[00:03:48] <backenfutter>	is there a way to tell wiki to do the line breaks as I've pasted them?
[00:04:03] <backenfutter>	it's an irc log and it just writes it all through, not line by line...
[00:04:57] <Platonides>	backenfutter, place into <pre> or <poem>
[00:05:53] <backenfutter>	Platonides: thx
[00:13:28] <Platonides>	:)
[00:14:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Titleblacklist entires with <newaccountonly> should affect automatically created accounts with SUL too - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14629  (10mikelifeguard)
[00:18:46] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r47475 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (AbuseFilter.class.php AbuseFilter.i18n.php): Another silly reautoconfirm bug -- nothing was being returned.
[00:22:08] <chuck>	Is there any way to access the database with the AdminSettings.php login credentials inside of an extension
[00:22:53] <Emachman>	chuck: why would you need to?
[00:23:03] <chuck>	I need to create a database
[00:23:18] <Emachman>	chuck: if you're writing an extension, that's what the .sql file is for
[00:23:30] <OverlordQ>	there's a hook for that
[00:23:32] <OverlordQ>	iirc
[00:23:34] <chuck>	I know what I need to do, I just need to know how to do it
[00:23:48] *Emachman 	looks up the hooks
[00:24:04] <CIA-60>	03tparscal * r47476 10/trunk/tools/WikipediaStatistics/ (LocalSettings.php index.php):
[00:25:47] <OverlordQ>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/LoadExtensionSchemaUpdates
[00:25:53] *werdnum 	teaches TrevorParscal about commit messages
[00:26:09] <TrevorParscal>	ha.. sorry.... 
[00:26:37] <OverlordQ>	take a look at CheckUser if  you need an example
[00:31:11] <CIA-60>	03tparscal * r47477 10/trunk/tools/WikipediaStatistics/: Added LocalSettings.php to ignore list.
[00:35:12] <werdnum>	TrevorParscal: I has ur db passw0rd :o
[00:35:22] <TrevorParscal>	?
[00:36:16] <werdnum>	oh, I thought that LocalSettings.php was your wiki config
[00:36:39] <TrevorParscal>	ha... you wish!
[00:37:17] <TrevorParscal>	it was just a blank file, but then I made a config (sorta media wiki style) that generates it, so yeah... no db passwords on the SVN today...
[00:37:37] <werdnum>	bah!
[00:37:55] <jazz>	What happens if file caching of pages is enabled and a logged in user access a page that is (1)already cached, and (2) not cached yet. In both 1 and 2 - does the page cache get refreshed/generated? I don't show ads to logged in users, hence the question
[00:40:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wikibits includes nonexistent stylesheet, KHTMLfixes.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14717  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[00:49:22] <jazz>	Does anyone know - What happens if file caching of pages is enabled and a logged in user accesses a page that is (1)already cached, and (2) not cached yet. In both 1 and 2 - does the page cache get refreshed/generated? I don't show ads to logged in users, hence the question
[00:50:34] <p858snake>	i do not believe logged in users get the cache
[00:55:15] <jazz>	p858snake: I know they don't see the cached page. But does the page that they see get cached for others?
[00:55:37] <jazz>	My test env is all wonky and cache isn't working so i can't figure it out.
[00:56:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Backlinks output format changed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17563 normal; normal; MediaWiki: API; (mrzmanwiki)
[01:12:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Turn off zlib.output_compression for 304 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17537  +comment (10edwardzyang)
[01:13:48] <ezyang>	Is there anyone here with commit access willing to commit the patch to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17537
[01:14:11] <OverlordQ>	if it's supposed to turn compression off with 304 headers why do you mix 0 and true?
[01:14:21] <ezyang>	That was a typo :-/
[01:14:45] <ezyang>	OverlordQ: I posted an updated patch
[01:14:48] <OverlordQ>	:)
[01:15:16] <ezyang>	Actually, I could have sworn I caught that typo before I uploaded, but apparently not
[01:16:48] <ezyang>	So, how does it look?
[01:27:15] <ezyang>	Anyone?
[01:29:26] *brion 	is multitasking, and may be swapping out some processes :)
[01:35:05] <Marybelle>	MrZ-man: The backlinks bug, I wonder if I should be worried about that giving me false negatives...
[01:35:26] <MrZ-man>	what are you trying to do?
[01:35:38] <Marybelle>	I run a deletion script that checks backlinks to the page.
[01:50:21] <Emachman>	Argh!!!!!
[01:50:23] <Emachman>	Damn IE...
[02:01:32] <ezyang>	brion: Whenever you have a free moment
[02:11:07] <CIA-60>	03tstarling * r47478 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (BacklinkCache.php LinksUpdate.php): Don't do any backlink batches if there are no backlinks.
[02:26:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add showcsv option to table format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17564 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (david.macdonald)
[02:27:21] <chuck>	am I able to put regular strings into the interwiki table?
[02:30:48] <TimStarling>	regular in what sense?
[02:37:09] <chuck>	TimStarling: nevermind
[03:01:43] <ezyang>	(so quiet in here)
[03:02:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Backlinks output format changed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17563  (10b-jorsch)
[03:02:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Backlinks output format changed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17563   +patch (10b-jorsch)
[03:03:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Backlinks output format changed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17563  (10edwardzyang)
[03:05:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Date format for OTRS should be changed to reduce confusion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15626  (10tstarling)
[03:06:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Backlinks output format changed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17563  (10b-jorsch)
[03:08:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Backlinks output format changed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17563  (10b-jorsch)
[03:20:30] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Notification messages not being sent despite preferences being set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17340  +comment (10tstarling)
[03:27:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Virus emails reaching otrs queues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17301  +comment (10tstarling)
[03:40:54] <eghjaytee>	hey if I wanted to back up my images directory, could I exclude the thumb directory? Wont these get re-generated?
[03:47:18] <ezyang>	eghjaytee: Yes, the thumb directory will get regenerated
[03:47:44] <eghjaytee>	okay cool
[03:52:44] <CIA-60>	03tstarling * r47479 10/trunk/otrs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix for bug 17278.
[03:54:24] <eghjaytee>	ezyang: what is the purpose of the tmp directory in images? There are a ton of files in there that are .tex and others with no file extension
[03:57:33] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) AgentTicketCustomer doesn't show tickets anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17278  +comment (10tstarling)
[03:57:55] <ezyang>	TeX seems to indicate <math> rendering.
[04:00:54] <eghjaytee>	I can probably exclude these files as well
[04:00:54] <techman224>	Does anyone how how to use $wgConf for centralauth in localsettings.php?
[04:01:05] <eghjaytee>	I think they were from an old captcha extension
[04:08:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikimedia contact form does not like + in the email address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15624  (10tstarling)
[04:11:11] <ezyang>	techman224: Have you tried reading the docs?
[04:11:25] <techman224>	ezyang, yes
[04:11:43] <techman224>	So far i have $wgLocalDatabases = array( 'testwiki');
[04:11:44] <techman224>	$wgConf = new SiteConfiguration;
[04:11:44] <techman224>	$wgConf->wikis = $wgLocalDatabases;
[04:11:55] <techman224>	and require_once "$IP/InitialiseSettings.php";
[04:12:12] <techman224>	Now I'm stuck
[04:12:48] <ezyang>	Sorry, can't help you then
[04:24:01] <TimStarling>	I'm thinking about the possibility of a depedency tracker for PPFrame_*::expand()
[04:24:09] <TimStarling>	similar to the one I wrote for CBT years ago
[04:25:46] <TimStarling>	maybe it's too big a project to be starting when I've got so many other things to do
[04:26:00] <TimStarling>	we can just throw hardware at the problem
[04:26:04] <Prodego>	and money
[04:26:13] <Prodego>	or werdnum 
[04:43:44] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47480 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/RatingHistory_body.php: graph handling tweaks
[04:48:13] <Alex_NH>	Hi !
[04:48:32] <Alex_NH>	Has anyone some experience in using the extension AmazonPlus in a template ?
[05:03:01] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Transwiki import interwiki setup on Korean Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17516  +comment (10jeluf)
[05:06:47] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add WQ: as an alias for Wikiquote: namespace on Simple English Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17526  +comment (10jeluf)
[05:21:09] <antiPoP>	hi, where does mediawiki store the images, in teh db in disk...?
[05:21:20] <antiPoP>	im looking at: 12http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Mediawiki-database-schema.png
[05:21:27] <antiPoP>	but I can see it clearly
[05:21:31] <antiPoP>	i can't
[05:21:55] <TimStarling>	the disk
[05:26:37] <werdnum>	what's up?
[05:26:58] <werdnum>	ah, just Prodego using my name in vain.
[05:27:10] <Administrivia>	hmm?
[05:27:22] <Administrivia>	I've used this nick for a while actually, it is registered to me
[05:28:09] <Splarka>	<Pro\dego> or wer\dnum 
[05:28:30] <werdnum>	04:26 < Prodego> or werdnum 
[05:28:33] <werdnum>	Using my name in vain
[05:28:45] <Administrivia>	ah yes
[05:29:00] <Administrivia>	throwing werdnum at the problem is for when we run out of money
[05:29:14] <Administrivia>	either that or maybe we only throw money when we run out of werdnums
[05:29:18] <Administrivia>	I always forget...
[05:29:27] <Administrivia>	good night werd
[05:30:10] *werdnum 	is not all that great at performancy stuff
[05:30:11] <werdnum>	night
[05:34:07] <ezyang>	night
[05:34:21] *ezyang 	failed at getting the patch applied today
[05:34:26] *ezyang 	will try again tomorrow
[05:38:14] <slithytove2006>	rawrr @werdnum
[05:38:25] <antiPoP>	4[TimStarling4] ok thanks
[05:39:20] <slithytove2006>	le sigh. i have to wait till march for GSOC
[05:50:49] <zu22>	hi, i already have a wiki instance installed in  /var/lib/mediawiki1.7, i want to setup a different wiki (on the same physical machine) so how do i go about setting this up?
[05:51:09] <slithytove2006>	using the same files, or using a different set?
[05:51:21] <zu22>	i don't have a preference
[05:51:24] <zu22>	i can do either way
[05:51:37] <slithytove2006>	would require some coding fun if you wanted to use the same files
[05:52:01] <slithytove2006>	if its ok to create a new copy of all the files, then do just that. extract the files to a new folder and set it up the same way you did the first
[05:52:38] <zu22>	slithytove2006: ok i thought maybe it would break if it wasn't named "mediawiki1.7" heh
[05:52:49] <slithytove2006>	nope. most installations use /w
[05:52:55] <zu22>	cool, thx
[05:53:15] <slithytove2006>	it can be named whatever you like. the setup script will determine the location and hard code it into localsettings.php
[05:53:16] <zu22>	i will be sure to use a different database prefix
[05:53:26] <zu22>	great
[06:41:49] <zu22>	i cannot get the logo to appear in mediawiki-1.13.4 , in LocalSettings.php I added: $wgLogo             = "/var/www/mediawiki-1.13.4/skins/common/images/foo.png"; but it displays nothing now, i even went into includes/DefaultSettings.php and set: $wgLogo                         = true; 
[06:42:06] <werdnum>	!wg Logo
[06:42:06] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLogo
[06:42:12] <werdnum>	is a URL PATH, not a local path
[06:42:17] <zu22>	oh
[06:42:26] <werdnum>	so it needs to be a URL (relative or absolute) at which the image for the logo is accessible
[06:42:27] <slithytove2006>	$wglogo should be a path relative to the page viewed, not the computer
[06:42:41] <werdnum>	no, it should not be relative
[06:42:42] <Splarka>	relative is bad
[06:42:58] <werdnum>	It *can* be, but absolute is much better.
[06:42:58] <slithytove2006>	it is inserted as <img src="$wgLogo">, mostly..
[06:43:05] <zu22>	how come $wgLogo appears in mediawiki 1.7 LocaleSettings.php but wass removed for mediawiki 1.13 ??!
[06:43:08] <werdnum>	Well, not really
[06:43:12] <werdnum>	but close enough
[06:43:22] <slithytove2006>	@werdnum,  for these purposes...
[06:43:30] <werdnum>	zu22: been moved to Setup.php -- you should still set it in LocalSettings.php
[06:43:37] <zu22>	werdnum: oh
[06:44:01] <slithytove2006>	@werdnum: is there a reason why absolute is better than relative? i just defaulted to relative..
[06:44:17] <Splarka>	!logo
[06:44:17] --mwbot--	The logo that appears in the top left of each page is determined by $wgLogo in the LocalSettings.php file. To change this you simply change the value of $wgLogo to point to the URL of your own logo. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLogo> for more information. Be sure $wgLogo is set to an absolute path, starting with "/" (or a protocol "http:"/"https:"). If you are using pretty URLs a relative path will behave oddly.
[06:44:29] <werdnum>	slithytove2006: Because your pages and your scripts and so on are in different directories
[06:44:42] <zu22>	my image is 230x229 pixels
[06:44:45] <zu22>	is that too big?
[06:44:52] <slithytove2006>	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE
[06:45:09] <Splarka>	compare http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:BlankPage to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:BlankPage
[06:45:13] <slithytove2006>	that depends zu22
[06:45:55] <slithytove2006>	the space used in monobook is 135x135. if you are using a custom skin, then build your skin to suit
[06:46:07] <Splarka>	even, say, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:BlankPage/these/are/some/slashes/ is valid, so a logo like ../skins/Logo.png is bad juju
[06:46:17] <zu22>	i am new to wiki, no idea how to build a custom skin
[06:46:26] <slithytove2006>	if you are using monobook, you either need to shrink your logo or customize monobook
[06:46:28] <zu22>	it says on the wiki "he logo is expected to be 135 x 135 pixels, but this can be increased by modifying the site CSS" but it doesn't explain *how* to do this heh
[06:46:44] <Splarka>	135x135 is very conservative, the space is actually 160 x 12em
[06:46:48] <zu22>	i downloaded it from mediawiki.org
[06:46:49] <Splarka>	well, 12em x 160px
[06:46:55] <slithytove2006>	it is, splarka?
[06:46:55] <zu22>	no clue what monobook is
[06:47:00] <Splarka>	#column-one {
[06:47:01] <Splarka>		padding-top: 160px;
[06:47:08] <Splarka>	#p-logo {
[06:47:11] <Splarka>		width: 12em;
[06:47:12] <slithytove2006>	monobook is the name of the default skin
[06:47:25] <zu22>	oh
[06:47:44] <zu22>	so what file do i edit to chyange "padding-top: 160px;" to 230px for my image?
[06:47:48] <slithytove2006>	to modify the space, find the lines splarka has just printed inside /w/skins/monobook/main.css and modify
[06:47:55] <zu22>	thanks
[06:48:00] <Splarka>	ack
[06:48:01] <Splarka>	no
[06:48:03] <Splarka>	don't edit that
[06:48:05] <zu22>	oh
[06:48:06] <slithytove2006>	no?
[06:48:08] <slithytove2006>	o. sorry
[06:48:14] <slithytove2006>	make a copy, then edit?
[06:48:14] <Splarka>	!css
[06:48:14] --mwbot--	To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration>
[06:48:31] <Splarka>	if you edit main.css then you have to manually merge changes every time you upgrade
[06:48:36] <Splarka>	and that is annoying
[06:48:52] <zu22>	oh man i am too tired to handle this now, gonna go to sleep, will tackle it tomorrow, thx :)
[06:48:53] <Splarka>	if you have just one wiki, just edit it ON the wiki, per the pages above
[06:48:53] <slithytove2006>	or just make a custom skin and be done with monobook...
[06:49:16] <zu22>	slithtove2006: how do i make and use a custom skin?
[06:49:20] <zu22>	that sounds like the ticket
[06:49:27] <Splarka>	you're definitely too tired for that
[06:49:31] <zu22>	heh
[06:49:34] <slithytove2006>	quite..
[06:49:41] <zu22>	can you spam a URL i can follow tomorrow
[06:49:42] <Splarka>	see !skins when you aren't sleepy
[06:49:46] <zu22>	ok :D
[06:49:50] <zu22>	thx guys bye
[06:49:54] <Splarka>	rar
[06:50:04] <slithytove2006>	!skins
[06:50:04] --mwbot--	Overview: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins>. Skin usage: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Skins>. Gallery of CSS styles: <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles>. Writing your own: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning>
[06:50:23] <slithytove2006>	(i figured it out myself.. didnt occur to check to see if there was much of a documentation....)
[06:50:50] <Splarka>	http://toolserver.org/%7Eamidaniel/botbrain.html
[06:51:01] <Splarka>	*zombie grunt*
[06:51:50] <slithytove2006>	brainzz....
[06:55:02] <slithytove2006>	<3 w3schools.com
[07:00:38] <Splarka>	<sarcasm style="intellectual-age:5yr;intellectual-age-max:7yr;weight:bold;expected-exclamation:groan;">If you love it so much <pause/><point type="dersive" dir="speakee"> why don't you <inflection>marry</inflection> it</sarcasm>
[07:01:04] <Splarka>	(1 parse error left in for pedants)
[07:01:40] <werdnum>	XML is not well-formed -- <point> tag is unclosed.
[07:01:57] <werdnum>	XML is not valid -- inflection element missing required 'type' attribute.
[07:02:32] <werdnum>	Strict Standards Warning -- Inline style on <sarcasm> element, should be implemented with a class and stylesheet.
[07:02:58] <werdnum>	XML is not valid -- Invalid value 'dersive' for attribute 'type' on <point> element.
[07:03:01] <Splarka>	yep, there is the pedant
[07:03:12] *Splarka 	gives werd a life
[07:03:15] <werdnum>	3 Errors, 1 Warning. XML NOT VALID
[07:03:45] <Splarka>	<sarcasm>no shit sherlock</sarcasm>
[07:03:59] <Splarka>	http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2386249086_957216965b.jpg
[07:04:01] <Splarka>	heh
[07:16:00] <CIA-60>	03tstarling * r47481 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/runJobs.php: Basic multiprocess operation via pcntl_fork()
[07:42:23] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Atom/RSS feeds for user contributions should (only?) contain the diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17565 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (Wiki.Melancholie)
[07:42:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646  (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[07:56:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Consider using CDATA or type="xhtml" for Atom feeds instead of escaping special characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17566 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (Wiki.Melancholie)
[07:56:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646  (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[08:32:34] <shortc|desk>	Now that's terrible.  The bot I wrote to keep the list of unimplemented tasks on my wiki up-to-date maintains two templates for every language on the site. (Currently 129, I think.)
[08:32:44] <shortc|desk>	Marvel at my stupidity here: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/User:ImplSearchBot/Code
[08:32:48] <shortc|desk>	And I need sleep.
[08:32:50] <shortc|desk>	g'night.
[08:33:00] <shortc|desk>	Leave comments on the bot's code talk page, if you're so inclined.
[08:41:42] <kraut>	moin
[08:43:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Consider using CDATA for RSS/Atom feeds or type="xhtml" for Atom feeds instead of escaping special characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17566  summary; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[08:43:51] <CIA-60>	03raymond * r47482 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialImport.php): (log message trimmed)
[08:43:51] <CIA-60>	* Some cleanup for Special:Import:
[08:43:51] <CIA-60>	** Do not show input field for import depth if $wgExportMaxLinkDepth == 0
[08:43:51] <CIA-60>	** Add missing 'mw-label' for 2 labels
[08:43:51] <CIA-60>	** Change class 'mw-label' to 'mw-submit' for the submit button for consistency with other forms
[08:43:55] <CIA-60>	** Remove FIXME note as nothing to fix :)
[08:43:57] <CIA-60>	** Add IDs to input forms
[09:07:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikimedia contact form does not like + in the email address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15624  (10walter)
[09:09:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) deleteDefaultMessages.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17567 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (servien)
[09:09:05] <siebrand>	oi. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_quick_download displays incorrect 'current' svn links. Can someone with proper rights please fix that (or provide me with the proper rights to fix)?
[09:11:19] <werdnum>	    * 09:11, 19 February 2009 Werdna (Talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for User:Siebrand from Coders and Administrators to Coders, Administrators and Bureaucrats ‎
[09:11:23] <werdnum>	    * 09:10, 19 February 2009 Werdna (Talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for User:Siebrand from (none) to Administrators and Coders ‎
[09:11:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) deleteDefaultMessages.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17567  +comment (10siebrand)
[09:16:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikimedia contact form does not like + in the email address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15624  (10tstarling)
[09:22:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) deleteDefaultMessages.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17567  (10servien)
[09:28:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) deleteDefaultMessages.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17567  (10siebrand)
[09:29:01] <siebrand>	werdnum: thanks\
[09:48:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Run deleteDefaultMessages.php on nds-nl Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17567  summary (10public)
[10:32:57] <tylerknowsthis>	does anyone know of any customizations to mediawiki that lets you password protect individual pages from being edited?
[10:36:12] <Splarka>	why not use the in-built protection levels? or do you want people to be able to password protect pages they create?
[10:38:13] <tylerknowsthis>	yeah, i'm trying to allow individual pages to have their own passwords required to make edits ... but perhaps I should further research mediawiki's default stuff
[10:38:52] <OverlordQ>	dont think you'll find anything like that for MW
[10:38:57] <CIA-60>	03midom * r47483 10/trunk/phase3/includes/BacklinkCache.php: I have no idea why I'm doing this, but this has to be done, force order on *links,page reads
[10:39:04] <Splarka>	there are some weird extensions out there
[10:39:33] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserPageEditProtection  sorta
[10:42:01] <tylerknowsthis>	hmm, that one seems particular to individual's user pages
[10:42:50] <Splarka>	hence "sorta"
[10:45:08] <Splarka>	see also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Page_specific_user_rights_extensions
[10:55:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikimedia contact form does not like + in the email address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15624  (10walter)
[11:20:44] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r47484 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: No need to get a DB object since we don't use it there
[11:45:21] <bdmm>	hi, I have set up a wiki which I am now in the process of filling in with content. I have hit a problem though, as I can no longer upload images. It worked yesterday, but when I try it now I get "Dit bestand heeft geen extensie (zoals ".jpg")", which translates to "This file has no extension (like .jpg)". Of course they do, and I have tried uploading a file that I succesfully uploaded yesterday. I can't remember altering any settings yesterday, so I don't
[11:45:21] <bdmm>	 know where to start looking for this issue. Can someone point me in the right direction please?
[11:46:06] <Marybelle>	Does the file have an extension when you try to upload it?
[11:47:18] <bdmm>	yes it does, it was originally a jpg. When that failed I saved it again as a png because I thought it might have been the file
[11:47:35] <bdmm>	all files now give this error though, gif, jpg and png alike
[11:47:36] <Marybelle>	Try a different file?
[11:47:43] <bdmm>	as mentioned, I did
[11:47:44] <Marybelle>	Hmm.
[11:52:37] <bdmm>	If only I knew which check triggered that error, I could perhaps find where it goes wrong
[11:58:15] <oliebol>	hi. Is there a way to have a multiline (<br> in html) item in a list?
[11:59:48] <Splarka>	HTML lists
[11:59:48] <domas>	oliebol: did you try just putting <br /> ?
[11:59:58] <Splarka>	<ul><li>...</li></ul>
[12:00:25] <oliebol>	I mean in wiki. I putting html pages in the wiki
[12:00:46] <oliebol>	domas: yes, but that ends the list and starts a new paragraph in the wiki (but works in html)
[12:00:54] <oliebol>	I also tried colons.
[12:00:56] <oliebol>	Same problem
[12:01:07] <Splarka>	<ul><li>...</li></ul> is perfectly legal in wikicode
[12:01:28] <oliebol>	ok, then I'll try that instead of *
[12:01:50] <Splarka>	colons, semicolons... those make <dl>..<dd>..<dt>, somewhat an abuse of what they're for, heh
[12:03:25] <oliebol>	Ok, works, thansk
[12:03:55] <Splarka>	somewhere is an open bug to extend the syntax
[12:04:16] <spexi>	Hi! I added few custom tags to print bold and colored text, for example <gb> will print green and bold text. I followed this guide: http://planetozh.com/blog/2006/05/how-to-add-a-custom-function-to-mediawiki/ My problem is, that if I write straight to the wiki document <font color=red>, wiki automatically adds quotes <font color="red">. Well, when I create those alias tags, there is no quotes even if I add those quotes in to
[12:04:24] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9342
[12:04:39] <spexi>	It's just annoying when the code is not valid
[12:06:36] <bdmm>	spexi, couldn't you do create such a function using a template instead of custom tags?
[12:07:16] <wpedzich>	hmm, /me wonders.
[12:07:48] <spexi>	mm
[12:08:12] <spexi>	How is that done
[12:08:40] <bdmm>	let me see if I can whip something up
[12:09:17] <spexi>	ok :)
[12:14:20] <bdmm>	if you paste this into Template:Gb, you could use {{gb|s}} (s for start) to open the tags, {{gb|e}} (e for end) to close them
[12:14:21] <bdmm>	http://pastebin.com/m25da820a
[12:14:39] <bdmm>	untested, and I'm no expert, but I think it should work ;)
[12:16:04] <spexi>	Ok. Thanks, I'll try that. :)
[12:16:15] <CIA-60>	03siebrand * r47485 10/trunk/extensions/Todo/ (SpecialTodo.i18n.php SpecialTodo.php): Add parameter to 'todo-list-for'. Update messages.
[12:16:55] <bdmm>	oh, I forgot, you might need a mediawiki extension to be able to use #switch
[12:18:01] <bdmm>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions in case you don't have it yet
[12:20:02] <spexi>	ok, let's get that first
[12:23:20] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r47486 10/trunk/extensions/Farmer/Farmer.php: Added Special:Farmer to the "wiki" group in Special:Specialpages
[12:25:49] <CIA-60>	03rotem * r47487 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: Localization update for he.
[12:25:54] <spexi>	bdmm, it works great, thanks :)
[12:28:37] <Grudgie>	if I were to want to display a php file underneath the security/protection page (not sure what it is in english), where should I add it? is it an include I need to do somewhere ?
[12:33:13] <bdmm>	spexi, good to hear, you're welcome
[12:34:09] <bdmm>	Grudgie, do you mean to say you want to display a custom text on that page?
[12:38:19] <Grudgie>	its not just text
[12:38:27] <Grudgie>	we basically wrote a whitelistread editor
[12:38:32] <Grudgie>	and want to include it on that page
[12:38:45] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r47488 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (archives/patch-change_tag.sql updaters.inc): Added change_tag, tag_summary and valid_tag for the SQLite updater and made the patch work with SQLite
[12:38:48] <Grudgie>	surfing to the php file works fine, were just not sure how to get it to display where we want it to
[12:39:58] <bdmm>	hm, I don't think I can be of any help on that one, sorry
[12:45:21] <wpedzich>	Has anyone reported that the text frame goes AWOL when displaying large pages?
[12:45:55] *wpedzich 	know snot whether it's MediaWiki or Polish Wikipedia's CSS setup. Which, on the other hand is not that different from other wikis'
[12:46:01] <wpedzich>	knows not* :P
[12:53:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Limit display of revisions fails when not using short urls - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17568 minor; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (stwalkerster)
[13:04:55] <CIA-60>	03siebrand * r47489 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/languages/MV_Messages.php: Use kbit/s consistently.
[13:15:24] <CIA-60>	03siebrand * r47490 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (Lqt.i18n.php LqtBaseView.php): 
[13:15:24] <CIA-60>	* make date and time separate parameters for 'lqt_move_placeholder'
[13:15:24] <CIA-60>	* remove duplicate entry for 'lqt_move_placeholder'
[13:18:53] <siebrand>	werdnum: ping?
[13:38:42] <omnivibe>	I have $wgArticlePath set to /cojswiki, and $wgScriptPath set to /wiki, and some of the files (like the skin) are attempted to be loaded through /wiki, not /cojswiki... this is breaking my extensions... help? :)
[13:48:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Fatal Error in ThreadPermalinkView.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17553  (10dasch_87)
[13:50:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Fatal Error in ThreadPermalinkView.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17553  (10dasch_87)
[14:15:25] <CIA-60>	03yaron * r47491 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_LanguageDe_formal.php: New language file
[14:16:09] <CIA-60>	03yaron * r47492 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php: Another bug fix for language-initialization changed in version 1.5
[14:17:15] <CIA-60>	03yaron * r47493 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version: 1.5.2
[14:28:36] <Mohsen>	Hi, Is it possible to run the update script without commandline? I comment out the check for commandline in commandLine.inc file but it didn't work
[14:31:35] <flyingparchment>	rerun the installer
[14:31:46] <flyingparchment>	(you'll have to remove localsettings first, and restore any custom settings afterwards)
[14:38:33] <Mohsen>	I have some data in my db, doesn't it make problems/
[14:38:40] <Mohsen>	?
[14:41:43] <flyingparchment>	no
[14:41:48] <flyingparchment>	it will do the same thing as update.php
[14:42:03] <Simetrical>	Just make sure you put in the same DB info, I guess.
[14:42:08] <Simetrical>	!upgrade
[14:42:08] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[14:42:12] <Simetrical>	Instructions should be there.
[14:43:33] <Mohsen>	thanks
[15:20:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikimedia contact form does not like + in the email address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15624  (10tstarling)
[15:21:24] <Simetrical>	I hate applications that mess up my +-addresses.
[15:22:16] <Splarka>	"+-addressing is a privilege, not a right"
[15:22:56] <Simetrical>	The ability to use any RFC-compliant e-mail address is a right, not a privilege.
[15:23:13] <Simetrical>	You can't tell me I'm not allowed to use spaces and rely on case-sensitivity!
[15:23:14] <Simetrical>	Or use comments!
[15:23:21] <Simetrical>	Or omit the domain-name part!
[15:24:45] <flyingparchment>	my favourite error is: "email address is too long"
[15:25:50] <CIA-60>	03siebrand * r47494 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[15:25:51] <CIA-60>	* Add plural support for 'smw_wantedproperty_template'
[15:25:51] <CIA-60>	* remove some trailing whitespace in SMW_SpecialWantedProperties.php
[15:27:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikimedia contact form does not like + in the email address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15624  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[15:27:38] <TimStarling>	+ signs in addresses wasn't the only problem with that web form
[15:28:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Notification messages not being sent despite preferences being set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17340  (10Platonides)
[15:28:03] <TimStarling>	my main concern with it was the arbitrary shell execution vulnerability
[15:28:36] <TimStarling>	blindingly obvious
[15:28:54] <Splarka>	that's what web forms do
[15:29:15] <TimStarling>	I can't believe someone from wikimedia edited the HTML code around that shell call without noticing it
[15:29:17] <Splarka>	Would you kill the birds for singing? Would you poison the fish for swimming? Would you shoot the children for laughing?
[15:29:41] <TimStarling>	yes, but I don't see how that's relevant
[15:29:58] <Simetrical>	. . . you would really shoot children for laughing?
[15:30:06] <Splarka>	it isn't, but Kids in the Hall is the Canadian red-headed stepchild of Monty Python, and needs more quoting
[15:30:15] <TimStarling>	no comment
[15:31:35] <CIA-60>	03yaron * r47495 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormUtils.inc: Fixed handling of 'cancel' link for forms in 'AddData' and 'EditData' pages
[15:37:10] <TimStarling>	are file redirects meant to work when they're disabled?
[15:37:36] <Simetrical>	Is that a trick question?
[15:38:07] <Splarka>	enabling file redirects allows inserting them into the redirect table, which isn't retroactive?
[15:38:13] <Splarka>	^just
[15:39:28] <TimStarling>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BSicon_whfSTR.svg
[15:39:45] <TimStarling>	note the difference between the URL and the title
[15:40:01] <TimStarling>	the odd thing is that it's not a redirect
[15:40:24] <TimStarling>	maybe it is in commons or something
[15:40:41] <TimStarling>	ahhh, yes it is
[15:41:06] <TimStarling>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BSicon_whfSTR.svg?action=edit
[15:47:10] <TimStarling>	right, so they're *not* actually disabled
[15:52:01] <^demon>	TimStarling: Local redirects to remote files? No, they're not.
[15:52:30] <TimStarling>	the issue was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#A_category_that_refuses_to_die
[15:53:11] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Getting follow-up notifications for tickets that we don't own - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: OTRS; (rjd0060.wiki)
[15:55:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Transcluded Special:Newpages and Special:Newimages expose strip markers and desanitize html when returning zero results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[16:01:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Getting follow-up notifications for tickets that we don't own - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569  (10tstarling)
[16:11:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Getting follow-up notifications for tickets that we don't own - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569  (10rjd0060.wiki)
[16:52:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Two redirects are resolved, althoug $wgMaxRedirects is set to 1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17570 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (paul.copperman)
[16:57:08] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47496 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevisionListView.php: Fix double-encoding
[17:00:29] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47497 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ValidationStatistics_body.php: Use '-' not 0, for non-numbers
[17:00:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Slight tweak to category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17571 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (catlow)
[17:01:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Automatic category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3311  (10catlow)
[17:02:22] <Splarka>	need more verbs
[17:06:40] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Getting follow-up notifications for tickets that we don't own - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569  +comment (10guillom.pom)
[17:17:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New extension to enforce minimum password strength. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16435  +comment (10tbertels+bugzilla)
[17:20:32] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47498 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/LqtFunctions.php: Add comment
[17:21:41] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Files downloadable w/o auth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17572 major; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (paul.marcus1)
[17:41:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New extension to enforce minimum password strength. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16435  (10mikelifeguard)
[17:42:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install DynamicPageList extension on Icelandic and Spanish Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7952  (10spacebirdy)
[17:56:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wrong patrol mark for moved page in new pages log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17540  summary (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:03:07] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47499 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/RevisionReview_body.php: 
[18:03:07] <CIA-60>	* Extra lag safety for updateRecentChanges()
[18:03:07] <CIA-60>	* Use rc_cur_id rather than title for updateRecentChanges(). Better for page moves.
[18:04:21] <chuck>	can someone take a look at this patch: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17548
[18:05:11] <werdnum>	chuck: Did you test it?
[18:06:30] <chuck>	yessir
[18:09:14] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47500 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateStats.inc: doc typo
[18:29:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Slight tweak to category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17571  (10catlow)
[18:31:29] <guillom>	ialex, merci pour le commit du patch de manuel, au fait :)
[18:32:58] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47501 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateStats.inc: Removed some kludges that aren't needed anymore
[18:34:42] <chuck>	I'm having some trouble with CentralAuth :<
[18:35:47] <chuck>	CentralAuthUser::getInstance( User::newFromName('Charlie') )->getGlobalRights(); shows the necessary rights that I need to edit global permissions, but User::newFromName('Charlie')->getRights(); only shows regular user permissions
[18:40:22] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47502 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateStats.inc: Improved time range finding
[18:42:00] <ialex>	guillom: de rien :)
[19:03:43] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47503 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevisionListView.php: Revert r47496: if allowed titles were changed someday, that could be an xml injection
[19:08:35] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r47504 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/ (SpecialListUserRestrictions.php SpecialRestrictUser.php): escape $wgScript here
[19:09:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) $wgArticleRobotPolicies vs. SpecialPages hardwiring - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8473  (10jidanni)
[19:10:15] <riesss>	hi
[19:10:33] <riesss>	is there a page for newbies where I can read some kind of howto?
[19:12:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create a special page to handle additions, removals, changes and logging of spam blacklist entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4459  (10email_metawiki_138)
[19:12:20] <ialex>	riesss: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_hub
[19:12:30] <riesss>	thx
[19:12:59] <CIA-60>	03jnatividad * r47505 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/Ploticus/SRF_Ploticus.php: 
[19:12:59] <CIA-60>	implemented CSV format (bug 17490); use CSS throughout and removed hardcoded
[19:12:59] <CIA-60>	html formatting (bug 17491); made delim=comma default for prefabs (shorter
[19:12:59] <CIA-60>	queries); support headers=show|hide when generating CSV/plots. When
[19:12:59] <CIA-60>	headers=yes, most prefab plots will also automatically show a legend; expanded
[19:13:02] <CIA-60>	README
[19:13:31] <CIA-60>	03jnatividad * r47506 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/Ploticus/README: expanded README
[19:13:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create a special page to handle additions, removals, changes and logging of spam blacklist entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4459  (10mikelifeguard)
[19:14:15] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) SRF-Ploticus: Create DATA as imageformat - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17490  (10mediawiki)
[19:15:55] <Sunstar>	Hi there, and thanks to IAlex
[19:16:41] <ialex>	Sunstar: got it to work finally?
[19:16:52] <SunstarNWXP>	hi there, thanks to IAlex
[19:17:03] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: got it to work finally?
[19:17:08] <SunstarNWXP>	Configure's got a bug which I've just noticed
[19:17:19] <SunstarNWXP>	I've almost got it working, ialex
[19:18:12] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: and what's the problem?
[19:19:31] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) SRF-Ploticus: Create DATA as imageformat - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17490  +comment (10mediawiki)
[19:20:01] <SunstarNWXP>	If I add an external URL as the wiki logo, e.g. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Wiki.png and then change settings, whether on my wiki, or any others in the wiki farm, the logo disappears on the wiki, but the changes sometimes are made
[19:20:08] <SunstarNWXP>	why does this happen?
[19:22:57] <SunstarNWXP>	ialex, are you able to help with this?
[19:23:21] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) SRF-Ploticus: Pass headers to CSV with Ploticus can then use to auto-label plots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17489  +comment (10mediawiki)
[19:23:54] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) SRF-Ploticus: Create skin to take advantage of CSS support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17522  (10mediawiki)
[19:26:15] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r47507 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (CentralAuth.i18n.php SpecialGlobalGroupPermissions.php): (bug 15030) Allow global group permissions special page to be used read-only by any user.
[19:26:57] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) List global group rights similar to Special:ListGroupRights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15030  +comment (10Andrew)
[19:28:43] <SunstarNWXP>	?
[19:30:41] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r47508 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.page.php: Sort rights when displaying them, it makes things much easier.
[19:31:54] <SunstarNWXP>	ialex, I'm still getting the errors
[19:33:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow globalgrouppermissions to be assigned as a local right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17308  +comment (10Andrew)
[19:36:54] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: this is strange
[19:37:13] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: is your wiki public?
[19:37:55] <SunstarNWXP>	my wiki is on localhost, ialex
[19:38:03] <ialex>	ah
[19:38:35] <werdnum>	hi ialex 
[19:38:42] <ialex>	hello werdnum
[19:38:48] <SunstarNWXP>	so what should I do?
[19:39:46] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: can you put a version of your LocalSettings.php somewhere (e.g. http://rafb.net/paste/ ) after removing passwords?
[19:40:17] <ialex>	werdnum: any progress for Configure on Wikimedia?
[19:42:13] <werdnum>	ialex: Just need to bug Brion. He's off sick today.
[19:42:21] <werdnum>	I might ask if I can deploy it a bit further next week
[19:42:29] <werdnum>	but we're also deploying AbuseFilter soon
[19:43:55] <ialex>	lot of new things :)
[19:53:02] <SunstarNWXP>	ialex, can I mention my configure problem?
[19:53:22] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: the problem with $wgLogo?
[19:53:31] <SunstarNWXP>	yes, that's the one!
[19:53:55] <ialex>	<ialex> SunstarNWXP: can you put a version of your LocalSettings.php somewhere (e.g. http://rafb.net/paste/ ) after removing passwords?
[19:54:51] <SunstarNWXP>	http://rafb.net/p/JhlNHi39.html - there's the pastebin
[19:56:04] <CIA-60>	03demon * r47509 10/trunk/extensions/PasswordStrength/ (PasswordStrength.i18n.php PasswordStrength.php README): 
[19:56:04] <CIA-60>	Complete rewrite
[19:56:04] <CIA-60>	* Allow simple config of required digit and upper/lower case characters
[19:56:04] <CIA-60>	* Use PrefsPasswordAudit hook instead of isValidPassword
[19:56:04] <CIA-60>	* Throw PasswordErrors instead of return false, new hook has different way of halting execution.
[19:56:04] <SunstarNWXP>	what do I do now?
[19:56:08] <CIA-60>	* Updated README, bump version #
[19:57:01] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: remove the last two lines (they're duplicate of the ones in CommonSettings.php)
[19:57:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow globalgrouppermissions to be assigned as a local right - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17308  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[19:57:55] <SunstarNWXP>	ialex, I removed them, just tested the other wikis again with an external URL for the logo, but still get an error
[19:58:28] <Raymond_>	^demon: 'description-msg' is wrong. should be 'descriptionmsg'
[19:58:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New extension to enforce minimum password strength. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16435  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:00:21] <^demon>	Raymond_: Thanks, fixing.
[20:01:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SRF-Ploticus: Ensure generated hash for plots are unique - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17573 trivial; normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticResultFormats; (mediawiki)
[20:01:16] <CIA-60>	03demon * r47510 10/trunk/extensions/PasswordStrength/PasswordStrength.php: Typo in $wgExtensionCredits.
[20:07:56] <CIA-60>	03rotem * r47511 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: Localization update for he.
[20:08:01] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) $wgMaxRedirect setting not being applied correctly? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17574 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (russblau)
[20:14:04] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) $wgMaxRedirect setting not being applied correctly? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17574  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[20:14:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Two redirects are resolved, althoug $wgMaxRedirects is set to 1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17570  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[20:14:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Two redirects are resolved, although $wgMaxRedirects is set to 1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17570  summary (10paul.copperman)
[20:21:33] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r47512 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Title.php): (bug 17570) $wgMaxRedirects is now correctly respected when following redirects (was previously one more than $wgMaxRedirects)
[20:22:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Two redirects are resolved, although $wgMaxRedirects is set to 1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17570  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:33:12] <AhmadSherif>	Simetrical: there?
[20:40:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Migrate redirect logic out of Article/ImagePage/FileRepo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17575 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (innocentkiller)
[20:42:22] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Files downloadable w/o auth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17572  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[21:03:19] <SunstarNWXP>	I'm back... still having some problems with Configure, but not major ones!
[21:04:17] <SunstarNWXP>	If I add http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/b/bc/Wiki.png as $wgLogo in Configure, make other changes to the wiki, then save them, the logo disappears
[21:05:18] *Prodego 	looks for ialex
[21:07:17] <SunstarNWXP>	anyone able to help?
[21:08:49] <Prodego>	SunstarNWXP: ialex made the extension 
[21:08:59] <Prodego>	he doesn't seem to be here right now
[21:10:12] <SunstarNWXP>	Thanks, Prodego
[21:12:30] <ialex>	back
[21:13:07] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: does this only happen for $wgLogo, or also for other settings?
[21:16:41] <SunstarNWXP>	ialex, it seems to happen for $wgLogo on my localhost install, but not other settings as far as I know
[21:18:27] <SunstarNWXP>	is that ok?
[21:19:15] <ialex>	very strange...
[21:19:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Automatic account creation of locally forbidden usernames is not prevented by local blacklists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16615  +comment (10Andrew)
[21:20:16] <SunstarNWXP>	This logo seems to cause problems... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/b/bc/Wiki.png
[21:20:41] <SunstarNWXP>	I used an external URL for the logo for test purposes, to see if there was a bug
[21:22:26] <CIA-60>	03skizzerz * r47513 10/trunk/extensions/AmazonPlus/AmazonPlus.php: * allow template parameters in the passed arguments
[21:24:42] <CIA-60>	03catrope * r47514 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryBacklinks.php: 
[21:24:43] <CIA-60>	API: (bug 17563) Fix regression from r46845 that changed the output for
[21:24:43] <CIA-60>	list=backlinks to use page IDs as array indexes instead of 0,1,2,... (which
[21:24:43] <CIA-60>	makes a big difference in JSON and breaks clients) and caused weird output for
[21:24:43] <CIA-60>	generator=backlinks as well. Patch by Brad Jorsch
[21:25:38] <Prodego>	ialex: I had that happen to me with configure as well
[21:25:45] <Prodego>	but I couldn't reproduce
[21:26:07] <SunstarNWXP>	maybe you weren't running xampp
[21:28:21] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Automatic account creation of locally forbidden usernames is not prevented by local blacklists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16615  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[21:28:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Titleblacklist entires with <newaccountonly> should affect automatically created accounts with SUL too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14629  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[21:31:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Titleblacklist entires with <newaccountonly> should affect automatically created accounts with SUL too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14629  (10Andrew)
[21:33:25] <SunstarNWXP>	Configure is a great extension
[21:34:00] <Betacommand>	SunstarNWXP: linky??
[21:34:33] <Prodego>	SunstarNWXP: I agree, it really is
[21:34:38] <Prodego>	needs some polishing yet
[21:34:41] <Prodego>	but very good
[21:35:42] <SunstarNWXP>	Betacommand, it's on localhost. Oh, and when the wiki launches, you get sysop, bureaucrat and steward privileges
[21:36:36] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r47515 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialMergeAccount.php: Make MergeAccount respect wfReadOnly()
[21:37:11] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Special:MergeAccount crashes when database locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10925  +comment (10Andrew)
[21:39:30] <SunstarNWXP>	CentralAuth causes me more hell than configure
[21:40:23] <ialex>	use a shared user table :)
[21:41:00] <SunstarNWXP>	I currently do, but I was testing that extension for the GlobalGroupPermissions thing
[21:41:31] <SunstarNWXP>	By the way, what's wrong with my $wgLogo problem - if the logo's local it doesn't cause a problem,but if it's external it does!
[21:41:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Move captcha to the bottom of the form on the signup page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17576 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (gtisza)
[21:42:03] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SharedUserrights
[21:43:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Move captcha to the bottom of the form on the signup page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17576  (10raimond.spekking)
[21:43:19] <SunstarNWXP>	ok, ialex, will try that
[21:43:28] <SunstarNWXP>	Have I found a bug in $wgLogo
[21:43:35] <SunstarNWXP>	on configure?
[21:45:42] <SunstarNWXP>	thanks, ialex
[21:48:55] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r47516 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (CentralAuth.i18n.php CentralAuthHooks.php): Display a message when logging in/out if wgCentralAuthAutoLoginWikis is not filled (but wgCentralAuthCookies is set).
[21:49:23] <werdnum>	tomaszf: 18:11 < Simetrical> "Happy birthday! Soon this bug will be able to buy alcohol." 
[21:49:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Schema change rotation script (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16012  (10innocentkiller)
[21:49:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Better integration of patrol feature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17237  (10innocentkiller)
[21:49:30] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Login on secure server is global but doesn't tell you so - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14450  +comment (10Andrew)
[21:49:40] <tomaszf>	:)
[21:51:46] <Simetrical>	werdnum, I stole that from someone on Mozilla's Bugzilla, don't credit me.
[21:52:14] <Simetrical>	Besides, it won't be able to buy alcohol.  At most it can apply for working papers.
[21:53:10] <Betacommand>	is there a way to up the priority of the jobqueue on a mw install?
[21:53:30] <werdnum>	tomaszf: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7899171.stm
[21:53:45] <Simetrical>	Betacommand, are you using cron for jobs, or not?
[21:53:55] <Prodego>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgJobRunRate ? 
[21:53:59] <Betacommand>	I dont think so
[21:53:59] <Simetrical>	If so, run it more often in cron.  If not, increase the run rate.
[21:54:08] <Simetrical>	Betacommand, then set the variable Prodego linked to.
[21:54:37] <Betacommand>	thanks
[21:54:41] *Prodego 	waves to brion
[21:54:42] <SunstarNWXP>	ialex, have I found a bug, and if so can you figure it out?
[21:54:47] <CIA-60>	03siebrand * r47517 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (173 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-02-19 21:36 UTC)
[21:55:00] *brion 	has been experiencing some downtime today :P
[21:55:02] <brion>	how y'all feelin
[21:55:17] *MrZ-man 	waves
[21:55:32] <tomaszf>	brion: what plague did you catch this time?
[21:55:52] <Simetrical>	brion, your contract doesn't include a 99.99% uptime guarantee?
[21:56:04] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Backlinks output format changed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17563  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[21:56:05] <ialex>	SunstarNWXP: the $wgLogo thing?
[21:56:19] <SunstarNWXP>	Hi brion, good to see you here, hope you're OK... from a Scouser!
[21:56:44] <SunstarNWXP>	ialex, it works if the $wgLogo is local (which would violate GFDL even on localhost) but not for an external URL
[21:57:05] <ialex>	o_O
[21:57:15] <brion>	tomaszf: dunno, was just woozy and bluhhh this morning, didn't quite make it out the door
[21:57:31] <SunstarNWXP>	ialex, I think I just found a bug
[21:57:38] <SunstarNWXP>	brion , hope you get better
[21:57:40] <siebrand>	werdnum: 47516: message changes are not mentioned in the commit (MediaWIki: -> int:), and int: is unnecessarily WMF centric when it is used outside of the WMF.
[21:57:45] <brion>	maybe i'm getting the new plague marti got yesterday :P
[21:57:48] <werdnum>	hey brion, feeling alright?
[21:57:52] <ialex>	brion:~ root# sudo reboot
[21:57:55] <ialex>	:)
[21:58:09] <werdnum>	ialex: no need for sudo if you already have a root shell
[21:58:11] <ialex>	-sudo
[21:58:15] <ialex>	yeah
[21:58:17] <werdnum>	and it's shutdown -r now
[21:58:32] <SunstarNWXP>	sudo - isn't that linux shell command?
[21:58:36] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r47518 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthHooks.php: Don't show "Logged out from other projects" message for non-unified accounts.
[21:58:41] <ialex>	reboot works on Mac OS X :)
[21:59:08] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Logout as non global user shows wrong message and missing images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14587  +comment (10Andrew)
[21:59:24] <werdnum>	does Mac OS X run on brion?
[21:59:31] <werdnum>	Or do you have to recompile it?
[22:00:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logging of edits done by global bots - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15232  +comment (10Andrew)
[22:00:32] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r47519 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php): CHANGELOG entry and bump version per r47508
[22:01:11] <SunstarNWXP>	ialex, please will you look at the bug
[22:01:15] <brion>	werdnum: Apple has been running a Brion version of OS X for years in a secret lab in Cupertino
[22:01:21] <brion>	only now can we release it...
[22:02:16] *brion 	seeks to feel semi-productive today
[22:02:26] <werdnum>	brion: hehe
[22:02:27] <brion>	any patches needing review love? :)
[22:02:45] <werdnum>	brion: Well there's this 2000-line one that is now redundant to the Configure extension :P
[22:02:52] <MrZ-man>	I think Marybelle's been bitching about one
[22:03:05] <Marybelle>	Oh, yes!
[22:03:12] <Marybelle>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16335
[22:03:24] <werdnum>	brion: We could deploy Configure, deploy AbuseFilter, something else, or laze :p
[22:03:39] *Marybelle 	points werdnum up. ^ It technically has already been reviewed, too. :-)
[22:03:51] <werdnum>	I've been working on CentralAuth, because I noticed there were 45 bugs open against it and nobody's looked at any of them.
[22:04:16] <brion>	heh
[22:04:35] <brion>	ah yes, anything else we wanna tweak in abusefilter before wider testing?
[22:04:54] <brion>	ooh and i may as well set up drafts unless there's a remaining prob?
[22:04:58] <uberfuzzy>	is there any good way to automate an xml import?
[22:05:13] <MrZ-man>	woo, let's enable 3 new extensions at the same time
[22:05:14] <uberfuzzy>	i see theres an edittoken in the form, but not sure how to generate that
[22:05:18] <werdnum>	brion: NEEDS TO BE DISABLABLE
[22:05:19] *werdnum 	hides.
[22:05:27] *brion 	disables werdnum 
[22:05:29] <werdnum>	brion: I haven't heard of anything
[22:05:38] <MrZ-man>	lets do StringFunctions too while we're at it
[22:05:46] <Marybelle>	Still no option to disable Drafts per user?
[22:05:57] *brion 	peeks at Marybelle's bug
[22:06:02] <Raymond_afk>	PDFHandler?
[22:06:05] *Marybelle 	waits for the shitstorm regarding that. ;-)
[22:06:24] <Marybelle>	People aren't going to like a new feature without an off switch.
[22:06:37] <TrevorParscal>	Marybelle: this debate is getting old
[22:06:51] *Marybelle 	nods. 
[22:07:02] <Marybelle>	But to a whole lot of users, it will be very fresh. :-)
[22:07:07] <Marybelle>	Just sayin'.
[22:07:10] <TrevorParscal>	why are you so against the feature?
[22:07:20] <Marybelle>	I'm not. I think it's a great feature. 
[22:07:32] <Marybelle>	Wish we had it last week, even. I lost a draft when the TS bugged out on me.
[22:07:43] <Marybelle>	s/TS/Toolserver wiki/
[22:07:57] <TrevorParscal>	well, you are the only one who seems to think it needs to be disabled... are you just playing
[22:08:03] <TrevorParscal>	devil's advocate?
[22:08:10] <brion>	Marybelle: look ok to me (16335)
[22:08:11] <Marybelle>	But I've been around long enough to know the community pretty well. They're pretty finicky about adding new features without adding an off switch.
[22:08:18] *werdnum 	yawns.
[22:08:25] <brion>	haha
[22:08:27] <Marybelle>	brion: Tim said the same thing. Needs somebody to commit. :-)
[22:08:30] *brion 	likes the irc extract
[22:08:30] <werdnum>	dramaz are boring
[22:09:15] <TrevorParscal>	Marybelle: maybe if you were less vocal about your feature request, people would just accept the change.... shhhhh.... :)
[22:09:29] <Marybelle>	Hahaha. Wikipedians are never quiet. ;-)
[22:09:59] <MrZ-man>	Omg, the search function improved? I don't like change! How do I turn it off?!
[22:10:01] <Marybelle>	Suddenly there will be a [[Category:Wikipedians after TrevorParscal's head]] and a WikiProject and userboxes...
[22:10:02] <werdnum>	Let's just wait and see :)
[22:11:18] <Marybelle>	MrZ-man: And it had a disable option. ;-)
[22:11:18] <ialex>	Marybelle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Do_NOT_bite_the_developers ;)
[22:11:30] <TrevorParscal>	Are you implying that the squeaky wheel should get the grease Marybelle? Or just insisting on squeaking as loudly as possible?
[22:11:46] <Marybelle>	ialex: Tell that to the community. :-)
[22:12:00] <wikibugs>	06(LATER) SRF-Ploticus: For showimagelink and showcsv actions, make the resulting image and csv file have non-hash fnames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17511  +comment (10mediawiki)
[22:12:04] <Marybelle>	TrevorParscal: You've lost me. Whose wheel are we greasing?
[22:12:26] <Marybelle>	I'm just suggesting that there may be unfavorable reactions to a new non-disablable feature. 
[22:12:36] <Marybelle>	It's perfectly fine to ignore those people, but they'll still be there.
[22:12:39] <MrZ-man>	Marybelle: I think you're the wheel, and Trevor doesn't want to grease you up, or something
[22:12:43] <TrevorParscal>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeaky_wheel
[22:12:52] <CIA-60>	03siebrand * r47520 10/trunk/extensions/ (112 files in 99 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-02-19 21:36 UTC)
[22:12:55] <Marybelle>	Oh, and did the page move thing get fixed?
[22:13:13] <MrZ-man>	there was a page move thing?
[22:13:16] <Marybelle>	I start writing a draft, go home (while driving home the article is moved) and suddenly the draft is unattached.
[22:13:19] <Marybelle>	Something like that.
[22:13:32] <Marybelle>	Drafts are attached by page_title, not page_id or something?
[22:14:07] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r47521 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthHooks.php: (bug 15625) Make login/logout icons link to the projects in question :-)
[22:14:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) CentralAuth global login images should link to respective projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15625  +comment (10Andrew)
[22:14:46] <werdnum>	Marybelle: I'll commit your patch :P
[22:15:02] <Marybelle>	s/your/some random kind-hearted user/ :-)
[22:15:11] <CIA-60>	03brion * r47522 10/trunk/phase3/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 
[22:15:12] <CIA-60>	* (bug 16335) __NONEWSECTIONLINK__ magic word to suppress new section link.
[22:15:12] <CIA-60>	Patch by Carlin: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=5680
[22:15:12] <CIA-60>	With slight whitespace tweaks.
[22:15:15] <Marybelle>	But thank you. Much appreciated. :-)
[22:15:28] <Marybelle>	brion: :D
[22:15:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add magic word __NONEWSECTIONLINK__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16335  +comment (10brion)
[22:16:22] *Marybelle 	is away. More bitching later, I promise. ;-)
[22:16:49] <werdnum>	brion: bah!
[22:17:08] <MrZ-man>	brion: shouldn't that be FIXED
[22:17:11] <werdnum>	Early bird, worm
[22:17:43] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add magic word __NONEWSECTIONLINK__ - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16335  (10Andrew)
[22:17:44] <werdnum>	the early bird commits the patch.
[22:17:47] <werdnum>	ha!
[22:17:50] <brion>	yyyes
[22:18:32] <werdnum>	bbedit keeps sneaking out of its space
[22:18:36] *werdnum 	stabs bbedit
[22:19:14] <brion>	at least it doesn't have a built-in web browser and mail client and MUD
[22:19:20] <brion>	*that's* an editor sneaking out of its space!
[22:19:24] *brion 	stabs emacs
[22:19:34] <werdnum>	bwahaha
[22:19:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Global user style - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13953  +comment (10charlie)
[22:21:07] <chuck>	brion: do you know if its possible to choose a list of preferences that will be global with CentralAuth?
[22:21:21] <werdnum>	chuck: It isn't.
[22:21:30] <werdnum>	Something we probably want to look at doing.
[22:21:37] <emma>	hey guys is there a way to make it so that the title of this article will not become caps by default -- http://wiki.club-ubuntu.org/index.php/Cp
[22:21:45] <chuck>	werdnum: ah, crap
[22:21:51] <chuck>	I'll submit a bug
[22:21:53] <werdnum>	emma: $wgCapitalLinks = false;
[22:21:54] <emma>	it really should not be caps
[22:22:05] <werdnum>	or {{DISPLAYTITLE|cp}}\
[22:22:40] <werdnum>	emma: http://wiki.club-ubuntu.org/index.php/Cp
[22:22:43] <werdnum>	you owe me a cookie :)
[22:23:29] <werdnum>	brion: Was there anything in particular you wanted done on AbuseFilter before a wider deployment?
[22:24:32] <chuck>	oh, looks like there is already a bug requesting global preferences
[22:24:44] <werdnum>	Of course there is :)
[22:24:48] <chuck>	hehe
[22:24:59] <werdnum>	I might look at it at some stage if I don't have much to do.
[22:26:08] <chuck>	werdnum: do you know what would have to be done to get global preferences? i might have a look at those AuthPlugin and AuthPluginUser classes; I could have sworn there was something in there to do it
[22:26:35] <werdnum>	No, just dig around
[22:26:48] <emma>	http://wiki.club-ubuntu.org/index.php/Category:Club_Pages
[22:27:16] <emma>	oops sorry i gues im in the wrong channel.
[22:27:43] <chuck>	the updateUser method maybe...
[22:28:24] <chuck>	yep, looks like that is what would do it
[22:28:32] <chuck>	that's what is being used to set the global email address
[22:29:48] <chuck>	hmm
[22:40:11] <Time_vampire>	brion or someone: can the changes in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/47514 be synced?
[22:40:31] <trichobezoar>	is there a way to make <pre> word wrap?
[22:41:43] *brion 	peeks
[22:41:59] <TrevorParscal>	using a CSS attribute....
[22:42:11] <TrevorParscal>	a mail went around about this last week
[22:44:02] <brion>	Time_vampire: done
[22:44:08] <Time_vampire>	thanks
[22:45:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Images can't have far future expires - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17577 minor; normal; MediaWiki: Images; (bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[22:45:27] <trichobezoar>	<pre style="white-space:normal">
[22:46:35] <werdnum>	brion: Can I let bureaucrats de-admin on test.wikipedia?
[22:47:42] <brion>	sure, why not
[22:48:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Move + delete removes an article from Special:NewPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17536  (10mauro742)
[22:49:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images can't have far future expires - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17577  (10bugzilla.wikimedia.org)
[22:49:46] <trichobezoar>	How do I edit the default CSS?
[22:49:49] <trichobezoar>	definitions
[22:49:58] <flyingparchment>	edit [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] and add your overrides there
[22:50:05] <werdnum>	brion: I changed it in InitialiseSettings.php, but nothing happened -- I don't have to sync for test.wikipedia do I?
[22:50:25] <trichobezoar>	awesome, thanks flyingparchment 
[22:51:20] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Move + delete removes an article from Special:NewPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17536  (10mauro742)
[22:51:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images can't have far future expires - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17577  +comment (10brion)
[22:51:27] <AzaTht>	gah, why aint there any dudes online at #pywikipediabot when I need them :(
[22:52:21] <werdnum>	brion: ah, fixed itself
[22:53:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikimedia contact form does not like + in the email address - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15624  (10mwpnl)
[22:56:06] <brion>	werdnum: for test? no
[23:01:31] <werdnum>	brion: yeah, I just had to give it a few seconds :)
[23:01:33] *werdnum 	impatient.
[23:04:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) set $wgCategoryPrefixedDefaultSortkey=false for en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16552  +comment (10funandtrvl)
[23:06:49] <Danielss89>	Hi
[23:07:18] <Danielss89>	Am i blind or is there no place to edit the rights of user groups?? I can see the rights for each group but i cant find where to edit them..
[23:07:25] <Simetrical>	Danielss89, Special:UserRights
[23:08:38] <Danielss89>	i need to edit for an entire group.. I would like my users to be able to edit a page, or create a new one, but i want it to be approved before it goes online..
[23:09:35] <yannf>	what are the forbidden characters in a section name?
[23:09:44] <yannf>	i.e. <section begin="L’Intérêt_socialiste" />
[23:09:53] <yannf>	is ok?
[23:10:58] <werdnum>	Danielss89: install the Configure extension, or edit it in LocalSettings.php
[23:11:04] <werdnum>	!wg GroupPermissions
[23:11:04] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgGroupPermissions
[23:12:11] <Danielss89>	so it is possible to do so that edits/adds has to be approved..
[23:12:47] <werdnum>	!access
[23:12:47] --mwbot--	For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[23:13:15] <Simetrical>	yannf, sections can contain pretty much any printable character other than newlines.  But the generated anchor (fragment, id) for the section is much more restricted at present.
[23:14:08] <chuck>	Danielss89: FlaggedRevs might be what you're looking for
[23:14:59] <Danielss89>	ok ill have a look at the links.. thanks
[23:22:33] <failure>	oh wow a lot of people here
[23:22:34] <failure>	cool
[23:23:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images can't have far future expires - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17577  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:45:04] <AaronSchulz>	'You may view or edit the permissions assigned to a group, if you have permission to.'
[23:45:08] <AaronSchulz>	hehe :)
[23:47:42] <brion>	:P
[23:47:52] <brion>	"You can do this, unless you can't"
[23:47:55] <brion>	very helpful msg
[23:52:22] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r47523 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewEdit.php: Do not display tools if there are not any
[23:53:39] <werdnum>	AaronSchulz: It was meant because before it was "You can edit these perms" but I made it publicly viewable
[23:53:43] <werdnum>	so I tried to make it not suck.
[23:54:02] <Simetrical>	Apparently you failed?
[23:54:13] <werdnum>	Well I made it suck less in a brief amount of time
[23:57:31] <chuck>	brion: hey, I have a question, we recently lost our mediawiki user table for some reason, and we restored a backup, but it was a tad old, so recently registered users may have to re-register. preferrably, I want to make sure their new accounts are still working well with the software as they did before, what do you think I should do to "reattribute" their old things to their new account?
[23:57:57] <brion>	mmm
[23:58:37] <brion>	not sure if there's already a handy script to reassign rev_user to match rev_user_text or not
[23:58:50] <chuck>	what is rev_user? the user's ID?
[23:58:56] <brion>	right
[23:59:12] <brion>	so your new user_ids may not be matching the old ones
[23:59:20] <CIA-60>	03simetrical * r47524 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Note incorrect docs in DefaultSettings.php
[23:59:27] <chuck>	hm okay, well that should be a really really simple maintenance script to write