[00:00:35] alguien on line que me pueda ayudar a instalar mi wiki ? [00:14:24] 03(NEW) Abuse filter history "Changes" link for the first filter revision should be useful or gone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18027 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (etdp01) [00:16:01] 03werdna * r48502 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewDiff.php: Fix double-escaping on diff page [00:18:02] 03(RESOLVED) EditPage assumes MediaWiki:Copyrightpage can't be external - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11033 +comment (10jidanni) [00:26:44] 03werdna * r48503 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilterVariableHolder.php: Fix weird interaction of user age for anonymous users [00:43:31] bug 15642 [00:44:37] 04(REOPENED) Remove ability to block other users whilst blocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15642 +comment (10charitwo) [00:45:10] <^demon> charitwo: Well yes, you can unblock yourself the block others. [00:45:23] <^demon> Sysops unblocking themselves is intended behavior. [00:45:41] defeats the purpose of the bug then [00:45:57] a sysop with bad intentions can just unblock himself to bypass this restriction [00:46:48] i'm pretty sure another sysop could unblock a sysop whose block was not intended in such a case [00:47:02] unblock as per irc cabal [00:48:19] <^demon> What you're asking is for sysops to not be able to unblock themselves... [00:48:26] right [00:48:35] <^demon> But that's intended behavior. [00:49:07] anything that can create a log entry or revision should be blocked when blocked, /except/ block/unblock [00:49:11] then the point of the above patch(es) are meaningless, since the restriction can be bypassed, when the blockee is intended to be blocked [00:49:19] that includes edits, deletes, moves, changes via userrights [00:49:22] but not things like preferences [00:49:37] (I believe userrights is still not blocked) [00:50:23] <^demon> charitwo: If you want to block a sysop and you're afraid of them not honoring the block, you should desysop them as well. [00:51:06] that wouldn't work very well in projects in which bureaucrats can't desysop...say places like wikimedia wikis ? [00:51:42] <^demon> *rolls eyes* [00:51:47] i made a scenario [00:51:49] its awesome [00:51:53] <^demon> No, it sucks. [00:51:57] <^demon> Get a damn steward. [00:52:07] and if no steward is available [00:52:13] <^demon> Then they'll live. [00:52:18] 03(mod) Multiple duplicate identical email notifications (enotif) being sent by job queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17620 (10tstarling) [00:52:26] Stewards are always available. [00:52:28] while the rogue admin wreaks havoc on the entire project [00:52:38] lol [00:52:40] 24 hours a day, someone is around. [00:52:44] <^demon> Oh god, just stop there. [00:52:48] theres always sysops if it really comes to it :P [00:52:54] <^demon> We can play what if all day long. [00:53:10] <^demon> The point is: sysops being able to unblock themselves is _intended_ behavior. [00:53:13] you'll have to forgive me, i'm a paranoid individual [00:55:48] 03(FIXED) Remove ability to block other users whilst blocked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15642 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:57:15] charitwo: that happened during Wikimania 2007, almost all the stewards were travelling [00:57:28] took about 2 hours to find one [00:57:36] was amusing [00:58:34] there was talk of a type of something like $wgRemoveGroupsKamakazi [00:58:51] <^demon> Splarka: Editing wikis is serious business. [00:58:53] where you could, as a sysop, desysop someone else at the expense of your own sysop bit [00:59:05] like for super emergencies [00:59:33] *Skizzerz thinks there's an ext that does that [00:59:40] EmergencyDesysop or something like that [01:00:21] <^demon> Splarka: There's no such thing as a super emergency when editing a wiki :p [01:00:43] heh [01:00:47] *shrug* [01:01:00] massdeop would be better [01:03:46] 03werdna * r48504 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewDiff.php: filters are not wikitext [01:05:07] ^demon: well, you could add a feature like $wgRemoveGroupsMutual with a blank default that could do that, then everyone happy (except those trying to get it enabled on wmf), yay [01:05:58] <^demon> Splarka: But I don't care enough...? [01:06:21] sorry, I patened not caring enough [01:06:25] or would have, except I didn't care to [02:23:03] 03tstarling * r48505 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/runJobs.php: (bug 17620) don't run jobs twice [02:30:15] 03tstarling * r48506 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ForkController.php: Allow children to respond to SIGTERM [02:34:26] 03yaron * r48507 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormField.inc: Fixed typo [02:35:53] 03brion * r48508 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: [02:35:53] Revert r48377 "Remove useless trailing space in alt text for redirect image." [02:35:53] It's not useless; it makes cut-n-pasted text much more legible. :) [02:37:12] 03(FIXED) Multiple duplicate identical email notifications (enotif) being sent by job queue - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17620 +comment (10tstarling) [02:38:43] Nicely done. :-) [02:39:58] haha [02:57:27] 04(REOPENED) Export all pages from a custom namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17886 +comment (10brion) [02:58:27] 03(NEW) Friendlier Errors on AbuseFilter/test - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18028 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (overlordq) [02:59:08] hello, what about the recent changes that shows in an IRC channel [02:59:33] is it wiki related or rss notification tool? [03:00:18] suppose you could use RSS, but that'd be pretty slow [03:00:47] there's a page that describes the process but I can never remember where it's at :( [03:01:14] do you recall what is the rss or wiki tool name? [03:01:30] !wg RC2UDPAddress [03:01:30] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRC2UDPAddress [03:01:39] and related options [03:01:45] for configuring it wikiside [03:02:15] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki-Recent_Changes-IRCBot [03:03:01] and/or [[User:OverlordQ/IRCRCBot]], whatever tickles your fancy [03:03:21] ok thank you [03:11:54] 03(NEW) Create board-elections-2009 mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18029 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (pathoschild+wmbugs) [03:24:33] 03(NEW) Hit count sorting doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18030 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (public) [03:44:18] 03(mod) Set logo for Simple English Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17853 (10FromAE) [04:10:17] 03werdna * r48509 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewDiff.php: Prevent cross-filter diffing [04:14:23] !log Synced r48509 in AbuseFilter -- cross-filter diffing allowing leaking of hidden filters. [04:14:23] --mwbot-- Wrong channel! [04:14:31] bah [04:14:39] *werdna stabs mwbot2 [04:16:07] Haha. [04:16:54] I'm admin on a wiki I want to import another wiki wish I'm not admin on it [04:16:56] how to? [04:30:41] hmmm [04:30:54] kinda annoying on the move log there is a (revert) link for files for non-sysops [04:30:59] Copy / paste. [04:31:22] MZMcBride: eww, copyright violation. [04:31:28] Eww, nobody cares. [04:31:30] pasteright violation [04:31:40] Eww, copyright claimers care. [04:31:51] Eww, just link to the history page elsewhere. [04:31:57] Eww, that works too. [04:51:08] 03werdna * r48510 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: Increase threshold for resetting counters. [05:00:48] Is anyone awae of an extension that might add a link to the page to allow for downloading a html or pdf copy of the article? [05:02:40] Wikipedia is trying one out [05:02:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection [05:03:10] along with something like: Extension:PDF_Writer [05:18:04] 03demon * r48511 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/ (FileRepo.php LocalRepo.php): Follow up to r48379, move getSlaveDB() and getMasterDB() up a level too. [05:31:52] 03(NEW) PATCH: Special:Export: prevent option selector flying back to top of list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18031 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (jidanni) [05:33:02] 03(mod) PATCH: Special:Export: prevent option selector flying back to top of list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18031 (10jidanni) [05:45:50] 03werdna * r48512 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (3 files): Add a diff, if applicable, below the var dump in abuse log details [05:59:42] 03(mod) SkinTemplate.php's buildContentActionUrls() ignores protection for article and talk pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17963 (10jidanni) [06:06:06] 03(mod) Consider $wgRCMaxAge when generating limit links for recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9257 +comment (10jidanni) [06:06:30] 03thomasv * r48513 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: minor, syntax [06:18:12] *Lady_Aleena sets out cookies on the table for everyone. [06:18:22] *Lady_Aleena leaves again. [06:21:39] 03aaron * r48514 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.pg.sql: Forgot fpc_level here [06:30:32] *AaronSchulz should staring moving VoABot II stuff to AbuseFilter [06:35:42] hey AaronSchulz [06:50:50] 03(NEW) Wrong Enotif messagetext when a watched page is deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18032 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Email; (mail) [06:53:46] wernda: Special:AbuseFilter/test should say "no results" if none of the last 100 match. Otherwise it looks like it isn't doing anything :) [07:01:30] werdna: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/22 ? [07:02:02] "User:Abusé filter can lick my male chicken" et al [07:05:39] wernda: 'You may not view details of this filter, because it is hidden from public view.' [07:06:11] AaronSchulz: you need to add yourself to the abusefilter grouup [07:06:32] admins don't have it? [07:09:40] AaronSchulz: not unless they explicitly add themselves [07:10:30] why? [07:11:40] It's generally more flexible. What if we want to let nonadmins edit filters? What if we want to tell somebody "no, you can't edit them because your filters tend to have too many false positives"? What if we want to have a sanity and competence check before letting people enter the group? [07:12:48] what if you wanna monitor access ^_^ [07:13:03] That's bad logic. [07:13:20] atm, only the first one makes sense now [07:13:32] Non-admins shouldn't have access. And like any other admin right, if an admin misuses it, they'll be dealt with. [07:14:07] What's wrong with non-admins having access? [07:14:12] In general, the idea is to "not touch something if you don't know what you are doing" [07:14:23] AaronSchulz: people have difficulty with that :) [07:14:31] Allowing non-admins to control the behavior of other users? No. [07:14:43] now, if bureaucrats were the ones to give it out, it would make more sense to keep them separate [07:15:09] unless you want non-admins with it [07:15:20] not too privy to that either ;) [07:15:35] I like the idea of splitting permissions [07:15:42] Then do it properly? :P [07:15:58] accountcreator, ipblockexempt, etc. are silliness in the extreme. [07:16:16] we have so many silly groups, many unused :) [07:16:44] anyways, abusefilter could be like accountcreater, admins have those rights without jumping through a self-promotion hoop [07:17:00] It also keeps logs cleaner. [07:17:04] And watchlists. [07:17:56] and if we insist on non-admins with it, it can be added as a group, like account creator [07:18:43] I still like idea of revoking abusefilter edit access from those buggy sysops [07:19:27] Admins are supposed to be trusted. That includes trust that they'll not break things or use things they don't know how to use. [07:20:25] VasilievVV: why can't you just tell them not to use it? [07:21:10] AaronSchulz: the idea is that if user isn't allowed to do something, he should not be technically able to do it [07:21:46] like protecting Your Version (tm) ? [07:22:08] It's not allowed to unblock yourself. [07:22:14] someone who can't follow an rfc/arbcom decision not to use something should not be an admin [07:22:31] There are about six warnings saying so, yet the software will let you. [07:22:36] this isn't kindergarten :) [07:23:02] You can block all edits to the wiki with a simple line in the title blacklist. But nobody does that either. [07:23:05] MZMcBride: so if rogue sysop block you, you may unblock yourself anyway? [07:23:39] So if rogue sysop misuses abusefilter, tell them not to or block them? [07:23:47] anyway, there are zero disadvantages except a little initial log flooding to my setup [07:24:03] and it's just generally more flexible [07:24:19] a cruft userlist and an extra hoop don't forget :p [07:24:28] but yes, not the biggest deal [07:24:53] I don't think it's worth a huge argument :) [07:25:07] on the other side, the abusefilter is awesome already [07:25:29] How's the backend? [07:25:38] bad werdna, make lots of the bot tasks redundant ;) [07:55:38] 03(FIXED) Rollback of null edit does not restore flag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18001 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [07:55:39] 03aaron * r48515 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (bug 18001) Rollback of null edit should restore flag [07:55:47] mui [07:56:21] 03(RESOLVED) Enable Abuse Filter on English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15684 +comment (10oli_hoop) [07:58:05] hi people. the mediawiki LocalSettings.php has the line "$wgPasswordSender = foo.bar@domain.se", yet 'mailq' shows the sender as hostname@domain.se.. [07:58:14] (which doesn't work, since sendmail is set only to send mail with a . in the username..) [07:58:22] anyone have a clue what's up? [08:51:46] 03(mod) Image page should list places that image redirects are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18017 +comment (10carnildo) [09:02:41] moin [09:05:34] moin [09:44:04] is it possible to mark a custom log type to not show up on special:recentchanges? [09:45:24] CA does it with the new user creation log [09:46:35] but that is more like a hack [09:46:50] it never adds entries to the recent changes table [09:47:33] what wacky thing is Wikia wanting now? heh [09:48:13] oh, just wondering if something is possible, planning out how feasable some wacky ideas of my own are before i even suggest them [09:49:10] in some situations the CA hack is appropriate, in some setting the person +bot works, in some having it not create log entries (not using the Special:Log logging system) might work best, and just logging privately (like CheckUser) [10:07:40] hi! [10:08:23] I have done a new wiki install on my server, thing is I just want users in a certain role to read/edit and etc e.g. no anonymous read access to articles. [10:09:03] !access | error404notfound [10:09:03] --mwbot-- error404notfound: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [10:09:25] Duesentrieb: !thanks :P [10:14:08] 03(mod) Enable Special:Books on Swedish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18023 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:31:39] 03(mod) Enable Special:Books on Swedish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18023 +shell (10p858snake) [10:31:41] and can I block public registration? [10:32:29] there are extensions for such things as well [10:32:39] do some research on http://meidawiki.org [10:33:00] you can disable a/c creation without extenstions [10:33:16] p858snake: how? [10:33:28] trying to remember hangon [10:34:09] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; [10:35:54] aaah... [10:37:35] 03(NEW) File moving error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18033 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Images; (mattbisanz) [10:42:03] 03(NEW) Images component under MediaWiki should be renamed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18034 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (p858snake) [10:44:58] *error404notfound loves MediaWiki Foundation [10:55:45] mediawiki foundation? error404notfound. [10:56:37] wikimedia* [10:57:42] pickymedia foundation [11:14:03] Splarka: pickymedia? :D [11:24:00] 03(mod) colon sometimes URL encoded "%3A" right there in the browser URL entry area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17680 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [11:42:32] is there perhaps anyone about using mediawiki with the ldap extension? [12:35:30] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2009-March/042152.html [12:44:24] Hi all. [12:44:40] Is Mediawiki actively deleting global variables? [12:45:36] not really [12:46:06] I'm trying to port an extension I made for 1.7 to 1.12, and apparently something's eating some of the globals. [12:47:51] I'm trying to investigate, but maybe there's a recommended way to hook Mediawiki to an external authentication mechanism? [12:48:40] !auth [12:48:40] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [12:49:30] Aha! I'll look at that, thanks. [12:49:54] (I'll still need my global variables, though) [12:52:59] Hm, it seems I'm already using AutoAuthenticate. [12:57:04] Lo-lan-do: autoauthenticate has been renamed [13:00:47] Yeah, but I'm still working on 1.12 for now (Debian Lenny). [13:01:02] ah I see [13:01:13] anyway, you should specify *which* globals [13:02:58] In this case, they're called sys_dbname, sys_dbuser, sys_dbpasswd, sys_dbport and gfwww, but apparently others are unset too. [13:03:56] Are there namespaces in use somewhere? [13:05:12] those sound like they are db table names [13:06:07] those aren't globals [13:06:17] anywway you shouldn't need those [13:06:28] you should use our inbuilt DB abstraction [13:07:19] Er, sorry, missing info: they're global variables used by FusionForge, and they're required for the connection to its database. [13:07:40] My extension is implementing an SSO for FusionForge users. [13:08:14] And the FF database is a different one than the MW one, so I can't use the provided abstraction. [13:08:21] doesn't matter [13:08:51] You can use our abstraction layer for any database. [13:09:10] It will give you niceties like error handling for free. [13:09:40] I don't doubt I can. I just don't want to rewrite the whole FusionForge code using the Mediawiki abstraction. FF has its own abstraction layer already. [13:10:24] oh, you've got both MediaWiki and FF namespaces loaded at the same time? [13:11:11] I did an extension for Mediawiki 1.7 which called some FusionForge code to check for users. This doesn't seem to work any longer with MW 1.12, apparently because of global variables disappearing. I'm trying to port to recent code. [13:12:56] I'm figuring that maybe there are PHP namespaces involved, but a grep -r on the Mediawiki code yields too many matches to be of much use. [13:13:14] There are no PHP namespaces in MW right now . . . isn't that 5.3 only? [13:13:30] Namespace conflicts, probably [13:14:11] hmm, disappearing globals [13:14:23] I expect it's just a missing 'global $x' or something [13:14:32] Nothing's changed there in MediaWiki [13:14:36] can we have a peek at your code? [13:16:08] https://fusionforge.org/scm/viewvc.php/trunk/gforge/plugins/mediawiki/mediawiki-skin/GForge.php?annotate=6816&root=fusionforge [13:16:15] Is there a way to mod the code or is there an extension that allows authentication from another source... perhaps a xml-rpc connection? [13:17:28] !auth | BeBoo_ [13:17:28] --mwbot-- BeBoo_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [13:23:44] what are the actual symptoms, Lo-lan-do [13:24:10] werdna: They're varying as I try to fix stuff, and I think I'm close to getting it to work :-) [13:24:28] heh, then I can't help you [13:24:57] I'm not blaming anyone but myself. I left that code to gather dust for way too long. [13:25:35] :) [13:25:43] well when you have a question feel free to ask [13:25:47] Aha, victory! [13:26:39] http://www.placard.fr.eu.org/~roland/tmp/Capture.png \o/ [13:27:36] Now I just have to remember how to change the default MW skin and I'll be done. [13:31:45] Okay, found. [13:32:41] While I'm here, is it possible to easily have separate wikis using only one database with current or (or reasonably near-term future) Mediawiki? [13:33:19] Several clients of mine are asking for a one-wiki-per-project setup within their forge, and I'd like to stick with MW if possible. [13:38:01] any tips for organizing a large number of pages with categories so that one can browse pages by initial letters? [13:38:49] I'd like something like subcategories, with entries that can be unfolded [13:39:05] but any other kind of sensible index would be fine, too [13:39:56] 13:39 < Lo-lan-do> While I'm here, is it possible to easily have separate wikis using only one database with current or (or reasonably near-term future) Mediawiki? [13:40:00] sure [13:40:07] $wgDBprefix [13:41:49] hey RobH_ [13:41:56] Will that create as many complete sets of tables as there are wikis? [13:42:03] ? [13:42:11] Lo-lan-do: yes [13:42:55] RobH_: I'm in FL in May [13:43:18] For the May 12 shuttle launch, if it isn't cancelled [13:43:25] Hm. This might not be convenient, as there are potentially many projects using a wiki. I'll have to think about it. [13:43:57] *RobH_ pulls up ical [13:44:07] coming specifically for that? [13:44:08] Lo-lan-do: what's the problem with having many tables? [13:44:18] Lo-lan-do: or many databases? [13:44:36] RobH_: yeah [13:44:40] cool [13:44:43] Lo-lan-do: wikimedia is running about 700 wikis off a single db master. [13:44:46] RobH_: I'm in the states until the 12th anyway [13:44:52] Duesentrieb: 3 db masters [13:45:07] one for ens, one for de, fr, it, es, ja, zh, ... [13:45:10] one for everything else [13:45:15] werdna: 3db masters for 780 wikis. [13:45:15] Duesentrieb: Not a problem per se, I guess. And if it works, then I retract my objection :-) [13:45:19] If you come near tampa, you can visit me and the servers ;] [13:45:22] werdna: s3 has how many? [13:45:28] Duesentrieb: lots. [13:45:46] RobH: is Orlando/Kennedy space center anywhere near Tampa? [13:45:53] werdna: s1 has one, s2 has what, 16 or something. so... s3 has > 700. that's what i meant :) [13:45:55] I think I'll have two days elsewhere in FL [13:45:57] Kennedy is across the state, about 3 hours [13:46:02] it's 780 total or sdomething [13:46:04] The inconvenience might come from the many LocalSettings.php files I'll have to crate and maintain, but hey, that's what paying clients are for :-) [13:46:08] Orlando is in the middle of the state, about an hour and a half [13:46:17] Lo-lan-do: no, you can run them all off one localsettings [13:46:23] I do it, wikimedia does it [13:46:30] Lo-lan-do: they are php files. you can use conditionals in there. and include common parts. [13:46:34] We can plan out someplace to meet and hang out when dates get closer [13:46:35] =] [13:46:38] RobH: sure [13:46:47] visiting the servers would be pretty awesome :P [13:47:08] werdna: Aha, interesting. Anything public? [13:47:15] RobH: but you bastards won't let me drink. [13:47:16] fuckers. [13:47:17] Lo-lan-do: put the common stuff in the one localsettings file, then look at the host head to decide which db to use and which "local" config to include. [13:47:25] Lo-lan-do: http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ [13:47:33] Hey now, I am in full support of 18 being the legal drinking age. [13:47:38] werdna: run now before RobH can find a large enough hampster wheel for you to power the servers with [13:47:45] p858snake: ;) [13:47:47] I find it stupid that our country can draft you for WAR at 18, but you cannot buy a beer ;_; [13:47:53] RobH: so you can buy me a beer? :P [13:48:03] and you can have sex at 16 >.> [13:48:06] Of course I cannot break the law. But if I order a beer [13:48:07] werdna: Thanks [13:48:12] and you take it when I am in the WC [13:48:18] well, what is a person to do except order another beer? [13:48:21] p858snake: 14 in wisconsin :D [13:48:25] RobH: haha [13:48:29] RobH: fair enough [13:48:39] werdna: planing the trip a bit too much now <.< [13:48:48] p858snake: haha [13:48:51] I have a gf [13:48:59] she'll be in london waiting for me :) [13:49:13] 03(mod) Create proofread page namespaces on Chinese Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15722 (10rhalsell) [13:49:24] 03(mod) Create proofread page namespaces on Norwegian Bokm�l Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16232 (10rhalsell) [13:49:44] you say that like it's a issue werdna [13:49:59] ANYWAY! [13:50:13] *giggle* [13:50:27] p858snake: you made him blush :) [13:50:29] I was saving that stuff for germany. [13:50:35] I hear their laws are just as good [13:50:42] what, the sex? [13:50:52] whatever I was planning for wisconsin. [13:50:55] hahaha [13:50:59] (looking at corn) [13:51:13] *RobH has to find his spare power adapter if he plans to work from the couch today. [13:51:25] It's illegal to sleep with an under-16 anywhere in the world as an australian citizen [13:51:26] werdna: Is Wikipedia using MySQL? [13:51:40] *p858snake <3's australia's drinking laws, eg drink at any age on private property but 18+ to buy it or consume it in public [13:51:40] Lo-lan-do: yeah [13:52:00] no ideas for an index by initial letter for categories? :P [13:52:15] Lo-lan-do: its pretty much the only db software running on the servers [13:52:23] i am pretty sure our mail server is running mysql-lite though [13:52:26] but otherwise all mysql [13:52:58] Okay. I'm still looking for these prefixes, was worried they were PG schemas instead :-) [13:55:14] Ah, it seems it's different databases rather than different prefixes inside one database. But I get the point. [13:56:29] Now all I need to do is find (or write) a non-interactive script to instanciate a wiki schema or database. [13:56:41] But that can wait for a while. [13:56:49] Thanks all for the answers! [14:00:26] Lo-lan-do: you can do either. databases or prefixes. [14:01:38] Lo-lan-do: plenty exist [14:01:53] Lo-lan-do: php maintenance/sql.php maintenance/tables.sql [14:06:30] Glad to hear it. [14:12:05] Hi, i'm looking for help. I'm trying to find/write something that will alter any external links wrote into my wiki. [http://google.com] for example gets transformed into http://site.com/?url=http://google.com [14:12:38] I looked at parsers but they turn media wiki content into a different form, such as HTML, PDF etc [14:13:04] Just wondering if someone could provide the correct terminology [14:17:26] werdna: do you have any security objections to grant the abusefilter rights to wikipedia sysops? [14:17:44] Raymond_: no, not at all [14:17:51] that's how it's done at en [14:17:56] and everywhere else :P [14:18:06] well, we give it to a group addable/removable by sysops [14:18:24] werdna: ah ok :) [14:20:36] werdna: could you do that for dewiki too pls? or do you need a community poll first? [14:20:53] not right now, is bedtime [14:21:02] will the community care? [14:21:02] sleep well :) [14:21:09] will they complain? [14:21:16] will they file charges against me? [14:21:25] never :) [14:21:35] ok then I don't care [14:21:43] file it in bugzilla and mention it somewhere prominent [14:21:57] if there aren't any objections by tomorrow morning I'll do it for you [14:22:05] fair enough? [14:22:10] sure [14:22:30] okay, talk to you soon :) [14:33:19] 03raymond * r48516 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: Add the new WMF group "Abuse filter editors" [14:43:57] Hello, Can I add videos to a wiki? Do I need any extension for that? thx [14:49:56] hi, good day [14:50:23] I was reading the tutorials on web but couldn't find what I'm looking [14:50:56] I have a Template wich is like a box with several things inside, that's ok [14:51:24] the thing is that I want to use that Template in several categories and change one image in each page [14:51:42] so, can I do something like {{thing| -an image- }} ? [14:56:48] tatica: yes. templates can have parameters. in the template's definition, the first parameter is {{{1}}}. parameters can also be named [14:56:52] !templates | tatica [14:56:52] --mwbot-- tatica: For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy . [15:04:23] Hi, anyone noticed there is a sort of tracking image in mw 1.14.0 [15:04:25] I 'see' a 1x1px image on al pages from http://results.labs.wikimedia.org [15:06:06] dendev: you see it where? in which wikis? [15:07:06] i don't know anything about it, but from looking at the site, this seems to be there to track the use of ipv6 with wikipedia. but it should probably only be on wikimedia sites [15:07:08] I noticed it because i get a warning about secure and nonsecure items on one page [15:07:18] on which site? [15:07:42] its a wiki in a restricted network. [15:08:05] I only noticed is because the wiki is in https [15:08:06] huh. i guess that shouldn't be there. [15:08:36] hm... perhaps you copied some css or js code from wikipediaß [15:08:54] can you try to find out where it actualy comes from? [15:09:44] I already searched though the source. But didn't find it till now [15:10:00] dendev: if it' [15:10:02] err. [15:10:11] if it's not in the source, then it's not our fault :) [15:10:21] seriously, look in your custom css and js code on the wiki [15:11:08] > grep -R results.labs.wikimedia.org . [15:11:11] found nothing [15:12:43] I'll do a search again. Already looked in a lot of .js and .css files [19:33:13] rainman-sr: so under 140M? [19:33:19] it's now 126M [19:34:41] i would say under 200M, it might rise on index updates because for some time you have both old and new,and java is not very good in memory managament (i.e. in freeing heap it doesn't actually need) [19:35:01] hmm [19:35:03] updates? [19:35:12] oh the cron job [19:36:05] 03(mod) Default our search box to "Search" instead of "Go" on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17471 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [19:37:57] you could also try the OAI incremental update thingy, its much easier no memory on indexer side, that's what wmf wikis use [19:38:39] mm [19:38:42] maybe [19:39:10] have to look how it goes, I may need to move it to another server due to lack of memory [19:40:24] brion: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=990CE7DF123BF937A25752C0A963958260 eeks! [19:40:33] it is also handy to have some extra memory for linux page buffering (of the actual index) so that searches dont always hit i/o [19:40:36] 14(INVALID) 1.14 ignores MediaWiki:Common.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17613 +comment (10xjakub) [19:43:04] rainman-sr: is it hard to have the daemon on different server? [19:44:21] 'Mr. Evans also wrote that some homeless people "should be humanely done away with, like abandoned kittens."' [19:44:21] from the indexer? no, just change lsearch-global.conf in the [Index] section from v05-s341 to the other host [19:45:08]