[00:01:00] 03(mod) Allow users to delete their own pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17309 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:03:45] Where is ^demon... [00:04:01] *groundhogday waves [00:04:11] Ah, there you are. [00:04:22] Both Splarka and I both tried to find the dupe. [00:04:26] Couldn't be found. [00:04:34] But I don't agree with your suggestion for WONTFIX. [00:04:48] Extension, maybe, but not WONTFIX. [00:05:07] Should be limited to pre-defined namespaces, though. You don't want someone unilaterally trying to revoke all of their redirect creations or something. [00:06:48] 03demon * r46748 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: (bug 17330) Fix minor warning if $titles is null, which it can be. [00:07:02] 03(FIXED) function array_pop in Title.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17330 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:07:11] Meh. Fine, I'll go comment on the bug. [00:07:14] tomaszf: if I hear that phrase one more time... [00:07:26] make it stop ... [00:07:43] Aren't there some problems with the phone sys- *BEEP* *BEEP* *BEEP* [00:07:56] *tomaszf thinks about turning the phone system off for a second [00:08:20] He's getting there... [00:08:20] 03(NEW) "External" links within wiki should be handled separately (and not have icon) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17331 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (matthew.britton) [00:08:20] Marybelle: Fwiw, I am convinced I've seen said bug before. [00:08:29] groundhogday: Prove it. :P [00:08:31] CIA-45 seems to be sad at the moment: 29.2% lines contained sad faces. :( [00:08:32] CIA-53 is also a sad person, crying 29.1% of the time. [00:08:34] it is one of those features... [00:08:48] that you can't believe was never a bugzilla bug, but the same goes for everyone else who wanted it [00:08:53] so it never actually got submitted [00:09:19] Splarka: It's because BZ has a very cool search. Unless you don't know the *exact* phrasing of what you're looking for. [00:09:55] ... [00:10:15] 03(mod) Allow users to delete their own pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17309 (10public) [00:10:17] it is because bug submitters are, in general, idiots, and use antidescriptive summaries [00:10:53] like ^ that might have been "possiblity for synergetic autohuffination of monoauthorifieds" [00:10:54] "Mediawiki is broken" [00:11:08] or "feature" [00:12:09] *Splarka still thinks the "enter new bug" dab page needs a list of the top 10 most duped (closed OR opened) and top 10 most commented (open) bugs [00:12:30] so like "make search box autofocused" won't keep being opened... [00:12:57] {{sofixit}}? [00:12:59] and this one: "User should be able to see the list of his deleted contributions" [00:13:51] I'm convinced there's more dupes in there than we've marked. [00:13:52] Splarka: they have something like this on the original bugzilla.mozilla.org, search before file [00:13:58] Maybe have "bug dupe day" [00:14:12] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14327 <-- this is close to 'allow users to delete their own pages' [00:14:16] this is some weeeeeird bug though [00:14:29] I remember that one. [00:14:30] and check out the descriptive name [00:14:45] (and it doesn't actually request possiblity for delete, but it is implied a bit) [00:15:02] I love the bugs that have like N features listed in 1 bug. [00:15:08] It would be great if A and B and C.... [00:15:12] ah, Milosh [00:15:14] 03werdna * r46749 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: Fix double-prefixing. [00:15:16] and as MZM mentioned: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3843 treat blank pages as 'deleted' [00:15:17] Naturally, A, B and C are unrelated. [00:16:15] groundhogday: Eh? I filed one of those a month ago, but I used MW.org for the list of features wanted... [00:16:28] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Regex-based_blacklist :P [00:17:58] Wtf? I think the significant other wasn't joking when he said "if you don't get ready to go, I'm going to get dinner without you." [00:18:01] aaaaaaaaaha [00:18:02] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14325 [00:18:06] * Delete if I am the only author of the article. [00:18:26] but that is an "I want A, B, C, D, and E, and maybe F, and a bit of G, and H on Sundays" [00:18:39] not really dupe-to-able [00:18:56] * Delete if the page is under my namespace. [00:18:56] * Undelete if I deleted it. [00:19:00] * Protect/unprotect if the page is under my namespace. [00:19:04] sun/moon/stars [00:19:48] *werdnum didn't know ^demon was gay. [00:20:02] *werdnum shrugs, files away. [00:20:17] he saw his shadow, 6 more months of showtunes [00:20:30] ?? [00:20:39] Splarka: no bug for "treat vandalised pages as hidden"? [00:20:53] saper: sounds like flaggedrevs [00:21:13] werd: he was "groundhogday" above^ [00:21:37] flaggedrevs is about "display false, obsolete content for as long as possible" [00:22:03] well, depending on implementation, ideall it is "show only verified content by default" [00:22:04] ^ideally [00:22:14] werd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day [00:22:36] so it would not show vandalism, vandalism would then be hidden... [00:22:57] and since you can't quantify vandalism in a regex, that means you have to go by some human judgement [00:23:25] 00:21 < Splarka> werd: he was "groundhogday" above^ [00:23:27] I know. [00:24:43] saw his shadow, 6 more weeks... [00:24:46] must be an American thing [00:26:23] 03dale * r46750 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/ (ED_ParserFunctions.php ExternalData.sql README): extension-specific variable names [00:31:04] hmm [00:31:29] "bug dupe day", would seperately-closed ancient identical bugs be duped? [00:32:06] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2352 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9893 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4075 [00:33:11] Splarka, could do, keeps a trail of whats what [00:36:19] 03(mod) Allow users to delete their own pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17309 (10herd) [00:37:00] 03tparscal * r46751 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/ (6 files): Lots of formatting changes in the source code. Moved some things in Draft to Drafts. Cleaned up JavaScript code a ton! Added new message durring saving. [00:41:41] 03(mod) Allow users to delete their own pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17309 +comment (10techman224) [00:47:42] IDoes anyone know how to get mediaWiki to not exaust the allowed memory size? [00:47:59] give it a bigger one? [00:48:16] Yes, I have tried, but it isn't helping [00:48:31] Unless there is a setting in mediawiki configs? [00:48:52] like what? $wgGoldfishMode ? (joke) [00:50:40] Hmm. Well I have increased php settings to inmmense values, but it isn't helping [00:50:51] And I'm trying to import a XML dump [00:58:26] if it's a large file using the webinterface is usually a no-go [00:59:18] Yeah, I'm trying to run mwdumper now, but ubuntu isn't cooperating... [01:55:00] could someone be able to tell me how this site is done using mediawiki [01:55:15] http://www.themoviedb.org/movie [01:57:02] 03(mod) "What links here" fails to indicate a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17270 (10hardy) [01:57:25] Where is that old coding principle about only coding what you need? [01:58:50] DGMurdockIII: Doesn't look like MediaWiki to me. [01:59:06] Marybelle, http://c2.com/xp/YouArentGonnaNeedIt.html [01:59:25] Gracias. :-) [02:00:39] themoviedb.org is a free and openly editable �wiki� style database for movies and cast data. [02:01:06] There are lots of different types of wiki software. [02:01:12] MediaWiki is one brand of wiki software. [02:01:18] That site is not using MediaWiki. [02:04:08] 03(NEW) quote mark unprocessed in DatabasePostgres.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17332 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (dwserver2) [02:04:50] what do you think it is using [02:05:54] Looks like a custom program. [02:06:05] http://api.themoviedb.org/2.0/docs/ [02:07:03] 03tstarling * r46752 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/storage/trackBlobs.php: [02:07:03] * Support for the "blobs table" LB config parameter [02:07:03] * Don't redefine the constructor [02:07:07] 03(mod) Change no.wikipedia.org to nb.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 +comment (10str805) [02:08:29] 03(mod) Allow users to delete their own pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17309 (10public) [02:12:12] yeah they have a api for media players [02:12:29] or media center apps to pull the info from the site [02:16:09] Hey, how's abuse filter doing [02:27:29] 03(FIXED) Automatic category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3311 +comment (10PhiLiP.NPC) [02:33:16] is there any way to export templates from a wiki? [02:33:47] Or, at least, select all of them to export? [02:36:30] mPerry, I have managed to transfer all the articles over. [02:36:54] Wrong chat... [02:49:04] 03(FIXED) suppressredirect right for Wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14998 +comment (10tstarling) [03:00:42] Sup party people! [03:03:51] <^demon> Is there any reason the SpamBlacklist still has 1.4 compatibility code built in? [03:18:23] 03demon * r46753 10/trunk/extensions/ (APC/SpecialAPC.php ExternalData/ED_ParserFunctions.php): Use Http::get() here, rather than file_get_contents. That way we can use cURL when available, and only fall back to file_get_contents if need be :) [03:18:32] ^demon: I am guessing so it will be compatible with 1.4 [03:20:42] <^demon> I figured that much. [03:22:33] Does anyone know why I get lots of Fatal Erreor messages in regards to the exhaustion of memory? [03:23:47] Mike_lifeguard: 'bout to file the bug about move log showing up on &action=edit... [03:24:55] I hope this isn't too off topic, I finally got my MW install working smoothly. I setup a non-rules wiki dedicated to complete stupidity. www.retardbox.com [03:25:08] No real moderation or purpose >.< [03:26:51] <^demon> JimBastard: Something's not right. Links on Special:Version aren't rendering properly. [03:26:52] <^demon> http://www.retardbox.com/Special:Version [03:27:21] <^demon> Something's breaking the wikicode :) [03:27:23] ?!? ill check now, thanks [03:27:56] demon, are you reffering to the external links back to mediawiki.org ? [03:28:11] for security reasons i disabled all external linking [03:28:28] for security reasons? [03:28:36] Marybelle: thanks [03:28:45] BTW, are you in #wikimedia-admin ? [03:29:00] <^demon> o.O [03:29:15] sup? [03:29:19] Mike_lifeguard: I idled in there at some point. It's the most boring channel ever... [03:29:26] i didn't want people abusing the wiki [03:29:29] its setup to get abused [03:29:38] linking to other sites is just asking for trouble [03:29:53] OK, well I'm planning to clean out the access list and invexes. Someone mentioned you might have an opinion about that...? [03:31:05] <^demon> What's #wikimedia-admin? [03:31:15] <^demon> Just #wikipedia-en-admins + two others? [03:31:24] 03(NEW) simplewiki is slow to respond to the watchlist request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17333 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (scream) [03:31:42] Mike_lifeguard: Err.. yeah, don't. :P [03:31:59] Any particular reason? [03:32:24] There's no reason to and you usually just end up pissing people off needlessly. [03:32:38] 03(mod) simplewiki is slow to respond to the watchlist request - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17333 +comment (10innocentkiller) [03:33:16] OK, well I'll step on eggshells then. [03:33:37] Mike_lifeguard: To what end? [03:36:10] *Marybelle sets the WONTFIX timer. [03:36:15] 03(NEW) Move log should show up when creating a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17334 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (public) [03:39:24] I think the thing to do is have a sort of message-only magic word for showing various log snippits [03:39:37] [03:41:46] <^demon> Marybelle: Why not fix bugs instead of making new ones :) [03:42:22] Perhaps I'll file a few patches. [03:42:24] Oh wait, they'll just sit with the 140 other ones in Bugzilla. [03:45:39] oops got banned from another irc server [03:45:44] >.< [03:46:44] <^demon> Marybelle: 177 with the patch keyword :) [03:47:11] :X [03:48:41] and probably a bunch more without [03:49:31] <^demon> I was trying to find a search that looks for "bugs with attachments" [03:49:45] <^demon> I don't care what's *in* the attachments....just if it has one. [03:54:12] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&c [03:54:13] oops [03:54:18] didn't know that url was so long :-/ [03:54:29] trim out the unused fields [03:54:37] <^demon> Bugzilla thinks its fun to pass all fields via URL :p [03:54:39] actually, that'd be a nice bugzilla feature [03:54:47] http://tinyurl.com/lolbugs [03:55:01] on form submit, it should 302 you to the URL with all blank fields removed (the ones with no affect when they're blank) [03:55:26] should be all bugs with attachments w/o patches keyword [03:56:56] +lazy ? [04:00:04] ^demon: Got time for a quick commit? (I promise.) [04:00:42] <^demon> I'll peek at it. [04:01:01] Hmm. Perhaps wikitech is using an old version of the extension, but ... [04:01:12] http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Special:Version LogEntry links to the wrong place here. [04:02:40] why are edits via api not possible with the sul cookie? [04:02:43] <^demon> Must be a belated version. Trunk says its right. [04:03:20] K. Thanks for looking. :-) [04:03:41] <^demon> FIXED! [04:06:18] 03(mod) Nowiki tags and tilde signatures in templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93 +comment (10innocentkiller) [04:24:11] 03(NEW) edit-module does't work with centralauth-cookie - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17335 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (bugreporter) [04:34:04] TimStarling: mmm, Oreo's seem to taste better a little warm. I have to leave them on my computer brain more often... [04:39:02] AaronSchulz: you have multiple brains? [04:46:51] 03(mod) Message handling in parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17329 +need-review +patch (10raimond.spekking) [04:57:31] 03werdna * r46754 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite_body.php: Cache cite output by contents. That way, changes that don't affect Cite references won't cause a re-parsing of Cite, which is a big CPU hog on Wikimedia. [04:57:52] 03werdna * r46755 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/Cite_body.php: Fix profiling mistake. [04:58:15] 03werdna * r46756 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [04:58:15] Re-implementation of r46725 (caching of Cite output). [04:58:15] This time, I've written a Parser method called serialiseHalfParsedText, which, as the name implies, grabs some half-parsed text, and fixes up all of the strip [04:58:15] markers, and link comments, and makes it safe to import some other time with unserialiseHalfParsedText. I tested it by live-hacking the cache key to be a constant, [04:58:17] and then putting on a completely different page, where it worked perfectly. [04:58:25] oops. [04:58:34] I've re-applied the intermediate two revisions. [04:58:38] *werdnum curses git. [05:25:31] Is there a way to mass add images to a wiki? [05:30:12] Hello I am upgrading from 1.10 to 1.13.3 and I am doing the schema update, and the rev_id update has been going for a long long time [05:30:24] in fact, I am at ...doing rev_id from 1259437967 to 1259438166 [05:30:48] when I select count(*) from revision I get 910066 [05:31:18] I mean, I have a lot of pages and a lot of revisions but I dont understand how the rev_id could be so high [05:31:52] porter1: see the script in maintenance/importImages.php [05:33:34] Raymond__' thanks. [05:35:14] 03(mod) rollback link for a page move should revert the move - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4433 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [05:35:15] 14(DUP) Make pagemoves easier to revert - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6984 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [05:37:21] 14(DUP) Move log should show up when creating a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17334 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [05:37:24] 03(mod) Show move log when viewing/creating a deleted page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16950 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [05:53:38] if anyone is interested, seeing how you have a CIA bot here... [05:53:51] I just finished writing this up a couple days ago: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CIAnotify [05:55:42] works wonderfully so far, examples at http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag [05:59:13] what does it mean 'change' notifications? [05:59:16] like recent changes? [06:01:19] *werdnum eyes Mike_lifeguard warily [06:01:29] OverlordQ: sure, just like how CIA-60 reports source code changes live [06:01:47] this extension adds in proper change notification for wiki edits too [06:02:03] werdnum: you're a wise man :| [06:02:16] brlcad: why not use the already built-in system? [06:02:27] besides wanting to use CIA [06:02:37] exactly that [06:02:51] Mike_lifeguard: :) [06:02:59] Mike_lifeguard: You'll notice I'm in #central on irc.wikimedia [06:03:00] there is already a CIA bot and a massive infrastructure behind it for tracking stats [06:03:15] :OOOOOO [06:03:17] \o/ [06:04:17] does it look parseable? [06:04:27] yeah, just gotta install some perl modules [06:04:30] getting there. [06:05:10] whatever floats your boat I guess [06:06:44] and indeed it does (and it has floated at least a couple other project's boat already too) [06:07:45] more expressive than the built-in and much easier to set up [06:11:36] *shrug* [06:12:10] CIA-60: that's pretty nifty, actually. [06:12:42] erm, brlcad that's pretty nifty [06:13:09] werdnum: thanks, feedback welcome if you happen to put it to use somewhere [06:13:48] cool :) [06:15:52] hello [06:15:53] A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "FRCacheUpdate::doUpdate". MySQL returned error "1267: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_bin,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '=' (127.0.0.1)". [06:16:07] Oh no! [06:16:13] what does it mean? [06:17:49] You're using a mix of latin and utf8 with implicit and coercible, which mysql doesn't like [06:19:17] uaa, you will need to correct the table to have matching collations [06:20:54] Or, since this appears to be a mySQL bug, attempt to update your mySQL databases [06:41:09] porter1: how did you install the flaggedrevs tables? [06:42:05] *uaa [06:42:08] opps [06:44:39] hello [06:44:49] I didn't [06:44:59] it's on ar.linux.yourwiki.net [06:45:07] I hope some one helps them [06:45:15] #yourwiki.net [06:46:14] sorry [06:46:17] #yourwiki [07:02:59] 03(mod) Problems with German Umlauts on OTRS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17328 (10tstarling) [07:03:41] Hello Party People! [07:20:57] 03aaron * r46757 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Take on cache query updates to updateSpecialPages [07:21:30] Hi! Does anyone experience tag braces omitting when xml dump was restored with 1.14 rc1? [07:22:16] < > not being converted properly and noinclude sections are executed (templates report loop) [07:45:58] QuestPC: if by "not converted properly" you mean removed, then yes [07:46:23] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16554 [07:48:15] hi room [07:48:26] anybody good with Extenstion:Intersection ?? [07:48:27] 03(mod) Implement the Interlanguage extension in Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15607 +comment (10federicoleva) [07:50:23] anybody good with Extenstion:Intersection ?? [07:54:05] 03(FIXED) Problems with German Umlauts on OTRS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17328 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10tstarling) [08:00:53] this is why i don't like lilypond: http://rafb.net/p/J11BKI98.html [08:00:59] a two-line tune and it needs 50 lines of markup [08:11:47] TimStarling does my reply seem reasonable to you ? [08:12:24] Hi. [08:21:13] hi [08:21:50] hi qwe1 [08:22:39] is there anybody alive? [08:23:01] no [08:23:05] we all died [08:23:06] no [08:23:14] *BlueNight know [08:23:57] anybody good with Extension:Intersection,? [08:24:33] !ask [08:24:33] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [08:25:28] werdnum: boo! [08:25:34] eep! [08:25:38] *werdnum hides. [08:25:47] I've installed Extension:Intersection to gather list of pages from various categories on a single page using DynamicPageList script but when I try to save page, sometime, it gives me a white page, some time error page and sometimes its saved but nothing appears [08:26:24] AaronSchulz: how goes? [08:26:46] !boo ? [08:26:46] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "boo". You might try: !css !interwiki !javascript !js !multiplewiki !wptemplates [08:26:50] headachy [08:27:29] !fire [08:27:29] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "fire". You might try: !ops !refresh !worstcase [08:27:52] What happens if I use "!_ops"? [08:28:02] This is not encyclopedia [08:28:13] AaronSchulz: :( why? [08:28:15] try it [08:28:33] I fear that this will ping every single op [08:29:49] !lazy | werdnum [08:29:49] --mwbot-- werdnum: Don't rely on the bot answers too much, I am not always the best answer to every question. And don't immediately reach for the bot to answer a question, without at least checking the recent channel history to see if someone already botted them. Also, if someone says "can anyone help me", check that they haven't already stated the question and been told not to repeat themselves (reducing them to ask "can anyone help me?"). [08:30:29] the bot is back? [08:30:33] !bonghits [08:30:33] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "bonghits". [08:30:38] ^ that last one is annoying, someone comes in, asks a question, asks it a second time, is told not to repeat themselves, asks "can I get help with my problem?", !ask 'd, and then told to repeat themselves [08:30:38] :-( [08:31:24] Fire: long time no see [08:31:37] Hey splarka :-) Yep. [08:31:41] and yah, that would, that pisses off some of them [08:31:44] !slap Splarka [08:31:44] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "slap". [08:31:50] but it might be funny to do that to domas [08:31:54] he'd come here, and kick you from the channel [08:32:00] and then you could deop him permanently [08:32:19] (hint: suck up to Fire, he has full access levels on #mediawiki) [08:32:26] Sup splarka [08:32:26] teehee [08:32:32] \o/ [08:32:34] oofa [08:32:38] *facepalm* [08:32:55] I don't know about you but I found this in the dictionary : [08:32:57] Bastard (old-fashioned, disapproving) a person whose parents were not married to each other when he or she was born [08:33:05] Did I tell you guys I setup a wiki @ SexCriminalDatabase.com ? I've been pranking my friends all day. [08:33:06] I've installed Extension:Intersection to gather list of pages from various categories on a single page using DynamicPageList script but when I try to save page, sometime, it gives me a white page, some time error page and sometimes its saved but nothing appears [08:33:19] why sone one would say that about him self ??!! [08:33:24] *sigh* [08:33:27] hehe, Splarka takes kicks seriously! [08:33:27] JimBastard: Change your nick. [08:33:30] ? [08:33:34] Splarka: would it be better, if I removed people from channels? :) [08:33:46] this is registered on freenode [08:33:52] www.jimbastard.com [08:33:56] domas: Why did you do that? :-( [08:34:05] relax :) [08:34:29] Fire: it is long philosophic discussion, to answer that question :) [08:34:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#Extension:Intersection [08:34:57] domas: You are mean. [08:35:27] domas: http://www.crimereports.com/map?search=OH,44118 [08:35:37] Fire: to prove that, too! [08:35:39] my home town is so nice :) [08:35:54] I'll have to walk out at night more next time I'm back [08:36:42] Fire: freenode is strange, when I put on +m on a channel, people think I made a mistake. if I kick someone once a year, they talk about it for a year [08:37:06] domas: Random decisions and actions are always controversial. [08:38:40] domas: then freenode is great - I remember extremly rudeness of efnet IRC about 10 years ago. maybe I was visiting wrong channels back then. [08:38:50] !dpl [08:38:50] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [08:39:01] domas: And controversion causes people to dischuss. [08:39:04] discuss* [08:39:12] freenode is the one place where i have to behave or else i cant get information [08:39:18] :-( [08:40:31] How awful [08:41:03] moin [08:41:56] good morning [08:46:20] werdnum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8HW5agFwUY ahhhh [08:49:03] *werdnum is busy watching other video. [08:53:19] At the first sight it seems that XML parser of php 5.2.8 has stripped down < > from noinclude instead to replace then with . (I've tried maintenance/importDump.php with debug logging turned on) [08:54:33] 03(mod) Lucene wiki server (lsearch) does not run on Windows - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17325 +comment (10kai.kuehn) [09:03:45] it seems that other people has similar bugs with libxml2 and php 5.2.8: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=45996 [09:10:14] Hi, how do I find out which version of mediaWIKI am I looking at? I should change user settings to deny anonymous editing, but I can't get it to work and was wondering if the version had something to do with it. [09:10:29] Special:Version [09:10:42] Thanks [09:10:51] or DefaultSettings.php if you can't access the wiki [09:11:42] We were trying first "$wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; [09:11:44] " [09:11:47] and it doesn't work [09:11:57] se thought we have wrong version or something [09:12:11] sounds very old [09:12:24] yeah, but the version is 1.13.1 [09:12:25] should work [09:12:47] also disabling anonymous editing pages doesn't work [09:13:25] any edits to LocalSettings.php work? [09:14:02] I have now line "$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;" in LocalSettings.php and I can still edit pages as anonymous [09:14:05] Here --> return md5( $salt.'-'.md5( $password ) ) == $realHash <-- Is $salt a nonce value ? If so, Where is it made ? [09:14:31] or create... [09:14:51] spexi: i have the same problem like you except the edit works for me [09:15:22] ok [09:15:25] weird [09:15:34] spexi: but when i disable * from reading i have an error and my users doesnt identify through AD as they should... [09:15:56] I dont think our system is integrated with AD [09:17:39] I was just wondering, that do I need add some other lines of code to LocalSettings.php or some other file to make permissions work [09:17:50] or is it just enough to add that one line I said before [09:23:46] lol.. we have here two LocalSettings.php files.. [09:24:03] I don't know why, but when I edited other one, everything works fine :) [09:24:26] one in wiki/config and one in the wiki root :P [09:24:41] maybe I should ask from our project's former developers about this [09:24:44] sorry, but the $ value is generated as salt? [09:25:06] how is it generated? [09:26:28] 03(mod) Show move log when viewing/creating a deleted page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16950 normal->high; +comment (10church.of.emacs.ml) [09:27:37] spexi: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Active_Directory_Auto_Login <- i am trying to work by this menual [09:28:29] manual* [09:29:12] 03(mod) Change no.wikipedia.org to nb.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:29:25] !dl [09:29:25] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "dl". You might try: !bundels !logo !spam !webrequest !xampp [09:29:28] !dpl [09:29:28] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [09:29:48] CrushKing: ok, that new to me [09:30:11] mmm [09:30:22] I hope I didn't make it even worse now... [09:30:24] spexi: well thats not new to me... but it doesnt work for me... for now! :D [09:30:40] spexi: i shall fix it somehow... [09:30:50] yeah, hopefully you get it to work [09:31:04] how can I use DPL ? [09:31:24] Hi guys, I'm an italian student. I have to ask you some questions about your software [09:31:42] Is this the right place [09:31:45] yah please vanessa [09:31:59] ok [09:32:04] just a second [09:34:53] I hope my english will be good enough to speak my mind.. [09:35:27] go ahead [09:35:32] i am leaving [09:35:56] just write what you want to knnow ? [09:36:09] *BlueNight is about to Leaving for a short break [09:36:44] in editpage.php, what autoSum and summary are [09:36:50] ? [09:37:19] spexi: I'd recommend to copy permissions lines from DefaultSettings.php to your LocalSettings.php and to customize it for your suits. By default LocalSettings.php, generated with setup/index.php contains too few settings. [09:38:13] BlueNight: DPL is a bit outdated, I'd better use more powerful SMW (Semantic MediaWiki) [09:38:44] or better, what is a summary ? What do you refer whith that word ? [09:38:54] summary is what the user types in the small box below the main edit box that explains what he edited [09:39:06] ok [09:39:31] like in wikipedia, the box on the right ? [09:40:51] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges <-- see the plain text at the end of each line? that is the summary [09:41:14] it is manually typed in, but can have automatic portions, like the greyed bit, refers to a specific section on a page being edited [09:41:39] some user tools/scripts and some features like undo and rollback auto-generate the summary [09:42:07] ok I've understood [09:42:20] the next question is [09:42:32] $autosumm = $this->autoSumm ? $this->autoSumm : md5( $this->summary ); [09:42:40] ooh, I wrote that feature. [09:42:53] ask me! [09:43:06] *OverlordQ wonders what the obsession with people wondering about md5 lately is [09:43:08] werdnum: they might be auditing mediawiki [09:43:16] I told you to write that alias [09:43:17] QuestPC: ok, that sounds reasonable [09:43:30] =) [09:43:42] at the line above, why you are using an md5 hashing function ? [09:43:45] we should use fletcher everywhere [09:43:49] vanessa: which one to use? [09:43:53] vanessa: php doesn't have adler/fletcher! [09:44:42] I'm so smart, I know these! :) [09:44:53] mmm, SHA-512 [09:44:55] :) [09:45:32] werdnum: can you answer me ? [09:45:55] world would be much safer place, if people used right algorithms for right jobs [09:46:11] I completely agree [09:46:37] vanessa: Which particular question? [09:46:46] vanessa: Why am I using an md5 hashing function? [09:46:49] Shouldn't I? [09:47:04] It's *NOT* for security. [09:47:10] hi werdnum [09:47:20] It's just a convenient way of turning an arbitrary string into a short hex string that will fit in SESSIONs and such. [09:47:31] and what for ? [09:47:32] 03(mod) Whatlinkshere doesn't reflect changes in templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17170 (10od_mishehu) [09:47:33] how about crc32? [09:47:33] We do it all the time for cache keys, render hashes. [09:47:36] it is much shorter [09:47:40] aaaaa [09:47:43] ok ok ok [09:48:02] md5 is of course much shorter to type :o [09:48:09] :) [09:48:10] domas: my CSE541 teacher jokes that if you found a fast prime factor algorythm that you would be silenced [09:48:14] vanessa: You should read the code to find that out. It's 2am and I'm having one of the few conversations I can have with my girlfriend back home. I don't really want to spend hours explaining every little implementation detail :) [09:48:21] *OverlordQ wonders about all the md5 phobia lately [09:48:52] OMG OverlordQ, it is CRACKED didn't you KNOW? people can collide it with some work! [09:48:59] or buy 5000 playstations and bruteforce it [09:49:05] 14(INVALID) Sortable tables don't recognize yyyy-mm-dd date format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11784 (10michaelj.walsh) [09:49:05] insecure, etc etc [09:49:13] hehehe [09:49:19] it shouldn't even be used for simple shit, like ... like... [09:49:34] Well, md5 is still secure for practical purposes, if you use it properly (i.e. salting) [09:49:40] here is the most stupid use of it I can think of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/synaesthesia.js [09:50:04] I take the MD5 of usernames and take the first 6 characters and use it for a background color [09:50:21] Splarka: screenshot? [09:50:25] OMG THATS NOT SECURE SPLARKA! [09:50:27] It's always a trade-off between "What resources would it take to break this?", and of course "Is this the weakest link in the security chain?" [09:50:37] Aaron|away: I didn't get the joke [09:50:51] Aaron|away: I get the idea that prime factor algorithm breaks DSA/RSA though [09:50:51] werdnum: untrue. at the CCC this year there was an example of arbitrary md5 collisions being created. (they used it to defeat SSL) [09:50:55] Aaron|away: but whats about silencing? [09:50:56] Nikerabbit: javascript:void(importScript('User:Splarka/synaesthesia.js')); on Special:recentchanges [09:51:10] yksinaisyyteni: with 200 PS3's [09:51:21] yksinaisyyteni: and you have to append big blocks of data [09:51:24] domas: which isn't very much $ when you use it to phish 5,000 bank accounts [09:51:32] Splarka: on which wiki? [09:51:33] yksinaisyyteni: true [09:51:35] IIRC they just were able to issue invalid certs? [09:51:37] yksinaisyyteni: with what resources? [09:51:39] Nikerabbit: en.wp, sorry [09:51:41] oh, 200 PS3s. [09:51:45] Splarka: no, they just issued an invalid cert in case it was leaked [09:51:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges javascript:void(importScript('User:Splarka/synaesthesia.js')); [09:51:53] Splarka: (it wasn't invalid, just dated far in the past) [09:51:57] yksinaisyyteni: no, I mena.. [09:51:57] werdnum: like domas said, 200 PS3s [09:51:59] sigh [09:52:01] *Splarka rephrases [09:52:03] hmm [09:52:15] no worky for me :< [09:52:18] Splarka: they were able to issue valid certs [09:52:20] IIRC, the exploit they generated, was able to issue VALID certs from an invalid (eg non-existant) authority [09:52:26] Splarka: no. [09:52:30] Splarka: no, from valid authority [09:52:35] sigh [09:52:37] Splarka: it allowed a cert to be issued which appeared to be signed by any given CA key [09:52:38] Splarka: their attack was combining lots of different issues, though [09:52:38] *Splarka re-re-rephrases [09:52:44] Splarka: they used rapidssl's key in the demonstration [09:52:45] yes, but wasn't actually a valid authority [09:52:53] Splarka: it was a valid authority [09:52:55] pretend I said "non-official" instead of "invalid" [09:53:03] what does 'non-official' mean? [09:53:04] literal fskers [09:53:10] the CA cert they used is included in every browser around [09:53:11] not actually authorized to [09:53:13] Splarka: they managed to issue CA certificate that your browsers would accept [09:53:26] Splarka: after that, nothing is limiting from anything [09:53:51] not "invalid" in the sense if not being brower valid, but not being a real authority [09:54:15] what is 'not a real authority'? their CA key was signed by RapidSSL [09:54:20] but what I mean is, they didn't really "used it to defeat SSL" [09:54:29] yes they did! [09:54:43] If you can issue a fake certificate for an arbitrary domain, you have defeated the whole premise of SSL. [09:55:06] right. well, more specifically, they defeated SSL when using with MD5 -- when browsers stop accepting md5-signed certs, their attack won't work anymore [09:55:22] (but that will also render many existing real certs unusable) [09:55:46] anyway, as I was going to say before that pointless argreement (intentional misspelling, where people argue over agreeing but differ on semantics) [09:56:05] SSL is as much about preventing MITM (authentication) than about encryption. [09:56:09] i'm not agreeing with you, i don't really understand what you're trying to say ;) [09:56:23] vanessa: mediawiki generally doesn't use md5 where the security matters, passwords are double salted/hashed, but not distributed, and image hashes are in SHA-1 [09:57:09] they didn't defeat all md5 signed certs [09:57:16] if you are auditing mediawiki, several people have done that with automated tools before, all they end up doing is asking a bunch of pointless questions abou warnings given to them by the automated PHP audit tools [09:57:20] OverlordQ: you don't need to defeat *all* certs [09:58:01] We haven't had an arbitrary execution vulnerability since 2004 or something. [09:58:11] in fact, the autosummary is probably absolutely the least important use of the md5 [09:58:46] IIRC, it is simply used as a convenience to check if the user changed the summary, which is a user preference "make sure I am not stupid and submit without a summary" (non-literal) [09:59:08] (right werdnum? ir is it used for something else?) [09:59:35] Yeah. [10:00:07] hmm, vanessa was using the same IP as scuffio [10:00:13] maybe he figured everyone had /ignored him ;) [10:00:19] 14(INVALID) Lucene wiki server (lsearch) does not run on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17325 +comment (10bretthillebrand) [10:00:55] werdnum: thats why adler/fletcher is better! [10:01:18] *werdnum <3 his hex2ip command [10:01:21] Nikerabbit: did you get it to demonstrate or do you still need a cap? [10:01:21] yksinaisyyteni: did you see mydumper? :) [10:01:25] yksinaisyyteni: I wrote it for you [10:01:26] wikibugs: well, LOTS of things does not run on Windows.. and vice versa. [10:01:30] 10:01 -!- Hex d4426aeb corresponds to 212.66.106.235 [10:01:31] whee [10:01:33] yksinaisyyteni: well, I had your needs in mind! [10:01:39] !bot | QuestPC [10:01:39] --mwbot-- QuestPC: A bot is an automatic processes which interacts with MediaWiki as though they were human editors designed to make easier automated actions which are arbitrary to make manually. For an overview how to create a bot and a list of known frameworks can be found on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Creating_a_bot [10:01:41] domas: where? [10:01:46] erm, oops. [10:01:47] yksinaisyyteni: lp:mydumper [10:01:50] QuestPC: mwbot is a bot :)\ [10:01:59] werdnum: oops sorry [10:02:02] yksinaisyyteni: 10x faster than mysqldump [10:02:06] yksinaisyyteni: \o/ [10:02:11] werd: I called mine /hexdns and it DNSes automatically after... [10:02:23] Splarka: cool. [10:02:27] domas: awesome! [10:02:28] used it way back when that awful CGI IRC first came out, like in 99 or 00 sometime [10:02:34] domas: can it automatically stop and restart slave, and write the log position in the dump? [10:02:41] yksinaisyyteni: no need to stop/start [10:02:49] yksinaisyyteni: it does 'FLUSH TABLE WITH READ LOCK' and writes master/slave positions [10:03:01] it is SMARTER! [10:03:04] werdnum: not so useful now though, you can just /whois or /whowas them, the real name is generally telling you the IP [10:03:12] launchpad is very confusing.. how do i see the source? [10:03:15] Splarka: yeah, but /hex2ip is cooler. [10:03:19] hah [10:03:27] yksinaisyyteni: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mydumper/mydumper/trunk/files [10:03:28] no reason to deprecate a feature when it is cooler [10:03:33] yksinaisyyteni: or 'bzr co lp:mydumper' [10:03:41] Hi All [10:03:51] yksinaisyyteni: code sucks, because I was using glib first time in my life :) [10:03:57] yksinaisyyteni: yea but it's a trivial attack to mitigate and md5 signing has been planned to be phased out by jan anywyas [10:03:59] yksinaisyyteni: and now I think I should've better used C++ :) [10:04:00] How can I fix this little sweetheart >>> "A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "FRCacheUpdate::doUpdate". MySQL returned error "1267: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_bin,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '=' (127.0.0.1)"." [10:04:17] werd: cgi irc should convert IPs to base-64! 0-9A-Z[] [10:04:56] Splarka: o_O [10:05:03] Splarka: You norammllu have all the answers :P [10:05:07] more room for other stuff [10:05:18] Prom_cat: A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "FRCacheUpdate::doUpdate". MySQL returned error "1267: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_bin,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '=' (127.0.0.1)". [10:05:21] deja vu [10:05:25] Prom_cat: The database should be created with proper UTF8 default charset and collation utf8_general_ci BEFORE running setup script [10:05:27] SO? [10:05:34] !DPL [10:05:34] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [10:05:45] yksinaisyyteni: merge requests welcome! :) [10:06:00] Splarka: Yes, It's same issue, on the Same wiki that im trying to fix :P [10:06:07] domas: when are we moving to mysql5 :) [10:06:11] did you see Porter1? You're using a mix of latin and utf8 with implicit and coercible, which mysql doesn't like uaa, you will need to correct the table to have matching collations Or, since this appears to be a mySQL bug, attempt to update your mySQL databases [10:06:15] werdnum: some day [10:06:17] WHO CEN HELP ME WITH DPL ? [10:06:20] werdnum: why? :) [10:06:25] domas: Thanks, I'll mark it in my calendar. [10:06:32] domas: subqueries! group_concat! [10:06:34] Prom_cat: default rpm mysql builds usually have that LATIN charset and collation by default - very sad thing. [10:06:43] werdnum: I can get group_concat into our current build! :) [10:06:52] hehe [10:06:53] mmm, no. [10:06:57] :-) [10:07:00] some day! [10:07:04] QuestPC: Its a wiki in Arabic, so LATIN is kinda out of the question :P [10:07:14] Something I'll have to fix [10:07:28] Prom_cat: mediawiki always uses latin1 tables even when storing utf-8 [10:07:38] Prom_cat: there's an experimental schema that uses mysql utf-8, though [10:07:43] Prom_cat: My wikis are mostly in Russian, so LATIN is out of question too.. [10:07:47] (but it has problems with mysql's broken unicode support..) [10:08:03] if only wikifarms worked on Pg :( [10:08:05] werdnum: are you still here ? :) [10:08:11] Prom_cat: I do build mysql myself with utf8 as default charset and collation. [10:08:19] vanessa: I'm about to go bed [10:08:26] I have to go to work for these silly 'wikimedia' people :P [10:08:35] ahahha [10:08:41] I'm one of those [10:08:47] hmm? [10:08:50] QuestPC: mmm [10:08:59] silly.... [10:09:02] :) [10:09:30] vanessa: oh no I mean tomorrow I have to be at work. [10:09:33] Except this channel is my job [10:09:35] so... :P [10:09:41] Prom_cat: since then I don't have that error anymore. even though it was not easy to guess all the options of mysql configure script properly (took some time) [10:09:44] werdnum It's just a convenient way of turning an arbitrary string into a short hex string that will fit in SESSIONs and such. [10:09:56] okay seriously bedtime [10:09:58] what do you mean whith session ? [10:10:02] I am not joking. [10:10:04] $_SESSION [10:10:06] look it up :D [10:10:09] ok [10:10:18] thk [10:10:29] Hey whats does everyone think of cherokee? [10:10:46] it was a horrible car [10:11:12] no, im talking about cherokee httpd [10:11:21] never heard of it [10:11:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_HTTP_Server [10:11:53] werdnum: not many people get paid to sit on IRC all day, weird feeling eh? [10:11:55] Untill Recently nither had I [10:12:02] 04(REOPENED) Lucene wiki server (lsearch) does not run on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17325 +comment (10rainman) [10:13:24] 03(mod) Lucene wiki server (lsearch) does not run on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17325 (10bretthillebrand) [10:13:44] Splarka: I wish i was paid to sit on IRC all day [10:13:50] that would be pretty cool :) [10:14:53] Prom_cat: pick anything you enjoy, anything! eating, sleeping, having sex, watching tv, shooting nuns, anything... [10:15:03] anything, and you may find, being paid to do it can ruin it [10:15:28] when someone else dictates how you do it, it can end up not being fun anymore [10:15:47] *Splarka hated being a paid nun shooter [10:16:09] 03(FIXED) Lucene wiki server (lsearch) does not run on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17325 +comment (10bretthillebrand) [10:16:23] I love it when people use bugs as a bulliten bored [10:16:24] blah [10:16:26] board^ [10:16:45] imagine being paid to be sarcastic fulltime! X_X [10:16:55] WOW [10:16:57] im envious [10:17:48] 03daniel * r46758 10/trunk/WikiWord/ (25 files in 6 dirs): init all stores (WORK IN PROGRESS) [10:18:35] 03(mod) Sortable table date sorting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 +comment (10michaelj.walsh) [10:19:21] 04(REOPENED) Lucene wiki server (lsearch) does not run on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17325 +comment (10rainman) [10:19:34] FsRepo.php , A repository for files accessible via the local filesystem. How can I use it ? [10:19:43] or better, how use it ? [10:27:01] hm.. can you insert EPS into openoffice documents? [10:28:45] bo [10:29:01] bo [10:29:05] or no? [10:29:10] vanessa :P [10:32:37] hi, i would need some help to set up my sourceforge user wiki. maybe anyone here who speaks german and can help me? (du vielleicht, codeispoetry? :) ) [10:33:12] 03(mod) Sortable table date sorting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 (10michaelj.walsh) [10:33:13] Flo_1: qry [10:33:45] After upgrade of mediawiki the ConfirmEdit extension is broke =/ I've installed the latest version of the extension ConfirmEdit but still the same problem. The captcha question appears when addning an external link. But it won't save the article - the page will just reload with another captcha question. Any ideas anybody? [10:34:09] 14(DUP) Wikibits patch #4 - more date formats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15401 +comment (10michaelj.walsh) [10:34:12] 03(mod) Sortable table date sorting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8226 +comment (10michaelj.walsh) [10:34:30] was no [10:37:31] sorry but I can't don't you this. In this function function wfMemcKey( /*... */ ), what is the argument ? [10:37:52] Does /*... */ is a comment ? [10:37:59] I interested to see if a dual master setup on MySQl will work with mediawiki :/ [10:38:14] Really, I've really never seen it [10:40:02] /* */ is a possible comment syntax in C and all derivatives, javascript, CSS... [10:40:03] nobody? [10:40:21] and Java too, IIRC [10:40:31] and PHP [10:40:33] 03jojo * r46759 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.i18n.php Collection.templates.php): move download button up. display alternative text if there is only one format. [10:40:51] PHP is a comment slut [10:40:53] yes, but is possible as parameter of a funvtion ? [10:41:11] function wfMemcKey( /*... */ ) [10:41:32] what about it? [10:41:43] and here how you it [10:41:50] one sec [10:42:04] $key = wfMemcKey( 'RemoteFileDescription', 'url', md5($renderUrl) ); [10:42:17] yea it uses func_get_args() to get the arguments passed to it [10:42:53] where is func_get_ars? [10:42:59] it's a PHP function [10:43:35] so let me understand [10:43:54] there is a function that call another function [10:44:10] that's pretty normal [10:44:18] insted use wfMemcKey directly [10:44:38] now, i don't know your code and how it works [10:45:04] I mean, I've the big picture [10:45:17] and I'm trying to understand a little bit more [10:45:31] why do people use 1000-byte long memcached key names? [10:46:00] domas, for a future when there are 10715086071862673000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 articles [10:46:21] (oop, 1000 byte? I thought you meant bit, 1000 byte is a bit insane) [10:46:30] Splarka: lol [10:46:36] vanessa: not much to understand, wfMemcKey is defined that way so it can accept a variable amount of arguments [10:47:26] Splarka: max key length is limited to 255, but why do people write stuff like 'RemoteFileDescription' there [10:47:29] that stuff TAKES SPACE [10:47:40] will have to do memcached use audit soon [10:47:43] :( [10:47:52] heads will roll? [10:51:51] what is html description page ? [10:52:46] function getDescriptionText() { [10:56:18] improper decoding of < > during dump restore was really a PHP 5.2.8 + libxml2 issue, I've switched to 5.2.9a and it seems to work properly. but, a lots of improper pages with the same revision were dumped and now they don't want to become updated with following entry in the log: "skipping existing revision" I can't find a commandline option of maintenance/importDump.php to force importing the current revision [10:56:52] 03(mod) whitelist interface strings of Wikimedia Commons for translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5925 +comment (10lupo.bugzilla) [10:58:02] Anyone knows how to force re-importing the existing revision? (xml dump, old import was broken due to PHP bug) [11:01:14] 03(mod) Whatlinkshere doesn't reflect changes in templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17170 (10paul.copperman) [11:04:31] yah [11:04:39] wöh [11:05:03] Nikerabbit: Do you know something about Extension:Intersection ? [11:05:12] no [11:05:15] I've installed Extension:Intersection to gather list of pages from various categories on a single page using DynamicPageList script but when I try to save page, sometime, it gives me a white page, some time error page and sometimes its saved but nothing appears. [11:08:25] *QuestPC *sigh* screwed dump restore [11:11:16] When changing which groups a user belongs to, is it ok just to manually change it to the database? I have database access and access to the files but can't get in contact with the previous wiki updaters, who are the only sysops :) [11:11:41] req: yes [11:11:48] Very cool. [11:11:50] yah [11:11:55] req: make me as sysop too [11:11:55] wöh [11:11:59] ok [11:13:11] I appreciate, if someone look to my problem having with DPL [11:17:53] what is FileStore Class for ? [11:18:14] I didn't find anything aout it in doxygen [11:19:21] 03(mod) edit-module does't work with centralauth-cookie - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17335 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:19:43] ...... [11:21:11] dammit [11:21:30] nonsese\ [11:22:44] what is that class? [11:28:42] vanessa: what are you doing? [11:44:09] Nikerabbit ? [11:44:26] Nikerabbit ? [11:45:39] vanessa: very simple question compared to yours [11:46:19] mmmm ok [11:48:29] what do the funtion wfGetCachedNotice ? [11:49:17] I'm not answering if you don't :o [11:49:44] ahaha [11:50:04] But It's the first time I see this code [11:50:12] how can I help you ? [11:50:26] with all due respect.... [11:51:36] so can you hel me ? [11:51:45] Nikerabbit [11:52:16] maybe if you answer my question [11:55:21] Nikerabbiti can't help you [11:55:34] as i said before [11:55:39] vanessa: what are you doing? [11:55:46] aaaaaaaaa [11:55:59] i'm analyzing your software [11:56:08] static analisys [11:56:25] in order to find out some security issue [11:57:00] it's a essay for a course on my university [11:57:06] an essay [11:57:58] now you can answer me ? [11:58:01] :) [11:58:17] can you answer me ? [11:58:33] sorry, my english is not so good [11:59:05] Nikerabbit are you here ? [11:59:13] maybe [11:59:31] Splarka: what's your mother tongue? [12:00:00] ZX81 BASIC [12:00:08] but I learned english to make it in the real world [12:00:16] too baaad [12:00:41] guys I need your help [12:00:46] :( [12:00:48] yes, I can't help translate anything [12:01:12] if( md5( $notice ) == $cachedNotice['hash'] ) { [12:01:28] weak enription issue [12:01:37] it is not encryption [12:01:40] I think that is safe [12:02:04] your are only comparing two hashed string [12:02:16] and md5 is very safe encyption, if you encrypt your movie with it, it is impossible to get it back [12:02:21] what do you think ? [12:02:48] I know, in that line [12:02:55] what are you doing [12:03:10] what is $notice ? [12:03:17] what is in there? [12:03:47] the contents? [12:03:52] yes [12:04:24] "Wikipedia's site notice leaked, jimmy wales arrested" [12:07:18] Splarka can you answer me pleaz ? [12:08:54] 03ialex * r46760 10/trunk/extensions/Farmer/ (Farmer.i18n.php MediaWikiFarmer.php MediaWikiFarmer_Wiki.php): Removed messages used for errors when loading Farmer, wfMsgHtml() and related stuff cannot be called at this time since this used when executing LocalSettings.php [12:09:02] vanessa: http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9282/vennsy7.jpg [12:09:49] O_O [12:10:47] !audit [12:10:47] --mwbot-- Warnings thrown by code auditing tools like Fortify are mostly nonsense. Unless you understand the MediaWiki code and know what you're talking about, don't ask us about every warning you get. [12:12:53] !splarka [12:12:53] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "splarka". You might try: !ops [12:13:15] *Splarka cries [12:13:22] :'( [12:13:40] vanessa: see http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20090124.txt starting at: [11:06:04] I'm auditing mediawiki with Fortify SCA [12:14:01] this happens periodically, people come in and nitpick at every use of md5() for no possible reason [12:14:12] when a basic understanding of php will let them figure out most uses on their own [12:14:22] at least, according to those that know php, I don't, heh [12:14:36] Splarka: wrong mime type [12:14:48] [11:14:55] I understand, but I have to do: is a project for my university "La Sapienza" of Rome .... by the way if the context of use is different and mediawiki wasn't open source, how it's possible to adjust this variable to avoid that someone could steal information ? [12:14:54] Splarka: oh, sorry, good type [12:15:07] *Splarka bites Nikerabbit [12:15:21] 03(mod) edit-module does't work with centralauth-cookie - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17335 (10bugreporter) [12:16:32] !is Splarka crying [12:16:32] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "is". You might try: !adminsettings !bizzwiki !cms !copyright !csshideheader !csv2wp !displaytitle !domdocument !dpl !hosting !humor !imagemagic !install !interwiki !multiplewiki !mysql !next !passthru !renameuser !threads [12:16:36] !Splarka is crying [12:16:36] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: splarka [12:17:22] !splarka [12:17:22] --mwbot-- [12:19:28] Splarka could ou sendme your fpr file ? [12:20:32] *Splarka blinks [12:20:38] *Splarka looks that one up [12:21:00] http://filext.com/file-extension/FPR [12:21:01] what? [12:21:09] nada [12:21:13] i wa wrong [12:23:30] Splarka: but I don't like google eats those [12:26:45] After upgrade of mediawiki the ConfirmEdit extension is broke =/ I've installed the latest version of the extension ConfirmEdit but still the same problem. The captcha question appears when addning an external link. But it won't save the article - the page will just reload with another captcha question. Any ideas anybody? [12:30:11] cookies? [12:35:55] 03(mod) Change no.wikipedia.org to nb.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 (10oddeivind) [12:42:51] :) [12:43:10] 03(mod) Change no.wikipedia.org to nb.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17047 (10oddeivind) [12:46:09] Does anyone know how the wikidata user database works? >.< [12:46:15] *mediawiki [12:47:12] Can't work out how to add / remove users from mediawiki without going through their signup form. [12:47:26] Zorg`, why do you want to do so? [12:47:38] Well I have a seperate account system on my server for something else. [12:47:48] So when they signup for that I want to add a wiki account of the same name for them [12:47:56] use an auth extension [12:47:58] !Auth [12:47:58] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [12:48:39] hmm [12:51:29] Oh, so just pull in the AuthPlugin.php to your own script and use it as a class? [12:52:39] or re-write it for my own needs? :/ [12:53:43] Ohh I see [12:54:12] What do I put in LocalSettings.php to get it to use include/AuthPlugin.php? [12:54:52] 03(NEW) Redirects don't work after page move (regression) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17300 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (paul.copperman) [12:56:46] gosh [12:56:52] the text is identical to the other bug [12:57:08] ih never mind [12:57:13] it's just stupid lag [12:57:30] lol [13:22:10] 03(NEW) REQ: Output database queries as XML for AJAX apps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17336 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (djnrrd) [13:26:33] hi room [13:26:43] Splarka: Can you help me with DPL ? [13:28:30] hi again [13:28:40] hi Nike [13:30:00] it seems to be an unmaintained extension nobody doesn.t want to touch [13:30:51] hhmm [13:31:20] any way? [13:32:00] i'm on a bus [13:32:13] even developer of this extension is not trying to helping me [13:32:24] so? [13:33:18] who is he? [13:33:30] i thnk ILLYA [13:34:04] haven't heard before [13:35:03] oh really ;O [13:35:03] I thnk he is retired now [13:36:36] Is it possible to include the page title in the action=render view? [13:37:42] it would break the use case? [13:44:32] I was just dc [13:45:02] anybody here, who can help me with DPL? [13:48:41] Hello mediawiki I have two questions regarding maintainance/PopulateParentId.inc. I am updating from 1.10 to 1.13.3 and I am getting the following error: [13:48:49] asking a concrete question tends to help, BlueNights [13:49:11] http://pastebin.com/m3f34d445 [13:49:34] Also, I see that I can increase the BATCH_SIZE. How large can I make that? [13:49:54] Duesentrieb: I tried many times writing concrete question but no one is replying ... : [13:50:06] My MAX(rev_id) is currently 1997911909 [13:56:42] 03soxred93 * r46762 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: When creating a new section, one can specify the 'nosummary' parameter to disallow creation of a section title [13:57:18] surely then it's not creating a new section anymore [13:57:36] what does function wfGetCachedNotice( $name ) ? [13:57:56] it is in global fuction [13:59:05] yksinaisyyteni, then we need to have an "append" function then [13:59:09] I can't find anythingh about it [14:01:47] nobody can answer me ? What wfGetCachedNotice( $name ) function does ? [14:01:56] nobody can answer me ? What wfGetCachedNotice( $name ) function do ? [14:02:04] wow [14:06:26] Weak cryptographic hashes cannot guarantee data integrity and should not be used in security-critical contexts. [14:06:43] if( md5( $notice ) == $cachedNotice['hash'] ) { [14:06:54] is this a security issue [14:06:55] ? [14:07:04] I don't think so [14:07:05] i think everyone here is probably tired of answering these questions by now [14:07:17] yes [14:07:32] but i just wanna now what that function does [14:07:47] in doxygen I didn't find anything about it [14:08:59] yksinaisyyteni: thks for your help [14:09:01] .. [14:09:54] vanessa: it is [14:11:28] domas: ? [14:11:59] it is security critical context [14:12:01] and security bug [14:12:14] feel free to announce that in full-disclosure [14:12:15] or similar list [14:12:38] as you say [14:12:41] .. [14:12:44] bye [14:12:46] bye! [14:13:19] yay italian security researchers [14:13:24] dealt with! [14:13:25] *ialex slaps domas :P [14:13:34] yay [14:14:33] as member of mysql security team I'm good at dealing with security incidents [14:14:42] *domas flexes muscles [14:15:46] *kirjain_X bows down to domas [14:16:17] you have no idea how much spam security@ aliases get :( [14:16:46] hi [14:16:47] as much as postmaster and root? [14:16:49] haha [14:16:57] hey tuudik, how's your md5 skills? [14:17:04] shitty [14:17:06] :) [14:17:12] i have on question [14:17:13] damn :( [14:17:17] regading wantedpages [14:17:46] how can i do so that Special:Wantedpages would show me articles, not templates [14:17:53] i mean without templates [14:18:20] well, you can hack it to filter out namespaces [14:18:27] it won't make it faster, though [14:18:58] i dont need to make faster, just that it would not contain templates [14:19:01] cuz for templates [14:19:14] i have other special [14:19:26] 03(NEW) API: Different results with &cmcontinue between using %20 and underline (_) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17337 major; normal; MediaWiki: API; (Wiki.Melancholie) [14:19:32] but can u tell me exactly what file i have to edit? [14:21:45] includes/specials/SpecialWantedPages.php (or perhaps just includes/SpecialWantedPages.php) [14:21:53] okei [14:29:53] 03(mod) API: Different results with &cmcontinue between using %20 and underline (_) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17337 +comment (10Platonides) [14:42:10] no changes on the 1.14 branch for a week. does that mean its close for release? [14:42:22] 03(mod) edit-module does't work with centralauth-cookie - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17335 (10roan.kattouw) [14:43:44] 03malafaya * r46763 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/ (i18n/language.i18n.php view.php): small i18n for VocTrainer [14:44:57] 03malafaya * r46764 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/i18n/language.i18n.php: missing comma between elements: I wonder how it worked [14:45:27] 03(NEW) Changing MediaWiki configuration settings for RM Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17338 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (gion-andri) [14:46:11] 14(INVALID) API: Different results with &cmcontinue between using %20 and underline (_) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17337 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:49:23] is roan in irc? [14:49:53] Autocomplete says on. [14:49:55] no. [14:52:51] 03(mod) API: Different results with &cmcontinue between using %20 and underline (_) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17337 (10roan.kattouw) [14:53:52] function wfGetCachedNotice( $name ) what does it do ? [14:54:08] I find it everywhere on your site.... [14:54:26] vanessa: Maybe the mailinglist helps [14:54:33] ok [14:54:55] vanessa: It pulls the sitenotice from cache if possible [14:58:06] RoanKattouw hi, edittoken is exaclty the same global and local cookie [14:58:45] ("ABCDE123%2B%5C") [14:58:56] Merlissimo: And they're both not equal to +\ ? [14:59:45] they contain chars bevor die +\ [14:59:55] Yeah, they should [15:00:23] The deWiki cookies worked fine, and the centralauth cookies didn't, right? [15:00:38] yes [15:01:45] What happens when you use *only* the centralauth cookies to 1) get userinfo 2) get a token 3) edit ? [15:01:50] but only on edit ( wrong token or cookie invalid on edit) [15:02:39] 1) userinfo works fine, 2) token is the same abc+\ as with local cookir 3) bad token error [15:02:52] 03(mod) Changing MediaWiki configuration settings for RM Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17338 +shell (10matthew.britton) [15:02:56] What happens when you use just +\ as a token in step 3 ? [15:03:18] hi [15:03:35] I want to know if there is a new version of MW (1.14) and how i can have it ? thx [15:04:07] 1.14 is not released yet, although it's supposed to be released soon [15:04:10] [15:04:23] At least that's what the release folks have been telling us for the last month or so [15:04:29] Merlissimo: That's with just +\ as a token then? [15:04:38] 03(mod) Lucene wiki server (lsearch) does not run on Windows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17325 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [15:04:39] thx for help [15:04:58] yes [15:05:10] &token=%2B%5C [15:05:15] Merlissimo: And userinfo does list the right info? (right username and all?) [15:05:31] [15:08:09] on mediawiki is there a code so that clicking on images that link to a page or site? and not to the description page of the image? [15:08:22] !imagelink | mib_ntawv6bl [15:08:22] --mwbot-- mib_ntawv6bl: In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. [15:08:41] i can be a wrong token returned or the cookie is not accepted on edit [15:08:45] i think [15:09:00] Merlissimo: Well obviously action=edit does think you're logged in, or +\ would've been accepted [15:10:57] <^demon> RoanKattouw: I wonder if the patch in bug 11430 still cleanly applies? [15:10:59] right, sending no cookie returns with token "+\ " [15:11:13] ^demon: I wouldn't count on it :( [15:11:36] *^demon tries to apply it [15:12:06] 03(NEW) User group changes not effective when using UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17339 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (puhelin09) [15:13:04] 14(DUP) User group changes not effective when using UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17339 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:13:07] 03(mod) Sysop and bureaucrat rights not effective after adding user via UserLoadFromSession hook . - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17077 (10roan.kattouw) [15:13:09] <^demon> So far so good actually. Only 3 conflicts [15:14:59] 04(REOPENED) User group changes not effective when using UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17339 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:15:07] 03(mod) User group changes not effective when using UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17339 (10puhelin09) [15:15:34] <^demon> RoanKattouw: Ended up with only 9 files conflicting [15:15:48] 03(mod) User group changes not effective when using UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17339 (10puhelin09) [15:16:13] 03(mod) User group changes not effective when using UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17339 (10puhelin09) [15:16:53] ^demon: Doesn't sound too bad. But those conflicts require a lot of care, I think [15:17:19] <^demon> I'm trying to manually do them and get an up-to-date patch. Maybe you can prod Brion into finally reviewing it if it at least cleanly applies :) [15:17:31] i got users to be able to log in into the wiki with the domain user but the ldap extention still doesnt read their permission (all on read only) AND its not sso :( [15:17:42] any one have any idea what can i do about it? [15:18:25] ^demon: I've tried to get Brion to review that multiple times, and I don't think he's gonna do any serious review on it [15:18:38] Not until it's actually committed that is [15:18:56] !authplugin | CrushKing [15:18:56] --mwbot-- CrushKing: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [15:19:08] CrushKing: *Maybe* that helps ---^ [15:20:16] RoanKattouw should i still answer you question on the bug or is everything clear? [15:20:36] <^demon> RoanKattouw: You could go ahead and commit. We already forked 1.14 :) [15:20:42] Merlissimo: You could do so for the record, but I have absolutely no idea what's going on [15:20:58] ^demon: Yeah. If you're fixing it up anyway, go ahead and commit it yourself [15:20:58] mwbot2 and RoanKattouw im working with this : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Windows_NTLM_LDAP_Auto_Auth [15:21:21] but still it doesnt work [15:21:47] <^demon> Alrighty. [15:23:18] 03(mod) User group changes not effective when using UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17339 +comment (10puhelin09) [15:23:28] so any other ideas? [15:23:37] or how to debug? [15:23:55] 03(mod) edit-module does't work with centralauth-cookie - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17335 (10bugreporter) [15:24:30] 03(NEW) Notification messages not being sent despite preferences being set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17340 normal; normal; Wikimedia: OTRS; (ultrablue) [15:25:16] CrushKing: What do you mean by "it doesn't read their permission"? [15:26:41] i directed the lets say sysop to be connected to a group in AD which i added my self into [15:27:08] <^demon> RoanKattouw: These manual 9 patches are gonna take awhile :p [15:27:19] ^demon: Yeah, I expected they would [15:27:20] but still all i have is read permission, and other users (that arent in the groups still can connect with their domain user) [15:28:15] CrushKing: Please log in with the plugin thingy if you haven't done so already and paste the output of http://www.yourwiki.com/w/api.php?action=query&meta=userinfo&uiprop=groups|rights into the pastebin [15:30:08] there is no such page [15:30:56] CrushKing: What's your URL to index.php ? [15:31:06] In that URL, replace index.php with api.php?.... [15:31:20] RoanKattouw: oh ok one sec [15:32:24] RoanKattouw: ok did it [15:32:47] Pastebin link? [15:32:53] RoanKattouw: the rights is read and the groups is [15:33:20] RoanKattouw: a bit problematic my network doesnt connected to the internet so its or copy paste manually or the summary as i did here [15:33:48] CrushKing: Use the pastebin at http://rafb.net/paste/ [15:37:18] RoanKattouw i've tested i bit more. edit works if i add the local session cookie (dewiki_session) as fourth cookie (no local username or token cookie) [15:37:29] CrushKing: I'm sorry, but I can't really help you as I have no idea what's going on. All I was able to tell from the api.php thingy is that MediaWiki honestly thinks you're not in the sysop group and don't have any rights but read [15:37:46] Merlissimo: Isn't there a centralauth session cookie then? [15:38:14] it works with the 4 centralauth + dewiki_session cookie on edit request [15:38:26] Right [15:38:34] centralauth session is also set [15:38:44] And you're sure you didn't send the dewiki_session cookie along when requesting the token? [15:38:50] centralauth_Session [15:38:55] 03(mod) Notification messages not being sent despite preferences being set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17340 (10shagge) [15:39:05] yes [15:39:22] Hmm that's strange [15:39:36] because i create the http-header directly myself in the ode [15:39:42] <^demon> RoanKattouw: 6 files to go :-p [15:39:44] RoanKattouw: thanks, any idea how i can check who is in the sysop group? or how can i add them there? (even though i did connect it to the ldap query) [15:39:59] !groups | CrushKing [15:39:59] --mwbot-- CrushKing: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [15:40:31] ok [15:40:34] thank you all :) [15:41:13] ill try it tomorrow when i get back to work :) [15:41:25] cheers and have fun :) [15:41:55] 03(mod) syntax to transclude a page without the containing page inheriting categories , interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835 (10cenarium.sysop) [15:42:01] Is there anyway to export > import pages from one wiki to another, without getting the annoying little tag appended to the bottom of every page saying where it came from? [15:47:29] what is a HistoryBlob? is it used or is only a beta ? [15:47:40] vanessa, why are you asking all these questions? [15:48:06] i'm analyzing the code [15:48:18] For what purpose? [15:48:22] It looks like it's used. [15:48:31] academic purpose [15:48:48] i'm attending a course on software security [15:49:07] Then why'd you care about HistoryBlob? It's got nothing to do with security [15:49:10] and my essay is analyze mediawiki 1.13.2 [15:49:38] could you tell me why ? [15:49:51] Because it's used to store page history? [15:50:05] I don't even know what it does exactly, but you can tell a lot from the name [15:50:06] public function addItem( $text ) [15:50:26] $hash = md5( $text ); [15:50:30] I suggest you learn a bit more about the general structure (the big picture) of MW before you just dive into a random piece of code and start asking questions about it [15:50:40] <^demon> If you're not already using it, I'd recommend using http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/ - it contains all the inline documentation, organized for browsing. [15:50:53] <^demon> So if you're trying to look up classes and their methods, go there. [15:51:00] And that's probably just another hash used for cache lookup or equality testing [15:51:03] MD5 is used a lot in MediaWiki code. It's not generally used for purposes that would be affected by the known collision attacks on MD5. [15:51:05] Nothing to do with security [15:51:24] ok [15:51:24] You could probably force an incorrect cache lookup if you wanted, but that doesn't hurt security. [15:51:42] can you be more specific ? [15:52:16] Simetrical: [15:52:22] <^demon> How can he be more specific. I thought that was a pretty decent explanation of how we use md5(). [15:52:39] i know how md5 works and it's problem [15:53:18] in fact, when you use for security reason, like token generation, you use the salted version [15:53:42] vanessa md5 has only a problem on security context, but md5 is also used in non security conext [15:53:53] I know [15:54:01] like lookup [15:54:07] or compare [15:54:19] like you do in a lot of function [15:54:29] isn't true? [15:55:12] Simetrical: why don't hurt security ? [15:56:43] vanessa, it's only a security vulnerability if it's possible to do bad things with it. [15:57:01] For instance, gain access to data you shouldn't, cause DoS, take over people's accounts, etc. [15:57:38] If revisions are indexed by md5, at best, you could get one revision retrieved instead of another. [15:57:51] I suppose that could be abused somehow. [15:58:02] I can't think of an obvious way to do it. [15:58:14] thanks a lot [15:58:25] vanessa: it is a security problem! [15:58:29] critical one! [15:58:30] ;-) [15:58:46] domas: i'm just asking.... [15:59:27] i'm a student, and I've only learn to you [15:59:43] <^demon> I had something I planned on asking you Domas, but now I can't remember it for the life of me... [15:59:51] <^demon> Now that you're around when I am :-p [16:00:36] ^demon: did you see my new super duper software?!!!? [16:01:06] <^demon> The one that Brion rolled back or a different one? [16:01:08] mydumper? [16:01:19] I saw it on your blog. [16:01:42] *^demon reads [16:02:29] I have a simple setup and am fine with rsync and mysqldump --single-transaction for now. :) [16:03:59] <^demon> No use for me, but certainly very cool. [16:04:10] <^demon> I don't have any databases that big at the moment :-p [16:04:45] 04(REOPENED) API: Different results with &cmcontinue between using %20 and underline (_) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17337 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [16:08:56] <^demon> RoanKattouw: This patch is getting harder. I'm finding stuff that no longer exists :-p [16:10:59] is there anyway to limit search to specific categories? [16:14:55] 14(INVALID) API: Different results with &cmcontinue between using %20 and underline (_) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17337 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [16:15:18] ^demon: Yeah, it's hell. It's not lke you couldn't expect that when you looked at the size of the patch ;) [16:16:59] ^demon: And to make stuff worse, I'm gonna cause a possible conflict by committing something now [16:17:07] <^demon> :-\ [16:17:10] *^demon stabs [16:17:18] *RoanKattouw blames XML [16:17:37] It's a breaking change changing the output format for iiprop=metadata so it no longer causes invalid XML errors [16:20:36] BFrank https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16844 [16:20:49] purgeHistory () Purge the shared history (OldLocalFile) cache. If someone guess the hash, can he/she delete something important ? [16:21:10] $hashedName = md5($this->getName()); [16:21:10] hello [16:21:32] 03daniel * r46765 10/trunk/WikiWord/ (20 files in 7 dirs): multi-store init (finally compiles, phew) [16:21:42] vanessa: I don't know the details, but I believe permissions are checked before that function is even called [16:21:44] vanessa only the cache, the page is rebuild then [16:21:55] Oh, it just purges a cache [16:22:01] Forget what I just said [16:22:45] Merlissimo: thanks [16:23:03] BFrank or do you mean the real srach form? [16:23:08] search form [16:23:10] real search form [16:23:27] I want to limit my search results to content within a specific category [16:23:40] Merlissimo: yes, but ther's a permission check ? [16:23:44] then +incategory should works, but is has a but at the moment on WP wich is fixed on next update [16:23:48] or anyone can do it ? [16:24:07] +incategory? [16:24:26] <^demon> RoanKattouw: Shouldn't conflict *too* bad I hope. [16:24:33] Nah, don't think so [16:25:18] BFrank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Category_intersection#Using_MediaWiki_search_to_find_category_intersections - works also in non intersection cases [16:25:29] thanks [16:25:31] let me check that out [16:25:51] 03catrope * r46766 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [16:25:52] * API: (bug 17326) BREAKING CHANGE: Changing output format for [16:25:52] prop=imageinfo&iiprop=metadata to something based on name/value pairs. This [16:25:53] means we don't use parts of the metadata in attributes anymore, something that [16:25:53] caused invalid XML to be output. For more info on the exact format, see the [16:25:54] mediawiki-api mailing list [16:25:56] * Removed the spaces-to-underscores hack in the XML formatter [16:26:00] vanessa everybode who is registered some days to not stress the servers [16:26:12] 03(FIXED) Metadata with bad attribute names produce invalid XML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17326 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [16:26:17] vanessa but there is not data lost [16:26:46] perfect [16:27:22] vanessa so it doens'T matter [16:29:02] Merlissimo: +incategory doesn't seem to work for me [16:29:34] hello [16:29:56] BFrank do you unterstand german? [16:29:58] hello [16:30:04] !dpl [16:30:04] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [16:30:16] <^demon> RoanKattouw: Didn't even have to merge :D [16:30:22] Nice [16:30:28] nope, not unless I feed it through translater [16:31:15] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia/Archiv/2009/Woche_05#Incategory-Suche [16:31:40] a bug in 1.15 that is fixed on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46558 [16:32:17] anybody here, who can help me with DPL? [16:33:09] <^demon> RoanKattouw: You'll have to redo the ApiQueryImages patch entirely. The file is *nothing* like the patch anymore. I can't even begin to sort it out. [16:33:12] I am running 1.13.2 [16:33:34] ^demon: OK [16:33:39] Merlissimo: what's in $hashedName ? [16:33:55] (used in the function before) [16:34:17] ^demon: In that case I suggest you put the revised patch up on BugZilla and I'll redo ApiQueryImages [16:34:32] <^demon> I need to try and finish two other bits first, but okay :) [16:36:03] vanessa i think you should reenginieer the code youself. i don't like to explain every line [16:36:51] 03(NEW) "Powered by MediaWiki" should be on the left on RTL wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17341 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (mohamed.m.k) [16:37:20] dpl ????????????? [16:37:26] !dpl [16:37:26] --mwbot-- The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see and . [16:37:33] vanessa if you want to know a really security issue: fetch the data on your university WLAN an get the cookies [16:49:41] 03daniel * r46767 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/ (3 files in 2 dirs): secondary builder initialization [16:50:07] RoanKattouw: Can you help me with DPL? [16:51:56] <^demon> BlueNight: "RoanKattouw left the room" [16:52:46] demon: Can you? [16:54:36] <^demon> Never used it, sorry. [17:02:13] 03(mod) Fetching revision history fails without error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11430 (10innocentkiller) [17:11:24] 03(NEW) Log entries deleted with RevisionDelete feature still appear when searching with [[Special:Log]]. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17342 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (conti) [17:14:09] 03(mod) Log entries deleted with RevisionDelete feature still appear when searching with [[Special:Log]]. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17342 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:15:16] yksinaisyyteni: is this you http://norpatti.sarjakuvablogit.com/files/2009/02/yksinaisyys_vari.jpg ? [17:28:40] Hello, do any skin experts know how the page actions get the 'selected' class? [17:30:07] Hrm [17:30:08] porter1, what do you mean "how"? [17:30:15] It's in SkinTemplate.php, I believe. [17:30:19] Apparently, the session save path on my host is not writabl [17:30:45] hmm. i have some weird problem here. I'm trying to use the new midi-lib and upon opening the midi-device my app just crashes with "Fatal Python error: (pygame parachute) Segmentation Fault" [17:30:49] how to debug that? [17:31:02] Well, I was analyzing the for loop that runs through all the actions, bu it isn't assigning selected to antoher theme of mine [17:33:53] Simetrical, thaks, seems I forgot to require it [17:35:16] 03siebrand * r46768 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/util/voctrain/i18n/language.i18n.php: Localisation updates for extension messages from Betawiki [17:36:54] oops, sorry, wrong channel :) [17:38:49] 03siebrand * r46769 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.i18n.php: Remove "offline" from two messages. Unneeded and confusing. [17:58:09] Is there a feature akin to Special:LonelyPages that doesn't count pages that are assigned to categories? [17:59:04] We can't really create a special page for every occasion -- it's what SQL is for. [18:07:11] 03werdna * r46770 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewHistory.php: Add a missing field in SELECT. [18:11:43] hi. I'm trying to do something quite complicated with mediawiki:edittools and charinsert. basically, I'm trying to insert a template into a page, something in the form of {{Templatei | var = | var2 = }} [18:12:16] now that works, and inserts the (empty) template nicely formatted [18:13:11] and thing is, I keep updating my templates, and in order to automate the update process, I try to (re)insert the template with values that already exist in the page [18:14:20] so say I already have that template with var = value, and I initialise a variable in the template page, something like {{#vardefine:_var|{{{var}}}}} [18:14:32] 03malafaya * r46771 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (OmegaWiki/Wikidata.php SpecialLanguages.i18n.php): Page history filter i18n (2 new messages added) [18:14:57] that way, I am able to access that variable in mediawiki:edittools, using {#var:_var}} [18:15:25] the only problem it doesn't get evaluated _inside_ etc ;-; [18:15:30] only outside of it [18:17:10] if I put it within charinsert etc, it gets pasted into the editbox literally as {{#var:_uni}} [18:17:21] any way to escape that and have it evaluated within charinsert? [18:17:39] sorry, as {{#var:_var}}* [18:17:56] 03(FIXED) Autopatrolling on Ukrainian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17223 +comment (10jeluf) [18:18:15] 03(mod) Log entries deleted with RevisionDelete feature still appear when searching with [[Special:Log]]. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17342 (10conti) [18:19:42] I also had problems before escaping
, that's why I use instead [18:19:59] maybe I'd have to convert the entire expression like that [18:20:15] I wonder if it gets evaluated properly then [18:24:13] i need help with dpl [18:24:57] my dpl extension is not working.. [18:26:37] 03yaron * r46772 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/ED_Settings.php: Two new global variables: $edgCacheTable and $edgStringReplacements [18:27:40] 03yaron * r46773 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/ED_ParserFunctions.php: Changed string replacement to use new global variable, $edgStringReplacements [18:28:06] 03yaron * r46774 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/README: New version, 0.3 [18:29:19] 03malafaya * r46775 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (OmegaWiki/SpecialSuggest.php SpecialLanguages.i18n.php): Missing i18n in transaction list [18:38:19] no idea, eh_ [18:38:21] ? [18:40:14] 03(FIXED) Change the name of Pashto Wikipedia to its transcription - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17166 +comment (10jeluf) [18:44:29] 03(FIXED) - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id= +comment (10jeluf) [18:44:37] Hi there, I'm trying to modify an extension but not sure what to do! [18:45:18] 03(mod) Limiting which namespaces can be searched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15018 +comment (10daniel.remeseiro) [18:45:50] I'll give details if you want... [18:47:06] i need help with dpl [18:47:16] I need help with Maintenance extension, modifying it [18:47:48] !maintenance [18:47:48] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "maintenance". You might try: !adminsettings !createandpromote !shell [18:48:04] !shell [18:48:04] --mwbot-- Shell access (that is, SSH access, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH) is highly recommended if you want to run MediaWiki. You can install without it, and basic operation will work, but even creating backups or upgrading will be painful without it. Some more involved maintenance tasks may even be impossible. MediaWiki is not designed for minimal environments. [18:48:10] the extension is Extension:Maintenance [18:48:17] 03werdna * r46776 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: Fix tester for titles which don't seem to work properly. [18:50:16] I need help modifying this [18:53:14] 03(FIXED) Provide variable for customizing time zone description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5832 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [18:53:41] 03(FIXED) New logo for hr.wikibooks (Croatian) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17040 +comment (10jeluf) [18:54:30] OK, anyone able to help? [18:54:44] 03(mod) Enable Transwiki between en.wikibooks and Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17022 +comment (10jeluf) [18:54:48] 03siebrand * r46777 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Add optional [18:56:10] 03(FIXED) Importing to arz.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17017 +comment (10jeluf) [18:56:58] 03raymond * r46778 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (3 files): Move leading whitespaces from messages to code. [19:00:07] CAN ANYONE Help? [19:01:11] ChryslerFan1986, try giving people more information than you need help modifying it [19:02:31] ChryslerFan1986: We will answer only COMPLETE questions. [19:02:32] Reedy, I am trying to add the maintenance script addwiki.php to extension:maintenance [19:02:36] You have to ask the whole question. [19:02:52] 03(FIXED) Addition of WP: "short" namespace to the Simple English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16998 +comment (10jeluf) [19:03:16] werdnum, basically, I am trying to add addwiki.php to Maintenance_body.php in Extension:Maintenance and add CommonSettings.php for all my wikis [19:05:25] is that ok [19:06:10] RoanKattouw: al weer een beetje zekerder dat ik naar berlijn ga. [19:06:23] dan zou het iets van vrijdagavond laat wegrijden zijn. [19:06:24] 03(mod) Setup Rollback and Patroller, two user groups at zh.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16988 +comment (10jeluf) [19:06:38] RoanKattouw: heb jij een rijbewijs? [19:08:04] 14(DUP) Make Timezone settings a global preference for unified accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16986 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [19:08:05] 03(mod) Global preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14950 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [19:15:04] 03(FIXED) Namespace corrections at Sanskrit language wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16945 +comment (10jeluf) [19:15:23] how can I use javascript in a new special page that I'm writing? [19:17:01] 03(FIXED) request for activation of import functionnality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16938 +comment (10jeluf) [19:27:30] more specifically, how can I call addOnloadHook() from a new special page that I'm writing? [19:28:51] 03(mod) Create proofread page namespaces on Polish Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16926 +comment (10jeluf) [19:29:33] zack1: addInlineScript( $myJavascript ); [19:35:10] 03(FIXED) Namespace for Egyptian Arabic wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16918 +comment (10jeluf) [19:37:15] werdnum: thanks, that seems to have worked. Now how do I specify a function? [19:37:36] zack1: Just by adding an addOnloadHook() call within the JS. [19:38:35] 03(mod) Implement the Interlanguage extension in Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15607 (10smolensk) [19:42:19] hi [19:42:53] can include the last Add article title in another page outer mediawiki directory? [19:43:42] if that possible!? [19:47:05] 14(INVALID) Change logo for Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia (arz.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16903 +comment (10jeluf) [19:53:43] 14(INVALID) Request to switch over logo for sanskrit language wikipedia localisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16857 +comment (10jeluf) [19:55:16] 03(mod) Change logo for Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia (arz.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16903 +comment (10jeluf) [19:55:17] 03(mod) Logo for Wikipedia Masry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16776 +comment (10jeluf) [19:55:57] siebrand: Ah mooi [19:56:00] 14(INVALID) Logo for Wikipedia Masry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16776 +comment (10jeluf) [19:56:01] siebrand: Nee, nog niet [19:56:37] siebrand: Er is trouwens ook een chapter meeting, dus twee (nog te beslissen) leden van het kersverse bestuur gaan ook en willen misschien ook wel mee [20:02:40] 03werdna * r46779 10/trunk/extensions/TorBlock/ (TorBlock.class.php TorBlock.php): Make tor change tagging optional. [20:11:14] 03dale * r46780 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/maintenance/ (metavid2mvWiki.inc.php video_ocr_thumb_insert.php): maintenance update [20:12:12] or can i list the Categories in Start_Page? [20:18:42] also another question, is any way to allow discussion for registred user in wiki like Comments? [20:27:44] wondering if someone could help me out for a moment.. i've setup the latest verison of mediawiki, been trying to install FCK editor, followed the oficial tutorials, etc, apparently its all running without any error output, although when i goto edit the page, firefox asks me to download index.php and it doesnt show the editor.... would anyone have any ideas? [20:44:03] would anyone have any ideas? [20:45:37] mvsn: check your preferences [20:45:47] are you logged in? [20:46:13] yes im logged in.. i did check the preferences... i tried different variations like starting disabled, etc, etc [20:46:38] i cleared the cache as well, just still asks me to download index.php [20:46:41] click editing in your preferences [20:46:57] ok [20:47:58] i have enable section editing enabled, by right clicking on section titles enabled, show edit toolbar, show preview before edit box, and use external editor by default enabled [20:48:29] uncheck use external editor by default enabled [20:49:59] okay so I unchecked it, I can edit the page, but I dont see the FCK editor, or an option to enable it [20:53:01] is it possible to link to a specific page revision? [20:54:56] 03(mod) Please allow sidebar links to be localisable for Wikimania 2009wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17295 (10cbrown1023) [21:00:43] mvsn: not sure about that [21:00:47] jablko: yes [21:03:03] yeah me neither... no errors, just not popping up :/ is there anything else other than FCK that would be good with Mediawiki? [21:05:51] what is the syntax for linking to a specific revision of a page? [21:06:06] for example, page Foo at revision 123 [21:06:23] jablko: well you can use the revision ID [21:06:34] but you can't get, say, the second revision of a page just from the URL [21:06:37] [[123]]? [21:07:38] ^ links to page named 123, not revision 123, i think... [21:08:18] yea [21:08:20] for example [21:08:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brown_Paper_Tickets&oldid=2405992 [21:09:06] that is an old revision of a page [21:09:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=2405992 is the same thing [21:09:17] but the latter only has the revision ID [21:09:32] that is the 2405992th revision on wikipedia [21:09:51] is there any wiki syntax for that? [21:10:06] so i can avoid putting the hostname and path in the link - incase those change? [21:13:48] http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/03/health/research/03behavior.html?_r=1 [21:16:13] 03rotem * r46781 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localization update for he. [21:30:16] hello, anyone can explain how can i use categories? [21:32:51] 03dale * r46782 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fixed previous next links for Stream view [21:34:14] !category | shafu [21:34:14] --mwbot-- shafu: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories [21:38:00] has anyone ever installed WikiEd for Mediawiki? [21:41:02] <[KrusheR]> i have it installed right now [21:42:44] Krusher: cool, i just got it working as well, but find it slow, a tad, Should I download the wikEd.js to my server or use the install code the way it was instructed and it copies it on it own? [21:43:15] <[KrusheR]> i installed as the author says... [21:43:22] <[KrusheR]> it's working fine to me [21:43:43] <[KrusheR]> it's slow on client or on server side? [21:43:58] client side [21:44:14] + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cacycle/wikEd.js' [21:44:14] + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript">'); [21:44:35] for this code see how it points to wikipedia... should it not point to local sever? [21:44:56] <[KrusheR]> it should, but the author recommends not [21:45:37] <[KrusheR]> it loads fast on my wiki... [21:46:00] oh interesting... and im confused a little about the installation... this method intsalls the complete version, although its only for my user... which method would be best to use for site wide but for registered users only? [21:48:25] <[KrusheR]> you may specify a js to load for registered users only [21:48:32] <[KrusheR]> why only to registered ones, btw? [21:49:06] im building an internal wiki for my buddies and I. [21:49:46] i noticed that when i use the code, i edit the page, it works under editing (theme.js) and adding the code, but when i try it in other pages, it doesnt pop up [21:53:03] so i added the code to Mediawiki:Common.js for sitewide installation... but nothing :/ [21:55:01] it only shows up when i goto click on edit on Username/cavendish.js but it doesnt work elsewhere... even though i've setup sitewide [21:56:39] must all time backup the wiki database manuel, or is some option to do it automatic weekly or daily? [21:56:47] !backup [21:56:47] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [21:58:32] Prodego: thanx, is better do it with phpmyadmin :) [22:22:08] if I want to send mail from a new mediawiki install on ubuntu can I just apt-get install postifx or is there a simpler, better package for sending mail? [22:22:55] 03(mod) Send notification to account owner on multiple unsuccessful login attempts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9838 (10tylerromeo) [22:26:15] Simetrical: lets say I set a category for an article..I get this : This category currently contains no pages or media. [22:28:18] eghjaytee: there're simpler packages, but postfix is reliable \o/ [22:34:45] !rar [22:34:45] --mwbot-- rar [22:35:38] ^{{fact}}[[WP:OR]][[WP:POINT]] [22:37:06] 03(mod) Log entries deleted with RevisionDelete feature still appear when searching with [[Special:Log]]. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17342 (10rockmfr) [22:39:21] mmh, pdf preview could not be created because convert is missing. Now I've installed convert - preview image still is grey canvas with black text "/srv/www/bp.foecki.de/bin/ulimit4.sh: line 4: convert: command not found" [22:39:24] is there some cache issue? [22:45:44] 03werdna * r46783 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add a fancy selector for the warning message in the Abuse Filter edit screen, and allow inline previews of the warning messages. [22:50:26] 03rotem * r46784 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: Localization update for he. [22:51:29] Can I add an article in 2 categories? [22:52:40] shafu, yes, just add two category links to it. [22:52:51] [[Category:First cat]] [[Category:Second cat]] [22:54:48] 03werdna * r46785 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (AbuseFilter.i18n.php Views/AbuseFilterViewEdit.php edit.js): Add an edit link too. [22:56:04] Simetrical: thx [23:02:02] hmm, bug 17342... has some odd side effects [23:02:19] http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:APPER&action=edit&redlink=1 [23:02:55] you can reverse-engineer a hidden log sometimes [23:03:43] http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=DerHexer&page=&year=&month=-1 <-- one of these is even oversighted, but you can figure out from this search it was a deletion log entry, by DerHexer [23:14:02] 03rotem * r46786 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: Localization update for he. [23:21:13] 03werdna * r46787 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: Clarify title for history page [23:44:48] 03werdna * r46788 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: Fix up throttling -- was allowing one extra action. [23:57:28] hello ,what is the diffrence between editor and reviewer in flagged revs [23:58:34] !flaggedrevs [23:58:34] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs