[00:00:15] Is there a free Web Server that allows Media Wiki? [00:00:42] do you a free web host that supports MediaWiki? [00:00:56] wikia! [00:01:15] YourWiki! if the wiki is the only thing you want >.> [00:02:45] 03demon * r46884 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 5 dirs): (bug 15283) Interwiki imports should fetch included templates [00:02:55] 03(FIXED) Interwiki imports should fetch included templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15283 summary; +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:04:35] yes, I want only Wiki [00:04:38] Thanks! [00:07:50] domas: I am at their offices. [00:07:56] domas: They have good free food [00:08:00] much better than wmf free food [00:08:48] =) [00:11:03] ...do people donate canned food to WMF in the fundraiser? [00:11:43] ^demon: So, what happens if the templates already exist on the local wiki? [00:14:34] <^demon> Mike_lifeguard: Same thing as if you try to import already-existing revisions: it skips it. [00:14:51] ok... only it doesn't skip it, it does a history merge, I thought [00:15:23] <^demon> It should exhibit the same behavior as what importing on top of an article does. History merge, I suppose. [00:15:39] *nod* [00:15:46] will be highly useful - thanks [00:16:28] <^demon> It's higher-level than the actual import, before the XML is read. The XML parsing of individual articles is lower-level :) [00:18:06] <^demon> Mike_lifeguard: No problem. It's been on my todo list for awhile. Oh, and I'm going to port the option to ApiImport as well. [00:21:13] 03demon * r46885 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiImport.php: Add r46884 (Import templates via interwiki) to API as well. [00:22:55] hawt [00:23:10] *Mike_lifeguard forces ^demon to do more coding on his pet projects! [00:33:43] 03(NEW) link syntax for revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17375 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (ms419) [00:37:18] 03(mod) link syntax for revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17375 +comment (10danny.b) [00:37:47] 03dale * r46886 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (13 files in 7 dirs): [00:37:47] * reorganisation of clip edit lib [00:37:47] * more flexible language init system [00:37:47] * cleaned up core mv_embed a bit [00:37:47] ** moved base Embed lib outside of mv_embed.js [00:42:14] whaswrong with {{fullurl:page name|oldid=123}} ? [00:43:29] i notice mediawiki automatically links http:// ftp:// and irc:// ... but not svn:// ... what's the mediawiki markup to force a link be created for any protocol? [00:43:53] [svn://domain.org/ link] doesn't even work [00:44:03] <^demon> Mike_lifeguard: I've got several :) [00:44:19] !wg UrlProtocols | Jinx [00:44:19] --mwbot-- Jinx: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUrlProtocols [00:44:28] Jinx, do svn URLs actually do anything in browsers? [00:44:39] Simetrical: they can be configured to, yes [00:44:49] other times they open up http pages actually :) [00:44:49] We might want to add that by default, I guess. [00:45:02] ^demon: Who cares about /your/ pet projects?! You should work on mine! :P [00:45:10] I don't know what the policy is for that. There are lots of other things we could do, like ssh:// and stuff. [00:45:32] xmpp:// [00:45:33] is there an array for them in the php? [00:45:41] Jinx, $wgUrlProtocols. [00:45:54] ah heh, hadn't visited the page yet :) [00:45:55] you caught me [00:46:02] anyway, thanks :) [00:46:10] <^demon> Mike_lifeguard: Your pets aren't cuddly :) [00:46:25] mike is cuddly though [00:47:53] *^demon cuddles with Mike_lifeguard [00:48:39] *Simetrical grrs at RELEASE-NOTES conflict [00:48:53] At least we have the different sections now, so there are fewer conflicts. [00:49:12] 03(NEW) Option to suppress attribute links in result tables of #ask - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17376 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (christian.illy) [00:49:50] 03simetrical * r46887 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php): [00:49:51] Treat svn:// URLs as external links by default [00:49:51] By request of Jinx on IRC. We could add boatloads more of these . . . [00:49:51] ssh://, git://, svn+ssh://, probably a lot more. [00:50:19] uh-oh, did i start a slippery slope? heh [00:50:30] just out of curiosity though, would there be any way an end-user could force a link? [00:50:43] No. [00:50:47] *^demon adds mms:// ;-) [00:50:56] Some links are scary and shouldn't be allowed, probably. [00:51:02] i suppose so [00:51:07] Like if they take an action when you click on them. [00:51:15] though it'd be nice if there were like $wgAllowForcedLinks [00:51:18] :) [00:51:24] Brion has removed protocols before on the basis that they do something like "send a message to contact X in my favorite IM program". [00:51:27] yeah i guess one wouldn't want javascript: [00:51:33] Right, that would be bad. [00:51:40] Should we allow data:? :D [00:51:47] (note: no) [00:51:57] haxmeup:// [00:51:59] <^demon> javascript: doesn't work iirc. I thought other sanity checks kept that from working? [00:52:14] Simetrical: data: would be fun, though! [00:52:20] XSS ftw [00:53:53] well, you can add javascript: links with javascript (which is appropriate anyway, since they need no fallback then) [00:54:11] ((and only ever need to show if javascript is enabled)) [00:56:41] werdnum, data:[insert base64 for "redirect to goatse" here] [00:56:55] Or better yet, for "exploit browser vulnerability of some kind". [00:57:05] Can't be XSS, but I'm sure something unpleasant could be arranged. [00:57:38] mmmm [01:03:46] 03dale * r46888 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/libClipEdit/pixastic-lib/ (31 files in 2 dirs): [01:03:46] import of pixastic lib (MIT licensed) [01:03:46] canvas library to support image/video/effects/filters [01:03:46] more about pixastic: http://www.pixastic.com/lib/docs/ [01:07:02] Yaa so I got eAccelerator running on my wiki now, seems to improve performance a bunch [01:07:06] i got some of my CPU back [01:07:41] would anyone mind hitting up www.retardbox.com? let me know if it loads fast? [01:09:55] JimBastard: takes about 4 to 5 seconds to load here [01:10:16] unfortunately thats still a vast improvement....fuck! [01:10:29] 32k hits in about 6 days [01:11:05] any suggestions besides buying another server? maybe I'll get better performance with a different caching engine? maybe I just have to tweak my settings? [01:11:58] which cache are you using? [01:12:20] eAccelerator, I've only been using php for about a week [01:12:30] i use the same [01:12:33] is memcached the better option? [01:12:40] http://chasingsol.com/wiki/Main_Page [01:12:42] try loading that [01:12:48] i think my bottleneck is CPU atm [01:13:08] it should load very quick [01:13:19] it loads fast enough, but are you getting traffic? [01:13:29] JimBastard, do you have MediaWiki configured to use it? [01:14:14] $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ANYTHING; ? [01:14:25] CACHE_ACCEL [01:14:57] $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL; [01:14:58] I'm assuming its working , I saw a pretty good increase in performance. ill switch the cache statement to explicity use accell [01:15:23] JimBastard: is the server a VPS? [01:15:30] no, dedicated [01:15:33] ok [01:15:35] What specs? [01:15:42] kinda shitty, let me double check [01:16:04] 1 gig ram, 2.5 celeron (ugh) [01:16:08] JimBastard: remember, your page load times will be lower anyway because of google and doubleclick [01:16:20] you mean higher? [01:16:26] yeah, that's what i mean [01:16:32] I'm 70% sure my current bottleneck is CPU [01:16:47] too many apache requests to mediawiki and i can see the spikes [01:17:09] A Celeron is going to have a hard time with Apache and MySQL [01:17:12] the wierd thing is that my java application seems to not be experiencing any latency [01:17:28] What's vmstat -Sm 10 say? [01:17:29] well, i've been running mysql + apache for a long time without any issues [01:18:04] It would probably say, you are running windows and suck at life [01:18:08] >.< [01:18:31] I think it might be upgrade time [01:18:35] it's windows? [01:18:40] server 2003 [01:18:45] yeah [01:19:00] I know jack about Windows. [01:19:02] same [01:19:38] well ignoring that aspect, can i tweak my caching to reduce cpu anymore? [01:19:54] having a celeron is killing me [01:20:02] no cpu cache [01:20:13] too many uses of the word cache oofa! [01:22:27] can i use another caching solution concurrently with eAccelator? i need to max out this box while i put together another machine [01:23:44] No, that makes no sense. [01:23:48] You can only use one cache. [01:24:06] For heavy-duty performance, you can use Squid. [01:24:07] I'll tell you what makes no sense friend, a language that doesn't compile into some sort of machine code :-( [01:24:10] A file cache might help a lot. [01:24:17] That's why I love CFML, it compiles to java byte code [01:24:20] for the JVM :-( [01:24:28] What do you suggest for a file cache? [01:24:34] I most certainly agree that Java does not make sense. :) [01:24:36] !filecache [01:24:36] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "filecache". [01:24:40] Er, PHP, not Java. [01:24:42] Java is okay, I've heard. [01:24:45] PHP makes no sense. [01:24:45] hee hee [01:24:46] !file [01:24:46] --mwbot-- http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=`e1&action=diff [01:24:50] ... [01:24:50] Java is the new cobol [01:24:57] !cache [01:24:57] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "cache". You might try: !memcached !purge !refresh [01:25:17] I'm a little upset, I've screwed up my site growth slightly [01:25:19] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:File_cache [01:25:26] !filecache is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:File_cache [01:25:26] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: filecache [01:25:32] JimBastard, ^^ [01:25:37] numbers were increasing everyday until today when the server started to slow, now traffic is platueing [01:25:40] reading now, thanks [01:26:24] That seems kind of flaky. [01:26:25] o wow [01:26:28] The heavy-duty solution is Squid. [01:26:29] is it that simple? [01:26:38] i understand about squid [01:26:40] That might handle cache purging more reliably, from what that page says. [01:26:45] well [01:26:49] ideally [01:26:54] Wikipedia serves >95% of requests just from Squid, I think. [01:26:56] squid would be down the line and not on the php server [01:27:05] Yes, but if you only have one server, it will do. [01:27:26] is turning on file cache really that easy? [01:27:28] for MW [01:27:31] im reading that article [01:27:37] seems like that would greatly help me [01:30:11] i turned it on.... [01:30:38] i do have a random page iframe on the main page though, so im assuming for the file cache to work it has to actually load the page once [01:30:56] so my homepage might stay slow for a little bit [01:38:18] JimBastard, it seems fairly quick now. [01:38:24] As an anon, anyway. [01:38:57] cool [01:39:02] thank you soo much for the advice [01:39:10] everyone here has been really helpful over the past few days [01:39:14] :-) [01:47:04] is it possible to change page content dependent on user pref settings? [01:47:12] Hubble_, generally, no, due to caching. [01:47:27] Unless you code your prefs to fragment the caches. [01:47:34] Which is possible (a bunch of existing prefs do this). [01:48:18] ok it reads the purge message below the pref section. would be no problem imo [01:49:54] easiest would be to use some kind of parser function. #if prefX=1 abc | def [01:50:37] oh i maybe forgot: I want to add that on the page itself not in the core code [01:51:45] I use Extension:NewestPages and include that on the Main Page. Now I want them to be able to use the standard Special:NewPages [02:12:44] Back again. [02:12:50] Need some more help. [02:13:04] This time, it's templates. [02:13:23] 03(FIXED) change in output for MediaWiki:1movedto2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12183 +comment (10c.stafford) [02:13:25] !ask | Zexion [02:13:25] --mwbot-- Zexion: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [02:13:31] Lol. [02:13:42] I knew that, I was just saying. [02:13:51] Okay. [02:14:22] How come when I insert an Infobox template into an article, it says "Template looping detected"? [02:15:19] I can provide a link if necessary. [02:15:43] 03(NEW) update the new zh.Wikibooks logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17377 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (shizhao) [02:16:19] what version of squid should be used for 1.13.3? Will 3 work well? [02:18:23] Whatever version Wikimedia uses. [02:19:01] Hey everyone, i'm having an issue configuring my navigation menu, anyone have the issue where it's not updating, and have resolved it? [02:20:12] Jexl: Have you tried clearing your cache? [02:20:34] Sure have, I even tried it on a different computer and it didn't work [02:20:49] hi, is there any way to store html code in media wiki instead wiki code? [02:21:12] !rawhtml [02:21:12] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "rawhtml". You might try: !html [02:21:16] !html [02:21:16] --mwbot-- For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include , and . [02:22:03] ok thanks ;) [03:02:23] yo antipop [03:02:48] be careful of XSS if you are including HTML inside your wiki [03:03:02] why [03:03:10] my idea is not allowing users to edit it [03:03:34] if you are the only one who has access to editing / creating pages you should be fine [03:03:35] i want to make some machine transaltion of pages that does nt existis in several languages [03:03:53] but the wiki will nto be edited bythe user [03:03:56] ok thanks [03:07:41] Question: How do you successfully insert an Infobox? o.o; [03:08:09] you having issues? do you have the infobox template? is that how that works? [03:10:12] Yeah. [03:10:55] I filled in the template in Template:Infobox_Person, but when I insert it into an article, I get "Template loop detected". [03:12:06] you shouldn't edit the Infobox Person [03:12:28] you should add {{Infobox Person}} to the article and fill in the feilds in the article [03:12:32] eg: [03:12:36] {{Infobox Person [03:12:45] |name = Joe Sombody [03:12:47] }} [03:19:38] 03(mod) "What links here" fails to indicate a redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17270 (10hardy) [03:23:33] damn, even after caching my wiki cant handle this traffic [03:23:38] im pegged at 100% again [03:23:57] something must be wrong, i only have 2 active apache threads [03:38:46] p858snake: I tried that. [03:39:24] All it does is add a link to the template article. [03:39:34] That it's looking for. [03:44:19] http://biophile.co.za/energy/palau-and-pentagon-looking-to-harness-solar-energy-from-space [03:44:24] *AaronSchulz is so excited [03:45:28] #AaronSchulz .excitement {display:none !important;} [03:45:28] and you just can't hide it [03:45:45] woot [03:45:54] finally we can have some Sim City carnage [03:46:13] *Marybelle goes to file a WONTFIX bug. [03:46:34] OverlordQ: ah the good ole microwave powerplant [03:46:40] those were always my favorite [03:47:23] the fission plants tended to blow up a /lot/ [03:47:53] actually, microwave power wouldn't hurt much if it misfired [03:48:17] that's just a simcity trope, just like the nuclear plants in SC4 going atomic when they die :) [03:49:52] 03(NEW) RevisionDelete should have max age variable to hide content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17378 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (public) [03:49:53] *Marybelle sets the WONTFIX timer. [03:50:28] you see why it's the DoD not the DoE doing it, right? [03:50:55] 'cause they've already got things floating in space? [03:51:14] because the costs would be far too high to provide practical power for cities, but they imagine that it could be useful for small mobile army bases [03:51:44] AaronSchulz: that depends [03:51:56] The costs would go down with development, though. [03:52:01] OverlordQ: you don't happen to remember how much power those microwave plants provided, do you? [03:52:16] nope [03:52:35] So I think I might have found the source of my of my cpu issues.....found a legacy service running [03:52:40] that should have been disabled a year ago >.< [03:52:49] TimStarling: yeah, I was thinking about that a few minutes ago [03:53:01] you have to pay $5000 per kg to get the solar panels into orbit [03:53:02] you could power stuff without fuel supply lines [03:53:19] if you were interested in renewable energy, you'd think you'd leave them on the ground [03:53:32] instead of burning massive amounts of hydrazine [03:53:35] TimStarling: well what if you relayed it [03:53:45] could you generate the power on the ground [03:53:50] beam it up, then back down [03:53:52] I prefer hamster power. I think it's the best source of renewable energy. [03:54:02] JimBastard: messy though [03:54:03] There is however; the poop problem. [03:54:05] aye [03:54:07] >.< [03:54:12] :p [03:54:47] not so [03:54:48] biomass [03:55:52] alright, who broke my wiki? [03:56:15] sorry [03:56:19] TimStarling: What? [03:58:02] *p858snake looks at TimStarling then back at werdnum [03:58:12] *AaronSchulz loves using fission power in SC4 [03:58:36] my wiki is slowly breaking :-( need more servers [03:58:48] the only clean *and* semi-affordable option; plus they make a beautiful, ominous hum [03:58:56] im kicking myself for not getting wikimedia to work right on java [03:59:20] vanilla php 5.whatever is terrible >.< [03:59:29] 03(NEW) GENDER function does not work on MediaWiki: Contributions-title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17379 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (rememberthedot) [04:00:56] would anyone mind hitting up www.retardbox.com and let me know how it loads for you speedwise? thanks.... [04:02:54] we should ship crude oil to the moon [04:03:09] JimBastard: Lmao@your wiki. [04:03:37] how bad was the load speed zexion ? [04:03:48] im not pegged at 100% cpu anymore....but still [04:03:58] It's pretty fast. [04:04:01] really? [04:04:09] Mhm. [04:04:17] Like... about a second. [04:04:17] i kinda messed up today badly but not thinking about scaling ahead of time [04:04:21] Or a little less. [04:04:22] i like a lot of traffic [04:04:32] well i guess thats good, it could be dying [04:04:35] visit wise [04:04:39] Hey, JimBastard, could you help me with my wiki? :o [04:04:48] Yours looks uber advanced. [04:04:49] im a major MW noob [04:04:52] lol.... [04:04:58] i wonder if JimBastard knows the meaning of the word retard? [04:05:01] well it has been a learninful 5 days [04:05:10] im not very PC [04:05:18] what you need zexion [04:05:29] Like... how to add templates. o.o; [04:06:11] i think you can just special export / special import [04:06:27] to my understanding adding templates is really easy, its just a bit of markup language [04:06:37] find the template you want (maybe on wikipedia) and copy the code into your own template [04:06:42] I tried that. [04:06:49] i was trying to do it by hand, but i think Special:Export Special:Import is the method [04:06:54] But all I get is "Template loop detected". >> [04:06:58] well [04:07:02] what do you thin kthat means? [04:07:08] are you reffering to the template inside of itself? [04:07:13] Eh? [04:07:16] Wha'? [04:07:24] i dont know how it works [04:07:33] ok, maybe I broke my own wiki [04:07:35] but that error message indicates (to me) you have a infinite lop [04:07:42] I put the code in the template article. [04:07:42] WHO TOUCHED MY WIKI [04:07:54] And tried inserting it into an article. [04:08:03] you probaly did it wrong [04:08:06] 03tstarling * r46889 10/trunk/phase3/ (config/index.php includes/db/DatabasePostgres.php): More installer XSS [04:08:07] o.o [04:08:10] Iunno how. [04:08:30] whatever method you are doing, try variating it [04:08:34] look at other templates and how its done [04:08:45] I referenced it with Wikipedia's. [04:08:48] i still havent quite figured it all out myself [04:09:00] All they did was put in the infobox. [04:09:01] i need all of wikipedias templates, it would be nice if there was a package [04:09:05] at least for the important ones [04:10:16] you can get a database dump if you want... dunno how easy it is to filter out just the templates though [04:11:05] dammit 100% cpu again!! [04:11:06] YARG!!! [04:11:37] :-( [04:15:45] 03(mod) Redirects left behind by page moves not being listed as redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17270 summary (10matthew.britton) [04:15:48] [05-Feb-2009 20:15:09] PHP Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Unable to access C:\retardbox2/cache/7 in C:\retardbox2\includes\HTMLFileCache.php on line 117 [04:15:51] ?!?!!?!??!?!!??!?!?!?!?! [04:15:55] ?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!? [04:16:18] is that hack attempt? or the cache going wonky? [04:16:47] set $wgFileCacheDirectory [04:16:50] seems like directory fail [04:16:51] aye [04:16:58] maybe thats my issue! [04:16:59] $wgFileCacheDirectory = false; ///< defaults to "{$wgUploadDirectory}/cache"; [04:17:26] totally [04:17:29] that makes a lot of sense [04:17:35] cache was failing [04:17:35] hard [04:17:48] probaly looking for files, not finding after a while, and re-rerendering i bet [04:18:37] i switched the "/" to "\" since this is a windows boxen [04:19:13] so its still doing C:\retardbox2\cache/d/d4/BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNS.html [04:19:14] it's not necessary, PHP converts them for you [04:19:20] can i set the cahe to reside in one directory? [04:19:23] really? [04:19:38] so whats up with all these fopen() and mkdir() firing [04:19:54] and errorings [04:19:58] to my php error log [04:20:13] probably permissions [04:20:14] what web server are you running as well? [04:20:16] sorry for the engrish, its been a hard day [04:20:21] apache [04:20:24] oh and server os as well [04:20:24] 2.0 [04:20:29] windows 2003 [04:20:31] server [04:20:50] i dont think fopen(C:\retardbox2\cache/d/d4/BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNS.html) is kosher [04:22:24] well it does have both kinds of back and foward slashes in the url, you should fix that [04:22:51] you mean in the filename? [04:23:03] *filename [04:23:10] it really doesn't matter [04:23:16] I'm a little confused here.....the second half of that cache URL seems to be generated by MW [04:23:22] the only time it matters is if you shell out [04:23:30] which it doesn't do with the file cache [04:23:36] why am i getting warnings for each file? [04:23:43] is that a one time thing while it creates the file? [04:24:55] check if it has created any files or directories [04:25:12] checking [04:25:46] i dont even have a "cache" directory under my MW install root [04:26:11] what's the MW install root? [04:26:19] c:\retardbox2 [04:26:40] what is $wgFileCacheDirectory set to? [04:26:41] im 95% sure its the fucking up pathing [04:27:05] $wgFileCacheDirectory = "$IP\cache"; [04:27:17] is IP no good/ [04:27:20] and the directory doesn't exist? [04:27:29] should i hardcode the path? [04:27:37] that would need to be \\ [04:27:38] no [04:27:46] cache doesnt exist [04:27:54] and im getting TONS of errors in my php log [04:27:58] so create it, and set the permissions to allow everyone to access it [04:27:59] looking for files in the cache [04:28:16] doing that now....shouldnt MW do it automagically? [04:28:19] > print "\c" [04:28:19] \c [04:28:21] red herring [04:28:40] JimBastard: you mean by exploiting some vulnerability in Windows? [04:28:54] escalation to administrator access? [04:28:58] mkdir is an exploit? [04:29:01] >.< [04:29:30] i guess you are right, i do have apache running as not as admin [04:29:42] but it has to be able to create all the subfolders [04:30:50] should i see my cache folder populate with files? [04:31:25] have you set the permissions? [04:31:33] yes [04:31:42] then yes [04:32:11] if you didn't set the permissions properly, then you will see more warnings [04:32:35] thank you for the help, i'm gonna play around for a few minutes and see if i can gather some more information [04:36:21] 03aaron * r46890 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): [04:36:21] * Removed $wgFlaggedRevsBacklog [04:36:21] * Minor permission cleanup [04:36:55] so TimStarling, it seems MW is now creating subfolders in the cache directory [04:37:07] did i mess up and not read something I was suppose to? [04:37:15] in regards to creating the "cache" folder [04:38:14] you mean to say it wasn't "fucking up the pathing"? [04:38:20] also, sorry for the earlier freakout. at a cursory glance the error messages look like someone was executing php functions from javascript [04:38:22] differnt os'es handle things differntly [04:38:28] i guess so, but i still dont think that is kosher [04:38:35] mixing "/" and "\"' [04:38:38] even if it DOES work [04:38:40] but there was only a 5% chance of that [04:38:46] heh [04:38:55] im a five percenter, what can i say? [04:38:56] I guess we've seen a most extraordinary thing today [04:39:01] :-) [04:39:19] i dont think it was completely retarded to think it was pathing fail! but you were right [04:39:35] it's probably not kosher, since \ is meat and / is dairy [04:39:40] but it will most certainly work [04:39:40] normal mentality would tell you not to mix "/" and "\" in one path [04:39:45] PHP is "special" [04:39:46] because as I said, PHP converts it [04:39:54] it's in the manual if you don't believe me [04:39:54] :-p [04:40:00] i believe you [04:40:08] please dont make me read the php manual [04:40:09] please [04:40:32] thanks again for the help, its very apprecaited [04:41:07] no problem [04:41:26] whats up [function.mkdir] ? it looks like that is how the internal cache calls methods? [04:41:38] thats not something a user could write in wiki code is it? [04:42:22] *Zexion thinks that's... Java. o.o [04:42:32] its not java! [04:42:38] *Zexion shrugs. [04:42:49] Kinda reminds me of JS. [04:42:56] java != JS [04:43:07] I fail at codes. >< [04:43:14] its okay we are all slightly retarded [04:43:28] especially me all week [04:43:38] there is a 95% chance JimBastard is a retard [04:43:47] you're meant to set docref_root to the location of the PHP manual [04:43:56] and then those links will work [04:44:13] ohhh shit [04:44:18] of course nobody knows that and the people who know it don't care, so 99% of installations are plain broken [04:44:23] its suppose to be a helpful link [04:44:23] call it a phpism [04:44:38] silly php [04:44:58] http://au.php.net/manual/en/errorfunc.configuration.php#ini.docref-root [04:45:28] You must create the directory and ensure it is writeable (by the php user). This is even true if you leave it as the default (You must create the "images/cache" directory). [04:45:38] reading comprehension fail :-( [04:48:24] so using the built in file cache, is it possible to have logged in users access the cache as well? or is that too problematic? [04:55:01] 03tstarling * r46891 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Backported r46840, r46843, r46889 [05:05:46] 03tstarling * r46892 10/branches/REL1_13/phase3/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Backported r46840, r46843, r46889 (installer XSS fixes) [05:12:59] 03aaron * r46893 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Added precedence dropdown to stablepages [05:26:27] hmm, all pages are failing XHTML [05:26:50] xhtml fail [05:27:33] 03aaron * r46894 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevsXML.php specialpages/StablePages_body.php): Fix label [05:31:58] 03aaron * r46895 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Rename constant alias to be more intuitive [05:32:21] XHTML and Standards validation ftw [05:43:39] 03tstarling * r46896 10/trunk/phase3/config/index.php: Fixed missing quotes in r46840 [05:44:24] 03tstarling * r46897 10/branches/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixed missing quotes in r46840 [05:47:15] 03tstarling * r46898 10/branches/REL1_12/phase3/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Backported r46840, r46843, r46889 (installer XSS fixes) [05:54:02] 03(mod) Provide an interwiki prefix for "Complete list" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16962 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [06:15:25] 03(mod) Provide an interwiki prefix for "Complete list" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16962 (10rememberthedot) [06:26:41] hi everyone [06:27:08] everytime I try to test this pugin http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SVNIntegration [06:27:18] I get this error: [06:27:27] Could not load needed class 'VersionControl_SVN' in path '/var/www/html/newwiki:/var/www/html/newwiki/includes:/var/www/html/newwiki/languages:.:/usr/share/php/PEAR/PEAR:/usr/share/php/PEAR' [06:27:49] can you pls help me out [06:29:25] TimStarling: How does one serialize and unserialize a PPNode_DOM -- just storing it in memcached gives exceptions about an 'Invalid State' [06:29:53] 03tstarling * r46899 10/branches/REL1_6/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Backported r46840, r46843, r46889 (installer XSS fixes) [06:30:31] store the XML, before it's converted to DOM [06:30:56] you will have to change the interface slightly to separate those two stages [06:31:36] Yes, but it won't be too difficult. [06:32:42] The Wikia offices are quite a bit nicer than the Wikimedia ones, incidentally. [06:32:50] Although the number of empty desks was a little depressing. [06:40:03] 03(NEW) Deleted contributions link should be red if user has no deleted contribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17380 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (public) [06:41:47] I have two wikis... is there an easy way to migrate individual pages from one to the other? [06:43:59] [[Special:Export]] and [[Special:Import]] maybe? [06:47:00] Copy and paste? [06:47:44] copying and pasting is evil >.> [06:49:02] Copying and pasting gets shit done. [06:49:48] Copying and pasting is what I'm trying to avoid [06:50:12] it'd be nice to not have to re-upload the associated images to the new wiki, which C&P would require [06:50:28] does Special:Export export the images on the page? [06:50:48] Marybelle: maybe but it dosn't copy the needed templates and such as well [06:50:52] Heron: not afaik [06:50:57] hmm [06:51:04] but it does the page history and any templates used ^.^ [06:51:07] p858snake: Either does Special:Export... [06:51:10] oic [06:51:15] lol [06:51:20] does it or doesn't it? [06:51:29] You'll have to specify the template names. [06:51:36] There's no checkbox or anything. [06:51:49] At least not since I last used it. [06:51:56] hmm [06:52:01] 03tstarling * r46900 10/branches/REL1_10/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql: Fixed broken comment, breaks upgradeTest.py. [06:52:09] Marybelle: "Include templates" [06:52:12] Actually, just depends what version you're running. [06:52:22] Wikimedia's copy has a templates option. [06:52:28] hmm [06:52:41] p858snake: You're a template. [06:52:50] "Full history exports are limited to 1000 revisions" Marybelle: of gods creation [06:53:03] Not if the page has fewer than 1,000 revisions. [06:53:12] Heh. [06:53:28] i'm not a church/religion person >.> [06:53:37] 03(mod) Enable Special:Nuke on pl.wikipedia - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15927 +comment (10xarak) [06:54:05] now if I include templates, and I import the page into the other wiki, will the templates be imported as templates, or will they be imported as part of the page? [06:54:51] as templates [06:55:19] and if I import multiple pages that use the same template, I assume it will properly re-use templates instead of creating extra copies of them? [06:55:34] but if those templates require another template (Eg: a "meta" template) they won't be bought over and you will have to specify it in the export [06:55:36] 03tstarling * r46901 10/branches/REL1_5/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql: Another fix for broken comment parsing in some MySQL version. [06:55:42] yes it will reuse it [06:55:44] ok [06:55:52] but I'd have to do the images manually [06:56:01] or rather, separately [06:57:07] I don't suppose there would be a way to export and import pages from the command line? [07:07:55] werdnum: PING! r46680 broke editing on translatewiki.net in protected namespaces. [07:08:24] siebrand: :( [07:08:26] let me have a look [07:08:37] werdnum: I cannot assess if this was caused by our extension, or if there is something fundamentally wrong with the change you made. [07:08:55] siebrand: ?? [07:08:59] werdnum: luckily you are here, otherwise I think I would have reverted. [07:09:00] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46680 [07:09:19] 46880 [07:09:32] werdnum: yes, that one. [07:09:38] what's the symptom? [07:09:47] werdnum: edit access denied [07:09:56] werdnum: svn up -r46879 Title.php fixed it. [07:10:26] AaronSchulz: why are you marking all your own commits "ok"? [07:10:39] that's not for you to decide [07:10:45] all? [07:10:50] just the flaggedrevs ones [07:11:01] which brion otherwise marks as "deferred" [07:11:28] I don't get it [07:11:38] why are you marking them OK? [07:12:24] siebrand: What's the exact error message? [07:13:04] werdnum: I gave more priority to fixing the issue. IIRC "you do not have rights to edit this page" [07:13:17] let me see if I can replicate it [07:13:24] is it because you think "ok" is more accurate than "deferred" for some reason? [07:13:43] werdnum: lemme repro it for a second. HAVE to go to work. [07:13:49] siebrand: don't worry [07:13:53] I'll reproduce it for myself [07:14:14] IMO since FlaggedRevs is live, it shouldn't have its commits deferred. [07:14:34] But the 'ok' flag, IMO, should only be set by Tim or Brion [07:14:54] werdnum: You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: [07:14:54] You are not allowed to execute the action you have requested. [07:15:01] werdnum: that was on http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Stablepages-prec-none/tl&action=edit&loadgroup=ext-0-all&uselang=en [07:15:34] werdnum: and I am bureaucrat, sysop, translate, staff, whatever on translatewiki.net [07:15:37] Okay, I can reproduce [07:15:49] Will look into it, thanks very much for the report. [07:16:06] werdnum: please don't break it like this too often :) [07:16:56] siebrand: Sorry :) It seems that I missed a bit of code to copy up [07:17:18] 03(NEW) Image of higher resolution isn't shown when available - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17381 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (yuri) [07:18:01] I'm going to change them all back [07:19:09] if you think of a reason why I shouldn't in the next few minutes, do let me know [07:24:22] 03werdna * r46902 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Fix for r46880 -- didn't take into account that the action does not always correspond directly to the required permission. [07:30:30] moin [07:30:36] hi [08:36:43] Can anyone help with File caching if you ahve any experience with that? I am on a shared host so file caching seems to be the only option. I read the manual at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File_cache It seems to suggest that all i have to do is set the 3 variables $wgUseFileCache, $wgFileCacheDirectory and $wgShowIPinHeader [08:36:56] I did all 3 things and no caching seems to happen. [08:38:22] What am I missing? [08:40:48] how do you know no caching is happening? [08:41:15] Is it possible to secure a wiki so that only accounts with permission can access the information? I have never encountered a private wiki so I'm unsure. [08:42:08] IceGuest_75: yes [08:42:53] Thank You for your help [08:45:00] Nikerabbit: There are no files created in the cache directory [08:45:21] make sure the permissions are correct and somebody is using the wiki [08:45:33] I am testing on my localhost [08:45:45] aye, also filecache wont use cache for logged in users [08:45:52] at leasts that what it says [08:46:14] good point - but i am not logged in [08:46:34] try the php log file [08:46:43] you may have a cookie still [08:46:46] does $wgMainCacheType matter? [08:46:46] that told me where my cache was failing, improper permissions and directory [08:46:57] thats not for file cache i think [08:47:11] im kinda a noob though [08:47:50] aha! [08:47:53] it started working [08:48:02] thanks so much guys - you rock! [08:48:27] it creates lots of directories within the cache directory [08:48:27] logged in fail? [08:48:41] i think it was the clearing of the cookie that did it [08:48:46] yeah [08:48:48] even though i was not logged in [08:48:54] i dont understand why the internal file caching works like that [08:49:04] they recommend using an http cache [08:49:12] instead of the internal file cache...i think [08:49:45] the internal file caching looks kinda half ass to me imho, but in all fairness i havent had a lot of time to look through it [08:49:58] i am on a shared host and they shut down my site today bcoz of CPU usage [08:50:10] ahahah....yeah i got slammed too [08:50:13] busy day on the internet [08:50:22] so i guess the quickest way for me to do something would be file cache [08:50:34] aye thats what i did [08:50:43] i hate it when they just shut it down without giving you some notice [08:50:47] and i used the accelator thingy for php [08:50:50] a phone call would have been nice :) [08:51:01] shared hosting? you lucky if you got an email [08:51:12] they say APC is better than accelerator [08:51:23] if it was godaddy they would probably just disconnect the account [08:51:28] uh? [08:51:29] APC + memcache [08:51:47] godaddy will drop a customer if they call support too many times [08:51:48] I'd switch hosting if they just shut off me, especially if they haven't installed any memory cache [08:52:27] it's too cheap and i'm too cheap and i've paid until 2010 :) [08:53:12] so the cached files are HTML only - no CSS [08:53:28] partial html to be exact [08:53:32] and only for anonymous [08:54:09] but it will work, right? [08:54:24] i mean..i open the file on my local machine and it's not formatted [08:54:31] but i guess for a user it will be [08:54:41] coz all the html is there - it will load everything [08:55:01] Jim - how long did it take for you to set up accelerator caching on mediawiki? [08:55:22] APC failed because i couldnt find a binary and wasnt gonna compile, one hour [08:55:28] turning on accealtor took about 10 minutes [08:55:31] worked first try [08:55:37] one setting in LocalSettings.php [08:55:43] one binary to load in php.ini [08:55:51] same with APC though [08:55:53] i just failed at it [08:56:08] one hour what? [08:56:13] failing [08:56:22] with a binary that looked good but wasnt loading [08:56:26] and since ive never used php [08:56:33] it took me a while to figure out what was going on [08:57:06] so you need access to php.ini [08:57:19] that's a catch for me...on shared hosting [08:57:30] they say Zend_Cache may not be a bad idea either [08:57:42] really, any of those will do [08:58:00] they are all great bandaids [08:58:02] >.< [08:58:25] :) [08:58:51] jazz: not a bandaids, a must for broken by design php :o [08:58:58] How do you know whether APC is installed or not? Any special markers on phpinfo? [08:59:11] should be some [08:59:18] and the extension tells you too [08:59:29] ctrl-f didnt show anything so i guess its not installed [09:00:20] not enabled, then [09:00:23] or not installed [09:08:09] OK - so I'm testing the cache and it looks like the cached file is not really being used. Do you think it has something to do with the epoch? I have'nt changed anything in this line $wgCacheEpoch = max( $wgCacheEpoch, $configdate ); [09:08:48] My wiki has some customization - it shows some extra text other than the article content. This extra stuff is dynamically loaded from the DB [09:09:27] if caching was being handled correctly, this other dynamic stuff wouldn't have changed...but it refreshes when i make a change in the db [09:10:38] every time i request a page, the cache file is rewritten [09:15:30] hmm [09:15:43] Duesentrieb: does file cache cache full html or only page content? [09:17:32] It is caching the full content in a .html file in the cache directory [10:11:06] can anyone tell me which database i would need so that i could just view which ip addresses had edited pages? [10:14:20] 03ialex * r46903 10/branches/new-installer/phase3/includes/installer/PostgresInstaller.php: Fix PostgreSQL installer so that it works properly [10:16:15] waste of time! [10:16:36] AndrewMohawk: we told you, recentchanges/revision [10:17:04] domas: what's the waste of time? :) [10:17:12] postgresql installer! [10:18:57] 03ialex * r46904 10/trunk/extensions/ (32 files in 5 dirs): svn:eol-style native [10:23:38] domas: thanks, just checking :P what db is recent changes in? [10:25:47] 03aaron * r46905 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: [10:25:47] * Improve handling if $wgFlaggedRevValues isn't set [10:25:47] * Improve cache usage wrt sync checks [10:26:03] 03catrope * r46906 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiImport.php: Fix fatal error in r46885 (add templates parameter to action=import): add missing comma [10:31:10] AndrewMohawk: your wiki's database [10:33:13] 03aaron * r46907 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: delete inconsistent sync cache keys [10:33:22] ialex: sorry for not specifying, i mean i want to pull en.wikipedia's db for this, i have "enwiki-latest-pages-articles.xml" which when taken from xml2sql produces "revisions.txt" im just wondering if that also has the recentchanges table in [10:34:34] AndrewMohawk: ah, don't think so [10:34:53] do you know which tgz i'd need for that table? [10:35:12] users IPs are private information (for registred users) [10:35:34] ialex: im okay with just reviewing the "anonymous" edits [10:35:53] rev_user_text in revision table [10:36:07] holds the ip addresses? [10:36:22] for anonymous users, yes [10:36:44] now i just need to wait for the imports in that case [10:36:56] ialex: i hope the registered users IPs are not stored somewhere in the db [10:37:43] AndrewMohawk: they are in recentchanges and cu_changes [10:38:05] recentchanges is kept for one month and cu_changes three months [10:38:52] (on wikimedia wikis) [10:41:48] ialex: anyway to get changes before that [10:42:57] and which file will contain the information that i need? will it be within "enwiki-latest-pages-articles.xml" ? [10:52:32] the wikimedia released dumps (eg: en wiki) will not contain registered user ips [10:52:48] or any user data iirc [10:55:39] hmm, i didnt realise that [10:55:50] so if your changes last a month they cant see who did them [10:56:15] it will have usernames and such but thats it [10:56:15] 03ialex * r46908 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (4 files): Added support for PostgreSQL when using database handler [10:57:09] p858snake: essentially i just want to correllate what changes our IP addresses have made [10:57:19] which means im going to have to start keeping the data [10:57:34] 03aaron * r46909 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ReaderFeedback_body.php: Avoid timestamp regeneration; just do it once and store it to a var [10:59:18] unless you know of another way p858snake? [11:05:51] 03aaron * r46910 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ReaderFeedback_body.php: Use addQuotes() [11:38:39] so .. i got everything working in mediawiki ... all i need now is to put in smtp info and username/pass .. my question is .. anyone know a email service i can use ? [11:38:51] 06(LATER) REQ: Output database queries as XML for AJAX apps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17336 +comment (10djnrrd) [11:38:51] i cant use gmail .. as TLS isn't supported [11:39:26] are you running mediawiki on a server or your desktop? [11:39:34] server [11:39:36] win2003 [11:39:38] windows or unix? [11:39:40] hmm [11:39:48] for unix it's easy, but i'm not sure what people usually do for windows [11:39:56] ok [11:40:06] what for unix ? [11:40:11] squirrel or what [11:40:12] use the local mail server [11:40:20] (all unix systems have a local MTA; windows tends not to) [11:40:33] ok [11:41:05] dumb windows system.. [11:51:48] 03rotem * r46911 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he. [12:14:55] TimStarling: who does software updates for bugzilla? You or Brion? [12:15:22] TimStarling: do not know which version we are running, but see http://www.bugzilla.org/security/3.0.7/ [12:16:28] authentication failure [SMTP: Invalid response code received from server (code: 535, response: 5.7.3 Authentication unsuccessful.)] <-- getting this error after i've made a user, and i simply cant find the error in the localsettings.php [12:18:01] siebrand: on our internal radar already, should get poked soon :) [12:18:34] brion: excellent. Haven't been able to find which version it is running... [12:19:02] brion: ow, you're in Europe, I guess. Welcome to jetlag land :) [12:19:18] yay [12:19:21] http://leuksman.com/log/2009/02/06/netbook-trial-by-fosdem/ [12:19:38] i dont even know what day it is! it was thursday when i started [12:20:16] brion: most definitely Friday 13:20 :) [12:21:20] Hi. After about two-three weeks, I have updated my local wiki running on HEAD revision. I also ran update.php to make the wiki work with the new changes. Now, when I try to move a page with my sysop+bureaucrat account, I get a badaccess-group0 (You are not allowed to execute the action you have requested)... I wonder why! [12:21:20] The wiki runs on default settings .. so a sysop should have move permission .. :/ [12:21:40] :S [12:22:00] Hojjat: update a little further. [12:22:13] how?! [12:22:48] Hojjat: stuff was broken in Title.php in r46880, fixed in r46902. Please confirm the version you are running. [12:23:08] 46910 [12:23:22] Hojjat: ok, trying to reproduce. [12:23:36] :) [12:24:06] Hojjat: confirmed. I'm going to revert, unless brion want to fix it now :) [12:24:17] :p [12:27:29] Hojjat: update and try again. [12:27:30] 03siebrand * r46912 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Revert r46880, r46902. After issues with editing rights for pages in r46880, there are issues with moving pages in r46902. Repored by Hojjat, confirmed by me. [12:27:45] well, I reverted my local copy, and things were fixed [12:27:47] thanks [12:28:14] Hojjat: works again in r46912 [12:28:26] yep [12:28:29] thanks man [12:28:52] siebrand: watch your pm [12:45:10] hello how can I write a pipe sigh in a table [12:45:36] because the pipe sighn is for dividing the cells [12:45:52] create a template called Template:! with content | and use {{!}} in the table for pipes [12:46:26] thanks [12:52:19] MinuteElectron, but it doesn't work :( [12:52:46] it shows mr the "!" [12:53:21] do you have this on a publicly accessible server where we can look? [12:54:10] I have alook to do it on a public server [12:54:40] 03(mod) link syntax for revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17375 +comment (10huji.huji) [12:58:28] p858snake, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Mechtilde/Test [13:00:43] it seems to be alittle be different to the version I use local [13:07:21] use | for tables [13:10:58] p858snake, thanks this works [13:21:26] 03philip * r46913 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [13:21:26] 1. Namespace translation for Chinese Language. [13:21:26] 2. New function to convert namespace text for display. (only applies on wiki with LanguageConverter class) [13:37:58] Hello [13:38:31] 03malafaya * r46914 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/includes/api/ (ApiWikiData.php ApiWikiDataFormatXml.php): [13:38:31] Adapting for trunk; also works on branch: [13:38:31] * ApiFormatBase public methods must be public in derived classes too [13:52:35] pls how to create infoboxes ie on top right of a page? [13:53:10] Is there a skin and css class in default install or do i need an extension [13:53:35] I want semantic MW data shown btw [14:09:56] Question: I have one page on my wiki that the black border around the default theme (monobook) doesn't have a solid line, anyone experience what causes this? I've seen it other places. I can provide a screenshot if it's any help to understand what I'm talking about. [14:13:21] - echo "
  • Connected to memcached on $host:$port successfully"; [14:13:21] + echo "
  • Connected to memcached on " . htmlspecialchars( "$host:$port" ) ." successfully
    • "; [14:13:33] That doesn't look exploitable. [14:13:42] Unless $host isn't what I think it is. [14:13:47] Well, it makes no difference, paranoia is good. [14:14:00] This taint stuff is fun. [14:14:31] Simetrical: iirc there's a wf* function that does htmlspecialchars equivalent without sucking:) [14:15:34] avar, if there is, we don't use it. :) [14:16:07] I think there's some Xml function. [14:17:12] TimStarling, could you ask Remember the dot if he wants commit access (if you think he should get it)? He's gotten plenty of patches accepted but doesn't want to ask for commit access unless it's offered, so he keeps bugging people to review his patches all the time. [14:18:29] TimStarling, also, I forgot, how about that ABC extension? You complained that we aren't persistent enough when asking for things like that, so I'm going to have to remember to bother you some more about it. [14:21:18] Biny3, I seen it on wikipedia [14:21:30] no idea why it happens [14:21:34] seems inconsistent [14:21:47] alrighty! I thought it was some stray html ending tag somewhere but didn't find any [14:21:58] like if you leave without a
    it breaks the header [14:25:41] 03(NEW) Error when saving page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17382 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (dasch_87) [14:28:56] One last question (probably not right channel, again) -- wikiEd - Find/Replace function, anyone know how to make this work properly? I can find all instances of something, but when I hit replace all, it only does one at a tim regardless of selection. [14:29:05] 03(mod) Error when saving page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17382 (10dasch_87) [14:30:26] 03(FIXED) Error with new SMW 1.4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16220 (10dasch_87) [14:32:40] 03(mod) Deleted contributions link should be red if user has no deleted contribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17380 +comment (10innocentkiller) [14:32:46] <^demon> Marybelle: ^^^ [14:35:30] 03aaron * r46915 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Move cascade below page_restrictions check [14:36:15] 03(mod) Image of higher resolution isn't shown when available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17381 +comment (10innocentkiller) [14:41:08] 03demon * r46916 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (bug 17379) GENDER now works with Contributions-title [14:41:29] 03(FIXED) GENDER function does not work on MediaWiki:Contributions-title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17379 +comment (10innocentkiller) [14:43:03] 03aaron * r46917 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryLogEvents.php: Hide title if DELETED_ACTION is on, but don't worry about type/action, which isn't what we're worried about [14:43:23] 03mkroetzsch * r46918 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/SMW_setup.php: undefined variable in some cases, fixed [14:44:44] 03mkroetzsch * r46919 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/SMW_setup.php: typo [14:49:16] 03(NEW) Can not discuss or edit International Longshoreman' s Alliance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17383 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (number6-2) [14:50:24] <^demon> wtf? [14:53:36] 03(mod) Can not discuss or edit International Longshoreman's Alliance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17383 +comment (10Platonides) [14:55:52] 03mkroetzsch * r46920 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [14:55:52] added code for PostgresQL support (and moved some generic SQL helpers to their own file), based on contributions by Marcel Gsteiger [14:55:52] + fixed Bug 17382. [14:56:10] 03(FIXED) Error when saving page - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17382 (10markus) [15:02:25] 03(mod) Can not discuss or edit International Longshoreman's Alliance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17383 +comment (10innocentkiller) [15:02:45] <^demon> Platonides: WFM. Its most likely a block I think :) [15:09:33] Any idea how far away 1.14 is? [15:10:58] 03siebrand * r46921 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Make 'nosuchactiontext' more correct. [15:11:02] ^demon, probably [15:11:07] WFM too [15:18:20] 03mkroetzsch * r46922 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_Description.php: getTypeID() should now be getPropertyTypeID() [15:18:42] 03(mod) $wgSharedDB PostgreSQL support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16794 +comment (10greg) [15:23:05] 03mkroetzsch * r46923 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_RAPStore2.php: remove obsolete code [15:59:58] 03mkroetzsch * r46924 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/maintenance/SMW_refreshData.php: parameter to refreh data for fixed (list of) page name(s), incorporating a feature request from Jie Bao [16:04:22] 03(NEW) Language fallback should also work for customized messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17384 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (paul.copperman) [16:11:25] 03mkroetzsch * r46925 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (INSTALL README RELEASE-NOTES): updated changelog, contributors, install for upcoming minor release [16:18:27] 03jojo * r46926 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: do not force NS_MAIN for articles on saved book pages [16:26:24] 03purodha * r46927 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserGifts/UserGifts.i18n.php: Wrong capitalizations, and "click here" in messages corrected. [16:27:11] 03(NEW) Namespace localisation broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17385 04CRIT; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (dasch_87) [16:49:37] I try to use the same query of Special:Newpages in an extension but get double titles. I call all titles from recentchanges, order and limit them. But how does Special:Newpages get rid of the double titles (from later edits etc)? Do I need a subselect or is a smarter way? [16:51:36] *subselect like SELECT MIN(rc_id) [17:00:59] please to answer following question; how many people contribute to wikipedia? [17:01:35] depends on how you define active users [17:01:49] I remember reading a paper about this, but I forgot the title [17:02:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics [17:02:52] it was something like "the rise of the bourgeoisie" or "the wisdom of the crowd vs. the cool of the elite" or summut. [17:03:02] Active users (Users who have performed an action in the last 30 days) 162,441 [17:03:12] cool [17:03:38] <^demon> Excluding bots. [17:04:00] <^demon> So total unique users who have done something in the last 30 days as long as they're not a bot. [17:04:08] got it ... http://www.parc.com/research/publications/details.php?id=5904 [17:04:17] Power of the few vs. wisdom of the crowd: Wikipedia and the rise of the bourgeoisie [17:04:18] Average edits per page 17.88 HUH? [17:04:30] ah ok per page [17:04:33] average edits per page edited? [17:04:40] hmm... [17:04:58] 03rotem * r46928 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update. [17:05:00] thats a nice paper [17:05:03] i misunderstood read per day [17:05:08] oh [17:05:39] as of December 2004, 2.5% of [17:05:39] the registered users on the site made half of the edits [15]. [17:06:07] I guess I'm in the wrong channel :D [17:06:18] yep. mainly wp is driven by the heavy addicts [17:06:47] <^demon> faceface: For stats on the english wikipedia, try #wikipedia-en :) [17:06:53] ty [17:06:59] Hubble_: not according to that paper [17:07:22] it says that the influence of teh addics, although very important early on, is declining. [17:07:26] that's what the 2,5% stat says. only a few users made half of the edits [17:07:38] sure, but that was 04 [17:07:40] Hubble_: yeah, and that statistic is only 4 years old... [17:08:05] it still is that way? [17:08:14] how do you know? is there a more recent statistic? [17:08:21] no [17:08:26] not according to that paper [17:08:47] read facts like that in recent discussions [17:09:05] "facts" or something someone made up because they think it's true? [17:09:06] please to citations find? [17:09:22] nothing to quote but i'm sure still only a few make most of the edits [17:09:23] verify me baby! [17:09:45] you shouldn't quote user discussions ;) [17:09:46] Hubble_: that is a reasonable thing to think, but that is exactly the point that this paper disproves ;-) [17:10:02] they make exactly the opposite claim. [17:10:15] false imo. [17:10:15] 14(WFM) Factbox does not show in SMW 1.4.1 running on MW 1.13.3 - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17023 +comment (10markus) [17:10:23] still, its true that there is a large number of users who make a large number of edits [17:10:39] Hubble_: I'm probably not representing their claims clearly. [17:10:46] of course it looks better to say the whole community makes wp what it is, but in the end most work is done by a few [17:11:03] Hubble_: they are not making such 'sounds good' claims [17:11:09] they do a good study imho [17:11:49] you are right, there are 'elite' users, but the point they make is that there are so many casual users that the total number of edits outweighs the elite users in recent years. [17:12:16] <^demon> faceface: [[Wikipedia:Editing_frequency]] might be of some user. As would the stuff in [[Category:Wikipedia statistics]] [17:12:26] tyty [17:13:34] ok anyone knows how Special:NewPages gets rid of the double title listing of the recentchangestable? [17:13:52] <^demon> Hubble: I can't really find where NewPages is constructing its query... [17:14:27] that's my problem as well. it uses the mw way to query which i hate [17:14:34] I try to use the same query of Special:Newpages in an extension but get double titles. I call all titles from recentchanges, order and limit them. But how does Special:Newpages get rid of the double titles (from later edits etc)? Do I need a subselect like SELECT MIN(rc_id) or is there a smarter way? [17:15:00] in that extension i can do a real query though [17:15:44] I wanted to put this on my groups wiki... "Using a wiki couldn't be much simpler. Over one hundred thousand people contributed to Wikipedia last month [1], are you really dumber than all them?" - snigger [17:16:10] <^demon> Hubble_: The MW way to query? You mean not directly writing out "SELECT * FROM....." [17:16:11] <^demon> ? [17:16:35] yep. can't even switch the order that way :D [17:16:57] <^demon> We need less hand-written queries, as those are weak points in getting non-mySQL to work :) [17:19:19] I run this query atm http://rafb.net/p/hKs9FX74.html [17:20:21] but am I right that subqueries make the query very slow? [17:22:01] <^demon> yes, mysql doesn't play nice with them :) [17:22:51] so i bet special:newpage3s uses a more smarter way. [17:24:09] <^demon> Ah-ha, I got it :) [17:24:49] <^demon> Did you try an inner join on page_id=rc_cur_id? [17:25:08] i need to touch the page table? [17:25:24] <^demon> It's an inner join between recentchanges and page. [17:25:50] <^demon> I guess you *could* try a select unique on rc_title. Or you could just join against page. [17:25:53] ok tryin :) [17:26:38] damn i have overseen rc_cur_id. thought the title is the only thing both tables have in common [17:27:26] <^demon> :) [17:27:29] 03mkroetzsch * r46929 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_URI.php: [17:27:29] fixed storing of URLs so that they always come out the way they went in; prevent over-escaping of some symbols when escaping a whole URL-string, [17:27:29] properly check whether protocol supports linking when retrieving values from database [17:29:11] 03mkroetzsch * r46930 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_URI.php: typo [17:33:30] hmh. still doubles using http://rafb.net/p/iUOWF317.html [17:35:21] <^demon> Dunno :-\ [17:36:34] K, thanks for the hint. tryin' [17:38:33] 3/win 12 [17:39:15] FCKEditor will allow you to more easily identify and link to existing articles while composing/editing an article. Anyone know of any other extension that offers that capability? I don't see it in WikEd and haven't found it elsewhere [17:41:30] Hello. [17:42:37] How do I change my configuration so http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Wikipedia:Something makes a a http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something ? [17:43:01] How do I change my configuration so [ [Wikipedia:Something]] makes a a http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something ? [17:43:19] edit the interwiki table [17:44:12] kosovan: the Interwiki extension makes editing the table easy (from a Special:Interwiki page) [17:44:39] kosovan: if you don't want to install the extension, you just edit the MySQL table directly [17:44:49] Greta. [17:44:51] *Great [17:44:54] Let's see... [17:45:06] <^demon|lunch> [[wikipedia:]] should by default link to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1 :) [17:45:14] 14(INVALID) Image of higher resolution isn't shown when available - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17381 +comment (10yuri) [17:45:23] <^demon|lunch> [[wikipedia:es:something]] would work technically. [17:46:31] <^demon|lunch> Redirect to enwiki and make it redirect to eswiki :) [17:46:32] It doesn't, ^demon|lunch [17:46:37] <^demon|lunch> It does on my local install. [17:47:15] <^demon|lunch> [[wikipedia:es:Test]] links to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/es:Test, which then redirects to http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test [17:47:27] Oh. [17:47:47] <^demon|lunch> Taking advantage of auto-redirects :) [17:47:53] <^demon|lunch> But anyway, lunch time. Later. [17:49:06] Do you know wich row should I edit? [17:50:19] 03(NEW) Collection Extension should have option to add all pages linked to from a page . - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17386 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (darklama) [17:50:55] 03(mod) Deleted contributions link should be red if user has no deleted contribs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17380 (10public) [17:50:58] ^demon|lunch: ^^ [17:53:03] kosovan: select * from interwiki where iw_prefix like 'wiki%'; [17:53:16] shows you WikiPedia [17:54:05] kosovan: that's the row you want to edit [17:55:40] werdnum: page move gave 'no permission' error. [17:56:40] 03(mod) GENDER function does not work on MediaWiki:Contributions-title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17379 (10rememberthedot) [17:58:48] 03werdna * r46931 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: [17:58:48] Revert "Revert r46880, r46902. After issues with editing rights for pages in [17:58:48] r46880, there are issues with moving pages in r46902. Repored by Hojjat, [17:58:48] confirmed by me.", with the 'issues' fixed -- the problem was that the [17:58:48] 'move-target' action wasn't being handled [17:58:51] properly [17:59:45] demon|lunch: got it. i uderstand the query now. it's simply WHERE rc_new = 1 :) [18:02:05] werdnum: both protected editing *and* page moving appear to work now. [18:02:36] 03yaron * r46932 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_Utils.inc: Fixed bug in including FCKeditor [18:05:22] siebrand: :) [18:08:45] 03(NEW) New namespaces for hr Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17387 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (stem) [18:09:32] 03(NEW) Allow bureaucrats to revoke sysop status on UK chapter website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17388 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (mediawiki) [18:10:37] 03(mod) New namespaces for hr Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17387 +shell; +comment (10Platonides) [18:13:34] 03(mod) New namespaces for hr Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17387 (10stem) [18:16:09] 03dale * r46933 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/maintenance/ (4 files): maintenance updates [18:16:59] 03(mod) Provide an interwiki prefix for "Complete list" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16962 (10mrzmanwiki) [18:17:01] yes, let's add an ugly hack to core to replace 1 line of site JS [18:22:19] werdnum: looking for something to do? come up with a way to make this unnecessary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Main_page_protection_robot [18:24:43] 03dale * r46934 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/maintenance/ (metavid2mvWiki.inc.php scrape_and_insert.inc.php): maintenance bill fix [18:28:40] *Duesentrieb is in brussels for fosdem [18:30:17] is it possiblt to use a parser function like {{#if:... to change the page content per user preference setting? [18:31:09] {{#if:userprefX=1|abc|def}} [18:31:14] Hubble_: no. [18:31:45] it's possible to writen an extension that does that ({{#ifuserprefequals...) but that would kill the parser cache [18:32:17] there are a few preferences that influcense rendering, but those are hardcoded (and should die, mostly) [18:32:25] maybe there's another way. I include Special:NewestPages (from an extension) on Main Page. But I want the users to be able to change that view by using Special:NewPages (standard) instead. [18:33:07] any per-user switch has the same issue. you can hack it with javascript if you really want... [18:33:25] as Gadget? [18:34:28] hmh I don't want to it if it's too much parse checking and slows down the rendering. My Main Page is a heavy visited page [18:35:30] ~2500 page views per day [18:41:11] I like this Slashdot sig: echo -e 'global _start \n _start: \n mov eax, 2 \n int 80h \n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a; [18:41:17] Assembly class is good for something! [18:41:50] but why is it written in the wrong format? [18:42:09] In what way is it the wrong format? [18:42:20] using Intel syntax on Unix is an abomination unto AT&T [18:42:46] what does syscall 2 ? [18:42:59] Oh, that. Well, I guess it works, right? They're using NASM instead of as or whatever. [18:43:02] Platonides, fork. :) [18:43:11] (that was all I had to look up, too) [18:43:14] lol [18:43:52] yes, nasm accepts intel syntax [18:44:08] (gas also accept it but i think it needs some extra parameter) [18:44:11] globl _start; _start: mov 2, %eax; int $80; jmp _start [18:44:22] yksinaisyyteni, it should be $2 [18:44:27] true [18:44:33] 03(mod) Allow bureaucrats to revoke sysop status on UK chapter website - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17388 (10mediawiki) [18:45:21] but then, echo -e isn't standard, and they should use printf instead ;) [18:45:43] I had to figure out what interrupt 80h was, as well as syscall 2. [18:45:43] i don't think syscall numbers are standard either [18:45:59] Man I am totally confused [18:46:15] I have put die("DOM") and die("HASH") in the two preprocessors, and pages still render on my site :/ [18:46:27] require_die()? [18:46:41] die_and_dont_get_up() [18:47:04] preview works :/ [18:48:05] how do i increment the value of a numeric field in openoffice calc? [18:48:19] werdnum, I wasn't totally sure about that, but if it wasn't the gate for syscalls, it'd be for dos/bios calls :P [18:48:39] yksinaisyyteni, write it + 1 ? [18:49:04] oh yes, i hadn't thought of doing that... [18:50:33] werdnum, try if reloading the cache works, had that issue already [18:50:38] or restart apache [18:53:17] HardDisk_WP: I found it out [18:53:19] I wasn't saving properly [18:53:21] stupid macs. [18:53:34] the office forced you to use a mac? [18:53:55] hey [18:54:02] he coulda put ubuntu or something on it [18:54:07] I even volunteered :-P [18:54:17] yksinaisyyteni: Naw, they just gave me one. [18:54:22] I don't mind learning it a bit [18:54:28] 03(mod) Provide an interwiki prefix for "Complete list" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16962 +comment (10public) [18:54:35] *atglenn relaxes back in their chair [18:54:52] atglenn, you use plural pronouns when referring to yourself? [18:54:57] well [18:55:06] I'm not so thrilled with the two available genders [18:55:21] so I bypass them that way. [18:55:21] *yksinaisyyteni avoids that by not using any pronouns in actions [18:55:31] I suppose plural is better than making up ones. [18:55:42] when the language doesn't provide support for something [18:55:49] I had to remove quite a few uncited ones from our article. Queerself... [18:55:51] we have to create that support [18:55:55] Plus, Erik threatened to kill me if I ever used 'Xe' to refer to Ariel. [18:56:04] interesting [18:56:09] werdnum: yes. you should use 'sie' [18:56:12] I shall have to see about that [18:56:16] yksinaisyyteni: [18:56:19] atglenn: I usually just say 'Ariel' [18:56:27] *werdnum doesn't use pronouns when talking about atglenn [18:56:29] Sie? [18:56:31] werdnum should ask me what I prefer rather than just using some random one :-P [18:56:32] Erik Moeller? [18:56:35] What the hell is this nonsense? [18:56:36] Or some other Erik? [18:56:38] Marybelle: sie sat on hir cat [18:56:43] Simetrical: yes, Erik Moeller. [18:56:55] atglenn: Well, what do you prefer then? :P [18:57:00] Real words, damn it. [18:57:10] if enough people use it, it will become a real word [18:57:19] like esperanto! that's a real language now, right? [18:57:32] Allegedly. [18:57:38] Marybelle: I assume (perhaps incorrectly) that you do not have people misidentify your gender every day. For those of us who have that problem, it's actually a serious issue [18:57:41] More real than this Simple crap, at least. [18:57:47] yksinaisyyteni, historically, pronouns don't tend to change very easily. [18:57:59] People don't consciously change them, usually. [18:58:04] atglenn: Heh. They do sometimes when I use this nick... [18:58:15] I prefer: that people use randomly he or she and be annoyed every time they have to choose [18:58:19] Unlike with ordinary words like nouns and verbs, where you have people deliberately coining new ones all the time. [18:58:27] the annoyance is an important piece of my pronoun preference :-P [18:58:37] atglenn: so your gender is 'annoying'? [18:58:42] no, orange [18:58:47] but that's a different question [18:58:49] atglenn, I have to say that transsexuals are *very* *annoying* in English. [18:58:59] I am not a transsexual [18:59:01] People have tried about a half-dozen times to create new pronouns. [18:59:06] Argh. [18:59:09] Whatever. [18:59:09] Simetrical: i don't like gender, but i'm not annoying about it. ;P [18:59:27] Anyway, people who refuse to pick a gender get to be coy and not pick a gender and then you get a headache deciding which one to use. [18:59:42] I use River but use female pronouns as a compromise. [18:59:52] Ariel is "annoyingly-neither-sexual" [19:00:00] For Ariel, I just avoid the topic usually. [19:00:02] Whereas in a totally ungendered language you probably wouldn't have to care. And in a more heavily gendered language they'd be forced to refer to themselves as something. [19:00:04] there is no "pick a gender" as far as I am concerned: Ihave a gender that isn't one of the two socially approved ones. that's how it is. You can not like it, but that's also the way it goes. [19:00:14] the question is probably: wtf are you? [19:00:14] Just figure that as much as you don't like dealing with it, [19:00:23] But in English it's only really third-person singular pronouns that are gendered. [19:00:38] I don't like dealing with it an order of magnitude more, cause I get crap about it a lot more often than you will. [19:00:56] yksinaisyyteni, well, at least when you were going by Kate it wasn't annoying at all. Pretty clear there. [19:01:04] I don't think anybody here disapproves of your choice. It's just grammatically annoying :) [19:01:13] It is a choice? [19:01:14] well, at least my real name is still gender-ambiguous [19:01:16] werdnum, well, or anyone who disapproves is polite enough not to say so. [19:01:24] yksinaisyyteni, yes, there's always something! [19:01:31] choice of pronouns, I think he means. [19:01:37] yksinaisyyteni: Is River your real name? [19:01:42] yes [19:01:48] And isn't that almost always male? I was told it was. [19:01:52] yksinaisyyteni, I figure that you've picked some clearly feminine names sometimes, and never picked a clearly masculine name that I know of, so I go with feminine. [19:02:02] Marybelle: i can't think of any female ones in real life. but there's always River Tam [19:02:04] I expect many people that are genderqueer just give up and use one or the other of the two english pronouns for gender, even though it's not accurate. [19:02:08] Marybelle, isn't there a female River on some TV show? Firefly. [19:02:18] Right. [19:02:20] River Tam. [19:02:26] It's not a common name, anyway. [19:02:33] Simetrical: As I said earlier, I use River but with female pronouns. Everybody wins! [19:03:36] This sounds like an argument to remember for the future: "I actually had a long argument with my SO about Linux vs. Windows issue. My main point was this: whenever she experiences any trouble she still complains to me, and for me it is much easier to deal with Linux." [19:04:25] yup [19:05:48] http://www.fmylife.com/ Has anyone seen this? It's great reading. [19:10:35] Marybelle: that's got some funny stuff in it. [19:10:43] Indeed. [19:11:14] hey there [19:11:19] I've got a problem [19:11:24] !ask | Broc93 [19:11:24] --mwbot-- Broc93: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [19:11:33] every time I try to save something [19:11:43] it appears a blank page [19:11:44] with http://secondaas.netsons.org/wiki/index.php?title=Pagina_principale&action=submit [19:11:52] why? [19:11:56] look at your error log [19:12:19] Platonides: where can I find that? :D [19:12:43] !debug [19:12:43] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [19:12:45] wherever it's configured? [19:12:58] you can try setting display_errors on [19:13:18] I'll try that [19:13:55] Platonides: I found the error [19:13:58] it's in an image :S [19:14:05] I'll delete it [19:22:12] 03(NEW) Slashes (%2F) in URLs shouldn't cause 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17389 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (public) [19:24:38] 03(NEW) Mailing lists need search function readded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17390 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (public) [19:26:46] *Marybelle iz in ur Bugzilla. [19:27:53] onoes! [19:28:01] *I-MOD turns on his filters [19:31:32] 14(DUP) Slashes (%2F) in URLs shouldn't cause 404 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17389 +comment (10paul.copperman) [19:31:33] 03(mod) Slash (/) entered as %2F causes 404 file not found error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9204 +comment (10paul.copperman) [19:31:59] Damn it. [19:32:02] Duped again! [19:32:50] Ah, closed as LATER. That's the issue... [19:35:37] 04(REOPENED) Slash (/) entered as %2F causes 404 file not found error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9204 +comment (10public) [19:37:32] <^demon> clear [19:37:37] <^demon> Howdy [19:37:49] Howdy. [19:37:52] <^demon> Marybelle: I've got loads of free time today. Give me something worth fixing :) [19:37:54] I replied to you, you silly man. [19:38:09] <^demon> I looked, didn't bother replying because I disagree with your logic on every level :D [19:38:21] :P [19:38:37] ^demon: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MZMcBride Take your pick. :-) [19:38:55] Some are really easy. [19:39:17] I'm offering sexual favors if someone fixes bugzilla:2679 properly. :-) [19:39:49] <^demon> I fixed 2242 a week or two ago, you can go ahead and cross that one. [19:39:58] Is it live? [19:40:16] <^demon> Not sure. Might have been in last scap. Let me check. [19:40:26] I don't cross them out until Brion doesn't "pull this back" ;-) [19:40:51] Yep, looks like. [19:40:54] Live, too. [19:41:00] <^demon> Yep it's live. [19:41:13] <^demon> 45503 < 46424 :) [19:41:19] 1999 and 2679 are both skin-related. [19:41:25] So if you're into that kind of thing... [19:41:29] <^demon> The skin scares me :'( [19:41:45] 12681 is just reverting Brion. You just need balls. [19:43:06] 16747 could be a one-line fix. I don't understand the current default at all. [19:43:35] 16755 is writing a MediaWiki page and linking to it from Special:Statistics like "Job queue" is now. [19:43:48] there's a move-rootuserpages right?? [19:44:12] Yes. But it's set for all users to have it. [19:44:14] Which doesn't make any sense. [19:44:17] <^demon> 16747 needs shell, I can't do it (if indeed said right exists) [19:44:44] It only requires shell if you resolve it that way. The default could just be changed. [19:45:25] 17190 is likely a one-line fix. [19:45:51] <^demon> I can do that :D [19:46:23] 15887 is marking an extension OBSOLETE. [19:46:54] Has anyone of you read the book 'MediaWiki Skins Design' _and_ can recommend it? [19:47:03] <^demon> Note to self: eventually rewrite Preferences to subclass SpecialPage. [19:47:11] <^demon> There's a book on skin designing? [19:47:15] MrZ-man is rewriting Specialpreferences.php. [19:47:19] Or so I'm told. [19:47:20] slowly [19:47:25] You're slow. [19:47:26] 03(mod) Provide an interwiki prefix for "Complete list" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16962 (10rememberthedot) [19:47:39] demon: http://www.packtpub.com/mediawiki-skins-design/ [19:47:51] its all hardcoded, so its a pain trying to make it less sucky [19:48:29] <^demon> MrZ-man: Agreed. Only reason I've held off doing it. Same with UserLogin. [19:48:29] You know what would be awesome? [19:48:54] Being able to click to &action=history with an &offset from old diffs. [19:48:58] hopefully I can do it without renaming half the messages [19:49:03] To see the history page as it was when the edit was made. [19:51:36] ^demon: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3185 Another possible bug for you. [19:52:50] 03demon * r46935 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialPreferences.php): (bug 17190) User ID on prefs page shouldn't be delimited. [19:53:12] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3753 Too. [19:53:15] 03(FIXED) User ID in Special:Preferences should not have separators - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17190 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:53:20] Wheeee. [19:53:30] I've got one for you [19:53:38] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 [19:53:50] Hilarious. [19:54:17] <^demon> Prodego: I'm not going to be the fool to mark that as FIXED again :) [19:55:27] <^demon> Granted, the situation is largely better than when bug 1 was filed....but it's still not perfect hehe :) [19:57:43] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3911 seems very... [19:58:17] <^demon> Isn't that somewhat doable by the section transclusion extension? [19:58:49] Pretty much. [20:00:39] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6379 also very ... [20:04:05] <^demon> Where is {{subst:}} handled again? [20:06:29] <^demon> Ah, I think it's about halfway through the parser :) [20:06:51] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MZMcBride#Development_bugs Updated. :-) [20:08:08] ^demon, it might be in braceSubstitution() [20:09:31] <^demon> I-MOD: I think so, it's just hard to follow. {{subst:}} doesn't act like parser tags or functions, so it's a bit weird to nail down. [20:09:37] yeah [20:09:41] it's there [20:10:00] i think it's near this line: $mwSubst = MagicWord::get( 'subst' ); [20:10:27] wait [20:10:30] or not [20:11:19] not quite sure if that's it or not [20:12:01] ^demon, here it is: preSaveTransform [20:12:26] hello again [20:12:38] how can I change the type of files supported by mediawiki? [20:12:55] it says that I can only upload jpg gif png bmp images [20:13:07] what about videos/music/svg files? [20:13:09] hello everybody.. [20:13:23] 03(WONTFIX) A CSS class for 'blue' links. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7284 +comment (10public) [20:13:35] <^demon> I-MOD: Yeah, I see more of it there. [20:13:47] <^demon> What I'm looking *really* for is the few lines of code that actually call the title in question and susbtitute the contents in their place. [20:14:17] I moved my wiki to another server, but the old link is still in search engine result..how can I make a redirect that redirect a page to the same page on the new wiki? [20:14:18] can anybody answer me? [20:15:29] <^demon> !wg FileExtensions | Broc93 [20:15:29] --mwbot-- Broc93: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgFileExtensions [20:15:45] ^demon, yeah, i know, poking around in the parser is fun [20:16:48] ^demon, take a look at line 3742 [20:16:55] it calls replaceVariables [20:17:08] and because of the output type, it will only do the subst stuff [20:17:32] ^demon: thanks! [20:17:37] <^demon> Broc93: No problem. [20:17:51] <^demon> I-MOD: On trunk? 3742 is just '~~~~' => "$sigText $d", [20:17:58] hmmm [20:18:00] <^demon> Oh, like 5 lines up :p [20:18:07] *I-MOD looks again [20:18:10] <^demon> $text = $this->replaceVariables( $text ); [20:18:29] it actually gets expanded in the expand function i think [20:19:04] which is in preprocessor_DOM, i think [20:21:03] *^demon is starting to develop a slight migraine, blood pressure is also rising. [20:21:18] oh dear. [20:22:06] Hey how do I refer to the number of users?? [20:22:12] ^demon, it gets nuts in there, i should have warned you [20:22:18] isn't there something that goes inside curly brackets that gives some kind of number for that? [20:22:21] <^demon> Oh, I'm well aware :) [20:22:29] <^demon> Nerd42: {{NUMBEROFUSERS}} [20:22:29] What the hell is Live Preview? [20:22:38] oh thanks :) [20:22:43] <^demon> Marybelle: You don't remember the VERY brief time it was enabled on WMF sites?!? [20:22:46] !magic [20:22:46] --mwbot-- For more information about creating magic words and their inner workings, see . For a list of magic words, please see . [20:22:47] <^demon> Oh it was fantastic :D [20:22:54] How brief? [20:22:56] And when? [20:23:01] And is it still part of core? [20:23:10] <^demon> God, it must've been like a year and a half ago, 2 years even? [20:23:19] <^demon> And yes, it's just disabled by default and no one goes near it. [20:23:36] sounds like a hoot [20:23:46] You could remove it and resolve all its bug as WONTFIX. :D [20:24:12] That'll increase your score quite a bit. You'll soon be winning Bugzilla! [20:24:59] <^demon> You should enable it and watch the fun :) [20:24:59] is there somewhere I can go see the progress on the new parser? (like a webpage) [20:25:11] <^demon> What new parser? [20:25:15] New parser? [20:25:22] *I-MOD thought there was a new parser in teh works [20:25:29] <^demon> I thought this was the new parser. [20:25:30] Not really. [20:25:30] maybe my brain lied to me again [20:25:40] The preprocessor was rewritten about a year ago. [20:25:56] *I-MOD remembers something about phase 3 [20:26:06] 03(mod) Permissions issues with texvc - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8625 04CRIT->normal; high->normal (10public) [20:26:41] What the hell. A "blocker" assigned to Brion from... [20:26:50] April 2008. [20:26:52] Yeah, no. [20:27:03] <^demon> #? [20:27:17] <^demon> I-MOD: For more fun, go play in Preprocessor_DOM::expand() :D [20:27:25] yeah [20:27:26] 03(mod) Data too long for column 'rev_comment' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13721 04BLOCKER->normal (10public) [20:27:28] ^ [20:27:29] that's the one i mentioned [20:27:30] <^demon> Rather, PPFrame_DOM::expand() [20:27:42] i've seen [20:28:11] 03werdna * r46936 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Cache preprocessor output in memcached. [20:28:16] i attempted context sensitive substitution and some of my exploits in that direction led me there [20:29:24] because i was looking for where things actually got substituted in at render time [20:29:45] <^demon> Well, I was looking at trying to put {{substall:}} into core (and not as a crappy parser tag extension like I originally hacked up)....but alas. [20:29:52] 03(mod) Wrong table schema / invalid queries in PostgreSQL (smw) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14071 04CRIT->normal (10public) [20:29:54] <^demon> And it wouldn't be right to make it a parserfunction. [20:30:39] 03(mod) Class 'UploadForm' not found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15184 04BLOCKER->normal (10public) [20:32:04] 03(mod) Anons w/ o edit permissions have problem with references if gallery tag is used. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16767 04CRIT->normal (10public) [20:32:58] werdnum, what's the performance improvement like from r46936? [20:34:05] 03(mod) E-mail notifications are sent on every change ( currently a wrong behaviour) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17084 04CRIT->major (10public) [20:34:18] 03(mod) GenericEditPage breaks Show Preview and Show Changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17225 04CRIT->minor (10public) [20:34:28] CRITICAL MEANS LOSS OF DATA. [20:36:23] Simetrical: Tim says he expects an order of magnitude improvement on Wikimedia. [20:37:08] ( decreasing the % time taken by that function by an order of magnitude) [20:37:25] What are the benchmarks on a large article? [20:37:26] It's a really simple patch, too. [20:37:29] werdnum, I want to see [[George W. Bush]] render for me in <5s. Then I'll be happy. :) [20:37:33] hehe [20:37:38] Simetrical: let me import it and see :D [20:37:44] Simetrical: Same. :-) [20:37:51] Or [[Barack Obama]]. \o/ [20:39:32] <^demon> I just watched "W" last night, speaking of presidents. [20:40:08] I heard that was awful. [20:40:18] *Simetrical somehow always uses [[George W. Bush]] as an example of a giant, slow page. [20:40:32] Most revisions to an article on en.wiki. [20:40:39] It's quite popular to edit / vandalize. [20:40:53] 03(mod) Namespace localisation broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17385 04CRIT->major (10public) [20:42:37] I'm using 1.9.3, and need a new api feature, any idea when prop=imageinfo&iiprop=url first showed up in the api? [20:42:47] need to get the url for an image with only knowing its name [20:43:00] 03(mod) Error while loading a spanish database dump with mwdumper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14379 04BLOCKER->normal (10public) [20:44:25] 03(mod) Excessively large offset specified in {{#time:}} causes timeout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14898 04CRIT->major (10public) [20:44:32] More Z-man. [20:48:43] <^demon> Why is there a component for the WAP Gateway under Wikimedia and a product called "Wikipedia Mobile." [20:48:47] <^demon> Aren't they the same? [20:50:28] 04(REOPENED) Allow images that link somewhere other than the image page ( using normal link syntax) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539 +comment (10apb) [20:52:38] The hell? [20:52:47] ^demon: I'm not surprised. Are you? [20:54:22] Bugzilla's search is such fail. [20:54:23] <^demon> No, I'm not. [20:54:24] 03(NEW) Remove "Issues" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17391 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (innocentkiller) [20:55:34] 03ashley * r46937 10/trunk/extensions/EditSimilar/ (EditSimilar.i18n.php EditSimilar.php): EditSimilar: code cleanup [20:56:13] 03(FIXED) Allow images that link somewhere other than the image page ( using normal link syntax) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539 +comment (10public) [20:56:24] All those people just got two e-mails. :-( [20:56:51] Marybelle, you know that "bug 16912" autolinks on Bugzilla, right? [20:57:12] I know that Bugzilla doesn't have a preview option for the most inane reasons imaginable. [20:57:24] And yes, I knew that too. But I don't like relying on such things. [20:57:45] The Bugzilla bug tracker has an open bug about a preview option. [20:57:53] It's the most existential bullshit I've ever read. [20:58:06] *Marybelle grumbles. [21:00:12] 03demon * r46938 10/trunk/extensions/UsernameBlacklist/OBSOLETE: (bug 15887) Mark UsernameBlacklist as OBSOLETE. [21:00:19] 03(FIXED) UsernameBlacklist should be marked obsolete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15887 +comment (10innocentkiller) [21:00:23] :O [21:00:46] *ialex stabs ^demon [21:00:58] ialex: Hmm? [21:01:07] svn:eol-style native ! [21:01:09] 03purodha * r46939 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/languages/MV_Messages.php: typing error in message text. [21:01:15] *Marybelle laughs. [21:01:55] 03(mod) Anons w/ o edit permissions have problem with references if gallery tag is used. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16767 +comment (10paul.copperman) [21:01:58] 03(mod) fails after Special:Prefixindex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15819 (10paul.copperman) [21:02:00] 03demon * r46940 10/trunk/extensions/UsernameBlacklist/OBSOLETE: eol-style [21:02:17] eol-style is so stupid. [21:03:39] <^demon> I just added it to my svn config now :) [21:16:29] 14(DUP) Add link to message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16795 +comment (10innocentkiller) [21:16:30] 03(mod) Refer to Project:Babel in Babel-autocreate-reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16782 +comment (10innocentkiller) [21:17:55] 03ialex * r46941 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql: Fix for r46460: use "CREATE INDEX ... ON ..." rather than inside "CREATE TABLE" so that SQLite doesn't throw an error when creating new tables [21:18:25] could someone help me with an auth plugin? I have no idea what I'm doing [21:18:44] 03werdna * r46942 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/Expr.php: Fix glaring fatal. [21:19:57] I need to reset a password with a call from an external script [21:20:53] i have an elusive problem that i am unable to solve: i admin a number of wikis, only one of which is having this issue. normally, all my wikis are of the form mediawiki.mydomain.com/wikiname/ e.g. mediawiki.mydomain.com/nascwiki/. one of the wikis when sending out the confirmation email has managed to get the wiki name in the url, e.g. gctwiki.mydomain.com. the problem is that this is incorrect. none of my wikis have $wgServer variable in [21:21:04] 03demon * r46943 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/ (Babel.i18n.php BabelAutoCreate.class.php): (bug 16782) Link to "Project:Babel" in the auto-create summary and abort messages. [21:21:17] 03(FIXED) Refer to Project:Babel in Babel-autocreate-reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16782 +comment (10innocentkiller) [21:26:37] <^demon> Marybelle: I'm going back into the parser again. Cover me :) [21:26:45] :O [21:26:49] Good luck. :-) [21:27:32] There's a quote about that in Bugzilla. Something about every time someone tries to fix something in the parser, they take one look and decide to go watch television. [21:27:49] Hello :) [21:28:00] Can someone help me with small bugs( i think they are) [21:28:01] http://www.wikibond.org/index.php?title=Citro%C3%83%C2%ABn_2CV [21:28:04] ^demon, yes, good luck [21:28:22] Marybelle, i've had the same experience, but i go off to code in D instead [21:28:30] See that page, the title is strange, is that normall or how can it be normall again into Citro�n? :) [21:28:37] D? Is that like C+++? [21:28:47] yes, sort of [21:28:50] C++ done right [21:28:51] It's happened after an downtime :) [21:28:58] <^demon> Marybelle: There's another one about Tim going in and never being heard from again. [21:29:02] Cobraz0r: Your encoding is set wrong? [21:29:21] Check your MySQL configuration. Make sure it's set to UTF-8. [21:29:23] Dont know or it's, how can i check that? [21:29:30] I will check it! [21:32:34] is it possible to "manually" reset a password on the wiki db, i.e properly hash a string and store it on the db. [21:33:06] wiki_noob: Just change the e-mail address and have the software send you a forgotten password e-mail. [21:33:09] Much, much easier. [21:33:48] problem is the geniuses here have disallowed SMTP so i cannot send e-mails [21:34:12] !passwordreset [21:34:12] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Password_Reset [21:34:26] There's that extension. There are also other tricks to do it... [21:34:27] right, that allows an admin to reset it [21:34:36] Or bureaucrat or whatever. [21:34:41] lemme outline the system [21:34:45] By the way, i have a few pages like this: /WikiBond:Pagename and now a few are death of these. I am sure they where there before a long time. Can it be that when you mediawiki is upgraded it's not allowed to make such pages? [21:34:55] http://www.wikibond.org/index.php?title=WikiBond:Artikelen&action=edit&redlink=1 [21:35:19] Cobraz0r: You changed your project name. [21:35:29] http://www.wikibond.org/?title=Wikibond.org:Artikelen [21:35:31] Haha, you fantastic! [21:35:40] I know, right? [21:35:52] :D [21:35:54] Love you! [21:36:06] wiki_noob: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Resetting_passwords [21:36:09] so the wiki is inside of an intranet, so the user first logs into the intranet and the credentials are then passed to the wiki to log them in/out there. now if they forget their password to the intranet I have ways to let them reset their passwords, but now I need that password change to then cascade to the wiki as well [21:36:11] Read. :-) [21:36:51] I was told that was the old hashing technique [21:37:02] *I was told that was the old hashing technique [21:37:14] oh,,,I wrote it right... [21:37:25] sorry :-/ [21:38:13] a sample password from the db looks like this: :B:43bbf880:a20b5690aad1fd7d1ea1e15d4729bca1 [21:38:17] Ok, an question; an standaard wiki is 68 tables and mine full wiki is 39 tables, is that normall? [21:38:44] what? [21:38:48] does your wiki work/ [21:38:49] ? [21:39:09] Or do you get PHP errors? [21:39:14] On who your reacting? Me or noob? [21:39:35] Some tables are used by certain extensions, and are not needed for all wikis [21:39:37] (you) [21:39:38] A standard wiki is 68 tables? Wut? [21:39:45] I'm not sure where you got '68' from [21:39:55] Or what a 'standard' wiki is, for that matter [21:40:26] MediaWiki Business. MediaWiki Ultimate. MediaWiki Server. MediaWiki Enterprise. MediaWiki Classic.... [21:40:28] an new installed wiki.. My hoster said he saw 68 tables in the fresh version and mine 68 [21:41:34] Marybelle, is there one without media player? [21:41:46] MediaWiki Lite. [21:42:22] well, if you're missing any particular table, and that causes you issues, then you should tell us so we can diagnose that. If there's no actual problem with your wiki and you don't know of any particular tables you're missing [21:42:37] No errors now [21:42:38] if your wiki is missing half the database, it would be horribly broken, since it isn't, your hoster probably doesn't know what he's talking about [21:43:00] Dont see any wrong things.. [21:43:11] 68 tables is far too many. [21:43:23] Btw, how do i change after installation the project name? [21:43:51] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout [21:44:01] Thnx [21:44:03] <^demon> A default install should have 41 tables. [21:44:45] <^demon> Actually, 39. The 2 new ones are in subversion, not a released version. [21:44:52] Version 1.13.3 [21:45:18] Project name edited, solved [21:56:20] 03purodha * r46944 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: [21:56:20] Give users a direct link to the page log so as to more easily find [21:56:20] deleted redirects after page moves, or pages moved without automated [21:56:20] redirects, as per a suggestion of user Church of emacs, see: [21:56:20] http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support#MediaWiki:Noarticletext [21:59:20] <^demon> MZMcBride: Are you somewhat familiar with Wiktionary? [21:59:30] I hate their community. [21:59:34] <^demon> :-\ [21:59:34] 03siebrand * r46945 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Remove support for UsernameBlacklist per r46938 [21:59:36] So, sorta. [21:59:42] They're a bunch of insular bastards. [21:59:44] <^demon> !b 16434 [21:59:44] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16434 [22:00:02] <^demon> What the hell is an "Appendix List?" And how does it relate to Wikimedia and not an extension/core? [22:01:01] ^demon: They have an Appendix: namespace. [22:01:03] 03siebrand * r46946 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/MediaWikiExtensions.php: Remove obsolete [22:02:09] <^demon> Ah, found that. [22:02:42] No idea what that user is talking about. Suggest INVALID until someone can describe the actual issue. [22:03:09] nah, that needs a new tag [22:03:19] an admin should add OMGWTFBBQ as one of the options [22:04:11] 03rotem * r46947 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update. [22:04:31] 03(mod) Appendix error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16434 +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:07:20] 03(mod) Preferences return "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." error, when the HTML is alright. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16941 +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:09:37] 03(mod) Import sources for cs wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16688 -easy ; +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:09:39] 03(mod) no.wikimedia settings - main page in user lang - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16729 -easy ; +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:12:13] ^demon, I found it [22:12:25] <^demon> Platonides: Found? [22:12:35] the appendix list :) [22:12:40] <_KaszpiR__> hi [22:12:57] <^demon> Platonides: Oh where is it? Reproducable bug? [22:13:36] yes, yes [22:13:41] although explained a bit odd [22:14:31] 03(mod) Appendix error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16434 +comment (10Platonides) [22:14:34] there it is [22:15:01] the problem is that confusing 'next page' link [22:15:14] 03siebrand * r46948 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Small tweak for 'noarticletext' [22:16:57] <^demon> Is that a MediaWiki thing or a customized-on-wiktionary thing? [22:17:09] !wg NamespacesWithSubpages | TrevorParscal_ [22:17:09] --mwbot-- TrevorParscal_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespacesWithSubpages [22:18:28] normal mediawiki [22:18:37] I guess that some change broke pagination [22:18:52] or that pagination was added without properly testing [22:19:23] 14(WFM) Different message for talk page edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6069 +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:22:39] 03yaron * r46949 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: Fixed incorrect initialization of content language [22:23:56] 03(mod) Pagination doesn't work on Special:PrefixIndex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16434 summary (10Platonides) [22:27:50] <^demon> Platonides: 16032 is a dupe, but your summary is better. Duping to the later bug. [22:28:31] 14(DUP) Special:PrefixIndex next page no longer lists the entire list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16032 +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:28:32] 03(mod) Pagination doesn't work on Special:PrefixIndex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16434 +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:29:21] 16032 was a bit better than the original one of 16434 :) [22:30:09] <_KaszpiR__> hey, i got issue on my mediawki RecentChanges RSS feed [22:30:12] <^demon> This is true, but your re-summarizing and explanation make it better. [22:30:36] 03(mod) Preferences return "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." error, when the HTML is alright. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16941 (10alvareo) [22:31:02] <_KaszpiR__> XML Parsing Error: XML or text declaration not at start of entity [22:31:10] <_KaszpiR__> Line Number 1, Column 879: [22:31:11] 03(mod) Preferences return "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." error, when the HTML is alright. - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16941 (10alvareo) [22:31:32] <_KaszpiR__> looking at the sourcecode of the produced xml rss feed i see there is 879 whitespaces in first line [22:31:36] thanks [22:31:37] I am able to correctly file bugs! [22:31:59] xD [22:32:09] <_KaszpiR__> i use mediawkiki 1.11.2 [22:32:12] 03yaron * r46950 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version: 1.5.1 [22:32:14] hey, I'm proud I was able to sort out what did it mean [22:32:52] <^demon> That's better than I got. [22:35:50] 03(mod) Preferences return "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." error, when the HTML is alright. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16941 +comment (10Platonides) [22:44:55] 03werdna * r46951 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add 'include pages linked to from these pages' to Special:Export and the corresponding transwiki interface. [22:46:25] <^demon> werdnum: That's sexy. [22:46:39] :D [22:53:37] 03(mod) Notification messages not being sent despite preferences being set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17340 +comment (10atluxity) [22:53:57] <^demon> werdnum: I'm going to rewrite it to subclass SpecialPage. [22:54:02] <^demon> Like a nice special page should. [22:56:48] :O [23:02:18] Hi, I am trying to run a full backup "php dumbBackup.php --full", I have verified php was built with --with-mysql, but for some reason it gives me this error: DB connection error: MySQL functions missing, have you compiled PHP with the --with-mysql option? [23:03:39] Hi. A question for developers: in Title.php , in the function isValidMoveTarget, should the fifth arguments of the $dbw->selectRow() be "array('FOR UPDATE')" instead of just "'FOR UPDATE'"? It seems to me that Database::selectRow() expects an array, not a string. I'm asking because the ReplaceText gives me errors without this chan [23:03:40] ge. Thanks. [23:07:35] vcs, is mysql listed doing php -m ? [23:08:33] 03(FIXED) Namespace localisation broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17385 +comment (10yaron57) [23:08:57] 03(FIXED) [[Has default form::]] only works when entered in local language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17302 +comment (10yaron57) [23:09:04] Platonides, no its not! that is weird [23:09:05] 03(FIXED) set logo for soomali wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11973 +comment (10jeluf) [23:09:12] why would it show up in test.php? [23:09:29] I didnt build php, my boss did, but i saw that flag in test.php along with other mysql stuff [23:10:32] 03(FIXED) Change the logo for it.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12383 +comment (10jeluf) [23:11:59] vcs, you may be using different versions in the server and in the command line [23:12:26] raf_, probably [23:12:41] but note that in the current version it doesn't use that system [23:13:34] Platonides, yes, I did see that.. I'm using 1.12 since it's in Debian. Do they make such maintenance changes on old branches/releases? [23:14:19] I just wonder if I should pursue submitting a patch or bug report. [23:16:01] raf_, you should use the current version [23:16:36] debian doesn't even catch up well with official releases [23:18:36] you can try bugging our release manager to backport that bugfix to 1.12 but I don't think it's worth fix on 1.12 [23:20:44] As you mentioned, the code looks pretty different now.. might be a can of worms to backport too many changes. I suspect that the Debian packagers would agree to this small patch (or just package up a newer MW version). [23:22:53] 06(LATER) Changing the logo of gileki Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16271 +comment (10jeluf) [23:23:54] 1.14 will be released soon [23:24:08] users should upgrade instead of patch 1.12 [23:25:27] Platonides: Ohh, that's interesting. I've still got 1.13 RC [23:26:55] I'm having trouble getting a logo on Mediawiki [23:27:05] 1.13.3 was released on december [23:27:17] techman224? [23:27:25] I set $wgLogo = "{$wgUploadPath}/Wiki.png"; [23:27:42] and I uploaded a image with that file name [23:28:02] but the logo isn't on the top-right [23:28:20] does the logo appear? [23:28:23] no [23:28:41] try setting $wgLogo = "{$wgUploadPath}/b/bc/Wiki.png"; [23:28:43] It's uploaded, but doesn't show on thetop-right [23:28:54] you probably have hashed uploads enabled [23:29:10] Platonides, what's that [23:29:41] instead of having all uploads on one folder [23:29:48] they are spreaded into several [23:30:04] some filesystems have problems with too many files on one folder [23:30:05] Platonides, it does that as the default [23:30:20] It's the default for every wiki [23:30:21] Platonides, I just rebuilt it and tested but for some reason mysql is still not showing up in php -m [23:30:29] i verified that --with-myqsl is used [23:30:45] mysql is installed along with wikimedia, that is all running fine [23:30:52] Someone needs to change that [23:31:14] techman224, why? [23:31:38] Platonides, it's the default [23:31:41] vcs, maybe you need to enable it on php.ini ? [23:31:50] techman224, and where's the problem? [23:32:25] ^demon: Were you the one who did the stats on contributions? [23:32:43] Platonids, when $wgLogo is used in DefaultSettings, it uses $wgLogo = "{$wgUploadPath}/Wiki.png [23:32:55] 03(FIXED) Update request for ga.wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16401 +comment (10jeluf) [23:33:04] <^demon> werdnum: The stuff on Special:Statistics? Nope. [23:33:20] i am looking at it right now, it looks enabled to me :| [23:33:23] <^demon> I wrote the two crappy methods in User that never got used (and I've been thinking of removing). [23:33:44] ^demon: no, the list of "How many people contributed more than X edits in month Y" [23:33:50] the thing that was posted on enwiki [23:34:29] <^demon> Oh that. No I had nothing to do with that. [23:34:58] 03(FIXED) update the new zh.Wikibooks logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17377 +comment (10jeluf) [23:35:35] Platonids, thanks for your opinion on that bug (I'm no PHP developer). I'll file bugs with MW and Debian and they can each figure out how they want to handle it. Debian stable (out next week) will be on 1.12 for maybe 1.5 years to come. [23:37:18] yea I stopped using the debian package about 5 minutes after installing it [23:37:20] Platonides, I added extension=mysql.so to php.ini, but still it will not show up with no other error messages [23:37:36] 03(FIXED) New logo for greek wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17358 +comment (10jeluf) [23:41:39] *Platonides mumbles that MediaWiki is really stable by itself, without need of using old versions [23:43:05] so says every upstream developer, but if they all find out I'm running bleeding edge MW, but not of their software, I'll never hear the end of it ;-) [23:43:43] heck unstable still only has 1.13 [23:44:15] and that, just barely... I don't remember seeing that there last week [23:44:56] been there since august [23:45:53] well, ok then.. I only saw it in my peripheral vision as I was looking at what's in etch-backports [23:46:06] 03(FIXED) Upload & Reupload permissions change at zh-wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16804 +comment (10jeluf) [23:47:23] it's sad when unstable isn't unstable enough for me :P [23:49:18] 03(FIXED) Please enable subpages for main namespace for is.wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16808 +comment (10jeluf) [23:49:29] 03(NEW) in Title::isValidMoveTarget, $dbw-> selectRow should pass array, not string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17392 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (fleming) [23:52:55] is there a method to find sort keys of categories on a given page? [23:58:18] 03(FIXED) Import sources for cs wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16688 +comment (10jeluf)