[00:18:23] 03siebrand * r46172 10/trunk/extensions/WebStore/ (WebStore.i18n.php WebStoreClient.php): Move trailing newline for 'webstore_invalid_response' and 'webstore_invalid_response' to code. [00:19:02] 03danny_b * r46173 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRecentchanges.php: * fixing regression from r42769 (component ordering & empty line) [00:19:41] *aiml finally finished http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SubstControl [00:20:33] 03(FIXED) MediaWiki:Rcnote no longer displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16171 +comment (10danny.b) [00:22:56] 03siebrand * r46174 10/trunk/extensions/SpamRegex/ (SpamRegex.i18n.php SpamRegexCore.php): Remove a hard coded space in 'spamregex-move' [00:26:08] Does anyone know of an extension that logs a (logged in) user's viewing history? [00:31:41] nevermind, i found a couple after looking harder :) [00:33:26] 03aaron * r46175 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: [00:33:26] * redirect=no and mw-redirect classes to redirect pages (bug 17106) [00:33:26] * Don't show rollback links on new pages [00:34:28] 03(FIXED) mw-redirect links in special:contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17106 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [00:42:41] hey al [00:42:46] *all [00:43:55] so, I have a quick question... Renameuser or UserMergeandDelete? [00:44:50] what about them? [00:44:50] RenameUser is likely to be more reliable and better-tested. [00:44:58] (if you mean "which should I use?") [00:45:05] ok thanks [00:45:08] it depends what you want to do [00:45:26] i'm writing an extension,a [00:45:31] you can't delete and merge users with RenameUser I don't think [00:45:55] no [00:46:15] and the extension should rename a user. but the new name might already exist [00:46:47] yet its ok if the new user gets deleted, as long as the user gets renamed [00:48:06] so essentially i need the functionally of usermergeanddelete, but renameuser does seem to be more up-to-date (isnt even compatable with 1.1.13) [00:48:32] 03malafaya * r46176 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Special:ImportLangNames full i18n support [00:56:00] gbruin, RenameUser is used by Wikipedia, so as I said, it's probably going to be a lot more reliable, well-tested, and up-to-date. [00:56:08] Plus you can likely get support for it here more easily. [00:56:22] If you want to rename to an existing name, you can just rename the existing user to something else first. [00:58:01] Alright [01:00:21] 03(WONTFIX) Displaying last editor' s edits on the edit page to reduce vandalism - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3639 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [01:04:53] Hmm. This is causing an error for me when using custom CSS. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/29939 [01:06:52] that shouldn't afflict anything unless you load the css via @load using /wiki/Foo?action=raw&ctype=text/css [01:07:31] (although there are reports of ?action=raw returning errors even when using the primary script access point, in oddly configured rewrite installations) [01:08:11] Simetrical: brion did that mostly because of a .bat virus in an &oldid I showed him was a danger in almost all versions of mozilla [01:08:50] My server has neither $_SERVER['SCRIPT_URL'] nor $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] set. [01:08:51] you could /wiki/Virus.bat?oldid=12345&action=raw and mozilla would ask you to save the arbitrary contents of an oldid as 'virus.bat' (as oldid ignores title, but browser sees it as the string between / and ?) [01:09:03] So it's raising the error falsely. [01:09:11] odd [01:09:23] but people have reported that before [01:09:27] http://thor.twcenter.net/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:TWC.css&usemsgcache=yes&ctype=text%2Fcss&smaxage=18000&action=raw&maxage=18000 [01:09:32] That's a var_dump of $_SERVER. [01:09:47] 'SCRIPT_NAME' seems to be what's set. [01:10:51] (also, it was kind of silly to forbid it just to MSIE, I think that was the last USER_AGENT content switcher in core) [01:11:12] ((double although: it breaks interwiki magic transclusions if the interwiki link is registered for articlepath)) [01:12:45] What's the difference between SCRIPT_NAME and PHP_SELF, and why isn't the latter set for me? [01:12:48] *Simetrical frowns at PHP [01:15:09] *Splarka looks cluelessly blond at Simetrical ^_% [01:15:47] This seems to be a FastCGI bug. [01:16:47] Or maybe a lighttpd bug. [01:17:27] i doubt lighttpd is meant to set PHP_SELF [01:17:52] There we go. [01:17:56] It's a PHP conf bug. [01:18:01] *Simetrical adds a helpful error message [01:20:04] 03(mod) Add marker that forces a template to be always substituted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2003 +comment (10carlin) [01:22:35] *werdnum waves [01:23:00] 03aaron * r46177 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (bug 3301) Optionally sort user list according to account creation time [01:24:16] 03(FIXED) Sort user list according to account creation time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3301 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [01:28:27] *Simetrical growls at RELEASE-NOTES conflict [01:30:01] *werdnum growls back at Simetrical [01:31:51] 03simetrical * r46178 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/RawPage.php): (log message trimmed) [01:31:51] More helpful error message if PHP_SELF isn't set [01:31:51] Raw page access was failing in some server configurations with CGI (or [01:31:51] in my case, FastCGI). This gives a nicer and more correct error [01:31:51] message. Possibly better solutions: [01:31:52] 1) Figure out how to do this without PHP_SELF. [01:31:56] 2) Give a warning or error on installation, or even on every page view, [01:32:45] Oh I've hit that bug before. [01:32:55] I had a live hack to fix it, but I don't remember what it is. [01:33:06] I *think* it was using REQUEST_URI instead of PHP_SELF [01:33:55] You just need to enable cgi.fix_pathinfo in php.ini. [01:34:47] I had a live hack in MediaWiki itself. [01:36:07] I added an error message instead. [01:36:12] Probably there's a better solution. [01:36:21] Hi everyone, if i pass something through a parser function eg. $wgParser->recursiveTagParse('{{Special:RecentChanges}}'); [01:36:21] I am getting a string returned "UNIQ263b564f57020e40-item-1--QINU" [01:36:39] am i suppose to put that through $wgOut? [01:37:08] 03aaron * r46179 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: Improve article ID process cache hit rate [01:43:14] 03aaron * r46180 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: Check $row->page_is_redirect directly [01:44:58] 03(WONTFIX) main focus of Special:Contributions is misleading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3628 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [02:02:22] 03aaron * r46181 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: Revert r46180 and use newFromRow to get page_is_redirect loaded correctly [02:17:06] <_Vi> How to export a wiki? (No "database download" available and Special:Export is "Permission denied") Is there some script that traverse all articles in "view source" mode and writes XML? [02:17:37] you could try doing a mysql dump perhaps [02:17:48] <_Vi> Only usual user HTTP access. [02:25:01] is there api access? [02:28:08] !backup [02:28:08] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [02:39:49] I am currently trying to display the page contents of "recent changes" page in the sidebar [02:40:04] does anyone have any ideas? [02:43:05] would I be looking at programming a hook or extension? [02:45:27] hello! what is the style code to change all borders color for a cell? [02:45:56] or should i change it one by one? on wikipedia is an example but it isn't very usefull [02:46:58] you'd want to be looking in your skins css and changing the appropiate table/td/tr values [02:47:41] eg. adding something like border:1px solid blue; [02:48:39] if it is just one cell... | style="border:1px solid blue" | cell content or cell content [02:49:16] if it is all cells on a table... or {| class="blueborders" and then in cite-wide css: table.blueborders td {border:1px solid blue} [02:53:04] <_Vi> werdnum, "Backing_up_a_wiki" implies I have access to server, which is not the case. I mean some like "wget -r", but for mediawiki and that writes Special:Export-style XML file. [02:53:37] Well you could put together a custom solution if you were really motivated [02:54:08] Splarka, it is just one cell [02:54:09] <_Vi> How to get list of all articles with minimal load for server? [02:54:19] _Vi: use the API 'allpages'. [02:54:30] but instead of "solid blue" can i use an html code? example: #3ccc5f [02:54:47] <_Vi> Is "API" accessible from ordinary users? [02:56:23] luminoso: yes u can [02:56:46] thanks :-D [02:59:18] <_Vi> werdnum, "MediaWiki API is not enabled for this site. Add the following line to your LocalSettings.php" [02:59:37] <_Vi> Is traversing "Special:Allpages" a good method? [03:00:36] _Vi: If you like. [03:00:42] it's pretty much the same, except it's harder to parse. [03:01:06] You should add that line to your LocalSettings.php [03:01:54] <_Vi> I can't add anything to LocalSettings.php because of this is not my wiki. (BTW their admins lost the database once because of lack of backup) [03:02:47] <_Vi> Is wikipediafs a good method of fetching articles' sources? [03:31:42] just ask the wiki owners to enable the api [03:34:38] Is API on by default in recent versions? [03:36:06] I believe it is [03:36:18] though I don't know how recent recent it [03:37:28] well, 'recent' is vague [03:38:47] Simetrical: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=16442 [03:39:19] that was between 1.7 and 1.8 branching [03:39:58] so of course it was off by default that far back ^_^ [03:44:02] Simetrical: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=16922 [03:44:32] and that was after 1.8 branch, so probably 1.9++ [03:46:51] Is there a way to hotwire the DifferenceEngine.php to use with any set of strings? [03:48:40] sure [03:49:02] Is it difficult? [03:49:36] most of DifferenceEngine.php was stolen from another wiki engine [03:49:45] so I should think stealing it for a third wouldn't be too hard [03:50:30] I don't suppose any of it is documented? [03:50:40] sure, in the file [03:51:09] I guess I'll spend some time trying to figure it out. [03:51:23] tangental: would a method to diff two arbitrary strings in the UI or API be a bit of a burden to large farms? You can diff any two non-deleted revisions, on the same article or even different articles, or diff against user input and a top revision of an article, but you can't diff user input against an oldid or user input against more user input without saving [03:52:06] depends whether anyone uses it [03:52:17] wikidiff2 is pretty fast though [03:52:46] a few hundred KB per second per core [03:53:18] possibly BEANSy, but could a mini-DOS happen against repeatedly and vehemently diffing against large top revisions without ever saving? [03:53:29] (oop, too many against) [03:54:27] not really, no [03:55:04] there are plenty of slower algorithms to attack [03:55:50] mmm, how about on a wiki that can't utilize the non-php differ (wikidiff2?) [03:56:18] yes, it's pretty easy to DoS the PHP diff engine, accidentally or on purpose [03:56:26] that's why I wrote the C++ version [03:57:34] heh [03:58:08] the PHP one is the same time order, just 150 times slower and using 200 times more memory [03:58:16] it's all in the constant factors :) [03:59:04] hello Tim-away [03:59:13] hi [03:59:41] How's Sydney? [04:00:21] ever pondered making the differ a bit of a mini-parser, for things like... adding +{{\nfoo\n}} between {{\nbar\n}} {{\nbaz\n}}, so it would start with '{{' instead of the previous '}}' ? [04:00:26] fine [04:00:58] Splarka: no [04:01:21] same for say, [[abc]] [[def]] [[ghi]] -> [[abc]] [[def]] [[ghi]] [04:01:23] poo [04:01:58] there are plenty of more interesting and useful tasks for me to do [04:02:12] you _always_ use that excuse ^_^ [04:03:19] then I'm sure you know what's coming next? [04:05:38] *Splarka sneeks off to avoid [04:06:10] so, Splarka, if you find the concept of smarter diffs particularly interesting, you can always do it yourself and send me a patch [04:06:49] bbl [04:07:32] s/do it yourself/learn PHP and do it yourself/ [04:08:38] *Splarka peeks up from the gopher hole, sees the suggestion go whizzing past [04:09:03] werdnum: enjoying the rain here? [04:09:35] it ain't raining in SF [04:10:53] ^this week [04:49:24] Im writing a skin, how would I check if a user is logged in or not? [04:52:36] Boxers: look at how monobook does it [04:53:16] where does monobook do it? [04:54:02] i suppose i can check if certain personal options are 'active' or not [04:54:25] but doesn't seem like a good idea for portability to other versions [04:54:36] oh [04:54:38] i see [04:54:46] $wgUser->isAnon(); [04:54:58] perfect thank you [04:55:04] 03werdna * r46182 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewEdit.php: E_NOTICE [05:01:56] hello...asking question for buddy, not sure what to tell em...any ideas.? [05:02:31] http://pastebin.com/m3c77d7df [05:02:40] thanks in advance ;) [05:03:32] !wg StylePath [05:03:32] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgStylePath [05:03:40] make sure that's set correctly [05:04:15] thanks mrz-man [05:04:21] or $wgScriptPath [05:05:27] !wg scriptpath [05:05:27] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgscriptpath [05:05:55] nothin there at that link [05:06:09] Hello. [05:06:14] case sensitive [05:06:21] !wg ScriptPath [05:06:21] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgScriptPath [05:07:00] Can anyone help me out, please? :) [05:07:16] thanks MrZ-man again [05:07:54] !ask Zexxion [05:07:54] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [05:08:11] Right. [05:08:18] Anyways. [05:08:32] I recently installed the software on my site. [05:08:51] And trying to put the 'virtual directory' as /wiki for the articles [05:09:13] Well, after putting in the code in LocalSettings.php and putting it into a subdomain. [05:09:18] It's acting strange. [05:09:42] The appearance is gone. [05:09:53] It's just text and links. [05:10:01] (Lots of messages, sorry.) [05:11:09] did you read the guide before attempting it? [05:11:26] I believe. [05:12:06] 03werdna * r46183 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: Strict standards. [05:12:27] Zexxion: Can I see your rewrite conf? [05:12:33] pastebin, plz [05:12:34] !pastebin [05:12:34] --mwbot-- Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. Instead please use a pastebin such as and post a link to your paste in the channel. [05:13:12] You mean in .htaccess? [05:14:04] yeah [05:14:07] the rewrite rules you wrote. [05:15:22] Hm... I think it's unrestricted. [05:15:27] Rewrite's on. [05:16:48] Huh... [05:16:51] Nevermind. [05:16:59] It looks a lot different than it did before. o.o [05:20:57] http://mediawiki.pastey.net/106966 [05:25:36] 03werdna * r46184 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php: Fix weird method of checking if any MulRel operations worked. [05:28:48] o.o [05:34:28] 03werdna * r46185 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php: Typo [05:35:06] What the? [05:35:13] what? [05:35:19] What's all that? [05:35:21] That bot logs changes to the code. [05:35:27] Ah. [05:35:32] I happen to be doing some work on the code, and committing my changes. [05:35:38] I see. [05:35:38] So it's letting people know. [05:35:52] Did you look at my PB thing? [05:36:07] I had a look, but I didn't see anything obvious. [05:37:05] I did add the symlinks code into the .htaccess. [05:41:59] 03werdna * r46186 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php: Fix up error message. [05:54:50] 03werdna * r46187 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php: Explicit detection for division by zero. [05:56:17] 03aaron * r46188 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): Convert totalcheckededits/totalreviewededits into an alternate condition for totalContentEdits for greater flexibility when these get used. [05:57:59] c-c-c-combo-breaker. [05:59:26] *p858snake divides werdnum by zero [06:01:10] is there a global function to turn a page title (ie "Main Page") into its URL ("/index.php?title=Main_Page")? [06:02:26] OH NOES [06:02:34] Boxers: no, but there is a Title member function [06:02:46] if you have a title object, use $title->getLocalURL(); [06:02:59] If you don't have a title object, get one with Title::newFromText( 'My page' ); [06:03:08] perfecct thanks [06:52:07] 03aaron * r46189 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Removed 'totalReviewedEdits' param, not needed due to 'totalCheckedEdits' param [06:54:10] 03(mod) Update MessagesVi.php - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17151 +comment (10mxn) [07:42:45] 03(mod) Excluding specific categories from Special:UnusedCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17145 +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif) [07:46:00] 03(mod) Technical updates to bs.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13451 (10demicx) [08:57:28] 14(WFM) PHP Notice: iconv(): Detected an illegal character in input string in /.../languages/Language. php on line 1345 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16885 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [08:59:42] 03(FIXED) {{grammar}} broken in noarticletext(anon) when ui lang != content lang - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11119 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:05:30] 03(FIXED) bidi characters in titles should be ignored - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15284 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:08:50] 03(FIXED) Translate adds empty messages for untranslated optional messages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15865 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:12:43] 03nikerabbit * r46190 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/db/Database.php): * (bug 17150) escapeLike now escapes literal \ properly [09:13:16] 03(FIXED) escapeLike should double escape \ - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17150 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:14:47] is there a way to disallow users and anonymous users from editing articles, but still allowing them to edit discussion pages? [09:14:55] sure [09:15:09] $wgNamespaceProtection[NS_MAIN] = 'someright'; [09:15:18] $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['someright'] = true; [09:15:43] so NS_MAIN is where articles go [09:15:57] are there other NS's that aren't discussion pages? [09:17:01] User:, Project:, Template:, Category: ... [09:17:07] !namespace [09:17:07] --mwbot-- For help with understanding and manipulating namespaces, please consult . See also !extranamespace [09:18:15] I think I want to deny all edits by default and then allow just the discussion pages. Thanks for the help! [09:19:28] 03(mod) No indication in which language input should be - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670 summary; +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:27:14] 03(mod) "Member of group(s)" in Special:Preferences - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14454 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:29:21] 03(mod) Allow localization of the magic words ISBN, RFC, PMID - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13335 (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:31:16] 03rotem * r46191 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesEn.php MessagesHe.php): Localization update for he + fix message order. [11:03:38] moin [11:22:42] 03siebrand * r46192 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (OmegaWiki/SpecialAddCollection.php SpecialLanguages.i18n.php): Move break from message 'ow_collection_added' to code [11:29:27] 03siebrand * r46193 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Split date and time in 'usercreated' [11:43:20] 03(mod) Numeric table sorting broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17105 (10michaelj.walsh) [11:45:56] 03(mod) Numeric table sorting broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17105 normal->high; +comment (10michaelj.walsh) [11:57:03] 03siebrand * r46194 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Remove 'amazonplus-status-sep' and use 'comma-separator' from core [12:24:06] 03siebrand * r46195 10/trunk/extensions/CommentSpammer/ (CommentSpammer.i18n.php CommentSpammer.php): Replace hard coded trailing space in 'commentspammer-log-msg' by 'word-separator' [12:44:03] 03simetrical * r46196 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [12:44:03] __IGNOREUNUSED__ excludes cats from UnusedCategories [12:44:03] An extra left join and filter condition added to the query. Should [12:44:03] cause no significant performance issues. Patch by Ahmad Sherif (bug [12:44:03] 17145). [12:44:09] 03(FIXED) Excluding specific categories from Special:UnusedCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17145 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [12:44:53] *Simetrical should have mentioned use-cases in the commit message, probably [12:45:41] Remember, your commit message isn't too long until it causes people's machines to go into swap when they read the commit mailing. [12:49:51] Hello room [12:50:18] !pdf [12:50:18] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "pdf". You might try: !wiki2pdf [12:50:49] Is there any Extention for creating PDF files ? [12:51:13] Mr-Fine: yes, Collection [12:51:22] !collection [12:51:22] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "collection". [12:51:26] Though it's kinda complex [12:51:31] !e Collection [12:51:31] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection [12:51:49] ops [12:53:22] VasilieVV: You have any suggestion for my Wiki, it is related to News website [12:54:22] Install Collection? [12:54:25] i thnk Extension:PDF_Writer is specific [12:56:30] 03purodha * r46197 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Message text ambiguity removed (hopefully) [12:56:58] VasilieVV: How is it possible to create DATE Categories automatically for at least one month? [12:57:32] I wanna place articles creating on my Wiki to particular date [13:00:53] !bot [13:00:53] --mwbot-- A bot is an automatic processes which interacts with MediaWiki as though they were human editors designed to make easier automated actions which are arbitrary to make manually. For an overview how to create a bot and a list of known frameworks can be found on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Creating_a_bot [13:01:09] Wazur|rhn: Why? [13:01:30] oh , I means HOW [13:01:32] meant^ [13:02:06] follow that link and search if there is maybe something written down how it works there [13:02:08] I've created an account and then set it to BOT [13:02:13] no, not that [13:02:18] you need a program to RUN as a bot [13:02:22] to do the work [13:02:27] oh I see [13:02:41] thats only a bot flag, changes some attributes for the account, such as api requests, not listed in RC logs [13:03:10] Reedy: from where can I get program? [13:03:24] theres no "specific" program [13:03:38] I meant if you kindly guide me through out the process in setup a bot ? [13:06:39] http://wikisum.com/w/User:Adam/Creating_MediaWiki_bots_in_PHP [13:06:42] I am there, [13:07:52] do you know any programming languages? [13:16:13] Mr-Fine, the point is that you can't do this automatically unless you write a computer program to do it for you. If you don't know how to program and don't want to learn, then don't pursue a bot solution. [13:16:26] Go look for an extension instead, someone might have made one. [13:19:04] AWB had a assessment category creator plugin for WP Projects... i think it became deprecated and removed though [13:22:50] update the wikiproject banner to use WPBannerMeta and it will give you links to create categories that don't exist >.> [13:32:19] hi2all [13:33:30] ����� ��� ������, � ���� �� ����������� ��������� ���� ���� �� IIS + MSSQL? [13:34:24] �� � ���� PHP ������� [13:37:02] *Mr-Fine is Back [13:41:09] ���, � ���-������ ��-������ ��� �������? =) [13:41:40] gR4mm, i've no idea what you said, but you can use mediawiki on IIS with MySQL [13:41:46] !installation [13:41:46] --mwbot-- Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [13:42:25] *Mr-Fine can with Installation MediaWiki, if anybody need! [13:42:31] help^ [13:45:00] Reedy, and is it possible to use mediawiki on IIS+MSSQL+PHP or IIS+MySQL(or PostgreSQL)+PHP only? [13:46:10] gR4mm, not mssql support yet - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9767 [13:46:32] MYSQL,PHP [13:46:36] seems to be under semi-development [13:46:45] !mssql [13:46:45] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "mssql". [13:46:58] also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15493 [13:47:49] why don't we use PDO? [13:48:16] HELP!!!!@!@!@!@!@! where is the administrator account saved? [13:48:35] the database? [13:48:39] in the databse [13:49:05] Stanlin: let me guess, you removed admin rights from the only admin account [13:49:15] lolol [13:49:26] Prodego: actually i forgot the admin account [13:49:40] ah, usually people remove it [13:49:41] name or password? [13:49:47] name and password [13:50:03] [[Special:ListUser/sysop]] for name [13:50:10] !admin [13:50:10] --mwbot-- To recreate the admin user, run "php maintenance/createAndPromote.php" on the command line. [13:50:23] Reedy: that is a stupid message [13:50:33] I mean !admin.... that is sort of taken [13:50:34] anybody here, who can help me with creating main page layout as I can see on http://zh.wikinews.org/ [13:50:41] Prodego, true [13:50:57] i didnt create it though [13:51:15] Stanlin: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_reset_a_password.3F for password [13:51:39] !welcome [13:51:39] --mwbot-- Welcome to #mediawiki, the channel for MediaWiki development and support! Don't ask if anyone's around, just ask your questions. Do, however, consult the FAQ, located at , first. [13:51:57] !welcome | freephile [13:51:57] --mwbot-- freephile: Welcome to #mediawiki, the channel for MediaWiki development and support! Don't ask if anyone's around, just ask your questions. Do, however, consult the FAQ, located at , first. [13:52:30] Prodego: i love you, works, do whatever you want with me [13:52:49] thx2all [13:53:10] Mr-Fine: The people can read the topic for that [13:53:35] !welcome | Wuzur|rhn [13:53:35] --mwbot-- Wuzur|rhn: Welcome to #mediawiki, the channel for MediaWiki development and support! Don't ask if anyone's around, just ask your questions. Do, however, consult the FAQ, located at , first. [13:53:39] gR4mm: I submitted the MSSQL patches attached to bug 15493 (Reedy posted a link above). If you do give that a shot and strike some trouble, please post a comment to that bug. [13:53:54] how to promote users? [13:54:13] !promote [13:54:13] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "promote". You might try: !createandpromote !emailconfirmed [13:54:39] Stanlin: What do you mean by promote users? [13:54:47] the faq is the good place to start [13:55:10] !welcome | Olipro [13:55:10] --mwbot-- Olipro: Welcome to #mediawiki, the channel for MediaWiki development and support! Don't ask if anyone's around, just ask your questions. Do, however, consult the FAQ, located at , first. [13:55:19] Mr-Fine: stop doing that [13:55:36] *Mr-Fine STOPED.................. zzzzzzD [13:57:09] polymorpheus, ok [13:58:02] Mr-Fine: i need to promote to admins a couple of already created users [13:58:25] [[Special:UserRights]] [13:59:33] Wuzur|rhn: i logged in as admin (created using php maintenance/createAndPromote.php) but, i have this error now: You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason. [14:00:06] Stanlin: What is stated below? [14:00:17] Your account does not have permission to assign user rights. [14:00:39] is there something about user groups? [14:01:22] use need the userrights flag, which is restricted to 'bureaucrat' by default [14:01:26] *you [14:01:59] OverlordQ: hwo to do that? [14:02:02] Try running: php maintenance/createAndPromote.php --bureaucrat [14:03:14] aiml: same error [14:04:06] you can't run createAndPromote to create a crat account with the same name without deleting it first [14:04:21] OverlordQ: how to do that [14:04:51] is possible to change text orientation on mediawiki tables? [14:04:58] probably easier to create a new account using it, just temporarily to assign the permissions [14:05:25] luminoso: what text-orientation? [14:05:26] 04(REOPENED) MediaWiki:Rcnote no longer displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16171 +comment (10danny.b) [14:05:43] Wuzur|rhn, vertical text oriented to right [14:05:58] rotate text 90� [14:07:12] HELP!! [14:07:57] Stanlin: Read wat aiml wrote above [14:08:48] but how to assign permissions? [14:09:07] Special:Userrights ? [14:09:12] Login with the account created by the command and go to Special:UserRights [14:10:19] I;ve said, Special:Userrights doesnt work, i get this error: You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason: [14:10:32] Wuzur|rhn: i logged in as admin (created using php maintenance/createAndPromote.php) but, i have this error now: You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason. [14:10:37] i logged in as admin (created using php maintenance/createAndPromote.php) but, i have this error now: You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason. [14:10:43] create a seperate 'crat account [14:10:52] Try running: php maintenance/createAndPromote.php --bureaucrat [14:10:54] OverlordQ: yes, but how to do that? [14:11:00] Reedy: i did that, doesnt work [14:11:03] same error [14:11:18] are you using the same username? [14:11:44] 03(NEW) {{GRAMMAR:}} does not work in CentralNotice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17152 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (cbrown1023) [14:12:00] like I mentioned before if you ran: php crateAndPromote.php bob beans you can't go back and run php createAndPromote.php --bureaucrat bob beans [14:12:37] OverlordQ: its a new account, i just run that command once, php createAndPromote.php --bureaucrat bob beans [14:12:48] OverlordQ: obviously i tried 50 times already , with new accounts [14:13:36] well I just tried it and it WFM, so I dont know then. [14:14:18] You have logged in with the NEW crat account you created via that command? [14:15:39] Go to [[Special:ListUsers/bureaucrat]] and see if there are any accounts listed [14:22:26] Hello everyone [14:23:15] how can i delete title Main page? [14:24:37] Captain99: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_hide_the_main_page_title.3F [14:26:57] Wuzur|rhn: I am using MW 1.13v, I add body.page-Main_Page h1.firstHeading { display:none; } in Common.css but not working.. [14:27:24] MediaWiki:Common.css [14:27:31] yeah [14:27:36] what is the title of your mainpage? [14:27:57] Main Page [14:28:12] cleared your cache? [14:28:27] yap [14:29:49] I am using custom modern skin [14:30:20] http://wikifamily.yourwiki.net/ [14:31:21] try .page-Main_Page h1#firstHeading { display:none; } [14:32:04] or even better:.page-Main_Page #mw_header { display:none; } [14:32:12] let me try both [14:34:05] Wuzur|rhn: worked, thanks [14:34:16] but .... [14:34:26] ops. no. sorry [14:34:58] oh, that was the wrong one :D [14:35:01] header is removed not Main page title. [14:35:05] maybe another heading # [14:35:12] let me try with h2 [14:36:46] .page-Main_Page h2 { display:none; } but then you can't use other h2 on that page. Maybe you want to change that script? [14:37:12] to content.innerHTML = "

" + wgPageName.replace(/_/g, ' ') + "

" + content.innerHTML; [14:37:25] and then .page-Main_Page h2#heading { display:none; } [14:38:00] still not working with .page-Main_Page h2#firstHeading { display:none; } [14:39:00] i dont want to use another h2 on my Main page :) [14:39:22] now let me try with .page-Main_Page h2 { display:none; } [14:40:00] 03river * r46198 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/base-specs/pcre.spec: build with UTF-8 support [14:40:27] 03river * r46199 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/ (TSlibevent.spec TSmemcached.spec): TSlibevent, TSmemcached: new specs [14:40:42] thanks [14:40:45] it working :) [14:40:50] 03river * r46200 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/ (TSpca.spec ext-sources/pca): TSpca: update to 20081218-01 [14:44:07] hi [14:44:34]

Welcome to Wikifamily

, Please check the size of fonts, I thnk its same as for H@ [14:44:36] H2^ [14:44:45] but without line.. [14:44:48] _________________ ^ [14:45:05] we (persian wikipedia) have a problem with TimeLine tag [14:45:11] :) [14:45:38] !timeline [14:45:38] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "timeline". [14:45:38] Berlin: 15:45 | Los Angeles: 06:45 [14:45:49] i think this tag is not UTF-8 [14:45:51] :-? [14:45:59] [[Extension:TimelineTable]] [14:46:12] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimelineTable [14:46:16] 03rotem * r46201 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update. [14:47:08] so? [14:49:31] you may want to go to bugzilla [14:54:38] 03(NEW) prefix search problems w.r.t. special characters - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17153 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Search; (m.l) [15:02:39] anybody here to help me ? :( [15:03:08] well.... [15:03:28] I report a problem [15:03:32] !welcome | komeil [15:03:32] --mwbot-- komeil: Welcome to #mediawiki, the channel for MediaWiki development and support! Don't ask if anyone's around, just ask your questions. Do, however, consult the FAQ, located at , first. [15:03:34] u can use [[en:graphical timeline]] and [[en:Template:Horizontal timeline]] [15:04:36] How can i use local time on my wiki site? [15:04:59] {{LOCALTIME}} ? [15:05:38] {{CURRENTTIME}} ? [15:06:18] {{LOCALTIME}} showing 2 hours ahead... [15:07:00] How can I get the php_wikidiff.so extension? [15:07:19] Sumurai8: this tag cant suport UTF-8 charechter [15:07:19] its around 8:00 pm here but its showing 10:00 pm. why ? [15:09:12] Sumurai8: tnx [15:09:14] ciao [15:09:25] :) [15:23:59] 03simetrical * r46202 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUnusedcategories.php: [15:23:59] Fix last commit, was broken [15:24:00] Per code review by P. Copp: [15:24:00] [15:24:00] The conditions on the join would only work if the category had no other [15:24:00] page_props. Otherwise it would return incorrect results. [15:36:53] *StealthCP nods [15:37:13] I currently have my mediawiki in web root - with an alias to have the wiki finction at /wiki/ [15:37:30] I now want to move the wiki to locate in /w/ [15:37:38] what's the best way of doing this? [15:37:55] !move [15:37:55] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki [15:42:47] 03purodha * r46203 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialPreferences.php: message attribute changed, *CSS* may be intranslateable, thus needing a lang= attribute. [15:53:19] 03raymond * r46204 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add existing group 'staff' [15:56:52] what is easy short urls? domains.com/wiki or wiki.domain.com ? [15:57:05] the former is preferred [15:57:19] Charitwo: excuse me? [15:57:29] i mean, easy to configure, btw [15:57:49] by short urls, they mean the first one [15:57:56] ah ok, lets me try [15:59:26] I wanna use local time on my wiki site. [15:59:43] {{LOCALTIME}} is showing 2 hours ahead.. [16:02:19] Captains: Check your settings in Special:Preferences [16:03:55] I wanna know using {{LOCALTIME}} will show country timing? [16:04:15] if I'm assuming correctly it should, but check your preferences [16:04:57] i am there chuck [16:05:19] date and time > time zone > what to do? [16:05:42] server time :16:00 [16:05:53] but the actual timing here is 21:00 [16:06:38] try hitting "Fill in from browser" [16:07:04] then save [16:07:30] fine now [16:07:32] thanks [16:07:45] but [16:07:55] for those, who are not log-in ? [16:08:07] whats the time will be shown to them? [16:08:36] i'm not sure, have you tried.. oh, i dunno, logging out yourself, purging the cache, and looking? [16:09:09] ok,thanks [16:11:14] i am log-out [16:11:30] and its showing 2 hours ahead now. [16:11:55] is there any extention for date ??? [16:12:01] for time ^ [16:12:07] !time [16:12:07] --mwbot-- For help with configuring timezones in MediaWiki, please consult . [16:12:07] Berlin: 17:12 | Los Angeles: 08:12 [16:13:49] anybody, who can help me with cutomizing local time zone on my wiki? [16:15:45] read the link, the bot gave you [16:22:40] Hi, what to add in the url to get the page in english? [16:23:05] ?uselang=en [16:23:54] Simetrical: using ?uselang=en will automatically translate page in English? [16:24:01] no, it changes the interface language [16:24:51] *Captains still didnt get :( [16:24:56] any example please? [16:25:05] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?uselang=de [16:25:38] thanks Simetrical [16:25:54] becuase I'd like to pase an error message here, but in english [16:25:58] oh isee [16:26:01] *paste [16:26:46] !metakeywords [16:26:46] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "metakeywords". [16:26:49] !meta [16:26:49] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "meta". You might try: !cloak !dump !jobqueue !links !m !magicwords !memcached !migrate !namespaces !pywikipediabot !revert !spam !subst !sul !syntax !table !templates !toolserver !undo !wysiwyg [16:27:02] !keywords [16:27:02] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "keywords". [16:27:18] !interwiki [16:27:18] --mwbot-- Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wikibooks, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see and . For easy configuration, use [16:28:36] I'm trying to roll back an article, but I get this error message: User::incEditCount". MySQL returned the error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (localhost)". [16:28:59] Known bug, or am I doing something wrong here? [16:29:37] anybody here , who can help me writing a motto for my wiki , please ??? [16:34:22] 03ialex * r46205 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ChangesList.php: [16:34:22] * fix usage of 'number_of_watching_users_RCview' message to correspond with the other one in the same file [16:34:22] * use $this->message['hist'] rather than wfMsg( 'hist' ) [16:34:22] * Whitespaces tweaks [16:38:36] 03rotem * r46206 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: Localization update for he. [17:08:26] what is the page namespace for categories? [17:10:33] luminoso, "Category:"? [17:10:59] yes [17:11:05] What about it? [17:11:16] i want to delete them all. an import went wrong [17:11:24] i i'll use this command: delete from mw_page where page_namespace=10 [17:11:33] where namespace is the namespace of "category:" [17:16:02] luminoso: 14, not 10 [17:16:19] 10 is "Template" [17:17:31] 03malafaya * r46207 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (SpecialLanguages.i18n.php SpecialLanguages.php): Special:Languages i18n support [17:20:39] ialex, so 14 for categories? [17:20:42] thank you [17:20:52] yes [17:20:57] and np :) [17:20:57] :-) [17:21:28] luminoso: you can also get them from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces ;) [17:21:44] how much i work with mediawiki much i see that en.wikipedia is heavly developed [17:21:47] ialex, thanks [17:24:11] In Modern Skin, I wanna make headings in normal. Bold in default... [17:25:22] i had missed script... please help [17:26:18] h1#heading { display:normal; } ? Is it ? [17:52:17] Question: Is there a way to batch add users to the MediaWiki user DB? Perhaps through the api? I need to load some test user data into a test MediaWiki DB and would like to batch add this instead of loading it through "create user" one user at a time. [17:53:41] I imagine you can do it directly in the database. Don't ask me how though. [17:53:59] oh, maybe not passwords though [17:54:11] yeah, but I was hoping that someone had already done the password conversion work and I could use the api to do this. [17:54:32] Just trying not to recreate the wheel, kwim? [18:36:22] 03siebrand * r46208 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki [18:40:13] Good day. I've got 1.13.3 installed, in a fairly basic configuration. I'd like the ability to search the bodies, as well as the titles. Is there an indexer available, and if multiple ones, any suggestions as to which one is preferable? [18:41:57] eeee :d, how i can make more safely to my web site [18:42:19] do you know semi-protection? [18:42:37] how i can do it [18:42:39] k4jcw: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MWSearch [18:42:46] endezyar: what version of MW [18:43:21] Prodego|away, (who is apparently not REALLY away), thanks! [18:43:40] k4jcw: it should be Prodego|Ishouldbeaway :) [18:45:26] Any reason I should avoid the devel version, or is it pretty stable at this point? [18:45:47] k4jcw: not really, no [18:45:53] Cool. [18:46:03] if you match whatever wikimedia is using you should be good 99% of the time [18:46:24] we are on 1.14alpha (r45489) [18:46:49] *kirjain_X wonders why http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Assert_Edit shouldn't be merged into core [18:48:14] Where's CIA? :( [18:48:30] (please, no joke with the FBI :P ) [18:48:45] some people disturb my web site [18:49:18] CIA-59 has left irc.freenode.net (Remote closed the connection) [18:49:18] but i do not know how to repair [18:49:37] endezyar: link [18:49:45] I really have to go actually [18:50:27] endezyar: I'll be back later if no one helps you [18:51:47] Cia the FBI was looking for you [18:52:24] 03siebrand * r46213 10/trunk/extensions/ExtensionDistributor/ExtensionDistributor.i18n.php: Remove trailing whitespace [18:52:35] \o/ CIA-59 [18:55:13] :( [18:55:32] i do not understand how do it [18:56:41] endezyar: What kind of "disturb"? What are they doing? [18:57:55] for example [18:59:10] look please www.endezyar.org [19:00:13] 03siebrand * r46214 10/trunk/extensions/Farmer/ (Farmer.i18n.php MediaWikiFarmer.php): Replace hard coded trailing space in four messages by 'word-separator' [19:00:16] 03ialex * r46215 10/trunk/phase3/includes/RecentChange.php: Make RecentChange::cleanupForIRC() also call Sanitizer::decodeCharReferences() to remove HTML entities left by some messages (such as colon-separator, etc.) [19:00:30] endezyar: Those are spambots. [19:00:42] You can block the IPs using Special:Block [19:00:52] You can also install SpamBlacklist [19:00:57] !e SpamBlacklist [19:00:57] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist [19:01:54] If you do that, you should subscribe to our blacklist in addition to adding regexes for the domains the spambots are adding [19:02:19] endezyar: See also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features [19:12:49] do you know any different solution about this problem? [19:13:54] 03(mod) clearing one's watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13250 (10charlottethewebb) [19:14:51] 03malafaya * r46216 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Some i18n that was missing on edit page [19:16:57] 03nikerabbit * r46217 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * Fix message key conflicts [19:17:49] endezyar: Yes. You can block the IPs. You can install SpamBlacklist (or some other spam extension). You can add captchas. [19:49:21] hi, what are the principles of using namespaces. Is the intention of namespaces to create seperate spaces that can be controled considering user rights or anything else? [19:50:27] to separate content [19:50:39] mhm [19:55:21] 03siebrand * r46218 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings-ext.php: [19:55:22] * add support for ImportUsers [19:55:22] * fix unknown data type issue for wgSuggestCategoryRecipient (string -> text) [19:57:16] why would you seperate content, content is linked al over, how can it bi seperated, in what view [19:57:53] different prefix :P [19:58:35] mitixi: separate "real" content, user pages, project pages, images, etc. [20:00:57] 03siebrand * r46219 10/trunk/extensions/ImportUsers/ (3 files): [20:00:57] * use commaList() for description of CVS file format [20:00:57] * add right- and action- messages [20:00:57] * remove unneeded require for SpecialPage.php [20:00:57] * delay message loading [20:00:57] * fix indentation in SpecialImportUsers_body.php [20:01:01] * remove unneeded trailing space in 'importusers-form-file' [20:01:12] ok, so categries then structure each namesapce in a way like book is organized, and linking than gives something like crosreferences in a book and references are the same in wiki as in books [20:03:58] mitixi: yes [20:04:09] 03ialex * r46220 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php): Added CHANGELOG entry and bump version ;) [20:08:54] 03siebrand * r46221 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [20:08:54] * remove unneeded trailing space in 'mv_prevviewnext' and 'mv_viewnext' [20:08:54] * remove commented out getResultsHTML() (since 2008-08) [20:08:54] * remove trailing whitespace in MV_SpecialMediaSearch.php and MV_Messages.php [20:17:33] 03siebrand * r46222 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/OpenID.i18n.php: [20:17:33] * Remove unneeded trailing whitespace in 3 messages [20:17:33] * Remove other trailing whitespace [20:22:48] 03siebrand * r46223 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin.i18n.php: Remove unneeded trailing space in 'recordadmin-select' [20:26:39] 03ialex * r46224 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: Tweak for r46209: escape the message [20:28:25] 03siebrand * r46225 10/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/ (SpamBlacklist.i18n.php SpamBlacklist_body.php): Replace "\n" in 'spam-invalid-lines' by hard coded "
". [20:30:39] 03aaron * r46226 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php: Don't show extra copyright data on re-upload [20:43:34] 03(NEW) rollback of page blanking does not restore pagelinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17154 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (jaga_x_1) [20:44:22] 03siebrand * r46227 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add parameter to 4 messages to allow for better localisation ('smw_oi_statementsabout', 'smw_oi_mapto', 'smw_oi_thisissubcategoryof', and 'smw_oi_thishascategory') [20:44:40] 03shinjiman * r46228 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese [20:54:35] 03aaron * r46229 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): Remove redundant 'userpage' promote param [20:58:59] 03siebrand * r46230 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/SMW_Messages.php: Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki [21:00:35] 03siebrand * r46231 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesLzh.php: Fix syntax error [21:01:13] 03siebrand * r46232 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesYue.php: Fix syntax error [21:02:12] 03siebrand * r46233 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesZh_hans.php MessagesZh_hant.php): Fix syntax errors [21:07:35] 03(mod) E-mail notifications are sent on every change ( currently a wrong behaviour) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17084 high->highest; +comment (10mail) [21:09:03] 03raymond * r46234 10/trunk/extensions/ExtensionDistributor/ExtensionDistributor_body.php: [21:09:03] Add a space between dropdown menu and submit button [21:09:03] Use Xml::functions [21:09:24] is it really true i can get live help here? [21:09:44] perhaps [21:10:01] well this is my issue: [21:10:01] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Interface/Sidebar#Can_Not_Edit_Side_Bar_No_Matter_What [21:10:51] If anyone has any pointers or ideas, i'd be very grateful. And if you have a Macintosh and like Karaoke, I can set you up ;) [21:11:35] davec: which version of mediawiki? [21:12:05] now that's interesting [21:12:22] just yesterday it showed all the version info in that post.... huh OH, hang on, different URL [21:12:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Sections/System#Can_Not_Edit_Sidebar [21:12:59] * MediaWiki version: 1.13.3 [21:13:00] * PHP version: 5.2.6 (apache2handler) [21:13:00] * MySQL version: 5.0.67-log [21:13:00] * URL: http://karaoke.kjams.com/wiki/Main_Page [21:13:17] hmm [21:13:20] interesting [21:13:35] :) [21:13:39] davec: using account Dave? [21:13:44] yeppers [21:13:48] or WikiSysop [21:13:51] doesn't matter [21:14:12] Do admins have the editinterface right on the wiki? [21:14:15] yes [21:14:18] AFAIK [21:14:22] http://karaoke.kjams.com/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [21:14:27] which is what puzzles me [21:14:30] it is installed with that permission turned on by default [21:14:38] davec: what happens if you append action=edit ? [21:14:49] "you're not allowed to edit this page" [21:14:53] uh [21:14:55] informative [21:15:08] "This page has been locked to prevent editing" [21:15:13] davec: do you have $wgUsse... what's it called [21:15:19] ummm [21:15:22] err? [21:15:23] huh? [21:15:33] $wgUseDatabaseMessages is true? [21:17:20] is that in LocalSettings.php? [21:17:23] [21:17:34] davec: if it isn't, it is using the default value which is true [21:18:20] i don't see anything in localsettings with that name [21:18:43] now i AM using Auth_phpBB, would that interfere? [21:18:50] perhaps [21:18:58] i disabled it and logged in as WikiSysop, but still same exact problem [21:19:15] is there a way we can check? [21:19:54] well, there is of course an option to start manually adding checks to code to check where it fails [21:20:10] well i don't really know where to begin on that [21:20:14] davec: is it only sidebar or all mediawiki messages? [21:20:21] haven't checked [21:20:22] 03(NEW) Category counter not updated on article deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17155 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (paul.copperman) [21:20:28] i only care about sidebar at the moemnt [21:20:55] well, try [21:20:59] and some non-existent too [21:21:20] sorry, try what? [21:21:36] one that doesnt exist [21:21:51] hmm [21:21:59] ok, do you know of one off the top of your head? [21:22:08] yes, pages like MediaWiki:Jan and MediaWiki:FooBarILikeCats [21:22:51] well that has the create tab [21:23:01] so maybe i should delete the page? then create it again? [21:23:53] davec: MediaWiki:Jan too? [21:23:59] yep [21:24:11] strangely, it had an old deleted page at that place with the word "Jan" in it [21:24:15] how weird! [21:24:20] but yes it let me create a new Jan page [21:24:42] davec: no you didn't it just filled the default value from files [21:24:57] oooOOOooooh. [21:25:00] interesting [21:25:01] k [21:25:02] so at this point I guess there is something fancy with that specific message [21:25:04] hmhp [21:25:11] davec: do you have protect tab? [21:25:16] i'm a little nervous to delete the existing sidebar page [21:25:23] on the sidebar? no [21:25:30] uh, weird [21:25:41] http://karaoke.kjams.com/screenshots/no_edit_sidebar.png [21:25:49] sez i can delete it [21:25:54] which is a sysop priv [21:25:56] but no edit [21:26:29] well, you can try deleting and then creating it again [21:26:41] but if it fails, then my sidebar is GONE!! EEK! [21:26:52] davec: then we have to really solve this :D [21:26:53] 03(NEW) Provide a way to use custom editnotices for pages with slashes '/' in the title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17156 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (paul.copperman) [21:27:04] yes yes i'd much prefer a sure fire method [21:27:14] rather than "try this thing that may or may not blow up" [21:27:35] you don't have that kind of luxus here with remote support :D [21:28:10] luxus? [21:29:13] hmm, isn't it a word [21:29:23] do you mean luxury? [21:29:35] 03(mod) Provide a way to use custom editnotices for pages with slashes '/' in the title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17156 +comment (10public) [21:29:35] oh, yes! [21:29:44] k [21:29:50] See if it will let you edit MediaWiki:Edithelppage [21:30:12] well i'm willing to try, however before i do, i'd like to know what your plan would be if it allows the delete but then does NOT allow me to add a new one? what would you do then? [21:30:27] continue with the hard way [21:30:36] and what exactly is the hard way? [21:30:46] guessing reasons, modifying the code [21:31:16] well [21:31:35] i'm going to checkpoint my SQL DB first, so at least i can restore the sidebar if this deletion fails [21:31:39] so give me a minute [21:31:41] good idea [21:33:37] Hello, I have a question. We've lost our wiki and managed to recover it from the drive, but the data is damaged. The wiki still shows the old stats like article size, even when now wrong, is there any way to reset the article sizes so it counts correctly so we can see which articles are saved or not? [21:34:13] Guest699077583: try running some maintenance script under maintenance/ [21:34:26] like refreshAll or rebuildStats [21:34:45] I looked through those, but they didn't seem to do that, they only seemed like they refreshed the main statistics [21:35:10] But I'll try those two, thanks [21:35:46] "See if it will let you edit MediaWiki:Edithelppage", nope, does not let me edit [21:35:56] arf [21:38:26] ah HAH! [21:38:29] ok [21:38:46] so i *tested* this theory on the "MediaWiki:Edithelppage" page [21:38:51] i deleted it then re-createdit [21:38:55] and now i can edit!! [21:39:26] davec: the page did exists? [21:39:38] Yes it did, that's why I asked him to check it [21:39:40] the page did previously exist yes [21:39:45] but now i can edit [21:39:54] i just tried it on sidebar! and SOLVED! [21:40:00] i can now edit my sidebar!!! WOW! [21:40:07] been working on this for like a WEEK! [21:40:15] very weird [21:40:30] 03(mod) Provide a way to use custom editnotices for pages with slashes '/' in the title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17156 (10paul.copperman) [21:40:32] there must have been a glitch somewhere [21:40:37] i suspect that Auth_phpBB had interfered [21:42:46] thanks for helping jiggle my brain on this! [21:44:12] Is there any way to import one wiki's articles into another, and wherever an article already exist it keeps the existing one and don't overwrite? [21:45:11] it would be simple to have such an option in importDUmp.php, but i donÄt know if it does [21:45:16] anyway, it doesn't override as such [21:45:25] it imports *revisions*, not pages [21:45:33] hi Duesentrieb [21:45:35] so what you see in the end is the newest revision. [21:45:42] Duesentrieb: do you have an account and betawiki? [21:45:45] if that is an imported revision or not depends... [21:45:50] at* [21:45:51] Nikerabbit: hey- [21:45:54] 03river * r46235 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/ (TSexim.spec ext-sources/Makefile.exim): TSexim: new spec [21:46:01] uhm, yes, i think i et one of the other day [21:46:17] why? [21:46:35] Duesentrieb: please help testing http://translatewiki.net/sandwiki/index.php?title=Special:Preferences and http://translatewiki.net/sandwiki/index.php?title=Gendertest :) [21:48:01] Nikerabbit: testing the preferences? [21:48:28] Duesentrieb: the new one :) [21:49:37] uh... what's to test, really? [21:50:30] Duesentrieb: don't you guess by looking at the second page? :D [21:50:53] sure, but the fact that the switch works is already clear. [21:51:05] i have added me there, but how does that help? [21:51:26] Duesentrieb: dunno, perhaps add your opinion how it should work in page content :D [21:54:55] Nikerabbit: looked at caching a bit. but what do you mean be "in page content"? where else could it work? [21:55:06] you mean in messages? [21:55:08] Duesentrieb: interface messages [21:55:23] the mangeled version of messages never gets cached, right? [21:56:52] Duesentrieb: what does mangle mean in this context? [21:57:06] processed by the parser [21:57:30] which is indeed not a parser at all in our case, but a mangler :) [21:58:37] puh [21:58:53] Duesentrieb: only article contents and full pages (for anonymous) are cached? [21:59:34] 03(NEW) Pristine revisions should override quality revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17157 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (mrzmanwiki) [21:59:36] and {{gender:}} does not work in content -> no issues [21:59:52] and anonymous are always of the same gender -> no issues in full page cache either [21:59:56] well, lots of things are cached. but in this context... yes. [22:00:03] right. [22:00:16] but it does seem the test page does not use the parser cache [22:00:24] hi, i am trying to add hotcat as a gadget to my wiki. I copied nedded files from http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Gadgets/ to my extension/Gadgets folder and added require_once( "$IP/extensions/Gadgets/Gadgets.php" ); to my LocalSettings.php file. On MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition I added * HotCat|HotCat.js. I see Gadgets tab on special:preferences, and can select HotCat.js and I can see a script code. On Special: [22:00:31] otherwise, it would not reflect changes i make on my preference page right away [22:00:40] why is that? is it intentional? [22:00:48] or is tehre some explicit purging going on? [22:00:51] yes [22:01:02] Duesentrieb: I have probably disabled caches not to interfere with the real site [22:01:33] Nikerabbit: that makes this feature a bit hard to test... the only interesting bit is the caching behavior :) [22:01:52] Duesentrieb: I can provide patch if you want to test that part [22:02:04] mitixi: it seems your question got cut off.l [22:02:21] Nikerabbit: not right now, going to bed. [22:02:45] Nikerabbit: also... pathc? isn't this an extension? [22:02:56] Duesentrieb: nope [22:03:03] but i can se the whole question. can I post it again line by line [22:03:10] proper i18n shouldn't be an extension [22:03:43] mitixi: sentence by sentence would be appropriate [22:03:46] like refreshAll or rebuildStats <- I don't see any maintenance scripts called that [22:04:00] Terminus2: improvise, and remember backups [22:04:11] ok. i am trying to add hotcat as a gadget to my wiki. [22:04:20] On MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition I added * HotCat|HotCat.js. [22:04:31] I see Gadgets tab on special:preferences, and can select HotCat.js and I can see a script code. [22:04:39] But when checking a page a HotCat category selection option is not shown. [22:04:45] How can I check why hotcat is not working? [22:04:54] mitixi: have you installed HotCat.js ? [22:05:32] Well, they didn't do backups and we didn't know they didn't so we only have the damaged wiki db left. Would rebuildall.php do it? [22:05:48] what do you mean installed? [22:06:21] put the content of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TheDJ/Gadget-HotCat.js into MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js [22:06:30] mitixi: look into the html source code and see if HotCat.js is referenced. [22:07:33] mitixi: also, like Laaknor said: make sure the HotCat.js you are referencing it actually there. [22:08:08] mitixi: oh, and note that the code in there is: importScript("User:TheDJ/Gadget-HotCat.js") [22:08:19] so the *actual* code you need is in User:TheDJ/Gadget-HotCat.js [22:09:43] it works, I forgot the .js, its ok now [22:12:47] who the frig is Reedy ? [22:12:53] That's MY nickname in real life :p [22:13:10] StealthCP, at least my last name is double e :P [22:13:31] yeah, I wish mine was :P [22:13:35] lolz [22:13:36] I still get 'Reedy' though [22:13:54] lol [22:21:18] ok today I wrote a pile of integrated bash scripts in order to make managing, updating, backing up, and performing maintenance on a mediawiki installation, including maintaining a wiki from svn trunk, a code merger for protecting code related to modified skins, and other fancy automated stuff [22:21:47] I was wondering [22:21:57] if a similar system or tools already existed? [22:22:03] StealthCP: neat. copyleft it and put it on mediawiki.org :) [22:22:21] StealthCP: i wrote something for making backups... and i think there are two more linked on the backup page [22:22:45] copyleft :( [22:23:15] or bsd or mit or whatever you like [22:23:23] Free anyway :) [22:23:24] hehe, I could do, but the code needs to be a little more refined, some small areas are missing good error checking code and it's a little more tailored to our needs rather than a general use [22:23:50] StealthCP: naw. if you are not emberrased by the first version you published, you waited too long. [22:23:53] get it out there. [22:24:08] it can't be nearly as bad as a lot of crap we have :) [22:24:23] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Backup#External_links [22:24:29] StealthCP: --^ [22:26:15] but I'm particularly pleased with the code merger, it took a bit of work but works brilliantly, it succeeded in warning me when I did a major update via svn trunk, when new styles were added to skin css files relating to colour and so on, and listed the appropiate files, and generated diffs on them and placed them in the info/ directory :) [22:26:49] neat [22:27:05] for example we use a heavily modified MonoBook skin, to match the colour scheme of our project, can be seen at http://wiki.zdaemon.org [22:27:45] it's still not perfect, I want to make a few more changes to increase contrast in some areas where it lacks but I've not had time [22:27:54] uh... you don't need to mad the skin to change colors... [22:28:11] I prefer that method over wiki stuff [22:28:35] really? it's a LOT more messy. [22:28:40] I'd modified things in wiki pages relating to css and I didn't like the idea - wouldn't it cause a performance hit? [22:28:54] not really. [22:29:06] *Splarka blinks (tm) [22:30:00] additionally my Web Developer plugin notified me that the css stuff in pages like "MediaWiki:Monobook.css" was not loaded due to the mime type being plain/text [22:30:11] o_O [22:30:20] that should NOT be the case. [22:30:35] it should be served with the proper mime type. otherwise it wouldn't work at alöl with FF, for one thing [22:31:06] yes, if you just do what Wiki(p|m)edia does, you can pretty much be guaranteed that it will work [22:32:30] how does Wikipedia do it? [22:32:46] using MediaWiki:Monobook.css [22:32:52] it loads it as [22:32:55] [22:33:25] now how does it do that, yet my wiki loads it as text/plain? [22:33:57] StealthCP: the only explanation i can think of is: you screwed something up :) [22:34:06] I must have :P [22:34:11] ctype=text%2Fcss causes it to be served as text/css [22:34:40] so I'd probably be much better off making skin changes in MediaWiki:Monobook.css [22:34:48] it looks like its loading as text/css to me [22:35:01] hmm, how can I limit against what skins may be used? [22:35:08] I'd like ONLY Monobook to be used [22:35:40] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration [22:35:53] using Firebug I see "Content-Type: text/css; charset=UTF-8" in the response headers for MediaWiki:Monobook.css [22:35:57] !wg SkipSkins [22:35:57] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgSkipSkins [22:36:09] easy peasy [22:36:13] ok, done [22:36:37] I suppose I should move my skin changes into that page then, gonna have to check the best way of doing that [22:37:02] if it's just color and style, siomply copy the css. [22:39:33] 03(mod) more "jump to" accessibility links needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13765 +comment (10GregUbben) [22:40:43] it's not as simple as that [22:41:08] however Wikipedia's Monobook.css wiki page gives me a good example to go by [22:47:11] StealthCP: there exist good resons to modify the skin. Colors isn't one of them :) [22:47:16] anyway, i'm off to bed. [22:47:24] have fun [22:47:28] cya [22:47:34] and thanks [23:07:17] 03siebrand * r46236 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (34 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2009-01-25 23:00 UTC) [23:10:40] 03siebrand * r46237 10/trunk/extensions/ (43 files in 39 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2009-01-25 23:00 UTC) [23:19:29] 03(mod) Template parameters unavailable to XML-style parser tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 +comment (10GregUbben) [23:24:54] 03siebrand * r46238 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/ (UserProfile.i18n.php UserProfilePage.php): Add plural support for user stats [23:31:59] 03siebrand * r46239 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (SpecialTranslations.php Translate.i18n.php): Update messages for Special:Translations. Per suggestions of Nikerabbit. [23:33:28] howto change this link: http://wiki.zdaemon.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=104 [23:33:50] into something a little more wiki friendly? [23:34:12] 03(mod) E-mail notifications are sent on every change ( currently a wrong behaviour) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17084 (10JSchulz_4587) [23:41:33] 03danny_b * r46240 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRecentchanges.php: * improvement of r46173 via Aaron Shulz's idea [23:42:12] StealthCP: I'm not 100% but I think the only way would be to make a redirect in .htaccess [23:43:33] 03(mod) prefix search problems w.r.t. special characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17153 +comment (10rainman) [23:44:04] 03aaron * r46241 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/Stabilization_body.php: Break some lines [23:45:16] 03(mod) Pristine revisions should override quality revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17157 (10JSchulz_4587) [23:45:59] aaron, you're here by any chance under any other nick that i don't know? ;-) [23:49:32] StealthCP: if by 'wiki friendly' you mean as an inline link, [[Special:Allpages/Foo:]] should do it... with the colon, where Foo: is whatever you have namespace 104 as [23:49:55] that is indeed what I was looking for - I should probably have been a little more clear :P [23:49:56] thanks [23:50:13] but you can't really rewrite all ugly URLs into pretty, even action paths have limitations [23:54:23] where can i see what methods are available for $wgOut» [23:54:55] OutputPage.php [23:57:46] Tim-away: what directory? [23:58:02] good morning, tim [23:58:16] includes [23:58:17] malafaya: includes/ [23:58:33] or you can look at http://mwref.werdn.us, and type in OutputPage::, and all the methods will appear. [23:58:38] *werdnum