] People are lazy. [08:45:19] moin [08:45:52] the init.d file is postgresql-8.3, the admin user is postgres, the command line client is called psql [08:46:15] the data directory is /var/lib/postgresql [08:48:24] and the system databases and tables use a pg_ prefix [08:49:09] 1187 : brion 39373 // Bah! [08:49:14] heh [08:50:18] When Linker.php is unhappy, everybody's unhappy. [08:51:22] *Splarka wonders if http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=39373 is related to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Multiple_section_links_in_edit_summaries [08:51:45] not much help with the bug report of 'It used to be possible....' [08:53:06] I remember when that was possible. [08:53:10] It was a nice feature. [08:53:32] was it about 4 months ago it died? [08:54:33] I have no idea. [08:54:58] *Splarka links to that rev and has a sammich [09:17:21] Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 83886080 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2109441 bytes) in /home/yourwiki/htdocs/html/w/includes/OutputPage.php on line 950 [09:17:30] Im trying to open special:allmessages [09:17:32] any ideas? [09:18:58] Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 83886080 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2109441 bytes) in /home/yourwiki/htdocs/html/w/includes/OutputPage.php on line 950 [09:19:00] Im trying to open special:allmessages [09:19:02] any ideas? [09:21:26] 03(mod) wfWikiID(), bad design - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15823 +comment (10tstarling) [09:22:31] 03(mod) Can't install 1.14 with Postgres 8.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16256 +comment (10tstarling) [09:25:19] Prom_cat: file a bug report titled "excessive memory usage in Special:Allmessages" [09:27:34] MW + SQLite is quite fast [09:27:51] 60-80ms per page view with no memcached [09:37:49] 03mkroetzsch * r45556 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (includes/SMW_DV_String.php skins/SMW_custom.css): [09:37:49] overhauled encoding/escaping for string types (including display for Type:Code) to handle markup more acurately, escaping done only when required by output [09:37:49] mode [09:46:39] 03oggk * r45557 10/trunk/cortado/src/com/fluendo/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [09:46:39] only create the overlay when needed [09:46:39] make some very long names shorter [09:47:03] 03(NEW) Windows PHP 5.2. 6 precompiled binaries and Postgresql numeric version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16937 major; normal; MediaWiki: API; (etienne.massip) [09:54:51] 03mkroetzsch * r45558 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_String.php: rather use smw prefix on CSS classes to prevent clashes [09:55:19] 03mkroetzsch * r45559 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/skins/SMW_custom.css: Rather use smw prefix on class names to prevent clashes [10:00:33] 03(mod) Windows PHP 5.2. 6 precompiled binaries and Postgresql numeric version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16937 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [10:13:46] 03ialex * r45560 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ (ReplaceText.i18n.php ReplaceText.php): Added replactetext right to $wgAvailableRights and add corresponding message [10:15:47] *Saqib Now talking in #MediaWiki [10:18:51] I was disconnected. [10:20:24] How is it possible to remove Toolbox from Sidebar, I'm using Modern skin. [10:21:29] you need to hack skins/Modern.php [10:21:49] or hide it with CSS [10:22:06] ialex: Oh Hi :), How are you doing today? [10:23:32] ialex: I've open Modern.php file, please guide me [10:23:47] Saqib1: which version? [10:24:27] I'm using latest version of MediaWiki [10:24:37] 1.13.3 [10:25:21] Saqib1: comment out line 173 [10:25:46] and then remove *TOOLBOX from MediaWiki:Sidebar [10:26:57] ialex: On line 173, I can see this: if ( !isset( $sidebar['TOOLBOX'] ) ) $sidebar['TOOLBOX'] = true; [10:27:06] Saqib1: yes [10:28:01] ialex: I'm going to remove line 173, Is it OK? [10:28:06] yes [10:28:47] ialex: Yeah, Thanks [10:30:06] ialex: Is it possible to add logo on top and change the location of Page heading from top right to text area [10:30:37] oh sorry, top left to text area [10:30:57] Saqib: yeah.. use Monobook.. ;) [10:31:42] Tubarao: I don' want to use Monobook, [10:32:03] I get a 404 error for some specific pages on my wiki. Could this be mediawiki related? [10:32:23] Taldor: Tell me which pages? [10:33:02] http://www.radakan.org/wiki/Category:tools <- doesn't work | works -> http://www.radakan.org/wiki/Category:toolsk [10:35:12] Taldor: Can't help [10:35:24] Its upto me, sorry :) [10:35:29] saqib: ok, np [10:36:03] Taldor: Can you help me Short URL? [10:37:03] Taldor: My main page is located at: http://www.tayyeb.org/mediawiki-1.13.3/index.php?title=Main_Page and I want to move it at http://www.tayyeb.org/Main_Page , [10:37:58] How would I go about adding content to the sidebar? [10:38:14] !sidebar [10:38:14] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [10:38:44] Saqib1: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL ? [10:39:00] navap: If you want to remove Toolbox, you can easily do it with editing monobook.php [10:39:35] Taldor: Thanks, you know something about skins editing? [10:39:59] Saqib1: very little [10:40:30] Well I've just taken modern.php and tweaked it around a bit to match the theme of the site I plan to use the wiki on. I can see how to manually add content to the sidebar using the skin.php file, but I hoped there was a friendlier way. [10:40:47] Taldor: I'm using Modern skin, and I wanna add a logo on top and change the Page heading from top left to text area [10:41:04] I don't understand what I should be doing with MediaWiki:Sidebar though. [10:41:08] Saqib1: sorry, I've no idea how to do that [10:41:23] navap: May I have your Wiki address please? [10:41:33] http://xabbu.net/wiki/ [10:41:57] navap: Be careful, not disclose on public area :) Be aware next time [10:42:11] don't^ [10:42:25] Will keep that in mind [10:42:53] Taldor: You've fantastic skin, you create it yourself? [10:42:56] Saqib1: A url is no secret [10:43:10] Currently I'm trying to get the personal toolbar into the sidebar, as I said, I've figured out how to do it manually in skin.php. [10:43:29] How could I avoid typo in mediawiki page, for known names, like Town and Country ? [10:43:34] Prom: Hey :) How are you baby? [10:43:48] should I use form extensions ?, how is this done on wikipedia ? [10:44:40] navap: Does you skin utilise MediaWiki:SideBar? [10:44:44] because its balnk atm [10:44:47] blank^ [10:45:03] proppy: Explain [10:45:07] I have taken the Modern.php skin and just changed colours and aesthetics. [10:45:22] I'm guessing Modern doesn't use MediaWiki:Sidebar? [10:45:26] oh duh [10:45:27] lol [10:45:30] k [10:45:37] http://xabbu.net/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar [10:45:41] In between [10:46:06] Below tool box add *personal tools [10:46:31] Prom_cat: we wan't to allow people to enter information sensitive to typo in pages, like Address, Town, see "Paris" in infobox for example http://ligamen.org/mediawiki/index.php/Resume:Proppy [10:46:32] lol I've been trying MusicBrainz_Wiki:Sidebar and Special:Sidebar [10:46:56] Prom_cat: I wonder if we should use a form extensions to allow people to choose from an existing list at the page creation, or if there is an alternative [10:46:59] navap: That explains allot [10:47:23] Prom_cat: I wonder how wikipedia handle this on regular pages [10:47:59] navep: So [10:48:22] navap: You using modern ski? [10:48:32] What do you mean by moving the page heading from top left to page area? [10:48:47] I'm using a customized modern skin, yes. [10:49:06] proppy: Ok im not to sure. [10:50:09] proppy: Allot of what wikipedia does is manual [10:50:23] navap: I am talking about Page heading. like Main Page or Help:Contents, In modern,its located on top left side [10:50:41] I want to change the location [10:51:10] Do you know your way around CSS? [10:51:19] yeah [10:51:19] Saqibl: either you edit the skin-files directly in PHP or you move it with CSS/JS (if needed) [10:51:42] Prom_cat: so there is a review protocol to maintain pages ? and ensure there is no typo ? [10:51:46] Ok, Now I've open modern.php file, Please guide me [10:52:52] Moving elements around on a page is not a simple task, I would recommend doing a little research on how CSS works. If you use Firefox, I would recommend http://getfirebug.com/. [10:53:17] proppy: This (content) aint my forte, One of the other guys will help you when they see this [10:53:22] I'm on IE [10:56:18] Prom_cat: thanks a lot [10:57:07] Prom: I'm looking to see you get free [10:57:09] Saqib1: I would recommend you to take your pagelayout as raw HTML/CSS/JS, edit it by hand to become how you want it and then going back to replicate it in the PHP/CSS/JS-files. [10:57:57] Tubarao: but how [10:58:18] 03(mod) Windows PHP 5.2. 6 precompiled binaries and Postgresql numeric version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16937 (10etienne.massip) [10:59:15] Saqib1: if you don't know how to edit a HTML-file and work with CSS/JS... then I can't help you.. too much work. :) [10:59:39] I know about HTML [11:00:12] I'm using Adobe Dreamweaver to work with HTML :) [11:01:35] Saqib1: then do your layout in this, go into the HTML sourcecode afterwards, then look in the Modern.php file starting at line 66 and you should be able to recognize some parts.. [11:02:46] yeah Tubarao [11:03:51] I can see this : <?php $this->text('pagetitle') ?> [11:03:53] 03(NEW) request for activation of import functionnality - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16938 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (antoinedelarue) [11:05:00] Saqib1: yeah.. and that would be in the -section... you know? [11:05:02] 03(mod) request for activation of import functionnality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16938 +shell (10raimond.spekking) [11:05:16] yes [11:06:30] Saqib1: so.. you understand the layout now? [11:06:53] well, Dreamweaver is not displaying design [11:07:16] Can you do it ? [11:07:36] Saqib1: nope.. busy with my own job.. [11:07:45] oh [11:07:52] Tubarao: One thing I want to know [11:08:11] mm? [11:09:03] I realised that on private Wiki sites, IP address Talk for this IP is appearing but we can not see it over Wikimedia's projects [11:09:36] Why it is different? [11:09:42] Wikimedia uses an agressive squid cache [11:09:54] that means, for a given URL, the page is the same for all anonymous viewers [11:10:15] (anon users have no preferences, and to view another lang they have to change url with &uselang) [11:10:39] putting a "User_talk:1.2.3.4" link in the skin would break cache [11:10:59] although they could use Special:MyTalk I suppose, but that wouldn't show 'visited' [11:11:05] I was d/c [11:11:19] also, IPs are very often shared, from schools, libraries, universities, etc, so the talk page for an IP won't always be for that person [11:11:42] see the log for what you missed: toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20090108.txt [11:11:42] yeah, [11:11:57] what I missed [11:12:06] toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20090108.txt [11:12:36] Splarka: What I missed? [11:22:07] Could someone briefly explain what the code at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar#MediaWiki_1.13.2 does? [11:23:27] In the skin.php file at the end there are the functions for search/toolbox/languages, but even with languages specified in the MediaWiki:Sidebar entry it doesn't show up. [11:23:59] I also can't seem to add new sections using the sidebar entry, I can only add links to the first section. [11:25:54] *Splarka blinks [11:26:38] navap: do you need such raw access to modify the sidebar? [11:27:00] I mean, do you need to be able to control the HTML to such a degree? [11:27:18] What are my other options? [11:27:20] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar?useskin=modern <-- usually one just edits that interface message (no PHP editing) to rearrage it [11:27:55] But thats not working for me. [11:27:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar?action=edit&useskin=modern <-- the source [11:28:11] what content language do you have set? english? [11:28:14] sometimes there are cache issues [11:28:27] English, default settings for cache. [11:28:45] try MediaWiki:Sidebar?action=purge and MediaWiki:Sidebar/en?action=purge , sometimes it helps (oddly, it shouldn't) [11:30:33] Still can't add new sections. [11:30:57] Adding links to the navigation section work though. [11:30:57] *Saqib|Away is Back [11:31:30] Splarka: My templates are not working [11:35:08] VoA [11:36:24] I've tried other skins, in case I accidently edited something I shouldn't have in modern.php, still can't get MediaWiki:Sidebar to work properly. [11:37:17] 03ialex * r45561 10/trunk/extensions/NewUserMessage/NewUserMessage.class.php: Fix for r45527: put $talk def back at top since it's already used in the next line [11:37:28] navap: hmm, have you tried putting anything in these new sections? [11:37:53] like: [11:37:55] *test [11:37:59] **test|test [11:38:06] Yes, they don't appear. [11:38:31] only the defaults like *SEARCH *TOOLBOX *PERSONAL TOOLS *LANGUAGES just need a header (one asterisk) [11:39:07] heh [11:39:13] I'm sorry I've been up all night hacking away at this. I only added *test, I didn't add a link inside it...adding the second level made it work. [11:39:22] I just saw you do that [11:39:31] :) [11:40:03] Thanks god :) [11:40:12] navap: You do it :) [11:43:23] navap: I have remove my Sidebar [11:45:21] lol [11:52:46] meow [11:52:59] hi [11:54:45] I installed the Extension:MyBlog and it works properly. The only thing i'm not able to do, yet, is to show the latest N blog titles into the Main_page. I browsed the Talk page of the extension and i'm looking for an extension ad-hoc which allow me to do the work. Though i didn't found nothing useful, yet. Does anyone know a way to do such things? Can you point me to the right URI? THX in advance. [11:55:39] is there a sainity check i can run on my media wiki install? [11:57:08] Which nickname is best to use for owners of a wiki site? Administrator , Admin, Sysop or something else? [11:57:56] Saqib: what should be the difference? [11:58:09] what ever you want, names mean nothing thesedats [11:58:10] Saqib: Personal preference. [11:58:11] *these days [11:59:01] but which one is common? [12:01:13] but which one is common? [12:01:18] i doubt most people use anything related to those [12:04:36] hello I want to export page : i'm on it now. how to? [12:07:09] UsamaAkkad, create a list of pages (enter a category) get the list and press export? [12:07:14] !export [12:07:14] --mwbot-- To export pages from a wiki, navigate to Special:Export on the wiki, type in the names of the pages to export, and hit "export". See for an example of this form. See also: !import [12:08:19] Reedy, I'm on the page I want to export [12:08:32] no, you do it from Special:Export [12:08:37] not from the actual page [12:08:46] i heard there is something you can do form the actual page [12:25:48] On config page: what is Memcached servers? [12:25:57] and Object caching? [13:01:33] I added "pdf" to $wgFileExtensions to allow pdf upload - but mediawiki handles uploaded pdf's images (Image: XYZ.pdf) - Can I change this to "File" somehow? [13:03:36] !namespacealias [13:03:36] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "namespacealias". [13:04:08] google knows for sure ;) thanks [13:05:22] !alias [13:05:22] --mwbot-- To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [13:05:32] not that alias [13:05:34] hmm not what we wanted [13:06:00] i want to change permission of localsetting.php, please tell me [13:06:09] what permission? [13:06:24] to prevent other users on the server reading passwords and altering configuration data. [13:06:34] its not publically accessible anyway [13:07:12] Reedy: but for security purpose [13:07:40] to avoid something happen later [13:10:23] 03(mod) No space anymore between icon and text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16936 (10JSchulz_4587) [13:12:14] is it possible to protect the complete Template namespace from editing, so only sysops can do it? [13:13:24] I want to change URL of my wiki site [13:14:15] previously it was located at /local/publoc_html/Wiki12/ [13:14:36] but now I change it to /local/public_html/wiki/ [13:14:47] but no found [13:15:39] ialex: you see [13:17:53] !lockdown Kuja^ [13:17:53] --mwbot-- Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [13:18:18] ta :) [13:21:26] Can someone help me? [13:21:59] Hi, can i ask something ? [13:22:28] You just did ;) [13:23:17] i see":) [13:23:31] 03aaron * r45562 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/SpecialCode.php: (bug 16931) Subpages ending with slashes (no parameter given) should behave like those without [13:23:47] 03(FIXED) Subpages ending with slashes (no parameter given) should behave like those without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16931 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:23:50] If you have something to ask, ask in the main channel please. [13:24:07] I'm having trouble uploading Mediawiki to my site [13:24:25] When i upload it gives me a error [13:25:33] What is the error? [13:25:47] I'll try uploading again, give me a sec:) [13:28:07] hm, it just disconnect now. strange [13:28:11] I'm trying to delete toolbox from modern skin but its not removing as it was done before on my another wiki site [13:28:32] i dont know why, but i have remove line # 173 from modern.php too [13:28:40] and also purge the page too many time [13:28:43] socket write error [13:29:42] ialex: can you help me in this? [13:30:52] navap: are you ? [13:35:41] hello.... [13:35:50] can somebody help me please [14:02:15] In the footer you can view the date the file was last modified, is there a way to view who the last author was? [14:02:17] 03aaron * r45563 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (bug 2164) Add a "reset to site defaults" link to Special:Preferences [14:02:27] 03(FIXED) Add a "reset to site defaults" link to Special:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2164 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:10:58] I try to delete Toolbox from sidebar on Modern skin. I was done it before on another wiki site by removing line # 173 of /skin/modern.php=file but now its not deleting. [14:11:19] Saqib: Try commenting out line 180 instead. [14:12:20] navep: ok let me try with it. but i have already deleted line # 173 and now i gonna delete line #180. is it ok? [14:12:47] Comment out whichever line says "$this->toolbox();" [14:14:07] ok [14:14:15] it line #179 on my server :) [14:14:44] navap: done, thanks [14:14:53] Your welcome [14:14:56] *Saqib going away for 2 minutes [14:15:15] what'st eh best way to keep track of what pages a user has vistited (not edited) [14:18:38] *Saqib Now talking in #MediaWiki [14:20:33] as I discussed before that on private Wiki sites, IP address & Talk page of IP address is appearing on pages but on Wikimedia's projects, there's only Log-in tab is visible. [14:21:28] 03aaron * r45564 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Remove comment [14:21:35] 03ialex * r45565 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: fix for last commit: add message to messages.inc [14:25:51] Does anyone know this one? I'm trying to create an audit of which users access which page. Can I do this through media wiki debug logs? Maybe something in apache? [14:25:58] I don't see any extensions related to this [14:28:35] I wanna show you something, [14:28:41] antitree, MediaWiki doesn't store this info anywhere by default. You'd likely be best off using Apache logs. [14:29:21] simetrical: Thanks do you know how to correlate the information in Apache to that of mediawiki? [14:29:34] Just look at the URLs and categorize them by regex. [14:29:37] http://www.tayyeb.org/snap.jpg [14:31:30] simetrical - I'd be able to get ip = web page but not the user right? [14:32:31] ialex, navap: please take a look at snap: http://www.tayyeb.org/snap.jpg [14:33:23] Please see the snapshot, and tell me if is it possible in modern skin? [14:35:11] you peoples see the snap? [14:35:36] antitree, true, I don't see any obvious way to get the user. [14:36:36] I saw that debug logging has a way of letting us write our own debug events. Do you know how that would be possible or if it's even the right direction? [14:37:53] antitree: you check snap? [14:38:02] I don't know. If you want to hack the code, you could just stick in some fwrite()s somewhere if you like. [14:38:46] eek - that's true. Do you think I could do that on a single page like index.php or would I have to go through each include file [14:39:41] antitree: are you with me? [14:39:48] index.php is used for almost everything. You could also likely put it in some place like WebStart.php. [14:39:57] index.php might be easiest, put it somewhere in the cleanup. [14:40:10] Note that this won't track hits to a couple of other places, api.php is another entry point and there may be one or two more. [14:40:42] saqib: i'm here - idk what you're talking about [14:41:00] I forget password of my user on my private wiki site, where I can locate it on server? [14:41:51] simetrical: that might work. thanks for your help [14:42:29] Hello [14:42:57] Saqib, you can't. You can reset it, however, by using the "e-mail password reset" feature. [14:43:00] daFish: Welcome [14:43:38] I need some help with the setup of multiple MediaWikis on a normal server. [14:43:39] Simetrical: please check this snap: http://www.tayyeb.org/snap.jpg [14:43:56] daFish: No problem [14:44:18] daFish: create a specific db of mySQL for each Wiki site [14:44:47] Simetrical: Is it possible in Modern skin ? [14:44:48] I know. :) I've moved from shared hosting to a dedicated server. the databases are set up (for 3 wikis) [14:45:11] but i've got some problems with the short urls and skins [14:45:29] !rewriteproblems [14:45:29] --mwbot-- 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [14:45:55] Hi, is there any facility in mediawiki to allow selection from a list of existing articles ? when writing content ? [14:46:24] Duesentrieb: Can this be used with the skin directory symlinked to all wiki-directories? [14:46:39] For example on http://ligamen.org/mediawiki/index.php/Resume:Proppy I would like to be able able to choose Skill or Town (or Country) from one [14:46:46] which are already be entered [14:47:02] to prevent typo, and ease data correlation [14:47:09] daFish: yes, if your web-server is configured to follow symlinks. but symlinking isn't really needed. you can run several wikis of the same codebase. [14:47:15] !wikifamily | daFish [14:47:15] --mwbot-- daFish: To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: and . [14:47:25] 03(mod) Protect Functionality for importImage.php Maintenance Script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11857 (10axelseaa) [14:48:02] daFish: several options are described, including symlinks, but the best variant imho is to check wich wikis is requested inside the LocalSettings.php, and based on that, load settings for that wiki. [14:48:30] Duesentrieb: Great method. :) Thanks. I'll give this a try. [14:48:57] daFish: Good luck [14:54:51] 03(mod) Prettify permalinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16659 (10matthew.britton) [14:57:45] Can I edit the personal_urls list? [14:58:39] navap: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/PersonalUrls [14:58:40] navap: Can you make some changes in a skin? [14:59:58] !short-url [14:59:58] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "short-url". [15:00:02] !shorturl [15:00:02] --mwbot-- To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [15:00:35] !rewriteproblem [15:00:35] --mwbot-- 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [15:01:14] !botnoob | Saqib [15:01:14] --mwbot-- Saqib: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. [15:02:21] ok BOT :) [15:03:31] Okay, from what I've read using that hook will let me add custom url's to the list? What if I want to remove an already existing url? [15:04:29] I want to split the login/create account link, into two seperate links. [15:07:06] Hello guys. Does anyone know if there's a way to create regular user accounts from the Root user (bureaucrat) account? [15:07:06] this, with the regular account creation ability disabled. [15:07:06] ie, anonymous users can't create new accounts. [15:07:31] Hi, what is the process to check for typo in Categories or Town/Country name in wikipedia/mediawiki ? [15:10:51] andr3: Go to Special:UserLogin/signup on the wiki, put in a username and an email but leave the password fields blank. Click then on "by Email" The user gets a password by mail [15:11:12] I need help regarding Shorting URL's, I want to do it as http://www.domain.com/wiki/Page_Title [15:11:22] Wuzur:HI [15:11:45] Saqib1: Go to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL and read the instructions [15:12:16] I've read Manual:Short URL but still confusion [15:13:01] @Wuzur|rhn thank you. you're a life saver. :) [15:16:43] are there scaling options in the Image tag? [15:17:38] 03dale * r45566 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/example_usage/sample_playlists.php: updated example page to include xspf [15:18:56] 03huji * r45567 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Correcting the translation for IP [15:21:02] What i missed? [15:25:12] !wiki [15:25:12] --mwbot-- A wiki is a collaborative website which can be directly edited by anyone with access to it. Ward Cunningham, developer of the first wiki WikiWikiWeb, originally described it as "the simplest online database that could possibly work". Wikipedia is one of the best known wikis. [15:30:50] Where's everybody? [15:33:36] Saqib: did you resolve the moving of the heading? [15:34:03] still not :( [15:34:15] Saqib: take a look at this: http://p.defau.lt/?z9JUR5nZH8mHBI5jKI7c7w [15:34:18] http://www.tayyeb.org/snap.jpg [15:35:03] Tubarao: URL seems to be spam website :O [15:35:16] Saqib: nope.. it's a pastebin-site.. [15:35:46] Hi, what is the process to check for typo/spelling in Categories or Town/Country name in wikipedia/mediawiki ? [15:36:26] Tubarao: yeah, codes [15:36:47] Saqib: yes.. do you understand it? [15:36:54] hhmm, little bit [15:37:20] is it old modern skin? [15:37:52] it's a diff between the newest Modern-skin and a file I edited to do what you wanted (more or less).. [15:38:17] oh, let me check it [15:38:26] you see snap? [15:38:40] yes, I have seen it.. [15:38:51] but right now, it's *lunch* [15:38:56] is it same as I would like to create? [15:52:11] I was DC [15:52:13] what I missed [15:52:36] nothing [15:52:53] Tubarao:I missed something? [15:53:07] Your last message I recieved was : but right now, it's *lunch* [15:59:38] 03(NEW) Variables returning protection level - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16939 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (cenarium.sysop) [16:09:40] hey people - is there a way, as a mediawiki admin, that i can "watch" every page, so i get emailed every single time a page is updated? [16:11:06] fishsponge: just subscribe to the feed offered by recentchanges. most decent mail reders support rss/atom, so it'll be very much like mail. [16:12:04] true... i could do, but this is actually for a friend who uses various mail clients, not all of which support RSS, and he'd like them filtered in with his mail etc... [16:12:56] use some rss-to-mail gateway then [16:13:13] fishsponge, there's a setting for it. [16:13:14] you can also make mediawiki fire udp packets on every update [16:13:17] and do whatever with them [16:13:26] i think you can also hook into that, and write yourself mails [16:13:33] Simetrical: really? [16:13:39] Yes. [16:14:00] !wg UsersNotifiedOnAllChanges | fishsponge [16:14:00] --mwbot-- fishsponge: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges [16:15:12] huh, didn't know that [16:19:34] Hi, what is the process to check for typo/spelling in Categories or Town/Country name in wikipedia/mediawiki ? [16:34:47] Tubarao: Are you there? [16:35:03] mm [16:35:11] sorry, I was just got dc for a while [16:35:35] we were talking about skin, if you remember [16:35:53] yes, and i gave you a solution [16:36:13] yeah, but i was dc so if we can start once again [16:36:19] please tell me URL [16:36:25] 03(NEW) Recent change unavailable, and other special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16940 04BLOCKER; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (antoinedelarue) [16:36:42] Saqib2: http://p.defau.lt/?z9JUR5nZH8mHBI5jKI7c7w [16:36:52] ok, [16:37:09] so If i paste the code in modern.php - file [16:37:20] no. [16:37:33] then? [16:37:35] this is a diff.. showing what to remove and what to add [16:37:56] - = remove, + = add [16:38:29] well, still not get :( [16:40:05] 14(DUP) Variables returning protection level - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16939 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [16:40:06] 03(mod) Parser functions to determine protection status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9947 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [16:40:06] Saqib2: read here o understand the file: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diff#Unified_format [16:40:24] hmm [16:41:08] well, if you can do it for me ? [16:41:18] and I just update codes [16:42:11] Saqib: I don't have the time to hold your hand through this.. read the link to understand what to do.. everything is now given to you. [16:42:24] :( [16:44:31] Tubarao: Ok, [16:44:45] Tubarao: div id="mw_header">

data['displaytitle']!=""?$this->html('title'):$this->text('title') ?>

[16:44:54] I can see this on modern.php [16:46:38] what is mean by - and +? [16:47:19] why there are 2 headings? [16:49:12] Tubarao: you hearing to me? [16:52:18] 03(mod) Recent change unavailable, and other special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16940 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [16:56:42] I am running mediawiki 1.8.2 (very old!!) and was wondering which version I should update to [16:58:05] err: try using 1.13 [16:58:19] errr: May I have your Wiki url? [16:58:26] no [16:58:32] thanks [16:58:44] I never check how 1.8 works [16:58:59] no, i just want to see it and nothing [17:00:00] Tubarao: I cant do :( [17:00:09] The latest version is 1.13.3. However, 1.14.0 is likely to be released within a couple of weeks. [17:00:40] Simetrical: Is there any wiki, where I can compare these version? [17:01:00] or Is it possible to see wiki sites still using old versions? [17:01:08] Saqib, why would you want to? [17:01:17] 1.8 is ancient and no longer supported. [17:01:22] It contains known unfixed security vulnerabilities. [17:01:24] ok [17:01:42] There's no reason to use older versions unless you're still stuck with PHP 4 for some masochistic reason. [17:02:19] ok, but is there any wiki sites still using old versions just to check the differences? [17:02:35] Yes, I'm sure there are plenty. I don't know of any offhand. [17:02:50] maybe older version are easy for beginers like me to run [17:03:47] I want to protect several pages on my wiki at the same time, how's it possible? [17:07:33] I want to protect several pages on my wiki at the same time, how's it possible? [17:07:45] Saqib: please don't repeat yourself [17:07:46] !help [17:07:46] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [17:08:15] are there scaling options in the Image tag? [17:15:52] 03siebrand * r45568 10/trunk/extensions/ShowProcesslist/ShowProcesslist.i18n.php: db -> database as column header [17:16:47] HELP - I'm trying to log in to my recently created wiki and it says that it needs cookies but I have them disabled...how do i enable them? [17:18:25] Rob_La|bach: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=enable+cookies [17:20:53] funny how i did that and i get this red bar on the login screen that tells me cookies are disabled [17:21:10] hence i'm wondering if it's something in the localsettings or whatever [17:22:43] Rob_La|bach: if you are asking a question about enabling cookies in your browser, it could be handy to know which browser you are using. [17:23:01] IE [17:23:11] and which version of IE? [17:23:15] 6/7/8 [17:23:23] 7 [17:24:22] Rob_La|bach: http://www.betfred.com/help/static/cookiehelp_ie.htm [17:25:01] Rob_La|bach: you may want to reconsider the 'always' and 'ask' options. [17:27:11] come again? [17:27:22] anyone who can give me permission to learn mwbot stuff? [17:28:09] I am trying to hide Main page title [17:28:58] I have create a file MediaWiki:Commin.css and put / body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display:none; } / there but nothing happened [17:29:14] Common.css^ [17:29:22] strange...i can log in on my desktop but not laptop.. [17:29:31] Saqib2; did you change the Main page? [17:29:34] anyway..next question.. [17:29:54] you means by text area? [17:30:01] I added the extensions 'SidebarEx' PageSidebar' ... [17:30:10] siebrand: should work now [17:30:11] Saqib: no, MediaWiki:Mainpage [17:30:19] so how do I exactly go about created items on a sidebar? [17:30:20] nop [17:31:01] Ialex: I got it from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_hide_the_main_page_title.3F [17:32:32] Saqib: "I have create a file", file or wiki page? [17:33:12] Ialex: what i do now? [17:33:33] Saqib: answer my question? [17:34:47] is there an extension to create category from an input box, with a default Root category ? [17:37:01] inputbox IIRC [17:42:07] siebrand: work? :) [17:48:07] Charitwo: was afk. Checking. [17:49:07] as long as your hostname doesn't change it should work [17:50:09] !cookie | Charitwo [17:50:09] --mwbot-- Charitwo: To enable cookies for popular browsers, see http://www.google.com/cookies.html [17:50:12] works :) [17:50:22] !rar [17:50:22] --mwbot-- rar [18:05:44] 03(mod) without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 +bugday (10brion) [18:06:35] no chanserv? [18:06:50] not here... [18:07:10] not really needed [18:09:43] brion: looks like 16854 will work? [18:10:05] dunno, haven't looked at it yet, just marked it to make sure it's not dropped :) [18:10:26] can anyone help me with added sidebars? [18:22:07] 03(FIXED) Null edit to non-line-initial -delimited section adds significant whitespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9266 +comment (10mormegil) [18:24:33] 03minuteelectron * r45569 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/BabelAutoCreate.class.php: * Hack for Betawiki, for some reason comments appear inside some wfMsg outputs. [18:26:17] 03oggk * r45570 10/trunk/cortado/ (52 files in 7 dirs): [18:26:17] Revert kate support for now, it seems it breaks when used from a [18:26:17] jar file out of the tree, so i'll try to repro that and fix. [18:29:54] O:::::: When did they change it to "prev"? [18:31:06] 03(mod) Prettify permalinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16659 (10brion) [18:31:39] [21:02:23] A nice feature would being able to reply to a summary on the page in question's talk page, when viewing a diff. [18:31:39] [21:02:43] You know, next to the undo and rollback buttons (for sysops), there should be a "respond to this edit" thingie. [18:31:49] :( No one responded? [18:40:00] svip: yesterday or something? [18:42:03] Yus, Mike_lifeguard. [18:42:03] I live in GMT+1. [18:42:03] brion: can I become member of the "Coder" group on mw.org? :) [18:42:03] mw.org doesn't exist, ialex. >:| [18:42:06] You lead me into a trap! [18:42:10] No firefox cries. [18:42:15] Now* [18:42:19] *ialex stabs svip :P [18:42:35] :( And then you kill me, ialex. [18:42:46] svip: hehe :) [18:43:15] svip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Do_NOT_bite_the_developers [18:43:50] Fun! [18:44:05] ialex: But we are still waiting for brion to respond to you. [18:45:35] Hi [18:45:35] wot [18:45:57] $ whois mw.org [18:45:57] Name is reserved by Registry_Policy [18:45:58] fuckers [18:46:18] yeah, PIR requires 3+ characters i think [18:46:21] Yeah, and Xorg can have x.org [18:46:23] but they do special allocations, like X.org [18:46:33] ialex: do you promise not to review your own checkins as ok, and generally do no harm? :) [18:46:48] brion: yes [18:47:06] *ialex will mark them as "differed" :P [18:47:22] Is there someone able to give me some time ? [18:47:23] brion: What have you set loose!? [18:47:32] *svip hands Nuks some time. [18:47:34] Here you go. [18:47:41] Here the point [18:47:46] Thanks first [18:48:16] I own my little wiki and someone found good to vandalism some pages [18:48:28] Protect it. [18:48:39] But i'm a bit embarassed because every little bad thing he did... got restaured [18:48:45] By MY account (admin) [18:48:52] "restaured"? [18:48:54] And i didnt do it ;o [18:48:56] You mean restored? [18:49:03] !spam | Nuks [18:49:03] --mwbot-- Nuks: For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [18:49:05] Oh yes, sorry, i'm not english native speaker :) [18:49:12] Neither am I, Nuks. [18:50:03] Well hm, here the real question [18:50:09] is there a way to see last ip used by a user ? [18:50:35] !e CheckUser | Nuks [18:50:35] --mwbot-- Nuks: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser [18:51:00] Ah with Extension, but it'll log things after i install it... [18:51:04] Well thanks anyway i'll install this ! [18:51:13] Uhm, no, Nuks. [18:51:24] 03brion * r45571 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialMovepage.php): [18:51:24] Reverted r45517 " * (bug 16921) Add a maxlength for the reason field of [18:51:24] the page move form. Changed from 'textarea' to 'text' because 'textarea' does [18:51:24] not support maxlength. Makes it consistent with all other reason fields." [18:51:24] This field is deliberately not a single-line text input field because it caused confusion when it was. [18:51:40] Nuks: It clearly says that they use data already stored. [18:51:50] Sorry i didnt click link yet :) [18:51:53] Well thanks thanks ! [18:52:59] 04(REOPENED) Comments may be cut off on page moves and page protections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16921 +comment (10brion) [18:53:42] 03(mod) The move reason field should be one line only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627 +comment (10brion) [18:57:59] 03(mod) Allow limited indirection by redirects, up to $wgMaxRedirects levels. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11644 (10brion) [18:59:28] 03(NEW) Preferences return "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags ." error, when the HTML is alright. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16941 minor; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (alvareo) [19:01:05] Hmm. [19:01:13] I don't think accepting longer comments is really a good thing. [19:01:16] People lack brevity. [19:01:29] And nobody wants a mini essay in the middle of logs. [19:02:29] 03(NEW) Add support for meta extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16942 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Configure; (siebrand) [19:05:57] 03ashley * r45572 10/trunk/extensions/regexBlock/ (regexBlock.php regexBlockCore.php): regexBlock: add regexBlock link to Special:Contributions if user has the 'regexblock' permission, just as CheckUser extension currently does [19:08:28] Marybelle, it should be possible for wikis that want it. [19:08:49] Also, there are issues with multibyte languages. For something like Hebrew, it's a limit of like 85 characters. [19:09:03] (if Hebrew is three-byte, I think it is) [19:09:38] That makes sense. [19:09:49] Though the limit should still have to be reasonable. [19:09:52] Citizendium has long edit summaries allowed. I think they can be useful. [19:10:13] Allow a range or something, but they're supposed to be _summaries_. [19:10:25] If it's really that major of a change, every page has an associated talk page. [19:10:32] You can also diff the page. [19:10:45] 04(REOPENED) The move reason field should be one line only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [19:14:03] It'll bring great spam. [19:15:11] spam spam spam [19:15:49] Well, banning external links from working in the summaries works pretty well. [19:16:23] And there are extensions that work on edit summaries. [19:18:57] siebrand: it'll be possible to hide them, when the rev_deleted stuff will be enabled... [19:19:21] Yes, but nobody wants more work. :P [19:19:28] ialex: yeah, that'll probably happen when makebot and makesysop can be disabled :) [19:19:37] siebrand: :D [19:20:09] well makesysop is not a problem [19:20:45] (to be disabled) [19:21:47] 03siebrand * r45573 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (54 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2009-01-08 19:04 UTC) [19:27:10] you guys use StubManager right? [19:27:23] nope [19:27:40] does anyone know how to edit the code for stubmanager? [19:28:46] 03siebrand * r45574 10/trunk/extensions/ (168 files in 151 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2009-01-08 19:04 UTC) [19:29:00] open it in a texteditor *hide'n'away'* [19:31:21] 03aaron * r45575 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeRepoListView.php CodeReview.i18n.php): Added status link in repo list [19:31:33] so absolutely no one can help with me extensions related to 'pagesidebar' and 'stubmanager?' [19:31:36] great [19:44:38] 03(mod) Parser functions to determine protection status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9947 (10cenarium.sysop) [19:47:15] 03(mod) Recent change unavailable, and other special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16940 (10antoinedelarue) [19:50:15] 03rotem * r45576 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he. [19:52:02] ciao [19:56:28] How can I link directly to the sidebar page from the sidebar itself? When I try MediaWiki:Sidebar|Sidebar, all I get is all of the sidebar links in that single line itself. Is there a better way to do this? [19:57:43] RickZilla: you need a mediawiki message whose *content* is "MediaWiki:Sidebar" [19:57:57] everything in MediaWiki:Sidebar is a reference to a localizable message [19:58:18] brion: That makes sense. What does that syntax look like? [20:00:08] RickZilla: MediaWiki:Sidebar-link message with "MediaWiki:Sidebar" inside [20:00:42] and then **sidebar-link|Sidebar [20:00:47] 03(mod) Comments may be cut off on page moves and page protections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16921 (10matthew.britton) [20:01:13] How do I do a message? [20:01:59] just create it, as any other page [20:02:57] Ah, so it's a separate sidebar, then? [20:03:17] not really [20:03:35] this is just how sidebar is done [20:03:49] ok...guess I'm just not getting it [20:04:20] 03rotem * r45577 10/branches/REL1_14/extensions/Cite/Cite.i18n.php: Localization update for he. [20:04:35] I can create links to any other page in that sidebar just fine...when it comes to actually linking to the sidebar edit page itself, that's when I get confused [20:04:47] brion, are you sure that editing an image is the way to avoid redirects? ;) [20:05:24] ? [20:06:12] 03rotem * r45578 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Reverting problematic localization updates. [20:06:28] your message on wikitech: [20:06:37] you could hack up MediaWiki::initializeSpecialCases() in includes/Wiki.png [20:06:39] xD [20:07:12] :P [20:07:13] .php [20:08:17] brion, so my first step, is to create a page called sidebar? [20:08:26] 03(mod) Recent change unavailable, and other special pages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16940 (10raimond.spekking) [20:10:47] RickZilla, a page called MediaWiki:Sidebar-link [20:11:06] 03(mod) Windows PHP 5.2. 6 precompiled binaries and Postgresql numeric version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16937 +postgresql (10Bryan.TongMinh) [20:11:14] Ah, ok, I'll try that, then go back and look through the previous instructions again, thanks for your help [20:15:25] brion, did your revert of my change to id handling actually mean "do not commit this again with inventing a testing framework that handles this", or did it mean "I want to svn up all these changes already and don't feel like reviewing a new version of code I already reviewed like an hour ago and reverted for being broken, so re-commit this after the svn up"? [20:15:49] Ok, created the sidebar-link page...now how do I create a sidebar out of all of that? [20:16:06] side-bar link page has all of the links I want in it now [20:16:07] 03yaron * r45579 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_Utils.inc: Removed unnecessary escaping of apostrophes in getAllPagesForCategory() [20:16:16] *sidebar-link [20:17:27] 03yaron * r45580 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: New version: 1.4.2 [20:18:38] after installing the pagesidebar extension [20:18:47] what do I have to do to actually create sidebars [20:19:02] 03(mod) Parser functions to determine protection status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9947 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [20:20:44] 03yaron * r45581 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/ (5 files): Added explicit declaration of all static functions as static [20:22:47] 03yaron * r45582 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version, 1.4.2 [20:59:52] Still working on my sidebar link...I'd like to create a link to the sidebar page from the sidebar itself, just need somebody to talk me through putting it together...thanks in advance for your help, hopefully should take <5 minutes [20:59:52] RickZilla, it doesn't work yet? [21:00:05] Still not...apparently I don't have the concept yet [21:00:07] 03ashley * r45583 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/SpecialPopulateExistingUsersProfiles.php: fix fatal error reported by an anonymous user (see http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension_talk:SocialProfile&curid=29356&diff=231995&oldid=231473) [21:00:44] I've created a page called MediaWiki:Sidebar-link [21:02:02] put MediaWiki:Sidebar into it...not sure what to do now [21:04:21] edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] [21:04:34] and then **sidebar-link|Sidebar [21:06:50] k...then what should be in the actual sidebar-link page? Right now, all I have is MediaWiki:Sidebar|Sidebar [21:07:01] Which is causing that to be one big link in the sidebar [21:07:09] Do I need brackets? [21:11:50] 03ashley * r45584 10/trunk/extensions/LookupUser/LookupUser.php: show a link to Special:LookupUser on Special:Contributions if the user has 'lookupuser' privilege [21:12:35] wonder what that doe [21:12:37] s [21:20:37] *Simetrical bothers brion some more [21:21:27] brion, did your revert of my change to id handling actually mean "do not commit this again with inventing a testing framework that handles this", or did it mean "I want to svn up all these changes already and don't feel like reviewing a new version of code I already reviewed like an hour ago and reverted for being broken, so re-commit this after the svn up"? [21:21:27] I.e., should I recommit it now, or is there actually something wrong and I shouldn't? [21:22:59] Simetrical: i'd like to have some kind of test set, whether it's pretty or not. [21:23:23] but just sort of hoping that people will try things eventually and that nothing is broken is kinda bad :) [21:49:12] Does anyone know a method to import a MoinMoin wiki into Mediawiki? [22:02:32] 03btongminh * r45585 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryBacklinks.php: Force the use of the PRIMARY key rather than the name_title in the second query. [22:02:55] navap: I'm sure you could write a quick script to do it [22:03:07] I haven't seen any pre-made scripts or whatnot to do it yet [22:05:05] Fatal error: Call to undefined method CheckUserLogPager::getDateCond() in /var/www/html/wikilivres.info/mediawiki-1.13.2/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php on line 1287 [22:05:15] http://www.wikilivres.info/wiki/Special:CheckUser/Log [22:05:22] what's the problem? [22:05:23] Well It's probably a good thing, moving each article one by one makes sure all the formatting is correct to begin with. [22:07:01] CheckUser::addLogEntry ». MySQL a renvoyé l’erreur « 1146 : Table 'wikilivres.cu_log' doesn't exist (localhost) ». [22:07:27] yannf: you upgraded CheckUser past a version that works with your installation? [22:07:42] Checking in again: I've created a page called sidebar-link, and put "MediaWiki:Sidebar" into that so that I can create a sidebar link actually on the sidebar itself...Not sure what to do next, thanks in advance for your help [22:08:41] brion, possible, hmm, how do I know which version should I upgrade/downgrade? [22:08:57] brion, I tested it on a bunch of anchors I manually cooked up. Do you want something more than that? Because that's all we normally ever test things on, except the parser. [22:08:57] yannf: you're running 1.3? use the one from the 1.3 branch [22:09:02] er [22:09:02] 1.13 [22:09:22] Simetrical: i want a standard list which can be run by a script, and can be added to, and can be run by other people [22:09:46] brion, isn't this considerably more than is required of every other feature we ever add to the software . . . ? [22:09:55] Simetrical: this is what we need to *be* doing for everything else [22:10:13] Well, so should we start doing that for everything? Why just this? [22:10:48] yes. no "just" this but i want it done because it's a particular thing which encountered regressions you didn't notice, which is a bad sign [22:10:51] and it's highly user-visible [22:11:09] whatever you're doing manually, please automate it :) [22:12:02] Well, if you're going to tell me to get a whole new regression suite working, then it has to actually be checked and people have to be made to update it. [22:12:17] anyone can help me here? since our upgrade to 1.11 or 1.12 all of our recent changes entires have gibbrish in them, DB entries are stored properly [22:12:21] for the moment, a script with an array would probably do fine [22:12:21] Because I don't want to duplicate the work of the two existing test suites we have and then have my tests ignored like those are. [22:14:12] would a link help? [22:14:22] gfgfdgd, probably. [22:14:29] http://startrek.acalltoduty.com/wiki/index.php/Special:RecentChanges [22:15:48] as I said, the entries are stored correctly in the DB [22:16:03] gfgfdgd: looks like null-padded strings. binary char() fields? [22:16:15] some kind of bad upgrade or bad original install with the then-experimental binary schema, perhaps [22:16:30] any way of fixing it? [22:16:41] fix the field types [22:18:00] seems fine here [22:18:10] matches another DB that I have, which works fine [22:18:29] Checking in again: I've created a page called sidebar-link, and put "MediaWiki:Sidebar" into that so that I can create a sidebar link actually on the sidebar itself...Not sure what to do next, thanks in advance for your help [22:18:32] the collation is stored as a latin1_bin through [22:20:35] gfgfdgd: did you upgrade mysql, say from 4.1 to 5? [22:21:26] not recently [22:22:13] hmm, some version changed the behavior of CHAR columns with binary encoding [22:22:25] what should it be then? [22:22:39] because that's the same encoding it has across all my other DBs [22:22:41] Can I please get some help with this? [22:25:02] RickZilla: * sidebar-link|sidebar-text [22:25:12] MediaWiki:Sidebar-link should contain 'MediaWiki:Sidebar' [22:25:18] MediaWiki:Sidebar-text should contain "Sidebar" [22:26:26] Brion...I didn't do the Sidebar-text part of it...I'll go check that out, thanks again for your help, I'm just about there [22:27:11] brion, my method for testing was to save a bunch of section names to a page on localhost, and try editing each of the sections to see if the redirect worked. That's not easily automated. I wouldn't know offhand how to set up a Parser object with correct and consistent options, for instance, if I were going to do it in a maintenance script style. [22:27:24] The reason there were unnoticed regressions in that commit was because I didn't think to test on any wikitext construct at all before committing, and didn't notice the stuff stripping wikitext. I don't think there's any good reason to believe that this code is any more prone to regressions than any other commit. Any regressions that do occur aren't very damaging and can be fixed quickly and *once* -- this code is very unlikely to get touc [22:27:24] hed again for a very long time, so a regression suite that we actually keep around for it specifically seems pointless. [22:29:37] any suggestions? [22:30:06] 03(NEW) Add some kind of GUI for sidebar customization that mortals can comprehend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16943 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brion) [22:30:41] Simetrical: can you at least make a file or a wiki page with your sample test cases? [22:30:54] woops, meeting time [22:31:55] brion-meeting, http://pastebin.com/m1264187d [22:32:00] Oh, bleh, it corrupted it. [22:32:27] brion: For some reason, this still isn't working, I'm starting to feel stupid here, but I'm really not....here's what I've got...in MediaWiki:Sidebar I've got Sidebar-link|Sidebar, and in MediaWiki:Sidebar-link I've got MediaWiki:Sidebar|Sidebar . That's it. What am I missing? [22:33:15] *Simetrical works out some more test cases [22:46:52] RickZilla: To edit your sidebar, visit index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar [22:47:02] 03(mod) Comments may be cut off on page moves and page protections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16921 (10church.of.emacs.ml) [22:47:38] Add links in the format, "mainpage|My Wiki", or, "http://google.com|Google" [23:00:27] ciao a tutti [23:02:55] i downgrade CU ext to REL1_13 [23:03:04] instead of trunk [23:03:15] sudo svn co -r 38539 http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/REL1_13/extensions/CheckUser [23:03:22] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_13/extensions/CheckUser/ [23:03:41] isn't this the right version for 1.13? [23:07:49] is there a way to do calculations with dates without any special hassle? [23:08:27] something like {{#expr: 01.01.1984 - 15.03.1930}} and get an answer in days/months/years [23:08:51] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time: [23:08:52] 03dale * r45586 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (9 files in 7 dirs): [23:08:52] * sequence editor playhead scrubber updates [23:08:52] * style updates for playlist embed [23:08:52] * fixed list layout results for external media search [23:11:18] I'm sorry for asking here, but I can't find an answer. I know this sounds like a silly question but would it be acceptable to copy a very small amount of wiki code from a wikipedia Template to use on a online creative commons wiki, or would that be be against the wikipedia licence? [23:15:52] scylla^ -> #wikipedia (this one is about software) [23:20:04] I'm trying to add a references, I've tried text, and text, but neither work. [23:20:22] navap: do you have at the bottom of the page? [23:20:38] I have tried both {{Reflist}} and [23:20:41] i mean [23:21:10] That doesn't work either. [23:21:17] 03mrzman * r45587 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (bug 9947) Add PROTECTIONLEVEL parser function to return the protection level for a given action (e.g. edit, move) for the current page. [23:21:39] It just shows up as-is on the page. [23:22:13] navap, that's on wikipedia? [23:22:16] navap: do you have the extension installe? [23:22:27] No, on my own MediaWiki installation. [23:22:29] you probably need extension citation [23:22:34] citate [23:22:38] cite [23:22:39] :)) [23:23:06] navap: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite [23:23:19] Ah, I was going off the wikipedia editing cheat sheet, didn't realize it wasn't part of MediaWiki. [23:23:38] 03(FIXED) Parser functions to determine protection status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9947 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [23:24:18] Isn't that an extension that might be useful as part of the core package? [23:24:55] 03(mod) Parser functions to determine protection status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9947 (10mrzmanwiki) [23:27:29] On a seperate note, why doesn't the editing help page come pre-populated with info? Thats why I'm having to look at Wikipedia's. [23:27:56] you can just export the help pages and reimport them.. [23:32:22] navap: I'm there, but it's not working for me [23:33:34] What does the page say? [23:36:13] Well, I'm on that page just fine...here's the deal, I'd like to create a link to the sidebar page, from the sidebar itself...I created the MediaWiki:Sidebar-link page, entered MediaWiki:Sidebar into it, then put the link to the Sidebar-link in the sidebar itself...and all I'm getting is one long link that contains all of the sidebar data [23:37:05] Why did you create a new page? [23:37:19] I am experience an odd spam bot. [23:37:40] That was an instruction given in here, because just linking to MediaWiki:Sidebar directly from the sidebar did the same thing [23:37:41] Just add foobar/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar | MediaWiki:Sidebar [23:38:09] So just do the full url? [23:38:25] Thats what I did, works for me. [23:39:16] I'll give it a shot, thanks a ton, I'll let you know how it goes [23:39:28] Your welcome :) [23:39:42] I was in your shoes only hours ago lol [23:42:24] interesting...worked great, thanks for the info [23:59:39] 03simetrical * r45588 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: (log message trimmed) [23:59:39] Reduce code duplication correctly this time, again [23:59:39] The test cases I thought up are at: [23:59:39] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Simetrical/Id_tests [23:59:39] All of them pass with the patch, except for some that fail on current [23:59:39] code as well: the ones involving templates, multiply-occurring section [23:59:43] headers, or numeric id's (there seems to be a weird bug with those that