[00:00:08] but we're left with no choice, it just is [00:00:08] That logic is . . . faulty. [00:00:08] same for google [00:00:08] <^demon> chuck: Because I feel that my life is more interesting than what I'm eating or what movie I'm going to, 140 characters at a time. [00:00:29] it isn't logic, it is an analogy [00:00:49] Well, the analogy is terrible too. [00:01:03] you're a terrible analogy [00:01:12] at least you stripped your POP directional encoding ^_^ [00:01:14] Grr, no roan [00:01:38] 00:00 < ^demon> chuck: Because I feel that my life is more interesting than what I'm eating or what movie I'm going to, 140 characters at a time. [00:01:43] twitter is used for far more than that [00:01:44] photoshop wishes it gave people a verb [00:01:48] it's much like IRC, tbh [00:02:08] ‫What directional encoding? [00:02:33] ssen-sdrawkcab o: [00:02:35] There'd no chance of being able to get pagelinks for section using the api would there? (due to how the links are stored)? [00:02:42] *Splarka is immune to your unicode, ha [00:02:58] nope [00:03:05] to me? [00:03:23] yes [00:03:29] ta, thought so :) [00:03:30] <^demon> werdnum: The 140 chars at a time is what really irks me. Do we really have such a short attention span that we can only digest 140ish characters before losing interest? [00:03:33] you'd hav to guess, or run the section through the expandtemplates thing, or action=parse [00:04:09] Meh, its not major [00:04:44] werdnum: http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080423.jpg [00:04:48] might have a play later tho,, [00:04:54] Reedy: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&text=[[foo]][[wp:bar]][[wikt:baz]] [00:05:04] the action=parse works quite well, gives you the [00:05:15] 00:03 < ^demon> werdnum: The 140 chars at a time is what really irks me. Do we really have such a short attention span that we can only digest 140ish characters before losing interest? [00:05:25] ^demon: meh, IRC only handles 400 or something [00:05:40] 512 [00:05:50] but that includes PRIVMSG, nick, hostmask, control codes [00:05:54] <^demon> werdnum: But IRC is real-time. It's a chat, similar to AIM, etc. Twitter is like....chat with lags. [00:05:57] yes, including the control stuff. [00:05:57] <^demon> Why bother? [00:06:10] people with shorter nicks and hostmasks can say longer stuff [00:08:28] Splarka: of course, they did invent the enter key for this reason [00:08:38] Splarka, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia#Category_before_last_headline would be ok if it'd use the #// [00:08:41] *' [00:08:43] damned [00:09:21] Prodego: doesn't help when you wanna paste a bugzilla advanced search (short URLs suck) [00:09:30] (er, short URL-ers) [00:09:57] Reedy: get the section data first, then pass it to action=parse [00:10:06] 03(mod) Mark redlinks with rel="nofollow" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6545 +comment (10Andrew) [00:10:32] hmm, [00:10:47] bah *looks at the page* [00:11:35] hypothetically you could at some point use action=parse with labelled section transclusion to cheat [00:11:58] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&rvsection=21&titles=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia#Category_before_last_headline [00:12:04] so there is the content, in [00:12:31] er [00:12:43] heh, minus the # bit [00:13:27] can wikilink match from there... [00:13:32] Cool, cheers [00:13:34] 03(FIXED) Strange behavior with Commons image links on case-sensitive wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5269 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:13:48] well, you don't need to wikilink match, that is hit and miss [00:14:06] just take , URLencode it, and POST it to action=parse&text= [00:14:07] i mean for my purpose it would be [00:14:30] 03(mod) Support decimal math (bc extension) in #expr ParserFunction to avoid floating-point surprises - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17468 +comment (10Andrew) [00:16:12] etc (ick, speaking of long lines) [00:16:15] 14(DUP) Bullet formatting broken in Image Captions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17780 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:16:17] 03(mod) Wikitext in image captions displayed as plaintext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16768 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:17:20] huh, mwbot didn't even log that [00:17:20] 03(NEW) User Will Not stayed logged in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17790 04BLOCKER; normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (ron) [00:17:38] <^demon> Drop everything. BLOCKER [00:17:46] *^demon sounds some alarms [00:17:51] *Splarka burps [00:17:52] *Simetrical sets off the klaxons [00:18:10] *Simetrical marshals the storm troopers [00:18:20] close as WFM? :P [00:18:58] 03(mod) User Will Not stayed logged in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17790 04BLOCKER->major (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [00:19:00] <^demon> Hehe. [00:20:46] <^demon> Unless head is severely broken, it's almost never a blocker :p [00:21:16] *werdnum blocks ^demon [00:21:59] *^demon unblocks himself, because MW lets you do that :) [00:22:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&diff=275039884&oldid=275038239&diffonly=true [00:22:10] *^demon revokes werdnum's +sysop and +bcrat, then blocks him [00:22:26] *werdnum deletes ^demon's account. [00:22:34] <^demon> Checkmate. [00:23:03] 03dale * r48038 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (6 files in 3 dirs): cortado and iframe updates [00:23:54] <^demon> Splarka: hahaha [00:25:44] they removed it a few minutes later:( [00:28:12] <^demon> Hehe, the bug about logging in just now...it's mentioned in the FAQ of the Village Pump (technical) [00:28:16] <^demon> About HughesNet [00:29:02] <^demon> "If you find that you are automatically logged out...[blah blah blah]...This happens most often with some satellite ISPs (particularly HughesNet/DirecWay/DirecPC). [00:29:12] well, RonK coulda mentioned that when spamming about it in here all day [00:29:55] satellite internet sucks [00:30:11] ^^ [00:30:21] huge pings, unreliability, expensive, cookie eating, IP switching... [00:30:28] and here at least, there is a minimum 2 year contract [00:31:33] <^demon> I just siphon wifi from one of the university buildings next door. Seeing as my tuition already pays for my access :) [00:34:26] 03(mod) Support decimal math (bc extension) in #expr ParserFunction to avoid floating-point surprises - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17468 +comment (10brion) [00:37:12] <^demon> Splarka: To continue funny VP threads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Village_pump#Cheesepuff [00:39:56] they didn't even link to it [00:40:11] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17456 [00:40:14] mmm, people are being catty [00:40:17] <^demon> Well I mean, is [[Template:Cheesepuff]] hard to find? [00:40:18] miaow [00:41:37] 03(mod) Title::invalidateCache() does not commit database update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17451 +comment (10Andrew) [00:42:37] *Simetrical pets werdnum and feeds him a mouse, then sets him on fire. [00:42:59] bah, Happy-melon [00:42:59] Mm, burning fur. [00:43:32] *werdnum can haz wader? [00:43:55] nope [00:43:58] <^demon> werdnum: Why the useless VP? [00:45:11] 03(mod) Red links to templates should be in class "error" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15729 +comment (10Andrew) [00:45:13] ^demon: For a joke. [00:45:26] <^demon> Ah. [00:46:00] Yay, let's add 50,000,000 more classes! [00:46:05] We really need to stop with the class bloat. [00:46:18] We should have a standard for when we're allowed to add a new class. [00:46:34] <^demon> I vote no more classes on [00:47:20] I vote no more classes period without approval by a five-member review panel. [00:47:26] And getting heads on three consecutive coin flips. [00:49:11] 03(WONTFIX) FCKeditor extension (WYSIWYG): new hook needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13821 +comment (10Andrew) [00:50:28] [00:50:57] I forsee a marvelous day when the pageloads are nothing but classes and javascript globals, and all content is derived therefrom [00:51:14] <^demon> Splarka: You forgot the classes that translate each of those into the top 100 spoken languages. [00:51:26] I ran out of jokespace [00:51:57] <^demon> Simetrical: We could make people asking for new classes perform some absurd tasks. [00:52:08] <^demon> Like "fix bug 1, then we'll do it" [00:53:28] *Splarka is glad he got in class="mediawiki" on body before that [00:54:14] body.mediawiki ROCKS in userContent.css <3 [00:54:54] <^demon> TBH: I think 17790 (can't login) is a WFM. I dunno what we can really do there. [00:55:15] WFE (works for earthlings) [01:05:06] 03(mod) Improved Wikipedia favicon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15716 (10brion) [01:07:14] 03(mod) Improved Wikipedia favicon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15716 +comment (10charlie) [01:09:30] page-Main_Page should be id and not class because there is the one and only element as well as one as well as all pages have unique names [01:12:00] Danny_B: changing it now would break shit, duplicating it would be spammy [01:12:04] far better to leave it as it is [01:12:38] well i actually requested id but whoever was fixing the bug added class instead :-/ [01:12:41]

is pretty stupid, but at least you can getElementById on it [01:12:58] but body needs no id... document.body, or document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0] [01:13:07] 03(mod) Navigation headings should not be lower-cased in German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553 (10brion) [01:13:09] not for JS anyway, and CSS works just fine with classes [01:13:19] id is not only for js :-P [01:16:10] 03(mod) Remove {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} restrictions for wm2009wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17307 +comment (10brion) [01:20:21] The gallery of new files page located at Special:Newimages, is it possible to feed this to a webpage or something like that? Would like to get up a gallery of new images added to the wiki on a webpage. [01:23:05] 03(NEW) ProofreadPage broken for GIF images due to assuming it can always create thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17791 15enhancement; normal; MediaWiki extensions: ProofreadPage; (brion) [01:26:08] 03(mod) Alias of 'Wikipedia' namespace in Chinese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17701 (10brion) [01:26:14] Dr_DBW: you could just use an [23:51:06] what is MetavidWiki? [23:51:16] ask mdale [23:51:17] :) [23:51:18] ew, that first character was a ^U [23:51:33] chuck: check out metavid.org ;) [23:52:17] SilentPenguin: at a guess, the cause is "godaddy hosting", the symptom is "suckitude", the cure is "not godaddy hosting" [23:52:33] all I see is a bunch of closing tags and some JS [23:52:37] gah, i got as far as actually installing it :P [23:52:46] i have no monies! :P [23:52:47] ooh that's a pretty nice skin [23:53:58] if iv managed to make mediawiki work on freehosts worse than godaddy, it must be possible on godaddy :P [23:54:03] SilentPenguin: looking at the JS, it creates an '; [23:54:29] which of course, totally breaks for people with JS often disabled (like me) [23:56:09] Splarka i dont think i can, i dunno, this whole side of the internet is rather new to me [23:57:13] SilentPenguin: have you tried to install any ads or extenstions? [23:58:00] p858snake, fresh install on crappy godaddy freehosting with the domain, they apply a frame to it [23:58:54] 03purodha * r48072 10/trunk/extensions/Review/ (Review.i18n.php Review.php): [23:58:54] html markup moved from a message to the program. Thanks to EugeneZelenko [23:58:54] of translatewiki.net for the hint. [23:59:12] !wg BreakFrames | SilentPenguin [23:59:12] --mwbot-- SilentPenguin: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgBreakFrames [23:59:29] although that might break your policy with godaddy [23:59:58] might well do