[00:01:11] aspen [00:01:23] well, snowmass to be precise. [00:03:43] cool [00:03:52] I'm heading to big white for reading week [00:03:58] where's that? [00:04:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_White_Ski_Resort [00:04:26] Kelowna, BC [00:05:41] oic [00:05:44] canadia [00:07:51] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1Mikeblackdimond.jpg hawt [00:08:22] Mike_lifeguard: someone needs to photoshop in a pole [00:08:44] uhmmm... [00:12:41] Prodego: good idea. [00:12:44] I suggest tomaszf [00:12:45] 03aaron * r45622 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/RevisionReview_body.php: (bug 16896) Review log entries should be sent to RC/IRC feed [00:12:59] werdnum: can we get a poll in there too? [00:14:08] 03(FIXED) Review log entries should be sent to RC/IRC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16896 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [00:15:50] 03(mod) Review log entries should be sent to RC/IRC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16896 (10JSchulz_4587) [00:32:26] werdnum: question on Configure. I was checking out configuring NewUserMessage, I added yesterday, and I see the settings like $wgNewUserSuppressRC described as "You are not allowed to see this setting" [00:32:48] Extensions is evil and broken. [00:32:52] werdnum: I expected to be able to enable/disable them. Did I configure something incorrectly? [00:33:16] I don't really know anything about extension configuration with Configure -- you need to talk to ialex [00:33:21] werdnum: *whine* I like that goodie a lot :) [00:34:02] 03dale * r45623 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/ (10 files in 6 dirs): [00:34:02] added support for firefog to add_media_wizard [00:34:02] other fixes to add_media_wizard [00:34:02] refactoring of firefogg.js [00:34:16] It is ugly and broken :) [00:35:35] werdnum: well, for basic extension enable/disable it works a lot quicker than firing up editors and stuff, so it's not bad already. Being able to edits those settings is only going to be a bonus :) [00:38:39] werdnum: You were writing an extension to configure mediawiki online, right? [00:39:13] 03(mod) Special:Extensions doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16828 +comment (10siebrand) [00:39:48] chuck: I finished the bit that we're gonna use on Wikimedia, yeah. [00:39:50] which reminds me [00:40:09] brion: are we planning on broadening the Configure trial? [00:40:26] is that code anywhere yet, or should I use the Extension:Configure shown at mediawiki.org/wiki/extension:configure [00:42:04] probably in a bit :D [00:42:04] *chuck wants to look at letting owners of wikis we host configure some aspects of their wikis online, and Configure looks like it would be the most customisable [00:42:04] chuck: it's in SVN... [00:42:04] Beware, Special:Extensions is evil [00:42:04] oh, okay [00:42:30] hmm, how would I go about finding out how I would go about purging the cache of some pages on the edit of another, much like inclusion already does? [00:42:30] chuck: so I finally decided to investigate what the 'yourwiki' was in your cloak [00:42:38] Prodego: hehe =) [00:43:00] was #yourwiki the first place you tried? :P [00:43:14] 03(NEW) Strict warnings in Special:ViewConfig - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16953 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Configure; (siebrand) [00:44:33] chuck: no, I googled it [00:45:28] ah, HTMLCacheUpdate.php [00:46:38] oh [00:46:57] interesting project [00:47:16] thanks, we're planning on getting a lot of new things up pretty soon [00:47:54] as I saw on your site, I tried to incorporate a few different types of wikis to make it into a "hybrid" hosting site. public wikis (like wikia), premium wikis (like scribblewiki), and personal wikis (like confluence personal wiki, etc) [00:53:38] 03tstarling * r45624 10/trunk/phase3/ (config/index.php includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php): [00:53:38] * (bug 16937) Show appropriate error message when someone attempts an install on PostgreSQL 7.3 or earlier. [00:53:38] * Fix some issues with the earlier migration of getServerVersion() to numeric only. [00:54:42] :< I'm getting a lot of warnings in configure [00:54:46] 03siebrand * r45625 10/trunk/extensions/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [00:54:46] * Add extension Redirect for easy configuration of redirects on account creation and logout [00:54:46] * Add support for Redirect to Configure and Translate [00:54:57] 03(mod) Windows PHP 5.2. 6 precompiled binaries and Postgresql numeric version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16937 (10tstarling) [00:56:10] Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /home/yourwiki/htdocs/html/w/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php on line 1408 [00:57:18] chuck: What exactly did you do? [00:57:45] chuck: see bugzilla 16953 about 10 lines above [00:58:08] werdnum: I checked out the code, added the require_once and efConfigureSetup, then visited Special:Configure [00:58:55] brion: just don't broaden with special:extensions on, ugh [01:00:47] chuck: hm. [01:01:02] chuck: Let me check that out [01:01:06] someone *may* have tested the extension before me, I know some of the other stewards were interested in it [01:01:36] chuck: it's activated on Wikimedia. [01:03:01] werdnum: yeah, this is on a different wiki farm [01:03:43] oh, you call your super-users 'stewards'? [01:03:57] yes [01:04:07] ew. [01:04:17] what would you call them? "staff"? [01:04:38] something like that. [01:04:44] Or maybe 'administrators' :P [01:04:46] 03(mod) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384 (10tstarling) [01:04:48] 03(mod) Windows PHP 5.2. 6 precompiled binaries and Postgresql numeric version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16937 (10tstarling) [01:05:16] administrators is blah [01:05:25] it's too confusing with sysop [01:05:38] sysop should be 'moderator'. [01:05:50] 03(mod) No PostgreSQL schema name in wiki ID - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15823 summary (10tstarling) [01:07:49] noes [01:11:19] time to install CentOS I guess [01:11:35] 04(REOPENED) References are not shown to Anons when they don' t have edit permissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11224 +comment (10aaronshaf) [01:11:45] hmm? [01:12:15] chuck: following the theme of more keys = less actual decisionmaking power, wikia chose 'janitor', heh [01:12:17] bug 16554 [01:12:35] keys? [01:12:57] chuck: in an office building, who has the most keys to the most doors? [01:13:14] the owner of the building maybe? [01:13:21] janitor? [01:13:22] Splarka: 'janitor' sounds TOO metaphor-y. [01:13:23] janitor! [01:13:39] lol, i get it now :P [01:14:03] werdnum: and 'steward'? wtf [01:14:11] I don't want a pillow or more peanuts, go away [01:14:34] 'steward' does have the general meaning of somebody who oversees something [01:15:03] 'oversight' is a bit wtfish,though. [01:15:17] well, a janitor cleans up the crap left by other people, and fixes things that are broken [01:15:23] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/steward [01:15:27] i have a question, sometimes I see people say "sighted" in a discussion on wikis, do you guys know what that means? [01:15:29] in that way, it is much less metaphor-y and more literal, than the steward reference [01:15:39] chuck: refers to flaggedrevs [01:15:40] When I hear janitor, I think cleaner. [01:15:52] sighting normally means they are marking the page as not being vandalism [01:16:06] werdnum: oddly, that's what they do, so good [01:16:20] Mike_lifeguard: no, in this discussion, i made a counter argument, and the other person said "sighted" [01:16:40] oh, dunno then :) [01:20:17] anyone have a 1.13.3 with api enabled handy? [01:21:14] http://wiki.auzigog.com/api.php?action=parse&page=Main_Page <-- odd api error, no title/text/oldid parameters are being passed [01:21:19] Splarka: wikia scrapped janitor completely [01:21:35] Charitwo: sucks to be them [01:26:12] 03aaron * r45626 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/RatingHistory_body.php: [01:26:12] * Get $days in the first query pass [01:26:12] * Make $int more consistent (x mark spacing) [01:35:51] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on is.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16476 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [01:36:17] 03(mod) Special:Protectedpages should differ MediaWiki messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16846 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:37:00] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on ia.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16485 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [01:48:59] 03aaron * r45627 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Mark reviewed contribs [01:50:04] brb [01:54:44] 03aaron * r45628 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Keep tally going rather than stopping before it can matter [01:55:01] how/does CentralAuth authenticate using the centralauth database table, or the local table? [01:56:02] both. [01:56:33] mainly what i'm wondering is that if it handles password changes and forgotten password reminders nicely [01:56:44] because, the shared user table hasn't occasionally [02:02:19] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on is.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16476 (10spacebirdy) [02:07:11] 03(mod) Recent change unavailable, and other special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16940 (10antoinedelarue) [02:30:34] 03tstarling * r45629 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/ (8 files in 4 dirs): [02:30:34] * Tweaked docs [02:30:34] * Backported r45592, r45624 [02:49:07] I've said some nasty things about debian [02:49:22] but at least its package manager isn't as horribly painfully slow as yum is [02:56:44] helps when your mirrorlist server isn't down though... [02:57:36] ftp.au.debian.org [02:59:22] I'm installing centos, the default yum.repos.d has: mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releasever&arch=$basearch&repo=os [02:59:32] but mirrorlist.centos.org is timing out [03:00:39] my beef with yum is that it likes to sit around doing this for a few minutes: [03:00:42] Reading repository metadata in from local files [03:03:08] no problem with debian right at this moment, just saying it's better than CentOS [03:18:24] 03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [03:22:16] 03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [03:24:01] Hey, I'm trying to setup wgConf, but for some reason, when I go to meta.yourwiki.net, i get redirected to meta_wiki.yourwiki.net [03:24:11] oh wait, I know why.. [03:24:40] is there any way to add custom variables that can be used inside of settings in InitialiseSettings.php? sort of like $wiki and $lang [03:25:11] !parserfunctions | p858snake [03:25:11] --mwbot-- p858snake: "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [03:25:51] TimStarling: to be fair, centos can't make too many changes to yum without breaking RHEL compatibility, which is the reason for its existence [03:26:01] oh, that's what efGetSiteParams [03:26:33] 03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [03:26:45] What file does "$this->html('bodytext')" go to? [03:27:03] SkinTemplate.php [03:27:45] hm [03:27:49] i wish my desktop had bluetooth [03:28:31] What I want to do is remove the first edit button shown on the page, I could do h1.editsection {display:none}, but just in case there is another H1 on the page I don't want to. [03:28:49] whoa, $wgConf rocks once you learn how to use it [03:29:55] you're probably the second person ever to do so [03:31:21] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on is.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16476 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [03:31:24] lol [03:32:11] this is great, I can *finally* do away with the if( $current_wiki['short_name'] == 'somewiki' ) {} blocks that dot my LocalSettings file [03:44:07] 03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 (10rememberthedot) [03:44:16] Yay! I fixed my not staying logged in problem! [03:48:08] hi, i'm struggling to figure out how to get the short url aliasing to work anyone think they can help? [03:48:58] 03(mod) Import strips angle brackets on some installations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16554 (10tstarling) [03:50:07] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on is.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16476 (10spacebirdy) [03:55:33] im following the instructions on Manual:Short_URL#Setup_steps and when i try to access the site I get a 404 error, any suggestions? [03:55:39] I'm having troubles with CentralAuth [03:55:53] is there any way to recreate a local wiki's user record? my skin isn't staying globally [03:56:20] or are skins local [03:57:50] chuck, nearly all of the settings are local, IIRC [03:58:06] other than password and e-mail(?) [04:02:16] 03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [04:07:20] Hrm, can $wgCentralAuthAutoLoginWikis just be set to $wgLocalDatabases? [04:08:52] no [04:09:20] it would be kind of amusing though to try [04:09:39] TimStarling: do I just leave it as default if i'm only on one domain and its already been set in $wgCentralAuthCookieDomain [04:12:34] Does "Alias /wiki /Library/WebServer/Documents/w/index.php" look right for the line in httpd.conf in OS X to get a short URL? [04:13:12] TimStarling: hullo? :P [04:18:25] *chuck wonders how CentralAuth automatically knows to not let my unpriviledged account into our private wiki... [04:19:12] read settings [04:19:28] which ones? [04:19:32] i'm having trouble with SSO [04:28:35] bleh, how do I get the globalgrouppermissions right? manually through the database? [04:31:20] isn't too hard :| [04:32:59] why isn't it listed in Extension:CentralAuth :< [04:35:32] yeah, I have no idea how to bootstrap the permissions for this [04:36:13] as far as changing the DB? [04:37:21] I tried to add myself in the database, but when I go to GlobalGroupPermissions, it says that it's limited to the group Stewards [04:40:43] Prodego: do you know how to [04:40:46] it is probably crats [04:40:53] I can check for you, what is the extention? [04:40:58] CentralAuth [04:41:07] 03(NEW) Split Oversight between oversight and hiderevision in special: globalgrouppermissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16954 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (lilewyn) [04:41:21] should I give myself global crat? [04:41:32] steward has centralauth-admin [04:41:49] 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on ia.wiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16485 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [04:44:01] O_O [04:47:02] praise the lord, FINALLY [04:47:03] :P [04:48:35] *chuck wonders why GlobalGroupPermissions complains that I didn't provide any wiki names, yet I selected opt-out [04:48:40] under edit wiki sets [04:53:23] 04(REOPENED) cache problem: old revisions are shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15659 +comment (10paul.copperman) [04:55:48] 03(mod) Split Oversight between oversight and hiderevision in special: globalgrouppermissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16954 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [05:02:55] >< CentralAuth is acting up severely [05:03:10] Is it possible to migrate from shared user tables to centralauth? because it's failing dismally on our wikis [05:03:14] why are you using centralauth? [05:04:54] Because CentralAuth is better than the fugly hacks we were using before for Shared User Rights and all that [05:06:55] 03(mod) cache problem: old revisions are shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15659 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [05:08:17] Please, is anyone here that's familiar with CentralAuth? [05:08:25] *is there [05:08:32] Sure, what's up? [05:08:39] aww, I was about to ping you [05:09:05] werdnum: I'm trying to migrate from shared user tables to CentralAuth, and it's not working at all [05:09:29] *facepalm* [05:09:38] For one thing, all of the user IDs are wrong, so the local rights are fucked up [05:10:00] central auth is a way to fake a shared user table for projects that are too big and too old [05:10:05] chuck: You should pull the user table back to being the user table for a single database [05:10:23] I equate that move to something like "wow, snazzy crutches, can I break my legs to do that too?" [05:10:28] And *then* run migratePass1.php, which will turn them all into global accounts. [05:10:49] werdnum: That's what I did, I copied the user table from shared_data to meta_wiki, then I ran migratePass0.php then I ran migratePass1.php [05:11:07] And it looks like all of the accounts got merged for meta_wiki [05:11:09] You should also copy the user table to the other wikis, I guess. [05:11:25] ay caramba... [05:11:45] *Splarka wonders why no one sees the asininity... [05:11:50] lol [05:11:58] Splarka: centralauth rox :) [05:12:00] shared user tables with shared IDs make promotions and copying user rights easy... [05:12:29] werdnum: it rocks when you have no shared user DB over 700 projects with 8 years worth of millions of naming conflicts [05:12:42] but why on an existing shared user DB? whyyyyy [05:12:59] for the extra features? [05:13:01] I can understand for the auto-login across domains, but that isn't even applicable to chuck's case [05:13:29] yes, and it is the devs' fault for making those features for CA and not SUT [05:13:34] *Splarka facepalms werdna [05:13:39] What werdnum said.. [05:13:54] chuck: what features specifically? global user rights? [05:13:55] Shared user table is just weird and hacky to me. [05:14:13] creating a login when visiting a wiki for the first time, is not? [05:14:19] with a different userID on every wiki... [05:14:40] 03(mod) cache problem: old revisions are shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15659 (10paul.copperman) [05:14:42] canned response: "the user ID is transparent to the user" [05:14:45] Splarka: that is really great if you have 700 projects with 8 years worth of millions of naming conflicts [05:15:03] yes, WMF was way too late for SUT [05:15:09] Is there any sanity in the world of a shared authentication source for MediaWiki? [05:15:20] Splarka: that makes sense to me. [05:15:29] I like CentralAuth because the groups are separate from the regular form, etc. [05:15:36] well, you're biased werdnum [05:15:43] you're going to be paid to fix problems it causes [05:15:53] lulz [05:16:36] :D [05:16:48] you can't argue with the truth [05:17:31] I'm so tired right now that I'm actually starting to consider LDAP. I should close terminal before I do it. [05:17:57] werdnum: And, my account doesn't have its global rights on all wikis :< [05:18:15] It should. [05:18:15] chuck: you can give your SU account global writes with a simple promotion script [05:18:18] that was fun on Wikia though [05:18:26] we had one wiki without the shared user table [05:18:32] chuck: maybe you need to purge some caches :) [05:18:43] so every time someone was promoted, a random person on uncyclopedia became a steward ('staff') [05:18:45] werdnum: Is there a maintenance script to do that.. [05:18:52] which was usually an inactive vandalism account [05:18:57] chuck: do you use memcached? [05:19:01] yes I do [05:19:12] *chuck restarts it? [05:19:16] yeah [05:20:08] okay, lets try now [05:20:37] werdnum: does CentralAuth not work on wikis where account creation is disabled for * [05:20:52] chuck: it might not. [05:21:48] ugh, even after restarting memcached, the special page doesn't show up [05:22:14] lame, what global right did you give yourself [05:22:41] steward [05:22:48] that isn't a right. [05:22:51] Inside
there is $this->html('newtalk') and $this->html('sitenotice'). What can I do to view those outputs on a page? [05:22:52] it has centralauth-admin, globalgrouppermissions, etc [05:22:57] it's a *group* :P [05:23:07] try typing in the special page name and seeing what happens. [05:23:26] The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Stewards. [05:23:47] is your account definitely attached? [05:25:58] yeah [05:26:53] I will detach it and reattach it [05:26:56] 03(mod) Recent change unavailable, and other special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16940 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [05:28:04] I'm confirming by password, if that makes a difference [05:28:32] nope [05:28:49] well, time to do some debugging! [05:28:54] fire up maintenance/eval.php [05:29:09] should I change the wiki that the CLI thinks its in? [05:29:27] to one of the wikis where you can't get the rights, yes. [05:29:51] okay [05:30:14] (i'm in) [05:30:31] now, $cu = new CentralAuthUser( 'Username' ); [05:30:40] $u = User::newFromName( 'Username' ); [05:31:01] $cu->loadStateNoCache(); [05:31:39] Fatal error: Call to protected method CentralAuthUser::loadStateNoCache() from context '' in /home/yourwiki/htdocs/html/w/maintenance/eval.php(60) : eval()'d code on line 1 [05:31:55] oh, annoying [05:31:57] well that sucks [05:32:05] then just the same, except $cu->invaliateCache() [05:32:47] okay [05:33:17] now, print_r( CentralAuthUser::availableGlobalGroups() ); [05:33:35] print_r( $cu->getGlobalGroups() ); [05:33:43] this is weird, it says i'm in the steward group for that first one [05:33:48] [0] => 'steward' [05:33:49] Is the [edit] button enabled by default, or disabled, for anonymous viewers? [05:33:59] navap: it's enabled by default [05:34:04] Thanks [05:34:12] werdnum: for both of those, steward is the only member of the array [05:34:19] chuck: the first one is "available global groups" [05:34:25] but that's an important clue [05:34:30] you *are* in the global group. [05:34:55] print_r( $cu->isAttached ); [05:35:07] nothing [05:35:15] that means the account isn't attached. [05:35:54] =/ [05:35:59] Preferences says otherwise [05:36:04] how strange [05:36:33] Try $cu->attach( wfWikiId() ); [05:37:18] werdnum: In the database in localnames, it doesn't say that anyone is attached for linux_wiki [05:37:24] i'll try that [05:37:41] nothing :< [05:37:45] that's okay. [05:37:56] now print_r( $cu->isAttached ); [05:37:58] 03(mod) cache problem: old revisions are shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15659 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [05:38:05] now print_r( $cu->isAttached() ); ** [05:38:14] 1 [05:38:17] maybe that was the mistake before [05:38:17] whee [05:38:23] okay lets see here [05:38:23] now $cu->getGlobalRights(); [05:39:04] now it's nothing [05:39:11] empty array, that is [05:39:30] hm [05:39:41] it actually had steward in it before :P [05:40:18] globalrights != globalgroups [05:40:37] open up mysql, SELECT * from global_group_permissions where ggp_group='steward'; [05:40:39] oh [05:41:12] comes up with a lot of permissions [05:41:16] all the ones I configured before [05:41:35] what's in the ggp_restriction column? [05:41:59] there is no ggp_restriction column [05:42:06] oh, god [05:42:11] it's the wiki set [05:42:30] yes. [05:42:41] yeah, so, woops :P [05:42:53] werdnum: the reason I had it configured that way was because the wiki set editor was broken [05:43:07] ah, that was Victor's feature. [05:43:19] why does it insist on me specifying wikis, even though it was an opt-out set :< [05:43:48] You don't need to put any wiki set at all on it, as far as I know. [05:44:40] Oh, really? [05:44:55] yeah [05:45:00] you can say "No set, as far as I know" [05:45:06] and if not, it's horribly broken and I will fix it. [05:45:42] it works, it's a tad illogical, though [05:45:51] hmm [05:46:09] it says "sets where this group is active", and the option I have selected is "(none)", yet it works on *all* of them [05:46:29] ah, yes, English is not Victor's first language. [05:48:01] ah, good thing he's writing the english interface messages for it then [05:48:24] Well, traditionally the English messages are written by whoever writes the feature, so that people can actually use it [05:48:25] werdnum: CentralAuth doesn't keep track of the user's local ID, does it? [05:48:29] the prose can be fixed up later. [05:48:33] chuck: What do you mean> [05:49:03] well, as you said, I have to import the user table into every database [05:50:12] By the way, make sure you have a backup of that user table. [05:50:19] it's stored locally [05:50:27] in a sql dump [05:50:31] okay, good. [05:50:40] Anyway, I don't *think* so. [05:50:47] no? [05:50:59] *werdnum checks the schema [05:51:28] Doesn't appear so. [05:52:10] 03(mod) cache problem: old revisions are shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15659 (10paul.copperman) [05:52:33] werdnum: so you'd suggest importing this table to every wiki's database, then? [05:52:41] yes. [05:53:00] chuck: carefully [05:53:04] Prodego: carefully? [05:53:11] carefully [05:53:47] howso [05:54:01] Ignore him. [05:54:06] Do it recklessly! [05:54:12] :< [05:54:30] *werdnum reminds Prodego that it was him who recklessly drove into oncoming crap. [05:54:42] ugh this is hard, I wish there was a happy medium between shared user tables and central auth [05:54:52] werdnum: never surrender [05:54:56] something that actually has features like central auth does, while not being so hackish like shared user tables are [05:55:17] it sounds like you're talking about CentralAuth there :) [05:55:28] chuck: you realize both parts of that statement were pro central auth [05:55:40] there was no negative for central auth [05:56:06] "something that actually has features like central auth does" good for central auth "while not being so hackish like shared user tables are" bad for NOT central auth [05:56:18] an addendum, then: while not being so focused on merging accounts from over 700 projects with 8 years worth of millions of naming conflicts [05:56:46] you do realize, central auth is more hackish, right? [05:57:03] ugh [05:57:12] i hate this :P [05:57:13] granted, it took 8 years to be finalized, so by the end it couldn't be called 'hackish' [05:57:39] this simply won't work very well [05:57:51] even if I import user tables, central auth *will* find a way to bork user ids again [05:58:01] that is what it does, that is why it exists [05:58:13] so if you have two accounts with different IDs they can be treated 'the same' [05:58:36] it is a hack to immitate Shared User thingies [05:58:39] i'm switching back to shared user tables, no way in hell am I going to be able to fix this and make it work nicely [05:59:00] lets say you had two dissimilar wikis, and wanted to log in to both at the same time.. CA! [05:59:17] almost any other situation though, !CA [05:59:32] chuck: what features exactly are you craving? I mean, dealbreaker featurs that CA seems to offer? [05:59:38] ^features, even [05:59:42] chuck: what you really want is the version of central auth I have been asking for [05:59:57] which is basically configure + central auth stuff [05:59:59] no, what chuck wants is Shared User with CA fluff [06:00:10] hey, that rhymed [06:00:11] I want what Prodego is saying [06:00:26] sadly it does not exist [06:00:42] okay, what do you need to do that you can't in CA? [06:00:42] it is probably possible to turn central auth in to it [06:00:49] er, can't with out CA [06:00:56] Splarka: it is just the endless complexities of CA that are the problem [06:01:19] yeah, what Prodego [06:01:22] yes, but what do you _want_ chuck? shared preferences? universal login cookies? shared rights? global block? [06:02:04] use pinky's CA [06:02:07] I want semi-shared preferences (the owner of the farm can decide which are shared), SSO, global rights that are handled like CA's, global blocking/hiding. [06:02:14] all that is possible with SU without breaking userID integrity, the only difference between super SU and CA is broken userID integrity and all the wikimedia devs behind CA trying to make it not appear hackish [06:02:21] 03(mod) cache problem: old revisions are shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15659 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [06:02:47] that end part is where the support would be though [06:03:00] right, but the features will exist for SU someday (well, maybe not at this rate) [06:03:07] you just have to... create them [06:03:13] or steal from Wikia [06:03:22] How would I edit the order of some of the div's inside
? [06:03:27] it had most of those features years before WMF, as it started with a shared user table [06:03:31] Splarka: stealing from wikia is *really hard* [06:03:49] they don't even have to post copyright notices, no one can be bothered enough to make their crap work with a regular mediawiki installation [06:03:55] particularly if you are setting something up that would basically be the same thing [06:04:00] and all the wikia code is awful [06:04:07] just like the rest of wikia [06:04:12] preaching to the choir [06:04:25] Splarka: hey, you're the one who told me to use it :P [06:04:38] Splarka: stealing from wikia is *really hard* <- preaching to the choir [06:05:33] with a shared user table it isn't theoretically hard to just iterate over every wiki and add/remove groups from a userid with a script, central auth has nice tools to do it because otherwise it is a huge pain [06:05:51] chuck: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GlobalUserrights O_O [06:06:11] that's cool [06:06:17] several of wikia's global blocking tools are in SVN now [06:06:18] chuck: test before making live :) [06:06:43] preferences were always a prob, due to caching, they'd be copied from central on your first visit to a new wiki, but then cache annoyingly [06:08:07] WaRpAtH: Yeah, I dunno what that is, we're using an extension that does basically the same thing that I wrote and released, I couldn't spot any differences between that one. [06:10:13] chuck: the key thing is that local rights and global rights be totally seperate [06:11:03] Prodego: indeed, that's what I want [06:11:12] I dunno how CentralAuth does it. [06:11:23] I'd love to modify my extension to work like centralauth. [06:11:26] werdnum: how does central auth do it? [06:11:31] do what? [06:12:29] werdnum: how does it make the global groups separate from the local groups? [06:12:44] (while still making them transparent to extensions that check for certain rights) [06:12:46] chuck: stores them in a completely different database. [06:12:53] the transparency is just a hook [06:12:55] UserGetRights [06:12:58] it adds the rights to that. [06:14:02] ohh.. [06:14:12] see, i'm using UserEffectiveGroups, and I just let MediaWiki handle the rights [06:14:35] that's silly, because you're assuming a common set of group permissions. [06:15:03] which you really don't want [06:15:06] Well, we *do* have a common set of permissions [06:15:25] but, yes, ideally we don't want that [06:15:29] so I'm rewriting that, then [06:16:47] werdnum: no one would get pissed if I took some code from a few of centralauth's files, right? [06:16:55] course not [06:16:58] (attributing the source, of course) [06:17:40] okay.. so I'm going to write a library like CentralAuthUser first [06:19:45] (attributing the source, of course) <-- only if you distribute it [06:19:54] Splarka: really? O_o [06:20:07] you don't need to attribute or release source for serving web pages with it [06:20:27] there is a license where you do, AGPL or something [06:20:49] oh, okay [06:21:00] (that reminds me of facebook's license for the facebook platform, where you have to release your code if its serve in a web page) [06:21:09] *served [06:21:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affero_General_Public_License [06:21:55] I think the only mediawiki "code" that must remain in GPL is javascript and CSS, as they are client-side [06:22:49] skins, too [06:24:25] murky grey one, that [06:24:57] if you create your own skin from scratch, but use the skin and skintemplate functions like all skins do, must you distribute the Skinname.php source? I think most wikis don't [06:26:57] oh? CentralAuthUser extends "AuthPluginUser".. [06:26:59] *chuck reads docs [06:28:43] Where would I start looking, to edit where the TOC is placed on a wiki page? [06:29:18] Can you just put __TOC__ where you want it? [06:29:35] Yeah, just put __TOC__ where you want it to go, as mjgardes said [06:29:46] On every page? [06:29:51] includes/parser/Parser.php, formatHeadings() [06:30:16] Due to some recent changes in my server configuration, I can lo longer use the nice links like index.php/Main_Page. How do I go back to the index.php?title=Main_Page style? [06:30:46] werdnum: if ( !isset( $user->centralAuthObj ) ) < how does that work? can you just set instance variables like that without defining them? [06:30:49] navap: you could use CSS, every toc is id="toc" [06:31:02] chuck: sure you can. [06:31:04] but that won't change where it is in the html like __toc__ [06:31:07] mjgardes: set $wgArticlePath in LocalSettings.php [06:31:14] In Tim's words, it is your right as a PHP programmer. [06:31:15] werdnum: O_o okay then, I'll do that [06:31:16] I can't use CSS to place the div the toc is in, in a different spot in the html. [06:31:37] TimStarling: thanks [06:31:38] navap: well, then __TOC__ on every page is your solution probably [06:31:44] TimStarling: Thanks, looking through that now [06:32:25] objects are hashtables, like in javascript [06:33:00] well, almost like javascript [06:33:38] *krimpet plumbed the depths of the zend engine before... *shudder* [06:35:00] in PHP they're hashtables plus a class pointer [06:35:09] in JS they're just hashtables, no class [06:35:43] TimStarling: parser.php seems to go through creating the TOC, but not the placement on the page. Did I miss something? [06:35:43] Meaning there are no static methods in JS? [06:36:02] in JS you use an object as a class [06:36:19] so the distinction is blurred between static and non-static [06:37:00] werdnum, JS is prototype-based [06:37:15] krimpet: yeah, so you can edit the prototypes [06:37:16] that is fun :) [06:37:20] So, all classes are copies of old ones, technically [06:37:35] Though Greasemonkey does have a weird concept of a "class." [06:37:57] (from the C API side) [06:39:21] 03(mod) Changing the text when a wiki does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125 (10alan.thomas) [06:39:33] navap: it's there [06:40:19] starting at "# split up and insert constructed headlines" [06:40:54] I started a page about template ideas. [06:41:08] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template_ideas [06:45:26] TimStarling: I've stared at that code for quite some time now, another hint please? [06:45:38] Does it have to do with the regex line? [06:46:14] at that point, $toc holds the table of contents [06:46:39] if there was __TOC__ in the page, it will be marked with and $this->mForceTocPosition will be true [06:47:04] otherwise, $toc is inserted after the first section [06:47:14] if( $enoughToc && !$i && $isMain && !$this->mForceTocPosition ) { [06:47:15] # Top anchor now in skin [06:47:15] $full = $full.$toc; [06:47:33] ...before the first? [06:47:50] !$i means that it's the first, $enoughToc means that there were enough sections to warrant a TOC [06:47:50] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "$i". [06:47:57] Splarka: section zero, the first [06:48:17] oh, after the first section content (at the end), right... a [06:48:24] heh, botpwned [06:48:44] So instead of after the first section, if I want the toc to display at the top, what would I change? [06:48:45] navap: where are you wanting it exactly? above all content? below all content? after the second or third section? [06:48:52] *Splarka asks too late [06:48:57] heh [06:49:03] *Splarka goes back to amazon [06:49:29] What does $isMain do? [06:50:20] you came in asking where the code is, and now you want me to just write it for you? [06:50:46] Well, I thought I would be able to muddle my way through it, but I am extremely lost. [06:51:55] before the loop, [06:51:59] $full = $toc; [06:52:25] Ah, ok that makes sense! [06:52:26] then comment out the line: $full = $full.$toc [06:52:42] Yes, got it, thanks a lot [06:52:53] and comment out if( $this->mForceTocPosition ) at the end and its associated code block [06:53:00] so that only return $full; remains [06:53:19] Otherwise, if __TOC__ was specified, it would be displayed twice correct? [06:53:35] yes [06:55:51] *Splarka wonders if it'd be less hacky to have an extension add an explicit __TOC__ on a pre-parser hook to all page contents (assuming it wasn't in already) [06:57:46] werdnum: why does loadGroups need the master database [06:58:35] well, he didn't ask what would be least hacky, so I didn't tell him [06:58:35] hm, I've got $full=$toc; before the for loop, and I've commented out the force if statement at the end so that only the return is parsed. The toc is still in the same spot though. [06:58:35] the devil is in the details eh [06:58:37] navap: tried purge/nulledit/preview? [06:58:57] No [06:59:20] werdnum: loadGroups is in CentralAuthUser, by the way [06:59:22] The old parser.php is in the cache then I take it? [06:59:44] no, the old rendered HTML [07:00:49] Thanks a lot! Got it working :) [07:01:24] navap: you might consider making an extension though, as hacking core files makes upgrade a manual affair [07:01:35] TimStarling: Do you happen to know why CentralAuthUser::loadGroups() is using the master instead of the slave? [07:01:45] chuck: I do, because I wrote it. [07:02:05] The reason is because it's cached, and the data absolutely cannot be out of date, because otherwise it caches stale data [07:02:17] Yes, that was the next thing I wanted to look at. I'm new to MediaWiki, and just wanted to get a feel of where what is. [07:02:46] werdnum: oh [07:03:38] navap: for example: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ParserBeforeStrip [07:04:38] you could (while making sure they aren't editing), scrape the page for __TOC__ and if not found prefix the $text with it, so that the code basically thinks every page starts with __TOC__, though you might want to check for at least one section [07:05:25] though there are probably better places to hook into, but you get the idea [07:05:26] By prefixing it, the actual text of the page will have __TOC__ at the top. Viewable when one edits the page? [07:05:41] no, you'd explicitly check if editing and abort [07:05:43] what type of class does wfGetLB return [07:05:55] so it would only seem like each page started with __TOC__ to the renderer [07:06:06] of course, this would be annoying on pages with no sections, so you'd wanna refine it [07:06:40] there are lots of hooks, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks under 'Page Rendering' [07:08:00] ideally you'd want the last hook before __TOC__ is checked [07:08:29] which I guess would be InternalParseBeforeLinks [08:09:04] 03(mod) Create proofread page namespaces on Polish Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16926 summary (10thomasV1) [08:31:01] 03(mod) Import strips angle brackets on some installations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16554 (10tstarling) [08:38:57] 03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 (10rememberthedot) [08:49:27] for [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice #]] would it be 01 1 for the page name? [08:52:50] p858snake: Err.. no? [08:53:02] i ment 01 or 1 [08:53:06] MediaWiki:Sitenotice_id and MediaWiki:Sitenotice [08:53:15] Those are the only two options I know about. [09:05:54] so what type of pages does [[MediaWiki:Nstab-media]] or is that for a custom NS that wikipedia has? [09:22:13] p858snake: nothing currently and referring to namespaces by the tab description is :E [09:27:07] HI [09:32:57] 03(mod) Template with parameters can't be used in form fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16558 (10for_amby) [09:34:59] 03(mod) Create regular downloadable dumps of public SVN repositories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16952 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [09:41:04] Hey [09:41:21] is it possible to replace the page title with the site name on the modern skin? [09:41:34] (Dont ask me why, im asking on behalf of someone else) [09:41:51] well i know its possible [09:41:56] But how would i do it? [09:48:49] Prom_cat: try MediaWiki:Pagetitle [09:49:27] Prom_cat: that is for the tag in all skins, I believe [09:52:11] <Splarka> (yep, tis) [09:52:39] <Prom_cat> yeah [09:52:45] <Prom_cat> what about the page header [09:52:54] <Prom_cat> where it says the pag name [09:52:59] <Splarka> <div id="mw_header"><h1 id="firstHeading"><?php $this->data['displaytitle']!=""?$this->html('title'):$this->text('title') ?></h1></div> [09:53:02] <Splarka> nope, that's the h1 [10:11:30] <kraut> moin [10:13:13] <Captainss> Hello room [10:14:07] <Captainss> Where I can find Template:Ombox? [10:15:54] <Captainss> !ombox [10:15:54] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "ombox". [10:17:55] <Nikerabbit> google it? [10:25:42] <Captainsss> My templates are not working. How can I install Message box(Ambox, Ombox etc) on my Wiki? [10:26:45] <Nikerabbit> copy them from wikipedia (mind the license) [10:27:19] <Captainsss> where from Wikipedia? [10:27:57] <Captainsss> someone put template:Imbox already on my Wiki yesterday but not others.. [10:28:10] <Nikerabbit> use google? [10:28:20] <Captainsss> nop [10:28:32] <Captainsss> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cmbox, you mean by this? [10:30:04] <Captainsss> 2. how can I enable file/image uploading on my Wiki? [10:31:07] <Nikerabbit> 2. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_enable_uploading.3F [10:31:53] <Captainsss> Nikerabbit: What about Template boxes? [10:35:01] <Nikerabbit> how hard can it be [10:35:06] <Nikerabbit> write template ombox into google [10:35:26] <Nikerabbit> the first link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ombox [10:35:57] <Captainsss> ok, i am there, now? [10:35:59] <Nikerabbit> then click view source, and copy it and all the other templates it uses [10:37:46] <Captainsss> you mean by i;ve to copy complete source of this page and paste it to my wiki? [10:38:26] <Nikerabbit> yes [10:38:31] <Captainsss> Nikerabbit: Ok [10:38:39] <CIA-58> 03ialex * r45630 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): svn:eol-style native [10:38:46] <Nikerabbit> that is the work you have to do if you want to use existing templates from wikipedia [10:39:15] <Captainsss> Nikerabbit: I done for uploading fils but i cant see any link on my wiki [10:42:52] <Captainsss> Regarding Enabling Uploads: I have replance false with true in Localsettings.php-file and then set permission of images folder to 777 [10:42:57] <Captainsss> but nothing happenned yet [10:45:10] <Captainsss> helo................. [10:57:41] <Captains> Hi [10:58:05] <Laaknor> hello [10:58:37] <Captains> Laaknor: I wanna help regarding Message boxes [10:59:06] <Laaknor> I don't think I can help you there [10:59:11] <Laaknor> not really my thing [10:59:21] <Captains> Regarding Uploading files, can you help me? [10:59:26] <Laaknor> possibly [11:00:40] <Captains> I've replace false with true in LocalSettings.php=file and then set the permission of images folder to 777, but nothing happened [11:01:59] <Laaknor> what variable have you replaced false with true on? [11:02:34] <CIA-58> 03ialex * r45631 10/trunk/extensions/Redirect/Redirect.class.php: Use $target->getFullUrl() rather than recreating the full URL with configuration settings [11:04:08] <Captains> Laaknor: I set $wgEnableUploads to true in LocalSettings.php [11:05:00] <Laaknor> that should be correct [11:05:14] <Captains> then, why I cant see any link to Upload files on my Wiki? [11:05:32] <Laaknor> I'm checking... [11:05:54] <Captains> olright [11:06:26] <Laaknor> just seems Apache has died on my testserver, so need to fix it :P [11:06:52] <Captains> is there anything to do for enabling files uploading? [11:06:57] <Captains> anything else^ [11:07:07] <Laaknor> no it shouldn't [11:07:29] <Captains> ok [11:07:43] <Laaknor> $wgEnableUploads = true; # should be enough [11:08:18] <Captains> ok but then what the problem? [11:10:48] <Laaknor> just let me check with my own server [11:11:13] <Laaknor> both Apache and MySQL has died unexpecedly... probably need to check that server later [11:11:43] <Laaknor> can you go to Special:Upload ? [11:16:38] <Captainss> Laaknor: I was disconnect, What I missed? [11:17:18] <Captainss> Laaknor: I was disconnect, What I missed? [11:18:23] <Captainss> Laaknor: I was disconnect, What I missed? [11:18:29] <yksinaisyyteni> stop repeating [11:19:40] <richarddavis> Can anyone tell me how to add a link to a library or bookstore in Special:BookSources MW version 1.13.3. Thanks. [11:19:43] <Laaknor> yes, I see the flashing of my nick the first time you say it; just busy with something else right now [11:20:00] <Laaknor> Captainss: can you go to Special:Upload, or do you get an error? [11:20:57] <Captainss> well, I dont try Special:Upload [11:25:33] <Captainss> Laaknor: not working [11:26:04] <Captainss> I;ve tried to open Speical:Upload but there's an erro [11:26:07] <Captainss> error^ [11:26:27] <Laaknor> what does that error say? [11:27:25] <CIA-58> 03ialex * r45632 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.settings.php): Fixed Special:Extensions: was sometimes throwing an error when saving the configuration [11:28:03] <Captainss> Laaknor: Its working now, thanks [11:28:08] <Laaknor> np [11:28:18] <Captainss> I want to if users can upload or only me/ [11:28:48] <Captainss> Why I cant see the link to this page, becuase I removed Toolbox? [11:30:06] <Laaknor> that is part of the toolbox, yes [11:30:31] <Captainss> ok [11:30:39] <Laaknor> if you remove that, you have to add the upload-page to MediaWiki:Sidebar [11:31:05] <Laaknor> but then it's visible also to the users that don't have permission to upload [11:31:25] <Captainss> ok [11:37:16] <Captainss> Anybody who can help me regarding Message boxes? [11:39:20] <Captainss> I'm here [11:40:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Retiring the developer user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12569 (10dungodung) [11:45:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikimedia-wide message distribution on RC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=838 summary; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [11:51:51] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Namespace for Egyptian Arabic wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16918 +shell (10Wiki.Melancholie) [11:53:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Allow namespace-specific copyright notices - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16596 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [11:56:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Creation of namespace 'Portal' at bar.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16290 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [11:57:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Proposal creating new namespace for the Khmer Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16022 +shell (10Wiki.Melancholie) [11:57:45] <Captains> !template [11:57:45] --mwbot-- For more information about templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>. The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions> and enabling HTML Tidy <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>. [12:00:41] <Hyb> hi guys, my mediawiki mysqp db is already 628mb big and i don't know why :) is there any possibility to delete all old contents of articles in the db? [12:01:40] <ialex> Hyb: you can try maintenance/deleteArchivedRevisions.php [12:02:10] <ialex> hmm sorry, it's maintenance/deleteOldRevisions.php [12:02:34] <Hyb> ah ok, i'll try. thx :) [12:06:13] <Captains> hey guys! [12:06:33] <Captains> I wanna help with templates :( [12:07:36] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Transwiki import ignores the namespace if it doesn' t have the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15387 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [12:07:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special:Import should adjust namespaces to local wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5770 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [12:10:00] <Captains> I wanna help with templates :( [12:11:25] <pschloss> can anyone out there give me a hand troubleshooting what i did wrong following the "correct" guide to generate a short URL? [12:11:57] <Captains> Reedy: Hi [12:12:09] <Reedy> hi... [12:12:17] <p858snake> Captains: what issues are you having? [12:12:47] <Captains> p85snake: Hi, My templates are not working [12:13:02] <Captains> I tried to paste sources of Ombox but not working [12:14:17] <Captains> p85snake: Just tell me from where can I get sources for Imboxx, Ombox and other all message boxs that can enable my templates [12:15:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Fix portal_talk namespace in Malay language Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9907 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [12:16:56] <Captains> Reedy: Can you help me in this/ [12:17:14] <Reedy> Make a list of all the template the templates you want use [12:17:17] <Reedy> and export them [12:17:20] <Reedy> import them onto your wiki [12:18:07] <Captains> I just want to use Imbox, Ombox [12:18:55] <Wuzur|rhn> !export | Captains [12:18:55] --mwbot-- Captains: To export pages from a wiki, navigate to Special:Export on the wiki, type in the names of the pages to export, and hit "export". See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export> for an example of this form. See also: !import [12:19:03] <Wuzur|rhn> !import | Captains [12:19:03] --mwbot-- Captains: To import pages a few pages, use Special:Import - you can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use importDump.php - see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps> for details. NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors! [12:19:35] <Wuzur|rhn> Captains: And export [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.css]], too [12:20:04] <Reedy> If you want the images, you'll need to upload those manually [12:20:38] <Captains> let me try :( [12:21:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Better Malayalam translation for Namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15829 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [12:23:16] <Wuzur|rhn> !man $wgForeignFileRepos | Captains [12:23:16] --mwbot-- Captains: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgForeignFileRepos [12:23:32] <Captains> Wuzur: Its too complicated :( [12:23:49] <Wuzur|rhn> it's the only way to use them [12:23:54] <Captains> I just want to import 2/3 templates, is there any simple way [12:24:36] <Wuzur|rhn> The first link I gave is to export them from Wikipedia, the second one for importing to your own wiki, the last one to use commons-images on your wiki [12:25:25] <Captains> Ok, I am on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export, and I want to export http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Imbox, what I do ? [12:26:04] <Reedy> Template:Imbox in the big text box, include templates [12:26:05] <Reedy> export [12:26:11] <Reedy> but you wont get any that it also transcludes [12:26:57] <Captains> !transcludes [12:26:57] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "transcludes". [12:27:00] <Wuzur|rhn> oh and you need that for make that work properly: [12:27:13] <Wuzur|rhn> !e ParserFunctions | Captains [12:27:13] --mwbot-- Captains: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions [12:27:42] <Captains> I;ve installed it already [12:27:54] <Wuzur|rhn> :) [12:29:00] <Captains> Is this what i need to export and then import on my wiki:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/Template:Imbox [12:30:43] <Captains> Reedy: I export it :) [12:31:33] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Pontic Wikipedia has been approved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16955 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (Gerard.meijssen) [12:34:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Pontic Wikipedia has been approved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16955 +shell (10sam) [12:35:58] <Captains> Importing is in progress [12:37:43] <Captains> by the way, How is it possible to replace Page title with Site title in Modern skin? [12:41:31] <Captains> Reedy: Still my template is not working [12:41:32] <Captains> Dammit [12:41:50] <Reedy> You'll need any and all templates that that template includes [12:41:55] <Reedy> unless you remove them from the template page [12:42:34] <Captains> yah i export include templates [12:45:38] <Captains> p85snake: you here? [12:46:05] <Captains> Are you same, who create Template:Imbox on my wiki yesterday? [12:51:29] <Captains> FunPika:HI [12:52:08] <Captains> Reedy:you here ? [12:53:43] <Captains> I have deleted all what i import [12:55:44] <Captains> anybody here? [12:55:48] <Captains> ding ding [13:01:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Preferences return "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." error, when the HTML is alright. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16941 +comment (10lejonel) [13:20:38] <Splarka> oop, I forgot to sleep [13:20:56] <CIA-58> 03aaron * r45633 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: (bug 15659) Fixed cache bug. Avoid using broken getContent() function. [13:21:04] <Captains> ok [13:21:36] <Captains> I need help with these dammit message boxes [13:21:51] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) cache problem: old revisions are shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15659 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:22:51] <CIA-58> 03ialex * r45634 10/branches/REL1_14/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php Configure.settings.php): backport r45632 [13:27:47] <tty2> is there a way to make the default page (when you go to the wiki's root) something other than Main_Page? [13:28:44] <Wuzur|rhn> tty2: edit MediaWiki:Mainpage [13:29:11] <tty2> Wuzur|rhn: what do you mean? is that in LocalSettings.php ? [13:30:07] <Wuzur|rhn> tty2: On the wiki, a normal page [13:30:22] <tty2> hmm [13:30:29] <tty2> should be under Special pages then? [13:32:16] <tty2> Wuzur|rhn: got it thanks [13:32:24] <Wuzur|rhn> no, go to yourwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Mainpage (only admins are allowed to edit) [13:32:32] <Captains> Wuzur: my templates are not working? [13:33:18] <Captains> Wuzur: my templates are working now, but now having problem with images [13:33:44] <Captains> how's it possible to link external images on my wiki/ [13:33:46] <Wuzur|rhn> Did you took a look at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgForeignFileRepos [13:35:37] <Captains> there is code [edit] Using files from Wikimedia Commons, where I have to put it? [13:36:11] <Captains> in Localsettings? [13:36:14] <Wuzur|rhn> yes [13:36:27] <svip> Is the navigation popup gadget an extension? [13:36:30] <Captains> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgForeignFileRepos#Using_files_from_Wikimedia_Commons_:_ForeignAPIRepo [13:36:55] <Captains> Is it ok to put this code in that php file, and my photos will start working? [13:37:15] <Wuzur|rhn> all images from commons should normally work [13:37:24] <Wuzur|rhn> !e Gadgets | svip [13:37:24] --mwbot-- svip: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets [13:37:29] <Captains> ok [13:37:54] <Captains> and if sometimes, if i want to use photos that i upload on my wiki.? [13:38:06] <Wuzur|rhn> you can use them normally [13:38:35] *Captains realised Wuzur is only helper at the momoent, where others? [13:39:37] <Wuzur|rhn> svip: The code is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-popups.js and navpop.css the definition at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition [13:40:06] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Show IPTC metadata on image description page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16956 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (raimond.spekking) [13:41:05] <Captains> Wuzur:thanks it working [13:41:34] <CIA-58> 03aaron * r45635 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: [13:41:34] <CIA-58> * Added getRawText() convenience function to always get the current revision [13:41:34] <CIA-58> * Fix incorrect usage of getContent() which broke if ?oldid was set [13:46:35] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) recommended svn version for 1.13 is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16849 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [13:47:10] <Captains> how is it possible to replace Page tile with site name in MODERN skin>?/ [14:05:59] <Captains> how is it possible to replace Page tile with site name in MODERN skin>?/ [14:15:27] <CIA-58> 03aaron * r45636 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Grant sysops and old users 'autoreview' [14:16:37] <Captains> how is it possible to replace Page tile with site name in MODERN skin>?/ [14:18:17] <p858snake> please do not keep sending the same question, when and if someone can help they well [14:18:20] <p858snake> *will [14:22:07] <Captains> ok [14:22:08] <Captains> sorry [14:22:39] <Captains> p85snake: How is it possible to add articles/pages that created by users in a page [14:23:48] <djds4rce> can any 1 help me my wiki is not working not even showing the main page [14:23:53] <Captains> if somebody start a page, how is it possible to automatically appear on a single page?? [14:24:11] <djds4rce> http://java2c.freehostia.com/index.php?title=Main_Page [14:24:11] <Captains> djds4rce: whats the problem? [14:24:14] <djds4rce> see [14:24:18] <djds4rce> pls [14:24:34] <Platonides> djds4rce, did you edit DefaultSettings.php ? [14:24:40] <djds4rce> ya [14:24:41] <Platonides> you must not change that file [14:24:48] <Captains> DefaultSettings.php something woring with this file [14:24:49] <Platonides> changes are done at LocalSettings [14:24:54] <djds4rce> to change logo [14:25:03] <Platonides> you do that at LocalSettings.php [14:25:04] <Captains> oh [14:25:15] <djds4rce> now hw do i fix it???? [14:25:19] <Platonides> djds4rce, replace defaultsettings with the original one [14:25:28] <Captains> yah [14:25:33] <djds4rce> again upload a new file???? [14:25:37] <Captains> let me give you the line, you deleted [14:25:43] <Captains> no need [14:26:05] <djds4rce> ok [14:26:13] <Captains> just wait a moment [14:26:50] <djds4rce> ya [14:29:55] <Captainss> I was DC [14:30:13] <Captainss> dammit connect [14:30:32] <djds4rce> where???server???? [14:31:06] <Captainss> yah [14:32:11] <Captainss> i dont what you are doing with your files [14:32:17] <Captainss> http://java2c.freehostia.com/index.php?title=Main_Page [14:32:25] <Captainss> now what is this ? [14:32:37] <djds4rce> err [14:32:45] <djds4rce> i replaced the file now new error [14:32:51] <djds4rce> errors [14:32:52] <djds4rce> :( [14:33:25] <djds4rce> now wht to do reinsatll??? [14:33:38] <Captainss> maybe [14:33:50] <Captainss> i realise, you dont know what to do where [14:34:03] <djds4rce> ya [14:34:05] <Captainss> try reinstalling it [14:34:12] <djds4rce> actually don know a lot of php [14:34:13] <djds4rce> and ya [14:34:18] <djds4rce> 1 more problem [14:34:29] <djds4rce> my ftp is not working properly [14:34:38] <djds4rce> for this server [14:34:40] <Captainss> oh [14:34:50] <djds4rce> but eworks fine for another server [14:35:02] <Captainss> try reinstalling it, and consult us first before going to make anychange [14:35:03] <djds4rce> it took me 5 hours to upload media wiki today [14:35:08] <djds4rce> ya [14:35:10] <djds4rce> sure [14:35:13] <Captainss> oh [14:35:38] <Captainss> goto intercafe and try uploading there :) [14:35:59] <djds4rce> wht is tht?? [14:36:00] <Captainss> i know majority of home users dont have good internt connections [14:36:07] <djds4rce> ya which free host do u suggest [14:36:11] <Captainss> nothing, just reinstall [14:36:20] <Captainss> try yourwiki.net [14:37:05] <Captainss> http://www.yourwiki.net [14:39:15] <djds4rce> can i put ads on my wiki if i host from here???? [14:42:40] *Captainss wanna help everbody :) [14:43:39] *Captainss wanna help everbody :) [14:44:23] <djds4rce> hey captainss [14:44:29] <Captainss> yah yah [14:44:37] <Captainss> Problem: [14:44:37] <djds4rce> 1 last doubt can i put ads in ma wiki [14:44:45] <djds4rce> if i host from there [14:44:46] <djds4rce> ???? [14:45:03] <Captainss> are you talking about yourwiki.net? [14:45:07] <djds4rce> ya [14:45:22] <Captainss> ask to Prom_cat | Prom_cat [14:45:23] <djds4rce> just in case i wanna make it a bit comercial [14:45:27] <hausgeist> moin [14:45:59] <djds4rce> can i send him a personal message??? [14:46:06] <Prom_cat> djds4rce: Im here [14:46:19] <Captainss> Prom_cat get us :D [14:47:07] <p858snake> yeah no point private messaging people in here because if they are here they will see the message in the channel and if they want to respond they will [14:47:33] <Captainss> Prom_cat: djds4rce is talking about if he can put ads in Wiki site? [14:47:48] <Captainss> I'm talking about Wiki site at yourwiki.net [14:48:52] <Captainss> p85snake: I wanna put newly created article pages in a specific page, How ? [14:48:53] <Prom_cat> Yeah i know [14:49:04] <Prom_cat> He i pm'ing me [14:49:45] <p858snake> Captainss: best bet is to look at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix [14:49:48] <Captainss> p85snake: can you help me in this? [14:50:17] <p858snake> no, because i'm busy with something else and i have no idea about it [14:50:57] <Captainss> I know, you always busy and busy [14:52:20] <p858snake> and i'm only 1 person out of 188 other people in here that could also help you >> [14:52:23] <p858snake> *>.> [14:53:17] <Captainss> hahaha [14:53:44] <Captainss> you are right [14:53:44] <Captainss> thanks for that [14:54:03] <Captainss> I am talking about something like in Wikinews [14:54:58] <Captainss> when user start an article, it automatically appear under "Articles in development" area [14:55:00] <Captainss> I would like to use something like this on my wiki. so users can take participation with newly created articles. [14:55:43] <p858snake> i believe wikinews does it based on categories in the page so you could do it with DPL [14:56:04] <djds4rce> captains iam not actually with not of knowledge but y dont u use the recent page as a template on ur main page??? [14:56:22] <djds4rce> pls this just wht i felt don think iam a retard [14:57:56] <p858snake> well you can do that but you can customize what is showen [14:58:03] <p858snake> so it gets pretty ugly [14:58:32] <djds4rce> oh [14:58:34] <CIA-58> 03ialex * r45637 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (14 files): [14:58:34] <CIA-58> * (bug 16953) Fixed error on Special:Configure and Special:ViewConfig [14:58:34] <CIA-58> * Added $wgImplicitGroups to the default list of editable settings [14:58:34] <CIA-58> * Enabled extension are no more resetted when after an edit on Special:Configure [14:58:34] <CIA-58> * Whitespaces fixes [14:59:05] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Strict warnings in Special:ViewConfig - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16953 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [14:59:11] <djds4rce> like the articles wont be visible only the change data will be [15:01:47] <Captains> Hey [15:01:51] <Captains> I was disconnect [15:02:14] <Captains> p85snake: you here? [15:03:29] <Captains> anybody, who can help me in customizing Modern skin? [15:04:12] <CIA-58> 03ialex * r45638 10/branches/REL1_14/extensions/Configure/ (14 files): backport r45637 [15:10:51] <Captains> how is it possible to create a room for private wiki? [15:12:03] <Prom_cat> Captains: you mean an irc room? [15:12:20] <Captains> yeah [15:12:43] <Prom_cat> What do you want the room to be called? [15:13:24] <Captains> Voice of Pakistan [15:13:59] <Prom_cat> Captains join ##Voice-of-Pakistan [15:14:15] <Captains> ##Voice-of-Pakistan [15:14:21] <Captains> Oh I was kidding [15:14:25] <Captains> I hate Pak [15:14:36] <Captains> #Voice-of-Pakistan [15:14:54] <djds4rce> lol [15:15:01] <djds4rce> where u frm [15:15:04] <Captains> UAE [15:15:11] <djds4rce> iam from pakistan [15:15:17] <Prom_cat> Captains, I'm a busy person, Keep that in mind in future [15:15:20] <Captains> really [15:15:29] <Captains> i know [15:15:33] <Prom_cat> Especialy when you engage in time wasitng exercises. [15:15:38] <Captains> hahaha [15:16:00] <djds4rce> hehehehehe [15:16:05] <djds4rce> actually iam from indai [15:16:10] <djds4rce> india!!!!!!1 [15:16:14] <Captains> so? [15:16:22] <Captains> India suck [15:16:32] <Prom_cat> Captains: Dont troll in here [15:16:41] <Prom_cat> Or river will ban you in 10 seconds flat [15:16:43] <Captains> yeah sorry [15:16:55] <Captains> i m not trolling by the way [15:17:01] <Prom_cat> [01:46:19] <Captains> India suck [15:17:04] <Captains> we are adults so we can use this langu [15:17:07] <p858snake> <Captains> India suck <Thats trolling [15:17:17] <Captains> ok [15:17:19] <Captains> sorry [15:17:34] <Prom_cat> Captains: your in a public channel, there could be other indians around ;) [15:17:52] <Captains> k, i got [15:17:56] <Captains> now leave it please [15:17:56] <Prom_cat> gd gd [15:18:25] <Captains> djds4rce: whats the problem with you, why are you PMing me? [15:18:41] <Captains> if you have anything relting to version, talk here dammit [15:19:04] <djds4rce> errr [15:19:14] <djds4rce> i din man [15:20:06] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Add show/hide to Preferences for option on Special: NewPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16957 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (umherirrender_de.wp) [15:20:41] <Captains|Away> please dont distrub, I am going to busy with my wiki [15:20:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Show/hide bots/own edits from Recentchanges via preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7039 +comment (10umherirrender_de.wp) [15:20:52] <djds4rce> hey come on don abuse indai pls [15:20:53] <djds4rce> [20:47] <djds4rce> any ways whts the diffrenc in diffrent versions of wiki [15:20:53] <djds4rce> [20:47] <djds4rce> like 1.9.0 [15:20:53] <djds4rce> [20:47] <djds4rce> is 12 m b [15:20:53] <djds4rce> [20:47] <Captains> yah [15:20:53] <djds4rce> [20:47] <Captains> go ahead with it [15:20:55] <djds4rce> [20:47] <djds4rce> 1.13.3 is 35 duh [15:20:58] <djds4rce> ??? [15:21:07] <djds4rce> y is the diffrence??? [15:23:01] <Captains|Away> [20:51] <djds4rce> bastered [15:23:12] <Captains|Away> please kick him out, he is trolling me [15:23:15] <djds4rce> wht??? [15:23:16] <djds4rce> man [15:23:22] <djds4rce> come on don fake it [15:23:27] <djds4rce> i din even type tht [15:23:35] <Captains|Away> stop please [15:23:37] <Captains|Away> please [15:23:40] <Captains|Away> i am away [15:23:40] <djds4rce> y do u just make up tht message [15:23:51] <djds4rce> just some time back u trolled [15:23:59] <Captains|Away> [20:52] <djds4rce> sorry [15:24:20] <p858snake> what isn't said in this channel (ie: private messgaes) isn't a matter for this channels staff [15:24:34] <djds4rce> :P and tht guy is faking it [15:24:48] <p858snake> and i don't really care either way [15:25:32] <Captains|Away> djds4rce: i know how intelligent you are [15:25:44] <Captains|Away> now please stop doing it, i am busy with my wiki [15:25:48] <tty2> can someone help, i get the following error when i try to upload an image (and then view a smaller size of it): http://rafb.net/p/TWnYir73.html I tried running the command that is segfaulting directly as the apache user just to see if it was the convert command itself or not, and it didnt segfault. [15:25:49] <Captains|Away> let me work on it [15:26:22] <Captains|Away> [20:54] <djds4rce> fukk your wiki [15:26:38] <Prom_cat> Captains|Away, djds4rce: Both of you quit it [15:26:41] <MinuteElectron> Captains|Away: Please stop. [15:28:44] <Prom_cat> MinuteElectron: -o [15:28:56] <Captains|Away> thanks [15:29:05] <Captains|Away> I am in? [15:29:12] <tty2> any help would be appreciated [15:29:22] <Prom_cat> Its bad practive to remain opped to long ;) [15:29:24] <Captains|Away> yea [15:29:31] <Prom_cat> All the newbies will ask you for help first [15:29:34] <tty2> i run another older versionof media wiki on the same box and it doesnt segfault [15:29:35] <Prom_cat> lol [15:30:02] *Captains|Away is busy with his Wiki, [15:30:18] <Prom_cat> Captains|Away: Thats nice [15:30:24] <Prom_cat> Captains|Away: Less chat more work [15:31:03] <Captains|Away> Prom: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Writing_an_article#Starting_out , please see [15:31:26] <Captains|Away> how is it possible to add such starting article button? [15:32:15] <Prom_cat> Captains|Away: Add teh following to the page [15:32:19] <Prom_cat> <inputbox> [15:32:20] <Prom_cat> type=create [15:32:20] <Prom_cat> preload=Template:New_page [15:32:20] <Prom_cat> editintro=Template:New_article_intro [15:32:20] <Prom_cat> width=45 [15:32:20] <Prom_cat> </inputbox> [15:32:25] <ialex> !e InputBox | Captains|Away [15:32:25] --mwbot-- Captains|Away: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox [15:32:32] <Captains|Away> thanks [15:38:19] <Captains|Away> Prom: Done [15:38:51] <Prom_cat> Gd [15:39:21] <Prom_cat> Captains: where did you add it? [15:39:41] <Captains|Away> hold on [15:40:00] <Prom_cat> Captains|Away: You Pakistan or UAE ? [15:40:01] <Captains|Away> oh no [15:40:03] <Captains|Away> its not working [15:40:07] <Captains|Away> maybe I have to install extention [15:40:09] <Captains|Away> UAE [15:40:11] <Captains|Away> offcourse [15:40:34] <Captains|Away> you know WAHAB? [15:40:40] <Prom_cat> Yes? [15:40:53] <Captains|Away> I am his friend [15:41:04] <Captains|Away> Tayyeb [15:41:15] <Prom_cat> Really, I could sense the similarities before you even mentioned him :) [15:41:26] <Captains|Away> hahaha [15:41:41] <Captains|Away> actually he leave for JAPAN [15:42:06] <Prom_cat> You two are alike [15:42:10] <Prom_cat> thats for sure :) [15:42:17] <Prom_cat> How long have you known each other? [15:42:17] <Captains|Away> hahaha, whatever you say [15:42:22] <Captains|Away> i dont mind anyway [15:42:35] <Captains|Away> well, he is 19 and me 21 [15:43:03] <Captains|Away> he is basically from Pakistan but living here since when he born [15:43:16] <Captains|Away> k leave this rubbish [15:43:21] <Captains|Away> let me back to work :) [15:43:58] <Captains|Away> Prom: do i required to install this extention for enabling Input box? [15:44:11] <Prom_cat> Hold on [15:44:16] <Captains|Away> sure [15:44:18] <Prom_cat> what page do you want it on? [15:45:44] *Captains was Away but actually busy with Wiki, [15:46:47] <Captains> oh god, he is pming me [15:47:05] <Captains> Prom: I am talking about that nonsense guy from India [15:47:26] <^demon> If he's PMing you, block him on your IRC client. Channel ops can't do anything about that. [15:47:32] <p858snake> if you have a issue take it to #freenode [15:47:42] <Captains> let me [15:48:16] <Captains> ialex: you here? [15:48:30] <CIA-58> 03ashley * r45639 10/trunk/extensions/BoardVote/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) [15:48:30] <CIA-58> BoardVote cleanup: [15:48:30] <CIA-58> *addWikiText(wfMsg()) => addWikiMsg() whenever possible [15:48:30] <CIA-58> *remove php ending tag from voterList.php maintenance script [15:48:30] <CIA-58> *add authors per http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BoardVote [15:48:33] <CIA-58> *use database class functions instead of raw sql [15:48:35] <CIA-58> *double quotes => single quotes where possible [15:49:29] <ialex> Captains: yes [15:49:42] <tty2> can someone help, i get the following error when i try to upload an image (and then view a smaller size of it): http://rafb.net/p/TWnYir73.html I tried running the command that is segfaulting directly as the apache user just to see if it was the convert command itself or not, and it didnt segfault. [15:49:49] <tty2> i run another older versionof media wiki on the same box and it doesnt segfault [15:52:03] <Captains> ialex: I wanna install Inputbox extention [15:52:07] <Captains> can you please guide me? [15:52:33] <Captains> there are only 3 files to put in server, is it ok ? [15:54:14] <ialex> Captains: you can download a tarball from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/InputBox [15:54:45] <Captains> k [15:56:12] <CIA-58> 03shinjiman * r45640 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [15:56:17] <wikibugs> 06(LATER) Pontic Wikipedia has been approved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16955 +comment (10pathoschild+wmbugs) [15:57:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Pontic Wikipedia has been approved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16955 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10bretthillebrand) [15:57:45] <Captains> ialex: I cant fine it there [15:57:49] <Captains> find^ [15:58:00] <Captains> No such extension "InputBox" [16:00:17] <ialex> Captains: argh [16:00:33] <ialex> Captains: you'll need to download files manually [16:00:45] <Captains> done [16:01:01] <Captains> Prom_cat: Please check now [16:02:43] <Captains> ialex: what is file # 3? [16:04:37] <ialex> Captains: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/InputBox/InputBox.classes.php?view=co [16:10:59] <CIA-58> 03demon * r45641 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Update comments for $wgForeignFileRepos [16:13:56] <CIA-58> 03shinjiman * r45642 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [16:13:56] <CIA-58> * Fixing the caching issue by using -{T|xxx}- syntax (only applies on wiki with LanguageConverter class) [16:13:56] <CIA-58> * Improving the efficiency by using -{A|xxx}- syntax (only applies on wiki with LanguageConverter class) [16:13:56] <CIA-58> patches by PhiLiP [16:18:19] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) Pontic Wikipedia has been approved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16955 +comment (10Gerard.meijssen) [16:29:46] <tty2> can someone help, i get the following error when i try to upload an image (and then view a smaller size of it): http://rafb.net/p/TWnYir73.html I tried running the command that is segfaulting directly as the apache user just to see if it was the convert command itself or not, and it didnt segfault. i run another older versionof media wiki on the same box and it doesnt segfault [16:36:22] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Support for 404 trick for pretty URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16958 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (me.at.work) [16:44:02] <shadowie> is there any way to cache generated pages for logged in users? I've enabled $wgMainCacheType and set a memcacheserver etc, but pages don't generate any faster [16:44:10] <CIA-58> 03pinky * r45643 10/trunk/extensions/ContactPage/ContactPage.i18n.php: Fixing links in Basque (eu) translation. Links should not be translated, the wiki's content language might be something other than the user's display language! Also fixed a typo (s/catpcha/captcha/) [16:45:08] <shadowie> i thought "$wgParserCacheType = CACHE_MEMCACHED;" would cache all generated content and make it really fast for logged in users as well, but it has no effect o_O [16:48:03] <tty2> shadowie: maybe you dont have memcache installed [16:49:03] <shadowie> i do, and i can see medawiki accessing it when running it with -vv [16:49:29] <tty2> shadowie: then perhaps you just arent bottlenecking at your hard drives yet [16:51:21] <shadowie> hm, what i want (and thought mediawiki would do) is to cache the generated article contents and put that in memcache. so when another user accesses the same page he can just get it directly from memcache and I skip a bunch of mysql-queries etc [16:51:34] <CIA-58> 03raymond * r45644 10/trunk/extensions/BoardVote/BoardVote.i18n.php: Follow up r45639: change special page name to camelcase "BoardVote" from "Boardvote" for all languages [16:51:35] <shadowie> with article contents i mean only the article, not the surrounding ui [16:53:21] <tty2> can someone help, i get the following error when i try to upload an image (and then view a smaller size of it): http://rafb.net/p/TWnYir73.html I tried running the command that is segfaulting directly as the apache user just to see if it was the convert command itself or not, and it didnt segfault. i run another older versionof media wiki on the same box and it doesnt segfault [16:57:27] <mutante> tty2: ulimit segfaults? [16:57:55] <tty2> mutante: well it looks like convert is seg faulting during ulimit [16:58:08] <mutante> tried executing #!/bin/bash [16:58:09] <mutante> ulimit -t $1 -v $2 -f $3 [16:58:09] <mutante> eval "$4" [16:58:12] <mutante> directly? [16:58:27] <mutante> eh,i mean, what is inside ulimit4.sh [16:58:48] <tty2> mutante: nope [16:58:51] <tty2> let me see if i can [16:59:11] <mutante> hmm, it probably needs values for $1 $2 an $3 [16:59:55] <tty2> mutante: yes it does [17:00:00] <tty2> not sure what those should be [17:04:28] <mutante> hmmmm [17:04:29] <mutante> if ( $time > 0 && $mem > 0 ) { $script = "$IP/bin/ulimit4.sh"; [17:05:01] <tty2> mutante: where would you like me to add that? [17:05:30] <tty2> imnot sure why ulimit needs to get called a tall honestly [17:05:39] <tty2> the default values should work fine [17:05:47] <mutante> nowhere, i just found that in GlobalFunctions.php [17:06:01] <tty2> oh [17:06:05] <mutante> so that might be a way to turn it off completely [17:06:07] <mutante> if you change there [17:06:18] <tty2> im wondering if i cant just wipe out ulimit4.sh all together [17:06:22] <mutante> not sure what $time is compared to which "memory" here [17:06:31] <tty2> those are the values [17:06:33] <mutante> i wouldnt do that [17:06:40] <tty2> ulimit4.sh sets -t and -m [17:06:41] <mutante> prevent that it is being called [17:06:54] <tty2> aorry -v [17:06:58] <tty2> -v and -t [17:07:03] <tty2> for time and virtual memory [17:07:19] <tty2> so im guessing $time and $mem are the values to be fed into ulimit [17:08:07] <Nikerabbit> urgh [17:08:25] <CIA-58> 03shinjiman * r45645 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): fixing typo on Cantonese/Chinese loclisation, backport to REL_1_14 [17:09:51] <mutante> tty2: sorry, i dont know, not a developer [17:10:40] <tty2> mutante: :( [17:14:24] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Recent change unavailable, and other special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16940 +comment (10shinjiman) [17:14:37] <Captains|Away> I wanna replace Title name with Site name in Modern skin, somebody please help me ? [17:16:13] <Captains|Away> ialex: I have installed Extention:Inputbox but not working [17:16:37] <CIA-58> 03nikerabbit * r45646 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: * Reverting r45588, causes fatal errors when saving new sections [17:17:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Recent change unavailable, and other special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16940 (10shinjiman) [17:17:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special:RecentChanges on wuu.wikipedia redirects to Special: RecentChangedLinked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16944 (10shinjiman) [17:20:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Interwiki code for mzn wikipedia is wrong - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11457 +comment (10spacebirdy) [17:33:54] <Captainss> anybody here? [17:34:06] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) Make *.wap.wikipedia.org URLs redirect to *.mobile.wikipedia. org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16692 +comment (10danny.leinad) [17:34:48] <Captainss> i wanna know if by default, is there any folder or file located in IMAGES folder? [17:40:22] <Platonides> no [17:40:32] <Platonides> they are created by mediawiki as needed [17:40:54] <Captainss> yah I want to know whats are defult folder and files are? [17:41:41] <Captainss> i put several files on this folder by mistake and now I want to delete un necessary [17:43:47] <Captainss> Prom cat: you here? [17:44:30] <Captainss> Platonides: can you help me with customizing modern skin? [17:46:55] <tty2> Captainss: customizing skins for wiki are easy ... http://wiki.syncleus.com and http://www.cubicpath.com are two wikis i did custom skins on to match the look and feel of the rest of the site [18:01:55] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Image mistakenly included in paragraph anchor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16959 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (church.of.emacs.ml) [18:05:24] <aTrDarkStar> hello [18:12:28] <aTrDarkStar> does someone knows how to set up the image location so that the images are read from a folder instead of reading from various folder (ex images/1.15; images/b/32; etc) [18:13:45] <aTrDarkStar> I want the images to be in a single folder [18:14:43] <Captainss> Hey room! [18:15:18] <aTrDarkStar> hi [18:15:58] *Mr-Captain is new to MediaWiki [18:16:15] *aTrDarkStar is new to MediaWiki too [18:16:31] <Mr-Captain> aTrDarkStar: How can you help me Or How can I help you ? [18:16:44] <aTrDarkStar> Let's find out :D [18:16:56] <aTrDarkStar> there is one thing I cant' set up [18:17:02] <aTrDarkStar> can't [18:17:24] <Mr-Captain> what? [18:18:09] <aTrDarkStar> if I upload an image, it creates a bunch of new folders inside that images folder [18:18:13] <Mr-Captain> tell me, maybe I can help you. [18:18:23] <aTrDarkStar> can I set up mediawiki to read all images from a single folder [18:18:25] <aTrDarkStar> ? [18:18:48] <Mr-Captain> yeah, so? [18:18:56] <ashley> aTrDarkStar: set $wgHashedUploadDirectory = false; in your wiki's LocalSettings.php. see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgHashedUploadDirectory for more info [18:19:16] <Mr-Captain> no [18:19:34] <aTrDarkStar> my $wgUploadDirectory is "{$IP}/images"; [18:19:45] <Mr-Captain> oh yeah, your problem is solved [18:20:13] <Mr-Captain> not $wgUploadDirectory, We'r talking about $wgHashedUploadDirectory [18:21:18] <aTrDarkStar> so $wgHashedUploadDirectory needs to be false or true? [18:21:46] <Mr-Captain> Set it to false [18:23:00] <aTrDarkStar> it's false now [18:23:10] <Mr-Captain> ok, [18:23:49] <Mr-Captain> aTrDarkStar: I wanna help regarding customizing Modern skin? [18:24:06] <djds4rce> getting an error message after insatallation don know wht to do help java2c.freehostia.com [18:24:10] <Mr-Captain> !inputbox [18:24:10] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Inputbox [18:24:58] <Mr-Captain> Mr-Captain: [18:25:07] <aTrDarkStar> html input boxes in wiki is a great idea for extending wiki [18:26:09] <Mr-Captain> aTrDarkStar: What about your Wiki project? [18:26:30] <CIA-58> 03dale * r45647 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (3 files in 2 dirs): stubs for add_media_wizard upload page rewrite for firefogg support [18:30:08] <Mr-Captains> What I missed? [18:31:13] <Mr-Captains> aTrDarkStar: you there? [18:34:06] <Mr-Captains> ialex: you there? [18:35:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Review log entries should be sent to RC/IRC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16896 (10matthew.britton) [18:35:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) RC IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16599 (10matthew.britton) [18:36:01] <djds4rce> getting an error message after insatallation don know wht to do help java2c.freehostia.com [18:41:09] *Mr-Captain Welcome Prom_cat [18:41:14] <Prom_cat> hi [18:41:20] <Mr-Captain> yes, How are you? [18:41:28] <Prom_cat> busy as always [18:41:37] <Mr-Captain> Prom_cat: I want to know your name [18:42:01] <Mr-Captain> ok :) [18:42:03] <Prom_cat> Shoudnt be that hard, sherlock homes would already know it [18:42:22] <Prom_cat> Ill give you a hint, Whois me :) [18:42:48] <Mr-Captain> Hillebrand Brett [18:42:55] <Mr-Captain> First name : Brett [18:43:00] <Mr-Captain> gd name [18:43:10] <Prom_cat> Shh, dont say that too loud, its not like i want everyone to know it ;) [18:43:26] <Prom_cat> Why thanks [18:43:30] <Prom_cat> Whats your name? [18:43:34] <Mr-Captain> Prom_cat: I wana put newly created articles on a particular page [18:43:40] <Mr-Captain> I told you before:O [18:44:02] *Mr-Captain wanna say Thanks for everyone [18:44:05] <Prom_cat> I thought ialex was helping you [18:44:13] <Mr-Captain> nobody was [18:44:21] <Mr-Captain> me Tayyeb [18:44:24] <Prom_cat> Oh well you better complain [18:44:27] <Prom_cat> thats not good enough [18:46:53] <Prom_cat> I knoe [18:46:53] <Prom_cat> know56 [18:46:53] <Prom_cat> argh [18:46:53] <Prom_cat> ^know [18:46:53] <chuck> I'm having troubles with $wgConf [18:46:53] <chuck> For some reason, Safari says stuff like "can't find the server" after I try logging in or making an edit [18:46:53] <Mr-Captain> just like, see this: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Newsroom [18:46:53] <Prom_cat> Mr-Captain: Complain to MinuteElectron about the poor service [18:46:53] <Prom_cat> Im sure he wants to hear about it [18:46:53] <Prom_cat> Dont you MinuteElectron [18:46:53] <Prom_cat> :) [18:46:53] <MinuteElectron> What? [18:46:57] <MinuteElectron> Not really. =] [18:47:57] <Prom_cat> MinuteElectron: Oh but you do, Mr-Captain is a VIP [18:48:09] <MinuteElectron> Well, we can't be doing with this then. [18:48:21] *Mr-Captain deserves to be as VIP guest [18:48:43] <Prom_cat> Oh you will get 5 star service from now on [18:48:48] <Prom_cat> I can garuntee it [18:49:07] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) API needs an easier way to get section numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16276 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [18:49:10] <Prom_cat> Anyhow [18:49:10] <Mr-Captain> MinuteElectron: hi :D [18:49:16] <MinuteElectron> hello [18:49:33] <Mr-Captain> I wana put newly created articles on a particular page, just like, see this: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Newsroom [18:49:48] <Mr-Captain> thanks Prom_cat: [18:49:55] <Prom_cat> your welcome [18:49:57] <Prom_cat> say [18:50:00] <Prom_cat> i gotta go [18:50:03] <Prom_cat> bye :) [18:50:11] <Prom_cat> MinuteElectron: You look after him mmk? [18:50:15] <MinuteElectron> ok [18:50:52] <ganeshjacharya> how can i protect complete website at once, in case of a major vandalism [18:51:00] <chuck> Mr-Captain: it looks like they manually maintain that list [18:51:00] <Mr-Captain> Minute: So, how can you help me in this? [18:51:13] <Mr-Captain> ganesh: Just protect your main pages [18:51:15] <chuck> oh, no [18:51:18] <chuck> Mr-Captain: they're using Dynamic Page List [18:51:20] <Mr-Captain> and keep deleting user edits [18:51:36] <chuck> ganeshjacharya: They're an extension that will let you lock the entire site [18:51:50] <ganeshjacharya> can u pls give me the link [18:51:50] <Mr-Captain> chuck: really, tell me please [18:51:51] <chuck> ganeshjacharya: You can also append this to your LocalSettings.php file: $wgReadOnly = "Some message goes here"; [18:51:58] <MinuteElectron> Mr-Captain: {{Special:NewPages}} on the page. [18:52:25] <MinuteElectron> oh right, no, DPL - whatever [18:52:32] <Mr-Captain> Minute: Pardon [18:52:40] <Mr-Captain> I didnt get you [18:52:57] <MinuteElectron> nevermind [18:53:04] <MinuteElectron> !e DynamicPageList [18:53:04] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList [18:53:17] <Mr-Captain> k [18:53:27] <chuck> hey prom3th3an :P [18:53:41] <Mr-Captain> Prom_cat is off-line [18:53:46] <chuck> Hades5109 is prom3th3an [18:54:02] <Hades5109> wha? [18:54:12] <Mr-Captain> Hades: Are you Brett? [18:54:18] <Hades5109> wtf is promethan? [18:54:36] <chuck> Hades5109: my mistake, I assumed you where prom3th3an, considering your nickname is the name of his server, and you share his hostname [18:54:42] <chuck> s/where/were/ [18:54:54] <Mr-Captain> chuck: :D [18:55:18] <Mr-Captain> Minute: Can you help with cutomizing Modern skin please [18:55:39] <Mr-Captain> I wanna replace Page title with Site name [18:56:11] <chuck> Mr-Captain: you could use javascript to do that [18:56:27] <Mr-Captain> but how? [18:57:08] <chuck> oh, maybe not [18:57:16] <chuck> why isn't the sitename in a javascript variable :< [18:57:53] <Mr-Captain> how is it possible ? [18:58:07] <chuck> Mr-Captain: well, if you want it to be manual, add this to MediaWiki:Modern.js: document.findElementById('firstHeading').innerHTML = "Text you want to show"; [18:58:36] <Mr-Captain> I wanna replance Page title with site name and put the Page title on page text area [18:58:57] <Mr-Captain> at the end of file? [18:59:08] <chuck> yeah [18:59:23] <chuck> moving the page title to the text area might be a tad harder, but probably possible [18:59:24] <Mr-Captain> let me try [18:59:27] <Mr-Captain> lmt [18:59:35] <Mr-Captain> please [19:00:01] <ganeshjacharya> thanks chuck that worked [19:00:13] <Mr-Captain> chuck is gr8 [19:00:47] <Hades5109> Where would we be without chuck [19:02:16] <aTrDarkStar|> hmmm I wonder where is this &wpDestFile looking for files? [19:03:28] <Mr-Captain> chuck: Nothing happened. [19:03:54] <Mr-Captain> I just paste the code document.findElementById('firstHeading').innerHTML = "Text you want to show"; in MediaWiki:Modern.js but nothing hapened [19:05:33] *chuck takes a look [19:05:41] <chuck> maybe it's getElementById [19:05:58] <chuck> yeah, it's document.getElementById [19:06:01] <chuck> so change "find" to "get" [19:06:16] <chuck> Mr-Captain: which wiki is this on? [19:07:06] <chuck> Mr-Captain: which wiki is this on? [19:07:09] <Mr-Captains> I was disconnect [19:07:12] <Mr-Captains> What I missed? [19:07:14] <Mr-Captains> I just paste the code document.findElementById('firstHeading').innerHTML = "Text you want to show"; in MediaWiki:Modern.js but nothing hapened [19:07:27] <Mr-Captains> Modern skin [19:07:28] <aTrDarkStar|> <chuck> maybe it's getElementById [19:07:29] <aTrDarkStar|> <chuck> yeah, it's document.getElementById [19:07:29] <aTrDarkStar|> <chuck> so change "find" to "get" [19:07:29] <aTrDarkStar|> <chuck> Mr-Captain: which wiki is this on? [19:07:32] <Mr-Captains> oh Wiki [19:08:00] <Mr-Captains> Wiki? are you talking about URL? [19:08:08] <chuck> yeah [19:08:58] <Mr-Captains> in PM [19:10:32] <Mr-Captain> Dammit Internet connection :) [19:10:42] <Mr-Captain> chuck: I do it [19:10:54] <aTrDarkStar|> you have problems with your internet connection too? [19:11:22] <Mr-Captain> yeah [19:11:25] <chuck> Anyone here good with wgConf [19:11:53] <Mr-Captain> I am in UAE and using Intenet based in Pakistan via Setallite :D [19:12:35] <Mr-Captain> chuck: any goodluck? [19:14:05] <aTrDarkStar> hmmm... http://mywebsite.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=img13002.png... where does it reads the images? [19:15:23] <Mr-Captain> chuck: 1. your code is not working, [19:15:54] <Mr-Captain> Minute: Can you help me? [19:16:02] <MinuteElectron> no [19:16:09] <Mr-Captain> ops [19:17:55] <Mr-Captain> Rdsmith4: Are you Mr Smith from Ireland? [19:18:28] <Rdsmith4> No, I'm afraid not. :-) [19:18:34] <Mr-Captain> who asked me for Installation for software yesterday [19:18:55] <aTrDarkStar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WikEd_screenshot.png [19:18:57] <Mr-Captain> of^ [19:18:59] <aTrDarkStar> sweet stuff xD [19:19:55] <chuck> Mr-Captain: Should be working, I can't really tell though, you're not telling me the URL. [19:21:36] <Mr-Captain> I PM you already [19:21:53] <chuck> no, you didn't [19:22:05] <Mr-Captain> now, [19:23:11] <Mr-Captain> chuck: fine [19:24:52] <aTrDarkStar> I don't have any js files in styles folder [19:26:01] <Mr-Captain> chuck: I did it [19:26:23] <chuck> no you didn't [19:26:31] <chuck> there it goes [19:26:36] <Mr-Captain> i did my dear [19:27:13] <chuck> one sec [19:27:17] <Jhs> hei dittaeva [19:27:26] <Jhs> sjelden person å se... [19:27:32] <Jhs> join #wikipedia-no også da... ;) [19:27:39] <Mr-Captain> what is this? [19:27:46] <Mr-Captain> which language you are using here? [19:27:47] <chuck> Mr-Captain: okay, one sec, i'll tell you what you need to add [19:27:54] <Mr-Captain> ok chuck [19:28:06] <Jhs> Mr-Captain, Norwegian ;) [19:28:14] <Mr-Captain> please dont it here [19:28:28] <Mr-Captain> use^ [19:28:34] <Jhs> hrmpfh [19:28:46] <chuck> Mr-Captain: okay, change the text in MediaWiki:Modern.js to this: http://pastie.org/357459 [19:29:04] <Hades5109> Jhs: Nok [19:29:43] <Jhs> :) [19:29:49] <Mr-Captain> lmt [19:29:53] <chuck> Hades5109: go to sleep! :P [19:30:29] <Hades5109> plato: Pendiente [19:30:49] <Hades5109> lol [19:31:48] <Mr-Captain> chuck: done [19:32:04] <chuck> looks like that part works =) [19:32:52] <Mr-Captain> nop [19:32:55] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) link [[Special:Categories|category]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16960 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (jidanni) [19:34:28] <CIA-58> 03shinjiman * r45648 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: follow up of r45642, only set page title when it is not on the special namespace [19:34:41] <chuck> Mr-Captain: refresh you cache, it worked... [19:35:10] <chuck> Mr-Captain: that code doesn't have the page title [19:35:13] <Mr-Captain> yahh [19:35:17] <Mr-Captain> oh shit [19:35:20] <chuck> Mr-Captain: change the text in [[MediaWiki:Modern.js]] with this now: http://pastie.org/357467 [19:35:55] <Mr-Captain> lmt [19:38:40] <aTrDarkStar> http://localhost/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [19:39:00] <aTrDarkStar> how can I make it to be like .../wiki/Main_Page [19:39:08] <aTrDarkStar> like in Wikipedia.org [19:39:33] <Pinky> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [19:40:40] <chuck> Mr-Captain: oh, typo [19:40:47] <chuck> Mr-Captain: change innnerHTML to innerHTML [19:40:52] <chuck> (one less 'n') [19:41:23] <CIA-58> 03ialex * r45649 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: Fix for r45648: only change page title if it's not an empty string (which is the default value) [19:42:07] <Mr-Captains> chuck: you there? [19:42:14] <Mr-Captains> I was disconnected again [19:42:36] <chuck> 14:40:48 < chuck> Mr-Captain: change innnerHTML to innerHTML [19:42:37] <chuck> 14:40:53 < chuck> (one less 'n') [19:43:17] <Mr-Captains> ok [19:43:20] <Mr-Captains> lmt [19:43:50] <Mr-Captains> dont it [19:43:54] <Mr-Captains> done it^ [19:44:33] <chuck> still errors... hrm [19:44:36] <Mr-Captains> chuck: what is difference between this code and the code you give me before? [19:44:43] <Mr-Captains> yeah errors :) [19:44:44] <chuck> oh, woops [19:44:52] <chuck> okay one sec [19:44:57] <Mr-Captains> yes [19:45:37] <Mr-Captains> Pathos: HI [19:45:43] <Mr-Captains> How may I help you? [19:45:50] <Pathoschild> Hello. [19:46:00] <Pathoschild> I don't need help. :) [19:46:23] <Mr-Captains> ok, then help us :D [19:46:31] <Pathoschild> What with? [19:46:35] <chuck> okay, finally it works [19:46:41] <Mr-Captains> with.... hhmmm [19:46:47] <Mr-Captains> let me check, with what i need :D [19:46:53] <chuck> http://pastie.org/357478 [19:46:55] <Mr-Captains> chuck: ? [19:47:00] <Mr-Captains> lmt [19:47:07] <chuck> it doesn't look perfect, but you can play with it a bit [19:47:53] <Mr-Captains> lmc :) [19:48:47] *Mr-Captains Dictionary: 1. LMT:Let me try, 2.LMC: Let me check [19:49:06] <chuck> is it really that hard to just type the words out? :P [19:49:08] <chuck> @help [19:49:26] <Mr-Captains> chuck: so nice of you, thank [19:49:35] <chuck> @search .*chat.* [19:49:35] --mwbot-- Results: [] [19:49:37] <Mr-Captains> i know [19:50:25] <Mr-Captains> chuck: text size of Page title is soo big :) [19:50:44] <Mr-Captains> but no problem , i will go with what i get [19:51:23] <chuck> learn javascript and HTML [19:51:37] <chuck> you can change the <h1> part to <h3> (and same with the end tags, </h1> or </h3>) [19:51:55] <chuck> or even <big> </big> [19:52:22] <Mr-Captains> yah i doing myself [19:52:24] <Mr-Captains> i got [19:52:45] <Mr-Captains> thanks alot [19:54:37] *Mr-Captains welcomes 1.Skizzer 2. Raymond 3. FunPika [19:55:15] <Mr-Captains> :O ? [19:55:39] <Mr-Captains> soo many users quit at a time? [19:56:30] <Pathoschild> Mr-Captain: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [19:57:16] <Mr-Captains> oh i see [19:57:18] <Mr-Captains> thanks for info. [19:57:30] <Pathoschild> Welcome. [19:59:50] <Mr-Captains> Pathos: can you help me? [20:00:04] <Pathoschild> What with? [20:00:18] <Mr-Captains> i wanna use ombox and other message boxes on my wiki [20:00:29] <Mr-Captains> i've imbox already installed but not others [20:00:43] <Mr-Captains> i've tried many times but they not word [20:00:46] <Mr-Captains> i've tried many times but they not work^ [20:00:57] <Pathoschild> Did you copy the CSS and nested templates? [20:01:32] <Mr-Captains> i've imbox already installed but not others, [20:01:43] <Mr-Captains> and its working [20:02:14] <Pathoschild> We should really have a guide for this, it's a very common question... [20:02:41] *Pathoschild writes one. [20:03:48] <aTrDarkStar> index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=img2302.png; how to find out where it reads the images? [20:03:50] *Mr-Captains waiting for Pathoschild to write [20:08:09] <Mr-Captains> Pathos: you write? [20:08:18] <Pathoschild> Yep. [20:10:20] <Mr-Captains> so, i am waiting for your help :) [20:11:00] <CIA-58> 03rotem * r45650 10/trunk/extensions/BoardVote/BoardVote.php: Fix syntax error. [20:11:28] <CIA-58> 03raymond * r45651 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Wrap 'searchresulttext' into a div with class [20:12:28] <Mr-Captains> Pathos: would you like to share with me? [20:12:40] <Pathoschild> I'll link you to it when I'm done. [20:13:55] <Mr-Captains> ok [20:15:11] <Mr-Captains> chuck: I thnk default Modern skin comes with MediaWiki should be looklike what we created [20:15:37] <Pathoschild> Mr-Captains: See if you missed any of these steps: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates#Copying_from_one_wiki_to_another [20:16:10] <chuck> Mr-Captains: post a bug on bugzilla.wikimedia.org, maybe others will agree [20:16:43] <Mr-Captains> chuck: I tried to hide Main page title using Common.css by putting body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display:none; } [20:16:47] <Mr-Captains> but nothing happened [20:16:52] <Mr-Captains> sure, i'll [20:19:31] <Mr-Captains> Pathos: Well, I can create templates using Imbox and it work properly because Template:Imbox is insallted on my wiki [20:20:01] <Mr-Captains> but I;ve problem with templates that using Templte:ambox [20:20:10] <Pathoschild> Link? [20:20:21] <Mr-Captains> to where? [20:20:56] <Pathoschild> To a page on your wiki demonstrating the problem. [20:21:08] <Mr-Captains> chuck: I tried to hide Main page title using Common.css by putting body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display:none; } but nothing happenned, what you comment ? [20:21:14] <Mr-Captains> k [20:22:31] <Mr-Captains> URL in PM [20:23:04] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on he.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14648 +comment (10dovijacobs) [20:26:01] <nn123645> is there anyway to change the number of diffs in the RSS recent changes feed to be greater than 50? [20:30:38] <Mr-Captain> What i missed? [20:32:50] <Mr-Captain> chuck: you there? [20:34:08] *Mr-Captain wanna talk with Chuck [20:34:32] <S-i-A> hi [20:34:54] <Mr-Captain> SIA: Hello [20:35:10] <S-i-A> can i dispaly "All page" titles in Start Page(including)? [20:36:35] <Mr-Captain> I didnt get you [20:37:32] <Mr-Captain> you wanna put Text "ALL PAGE" on main page? [20:40:15] <Mr-Captain> Patho: its working now properly [20:40:17] <Mr-Captain> thanks again [20:46:21] <S-i-A> Mr-Captain: yes [20:46:56] <Mr-Captain> what SIA? [20:47:38] <S-i-A> <Mr-Captain> you wanna put Text "ALL PAGE" on main page? [20:48:08] <Mr-Captain> oh [20:48:15] <Mr-Captain> which skin are you using? [20:48:55] <Mr-Captain> SIA: Are you using Monobook? [20:49:01] <S-i-A> yes [20:49:12] <Mr-Captain> Add the following to the MediaWiki:Monobook.css [20:49:18] <Mr-Captain> body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display:none; } [20:49:45] <S-i-A> that is CSS, waht have to do with website including? [20:51:00] <Mr-Captain> URL please [20:52:20] <S-i-A> Mr-Captain: thanks [20:52:34] <Mr-Captain> its worked? [20:52:54] <Mr-Captain> no problem :D [20:53:35] <Mr-Captain> SIA: Is it ok ? [20:53:48] <S-i-A> not worked and you have no idea, OK thanks and let me! [20:54:00] <Mr-Captain> :O [20:54:14] *Mr-Captain wants to help other [20:55:29] <Mr-Captain> Patho: Is there any way to see users,who signup on wiki site? [20:55:33] <S-i-A> before you help others, learn it self, what is CSS and what is include in PHP is. [20:57:03] <Mr-Captain> Phatoschild: There's a problem [21:01:17] <Mr-Captains> chuck: you there? [21:01:35] <Prodego> Mr-Captain: yes there is [21:01:44] <Prodego> (a way to see users that sign up) [21:01:53] <Prodego> that would be the new user log [21:01:55] <Mr-Captains> how? [21:02:02] <Mr-Captains> oh yea [21:02:07] <Mr-Captains> i heared about that [21:02:09] <Prodego> available both as an extension, and integrated in the latest MW [21:02:18] <Mr-Captains> ok [21:03:09] <Mr-Captains> where can i find this log> [21:03:20] <Mr-Captains> Hi: No1Viking [21:03:24] <nn123645> Special:log/newusers [21:03:38] <Mr-Captains> oh [21:03:49] <No1Viking> Mr-Captain, helo [21:05:27] *Mr-Captains wanna know what kind of project mostly users try to start with using MediaWiki software [21:05:58] *Mr-Captains wanna know what kind of project mostly users try to start with using MediaWiki software [21:06:02] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on he.wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14648 (10dovijacobs) [21:07:26] <No1Viking> Mr-Captains, http://ubuntu.se/wiki/Huvudsida [21:07:50] <Mr-Captains> what is interface text? [21:08:35] <Mr-Captains> !interface [21:08:35] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "interface". You might try: !charinsert !sidebar !smtp [21:08:53] <Prodego> Mr-Captains: all the mediawiki pages [21:09:02] <Prodego> see Special:Allmessages [21:09:12] <Mr-Captains> !namespace [21:09:12] --mwbot-- For help with understanding and manipulating namespaces, please consult <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Namespace>. See also !extranamespace [21:22:54] <Fenyx> G'afternoon. [21:24:10] <Mr-Captains> Fenyx: Yeah [21:24:13] <Mr-Captains> How can I help you? [21:28:21] <Mr-Captains> chuck:Prom_cat:Minute: Anybody here? [21:28:28] <Fenyx> I used an {{#if: ||}} in a different wiki. Is that standard to mediawiki? I'm trying to get it to work in my own and I can't get it to work. [21:28:48] <Mike_lifeguard> Fenyx: Requires parserfunctions extension [21:28:48] <chuck> Mr-Captains: I'm busy atm [21:28:53] <chuck> hey ashley [21:29:02] <Fenyx> Mike_lifeguard: Thanks! [21:29:26] <Mike_lifeguard> np [21:29:34] <Mr-Captains> ok chuck [21:29:35] <chuck> Why aren't ParserFunctions included in MediaWiki [21:29:46] <Mr-Captains> well, coming in next version :) [21:30:24] <Mike_lifeguard> chuck: I don't know. I always thought that would be an obviously good thing to do, but Tim vetoed it when someone wanted to merge it into core software. [21:30:28] <MrZ-man> http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=216988&oldid=216966 [21:30:32] <Mike_lifeguard> I don't think he gave a reason that I ever saw :) [21:31:00] <chuck> Mr-Captains: that's strange [21:31:07] <Mr-Captains> what? [21:31:16] <Mr-Captains> maybe , i heared [21:31:33] <Mr-Captains> Mike: Can you help me in Short URLS [21:31:35] <chuck> oops [21:31:38] <chuck> sorry, I meant MrZ-man [21:31:47] <Mr-Captains> its little difficult to do it [21:32:04] <Mr-Captains> np [21:35:16] <Mr-Captains> !forcepreview [21:35:16] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "forcepreview". [21:35:39] <Mr-Captains> i heared something about force preview [21:57:07] <CIA-58> 03aaron * r45652 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Bump to a year [22:04:56] <Mr-Captain> Hey room! [22:04:56] <Mr-Captain> I need help regarding Short URLS [22:04:56] <Marybelle> !shorturl | Mr-Captain [22:04:56] --mwbot-- Mr-Captain: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [22:04:56] <Mr-Captain> Marybelle :oh no [22:04:57] <Marybelle> Where's the damn bot? [22:05:19] *MrZ-man kicks mwbot [22:05:38] *Marybelle pets mwbot [22:05:44] <Mr-Captain> MrZ: its difficult [22:07:04] <Mr-Captain> is it ok to start from : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Setup_steps ? [22:07:14] <Marybelle> Should be. [22:07:24] <CIA-58> 03aaron * r45653 10/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php: Just use != here [22:07:38] <Mr-Captain> ok [22:08:23] <Mr-Captain> where I can fine httpd.conf ? [22:10:26] <Reedy> depends on your os and such [22:10:54] <Mr-Captain> OS = Windows [22:11:32] <atglenn> oh dear [22:12:05] <Reedy> in a conf folder in your apache folder IIRC [22:12:21] <antitab> has anyone else had massive problems with spambots flooding pages with jibberish and weird links? [22:12:39] <antitab> my site's not even that popular [22:12:59] <Reedy> if it gets google crawled i suspect it'll b easily targetted as a MW wiki [22:14:48] <Mr-Captain> Reedy: Where can i find apache folder? [22:15:00] <Reedy> Mr-Captain, did you install apache yourself? [22:15:20] <Mr-Captain> i dont know about that , but I can see Apache handler on my control panel [22:16:57] <Reedy> you need the install folder... [22:16:57] <Reedy> C:\www C:\apache C:\apache2 C:\Program Files\Apache ? [22:17:15] <Mr-Captain> Reedy: I am confused [22:17:44] <Reedy> Im suggesting Apache install locations (where the files might be on the server) [22:18:33] <Sidearm> Is it possible to interwiki-link special pages? [22:19:09] <Mike_lifeguard> Sidearm: you mean like [[commons:Special:ListUsers]]? [22:19:10] <Mike_lifeguard> yes [22:19:15] <Reedy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Special:Version [22:19:18] <Reedy> yeah, it works [22:19:18] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Activate watchcreations on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16961 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (chrisipk) [22:19:25] <Sidearm> I mean [22:19:33] <Sidearm> On custom wikis [22:19:42] <Reedy> same way, setup your interwiki tables [22:19:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Activate watchcreations on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16961 -easy -need-review -patch +shell (10raimond.spekking) [22:20:00] <Sidearm> They are [22:20:04] <Sidearm> No such links show [22:20:12] <Sidearm> And you can't edit the special pages :) [22:20:17] <Reedy> aye [22:20:18] <Reedy> yeah, it'll IW the page [22:20:30] <Reedy> [[:de:Special:Version]] to show a link on a page [22:20:46] <Sidearm> You seem to miss my point? [22:20:50] <Sidearm> You can't edit special pages [22:20:52] <Duesentrieb_> neat: http://websequencediagrams.com/ [22:20:57] <Sidearm> Thus you can't add that to the source [22:20:58] <Sidearm> .. [22:20:59] <Skizzerz_Away> Sidearm: that's kinda the point of them [22:21:09] <Reedy> Why would you want/need to? [22:21:11] <Skizzerz_Away> you can edit bits and pieces of them via MediaWiki: messages [22:21:22] <Reedy> oh, you want to ADD to your special pages? [22:21:26] <Sidearm> Yes [22:21:27] <Skizzerz_Away> but the whole point of special pages is that they are "special" and as such aren't editable [22:21:34] <Sidearm> I know... :p [22:21:45] <Sidearm> Why do you think I come here? Because it's so easy? [22:21:46] <Sidearm> :p [22:21:51] <Skizzerz_Away> on that note, find some text on that page, then go to Special:AllMessages and search for it [22:22:14] <Skizzerz_Away> then, edit the MediaWiki: namespace message that it links to on Special:AllMessages and you'll be able to edit that text for that special page [22:23:26] <Splarka> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges <div id="p-lang" class="portlet"> [22:23:33] <Splarka> (hax) [22:24:01] <Splarka> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Recentchangestext <- [22:24:04] <Mr-Captain> Reedy: is there any other way? [22:24:13] <Reedy> Look in the registry? ;P [22:24:28] <Reedy> Look in program files, there should be apache entries? [22:25:17] <Mr-Captain> i dont know what are you talking about :( [22:25:26] <Mr-Captain> are you talking about Web root ? [22:25:52] <Reedy> you asked where the conf would be [22:26:33] <Mr-Captain> yah [22:26:36] <Mr-Captain> but i dont know wher [22:27:10] <Reedy> search the hard drive for httpd.conf ? [22:27:44] <Mr-Captain> Access Web Disk [22:28:45] <Mr-Captain> no item found [22:29:18] <Sidearm> Workiking, Skizzerz_Away, thanks [22:29:21] <Sidearm> working* [22:41:05] <Sidearm> Btw [22:41:18] <Sidearm> Is there an extension that allows a global notify on userpage edit? [22:44:41] <Mr-Captain> Reedy: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Shared_hosting [22:49:12] <CIA-58> 03purodha * r45654 10/trunk/extensions/Maintenance/ (Maintenance.i18n.php Maintenance_body.php): PLURAL added to message Maintenance-revdelete [22:50:36] <Mr-Captain> Reedy: you there? [23:05:59] <auzigog> would anyone be able to point me to a reference for running the mediawiki engine outside of an extension? I'm basically trying to use the API without making an HTTP request. [23:06:57] <Simetrical> auzigog, what do you mean "running the MediaWiki engine outside of an extension"? [23:07:40] <Mr-Captain> How do I remove the "Talk for this IP" link at the top right ? [23:08:04] <auzigog> well... i have a php class on the same server as a mediawiki installation. how would i go about getting information from mediawiki that doesn't involve an HTTP call. like making an instance of the API or medaiwki classes for internal use. [23:08:59] <Simetrical> Mr-Captain, you'd have to edit the skin. [23:09:16] <Simetrical> auzigog, not sure, sorry. [23:09:51] <auzigog> Okay. Thanks anyways. i think i'll have to poke around in the code because i can't imagine that any documentation would exist for doing something like this [23:11:15] <Mr-Captain> Simetrical: what abou this :http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_remove_the_.22Talk_for_this_IP.22_link_at_the_top_right_when_.24wgDisableAnonTalk_is_true.3F [23:11:19] <Mr-Captain> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_remove_the_.22Talk_for_this_IP.22_link_at_the_top_right_when_.24wgDisableAnonTalk_is_true.3F [23:13:58] <Mr-Captain> Simetrical: How's it possible by editting skin? [23:14:26] <Simetrical> !skin | Mr-Captain [23:14:26] --mwbot-- Mr-Captain: Overview: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Skins>. Gallery of CSS styles: <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles>. Writing your own: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning> [23:14:36] <Simetrical> It's not straightforward. [23:14:48] <Simetrical> Or recommended, really. [23:14:49] <CIA-58> 03purodha * r45655 10/trunk/extensions/DeleteQueue/DeleteQueue.i18n.php: link anchor correction in message [23:18:27] <Mr-Captain> Simetrical: You own private Wiki site? [23:19:29] *Mr-Captain wanna know which type of Wiki sites are created by using MediaWiki software [23:19:32] <Simetrical> Mr-Captain, I'm a MediaWiki developer. I also run a couple of wikis myself. [23:19:45] <Mr-Captain> can I have thiers URL's please [23:19:47] <Simetrical> I administer http://www.twcenter.net/wiki/ and http://tech-artists.org/wiki/. [23:19:54] <Mr-Captain> If you dont mind, [23:20:40] <Mr-Captain> Does MediaWiki pay you something for that ? [23:21:09] <Simetrical> No. [23:21:20] <Mr-Captain> wow [23:21:30] <Simetrical> I might be able to get a job as a contractor if I was interested (or maybe not), but I'm not interested. [23:21:30] <Mr-Captain> you design these main pages? [23:21:36] <Simetrical> No, I didn't design the main pages. [23:21:42] <Mr-Captain> then who? [23:21:54] <Simetrical> Some other people. I don't know, it's a wiki. Check the page histories. [23:22:13] <Mr-Captain> oh [23:22:27] <Mr-Captain> actually I want to design my main page but i dont have knowledge [23:22:47] <Mr-Captain> can you give me some urls to wiki site having simple main pages design [23:22:54] <Duesentrieb_> Mr-Captain: for designing your main page, you need to know a bit of html and css [23:23:04] <Mr-Captain> ok [23:23:14] <Mr-Captain> is it possible to do it in Adobe Dreamweaver? [23:23:27] <Simetrical> Not easily. [23:23:30] <Duesentrieb_> not directly [23:23:45] <Duesentrieb_> well, you can do a page mockup with reamweaver, and then extract what you need [23:23:52] <Duesentrieb_> simple with the html, no so simple with the css [23:24:10] <Mr-Captain> ok [23:24:47] <Mr-Captain> is thier any software availble for designing, which can read Wikitext :D [23:24:59] <Duesentrieb_> no. [23:25:06] <Mr-Captain> Duesentrieb: Can i have your wiki site :D [23:25:20] <Mr-Captain> dont be scared, I am not a Troller [23:25:20] <Duesentrieb_> http://brightbyte.de [23:25:25] <Duesentrieb_> but it uses a custom skin [23:25:27] <Mr-Captain> thanks [23:25:48] <Mr-Captain> and can I have other's please? [23:26:04] <Mr-Captain> Duesentrieb: let me check [23:26:04] <Duesentrieb_> and it's not a realy wiki anyway :) well, it's mediawiki, but it's locked down. i abuse it as a cms. which is not recommended. unless you are a mediawiki hacker :P [23:26:27] <Mr-Captain> ok [23:26:59] <Mr-Captain> too complicated to get source [23:59:06] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Provide an interwiki prefix for "Complete list" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16962 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (rememberthedot)