[00:00:32] 03(mod) Rollback on es-wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16975 +comment (10brion) [00:03:59] ooh O_O [00:05:26] hello I'm playing with an ajax rating script unfortunately it appears on every page... [00:05:44] brion, how are the assignments done? [00:05:50] the code writer left a cryptic message saying ... Yes you can. Edit RateArticle.php and change the line (~44) that looks like this: [00:05:50] if ($wgArticle->getTitle()->mNamespace != 0) return $out; [00:05:50] You can make the logic whatever you like. You can have it only apply to pages in a specific namespace like this: [00:05:50] $myImportantNamespace = 102; [00:05:50] if ($wgArticle->getTitle()->getNamespace() != $myImportantNamespace) return $out; [00:05:53] Or you can make it match a specific set of titles like this: [00:05:55] $pagesToRate = array('Main Page', 'My Page 1', 'Sandbox'); [00:05:57] if (!in_array($wgArticle->getTitle()->getText(), $pagesToRate)) return $out; [00:06:31] can anybody think of a logic that would exclude main page / category page / and special pages ? [00:08:13] luna6, if (($wgArticle->getTitle()->mNamespace == 14) || (($wgArticle->getTitle()->mNamespace == -1)) return $out; [00:08:25] that will exclude category pages and special pages [00:10:03] hmm i will give it a try...thanks for the tip platonides..! [00:10:03] :) [00:10:03] was easy from the code you provided [00:10:32] "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_RETURN " [00:10:37] something is missing? [00:10:46] || (($ <- remove one ( [00:11:15] im sorry i dont follow [00:11:28] the line should have been if (($wgArticle->getTitle()->mNamespace == 14) || ($wgArticle->getTitle()->mNamespace == -1)) return $out; [00:11:35] ahh [00:11:37] thanks [00:12:11] For our intranet I want to modify MediaWiki so that you get an e-mail about each change to a page on your watchlist, rather than just the first change (until you look at the page). [00:12:22] Best method? [00:12:36] Platonides ... thanks that did the trick! [00:12:44] :) [00:12:47] if you think of a way to exclude the main page as well that would be great too [00:13:00] but happy without having the ratings on special pages and category pages [00:13:26] HappyDog: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnotifWatchlist [00:13:29] I thought of running a cron to set watchlist.wl_notificationtimestamp to NULL every X minutes (or perhaps once per day - that would probably do for our purposes) [00:13:51] HappyDog: it is included in the code, no need for that [00:13:53] actually, mNamespace is supposedly private :/ [00:13:54] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Email_notification_.28Enotif.29_settings [00:14:11] Prodego: Yup - that's enabled, but only sends an e-mail for the first change. You need to check the page manually before another mail is sent. [00:14:26] ah, I see, and you want every change [00:14:43] Yup. [00:14:49] well it seems to me like it would be easier to just disable whatever part of the code checks to see if an email was already sent [00:14:51] Though I've just noticed $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges... let me investigate [00:15:29] luna6, if ($wgArticle->getTitle()->equals(Title::newMainPage()) return $out; [00:15:46] Actually, that's no good - it's an array of users who receive all wiki changes. I need to allow all users to receive all changes, only for watched pages. [00:16:32] Prodego: I would rather not hack the code, if possible. Ideally either an extension using existing hooks, or a cron job that is external to the codebase [00:16:44] Makes updates a whole load easier... :-) [00:16:49] luna6> so, everything on one line: if (($wgArticle->getTitle()->getNamespace() == NS_CATEGORY) || ($wgArticle->getTitle()->getNamespace() == NS_SPECIAL) || ($wgArticle->getTitle()->equals(Title::newMainPage())) return $out; [00:17:03] ok platonides let me give that a whack [00:18:23] Platonides: wgArticle? [00:18:52] 03demon * r45689 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): bug 15470: Don't force-capitalize on Special:Upload. There's no point in throwing errors for any of this crap, really. I think this cleans up the last of the useless errors (for spacing/capitalization) in Special:Upload. [00:19:01] 03ipye * r45690 10/trunk/extensions/WikiTrust/mediawiki/extensions/Trust/ (README-remote RemoteTrust.php Trust.php): Merge commit 'origin/ian-luca' [00:19:04] 03(FIXED) JavaScript still tries to capitalise the first letter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15470 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:19:13] 03ipye * r45691 10/trunk/extensions/WikiTrust/mediawiki/extensions/Trust/README-remote: Merge commit 'origin/ian-luca' [00:19:18] Prodego? [00:20:02] HappyDog: what I would do is code a new variable to allow that, and submit it to bugzilla [00:20:11] surely others might want to do that [00:20:17] and it is the cleanest way [00:20:41] Platonides: $wgArticle a js var? [00:21:14] AFAIK there is no wgArticle [00:23:57] Platonides: hm? you had a question? [00:24:26] I was looking on how you assigned bug 16975 [00:24:32] and wondered if there were some rules [00:24:44] so the bugs could be directly assigned to the proper admin [00:24:46] Platonides: i'm making rob learn by doing such things :) [00:24:58] dump him everything? ;) [00:25:02] hehe [00:29:02] Prodego: Yeah - I could do, if that's something that would be accepted into the main codebase (for example, I doubt it would ever be enabled on any WMF wikis...) [00:29:26] HappyDog: ask brion [00:29:44] and yea not on WMF [00:29:58] what you need? [00:31:09] blah, I will ask then. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnotifWatchlist only sends one email per article changed, not 1 email per change [00:31:58] I need a method of e-mailing users on ALL changes of their watched pages, not just the first since their last visit. Prodego suggested doing it as a patch. Is that something that you would accept into trunk? Or is it more suited for an extension? [00:31:58] Prodego: *grin* I guess I'm just a slow typer... :-) [00:33:30] a site config option might actually make sense there; could be relatively clean [00:33:58] a bit harder to handle it per-user [00:34:14] i can see use cases for all-changes mails (automated use in particular) [00:36:41] phew.... [00:36:44] *Prodego was nervous there [00:37:20] hey hey [00:37:23] what's up guys [00:37:35] *werdnum returns from skiing. [00:38:31] brion: Snow predicted for Wednesday. Here's hoping the airport stays open., [00:38:45] werdnum: brrr! [00:38:55] brion: it's cold, but the skiing here rocks. [00:39:05] have fun : [00:39:06] D [00:39:19] :D [00:41:09] brion: Yup, a per-site option would be pretty simple. I will look at per user to see how feasible that is. The difficulty here is that you would need to load user preferences for each user watching the page. [00:41:32] It shouldn't be technically difficult, but I'm not sure about performance. [00:42:15] how do you currently do watch notifications? [00:42:28] you still need to load the users watching the page [00:42:42] i'm pretty sure it already checks the user options of all watchers so it knows who to send notifications to :) [00:42:46] just that you don't want those which already got a notification [00:42:59] though the query might be skipping out those who already got a notification already [00:44:30] I assumed it was checking the watchlist table, and only sending to users where the wl_notificationtimestamp was NULL (and that this was reset whenever they viewed the page) [00:44:45] Haven't looked at the code though [00:45:02] ^demon: you about? [00:45:44] ...but having thought about it, that makes little sense! :-) [00:46:05] anyone with commit access about? [00:46:41] plenty [00:46:50] *^demon waves [00:47:24] ^demon: care to review and re-apply bug 16854 [00:49:14] Is there [a plugin to do] something similar to WhatLinksHere pages, but restricted to pages in a particular category? That is, what links here that's in the category X (for some X)? [00:50:10] GregorR, have you cehcked if DPL does it? [00:50:24] DynamicPageList does that kind of stuff [00:50:43] Didn't know of that plugin. Knowing that it exists, I'll look into it :) [00:50:46] Thanks for the pointer. [00:51:37] <^demon> betacommand: Wouldn't it make more sense to check for ( wpSection && wpPreview )? [00:53:15] !dpl | GregorR [00:53:15] --mwbot-- GregorR: The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [00:53:15] <^demon> Rather than a much more generalized ( edit || submit ) [00:54:14] mwbot is feeling a bit slow today, eh :) [00:55:06] ^demon: thats not my code [00:57:06] 03(mod) without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 (10innocentkiller) [00:57:59] yep [01:19:56] hey krimpet :) [01:23:55] 'evening werdnum [01:39:56] 03(mod) without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 +comment (10b-jorsch) [01:48:44] 03(mod) Special: MergeAccount does not prompt for a captcha after an incorrect password is entered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11354 (10ultrablue) [01:50:40] <|X|> !bug 17000 [01:50:40] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17000 [01:50:41] 03soxred93 * r45692 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php): (bug 17000) Special:RevisionDelete now checks if the database is locked before trying to delete the edit. Patch by FunPika [01:51:07] 03(FIXED) Special:RevisionDelete does not check for database lock. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17000 +comment (10soxred93) [01:52:45] 03(ASSIGNED) Allow Inputbox to accept templates as well as pages for its parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17001 +comment (10soxred93) [01:52:51] 03(ASSIGNED) Allow parameter "edit summary" in an Inputbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17002 +comment (10soxred93) [02:00:57] 03(mod) Add Revision Diff functionality to API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13209 (10matthew.britton) [02:02:02] is there an extension that will allow for an "emergency button" that will send an email to someone when clicked? [02:03:06] 03(mod) Allow Inputbox to accept templates as well as pages for its parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17001 (10paul.copperman) [02:09:48] 03(mod) Add Revision Diff functionality to API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13209 (10paul.copperman) [02:09:52] chuck: not that I know of [02:10:28] 03soxred93 * r45693 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/EditPage.php): * (bug 17002) Add &minor= and &summary= as parameters in the url when editing, to automatically add a summary or a minor edit. [02:10:56] hrm i'll have to write it then [02:11:00] *chuck has too many unfinished extensions [02:11:47] 03(FIXED) Allow parameter "edit summary" in an Inputbox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17002 +comment (10soxred93) [02:18:42] 03soxred93 * r45694 10/trunk/extensions/InputBox/InputBox.classes.php: (bug 17002) Add minor and summary parameters to InputBox [06:21:04] I'm researching Special:Blockme. [06:23:12] Marybelle: ah, funny [06:23:19] I just restored and answered that question [06:23:31] was that you, or was that your inspiration [06:24:08] *Marybelle blinks at your response. [06:24:18] Open proxies? [06:24:30] yes, MW used to scan for proxies [06:25:56] Hmm, interesting. [06:27:14] hey michael. [06:27:18] What are you doing on so late? [06:29:38] Marybelle: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgBlockOpenProxies [06:30:17] "Many system administrators will report "hostile TCP port scans" to your ISP and ask for your server to be shut down... you have been warned!" <- learned for experience perhaps? :O [06:30:36] from* [06:33:16] 03(mod) wikibits.js - flippable tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16983 (10mhorvath2161) [06:37:54] i wonder how many of the bug reports which have a single digit id are still open >.> or marked as reopened [06:38:14] gee, I suppose you could find out with 10 clicks [06:38:27] or 9, it is probably not zero index, but that'd be unlazy [06:38:36] *Splarka whaps p858snake [06:38:42] well what i mean is like the old bugs that no one will ever look at again [06:39:04] Two... [06:39:12] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4 ... [06:39:15] http://mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MZMcBride [06:39:28] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=substring&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&keywords_type=allwords&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&bugidtype=include&chfieldto=Now&cmdtype=doit&order=Bug+Number&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop [06:39:33] What a pretty URL. [06:39:46] you're a noop [06:39:49] Marybelle: www.tinyurl.com [06:39:54] for all your linking needs [06:40:00] Prodego: That's not where the bug tracker is... [06:40:17] 6/10, p858snake. [06:40:32] 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. [06:42:33] *Splarka snickers [06:42:42] Marybelle: which 4 single-digit bugs are open then? [06:43:28] depending on bugzillas database layout that would/should easy with sql >.> [06:43:31] *runs* [06:45:56] Splarka: http://pastebin.com/d59fd98a3 [06:47:15] *cough* [06:47:29] not what I meant ^_^ [06:47:44] Oh, heh. [06:47:46] I'm tired. [06:47:56] but I made the same math error, and fixed it [06:48:06] and then saw you make it... and it was like.. deja whoops [06:49:43] hmm if we went on a closing rampage someone might think that the weekly email is broken again >.> and yes i made the same mistake with the 4 digits as well <.< [07:33:43] 03river * r45695 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/ (TSnrpe.spec patches/nrpe-00-log-defines.diff): TSnrpe: new spec [07:38:01] Hi [08:01:28] VasilievVV: Ping. [08:20:09] 03(mod) ins or del 1st occurrence in blockquote causes bogus newline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15491 (10smccandlish) [08:25:46] 03(mod) rev_deleted should use the history buttons to affect ranges of revisions on the history tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16607 +comment (10kwj2772) [08:29:03] moin [10:46:50] Добрый день! [10:48:05] hello? [10:51:32] help me please. How I can insert button in the text in the page? (). After save I can see only text, not button :( [10:54:34] html are stripped from the page [10:54:41] you will need something like [10:54:49] !e InputBox | MaxS [10:54:49] --mwbot-- MaxS: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox [10:55:17] hello [10:56:02] $wgRawHtml=true; oprion don't work [10:56:12] sorry my English [10:57:15] a problem - it have javascript [10:57:33] [11:01:22] !wg RawHtml [11:01:22] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHtml [11:05:19] (13:56:03) MaxS: [11:05:19] $wgRawHtml=true; option don't work [11:05:34] !wg RawHtml [11:05:34] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHtml [11:05:41] MaxS: you did not use ... ? [11:05:56] no [11:06:07] only in skin [11:06:28] the first sentence in that page is: When $wgRawHtml=true, the wiki will allow raw unchecked HTML in ... sections. [11:08:32] YES. thank you, Nikerabbit. It works [11:09:07] many thanks :) [11:10:45] hi, any perl monkies around? [11:10:45] could someone test this perl script for me? [11:10:45] http://pastebin.com/d2b980253 [11:10:45] I don't know why it fails here [11:10:45] it just prints '0' [11:10:45] can anyone try it for me? (you may need to hit 'cpan install MediaWiki::API' [11:19:10] 03(mod) Special: MergeAccount does not prompt for a captcha after an incorrect password is entered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11354 (10happy_melon) [11:23:32] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 (10ameliorate) [11:25:14] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 +patch (10raimond.spekking) [11:25:53] 14(WFM) formatnum formats template parameters instead of the returning result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12560 +comment (10happy_melon) [11:28:29] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 (10ameliorate) [11:34:52] 03(mod) colour coding of diffs ought to be clearer, in multiple senses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15026 -easy -testme ; +comment (10happy_melon) [11:40:22] Preprocessor node count: 1001083/1000000 , what increase node-count (to ease up fix)? [11:47:36] Hi, I'm trying to enable http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wildcard_search on MW 1.11 (Ubuntu hardy). It works, but I get two errors on every page "Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/lib/mediawiki/extensions/wildcardsearch/SearchMySQLwildcards.php:32) in /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/WebResponse.php on line 10" on every page now [11:47:46] Can somebody please help me understand this? [11:47:49] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 (10happy_melon) [11:52:42] Does included template [[Link|Link]] increase node count (list ran programmatically and links should not output [[Link (specification)]] but [[Link (specification)|Link]])? [11:54:25] 03(ASSIGNED) Support collation by a certain locale ( sorting order of characters) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 +comment (10PhiLiP.NPC) [11:57:54] I think my problem may have arisen from two empty lines at the end of the included php file [11:58:03] I fixed that now and it seems to work well [11:58:09] FYI [12:13:18] 03(NEW) autoreview edits should me marked as such in the history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17003 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (church.of.emacs.ml) [12:14:58] hi, you know that horrible "message from Wikipedia" message that use to ask for money on top of every page? how was it done? is there something that can be set to do similar thing on my wiki? [12:19:19] its a extenstion called central notice [12:19:34] although for single wiki installs you can use Site Notice [12:20:03] ok, thanks [12:20:29] !man $wgSiteNotice | Anarhist [12:20:29] --mwbot-- Anarhist: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgSiteNotice [12:20:32] Hi everyone, I want to transfer templates from wikimedia-commons to my private wiki, is it possible? [12:22:22] what if i need to put html in there? [12:23:30] the point is I want a replica of wikimedia-commons without the content, but with all the additions that make it suited for resource storage and categorization, I've already installed mediawiki, I assume that the remaining is to transfer the templates [12:29:12] xee you can go to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Version and see every extension that's installed [12:29:40] unless they've installed something through code hacks [12:37:15] When did Special:Userlogin become Special:UserLogin? [12:46:53] mike_jh: when soneone changed it [12:47:12] Anarhist: thanks, this will help [12:54:06] 03(mod) MediaWiki:Revision-info should accept wikimarkup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16026 (10happy_melon) [13:03:00] goodby [13:08:46] 03aaron * r45696 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [13:08:46] * autoreviewed edits marked as such in the history (bug 17003) [13:08:46] * paranoid rev_deleted check removed [13:08:50] 03(FIXED) autoreview edits should me marked as such in the history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17003 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [13:24:06] 03(mod) Addition of WP: "short" namespace to the Simple English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16998 (10bluegoblin) [13:25:48] 03(mod) Add show/ hide to Preferences for option on specialpages added by FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16969 (10JSchulz_4587) [13:35:47] 03shinjiman * r45697 10/trunk/tools/planet/ (15 files in 11 dirs): +gmq planet links [13:46:13] 03aaron * r45698 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (bug 16969) Add show/hide to Preferences for option on specialpages added by FlaggedRevs [13:53:18] Hey room [13:53:40] Is it possible to hide or delete history or talk pages ? [13:55:37] Mr-Fine: you can delete talk pages like any other page [13:56:19] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7824939.stm [13:56:26] Mr-Fine: deleting or hiding revisions is not posible by default, but can be done using the Oversight extension. That's an ugly hack, a better way to do this will be provided Really Soon Now. [13:56:29] how it will affect to all pages on my Wiki? [13:56:50] Mr-Fine: what do you mena? [13:57:55] Is there any extention or anything else, that will delete/hide talkp pages of pages that created or pages that will create [13:58:22] or I have to do it manually one by one? [13:58:52] perhaps you should explain what you actually want to do. [13:59:00] you want to remove *all* talk pages? [13:59:04] yeah [13:59:34] preventing access to them could be done using the Lockdown extension. [13:59:44] but how? [13:59:53] removing the tab... i don't know. writing an extension to do it should be rather trivial, but i don't know if one exists. [13:59:53] whats the URL? [13:59:58] !e Lockdown [13:59:58] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown [14:00:09] let me try :) [14:00:25] Lockdown lets you restrict read access per njamespace [14:00:25] what about extention for hiding revisions? [14:00:40] so you could grant read permission only to admins - or to some group with no members. [14:00:45] !e Oversight [14:00:45] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Oversight [14:00:55] Oversight is a nasty hack for killing revisions. [14:01:34] oh [14:02:41] haptiK: what;s that? [14:02:45] or do you mean you don't want people to view the edit history? [14:02:56] yeah [14:02:57] as opposed to actually deleting revisions [14:03:13] I just want to hide them [14:03:16] hm... not possible with Lockdown, since it's an action, not a special page or namespace. [14:03:25] locking actions is something i should add to Lockdown, actually [14:03:45] i think it has been done before, but i don't know a simple way := [14:04:29] well, you said that lockdown is for deleting talk pages not history pages [14:04:50] you recommend me oversight for hiding history pages [14:04:51] Is it ? [14:05:11] well, no. Oversight is for deleting individual revisions. not for hiding the page history. [14:05:18] for the latter, i don't know any simple way. [14:05:21] I just wanna hide history pages from Users and delete talk pages and nothing else [14:05:58] but that is not simple, because the page history is an important part of how a wiki works, and what it does. [14:06:02] so there's no easy way to do it. [14:06:12] if you want a cms, you probably shouldn't use a wiki [14:06:14] !cms [14:06:14] --mwbot-- Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access. [14:06:17] 03(FIXED) Add show/ hide to Preferences for option on specialpages added by FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16969 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:06:43] so which way you recommend me to follow up for that? [14:06:43] lockdown or oversight or anything else/ [14:07:06] as i said: i do not know a way to hide history pages. [14:07:15] i know how to hide talk pages. using lockdown. that's it. [14:07:39] history is a groupright; you can remove the right from *, and assign it to sysop [14:08:20] Laaknor: Pardon? [14:08:26] Laaknor: uh, it is? [14:08:32] Duesentrieb: I get you, thanks [14:08:50] as far as I remember, it is [14:08:54] if Laaknor is right, it's pretty simple [14:09:21] *Mr-Fine is not getting Laaknor [14:09:34] are you talking about history pages [14:09:57] give me a sec [14:09:59] *testing* [14:10:04] Laaknor: the only right is see is deletedhistory. [14:11:07] 04(REOPENED) recommended svn version for 1.13 is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16849 +comment (10alon) [14:11:17] mhm... but someone sais something about it here a couple of months ago [14:11:25] just have to remember what it was [14:12:23] Duesentrieb: can you help me with setting up Lockdown extention please [14:13:06] 03(mod) Modifying MediaWiki:Robots.txt appears to have no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 +comment (10happy_melon) [14:13:19] Laaknor:If you get a way to hide History pages, please tell me, I'll be waiting for you :) [14:15:57] 03raymond * r45699 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: follow up r45698: Add new messages [14:16:03] Duesentrieb: can you help me with setting up Lockdown extention please [14:16:21] Mr-Fine: if you have a concrete question, yes. [14:16:46] :) offcourse [14:17:34] 03aaron * r45700 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevisionListView.php: (bug 16929) Fix css name for comment column [14:17:35] 03(FIXED) COUNT( DISTINCT cc_id) needs AS clause - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16929 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [14:17:42] Hello, What's the API function for getting the old versions of an image? [14:18:32] Hi. [14:19:04] Ye [14:19:11] When I hit x.x.x.x, I get a 301 redirect to http://localhost/index.php?title=Main_Page. $wgServer and $wgServerName is set (in /includes/DefaultSettings.php) to the IP of the server. Where am I doing something wrong? [14:20:08] Mr-Fine: seems I might have been mistaken. Can't find anything about it in neither source or documentation [14:20:44] Laaknor: NP [14:21:16] 03(mod) __INDEX__ and __NOINDEX__ should not override $wgArticleRobotPolicies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14900 (10happy_melon) [14:21:33] Osama: You are founder user or join it later? [14:22:01] Osamak :what kind of software projects ? [14:22:07] 03(mod) __INDEX__ and __NOINDEX__ should not override $wgArticleRobotPolicies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14900 +need-review +patch (10happy_melon) [14:22:51] Mr-Fine, oh, no, I just joined. BTW, it was created very early, on 2001.. [14:23:02] ok [14:23:43] Is it possible to find an image when the link is the full link of the image ? Like https://int/wiki/images/1/17/routeur.jpg ? [14:23:53] I mean find again the name that let me use the image as [[Image:name]] instead of https://int/wiki/images/1/17/routeur.jpg ? [14:25:30] https://int/wiki/Special:ImageList doesn't give a result fot the search "routeur" or "routeur.jpg" [14:25:30] metheocrite: sure. [[image:routeur.jpg]] [14:25:30] it's the file name. always. [14:25:30] unless you are looking at a scaled version. there there is some 120px cruft added [14:26:35] 03(mod) Add Revision Diff functionality to API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13209 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [14:27:51] Again, What's the API function for getting the old versions of an image? I'm trying to create a bot that checks if there're old versions or not. [14:27:59] Duesentrieb: I indeed assumed it was the filename, but it doesn't work when I try [[Image:routeur.jpg]] (or any combinaison of routeur.jpg/routeur Image/image etc.) [14:28:16] Would it be possible that the database is corrupt or something ? [14:28:21] metheocrite: then the wiki does not know about the image. [14:28:28] OsamaK: Please dont ask again, if somebody know he will answer you :) [14:29:23] I added a hint :) [14:30:06] ?? ???????? [14:30:15] sorry room, it was by mistake [14:30:46] 03rotem * r45701 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he. [14:32:05] Duesentrieb: you there? [14:32:40] Ok, I just upload the extention files over server and now I'm going to add the codes in Localsettings.php=file [14:34:16] I've having problem with understaing config. codes [14:35:22] Laaknor: you there/ [14:35:37] Mr-Fine: please ask a concrete question. [14:35:39] yes [14:36:05] as Duesentrieb says; easier to answer your questions when you actually ask something ;) [14:36:51] I was dc, what i missed? [14:37:29] Laaknor: can you help me with setting up Lockdown extention please, I've having problem with understanding config. codes [14:37:53] Mr-Fine: and we have problems with heling you if you don't ask concrete questions :) [14:38:26] :D [14:39:41] well, i dont have [14:39:46] 03daniel * r45702 10/trunk/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php: allow lockdown of individual actions [14:41:24] Mr-Fine: well, what do you not understand? you need a require_once() statement to act.ivate the extension. and you need to apply the settings you want. there are examples on the description page [14:41:48] Duesentrieb: I add this on my localsetting.php require_once( "$IP/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php" ); [14:41:52] $wgSpecialPageLockdown['Export'] = array('user'); [14:41:52] $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown[NS_PROJECT]['edit'] = array('user'); [14:42:03] yes. [14:42:22] and if I wanna hide talk pages? [14:42:24] no the export page is only accessible by users (no longer by anons). and only users can edit pages in the project namespace [14:42:55] yeah [14:42:59] for hiding talk pages, you would use something like this: $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown[NS_TALK]['*'] = array('none'); [14:43:17] this revokes all rights for the talk pages of the main namespace [14:43:26] user talk pages etc remain unaffected [14:43:53] to disable talk pages for the project namespace, you'd use $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown[NS_PROJECT_TALK]['*'] [14:44:07] note that you will still see a *link* to the talk pages. [14:44:25] ok [14:44:35] $wgSpecialPageLockdown['Export'] = array('user'); ? What about this [14:44:51] Hi, I have mediawiki 1.10.1 and want to upgrade it to the latest version, any recomendations? [14:45:17] !upgrade [14:45:17] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [14:45:22] Mr-Fine: what i said: the export page is only accessible by users [14:45:35] Mr-Fine: it refers to Special:Export [14:46:21] so you mean by $wgSpecialPageLockdown['NS_TALK'] = array('user'); [14:46:40] Mr-Fines: thanks [14:48:38] Mr-Fine: that restricts access to users. you want to restrict access to no one. [14:48:45] so require some group that doesn't exist. [14:49:02] err, whait [14:49:06] no, that doesn't make sense [14:49:14] you are mixing lockown of special pages and namespaces [14:49:23] perhaps you should fist understand what you are doing :) [14:49:25] !namespace [14:49:25] --mwbot-- For help with understanding and manipulating namespaces, please consult . See also !extranamespace [14:49:31] Mr-Fine: read that [14:49:40] also this: [14:49:43] !rights [14:49:43] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [14:51:30] 03daniel * r45703 10/trunk/extensions/Lockdown/README: README: instructions for wgActionLockdown [14:51:35] Can you set the hostname other places than $wgServer and $wgServername? [14:51:44] The_ZoRo: no. [14:51:52] ok [14:51:54] thanks [14:52:00] okay [14:52:14] It would be appreciate if i got something to hide history pages [14:52:17] Mr-Fines: download a fresh copy of Lockdown. I just added a way to prevent access to history pages. [14:52:19] it should be done in LocalSettings.php, right? [14:52:29] yes [14:52:36] ah [14:52:43] what about codes for that one? [14:52:59] $wgActionLockdown['history'] = array('xxxx'); [14:53:06] it's actually on the description page [14:53:09] i added it as an example [14:53:29] ok [14:53:36] thanks [14:53:36] let me check it [14:53:37] Duesentrieb> $wgServerName = "http://x.x.x.x" right? [14:54:02] The_ZoRo: no. [14:54:11] so it will hide history pages from users, is it? [14:54:36] The_ZoRo: $wgServerName = "foo.bar.com"; $wgServer = "http://$wgServerName"; [14:54:50] what if I don't have a dimain? [14:54:56] Mr-Fine: it will prevent access to history pages to for everyone. [14:55:04] The_ZoRo: then use the IP address [14:55:11] but I cant see anything new there [14:55:22] hm? where? [14:55:51] on extention page [14:56:24] ok i got [14:57:04] Duesentrieb> bingo. Worked.. Thank you VERY much :D [14:57:23] require_once( "$IP/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php" ); [14:57:24] $wgActionLockdown['history'] = array('user'); [14:57:24] $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown[NS_PROJECT]['edit'] = array('user'); [14:57:25] Is it ? [14:57:59] Mr-Fine: the above does not do what you said you wanted, no. [14:58:08] perhaps try to uinderstand what the configuration does. [14:58:25] understand what the namespaces do. and what user groups are. [14:58:29] that would make things easier. [14:59:10] damn [15:00:52] Duesentrieb> one more thing: If I get a domain for the site, I need to edit the $wgServerName variable to "subdomain.domain.com", right? [15:01:04] yes [15:01:12] goodie.. [15:01:15] thanks a lot [15:01:24] $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown[NS_PROJECT]['edit'] = array('SYSOP'); [15:01:27] 03(mod) Section edit bug where entire article is overwritten on save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1181 (10JSchulz_4587) [15:01:27] is it ? [15:01:58] that restricts editing of the project namespace to sysops. [15:02:20] then :( [15:02:31] you want to restrict everythign of the talk namespace to no one. [15:02:42] i actually already posted the line. [15:02:52] well i'm talking about history pages [15:03:39] o_O [15:04:03] $wgActionLockdown['history'] = array('user'); is for history pages. that is quite different. [15:04:16] in that case, changing user to sysop would probably be what you want, yes [15:04:45] yeah [15:04:51] i got it earlier :) [15:05:08] but do i required to put last line for restriction? [15:05:24] hm? [15:05:39] im talking about $wgNamespacePermissionLockdown [15:05:50] do i need it? [15:06:04] to prevent access to the talk namespace, yes. [15:06:17] leave about talkpages [15:06:37] you do not need it for the history pages, no. [15:06:44] ok, [15:06:50] you do need the very latest code for that though [15:06:58] the one i comitted a few minutes ago. [15:07:09] require_once( "$IP/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php" ); [15:07:10] $wgActionLockdown['history'] = array('sysop'); [15:07:20] for hiding history pages, is it ok now? [15:08:14] it prevents access to them. "hiding" is not quite it. links will remain. [15:08:30] ok [15:08:57] maybe it is possible to remove history link by css [15:09:56] yes. #ca-history { display: none; } [15:10:12] how do i stop mediawiki from adding "nofollow" to the external links? [15:10:14] yeah, maybe work [15:10:48] Anarhist: $wgNoFollowLinks = false; [15:11:09] Anarhist: or use $wgNoFollowNsExceptions [15:12:41] in Common.css or Modern.js ? [15:12:43] which one? [15:14:27] interesting, in the SiteNotice the "nofollow" is still added [15:15:25] Duesentrieb: Extention is not working [15:15:46] well, it works for me... [15:16:08] maybe code is still wrong [15:16:16] require_once( "$IP/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php" ); [15:16:17] $wgActionLockdown['history'] = array('sysop'); [15:16:23] what version of mediawiki are you using? [15:16:34] you need 1.13 for this. [15:16:39] (or later) [15:16:48] 1.13 [15:16:50] yeah [15:17:27] and you have the latest version of Lockdown? [15:17:38] yeh, download it now [15:17:44] does the Lockdown.php file contain references to $wgActionLockdown ? [15:18:01] you need to download the head/trun version [15:18:39] nothing $wgActionLockdown inside php file [15:18:51] so you do not have the latest version. [15:19:07] oh [15:20:02] let me download it again [15:21:26] are you Daniel [15:21:32] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php?view=log [15:21:36] yes [15:21:47] ok [15:21:52] its updated there [15:22:36] http://upload.wikimedia.org/ext-dist/Lockdown-MW1.13-r31423.tar.gz [15:22:43] what i getting [15:23:37] as i said, don't pcik the 1.13 version, use trunk. [15:24:09] oh [15:24:11] sorry [15:32:28] thanks [15:32:29] its working now [15:32:30] so only sysop can see history pages ?? [15:33:21] yes. [15:34:25] and if i wanna restric some other pages so i have to put the code again as i do it now [15:34:25] 03(mod) Database error, but the edit was accepted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15391 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:36:32] Duesentrieb: If I have to hide other pages, so Do I have to put code as it is or just $wgActionLockdown['history'] = array('sysop'); [15:38:19] *Mr-Fine waiting for Daniel's reply [15:39:45] I wanna hide HISTORY link, Is it possible with #ca-history { display: none; } ? [15:39:54] yes. [15:39:59] !css [15:39:59] --mwbot-- To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and [15:40:05] but not working [15:40:59] Mr-Fine: as for hiding other pages: it depends on the type of page. if it's an action page, you'd do it the same way as history pages. if it's a special page, you use wgSpecialPageLockdown. If it's a regularly editable wiki page, you do it per namespace, using wgNamespaceLockdown. [15:41:01] *Mr-Fine Welcome Wazur-rhn [15:41:32] wgNamespaceLockdown is more complex, because you can restrict individual activities for each namespace. "*" means "all activities". [15:42:22] 03aaron * r45704 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ExternalStore.php: (bug 15391) catch DBQueryError too [15:42:39] 03(FIXED) Database error, but the edit was accepted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15391 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:42:43] I got,thanks [15:42:43] #ca-history { display: none; } is not working [15:44:47] 03aaron * r45705 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/FlaggedRevs.i18n.php: Use proper message [15:44:52] Duesentrieb: do you have anyother code for hiding history link? [15:45:12] Mr-Fine, where have you put it? [15:45:23] MediaWiki:Common.css [15:45:25] have you tried bypassing the browser cache? [15:45:32] 4 times [15:45:46] Mr-Fine: it should work. i do not have an alternative. [15:45:47] strange [15:45:52] is it public? [15:46:03] *Mr-Fine dont fotget to bypassing the browser cache after every little change :) [15:46:06] ...it should work at least with monobook. [15:46:15] iot may not work with different skins. [15:46:27] maybe :( [15:46:33] I'm using Modern [15:46:52] hi all [15:46:57] hi [15:47:18] would http://yourwiki.pastebin.com/m658d7b5 remove those wikis from the global interwiki table which has been defined above? [15:47:19] Bluegoblin7: If I am not wrong, Are you JACK [15:47:20] it's still ca-history [15:47:31] Mr-Fine: yes, do i know you? [15:47:38] hhmm [15:47:40] :D [15:47:48] Friend of WAHAB [15:47:59] ok [15:47:59] maybe he told you about me [15:48:03] TAYYEB here [15:48:28] you dont know, how much he tried to catch but you was on Wikibreak [15:48:45] no he hasnt mentioned you [15:48:47] hello [15:48:48] Maybe somebody told you over #yourwiki [15:48:51] and yes, so ive heard [15:48:57] :X really [15:49:40] anyway, if you want to continue having a social PM me [15:49:48] i need help with an issue at the moment [15:49:52] not really got time to cha [15:49:54] chat* [15:49:59] Platonides: So is there any way ? [15:50:00] Bluegoblin7: do you know anything about css? [15:50:16] Mr-Fine: the css should work with modern too [15:50:21] Bluegoblin7: a little [15:50:28] ok, i am not chatting, just introducing myself [15:50:36] which is not restricted here [15:50:43] AM I right everybody? [15:50:55] no i know ;) just mentioning it [15:51:19] he leave us :( [15:52:21] Anybody wanna help me in making Main page design? [15:53:37] Bluegoblin7: I'm using Modern skin and I wanna hide HISTORY link [15:53:52] Is it possible with #ca-history { display: none; } ? [15:56:48] 03(NEW) Search engine indexing (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17004 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (happy_melon) [15:56:48] 03(mod) Add "nofollow" to links to Special: Random on navigation panel and search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8411 (10happy_melon) [15:56:49] 03(mod) $wgArticleRobotPolicies vs. SpecialPages hardwiring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8473 (10happy_melon) [15:56:50] Duesentrieb: ? [15:56:52] 03(mod) Add class="robots-nocontent" in footer to avoid search engine to index it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10052 (10happy_melon) [15:56:54] 03(mod) Auto-noindex user/user talk pages for blocked users. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11443 (10happy_melon) [15:56:57] 03(mod) Google (and others) is indexing data dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11720 (10happy_melon) [15:57:10] 03(mod) __INDEX__ and __NOINDEX__ should not override $wgArticleRobotPolicies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14900 (10happy_melon) [15:58:57] Mr-Fine: i can't tell you more than i did before: yes, that's the way to do it. [15:59:16] 03(mod) Modifying MediaWiki:Robots.txt appears to have no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 (10happy_melon) [15:59:20] 03(mod) Search engine indexing (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17004 (10happy_melon) [15:59:20] but its not working, maybe you are wrong with code [15:59:22] 03(mod) Mark redlinks with rel="nofollow" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6545 (10happy_melon) [15:59:24] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 (10happy_melon) [16:00:02] but its not working, maybe you are wrong with code [16:00:16] sorry, by mistake [16:03:12] 03rotem * r45706 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/FlaggedRevs.i18n.php: Localization update for he. [16:07:59] Duesentrieb: why you use # in #ca-history { display: none; } [16:08:12] I thnk we dont need it [16:08:37] because it refers to an id. [16:10:32] What i missed? [16:10:34] What i missed? [16:10:57] Mr-Fine # is for ids [16:11:00] . for classes [16:11:19] oh i see :D [16:11:34] *Mr-Fines is in Tension [16:12:54] well, nothing else w/leaving it [16:13:04] w/o^ [16:13:49] by the way, can you help me with Main page design? [16:14:39] I wanna know if MediaWiki have original source codes for Template:Imbox or Ambox ? [16:15:05] why it should? [16:15:29] so who have ? Wikipedia? [16:16:29] *TimStarling finally comments in the "software out of reach of the community" thread [16:16:55] I wnna know about Templates like Message boxes(Imbox/Ambox), Infobox and others if have [16:17:14] !template [16:17:14] --mwbot-- For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy . [16:17:30] I wnna know about Templates like Message boxes(Imbox/Ambox), Infobox and others if have [16:18:41] hello, i have this problem in 1.13.3: the latex expressions are displayed only in preview [16:18:53] not in the saved page [16:19:26] can you help me get this work? [16:19:33] what could be the cause? [16:20:38] I dont know [16:22:13] Hello Prom [16:24:43] Ive got an unusual issue. I recently had a category added to [[MediaWiki:Pfunc expr unexpected operator]] some pages actually show the red error message and others contain the error in the HTML and category but dont visually show the error [16:25:32] 03huji * r45707 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Correcting a translation [16:25:46] What rederror? [16:26:08] Oh right [16:26:16] the one that pfunc expr unexpected operator shows. [16:26:35] I think it's added as HTML, not wikitext, or something. [16:26:56] werdnum: its added to some pages in big red error messages [16:27:05] others its not visable [16:27:44] can anyone help me with a small issue? im setting up interlanguage linking on my farm and i need to exclude two wikis from the global interwiki table. what would be the code? [16:28:02] [[Knightoconus]] visible [16:28:17] Betacommand: I don't think you can rely on adding a category to do the right thing. [16:28:41] werdnum: why? [16:28:55] Im getting the error messages in the HTML on all pages [16:29:21] Because the wikitext isn't parsed with the page's wikitext. [16:29:53] I haven't looked, but I guess it's using parse, rather than recursiveTagParse, which maintains parser state. [16:29:55] What's the API function for getting the old versions of an image? I'm trying to create a bot that checks if there're old versions or not. [16:30:11] Betacommand, hello man, how are you? [16:30:12] OsamaK: have you checked the documentation? [16:30:23] almost yeah [16:33:48] So.. [16:44:49] Any original source code of Template:Imbox or Ambox ? [16:45:19] you may want to ask at #wikipedia-en ? [16:49:38] brion: Its a fake :P [16:49:53] Prom_cat: What? [16:50:09] ? [16:50:16] *Prom_cat points to brions hostname [16:50:21] forgot to identify? [16:50:24] bah [16:50:25] 03(mod) colour coding of diffs ought to be clearer, in multiple senses - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15026 (10michael.daly) [16:50:40] think i need to fix a bad pw in my keychain :) [16:53:37] everyone have a good monday? [16:54:47] Yeah [16:54:50] what's Windows Mail? outlook express with a new name? [16:54:50] it was bloody hot tho [16:55:00] yksinaisyyteni: Basically [16:57:04] Mr-Fine: Did you sort your issues out? [16:57:32] Prom_cat: Nop :( [16:57:35] wiim ny fkuggt [16:57:36] hmm [16:57:41] typing works better with the fingers on the right keys [16:57:47] woo, my flight's booked for fosdem [16:57:48] haha [16:58:12] Mr-Fine I would like to introduce you to brion (AKA The VIBBER) [16:58:13] Prom_cat: I'm trying to hide HISTORY link [16:58:23] Hi Brion [16:58:24] Brion is the CTO of the wikimedia foundation [16:58:29] *brion waves [16:58:33] !cto [16:58:33] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "cto". You might try: !adminsettings !phpinfo !session !uploads [16:58:39] If he cant help you, no one can :P [16:58:48] heheh :D [16:58:53] cto? [16:59:00] Chief Technical Officer [16:59:08] oh :O [16:59:28] yep, if you have a problem with your CSS he is the man to talk to :) [16:59:43] ok [17:00:30] Mr-Fine: you trying to hide the history tab in site css? or making a major skin customization already? [17:01:19] Brion: I'm using customize Modern skin and I want to hide HISTORY link, I tried it using #ca-history { display: none; } [17:01:20] but not working [17:02:33] *Mr-Fine waiting for Brion's reply...... [17:02:48] I'll be going now I think [17:02:54] Have a nice day brion [17:03:16] Prom_cat: thanks for introducing [17:03:26] 03(mod) Add Revision Diff functionality to API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13209 (10roan.kattouw) [17:04:19] brion: you there? [17:04:26] Brion: I'm using customize Modern skin and I want to hide HISTORY link, I tried it using #ca-history { display: none; } [17:04:30] but not working [17:04:43] 03(mod) Add Revision Diff functionality to API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13209 (10roan.kattouw) [17:06:14] 03(mod) Search engine indexing (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17004 +comment (10innocentkiller) [17:06:15] 03(mod) $wgArticleRobotPolicies vs. SpecialPages hardwiring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8473 (10innocentkiller) [17:06:18] 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2007 (10innocentkiller) [17:06:20] 03(mod) Google (and others) is indexing data dumps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11720 (10innocentkiller) [17:06:32] 03(mod) Modifying MediaWiki:Robots.txt appears to have no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 (10innocentkiller) [17:06:34] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 (10innocentkiller) [17:06:34] 03(mod) Auto-noindex user/user talk pages for blocked users. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11443 (10innocentkiller) [17:06:34] 03(mod) Add class="robots-nocontent" in footer to avoid search engine to index it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10052 (10innocentkiller) [17:06:36] 03(mod) __INDEX__ and __NOINDEX__ should not override $wgArticleRobotPolicies - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14900 (10innocentkiller) [17:06:38] 03(mod) Mark redlinks with rel="nofollow" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6545 (10innocentkiller) [17:06:41] 03(mod) Add "nofollow" to links to Special: Random on navigation panel and search engines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8411 (10innocentkiller) [17:07:01] hi ialex [17:07:58] Hi Nike [17:08:21] Mr-Fine: patience. irc is an asynchronous medium :) [17:08:54] I thnk if my messages are not delivering to #mediawiki [17:09:19] Mr-Fine: sounds like it should work. can you point a link to your wiki and i'll take a peek? [17:12:48] 03(mod) Auto-noindex user/user talk pages for blocked users. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11443 (10JSchulz_4587) [17:13:35] hello Nikerabbit [17:14:03] Hello ialex [17:14:04] :D [17:14:40] brion: you check the problem? [17:16:28] 03dale * r45708 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/add_media_wizard.js: rename add media wiz [17:17:40] 03dale * r45709 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/external_media_wizard.js: rename add media wiz [17:19:25] 03ialex * r45710 10/trunk/extensions/SkinPerPage/SkinPerPage.php: [17:19:25] * Use ParserFirstCallInit if possible [17:19:25] * Use ParserOutput::addOutputHook() and $wgParserOutputHooks rather than OutputPageParserOutput hook [17:21:42] What is last defination in the page? [17:21:55] 03(mod) Auto-noindex user/user talk pages for blocked users. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11443 +comment (10brion) [17:31:18] brion: where are you? [17:33:09] it may occur to you that i might be doing things other than just answering your questions, and that it may thus take me some time to respond to you [17:33:27] ok [17:33:35] 03(mod) rev_deleted should use the history buttons to affect ranges of revisions on the history tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16607 (10mikelifeguard) [17:34:25] why does [[#|foo]] point to the main page [17:35:02] seems like it would point to the null section [17:35:08] err if one exists [17:35:36] I wanna need help regarding creating Infobox [17:35:41] 03(mod) rev_deleted should use the history buttons to affect ranges of revisions on the history tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16607 (10mikelifeguard) [17:36:55] NotASpider, there's no such thing as a null section. [[#|foo]] should point to the top of the current page; that's the accepted meaning of an empty anchor, AFAIK. [17:37:49] Anybody wana share Main page design ? [17:37:50] that sounds better than the current behavior [17:38:10] which is "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/" [17:38:18] no page name at the end [17:38:37] so it goes to the main [17:39:05] iam talking about other then wikimedia's project [17:39:35] if I have a redirect is it possible to make mediawiki link to the target page directly? [17:39:36] i.e. if ArticleA redirects to ArticleB, I want that mediawiki to generate from [[ArticleB]] this: ArticleA [17:39:56] er. the other way around ArticleB [17:43:23] simetrical actually i think clicking "foo.html#" from within that page has no effect at all [17:43:24] bogdan, no. Otherwise you wouldn't get the "redirected from X" message and it would be difficult to access or change the redirect. [17:43:49] i've only seen that as a placeholder for onclick javascript links [17:44:08] but i don't think it causes scrolling [17:45:03] Simetrical: well, I want that on my own wiki, not on wikipedia; anyway, I could access the page by adding "&redirect=0" to the url :-P [17:45:23] but even making it equal to [[#top]] would be better than no pagename, which is 301 to main page [17:46:02] bogdan wouldn't it just be easier to hide the "redirected from" bits [17:46:27] then the only difference would be the url [17:47:02] NotASpider: yeah, but it would still be two urls. [17:47:42] maybe I can hack out the php script about the redirects and simply change them to 301? [17:47:44] use javascript to reload from the "correct" one :p [17:47:49] you could [17:48:18] or you could write a patch which has this as a setting [17:48:21] if anyone else wants it [17:49:03] I think I found one: http://www.sumbytes.com/mediawiki-301-redirects/ [17:49:44] 2 previously passing test(s) now FAILING! :( [17:49:45] * Language converter: output gets cut off unexpectedly (bug 5757) [Introduced between 07-Jan-2009 04:36:27, 1.14alpha (r45489) and 13-Jan-2009 17:48:56, 1.15alpha (r45710)] [17:49:45] * Erroneous refs [Introduced between 07-Jan-2009 04:36:27, 1.14alpha (r45489) and 13-Jan-2009 17:48:56, 1.15alpha (r45710)] [17:49:48] 03(NEW) Internal Error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17005 minor; normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (chris_europole) [17:49:56] surely that would be much easier than looking up the "correct" page for each link target when rendering the html [17:50:26] NotASpider: yeah, I guess. and the result is pretty much the same. [17:50:30] anyway, thanks :-) [17:51:15] brion: whats 1.15a ? [17:51:26] I thought we were only up to 1.14? [17:51:36] 1.14 is branched, so trunk is 1.15 [17:52:02] k [17:52:29] ok so [[#]] links to no title i.e. main page, but [[##]] links to "current page#.23" [17:52:31] weird [17:55:10] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/1/1f/Advanced_search_link_looking_weird_in_place.png <- anybody like the look of this link? whole thing looks awkward to me [17:55:18] Hi, I just upgraded from mediawiki 1.10.1 to 1.13 [17:55:52] I had the rule for the users needed to log in first in order to see the content of the wiki, but with the upgrade this restriction is gone [17:56:06] I didn't configure this restriction in the first place, so I'm now wondering where to set up that [17:58:46] !read restrictions [17:58:46] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "read". You might try: !#mediawiki !analytics !ask !cms !credit !imagemagic !lockdown !memcached !phpshell !readonly !rtfm !secrets !session !subst !threads [17:58:49] !restrictionis [17:58:49] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "restrictionis". [17:58:52] !restrictions [17:58:52] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "restrictions". You might try: !secrets [17:58:54] bah [17:58:57] !faq [17:58:57] --mwbot-- Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [17:59:02] ^ it's in there somewhere :D [17:59:08] there's an exact link but i forget the magic keyword for it [17:59:20] but you'll want to be poking at $wgGroupPermissions [17:59:25] maybe... [17:59:25] !access [17:59:25] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [17:59:33] I think the second link there? [17:59:42] !bingo [17:59:42] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "bingo". [17:59:44] that sounds good yeah [17:59:46] :) [18:00:44] anybody? [18:00:57] I wanna source code for Template:Ambox without having image [18:01:08] anybody, who can help me in this? [18:04:39] how do you make external links? [18:05:31] [http://example.com Name] [18:05:43] Or http://example.com or [http://example.com] [18:05:54] 03aaron * r45711 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: [18:05:54] * Short-circuit userWasLastToEdit() [18:05:54] * Move edit conflict suppress check up [18:05:54] * Code style tweaks [18:06:59] I wanna source code for Template:Ambox without having image [18:07:02] rather..i'm trying to create a link that opens in a new window..how do you do that? [18:07:38] ialex: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45498#c1228 [18:07:47] Mr-Fine: read the manual please - template markup is discussed in depth in the documentation [18:09:32] !linknw | Rob_Laibach [18:09:32] --mwbot-- Rob_Laibach: You shouldn't do this, but since you asked: [18:14:31] is somebody in here using media wiki with authentication agains openldap? [18:18:05] this documentation /Extension:LDAP_Authentication#When_using_password_authentication is not clear at all [18:28:03] brion: thanks for upload... working on it together with removing the search button;-) [18:28:21] 03(NEW) behavior of empty section link [[#]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17006 trivial; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (charlottethewebb) [18:30:49] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45512#c1233 [18:31:01] Danny_B: :D [18:31:18] maybe we can do that in a way that we can test it on test without disrupting other sites for now? [18:33:12] brion: either i'm dumb or the link you pasted is wrong - how is it related to the advanced search link? [18:33:16] 03(NEW) Import and export functionality should be added to the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17007 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (roan.kattouw) [18:34:13] Danny_B: it's not related [18:34:15] 03(mod) behavior of empty section link [[#]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17006 +bugday +need-parsertest; +comment (10brion) [18:37:58] 03aaron * r45712 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: (bug 11443) Auto-noindex user/user talk pages for blocked users [18:38:13] 03(FIXED) Auto-noindex user/user talk pages for blocked users. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11443 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [18:42:16] fixme on refreshlinks: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45514#c1236 [18:48:46] 03leonsp * r45713 10/USERINFO/leonsp: My commit profile: leonsp [18:49:18] 03brion * r45714 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReview.i18n.php: Code review UI tweak: changing "review notes" to "recent comments" so I don't keep wondering what the heck this link is. ;) [18:49:40] Your on a role today brion, theres a see of red at the top with you name on it :P [18:49:51] your^ [18:49:53] \o/ [18:50:25] brion: oh, how did my-fine go? [18:51:05] gah [18:51:08] Mr_Fine^ [18:51:10] Prom_cat: a little impatient, but we got his css thing worked out ;) [18:51:55] Yes he is impatient, I found your "Mr-Fine: patience. irc is an asynchronous medium :)" remark priceless :) [18:52:25] sorry i was away [18:52:41] i don't want evrey link a user clicks to open a new window [18:52:44] i want to be able to control it [18:52:53] like setting target='_blank' [18:53:05] how do i do this.. [18:53:22] i saw on this page http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Opening_external_links_in_a_new_window... [18:53:36] to go to includes/ linker.php or skins.php [18:53:55] to look for a certain function..but i don't see the code in the function that they suggest to change at all [18:55:30] 03brion * r45715 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: Cleanup for r45526: use addQuotes rather than strencode on a timestamp parameter. MySQL will let you slip on that with our current timestamps, but PG won't and it's a bad practice. [18:57:12] hay brion i hate to bug you but can you review and get bug 16854 in the next site code update? [18:58:51] Betacommand: i'll take a peek [18:58:52] 03rotem * r45716 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReview.i18n.php: Localization update for he. [18:59:18] brion: thanks [19:00:21] hmmmm [19:01:11] brion: A special page perhaps? [19:04:18] Prom_cat: a category is easier on the servers [19:04:42] doesnt need to be forced updated regularly [19:05:15] Also are we ever going to fix Special:WantedFiles to take into account SMR's ? [19:05:22] 03(mod) without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 (10brion) [19:06:06] SMR? [19:06:20] Shared Media Repository [19:07:17] that might be nice to fix; might be tricky, though [19:07:33] nothing to join to in a bulk DB query; you'd have to check them individually and trim them out [19:07:46] or else maintain a local summary table somehow and join against that [19:08:59] 14(WFM) Some logs don't italicise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15640 (10JSchulz_4587) [19:09:09] brion: Coudnt we get it to work on similar principal to the externallinks table [19:10:58] Brion, why do we not support tiff files ? [19:11:18] this would make a big difference for the image restoration projects [19:11:45] GerardM-: i think we haven't quite got round to it. tiffs are a bit complicated in that it's a meta-format with many possible actual encodings [19:12:08] check if there's an extension for it already in the works and plop it on my queue to look at :) [19:12:35] it prevents the restorations to be taken seriously by people outside or WMF ... you can not repeat the work from compressed files [19:13:43] Brion, at the start of the fundraiser, localisation software was written for the banner .. [19:13:45] yes, tiffs are great. :) i'm convinced -- just make sure that any existing extension or bug gets bumped and add me as CC [19:14:10] when is this going to be transferred to Betawiki ... ? [19:14:18] I have a look (re tiff) [19:14:50] probably would need to convert to jpg for display [19:14:52] GerardM-: notice template management software was written. a subpart of that is a handy form for updating localized banner text. it's probably not very applicable to betawiki [19:15:48] People outside of WMF might want to use the banner software ... and that makes management of the text part of the package [19:16:00] well, feel free :) [19:16:17] but i assume you mean that they'd be running their own custom install of translatewiki [19:16:17] NotASpider .. NO it would not [19:16:21] otherwise that doesn't make any sense to me :) [19:16:48] there are own installs of Translate [19:17:02] then someone who would find that useful is welcome to figure out how to do that [19:17:50] the fact that localisation was done outside of Betawiki had people NOT cooperate on the banner work [19:18:27] the point of our localisation effort is that wehn we bundle our efforts we have more success [19:18:49] well fewer browsers support tiff than svg even [19:19:21] NotASpider, the point of TIFF is that it has no compression and that is why you use tiff [19:19:53] that would only be useful/important if you want to download the original [19:19:55] it is about supporting the restoration efforts not necessarily about showing it [19:20:32] exactly, that is why you have these tiffs [19:21:05] hello [19:21:18] if an article contains a low-res thumbnail it's already lossy so it might as well be thumbnailed in a compressed format [19:21:40] even if the original is tiff [19:22:41] GerardM-: be happy to coordinate more closely if there's some feasible way of running up-to-the-minute non-software updates through it, but i don't know whether than makes sense. it would require technical coordination, and nobody there has proposed anything to us [19:23:13] there was qutie some upset when this happened without coordination [19:23:52] GerardM-: is there any infrastructure on translatewiki for handling notification banners or wiki page sets? [19:23:57] the software was created without talking to the people who do all the localisation [19:24:01] is there someone we could actually speak to about it? [19:24:17] all i'm seeing is vague generalities that someone, somewhere, is complaining [19:24:20] and it's kind of hard to address that [19:24:38] I had some hard words with Erik on that one [19:24:48] don't waste your time speaking to someone who's not involved [19:25:01] you know the technical people at Betawiki [19:25:18] responsible [19:25:37] and if i'd been approached with any actual issue from those people we could probably have figured out some way to coordinate [19:25:40] this never happened, however [19:26:00] so if there were concrete complaints among translators, they either didn't reach the techs, or the techs didn't pass it on to us [19:26:24] so, who's actually got an issue, what is it, and who should talk to whom to resolve it? [19:26:45] Well, I did not want to disrupt the fundraiser ... so I waited until it was over [19:27:50] well, good time for us to prep for next time :) [19:28:01] but we need to actually know what's being asked and who's asking [19:28:10] otherwise we can't really address it [19:30:34] hi, do deleted page moves add towards your deleted edit count? [19:31:35] why? [19:32:33] brion are you around? [19:32:37] Bluegoblin7: no, those are not edits [19:32:45] Mike_lifeguard: thanks [19:32:49] didnt think so [19:32:53] np [19:44:56] i spotted 1.14 is on its way. nice. [19:45:17] thanks [19:59:04] Question: Where can I learn about exporting content from a 1.4.7 MediaWiki for import to a brand new (1.13.3) install? [19:59:28] RSchulz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [19:59:44] it is probably easier to move it as 1.4.7 then upgrade [20:00:15] and mind the nasty charset conversion stuff when going from 1.4 to 1.5 [20:00:21] That's what I'm thinking. They're different systems and separate installs. [20:00:32] The 1.4.7 is sitting there, as is the 1.13.3. [20:00:48] xml export wasn't available for 1.4... but you can use mwdumper to export xml from a 1.4 database, i think. dunno about the charset isse though [20:00:49] Wait... Move then upgrade? [20:01:07] If charsets are the only problem, I can probably deal with it. [20:02:45] RSchulz: mediawiki's installer/upgrader should be able to get you streight from 1.4 to 1.13, without losing anything. [20:02:45] the only thing it doesn't do is fix the charset [20:02:45] How does that work? What do I do? [20:02:45] which was latin-1 in 1.4 and is utf-8 after that. [20:02:45] read the instructions :) [20:02:45] the ones linked above, and the ones in your 1.13 install [20:02:45] OK. [20:02:45] I don't recall the initial configurator asking about content transfer. [20:03:11] you just point it at an existing database. [20:03:17] it doesn't transfer anything [20:03:23] it upgrades the db structure in-place [20:03:29] (always make a backup first) [20:03:39] Uh. What if I can't run them both concurrently? [20:04:09] (They're two OSes on the same hardware. Dual boot, for now, until the old one is no longer needed) [20:04:15] huh? [20:04:17] run both? [20:04:19] what do you mean? [20:04:34] I can't have both MW's running at the same time, if that affects my options. [20:04:47] you shouldn't do that anyway [20:04:51] The MySQL installs are separate, too. [20:04:55] just import the old database, then install the new code. [20:05:07] So it's boot the old system to run the old MW, boot the new system to run the new (empty) MW. [20:05:07] point it at the db you imported. [20:05:15] it'll upgrade the schema, and there you go [20:05:27] ok. it's simple. [20:05:40] boot the old system. make a datanase dump. put it on an usb stick or whatever. [20:05:41] OK. I'll check out the docs you sent. I'm not clear on how the importer is going to get at the old database, though. [20:06:15] convert the dump from latin-1 to utf-8 using iconv. (this is the hacky part. keep a copy of the original) [20:06:25] boot the new system, import the dump into the new system [20:06:37] then run mediawiki's installer, point it at the database you just imorted. [20:06:51] RSchulz: clear now? [20:06:58] Is the dump an MW thing or a MySQL thing? [20:07:04] mysql [20:07:09] Ah. Got it. [20:07:12] use mysqldump to generate it. [20:07:24] Right. I think I've done that once (in a non-MW context) long ago. [20:07:26] mw has xml dumps. not in 1.4 though [20:07:43] Right. OK. Sounds good. I'll be back when I've got it really messed up... [20:07:58] well, you shouldn't do that once, you should do that *often* to make backups :) [20:08:19] Yes. Eventually you get good at messing up and starting from scratch! [20:30:22] Hi, I have a wiki that has all the information in the default community portal (or namespace) [20:30:31] is there a way of moving all of these info into it's own namespace? [20:37:58] Hi, is it possible to do maintenance work without SSH? [20:37:58] Lolsimon: yes/no/maybe [20:38:14] it may be possible in some cases, but ssh is highly recommended [20:38:16] !shell [20:38:16] --mwbot-- Shell access (that is, SSH access, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH) is highly recommended if you want to run MediaWiki. You can install without it, and basic operation will work, but even creating backups or upgrading will be painful without it. Some more involved maintenance tasks may even be impossible. MediaWiki is not designed for minimal environments. [20:38:34] !phpshell [20:38:34] --mwbot-- PHP Shell emulates shell access to a system. Read more about it and download it at < http:mgeisler.net/php-shell/ > [20:38:52] that is the most common and convenient workaround, which sometimes works. [20:39:06] I'll try it - thanks [20:50:14] kwame: Yes. [20:50:27] A standard page move (with the move tab) should do it. [20:50:50] Or if there are _a lot_ and you have command line access, there's a maintenance script, I think. [20:56:40] 03(mod) without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 (10b-jorsch) [20:57:45] 03(mod) without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 +comment (10b-jorsch) [21:01:34] 03(mod) behavior of empty section link [[#]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17006 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [21:07:09] 03(mod) behavior of empty section link [[#]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17006 (10brion) [21:16:52] Marybelle: but I don't want to move page by page on my wiki [21:17:12] Moving the pages on-wiki leaves a note in the Move log and in the page history. [21:17:19] Which is good for transparency. [21:17:38] Marybelle: which script in the maintenance section? [21:18:09] Marybelle: but the point on moving the pages to it's own namespace is for user restriccion access [21:18:28] Read restrictions rarely work. [21:18:54] it's implemented right now in some other wiki, with group access to different namespace [21:19:00] phase3/maintenance/moveBatch.php [21:19:07] That script does batch page moving. [21:19:55] Duesentrieb: Is it normal to see non-textual content in the output of mysqldump on a wikidb? [21:20:28] I followed the instructions on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki and then did a "zless" on the resulting file. [21:20:41] Much of it was plain text, but at one point, there was a lot of binary data. [21:21:15] yes, think about things like page protection, users preferences, etc [21:21:31] if you back up an entire wiki, all that has to be saved tooo [21:21:33] too* [21:22:48] Prodego: That's to me? So the dump is not corrupted and will read OK as long as I don't do something like edit it with a text editor? [21:23:23] I saw a table with "blob" in its name, so no, I'm not surprised there's binary data. Just that it didn't get treated to something like base64 encoding for the purposes of a dump. [21:23:26] it does sound strange... there are serialized php objects in the database, but they are also "readable". but i have never looked at a dump that way. [21:23:29] well obviously I can't tell you if the dump is or isn't corrupted :) I can tell you that seeing non text data in a total DB dump isn't [21:24:03] that said, I defer to Duesentrieb :) [21:24:09] i don't know anything off-hand that would be binary data in the db. but that doesn't mean there can't be anything [21:24:09] Much of it looks entirely ordinary (though I don't know what a MW database contents looks like), but once the binary data starts, it's incomprehensible, of course. [21:24:25] you could always run another dump [21:24:31] and compare [21:24:39] OK. I'll give that a try. I used the --default-character-set=latin1 option, since that seems to apply (according to what's stated at that page) [21:25:16] yea. the charset mess is confusing. and the hack mediawiki uses makes it more confusing. [21:25:18] I can even see text content I recognize from the actual (human-readable) Wiki. [21:26:09] ok I am looking at the DB layout now [21:26:11] The "garbage" starts right after this: INSERT INTO `RW_objectcache` (`keyname`, `value`, `exptime`) VALUES ('wikidb:pcache:idhash:1-1!1!0!1!0!1!0!!en [21:27:01] I believe objectcache can be totally deleted without any problems... Duesentrieb ? [21:27:12] yes. [21:27:18] This could be some artifact of the way less is handling the multi-byte characters. In which case, probalby everything's OK. [21:27:20] you can truncate the table [21:27:30] the installer should do that anyway [21:27:58] I see it displaying some Asian characters in the midst of the gibberish. [21:28:49] It seems to continue normally at the end of that table's contents. [21:28:52] I think it's probably OK. [21:29:02] objectcache shouldn't cause problems [21:29:22] After that, there's lots of very recognizable content. [21:29:28] (Text, that is) [21:29:48] Very few physical line breaks, though, which I assume is just how mysqldump operates. [21:30:14] OK. I'll give it a try. If there's a problem, I'll boot back here to the old system and try something else. [21:30:27] Thanks for your help (again). [21:56:11] Hi, RSchulz again... I'm back running the new 1.13.3 install. I'm not seeing how to load / import the MySQL dump I made on the old (MW 1.4.7) system. [21:59:02] 03(NEW) Redirecting from eo.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17008 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (pa.dohnalek) [22:02:52] RSchulz: mysql < yourdumpfile, or gunzip yourdumpfile.gz | mysql [22:03:07] RSchulz: add aprameters to the mysql call as required [22:03:13] Oh? Bypassing any processing by MW itself? [22:03:20] yes. [22:03:26] mw is involved only later [22:03:27] I already went through the setup page. Is that OK? [22:03:31] Will it be undone? [22:03:39] what you are doing now is simply transfering a mysql database from one system to another [22:03:42] first move, then upgrade [22:03:43] Also, I used a different table prefix in the new and the old. [22:03:51] no, you will have to set up again [22:03:56] kill the generated localsettings file [22:04:00] OK. Very little time lost on that front. [22:04:04] different table prefix will not work. [22:04:19] you can change that latter with some fiddeling. [22:04:21] I'll also have to manually drop all the old tables, right? [22:04:31] you can just drop the database :) [22:04:35] I don't care what the prefix is, I just figured it would be good to have one. [22:04:37] if there's nothing else in it [22:04:55] the prefix is only useful if you have something else in the db [22:04:59] Only the WikiSysop, me and one other user registered. [22:05:02] That's it for "content" [22:05:06] which only makes sense to do if you can't create dbs at will [22:05:27] Oh. I thought the "wikidb" part was fixed and if you wanted to host multiple Wikis, then you needed the table prefixes. [22:07:48] hello, i have this problem: "show preview" works with and "save" doesn't [22:08:29] i've been reading and trying all day to get it fixed, but i failed [22:08:33] RSchulz: no, you can easily use different databases for different wikis. if they are on separate servers, some things become more tricky, but even that is possible [22:08:40] i really need your help [22:08:54] OK. I have no need for anything so fancy. [22:08:55] please tell me how to narrow the problem area [22:08:55] tct13: "save" doesn't work how? [22:09:05] tct13: can we access your wiki? [22:09:30] Duesentrieb: the real page displays the tex syntax, not the images, as show preview does [22:09:50] o_O [22:09:54] that sounds very odd. [22:10:04] please provide a link. [22:10:14] i gave you on private [22:17:36] Duesentrieb: Success! Thank you very much. [22:17:49] RSchulz: check for broken non-ascii chars [22:18:00] in content and in titles [22:18:16] I'll look around. We're all Americans, so there's probably not more than some em-dashes and typographers quotes, but I'll look for them. [22:21:03] Duesentrieb: thank you for your help [22:21:20] the path in LocalSettings was wrong [22:22:56] path is for web and directory is for local [22:43:30] 03(mod) One sees a page as it appeared BEFORE an edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5311 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [22:44:10] 03(mod) One sees a page as it appeared BEFORE an edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5311 (10JSchulz_4587) [22:46:21] where can I change who is allowed to upload images and who isn't? [22:47:34] !permissions [22:47:34] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [22:50:40] i am experienced in editing wikipedia-articles. Now I want to use mediawiki to write an eectronic-book. I want to mark index-terms in articles and have one page with a sorted index. Which extension does this job? [22:51:23] I think bots are usually used for creating indexes [22:52:03] I never used a bot - which would you recomend - my mediawik is running in an intranet. [22:52:35] bots suck :) [22:53:15] JanH: the problem is that the info needs to be stored somewhere. an extension that does this would need to set up an extra db table or something. [22:53:20] this is hard to to cleanly. [22:53:21] Duesentrieb - I can remember that you wrote a bot [22:53:28] JanH: yes, it sucks :) [22:54:43] Ok, why not an extra table [22:55:03] What do you mean with sucks? [22:56:59] It's my mediawiki - why should it suck? [22:58:26] I want to mark index-terms in articles and have one page with a sorted index. Which extension or bot does this job? [22:58:28] 03(NEW) Remove .hiddenStructure from CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17009 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (happy_melon) [22:59:02] JanH: using a bot for functioanlity that should be provided in wiki is ugly and clumsy. it may get the job done, but it's not the best option i ngeneral. [22:59:09] most bot based solutions are nasty hacks. [22:59:26] an extension for this would be nice [22:59:30] i don't know if one exists [23:00:12] 03(FIXED) Add "WP" alias to NS_PROJECT in the French Wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16887 +comment (10brion) [23:00:24] an extra table would be the way to store it. but an extra table means the extension has to integrate with the installer, and hast to have its own setup routine. [23:00:33] at least, if it's to be done "right". [23:00:38] so it makes things complicated [23:01:51] I have 500 articles - maybe I don't need a table. Maybe the Index-page can be produced dynamicaly? [23:03:56] Is teh extension DynamicPageList a proper solution? [23:04:04] 03(NEW) namespaceDupes sometimes breaks on double conflicts - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17010 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (brion) [23:05:18] Duesentrieb: Is the extension DynamicPageList2 a proper solution? [23:05:25] 03yaron * r45720 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/ (INSTALL README RELEASE-NOTES SRF_Settings.php): New version, 1.4.2, featuring Joel Natividad's new 'ploticus' format [23:05:57] I don't know. can it do that? [23:06:07] also, wasn't DPL2 merged back into DPL? [23:06:58] I am not quite shure - I hoped to find someone here who knows a littlebit more. [23:08:47] You are rihgt dpl2 -> dpl: but is it a proper solution for my task? [23:11:38] *AaronSchulz stares at bug 5311 [23:11:57] brion: would Article::getId() trying the master help? [23:12:04] Someone here with experineces with the extension dpl ? [23:12:39] hmm, i think we've played with pulling various bits from the master at times, and i'm not really sure what the current state is [23:14:15] return 0 incorrectly will make new pages act non-existent [23:15:03] brion-away: I mean the user seems to be redirected a split second after the edit [23:16:06] *AaronSchulz stares at ChronologyProtector [23:24:17] *AaronSchulz looks for brion-codereview [23:24:23] *brion nom nom nom [23:24:32] im in ur code, eatin ur revisions [23:25:36] so when's MW going to jump on the bandwagon and switch to git :P [23:26:01] we'll see :D [23:26:25] I think git is only slightly less confusing then template syntax [23:35:39] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 +comment (10ameliorate) [23:38:18] Is it possible to restrict the inclusion of an extension to sysops in LocalSettings.php? [23:38:34] uh... probably not [23:38:36] Not sensibly, no. [23:38:45] You should maybe explain what actual effect you're after [23:38:56] and restrict the functionality of the extension, rather than the extension itself. [23:40:05] I want sysops to only be able to use a swf extension; add it to a template, lock the template down to prevent user editing. The users could use the template all they want. I was hoping to restrict the inclusion of the extension to sysops only [23:41:04] restricting the inclusion of the extension to sysops only would mean that normal users wouldn't be able to use it [23:41:25] correct, that is the intention [23:41:33] as in, they wouldn't see it [23:41:37] ah [23:41:47] Skizzerz, what about only allow to use it in Mediawiki: namespace, or force the need on a whitelist on that mediawiki: ns? [23:41:59] that's an alternative [23:42:13] but it's still icky [23:42:23] I think it's easier to add [23:42:47] So I would need to modify the extension itself to only be available via editing to the MediaWiki: namespace? [23:42:52] it's definately easier to add [23:42:58] having the extension look at who added it into the page is too complex and intensive [23:44:38] *AaronSchulz wonders what brion thinks of bug 11613 [23:46:05] we override it because we had multiple bug reports of it being set incorrectly by default in a way that was non-functional [23:47:43] Is there a blacklist for tags a group can use? If this means I need to edit the code that handles posting/editing I would rather just go without the extension [23:47:43] tekmosis, no [23:47:43] tags are not per-group [23:48:00] Alternatively if I can just add the HTML itself as a sysop somewhere for the embed code rather than relying on an extension I'm open to that as well, if such a possibility exists [23:52:55] 03(WONTFIX) Recentchanges feed doesn't show the editor's name/IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13045 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [23:55:21] 03(mod) Wiki for Wikimedia UK - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16996 (10mediawiki) [23:59:25] 03valhallasw * r45721 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (refreshLinks.inc refreshLinks.php): (log message trimmed) [23:59:25] Fixes for r45514 and r45516: [23:59:25] * Removed deprecated constructs [23:59:25] * Replaced SQL queries with their functional equivalents [23:59:25] ** Removed deleteBatch function: equivalent to $dbw->delete() [23:59:26] * Allow slave servers to catch up before deleting more rows [23:59:30] * Fixed to use a new, unbuffered, slave database connection