[00:01:55] 03siebrand * r45856 10/trunk/extensions/ (181 files in 133 dirs): [00:01:55] Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2009-01-17 23:02 UTC) [00:01:55] * rebuilt all messages files [00:02:04] 03aaron * r45857 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (bug 16957) Add show/hide to Preferences for option on Special:NewPages [00:02:18] 03(FIXED) Add show/hide to Preferences for option on Special:NewPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16957 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [00:03:46] 03siebrand * r45858 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: Fix omission in r45857 [00:11:49] Is there a way to be e-mailed all CodeReview posts, out of curiosity? [00:15:13] 03siebrand * r45859 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/README: Add installation hint [00:23:48] 03david * r45860 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/LqtModel.php: Do two simple queries instead of a single monstrous one. Fixes a possible injection bug, too. [00:46:02] 03(NEW) Log summaries are rendered differently to admins when contents have been concealed by RevisionDelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17060 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (happy_melon) [00:46:03] 03(mod) Enable RevisionDelete on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15644 (10happy_melon) [00:59:35] 03shinjiman * r45861 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Old/Late Time Chinese [01:04:31] And... RevisionDelete now has five more dependencies. Great. [01:17:26] :D [01:17:29] *:E [01:17:45] Is there any way to view parser functions like one would view normal code? [01:17:51] you know, with indents [01:18:14] there has to be some way of viewing it without it being messy as hell [01:46:51] anyone know if there's an irc chat for wikipedia contributors? [01:47:02] #wikipedia [01:47:07] And you already asked this today. [01:47:14] oh. if i got an answer, I missed it [01:47:17] sorry marybelle [01:47:20] and thanks [01:47:22] No worries. [01:47:33] it's hard to follow the scrolling sometimes [01:47:37] :-) [01:47:46] :) [01:47:50] noseless [02:03:39] just in case anyone missed this in the buffer: anyone have any experience with the ProofreadPage extension? I installed the extension but there isn't much documentation what to do next [02:04:35] realazthat, it's used on Wikisource, I'm pretty sure. You might want to look there for community-written docs. [02:07:32] ty [02:14:51] is there any way to get more verbose error messages when I get a "Template fetch failed for http://some/url" for template transclusions [02:15:41] When the template doesn't exist, I think it renders as plain text... that can probably be tweaked to be an error message or something I guess [02:21:34] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 (10ameliorate) [02:22:49] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 +need-review +patch (10ameliorate) [02:46:21] 04(REOPENED) IRC recent changes feed does not list patrol log entries - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16604 +comment (10marcin.cieslak) [02:56:29] Where would I go to debug a "Template fetch failed" error? [02:56:37] I can't find that string anywhere in MediaWiki's source [02:56:42] oh, maybe it's a message [02:56:44] *doh* [02:56:59] nevermind :P [02:58:01] 03mrzman * r45862 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialBlockip.php): (bug 17045) Prefill the block form with the options of the existing block when modifying an existing block [02:58:49] 03(FIXED) Block form should preload fields when changing an existing block - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17045 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [03:00:29] 03(mod) IRC recent changes feed does not list patrol log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16604 normal->high; +comment (10bretthillebrand) [03:04:25] Gah [03:04:32] I just signed my bugzilla post :P [03:05:46] with ~~~~? [03:06:04] haha. nice :) [03:07:13] TimStarling: Yeah..... [03:07:27] *Prom_cat curses about the mediawiki skin :P [03:08:10] please tell me im not the only one to have done that today [03:08:18] *Prom_cat searches for ~~~~ [03:08:53] Prom_cat: Doesn't everyone do that ;) [03:09:39] ST47: haha, yep [03:15:25] what's a good way to clear the transclusion cache [03:16:46] chuck: For a particular page or all of it/ [03:16:47] ? [03:16:50] all of it [03:17:10] Set the epoch to today's date? [03:17:13] Or something? [03:18:13] 03(NEW) 140 list is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17061 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (tooelemknbrd) [03:19:06] eh that didn't fix it [03:19:15] I'm trying to fix problems with transclusions [03:19:37] I keep getting Template fetch failed, but when I try Http::get('the.url.to.the.template') in eval.php, it works [03:19:45] truncate table transcache; [03:19:54] Hey, got a question. I followed the steps to make Short URLs, and now that I did, The page doesn't look right, like the CSS is messed up. What should I do? [03:20:33] wow, I had no idea that there was a TRUNCATE TABLE command in mysql. [03:20:35] what steps? [03:20:50] *werdnum always uses DELETE FROM table, which does the same thing. [03:20:59] hi [03:21:05] "Logically, this is equivalent to a DELETE statement that deletes all rows, but there are practical differences under some circumstances." [03:21:34] TimStarling: I did that, yeah [03:21:37] *werdnum looks [03:21:37] well basically [03:21:59] @TimStarling: The ones at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [03:22:02] i have a problem after installing mediawiki 1.6 ( only php4 on the server) [03:22:50] Tails0600: under "setup steps? [03:23:12] LocalSettings.php is missing chmods for confic is 777 [03:23:17] werdnum, DELETE FROM is much slower for large tables. But it's transaction-safe. [03:23:21] resets auto_increment, speed, transaction safety, error handling. [03:23:27] Simetrical: yeah, I read the article :) [03:23:28] Yeah, and other stuff. [03:23:33] @TimStarling: Yes, under "Recommended how-to guide(setup used on Wikipedia [03:23:34] Tails0600: is your wiki online? Can you give me the URL so I can see it? [03:24:01] hello , is there any gmail extension for mediawiki ? [03:24:03] Yes, http://wiki.sonicblast.org [03:24:39] good morning [03:24:41] where can i create a new LocalSettings.php? [03:24:59] Astroh: where's default one? [03:25:20] 03(mod) "Failed to parse" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16488 +comment (10Commander.Keane) [03:26:36] Tails0600: you've set it up as if MediaWiki was installed at http://wiki.sonicblast.org/w/ [03:26:51] but it's not, it's at http://wiki.sonicblast.org/, no "w" [03:27:14] Ok, what should I change then? [03:27:16] there was no one created [03:27:46] !intersection [03:27:46] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "intersection". [03:27:52] !dpl [03:27:52] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [03:28:03] Tails0600: which way do you want to do it? leave MediaWiki where it is and change the settings, or move MediaWiki and fix the settings to be the same as the manual? [03:28:22] @TimStarling, if we could leave it where it is, that'd be great [03:28:49] the instructions has this: [03:28:55] $wgScriptPath = '/w'; # Path to the actual files. This should already be there [03:29:10] hay TimStarling can you please review and see if the pathc on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 will work? [03:29:10] I've some problems with DynamicPageList, I've installed Extention:Intersection but not working [03:29:11] change that to $wgScriptPath = ''; [03:30:17] instead of this: [03:30:19] Mr-Fine: What's the problem? "not working" tells us nothing. [03:30:20] Alias /wiki /var/www/w/index.php [03:30:25] you want this: [03:30:29] AH, ok, there it goes [03:30:31] Alias /wiki /var/www/index.php [03:30:36] but that's probably what you've already got [03:30:49] can someone send me an LocalSettings.php for 1.6 ? [03:30:50] Yeah, I changed it now [03:30:58] Now it looks like normal, thank you very mich! [03:31:07] Anyone know why I would be getting "Template fetch failed" errors for scary transclusions? [03:31:24] no problem [03:31:31] See ya [03:32:20] Creating LocalSettings.php... [03:32:20] Installation successful! Move the config/LocalSettings.php file into the parent directory, then follow this link to your wiki. [03:32:39] it says creating but it doenst [03:32:48] Mike: Just a min. [03:32:56] Are you looking under config/? [03:33:01] yeah [03:33:09] there is only a index.php [03:33:24] permissions, perhaps. [03:33:54] Sometimes I create files and have to refresh the file browser. [03:34:03] In order to see newly-created files. [03:34:56] lol [03:34:59] done [03:35:00] thx [03:35:42] Mike: Please see PM [03:36:49] I've created an article, then put Categories required by Template:Politics but nothing happen [03:37:00] cya [03:42:45] any big difference between Extention:DPL and Intersection? [03:51:03] rar [04:06:02] Question: I'm working on an extension that will be reading and writing information to some supplementary database tables. If I use the database wrappers in Mediawiki to conduct database queries and writes, do I need to escape any user inputs to prevent SQL injection attacks, or do the MediaWiki database wrappers handle that for me? [04:11:35] Anybody who can help me with Extention:Intersection [04:12:31] why I try to put Extention codes in Localsettings.php=file, my wiki got some errors [04:14:13] anything I missed? [04:15:39] "some errors" eh? [04:16:04] yah [04:16:49] like Templates are not opening, I cant editing a page [04:18:36] Supaplex: How can I fix it? [04:19:11] I wanna use Extention:Intersection my wiki, but when I try to put codes on localsettings. these error occurd [04:20:09] He gets a white page. Should enable error reporting & see what's breaking. [04:20:36] yeah. I have no idea what error he's talking about. :) [04:21:13] Mike: How can i enable error reporting? [04:21:22] I gave you the link already [04:21:35] oh i missed [04:21:37] I was dc [04:22:03] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_Symptoms#You_see_a_Blank_Page [04:22:11] Trying again...:) I'm working on an extension that will be reading and writing information to some supplementary database tables. If I use the database wrappers in Mediawiki to conduct database queries and writes, do I need to escape any user inputs to prevent SQL injection attacks, or do the MediaWiki database wrappers handle that for me? [04:23:42] hoggwild5: probably. But I am not a reliable source [04:24:32] Mike: [04:24:43] Fatal error: Call to undefined method SkinModern::link() in /home/tayyebo/public_html/VoP/extensions/intersection/DynamicPageList.php on line 459 [04:25:45] Mike_lifeguard: I can see methods in class Database that do this, but I don't see where they're being utilized....I'm wondering if I need to call the sanitizing method, or if it gets called when you're using methods such as Database::select or Database::insert, etc. [04:26:37] I have no idea [04:27:10] Mr-Fines: check if you have mismatched revs for intersection and skins maybe? [04:27:11] OK, thanks....I'll keep looking....if anyone else knows the answer and can save me some time, I would appreciate hearing from you :) [04:27:36] no [04:27:54] i didnt get you [04:28:47] but offcourse, something is wrong with line 459 [04:28:54] update your installation? [04:29:03] why? [04:29:49] because that's what I'd do :) [04:29:53] it shouldn't do that [04:29:57] yah [04:29:58] so maybe the problem has been fixed [04:30:09] i have customized my skin [04:30:17] ok, so then you broke something probably [04:30:19] is this is a problem? [04:30:24] hhmm [04:30:28] Backup. [04:30:30] Then update. [04:30:34] yah i replace page title with site name [04:30:37] Did you modify it by changing the php? [04:30:42] and put page title on main [04:30:57] we normally recommend you don't do that - instead you should edit the system messages in the wiki [04:30:58] yah [04:31:14] how/ [04:31:30] yeah i do that with edit in modern.js [04:31:38] MediaWiki:Common.css is css that gets served to everyone for example [04:31:41] !skin [04:31:41] --mwbot-- Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: [04:31:53] the last link there is probably what you want [04:32:29] Mike_lifeguard: bug 17whatever about the block form was fixed if you didn't already see [04:32:29] backup means everything will be lost like customized ?skin [04:32:54] did I comment on that or something? [04:33:08] you added yourself as a CC I think [04:34:02] oh, yep [04:34:37] Mike: I just use php file to remove toolbox and nothing else [04:34:50] I used modern.js to customize skin [04:35:11] and maybe i delete 2 lines from modern.php file [04:35:14] MrZ-man|lazin: how do you feel about putting the confirm re-block checkbox back in instead of lazing? :D [04:35:30] get aaron to do it, he was the one who removed it [04:35:44] blah [04:35:54] *Mike_lifeguard checks why it was removed [04:37:10] because he didn't notice that he had added it 9.9 [04:37:29] *Mr-Fines waiting for help [04:37:39] Has anyone looked at Aaron's Patrol RC feed modification yet to find where he stuffed up? [04:37:40] (or whoever added it) [04:38:22] Mr-Fines: make sure the fuction SkinModern::link() is in the php [04:38:28] and not broken [04:38:53] you mean by in modern.php? [04:39:41] yes [04:39:48] its not there [04:40:08] you should probably have it [04:40:20] it can't use a function in that file if the file doesn't exist [04:40:30] which I guess is what it's whining about [04:40:59] any specific line? [04:41:12] I have no idea [04:41:15] i mean where to put fuction SkinModern::link() [04:41:52] wherever it's supposed to go in modern.php [04:46:09] which I can't find [04:46:12] oh, he's gone [04:46:20] well blah to you too, mr fine [04:46:58] what was that, a reenaction of Reservoir Dogs? [04:47:09] Mr-Fine, Mr-Z, Mr-ZM, Mr-Mike [04:47:16] mr-mwbot [04:47:20] yeah, but he's annoying, I'm not :o [04:47:29] *Mike_lifeguard hopes [04:47:30] annoying to try to read all that M- scrollback [04:53:41] Mike_lifeguard: FYI: I found my answer....and it is yes, the Database wrapper does the encoding if you use it properly. Thanks for responding. :) [04:53:53] no problem [05:17:06] 03(NEW) The citations do not seem to be working. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17062 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (marun2) [05:17:08] 03aaron * r45863 10/trunk/phase3/includes/PatrolLog.php: No need to send autopatrols to udp [05:18:00] 03(FIXED) IRC recent changes feed does not list patrol log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16604 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:27:34] I see some Wikia extensions that use a thing called ?action=ajax, does that exist on regular MediaWiki? [05:28:47] yes [05:33:13] ah, cool [05:33:18] so AjaxResponse exists, too? [05:34:34] yes, I don't see any documentation so you'll just have to follow the an example from an extension like CategoryTree [05:34:47] or a core feature like the watchlist [05:54:32] 03rarohde * r45864 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Export.php: Remove misplaced whitespace in export header. [06:07:59] *I-MOD pokes at Parser.php [06:08:15] GIVE ME YOUR SECRETS [06:16:04] !ask [06:16:04] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [06:30:13] 14(WFM) The citations do not seem to be working. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17062 +comment (10ameliorate) [06:31:37] ok....someone with deep knowledge of the parser: where can I get access to the unexpanded template text? I need to do some replacement on the text before it gets expanded or inserted into a document. [06:32:08] would it be somewhere in Preprocessor_DOM.php expand function? [06:44:43] 03(mod) Hiding log entries with RevisionDelete does not automatically hide the corresponding page history entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17053 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [06:45:12] I-MOD: you might check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks under the 'Page Rendering' table, specifically around ' InternalParseBeforeLinks' or such [06:45:35] ooooh [06:45:40] thanks Splarka [06:46:03] hint: hooks help, hacking hurts [06:48:50] Splarka, in my case, i'm doing context sensitive variable replacement, which is fairly hard to do with the current setup [06:50:46] *Splarka pokles TimStarling [06:50:57] which hook is most immediate after the preprocessor? [06:53:05] InternalParseBeforeLinks [06:53:12] Why is it that if you have English as your language you still get everything in RTL on RTL wikis? [06:53:28] there's nothing between the preprocessor and the HTML security pass [06:53:32] Shouldn't everything be switched to LTR if your language is set to LTR and vice versa [06:53:32] ? [06:53:34] maybe we should add one there [06:53:45] Mike: because all content and design is designed around RTL on an RTL, probably [06:53:57] and is InternalParseBeforeLinks thrown before templates are expanded? [06:54:08] but there is an open bug (or should be) for an &dir=ltr/rtl overrride param [06:54:09] it's because the content language is RTL [06:54:22] which, one would think, is the important thing [06:55:04] I-MOD: check $text in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/InternalParseBeforeLinks it should hold what you need (should it?) [06:55:09] I-MOD: Splarka asked me what's the next hook *after* the preprocessor [06:55:17] you want a hook before the preprocessor [06:55:38] I think he wanted during, but after sounded closest for "i'm doing context sensitive variable replacement" [06:55:55] I would think that the content should be in whichever orientation it is, but the interface should be whichever orientation your language is. [06:56:23] on hewiki for example, I should get LTR interface with RTL content [06:56:36] Mike_lifeguard: that's nice [06:56:56] Splarka: during? [06:56:59] I-MOD: be sure to listen to Tim though, since he wrote it [06:57:05] heh [06:57:06] ok [06:57:34] what sort of during? [06:57:38] hmmm...this says after templates [06:57:42] Tim: during template expansion, at the DOM output stage, or the non-dom equivalent, or whatever [06:57:45] TimStarling: do you have a moment to review a bug patch? [06:58:19] *Splarka confuses self too [06:58:33] Betacommand: maybe [06:58:43] TimStarling: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 [06:58:53] I-MOD: you might want to explain exactly what it is you want to do [06:58:55] basically, i need to replace some strings (in the template or even the page being viewed) before the template is expanded so I can get the state of the headers that I'm looking for [06:59:21] right [06:59:21] i'm looking to add a variable that gives the current heading number [06:59:43] but not the TOC heading number [07:00:00] source document/template heading number before expansion [07:00:32] to edit a section in the main document? [07:00:35] i have the code required to do the processing, i just have to insert a call to it in the right place [07:00:45] TimStarling, that is one possible use for it [07:02:35] 03mrzman * r45865 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (bug 17054) more descriptive error messages for Special:RevisionDelete [07:03:13] 03(FIXED) The error message at MediaWiki: revdelete-nooldid-text should be more specific - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17054 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [07:04:53] it's not particularly simple, and I don't think you actually do have the code required [07:05:14] for proper header parsing? [07:05:27] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1605 [07:06:32] i already have the code that parses the final document and inserts header numbers [07:07:43] i really just need to functionalize it [07:08:26] did you write that patch? [07:08:32] yep [07:09:00] honestly, it could generate the TOC as well [07:09:47] 03(mod) "show/hide" links should not be unavoidably in monospace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17055 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [07:09:55] rar [07:10:04] that reminds me, I need to report a bug in trunk TOC generation (if it still exists) [07:10:07] !rar | yourself [07:12:54] there's a few things wrong with it [07:13:36] it's kind of like formatHeadings() implemented in doHeadings() except with more bugs [07:13:50] my patch? [07:13:53] yeah [07:13:55] :D [07:14:05] yeah [07:14:26] you seem to have introduced a whole new concept of section number which doesn't correspond to anything [07:14:57] the one I introduced is supposed to be the same as what is generated in the TOC [07:15:04] it's not though [07:15:08] no? [07:15:15] because of slight differences between your algorithm and the one used in formatHeadings() [07:15:24] crud [07:15:36] i thought i had reproduced it [07:15:54] did you copy and paste? [07:15:57] no [07:16:25] well, if you didn't, it's unlikely to be the same, and if you did, it's a waste of space [07:16:40] i agree [07:17:22] i'll have to think of a better way to do this [07:18:17] why did you bother adding magic words? are they meant to do something? [07:18:48] oh I see [07:18:53] + case 'sectionnumber': [07:18:53] + return '{{sectionnumber}}'; [07:18:54] cute [07:19:01] :D [07:19:06] since i'm parsing it out later [07:19:09] i know [07:19:26] it's bad [07:19:34] *I-MOD headdesks [07:19:59] if it's not a magic word, it gets parsed as a template, right? [07:20:04] it'd be interesting to uncover those [07:21:09] unfortunately, I don't understand the parser as fully as I'd like [07:22:03] you shouldn't use double braces as a main-pass special value [07:22:20] you should use HTML comments or strip markers [07:22:53] otherwise it will be possible to create them in all sorts of fun ways, like {{open}}sectionnumber{{close}} [07:24:04] *sigh* [07:24:59] so are you looking to implement this functionality as an extension, instead of a patch? [07:25:54] first of all, is your application looking for the section numbers used in edit section links, or the ones in the TOC? [07:25:59] that's important [07:26:21] the patch attempts to implement those in the TOC [07:26:44] I also want to add a different variable to provide section numbers as used in the edit section links [07:27:24] right now, i'm focusing on the numbers in the edit section links [07:27:33] which is why i need the pre-expansion text [07:28:26] ah [07:28:30] actually you don't [07:28:37] no? [07:28:46] *I-MOD 's mind explodes [07:28:58] the edit section links aren't added until formatHeadings(), which is after template expansion [07:29:11] how do you think formatHeadings() knows what the section numbers are? [07:29:50] touche [07:30:16] the answer is that preprocessor expansion adds markers [07:30:28] $this->parser->mHeadings[] = array( $titleText, $bits['i'] ); [07:30:28] $serial = count( $this->parser->mHeadings ) - 1; [07:30:28] $marker = "{$this->parser->mUniqPrefix}-h-$serial-" . Parser::MARKER_SUFFIX; [07:31:00] where $bits[i] is the section number and $titleText is the name of the template [07:31:41] this is in PPFrame_Hash::expand() and PPFrame_DOM::expand() [07:32:00] yeah, that's where I was starting to look [07:32:53] you could have your heading number variable add a similar marker [07:33:15] which would then be expanded in the main pass with the value of the current section [07:33:26] which you could determine by looking at the section markers [07:37:13] man, my brain is fried [07:38:11] it's 0130 here [07:40:24] i'll take a look at this tomorrow when i've had a chance to reset [07:40:35] thanks for all the input/insight TimStarling [07:40:41] but it *is* tomorrow. HAH. [07:40:47] true [07:41:02] *Supaplex watches I-MOD's brain ooze out of his ears like unset jello [07:41:10] hehe :) [07:41:13] *I-MOD takes a lick [07:41:17] mmmm....fruity [07:42:59] ok, good night [08:44:29] Hello all [08:44:35] Can I ask an incredibly stupid question? [08:45:09] you just did [08:45:14] LOL, nice [08:45:15] try to make the next one less stupid [08:45:17] 03dale * r45866 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (16 files in 10 dirs): [08:45:17] * big update to sequencer [08:45:17] * basic support for reading and editing template parameters [08:45:17] * improved clipedit submenu system [08:45:17] * style updates [08:45:18] * fixes for add_media_wizard [08:45:22] * improved support for firefogg upload response parse [08:45:43] I'm trying to add references (sources) to the first article on my brand-new wiki, and it's not working. [08:45:58] What is the right way to get the Wikipedia-style auto-numbered references? [08:46:38] Adding the [URL] creates the [1] link, that's fine. But how can I make the "References" section display the same URL? [08:46:47] !e Cite [08:46:47] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite [08:47:27] There's no built-in functionality? [08:47:47] It makes the table of contents automagically - I assumed it would do the same for refs. [08:51:12] you know what they say about when you 'assume' anything, you make an ass out of you, and Montenegro [08:52:49] Splarka has a thing against people that sketch the faces of the dead? [08:53:02] Cite is in the "maybe" column of extensions to be merged to core [08:53:32] Cite is pretty helpful. [08:53:34] Though the entire ref system blows. [08:54:36] i never got that padlock symbol next to some urls.... [08:55:11] p858: .me TLD [08:56:37] Splarka: i know but tbh [[Angela Montenegro]] > [[Montenegro]] [08:59:19] 03nikerabbit * r45867 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/autoexport.php: * Fixed a regression in autoexport [09:01:20] Thanks! Installed & working as it's supposed to. [09:01:43] Any suggestions for other useful extensions that I should just install *now*, since there's a 99.9% chance I'll need them later? [09:02:36] !e ParserFunctions | grendling [09:02:36] --mwbot-- grendling: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions [09:02:41] always handy [09:02:57] *Marybelle nods. [09:03:20] thank you [09:03:29] I'm a total n00b :( [09:03:46] SyntaxHighlight is pretty good if you'll be dealing with code at all. [09:03:55] 03rotem * r45868 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he. [09:07:42] 03siebrand * r45869 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: [09:07:42] Small cleanup on messages added in r45865 [09:07:42] * "(s)" removed to avoid confusion [09:07:42] * removed a newline [09:20:47] Agh... evil cite tags [09:25:09] Splarka, before I go making a strange extension designed to pull ref tags out of some WikiText and move them, know of any other way to do it? [09:26:04] The issue is this: If you do something like [[{{{1}}}]] in a template, then it's not possible for a user to input |SomenameCitation for that name [09:26:23] Because the ref tag breaks any sort of link, annotation, or whatever [09:26:54] {{#tag:ref| }} ? [09:27:42] huh? [09:28:52] *Splarka tries to parse that [09:29:37] you mean like a way to simulate something like {{#ifref:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}|[[{{{1}}}]]}} ? dunno of any such [09:30:17] Well then, guess I'm creating negref [09:30:49] {{#negref:inputtext|data replacement|ref replacement|pattern}} [09:31:13] {{#negref:{{{1}}}|$data$|$ref$|[[$data]]$ref$}} [09:43:52] 03(mod) The error message at MediaWiki: revdelete-nooldid-text should be more specific - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17054 (10happy_melon) [10:21:45] http://dev.wiki-tools.com/wiki/Negrefs Whohoo... now to commit [10:28:32] Dantman: nice edit url redirect on that wiki, btw. [10:29:15] Action paths [10:29:50] No redirect though [10:30:15] Dantman: getting fatal on history page. [10:30:49] History works fine for me [10:31:34] Dantman: strange. I'm anon. Requesting http://dev.wiki-tools.com/wiki/Special:Version and http://dev.wiki-tools.com/history/Negrefs gives me empty pages. [10:32:38] Oh, out of date skin files [10:36:09] hello everybody [10:36:44] My Extention:Intersection is not working properly and causing errors on my Wiki [10:44:16] 03dantman * r45870 10/trunk/extensions/Negref/ (. Negref.php): [10:44:16] Committing negref extension (Negotiate References). [10:44:16] Allows the location of references to be negociated to avoid issues in [10:44:16] templates where you want to use something like [[{{{1}}}]] but don't [10:44:16] want the link to break if the user inputs a ref tag. [10:48:03] Dantman: r45870 references an i18n file which was not committed (from what I can see, it should only contain a negref-desc message) [10:49:14] Screw desc messages... [10:49:19] 03dantman * r45871 10/trunk/extensions/Negref/Negref.php: Fixing reference to nonexistant file. [10:57:53] Does anyone know why an arabic site name isnt working? [11:01:43] Prom_cat: http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D9%81%D8%B1%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8?contexttitle=&input=%7B%7BSITENAME%7D%7D&removecomments=1 [11:01:50] whatcha see there? [11:01:59] My Extention:Intersection is not working properly and causing errors on my Wiki [11:02:44] Splarka: I see the site name. But on http://ar.linux.yourwiki.net I see question marks. [11:02:58] well you didn't say that [11:03:07] Splarka :) [11:03:25] Prom_cat: I can se [11:03:27] see^ [11:03:29] please be less specific next time [11:03:36] you make it too easy [11:03:47] Splarka: Sorry [11:03:53] just say "I have a problem" and wait for someone to help you [11:03:56] [11:04:13] *Splarka hides [11:04:18] heh [11:04:20] hahahaha [11:04:26] Prom_cat: you loose [11:05:57] 03(NEW) automatic review for own rollback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17063 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (prolineserver) [11:06:20] Prom: maybe you used the wrong encoding when saving your localsettings *shrug* [11:07:44] Splarka: Interesting point, ill follow that up [11:10:21] Prom_cat: maybe see http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ ... InitialiseSettings.php [11:10:31] check wgSitename for whatever voodoo they do [11:12:35] *Prom_cat giggles, Ive been too specific [11:14:14] My Extention:Intersection is not working properly and causing errors on my Wiki [11:14:34] you don't need to repeat yourself [11:15:29] p858snake: wha? [11:15:30] so What i do? [11:15:46] Prom_cat: He's with me :D [11:24:56] Prom_cat: i was pointing out to Mr-Fine [11:25:22] Hello, I'm writting a mediaiki extension and I want to add javascript on a page. I'm using $wgOut->addScript(''); to add my script in the head, but it still doesn't work. is there something specific to do that I'm not aware of ? [11:25:27] ok [11:28:19] всем приветик) [11:32:47] help me please!!!! [11:33:54] !ask [11:33:54] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [11:38:00] !ask | Guest98275 [11:38:00] --mwbot-- Guest98275: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [11:40:22] Guest98275: Can we talk here please [11:40:29] Rathor then PM'ing me [11:40:58] @dump [11:41:03] :/ [11:41:21] Whats the link for the brin dump on mwbot? [11:41:50] nvm [11:41:52] found it [11:44:30] *Mr-Fine is Back [11:44:33] I was away :D [11:45:45] Prom_cat: I've installed Extention:Intersection but its not working:( [11:46:06] hello [11:46:07] I can see it on Speical:Version but not in working [11:46:20] Nikerabbit: Yes [11:46:30] no? [11:46:55] what? [11:47:42] *Mr-Fine waiting for Reply [11:50:56] hi all [11:50:59] Just so everyone knows what they have missed, Guest98275 doesnt speak good english and is russian. He needs help with "I need to do premoderation in wiki" [11:52:16] yes, i will try to explain my task [11:52:57] is there any Extention for creating BOTs? [11:53:46] hi Wuzur [11:53:51] when user wants to add some material in wiki, the material should be send to administrator for approving [11:54:57] and only when administrator aprroves the material,it can be posted in wiki [11:55:18] is there any Extention for creating BOTs? [11:55:30] FlaggedRevs? [11:55:41] Mr-Fine, bots aren't extensions [11:55:48] ok [11:55:56] but how can we create them? [11:55:57] No, bots are (by definition) not extensions [11:56:14] You can write a program in any language which interfaces with the wiki in whatever way you want. [11:56:30] It might be helpful to tell us what you want the bot to do, or ask in #wikipedia-en-bag or something [11:57:10] pywikipediabot is a python bot library which you may find useful. AWB is another program which is less flexible, but easier to use [11:57:12] nobody is there [11:57:35] !pywikipediabot [11:57:35] --mwbot-- pywikipediabot is a bot framework written in Python that allows for easier automated actions on a wiki. For more information, see . [11:57:53] ok [11:58:01] I've installed Extention:Intersection but its not working:( [11:58:49] I can see it on Speical:Version but not in working [12:04:16] 03(NEW) Make Drafts optional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17064 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Drafts; (umherirrender_de.wp) [12:06:19] 03(mod) Make Drafts optional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17064 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [12:07:07] whell.. where in sourses can i find code of the button "save page" ? [12:07:57] Guest98275: I'd go with the flaggedrevs extension as Dantman suggested [12:08:35] this gives you the possibility to flag revisions by a group of users which have a flagging right [12:09:14] !FlaggedRevs | Guest98275 [12:09:14] --mwbot-- Guest98275: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs [12:09:20] Try that [12:11:38] 03(FIXED) Make Drafts optional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17064 +comment (10ameliorate) [12:12:01] Thanks, I'll try now [12:12:30] I've installed Intersection but my wiki is not working properly. What should I do now? [12:14:18] 03(mod) SVG - Request installation WenQuanYi ZenHei for better Chinese gothic fonts rendering - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13716 +comment (10skjackey.tse) [12:18:23] I need defauly copy of Modern.php=file [12:18:27] is it possible [12:20:09] Mr-Fine/Mr-Fines: Please stop repeating the question, we have seen it already, if someone knows the answer to the question they will help you. [12:21:51] I'm talking about modern.php file [12:22:08] no before that [12:22:20] oh sorry for that [12:30:14] moin [12:51:25] !hack [12:51:25] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "hack". You might try: !hacker !hesaidsemantic [12:51:52] !hesaidsemantic [12:51:52] --mwbot-- http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/576/hesaidsemanticga2.jpg [12:52:19] what rubbish [12:52:57] dammit bot don't know what we want to know :D [12:56:00] !botnoob | Mr-Fine [12:56:00] --mwbot-- Mr-Fine: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. [12:57:10] hi, in the monobook's main.css it says /* the left column width is specified in class .portlet */ where do i find that? [12:59:22] lower down main.css where it saays .portlet [13:00:51] thanks, sphenxes03 [13:00:55] sorry [13:01:00] thanks, Splarka [13:01:07] (tab can't guess well enough [13:01:19] some IRC clients' tab can, oh he left [13:10:35] Hi there [13:11:11] 03(NEW) onfocus() for the search field - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17065 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (retopf) [13:12:03] I have a question about parentheses in article names [13:12:41] When a article link has parentheses in it, wikipedia does not percent-encode it [13:12:57] but on my mediawiki, they are percent encoded [13:13:13] how do I change this?? [13:13:45] 14(DUP) onfocus() for the search field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17065 +comment (10ameliorate) [13:13:47] 03(mod) Option to focus cursor in search box on main page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1864 +comment (10ameliorate) [13:24:20] I have problems with FlaggedRevs installation..Run maintenance/archives/populateSha1.php - You don't have permission to access /fond/wiki2/maintenance/archives/1.php on this server. [13:24:39] what to do? [13:25:33] you might need to cmod the file so you have permission to access it [13:27:36] I have chmod 777 populateSha1.php [13:29:22] 14(DUP) automatic review for own rollback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17063 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [13:29:25] 03(mod) Any revert to a flagged revision should be auto-flagged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14074 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [13:33:06] 03(mod) Any revert to a flagged revision should be auto-flagged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14074 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [13:36:30] to illustrate my problem, see the page http://tcharlss.hd.free.fr/wiki/Test [13:36:50] the parentheses are percent encoded in the link [13:40:10] wikibugs, excuse me, i don`t understand what you want me to do...:( [13:41:03] wikibugs is a bot [13:41:09] it doesn't want you to do anything [13:42:12] 03(mod) Make Drafts optional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17064 (10umherirrender_de.wp) [13:45:38] 03(mod) Gender switch in user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 (10Gerard.meijssen) [13:53:16] is MediaWiki:Anonnotice work now ? [14:11:05] 04(REOPENED) Make Drafts optional - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17064 +comment (10rene.kijewski) [14:22:03] 03(mod) Make Drafts optional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17064 normal->low (10bretthillebrand) [14:24:08] Is there a standard draft for parsing mediawiki markup? [14:28:09] nope [14:28:30] Thought I had read somewhere there was maybe a group working on one.... [14:29:11] it isn't possible [14:29:19] say what? [14:29:40] I wanna make my Wiki private [14:30:49] !private [14:30:49] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "private". You might try: !botnoob !secrets [14:32:14] !botnoob | Mr-Fine [14:32:14] --mwbot-- Mr-Fine: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. [14:32:29] !faq | Mr-Fine [14:32:29] --mwbot-- Mr-Fine: Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ [14:32:47] !access | Mr-Fine [14:32:47] --mwbot-- Mr-Fine: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [14:34:18] 03(mod) Gender switch in user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 (10danny.leinad) [14:36:55] Hi, thanks for your software. However archlinux have a problem with the wiki. Can you help us? (just answer here and i'll bring it on) http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12822 [14:42:13] 03siebrand * r45872 10/trunk/extensions/TitleBlacklist/TitleBlacklist.hooks.php: Switch parameters $2 and $3 for 'titleblacklist-forbidden-move' to fit the message ""$2" cannot be moved to "$3", because the title "$3" has been banned from creation." [14:42:39] 03(mod) Gender switch in user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 (10Gerard.meijssen) [14:43:24] wtf [14:43:29] user who don't like features? [14:47:44] yes [14:55:47] ? [14:56:41] Do anyone have a clue to what we could do here? http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/12822 [15:00:34] hairball: There have been some recent upgrades to the searching, depending on what you use for that... [15:00:43] hairball: 1) update 2) do 1) first [15:01:08] I think we use MWSearch [15:01:20] if that doesn't help you could try lucene [15:01:53] no idea what we use wiki.archlinux.org [15:02:05] hmm [15:02:27] keep in mind that google search wasn't that much better, atleast for my example.. [15:02:48] but if you think it might help.. [15:03:36] as a general rule, Google has good searching [15:03:56] the exact case they're complaining about sounds like they want it to guess exactly what page they're thinking of [15:04:01] which is not going to happen [15:04:15] but if it's a general problem, then upgrading may improve results [15:16:22] Hello [15:16:30] It's possible to insert unicode symbols into a wiki? [15:16:57] yes [15:17:33] MinuteElectron: Are there some special tag for that? [15:17:54] like hex number ? [15:18:25] Anyway, our wiki uses UTF-8 :) [15:22:17] no [15:22:21] just raw unicode [15:25:16] utf-8 to be exact [15:25:46] I see, thanks [15:26:09] if it's a character you can't type (or don't want to), you can use ꯍ [15:26:12] I would like to write some code equivalent to avoid possible corruption when someone edites it, but wel... [15:26:36] yksinaisyyteni: 0x21a6 [15:26:53] timofonic: huh? [15:27:01] yksinaisyyteni: ↦ ? [15:27:14] yes [15:27:15] yksinaisyyteni: That's the hex equivalent to the unicode symbol I'm interested [15:27:22] or ↦ [15:28:18] ekimmargni, nonono.. we just wan't the search engine to favour results that have the searterm in the title.. [15:28:28] *searchterm [15:28:42] wouldn't that be a good idea? [15:28:57] ok, well give the upgraded search a go [15:29:32] Thanks, enhydra yksinaisyyteni Nikerabbit and MinuteElectron :) [15:30:47] 03(mod) Gender switch in user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [15:37:43] *Mr-Fine is Back [15:41:31] 03(mod) Gender switch in user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 (10Gerard.meijssen) [15:46:06] 03(mod) Gender switch in user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 (10Eugene.Zelenko) [15:49:57] UserMailer.php, line 43; $this->reaName = strval( $realName ); [15:50:04] there's a "l" missing [15:50:28] How do I make an image link to a different mediawiki page? [15:50:40] do I have to use the img tag directly? [15:54:02] You can't use the img tag directly. [15:54:08] !botnoob [15:54:08] --mwbot-- I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. [15:54:25] rjune, you can do [[Image:Foo.png|link=mypage]] in recent MW versions. [15:54:33] Not sure if that's in 1.13, but it's certainly in 1.14. [15:58:49] Are there some wiki tag that is "show this line in entire form only, not cut it"? [15:59:16] timofonic, start the line with a space? [15:59:17] 
?
[16:00:12] 	Simetrical: Not exactly, but something like certain text showed entirely and not cut it, so show it in the next line if not fits in the current line
[16:00:45] 	What do you mean "cut it"?
[16:01:22] 	Simetrical: A piece of text, not showing a part of it in the next line but in it's entire form in one of the lines
[16:01:44] 	You mean it shouldn't break lines?
[16:01:59] 	Simetrical: appears to not be in 13, I'll look at upgrading to .14
[16:02:21] 	Simetrical: Yes, show it in the next line if not fits in the current one. It's just a small piece of text I want to show it in entire form without line breaking
[16:02:37] 	Simetrical: Like a math formula or certain expression...
[16:03:06] 	Simetrical: Breaking the line could make the meaning different or confussing
[16:04:54] 	rjune, 1.14 isn't released yet, I don't think.  It should be usable, though.
[16:04:55] 	Simetrical: This is what I mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-breaking_space
[16:05:10] 	timofonic, you can insert non-breaking spaces with  .
[16:13:00] 	Excuse me, does FlaggedRevs exist for mediawiki-1.6.11?
[16:13:00] 	Does mwbot support variables?
[16:13:46] 	or its analog?
[16:15:18] 	!flaggedrevs
[16:15:18] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
[16:21:39] 	03yaron * r45873 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/README: Improved explanation
[16:22:16] 	03yaron * r45874 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/SpecialReplaceText.php: Fixed bug introduced in version 3.1
[16:23:19] 	03yaron * r45875 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ (README ReplaceText.php): New version, 0.3.2
[16:28:26] 	Please, can anyone help me? I added {{nowrap begin}} and {{nowrap end}} to certain lines and  is showed. Anyone could say me how to fix it? Look at the table on the end for an example of the problem http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/SCI/Specifications/SCI_in_action/Parser
[16:38:09] 	03yaron * r45876 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ReplaceText.i18n.php: Added new replacetext_return value
[16:38:27] 	03yaron * r45877 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/SpecialReplaceText.php: Added link back to form
[16:39:26] 	The same piece of text works correctly under wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Timofonic/tes2t
[16:42:57] 	03(mod) Any revert to a flagged revision should be auto-flagged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14074  (10prolineserver)
[16:43:55] 	03(NEW) Image and text conflict, if image is on the left side of screen - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17066 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (juliusz.zielinski)
[16:46:17] 	03yaron * r45878 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/SpecialReplaceText.php: Added same 'return to form' link to 'no replacements found' message
[16:55:04] 	03(mod) Image and text conflict, if image is on the left side of screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17066  +comment (10juliusz.zielinski)
[16:55:33] 	How to add one CSS-skin to Special:Preferences#prefsection-1 in own wiki?
[17:00:31] 	03mkroetzsch * r45879 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (12 files in 2 dirs): removed obsolete (commented-out) code after recent changes, added more documentation on data value representation
[17:23:31] 	hey
[17:39:55] 	03(NEW) Drafts of protected pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17067 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Drafts; (matthew.britton)
[17:40:54] 	Aleksandrit: you have to make a skin
[17:41:43] 	look in the skins folder where you installed MediaWiki
[17:53:35] 	03(mod) The error message at MediaWiki: revdelete-nooldid-text should be more specific - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17054  (10mrzmanwiki)
[17:55:28] 	!skins | Aleksandrit 
[17:55:28] --mwbot--	Aleksandrit: Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: 
[18:07:16] 	14(DUP) Image and text conflict, if image is on the left side of screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17066  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[18:07:16] 	03(mod) text is covered by image in FireFox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10272  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[18:12:43] 	03(VERIFIED) IRC recent changes feed does not list patrol log entries - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16604  +comment (10marcin.cieslak)
[18:16:05] 	argg
[18:16:12] 	can someone tell me if they can see legalintellects.com
[18:18:06] 	Yes.
[18:18:12] 	ok..
[18:18:15] 	im ready to lose my mind
[18:18:20] 	i keep losing the DNS
[18:18:36] 	its like... unpropagating
[18:24:01] 	It shows up for me on two out of four computers I try it on in different parts of the world.
[18:24:21] 	50%
[18:24:23] 	weird right?
[18:24:24] 	after 12 days
[18:24:50] 	The ones in New York and Texas gave the info back.  One in Amsterdam gave an empty answer, and one someplace I'm not sure of timed out.
[18:25:57] 	The one I don't know about is in Seattle, Washington.
[18:26:37] 	So it works for me in Dallas (or maybe it's Austin?) but not Seattle.
[18:26:52] 	Interesting.
[18:27:58] 	it works where i am... only half the time
[18:28:25] 	what do you think would be the least sloppy way to add sitemeter code to my wiki?
[18:28:48] 	JonnyK- legalintellects.com's nameservers are listed as ns1.probook.ca and ns2.probook.ca. Those two nameservers are also supposed to be serving their own names, but when they're actually queried ns1 (208.110.68.202 according to the glue from .ca) returns NXDOMAIN and ns2 (208.110.68.203) doesn't respond.
[18:29:07] 	Works in Michigan
[18:29:21] 	oh... so i should be making ns1 and ns2  .legalintellects.com i guess
[18:29:48] 	dang
[18:29:55] 	JonnyK- well, if you're going to have ns1.probook.ca as the nameserver for probook.ca, it should actually answer for ns1.probook.ca
[18:30:26] 	My wiki always shows the same wrong IP address of the users. How does mediawiki determine the IP? Does anyone know how to fix that?
[18:30:38] 	hmmm... this is a little over my head. how do I fix this problem?
[18:31:02] 	i'm using directadmin
[18:31:08] 	i think i can make ns1.legalintellects.com and ns2
[18:31:16] 	but I only have 1 IP
[18:31:26] 	eeek
[18:31:28] 	is that bad?
[18:31:30] 	do you run probook.ca, or does someone do that for you?
[18:31:36] 	I run it
[18:31:39] 	but it was setup for me
[18:31:41] 	actually, the problem is probook.ca is missing glue records for its nameservers
[18:31:46] 	I have root
[18:31:50] 	i could fix anything...
[18:31:54] 	I just wouldn't know how
[18:32:03] 	the resolver can't even talk to ns[12].probook.ca because it doesn't know their addresses
[18:32:16] 	ok...
[18:32:31] 	how do I tell it? and, can I keep legalintellects.com on those NS's too?
[18:32:36] 	you need to contact the registrar to get it fixed (mention "missing glue" and they'll know what you mean)
[18:32:45] 	well, s/registrar/operator of probook.ca/
[18:32:45] 	godaddy I guess
[18:32:56] 	well.. I operate the server
[18:33:07] 	i dont have a sysadmin or any support from the host
[18:33:09] 	do you also run the domain probook.ca?
[18:33:12] 	yea
[18:33:19] 	then contact the registrar of that domain
[18:33:20] 	its all in my directadmin
[18:33:24] 	(not the one you're having problems with)
[18:33:39] 	so i contact godaddy and tell them Probook.ca needs glue?
[18:33:58] 	you want glue records added for your nameservers, ns1.probook.ca and ns2.probook.ca
[18:34:08] 	and that will fix legalintellects too?
[18:34:18] 	yksinaisyyteni- I get glue when I query the .ca nameservers: http://rafb.net/p/86e51f68.html
[18:34:34] 	anomie: i didn't.  that would explain why it only works sometimes
[18:34:55] 	so... i need MORE glue? :)
[18:35:57] 	ah, but the namserver is broken too
[18:36:00] 	hmmm
[18:36:03] 	broken?
[18:36:49] 	how do I fix a broken nameserver?
[18:38:01] 	JonnyK- Set up your nameserver at ns1.probook.ca to answer for ns1.probook.ca. And fix ns2.probook.ca while you're at it.
[18:38:01] 	yksinaisyyteni: by the way, I couldn't figure out that compile error in that native parsery thing, so I reverted to the latest revision that compiled.
[18:38:48] 	hmm. i have no experience with nameservers. anything more specific or should I find a tutorial?
[18:39:11] 	directadmin just lets me build ns1 and ns2 .probook.ca with a button
[18:39:17] 	and then i can point the domains to it
[18:39:20] 	it doesnt seem to get more involved
[18:40:13] 	this is terrible timing. I'm handing out my law resumes, and the site's listed on it
[18:41:01] 	JonnyK- You got it to answer correctly for legalintellects.com, can you just add another line or whatever to make it answer for ns1.probook.ca too?
[18:42:25] 	I don't even know what that means :( whatever I did, directadmin did automatically
[18:44:21] 	14(INVALID) 140 list is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17061  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[18:44:36] 	04(REOPENED) Nowiki tags and tilde signatures in templates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93  +comment (10powerpdn)
[18:45:00] 	where do I add a line?
[18:45:06] 	is there a conf file or something?
[18:48:16] 	03(NEW) Extend Special:Random functionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17068 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (mohamed.m.k)
[18:48:22] 	03simetrical * r45880 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php: 
[18:48:22] 	Fix typo in r43155
[18:48:22] 	Pointed out by zocky on IRC.
[18:48:30] 	hmmmmm
[18:48:30] 	zocky, thanks.
[18:48:32] 	i just did something
[18:48:33] 	np
[18:48:39] 	i'm a little scared
[18:48:42] 	i hope i didnt blow everything up
[18:48:46] 	i dont even know what i did 
[18:49:21] 	how do I check to see if I fixed/killed it?
[18:52:38] 	yikes
[18:53:02] 	i guess there's no way to know until it propagates or something?
[18:53:08] 	i think i created ns1.probok.ca
[18:53:10] 	probook.ca
[18:54:31] 	JonnyK- ns1.probook.ca is still claiming NXDOMAIN for ns1.probook.ca. You have it answering for probook.ca, i didn't check that earlier so I don't know if that's a change or not.
[18:55:03] 	NXDOMAIN is wrong?
[18:55:34] 	probook.ca is using ns[12].probook.ca and it works fine
[18:55:40] 	legalintellects is the problem
[18:57:27] 	#dns is idle. thought I was going to get lucky :/
[19:03:13] 	$5 to whoever helps me solve this :)
[19:04:18] 	what's the config option to enable User:Username/monobook.css stuff
[19:05:04] 	i think $wgUserStyle 
[19:06:02] 	I think $wgAllowUserCss and $wgAllowUserJs
[19:06:28] 	03(mod) Extend Special:Random functionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17068  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:07:10] 	yep, with an 'Allow' :P
[19:07:56] 	thanks
[19:11:05] 	I think #dns is the only dns help channel on irc
[19:11:07] 	of course its idle
[19:15:30] 	Is there a connection on any sort between "Autoconfirmed users" and "emailconfirmed" ?
[19:17:40] 	All my users joins the "emailconfirmed" group after confirming the email, but the group shows up empty in index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=emailconfirmed
[19:19:47] 	Hi, I want to overwrite an Image with a new one on wikipedia, but I'm not sure if the description will be overwritten once I press upload. will my text in Summary only be added as a comment?
[19:20:25] 	bit|icecream: Yes, that is the comment in the upload log - it doesn't replace the file description page
[19:20:34] 	I ask since I removed Autoconfirmed users list with "$wgAutoPromote = array(); unset( $wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed'] );"
[19:20:39] 	thanks
[19:21:58] 	Wikipedia won't let me :|
[19:22:59] 	bit|icecream: What do you mean "won't let me"?
[19:23:05] 	how do I replace the current version? I just figured I need to upload a file with the same name and ignore all warnings
[19:23:13] 	yeah, that'll do it
[19:23:25] 	03aaron * r45881 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: Fix typo in r45855
[19:23:31] 	try adding action=purge to the end of the url, it's probably a caching issue
[19:23:39] 	it says I need to upload the file with a different name, or upload it to commons, which seems like it wouldn't change what's on wikipedia
[19:23:47] 	ah
[19:23:57] 	hold on... lemme check something
[19:24:25] 	bit|icecream: go into your Preferences on wikipedia and tell me what groups you are in
[19:26:24] 	Autoconfirmed users, Users.
[19:26:46] 	hmm... then there shouldn't be an issue
[19:27:11] 	could you link to the image in question?
[19:27:28] 	maybe I should try Commons
[19:27:31] 	chances are the image is actually on Commons
[19:27:32] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Emergency_aid_to_Gaza_in_2009.PNG
[19:27:51] 	yes
[19:28:02] 	if you notice the box on the image page
[19:28:11] 	aye
[19:28:18] 	would it change it on WP than?
[19:28:23] 	it says the image is from Commons, which means you need to upload it there if you want to overwrite it
[19:28:36] 	changing it on Commons will change it on every Wikimedia project, including Wikipedia
[19:31:01] 	Is there a way to change membership of "Users" in User rights management, when "Groups you can change" don't show the group "Users"?
[19:33:19] 	Opps, I found it. I change "$wgImplicitGroups"
[19:34:17] 	thanks skiz
[19:35:47] 	Ey
[19:36:25] 	I have an question about an PHP Error on my website. I have placed the backup on another server and now he says he cant localize an document
[19:36:45] 	Any idea why "emailconfirmed" shows up as plain text, when all the other group are links (in "User rights management" and "User list").
[19:36:52] 	Someone who want to check the link in an Private Message and maybe want to help me?
[19:41:57] 	Hello everyone! How are you?
[19:42:33] 	Haalo? Is there anyone alive?
[19:42:39] 	everyone is good
[19:42:40] 	mib_5fmrot:yes
[19:42:40] 	and alive
[19:42:52] 	Mooizo
[19:42:55] 	if i die, i hope they stop my irc idle
[19:42:55] 	good!
[19:43:08] 	I also hope that you
[19:43:16] 	imagine you leave a living monument irc bot in your will?
[19:43:36] 	That would be nice
[19:44:02] 	creepy
[19:44:10] 	like when people post RIP on dead people's facebook walls
[19:44:17] 	that should be outlawed
[19:44:53] 	!ask | mib_5fmrot 
[19:44:53] --mwbot--	mib_5fmrot: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[19:45:16] 	Indeed, candidate
[19:51:40] 	Here is a screendump describing my problem: http://www.ndwiki.org/emailconfirmed-screendump.png
[19:53:59] 	Why is "emailconfirmed" in plain text? Should I add it in "System messages"?
[19:54:27] 	is there any tool to show the number of daily edits for specific wiki?
[19:55:07] 	03aaron * r45882 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/updateRestrictions.php: Tweak r45600: kill the broken page_restrictions columns too
[20:06:38] 	Can someone check these errors on my site; www.wikibond.org
[20:07:12] 	I have an new server and i loaded up the backup and everything is the same, but there is that error. I dont know what to change. 
[20:09:10] 	what is WebStart.php?
[20:09:35] 	C:\php5\pear'
[20:09:37] 	what is pear?
[20:10:10] 	PHP Extension and Application Repository?
[20:10:17] 	ahh
[20:10:29] 	Dont know much about it.. But before the new server it wasnt like this :P
[20:11:38] 	maybe you need to CHMOD some thingsd
[20:11:46] 	did you follow an install tutorial?
[20:12:01] 	have you got remote desktop?
[20:12:09] 	No
[20:12:27] 	I have followed an install tutorial in the beginning 2 years ago..
[20:12:40] 	you probably just need to get the security on the folders right for the new server
[20:12:42] 	But must you reinstall it then?
[20:12:48] 	shouldnt need to
[20:12:55] 	uhu
[20:13:11] 	hmmz
[20:14:42] 	But the path of the server to webstart is: /domains/wikibond.org/public_html/nl/wikibond/includes/WebStart.php and he says he cant find it there: 'C:\wwwroot\www\wikibond.org/includes/WebStart.php' 
[20:14:52] 	Is that maybe not right?
[20:15:18] 	or is C:\wwwroot\www\ an standaard path?
[20:42:01] 	Creating "MediaWiki:group-emailconfirmed" and "MediaWiki:group-emailconfirmed-member" solved that problem. But I still don't understand why no users shows up in the group?
[20:44:26] 	what extension do I need to make  tags work?
[20:44:34] 	I have out of the box 1.13 and they aren't picked up
[20:45:18] 	nm
[20:45:24] 	the extension is called cite
[20:45:30] 	Yay google!
[20:58:33] 	03(NEW) Filter list=usercontribs by ucshow=!patrolled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17069 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (lars-wikimediabugzilla)
[21:07:17] 	03mrzman * r45883 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 5 dirs): (bug 17055) Use a CSS class ('mw-revdelundel-link') for RevisionDelete "(show/hide)" links rather than hardcoded , reduce some code duplication by creating Linker::revDeleteLink() to make the links.
[21:07:56] 	03(FIXED) "show/hide" links should not be unavoidably in monospace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17055  +comment (10mrzmanwiki)
[22:28:09] 	03(mod) IRC recent changes feed does not list patrol log entries - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16604  (10marcin.cieslak)
[22:37:57] 	03(NEW) Files with hash of an old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17070 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (Platonides)
[22:40:16] 	04(REOPENED) IRC recent changes feed does not list patrol log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16604  (10Platonides)
[22:57:06] 	03siebrand * r45884 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/Mantis.php: Updates for Mantis
[23:02:41] 	03(mod) Change lang and xml:lang in no. =?UTF-8?Q?wikipedia=20from=20=E2=80=98no=E2?= =?UTF-8?Q?=80=99=20to=20=E2=80=98nb=E2=80=99?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12317  (10nsaa.wikipedia)
[23:05:21] 	03siebrand * r45885 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (38 files): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2009-01-18 22:56 UTC)
[23:21:35] 	03siebrand * r45886 10/trunk/extensions/ (84 files in 77 dirs): 
[23:21:35] 	Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2009-01-18 22:56 UTC)
[23:21:35] 	* previous commit was of course for core messages...
[23:29:16] 	03(mod) Sidebar items missing from classic, cologne blue, simple skins - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2557  (10marcin.cieslak)
[23:41:57] 	03(mod) Change lang and xml:lang in no. =?UTF-8?Q?wikipedia=20from=20=E2=80=98no=E2?= =?UTF-8?Q?=80=99=20to=20=E2=80=98nb=E2=80=99?= - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12317  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[23:46:57] 	Repost:All my users joins the "emailconfirmed" group after confirming their email, but the emailconfirmed-group shows up empty in index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=emailconfirmed  Any idea? Where should I look?