[00:04:20] maybe it's easier if i ask directly :): is there a way to change either the contents language or rtl dynamically within an extension? [00:07:54] Tim-away? do you know? [00:15:45] 03tstarling * r46242 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-appserver/apache2.conf: Removed x-server-status [00:18:21] Isn't it Australia Day? [00:18:36] *werdnum sends Tim off to a nearby barbecue and pool. [00:21:50] guys, is it possible to change contents language or RTL within an extension, or is it too late for that when the extension gets to run? [00:25:28] malafaya, you could *probably* do it by just setting it statically in the extension file that's included (not as part of any function), but that relies on the user not overriding it with a setting later on in LocalSettings.php. [00:26:46] Simetrical, i would like to set it according to user prefs and not to the global wiki setting. hardcoding it there wouldn't work the way i need. so i guess it's not possible [00:27:06] No, content language can't be set according to interface language. That's the point. [00:27:29] Content language is used for things that are saved into pages and stuff. [00:27:31] Simetrical, what about only RTL? [00:27:32] Like signatures, say. [00:27:40] RTL is kind of a mess right now. [00:27:50] That should really follow interface language, not content language. [00:27:55] Except for the content area. [00:28:08] yes, my intention was that :) [00:28:15] There's an open bug for that. [00:28:19] I have a moldering patch that tries to do it. [00:28:21] I think. [00:28:23] At least partially. [00:28:39] I'm afraid to commit it because I don't use RTL regularly, and so can't spot what's broken about it easily. [00:29:03] aren't there devs who do use it regularly? [00:29:07] Simetrical: At least you SPEAK an RTL language. [00:29:17] No active ones that I know of, who do more than translation work. [00:29:27] werdnum, yes, but not well enough that I refer to the Hebrew Wikipedia regularly. [00:29:41] Besides, when I try it's usually worse than the English one, even on Judaism-related topics. [00:30:00] Rotem does, doesn't he? [00:30:07] He at least used to do code work. [00:30:13] Yes, but he just does translation these days. [00:30:22] yeah. [00:30:28] what about ganglieri? [00:30:39] i havent seen him in a while [00:31:00] He's not a dev. [00:31:02] As far as I know. [00:31:06] ok [00:31:09] And yeah, haven't seen him lately. [00:31:26] Hoji was also doing some dev-related stuff in addition to fa localization, but again, not lately. [00:32:50] Can someone take a look at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 ? [00:39:41] is there any way to add a portlet that doesn't have the outer gray box [00:41:16] 03(NEW) oversight log param offender doesnt accept IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17158 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Oversight; (jayvdb) [00:43:34] chuck: style it after the fact [00:43:47] chuck: note that the logo, tabs, and personal toolbar are all portlets [00:44:01] sidebar portlets [00:44:03] is what i mean [00:44:32] ... [00:44:38] yes, style it after the fact [00:45:06] .pBody { [00:45:10] border: 1px solid #aaa; [00:45:32] #p-personal .pBody { border: none; [00:45:38] see what they did there? you just do that too [00:46:32] TimStarling, could you review the patch on bug 835? It adds . . . 12 lines. To Parser.php. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 [00:46:43] Well, 11 to Parser.php and one to MessagesEn.php. [00:47:59] $nocats -- that sounds like a variable that might be seen in the craigslist code. [00:48:06] mew? [00:48:31] werdnum, dogs only? [00:48:42] that's $nocats && !$nodogs. [00:49:16] + if ($nocats ) { [00:49:16] + $text = preg_replace('/\[\[category:.*?\]\]/i','',$text); [00:49:16] + } [00:49:20] yeah right [00:49:39] + if ($nocats ) { [00:49:39] + $text = preg_replace('/\[\[category:.*?\]\]/i','',$text); [00:49:39] + } [00:49:41] um, what? [00:49:44] oh, haha. [00:49:48] *TimStarling hears an echo [00:49:53] *Simetrical didn't look at it, don't blame me [00:50:10] I knew it! Australia is a hive mind [00:50:25] I'm not even in Australia ::) [00:50:28] it can probably be a parser function [00:50:31] hence the 5 seconds lag [00:50:36] *Splarka runs to tell someone, gets blown up by a kangaroo bomb [00:50:46] that's basically the same point that parser functions hook into [00:50:59] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 +comment (10Andrew) [00:52:47] I'm obviously missing something? What would be a better way to do it? [00:53:46] aiml: it's actually wrong, the regular expression doesn't match categories except in a certain special case [00:54:29] Not to mention it doesn't block categories which are included by a template in a template. [00:54:38] Are you sure? [00:54:44] Is that step done before or after template expansion? [00:55:10] It's *part* of template expansion. [00:55:19] oh wait, I see what you mean [00:55:26] *werdnum shrugs. [00:55:34] Even so, it's very inelegant. [00:55:43] It doesn't work for any non-English language. [00:55:48] That's considerably worse than "inelegant". [00:55:59] oh yeah, that's true. [00:56:17] I can't think of any other cases where it would fail, offhand, but there probably are some. [00:56:39] [[ category:foo ]]? [00:56:45] Does that work? Probably. [00:56:53] It would also remove completely normal Category tags [00:56:56] say, in tags. [00:57:00] Right, that's true. [00:58:03] I can't think offhand of the correct way to fix it, which is, I suppose, why it's an unfixed three-digit bug. [00:58:39] It's the kind of thing Tim needs to do, practically speaking. :) [00:59:09] That's not true. If somebody can write an elegant and correct patch that fixes the problem, it will go live. [00:59:18] I said "practically speaking". [00:59:24] Practically speaking, who's going to do that? [00:59:25] Tim. [00:59:25] It doesn't affect categories in nowiki tags [00:59:32] Oh, right, those are stripped. [00:59:36] Stripped [00:59:37] yeah :) [01:00:39] Hmm, I think I'll reboot in a minute to install this new disk. My SATA controller appears not to support hot-swapping on Linux. :( (Or at least it doesn't work when I try it.) [01:01:05] api has the feature to show the rendered/parsed content of such page. is there any way how to simulate transclusion there? [01:01:07] *werdnum would be happy if he could get linux to support his webcam. [01:01:21] Danny_B: there's an expand templates thing. [01:01:29] aiml: it's a fairly complex feature to do right [01:02:18] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [01:03:08] I think the best way to do it would be to add markers for replaceInternalLinks [01:03:09] 03mrzman * r46243 10/trunk/extensions/Oversight/HideRevision_body.php: (bug 17158) Check if a username is an IP address before checking if its a valid username when searching the oversight log [01:03:18] but if RIL had to detect them, that would slow it down [01:03:33] the regex you have there is actually O(N^2) in the worst case [01:03:41] Danny_B: action=parse&text={{template}} ? [01:03:42] in addition to being wrong [01:04:09] 03(FIXED) oversight log param offender doesnt accept IP address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17158 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [01:04:11] TimStarling: The method I was thinking of is a bit different. [01:04:38] it would be possible to make it O(N) and right, but that would be a few more lines of code [01:04:56] TimStarling: Parse the template separately, and add it as raw HTML (as if it was the result of a tag extension) [01:04:58] it would need to be benchmarked [01:05:39] That would have some issues, not least adding an extra parse, and you'd have to handle parameters correctly as well. [01:06:08] werdnum: it would have a huge syntactical impact [01:06:17] what's one of the special pages that CentralNotice has? [01:06:50] hmm, both work,but none returns html but htmlescaped stuff. i wonder what output usable in xhr returns the real html [01:11:00] anyone know of any [01:16:36] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralNotice [01:17:07] chuck: when all else fails, try the obvious :D [01:17:33] "Why isn't that on every wiki?" "because it is CENTRAL, you only need to admin it on one" [01:17:58] "What special pages are used on the individual wikis?" "none, why would you need any? not all extensions create special pages" [01:18:03] *Splarka FAQs in anticipation [01:18:29] werdnum: I did try :-( [01:18:40] i get an error saying it doesn't exist [01:18:59] Danny_B: I think it only escapes the HTML if you use the XML output (assuming we're still talking about the same thing) [01:19:25] chuck: on which wiki did you try? [01:19:35] werdnum: not a wikimedia one [01:20:19] chuck: sure. [01:20:31] test.yourwiki.net [01:20:31] chuck: what are you trying to do anyway? [01:20:41] i'm trying to use centralnotice on my wiki farm [01:20:42] MrZ-man: yeah i'll file the bug to add xmlunescaped format [01:20:58] is that possible? [01:21:16] would unescaped HTML work in XML [01:24:05] werdnum: do I need to do anything special to do it [01:25:02] chuck: Have a look at Wikimedia's setup in CommonSettings.php / InitialiseSettings.php and/or read the documentation and/or have a look through CentralNotice.php [01:26:17] werdnum: does it take anything more to enable a special page other than adding it to $wgSpecialPages [01:27:38] You shouldn't be touching $wgSpecialPages in your configuration files. [01:28:05] That variable is used only for extensions to hook into MediaWiki [01:30:25] werdnum: yeah, i know [01:30:33] i mean, is that the only thing it takes to make a special page work? [01:32:10] well, you also need a class, and that class needs to have a constructor that calls the SpecialPage constructor [01:32:18] and it needs an execute method, too. [01:36:39] I can't find any reason why this wouldn't be working :< [01:38:18] What wouldn't be working? [01:38:34] Special:CentralNotice [01:38:39] the wiki is saying that it doesn't exist [01:38:49] Does CentralNotice appear on Special:Version? [01:39:32] agh [01:39:40] now my password stopped working [01:40:38] why isn't CentralNotice working for me! do I need to install mediawiki? or have a computer? [01:40:44] chuck: Did you set $wgCentralNoticeInfrastructure = true? [01:41:15] oh my god >_< my password keeps getting messed up [01:43:17] werdnum: yeah, it shows up there [01:44:43] werdnum: and that is set, yes [01:44:52] and even if it wasn't, true is the default value :S [01:45:24] MrZ-man: yes. why shouldn't it be possible? in fact, there is no need to escape it now (as long as the output went through tidy thus is xml compliant) [01:47:04] the other possibility is to wrap the content in section which will cause that any unescaped character woin't be treated as xml special character (that means <>&"') [01:51:13] how to read user prefs in an extension? [01:51:34] $user->getOption( 'name' ); [01:53:30] werdnum, how do i get to $user? [01:53:56] Depends on what user you want to do. [01:54:03] The current user, global $wgUser, $user = $wgUser [01:54:11] thats it ;) [01:54:12] trhanks [01:54:20] another user, by name -- $user = User::newFromName( 'name' ); [01:55:09] $wgUser doesn't seem to hold a value [01:55:17] global $wgUser first. [01:55:48] yeah, stupid me :S. thank [02:10:00] what's the option for the language? [02:10:47] dunno [02:10:50] have a look :) [02:11:13] wpUserLanguage? [02:11:27] sounds like a post var. [02:12:22] $wgLang gives me what i need ;) [02:24:04] what type is $wgRequest? [02:24:16] it's an object [02:24:21] see /includes/WebRequest.php [02:25:27] where does the HTML header com from? i thought it was in OutputPage but apparently it's not [02:26:01] try either index.php or the skin's PHP file [02:31:04] if I change a global var, does is affect other HTTP requests? [02:31:16] or is it valid only for the current request? [02:36:51] malafaya: only for the current request. [02:37:11] so it's ok to play with globals safely [02:37:22] yeah [02:39:18] oh my god [02:43:58] chuck: does hacking with globals disturb you? :) [02:45:20] malafaya: ? [02:45:50] "oh my god"? [02:46:17] chuck: not related to my conversation with werdnum? [02:46:27] oh, no [02:46:30] my "oh my god [02:46:50] " was when I realized that my mediawiki installation had been compromised somehow [02:46:56] :S [02:55:34] Is there anything wrong with https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=5680&action=diff ? [03:20:43] aiml: looks fine to me [03:29:50] Just for the record, I'd like to say that the instructions for setting up Lucene are bordering on useless. [03:35:47] TimStarling: Cool thanks, any chance of getting it committed? Or what's the usual process on that? [03:37:12] aiml: Bugging a committer in here. [03:37:52] over and over again [03:38:12] I thought that was supposed to get better at some point. [03:38:22] All these damn coders and patches still sit around forever. [03:39:13] it's more fun to write code than to read it. [03:39:21] lies [03:39:23] and much easier and less time-consuming. [03:39:41] if that were true, the devs response to feature requests would be "I'll write that" instead of "write it yourself and submit a patch" [03:39:48] I don't really care what's fun. [03:40:25] Splarka: you miss the point - since no one ever looks at the patches, no work is required ;) [03:40:37] Marybelle: Volunteers do. [03:40:49] bah [03:41:06] werdnum: Except I'm not talking about volunteers. [03:41:20] never a problem for me, because I can always get someone to commit stuff for m [03:41:22] ee [03:41:23] oh [03:41:35] Marybelle: MW's few paid coders are still way overworked, and have other things in their job description [03:41:36] well Trevor is working on Datacenter management stuff, soon to be reassigned to the usability project. [03:41:54] Ariel is flat out doing local IT support in the office, and maintaining servers. [03:42:01] Tomasz.. I'm not sure what he does actually. [03:42:05] He. [03:42:07] Heh. [03:42:09] yksinaisyyteni: That sucks. [03:42:25] werdnum: and you? [03:42:30] MrZ-man: Abuse Filter [03:42:36] followed quickly by queued deletion. [03:42:54] Meanwhile the ancient bugs just get tossed to the side. :-( [03:43:13] Aaron would be the main candidate for that [03:43:22] but I don't know what he does.. he kinda does his own damn thing, as far as I can tell. [03:43:45] I always assumed Brion just e-mailed him a list every week. [03:43:55] Well, that's probably about right. [03:46:18] Surely this can't be right... [03:46:30] 175 bugs are "patch, need-review" ? [03:46:49] Wow. [03:46:52] this few? [03:47:13] You'd have more if people thought they had a snowball's chance of hell of ever seeing their work live. [03:47:19] s/of/in [03:47:34] Marybelle: you forgot the trailing / [03:47:54] Not really. [03:48:12] s/of/in/ [03:48:15] s/of/in doesn't work. [03:48:50] s/werdnum/LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE/g [04:17:15] hello, [04:17:17] EHLP [04:17:18] HELP [04:17:33] !help [04:17:33] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [04:18:06] Stanlin: Maybe you should say what your problem is. [04:18:33] is there a way to link text to the wiki.org? [04:18:45] You mean wikipedia? [04:18:47] something like [[intel]] and it goes to wiki.org/wiki [04:18:50] yep [04:18:52] wikipedia [04:18:57] [[wikipedia:Foo]] [04:19:02] ohhh doh [04:19:02] thanks [04:19:06] that would be wikipedia.org, not wiki.org [04:19:48] Indeed. [04:19:59] doesnt work [04:20:23] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/intel Link text] [04:20:29] Go a link to your site? [04:20:33] I think [[wikipedia: is default. [04:20:37] ohh link tedxt [04:20:50] [[wikipedia:CentOS|CentOS]] [04:21:05] but thats a waste of time to write it [04:21:08] cannot be [04:21:12] [[Centos]] [04:21:17] ?? [04:21:26] If you're on Wikipedia, sure. [04:21:29] If not, no. [04:21:37] You can make it something shorter, I suppose. [04:21:39] w: [04:21:46] I think I usually use wp: [04:22:28] aint wortking [04:22:40] That's because wp: and w: aren't default. [04:24:48] thanks, i guess im doomed to write all the syntax... [04:27:20] or just make a template such as {{wiki}} that has all the needed code so all you do is {{wiki|cheese}} and it links to the wikipedia article >.> [04:27:35] cool [04:27:38] how to make templates? [04:28:42] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents [05:13:59] HELP!! [05:14:07] how to disable the auto logout session [05:14:21] i usually want to edit an article in like 100 hours [05:14:29] and i dont like the idea to lose everything [05:15:44] Stanlin: Check off the "remember me" option when logging in? [05:16:06] Otherwise, you can store the page text you're working on in a document to work on later. [05:16:32] Alternatively, and if you're feeling adventurous you can try the new Drafts extension (which is so new it's not even on WMF production wikis) [05:16:49] I suspect a combination of #1 and #2 will be plenty. [05:19:41] the remeber me never works [05:19:48] it still kicks me out when i save [05:20:02] i just want to disable auto log off [05:48:51] 03(mod) Pristine revisions should override quality revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17157 (10mrzmanwiki) [07:06:18] 03siebrand * r46245 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/UserProfile.i18n.php: Remove unused message 'user-points' [08:04:27] 03(mod) No indication in which language input should be - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670 (10krixel) [08:05:04] 03(mod) E-mail notifications are sent on every change ( currently a wrong behaviour) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17084 (10mail) [08:05:24] 03(mod) No indication in which language input should be - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670 (10krixel) [09:06:13] moin [09:30:50] Hello, How can I display one template on all articles on a specific namespace? [09:36:09] !e PageNotice | Sadik_Khalid [09:36:09] --mwbot-- Sadik_Khalid: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageNotice [09:39:02] Thanks aiml & mwbot :-) [09:41:55] 03nikerabbit * r46246 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * (bug 13040) Gender switch in user preferences [09:44:09] on MediaWiki's Special:Version page, the revision number is shown beside the MediaWiki version. how can I get this information to display in my own mediawiki? [09:45:10] StealthCP2: {{CURRENTVERSION}} [09:46:49] StealthCP2: the revision number is shown only if you run a version checked out from svn. [09:47:05] StealthCP2: if you run a stable release, you don't need it anyway. [09:47:13] I do. I run latest trunk, as soon as any revisions occur [09:48:15] Duesentrieb_: there it goes [09:48:18] 03nikerabbit * r46247 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * (bug 13040) {{GENDER:}} magic word for interface messages [09:48:21] hmm.. [09:48:54] I run mediawiki from svn - but the webroot is an exported version of the tree, with the svn checkout stored elsewhere [09:48:57] could that be the reason? [09:50:00] sure. [09:50:14] Special:Version grabs the info right from the .svn dir. [09:50:21] if that isn't there, it can't show anything. [09:50:37] Nikerabbit: \o/ [09:50:37] that would explain it :) [09:51:33] well it's not that important, I'd prefer the web root ran an exported checkout, so I was wondering how it was displayed [09:52:06] 03siebrand * r46248 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: Follow up on r46246: register message keys [09:55:55] 03(mod) Gender switch in user preferences - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:03:25] !b 13040 [10:03:25] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13040 [10:03:44] stupid browser crashing =( [10:06:51] p858snake: get a less sucky one? [10:07:18] no i had like 50 tabs open [10:07:29] p858snake: and? [10:07:39] you lost all of them? [10:07:40] FF3 crashes on me all the time. [10:07:48] that plus other stuff on 512 ram isn't good [10:09:20] p858snake: get more, it is cheap nowdays? [10:09:35] get me a job [10:10:02] and it was like $85 when i enquired about a 1gig stick the other month when i was at the shop [10:14:08] how do I configure my SMTP settings in orded to have mediawiki sending out e-mails? in the initial configuration I've only being asked for an e-mail adress, no password, no server. How it's supposed to get working then? [10:14:56] anyways i might restart my whole computer and sees how it goes [10:17:19] If I have changes to skins/common/diff.css that I want to move into a Wiki page, where should I move them? [10:32:20] i can't get (TeX) to work. Everything seems to work fine, .pngs are created in "images/" (hash-subdirectories) and -tags are added to the page. however, the src attribute points to "/wiki/Images/math/.....png", which is delivered (when accessing directly) as a HTML document telling me that "there is currently no text in this page". could someone point me in the correct direction? :) [10:32:44] p858snake: ridiculous [10:33:02] even laptop memories are like 20 euro here [10:33:35] juifeng: isn't it images and not Images? [10:34:29] oh, wait [10:34:36] yes. the src actually is "images" [10:34:44] however, that seems to be a redirection to "Images".. [10:35:04] juifeng: are you using url rewrites? [10:36:19] i use "Alias" in an apache config file. no "mod_rewrite". Alias /wiki /var/www/mediawiki/index.php [10:37:21] juifeng: then configure your $wg..what's it name [10:37:40] $wgArticlePath = '/wiki/$1'; ? [10:38:05] no [10:38:24] $wgScriptPath probably [10:39:01] i set this to /mediawiki... uhm, maybe this should be /var/www/mediawiki ? let me try that. [10:39:38] nope [10:39:57] oh, i see. doesn't look right to me ;) [10:40:11] if that is mediawiki, then wgUploadPath is wrong [10:40:34] if that is not wrong, then wgMathPath is wrong [10:40:55] Ok guys, I have modified some css in main.css, here is an example: http://pastebin.com/m5e5fe932 [10:41:06] I am wanting to move this to MediaWiki:Monobook.css [10:41:21] do I need to paste the whole #content? [10:41:31] or just background and color? [10:41:56] just changes I guess [10:42:18] ok, I'm not sure how css works so that's why I was wondering [10:42:27] here's another example, that's a bit more difficult [10:43:11] it's in skins/common/shared.css [10:43:12] http://pastebin.com/m2a3f21ea [10:43:39] first, on which wiki page sohuld I put this? can it still go in Monobook.css? (that's the only skin I use on my wiki) [10:44:12] and second, I've commented out that, because I don't want a background colour applied - it should inherit what exists before. How would I do this? [10:45:55] Nikerabbit: thanks a lot! one of the tex-config-howtos said that wgUploadPath should be set to "images". that was wrong obviously, as it should be "/mediawiki/images". fixed now :-) [10:48:44] 03nikerabbit * r46249 10/trunk/phase3/languages/Language.php: * Shortcut return if no params given to avoid notices [10:58:06] 03siebrand * r46250 10/trunk/extensions/PovWatch/PovWatch.i18n.php: Add action- messages [11:07:45] 03siebrand * r46251 10/trunk/extensions/SignDocument/SpecialCreateSignDocument.i18n.php: [11:07:45] * update messages 'createsigndoc-success' and 'createsigndoc-error-alreadycreated' [11:07:45] * remove trailing whitespace [11:16:41] <[]-> hi [11:17:22] hello [11:18:16] 03malafaya * r46252 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/App.php: Base for RTL support on Wikidata [11:18:39] <[]-> anybody knows how to implement search page in mediawiki as at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search ? [11:19:10] I do not understand your question [11:20:32] <[]-> how to use google search at standard Special:Search page ? [11:20:44] 03(NEW) Diffs of redirect pages should assume redirect=no - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17159 normal; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (matthew.britton) [11:22:14] <[]-> Nikerabbit, compear http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Search and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search [11:23:35] edit suitable mediawiki message [11:25:17] hi, how do I create page which has slavic letter in it like ��� [11:26:08] 03(mod) Search by page size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9519 +comment (10matthew.britton) [11:26:18] mitixi: just write it? [11:26:30] <[]-> mitixi, simply create it and write [11:28:50] 03siebrand * r46253 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserWelcome/UserWelcome.i18n.php: Add plural for 'mp-welcome-points' [11:31:31] sorry, but I have some problems since I installed categorytree extension, it works now [11:32:45] categorytree should have nothing to do with creating pages... [11:33:43] Hello, some people at yourwiki.net installed flagged revision extension for me. I'm very happy with it :) [11:33:52] the question is [11:34:37] can I make certain users like sysops do changes and automatically be marked as stable ? [11:35:24] 03siebrand * r46254 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/UserProfilePage.php: Fix on r46238. Actually support plural in code, too. [11:35:56] <[]-> Nikerabbit, what mediawiki message deal with external search ? I can't find any [11:36:15] search in special:allmessages for the words you see there [11:37:49] <[]-> Nikerabbit, there is no words "Mediawiki search" [11:42:04] .. [11:49:45] bye, and thanks again! [11:49:48] 03(mod) whitelist interface strings of Wikimedia Commons for translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5925 normal->high; +comment (10lupo.bugzilla) [11:52:17] 14(INVALID) #time should show an error message for pre-epoch dates - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14774 +comment (10gtisza) [11:56:45] <[]-> Nikerabbit, this search is something dealing with javascript [11:57:05] ?? [11:59:08] <[]-> Nikerabbit, with javasript off I see only "Search for [ input field ] [Advansedsearch button] [11:59:13] yes it's added by javascript [11:59:28] look at common.js i think [11:59:42] <[]-> Nikerabbit, with javasript on I see only "Search for [ input field ] [MediaWiki search drop-box] [Advansedsearch button] [12:00:51] hi, I am using the hotcat.js extension and trying to add categories to the page. I can click the + sign and type in the input box the category name, but list of suggestions is not shown. Any ideas why? [12:09:00] 03(mod) rollback of page blanking does not restore pagelinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17154 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:12:26] any one knows about how flagged revision works? [12:12:49] can I set my wiki to show only stable version ? [12:13:09] it should show it to people not logged in [12:13:45] and for logged in users what should I do? [12:15:56] and if I edit some thing how to make it stable automatically. should I be editor? [12:20:15] yes. [12:20:31] but the flagged revision extension is very flexible. it can be configured to do many different things. [12:20:47] so the setup is a bit ticky i guess. i havn't tired. [12:23:29] I'm editor now and the same thing [12:23:40] I need to review every thing after I edit [12:25:08] then you didn't configure it right. [12:25:18] sorry, can't help you more. i just know it's possible. [12:28:37] hello... I am trying to configure mediawiki to send e-mails, where can I see the mediawiki logs? [12:29:49] i've already installed mail and net_send packages with pear [12:30:13] i've included in my LocalSettings.php this -> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSMTP [12:31:36] i've created a new user, and used the send mail button that claims tha the e-mail has been sent [12:31:47] but when I check on the mailbox, nothing has come yet [12:32:10] <[]-> there is no logs for mail in mediawiki [12:32:27] <[]-> use mail server logs [12:32:48] 03malafaya * r46255 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/App.php: Reversal of RTL changes [12:34:32] deleting users is bad for the mediawiki DB... myth or fact? [12:39:53] olspookishmagus: fact. [12:40:12] it doesn't *die*, but it's not nice. [12:41:05] olspookishmagus: have you checked your SMTP settings are correct? and are actually being used? [12:42:03] ok so, as soon as I'm done with my tests - I keep my LocalSettings.php and purge mediawiki and reinstall it from scratch [12:42:27] Duesentrieb_: it does work, I handle 4 different mail accounts with claws-mail [12:43:17] having some unused accounts sitting around hurts nobody. it's very usual for a wiki. [12:43:26] actually, on large wikis, most accounts are usused. [12:43:29] *unused [12:43:59] olspookishmagus: have you checked what happens if you supply the *wrong* password? [12:44:02] it should complain, then [12:44:36] the wrong password for sending out the e-mails; [12:46:02] hm. i have the latest svn installation and it seems that protecting pages is not working [12:46:28] http://www.ibiblio.org/wikiworld/mediawiki/test/index.php/Testing_protection [12:47:10] any idea? or it is a bug? [12:49:58] 03malafaya * r46256 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/App.php: Wikidata RTL whoes resolved [12:50:41] Duesentrieb_: thanks... I'll look into it [13:15:15] 03rotem * r46257 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he. [13:20:09] 03siebrand * r46258 10/trunk/phase3/ (114 files in 3 dirs): [13:20:09] Introduce 'deletedcontributions-title' as page title for [13:20:09] Special:DeletedContributions to avoid having to share the message with that used [13:20:09] on Special:SpecialPages. Copy contents from 'deletedcontributions' where [13:20:09] available. At request of Fryed-peach. [13:23:11] Hello, does anyone know how i can change the urls of the wiki like; http://nl.wikigta.org/wiki/Main_Page ? [13:23:24] Normally it's; /index.php?title=Games [13:25:20] Someone that can react of you 100 people? :D [13:28:01] !shorturl | Cobraz0r [13:28:01] --mwbot-- Cobraz0r: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [13:31:06] 03siebrand * r46259 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/ (SMW_LanguageKo.php SMW_Messages.php): [13:31:06] Remove Korean translation for SemanticMediaWiki. Apparently machine translation [13:31:06] that does more harm than good. Messages will be restored partially where [13:31:06] translated manually. Ref: [13:31:06] http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?oldid=1020123#Semantic_MediaWiki_in_Korean [13:51:05] 03catrope * r46260 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [13:51:05] * API: (bug 15949) Add undo functionality to action=edit [13:51:06] * Move undo text generation from EditPage::getContent() to Article::getUndoText() [13:51:06] * Add some more examples for action=edit [13:51:06] * ApiEditPage.php: don't mix !is_null() and isset(), be consistent [13:51:16] 03(FIXED) Make 'undo' function available through the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15949 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:56:42] 03river * r46261 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/TSfindutils.spec: TSfindutils: new spec [14:20:05] siebrand: Saw your lift offer at MW.org. Do you have any idea when you'll know whether you'll go? Also, just how fast will your car go ;) ? [14:43:37] 03shinjiman * r46262 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese [15:03:03] RoanKattouw: have to book the trip for a business conference in May on which my wife will join me first. I think I will have leverage enough to propose I go to Berlin after that :) [15:04:03] RoanKattouw: it's 637km, so ~5 hours. [15:04:17] siebrand: I meant more like in terms of km/h [15:04:31] RoanKattouw: oh, top speed of the car is 230. [15:04:34] (considering your warning about faint-heartedness) [15:04:44] *RoanKattouw looks at the route from Utrecht to Berlin [15:05:01] RoanKattouw: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=utrecht,+nederland&daddr=berlijn,+duitsland&hl=nl&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=41.003738,93.164063&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=7 [15:05:33] Ah, no Bremen-Hamburg in there. That trajectory really doesn't lend itself to 200+ speeds (not even 100+, lot of road works going on) [15:06:05] RoanKattouw: I have done a lot of Utrecht-Hamburg v.v. lately. [15:06:16] Ah, so you know all to well [15:06:24] RoanKattouw: If I want to drive fast, I take the 31 north from Enschede. [15:06:45] RoanKattouw: It's a 30km detour, but quicker during the late evening/night. [15:06:52] To Hamburg, you mean? [15:07:02] *siebrand nods at RoanKattouw. [15:07:30] Are the 7 Hannover-Hamburg and the 1 Osnabrück-Hamburg that bad then? [15:08:01] RoanKattouw: they suck at the moment. ~50km of roadworks from the border to Hamburg. [15:08:07] :O [15:08:40] Well some of that is on the 1 past Bremen, which you're gonna take anyway (unless you take the 7 from Hannover, but that sucks traffic-wise) [15:08:57] 28 is pretty good though, except for that one tunnel near Leer [15:11:36] Hmm, just looked up some stuff on autobahnatlas-online.de: 30 has pretty much no speed limits (some 2-3 km stretches of 100 km/h here and there), the 2 has quite some 120 and 130 stretches [15:13:50] siebrand: *If* you go, and *if* you agree to take me with you, would you mind picking me up at a train station? (Doesn't have to be Utrecht CS, could be anywhere in the country for all I care) [15:28:09] RoanKattouw: I'm sure we would be able to arrange something. [15:28:28] That would be nice [15:28:53] 03siebrand * r46263 10/trunk/extensions/ (9 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed) [15:28:53] Remove extensions that have been added to core during development of MediaWiki 1.14, or otherwise were declared obsolete. [15:28:53] * BotQuery [15:28:53] * DeletedContributions [15:28:53] * ExtensionLoader [15:28:55] * InstantCommons [15:28:57] * LinkSearch [15:38:07] Hallo all together, anyone german speaking here? [15:48:44] !ask | Josef67 [15:48:44] --mwbot-- Josef67: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [15:55:26] I have installed a fresh wiki (latest version), first it works fine, but after editing some pages, some words and characters are displayed very crazy. (here a screenshot: http://www.jeff-schwarz.de/screen/Bild1.png) [15:57:01] Josef67, not sure about {{{ITENAME}}} (looks like a bad magic word, possibly language setting related), and it looks like you're missing a [ on the later part to complete the link (or you have an extra ]) [15:58:21] "{{{ITENAME}}}" should be the wiki-name: "trainer-wiki" [16:05:27] check your wiki markup as suggested. looks like you have some errors [16:06:45] try {{SITENAME}} [16:06:49] not {{{ITENAME}}} [16:07:23] 03siebrand * r46264 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/ (UserProfile.i18n.php UserProfilePage.php): [16:07:23] * add plural support for 'user-profile-points' [16:07:23] * improve i18n for 'user-count-separator' [16:07:50] Is there a release to run from a windows server? [16:08:18] tsunami, iis or apache ? [16:08:41] buzz__: probably iis, its easier [16:09:00] you could try looking at one of the guides on the medawiki site [16:09:00] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki_on_Windows_Server_2003 [16:09:03] 03malafaya * r46265 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (4 files in 2 dirs): RTL goodies [16:09:27] which i found by typing "installing mediawiki iis" on google (ddi you try searching?) [16:10:38] buzz__: i only tried navigating around the faq real quick. [16:10:47] buzz__: thanks though, for the pointer. [16:13:20] i searched in google sure, but i didnt find the right words for the search. OK i will follow your hints - thanks a lot for your help... so bye all [16:17:22] Hello, again. :) [16:22:04] o.o [16:27:00] !ask | Zexiion [16:27:00] --mwbot-- Zexiion: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [16:27:09] I need some help fixing my installation on my site. [16:27:22] CSS is totally disappeared. [16:28:00] uh [16:28:11] .-. [16:28:12] Zexiion, check your webserver's error log [16:28:19] 03siebrand * r46266 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (28 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2009-01-26 16:18 UTC) [16:28:20] and Firefox's error console [16:28:29] and delete your browser cache [16:29:37] It's nothing dealing with the browser. [16:29:52] All I did was rewrite the URL [16:30:08] And added a subdomain, and then it all went awry. [16:33:10] ah [16:33:16] yes, I see where your problem is [16:33:34] your rewrite rule tries to rewrite the CSS urls [16:33:55] Zexiion, or, your path settings in LocalSettings.php are broken [16:33:58] check these [16:34:12] and maybe add rewrite debug to your webserver [16:34:23] so you can see what happens if the browser requests a CSS file [16:34:27] I don't run the webserver, I'm on a host. [16:34:44] ah okay [16:35:01] so, then... try to load one of the css files in your browser [16:35:10] or give me the url and i'll see what causes it [16:35:25] PM or here? [16:36:02] 03siebrand * r46267 10/trunk/extensions/ (51 files in 45 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2009-01-26 16:18 UTC) [16:45:52] 03(mod) Feature Request: Transclusion Preprocessing Hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17131 (10nyphbl8d) [16:47:03] 03(mod) Feature Request: Transclusion Preprocessing Hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17131 (10nyphbl8d) [16:47:14] o.o [16:48:02] HardDisk_WP: PM or here? [16:48:39] 03(mod) Moved page protection should be attributed to the last admin to protect the "old" page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16154 +schema-change (10happy_melon) [16:48:43] here [16:49:26] http://wik.nxiii.co.cc/wiki/Main_Page [16:55:57] looking for any kind of extension (the simplier the better) which creates some . every line in it is of same sense. and it's parsed the way that each line produces some wikitext. any idea? [16:56:59] Zexiion, ic [16:57:05] your stylesheet path is wik [16:57:11] but your wiki directory is wiki [16:57:16] you forgot the i at the end [16:57:29] There is no directory to "wiki". [16:57:34] It's a virtual one. [16:58:23] then change the paths in localsettings.ph [16:58:24] p [16:58:32] so the links to the stylesheet get valid [16:58:32] To what? [16:58:42] no idea, i dunno your rewrite ruls. [16:59:46] I removed the rules because my .htaccess does it automatically. [17:00:37] right [17:00:44] where is your wiki stored under your web root? [17:00:49] /wik? [17:01:16] var stylepath = "/wik/skins"; [17:01:16] var wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1"; [17:01:16] var wgScriptPath = "/wik"; [17:01:16] var wgScript = "/wik/index.php"; [17:02:25] Where does that go? [17:03:04] StealthCP, wont help him [17:03:20] Zexiion, where can the "skins" directory be reached from public? [17:04:57] Um... [17:05:36] http://wik.nxiii.co.cc/checkthisout [17:05:45] he's redirecting EVERYTHING to /wiki [17:05:54] so if the wiki is under /wik [17:05:55] or /w [17:05:58] you can't access it [17:06:03] so the stylesheets can't be loaded [17:06:31] I'm totally new to this. x.x [17:06:35] yes [17:06:47] All I really wanted to do was rewrite the URL. [17:06:51] you should only perhaps redirect http://wik.nxiii.co.cc/ to http://wik.nxiii.co.cc/wiki/ [17:07:18] and Alias /wiki to /wherethewebrootis/wik/ [17:07:23] if /wik is where the wiki is [17:09:22] 03mrzman * r46268 10/trunk/extensions/Oversight/HideRevision_body.php: simplify per Aaron's comment on r46243 [17:11:14] After adding the alias in .htaccess, it turns to a 500 ISE. [17:17:34] did you remove the rewrite rules? [17:19:21] Yeah. [17:19:22] hello guys... i have all categories from one top category... is there a way i'd display category links at left below Navigation links [17:20:50] is there such plugin? [17:20:58] hi all [17:21:09] hi [17:23:00] is there a guide somewhere, where i can find out. how i can create a user in the database from a external source ? when you regiser in one software to also create a user in mediawiki. [17:24:33] i guess i'll try this http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree [17:30:07] 03(NEW) user namepace relate to gender switch in user preferences on pl.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17160 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (danny.leinad) [17:33:40] this is probably one of the most common questions, but why the heck doesn't the logo as defined by $wgLogo = "logo.jpg"; show up consistently? when I purge a page, it appears, but then when i go to the page again, it's vanishes [17:34:04] *it vanishes [17:34:38] $wgLogo is defined as the very last entry in LocalSettings.php [17:34:40] chasingsol: because you're using a relative path that's incorrect [17:35:01] why would it show up when i purge though? [17:35:29] logo.jpg is in the root directory of the wiki [17:35:40] namely /home/httpd/w/ [17:35:43] sorry Zexion [17:35:50] 03(mod) No stylesheets for flagged revisions box on cologne blue skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17110 (10fuzxxl) [17:35:52] Alias /wiki to /wherethewebrootis/wik/index.php [17:35:52] chasingsol: because then your relative path is / [17:35:58] whereas on the view it's /index.php/ [17:36:07] but there is no /index.php/logo.jpg [17:36:11] aaaah! [17:36:13] ok, that makes sense [17:36:15] or rather there is, but it's HTML :) [17:36:39] hello, brion [17:36:57] brion: defining it as /w/logo.jpg worked [17:37:01] thank you, i appreciate it [17:37:11] 03(mod) No stylesheets for flagged revisions box on cologne blue skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17110 (10fuzxxl) [17:37:17] been driving me up the wall for days [17:37:57] chasingsol: :) [17:38:02] i should have realised it was because i was using pretty URL's [17:38:07] duh @ me [17:41:22] Is it possible to adjust permissions to the 'user' group so new users can add and edit comments/discussions, but not edit actual wiki pages? It looks like the 'createtalk' permission implicitly requires the edit permission. [17:44:24] 03(NEW) Inputbox search forms do "go" when hitting Enter in Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17161 normal; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Inputbox; (brion) [17:46:29] brion: there are minties and tim tams in the kitchen... [17:46:33] *werdnum tempts brion [17:47:58] :P [17:48:06] 03malafaya * r46269 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Expression editor i18n support [17:48:20] nom nom nom. [17:49:49] *werdnum waves mdale [17:50:06] hi [17:53:40] Add that in to the .htaccess? [18:02:13] 03mrzman * r46270 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (EditPage.php parser/ParserOptions.php): add mIsPreview and mIsSectionPreview to parserOptions, set in EditPage. patch by Brad Jorsch on bug 16854 (changes to Cite in next commit) [18:02:27] 03mrzman * r46271 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/ (Cite.i18n.php Cite_body.php citeParserTests.txt): (bug 16854) Show an error message when a page has tags and no . Patch by Brad Jorsch. [18:03:02] 03(FIXED) without - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16854 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [18:23:24] what extension to use so article has category and subcategories info at start? [18:24:52] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs2 like at this article [18:25:03] i tried adding this, but nothing happens [18:27:39] is there a guide somewhere, where i can find out. how i can create a user in the database from a external source ? when you regiser in one software to also create a user in mediawiki. .. anyone =( ? [18:27:49] !authplugin [18:27:49] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [18:27:55] That could be useful [18:28:19] (although it creates the new user on-demand, not necessarily automatically) [18:29:54] automatically is just on-demand programmatically [18:31:00] well i know about authplugin, all tho it looks like i ahve to do use it .. , but i want when the user is created in joomla to automaticly create the same user in mediawiki ... i have looked over the mediawiki source but i simply cant figure out the "RAW" code for adding new users... [18:32:01] 03(NEW) Allow to disable autoreview for non-reviewers on a particular page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17162 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (cenarium.sysop) [18:32:19] brion: I'm working on some loggish views (like a recentchanges and contributions for the abuse filter), but let me know if/when you're ready to put the thing on test. I'm assuming you're pretty busy for such things, it being a Monday. [18:34:27] ofcause i knwo how to insert in to database and update and delete... but i simply cant figure out how mediawiki is formating the data. so i can repreduse it from external source. [18:34:53] a_enchanter_00: When possible, it's always best to use MediaWiki's internal methods for that [18:35:04] Look at how SpecialUserlogin.php does it [18:35:08] (it's in includes/specials) [18:36:58] werdnum: ya ofcause its best =), i dont want to add incorect data if i can avoid it =P [18:37:10] can i ask a newbie question please [18:37:19] this link boxes on left [18:37:27] MediaWiki:Sidebar [18:37:27] can i change order of them? is that code or skin? [18:37:33] oh [18:37:55] !sidebar [18:37:55] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [18:38:15] i see.. i want to move one extension up [18:38:19] but it's not even listed here [18:38:37] categories make more sense than 'last edited page' [18:38:40] to be at top [18:39:02] http://sponka.net/Glavna_stran [18:39:18] it's in my language.. but last thing on left is categorytree extension [18:40:26] i load it in LocalSettings :) [18:43:24] mmm avar?:) [18:44:09] werdnum: you have a link for documentation on how to use that file ? [18:44:29] a_enchanter_00: Well, I'm just saying you should look at it and copy what it does. [18:44:39] is there a way for extensions to sidebar to be placed more at top, not at bottom of all sidebar? [18:44:42] The shortest way to add a user, in MediaWiki code, is [18:44:56] $user = User::newFromName( 'Username' ) [18:45:18] !$user->exists() or die( "User exists." ); [18:45:18] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "$user->exists()". [18:45:26] $user->setPassword( "New password" ); [18:45:28] hello werdnum [18:45:28] $user->insert(); [18:45:31] hi Nikerabbit [18:46:30] damn is my question too hard or you are just ignoring me? [18:47:34] miha: Most of us either don't know the answer, or are too busy to respond. [18:47:46] i see:) [18:47:58] i thought i have simple newbie problem [18:47:58] ok [18:50:04] miha: also, I don't really know what you're talking about [18:50:12] a link or screenshot might be handy. [18:50:21] 03werdna * r46272 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add a handy 'Abuse Filter log' where you can see all recent changes to filters, and narrow it down by user if you like. [18:52:41] 03werdna * r46273 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: If no groups are being removed, then don't add a LogPage entry for the 'degroup' action! [18:53:07] werdnum: http://sponka.net/Osnove_Apache_Mod_rewrite_in_php last thing on left side is kategorije.. (CategoryTree extension) [18:53:24] if i could i'd have it below search [18:53:48] but it is loaded in LocaleSettings.php [18:53:54] not in Mediawiki:Sidebar [18:54:14] say i have template called mytemplate. it contains foo. i need it to be rendered as
foo
in both cases of displaying the template page as well as when the template is transcluded. how can i do that? [18:54:25] Ah, I don't know anything about CategoryTree [18:54:26] but we'll see. [18:54:41] well by default it seems extensions are placed under sidebar [18:54:45] Have you looked at the documentation for that extension? [18:56:27] werdnum: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar#content_of_sidebar_and_toolbox_.28javascript.29 well here it is another way [18:56:36] but i dont quite understand this yet [18:57:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree#Using_CategoryTree_in_the_Sidebar i used this [18:57:55] which adds it to end [18:58:51] ok i leave it [18:58:55] sorry for annoying you all [18:58:58] take care [18:59:06] hello [19:01:07] ( ! ) Fatal error: Call to a member function matchStartToEnd() on a non-object in /home/andrew/wm-svn/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php on line 2842 [19:01:10] hmm [19:01:13] *werdnum looks bewildered. [19:01:27] methinks somebody broke trunk :) [19:03:32] false alarm [19:03:43] My working copy wasn't quite clean. [19:03:43] 03(mod) Link with action=edit&redlink= 1 leading to existing page should redirect to plain view - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15242 (10mormegil) [19:11:35] 03aaron * r46274 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ProtectionForm.php: Break line [19:13:27] werdnum: awww [19:23:13] Anyone know if apiedit will be on by default in 1.14? [19:23:29] 03werdna * r46275 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [19:23:29] Fix up Abuse Log, by adding descriptions for variables, styling the variable table. [19:23:29] Also, fix up a message naming conflict introduced by r46272. [19:24:20] Reedy: I think it is [19:25:49] "Changing wiki content through the API is enabled by default as of MediaWiki 1.14; it can be disabled by setting $wgEnableWriteAPI = false; in LocalSettings.php. In MediaWiki 1.13 and earlier, you have to explicitly enable the write API with $wgEnableWriteAPI = true;" [19:26:09] woo! [19:29:08] ? [19:31:25] 03werdna * r46276 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewList.php: Fix link on main AbuseFilter changes. [19:38:31] Hey, [19:38:35] Anyone here ? [19:38:53] !ask [19:38:53] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [19:39:00] oh :) [19:39:20] I installed the MediaWiki on my shared hosting (got from ISP) [19:39:42] but after every few clicks the site become in-accessible. i need to wait few min. [19:39:52] What error message do you get? [19:39:55] i need help in a local wiki [19:40:08] Internal error 500 [19:40:11] with a template, can anyone help me? [19:40:23] Chura: what's in the webserver log? [19:40:35] 03ashley * r46277 10/USERINFO/ashley: updating my userinfo [19:40:54] when i check with firebug, i see just a redirect from wiki.wansup.net to http://wiki.wansup.net/index.php/Main_Page, and then empty page. [19:41:07] i dont have access, its a shared unix env [19:41:19] busy, i guess... ;) [19:41:27] anyone can help me? [19:41:37] !ask | Glacious [19:41:37] --mwbot-- Glacious: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [19:42:17] i have problems creating Template:Incomplete in dv.wiki [19:42:28] i have created the necessary ambox templates [19:42:45] and added wat is needed to the css [19:42:56] Hello [19:43:18] but i still cannot view the template:incomplete from dv [19:43:30] http://dv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DE%8A%DE%A6%DE%82%DE%B0%DE%88%DE%A6%DE%8C%DE%B0:Incomplete [19:43:32] It's possible to have a separated "Notes" and "Bibliography" section? I see Cite.php it's a bit limited when trying to separate them [19:43:46] is the local template page [19:44:00] I have one document that has both bibliographic references and notes, other document has them but Bibliography is in a separate page [19:44:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Incomplete is the english one [19:44:15] saper, werdnum, any idea ? [19:44:46] so wat can i do to make this template? [19:45:41] *werdnum dunnos [19:46:10] Chura: well without logs, it can be anything. [19:46:11] 03aaron * r46278 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.sql: Tweak comment [19:46:18] any configuration problem [19:47:10] Glacious: having a look at it, how do I make the interface LTR? [19:47:35] add
[19:47:40] i see :( [19:47:41] thanks [19:47:52] Hello. Are tehre any way of separating notes from bibliographic references in mediawiki? [19:48:21] the Ambox templates seems fine right? [19:49:48] i tried using Tmbox, rather than Ambox to start the template [19:49:55] and it works well [19:50:09] but Ambox, Dmbox surely does nt work [19:51:07] for example, now, wiki.wansup.net > inaccessible [19:51:14] can some1 try now ? [19:52:02] Chura: works for me [19:52:11] strange [19:52:18] i see nothing but empty page [19:52:22] lemme clear cache [19:52:32] Chura: Welcome To WikiWan [19:52:32] This Wiki is made for you, for you knowledge, and for making things happen. Please Contact us with fresh idea's [19:52:35] and now its back [19:52:40] Chura: "Useful" [19:53:18] whats usefull ? :) [19:54:25] "Useful", not "usefull" [19:56:08] oh, its just tests [19:56:14] one last question :) [19:56:25] can i block access to the site to only 1 ip ? [19:56:47] Chura: that should be possible [19:56:49] since its shared i cant control FW [19:56:56] hi everyone... having some difficulty getting LuceneSearch and MWSearch to play together [19:57:00] so, something with htaccess or the wiki settings [19:57:02] you would need to edit a .htaccess file though [19:57:17] MWSearch has been successfully installed, Lucene is indexing properly [19:57:30] but when I search for something on the wiki it comes up blank [19:57:52] hey Linuxbeak [19:57:52] i'll search and come back for questions:) [19:57:54] thanks guyes [19:57:56] guys [19:57:58] !mwsearch [19:57:58] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "mwsearch". You might try: !lucene [19:58:00] !lucene [19:58:00] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MWSearch [19:58:05] *werdnum shrugs. [19:58:09] That's all I know about it. [19:58:14] hi. I already tried that. [19:58:35] according to Special:Version MWSearch is installed correctly [19:59:09] Linuxbeak: Have you installed this one too? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lucene-search [19:59:17] Yes. [19:59:40] And you've entered the lucene server settings correctly? [19:59:52] Like I said, Lucene is indexing properly [20:00:09] *werdnum doesn't have any idea, really. [20:00:12] Never used it. [20:08:35] Glacious' problem solved, had table.metadata { /* ... */ display:none; /* ... */ } in [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] [20:14:19] 03ialex * r46279 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (5 files): Added $wgMaxRedirects, $wgInvalidRedirectTargets, $wgNoFollowDomainExceptions and $wgUseTwoButtonsSearchForm [20:14:47] 03aaron * r46280 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.php): Expand $wgFlaggedRevsPrecedence ability per bug 17157. No changes to defaults. [20:19:51] would someone know of a way to block this ip address (124.120.0.0 - 124.121.255.255) .... have a persistent spammer [20:19:58] err block that ip range [20:21:21] luna6: That's 124.120.0.0/15, which is larger than you can block in MediaWiki. [20:21:35] You can only block up to a /16 to keep sysops from doing too much damage [20:21:39] but you can block it as two /16s [20:21:45] ok thanks I kind of thought so [20:21:58] Right. [20:22:05] i have been adding 124.120.1.0/24 ..and on down [20:22:15] but hoped there was a way to just block that whole range [20:22:15] luna6: 124.120.0.0/16, 124.121.0.0/16 [20:22:48] 124.120.0.0/16, 124.121.0.0/16 <-- that would work? [20:23:04] as two separate blocks, yes [20:23:17] awesome thanks a bunch! [20:26:14] anyone have experience installing Lucene and MWSearch? [20:27:45] 03ialex * r46281 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: typo in 'abusefilter-edit-builder-vars-removed-links' [20:28:29] again. wiki.wansup.net is not working [20:28:40] cant i debug it without accessing the server ? [20:31:56] Chura: maybe a syntax error in LocalSettings.php [20:34:38] ialex, i used the default one [20:34:52] also, its once working and 5 min not... [20:37:24] Chura: can you paste it in a pastebin? (after removing passwords) [20:39:29] 03aaron * r46282 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: Add getPrecedence() convenience function [20:41:16] I'm back. [20:43:10] And... for some reason, MW does not like the URL script in LocalSettings.php. -.- [20:47:42] ialex, http://rafb.net/p/ZPobNA56.html [20:48:06] 03aaron * r46283 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) [20:48:06] * Fixed watchlist check [20:48:06] * Improved expiry handling [20:48:06] * Added 'pristine' precedence setting back [20:48:06] * Added reason/time dropdown [20:48:07] * Expanded comment width a tad [20:48:07] 03(FIXED) Pristine revisions should override quality revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17157 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [20:48:09] * Removed some useless css classes [20:48:48] 03(mod) Make Drafts optional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17064 +comment (10aik) [20:49:19] Chura: the file seems to be correct [20:49:30] *Zexion is getting very frustrated. -.- [20:50:03] :O [20:50:06] they stole brion! [20:50:27] ialex, i dont get it, this hosting have 3000 sites on it, how come only mine stucks [20:52:07] Chura: or memory_limit exhausted [20:52:12] !errors [20:52:12] --mwbot-- To see PHP errors, add this to the very top of LocalSettings.php: error_reporting(E_ALL); ini_set("display_errors", 1); Fatal PHP errors usually go to Apache's error log - also check the error_log setting in php.ini (or use phpinfo). For more details in wiki error reports, set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; $wgShowSQLErrors = true; For full debug output, set $wgDebugLogFile to some path you like. [20:52:53] Chura: can you put "error_reporting(E_ALL); ini_set("display_errors", 1); " in LocalSettings.php? (without quotes) [20:53:12] 03river * r46284 10/trunk/tools/ts-specs/ext-sources/Makefile.exim: TSexim: build with IPv6 support [20:54:12] 03(NEW) To create a new message displayed in reading mode for article's talk pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17163 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (skropotkine) [20:54:20] ialex, very top ? right after Chura: after done [20:54:54] now lets wait until it wil lstuck again [20:56:13] ok, its stuck, no error [20:56:16] empty page [20:56:23] Chura: first, you need to restore correct db name, user and password in LocalSettings.php [20:56:33] (Can't contact the database server: Access denied for user 'zxc'@'UFR2.webdom.netvision.net.il' (using password: YES) (mysql)) [20:56:34] hehehe i know, i just did :) [20:56:40] yeah :) oops [20:56:40] How come my installation doesn't like the "$wgScriptPath = "/w";" stuff? [20:56:41] fixed [20:57:05] ialex, can u see it now ? u get empty page also ? [20:57:25] Chura: yes [20:57:43] grrrr strange [20:57:57] have any clue ? [20:57:57] 03(mod) The move reason field should be one line only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13627 (10brion) [20:58:07] btw, i really thank u for you help mate [20:59:08] should i add $wgDebugLogFile = "/file" ? [20:59:31] Chura: either ini_set is disabled or it happens before LocalSettings.php [21:00:23] 03nikerabbit * r46285 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/Database.php: * Escape backslashes before normal escaping, to not counteract the effect [21:01:00] ini_set is under my control ? [21:01:25] Chura: it might be disabled for security reasons [21:01:50] its configured by root only ? [21:01:51] *Zexion sighs. [21:01:52] but imho it's disabled since the other error page displays correctly [21:02:14] 03(mod) Linkify the "r12345 comments" string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17128 +comment (10brion) [21:02:15] (so there shouldn't be errors in LocalSettings.php) [21:02:46] but now its working, i didnt touch it [21:02:57] and now not working again :) [21:05:32] ialex, i think i better cancel my hosting there? [21:06:12] 03aaron * r46286 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/Stabilization_body.php: JS fixes [21:06:19] Chura: do you have shell access? :) [21:06:30] i wish :) [21:07:01] Chura: if no, cancel it and find one with if you want to host MediaWiki :P [21:08:39] Chura: and with a good memory_limit ;) [21:08:50] yeah, trying to run MediaWiki on shared hosting is a pain [21:09:00] i even didnt knew there is shell access to shared :) [21:09:16] 03tparscal * r46287 10/trunk/extensions/DataCenter/ (50 files in 6 dirs): Added paging to table and history widgets. Paging is optional, and is not being used where tables are divided by tabs by tense. [21:09:18] oh, ialex, i have memory_limit to 8M [21:09:24] a lot of them have safe_mode on as well, which also causes problems [21:09:27] Chura: too low [21:09:50] and mine is safe_mode also hehehe [21:10:02] Chura: very bad :P [21:10:14] might cause the issue ? [21:10:21] !safemode [21:10:21] --mwbot-- safe_mode is an ill-concieved, broken-by-design setting in PHP that is supposed to make broken scripts safe. It was deprecated in PHP5 and removed in PHP6. MediaWiki can run with safe_mode enabled, but many of the advanced features will not work or need additional configuration (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode for more information. [21:10:30] Chura: a good thing would be at least 100MB for memory_limit [21:10:39] oh [21:10:43] ok, thanks [21:10:46] Chura: with 8MB, it's likely to crash on each request [21:11:33] ialex, ok :) [21:11:53] just last one, how come other sites there (not wikimedia) dont have problems ? [21:12:02] wikimedia request more from the server usually ? [21:12:11] Because they don't use as much memory as MediaWiki [21:12:19] MediaWiki uses a LOT of RAM. [21:13:19] i see [21:13:33] before i leave, is there other wiki like that will work for me ? [21:14:11] cuz as u can see, i'm dont have the skills for it, i need it simple and running [21:18:02] 03(mod) Wikibits patch #9 - force sortorder of a column - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15406 (10mhorvath2161) [21:18:55] siebrand, Nikerabbit: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Internationalisation is in dire need of some livin. it doesn't even have a reference to betawiki, or to any page describing how to localize extensions. [21:19:04] could you add some relevant links? [21:20:03] Duesentrieb_: if you write the example i18n extension which does i18n the right way :) [21:21:26] 03siebrand * r46288 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: article -> page [21:21:35] 03(mod) more "jump to" accessibility links needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13765 +comment (10jidanni) [21:21:50] *Zexion wonders if he can get help? [21:21:51] Duesentrieb_: extensions\examples\FourFileTemplate [21:22:47] 03siebrand * r46289 10/trunk/extensions/examples/FourFileTemplate/MyExtension_body.php: delay message loading in example extension [21:23:03] that doesn't even cover $wgOut->addWikiMsg [21:23:10] or $wgLang->formatNum [21:24:03] or plural, or gender [21:24:07] gotta start somewhere... [21:24:53] 03(mod) more "jump to" accessibility links needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13765 (10jidanni) [21:26:25] is there any way how can recognize if it has been called directly from page or is being transcluded via some template? [21:35:58] Hello? [21:36:52] i'm using the mediawiki api and i'm wondering if there's a quick way (regexp, plain text opt, et c) to strip out all wiki markup from a page? [21:40:36] wy: no. there is no quick and reliable way. [21:40:43] in fact, there is no reliable way at all. [21:41:00] you can get it more or less quick and more or less dirty. [21:41:05] Does anyone here know why short URL code messes up my whole wiki? [21:41:18] !rewriteproblem | Zexion [21:41:18] --mwbot-- Zexion: 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [21:41:45] Zexion: that covers 90% :) [21:41:56] *Zexion doesn't really understand any of that... [21:42:01] Except the first one. [21:43:04] Zexion: you'll probably have to understand all of it before you canset up rewrites. [21:43:15] Can anyone point me to any config options for the built-in RSS feed from MediaWiki? Particularly the recent changes page? I recently upgraded from 1.9.x to 1.13.x and now my RSS parser can no longer read the file for some reason (returns a 302 Found... though works fine on web browsers) [21:43:31] My .htaccess allows all functions... I think. [21:43:36] wy: I have some Python regexes/functions that might help... http://pastebin.com/m568ae349 [21:43:43] I mean, the links work and all. [21:43:48] It's just the CSS breaks. [21:43:57] Links and all else work just fine. [21:43:57] I'm only using that on small fragments of text, not sure how well it'll do on a whole page [21:44:05] Jinxor: 302 should work in any http client. it's not an error. it's a redirect. if you rss reader chokes on it, kill it with fire. [21:44:10] I also expand all the templates first [21:44:43] Zexion: the reason is very likely that you don'ät keep files separated from your virtual path. so the path to your css gets rewritten too. so things fail. [21:44:57] which is what point 4) is about. [21:45:03] well, the RSS parser is a script for mIRC that i've used for a while now--found it on mircscripts.org a while back and adjusted it a lot [21:45:23] Is there a way to fix it? [21:45:45] Jinxor: if it doesn't handle redirects, it's broken. that's all there is to say about it, really. [21:45:45] i'd really hate to lose all that work... i don't know why it's returning 302 as a redirect... and i don't see it returning any data as to *where* it's redirecting [21:45:46] All I'm doing is putting in the scripts in the LocalSettings.php. [21:45:51] Duesentrieb_: thanks. i'm not very familiar with wiki markup, but is it more/less safe to strip out anything in between {{ ... }} to achieve this? [21:46:02] otherwise i'd try to script it to handle redirects myself [21:46:10] wy: no, because they can be nested. [21:46:14] shouldn't it return "302 Found newurl" ? [21:46:30] Jinxor: no. the new url is in the Location header. [21:46:38] not in the response code [21:46:52] hmm... is Content-Range: also a header? [21:46:58] yes. [21:47:04] everything up to the first blank line. [21:47:04] well that's a start, i guess [21:47:07] Duesentrieb_: i'll scan the text the long way and increment a token whenever i see a {{, decrement when i see }}, and only strip out text when the token gets back to 0 [21:47:13] wy: if you're using the API, you can have prop=revisions expand all templates, though that could get messy [21:47:25] wy: yes. that's called "parsing" :) [21:47:45] MrZ-man: hahay es i am already looking to trim down the response [21:47:50] Duesentrieb_: :) [21:47:51] wy: before that, you have to hanlde and . [21:48:11] for the latter, you'll need unique markers and some wayto rescu & put back the text later. [21:48:21] i'd still like it if i could convince the wiki not to redirect in the first place (not sure why it is...) ... but at least now i have an idea of how to make this script work. thanks Duesentrieb [21:48:22] so... thjis is no longer "easy". [21:48:24] well it turns out i'm displaying this in a browser anyway [21:48:47] it's all going into .innerHTML [21:48:52] Jinxor: well, find out what it redirects to, and change your script to use that url directly [21:49:21] 03(mod) Add metainformation to pages with interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1433 (10brion) [21:49:23] Guessing there's no way of fixing it...? [21:49:24] wy: why do you want to strip markup then? just use the html mediawiki generates [21:49:48] Zexion: sure: use the right pathes, get your rewrite rules right. then it will be fixed. [21:50:00] Right paths? [21:50:03] What do you mean? [21:50:29] Duesentrieb_: can i request html content within a jsonp call? [21:50:37] that would be good [21:50:39] yes. [21:50:42] action=render [21:50:53] action=parse if using the API [21:51:11] i see [21:51:11] i'm using action=query [21:51:14] right. action=render is for plain requests [21:51:38] Duesentrieb_: What do you mean "right paths"? [21:51:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Expanding_templates_and_rendering#parse [21:52:20] Zexion: read the instructions for short urls. note how it talks about the path for files, and the cirtual path for pages. [21:53:23] 03brion * r46290 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SkinTemplate.php: [21:53:23] Revert r45343 "(bug 16659) Prettify permalinks. Just use ?oldid=x" for now. [21:53:23] This hasn't been very popular so far; pulling it back pending further discussion (as on bug) [21:53:39] I'm reading it. [21:53:50] And... there's no directory named "wiki" at all. [21:53:54] I have it named "wik" [21:53:55] . [21:54:05] the name doesn't matter, really. [21:54:28] the point is that there are two pathes: one read dir for files and one virtual one for pages. [21:54:31] they must be separate [21:54:39] per convention they are called w and wiki [21:54:54] you can call them bob and john, if you like [21:55:05] Okay, I'm confused now. [21:55:49] read it again, until you are no longer confuised :) [21:55:54] looking at examples helps too. [21:56:07] 03brion * r46291 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/includes/SkinTemplate.php: revert r45343 on branch as well [21:56:27] 03(mod) Prettify permalinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16659 +comment (10brion) [21:57:45] How do you create a "virtual" directory? [21:57:52] Any chance of getting https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16335 committed? [21:58:01] Zexion: you don't. [21:58:18] Zexion: you rewrite from a virtual path to a real directory. [21:58:24] that's what rewrites are for. [21:58:37] they map *some* path to something else. [21:58:48] Do I need that Alias code in the .htaccess? [22:00:16] rewrite or alias. [22:00:31] alias is often not possible in htaccess [22:00:55] basically, both methods map a path do a directory (or, more precisely, a single script with parameters) [22:01:59] I think I did put in the rewrite in it, but still had same effect. [22:02:57] you have to put the *right* rewrite in. and it has to fit your settings in localsettings.php [22:03:07] the easiest thing would be to follow the instructions by the letter [22:03:11] use the same names, etc [22:03:15] Could it be that it's in a subdomain? [22:03:29] I have it in a subdomain so /wiki/ could be valid. [22:04:08] subdomains are fine. [22:04:17] just don't put the files *directly* into the dubdomains dir. [22:04:25] make a subdirectory. called "w". [22:04:25] What files? [22:04:29] mediawiki [22:04:46] your installation of mediawiki. it has files, right? [22:04:51] Yeah? [22:05:00] ... [22:05:12] If it didn't, it wouldn't work. [22:05:37] indeed. [22:06:16] So, make a sub-directory named 'w' and move *all* the files into there? [22:07:39] yep. [22:07:57] and make sure your wgScriptPath reflects that change. [22:08:20] then you set up the rewrite. and make sure wgActivePath reflects that change [22:08:50] Now it 500'd [22:08:51] . [22:09:45] Zexion: check your webserver error log? [22:10:02] I don't run the server. [22:10:04] a 500 probably means you screwed up the .htaccess. [22:10:06] I'm on a webhost. [22:10:08] to check, simply rename it [22:10:26] Zexion: you should have access to the error log anyway. if the webhost is decent. [22:10:34] (not all are) [22:11:01] How do I access the log? [22:12:17] *chuck wonders how we would possibly know [22:12:24] have you tried looking at your configuration panel? [22:12:26] have you got a control panel? [22:12:27] Zexion: ask your hoster [22:12:44] Kay... [22:12:47] but as i said: just move the .htaccess. if it works then, then you know where the problem is. [22:12:53] 'Nother problem arose. [22:13:13] When I go to the subdomain to the wiki, it doesn't redirect. [22:13:28] Just shows "Index of '/'" and 'w'. [22:13:36] yes. why would it redirect? [22:13:54] to have it redirect, you need an entry for that in your .htaccess [22:13:59] which you just disabled. [22:14:11] so, go to w/index.php in your subdomain [22:14:18] see a wiki page there? [22:15:05] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46068#c1428 <- who wants to poke this one quick? [22:15:26] Oyy.. [22:16:10] brion: heh :P [22:16:18] After putting in the rewrite, it brings back the 500. [22:17:28] brion: would using create_function work for that? [22:17:41] I've copied a birth and death time template that was last modified in march 2008 from wikipedia to my mediawiki 1.13.3 and the dates and times show up wrong on the page when I use it, is it just running a different version or could something else be wrong? :P [22:18:07] Zexion: so you either screwed up the symntax, you you have no rewrite engine installed, or you are not allowed to use rewrites. [22:18:10] aks you web host [22:18:39] I'm allowed to use rewrites. [22:18:51] I think. [22:19:53] It just doesn't like the code. [22:20:13] Or the CSS isn't being declared. [22:22:01] greetings all, can someone give me a hand with an Auth plugin? [22:22:45] no idea then? well is it something that could conceivably be caused by not running 1.14 alpha? :P [22:24:30] slux: parserfunctions [22:24:39] chuck: create_function is punishable by torture, then death [22:25:12] brion: don't FixedImage uses it? :) [22:25:13] *AaronSchulz watches judge judy [22:25:20] b-b-b-but making a new function is ugly :P [22:25:42] Duesentrieb_: What's the correct rewrite rules? [22:25:49] !cleanurl [22:25:49] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "cleanurl". [22:25:51] The ones in the guide aren't working. [22:25:52] @clean [22:25:56] nope [22:25:58] *chuck fails [22:26:02] the one given in the manual [22:26:12] On MW's site? [22:26:13] !shorturl | chuck [22:26:13] --mwbot-- chuck: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [22:26:20] Zexion: yes. [22:26:21] lol :P thanks [22:26:39] Prodego: Yeah I'll guess I'll try updating it in case I have a bad copy... thanks [22:26:45] As I've said, they do nothing. [22:26:54] The CSS is still gone. [22:26:56] slux: no, I mean did you install parserfunctions [22:26:57] !rewriteproblems [22:26:57] --mwbot-- 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. [22:27:11] slux: that is the usual cause of template problems [22:27:16] it is an extention [22:27:25] Prodego: yes I did, the problem is that the dates are wrong, not that they don't show up :P [22:27:38] oh the dates are wrong, ok [22:27:43] hokay, so AuthPlugin.php has the setPassword method which is what i need to use to change a password by call from a remote system. however the method requires not only the new password, but also an instance of a User object. All good, only problem is i cannot find a way to retrieve the User object I need by providing a username. [22:27:50] I give a date to the template and it formats it to be an entirely different date [22:28:16] slux: is it a public site? [22:28:30] Prodego: yeah [22:28:41] do you have a link? [22:28:45] I could take a look [22:29:49] It's in finnish so may complicate a bit, but you can see it on that page for example: http://www.murhawiki.com/Aili_Konttinen [22:30:42] 03werdna * r46292 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewEdit.php: Don't save duplicate revisions... [22:30:55] 03(NEW) SVG text is rendered very poorly on En.wikipedia, compared to Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17164 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lenski) [22:31:03] 03werdna * r46293 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Bold and apply a subtle background colour to the changed fields in Abuse Filter history -- will make things much easier to track. [22:31:31] Something tells me that my problem is a hopeless cause. [22:31:47] 03(mod) Add Hungarian localization for the servers unavailable error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13502 +shell; +comment (10sam) [22:32:03] Simetrical: can you explain to me the comments on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46077 ? i'm more confused after reading them than from looking at the code :D [22:32:05] NEIU: User::newFromName( 'Username' ) [22:32:10] 03werdna * r46294 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/db_patches/patch-afh_changed_fields.sql: DB patch for schema change in previous revision. [22:32:28] Should I just give up on this? [22:32:37] No one seems to know how to help me. [22:33:37] And, admittedly, it's getting to be very frustrating. [22:33:48] Zexion: What's the problem again? Your CSS and so on aren't working after you set up clean URLs? [22:33:48] *sigh* how did I miss that, I looked through the User class too. been a long day [22:34:04] thanks werdnum [22:34:12] werdnum: Yes. [22:34:23] Zexion: Okay, is your wiki public? [22:34:24] And I can't figure out how to fix it. [22:34:27] Yes. [22:34:32] Can I have the URL? [22:34:43] http://wik.nxiii.co.cc/ [22:34:47] And can you tell me what your rewrite setup is? [22:35:03] Like, where is index.php? What article path are you trying to use? [22:35:17] index.php is in /wik. [22:35:25] And... what do you mean 'article path'? [22:35:59] I figured out your article path is /wiki/ [22:36:06] Ah. [22:36:08] Okay, yeah. [22:36:14] Can you paste your rewrite rules, please? [22:36:16] in a [22:36:17] !pastebin [22:36:17] --mwbot-- Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. Instead please use a pastebin such as and post a link to your paste in the channel. [22:36:47] Simetrical: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46078#c1431 [22:37:00] They're just the ones in the manual. [22:37:12] From where? [22:37:33] I think I know roughly what the problem is. [22:37:50] And I think you've made a slight mistake -- but I won't know for sure until you paste me the exact rewrite rules you're using. [22:38:24] http://mediawiki.pastey.net/107065 [22:38:47] 03(FIXED) Wiki for Wikimedia UK - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16996 +comment (10rhalsell) [22:39:28] 03(mod) Add Hungarian localization for the servers unavailable error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13502 +comment (10bdanee88) [22:39:57] Zexion: Can you comment out the last one and restart apache? [22:40:21] I don't run the server. [22:40:40] werdnum: changes to htaccess don't need a restart [22:40:50] Ah, well could you comment out the last one :) [22:40:56] Done. [22:41:09] hmm [22:41:21] something is redirecting anything that isn't /wiki/Something to /w/index.php [22:41:27] That's your problem [22:41:36] ah crap [22:41:42] apaches are starting to use up cpu and memory [22:41:44] again [22:41:48] Is there anything you know of that might be doing that? [22:41:55] Some kind of redirect rule you set up, or something? [22:42:15] Iunno. [22:43:41] Are those the only rewrite rules you're using? [22:43:50] Yes, for MW. [22:43:57] Only other one is for WordPress. [22:44:21] Well, I can take a look at your entire rewrite rule setup if you like [22:44:52] You mean my whole .htaccess? [22:45:01] Yeah [22:45:07] Assuming there's nothing private in there. [22:45:22] Nah. [22:45:49] http://mediawiki.pastey.net/107066 [22:46:27] hi guys, i'm wondering is there a way to limit the size of an article by the amount of characters? [22:46:56] !wg MaxArticleSize [22:46:56] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgMaxArticleSize [22:47:17] nice [22:47:23] thankyou you totally rock [22:47:25] :) [22:47:29] np :) [22:47:40] ah that is limit by kb [22:47:56] i'm looking to limit via number of characters [22:47:56] hm [22:48:00] Zexion: Hmm, can you try commenting out the wordpress stuff for a few minutes? [22:48:19] matttai: there is no char limit AFAIK [22:48:26] just a size limit [22:48:29] Zexion: I think that wordpress stuff may be causing the issue. [22:48:40] RewriteRule . /index.php [L] [22:48:51] That rewrite rule rewrites every URL to /index.php [22:48:56] assuming the file doesn't exist. [22:49:25] hmm thats a bummer. [22:49:42] trying to fit articles into a fixed sized box atm [22:50:27] Yet... if that's commented out, the whole wiki goes 404. [22:50:43] 04(REOPENED) Users custom CSS and JS not linked from Special:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2314 +comment (10brion) [22:50:58] Zexion: Even going to /wik/index.php?title=Foo ? [22:51:23] Apparently so. [22:51:35] Are you sure that that file exists? [22:51:41] Huh... weird. [22:51:50] It works when done through the root. [22:51:58] 04(REOPENED) Parameters are not checked for plausibility before log entry is generated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14423 +comment (10brion) [22:51:59] nxiii.co.cc/wik/ [22:52:05] http://wik.nxiii.co.cc/index.php?title=Foo [22:52:11] That works. [22:52:34] I think you accidentally put your files in the root, rather than in the /wik directory. [22:52:50] No, I put them all in /wik. [22:53:09] Could it be the subdomain? [22:53:37] Empirical evidence disagrees. I expect that your hosting setup assumes .nxii.co.cc can be found at ~/public_html// [22:53:44] It's rewriting subdomains to paths :) [22:53:51] so you really need to put your files in /wik/wik :) [22:55:27] peopl,e donÄt seem to understand that the directory the subdomain points to *is* the document root of that subdomain, per definition... [22:55:35] "but it's a subdir of my webspace..." [22:55:54] Okay, done. [22:56:15] Should I add in an index.php file with a redirect? [22:56:41] If you like, but that last rewrite rule I had you comment out at the start will do that for you. [22:57:14] Okay, now it came up as a 404. [22:58:00] 03brion * r46295 10/trunk/extensions/OpenSearchXml/ApiOpenSearchXml.php: [22:58:00] Reverting r46131 "OpenSearchXml extension: (bug 17142) action=opensearch shouldn't resolve redirects in XML mode" [22:58:00] Major regression in attractiveness and usability; the feature that was removed was not a bug. [22:58:22] 03(mod) action=opensearch&format=xml resolves redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17142 +comment (10brion) [22:59:54] 04(REOPENED) Second query of ApiQueryBackLinks filesorts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16483 +comment (10brion) [23:01:55] 03(NEW) Show interlanguage sidebar links of MediaWiki: Watchlist-details on watchlists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17165 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (Wiki.Melancholie) [23:03:03] 04(REOPENED) Get value of $wgLegalTitleChars through the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17024 +comment (10brion) [23:05:50] ialex: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46145#c1445 :) [23:07:02] werdnum: It's not working. [23:07:47] 04(REOPENED) Pristine revisions should override quality revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17157 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [23:09:02] Anyone know a windows text editor that wont screw over non english characters? [23:09:15] vim [23:09:18] vim [23:09:39] vim [23:11:26] ya [23:11:28] *ta [23:11:41] anyone know why the extension whosonlineajax doesn't show up anywhere on the page even though install seems to have gone fine [23:12:35] I don't see why MediaWiki hates me so much... [23:15:09] 03(NEW) to change the name of Pashto wikipedia to its transcription - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17166 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (anobleboy) [23:16:06] werdnum: PM? [23:16:51] Any chance someone can commit https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16335 ? [23:17:09] 04(REOPENED) Remove [Mark as patrolled] link for already patrolled revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17104 +comment (10brion) [23:18:48] This crap is confusing. [23:18:51] 03sergeychernyshev * r46296 10/trunk/extensions/Widgets/ (. Makefile Widgets.php compiled_templates/): Migrating code for [[Extension:Widgets]] from Google Code repository (http://mediawiki-widgets.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/) [23:19:22] 03(mod) Add Hungarian localization for the servers unavailable error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13502 (10sam) [23:19:33] 03(mod) Add Hungarian localization for the servers unavailable error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13502 +patch (10sam) [23:20:01] 04(REOPENED) mw-redirect links in special:contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17106 +comment (10brion) [23:21:17] Kay, now my only means of support has disappeared. [23:21:37] 03dale * r46297 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/maintenance/ (metavid2mvWiki.inc.php video_ocr_thumb_insert.php): capture software infrastructure updates. [23:21:43] 04(REOPENED) Sort user list according to account creation time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3301 +comment (10brion) [23:23:19] 03(mod) Sort user list according to account creation time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3301 (10brion) [23:23:47] 03siebrand * r46298 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Follow up to r46153 per http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46153#code-comments: Note change in RELEASE-NOTES. [23:23:53] 03(mod) Get value of $wgLegalTitleChars through the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17024 (10sam) [23:25:18] 03(mod) Add Hungarian localization for the servers unavailable error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13502 +comment (10bdanee88) [23:26:14] 03sergeychernyshev * r46299 10/trunk/extensions/Widgets/Makefile: Fixing SVN paths for tagging a release using 'make release v=x.x.x' [23:28:15] 03tparscal * r46300 10/trunk/extensions/DataCenter/ (21 files in 7 dirs): Added group-based permissions for viewing, exporting, changing and removing information. [23:29:26] I shall BRB. [23:29:30] 03(mod) Add Hungarian localization for the servers unavailable error message - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13502 (10bdanee88) [23:31:48] brion: We can now localise AbuseFilter messages :D [23:32:25] yay [23:32:31] At least, once the commit comes through. [23:32:47] 03werdna * r46301 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (4 files): Localise Abuse Filter exceptions. [23:32:53] 03siebrand * r46302 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (12 files): Localisation updates for core messages from Betawiki (2009-01-26 23:29 UTC) [23:33:45] what was the link showing what code brion has and has not reviewed? [23:34:38] r46301 [23:34:39] oops [23:34:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46301 [23:35:14] 03tparscal * r46303 10/trunk/extensions/DataCenter/DataCenter.i18n.php: Fixed language issue with group names. [23:35:51] 03(mod) Add Hungarian localization for the servers unavailable error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13502 (10sam) [23:35:54] is there any way how can recognize if it has been called directly from page or is being transcluded via some template? [23:37:08] 03(mod) Add Hungarian localization for the servers unavailable error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13502 +comment (10sam) [23:37:09] hey TrevorParscal [23:37:29] hi [23:37:36] 03siebrand * r46304 10/trunk/extensions/ (56 files in 47 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki (2009-01-26 23:29 UTC) [23:44:56] 04(REOPENED) Wiki for Wikimedia UK - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16996 +comment (10mediawiki) [23:46:14] 03ashley * r46305 10/trunk/extensions/timeline/Timeline.php: tweak for r46150 per Brion's comment on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46150#c1446 [23:46:33] 03(NEW) Enable Import on UK Wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17167 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (sam) [23:47:54] 03(FIXED) Wiki for Wikimedia UK - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16996 +comment (10sam) [23:47:56] 03(mod) Enable Import on UK Wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17167 (10sam) [23:50:34] 03(mod) Enable Import on UK Wikimedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17167 (10cbrown1023) [23:50:35] 03(mod) Wiki for Wikimedia UK - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16996 (10cbrown1023) [23:58:44] 04(REOPENED) Excluding specific categories from Special:UnusedCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17145 +comment (10brion)