[00:00:50] Special:Preferences is affected too [00:01:59] werdnum: you forgot to add AbuseFilterVariableHolder.php in r47829 [00:02:08] MrZ-man|busy: bah [00:02:23] techman224: did you run update.php? [00:03:15] techman224: are you using AbuseFilter? [00:03:27] MrZ-man, yes [00:03:43] 03werdna * r47850 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilterVariableHolder.php: svn add AbuseFilterVariableHolder.php [00:03:51] Skizzerz, I have ran update.php [00:04:01] techman224: update it to r47850 [00:04:26] MrZ-man, fixed [00:33:50] 03(mod) Thumbnail generation fails for images with special characters in the title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17678 (10dasch_87) [00:37:37] 03(mod) Thumbnail generation fails for images with special characters in the title - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17678 (10dasch_87) [00:50:52] 03(NEW) Include special pages in page view counts and statistics - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17689 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [00:54:19] 03(mod) Thumbnail generation fails for images with special characters in the title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17678 (10dasch_87) [00:54:24] Can anyone link me to transwiki's infobox template, I cant seem to find it. [01:21:14] is there sth similar to if(!$this->data['loggedin']) for if Sysop? [01:24:20] you should check the permissions/rights rather than the user group [01:25:14] (and if it is a new one that you want only sysops to have, you should crete a new right, give it to sysops, and then check for it) [01:25:39] $wgUser->isAllowed() [01:26:03] so if(!$this->data['loggedin']) is bad as well? [01:26:15] *werdnum shrugs [01:26:16] it works [01:27:01] Yeah I think there is a method to do it also [01:27:14] I know that there is isAnon, check the API docs and you'll find it [01:27:17] got it from the FAQ though. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_hide_the_section_edit_links_for_users_who_are_not_logged_in.3F [01:27:29] I think there are only two places left where 'sysop' is checked for in the code, the protection form (protection levels), and site stats related to number of administrators [01:28:25] k, will use $wgUser->isAllowed() for the sysop check [01:29:11] Hubble3000: what exactly are you trying to do ?? [01:29:13] well, don't test for sysop, test for whatever right affects whatever you are doing... [01:29:26] yep [01:30:13] often wikis will need to later create supergroups (like multi-wiki staff/stewards/helpers) and subgroups (like semi-trusted subordinates) with these fiddling rights [01:30:23] trying to get rid of the talk namespace. [01:30:54] $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['accesstalk'] = true; [01:31:05] heh [01:31:41] first step would be to hide the discussion tab for non-sysops but I surely fail at removing all ns selectors like on search, special pages [01:32:00] ew [01:32:58] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceProtection [01:33:14] i know getting rid of the talk ns is uncool but it bugs me cos it's completely unused except for comments on articles which i dsplay on the article itself [01:33:21] just make them all unwritable and then #ca-talk {display:none;} [01:33:43] (why would sysops even need them?) [01:34:04] for editing the comments left on articles [01:34:15] like spam [01:34:23] i use Extensions:ArticleComments [01:34:40] ahh, and ew [01:35:04] ok $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['accesstalk'] = true; is not working? [01:35:25] I just made that up [01:35:37] you have to check for it with isAllowed() or userCan() or whatever it is [01:35:42] ok thought it will hide everything already [01:36:02] but really... [01:36:04] !morbo [01:36:04] --mwbot-- http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/330/morbomediawikiaf9.jpg [01:36:18] so you won't have any kind of security, just convenience [01:37:07] Morbo likes stupid humans! [01:50:25] !wg ExternalServers [01:50:25] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgExternalServers [01:54:38] 03(NEW) Noinclude redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17690 normal; normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (seahen123) [02:00:47] Hello, how long is media wiki supposed to take for installation? It seems to be hanging on the "Creating tables..." part. [02:02:38] no more than a half hour [02:05:08] if it stopped there you have a problem, it shouldn't take anything to create the tables [02:07:19] I haven't waited half an hour yet. How do I fix the problem? [02:09:06] I also received both of these errors twice each: [02:09:17] Warning: urlencode() expects parameter 1 to be strictly a binary string, Unicode string given in /home/www/radiantworldstudios.com/wiki/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 172 [02:09:27] Warning: Could not convert binary string to Unicode string (converter UTF-8 failed on bytes (0xE7) at offset 4) in /home/www/radiantworldstudios.com/wiki/config/index.php on line 2017 [02:18:51] you stop using PHP 6 [02:20:50] *AaronSchulz reads http://www.corephp.co.uk/archives/19-Prepare-for-PHP-6.html [02:21:09] That's the only solution? [02:21:29] AaronSchulz: that was from 2005 [02:21:55] it's not really certain yet what PHP 6 will look like when it's released [02:22:17] there's no point porting MediaWiki to it until the platform has some amount of stability [02:22:30] Got it. So 5.2.5 is newer than 6.0? [02:22:38] there's no 6.0 [02:22:43] there's just CVS HEAD [02:23:03] it's where developers commit their crappy experimental code that won't be released for years [02:23:11] g2k thanks [02:24:11] PHP6 is like Perl6, a great mythic beast that nobody will see in their lifetime [02:24:38] PHP 6 is not quite up to Perl 6 status yet, but it is heading that way [02:25:00] 9 years and counting :) [02:25:18] That seems to have did it. 5 second installation :P [02:26:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Cartwright#Personal_life [02:26:52] hehe [02:27:11] 'In a 2000 interview with The Oregonian, Cartwright explained that while she owns her regular speaking voice, a character's voice is copyrighted. She can use Bart's voice in public but can not record original dialogue without approval.' [02:29:09] I ChModded the LocalSettings.php file to "600", is that right? [02:29:11] 03(mod) Thumbnail generation fails for images with special characters in the title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17678 (10dasch_87) [02:29:32] so happy that they made the sigils invariant in perl6 [02:30:22] Cokemonkey11: yes, assuming you want web users to be able to read and edit it, but not administrators [02:30:48] there's not really a right answer to that question [02:30:53] especially if you don't have root access [02:31:46] I want only me to be able to read it and modify it. I'm the only one with an ftp account. I don't want some anon to be able to see it. [02:31:59] I mean.. that's what I want right? [02:32:24] obviously the web server has to be able to read it [02:32:42] generally LocalSettings.php is created by the web server, so it's owned by it [02:32:54] so 600 means read/write for the web server, and no permissions for anyone else [02:32:57] which is probably reasonable [02:33:18] at least it protects you from CUPS vulnerabilities, right? [02:34:01] Okay thank you, one other question. Our wiki is meant to hold sensitive data from the public - we're keeping game design docs here. How do I prevent non-registered users from registering or viewing our wiki? [02:34:04] if you downloaded it and uploaded it again, then it'll be owned by you [02:34:20] so then you'd need it to be 644 so the webserver can read it [02:35:00] I'm probably meant to invoke mwbot [02:35:25] I don't know what that means. and 644 gives public access to reading the file which contains sensitive data (passwords) [02:36:01] !access | Cokemonkey11 [02:36:01] --mwbot-- Cokemonkey11: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [02:36:05] there we go [02:36:41] Thanks again. [02:36:49] if you want security, you shouldn't use a shared webserver [02:37:01] unix permissions won't keep you safe [02:37:30] but the other options are more expensive [02:38:45] I'm not worried. I just don't want the general public that discovered firefox to be able to see our stuff [03:06:34] 03werdna * r47851 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Store Abuse Filter variable dumps to external storage instead of leaving in afl_var_dump. afl_var_dump needs to be left as a BLOB for the moment for backwards-compatibility. [03:18:25] Where can I get the sourcecode for Template:!? [03:26:58] sorry that wasnt a joke, I just relized that you simply add "|" [03:39:58] 03(FIXED) morebots identica feed needs to trim long messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17684 +comment (10Andrew) [04:02:27] Hello. I've got an issue with svg images not uploading properly. See http://theaquariumwiki.com/Image:CC_some_rights_reserved.svg for an example of what went wrong [04:03:08] The original is the image (by the same name) at the commons. I can link it if nessary [04:09:12] Beh got disconnected [04:11:36] I'm haveing some difficulty with a template. [04:11:44] I keep getting this. [04:11:46] http://71.71.224.132/wiki/index.php/Lifixs [04:12:17] and also its not right aligned [04:12:17] I assume the HTML is the error? [04:12:26] yes [04:13:18] its rendering the HTML you have in the template [04:13:47] use the wikicode table [04:18:48] 03tstarling * r47852 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [04:18:48] * Added restart-on-error feature to ForkController, changed the interface to suit. [04:18:48] * Close some sockets before pcntl_exec() in an attempt to delay file handle exhaustion. [04:19:47] thankyou [04:25:45] someone might want to look at #17049 it should be a quick one [04:29:01] Sorry, stupid question. [04:29:24] Why is the infobox getting pushed down in this article. [04:29:28] http://71.71.224.132/wiki/index.php/Saved_Soul [04:32:47] IceGuest_75_ check your pseudo-css in your template... [04:32:58] style="width: 20em; text-align: left; font-size: 90%" cellspacing="2" align="right" [04:33:01] yuk ^^' [04:33:32] should try this ==> style="width: 20em; text-align: left; font-size: 90%; clear: right;" cellspacing="2" [04:34:50] (just a hunch) [04:38:07] 03(FIXED) New favicon for Wikibooks projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17049 +comment (10tstarling) [04:38:14] @ Alphos; That puts it at the bottem of the text. [04:38:48] �_� [04:38:50] or below the text rather [04:40:19] oh wait.. [04:44:03] ok well that causes nothing to change [04:45:13] :/ [04:47:45] sorry, I dont know what I'm doing wrong. [04:49:28] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-February/050337.html IceGuest_75_: Because you don't close the table. [04:50:24] *Pathoschild just fixed it. :) [04:50:58] aha [04:51:03] thank you [04:51:12] Welcome. [05:14:24] 03(NEW) Support CC0 licence - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17691 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (nsk) [05:16:02] does special:import support compressed files at all? [05:37:55] 03(mod) Weaken DISPLAYTITLE restictions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12998 +comment (10rememberthedot) [05:55:12] 03(mod) History pages not functioning at all on Wikipedia and Wiktionary. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17655 (10audude08) [05:56:37] 04(REOPENED) History pages not functioning at all on Wikipedia and Wiktionary. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17655 (10audude08) [06:07:46] how do i add new users to my wiki? [06:09:47] 03(FIXED) History pages not functioning at all on Wikipedia and Wiktionary. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17655 +comment (10tstarling) [06:12:44] k-man i s'pose they would do that themselves [06:13:33] wikis... are just like matter : you can edit, but you can't create users from nothing :p [06:16:37] well - i know, but this wiki is for internal use in my co. so i don't want random people editing it [06:16:54] so i set it so new users cannot register themselves [06:17:01] i think [06:17:13] i can't remember - so long since i set it up [06:21:09] k-man: Special:UserLogin/signup [06:21:31] [by e-mail] [06:22:04] Splarka: thanks [06:27:22] how do you delete users? [06:28:52] by closing your eyes and plugging your ears and going "la la la I can't see you" [06:29:02] !deleteuser [06:29:02] --mwbot-- Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with . You can also try [06:29:28] ok, thanks Splarka [06:39:16] 03(NEW) Add "(list of members)" link to implicit group 'user' in Special:Listgrouprights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17692 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [06:40:10] 03(mod) Add "(list of members)" link to implicit group 'user' in Special:Listgrouprights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17692 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [06:43:53] hi [06:51:54] Quick question. I see that pdf generation was just turned up on enwiki. I see it in monobook, but not classic skin [06:52:03] is this a mediawiki or en configuration issue? [06:52:15] mediawiki [06:52:23] Should I file a bug report? [06:52:44] yes [06:54:03] is it an extension or is it part of mediawiki? [06:54:16] extension [06:54:27] it's called "Collection" [06:55:57] done [06:55:59] 03(NEW) Article->PDF not available in classic skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17693 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (mapellegrini) [06:56:00] Thanks, Tim [07:10:10] 03(NEW) Enable subpages on Lithuanian Wikipedia template namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17694 15enhancement; normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (vpovilaitis) [07:13:51] 03purodha * r47853 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialListgrouprights.php): (bug 17692) Added (list of members) link to 'user' in Special:Listgrouprights [07:14:48] 03(FIXED) Add "(list of members)" link to implicit group 'user' in Special:Listgrouprights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17692 +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [07:17:50] Ok, this is weird [07:18:01] can someone please explain to me what "account automatically created" in the checkuser log mean? [07:18:07] Is that something having to do with account unification? [07:30:45] ya mean http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Log/newusers ? [07:31:50] most of those were automatically created, but a few were done manually [07:31:54] what does automatic creation mean? [07:32:00] It means it was done via unified login, right? [07:32:26] right, means they got the cookies before they visited the wiki [07:32:34] so they were already logged in, but didn't yet actually have an account [07:36:22] hi [07:37:09] rar [07:47:15] *Marybelle goes to look up Collection-related extensions. [07:51:14] I imagine some of these bugs are already filed under PediaPress' bug tracker... [07:52:58] 03(NEW) File names for generated PDFs are nondescript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17695 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (public) [07:55:41] Is there a DDoS possibility with PDF generation? [07:56:09] (NEW) PDFs suck ass [07:56:12] It seems like it would be trivial to request PDFs of a lot of large articles at once and overload the system. [07:59:17] 03(NEW) Collection rendering page needs better visual cue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17696 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (public) [08:11:48] 03raymond * r47854 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: Add 'action-$right' messages [08:19:28] hi [08:21:18] hmm, SEARCH, TOOLBOX and LANGUAGES work in MediaWiki:Sidebar... is there one for collections? and/or can extensions register new Sidebar positionlets? [08:21:45] probably [08:23:49] *Splarka looks at der code [08:26:37] looks hardcodex [08:27:05] and just spits them out at the end if they aren't there [08:27:20] poo [08:27:32] I want to build a template that can be used to build ip lists: http://pastie.org/401882 <-- this way but I am looking for a solution to _not_ define hundreds of variables :)...so can I use some sort of loop or something similar? [08:29:27] I just found "Repetition within a page" and I believe it's what I'm looking for :) [08:31:08] avarus: is this on WMF or your own wiki? [08:31:27] local wiki here at the company [08:31:54] 03(NEW) Size limit for revision and diff displays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17697 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (mapellegrini) [08:31:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LoopFunctions [08:32:01] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Loops [08:32:52] though it is possible to do semi-manually with the more basic ParserFunctions extension as used on Wikipedia [08:33:06] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Loop [08:33:26] which is 150 lines of: [08:33:27] -->{{#ifexpr:({{{1}}}*2-000)>000|{{{2}}}}}{{#ifexpr:({{{1}}}*2-001)>001|{{{2}}}}} Hi I just did a clean install of mediawiki 1.13.3. But there is some kind of problem with the wiki-markup or something. See these pics: http://img.skitch.com/20090227-jm5h28mym6pcb6gie9uwjtanq5.jpg and http://img.skitch.com/20090227-8cj77thg3f4iwts3uj9wh2748b.jpg Anyone seen anything like this before? [16:19:48] there are already some thoughts about the MW implementation on this page: http://wikitracer.com/docs/WTMediaWiki [16:20:13] Maybe I picked the wrong DB-setting under the install? [16:20:28] emil--: Possible. You should install 1.14.0 (the most recent one) anyway [16:21:23] RoanKattouw: I was thinking of posting on the MW mailing lists, which one do you think would be appropriate? [16:21:32] wikitech-l [16:21:43] ok thanks [16:22:50] Okay. [16:39:49] 03ashley * r47866 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserRelationship/SpecialViewRelationships.php: SocialProfile: cleanup & spacing [16:49:46] 03greg * r47867 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (postgres/tables.sql tables.sql): Whitespace consistency. [16:51:21] hello. is it possible to call the parser from a parser hook ? [16:51:36] $wgParser->recursiveTagParse() [16:51:43] thanks [16:51:47] See also the docs about parser hooks on MW.org [17:00:46] Hello there. Don't know if I'm in the right place. [17:01:32] I'm looking for help on finding an extension for mediawiki which suits me best. [17:01:46] is this the right place? [17:02:11] I think so [17:02:24] You might wanna look at the extension matrix first though [17:02:25] !extensions [17:02:25] --mwbot-- MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See for an overview of known extensions. [17:03:50] Well, i've been there already. but I'm not able to find the right extension. and so I thought somebody here knows of the best extension for me. [17:04:13] I try to explain my "problem" or wish [17:06:02] I'd like, if a new articel/page is created in minimum 1 category has to been chosen from a list. [17:12:32] Hi All, I am skinning a wikimedia site and can't seem to find where the system stores the skin it uses for logged in users. I have created a custom skin and it works properly for anonymous users but when a user logs it the website reverts to monobook. Any suggestions? [17:13:03] I was just working with that, apparently it saves the old default as the user's preference that overrides the global default [17:13:50] Ah so then I can probably write over it in the user settings in the database I am guessing? Or did you find a good way to fix it? [17:14:09] I didn't really look into it further [17:14:45] Okay well thank you for the start, I am gonna go rummage about in the code for awhile again [17:19:46] I have installed the recaptcha version of ConfirmEdit, but it doesn't seem to have much effect, even if I turn off all the "skipcaptcha" classes and enable it for every edit. The only difference is that it seems to make account creation impossible, throwing up some error in chinese or japanese when you try to make an account. [17:20:08] If anyone has any idea at all what this could be, I'd appreciate it [17:25:01] hi [17:25:14] hmm, disregard that question, apparently I'm running an older mediawiki [17:25:34] 03aaron * r47868 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.hooks.php): [17:25:34] * Don't add on to RC queries when not needed [17:25:34] * Fixed comment [17:26:13] is it possible to sperate a wikis database by namespaces? I want to have a single database for the template: namespace. [17:26:52] Then I have more wikis which should use that database for their templates to share them but don't share their content [17:29:36] 03greg * r47869 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/compare_schemas.pl: Quick fixes for new format of tables.sql [17:31:45] no ideas? [17:34:08] !scarytransclusion | Danwe [17:34:08] --mwbot-- Danwe: I don't know anything about "scarytransclusion". [17:34:15] Useless bot. [17:34:49] !scarytransclusion | Danwe [17:34:49] --mwbot-- Danwe: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual%3A%24wgEnableScaryTranscluding [17:34:57] Something like that might work. [17:35:08] Why would you want a separate DB for just templates, though? [17:35:53] because i develope some very special templates which I'd like to share with all people who interested in. [17:36:08] it's more for non puplic wikis [17:36:09] Ah, okay. Well scary transclusion is probably what you're after. [17:36:57] erhart, Gigs: A user's skin is a user preference. Prefs are stored in the user_options field in the user table; the default skin (for anons and newly created users) is set in LocalSettings.php [17:37:11] ahhh cool! [17:37:21] wgEnableScaryTranscluding has somethink to do with interwiki. but i also have some bad experience with interwiki [17:37:25] Hi. I am trying to upgrade following: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading_MediaWiki#Alternative_2:_Re-run_the_installer . The problem that I have is that when I run the installer again I do not get any option to set up the $wgDBprefix . Do you know how to accomplish it? Thank you. [17:37:48] adrian15: There's a prefix input on the configuration installer page. [17:37:54] interwiki for example don't shows on the bottom of the article when it's in edit mode which templates are used [17:38:10] adrian15: Somewhere around the database name. [17:38:52] Danwe: Interwiki links usually show in the sidebar, not at the bottom of the article. [17:39:03] If you're using Monobook (the default skin). [17:39:37] Marybelle: But I have filled in all the fields and saw nothing. [17:39:54] I run /w/config/index.php (you are talk about this url, isn't it? [17:40:00] Yes. [17:40:08] another problem is that you have to use a prefix for the templates, i think [17:40:34] Yes. [17:40:59] Well, I'm not sure if scary transclusion requires prefixes or not. It probably does. [17:41:55] hm, isn't there another way than interwiki? something with mysql perhaps? [17:41:59] RoanKattouw: you wouldn't by chance know where it writes the skin as the user preference? I am guessing it is in SpecialPreferences.php , I am just trying to override it so that there is a uniform custom look to the page for both anonymous or logged in [17:42:26] adrian15: MySQL specific options --> Database table prefix. [17:42:29] It's the first option. [17:43:45] Marybelle: But this is once you have already run the installation and create the default tables, isn't it ? [17:44:24] You just need to use the same prefix as you did previously. And the installer will update your tables. [17:44:43] Marybelle: I know. But where the hell I am supposed to type in? [17:45:08] Marybelle: Can we please talk in private so that I show what I am currently looking at? [17:45:18] No need to speak in private. :-) [17:45:21] Marybelle: *I show you [17:45:32] Marybelle: ok then [17:45:51] http://pruebita.com/dbprefix.png [17:45:55] It should look like that. [17:47:23] Marybelle: http://www.gulic.org/pastebin/16 [17:47:33] Marybelle: I am going to check your png [17:48:12] Marybelle: I do not see anything like it [17:48:31] You don't see anything that says "database table prefix"? [17:49:44] Marybelle: First it says please set up the wiki first [17:52:23] Marybelle: Then I get: http://www.gulic.org/pastebin/17 [17:52:52] Marybelle: No. Prefix is not found. [17:54:15] Marybelle: Any ideas ? [17:54:29] Nope. [17:55:08] Is there some caching of LocalSettings even if you don't run memcache or anything like that? I just changed to allow inline images, tried clearing browser cache, shift reload, purge=true etc... until I did a null edit, nothing was showing up. [17:56:13] 03aaron * r47870 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Removed strval calls from magicLinkCallback(); items already comes in as one [17:57:46] Marybelle: And what about using AdminSettings ? [17:57:58] What about it? [17:59:02] Marybelle: Editing AdminSettings.php and adding the variable there. Do you think it should work? I am going to try to hack config/index.php in the meanwhile [17:59:29] I think you're quite confused about how all of this works. [17:59:36] But you'll figure it out. [18:03:27] RoanKattouw: Nevermind I found where I could override it in User.php [18:04:50] Gigs: If you were looking for how to force an override of the template it is in User.php and you can just override $userSkin in the code [18:09:20] cool [18:17:13] how can i let an article appear twice in a category? i want to use two sortkeys under which the page should be listed [18:17:24] You can't [18:18:02] thought so. :( [18:23:11] 03(mod) Install PdfHandler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215 (10brion) [18:26:54] 03(mod) Install PdfHandler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215 +comment (10techman224) [18:38:46] 03(mod) Difficulties reaching IPv6-enabled sites (bugzilla, lists) in Opera on some systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17140 +comment (10brion) [18:43:23] 03(mod) The logging table needs a log_user_text field so that events from anonymous users can be logged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3732 +schema-change; +comment (10brion) [18:44:10] is this the place where I can play "stomp the developers"? [18:44:46] ow ow :D [18:44:47] sure [18:44:57] i hope you mean stump [18:47:34] 03(NEW) "Upload new version of this file" form should use plain text rather than readonly field for destination name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17707 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (brion) [18:47:47] 03(mod) Reuploading a file saves to source file name (regression) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17200 (10brion) [18:49:00] !b 10172 | brion [18:49:00] --mwbot-- brion: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10172 [18:49:12] brion: I wrote up a patch, could you take a look? ---^ [19:26:36] hi [19:27:27] i have a problem with namespaces. a extension added some namespaces. the question is, can i choose any (even) index for new namespaces or must it be the first after the last existing one? [19:27:49] Danwe: AFAIK, any even number >= 100 [19:28:18] yes, but the extension added some after 100, 102,104... Now [19:28:28] I could use 200 for example [19:28:47] but I don't know if it's allowed to leafe a hole in the array [19:29:33] I am also afraight of the extension would need some more namespaces in a newer version [19:33:32] There are certain extensions that may conflict. [19:33:51] Danwe: Yeah, holes are allowed [19:34:00] There's a big hole between 15 and 100 too [19:34:16] Right. But you shouldn't fill it. [19:34:24] ok, thats true [19:34:32] right now i try 130 [19:34:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Namespace_reservation [19:35:04] but the weird thing is, when I type in: "mynamespace:pagename" as article, it redirects me to the page "article:pagename" which already exists [19:36:49] 03catrope * r47871 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiFormatBase.php: API: Fix autolinker bug reported by DannyB on IRC: > was included in the URL [19:36:51] Danny_B: ---^ [19:38:50] also when the article page doesn't exist i cant reach the page "newnamespace:pagename" [19:42:21] Can I install Media Wiki on a Windows machine? [19:42:37] Sure [19:42:45] As long as it's got Apache, PHP and MySQL [19:48:24] RoanKattouw, you don't need Apache, you can use IIS. [19:48:30] Or whatever. [19:48:49] And other RDBMSes might work. [19:48:52] Yeah, you can use any web server [19:48:58] Emphasis on *might* [19:58:14] *buzz_ runs mediawiki on nginx [19:58:21] *Simetrical runs it on lighttpd. [19:58:34] Simetrical, quite similar in functionality [19:58:35] you don't need PHP either [19:58:41] you can use that thing that runs php code in a java servlet container [19:58:46] But since he's using Windows I thought I'd recommend the easiest option [19:58:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Require_use_of_NOINDEX_template_instead_of_directly_using_magic_word [19:59:02] Magic words need better tracking. :P [19:59:07] Simetrical, you use fastcgi backend for php or pass it through to something else ? [19:59:12] buzz_, fastcgi. [19:59:24] *flyingparchment runs MW on sun web server [19:59:25] *RoanKattouw nudges Marybelle to write a patch registering magic word usage in the page_props table [19:59:34] RoanKattouw, just use categories. [19:59:47] We already do that for some things, don't we? [19:59:59] Simetrical, the way to go i think. with apache and php and static data treated the same, it wasnt a great performer [20:00:08] RoanKattouw: If I knew PHP, I would've fixed this and many other things like it already myself. ;-) [20:00:12] heh [20:00:21] Simetrical: Excess ifexist usage. [20:00:41] But page_props is designed for this kind of thing. [20:01:11] i just had to write some code to convert fulltext searches for mysql so they "and" by default - hello world becomes +hello +world. . and all because mysql is sh*t and wont allow me to have a index or table or even database level config for that [20:01:22] GRRRR @ mysql again [20:01:40] actually, MW used to do AND by default [20:01:47] but for some reason that i now forget, it was changed [20:01:54] Marybelle, categories already have a good and familiar interface for accessing them. Don't reinvent the wheel. [20:02:11] buzz_, I saved something like 1GB of RAM when switching to lighttpd. It was crazy. [20:02:23] Simetrical: I didn't reinvent anything. Tim did. But if you're going to have an entire extra table, you may as well use it. [20:02:36] flyingparchment, if you OR but return results by relevance then matches with both would come first, but that doesnt apply to what i was doing. so it was an annoyance [20:02:58] Simetrical, i saved a fair amount. and now if you make 50 simultaneous php connections. my machine doesnt die instantly [20:03:04] Oh right, I remember that I opposed the introduction of page_props for hiddencats, especially since we already had the cat_hidden field [20:03:30] Yes. [20:04:21] buzz_, there are a couple of annoyances. There's one feature of my major app (vBulletin) that causes a 500 response -- remote upload of files or something. Still haven't figured that out. And if all FastCGI processes are busy, the site goes down, it doesn't adapt the number automatically to load. [20:04:28] Simetrical, i did a test on static data (some jpg). 2000 connections. 20 at a time. apache 9.8 seconds. nginx 2 seconds [20:04:29] But it's much better overall. [20:04:45] RoanKattouw: Page_props is far more versatile, though. [20:04:51] Simetrical, if my fastcgis are used up, the user gets queued [20:05:18] Marybelle: Yeah, but we don't have a proper UI for it (yet?) [20:05:22] Hmm, interesting. What I'd really like is how Apache's prefork model works. Set a starting value and it forks more/kills extras as needed. [20:05:30] True. [20:05:46] Though at the moment it's single-use still, no? [20:06:02] Marybelle, it's not more versatile if all you want to do is store boolean values. page_props is only really better than categories if a) you don't want the data to be accessed like a category, or b) you want to store actual info. [20:06:03] Only __HIDDENCAT__ is using it, as I recall. Nothing else. [20:06:04] Like displaytitle. [20:06:11] That should be in page_props. [20:06:58] I don't really care where you put it. categorylinks, templatelinks, whatever. But it needs to be trackable somewhere. :-) [20:08:29] Simetrical, i run 6 different fastcgi servers under different user accounts. does use a little more ram like that but i like having users separated etc [20:09:45] buzz_, I only have one site on my server, so not needed for me. [20:09:53] flyingparchment has some setup on the toolserver like that, I think. [20:10:16] that's different, it runs each process as the owner of the php files [20:12:08] 03(NEW) Warning on page deletition if page is linked to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17708 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (subfader) [20:12:27]