[00:00:16] or even
[00:02:31] 	ende: you want the last one if you want all code escaped, but wrapping: 
[00:02:42] 	you can do that per-call (not via template), or site-wide with a global rule
[00:03:30] 	splarka: excellent, getting closer 
[00:03:58] 	the usual fix is to do style="overflow:auto;"
[00:04:06] 	then the pre gets a horizontal scrollbar
[00:04:07] 	splarka: what other options do I have besides 'normal for white-space?
[00:04:49] 	normal, pre, nowrap
[00:05:02] 	"pre" keeps whitespace and no wrapping
[00:05:10] 	"nowrap" ditches whitespace but keeps no wrapping
[00:05:16] 	"normal" is normal html
[00:05:27] 	there isn't one for "keep whitespace but wrap"
[00:05:38] 	not for CSS2 anyway:/
[00:05:55] 	see http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_reference.asp
[00:06:20] 	that is sad :(
[00:06:38] 	someone must be out to get me
[00:07:01] 	Splarka, you are the man. :)
[00:07:10] 	splarka: yes, you are
[00:07:16] 	Von: only for easy issues
[00:08:28] 	ende: it shouldn't be hard to write your own parser extension tag
[00:09:51] 	no?
[00:12:03] 	I don't know if you do any support here, but I have a few install questions here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk/Sections/Installation#Configuration.2FInstallation_Error
[00:13:05] 	ende: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Tag_extensions
[00:13:44] 	you'd just get whatever was stuck into that, output a 
, and every space you turn into  , and every line return into
[00:14:11] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Poem for something similar [00:14:37] you could probably modify that with a \s ->   [00:14:40] oop, heh, one note... [00:14:49] you'd not wanna replace all   or you wouldn't get any wrapping! [00:15:10] splarka: Oh I know where the man page is, it was just your confidence in my ability to write a parser tag that came into question ;) [00:15:41] probably you'd replace "\s\s" with "  " and "\s\s\s" with "   ", and any run of spaces more than 3 with space-allNBSP-space [00:15:46] haha [00:15:55] well, I donno php but even I could probably muddle through it [00:16:11] no support here? [00:16:32] lots of support, tiny bit of patience required [00:16:55] okay...I do have some patience ;) I'll use it now. [00:17:27] hmm, dunno much about installing, but why would a file not included in a package be called for in that package [00:18:51] Calebrw: convertLinks.inc should be in 1.6.12 [00:18:54] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_6_12/phase3/maintenance/ [00:19:14] where did you download it? [00:19:41] There was a link on the media wiki site [00:19:50] brion: wow, this code is getting ugly [00:19:56] I am using str_replace on regexes. [00:20:01] heh [00:20:03] ouch :D [00:20:03] Forgive me brion, for I have sinned [00:20:40] http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.6/mediawiki-1.6.12.tar.gz [00:21:57] wow people still use 1.6 [00:22:28] I only have php 4.4.9 on my server [00:22:38] convertLinks.inc 46958 4 weeks tstarling Tagging 1.6.12 [00:22:39] convertLinks.php 46958 4 weeks tstarling Tagging 1.6.12 [00:22:41] counter.php 46958 4 weeks tstarling Tagging 1.6.12 [00:22:43] database.sql 46958 4 weeks tstarling Tagging 1.6.12 [00:22:44] Those files are missing [00:22:48] *Splarka prods someone not on dialup to check if /maintenance/updaters.inc and /maintenance/convertLinks.inc exist in that tar [00:22:57] werdna, that's amazing [00:23:35] *brion looks [00:24:08] I redownloaded and will check. [00:24:09] yep i see em [00:24:29] well have a nice night (or day), all [00:24:58] In the redownload, the four files are there. I am going to reup to my website and see what happens. [00:25:13] anyone wanna assist me with some parserfunctions? [00:25:30] Viper550: state the issue? [00:25:54] many people have areas of speciality ^_^ [00:26:19] it usually works better to state the problem and ask for someone who knows the specific issue, than ask for a helper to follow you off into neverland [00:26:29] 03dale * r48248 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (7 files in 6 dirs): minor fixes for add media wiz [00:28:27] Okay, it seems to be working now. That was really weird. I wonder if was a problem with the download or WinRar. [00:28:29] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Idol_season trying to make the winner rows and the co-host not appear if you don't have anything in [00:30:01] mmm, conditional infoboxes [00:30:27] 03(mod) "Wiktionary" is a bad interwiki prefixe on ukwiktionary and mlwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17898 summary; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [00:34:42] Viper550: they fit the general format of: [00:34:43] 03(mod) "Wiktionary" is a bad interwiki prefix on ukwiktionary and mlwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17898 summary (10mikelifeguard) [00:35:01] {{#if:{{{parameter|}}}| stuff here }} [00:35:13] where stuff is wikitable code escaped with {{!}}, or html tables [00:35:24] there should be a billion infoboxes on wikipedia with examples [00:40:27] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_football_club_season&action=edit check out that example [00:43:15] Okay, new problem. [00:44:00] config/LocalSettings.php is not in the /config/ folder. It said it was created and the dir has been 777ed. [00:45:09] http://rafb.net/p/DwgxUo95.html for the text I got [00:46:15] Nevermind. It showed. Just took while. [00:54:41] Trying to install mediawiki 1.14.0, the configuration script seems to stop immediately after "PHP 5.2.9 installed", not outputting any further HTML. How would I go about debugging what the problem is? [00:56:41] Quick question. I accidently added a ` at the end of my username on my knew wiki... [00:56:48] is there any way to change that? [00:57:25] !renameuser [00:57:25] --mwbot-- Renameuser provides a special page which allows authorised users to rename user accounts. See < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser > for more details. [00:57:54] dunno if it'll work in 1.6 [01:08:02] 03werdna * r48249 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [01:08:02] * (bug 4582) Provide preference-based autoformatting of unlinked dates with the dateformat [01:08:02] parser function. [01:12:54] 03(mod) NomCom wiki listed in wrong section of SiteMatrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16077 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [01:12:54] \o/ [01:13:28] Simetrical: feel free to have a look over that rev. You're good at nitpicking my code (a compliment, not a complaint) [01:13:57] 03(FIXED) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582 +comment (10Andrew) [01:23:00] werdna: can you add a blurb to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Formatting about it? [01:23:08] werdna, bah, stylistic regex changes in the middle of an unrelated commit? ] never needs to be escaped in regex. [01:23:12] some new variables/parserfunctions go undocumented for yearrrrs [01:23:26] (If it's in a character class you can just make it the first character, and otherwise it's not special to begin with.) [01:24:56] . . . @ unset( $this->mLinked ); [01:25:01] Temporary member variables? [01:25:23] Simetrical: It's needed to cleanly str_replace( '\]\]' ) without interfering with character classes [01:25:32] yeah, if you have a better idea please send it my way :) [01:25:33] Ouch. [01:26:19] Why can't you just remove the \[\[ and ]] from the regex and do if ( $linked ) { $this->prxDM = "\[\[{$this->prxDM}]]"; ... } [01:26:36] because they're used in the constructor [01:26:41] :/ [01:27:02] I don't suppose we could just change this all to use strtotime()? :D [01:27:10] {{#formatdate:yesterday}} [01:27:21] Simetrical: I was going to, but it wants to know how much of the date is specified [01:27:30] Hmm, right. [01:27:32] Foiled. [01:27:46] [[March 2]] formats to either [[March 2]] or [[2 March]] [01:28:04] Not [[March 2, 2010]] or whatever. Yeah. [01:28:11] whereas [[ March 2 2009]] formats to either [[March 2]], [[2009]] or [[2 March]], [[2009]] [01:30:25] Sim: you could just use it in combination with #time right? [01:30:45] That's true. [01:30:51] output the day/month or just day, or just month, etc [01:30:59] I was more thinking simplicity of implementation than utility, though. [01:31:37] yeah, regexes + passing ugly match arrays suck [01:31:43] *Splarka ponders if Tim will say this should be moved to the ParserFunctions extension [01:31:45] Tim wrote it originally, but back in 2003 [01:34:34] *Splarka wonders how long until a bug is opened to allow custom strtotime-esque output of the autoformatted dates via a raw text choice in preferences [01:34:53] 03(mod) "Wiktionary" is a bad interwiki prefix on ukwiktionary and mlwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17898 +comment (10cbrown1023) [01:34:53] 03(FIXED) add class to dynamic dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17785 +comment (10Andrew) [01:35:18] that'd be date() [01:35:28] and it's certainly easily doable [01:36:32] 03(NEW) Allow custom strtotime-esque output of the autoformatted dates via a raw text choice in preferences - 11https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21718 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (Simetrical+wikibugs) [01:36:48] *werdna slaps Simetrical [01:36:50] sigh [01:36:51] you got me [01:36:53] but Karma [01:37:04] *Splarka giggles at werdna [01:37:28] oh, I thought you did actually open it [01:37:31] I opened the bug :P [01:38:14] I got the shade of green wrong for the URL. I always do. [01:38:19] *Splarka wonders if +c restricts voiced/opped [01:38:22] *Simetrical picked the first five digits of e [01:38:31] shows as Cyan in mirc [01:38:46] Green, blue, cyan, turquoise, whatever you call it. [01:38:48] mirc and the other guy who invented IRC colors couldn't agree [01:38:59] so they are inconsistent [01:39:04] hmm [01:39:23] 10 It should have been this I take it [01:39:35] Yeah, that looks right. [01:39:38] *werdna stabs people [01:39:46] mIRC allows easy copy/pasting o color codes [01:39:51] *Simetrical stabs animals [01:39:56] XChat doesn't. [01:40:00] but barring that, it is easy to go to the logs and grab the raw text and copy-paste that [01:40:06] I really dislike XChat in a bunch of ways, but am too lazy to switch. [01:40:15] xchat is open source right? [01:40:51] Yes. [01:40:59] Except on Windows. [01:41:17] bah [01:41:26] okay, +c blocks even +o from color, annoying [01:42:36] Man, you've got to love Slashdot mods. +3 Informative for "I use Quadruple-rot-13, far more effective IMHO." [01:42:38] would be a nice feature though, a +c that allowed +v/+o to do it [01:42:40] 03purodha * r48250 10/trunk/extensions/DeleteQueue/DeleteQueue.i18n.php: Removed unneccessary SITENAME reference. Removed link anchor "here", which was an absolute no-go. [01:42:48] heh [01:44:12] Vg hfrq gb or vyyrtny gb rkcbeg n ebg-13 rapelcgvba/qrpecgvba zrgubq birefrnf. [01:44:44] I think you used triple ROT13 by mistake. [01:44:53] I use single baby, I don't care! [01:46:56] you use single babies? [01:46:59] freaky [01:47:24] Well, better than using married babies. [01:48:13] reminds me of the most tasteless joke ever [01:48:58] "What is the best thing about dating ten year olds?" rot13 answer: "Gurer ner gra bs gurz!" [01:49:23] (what would the FBI do without /b/) [01:49:35] *werdna cbb to look up the answer [01:49:53] *werdna looks it up anyway [01:49:54] bahaha [01:50:33] hmm, how would a Rot-13 work for Unicode... most of the characters would return garbage or empty... [01:50:49] would each set increment half of the used length? [01:50:54] rot0xFFFFFFFFFFFF /. 2 [01:50:55] 03aaron * r48251 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/SpecialConfirmAccount.php: Make sure 'user' is restricted too [01:51:22] heh, or just a bit inversion [01:51:51] a bah on bit inversion [01:53:49] Bit inversion is not equivalent to ROT0x10000 or whatever. [01:54:10] (Unicode only goes up to 0x1FFFF, right? So there are 0x20000 code points?) [01:54:36] oh whatever :P [01:55:29] All because UTF-16 sucks. If it were only UTF-32 and UTF-8, we could go up to 0xFFFFFFFF and support Klingon, and the 372-character syllabary I made up yesterday in my head on the subway. [01:55:44] And . . . code points reserved for lolcats. [01:55:44] . . . [01:56:05] I posted a lol-celeb the other day [01:56:53] Oh, it goes up to 0x10FFFF, so there are 0x110000 code points and it would have to be ROT0x88000 or something. [01:57:22] lol-celeb? [01:57:45] tang->gnat [01:58:11] reverse it or rot13 it [01:58:28] *Splarka mind => array('blown') [01:59:05] Impressive. [01:59:39] Hmm, has anyone ever encountered this PHP error, from a 1.9.2 -> 1.14.0 upgrade? "Fatal error: Call to a member function matchStartToEnd() on a non-object in /vol0/local/mediawiki-1.14.0/includes/parser/Parser.php on line 2824" Googling for it, all I seem to be finding is wikis who used to have the error and google caching it, heh. [02:00:34] Sounds like you didn't properly copy the files, maybe? [02:04:31] Hmm, considering all I copied over was the images directory, LocalSettings (I'm also running on a fresh one created by the installed now) and AdminSettings, not sure what else there is? [02:04:43] ehrm, installer. [02:07:43] Huh.. Ok, nevermind. Had to restart memcached, interesting. [02:16:45] Well, thanks. :) [02:42:45] aarrgh!! mediawiki guides need to be looked at they are a mess [02:43:52] I just spent hours reading them in detail and installing mediawiki and now it tells me that I shouldn't have installed my wiki on /wiki/ (which it told me to do!) if I wanted a short URL [02:44:05] you can just move the file [02:44:13] what file [02:44:20] can I change the directory name? [02:44:25] without breaking anything [02:50:21] "Rename the uploaded folder to whatever you would like to have in the URL. If your web server is running as http://localhost for example, uploading MediaWiki to /testwiki/ directory would mean you would access your wiki at http://localhost/testwiki/index.php." ......... "Do not create this virtual directory and it should not exist in the web root folder!. This guide assumes that you have installed MediaWiki in /w/ folder relative to your [02:50:26] some guide! [02:53:10] help? [02:57:21] 03(mod) "Wiktionary" is a bad interwiki prefix on ukwiktionary and mlwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17898 (10mikelifeguard) [03:02:28] 03(mod) Abnormal URL or Bad Web-Crawler (Spider) , make to High CPU loading? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17779 (10playercd8) [03:05:18] 03(NEW) Special:UserRights doesn't show the updated log after changing rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17900 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (mikelifeguard) [03:06:29] Mike_lifeguard: bah :P [03:06:48] bwahahaha >:D [03:07:02] *Mike_lifeguard windances in werdna's FACE [03:09:22] BTW, do you like my ending? "Please make this work properly" :P [03:30:01] 03werdna * r48253 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php): * (bug 17900) Fixed User Groups interface log display after saving groups. [03:30:40] 03(FIXED) Special:UserRights doesn't show the updated log after changing rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17900 +comment (10Andrew) [03:30:53] Mike_lifeguard: ARE YOU HAPPY NAO [03:31:05] YEAIAM [03:31:12] {{lc:}} [03:31:35] file another bug plz [03:31:47] Nao add "prevent account creation" to globalblocking pliz. [03:31:53] 15273 [03:32:15] bah, schema changes [03:32:16] (&16252 while you're at it :DD) [03:32:33] werd: plz fix bugs 1-17900 [03:32:47] no, not bug 1 [03:32:54] can't ever be fixed [03:32:56] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED [03:32:59] please fix bug 1 twice [03:33:11] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=GlobalBlocking%20requests [03:33:13] fine, 2-17900 [03:33:35] 03(FIXED) block options not shown in Special:Log/gblblock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16252 +comment (10Andrew) [03:33:41] Mike_lifeguard: that bug was already fixed [03:33:49] sweet [03:34:03] how 'bout https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13780 "Admins don't see when page creations match against the blacklist " [03:34:07] sounds easy :) [03:35:56] eee [03:36:19] I have https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=Andrew%40epstone.net&emailtype1=exact&emailassigned_to1=1&emailreporter1=1 for agloblalblocking bugs [03:36:53] 03(ASSIGNED) Enable Abuse Filter on English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15684 +comment (10Andrew) [03:37:00] 03(mod) Use different system messages for local and global spam blacklist hits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12034 summary; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [03:39:12] Someone should mark 12963 as WONTFIX [03:40:10] 03(mod) Duplication of blacklisted links already in page text is possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14114 summary; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [03:44:52] 03(mod) It shouldn't be possible to send Wikimails containing weblinks on blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16466 (10mikelifeguard) [03:46:23] 03(mod) allow per-page exceptions to spam blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12963 +comment (10Andrew) [03:48:33] the patch on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5575 could use review [03:49:50] Mike_lifeguard: I already reviewed it [03:49:54] the patch is in a weird format [03:50:15] oh, well you didn't comment on the contents of the patch - just the weirdness [03:50:43] I can't see the contents of the patch because of the weirdness. [03:50:53] plus it's 3 years old [03:51:07] 03(mod) Visiting deleted edits gives Main page deletion tab. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17669 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [03:51:11] I think CheckUser has undergone at least one complete rewriting. [03:51:30] oh, I thought it was a recent patch [03:51:32] sawee [03:51:42] now to replicate 17833 [03:51:54] though I don't know how he wants me to prove that I'm right :\ [03:57:03] 03werdna * r48252 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: RELEASE-NOTES, forgot to save/ [03:57:19] 14(WFM) "Hide username from the block log, active block list and user list" removes users from CU results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17833 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [03:57:37] *werdna kicks CIA-60 [03:57:37] ow [04:02:20] mmm, werd: something like ^ that for wikibugs might be useful for debugging whether it is operational (and not getting emails) or zombified [04:02:22] and also fun [04:02:58] *Ladonna kicks Splarka. [04:03:33] "/me puts wikibugs in a gingham dress" -> "* wikibugs looks pretty" [04:08:07] http://www.just-whatever.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/this-doesnt-happen.jpg aww [04:22:25] 03(mod) It shouldn't be possible to send Wikimails containing weblinks on blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16466 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [04:33:56] 03(NEW) Consider adding &dontcountme=s to the importScript() URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17901 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (Wiki.Melancholie) [04:36:01] Wut? [04:36:40] *Ladonna lets Spl close that one. [04:37:46] why not add it? [04:38:05] *Splarka is not sure why it is deprecated, just that it has been [04:38:17] maybe rawpage automatically excludes raw counts [04:38:25] *Splarka doesn't care [04:50:50] maybe nobdy cares because we don't use counts on enwiki [04:51:30] 03(mod) Consider adding &dontcountme=s to the importScript() URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17901 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [04:52:18] Mike_lifeguard: it is depreciated for (all?) the WMF sites [04:52:26] werdna: yes? [04:52:30] dunno :) [04:52:35] *Mike_lifeguard knows nothing [04:52:45] & is definitely not needed [04:52:48] it had to do with apge view counting [04:52:57] and that you didn't want scripts counted [04:53:06] but they don't use whatever software needed that anymore [04:54:22] Prodego: depreciation is a loss in value over time [04:54:28] maybe you mean deprecatiojn [04:54:39] yes, yes I did mean deprecatiojn [04:54:55] hubrispwn [04:59:14] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=35103 [05:00:15] someone should request global 'editinterface' and remove every trace of that [05:00:32] and maybe document.write('