[00:03:44] 03(NEW) Put Special:Interwiki into wiki section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17419 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (techman224) [00:04:03] 03(mod) Put Special:Interwiki into wiki section (Extension: SpecialInterwiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17419 summary (10techman224) [00:04:13] There [00:04:37] And I did the patch right [00:07:52] you sure :P [00:22:17] Hi, sorry if this is an annoying question, but I just installed mediawiki and was wondering if there was anything else I need to do to get started [00:22:28] Res2216firestar, you mean other than . . . using it? [00:22:36] Yeah [00:27:56] Res2216firestar, um, well, why don't you just use it? [00:28:01] And if you have any problems, you can ask then. [00:29:25] I am using it, I considered my question answered, I was just wondering if I would have to do anything else before it was ok [00:35:10] Res2216firestar, if you did, wouldn't it say so in the installation instructions? [00:36:17] on mw 1.14rc1, with #$wgUseFileCache = true; and "not logged in" once the cache has been created (second reload), it renders with what seems to be a broken common.css (it isnt getting some styles). [00:36:22] with filecache off everything is fine [00:36:48] Ok, ok, I'm just cautious and usually double-check /everything/ [00:36:58] strange issue. [00:37:06] the common.css does look to be cached ok [00:38:08] and the even stranger thing is that viewing the css on firefox seems to show it ok also. [00:40:27] ahaa. firefox is telling me [00:40:28] Error: The stylesheet http://exotica.travelmate/mediawiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&usemsgcache=yes&ctype=text%2Fcss&smaxage=18000&action=raw&maxage=18000 was not loaded because its MIME type, "text/html", is not "text/css". [00:40:29] Source File: http://exotica.travelmate/wiki/Main_Page [00:40:29] Line: 0 [00:40:52] bug in cache system with mime types ? [00:46:22] 03(mod) Page loads incorrectly when egLogEntryMultiLine or egLogEntryMultiLineRows is set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17406 +comment (10morse.caleb) [00:50:07] 03(mod) Page loads incorrectly when egLogEntryMultiLine or egLogEntryMultiLineRows is set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17406 +comment (10morse.caleb) [00:50:50] 03(mod) Page loads incorrectly when egLogEntryMultiLine or egLogEntryMultiLineRows is set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17406 (10morse.caleb) [01:21:50] 03(NEW) filecache returns wiki controlled css as type text/html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17420 major; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (buzz) [01:34:18] I have a small problem [01:34:32] I'm trying to share the user table between two wikis [01:35:32] but, since they're not on the same host (they're on subdomains), I can't do it (or maybe its something else, because I get an inline SQL error when trying to login with $wgSharedDB etc set) [01:35:47] Can anyone please help? [01:38:37] I would use CentralAuth but the "made for wikimedia projects specifically" throws me off [01:40:17] sorry, my internet is acting up [01:43:04] I bet you don't need CA [01:43:20] but I've never used wgSharedDB or whatever, so I have no idea what the problem might be [01:43:35] Here, I'll go get the error if you like [01:43:47] well, I won't know what to do with it [01:43:50] but others might [01:44:07] Ok. [01:46:51] http://pastesite.com/5078 [01:46:54] Thats the error [01:47:09] Thats after filling out the form to login [01:47:25] However, after un-commenting the code, I thought of something [01:47:48] for $wgSharedDB, I left out the hosting account prefix [01:47:54] Maybe thats it? [01:48:58] ah [01:49:01] thats was it [01:49:11] *TheOracle23 smacks himself in face [01:49:20] Well, thanks everybody >.> [02:35:22] Hello. [02:35:30] I think I will start using Media Wiki. [02:35:43] I want my content to be organized and easier to read. [02:35:49] that's nice. [02:38:39] wait [02:38:51] I can't upload it to my Powweb server? [02:38:59] I don't actually own it, I buy hosting from them. [02:39:39] Tetracomm: Is it shell or FTP? [02:39:43] FTP. [02:39:48] aw that sucks :( [02:40:14] I uploaded all mediawiki files via ftp on my host though it took a while [02:40:28] and then I wasn't able to chmod the config directory ._. [02:40:33] :( [02:40:38] Lawd. [02:40:56] I was hoping to improve the quality of my website drastically by organizing it better. :( [02:41:27] well.. if you maybe had a much more relaxed web host w/ SSH or something :p [04:00:36] Hi guys, How is possible to make a wiki both editable for anyone and have just some pages locked for just a group of users? [04:01:32] All pages are editable by anyone by default [04:02:03] you can protect pages so that only administrators can edit them, or so that anonymous users and new users cannot edit them. [04:02:27] I don't know if you can set a page such that only a particular user can edit it though [04:02:43] !wg NamespaceProtection [04:02:43] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespaceProtection [04:02:55] !wg NamespaceProtection | Silveira_Neto [04:02:55] --mwbot-- Silveira_Neto: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespaceProtection [04:03:19] Thanks guys [04:03:40] Silveira_Neto: also wgRestrictionLevels, if you need to create a new group [04:03:48] !wg RestrictionLevels | Silveira_Neto [04:03:48] --mwbot-- Silveira_Neto: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRestrictionLevels [04:15:09] 03(NEW) Some pages doesn't show it' s size in history page and {{PAGESIZE}} in jawp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17421 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (mizusumashi) [04:29:56] *Marybelle kicks CIA-60 [04:29:56] ow [04:35:44] o.o [04:35:47] how :O [04:36:03] *chuck eats CIA-60 [04:36:03] *CIA-60 tastes crunchy [04:36:19] :< [04:42:57] 'lo. is there a known way to throttle pageview from an account/IP ? [04:43:22] 03(FIXED) A non-Latin character with Latin one is duplicated in [[Special :Search]] of Japanese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16708 (10mizusumashi) [04:44:36] he goal is mainly to throttle site copier that can be pretty heavy on the server [04:45:51] you can block [04:45:53] DarkoNeko: bw_mod [04:46:00] I think that is more of a webserver question [04:47:27] hmm [04:48:30] chasingsol, I assume that's an apache module ? [04:48:33] *DarkoNeko googles [04:48:44] DarkoNeko: yes [04:48:52] alrighty, will look [04:48:54] thanks [04:49:02] it can do what you need [04:58:27] where can you find the changelog for the changes between mediawiki 1.13.3 to the latest version .4? [05:13:00] crepe: 1.13.3 to 1.13.4? [05:13:19] He left. [05:13:45] he might read logs [05:15:04] in which case... the changes between http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=43669 and http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=46957 to http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_13/ [07:01:51] morning [07:13:56] did any one implement this extension at their MediaWiki : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Group_Based_Access_Control [07:43:01] hello, i have a mediawiki installation running on IIS and i have problems getting the filesizes of uploaded files displayed, where does mediawiki store the filesizes and is there a workaround if filesize function on the uploaded temp file doesn't work ? [07:43:09] 03aaron * r47025 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [07:43:09] * Tweaks for bug 17052: [07:43:09] ** Made radio button default selection fallback to the next one for deleted revs [07:43:09] ** Use deleted diff message rather than showing an ambiguous "empty diff" [07:43:09] * Code style tweaks [07:43:10] 03(FIXED) Misleading diffs involving revisions deleted through RevisionDelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17052 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [07:44:21] 03(mod) RevisionDelete should have max age variable to hide content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17378 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [07:53:38] 03(mod) Hiding log entries with RevisionDelete does not automatically hide the corresponding page history entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17053 +schema-change (10JSchulz_4587) [07:59:05] 03(mod) Log summaries are rendered differently to admins when contents have been concealed by RevisionDelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17060 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [08:02:05] whats the diffrence between mediawiki 1.13.3 to 1.13.4 [08:02:06] ? [08:02:23] im looking for the change log [08:07:06] is that even allowed to move a Help: ns page to a Manual: ns page? isn't that a license conflict? http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=move&user=&page=Help%3ALinked+images&year=&month=-1 [08:10:14] Splarka: any idea where are the release notes for mediawiki 1.13.4? [08:11:02] the changes between http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=43669 and http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=46957 to http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_13/ [08:11:11] happy digging [08:11:11] I have a question about the TitleKey extension and AJAX search [08:11:30] the drop down box has disappeared since installing TitleKey any ideas why? [08:12:36] Splarka: thank you ;) [08:17:34] MrHappy: any javascript errors? [08:18:45] Hi, not on the screen. [08:19:01] click on go and the search works correctly. [08:20:26] in your browser's error console? [08:21:52] IE6 [08:22:21] same think works on MediaWiki if I search for titlekey it drops down TitleKey [08:29:46] anyone here can think of a logical explanation to why the ldap extension would id me as sysop and when i login i get the rights of a user? [08:32:14] (which are readonly) [08:32:19] hello [08:32:30] is there something as [[User:self]]? [08:32:52] Special:Mypage [08:33:16] thanks for the pointer werdnum :-) worked [08:33:30] you mean that when you click your user name and get to your private page? [08:34:48] barra_library: that isn't a pointer, this is: 0x4AE15E8432 [08:35:08] 03siebrand * r47026 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesSah.php: Fallback for Yakut to Russian per request of translator HalanTul [08:35:15] *barra_library fails at reading HEX [08:35:31] werdnum: lol [08:36:29] werdnum: for you : http://www.xkcd.com/138/ :D [08:37:31] CrushKingX: I know, that's where I stole it from :D [08:38:07] werdnum: heh :) [08:40:36] later :-) [08:47:24] moin [08:56:56] 03(ASSIGNED) Data returned by buildSidebar() is in wrong format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17413 (10support) [08:57:08] I am about to giveup :( [08:57:52] i cant figure out why the ntlm extension does what it does :( [09:01:41] 03jojo * r47027 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.i18n.php): pass system message name to buildSidebar(), to get a uniform ID for all languages [09:02:30] 14(INVALID) Data returned by buildSidebar() is in wrong format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17413 +comment (10support) [09:13:43] 03siebrand * r47028 10/trunk/phase3/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [09:13:43] * Update message 'pipe-separator' to have leading and trailing space for English and Occitan, to be able to remove some hard coded spaces [09:13:43] * Take out some hard coded pipe characters. Replace by message or Language::pipeList [09:13:43] * Take out a hard coded comma list SpecialIpblocklist.php. Replace by Language::commaList [09:19:05] 03(FIXED) BASEPAGENAME and SUBPAGENAME do not output properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17411 +comment (10sadik.khalid) [09:22:40] 03(mod) filecache returns wiki controlled css as type text/html - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17420 (10buzz) [09:37:25] 03tstarling * r47029 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/makeMessageDB.php: Simple proof-of-principle script to generate a CDB file from the currently loaded extensions [09:55:52] 03(NEW) Use Sessions instead of cookies for Login - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17422 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (tim987) [09:56:26] 03(mod) Use Sessions instead of cookies for Login - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17422 normal->highest (10tim987) [09:57:11] 03(mod) GENDER-Parserfunction can be abused to fetch the gender of a bunch of users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17238 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [09:57:17] <[PRO]Lifixs_> Hey, I'm totally inept at any of this. [09:58:03] <[PRO]Lifixs_> I deleted the default main page and now the logo's gone along with the theme. [09:58:58] <[PRO]Lifixs_> I don't exactly know what I deleted so I don't know what to search for to help myself. [10:01:34] hi [10:05:38] <[PRO]Lifixs_> Can anyone help me? [10:09:53] i might be able to [10:10:40] [PRO]Lifixs, can you access the deletion log? [10:11:05] im not a dev, just a user who sometimes frequents this channel [10:11:20] Special:Log/delete [10:11:45] 03purodha * r47030 10/trunk/extensions/SmoothGallery/SmoothGallery.i18n.php: Capital "S" in "JavaScript" [10:13:10] <[PRO]Lifixs_> it restores the text but not the side bar and everything [10:13:28] <[PRO]Lifixs_> http://71.71.224.132/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [10:21:15] http://71.71.224.132/skins/monobook/main.css?164 [10:21:26] the stylepath isn't finding anything [10:21:38] http://71.71.224.132/wiki/skins/monobook/main.css?164 [10:21:40] it does there though [10:21:45] change your stylepath to include /wiki [10:22:24] <[PRO]Lifixs_> thanks :) [10:26:30] could someone help me with a filesize() problem in uploads? [10:29:33] <[PRO]Lifixs_> I changed it to $wgStylePath = '/wiki/skins'; ///< defaults to "{$wgScriptPath}/skins" [10:29:39] <[PRO]Lifixs_> Still nothing [10:33:43] <[PRO]Lifixs_> sorry im so hopeless [10:35:18] [PRO]Lifixs_: try hard reload (ctrl+shift+r) on main page [10:36:26] <[PRO]Lifixs_> just now fixed [10:36:37] <[PRO]Lifixs_> thanks, for your help [10:39:15] hello, what would people suggest i use as a contact from extension? Or, better put, what is the best Contact Form extension I could use? [10:52:30] 03siebrand * r47031 10/trunk/extensions/FramedVideo/ (FramedVideo.class.php FramedVideo.php): Partial revert of r46994. No more class. Bad testing on my side. [10:58:11] 03(mod) Some errors with PHP 5.3.0. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17407 (10xtzgzorex) [10:59:06] 14(WFM) Wrong counting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17417 +comment (10markus) [11:17:49] 03(mod) BASEPAGENAME and SUBPAGENAME do not output properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17411 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [11:45:08] 04(REOPENED) Wrong counting - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17417 +comment (10dasch_87) [11:47:59] 03(mod) Wrong counting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17417 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [11:48:30] 03(mod) Ordered list starts with the wrong number - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17417 major->minor; summary (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [11:51:23] 03(mod) No indication in which language input should be - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16670 (10krixel) [11:55:50] 03ialex * r47032 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/configure.pg.sql: Change config_setting unique index to primary key, as in MySQL schema [11:57:47] 03(mod) Ordered list starts with the wrong number - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17417 (10dasch_87) [12:07:15] 03(NEW) Gecko, WebKit and Opera image left thumb mispositioning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17423 minor; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (koltie) [12:40:08] 03raymond * r47033 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: Follow up r47025: Add new message [12:54:34] Hello, I have an issue with MediaWiki 1.13.2. I normally use Auth_remoteuser (which works), but I need one user with a predefined password. So I disabled Auth_remoteuser in Local_settings and created a new user with a blank password. When I want to change this password I get the error: password is too short, use at least 0 characters. Any idea where I need to look for this issue? [12:59:17] 03ialex * r47034 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.page.php Configure.php): (bug 17403) Boolean settings set to false when the default value is true is now properly recognised [13:00:42] 03ialex * r47035 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/CHANGELOG: Fixed typo in CHANGELOG from last rev [13:00:59] 03(FIXED) Boolean configuration not saved for extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17403 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [13:28:26] 03catrope * r47036 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (4 files): Fix some more regressions from r46845 reported by Brad Jorsch on the mediawiki-api list [13:28:44] Okay so I have mediawiki installed and working.. I created a wiki help on caaching dns server.. how do i get it noticed on the web if somebody searches for the how to? [13:30:25] A better ? how do I get hits on the page I created? Or how do I get noticed. in yahoo search etc. [13:41:14] 03(NEW) Bug vuze - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17424 04CRIT; normal; Wiktionary tools: General; (voyoustar) [13:51:54] 14(INVALID) Bug vuze - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17424 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [13:57:59] how do i access the Special:Rights page? [13:58:54] you mean Special:Userrights? [13:58:56] with a bureaucrat-flagged account ? [13:58:58] yes [13:59:12] with what ever i can [13:59:26] the initial acocunt should have that right [13:59:36] http://wikiserver/Special:Userrights <-? [13:59:52] im looking for the access path [14:00:09] well, we can't possibly access http://wikiserver/ from here. [14:00:20] i know :) [14:00:21] it's obviously something on your local network :) [14:00:31] im just asking whats the path i need to insert [14:00:42] the rest depend where you put is compared to that link [14:00:54] and wether you have the "pretty url" enabled [14:01:01] when i insert it that it gives me 404 [14:01:06] if you access the index, what link is it ? [14:01:09] the default page [14:01:19] http:///Special:userrights [14:01:28] that's NOT the default page :) [14:01:40] Special:userrights is a specific page [14:01:43] http:///index.php?titl=main_page [14:01:47] okay [14:01:50] title* [14:01:55] then I assume "pretty url" isn't enable [14:01:56] d [14:02:00] yup [14:02:06] and the link is http:///index.php?title=Special:userrights [14:02:42] GREAT :D [14:02:45] thank you very much [14:02:51] 're welcome :) [14:03:15] now to the next step why the ldap extension doesnt give me the sysop group even though it find that i am in the sysop :S [14:03:17] you can also access it using the "special pages" link at the bottom of the left bar [14:03:46] uh [14:03:52] yeah [14:04:07] I used LDAP too but the right were managed on the wiki, not on the LDAP (which just provided the account name and passowrd) [14:04:20] yes that what i mean [14:04:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Windows_NTLM_LDAP_Auto_Auth [14:04:37] then you have to add that right to each person manually, using the page you were looking for :) [14:04:39] thats the extension i use [14:04:46] uuh [14:05:12] I think I used one that was simlpler :) [14:05:17] O_o [14:05:20] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication [14:05:23] can you link me please [14:05:44] well, that looked simpler to me back then :) [14:05:53] heh [14:06:11] btw the link i gave you, i made it work [14:06:14] Hello, I have an issue with MediaWiki 1.13.2. I normally use Auth_remoteuser (which works), but I need one user with a predefined password. So I disabled Auth_remoteuser in Local_settings and created a new user with a blank password. When I want to change this password I get the error: password is too short, use at least 0 characters. Any idea where I need to look for this issue? [14:06:41] it binds to the AD and gets all the data and tells me it adds me to the group... BUT it fails :S [14:06:54] rick_w you created a new user... directly in the database ? [14:06:59] i always gets user rights by defaulty [14:07:03] No, via the official way [14:07:09] it tells you to add to the group ? that's weird [14:07:23] rick_w try creating another account ? [14:07:32] 03catrope * r47037 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryUserContributions.php: [14:07:32] API: Fix up r46825: [14:07:32] * put the tables in the right order [14:07:32] * JOIN on user_text as well for better index usage [14:07:32] * Force the index on the recentchanges table as well [14:07:33] * Don't ORDER BY rev_user_text if it's constant [14:07:43] Creating an account _with_ a password generates the same error [14:07:58] okay, that's weird [14:08:20] dunno about auth_remoteuser, sorry [14:08:28] np, thnx! [14:08:53] DarkoNeko: well thanks for the help if all fails ill try your extension :) [14:09:03] ^^ [14:09:36] also CrushKingX, try using an independant LDAP client, something simple, to test wether the config you put really works correctly [14:09:45] it cold be something o nthis side [14:09:49] I know, I've been there :) [14:09:56] it could* [14:11:03] 03(mod) Hooks SkinAfterBottomScripts Not Executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17402 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:12:21] nah the AD works just fine [14:12:42] 03jojo * r47038 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.templates.php): removed logo of pod partner [14:12:42] (i see it by the log output of the extension) [14:13:14] by the log all should work just fine [14:13:21] but it doesnt :S [14:17:04] 03catrope * r47039 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [14:17:04] * API: (bug 17357) Add subpage moving to the API [14:17:04] * Added Title::moveSubpages() as a backend function [14:17:04] ** Didn't update SpecialMovepage to use this; left to braver souls [14:17:04] * Fix handling of errors on talk page move (will backport) [14:20:49] 03(FIXED) move subpages support missing from ApiMove.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17357 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:27:06] 03(NEW) Prtoblem with passing object back from UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17425 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (puhelin09) [14:27:46] 03(mod) Prtoblem with passing object back from UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17425 (10puhelin09) [14:29:35] 03(mod) Prtoblem with passing object back from UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17425 (10puhelin09) [14:32:01] 03siebrand * r47040 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (GlobalFunctions.php Pager.php): [14:32:02] * remove forgotten case of hard coded pipe separator in Pager [14:32:02] * fix bug in GlobalFunctions.php introduced in r47028. pipeList() needs to be fed an array. [14:39:54] 03catrope * r47041 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiBase.php ApiMove.php): Backport part of r47039: fix handling of errors on API talk page move [14:42:32] So how to you get your wiki server noticed on the web? [14:45:38] I am brand new at mediawiki.. I have been messing with it for hours pretty cool.. I got and running and am learning.. Strange kind of scripting but fun... Gentoo Wiki lost thier database. I wasw writing wiki's of subjects that I know..But how do you get them published to a search engine? [14:47:35] Hi, I've this warning "The program invokes a function that can overwrite global variables, which can open the door for attackers." on file Skin.php line 535. I've analized the code, but i don't see any of it. What do you think about this security warning ? [14:47:50] !mytoolsaysyousuck | mib_zrz8lj [14:47:50] --mwbot-- mib_zrz8lj: Warnings thrown by code auditing tools like Fortify are mostly nonsense. Unless you understand the MediaWiki code and know what you're talking about, don't ask us about every warning you get. [14:48:10] RoanKattouw, maybe that message key should be renamed to something less confrontational. [14:48:25] Simetrical: It's an alias of !audit [14:48:32] (one I happen to like :P ) [14:48:38] Not a very friendly alias. [14:48:43] Mhm [14:49:06] I know how global variable works, butI just wanna be secure.... [14:49:46] mib_zrz8lj: What's line 535? [14:49:56] just a moment... [14:50:18] extract( $wgRequest->getValues( 'oldid', 'redirect', 'diff' ) ); [14:50:48] it's used in the function getBodyOptions() [14:50:55] Simetrical: BTW, I wrote (rather, copypasted) your subpage move code to a backend function called Title::moveSubpages() and used it in the API, but I'm not brave enough to migrate the UI to it [14:51:00] *RoanKattouw kinda hoped you could do that [14:51:12] mib_zrz8lj: It's bad style, but it's not dangerous [14:52:07] so any global variables are overwritted ? [14:52:09] mib_zrz8lj, MediaWiki has no known security vulnerabilities. If any security vulnerability becomes known, a patch is released for it ASAP and public announced on mediawiki-announce-l. [14:53:13] RoanKattouw, you could put some FIXMEs in the UI code (both in SpecialMovepage.php and SpecialRenameuser.php) saying that someone should do that. [14:53:22] Yeah I guess so [14:57:38] Meh, 27 uses of extract() in the includes/ directory [14:57:58] extract() is ugly and confusing. [14:58:03] Oh wait, half of those hits are really FIXMEs saying the extracts should go xD [14:58:06] I don't think it's particularly insecure, though. [14:58:20] No, we hardly ever use it in an insecure way, but it is ugl [14:58:22] y [14:58:23] Simetrical: it's like exec, it's not insecure, but it's easy to use wrongly [14:58:32] (by accident) [14:59:23] yksinaisyyteni, do you mean eval()? [14:59:57] probably.. although actually, it applies to exec too [15:00:08] Yes, technically, but usually a little less avoidably. [15:00:47] Anyway, it seems like extract would only be insecure if you extracted an array that the user somehow provided the keys for. Like extract($_REQUEST), which is basically register_globals (but on steroids, if you run it late in the script). [15:01:17] There is another danger when combining extract() with register_globals=On [15:01:33] E.g. in the API, we used to do extract($this->extractRequestParams()); [15:01:53] *Simetrical combines eval() with chmod -R a+rwx / [15:01:55] The function call would return an array of parameters, but wouldn't have keys for parameters that the user omitted. [15:02:04] Therefore the corresponding variables aren't set [15:02:44] Hmm this is probably not the best example, but the point is that extract() may not set some vars under some conditions meaning they're RG-vulnerable [15:02:57] (which means you have to do ugly stuff like $var1 = $var2 = ... = $varn = null; ) [15:03:09] In which case you might as well skip the extract. [15:03:18] And just, like, use the actual array you're extracting? [15:03:20] Yeah, just realized it's not a good example [15:03:27] Yeah that's what we do now [15:03:27] Is it so hard to type out the array variables every time? [15:03:33] ($params['foo'] instead of $foo) [15:03:44] Not hard to me, but apparently hard to Yuri ;) [15:03:51] Or whoever wrote that code [15:12:32] buzz_: Thanks a lot for pointing out all those continue bugs [15:15:04] How can I embedd youtube videos in my wiki page? [15:15:33] FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [15:15:56] the NTLM LDAP extension is working!!! :D [15:16:03] 03catrope * r47042 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (api/ApiMove.php specials/SpecialMovepage.php): Remove a TODO from ApiMove and add a FIXME to SpecialMovepage [15:19:02] Is there a tool that will allow me to block many users at once? [15:19:13] I got spammed recently, and there are about 50 users I have to whack. [15:21:00] alester: I'm not aware of an extension that can do what you need. [15:22:53] How can I embed youtube videos in my wiki page? [15:23:25] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:YouTubeTag [15:23:40] hasn't been updated in a while, so no guarantees [15:23:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo [15:24:00] that one might be a better option [15:25:53] 03(mod) Prtoblem with passing object back from UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17425 15enhancement->04BLOCKER; +comment (10puhelin09) [15:29:17] 03(mod) Problem with passing object back from UserLoadFromSession hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17425 summary (10puhelin09) [15:33:38] chalcedony, I get a ton of errors with both extensions [15:33:51] chasingsol, I get a ton of errors with both extensions [15:36:34] backenfutter: don't know then. your best bet is to dig around www.wikimedia.org to see what extensions there are [15:41:15] 14(DUP) Ordered list starts with the wrong number - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17417 +comment (10markus) [15:41:18] 03(mod) Tidy sometimes goes ballistic when a block-level element is wrapped in an inline element - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9737 +comment (10markus) [15:42:39] <^demon> backenfutter: No, look on www.mediawiki.org for extensions. wikimedia.org is useless. [15:55:20] So I was thinking. An extension that is used in editing (EmbedVideo, for example) will still need to be included in LocalSettings.php as a require_once statement. That means the extension consumes resources even when simply displaying an article. Any way this can be avoided? [15:56:26] 03(mod) Log summaries are rendered differently to admins when contents have been concealed by RevisionDelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17060 (10happy_melon) [15:59:01] jazz_: No, and in general the resources you are talking about are trivial - therefore your effort would be better used improving efficiency in other areas. [15:59:54] Actually - I'm using FcKEditor and when I profile using Xdebug/KCacheGrind it tells me that the resources that fckeditor.php uses are not trivial [16:00:09] It's a pity there's no way around it though [16:00:18] i thought fckeditor was 99% javascript [16:00:31] I know - that's what I thought too [16:00:39] jazz_: a good extension will use lazy loading, and the require_once will only need a small amount of processing [16:00:51] the rest of the extension is loaded when needed [16:00:54] *MinuteElectron looks [16:00:58] But I think it uses Javascript only to convert to HTML and then uses PHP to convert to Wiki syntax [16:01:46] FCKeditor appears to load an object on every page view, that is reidicuolous. [16:02:17] FCKeditor uses the PHP parser, IIRC. [16:02:26] Rather than trying to duplicate it in JavaScript. [16:04:15] i'll search for FCK alternatives now [16:05:04] any recommendations? [16:06:57] 04(REOPENED) Ordered list starts with the wrong number - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17417 +comment (10dasch_87) [16:24:16] 03siebrand * r47044 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Skin.php skins/CologneBlue.php skins/Standard.php): Remove hard coding of pipe separators in skins. Use Language::pipeList as much as possible. Should also make code a bit more readable here and there. [16:34:53] 03demon * r47045 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialExport.php: Per code review, bit of cleanup to Special:Export. [16:42:53] Is aaron online sometimes? [16:46:37] Forrester: Yes. He seems to be online now but hasn't joined a channel. See also /whois AaronSchulz [16:49:30] 03(mod) Installation of Extension:Gadgets and Extension: Collection for sl.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17409 (10smihael) [17:09:50] 03(NEW) Need Extensions in ml.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17426 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (sadik.khalid) [17:17:19] 03(mod) Need Extensions in ml.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17426 +shell; +comment (10Platonides) [17:36:29] 03(mod) Need Extensions in ml.wikipedia.org - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17426 (10sadik.khalid) [17:41:04] is there anybody,who can help me installtion and running of image majick on my wiki.. PLEASE [17:41:31] Mr-Fine: maybe [17:41:36] what is the problem [17:41:55] i dont know how can i install it and then run it [17:42:03] !imagemajick [17:42:03] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "imagemajick". [17:42:07] !imagemagick [17:42:07] --mwbot-- ImageMagick is a software which can be used with MediaWiki Image Administration. You can read more about it on . ImageMagick is available from . [17:43:11] you can see, there are many files in each source. do i need to download them all??? [17:43:36] Mr-Fine: if you don't want to use the source, use one of these: http://imagemagick.org/script/binary-releases.php [17:43:42] should be way easier [17:43:46] and once i donwload them, where I'll have to put them and what else, I 'll have to configure so it can run [17:44:09] Any MW developers around? [17:44:14] the binary release should install itself [17:44:48] which one you suggst to me? [17:44:57] and ImageMagick is awesome... install it, for shrinking down images to thumbnails it is far superior to GD [17:45:01] there are still alot. but thanks god not seprate [17:45:18] GD generated thumbnails always look lame :/ [17:45:23] Zorg [17:45:33] why you looking for MW developer? [17:45:47] I'm just curious what software they use to run their multi-developer enviroment. [17:45:53] Prodego: you get me? [17:46:00] hehehe [17:46:14] mm? [17:46:29] Zorg`: you mean for reviewing the code? [17:46:30] As I'm starting a project that requires multiple people to be able to work on it at the same time, so want to know the best software to do it. :) [17:46:49] there are still alot. but thanks god not seprate [17:46:53] which one you suggst to me? [17:47:04] I assume you have something that monitors file versions, changes by developers, etc. [17:47:27]