[00:00:27] 14(DUP) Include user/creator in RSS feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16949 +comment (10brion) [00:00:29] 03(mod) Recentchanges feed doesn't show the editor's name/IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13045 +comment (10brion) [00:00:52] 03soxred93 * r45722 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiWatch.php: Fix comment leftover from ApiLogout [00:01:41] 04(REOPENED) Recentchanges feed doesn't show the editor's name/IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13045 +comment (10brion) [00:05:56] how would I make an XML dump of all of the wiki's pages? preferrably through a cli script? [00:06:15] dumpBackup.php [00:06:17] !backup | chuck [00:06:17] --mwbot-- chuck: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [00:06:18] chuck: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki#XML_dump [00:06:33] wow :P thanks [00:08:17] that looks perfect [00:09:45] 03(NEW) Autolink URLs in CodeReview SVN commit messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17011 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (brion) [00:15:19] oh, *awesome*, there's a library that does it, exactly what I need [00:18:01] hmm [00:22:15] *|X| hates getting an "Call to protected method" error [00:23:27] hi, in "deleted edits" is it only mainspace that counts? or do other things count? [00:23:34] and do redirects/moves etc count also? [00:26:38] 03aaron * r45723 10/trunk/phase3/includes/diff/DifferenceEngine.php: Cleaned up single rev page diffs (bug 11527) [00:32:54] 03(FIXED) Diff on page with one revision shows "Next" link to same diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11527 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [00:34:37] bah [00:35:15] 03(NEW) Attach source files to uploaded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17012 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (ryan.reich) [00:39:34] AaronSchulz: the preferences button needs to be adjusted for RTL languages -- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45596#code-comments [00:39:54] 03aaron * r45724 10/trunk/phase3/includes/diff/DifferenceEngine.php: Fix for r45723 [00:43:22] brion: I replied on r45587 [00:45:05] yay [01:19:26] Is it possible to tweak the wiki in such a way that you HAVE to be logged in [01:19:31] to view pages [01:19:45] !access [01:19:45] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [01:20:10] bah, took me too long to look that up :P [01:20:15] heh [01:21:12] never try to race a bot, i guess [01:21:23] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 +comment (10ameliorate) [01:21:27] *werdnum is a robot. [01:21:57] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 +need-review (10ameliorate) [01:23:51] ok, this'll work [01:23:54] take care... [01:46:04] 03aaron * r45725 10/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php: Added notifyRC2UDP() convenience function [01:51:37] 03(mod) Tracking category for __NOINDEX__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16979 (10public) [01:51:37] 03(mod) Track magic word usage in page_props - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14685 (10public) [01:54:16] wontfix is the most common aaron's way of fixing of bugs [01:56:45] Danny_B: xD [01:56:57] it's such a convenient resolution to use [01:57:36] Danny_B: Seriously. :| [01:57:47] "MediaWiki crashes on startup" "Sorry, its dinnertime, WONTFIX" [01:57:58] heh, win [01:58:29] MrZ-man: lmao [01:58:34] It's. * [01:58:43] more like "You Wikipedians need a break! WONTFIX!" [02:00:09] Danny_B: nonsense [02:00:29] brion: how is review coming? [02:00:43] oh, speaking of code review [02:01:10] someone who knows about it, would writing a Git adapter extending "SubversionAdapter" work? [02:03:59] chuck: without knowing what "SubversionAdapter" is, I'd think git and svn are different enough to fail in general [02:05:07] Callek: SubversionAdapter is an abstract class that just says you have to define some methods like getFile, getDiff, etc [02:05:23] chuck: what does it *do*? [02:06:37] .. [02:07:27] it's an abstract class [02:07:27] it doesn't do anything [02:09:24] my point being, what callers, or am I missing some point here [02:09:38] code for the sake of doing _nothing_ doesn't (or shouldn't) exist [02:09:58] so my Q is what is it that you are trying to do, and why is extending from the svn abstract useful [02:11:28] read the code [02:11:37] AaronSchulz: well, maybe i just have bad luck, but several of my bugs have been wontfixed by you recently [02:13:22] chuck: long story short, no time :-P [02:13:35] chuck: I was just commenting on difference between svn theory and git [02:13:46] Callek: I realize there are differences [02:13:59] do you know what an abstract class is? [02:14:10] 03(mod) Recentchanges feed doesn't show the editor's name/IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13045 (10danny.b) [02:14:24] this was one of them [02:14:46] yea, but what is it abstracting was my Q :-) [02:16:44] oh, it's not abstracting anything, i mean it uses the PHP "abstract" type, so other classes abstract it [02:17:56] Why don't any extensions use $wgExtNewTables? It makes me so mad >< [02:18:16] svn is just painful to use once you know git. [02:19:30] theocrite: I totally agree [02:19:43] 03(NEW) Patch 1.13.3 missing IEContentAnalyze.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17013 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (myers) [02:19:52] git is so much better in so many different ways [02:20:26] chuck: I think I am just miswording myself, "what do callers generally do" [02:20:34] *Callek equates php abstract type to .idl [02:20:56] 03(NEW) Blocked users can use Special:UserRights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17014 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (public) [02:20:58] AaronSchulz: ^ :-) [02:21:09] Callek: callers? [02:21:22] chuck: places where the abstract class's methods are called [02:21:36] aka: calling the places where they are actually defined [02:22:14] other classes just extend the abstract class, and they have to define the abstract methods [02:22:44] *Callek understands that concept == idl [02:22:57] chuck: but what calls into said abstract methods and why [02:23:06] nice to see that famous people use mediawiki [02:23:15] as in, what is the FUNCTION of the abstract [02:23:27] what solution/design goal/design constraint is it working with? [02:24:29] well there are multiple subversion adapters [02:24:46] one uses the pecl extension, one uses the command line, and an unimplemented one uses a JSON proxy [02:25:34] *Callek is not explaining himself well... [02:26:01] chuck: we both understand concept of abstract -- http://www.devshed.com/c/a/PHP/Using-Abstract-Factory-Classes-in-PHP-5-to-Work-with-Online-Forms/1/ is a quick google search showing abstrac class + two class that define methods for it [02:26:08] yeah [02:26:31] chuck: to use that page as an example, why would |createInputBox| be called, and from where (usually) [02:26:48] chuck: but s/createInputBox/whatever_methods_svnAbstract_has/ [02:27:28] oh.. [02:28:00] Callek: codereview does something like this: [02:28:15] $svn = SubversionAdapter::newFromRepo( 'somerepo' ); [02:28:26] and SubversionAdapter is the abstract class [02:28:42] *Callek comprehends the abstract of this [02:28:43] and that newFromRepo method will automatically return the best working subversion adapter for the person's setup [02:29:40] I just mean, given your example, what would $svn expect to do from said abstract class [02:29:46] what is the contract of those methods [02:30:22] $svn->print() for example (if exists) could be designed to print to stdout only [02:30:27] or print an html-formatted string [02:30:34] it would expect to be able to call the abstract functions (getFile, getDiff, getDirList) [02:30:40] 03(mod) Blocked users can use Special:UserRights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17014 +comment (10stevend811) [02:30:48] and each of the adapters that abstract SubversionAdapter use a different method of getting files, for example [02:30:50] but by making it a contract of what to expect when its called we can easily allow other callers to work [02:30:58] one uses an extension, one uses the svn cli command, etc [02:32:35] chuck: my point being, $svn->getDiff() has input/output that makes sense in git? [02:32:35] chuck: what and why would the code call getDiff() [02:32:35] does it make any assumptions about svn functionality, independant of how its implemented [02:32:35] oh, i understand you now [02:32:35] I haven't looked into any of that now [02:32:45] I'm just going to try the code with a subversion repo, then look into it more [02:32:46] because it can be an abstract on SVN which lets the implementation work completely differently between choices [02:33:10] or it could be a SCS abstract but named SVN because it has some (relatively easy to work around) assumption on the SVN model [02:33:31] git++hg for example, have changeset for entire repo, CVS does changeset per file [02:33:39] to use a large example that can put a muck in the cogs [02:34:07] *Callek isn't completely familiar with svn, my least used SCS [02:34:58] *Callek admits seemingly random people who you've never met coming here asking what I did, you are right to assume I don't understand php abstract [02:37:27] TimStarling: , brion just read the Network world article http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/011309-wikipedia-digital-media.html?netht=rn_011309&nladname=011309. Not a word about Tim's rewrite of file repo. Still, decent article. [02:39:18] bluhhhh [02:39:40] i'm burned out, not gonna finish code review just now. might poke at it later, otherwise i'll poke it over in the mornin [02:40:59] oh noes [02:56:04] 03(mod) Special:Export should mention multiple pages in one URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9889 (10jidanni) [02:58:40] 03(NEW) Gan wikipedia special page: recent changes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17015 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (songchang2000) [03:02:05] 03(mod) Special:Export all pages in namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9474 (10jidanni) [03:04:12] 03(mod) Gan wikipedia special page: recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17015 15enhancement->major; normal->high (10songchang2000) [03:10:01] Seriously? Again? [03:10:24] TimStarling: Ping. [03:10:47] yes? [03:10:49] http://gan.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?uselang=en [03:11:03] Translations are broken on yet another wiki. :-( [03:12:43] Can you revert the file, please? [03:12:43] from within function "User::addToDatabase". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry 'Mr.Z-man.sock' for key 2 (10.0.0.234)". [03:12:43] what's the problem exactly? [03:12:48] TimStarling: The translations got mixed somehow so RecentChanges is now redirecting to RelatedChanges. [03:13:19] <|X|> Is there a way to add an API function through an extension? [03:13:20] Thus, nobody can monitor the wiki... [03:13:31] |X|: I think SiteMatrix does it. [03:13:37] and when visiting that wiki, I got that db error... [03:13:39] So, yes? [03:13:47] <|X|> Is the source to Sitematrix available? [03:13:49] GlobalBlocking does as well [03:13:52] SVN. [03:13:58] Where everything else is. [03:14:03] 'cept config files. :P [03:14:43] *|X| is an idiot [03:15:11] *|X| had no clue about the $wgAPIModules variable [03:18:33] Is it possible gan.wikipedia isn't using MessagesGan.php ? [03:20:51] *Marybelle sits here quietly. [03:31:01] *|X| is now getting a "Cannot connect to DB error" [03:31:23] <|X|> Oh, maybe it's because MySQL isn [03:31:25] <|X|> 't installed [03:52:08] <|X|> Argh... /me can't figure out how to add a new message to the API from an extension... [04:40:08] The PHPMathPublisher TeX alternative extension is printing its code directly onto my page. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/PhpMathPublisher_alternative [04:50:55] :o thats not in the correct namespace [04:54:21] are you addressing me? [04:54:39] {{sofixit}} :P [04:54:39] no, just pointing out a fact [04:54:58] i'm scared that someone will attack me/do it wrong [04:59:28] hi do you guys have any idea why is mediawiki causing my server's load to be 100%? [05:02:23] ajushi: is it all the time or just when you do something like image uploading? [05:52:42] rar [06:41:31] 03(NEW) Page creation notification email is sent when a watched page is deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17016 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (Emufarmers) [07:13:15] Hi everyone! Does anyone know if there's a puTTy version available for Mac? [07:13:39] are you asking because you need it to connect to svn.wikimedia.org? [07:14:57] I need to connect to my own wiki. I switched from pc to mac recently. [07:15:22] i guess you mean connect to the host, not the wiki itself ;) [07:15:26] you might try the ssh client that comes with the OS [07:15:36] correct [07:16:52] do you have its name by any luck? [07:17:47] Command line? [07:17:55] Just type ssh foo@example.com [07:19:47] http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ssh+clients+for+mac&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a [07:22:08] Marybelle: first week I use a mac :( where would the command line by on this computer?!? ;) [07:22:49] p858snake|BDay: I tried that. First result that shows up sux... so I'd rather go by people's recommendations [07:22:55] mathieu_: Applications --> Utilities --> Terminal. [07:23:11] you're terminal [07:23:14] Marybelle: Thanks [07:23:26] *Splarka saves up for the good ones, not the cheap shots [07:24:24] Splarka: Has Marybelle been teaching you the difference between contractions and possessives? [07:26:21] werdnum: do you follow our rapport? [07:27:00] Thanks Marybelle. I'm in :) [07:27:27] No problem. [07:28:00] *Splarka gives werdnum the hubris-fail award [07:28:21] *p858snake|BDay gives Marybelle a Pen and Paper barnstar >.> [07:28:44] I have a real barnstar. [07:28:47] Betsy gave me one. [07:28:52] hey.. by the way, the reason why I needed root access is because my wiki seems to not refresh the number of articles... it seems stuck at a certain number [07:29:14] werdnum: the only reason i choose that one is that it is up for deletion [07:29:40] are you adding new pages to a content namespace with a link while not making them valid redirects? or at least [[ somewhere on the page? [07:30:45] Splarka: I imported some pages from wikipedia and they don't seem to have all been counted [07:31:09] ew, import [07:31:09] try null editing one to see if it increments [07:31:18] mathieu_: Run a maintenance script? [07:31:20] (but yah, run the maintenance script refreshlinks or somethin?) [07:31:22] To rebuild your tables? [07:31:26] Jinx. [07:31:31] you're a jinx [07:31:37] Prove it. [07:31:38] what's a jink? [07:31:45] Doesn't matter. [07:31:47] nevermind [07:31:54] like when you're 2 years old and riding in the car [07:32:01] and you punch your sister when a Volkswagen goes by [07:32:03] "Slug bug!" [07:32:10] :) [07:32:12] > A common slang term used when two people say the same thing at the same time (said as a game amongst the young). [07:32:14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinx [07:32:17] You're a sl.. this is too easy. [07:32:28] yes, and you're still terminal [07:32:34] yep [07:33:04] what would be the basic maintenance script to run to find out if something got stuck? [07:33:29] and where are all the other 172 members in this room? [07:34:37] !sleeping [07:34:37] --mwbot-- Yes, we know there are a lot of people in this room. No, we don't know why they aren't all tripping over themselves to answer your question. Maybe it was esoteric, or off topic, or dumb. [07:35:11] That is SO funny! [07:35:13] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RefreshLinks.php [07:35:20] probably run this, and see if the count changes [07:35:31] but do realize.. it is a running count most of the time, as rebuilding is slow [07:35:37] and not everything counts it properly [07:35:40] or even the same [07:36:04] I think ^ that one rebuilds the article count too, maybe [07:36:27] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:UpdateArticleCount.php [07:36:30] or that one [07:37:48] argh! I did something wrong: -bash: maintenance/updateArticleCount.php: No such file or directory [07:37:58] hmm i should move that article on the mediawiki wiki to the extenstion but i'm too scared to do it >.> [07:38:35] mathieu_: If your wiki isn't very big, you can run rebuildAll. [07:38:37] It shouldn't take too long at all. [07:39:00] yep. I have a small wiki [07:39:15] no comment on that last one! [07:39:48] yah, I dunno about these guys with huge wikis, millions of usernames etc... maybe they're compensating for something [07:41:27] You know what they say about people with large wikis. [07:41:45] They have large servers? [07:42:00] Large database tables. [07:42:11] is there a different way to enter the script on a mac? I can't get into the maintenance subdirectory :( [07:42:28] mathieu_: cd maintenance [07:42:31] cd maintenance ? [07:42:38] Yeah. [07:42:38] yep. just did [07:42:39] yes, that fixes compact discs [07:42:53] try dvd maintenance too [07:42:58] mathieu_: Now you should be in the maintenance directory. [07:43:08] Assuming you started in the wiki folder... [07:43:10] -bash: cd: maintenance: No such file or directory [07:43:25] ls [07:43:27] pwd [07:44:00] Those two are pretty helpful. The first lists all (non-invisible) files in your directory. The second lists your present working directory (a.k.a. where you are right now). [07:45:53] 03(FIXED) Gan wikipedia special page: recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17015 +comment (10public) [07:46:40] how would I switch to another directory from where I am? seems like I'm somewhere else. Its name is "en". Thanks! [07:47:13] cd where/you/want/to/go [07:47:40] gosh! I know people who would actually type that :) [07:48:02] why does every single windows app try to create an icon on the desktop? [07:48:36] !windows sux [07:48:36] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "windows". You might try: !bom !downgrade [07:48:48] lol [07:49:32] the problem isn't windows, just third-party apps [07:49:38] yksinaisyyteni: It makes new programs easier to access. [07:49:59] Marybelle: for people who can't operate the start menu? [07:50:03] I like the feature, personally. You can pretty easily throw away the shortcuts if need be. [07:50:11] it even highlights new programs nowadays... [07:50:29] The start menu can be onerous. And not all programs go directly in there sometimes. Or sometimes there are lists you have to read. [07:50:40] And I'm rather lazy. Big icon --> double-click. [07:50:57] well, that's fine if you have like... two programs. but doesn't your desktop end up a little cluttered? [07:51:28] I usually only use Windows for about ten minutes before getting frustrated and closing the VM window. ;-) [07:51:35] So I don't worry about a cluttered desktop. [07:51:44] only keep those that you use often on your desktop [07:52:05] And most installers give the user an option to install desktop icons or not. So /me shrugs. [07:54:10] Thanks Marybelle. it's currently rebuilding the links tables [07:57:24] is there any books that you would recommand about MediaWiki? on the administration of the wiki for exemple? [08:00:23] I got MediaWiki Administrators' tutorial guide, by Mizanur Rahman. Pretty light but good to start with. Wikimedia should publish its own. [08:01:18] mathieu_: Reading mediawiki.org is usually pretty helpful. [08:01:25] And read the defaultsettings file. [08:02:17] I was looking for something to read in the train or plane [08:03:02] This is wiki software. Most docs are on the Web. ;-) [08:04:13] *p858snake|BDay pokes Marybelle with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/PhpMathPublisher_alternative p858snake|BDay: So move it? :-) [08:04:51] I know. And I think about the poor guy who would have to update the book collection everytime there's a new feature or something [08:05:44] mathieu_: yah, poor guy, selling loads of books [08:06:15] there is probably something printable on wikibooks.org (do they use the Collection extension that exports to PDF?) [08:07:09] Marybelle: 1) its mah birthday so i shouldn't need to do anything 2)if i move it something will break and everyone will blame me [08:07:11] 03(NEW) Importing to arz.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17017 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (gaghaly) [08:07:28] Splarka: Yes http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Administrator%27s_Handbook and yes. [08:07:34] http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Collection/render_article/&arttitle=MediaWiki_Administrator%27s_Handbook&writer=rl [08:08:03] hi do you guys have any idea why is mediawiki causing my server's load to be 100%? [08:08:22] mathieu_: go to Kinko's and have that printed [08:08:34] Marybelle: some people are just awsome. [08:08:35] ajushi: Poor administration of it? [08:08:37] p858snake|BDay: Done. [08:08:45] mathieu_: I'm well aware. :-) [08:09:14] Marybelle: do you have any suggestions on how to fix it? [08:09:22] mathieu_: you might want to ask the safri users about that >.> [08:09:46] ajushi: is it at 100% all the time or just when you try to do something, eg: upload a image? [08:09:55] it only happens on certain times during a day but i checked and apache is only serving 12req/s [08:10:04] ajushi: No idea. [08:10:05] p858snake|BDay: happy birthday btw! [08:10:09] Did you know that according to the current GNF Free Documentation Licence, I could actually make a book out of it and sell it as long as I don't alter the content? [08:11:09] mathieu_: you can alter the content, you just need to attribute, link back, include the full license documentation, other crap [08:11:19] p858snake|BDay: it happens on certain times during the day but i don't think i'm having lots of visitors. i checked using apache's mod_status and i'm only getting 12req/s [08:11:39] mathieu___: you can alter the content, you just need to attribute, link back, include the full license documentation, other crap [08:11:40] your own server or shared hosting? [08:11:57] p858snake|BDay: own server [08:12:14] sure [08:18:15] Splarka: yep. that what this SF based publishing company did by coming up with the book "How Wikipedia Works". Just throwing some ideas [08:18:29] and you can use their new versions, GFDL baby [08:18:33] even sell it, heh [08:18:56] mathieu___: but printed versions aren't as handy as you might think [08:19:14] so many versions, so many changes, so many extensions/settings that totally change syntax [08:29:31] 03(mod) New type for #ask queries: Total! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14835 +comment (10planetenxin) [08:43:46] moin [08:51:09] uh hi? [08:52:48] 03(NEW) Automated smallest-CIDR calculation from within Checkuser UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17018 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (mapellegrini) [08:53:04] bah, checkusers should have base-2 to base-255 conversion as a prerequisite [08:55:00] "You're a binary math prerequisite" [08:55:19] That's what she said. [09:10:33] rofl [09:29:18] does someone here have a recommendation for a python library for generating HTML output from wikepedia source? [09:34:27] !parsers | jdahl [09:34:27] --mwbot-- jdahl: For alternative parsers, see . For an (incomplete) specification of mediawiki syntax, see . [09:35:10] Duesentrieb, thank you [09:36:08] jdahl: note that none of them can handle templates, and most extension tags won't work either. [09:36:24] it's good enough for the simple formatting stuff generally. Images may get tricky already though. [09:37:03] Duesentrieb, from a quick scan mwlib looks interesting. I need basic formating, but images and equations as well [09:37:25] mwlib appears to be what pediapress uses. so it's probably pretty advanced. [09:37:32] try it. [10:50:06] How does mediawiki extracts keywords from the content of articles? [10:59:27] peleg: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [10:59:36] private function addKeywords() [10:59:48] * This function takes the title (first item of mGoodLinks), categories, existing and broken links for the page [10:59:48] Splarka, thanks! [10:59:48] * and uses the first 10 of them for META keywords [11:03:37] Splarka, ooh, that's not pretty. [11:03:48] heh [11:03:50] obviously [11:03:52] I thought it is smarter [11:04:06] mediawiki disappoints me time after time lately [11:05:11] don't look under the hood [11:14:18] hello, something has happened with my wiki, some images don't want to open (i get blank white screen with no errors), i have checked and the file is physically on the server, what can be the problem [11:14:27] permissions are fine also [11:16:15] but this isn't for all images, only for some [11:21:31] ok, i'm really lost, image *is* in the database, and everything seems (to me) to be as with other images [11:22:07] hello everybody i have a little question [11:23:32] i started a wiki via mediawiki on my server, and is there anything i ave to do so google finds my wiki? on the testpage it says there i no text which can be searched on my site but in the wiki i have about 100 articles? [11:24:33] mmack, way few days and check again [11:24:38] wait* [11:24:44] google will crawl the site when it find links to it from other pages [11:25:26] you can check the logs of the access to your site and look for the crawls, and then (after a bit of wait) google search will be handing out links to your wiki [11:26:20] ahh okay [11:26:36] were can i find the acces log? [11:27:17] err. i'm not really sure, it will be somewhere where apache (i assume you are using apache) puts them, i don't run my own server, so i can't help you there [11:30:45] hi guys.. I've lost my admin password; is it just a matter of editing the mysql user_password entry for Admin with a new md5 hash? [11:31:12] hmm okay thanks anarhist [11:31:23] i will search for it :-) [11:31:38] np [11:31:47] now only if somebody could help me with my prob [11:35:44] anyone? anyone? bueller? [11:35:49] :> [11:37:29] gamla_kossan, check FAQ [11:42:00] !passwordsql [11:42:00] --mwbot-- UPDATE user SET user_password=CONCAT(':A:', MD5('password')) WHERE user_name='John Smith'; This will reset the password for the user with user_name 'John Smith' to 'password'. [11:43:12] Hi! I'm trying to set short url, after changing htaccess and LocalSettings I can access the wiki through wiki2/Page_TITLE. But wiki still generate non-pretty links on articles and redirects to "mediawiki/index.php?title=Main_Page". Here my config: http://pastebin.com/d21c23246 [11:44:14] I've tried setting "$wgUsePathInfo = "/wiki2";" But it gives the same result as " = true;" [11:46:34] gamla_kossan, did you see ^^ [11:47:24] :> yeah, splarka quit before I had a chance to thank him/her though. [11:47:24] ok [11:47:47] thx for asking though :> [11:47:52] pfx, http://pastebin.com/m5ae08713 this is what i have [11:48:42] the last 3 lines are mine there [11:49:25] Anarhist: I will try it now. [11:51:11] Anarhist: it didn't help, I get "mediawiki/index.php?title=Main_Page" again. [11:51:31] And links generated in the same way too. Looks like it didn't get any config change. [11:51:58] pfx, you have that in FAQ too [11:52:16] sorry, pfx, i can only show what i have [11:52:32] Anarhist: thanks. [11:52:39] Sasa^Stefanovic: Hm, will check. [11:53:04] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [11:53:06] there [11:53:09] so are there even a remote hint as to what i'm suppose to do to look for the solution to my problem? [11:54:39] the problem happened after the update, and during the update i temporarily messed up images directory, so could mediawiki have "forgotten" about the images people tried to access during that mess-up? [11:55:52] Sasa^Stefanovic: I've read that article and set all things according to it. [11:56:09] If you look on my pastebin you will see it. [12:05:19] is there a way to force mw to give me more errors or something, so that at least i don't get blank screen [12:05:36] !debug [12:05:36] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [12:06:27] !blankpage [12:06:27] --mwbot-- A blank page usually indicates a fatal PHP error. See !error [12:06:32] Hm... I've tried to set "$wgScriptPath = "/mediawikiqweqweqw";" My installation still works. But it shoudn't, right? [12:06:54] !error [12:06:54] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [12:07:07] pfx: "works" is relative. you will probably still see the main page. but editing would fail, i guess. [12:07:26] Anarhist: you already got it right :P [12:07:35] Duesentrieb: sditing works too... Magick? [12:07:38] q; -) = [12:08:12] pfx: dunno. magic, caching, whatever. i'm not quie sure what scriptpath is used for, and when. [12:09:51] per default it's also used to build the style path, etc... but you may have changed that [12:09:51] i still get blank page... q; -((( = [12:09:51] How can I break LocalConfig? :) [12:09:51] also, if you decoupeled $wgSCript, editing would work [12:09:51] pfx: break the syntax [12:09:51] just add x x x x x somewhere [12:09:51] Anarhist: so, look into a) pep's error log and b) apache's error log. make sure phph *has* an error log. [12:09:51] Duesentrieb: nothing happened :D [12:09:51] pfx: so you are editing the wrong file. [12:10:35] I even deleted it. Duesentrieb: mediawiki/config/LocalSettings.php... [12:10:48] pfx: the copy in the config dir does nothing. [12:11:02] the real settings file is right in the installation root [12:11:10] mediawiki/LocalSettings.php [12:11:18] Oops. heh :) Duesentrieb: thanks. [12:11:30] "config" is a misnomer. that dir should be called "install". because it's for the installer only. you can delete the dir once you installed. [12:12:25] Duesentrieb: I remember something like this. I've installed wiki manually half o year ago. Now I used GoDaddy hosting connection for automatic installation. [12:12:34] Duesentrieb: thanks a lot :) [12:12:49] np [12:15:34] there is nothing in the error logs provided either... q;-/= [12:26:52] so what else can it be, if not a php error? [12:27:06] i am getting no error messages nor error logs still [13:02:03] 03(mod) write an API module that interfaces with Checkuser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15129 +comment (10soxred93) [13:06:31] hi [13:06:48] is there anyone who can speack with me? [13:06:56] I have a code problem on mediawiki [13:07:09]