[00:04:39] . . . @ 17606 [00:06:58] Simetrical: hey, I closed it, don't blame me [00:13:13] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10wiki) [00:15:40] 03(FIXED) Flying pig vulnerability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17606 +comment (10innocentkiller) [01:35:12] 03(NEW) Front page renders badly on iPhone + some wishes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17609 15enhancement; normal; Wikipedia Mobile: iphone; (H92.wikipedia) [02:08:51] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [02:13:07] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [02:19:15] 03kim * r47645 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/ (4 files): [02:19:16] Added the naive installer, which *should* be able to install maybe [02:19:16] 80% of our 360+ extensions. [02:19:16] Also prettified the output of ls into columns. [02:19:16] This is not a luxury if you're trying to read a listing [02:19:16] of 360+ items ;-) [02:19:39] ooo [03:17:57] 03(NEW) interrupted downloads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17610 normal; normal; Wikimedia: Downloads; (azatoth) [03:19:45] 03(mod) interrupted downloads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17610 +comment (10river) [03:30:07] i wish people wouldn't file bugs then vanish [03:38:05] maybe it was the flying pigs [03:41:46] 03(NEW) lighttpd + sqlite installation failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17611 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (vavarachen) [03:44:47] when moving just the Database from the localhost to a second machine, does anything else other than the database connection information in LocalSettings.php need to be updated? [03:51:28] 03aaron * r47646 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [03:51:29] * Added percentile table and made median use same general formula [03:51:29] * Stylistic tweaks [03:51:29] * Removed unused global [04:06:05] 03aaron * r47647 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ValidationStatistics_body.php: paranoia: use intval() before adding to html [04:20:03] Anyone here really good with sortable tables? [04:26:00] 03(mod) CSS-added icons next to links display through the text and makes it unreadable in RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1061 (10mohamed.m.k) [04:33:24] 03alnokta * r47648 10/trunk/phase3/skins/ (8 files in 2 dirs): fix indentation for rev 47615 [04:42:50] Hello peoples, I wanna ask a question. [04:43:29] ... [04:43:46] Does anyone know when MediaWiki 1.14 is coming out? [04:44:22] =/ [04:46:08] Ahem, sorry about that. [04:46:25] Didn't know that you guys didn't reply quickly. [04:46:46] what did you wait, 30 seconds? heh [04:46:47] I'll ask again: Does anyone know when MediaWiki 1.14 is coming out? [04:46:55] 1.14 has been "coming soon" for like 3 months [04:47:21] (but there is something happening this weekend, a major forward progression, IIRC) [04:50:59] when moving just the Database from the localhost to a second machine, does anything else other than the database connection information in LocalSettings.php need to be updated? [05:02:00] 03aaron * r47649 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateStats.inc: Tweak percentiles used [05:12:44] suppose i back up my SQL database [05:12:48] and reinstall my whole server [05:13:00] how would i reinstall mediawiki with the old sql file? [05:26:31] !backup | meoblast001 [05:26:31] --mwbot-- meoblast001: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [05:26:35] !move | meoblast001 [05:26:35] --mwbot-- meoblast001: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki [05:27:12] ok thanks [05:27:21] hopefully i don't have to reinstall my OS [05:37:29] is there a way for a wiki to treat data, like integers and strings, in the same way they do images? [05:38:29] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StringFunctions might be helpful [05:43:24] doesn't seem like it. as in, I want to say "The {{get-data|X-name}} has {{get-data|X-flims}} flims." [07:18:48] Good morning people [07:19:03] is it possible to back up my data without starting mysql? [07:19:14] if not i'll just realize that all is lost [07:20:09] hrm i think that in general you can copy the db files [07:20:21] and try to use them on another server [07:20:41] (i know it works with ms sqlserver and with oracle never tried with mysql) [07:23:50] yea [07:24:18] only works for MyISAM though [07:30:01] CrushKingX: i tried that and the system was falsly reporting that a file was a directory [07:30:05] and refused to copy [07:43:42] meoblast001: copy should copy the files if its a file or a directory [07:44:08] meoblast001: maybe it finds its in use or something and its his way to notify you of that [07:44:22] meoblast001: also what os are you using? [07:44:22] CrushKingX: MySQL wont even turn on [07:44:25] the system is that unstable [07:44:27] Ubuntu [07:44:50] ok whats the copy command? [07:45:25] meoblast001: i also use ubuntu at home never had problems copying maybe its FS errors [07:48:21] and what error mysql gives you when you try to turn it on [07:49:34] mwahaha [07:49:35] i win [07:49:40] i got za files [07:50:14] meoblast001: cool what did you do to copy it? [07:50:36] CrushKingX: first i plugged in a half-broken pendrive [07:50:43] then i made sure it was unmounted [07:50:48] then i mounted it onto /mnt [07:50:56] then i copied the files onto it with root ability [07:51:36] meoblast001: ok so now try to install mysql on another computer\server and use those files [07:52:03] yes [07:52:11] and i also need to back up the files i need for my site [07:52:23] since my other computer that has my site on it has fried ram [07:52:26] yeah but dont use the same computer leave it alive for now [07:53:26] try to get another pc so that one will be sort of a backup for now [07:53:33] if the files didnt copy well or something [07:54:23] CrushKingX: this reminds me of the song "Put a Banana in Your Ear" [07:54:31] makes the sad go away [07:56:26] meoblast001: heh, good luck with that :) [07:57:28] CrushKingX: thanks [07:57:41] CrushKingX: that was from the youtube video "Charlie the Unicorn" [07:59:22] heh [08:07:33] any one here knows how i can add new special tags to the FCKeditor? (i need to add the source tag to it) [08:19:18] Hi, Is there any way to rename an image/file in wiki? [08:19:28] nope [08:21:41] :-( [08:22:39] delete/reupload [08:25:26] 03(mod) Blocked users can use Special:UserRights - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17014 (10niklas.laxstrom) [08:26:06] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowImageMoving [08:27:02] Splarka: would that break about 50 zillion things? [08:28:27] possibly [08:28:40] it is enabled on test.wp [08:28:50] but that is the 1.15 version, not the 1.13 [08:30:45] I think file redirects are enabled on commons (a precursor to moving)...? [08:41:36] anyone here uses FCKEditor? [08:45:30] a friend of mine said that when he installed fckeditor it identified the special tags and added them, it didnt do it for me... so in general how did the fckeditor installtion work for you? [09:38:47] 03rotem * r47650 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he. [09:55:33] 03(NEW) Allow users to specify individual fallback languages in Spezial:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17612 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [09:55:36] 03(mod) create more complex fallback language rules. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17608 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [09:57:09] 14(DUP) Allow users to specify individual fallback languages in Spezial:Preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17612 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [09:57:11] 03(mod) User should be able to set fallback language(s) in preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11267 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [10:25:08] 03tstarling * r47651 10/branches/REL1_13/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php): Updates for release of 1.13.5 [10:28:02] 03kim * r47652 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/naive_installer.py: [10:28:02] Might be nice to add the relevant file.. [10:28:02] Added naieve installer.py [10:28:05] 03tstarling * r47653 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php): Updates for release of 1.14.0 [10:33:30] 03tstarling * r47654 10/tags/REL1_13_5/: Tagging for release of 1.13.5 [10:34:21] 03tstarling * r47655 10/tags/REL1_14_0/: Tagging for release of 1.14.0 [10:55:18] *siebrand cheers TimStarling on! [11:01:30] siebrand: is 1.13.5 a security fix? [11:02:30] Splarka: There was a security flaw in the installer, so yes. [11:04:41] there :) [11:11:16] no, 1.13.5 is not a security fix [11:11:51] Hmm, OK then. [11:12:27] if you know of a security vulnerability in it, you'd better speak up [11:13:08] *Splarka didn't know, so asked, goes back to baking [11:13:09] TimStarling: ehm, only a quick question, if I would like a new feature in the APIs, should I open a bug on the bugtracker, right? [11:13:12] :) [11:14:03] you could, but sending a request to the mediawiki-api mailing list would be more likely to get attention [11:14:06] talking to Roan about it first can help [11:14:18] TimStarling: ok! Thanks :) [11:32:47] 03raymond * r47656 10/trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Move
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from message text to program code for consinstency with all other messages. [12:15:50] *Splarka pages Filnik [12:16:16] *Filnik pages back Splarka :) [12:16:29] RoanKattouw is mostly in charge of the API [12:16:39] Er what? [12:16:45] heh heh [12:16:58] ... if I would like a new feature in the APIs, should I open a bug on the bugtracker, right? [12:17:03] what feature did you want? [12:17:06] Splarka: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-api/2009-February/000989.html [12:17:16] bah, mailing lists are for lazy people [12:17:28] oh, that [12:17:36] Splarka: tim told me to do so.. :) [12:17:45] That's kind of waiting on that QueryPage integration bug [12:17:50] sorry roan, go back to sleep [12:17:54] yah [12:17:59] who is working on that again? [12:18:09] VasilievVV was, until he wasn't and transferred it to me [12:18:17] bah [12:18:35] !b 14869 [12:18:35] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14869 [12:18:56] So at this very moment nobody's working on it, I may pick it up when I have more time [12:19:28] RoanKattouw: ok thank you :) [12:19:40] *Filnik has to go to lunch.. [12:20:16] Filnik|lunch: you'd probably have more immediate luck asking the toolserver guys [12:20:27] (although that is wikimedia-specific) [12:33:54] Splarka: using a db query? [12:35:03] yah, they do some too-expensive-for-live requested queries sometimes, and can do bot interfaces [12:35:39] (although, they might be able to set up a bot interface for the cached lonelypages too, although I am not sure if that is replicated...?) [12:37:20] Splarka: ok thanks :) [12:43:51] https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Query_service p858snake: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BuffySpeak [12:49:33] your linking me to buffy speak why? [13:46:36] 03(mod) Add a preference option to disable $wgTranslateNumerals when using a language with digit transforms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14145 (10mohamed.m.k) [14:11:21] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 +comment (10Gerard.meijssen) [14:15:03] 04(REOPENED) List global group rights similar to Special:ListGroupRights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15030 +comment (10happy_melon) [14:17:48] can anyone recommend a free mediawiki host? (for initially private wiki) [14:25:58] 03(mod) GRAMMAR functionality should be accessible via hook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17242 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [14:34:31] 03(mod) Add a preference option to disable $wgTranslateNumerals when using a language with digit transforms - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14145 (10niklas.laxstrom) [14:47:07] I'm getting strange behavior on transludes: [14:47:11] 03raymond * r47659 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [14:47:11] Replace message 'abcsep' with corefunction pipeList(). [14:47:11] Remove identical message [14:47:11] Kill whitespaces [14:47:45] 03purodha * r47657 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Add forgotten releas-note for revision 47405 (bug 17546) [14:48:02] 03raymond * r47658 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWhatlinkshere.php: Another piplist() candidate spotted by Translatewiki :) [14:48:48] (I'm running 1.15alpha) and using the syntax {{Special:Newpages/limit=10,shownav,namespace=Main}} to translude "What's New" content onto my front page works fine when there are new articles [14:49:09] 03nikerabbit * r47660 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: [14:49:09] * Fix broken since added in r24969 preload check which forced forced preview being always true [14:49:09] * Move interface warning to intro so that it can be suppressed [14:49:11] but if there are no recent new articles, I get some bizarre character output [14:49:15] 03nikerabbit * r47661 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (Translate.php TranslateEditAddons.php): * Suppress intro [14:50:10] .7FUNIQ699c3ad31f60018-h-0--QINU.7F_Newburyport_GNUS [14:51:15] fun stuff [14:52:03] that's parser black magics [14:52:06] 03nikerabbit * r47662 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslatePage.php: * Remember language [14:52:32] 03nikerabbit * r47663 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * Correct case for formatNum [14:52:46] 03aaron * r47664 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Linker.php skins/common/shared.css): Stylistic code tweaks [14:53:36] 03minuteelectron * r47665 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [14:53:36] Babel: [14:53:36] * Split language code and name handelling functions in to a seperate class. [14:53:36] * Rewrite language code logic to improve readability. [14:53:36] * Improve efficiency of language code and name processing. [14:53:37] * Provide a base for adding caching. [14:53:42] 03(mod) DISPLAYTITLE should allow Arabic and Persian harakats - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16899 (10huji.huji) [14:54:16] It seems like it's an actual (lower incidence) bug so I'll search/write it up [14:56:09] freephile: open/known bug [14:56:22] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129 [14:57:30] Splarka: sweet - thanks. [15:02:12] 03(NEW) 1.14 ignores MediaWiki:Common.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17613 normal; normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (xjakub) [15:07:50] mark: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Comments:Church_of_Scientology_blames_Pearl_Harbor%2C_9%2F11_on_psychiatry [15:07:54] what's wrong with that url? [15:08:27] can't have URLencoded slashes in pretty URLs? [15:10:34] hmm, FF was normalizing the url, so the working and bad links looked similar :) [15:10:40] yeah, looks like a mistake in the apache setup [15:10:49] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17389 [15:11:16] oops, someone duped it [15:13:13] see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9204#c9 #c10 especially [15:18:14] 03nikerabbit * r47666 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslateEditAddons.php: * Don't show warnings for documentation language [15:24:09] 03siebrand * r47667 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/ (BabelLanguageCodes.class.php codes.txt): svn:eol-style native [15:25:47] 03(mod) Transcluded Special:Newpages and Special:Newimages expose strip markers and desanitize html when returning zero results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129 (10greg) [15:31:33] 03minuteelectron * r47668 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/BabelLanguageCodes.class.php: * Babel: Add functionality to placeholder caching methods. [15:33:14] 03minuteelectron * r47669 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/BabelLanguageCodes.class.php: * Babel: Remove some debugging code accidentally left in. [15:39:13] 03ialex * r47670 10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 4 dirs): svn:eol-style native [15:58:52] 03aaron * r47671 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReleaseNotes.php: More summary matching tweaks [16:01:55] 03(mod) No PostgreSQL schema name in wiki ID - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15823 +postgresql (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:02:06] 03(mod) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384 (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:04:28] 03(mod) quote mark unprocessed in DatabasePostgres.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17332 +postgresql (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:04:30] 03(mod) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384 (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:05:26] 03rotem * r47672 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update. [16:20:09] Hey all [16:20:35] Blank page when installing mediawiki [16:20:55] 03minuteelectron * r47673 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/ (Babel.php BabelLanguageCodes.class.php): [16:20:56] Babel: [16:20:56] * Reduce wasteful caching. [16:20:56] * Decrease TTL to 216000. [16:20:56] * Fix cache prefix. [16:21:03] ? [16:21:50] nn [16:26:11] HEY? [16:27:06] hi [16:27:14] Hey all [16:27:14] Blank page when installing mediawiki [16:27:16] '' [16:27:25] redo [16:27:29] follow instructions [16:27:39] Charitwo, ? [16:28:03] Charitwo, kernel.servebbs.net [16:28:11] blank page.. [16:28:17] i believe you [16:28:31] and I'm telling you delete the installation, and try it again following the installation instructions to the letter [16:28:32] ; (.. [16:28:36] !install | kernel [16:28:36] --mwbot-- kernel: Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [16:29:24] Hmm.. [16:29:55] if you really want the indepth version of the instructions, see the bit about the INSTALL file in your download package [16:30:49] kernel: are you sure that you have PHP5 ? [16:31:06] yeah [16:33:39] kernel: You need to find out what the error causing the blank page is [16:33:42] !error | kernel [16:33:42] --mwbot-- kernel: For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [16:33:56] How can I remove the quite useless "Use external editor by default" from prefs/misc. It's not listed in SpecialPreferences.php but called from sth like a batch [16:34:31] RoanKattouw, I don't have LocalSettings.php [16:34:43] Did you run the installer? [16:34:53] yeah but, it is blank page [16:35:03] RoanKattouw, http://kernel.is-a-geek.com [16:35:11] RoanKattouw: PHP seems to stop at [16:35:20] You mean you get the blank page right off the bat without ever seeing anything resembling an installer? [16:35:28] yeah [16:36:18] kernel: Then for the time being, add the lines you're supposed to add to the top of LocalSettings.php to config/index.php instead [16:36:52] yeah [16:38:09] .. [16:38:15] .... [16:40:27] kernel: Done that yet? [16:40:47] I don't see any change... [16:40:47] : ( .. [16:48:02] '' [16:48:04] ''.' [16:48:13] '.' [16:48:15] '.' [16:48:41] teddy gear [16:58:15] > How can I remove the quite useless "Use external editor by default" from prefs/misc. It's not listed in SpecialPreferences.php but called from sth like a batch [16:58:34] wasn't this planned to be removed anyway? [16:59:35] hello,can someone please tell me if there is a user channel for mediawiki questions? [17:00:02] adnc: this is the channel for mediawiki questions [17:00:39] Prodego: how can i change the navigation bar links on the left side? [17:00:44] Hubble3000: it is not useless [17:00:52] adnc: edit Mediawiki:Sidebar [17:01:05] but it causes trouble ;) [17:01:42] Prodego: that page doesnt exist, do i have to create it? and what happens if i create it with a simple entry, are the rest removed? [17:01:48] anyway, where is this option set? #Misc si different from all other prefs [17:01:55] adnc: that page should exist [17:02:01] Prodego: it doesnt [17:02:06] Hubble3000: it doesn't cause trouble if used right [17:02:12] adnc: is this a public wiki? [17:02:21] ohhh it exists [17:02:26] my users won't so i better remove the option [17:02:28] i just used MyWikiname:Sidebar [17:03:12] if i do not see the edit link, do i miss permissions then? [17:04:21] Hubble3000: what are your user then? [17:05:09] like ticking all funky options and save and then wonder why they can't edit pages but get index.php [17:06:26] well isn't that normal? :D [17:06:29] adnc: MediaWIki:Sidebar, not MyWikiname:Sidebar [17:06:48] ialex: yes, i didnt know. thank you [17:07:11] sos eriously, where do the misc options hide themself in SpecialPreferences? it's called from a batch i can't find [17:07:36] Hubble3000: User::$mToggles [17:07:48] ialex: it is actually 'Mediawiki' but :) [17:07:51] so i better edit User.php? [17:08:24] Prodego: case insensitive actually [17:08:25] Prodego: Media*W*iki normalizes it :) [17:10:18] soon as I invent a time machine i'm going ot go back in time with a big bat and threaten whoever I need to so the software, the site, and the foundation names dont get made so damn similar [17:10:57] ah there are they hiding. cheers [17:13:03] 03vrandezo * r47674 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/installfiles/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki.install/ (7 files): adding smw directory [17:23:25] 03vrandezo * r47675 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/installfiles/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki.install/ (download.sh uninstall.sh update.sh): added db init/deinit [17:34:13] 03(mod) Improve accessibility of the search page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16741 +shell; +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [17:39:46] Yay! 1.14.0! [17:43:45] 03siebrand * r47676 10/trunk/extensions/Makesysop/SpecialMakesysop.i18n.php: Consistency fix for 'nl' [17:43:53] 03aaron * r47677 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Made powersearch-field message a label for the search field [17:47:02] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10wiki) [17:49:03] 03vrandezo * r47678 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/installfiles/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki.install/SemanticMediaWiki.settings.php: better default value (none instead of localhost) [17:49:46] 03siebrand * r47679 10/trunk/extensions/Makesysop/SpecialMakesysop.i18n.php: Remove messages 'group-steward', 'group-steward-member', 'grouppage-steward'. These are duplicated in better supported WikimediaMessages messages. [17:52:32] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10Gerard.meijssen) [18:03:43] ImagePage.php: Isn't the prev/next navigation on filehistory completely useless and ugly for 99,99% of all files? [18:03:51] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:Bulbgraph.svg [18:04:53] just display all as it used to pre 1.14. those 2 pages on the wiki with more than 50 revisions (if at all) won't make your DB crash [18:08:37] or just link to a WhatLinksHere page :P [18:09:57] or at least only display the prev/next if it really are more than 50 revisions but not by default. so ugly! :D [18:12:28] maybe i miss future plans but imo i have a valid point [18:16:59] I think there a flaw in this, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#Can_my_wiki_stay_online_while_it_is_upgrading.3F [18:17:11] What about images [18:26:42] 03aaron * r47680 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [18:26:42] * Added titles to wfViewPrevNext() paging links [18:26:46] * Escape prevn/nextn messages. Other cleanup. [18:26:46] * Added some comments [18:27:30] 03(NEW) Prev / Next links not need on ImagePage file history if less than limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17614 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (old_school_junkie) [18:31:14] hello, i did read an article about intellipedia. does someone know how to classify pages for security like they do? [18:31:39] 03(mod) Prev / Next links not need on ImagePage file history if less than limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17614 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [18:33:47] 03(mod) Prev / Next links not need on ImagePage file history if less than limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17614 (10old_school_junkie) [18:34:53] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10wiki) [18:39:46] hi, I say {{#if: {{{rep}}} | xxx | yyy }} in a template, but I don't pass rep but I do see xxx [18:39:54] w'sup with that? [18:40:01] This function tests whether the first parameter is 'non-empty'. [18:40:15] I'd guess, not passed = DOH [18:40:20] :) [18:41:23] So I should read... {{#if: {{{rep}}} | rep is 'empty' | rep is 'non-empty'}}? [18:42:53] 03vrandezo * r47681 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/installfiles/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki.install/ (download.sh update.sh): removed dumb bug (wrong extension) [18:44:39] no, I do see a problem. [18:45:15] in the template I set "{{#if: {{{id}}} | id true | id false}}" and "{{#if: {{{rep}}} | rep true | rep false}}". [18:45:27] and I call the template with id but not rep, but I see... [18:45:35] id true rep true [18:46:09] I expect to see one true and one false... now can a non-passed variable be not 'non-empty' [18:46:44] try substing the template to see if it's doing what u think it does [18:47:15] yeah, I just saw what it outputs... literally {{{rep}}} ... I need to set {{{rep|}}} [18:47:28] s/set/use/ [18:48:12] thanks dudes [18:55:46] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10Gerard.meijssen) [19:02:42] 03raymond * r47682 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: Follow up r47680: Add new messages to messages.inc [19:04:11] 03(mod) DISPLAYTITLE should allow Arabic and Persian harakats - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16899 +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif) [19:05:35] 03(NEW) nosummary option should be reassigned on preview/captcha - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17615 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (bugreporter) [19:07:16] 03(NEW) Recent changes JavaScript: clicking arrow should keep it in focus - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17616 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: RecentChanges; (326374) [19:08:24] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10wiki) [19:31:36] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10Gerard.meijssen) [19:36:08] 03(mod) DISPLAYTITLE should allow Arabic and Persian harakats - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16899 (10huji.huji) [19:36:55] hello, i did read an article about intellipedia. does someone know how to classify pages for security like they do? [19:37:24] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10wiki) [19:37:28] i think they just have three wikis. [19:37:32] other than that: [19:37:34] !secrets [19:37:34] --mwbot-- MediaWiki was not designed with read-restrictions in mind, and may not provide air-tight protection against unauthorized access. We will not be held responsible should private information, such as a password or bank details, be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job. [19:37:38] !access [19:37:38] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [19:38:47] hi [19:41:45] is there a possiblity to convert a link into a non link string? [19:41:56] I need this for a template parameter [19:42:14] parameter=[[link]] [19:42:39] or parameter=[[link|linktext]] in this case I want the "linktext" string [19:45:15] I could do that with the regex extension. but without would be better [19:46:43] 03(mod) DISPLAYTITLE should allow Arabic and Persian harakats - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16899 +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif) [19:49:23] Does anybody see why this http://rafb.net/p/M1S7BY89.html is not working in 1.14 anymore? Any globals that got removed? [19:51:54] 03rotem * r47683 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update. [19:55:06] Hubble3000, you'll need to give more info than "is not working" ;) [19:56:19] ok checking php error log. could have been somebody easily spots the wrong command cos it's only since my 1.14 upgrade [19:56:56] If it is, roan is in here and can update his file ;) [19:59:50] 03(NEW) Clean up imagePage.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17617 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (umherirrender_de.wp) [19:59:59] 03(NEW) Unable to login via SUL-account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17618 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (wutsje) [20:00:09] 03raymond * r47684 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (123 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-02-22 19:36 UTC) [20:14:13] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10siebrand) [20:27:54] 03raymond * r47685 10/trunk/extensions/ (79 files in 71 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-02-22 21:02 UTC) [20:31:43] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10wiki) [20:44:43] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10Gerard.meijssen) [20:55:31] so, now i wrote a template which converts links into plaintext: [20:55:34] {{#regex: {{#var:strLink}} |%\[\[:?(?(?=[^\[\]!]*!)[^\[\]!]*!{{!}})([^\[\]]*)\]\]%|$1}} [20:56:07] oh, | are replaced to !, still have to figure out how to make a workaround [20:57:57] 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10wiki) [21:08:59] 03(NEW) No localize link by fullurl/localurl - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17619 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (umherirrender_de.wp) [21:10:23] why do the search results no more display the li icons? can't find the "mistake" in SpecialSearch.php all
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  • s are there :? [21:22:04] Hubble3000, shared.css has this `list-style:none;` [21:22:28] in `.mw-search-results li` selector [21:24:26] ahh! thanks. never touched shared.css before. explains where the mw- classes hide :D [21:26:37] 03raymond * r47686 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesGd.php: [21:26:38] Import translation from gdwiki as far as possible. [21:26:38] PLURAL removed in some cases because PLURAL rules are a bit more complicated in 'gd' [21:26:38] A convertPlural function for 'gd' will follow in the next days. [21:37:23] is it possible to use the authentication mechanizm of mediawiki in order to place a loginpage in front of mediawiki? [21:37:46] adnc: You mean make it so that users have to login to read pages? [21:38:23] chuck: mine is already set up like that. i also would like to have them see something different and not the wiki loginpage and the sidebar [21:38:55] You want to write your own authentication system? [21:39:38] not my own authentication system, it should use mediawikis authentication, but i would like to make use of it and place a simple html page [21:41:08] adnc, you can [21:41:30] you could check it by yourself [21:41:42] or just post let mediawiki handle all the authentication [21:41:47] but from a different page [21:42:17] yes, exact. having mediawiki handle the authentication, but on my html page [21:44:02] Platonides: is this something that would do it? http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-api/2007-October/000117.html [21:44:54] no need for that [21:45:10] Platonides: can you point me to a simple example? [21:47:09] http://pastebin.com/m20e1f233 [21:47:17] that snippet should be enough [21:47:43] of course, you'll need to change www.yourwiki.com/w/index.php to match your needs [21:48:23] Platonides: thank you, i'll have a look into it now [21:51:38] Platonides: wow, thank you! [21:55:08] 03minuteelectron * r47687 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/ (Babel.class.php Babel.php BabelLanguageCodes.class.php): [21:55:08] Babel: [21:55:11] * Rewrite parameter parser, now languages such as "be-tarask" will function (therefore, now all defualt MediaWiki languages). [21:55:12] * Remove option parser, they are no longer used as gender support has been made available in core. [21:55:29] 1.14.0 has the new "Did you mean" search feature? How to enable it? [21:55:55] Release notes * Make "Did you mean" search feature more noticeable. :P [21:58:21] hmm [21:59:53] Hubble3000, you need a search backend capable of producing did you mean... suggestions, like lucene-search or sphinx [22:01:49] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DidYouMean ? [22:02:10] hmm or not [22:02:52] ok guess i need [[Extension:Lucene-search]] and [[Extension:MWSearch]] [22:02:54] Do you guys know why this parser functions #expr is padding the answer with a bunch of zeros: http://jonathanpark.yourwiki.net/wiki/User:Erwin_Springer/test [22:05:00] ok i guess only Extension:MWSearch [22:05:18] no, you need both, and devel version of lucene-search at that [22:05:39] chuck, you have some unclosed
    [22:05:52] 03minuteelectron * r47688 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/ (Babel.class.php Babel.php): * Babel: Gender support for message 'babel'. [22:05:55] huh? [22:06:24] and lots of ampersand errors, too [22:06:26] http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fjonathanpark.yourwiki.net%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DUser%3AErwin_Springer%2Ftest%26action%3Dedit [22:06:27] oh, on the edit page? [22:06:32] yes [22:06:40] that's why the left column goes down [22:07:01] is it okay that there are = signs in the url? [22:07:57] Platonides: is it okay to have ampersands in the CSS @imports [22:09:27] chuck, the ampersand errors is that they should be & [22:09:35] as they're appearing into the page source [22:10:07] ok too bad. won't open my api :P [22:10:49] the bug seems to be on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GlobalCssJs [22:11:24] Platonides: yeah we rewrote that, I'm fixing it in our repo now, just gotta pull it on the server [22:12:02] done, thanks [22:12:10] *chuck wonders why that div tag is missing [22:12:26] is it possible to restrict a particular namespace to some users? [22:12:59] chuck http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension%3AGlobalCssJs&diff=240337&oldid=200519 [22:13:02] adnc: you can restrict editing, but restricting reading is not really supported without an extension, and even then, it's not very secure [22:13:04] adnc, not on vanilla mediawiki [22:13:09] !lockdown [22:13:09] --mwbot-- Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [22:13:43] chuck: thank you. Platonides thank you aswell. i'll look int this extension [22:13:43] Does anybody see why this http://rafb.net/p/M1S7BY89.html is not working in 1.14 anymore (I don't get any php errors)? Any globals that got removed? [22:15:32] Platonides: Why is that ending tag missing? And do you know anything about my original problem? ;-) [22:20:19] i tried with the 1.13 skin folder and it didnt change anything so it it's not workig at all [22:20:33] chuck, this is the unclosed
    http://jonathanpark.yourwiki.net/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Edittools&action=edit [22:22:52] nice, thanks :D [22:23:03] now, why is that thing padding the answer with 0's? :P [22:23:30] don't know [22:23:53] there were some changes to #expr trying to avoid rounding errors [22:24:00] could be related [22:25:55] but wikipedia don't show this behavior [22:26:12] you can try updating ParserFunctions [22:29:28] 03(mod) Clean up imagePage.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17617 +comment (10umherirrender_de.wp) [22:46:41] dumb question, how do I add a user to a group? [22:47:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserRights [22:47:05] I know how to adjust permissions of groups, [22:48:39] tylerknowsthis, ^ [22:50:21] reedy: thanks (Special:UserRights) [22:52:19] is there an interface for protecting certain pages to members of a particular user group? [22:53:08] tylerknowsthis, action=protect [22:53:14] combined with the rights of each group [22:55:16] that's the ['editprotect'] = true; feature to each group right? [22:56:43] 03(NEW) Multiple email notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17620 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Email; (Platonides) [23:02:18] 03ashley * r47689 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserGifts/UserGifts.i18n.php: SocialProfile: please read the fine source (follow-up to r47449) [23:02:26] !userrights [23:02:26] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [23:06:50] 03ashley * r47690 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/ (12 files in 4 dirs): [23:06:50] SocialProfile: create images directory for extension's images and move stuff [23:06:51] from UserWelcome/common/ there if we're gonna have UserWelcome as a part of the [23:06:51] core SocialProfile package, which wasn't my original intention though. added [23:06:51] title_line.gif into repo and changed UserProfile.css not to hotlink it from [23:06:53] images.wikia.com but to get it locally. also did some cleanup to UserWelcome.php [23:06:55] + made it fetch images from our new dir. [23:10:39] 03minuteelectron * r47691 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/ (Babel.php BabelStatic.class.php): * Babel: Change callback so it works on older versions (5.2.0 and lower) of PHP, reported by GerardM. [23:11:41] 03siebrand * r47692 10/trunk/extensions/IMStatus/IMStatus.php: [23:11:42] * some indentation fixes [23:11:42] * add a FIXME [23:18:13] gotta love passive agressive commit messages. [23:18:49] ;-) [23:19:15] Does anybody see why this http://rafb.net/p/M1S7BY89.html is not working in 1.14 anymore (I don't get any php errors)? Any globals or hooks that got removed? Can't update to 1.14 till this works :( [23:19:56] 03ashley * r47693 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserProfile/UserProfilePage.php: SocialProfile: fix [23:20:18] ashley: Does SocialProfile still use mainly manually written SQL queries? [23:20:19] I see 'block unregistered users' and 'sysops' using the Protect feature. is there a way to protect certain pages by a group? [23:27:31] 03(NEW) Special:WantedFiles - link to page not action=edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17621 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Database; (old_school_junkie) [23:55:47] 03(NEW) CentralNotice is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17622 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (cbrown1023)