[00:02:04] <CIA-60>	03brion * r48648 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[00:02:04] <CIA-60>	HTTP proxy usage tweaks:
[00:02:04] <CIA-60>	* Use $wgHTTPProxy if set for Special:Upload upload-by-URL (it does its own CURL fetch instead of using Http class)
[00:02:04] <CIA-60>	* Explicitly disable HTTP proxy for MWSearch fetches -- we know that'll be local network.
[00:11:34] <Watkec>	i need help.  we have been trying to get a multiple wiki site installation up for days and have had all kinds of problems.  i can read and follow, but after investing alot of time with the farmer extension i find out that it is not supported any more.  Then i try to use the Quick Method on mediawiki -- and i can generate multiple localsettings.php files and rename them, but for the life of me i can't figure out how to get the thing t
[00:11:34] <Watkec>	o work.  is there anyone who can give hands on help?  use netmeeting for instance and i can give you control and someone who know's what they are doing can fix the stupid thing?
[00:12:21] <Watkec>	we want to have one database and one mediawiki installation with multiple wiki's
[00:13:03] <Watkec>	any suggestions?  -- sorry for the rant -- but i am frustrated
[00:14:34] <Skizzerz>	Watkec: have one LocalSettings file shell off a specific settings file based on the subdomain
[00:15:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow double redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18074 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (ipatrol6010)
[00:15:52] <Watkec>	ok, i am not a programmer, but i can follow instructions that i understand -- instead of subdomains we just are using separate directories -- but "shell off" and "specific settings file?"
[00:17:43] <Watkec>	we are trying to follow the steverumberg method.  
[00:19:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:Version should only report Parser items if modified - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18075 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (jidanni)
[00:19:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow double redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18074  (10p858snake)
[00:20:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow double redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18074  (10p858snake)
[00:21:09] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Allow double redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18074  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[00:21:11] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) set $wgMaxRedirects = 2 on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17888  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[00:22:37] <Subfader>	Is there a way to see which / how many users use a certain gadget?
[00:26:16] <Prodego>	from #wikipedia: If one makes a typo and clicks on the suggested link ("Did you mean: puppy?), and that page exists, how about making it bring you directly to that page rather than to the list of related ones?
[00:26:34] <Prodego>	that should be doable right?
[00:28:49] <Subfader>	Prodego: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17405
[00:28:54] <anomie>	Should I file 2, 3, or 7 bugs about the problems I had getting AbuseFilter working on a PostgreSQL-based installation? I have patches for 6 of the 7, and only 1 of the 6 is more than a tiny fix.
[00:32:38] <AnonDiss>	Hello. I have a question about the usage of the {{SUBPAGENAME}} magic word. If I have a page foo/bar/baz, {{SUBPAGENAME}} gives baz. Is there a way to draw bar?
[00:33:25] <brion>	http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/03/upload-by-url-for-testwikipediaorg/ :D
[00:33:31] <Splarka>	#titleparts in the ParserFunctions extension
[00:33:42] <Prodego>	anomie: you might want to just pm werdna 
[00:33:56] <Splarka>	Werdna gone camping
[00:34:29] <AnonDiss>	Splarka: is that pf documented on mw.org?
[00:34:40] <Splarka>	somewhere
[00:34:43] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23titleparts:
[00:34:54] <AnonDiss>	Thanks.
[00:36:00] <rofldaniel>	Hello, how do I enable file uploading on my wiki?
[00:36:23] <Prodego>	!upload | rofldaniel 
[00:36:23] --mwbot--	rofldaniel: File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true to enable it. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads> for configuration details, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Managing_files> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images> for using uploaded images and other files.
[00:36:34] <AnonDiss>	Another question. If I have a page titled [[1000]], can I use it as a numerical value in pfs? ie. {{#expr: {{BASEPAGENAME}} +20}}?
[00:36:55] <Prodego>	AnonDiss: I doubt it, you can try though
[00:37:19] *Splarka 	wonders why that wouldn't work
[00:37:38] <anomie>	werdna is camping? A pm wouldn't be likely to help then...
[00:37:50] <Splarka>	Prodego: WFM
[00:38:11] <Prodego>	Splarka: it seems like a bad thing to do :)
[00:38:13] <Splarka>	AnonDiss: be sure to #iferror it to catch non-working situations
[00:38:21] <AnonDiss>	Okay, thanks.
[00:39:03] <Splarka>	no worse than anything else done with parserfunctions, heh
[00:41:14] <Splarka>	{{#iferror:{{#ifexist:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/{{#expr:{{SUBPAGENAME}}-1}}|[[{{BASEPAGENAME}}/{{#expr:{{SUBPAGENAME}}-1}}|previous page]]}}}}{{#iferror:{{#ifexist:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/{{#expr:{{SUBPAGENAME}}+1}}|[[{{BASEPAGENAME}}/{{#expr:{{SUBPAGENAME}}+1}}|next page]]}}}}
[00:41:48] *Prodego 	pokes AaronSchulz
[00:42:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Did you mean ...? Return most obvious result on top nontheless. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17405  +comment (10Qb_Master2003)
[00:44:18] <AnonDiss>	Splarka: works:
[00:44:22] <AnonDiss>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Anonymous_Dissident/1000/200/100
[00:44:42] <Splarka>	yep
[00:44:50] <Splarka>	are you trying to do auto "next page" "previous page" stuff?
[00:45:13] <AnonDiss>	Yep.
[00:55:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Did you mean ...? Return most obvious result on top nontheless. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17405  (10rainman)
[01:55:53] <gnychis>	after moving config/LocalSettings.php to the root wiki directory, I clicked on the link to go to my homepage, but my homepage is completely blank.  Is there a way to find out what might be going on?
[01:56:14] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) AbuseFilter schemas for PostgreSQL are out of date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18076 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (b-jorsch)
[01:56:15] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384  (10b-jorsch)
[01:56:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Minor MySQL-isms in AbuseFilter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18077 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (b-jorsch)
[01:56:23] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384  (10b-jorsch)
[01:56:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) "Last 10 editors" function fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18078 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (b-jorsch)
[01:56:36] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) PostgreSQL/pgsql support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384  (10b-jorsch)
[02:06:30] <gnychis>	ahhh, got my error: Fatal error: Class 'Array Iterator' not found
[02:11:18] <svip>	If I use {{#ifexist:}} on a redirect, will it still return true?
[02:12:11] <svip>	Yes it does.
[02:12:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The logging table needs a log_user_text field so that events from anonymous users can be logged - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3732  (10jidanni)
[02:41:18] <unlocksmith>	Can anyone tell me how to enable anonymous editing to a specific page. Currently all pages are configured to login in to edit
[02:43:05] <unlocksmith>	ok figured out myself. thanks!
[03:04:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Abusefilter's Special:Abusefilter main page doesn't show anything after you add a filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18079 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (techman224)
[04:11:17] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Send filter hits and changes to irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18080 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard)
[05:01:50] <flaif>	When I go to wikipedia.org the japanese characters don't show up in IE8 unless I use compatibility mode. (worked fine in IE7 and FF)  Is there something incompatible about mediawiki and foreign characters that needs updating or does someone understand why this occurs?
[05:17:39] <TimStarling>	do the characters show as boxes?
[05:17:46] <TimStarling>	or are they just missing?
[05:18:18] <TimStarling>	was the IE 7 you tested on the same installation of windows?
[05:19:53] <flaif>	They are boxes.  Same windows version, just updated to IE8.
[05:20:06] <chuck>	just because it doesn't work in IE8, you assume that there's something wrong with mediawiki? :P
[05:21:09] <flaif>	No. :) Just wondering about it.. works in IE8 in compatibility mode.
[05:23:38] <TimStarling>	maybe it uses a different font selection system
[05:24:09] <TimStarling>	if you go to ja.wikipedia.org, does that work?
[05:24:25] <chuck>	http://gist.github.com/82738
[05:24:28] <chuck>	oops
[05:24:29] <chuck>	sorry
[05:24:53] <flaif>	Still boxes at ja.wikipedia.org .. (unless in compatiblity mode)
[05:25:13] <Splarka>	http://www.google.co.jp/ ?
[05:25:43] <flaif>	No boxes at www.google.co.jp 
[05:26:17] <flaif>	No one else has tried IE8? Scared? :)
[05:26:51] <Splarka>	body {
[05:26:51] <Splarka>		font: x-small sans-serif;
[05:27:15] <Splarka>	that is common between wikipedia.org and each mediawiki install (because wikipedia.org lazily steals the main.css from en.wp)
[05:27:37] <Splarka>	font-family:arial,sans-serif}
[05:27:43] <Splarka>	google goes with arial first
[05:28:25] <Splarka>	as tim said, your IE8 might be using a different sans-serif
[05:28:30] <TimStarling>	can you try a user stylesheet?
[05:30:59] <flaif>	Don't have an account..
[05:31:48] <TimStarling>	Splarka: no windows font has glyphs for every character
[05:32:02] <TimStarling>	if it's not picking fonts on a character-by-character basis, it's flawed
[05:33:14] <flaif>	If no one else has noticed it, it could just be me :) Would've liked confirmation though.
[05:34:03] <Splarka>	seems like the default sans-serif would at least have kanji
[05:34:39] <TimStarling>	I'd check, but I don't have windows
[05:34:52] <TimStarling>	is there a linux version out yet?
[05:35:03] <Splarka>	flaif: any idea how to find out what sans-serif font is set default in your IE?
[05:35:38] *Splarka 	is holding out until IE8 for the mac is ready
[05:38:45] <flaif>	Here is a screenshot:  http://i44.tinypic.com/j81rvn.png  (Bottom is Compatibility mode)
[05:39:11] <Splarka>	http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/33265936/ie8-default-sansserif-fo.aspx  someone with a similar problem
[05:42:34] <Splarka>	hmm, is just some characters? odd
[05:45:28] <TimStarling>	it's the kanji
[05:46:03] <Splarka>	indeed
[05:46:06] <Splarka>	bad: 51fa 5178 
[05:46:09] <Splarka>	767e 79d1 4e8b 5178 
[05:46:15] <Splarka>	good: 300e 30a6 30a3 30ad 30da 30c7 30a3 30a2 etc
[05:46:23] <Splarka>	Hiragana and Katakana are fine
[05:46:44] <flaif>	zh.wikipedia.org is all boxes.  No characters make it through.
[05:47:15] <Splarka>	nothing mediawiki did then, smells like MS "something changed and I don't know what" error
[05:49:25] <Splarka>	> This is a general problem with IE.  Sometimes it picks a wholly
[05:49:25] <Splarka>	unsuitable generic CSS font, and -- unlike other browsers -- it gives no
[05:49:25] <Splarka>	way for the user to select another.
[05:49:31] <Splarka>	ack, bad paste
[05:49:36] *Splarka 	hates forced wrap html
[05:49:56] <Splarka>	> I have found the following works:  identify the font IE is using as its generic CSS san-serif font; uninstall that font, remembering not to pick the option to delete the font files; run IE, which forces it to pick another font; then re-install the font you had uninstalled.
[05:51:26] <Splarka>	so it isn't an easily reproducible error, it is just IE seeing what you have and failing to choose the right one
[05:52:42] <Splarka>	time for /monobook/IE8Fixes.css ?
[05:52:56] <Splarka>	body {font-family:arial,sans-serif}
[06:04:33] <flaif>	I've been playing with the source.  When I remove the <DOCTYPE line at the top it works.
[06:05:10] <Splarka>	yah, so do case-insensitive class names, that's no solution, nor the problem
[06:05:37] <Splarka>	remove the doctype and it isn't using compliant mode anymore I betcha
[06:06:01] <flaif>	:)  I'm just randomly comparing things with google.cn 
[06:07:15] <Splarka>	try: <style>body {font-family:arial,sans-serif}</style>
[06:09:46] <flaif>	Still boxes in my test.
[06:13:03] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48649 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[06:13:03] <CIA-60>	* Disabled one query for now since index is still pending
[06:13:03] <CIA-60>	* Removed duplicate expiry check
[06:13:03] <CIA-60>	* Tweaked editcount limit handling
[06:25:22] <Splarka>	flaif: try http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/IE8_font_test
[06:26:01] <Splarka>	that is all sans-serif fonts on at least 50% of windows systems
[06:33:27] <flaif>	I guess boxes are the norm in IE8.  http://i42.tinypic.com/65pb4k.png  (right is compat mode)
[06:35:03] <Splarka>	that's... odd
[06:35:16] <Splarka>	especially since you have many of those fonts
[06:35:40] <p858snake>	it's not picking up a suitable replacement font in non-capt mode, thats a bug you should report
[06:36:33] <flaif>	It could just be me. (that's what I always think).  If not, I'm sure other people will start to see it now that IE8 has been released.
[06:36:53] *Splarka 	updated the font list with a monospace fallback
[06:37:11] <flaif>	I'm on XP. Maybe Win7 does smarter things.
[06:37:49] <Splarka>	the thing is, without the doctype declaration, I think you're always in compat mode 
[06:37:59] <flaif>	All the monospace fonts are boxes.
[06:38:25] <Splarka>	if it is analogous to standards/quirks in FF/Zil
[06:38:34] <flaif>	That's why google are geniuses.  No doctype. :)
[06:38:49] <Splarka>	even the monospace? that's odd
[06:39:05] <simonrvn>	...and some geeks complain they don't stick to the standards, heh.
[06:39:28] <p858snake>	google r god, you can't complain
[06:39:29] <Splarka>	that sounds less like a font problem and more like a general bug in character selection
[06:40:24] <Splarka>	flaif: does any standards compliant website show proper kanji?
[06:41:03] <flaif>	I looked a bit, but I didn't find one.
[06:43:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Some account creations not apparent in CheckUser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17930  (10JSchulz_4587)
[06:45:46] <Splarka>	flaif: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/IE8_font_test#all_web_safe_font_sets
[06:47:34] <flaif>	Splarka: All 5 show boxes.
[06:48:52] <Splarka>	time to get tough
[06:50:08] <flaif>	This could end up being something on my box.  Don't spend any time on it until it has been confirmed.   Grab virtualbox or vmware and try it :)
[06:50:26] <Splarka>	http://p.defau.lt/?Iin05zh2bJyZl8shsw6syg
[06:50:44] <Splarka>	try that as a local html file, it validates XHTML 1.0 Transitional
[06:51:15] <Splarka>	if that fails, it is absolutely nothing to do with MediaWiki ^_^
[06:53:10] <flaif>	Yes that is all boxes.  
[06:55:54] <Splarka>	k, then MediaWiki couldn't fix the problem if it wanted to
[06:56:01] <Splarka>	other than by ditching compliance mode
[07:14:08] <flaif>	Could add a meta tag: <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=7" /> 
[07:15:02] <flaif>	(I just noticed its use on connect.microsoft.com)
[07:31:48] <GerardM->	Hoi, can someone explain how Cite is mentioned twice in Special:Version on en.wp ? Also when this is relevant, how can you reproduce this ?
[07:34:28] <Splarka>	one adds the Special: page, one adds the <ref><references/> tags
[07:36:22] <Splarka>	they are really two separate extensions
[07:36:25] <Splarka>	see: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[07:36:39] <GerardM->	that is where I have been reading
[07:37:26] <GerardM->	I installed revisions 42818 and 47190 (as per en.wp) and it reports 37577 to me
[07:38:06] <Marybelle>	Special:Version can be misleading.
[07:38:14] <GerardM->	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php#Installation is straight forward
[07:38:43] <Splarka>	-> http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php
[07:38:46] <Splarka>	require( $IP.'/extensions/Cite/Cite.php' );
[07:39:01] <Splarka>	if (   ($site == 'wikipedia' && $wgLanguageCodeReal == $wgLanguageCode )      || $site == 'wikisource'      || ( $site == 'wikibooks' && $wgLanguageCode == 'it' )  )    require( $IP.'/extensions/Cite/SpecialCite.php' );
[07:39:03] <GerardM->	I have the require
[07:39:09] <Splarka>	two separate ones
[07:39:31] <Splarka>	the second has some complex logic determining the load, heh
[07:41:30] <CIA-60>	03nad * r48650 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/ (RecordAdmin.php RecordAdmin_body.php): bug fix - pipes in field content causing trouble
[07:43:25] <GerardM->	This means that effectively Cite is broken for reuse
[07:43:39] <GerardM->	this is due to inadequate documentation
[07:44:33] <GerardM->	is this a fair assessment ?
[07:48:23] *Splarka 	wonders if he missed about half that conversation
[07:48:57] <Splarka>	all you've said is it doesn't show twice in Special:Version, and that it reports r37577, you didn't say anything about it being broken
[07:49:05] <Splarka>	so based on your information so far, that is not a fair assessment
[07:50:08] <GerardM->	When I need Cite twice for the full functionality, it has to say so in the Cite documentation
[07:50:42] <GerardM->	when I am NOT Wikipedia or Wikibooks, I still need both components
[07:50:51] <GerardM->	and wikisource
[07:51:37] <OverlordQ>	the extension page tells you how to install them both
[07:51:37] <GerardM->	when it does not and when you consequently do not get the full functionality, it is broken right ?
[07:52:14] <GerardM->	OverlordQ where http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php#Installation ??
[07:52:25] <OverlordQ>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[07:52:29] <Splarka>	> Cite is an extension which allows an editor to create footnotes. Cite includes several extensions which can be installed independently and operate independently of each other.
[07:52:36] <OverlordQ>	click the link that says Special:Cite.php#Installation
[07:53:41] <Splarka>	and if that isn't enough, you can edit the documentation ^_^
[07:55:07] <GerardM->	Ok.. now I see it
[07:55:28] <GerardM->	so the problem is that SpecialCite reports as Cite
[07:56:27] <OverlordQ>	they're both called Cite, but they link to their respective pages
[07:56:57] <GerardM->	OverlordQ I would call that sloppy
[07:57:20] <GerardM->	it gets you endless confusion because this is not obvious
[07:58:18] <OverlordQ>	well the special page is listed on special page and links to the special page installation, and the parser function part is listed under parser hooks so . . *shrug* :)
[08:02:43] <GerardM->	There are extensions that advertise in both places.. So it is not obvious
[08:02:56] <OverlordQ>	submit a patch :)
[08:03:52] <CIA-60>	03nad * r48651 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: put search results above search form
[08:05:36] *Splarka 	wonders who uses the logic that "has bad documentation" == "broken" anyway
[08:06:16] <GerardM->	I do
[08:06:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable text layer extraction from djvu on Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18046  (10thomasV1)
[08:06:38] <Splarka>	so, anything with web-only documentation is broken when someone is offline?
[08:06:44] <GerardM->	If the documentation is broken, you have people do things that are wrong
[08:07:23] <GerardM->	Bugzilla does not recognised Cite as two distinct extensions
[08:07:30] <CIA-60>	03nad * r48652 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: use getPrefixedText() for title not $record
[08:09:13] *Splarka 	pokles avar
[08:09:33] <CIA-60>	03nad * r48653 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin.i18n.php: surround title in quotes for recordadmin-edit
[08:09:48] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Rename Cite to SpecialCite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18081 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (Gerard.meijssen)
[08:10:28] <Marybelle>	Er... does that fit with our naming conventions?
[08:10:41] <Marybelle>	And changing directory names and change is guaranteed to break things...
[08:11:01] <GerardM->	Marybelle, that is a matter of uninstalling and installing
[08:11:17] <Splarka>	Marybelle: he puts your pedantry to shame
[08:11:26] <Marybelle>	Heh.
[08:12:10] <Marybelle>	If you just want the Bugzilla component changed, that's doable, though unnecessary.
[08:12:26] <Marybelle>	But getting directories changed or the main files renamed is like...
[08:12:31] <Splarka>	they're in the same directory already: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Cite/ and they interact, they should just be one component
[08:12:38] <Marybelle>	<insert analogy of something difficult to do>
[08:12:49] <Splarka>	what you want is for the reporting of SpecialCite.php to report itself as something other than 'Cite'
[08:12:51] <Marybelle>	Yes.
[08:12:56] <GerardM->	Splarka.. http://fosdem.wikiation.nl/revisions/WMF_testsystem/index.php/Special:Version
[08:13:14] <GerardM->	I am actually buiding a test environment 
[08:13:26] <GerardM->	and this is really practical to me
[08:13:40] <Marybelle>	Splarka: Oh, I have one for you. You'll like this one.
[08:13:41] <Splarka>	yah, so you're wasting hours on something that works perfectly fine and is a tiny bit confusing, heh
[08:13:41] <GerardM->	it is not a theoretical position
[08:14:00] <GerardM->	it has cost me hours already
[08:14:15] <Marybelle>	Spl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Andy_Marchbanks
[08:14:17] <GerardM->	that is not "tiny bit"
[08:14:35] <Marybelle>	There should be a Hall of Fame for contribs like that.
[08:14:45] <Marybelle>	He's been at it for weeks.
[08:15:10] <Marybelle>	And multiple edits to the same article. Heh.
[08:15:31] *Marybelle 	suggested having MW eat the spaces...
[08:24:40] <GerardM->	A question on the Special:Cite
[08:25:09] <GerardM->	in it is says that it requires ExtensionFunctions
[08:25:16] <Marybelle>	I doubt it still does.
[08:25:25] <Marybelle>	I think that dependency was removed from everywhere.
[08:27:33] <p858snake>	hmm who was the one with win7 + ie8 compat problem?
[08:31:28] <GerardM->	Both Cite and Special:Cite are in the directory Cite right ?
[08:32:18] <GerardM->	why is it not that you just need to apply to the localsettings ?
[08:32:28] <GerardM->	or can you ?
[08:46:16] <GerardM->	I fali to understand how to install both
[08:52:37] <Marybelle>	!prefs
[08:52:37] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "prefs". You might try: !prefsrant 
[08:52:45] <Marybelle>	!prefsrant | domas 
[08:52:45] --mwbot--	domas: The current preferences system sucks and needs a rewrite. For a list of deficits and rewrite recommendations, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Deficits_of_the_current_preferences_system>
[08:52:50] <Marybelle>	:-)
[08:53:17] <domas>	haha
[08:59:27] <p858snake>	i will remember that for next time werdnum says hes not busy and just sitting around >.>
[09:01:26] <Marybelle>	Everybody who looks at the code just ends up saying, "fuck it" and works on something else.
[09:02:49] <domas>	hehehe
[09:18:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restrict missingsummary to configurable namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18052  (10rene.kijewski)
[09:45:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restrict missingsummary to configurable namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18052   +need-review +patch (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[09:49:56] <vale_maio>	hello everybody
[09:50:19] <vale_maio>	i need some help to install the mediawiki software 
[09:50:30] <vale_maio>	anybody can help me?
[09:50:51] <Marybelle>	!ask | vale_maio 
[09:50:51] --mwbot--	vale_maio: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[09:51:52] <p858snake>	!install | vale_maio
[09:51:52] --mwbot--	vale_maio: Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation>. See also: !download
[09:54:28] <vale_maio>	i've already read the installation manual, but i have a problem
[09:56:36] <vale_maio>	i didn't understand the follow step:
[09:56:40] <vale_maio>	"Hop into your browser and surf into the wiki directory."
[09:56:48] <vale_maio>	et cetera...
[10:04:05] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Remote file descriptions languages should follow uselang= and user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17395  +comment (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[10:04:34] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Remote file descriptions languages should follow uselang= and user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17395   +need-review +patch (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[10:11:28] <watbe>	does anyone know how to stop the subcategories from showing in the category pages?
[10:13:01] <Guest93251>	q: if a wiki as a whole is licensed on gfdl, must it provide access to database dumps? can it ban when downloading many pages, and can it not allow to retrieve total content in any way?
[10:14:18] <Splarka>	rar rainman-sr, how about for 17405 a search form instead of a text link... "Did you mean: [puppy] (search) (go)"
[10:16:08] <rainman-sr>	hmm, i would rather have it silently "do the right thing" than have more buttons
[10:16:39] <Splarka>	you? buttonphobic?!
[10:16:49] *Splarka 	snickers, looks at the advanced search monster
[10:17:14] <rainman-sr>	hehe, not designed by me :P
[10:19:41] <rainman-sr>	in any case, "did you mean" mirroring go/search params of the form seems like the most sane solution
[10:19:54] <rainman-sr>	and simplest to do :)
[10:20:51] <Splarka>	one link for each? Did you mean [[Special:Search/Puppy|Puppy]] ([[Puppy|Go]]) ?
[10:21:02] <Splarka>	(example wiki-esque links)
[10:21:50] <rainman-sr>	i mean, if the user used "Go" to get to the search page, then did you mean should also silently do "Go"
[10:22:02] <Splarka>	ahh
[10:22:08] <Splarka>	hmm
[10:22:40] <Splarka>	the link is always blue btw, wonder if it'd be worth having the Did you know use class="new" if the exact title didn't exist, though it might be confusing not to be an edit link ...
[10:23:10] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=puuppy+fish&go=Go  -> Did you mean: puppy flash
[10:24:28] <rainman-sr>	yeah, did you mean tries too much sometimes
[10:25:01] <Splarka>	always funny when google returns less results with it than without it
[10:26:24] <rainman-sr>	the problem with our did you mean is that it has no ideas what are words and what people names
[10:26:51] <rainman-sr>	maybe i should actually add dictionaries to "did you mean..." :P
[10:27:11] <Splarka>	(ab)use wiktionary
[10:27:25] <rainman-sr>	so in order to be able to nicely spell-check names (which might have weird non-standard spelling), one also too agressively spellcheck ordinary words
[10:28:32] <kraut>	moin
[10:51:21] <CIA-60>	03rainman * r48654 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php): 
[10:51:21] <CIA-60>	(bug 17405) have "Did you mean..." mirror the Go/Search character of original request.
[10:51:21] <CIA-60>	If the user reached the search page using "Go", "Did you mean" will also use "Go" and
[10:51:21] <CIA-60>	directly link to article.
[10:53:33] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Did you mean ...? Return most obvious result on top nontheless. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17405  +comment (10rainman)
[11:37:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support multiple file uploads via Special:Upload (backend/infrastructure) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16751  +comment (10diaa_abdelmoneim)
[11:43:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Full screen in <video> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18082 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (diaa_abdelmoneim)
[12:18:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change favicon for Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315  +comment (10wiki)
[12:22:25] <wikibugs>	03(RESOLVED) Did you mean ...? Return most obvious result on top nontheless. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17405  +comment (10subfader)
[12:22:46] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Did you mean ...? Return most obvious result on top nontheless. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17405  (10subfader)
[12:38:40] <CIA-60>	03nad * r48655 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryWatch/ (CategoryWatch.i18n.php CategoryWatch.php): Add new auto-watch-category feature (disabled by default)
[12:40:13] <GerardM->	What tool do we use to read cdb data ?
[12:40:23] <GerardM->	freecdb ?
[12:40:28] <werdna>	there are inbuilt php functions
[12:40:37] <domas>	I was just discussing cdb somewhere
[12:40:45] <domas>	GerardM-: we don't read cdb data ;-))
[12:41:05] <werdna>	do so
[12:41:14] <GerardM->	we use it for the TrustedXFF extension
[12:41:25] <werdna>	and others
[12:41:29] <werdna>	read the code and find out
[12:42:23] <GerardM->	I am trying to run the generate.php from that extension and it fails 
[12:42:49] <GerardM->	$outFile = dba_open( 'trusted-xff.cdb', 'n', 'cdb' );
[12:42:50] <GerardM->	if ( !$outFile ) {
[12:42:52] <GerardM->	 echo "Unable open output file \"trusted-xff.cdb\"\n";
[12:42:54] <GerardM->	 exit( 1 );
[12:42:57] <werdna>	please provide a vaguer error message :)
[12:43:07] <GerardM->	thank you
[12:43:10] <GerardM->	it is what I get
[12:43:26] <GerardM->	Warning: dba_open(trusted-xff.cdb,n): No such handler: cdb in
[12:43:43] <GerardM->	is this better ?
[12:43:53] <werdna>	yes
[12:44:03] <domas>	then compile php with cdb support 
[12:44:17] <GerardM->	Huh
[12:44:36] <werdna>	http://au2.php.net/manual/en/dba.installation.php
[12:45:20] <domas>	as in, cdb headers have to be somewhere out there when it is building dba extension
[12:47:09] <domas>	GerardM-: --with-cdb 
[12:47:47] <GerardM->	I have never compiled anything like php
[12:47:56] <GerardM->	and an rather taken aback
[12:48:36] <domas>	*shrug*, you can use other supported dbm
[12:48:53] <werdna>	well, presumably you're using distro packages
[12:49:05] <werdna>	maybe the extension is available separately
[12:49:29] <domas>	werdna: probably not - it is part of other extension, that is enabled
[12:49:36] <domas>	as in, dba is enabled, just without cdb support
[12:50:01] <werdna>	shrug
[12:50:06] <GerardM->	fyi, I am rebuilding Wikipedia in a testing environment.. that is where this hits me
[12:50:38] <werdna>	php-db - PHP PEAR Database Abstraction Layer
[12:50:41] <werdna>	install that package
[12:50:42] <domas>	if you're rebuilding wikipedia, you can recompile kernels too ;-)
[12:50:48] <domas>	werdna: thats not dba
[12:50:57] <werdna>	domas: o rly
[12:51:03] <domas>	thats PEAR!
[12:51:31] <domas>	anyway, distro packages have db4 support for dba wrapper usually
[12:51:36] <domas>	so just replace 'cdb' with 'db4' or something
[12:51:51] <domas>	# php -i | grep cdb
[12:51:51] <domas>	Supported handlers => cdb cdb_make db4 inifile flatfile 
[12:52:00] <domas>	just will have to generate db4 file too
[12:52:23] <werdna>	ok srsly bedtime
[12:52:23] <werdna>	nn
[12:55:36] <GerardM->	sleep welll and thanks
[12:58:35] <Danny_B>	is it hard to program (or rather: to add to the current stuff) the syntax feature which does not affect the text within the page content but somewhere outside (such as eg. categories,interwikis,displaytitle do)?
[12:59:37] <Skjackey_tse>	!botinfo | Skjackey tse
[12:59:37] --mwbot--	Skjackey tse: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me.
[13:16:21] <CIA-60>	03nad * r48656 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryWatch/CategoryWatch.i18n.php: categorywatch-autocat message not quite right
[13:18:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Send filter hits and changes to irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18080  (10danny.b)
[13:18:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RecentChanges IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16599  (10danny.b)
[13:35:12] <anon12>	hy everybody
[13:35:55] <anon12>	szeretnék segítséget kérni
[13:36:07] <anon12>	!_KaszpiR_
[13:36:07] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "_kaszpir_".
[13:36:34] <anon12>	!avar
[13:36:34] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "avar".
[13:36:38] <anon12>	avar
[13:36:47] <anon12>	!admin
[13:36:47] --mwbot--	To recreate the admin user, run "php maintenance/createAndPromote.php" on the command line.
[13:37:07] <anon12>	php maintenance/createAndPromote.php
[13:37:13] <anon12>	!stewards
[13:37:13] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "stewards".
[13:37:25] <anon12>	!mwbot
[13:37:25] --mwbot--	Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn
[13:39:52] <Skjackey_tse>	!botinfo | anon12
[13:39:52] --mwbot--	anon12: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me.
[13:40:03] <OverlordQ>	they left :)
[14:18:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Full screen in <video> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18082  (10roan.kattouw)
[14:20:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) UserRightsNotif Extension blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18083 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bertrand.grondin)
[14:37:06] <Emachman>	Well, this sucks.
[14:37:28] <Emachman>	I have to use a rental computer, so I don't have svn installed
[14:37:44] <Emachman>	And it's mac version 10.3, so I can't install it
[14:37:47] <Emachman>	No developing for me
[14:38:05] <Nikerabbit>	ör?
[14:38:46] <Emachman>	r?
[14:41:18] <techman224>	Enachman, try using the svn command from terminal
[14:44:08] <Danny_B>	TimStarling: could you please check why markers are visible in infobox on http://cs.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spojen%C3%A9_kr%C3%A1lovstv%C3%AD_Velk%C3%A9_Brit%C3%A1nie_a_Irska&oldid=3755409 ? whenever you'll have the time... thx.
[14:47:52] <OverlordQ>	just ssh to
[14:47:55] <OverlordQ>	toolserver :P
[14:50:51] <|X|>	OverlordQ, but thatdoesn't have my private key
[14:51:12] <|X|>	techman224, -bash: svn: command not found
[14:51:38] <techman224>	Guest that 10.3 doesn't have it
[14:52:13] <Emachman>	techman224, I see that 1.4.4 is 10.3 compatible, but I can't see where to download it
[14:53:41] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Change "Portal talk" to "Perbincangan Portal" on mswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9907  summary (10tarmiziaffandi)
[15:10:17] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) set $wgMaxRedirects = 2 on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17888  normal->15enhancement; normal->low;  +easy; +comment (10ipatrol6010)
[15:19:31] <chasingsol>	good morning. receiving an error in my mediawiki install that has previously run without issue until today...
[15:19:35] <chasingsol>	MySQL returned error "145: Table './wikidb/searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)".
[15:19:57] <chasingsol>	thoughts, comments?
[15:24:43] <chasingsol>	well: repair table searchindex; worked... very odd
[15:24:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Useless textarea when replying to a comment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18084 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (ahmad.m.sherif)
[15:45:20] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r48657 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php Configure.settings-ext.txt): Updated CodeReview and FlaggedRevs extensions
[15:55:36] <wikibugs>	03(VERIFIED) Pagination doesn't work on Special:PrefixIndex with no prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16434  (10ipatrol6010)
[15:56:49] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Pagination doesn't work on Special:PrefixIndex with no prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16434  +comment (10ipatrol6010)
[16:01:11] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Pagination doesn't work on Special:PrefixIndex with no prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16434  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[16:01:22] <Prodego>	Mike_lifeguard: gah, you beat me
[16:01:31] <Mike_lifeguard>	bwahaha
[16:07:58] <Emachman>	Would it be a bad idea to ssh into another server, ssh-keygen there, and send brion the new key?
[16:18:25] <Jinx>	Is there a known issue/config setting which results in the search results coming up empty when using the side-box Go/Search, but not when using Advanced Search?
[16:18:40] <Jinx>	interestingly, i'm searching the name of a valid page
[16:18:57] <Jinx>	(case-sensitive and all)
[16:21:21] <wRAR>	can I force clearing of Special:BrokenRedirects cache?
[16:25:26] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Abusefilter's Special:Abusefilter main page doesn't show anything after you add a filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18079  +comment (10techman224)
[16:26:24] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Abusefilter's Special:Abusefilter main page doesn't show anything after you add a filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18079  +comment (10techman224)
[16:29:48] <rainman-sr>	Jinx, not that we are aware of, provided it's not the short keyword issue
[16:31:35] <Jinx>	no... the page title "Scripts" should be long enough
[16:32:05] <Jinx>	it's confusing me, because i've got two wikis on the same server--one which search seems to work fine, the other in which it doesn't
[16:32:47] <Jinx>	my only thought is that something is going on in the database... but i honestly wouldn't know at all how to fix that
[16:38:30] <Subfader>	is there a way to display the name of the last page in a category? i'd need it for a template
[16:46:39] <Jinx>	reviewing the source... it looks like the sidebox search "action" goes to : /wiki/index.php/Special:Search ... whereas the advanced search action goes only to /wiki/index.php ... is this normal?
[16:47:30] <Jinx>	the sidebox search on wiki pedia goes to /wiki/Special:Search ... though i assume that's rewritten
[16:48:24] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r48658 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files): Same as r48631; added "@file" when needed, also added doc in redirect.php and install-utils.inc
[17:05:05] <CIA-60>	03rotem * r48659 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[17:14:33] <techman224>	Ok, I have a question about extensions and userrights.
[17:15:52] <techman224>	What do I need to do if I want to allow more then two rights to access the same command
[17:20:01] <techman224>	I have  if ( $row->af_hidden && !$wgUser->isAllowed( 'abusefilter-modify' ) ) {
[17:20:02] <techman224>	            return false;
[17:20:02] <techman224>	        }
[17:20:25] <techman224>	I want to add abusefilter-view-hidden to it
[17:21:18] <techman224>	Mike_lifeguard, do you know anything on mediawwiki development?
[17:21:46] <Mike_lifeguard>	some small amount, yes
[17:22:14] <techman224>	ok, http://rafb.net/p/lfSqjk71.html
[17:22:31] <techman224>	I want to add abusefilter-view-hidden to that
[17:23:53] <ialex>	$row->af_hidden && !$wgUser->isAllowed( 'abusefilter-modify' ) && !$wgUser->isAllowed( 'abusefilter-view-hidden' )
[17:24:08] <techman224>	got it
[17:26:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Techblog needs skin tweak - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18085 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (danny.b)
[17:27:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788  (10danny.b)
[17:28:54] <techman224>	ialex, it's not working
[17:31:35] <techman224>	ialex, http://rafb.net/p/j1MDjD27.html
[17:33:07] <ialex>	techman224: what's happening?
[17:33:14] <mvatki>	what is the best way to achieve a common login for several wikis?
[17:33:26] <techman224>	ialex, nothing changed
[17:33:37] <techman224>	It still showing, "You may not view details of this filter, because it is hidden from public view."
[17:35:50] <ialex>	mvatki: use a shared user table
[17:36:52] <ialex>	techman224: and you're sure that you have one of this two rights
[17:36:53] <ialex>	?
[17:36:55] <mvatki>	ok
[17:36:59] <techman224>	ialex, yes
[17:37:08] <mvatki>	so, will the session be transfered?
[17:37:27] <techman224>	ialex, www.techman224/testwiki
[17:37:37] <techman224>	www.techman224.com/testwiki
[17:37:40] <mvatki>	for instance if a user logs in on one wiki, will he be also logged in when he navigates to another?
[17:38:10] <ialex>	mvatki: yes
[17:39:13] <mvatki>	can I set that in localsettings.php?
[17:39:31] <chuck>	ialex, mvatki: using a shared user table isn't enough to get a shared session also
[17:39:43] <chuck>	you have to also use wgCookieDomain
[17:40:00] <mvatki>	is there somewhere where I can read about this?
[17:41:47] <ialex>	chuck: if it's on the same domain, this is enough
[17:42:28] <chuck>	!$ wgCookieDomain
[17:42:28] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "$". You might try: !cowsay !delete !domdocument !errors !extranamespace !filesize !fileurl !js !logo !newusergroup !seen !smtp !store !suggest !tell !tidyforidiots !upload !uploads !version !wg 
[17:42:37] <chuck>	no
[17:42:39] <chuck>	!wg CookieDomain
[17:42:39] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgCookieDomain
[17:42:42] <chuck>	yeah
[17:42:43] <chuck>	and
[17:42:49] <chuck>	!wg SharedTables
[17:42:49] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgSharedTables
[17:42:52] <chuck>	mvatki: ^
[17:42:53] <chuck>	those two links
[17:42:58] <mvatki>	cool
[17:43:05] <mvatki>	thanks
[17:44:58] <techman224>	ialex?
[17:48:15] <Bernardissimo>	hi everyone. is there a way to exclude a single page from categorization, i.e. even if templates come with categories, this page stays uncategorized?
[17:48:25] <ialex>	techman224: this is AbuseFilter::ajaxGetFilter() ?
[17:48:59] <ialex>	Bernardissimo: no
[17:49:10] <techman224>	ialex, yes
[17:50:12] <techman224>	ialex, I want users with abusefilter-view-hidden to be able to view hidden filters
[17:50:24] <Bernardissimo>	ialex: okay, thank you!
[17:58:56] <Subfader>	Bernadissimo: try to add the cats inside the <includeonly> tags
[18:00:52] <Subfader>	Bernardissimo: ^^
[18:01:04] <Bernardissimo>	subfader: but the categories should be included in all pages in which i have the template. but one
[18:01:34] <techman224>	ialex, I founf something
[18:02:50] <Subfader>	then the page which should not be categorizes but list the template with categorization should call the templated inside the includeonly tag. hope i don't misunderstand you
[18:03:09] <techman224>	ialex, it appears that when I do this,
[18:03:25] <techman224>	$row->af_hidden && !$wgUser->isAllowed( 'abusefilter-view-hidden' )
[18:03:39] <techman224>	Both user rights can access the filter
[18:03:50] <techman224>	You don't need to set abusefilter-modify
[18:05:00] <techman224>	ialex?
[18:06:48] <Bernardissimo>	subfader: i do want the template itself to appear, just not the categorization to happen. if i put the template in includeonly, the whole thing is hidden. i guess the only solution is to subst: the template and then cut off the category from the template source. it's just not the perfect way since i then have to manually update every change to the template
[18:07:27] <techman224>	never mind that
[18:08:06] <Subfader>	and <noinclude> around the cats in the template? ok gotta run
[18:16:47] <chuck>	code review is taking a really long time, it's been weeks since the last one, hasn't it?
[18:46:33] <ialex>	chuck: last scap was about February 18
[18:47:41] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r48660 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/ (AbuseFilterViewExamine.php AbuseFilterViewTestBatch.php): Fix calls to deprecated functions
[19:17:09] <Jinx>	Is there any reason the side search/go-box wouldn't properly forward a user to a given page or search results?
[19:18:28] <Jinx>	I have two wikis setup on the same server... with really similar configs... on one (small db), searches/"go"s work fine... the other (large db), neither work from the side-box... though the "advanced search" page seems to return some results
[19:18:48] <Jinx>	is it possible something is wrong with the database? is there a way to repair it / clear some cache??
[19:24:49] <davifer>	HI! How can I create a downloadable (XML) file on fly??.... Using "header" I get all the html code inside the xml, and obviously I don't want it at all 
[19:25:42] <Reedy>	Special:Export ?
[19:26:46] <davifer>	I'll look for it, thanks, anyway this.. "action" is made in another extension.. 
[19:33:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Addition of IP Block Exempt right to Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18086 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (bluegoblin)
[19:35:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Enable IP block exemption on Simple English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18087 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (techman224)
[19:37:22] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Addition of IP Block Exempt right to Simple Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18086  +comment (10Prodego)
[19:37:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable IP block exemption on Simple English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18087  +comment (10Prodego)
[19:38:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable IP block exemption on Simple English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18087   +shell; +comment (10Prodego)
[19:42:08] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Special:Random/asdf causes database error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18065  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[19:42:10] <wikibugs>	03(RESOLVED) Database error on [[Special:Random/redirect]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17799  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[19:42:42] <Marybelle>	The hell?
[19:42:58] <Marybelle>	ialex: You can't resolve as a dupe if the problem isn't fixed...
[19:43:13] <ialex>	Marybelle: the problem is fixed, but not live
[19:43:41] <ialex>	Marybelle: and this is a dupe, so this is marked as dupe
[19:43:43] <Marybelle>	Ahh. 
[19:43:51] <Marybelle>	Well, okay then. :P
[19:52:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:CodeReview: Useless textarea when replying to a comment - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18084  summary (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[20:03:21] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r48661 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.handler-db.php): Fixed a bug when using PostgresSQL with database handler: old versions were inaccessible
[20:23:05] <CIA-60>	03philip * r48662 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Update the Chinese conversion tables.
[20:32:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) A new protection levels for page editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18088 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (michael.angelkovich)
[20:43:46] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) A new protection levels for page editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18088  +comment (10Prodego)
[20:53:02] *Prodego 	rawrs at chuck
[20:53:37] <chuck>	oops
[20:53:43] <chuck>	^_^ sorry
[21:05:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Remove invisible massive world alphabets from edit form that aren't invisible to all - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18089 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (jidanni)
[21:07:39] <Mike_lifeguard>	wtf?
[21:11:29] <Aaron|away>	heh
[21:12:51] <Biiaru>	is there a specific channel to go to to ask questions about templates, or should I just ask here?
[21:15:17] <chuck>	Biiaru: here
[21:17:13] <Biiaru>	alright. I need a template that you plug a number into and it repeats a piece of text that many times. I can't seem to find a way to make a loop, though
[21:17:52] <Biiaru>	didn't see anything like that on the advanced templates page
[21:18:46] <Biiaru>	do i need a separate extension for that, then?
[21:19:03] <Biiaru>	because unless i'm overlooking it, it doesn't seem to be a mediawiki feature
[21:22:37] <Biiaru>	ah, found it
[21:22:39] <Biiaru>	it is an extension
[21:22:40] <Biiaru>	okay.
[21:27:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Spam not being deleted from OTRS system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18042  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[22:38:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) make maintenance/update.php exit(1) so calling scripts can catch errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17948   +need-review +patch; +comment (10jidanni)
[22:45:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Output errors on Special:AbuseFilter/examine when the user has no edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18090 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard)
[22:47:07] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Sysops should be able to use Special:AbuseFilter/examine against deleted edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18091 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard)
[22:53:07] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Fatal error when submitting test cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18092 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (skizzerz)
[22:54:22] <Mike_lifeguard>	heh, I was just about to report that one
[22:55:02] <Mike_lifeguard>	or not...
[22:57:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:AbuseFilter/test/# returns a blank white page when submitted with no input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18093 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard)
[22:59:40] <Skizzerz>	Mike_lifeguard: blank white page == php fatal error ;), I just somehow happened to get a detailed wikimedia error page the first time I did it which is how I got the file, line number, and error message
[23:00:24] <Mike_lifeguard>	ahh, k
[23:01:12] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Special:AbuseFilter/test/# returns a blank white page when submitted with no input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18093  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[23:01:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Fatal error when submitting test cases - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18092  (10mikelifeguard)
[23:12:07] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Enable AbuseFilter for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18094 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (mikelifeguard)
[23:25:28] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) AbuseFilter should be able to access file metadata on upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18095 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard)
[23:32:31] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:AbuseFilter/examine doesn't list log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18096 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard)