[00:00:15] that method is a combination of site-wide JS/CSS and Templates (no extension or core) [00:03:14] sweet! I'll look into that. thanks a bunch! [00:07:58] How can I limit the file upload size for files wich can be uploaded via Special:Upload? [00:09:15] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads#Set_maximum_size_for_file_uploads [00:10:24] Thanks! [00:12:54] 03(mod) Add rd_interwiki colum to redirect table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14418 +comment (10tstarling) [00:14:41] 03(FIXED) Install Extension:AbuseFilter on Arabic Wikipedia (ar.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17902 +comment (10Andrew) [00:14:54] \o/ [00:18:15] 03(mod) establish tests to catch non-Traditional Chinese mainstream characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17794 (10jidanni) [00:22:25] [00:22:29] Surely that should be [00:22:34] [00:24:48] now when does the enwiki abuse filter bug get fixed? :P [00:27:03] FunPika: soon I promise [00:27:22] brion and I just need to make sure it performs okay. I've added some profiling to it [00:27:44] so we'll take a look at the profiles and see if it can be leaned out any more. [00:27:47] it's something we can progressively enable/disable features on if nec, so it makes me warm and fuzzy :D [00:28:12] brion: what do you mean? [00:28:20] werdna: the permissinos on the actions [00:28:25] ... [00:28:25] oh, like the reverting and examining interfaces? [00:28:27] mmm [00:28:30] PERMESSINO IS AN AWESOME WORD [00:28:36] haha [00:28:46] yups [00:29:31] FunPika: anyway, I'm hoping that if it seems to perform okay we can think about a rollout in the next week. [00:29:36] Hopefully. [00:29:40] 03(NEW) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17917 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (sam) [00:29:42] brion might disagree :) [00:29:45] so, how about code review? [00:29:58] 03tstarling * r48297 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/archives/patch-log_user_text.sql: Extend log_type/log_action from 10 to 32 instead of 15. [00:30:15] 03(mod) Missing eititle gives error message that isnt worded correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17917 summary (10sam) [00:30:23] TimStarling: bold :) [00:30:33] TimStarling: sweet! [00:30:43] werdna: i'm pretty cool with that [00:30:59] brion: cool with code review this week? [00:31:01] AaronSchulz: :) doin' th ebest we can, it's crazy busy [00:32:15] "permissino" sounds like it should be Italian. [00:32:32] 32 is long enough for most things [00:32:50] 15 is almost as silly and arbitrary as brion's original 10 [00:32:56] it's a limit for the 80s [00:34:44] All usergroups can fit in 8.3 characters! [00:35:10] TimStarling: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-March/035126.html [00:35:34] no one will ever need more than 1 million rows [00:36:20] you mean ES? [00:37:26] :D [00:38:04] avar: I'm convinced [00:38:23] TimStarling: by which part?:) [00:38:43] "Anyway, there's a MediaWiki developer meetup in Berlin next month and the devs that would need to be convinced of this will be there." [00:39:10] mind you, I'm not actually offerring to write code, as usual [00:39:16] oh, sure:) [00:40:05] I've always been on board in principle [00:41:05] It would be interesting to get a copy of the Planet going on Wikimedia and get rendering going there [00:41:25] That's pretty much a precursor to everything else as far as Real Deployment of OSM(TM) goes [00:43:03] we can probably give you shell access to a dedicated server for it [00:43:25] brion: so tomaszf and I were talking last night... I was thinking it might be nice to have a "debug" mode of MediaWiki, where exceptions are thrown with every irregularity, and a "production" mode where it tries to continue wherever possible [00:43:51] That sounds like an excellent idea. [00:44:03] Are we talking inline map display, geotagging, or both? [00:44:07] Well, maybe that's what E_USER_NOTICE is for? [00:44:25] hmm [00:44:30] We should all have error_reporting set to top notch, right? [00:44:31] werdna: mebbe [00:44:40] what sort of irregularity? [00:44:43] I tried using that for something, but Tim or someone reverted me because it was apparently too noisy when outdated extensions called it. [00:44:49] I'd like to have inline map display [00:44:52] That will probably have to be taken into account. [00:45:14] I think it makes a lot of sense to have such things in Wikipedia [00:45:28] there was some talk of something w/ OSM involving jens and/or river and/or toolserver and/or wikimedia... i'm not sure what the state of that is :) [00:45:32] but anything would be better a collection of toolserver scripts [00:45:34] but i recommend checking to ensure there's no dupe effort [00:45:48] brion: At first inline map display, but in the future it would be nice to have the geostuff currently expressed as {{coord}} in a table somewhere so you could do real queries on it [00:45:53] Yeah, the JS-on-toolserver mapping solution is kind of awful. [00:46:00] You know, it came up in a CSS WG meeting. [00:46:04] brion: Well, all of the places where there's a comment like // This should never happen and an attempt to return something sane [00:46:08] avar: totally. i want that queriable through API search and in Special:Search :D [00:46:14] One of them used it as an example of how people are doing things with JS that they shouldn't be. [00:46:50] *Simetrical elected not to explain to www-style the complex socio-political issues resulting in geo-related stuff being done in JS [00:46:57] There's already stuff harwesting the {{coord}} templates, once you have that in a postgis DB it's really easy to say "gimme all articles within 10 kilometers" and add that to a map with openlayers [00:47:20] MySQL can do that too, I think, if you use MyISAM. [00:47:21] 03(FIXED) Does not protect page from editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17843 +comment (10techman224) [00:47:25] *werdna shrugs -- "From the half-bakery department" [00:47:30] R-trees or whatever. [00:47:42] werdna, do they have half-ovens and half-cakes in the half-bakery? [00:48:39] mysql's gis is pretty shit though [00:48:47] it's rectangular, not spherical [00:49:01] *Simetrical can tell from svn log when he started using git, his commit messages aren't broken at 72 chars [00:49:05] Yeah, PostGIS is where it's at:) [00:49:06] Seriously? That's ridiculous. [00:49:09] might be nice to support multiple backends tho :D [00:49:13] . . . Like most of MySQL. [00:49:22] *Simetrical hopes domas isn't around [00:49:32] "It's your fault for wanting features!" [00:49:44] haha [00:51:33] ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'dewiki_p.tag_summary' doesn't exist [00:51:50] I still can't test Tim's query on the toolserver with MySQL 5, because nobody's created the proper views for the new tables yet. [00:52:11] *sniff* [00:55:35] 03(RESOLVED) Inconsistent indices on pagelinks, imagelinks, templatelinks tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16645 +comment (10tstarling) [00:57:11] 03(NEW) Special:AbuseFilter/test needs to specify format for entering the timeframe - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17918 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard) [00:58:02] several people have told me that so many links in a page, like a wikipedia page, is "confusing." i disagree and i wan to show them some sort of research or reason why wp/mw decided to do this. any suggestions? [00:58:58] "Wikipedia is one of the largest websites in the world" isn't a good enough case study for them? [00:59:14] no [00:59:23] nor is the thousands of people who have contributed to the code [00:59:45] nor is the millions of (non-computer literate) people world wide who use it [00:59:58] 03(mod) Special:AbuseFilter/test needs to specify format for entering the timeframe - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17918 (10Andrew) [01:00:06] nor the $(any body know this number) spend per year by wikipedia [01:00:16] that number might help tho, as they are number people... [01:00:23] anyway. g2g, ill read back when i get home [01:00:44] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Overlinking [01:02:48] 03(NEW) Filter changes should be sent to Special:RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17919 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard) [01:03:59] 03(mod) Special:AbuseFilter/test needs to specify format for entering the timeframe - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17918 (10mikelifeguard) [01:04:10] *Mike_lifeguard battles the werndamonster [01:06:21] *techman224 is looking in Abuse Filter's source code [01:07:09] *Mike_lifeguard is looking at AbuseFilter's error screens [01:07:11] :O [01:07:32] :P [01:08:09] Splarka, can Uncyclopedia do any humor that's not self-referential? [01:08:10] OK, at the very least /test needs to impose reasonable limits on itself [01:08:13] Okay, AAAAAA. [01:08:27] Simetrical: it was intended as a parody of Wikipedia [01:08:36] *techman224 thinks that Abuse Filter should move to the Special Pages category of Special:Version [01:08:39] which makes the whole concept pretty self-referential in practice [01:09:49] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Infinite_recursion [01:10:04] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Redundancy [01:10:24] [[Page with no links]] is pretty good. I like the use of style="cursor: pointer;". [01:10:56] I mighta done that, check the history [01:11:10] I would be totally unsurprised. [01:11:28] http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Uncyclopedia:Proper%20Wiki%20Formatting [01:11:32] 03(NEW) Special:AbuseFilter/test needs to self-impose reasonable constraints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17920 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard) [01:11:51] 03(mod) Special:AbuseFilter/test needs to self-impose reasonable constraints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17920 15enhancement->normal (10mikelifeguard) [01:11:58] Nope. [01:12:10] Mike_lifeguard: I think it should offer a var dump of the last X edits for download [01:12:16] and people can run filters off-site. [01:12:32] what is a "var dump" ? [01:12:45] 3(NEW) Enotif configuration for Special:AbuseFilter to send me a twitter on every filter match or log modification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17921 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard) [01:13:01] Mike_lifeguard: a dump of the var(iable)s [01:13:25] of course the fun thing is that variable generation is the performance-intensive part.  of it [01:13:26] hey that's not a bad idea [01:13:42] a usual filter takes no more than 5 or 10 ms [01:13:55] but var generation can run into seconds because of all the parsing that needs to be done [01:14:23] that's why your test ran out of time -- because it used new_html, which is fine per-edit because the parse happens anyway [01:14:35] I know [01:14:38] but in a testing interface it has to do an extra parse per edit to test against [01:14:40] it just shouldn't time out [01:15:13] Is there a way to test against *this edit right here, the one identified by this oldid*? [01:15:59] go to /examine [01:16:04] search for an edit [01:16:12] (enter username, timestamp, whatever) [01:16:20] searching by oldid might be a clever idea [01:16:47] ah, right [01:18:20] netsplit [01:18:45] Always happens [01:19:11] netsplit after-effects [01:20:00] "I didn't quit it was the netsplit" quitters sneeking out [01:20:55] 03(NEW) Change so that Abuse Filter falls under the "Special Pages" category of Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17921 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (techman224) [01:21:05] 03(NEW) Mechanism for offline testing of filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17922 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (Andrew) [01:21:19] 03(NEW) AbuseFilter pages don't link together well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17923 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard) [01:21:20] it's abuse filter bug day :< [01:21:52] *werdna curses Mike_lifeguard some more [01:22:03] *mark shall not dream about abuse filters [01:22:05] heheheh >:D [01:22:06] good night [01:22:18] bah, i wanted mark for something [01:22:19] ah well [01:22:23] gnight [01:23:00] in soviet russia, mark spots the X [01:24:46] 17923 is kinda important for usability [01:25:10] it's all linked to on the jumpoff page [01:25:38] in a hideous mess, and things aren't linked /together/ [01:27:44] Well, now oversighters can hide users locally now [01:28:07] 03(NEW) Format Special:AbuseFilter/examine like Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17924 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard) [01:29:09] 03(mod) Format Special:AbuseFilter/examine like Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17924 (10mikelifeguard) [01:29:21] techman224: yes....? [01:30:52] 03(NEW) mention version at the top of api.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17925 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (jidanni) [01:32:52] Hi. [01:33:26] bah, version is easy in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=jsonfm [01:33:33] get the rev, generator [01:34:06] Is there a way to export all the pages stored on a wiki ? ie in a folder containing pdf (pages) on an usb key ? [01:34:28] hadopi, you can do a database dump [01:34:59] oh, there's no way to turn them into pdf's as far as I know [01:36:44] techman224: yes, but I'm not sure I'll be able to make a wiki run on a usb key. We need to have them in our hand and it's supposed to run as is on every computer (if feasible of course) [01:37:30] hadopi, it has to be running on a webserver with php and apache and mysql [01:38:01] So I'm saying that it's not possible, unless you boot up from the usb stick [01:38:18] I've someone else working on a bootable usb key with lighttpd on it. But I'm not confident. I'm afraid the deamon doesn't start or something. If this happens, the MP will just screw everything up and leave. [01:39:30] Well, I know there are some nice extensions, like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Pdf_Export but I can't get it work on my wiki. [01:39:59] And even if it works, I'm not sure it will be easy to export all pages. [01:40:29] Ok, i'll try http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PdfBook in the meanwhile [01:42:50] Oh great I can't download it... :| [01:42:59] No such extension "PdfBook" Select which extension you want to download: [01:43:29] WMF is trying out the collections extension [01:43:47] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection [01:44:11] exports a list of pages into a PDF "book" [01:44:28] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Book [01:44:44] hola :-) [01:44:57] is there a way to deactivate the Talk page functionality? [01:45:13] 04(REOPENED) Special:Export should mention one can also export via the api for much more flexible page choice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17871 normal->lowest; summary; +comment (10jidanni) [01:45:42] barra_away: it is pretty implicit in the code, but you can disable it [01:45:49] well, hide it, anyway [01:45:57] yep, that would be good [01:46:00] 03(mod) Special:Export should mention one can also export via the api for much more flexible page choice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17871 (10jidanni) [01:46:09] but I guess I would have to deactivate it for all pages? [01:46:18] because I would like to keep it for user talk pages [01:46:28] no, you can customize [01:46:32] Splarka: thank you I'm having a look at this. [01:46:33] hmm great [01:46:34] disable edits to odd (talk) namespaces except 3 via http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceProtection [01:46:46] like 1,5,7,9 etc [01:46:54] then hide the talk buttons in those namespaces... [01:47:33] body.ns-0 #ca-talk, body.ns-4 #ca-talk, body.ns-6 #ca-talk, body.ns-8 #ca-talk {display:none;} [01:47:40] well, hide the [talk] link in the subject spaces [01:48:25] people could still find them, or link to them via [[Talk:Foo]], but not edit them, or see the "talk" link on the top of every page [01:49:47] hmm: $wgNamespaceProtection[NS_MEDIAWIKI] = array( 'editinterface' ); [01:50:17] surely sounds like a noob question, but where do I specify which namespaces are protected? [01:51:01] $wgNamespaceProtection[NS_WHATEVER] = array( 'restriction' ); [01:51:15] ahh [01:51:41] 03werdna * r48298 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: Message that has been missing for god knows how long. [01:52:00] so e.g. $wgNamespaceProtection[NS_TALK] = array( 'editinterface' ); ? [01:52:31] right [01:55:42] Arg, I now have for Collection. [01:58:21] *hadopi checks the code [02:00:09] about body.ns-0 #ca-talk, body.ns-4 #ca-talk, body.ns-6 #ca-talk, body.ns-8 #ca-talk {display:none;} Splarka [02:00:31] MediaWiki:Monobook.css (if your skin is monobook) [02:00:51] each namespace has a set of classes on the tag, so you can restrict styles to certain namespaces via the .ns-# class [02:00:54] does it mean you won't see link to talk page if you're just viewing an article that resides in this namespace? [02:01:02] right [02:01:09] oki, let me try that :-) [02:01:16] on any page in NS_MAIN, body.ns-0 #ca-talk will refer to the [talk] link in the top bar [02:01:36] great, that's what I was looking for [02:01:38] note you might wanna go up to 14, skipping 2 of course [02:08:11] worked fine Splarka, thanks for the help [02:09:44] np [02:14:07] 03(NEW) False spaces before and behind inline-geshi-tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17926 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SyntaxHighlight (GeSHi); (benni.buch) [02:15:21] Hm, still not working, I guess it's because i do not have wm-pdf (although I have lots of mw-* in /usr/bin). [02:17:06] Splarka: i'm not sure about http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection. "(see Extension:PDF_Writer)" <= does that means I have to install this other extension to export as Pdf or is it just a suggestion for another extension ? [02:20:12] *Splarka looks [02:20:40] what version of mw do you have? [02:20:59] 1.12 [02:21:13] Extension:PDF_Writer doesn't look like a dependency... [02:21:53] ok thank you, that's what I guessed [02:22:13] http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php [02:22:16] if( $wmgUseCollection ) { [02:22:23] that's WMF's configuration for it [02:22:41] include "$IP/extensions/Collection/Collection.php"; and then a collection server and some other settings [02:23:20] ahh [02:23:26] so maybe you do need it, as a server [02:23:29] doh [02:23:30] 03(NEW) Mention how to debug, not just the variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: Documentation; (jidanni) [02:23:45] is it normal that mediawiki on p3 600mhz linux renders Main Page in 2 seconds? can it render faster? [02:23:59] 01.7187 seconds [02:25:16] empty main page [02:26:12] that sounds kinda slow yea [02:26:17] Hm, ok I can try to script mw-render. I'll give up for Collection now. Thank you very much for you help Splarka. [02:27:46] Btw, I'm pretty sure I saw you before on this channel, being the most active. Looks like you're always helping someone. Do you ever sleep ? [02:27:47] and somewhat related, anybody remember the magical argument to give to index.php to tell to to profile the page [02:28:07] *hadopi is both grateful and impressed [02:33:25] sleep is for the bored [02:34:03] OverlordQ: to display it in a comment is a hack on WMF, you have to enable profiling on your own install [02:34:12] &forceprofile=true and &forcetrace=true on WMF [02:34:31] works on any request [02:34:52] Splarka: yea that's what I was wondering [02:35:12] well, except to the image servers, heh [02:35:39] and won't work on a squid error, hmm, but most anything else [02:36:01] Is there a way to display more than 200 pages in a Category display page ? [02:36:13] not really, that is hard-coded:/ [02:36:18] I tried &limit=500 and failed [02:36:20] Arg [02:36:22] thanks [02:50:15] does any one know how to import from another wiki put I don't want to overwrite the preexistence articles. [02:51:39] for example both wikis have articles about cats. I want it not to change in my main one [02:54:51] rar [02:55:49] ? [02:56:07] is there a place i can go to see how much has been donated/spend to/by the wikipedia foundation? [02:57:05] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_finances [02:59:09] ty =] [02:59:57] eAccelerator improved empty main page rendering time from 01.7187 seconds to 00.7031250 seconds on p3 600. [03:33:42] Mike_lifeguard: around? [03:33:55] yep [03:34:19] Abuse Filter navigation ( Home | Recent filter changes | Batch testing | Examine past edits | Abuse Log | Debugging tools ) [03:34:32] at the top of every page related to the abuse filter [03:34:48] each is a link, of course, except if the link is a no-op, in which case it's bold [03:34:55] centered with CSS, in a div with a class [03:35:00] what you're after? [03:35:25] well, if the link would go to the page we're currently on it should be removed [03:35:45] I imagine Special:Contributions et al use a function for that so you don't need to duplicate work [03:35:51] I think bolding and not linking makes it feel nicer, more like tabs. [03:36:06] Well, then the same thing should be done elsewhere [03:36:11] I had it removed but I thought bolding was nicer [03:36:23] I actually think that's probably nice, so it should get changed elsewhere [03:36:51] open another bug not assigned to me for that :P [03:37:28] aww, fine [03:37:39] I'll wait till this is implemented [03:38:14] do you have a local install? [03:41:22] hmm, 'new filter' looks lonely by itself up there [03:41:30] suggestions for where to put it? [03:41:45] [+] [03:42:48] too small [03:43:40] http://imagebin.ca/view/GlU8cIh.html [03:43:49] what should I do about that link? [03:44:16] Mike_lifeguard: peek plz [03:44:32] getting new code... [03:44:32] you could make it a p-caction tab, I meant [03:45:13] oh [03:45:19] Mike_lifeguard: in the imagebin... [03:45:29] (hmm, would break on crap skins though) [03:45:29] isn't obvious [03:45:53] could add it to the nav bar maybe [03:46:04] in the bar, yep [03:46:09] but please don't center it [03:46:30] not that nav bar [03:46:33] the one for the pager [03:46:44] center what? [03:47:11] Abuse filter navigation ( | | ) is centred [03:47:29] why is that bad? [03:47:38] because it doesn't match anything else [03:47:53] hmm [03:48:02] I was also going to suggest not bolding the "Abuse filter navigation" part - instead grey it out like on Special:Contributions [03:48:16] and "new filter" can get added in there somewhere [03:48:40] As well, I doubt you need to explain that this is for navigating within abuse filter pages -- they will already know [03:48:52] since we use the same thing elsewhere without such explanation [03:49:24] hmm, ListFiles doesn't have an upload link, IpBlockList doesn't link to Special:BlockIp [03:49:53] (except to unblock of course) [03:50:21] don't tempt me to go on a binge of adding similar things [03:50:28] heh [03:50:57] maybe that area should just be the with a short explanation and incidental link to AbuseFilter/new [03:51:15] actually that would be really awesome. [03:51:27] (adding similar nav bars in other areas) [03:51:56] we can have one for blocking, at least [03:52:32] maybe you should set up Ipblocklist to have nice tablepager view [03:52:50] :P [03:53:21] sortable by name, duration, blocker, blockdate, .... [03:53:41] ipblocklist is full of crap though [03:53:52] might inspire people to clean it up [03:54:22] go through and unblock the infinitely banned accounts, and have a 'crat change the passwords [03:54:35] no no I mean the code [03:54:49] nobody cares about code, make it look nice! [03:54:56] for the UI that is [03:55:17] I mean it's hard, not that it's undesirable [03:55:23] gotta clear out these abusefilter bugs first [03:55:35] ban mike from bugzilla, it'll be a lot easier [03:55:43] within the code of a skin, how can i tell if the displayed page is a pag ethat does not exist? [03:56:31] besides checking for the existence of certain phrases in the text. looking for a function or variable or something [03:56:40] $wgOut->isArticle() ? [03:57:11] or... [03:57:14] is it that simple? =/ [03:57:52] $wgTitle->getArticleId() maybe, or isset( $wgArticle ) ? $wgArticle->getLatest() : 0 [03:58:00] *Splarka just looking at what generates the js globals, teehee [04:00:41] Splarka: for shame! [04:02:07] which? I do a lot of shameful things [04:02:15] but most people leave me saying "thanks" [04:02:19] oooh, sir, you want happy ending? [04:02:28] banning me from bugzilla tsk tsk [04:02:45] oh, yah, that was Category:Joke [04:02:59] A likely story if I ever heard one! [04:03:02] *Mike_lifeguard says "PAH!" [04:03:10] *Mike_lifeguard glares continuously :P [04:05:30] mike, seriously though, you opened 6 new bugs in a row.... all against Werdna [04:05:51] heh, reminds me of the opening scene of Red Dwarf [04:06:22] Hi there... I was hoping someone could answer one of my question. I can't get google to point me in the right direction. It seems my attribute in the DIV is getting removed by the sanitizer... I want to add in wikitext the following ...
[04:06:44] but the sgf='' get stripped of, anyone know a solution ? [04:06:56] It's not like they said "Werdna is a horrible person" Priority: Highest [04:08:32] TODHUNTER: Indeed. Now, Rimmer, I'm just going through MacIntyre's artifacts, and I see that you've filed 247 complaints ... against Lister. RIMMER: (Looking proud of himself) Yes, sir! TODHUNTER: That's 123 counts of insulting a superior technician, 39 counts of dereliction of duty, 84 counts of general insubordination, and one count of mutiny. [04:08:52] ahh, it's been a long time [04:09:15] somekool: generally if you want arbitrary control of html, it is best to make an extension, possibly an extension tag [04:09:58] there is no "whitelist" in which I could allow sgf='' to be an allowed attribute of div ? [04:09:59] (what the heck is the sgf attribute anyway?) [04:10:13] you could hack Sanitizer.php maybe, but core hacks make upgrade harder [04:11:01] static function setupAttributeWhitelist() in the sanitizer [04:11:07] Splarka: its custom, I need it. that's it [04:11:13] thanks [04:11:38] but probably better to use a http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Tag_extensions [04:11:55] that would emit the
generated as you need, bypassing the sanitizer [04:12:56] has anyone here managed to get the graphical Category Brower extension working with the latest mediawiki? The special pgae works, but the categories themselves are blank. [04:13:23] hmm, I see,... thanks for the cue ... [04:13:45] I don't mind [04:13:51] I get stuff to do [04:14:39] good evening [04:15:07] hi [04:15:19] HI WERDNA!!! [04:15:38] I just upgraded to 1.14 and I would liek to start using some extensions, however I don't know which ones to use. I would like to be able to use the tag and also some of the cool formatting options available in wikipedia [04:16:18] hey [04:16:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version lists the extensions on wikipedia [04:16:24] egeste, best idea would be to go to the special:version page on wikipedia and find the extensions they use [04:16:34] Bat, beat me to it [04:16:37] however much of the"cool formatting" is not extensions,but rather templates [04:16:37] look for "Geshi" and "ParserFunctions" [04:16:39] bah* [04:16:47] @porter: and i even gave a *real* link [04:16:55] :0 [04:17:00] *Splarka grins [04:17:07] WIKIMEDIA NERD FIGHT [04:17:10] thank you both [04:17:14] werdna: it is fun inspiring people to race over trying to help people first [04:17:32] @egeste: i install parserfunctions by default on every wiki i set up [04:17:41] whack-a-mole with help-seekers [04:17:43] thank you [04:17:46] ill read up on it [04:17:56] then i get the infobox template off of wikipedia and get the required css to support it [04:17:56] I'm still disappointed this category visualization extension doesn't work... [04:18:03] And it is very poorly doc'd [04:18:14] @porter1: so make a new one? [04:18:18] my boss just dropped this thing in my lap and said "copy the wiki database from server x, install it on server y, update it and make ti look cool... By tomorrow" [04:18:24] Heh, I am tempted. [04:18:37] the copy part is easy enough [04:18:58] ive been doing the whole thing over ssh on a mac [04:19:04] remote machine is a mac [04:19:14] it's been a bit of a challenge for me [04:19:17] but everything is up [04:19:19] i do it all via ssh as well =]. i wrote quick "backup" scripts tho [04:19:33] lol [04:19:35] im new to wikimedia [04:19:48] so i dont have all that yet [04:19:54] !backup } slithytove2006 [04:19:54] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [04:20:03] if werdna behaves, then you came to the right place [04:20:25] yes werdna. youve done that tome like 5 times now =P [04:20:48] !moveforward [04:20:48] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "moveforward". [04:21:03] yah, that sums you up just perfectly [04:21:25] slithytove2006: sorry, misaimed [04:21:42] (mwbot I mean, bah, nm) [04:22:04] @werdna: on my server, i cant call php as simple as that. my host has several versions of php and 4 is still the default =/... so i have to call the full path of php5 to use most of the maintenance stuff, so i made a bashscript so i dont have to remember it [04:22:13] o----o [04:22:36] and i made one that svn updates, then runs the maintenance update, then updates my extensions and runs their updates too =] [04:22:43] <3 werdna [04:24:07] @egeste: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi is the syntax highlighter [04:24:38] Splarka: before getting into writing a full extension, which I am not sure would be a smart time-investment... I am simply trying to modify the Sanitizer.php, it really seemed straight forward to modify that function you mentionned. I simply added sgf in the attributes list. http://wiki.pastebin.com/m68d8a163 but it does not work. any idea ? [04:25:38] mmm, I think it should be in the $common, but I am not sure [04:25:48] thank you, slithy [04:25:54] im downloading it from the svn as we speak [04:25:56] $block should work [04:26:11] but maybe if you want it in div... bah [04:26:27] dah... it works [04:26:48] div => $block [04:26:51] will they only ever be on divs? [04:26:56] yep [04:27:30] you might array_merge the 'div' definition then [04:28:02] *Splarka hates php [04:28:58] me too ;) [04:29:12] but if it works. I'm happy for now ... http://goquebec.org/wiki/index.php?title=ExempleSGFOnlineViewer [04:29:34] now, if only the JS would take http argument, I would not need to let people upload those damn sgf files [04:30:15] which JS? [04:30:31] or, JS in general, cross-domain restrictions? [04:30:46] the one that reads this argument .... (eidogo) did you check the result ? [04:32:02] I just viewed the source and saw sgl="" in the div, heh [04:32:33] ew, compressed [04:32:38] i dont know if this a JS in general limitation, or I could hack the code .... [04:33:05] this is pretty crazy JS to get into [04:34:17] sgf just means standard game format, you can store any type of board game in it. such as chess. but it is mostly use of Go [04:34:21] as far as i know [04:34:37] if i were to create a custom skin, and say "class SkinFooBar extends SkinMonoBook {}" and "class FooBarTemplate extends MonoBookTemplate", would that look just like monobook? [04:35:19] i think i would need to overwrite the function initPage(...) and make sure i had the same css files in the proper folder, then it would, yes? [04:35:26] hmm [04:35:28] _c=el.getAttribute("sgf"); [04:36:12] cfg.sgfUrl=this.sgfPath+this.gameName+".sgf"; [04:36:48] looks possible but dunno if it would actually work [04:36:56] also that compacted JS makes me cry [04:38:27] just look at the non compressed one [04:38:28] http://goquebec.org/wiki/extensions/eidogo/player/js/ [04:39:02] i am in player.js / remoteLoad: function [04:39:22] it should be already supported... [04:41:03] really seems like it does not .... arghh [04:43:25] i guess it is a single domain limitation [04:44:12] well, you could have them on the same domain but not in the upload system, maybe [04:44:19] though that is a convenient way to keep track of them [04:45:31] is mediawiki already have an upload system ? [04:46:09] I wanted to let people who edits the content of the wiki be able to add a game simply by adding ...
[04:46:16] pop... one-liner ;) [04:47:06] and this sgf player is so sweet, I wish I wont need to change for a bulky one [04:47:07] well, copy the JS over, and edit it a bit [04:47:20] or redefine the functions locally maybe [04:47:26] should be possible, ask a JS guru [04:48:09] right [04:48:10] thanks [04:49:07] rar [04:49:25] http://rafb.net/p/kroTt678.html any clue why this doesnt work? [04:49:35] its not using the specified template, but using the monobook one [04:50:51] o wait. im an idiot [04:57:07] I think I like mediawiki [04:57:12] i like easy things [04:57:16] you think? [04:57:44] *Egeste vocal inflection hints at sarcasm [04:58:19] well [04:58:21] not sarcasm [04:58:29] more like omg, this is easy why am I here [05:00:49] im actually more having trouble figuring out which extensions do what [05:01:43] omg i feel stupid again [05:02:00] im thinking... why doesnt this work? echo "wgOut->getPageTitle: "+$wgOut->getPageTitle()+"
wgOut->isArticle: "+$wgOut->isArticle()+"
this->text('title'): "+$this->text('title')+"
this->html('title'): "+$this->html('title'); [05:02:54] nice I got fileupload working [05:03:58] what is it or is it not doing [05:04:01] what extension is used for special formatting like strikout, etc [05:04:07] ? [05:04:23] in php, use "." to concatenate strings, not " [05:04:25] "+" [05:04:38] egeste: i believe that would be standard html [05:05:14] really? hmm, i guess I never use it anywhere else [05:06:14] @egeste: "

hello

" tho i would reccomend a stylesheet [05:06:27] but you could build that into a template [05:06:47] I would prefer to just extend my toolbar like the on on wikipedia is [05:06:52] but i don't know which extensions do it [05:11:48] Splarka : nice its all fixed.... and I've writtten my doc for people to be able to do it themself.... [05:11:57] hahaa... 1:11, time to go to bed... [05:11:59] thankas [05:15:44] Hey, does anyoen know if wfStrencode is no longer used? [05:16:30] I'm trying to fix this old extension and it seems to not be able to find this function anymore [05:20:24] Ergh... Attempt to call LoadBalancer::getConnection with deprecated server index DB_LAST [05:48:54] Hi friends! [05:49:56] Can anybody tell me, is it real: I need that my mediawiki works only in printable version for non logged users.. How i can do that? [05:55:25] 03werdna * r48299 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Link together abusefilter pages with a navigation interface at the top. Add a better intro to the abusefilter home page. [05:55:51] 03(FIXED) AbuseFilter pages don't link together well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17923 +comment (10Andrew) [05:56:25] please answer somebody... [07:08:39] Is there a command that I can add in for a link to go to the page that links to the page im on? [07:09:33] Wut? [07:10:34] like a go back link. [07:12:02] but its not a go back. like if I have page:1 and it has a link on it to page:2, I want a link on page:2 to go back to page:1 [07:12:56] 03werdna * r48300 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add a normal log for filter changes, mostly just a pointer back to the real log. [07:13:20] Cynical: Like a breadcrumb? [07:13:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadcrumb_(navigation) [07:13:56] I don't know what a breadcrumb is other than what drops off a piece of bread. [07:14:25] you could link to [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Pagename]] in each page, though each page already has that... [07:14:40] (and I don't think anyone ever made that embeddable) [07:15:27] So basically just hardcode each page? [07:15:44] I think there's a breadcrumb extension somewhere. [07:16:04] might find an extension like: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BackLinksFunctions [07:16:13] but that is very old and not being updated anymore it looks like [07:16:22] Is there a way to get rid of that Page:1 at the top of the page? [07:17:01] MZM: I think they mean a more automated list of all the pages linking to a page, rather than a navigational history for a given user [07:17:30] Cynical: If you mean the

Pagename

you can hide it with css pretty easily [07:17:33] I thought the back button analogy was more breadcrumb-y. [07:18:28] you're a [predictable joke] [07:18:38] Well if you are on page:1 and you go to the page:2, then edit page:2, the back button takes you back into edit mode so you wind up having to push back more often. That's the only reason cause I do a lot of editing. [07:19:07] ahh, then maybe you do want breadcrumbs, but that is more browser oriented... [07:19:12] http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amediawiki.org+breadcrumbs [07:20:00] thanks [07:20:40] It was fixed it in trunk (later MW 2.0) <-- ... [07:21:24] werdna: stupid question: have you updated AbuseFilter to test only or all projects this today? [07:21:33] all projects [07:22:00] 03(FIXED) Filter changes should be sent to Special:RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17919 +comment (10Andrew) [07:22:05] Raymond_: having any problems? [07:23:11] werdna: no, just a question. but now I can test a few new filters on dewiki :) [07:23:34] 03(mod) Special:AbuseFilter/test needs to self-impose reasonable constraints - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17920 (10Andrew) [07:23:46] Raymond_: yay [07:25:37] Precedence. [07:26:03] 03(mod) Export all pages from a custom namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17886 +comment (10davidt) [07:27:03] Raymond_: feel free to prod me if you have any prolems at all [07:27:17] werdna: sure :) [07:50:09] 03raymond * r48301 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: Use the long time existing pipeList :-) [07:51:48] werdna: Fatal error: Call to a member function link() on a non-object in F:\xampp\htdocs\wiki2\extensions\AbuseFilter\AbuseFilter.class.php on line 1354 [07:56:19] Raymond_: context? [07:56:48] werdna: saving an edited abusefilter [07:57:20] oh you have udp logging enabled [08:02:40] do I? [08:03:00] probably [08:03:06] Raymond_: showoff :P [08:03:42] 03werdna * r48302 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: Fix logging where no skin is given [08:04:30] Raymond_: try updating [08:05:21] werdna: works. thanks :) [08:05:30] :) [08:05:53] werdna: but the only logging I am aware of is $wgDebugLogFile = 'F:\xampp\htdocs\wiki2\log.txt'; [08:07:24] meh [08:07:34] maybe it's checkuser or sth [08:27:51] 03(mod) DejaVu Sans font renders incorrectly in thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17845 (10le.korrigan) [08:30:19] 03(mod) DejaVu Sans font renders incorrectly in thumbnails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17845 (10N/A) [08:30:24] 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8901 (10N/A) [08:47:38] moin [09:03:37] 03aaron * r48303 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/ (Stabilization.i18n.php StablePages.i18n.php): Made i18n easier [09:38:56] 03rotem * r48304 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he. [09:45:51] 03kim * r48305 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/ (installation_system.py installer.py installer_util.py): update_self now supports revision numbers [09:45:59] 03werdna * r48306 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterView.php: Hide rollback links in examine interface [09:47:32] 03(FIXED) Format Special:AbuseFilter/examine like Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17924 +comment (10Andrew) [09:47:38] 03(NEW) AbuseFilter/examine needs paging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17928 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (Andrew) [09:48:54] moin [09:49:41] I've got tinyMCE installed, but a slight issue - it generates HTML markup. Should TinyMCE be set up differently to get wiki markup, or does mediawiki need to be told to allow html markup? [09:50:05] how did you install it? [09:50:51] mm, dropped it into the extensiosn folder... [09:51:00] 03(NEW) Centralauth lock/hide should trigger global autoblocks. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17929 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (Andrew) [09:51:20] then just the basic settings in LocalSettings.php [09:51:23] 03kim * r48307 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/installer.py: [09:51:23] Try this. (It's annoying to have to debug over svn, but this is for [09:51:23] update_self. Update_self might not have been the brightest idea) [09:54:04] hi all [09:54:24] i wonder if FAQ on mediawiki home page is a normal page or an Extension [09:55:03] What do you mean? [09:58:42] it's just a regular page [09:59:05] Ah thanx i tought it was a special extension [10:01:34] Am I misunderstanding TinyMCE, maybe? I was expecting it to generate [[links]] instead of links ... [10:16:11] 03kim * r48308 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/ (getch.py installer.py): Added "Are you sure Y/N" message to update_self [10:19:12] meh... [11:06:20] 03(NEW) Some account creations not apparent in CheckUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17930 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (dmcdevit) [11:10:20] 03(mod) Inconsistent indices on pagelinks, imagelinks, templatelinks tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16645 (10b-jorsch) [11:57:49] 03(NEW) Autocreated category pages should appear in recentchanges and new pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17931 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [12:11:38] 03(NEW) Server error message should include instructions for reloading instead of link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17932 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (gtisza) [12:27:04] Is there a way to set squid cache expiration to API functions? [12:29:17] 03(NEW) AbuseFilter needs diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17933 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (Andrew) [12:29:27] setCacheMaxAge [12:29:27] cool [12:35:47] has anybody an idea, why rollback to an redirect is not working (for testing the link you have to be an editor in dewiki) http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Constantin-Meunier-Museum&diff=57718679&oldid=57718500 [12:44:43] 03(mod) Internal non-ASCII anchors cause wiki_pagelinks entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17751 (10jidanni) [12:46:22] 03(FIXED) Edit alert instead of blocking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4205 +comment (10Andrew) [12:51:04] 03(NEW) Special:DoubleRedirects in a multi-redirect configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17934 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (russblau) [13:00:53] 03demon * r48309 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: (bug 17927) DefaultSettings should link to mw.org's page on debugging. [13:01:44] 03(FIXED) Mention how to debug, not just the variable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17927 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:02:02] 03(ASSIGNED) set $wgMaxRedirects = 2 on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17888 +comment (10russblau) [13:02:17] hey.. whyy cant wikipedia be like a debian package source.. that way, once we get a dump for the first time we can keep doing wikipedia-get update and wikipedia-get upgrade :-P [13:03:09] <^demon> Because that would require a complete dump to begin with. [13:07:44] 14(DUP) Errors in email notofication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17915 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:07:46] 03(mod) Page creation notification email is sent when a watched page is deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15646 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:08:30] 14(DUP) Notification message on page move is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16766 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:08:32] 03(mod) Page creation notification email is sent when a watched page is deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15646 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:11:42] 03aaron * r48310 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/ (updateLinks.inc updateLinks.php): [13:11:42] * Correct page_latest columns [13:11:42] * Other minor ui fixes [13:22:49] ^demon: Ah! Okie.. Is it difficult to "render" a diff for changes between a given date / revision range? [13:23:07] 03(NEW) Unneeded section edit links in edit conflict screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17935 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (lgarczewski) [13:24:11] okie.. probably I need to begin from the beginning .. so Is there a nice way I can keep updating my wikipedia dump without downloading the whole file again ? [13:26:26] <^demon> kamathln: Not that I know of. [13:28:41] 03(FIXED) Uninitialized string offset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17897 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:29:22] 03demon * r48311 10/trunk/phase3/ (CREDITS RELEASE-NOTES includes/parser/Parser.php): (bug 17897) Uninitialized string offset in 
 tags. Patch by Luigi Corsaro. No parser test regressions.
[13:35:42] 	03demon * r48312 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQuery.php: (bug 17871) Mention that exportnowrap format is the same as Special:Export.
[13:36:44] 	03(mod) Special:Export should mention one can also export via the api for much more flexible page choice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17871  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[13:37:00] 	^demon: hey, I wanted most fixed bugs for the week.
[13:37:30] <^demon>	werdna: Go for it :)
[13:37:41] 	:P
[13:37:55] 	hi demon
[13:38:01] *werdna 	has been filing bugs and then fixing them
[13:38:04] 	^demon: so what is the motivation?
[13:38:12] *OverlordQ 	files 20 AbuseFilter bugs
[13:38:19] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Motivation for...?
[13:38:37] 	OverlordQ: go ahead :P
[13:38:39] <^demon>	werdna: Fix one of my bugs :)
[13:38:49] 	heh
[13:38:50] 	noooo
[13:39:01] *werdna 	has plenty of assigned bugs
[13:39:08] 	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=Andrew%40epstone.net&emailtype1=exact&emailassigned_to1=1&emailreporter1=1
[13:39:12] 	^demon: yaml
[13:39:33] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: The wikimedia-mobile localization file is in YAML.
[13:39:42] <^demon>	Thought it might be nice to get it into translatewiki
[13:40:19] 	oh you want input too?
[13:40:27] 	is there any good yaml parser for php?
[13:40:36] <^demon>	Hmmm, dunno.
[13:40:45] <^demon>	werdna: When I open bugs, a lot of them are long-term things that I'd like to eventually do. Don't necessarily have any immediate plans to resolve them.
[13:41:02] <^demon>	"Blocking rewrite" being one of those.
[13:41:04] 	^demon: I'm using bugzilla as a task manager atm
[13:41:38] <^demon>	I'll probably get motivated for the blocking rewrite next time someone throws a stupid column onto ipblocks just for a new permission they want blocked.
[13:42:06] 	although I'm writing a personal task manager with a particular focus on integrating with bugzilla, code revire, email, et al
[13:43:04] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: I can't seem to find anything offhand. Pecl or Pear maybe?
[13:43:20] 	Nikerabbit: did you google?
[13:44:02] <^demon>	Nothing in Pecl or Pear afaict.
[13:44:24] 	use a perl script to convert to JSON
[13:44:24] 	werdna: nope
[13:44:38] 	nah
[13:44:46] 	I don't want more manual conversions
[13:45:11] <^demon>	Horde has a library.
[13:45:19] 	perl -MYAML -MJSON -e 'undef $/; $yaml=<>; $obj = Load( $yaml ); print encode_json( $obj );'
[13:45:32] <^demon>	And the syck package on PECL is for yaml.
[13:45:46] 	pipe it through that with a shell out in PHP and use json_decode()
[13:45:49] *werdna 	shuts up now.
[13:48:19] <^demon>	We should have a roadmap extension.
[13:49:02] 	I'm trying to use Extension:FlaggedRevs  , how do I set it in a way that normal users only see the stable version?
[13:49:28] 	have you seen the doc?
[13:49:33] 	yes
[13:49:44] 	I'm assuming so from the way you said Extension:
[13:49:46] 	poke aaron
[13:49:57] 	he doesn't seem to be online at the moment
[13:50:02] 	:(
[13:50:27] 	^demon: on which language is the mobile thing written?
[13:50:46] <^demon>	The wikimedia-mobile code is in Ruby
[13:51:04] 	^demon: Did you see bug 14418 comment #13?
[13:51:16] 	Wow.  Red Hat has reported that in the last four years, there were 130 critical security issues with RHEL4, and 102 of them are due to Mozilla.
[13:51:19] 	Nikerabbit: it's in ruby
[13:51:22] 	That's pretty scary.
[13:51:43] 	uh
[13:51:48] <^demon>	Simetrical: :-\
[13:51:57] 	why they had to choose yaml
[13:52:12] 	yaml is pretty ool
[13:52:12] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: Yes. Hadn't had time to poke it yet.
[13:52:23] 	03(mod) Inconsistent indices on pagelinks, imagelinks, templatelinks tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16645  (10roan.kattouw)
[13:52:25] 	Ah OK, just making sure you'd see it :)
[13:52:45] 	ool
[13:53:01] 	it's one of the few machine-radable serialisation formats that is actually human readable and not a subset of a programming languge
[13:53:06] 	TimStarling: any news with the cdb message cache?
[13:53:13] <^demon>	Was going to say, it's pretty human-readible :)
[13:53:17] <^demon>	*readable
[13:53:35] 	the other being xml, i guess, but it isn't very human-radable
[13:53:47] <^demon>	If you name your tags well.
[13:53:48] 	Nikerabbit: tim won't be in for another hour or so
[13:53:55] 	he's on sf time
[13:53:59] <^demon>	werdna: I mean, how can Chad not make sense?
[13:54:17] 	sure, but imo ml is best for markup
[13:54:18] 	xml
[13:54:40] 	03(mod) Internal non-ASCII anchors cause wiki_pagelinks entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17751  (10roan.kattouw)
[13:54:50] 	(because every semi-technical person worth their gravy has a passing knowledge of html)
[13:55:17] 	hell, my girlfriend, who asked me for help when the systray icon for MSN disappeareed, knows html when she sees it
[13:56:15] 	YAML looks pretty easy to learn, though.
[13:56:31] 	It hardly even requires learning
[13:56:39] 	Yeah, it's quite intuitive
[13:56:40] 	for basic stuff, at least
[13:57:11] 	At least for people who know basic programming structures like arrays and associative arrays (or hash tables, for Perl people)
[13:57:49] 	werdna: too bad
[13:57:50] <^demon>	I think most people (programming saavy or not) understand a list when they see it.
[13:59:01] 	YAML example: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=general|statistics&format=yamlfm
[13:59:23] 	That's awesome.
[13:59:56] 	looks like arse to parse :o
[13:59:59] 	yeah, yaml gives me warm fuzzies, to use a brionism
[14:00:13] 	Nikerabbit: not if something does the work for you
[14:01:08] 	It doesn't look hard to parse.
[14:01:13] 	A heck of a lot easier than XML.  :)
[14:01:15] 	More like JSON.
[14:01:21] 	Except even easier to read.
[14:01:26] 	03(FIXED) Special:Export should mention one can also export via the api for much more flexible page choice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17871  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:03:19] 	RoanKattouw: which reminds me
[14:04:36] 	14(DUP) Missing eititle gives error message that isnt worded correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17917  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:04:39] 	03(RESOLVED) API error code and info values switched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17703  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:04:44] 	RoanKattouw: those kinds of changes to messages really isn't our job
[14:05:09] 	I don't know whose job it is, but it has to happen at TW somehow, right?
[14:05:26] 	Or would you like someone to go and change it manually in MessagesEn.php insted?
[14:05:39] 	that is they way it happens
[14:05:46] 	Simetrical: yeah I'm using yaml for l10n and configuration on muy site and I'm liking it.
[14:05:47] 	if it happens
[14:05:53] 	03(NEW) "Go" button wrapped to next line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17936 normal; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: android; (innocentkiller)
[14:06:04] 	personally, I'm not sold to the idea to refer to api
[14:06:18] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: I don't like it either.
[14:06:37] <^demon>	The API is for bots, not humans.
[14:06:53] 	refer to api for what?
[14:07:03] 	for "more export options"
[14:07:08] <^demon>	!b 17871
[14:07:08] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17871
[14:07:16] 	14(WFM) mention version at the top of api.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17925  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:07:20] 	rather, if the api can do it, fix the gui
[14:07:27] 	Treu
[14:07:49] 	Not saying it should be done, just telling the reporter I'm not the guy to request it from :)
[14:08:53] 	isn't that stuff usually changed directly in the code for canonical english translation?
[14:09:11] 	Yeah, apparently it is
[14:09:43] 	reassign to the Export/Import component i guess
[14:09:43] <^demon>	In any case: saying "go use the API if this doesn't suffice" isn't what we should do.
[14:09:53] 	right, I agree
[14:10:21] 	but I must sleep
[14:10:25] 	bed tiem nao
[14:10:26] 	nn
[14:10:49] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: The "export" is just a wrapper around the page results queries, right?
[14:11:07] 	Yeah, it feeds the pages to WikiExporter
[14:11:49] <^demon>	Yeah that's what I thought. So an equivalent UI would be like...ability to send WhatLinksHere or various QueryPage results to the Exporter?
[14:12:33] <^demon>	werdna: Goodnight.
[14:12:57] 	I don't know if we should have an equivalent UI, as it would have to support too much
[14:13:08] 	I'm using the LDAP Authentication extension. Is there any simple way I can allow the wiki sysops to additionally create user accounts that aren't in LDAP?
[14:13:38] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: Very true, yes.
[14:27:37] 	how do I remove "edit" or "view source"?
[14:27:58] 	as in http://en.farsiweb.ir/
[14:28:04] 	Hide it with CSS?
[14:28:41] 	http://en.farsiweb.ir/ has not hidden it, if you manually add "action=edit" to the location bar, it won't work
[14:29:14] <^demon>	brion: G'morning
[14:29:29] 	try this: http://www.farsiweb.ir/wiki/Main_Page&action=edit
[14:29:42] 	it says (There is currently no text in this page) 
[14:29:45] 	Wrong URL: http://www.farsiweb.ir/wiki/Main_Page?action=edit
[14:30:10] 	That site uses a custom skin which hides all tabs
[14:31:22] 	RoanKattouw: thank you
[14:36:04] 	03rotem * r48313 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[14:40:37] 	03(NEW) Unified login is not unified (at least for me) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17937 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (timothymh)
[14:46:55] 	hi
[14:47:01] 	mornin
[14:48:19] 	i have some shell output i'm putting on a wiki page.  i like the way it appears on the page when using 
, but how can i highlight or bold the commands the user would type within the text?
[14:48:48] 	03huji * r48314 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: 
[14:48:48] 	Localisation updates:
[14:48:48] 	* Translated names of newly added magic words
[14:48:48] 	* Readding "Main" namespace. (People who think this bug was fixed should be noted)
[14:48:49] <^demon>	brion: You should get the android sdk :)
[14:52:22] 	03(mod) Unified login is not unified (at least for me) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17937  +comment (10Platonides)
[14:52:50] 	03(mod) Unified login is not unified (at least for me) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17937  15enhancement->normal (10Platonides)
[14:53:58] 	^demon: i've got it around somewhere, i fire it up for the emulator to check the browser sometimes. :) too lazy to fuck around with the java stuff myself though, i'm farming that out ;)
[14:54:02] 	runnin' off to the office...
[14:57:39] 	03(mod) Unified login is not unified (at least for me) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17937  (10timothymh)
[15:23:09] 	03(mod) Unified login is not unified (at least for me) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17937  (10Platonides)
[15:31:58] 	03(mod) Unified login is not unified (at least for me) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17937  (10timothymh)
[15:32:49] 	03(NEW) {{{ITENAME}}} - Parser.php Line 2181 Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (gross)
[15:33:18] 	03(mod) Unified login is not unified (at least for me) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17937  (10timothymh)
[15:49:49] 	03(FIXED) {{{ITENAME}}} - Parser.php Line 2181 Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[15:49:54] 	03demon * r48315 10/branches/REL1_14/phase3/ (CREDITS RELEASE-NOTES includes/parser/Parser.php): (bug 17938) Backporting r48311 to 1.14
[16:13:17] 	still strugling to find out how to set FlaggedRevs in a way that normal users only see the stable version?
[16:38:16] 	03yaron * r48316 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormUtils.inc: New validate_mandatory_radiobutton() Javascript function
[16:39:08] 	03yaron * r48317 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormInputs.inc: Added handling of 'is_mandatory' to radioButtonHTML()
[16:39:33] 	03yaron * r48318 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Added validation for mandatory radiobutton input
[16:40:01] 	03yaron * r48319 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 1.5.4
[16:45:56] 	What mode does the images directory have to have for uploads to work properly? The Manual gives 2 options (655 an p+w).
[16:47:01] 	655 gives permission denied errors, and p+with p+w the uploaded files don't show
[16:47:19] 	the only option that worked for me yet was 777, which i presume is a little unsecure
[16:47:40] 	It's the only thing that will work if the directory isn't owned by the user that MediaWiki is running as.
[16:47:51] 	If it is, 700 or better will work.
[16:48:52] 	mh, ok guess it's gotta be 777 then, thanks
[16:49:41] 	Is there a way to make the directory "safe" even with mode 777?
[16:52:35] 	does only the images folder have to be 777, or all subdirs / files in it aswell?
[16:58:32] 	subdirs need to be 777 as well
[16:58:51] 	files only need to be readable once created
[17:02:18] <^demon>	The subdirs will be created with whatever you set $wgDefaultDirectoryMode to.
[17:02:23] <^demon>	Default is 777.
[17:02:59] 	other option is to pre-create the subdirs
[17:03:04] 	there's an script for that
[17:03:42] <^demon>	88 B/s? Ouch.
[17:06:43] 	03(NEW) Add links to entries in categores. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17939 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[17:08:04] 	03(NEW) Impossible to view diffs in talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17940 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (bertrand.grondin)
[17:10:55] 	03(mod) Impossible to view diffs in talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17940  (10bertrand.grondin)
[17:25:59] 	03(NEW) $wgMaxUploadSize doesn't work. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17941 minor; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (robindinse)
[17:28:39] 	03(mod) Impossible to view diffs in talk page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17940  (10bertrand.grondin)
[17:32:56] 	Hi, I'm having issues parsing the rss feed.
[17:34:42] 	Several clients I use throw xml errors ( http://fpaste.org/paste/5850 ). I've svn up'd, run everything that I need to, but it is still not working. Anyone got any ideas?
[17:40:34] 	03(mod) $wgMaxUploadSize doesn't work. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17941  +comment (10overlordq)
[17:42:37] 	03ialex * r48320 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Fix double "see" introduced in r48309
[17:43:59] 	Just done a rss validation, and it says I have two blank lines before 
[17:44:02] 	How do I change this?
[17:46:37] 	03(mod) $wgMaxUploadSize doesn't work. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17941  (10robindinse)
[17:54:20] 	Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'Mail.php' (include_path=blah) in blah on line 119 ? everything is up to date
[17:54:35] 	using $wgSMTP
[17:54:40] 	any ideas?
[17:56:03] 	04(REOPENED) {{{ITENAME}}} - Parser.php Line 2181 Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938  +comment (10gross)
[17:57:01] 	03(FIXED) CentralNotice is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17622  +comment (10tfinc)
[17:59:36] 	MGrab: you need PEAR's Mail package
[18:00:15] 	03(mod) {{{ITENAME}}} - Parser.php Line 2181 Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938  (10innocentkiller)
[18:00:46] 	03(FIXED) {{{ITENAME}}} - Parser.php Line 2181 Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938  +comment (10gross)
[18:01:00] 	ialex: oh
[18:03:36] 	Does anyone know if you can modify the settings for  ?
[18:03:57] 	what "settings"?
[18:04:40] 	When you use the tag, it shows 4 wide in the table. I want it to show 6 wide.
[18:05:27] 	CynMod: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gallery#Parameters
[18:05:55] 	Anyone got any idea how to overcome the rss issues with whitespace?
[18:06:27] 	If there was something there then I wouldn't be asking in here. Already looked.
[18:07:29] 	Thanks anyway but there's something somewhere thats defined as 4 for it to know to only go 4 wide.
[18:10:03] 	CynMod: perrow=6 , if I understand you correctly
[18:11:09] <_sj_>	hiya, I'm trying to rename a set of pages by bot; is there a good example to work from?
[18:12:19] 	14(DUP) AuthPlugin allows the creation of locally forbidden names. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17879  +comment (10rohde)
[18:12:21] 	03(mod) No validity checks for auto-created accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17877  (10rohde)
[18:13:36] 	_sj_: you can also use maintenance/moveBatch.php
[18:14:22] <_sj_>	aha
[18:17:06] 	03(mod) Special:DoubleRedirects in a multi-redirect configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17934  +comment (10mt.cutler)
[18:19:07] 	Where do I put that?
[18:19:56] 	CynMod: ...
[18:20:33] 	Perfect. Thanks a bunch.
[18:21:46] 	CynMod: You're welcome
[18:27:45] 	03mfarag * r48321 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesAr.php: Add LinkTrail, patch by AhmadSherif
[18:34:04] 	03(NEW) searchpage shows wrong linktext for cross-namespace redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17942 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: lucene-search-2; (wickie37)
[18:34:55] 	03(mod) searchpage shows wrong linktext for cross-namespace redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17942  (10wickie37)
[18:41:41] 	hello all
[18:42:24] 	hello Nikerabbit
[18:43:03] 	ialex: what's up?
[18:44:15] 	nothing new
[18:53:30] 	03(NEW) API to create user (disabled by default) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17943 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (michael.daly)
[18:58:52] 	03raymond * r48322 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/ (4 files): Follow up r47847: Show the timestemp in users preference timezone
[19:04:22] 	03(NEW) No search results if "Hits per page" is set too high - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17944 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: lucene-search-2; (wickie37)
[19:07:55] 	brion: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2009-March/041963.html
[19:08:05] 	Isn't the diff supposed to have +'s and -'s? :D
[19:09:31] *ialex 	stabs Emachman :P
[19:11:48] 	Does anyone know of a simple extension that will allow me to stop 'users' from viewing a namespace, but allow a custom usergroup? (.. without a bunch of other security "features")
[19:15:35] 	ooo .. lockdown .. 
[19:15:54] 	!cms | DigitallyBorn 
[19:15:54] --mwbot--	DigitallyBorn: Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at  including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access.
[19:16:12] 	!access | DigitallyBorn 
[19:16:12] --mwbot--	DigitallyBorn: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see .
[19:16:33] 	!lockdown
[19:16:33] --mwbot--	Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
[19:16:37] 	:D
[19:17:42] 	!worstcase !secrets !morbo
[19:19:13] 	lol
[19:26:47] 	03ashley * r48323 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserGifts/ (SpecialGiftManager.php UserGifts.css): SocialProfile: spacing & XHTML tweaks for GiftManager special page
[19:36:41] 	03ialex * r48324 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (17 files in 3 dirs): 
[19:36:41] 	Changes to Configure extension: switched extensions definitions from PHP to plain text file so that it can also be used with other applications.
[19:36:41] 	A PHP parser will be used by default, but a PHP extension is provided to make it faster:
[19:36:41] 	* The extension is tested with PHP 5.3.0beta1, but should also work with other versions
[19:36:42] 	* Some simple benchmark with the new Configure.settings-ext.txt file on my computer result in that the PHP extension is up to 10 times faster than the PHP parser
[19:37:32] 	03ashley * r48325 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserGifts/SpecialViewGift.php: SocialProfile: cleanup to ViewGift special page. also converted a raw sql query to use Database wrapper class...shouldn't break things
[19:39:13] 	03ashley * r48326 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserGifts/SpecialGiftManager.php: SocialProfile: use our fancy custom global here
[19:50:53] 	03(NEW) Update Wikibooks logo for CentralAuth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17945 trivial; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (rotemliss)
[19:53:14] 	14(DUP) No search results if "Hits per page" is set too high - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17944  +comment (10rainman)
[19:53:14] 	03(mod) Searches that are complex and/or ask for a large number of results falsely return 'no results' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16236  +comment (10rainman)
[19:53:39] 	Hi … some special pages cannot by access by standard users … can I somehow extend the list of these pages?
[19:56:32] 	03(NEW) Add tooltips for menu items and MW messages to set them - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17946 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (angus)
[19:57:30] 	!lockdown | zrh
[19:57:30] --mwbot--	zrh: Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
[19:57:57] 	Duesentrieb: THX!
[19:58:17] 	03(mod) Complete migration of all application servers from Fedora to Ubuntu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17452  (10Greg_L_at_Wikipedia)
[20:04:10] 	anyone know what cite error/mediawiki message is showing at the bottom of http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stewart
[20:07:15] <^demon>	Betacommand: Fixed http://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jon_Stewart&diff=1423248&oldid=1423223
[20:07:45] 	^demon: I know now to fix, just wondering what message it was triggering
[20:08:09] 	I wanted to add a category to the message to track those
[20:08:40] <^demon>	Icite_error_references_no_text
[20:08:48] <^demon>	*cite_error_references_no_text
[20:09:13] 	thanks
[20:10:38] <^demon>	np.
[20:14:24] 	Anyone know of a good tutorial for writing extensions that use the database?
[20:14:40] 	Duesentrieb: The lockdown extension works as expected, thanks a lot again!
[20:15:44] 	Nevermind
[20:16:04] 	03sergeychernyshev * r48327 10/trunk/extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/.htaccess: Disallowing direct access to compiled Smarty templates.
[20:17:37] 	03sergeychernyshev * r48328 10/trunk/extensions/Widgets/Widgets.php: 0.8.4 - bugfix for direct access to compiled templates.
[20:18:38] 	03sergeychernyshev * r48329 10/tags/extensions/Widgets/REL_0_8_4/ (. Widgets.php Widgets.php compiled_templates/.htaccess): Releasing a bugfix release 0.8.4
[20:22:01] 	03ashley * r48330 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserGifts/ (SpecialGiveGift.php SpecialViewGifts.php): SocialProfile: spacing & cleanup to GiveGift and ViewGifts special pages
[20:24:34] 	Bye all, CUL8ER!
[20:34:01] 	03(NEW) Show "Date format" on Special:Preferences in current time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17947 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[20:34:16] 	03ialex * r48331 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/README: Mention configure.pg.sql in README
[20:42:00] 	03(FIXED) en.wiktionary bureaucrats can't add sysop, crat and bot flags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17893  +comment (10rhalsell)
[20:42:23] 	Hey brion, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13812 was supposed to be fixed for 1.14, right?
[20:43:54] <^demon>	Emufarmers: Reverted in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/39652
[20:44:26] 	That explains why people are still getting confused by it!
[20:44:57] 	04(REOPENED) Upload errors display pseudo-paths with 'public', confuse users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13812  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:54:51] 	03(mod) Non-conformant XHTML in EasyTimeline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14727  (10Platonides)
[21:22:19] 	03ashley * r48332 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/SystemGifts/ (SpecialSystemGiftManager.php SystemGift.css): SocialProfile: make Special:SystemGiftManager valid XHTML
[21:30:50] 	03(mod) {{{ITENAME}}} - Parser.php Line 2181 Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938  (10gross)
[21:40:06] 	03ashley * r48333 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/SystemGifts/SpecialSystemGiftManagerLogo.php: SocialProfile: cleanup to SpecialSystemGiftManagerLogo.php
[21:50:24] 	03(mod) Query pages should limit to content namespaces, not just main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8130  (10nephele)
[21:52:11] 	hello guys, I'm searching for mediawiki styles (other than official gallery). Anyone can suggest to me some links?
[21:53:31] 	03(mod) Query pages should limit to content namespaces, not just main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8130  +comment (10nephele)
[21:53:43] 	14(DUP) Internal non-ASCII anchors cause wiki_pagelinks entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17751  +comment (10jidanni)
[21:53:46] 	03(RESOLVED) Anchors produce empty pl_title values in pagelinks table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17713  +comment (10jidanni)
[21:57:14] 	Are there any known issues with MW 1.12 and MySQL 5? Also, I cannot upgrade to 1.13 or 1.14 but I need to know if upgrading to MySQL 5 will be an issue with 1.12
[21:59:07] 	should work fine on mysql 5 - though upgrading itself sometimes causes problems. some type for varchar/varbinary fields "sometimes" get padded with \0 or spaces.
[21:59:20] 	so, make a backup.
[22:00:12] 	thanks
[22:03:35] 	I'm trying to create a table with an if statment in it for a template. Like this: 
[22:03:35] 	{|
[22:03:35] 	| {{#if: {{{input}}} | input is {{{input}}} }}
[22:03:35] 	|}
[22:03:44] 	but it is not working, what am I doing wrong?
[22:04:23] 	{{#if: {{{input|}}} | input is {{{input}}} }}
[22:05:03] 	why the pike?
[22:06:23] 	also, this too does not work
[22:06:56] 	output is (somehtml) }}
[22:06:58] 	#if only checks against nullity
[22:07:04] 	{{{input}}} will never be null
[22:07:06] 	thats what I want
[22:07:10] 	{{{input|}}} is null if input is never defined
[22:07:16] 	ah
[22:07:20] 	hold on...
[22:07:23] 	{{{input|fallback}}}
[22:07:29] 	{{{input|}}} <- null fallback
[22:07:44] 	{{#if:{{{input}}}|always trigger|never trigger}}
[22:07:53] 	{{#if:{{{input|}}}|trigger if input is defined|trigger if input is not defined}}
[22:08:02] 	THAT IS WHY you need the pipe
[22:09:32] 	night
[22:11:12] 	Splarka the syntax calling the template looks like this {{Template|input=value}} is that incorrect?
[22:11:45] 	that is correct
[22:12:56] 	so then if I wanted to take the value of input and have it sppear in a table if it exists, otherwise display null, I would logicalluy assume the syntax would look like this:
[22:12:57] 	{|
[22:12:57] 	| {{#if:{{{input}}}|{{{input}}} }}
[22:12:57] 	|}
[22:13:17] 	is that too, correct?
[22:13:32] 	NO
[22:13:56] 	read what I just fucking said, kthx
[22:14:06] 	wow, thank you for being helpful yet extremely rude
[22:14:23] 	 {{#if:{{{input}}}|always trigger|never trigger}}
[22:14:29] 	thank you for reading my helpfulness
[22:14:31] 	im not blind, kthx
[22:14:35] 	re
[22:14:37] 	you appear to be
[22:14:46] 	and you appear to be an impatient douchebag
[22:14:50] 	Is there an easy way to include the page title, a variable for example?
[22:15:01] 	 {{{input}}} will never be null
[22:15:05] 	and you still appear to be blind
[22:15:08] 	(in HTML, not in the Wiki itself)
[22:15:23] 	get over yourself, wikifag
[22:15:56] 	ragequit
[22:15:56] 	idiots
[22:16:10] 	I really dont see how he missed:  {{#if:{{{input|}}}|trigger if input is defined|trigger if input is not defined}}
[22:16:29] 	blind
[22:17:03] 	zrh: sorry, I don't understand
[22:17:12] 	how do you mean get a page title, but not while in the wiki?
[22:17:12] 	Splarka: Just a second …
[22:18:03] 	OverlordQ: I only said it with 4 separate examples
[22:18:11] 	zrh: using javascript (i think)
[22:18:35] 	'Problem' solved, there's $wgTitle … :)
[22:18:49] 	mmm, buggy join
[22:19:06] 	Splarka: ???
[22:20:27] *Splarka 	waits...
[22:20:54] 	9 .. 8 ... 7 ....
[22:21:01] 	i really dont see how you accidently load 7 copies of yourself
[22:21:09] 	should have 'Slapper' as an alt
[22:21:18] 	it's lightspeed
[22:23:41] 	OverlordQ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_of_Seven
[22:24:16] 	eh?
[22:25:15] 	Anime about a girl who gets split into 7 copies of herself, very silly
[22:25:25] 	ah
[22:25:32] 	Lapper coast is clear
[22:44:10] 	03(mod) Superimpose another image as click destination - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8657  (10rene.kijewski)
[23:03:00] 	03pinky * r48334 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Follow up on r48149, update RELEASE-NOTES
[23:03:34] 	03(FIXED) {{{ITENAME}}} - Parser.php Line 2181 Bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[23:03:39] <^demon>	Can I get a sanity check on that ^^ I swear nothing is wrong.
[23:09:44] *Splarka 	says something so that 20090312.txt starts existing
[23:10:07] 	doh, curse you daylight savings
[23:10:20] 	silly
[23:10:53] 	well, it usually appears at 4 PST and I was wondering why it was late, heh... but it is only 3 PST... 4PDT
[23:10:56] 	O_O
[23:11:19] <^demon>	7PM EST.
[23:11:37] 	EDT
[23:14:16] 	bah, the nick wikifag is taken
[23:19:31] 	03(NEW) make maintenance/update.php exit(1) so calling scripts can catch errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17948 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (jidanni)
[23:44:46] 	04(REOPENED) clean up null filenames from database by update.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17751  summary; +comment (10jidanni)
[23:46:51] 	03(mod) clean up null filenames from database by update.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17751  (10jidanni)
[23:54:18] 	just installed media wiki  but my wiki seems to be crippled 
[23:54:43] 	and also i forgot my admin password for my wiki ? any help is highly appreciated 
[23:57:13] 	crippled how? and there's a resetPassword maintnence script