[00:06:51] 03(NEW) Allow batch edits for API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17623 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (rene.kijewski) [00:22:49] 03(NEW) Book tool is dead - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17624 normal; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lugusto) [00:30:43] has anyone ajaxified mediawiki such that every link you click dynamically updates the interface? [00:34:14] Hi, how can one do to find out the context (i.e. the type of page) in which a MediaWiki message is displayed? [00:37:37] anyone alive? :/ [00:42:08] i don't think so [01:12:31] PieRRoMaN: Grep the source code. [02:00:33] 03(NEW) kmltool and accents - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17625 04BLOCKER; normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (pierre_cb) [02:06:49] Is there an API for getting the current user's email address? action=query&meta=userinfo&uiprop=options has most things, but not that. [02:18:34] GreenReaper: What would the purpose be? [02:18:55] I'm developing http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MediaWikiAuth and I want to be able to transfer user's email addresses from one wiki to another. [02:21:04] The information is available on the logged in user's preferences page, so I figure there's no reason for it not to be in the API as well - but it isn't. [02:23:49] You can't pull user ID either. File a bug? [02:23:58] I get user ID when logged in [02:24:03] or when logging in, rather. [02:25:03] I'll file one, yes. [02:26:05] Thanks. [02:54:00] 03(NEW) Email address not returned in user options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17626 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: API; (greenreaper) [03:49:46] 03(NEW) Allow autoconfirmed users to patrol on ar Wikisource - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17627 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; () [04:14:03] CodeReview precaches the last 50 diffs every single time you update it :( that means if you make a post-commit hook that updates on every commit, you will end up precaching each diff 50 times over 50 commits [04:14:30] and it uses an amazing amount of cpu while it it does this [04:15:48] why do you need a post-commit hook? [04:16:42] so it gets updated [04:16:47] otherwise it doesn't get updated [04:17:27] i haven't been able to make the api thing work, so i do this: cd /var/www/ccnlab/extensions/CodeReview && php svnImport.php ccnlab $REV [04:17:35] but i believe they are equivalent [04:17:38] you guys are doing this too aren't you? [04:20:46] our post-commit hook has this: [04:20:51] wget -q -O /dev/null --post-data="" \ [04:20:51] "http://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=codeupdate&format=xml&repo=MediaWiki&rev=$REV" & [04:21:10] and that precaches 50 diffs every single time you commit.. [04:22:21] if( count($result) <= 2 ) { [04:22:21] foreach( $result as $revData ) { [04:22:22] $diff = $repo->getDiff( $revData['id'] ); // trigger caching [04:22:23] } [04:22:23] } [04:22:27] the last 50? or the last 2? [04:22:50] i guess just svnImport does it. but i'll just change the number. i don't really know why that wget command doesn't work for us [04:22:53] thanks [04:24:11] yes, svnImport.php caches the last 50 [04:24:15] but we've only run it like 3 times ever [04:24:52] I guess it needs some more documentation [04:28:06] !log finished moving ExtensionDistributor working copy [04:28:06] --mwbot-- Wrong channel! [04:28:21] that's what we like to see, informative error messages [04:28:27] heh [04:33:56] I'm trying to create a simple bash script to update a template, but keep getting a message about "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in." -- Any suggestions? http://pastebin.ca/1344673 [04:34:30] 03(FIXED) One page fails in .m. that works in the general site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16999 +comment (10hcatlin) [04:35:30] CodeReview is at 3584 for our repo, while the repo is at 3588. running that wget command with rev=3584 produces no output (success), but CodeReview doesn't get updated [04:35:33] its totally bizarre! [04:36:17] 06(LATER) m.wikipedia.org's "Show" button not expanding section on Nokia N95. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17454 +comment (10hcatlin) [04:37:24] ctyler: make sure you're keeping the cookies, using the correct form data [04:38:34] 03(ASSIGNED) Problems rendering pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17590 +comment (10hcatlin) [04:41:53] 03(FIXED) Front page renders badly on iPhone + some wishes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17609 +comment (10hcatlin) [04:58:20] how do I put ~~~~ on a template, so when somebody subst's it their sig shows up? [05:00:40] OverlordQ: Try ~~~~. [05:01:38] yup, that works, thanks [05:01:40] hey guys! I have a question, has anybody done any research on comment engines in creating a comment area BELOW mediawiki posts (like a wordpress style comment engine), Ive tested a few comment tools so far and they mainly function as seperate 'discussion' style tabs [05:03:02] My current plan is to get the CommentPages (version 34306 by Zachary Hauri) and just redevelop it for what i need, But i always like to check my facts so i dont re-invent wheels [05:04:27] Actually, The best way to explain what i want is a youtube style comment engine underneath wiki entries.. I can do the ajax stuff later, for now it can be static [05:12:02] Is there a mod that makes it possible to rollback all of a person's edits with one button press? [06:20:23] hey guys, ive got a wordpress i want a wiki attached to, how do i configure the wiki so if someone comes from the wordpress and they're logged in, they are logged in to the same username account on the wiki [06:26:38] can anyone help? [06:26:55] 03(mod) Add variable to show the topmost level in the tree of subpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12872 (10fantasy) [06:27:26] might look http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:User_identity_extensions [06:27:44] or write your own: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/UserLoadFromSession [06:28:37] ok im brand new to actually coding with wikis, would i be creating an extension? is that what i need to do? [06:29:20] just look at some of them that work with like vBulletin, all that'd likely need changed is the SQL query inside [06:29:31] k [06:41:51] i think im gonna try to modify the HttpAuth plugin to work for Session variables, sound reasonable? [06:42:22] overlordq since i couldnt find a vbulletin example like you were talking about [06:48:46] hola? [06:53:08] *Lady_Aleena puts out a plate of cookies. [06:58:59] 14(DUP) Add variable to (dis)allow templates in signatures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11414 +comment (10anon.hui) [06:59:01] 03(mod) Forcing template substitution in signatures should have an option in localsettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8179 +comment (10anon.hui) [07:03:25] 03(mod) Forcing template substitution in signatures should have an option in localsettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8179 +comment (10anon.hui) [08:06:52] 03(mod) REVISIONID won't subst - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11964 +comment (10anon.hui) [08:06:53] 03(mod) REVISIONID cannot be substituted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6181 +comment (10anon.hui) [08:20:16] morning all [08:41:40] moin [08:49:41] 14(INVALID) kmltool and accents - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17625 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [08:51:47] 03(mod) Multiple email notifications - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17620 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:04:03] 14(DUP) {{subst:REVISIONID}} doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12694 +comment (10anon.hui) [09:04:17] 03(mod) REVISIONID cannot be substituted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6181 +comment (10anon.hui) [09:30:28] 03nikerabbit * r47694 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [09:30:29] * (bug 17621) Special:WantedFiles has no link to Special:Whatlinkshere [09:30:29] * Use nlinks instead of nmembers in Wantedfiles (does anybody use this page?) [09:30:29] * Removed dead code in Wantedtemplates [09:31:51] 03(FIXED) Special:WantedFiles has no link to Special:Whatlinkshere - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17621 summary; +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:34:44] 03raymond * r47695 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/SMW_Messages.php: Add colons to field labels for consistency with other input forms of core [09:36:01] hi there, I'm looking for possibilities to enable syntax highlighting in the editor window itself in mediawiki [09:36:14] but at the moment I can only find stuff for entries itself [09:36:23] is there anything around? [09:37:00] or do I have to rely on an external editor to have that sort of fancy stuff? :) [09:39:09] the edit window is a plain textarea and cannot be styled with any html or simple javascript... once you start doing complex things to the edit area you need a browser plugin, external editor, or have to fake a textarea with javascript (basically a partial WYSIWYG) [09:45:36] 03raymond * r47696 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/Statistics/SMW_SpecialStatistics.php: Follow up r47602/r47603: Parse the message properly [09:46:26] then I'll have to head to an external editor [09:48:15] ss2: if you want a highlighter i think genshi is what you want [09:48:23] well, see http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amediawiki.org+wysiwyg&btnG=Google+Search [09:48:30] some of those have syntax hilighting, IIRC [09:48:42] but a bit much for such a simple thing that should be possible in a textarea natively [09:50:52] 03(mod) Add variable to show the topmost level in the tree of subpages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12872 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:54:53] *Lady_Aleena leaves more cookies in random spots for everyone. [10:00:01] na, I'm not a fan of wysiwyg [10:00:08] but thx :) [10:04:03] maybe vim will have some extension [10:04:23] *s [10:04:30] 03aaron * r47698 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/UnreviewedPages_body.php: Use fr-under-review class here too per r47697 [10:04:41] 03tstarling * r47699 10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-job-runner/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Package for MediaWiki job queue runners [10:04:51] ss2: check out Geshi [10:05:00] ss2 : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [10:05:57] geshi's nice [10:06:27] ... in the editor window [10:06:31] 03(mod) Prev / Next links not need on ImagePage file history if less than limit - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17614 (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:08:01] oh well :S [10:09:01] 03(mod) lighttpd + sqlite installation failure - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17611 +patch (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:11:55] 03(mod) Delete Extension:Passwordstr - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17604 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:13:01] 03(mod) Some bugs in ImportFreeImages - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17601 summary (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:13:26] err, what now? is it an extension vor vim or vim functionality in mediawiki? [10:13:29] <- confused [10:13:51] but vim functionality in mediawiki would be actually very cool ;) [10:20:42] so check out http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_Vim or whatever it's called ;) [10:23:32] 03(mod) Search option "open in new window" - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16830 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:23:58] hello [10:25:43] hi [10:30:26] 03jojo * r47700 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.i18n.php): added system message coll-print_template_suffix, to use print templates being subpages of regular templates -- this is the more natural solution than the prefixed template names. [10:31:57] 03aaron * r47697 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [10:31:57] * Don't show review level if there is one one available [10:31:57] * Tweaked 'under review' link style [10:49:08] I tweaked the design of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki . [10:49:25] Tried to make the download link stick out a bit more. Considering making a graphic. [10:49:53] Hmm. Can't do that without ruining the language compatibility. ;-) [10:51:29] sure ya can [10:51:57] Could create separate images for each language, but that seems nasty. [10:52:12] A little CSS trickery to make a button-like thing would be possible, though... [10:52:46] There's a suggestion on the talk page to put a donate link on the homepage. [10:52:57] It would fit nicely under the download link. [10:53:41] 03aaron * r47701 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) [10:53:41] * Added htmlspecialchars to some places [10:53:41] * Added purge page links [10:53:41] * Fixed graph purging [10:53:41] * Moved getVoteAggregates() and added docs [10:53:42] * Function access tweaks [10:53:44] * Avoid $wgTitle usage [10:53:46] button-like? [10:54:01] Yeah, something to make it stand out a bit more. [10:54:07] why not use link= ? [10:54:36] I might. There are a few options. [10:55:02] geez, what a boring page [10:55:11] 04(REOPENED) Special page aliases should be overridable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17123 +comment (10danny.b) [10:56:50] bah [11:07:33] Hmm. It's ugly, but it's noticeable now: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki [11:09:37] ew [11:09:46] come on now, you can do better than that [11:09:55] Heh. [11:10:00] Not right now. It's sleep time. [11:10:29] *Marybelle remembers that you have button code somewhere. [11:10:35] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Icons-mini-icon_download.gif [11:10:47] why is that main page templated to there..... [11:10:49] Anyone here who uses the InternalWhitelist (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InternalWhitelist) extension? Any remarks on security or anything ? [11:12:18] does anyone know how i can reactivate that editing of all headings? i once had this option but somehow it is gone, right now i can only edit the whole page [11:14:44] ged456: "[x] Enable section editing via [edit] links" in prefs [11:14:54] under [editing] [11:15:11] After installing the package how do I create a mediawiki? [11:15:27] *Splarka adds int: to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Miscellaneous and wonders who forgot to add it [11:16:00] shouldn't msg/msgnw/raw/subst at least be mentioned there too? [11:16:22] I see them under http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates but not very helpful there [11:17:57] Marybelle: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Nuvola_apps_download_manager.png/120px-Nuvola_apps_download_manager.png ? [11:17:59] ok thanks Splarka, but that was not the reason, the enable section had always been activated. [11:18:09] and then {{int:download}} below it or something [11:19:06] ged456: __NOEDITSECTION__ appears on the page? [11:20:29] 03(WONTFIX) Allow batch edits for API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17623 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:21:36] Splarka: no it doesn't appear. the strange thing is, if i activate the paragraph-right-click-action in the preferences, then i can edit them. what is missing are only the edit-links [11:22:19] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MZMcBride/Sandbox But with better colors? [11:22:47] ged456: maybe you hid them with CSS [11:23:14] ged456: would it be a public accessable wiki we could look at? [11:24:10] no sorry, it is intranet wiki [11:24:33] "Figure out what I did without looking" [11:24:36] can you give less clues, you're making it almost possible to solve your problem [11:24:51] say like "my internal wiki is broken!" and then don't answer any questions, just keep repeating that [11:25:09] *Splarka sets off sarcasm sprinklers, oops [11:27:23] sprinkles! now wheres the ice cream? [11:30:39] Marybelle: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MZMcBride/Sandbox IMHO [11:31:25] hello; how do I clear a database lock ? [11:32:13] depends on how it was locked [11:32:53] well 'SHOW ENGINE INNODB STATUS' displays ugly things [11:33:08] honestly I do not know how it was locked [11:37:00] 03jojo * r47702 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.i18n.php): use a pattern instead, is the more general solution. [11:39:38] 03raymond * r47703 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.i18n.php: Follow up r47702: rename message for 'de' too [12:18:49] 03(mod) Front page renders badly on iPhone + some wishes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17609 (10H92.wikipedia) [12:37:51] 03tstarling * r47704 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/commandLine.inc: [12:37:51] * Remove /home references in wikimedia mode [12:37:51] * Allow MW_INSTALL_PATH='' as a shortcut for deletion of the environment variable [12:45:48] 03(mod) Send a cookie with each block? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3233 +comment (10seewolf) [12:57:11] 03(mod) Allow batch edits for API - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17623 (10rene.kijewski) [13:03:28] 03(mod) Allow batch edits for API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17623 (10roan.kattouw) [13:15:37] Hello, I encounter some issue with image upload, image is correctly uploaded but I'm redirected on a not existing article at the end of the process (404 error) I've found nothing on FAQ, someone have a clue please ? [13:34:44] 03catrope * r47705 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryUserInfo.php): API: (bug 17626) Added uiprop=email to meta=userinfo [13:35:12] 03(FIXED) Email address not returned in user options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17626 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:54:40] 03(mod) Front page renders badly on iPhone + some wishes - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17609 (10H92.wikipedia) [13:58:40] 03(mod) Send a cookie with each block? - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3233 +comment (10gtisza) [14:08:34] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor appears broken [14:10:01] nobody have any idea about 404 error after redirection after uploading an image please ? [14:15:14] Maxime: can you give an example of the URL you are taken to after upload, and the URL actual description page of the file you expect to end up on? [14:15:32] (omit domain name if you need to) [14:15:35] any one knows where i can get help for the fckeditor? [14:15:42] anything changed within the last two hours on the live sites that would stop bots from working? [14:15:48] I end to such page [14:15:49] http://pl.playsoft.fr/wiki/Image:Test.jpg [14:16:50] and what is the correct page? [14:16:57] that's the problem [14:17:04] it seems that page is simply not created [14:17:05] okay, where is the upload form? [14:17:18] wiki/Special:Upload [14:17:39] http://pl.playsoft.fr/wiki/Special:Upload doesn't work [14:17:42] link to it? [14:17:46] hello [14:18:04] (there is IP filter on the domain actually) [14:18:10] but it is working for me [14:18:13] ahh, then probably that is the reason, heh [14:18:20] pages don't intrinsically have to exist on a wiki [14:18:50] (but dunno what your specific problem would be) [14:20:26] any clue ? on which direction I should search ? , because when I create an article it is working and for me it seem to be the same to create an article or an image article ? [14:21:32] i use mediawiki, when i want to create pages with umlauts(ä,ü,ö,ß) then i get server error 500 [14:21:37] can you help me? [14:21:41] what version are you using Maxime? [14:21:58] 1.9.3 [14:22:03] !500 [14:22:03] --mwbot-- the HTTP error code for an internal server error. It is rarely triggered by mediawiki itself and is more commonly a result of a faulty PHP setup or invalid or illegal options in htaccess. See Apache's error log for details. [14:22:46] Max: do the /wiki/Image:Filename pages work after refresh/purge? or ever? [14:24:37] not in never worked, neither after refresh / purge [14:24:59] Special:Prefixindex/Image: show anything? [14:28:12] Yep [14:28:17] I can see this Test.jpg there [14:29:38] do you get an actual 404 error or just the text from MediaWiki:Noarticletext ? [14:30:03] 404 [14:30:24] object not found [14:30:34] how about http://pl.playsoft.fr/wiki/NO_SUCH_PAGE_HERE ? [14:30:35] url was not found on server [14:30:48] sounds like something to do with your filters or server [14:30:52] this one is working [14:31:08] mwbot: i don't find anything useful in the log files [14:31:14] :( [14:31:43] Maxime: try http://pl.playsoft.fr/wiki/Image:Nothing_to_see_here.jpg ? [14:31:59] this lead to a 404 as well [14:32:58] that doesn't smell like mediawiki's fault [14:33:51] hum if I try wihtout the extension [14:33:58] it display me a correct page [14:34:12] Image/Nothing_to_see_here [14:34:30] with : not / sorry [14:34:38] Image:Nothing_to_see_here [14:35:04] then it is probably a filter on your web server block pagenames with image extensions or something [14:35:06] can it be due to mediawiki extension filderS ? [14:35:08] 03rotem * r47706 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he. [14:35:11] ok [14:35:15] http://pl.playsoft.fr/wiki/Image:Test.jpg?foobar [14:35:16] I will search on this side [14:35:25] 404 [14:35:30] query-string aware then [14:35:45] thank you very much for your help and time [14:35:49] k [14:47:04] hello [14:48:39] Is it possible to put a template in all the pages, as a header? I'm searching for deafault templates but I can't find any. I'd need to set a i18n header on wiki.blender.org but no luck atm [14:49:02] not sure what an "i18n header" is, but perhaps you want MediaWiki:Sitenotice [14:49:11] At the moment we need to manually put the template in each page [14:49:17] flyingparchment: thx for answering [14:49:20] (edit the page, and the contents will be displayed on every page) [14:50:14] flyingparchment: thx, and that appears at the top of all contents? [14:50:19] yes [14:50:24] ah cool [14:50:31] and to set a footer? [14:50:32] well, at the top of all pages, above content/titles [14:50:46] mindrones: kins of sounds liek you want polyglot [14:50:49] #polyglot [14:50:52] err [14:50:55] !e polyglot [14:50:55] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:polyglot [14:51:09] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageNotice [14:51:12] thanks will look into it [14:51:40] (PageNotice there can set a footer thing) [14:51:45] I also need some for having automatic see also, without adding things in each page [14:51:54] Splarka: ah ok [14:51:56] thx [14:52:08] how would that work? would it just guess? [14:52:40] Splarka: It'd like to collect evry internal link in the page with dpl, and put them in "see also" [14:52:52] and external links ina "External links" section [14:53:10] maybe not really a pure see also section, but a reminder of the links used in the page [14:53:45] probably easy to do with a custom extension, get a page rendering hook and expose the links and external links tables for the title [14:53:46] flyingparchment: so Mediawiki: is the place for global things? [14:54:07] Splarka: argh I don't wanna write an extension indeed :) [14:54:24] well, if DPL can't do that already I don't think there is one that does [14:54:53] but can i use templates and dpl in Mediawiki namespace as per normal pages? [14:55:01] Splarka: ah I see what u mean [14:55:50] you can't use them in the Sitenotice like you might think, they might work in Extension:PageNotice though [14:56:09] haha, dpl in the sitenotice [14:56:11] Sitenotice has the nasty habit of not caching per-page [14:56:47] you'd probably just want to go ahead and write your own extension... [14:57:54] linksfrom = {{FULLPAGENAME}} might work in for ya [14:59:43] is there a page listing all the messages? I cant find a clear manual or maybe it is because they are too much :) [14:59:47] Splarka: thx! :) [14:59:52] MediaWiki:Allmessages [14:59:56] yeah [15:00:03] but note there are... lots [15:00:20] Splarka: but I mean a manual for them :) [15:00:27] they do what they say [15:00:47] ok [15:01:03] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:System_message [15:01:12] for example I wanted to change nstab for custom namespaces and I got lost :/ [15:02:01] apart from nstab-main and the others nstab-category and such I didn0t find any inf on how to change nstab- [15:02:13] just create nstab-namespacenameinlowercase [15:02:14] mediawiki is kindof a monster [15:02:30] nstab-flibble for Flibble: [15:02:31] wow, I've thought of it, but Ididn0t try, I'm stupid :) [15:02:33] Splarka: thx [15:02:48] kinda annoying, that [15:03:13] Splarka: so normal rule is to have namespace name itself. can I use templates for that? [15:03:20] also annoying is Manual:Hooks doesn't have section anchors for the "Hooks grouped by function" groups [15:03:30] yes indeed [15:03:35] *Splarka edits it [15:03:40] ... say what? [15:03:49] a template for nstab-flibble ? [15:04:16] say I wanna read the page title and use a nstab name based on that [15:04:36] well, you can do some things... like {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Flibble:Something|my special page|flibble}} [15:04:49] ah perfect! [15:04:50] (requires parserfunction extension, and requires you to hate your response times) [15:04:58] :) [15:05:08] we have ParserFunctions [15:05:53] I kinda love wiki now that I have to use it, but it'sa hell of a giant eh :) [15:06:22] is this a place for users or even developers of mediawiki? [15:06:45] and sadistic voyeurs who love to watch those two groups argue and become frustrated [15:07:31] :)) I can understand, before I kinda looked at wiki with disgust I have to admit [15:07:33] hmm [15:07:52] this is place for epeen and such! [15:09:03] hmm, sweet [15:09:11] another annoyance is for searches, all contents in "Doc:" comes under the D:, but I guess I have to learn how to remove the namespace from search responses [15:09:24] |- id="Article_Management" works on [15:10:03] Splarka: thanks for helping :) [15:11:47] rar [15:12:04] Splarka: sorry to bother, I can't create a new "nstab-xxx" [15:12:16] Splarka: as admin on my local test wiki [15:12:35] Splarka: just go to that page and edit? [15:12:39] yes [15:12:48] cool [15:12:50] thx [15:12:51] you need 'editinterface' right but admin has that by default [15:14:19] *Splarka tests [15:19:14] 03(mod) Multiple email notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17620 (10Platonides) [15:19:16] mindrones: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks#Page_Rendering [15:19:36] one of those should be easy enough to hook into and insert more content or html through an extension [15:20:15] Splarka: wow u did this now? :D [15:20:24] Splarka: thanks! [15:21:20] see http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:Hooks&action=history for what I just did [15:21:48] Is updating to MW 1.14 a simple process or is it going to kill my extensions? [15:23:34] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_hard_is_it_to_upgrade.3F [15:23:39] Splarka: I saw that :) [15:28:38] Splarka: problem is I'm not yet able to use hooks, at least I think I can't use them in templates directly, so I'll have to study this more to use them, but thanks a lot [15:28:48] Splarka: I'm using the nstab thing already [15:29:51] hacky [15:35:22] :) [15:47:32] Splarka: mm, I've edited nstab-dev but it doesn't show up in Special:Allmessages, even if I click on Show edited [15:47:54] custom ones you make don't always show there [15:48:27] Splarka: it cool because I can write a link based on the first "folder" in the page title but I have the feeling that other should know what I've done, espacially when I'm not online [15:48:27] Allmessages shows all the ones that are pre-defined, and the page doesn't always have to exist on the wiki [15:48:40] if you want to see all the ones you've defined, use Special:PrefixIndex/MediaWiki: [15:48:50] ah that yes [15:49:26] cool thx [15:49:36] for the ones with ambiguous names, like those depending on a user defined group name or page, the system can't predict them all to show them in Allmessages [15:49:50] group- grouppage- right- editnotice- nstab- etc [15:50:15] I'm using this in nstabdev: {{#switch:{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}|1|1}}|Nstab-dev=ok||Doc=Developer Documentation page|Py=Python Developer page|Ref=Developer Reference page|SundayMeetingAgenda=Sunday Meeting page|Developer page}} [15:51:00] *cough*hack*cough* [15:52:31] :)) a hack! [15:53:25] oh wait I have a question from weeks [15:53:50] Splarka: may I ask again? sorry to bother [15:54:12] go ahead [15:54:22] (someone will come by later and !ask you, but they're !ask-holes) [15:54:41] oh thanks! [15:55:10] is the term "breadcrumb" used in wiki slang? [15:55:19] sort of [15:55:41] some people call the backlinks in subpaging 'breadcrumbs' [15:56:05] ok, problem is: I can have them or not, it seems buggy. examples: [15:56:05] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Subpages [15:56:25] there is also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs_(Kimon) etc [15:56:30] here I have themhttp://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Manual/Modelling/Meshes/Subdivision_Surfaces [15:56:49] here not: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Doc/Hackers_Guide/Code_History [15:56:53] why? [15:57:07] Subpaging has to be enabled in the namespace, and the parent pages have to exist [15:57:12] *Splarka looks [15:57:26] I didnt touch anything, the only trick I've found is that all the folders have to exist [15:57:38] so either Dev: doesn't have subpaging, or Dev:Doc/Hackers_Guide and Dev:Doc don't exist [15:58:10] they seem to exist, so the former [15:58:33] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages [15:59:04] mm, let's see if other pages have them [15:59:18] you can try it by using {{BASEPAGENAME}} {{SUBPAGENAME}} on a sub page in Dev: namespace and Doc: namespace, like.. [15:59:25] I remember I have found 2 pages under Meta: with different behaviour [15:59:32] http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Doc/Subpage?action=edit and http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:Doc/Subpage?action=edit [16:00:14] in preview, they should show: "Doc:Doc" and "Subpage" for enabled, and "Dev:Doc/Subpage" and "Dev:Doc/Subpage" for disabled [16:01:39] *mindrones is trying thx [16:04:10] mm, in previews, under Dev: I have "Doc/Subpage Doc/Subpage" while under Doc: I have "Doc Subpage" only [16:04:24] Splarka: does it makes sense? [16:04:28] perfect sense [16:04:34] ah okie [16:04:46] it means $wgNamespacesWithSubpages is defined with doc as true and dev as false [16:05:32] 03(mod) Add variable to show the topmost level in the tree of subpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12872 (10sam) [16:05:40] Ss ah cool, I have to say this to wiki.blender admin, I'm just a por sysop :) [16:05:45] Splarka: i meant [16:06:00] some namespaces have it true by default (talk, user) some false (main for example-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC/DC ), custom ones have to be added ( [16:06:07] false by default) [16:06:49] ok [16:06:54] thanks again :) [16:07:23]

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