[00:01:00] <poke`>	brion: After you saw my extension yesterday, is it possible to get SVN access or do I need more extensions first? ^^
[00:02:40] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48772 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount_body.php: More title handling tweaks
[00:03:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:RequestAccount form post results in BadTitle page (ConfirmAccount Extension) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18053  (10JSchulz_4587)
[00:04:56] <CIA-60>	03siebrand * r48773 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[00:04:56] <CIA-60>	Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net
[00:04:56] <CIA-60>	* adding Veps
[00:06:43] <werdna>	\o/
[00:06:46] <werdna>	no moar confusion
[00:08:11] <beniamino>	cirwin: ok, thanks again. it's getting late here but i'll try again tomorrow
[00:15:55] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48774 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.php flaggedrevs.css): (bug 18141) 'Invalid Color Values in Style Sheet'
[00:16:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Invalid Color Values in Style Sheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18141  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[00:16:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788  (10JSchulz_4587)
[00:27:29] <Splarka>	AaronSchulz: there is one in shared.css too
[00:27:41] <AaronSchulz>	meh
[00:27:42] <Splarka>	159 : 	aaron 	43595 	div.searchresults {
[00:27:42] <Splarka>	160 : 	  	  	border:1px solid darkblue;
[00:47:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Deletion of Toki Pona Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18142 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (filemon.fm)
[00:50:00] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Deletion of Toki Pona Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18142  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[00:50:02] <wikibugs>	03(RESOLVED) Delete tokipona wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11511  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[00:50:54] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Delete tokipona wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11511  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[00:51:23] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Delete tokipona wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11511  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[00:54:02] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48775 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialGlobalGroupMembership.php: Fix fatal introduced somewhere along the line (probably by core changes)
[00:55:06] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Allow restriction of access to Special:Code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17984  +comment (10brion)
[00:55:55] <brion>	AaronSchulz: ^ :D
[01:02:53] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Option to collapse whitespace-only changes in CodeReview diffs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18143 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (brion)
[01:08:14] <zrh>	Good night, thanks for your help!
[01:15:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install standard anti-abuse extensions on usabilitywiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18139  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[01:17:36] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Unable to change temporary password - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17722  04CRIT->04BLOCKER; +comment (10brion)
[01:19:02] <Prodego>	well that is the first real blocker I have seen
[01:19:32] <Simetrical>	Bah, "blocker" description says "blocks testing or development work".
[01:19:37] <Simetrical>	Not "blocks deployment".
[01:19:50] <brion>	i don't give a shit what the people who wrote bugzilla like to call a blocker
[01:20:23] <poke`>	^^
[01:20:39] <Simetrical>	Mozilla's Bugzilla uses per-release blocker flags.
[01:21:52] <werdna>	I'll get to it
[01:22:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unable to change temporary password - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17722  (10brion)
[01:22:15] <werdna>	been fixing this damn parser test
[01:22:41] <brion>	Simetrical: given that our deployment is of live development trunk rather than releases, it seems relevant :)
[01:22:48] <brion>	thx werdna 
[01:22:50] <brion>	you da man
[01:23:13] <werdna>	brion: I know.
[01:24:26] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48776 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (parserTests.inc parserTests.txt): Add tests for autoformatting enabled AND disabled. Some enabling changes in parserTests.inc
[01:25:50] <werdna>	brion: how do I get a working sendmail on os x?
[01:25:57] <brion>	heh
[01:26:06] <brion>	werdna: it works for local delivery by default, actually
[01:26:16] <brion>	use your username@localhost address
[01:26:27] <brion>	'mail' in Terminal will give you a nice bare-bones local mail client
[01:27:08] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48777 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (ApiCodeComments.php ApiCodeDiff.php ApiCodeUpdate.php): Follow up to r48538: check permissions for api
[01:27:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Invalid Color Values in Style Sheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18141  (10danny.b)
[01:28:21] <brion>	   1 previously failing test(s) now PASSING! :)
[01:28:26] <brion>	   1 new PASSING test(s) :)
[01:28:27] <brion>	woo
[01:29:00] <brion>	werdna: hmm, so is it reformatting unlinked dates when it's disabled or not?
[01:29:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788  (10danny.b)
[01:30:28] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48778 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialGlobalGroupMembership.php: Implement changes from r48746 in subclassers of Userrightspage, avoid warnings
[01:31:07] <werdna>	brion: I need a sendmail
[01:31:23] <werdna>	brion: yes, because users specifically ask for it with {{dateformat:Date}}
[01:31:43] <brion>	well if they use {{dateformat:}} then that's a parser function
[01:31:49] <werdna>	actually I have one
[01:31:49] <brion>	in which case for a new parser function it should have a #
[01:31:56] <brion>	and that should explicitly mentioned in the test title
[01:32:19] <werdna>	ok let me work on this damn password reset first
[01:32:24] <brion>	:D tx
[01:33:32] <brion>	Formatted date with autoformatting disabled <- and of course that would *not* be getting formatted, so it shouldn't say 'Formatted date' :)
[01:34:02] <Splarka>	hey, new parser functions are added all the time without hashes
[01:34:29] <Splarka>	Tim suggested moving the hash to the name, so that it could be aliased with and without hashes
[01:34:52] <Splarka>	then maybe a hash could be phased in for all variables/pfs
[01:34:57] <Splarka>	mmm, progress
[01:35:24] <Splarka>	brion: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46662 and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46630 added loads of unhashed, for example
[01:36:12] <brion>	Splarka: those appear to be extensions of preexisting variables
[01:36:49] <brion>	eg, not new
[01:37:18] <werdna>	ok I think I know what the problem is
[01:37:31] <werdna>	I suspect that he's using $user->getEditToken()
[01:37:37] <werdna>	but of course that isn't the logged-in user
[01:37:39] <werdna>	or something
[01:38:31] <werdna>	and yay, another bug
[01:38:49] <brion>	\o/
[01:43:14] <werdna>	mmm, bugs galore
[01:43:18] <werdna>	fixed 3 so far :P
[01:46:25] <werdna>	ok this is totally confusing
[01:46:36] <werdna>	you're letting people change their own passwords before they're technically logged in
[01:46:50] <kryptos>	Hello people!
[01:47:10] <brion>	heh
[01:48:00] <kryptos>	Can MediaWiki be integrated to WP?
[01:48:01] <werdna>	reverting is looking like a tempting option
[01:48:10] <werdna>	kryptos: how so?
[01:48:25] <kryptos>	I am working on a student community portal
[01:48:36] <flyingparchment>	"can X be integrated into Y" is really a meaningless question, it could mean anything
[01:48:40] <flyingparchment>	you need to describe exactly what you want to do
[01:48:52] <kryptos>	Ok, sorry, english is not my first language
[01:48:55] <brion>	werdna: what was the 'fix' for it in the first place?
[01:49:27] <werdna>	brion: it was letting bureaucrats reset other people's passwords.
[01:49:33] <werdna>	That was what the revision was doing.
[01:49:40] <poke`>	kryptos: So what do you want to be integrated? Do you want to use one combined user database, do you want to read the posts out of the wiki or what exactly are you trying to do?
[01:49:48] <brion>	ah
[01:49:58] <werdna>	maybe I can just revert the cahnges to SpecialUserlogin and leave SpecialResetPass in place.
[01:50:00] <brion>	wacky
[01:50:06] <kryptos>	I want to create a student community site, where WP will be used for the first page, MediaWiki will host information about universities, etc and a forum will be used for discussions, etc
[01:50:25] <werdna>	because he's trying to use the SpecialResetPass interface for the general case of resetting passwords when you log in with a temp password.
[01:50:43] <kryptos>	I want forum members to be able to edit the wiki
[01:51:09] <kryptos>	And some pages from the wiki to be displayed on wordpress
[01:51:17] <brion>	kryptos: http://www.google.com/search?q=authplugin+mediawiki+wordpress&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[01:51:56] <werdna>	oh that's what you meant by WP
[01:52:01] <werdna>	I thought you meant wikipedia
[01:52:19] <kryptos>	no, i meant wordpress :)
[01:52:27] <brion>	:)
[01:52:36] <brion>	mediawiki and wikipedia are pretty well integrated i gues ;)
[01:52:38] <werdna>	brion: can I just revert the SpecialUserlogin changes?
[01:52:43] <kryptos>	i mean, wordpress+mediawiki+smf looks like the easiest approach to my idea
[01:53:03] <poke`>	smf? :P
[01:53:12] <kryptos>	simple machines forum
[01:53:34] <poke`>	o.O never heard of that
[01:54:00] <kryptos>	if you have suggestions, they are more than welcome! :)
[01:54:49] <brion>	werdna: if we can't make the change work, then revert em ya
[01:54:55] <poke`>	well, I would use phpBB - as I worked with phpBB over 5 years and know the code very well. But other people can probably say the same about other forum software ^^
[01:55:09] <kryptos>	no, i mean, suggestions about the whole approach
[01:56:43] <poke`>	ah, okay. Well I don't know if you will really have enough information to need a whole MediaWiki.. If not you could also just use subpages with WordPress and set the rights of the WordPress users so that they can edit it. And then you would only need to integrate the user databases of the forum with WP.
[01:57:21] <werdna>	man I love this shell shortcut
[01:57:22] <werdna>	andrew-macbook:phase3 andrew$ ^48524^47976^
[01:57:22] <werdna>	svn merge -c -47976 includes/specials/SpecialUserlogin.php
[01:58:17] <brion>	heh
[02:01:58] <werdna>	huh, looks like the problem is deeper than just that. We've used an external password reset form for ages
[02:02:17] <werdna>	what rev are we running on wikimedia?
[02:02:27] <cirwin>	47547 (it hink)
[02:02:38] <werdna>	sounds too high
[02:02:43] <cirwin>	47457
[02:02:43] <werdna>	but you're right
[02:02:54] <cirwin>	nah dyslecixed
[02:06:36] <JamesonTai|ROBOT>	can someone help me on how to install a wiki dump into my mediawiki?
[02:07:25] <CIA-60>	03brion * r48779 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: 
[02:07:25] <CIA-60>	Revert r48090 " * Modified wfMsg behaviour to do transform after substituting variables * If this works, wfMsg should now work similarly to wfMsgExt with parsemag"
[02:07:25] <CIA-60>	While having the parser functions in the message strings work is a laudable
[02:07:25] <CIA-60>	goal, the problem here is that it'll *also* execute parser functions it finds in
[02:07:25] <cirwin>	hrm, I'd like to implement a computer-readable API to the dictionary data stored in wiktionary. If I were to create a parser function such as {{#store:translation|en|dog|fr|chein}} or {{#store:synonym|en|hit|bash}} that stored these in a table indexed by language/word - would there be any hope in installing it on WMF?
[02:07:26] <CIA-60>	the replaced parameter strings, which may include, say, comment plaintext
[02:07:28] <CIA-60>	talking *about* parser functions.
[02:07:30] <CIA-60>	A better fix for this is probably to expand the message placeholders when the parameters are passed in to the parser functions.
[02:07:39] <cirwin>	JamesonTai: maintenance/importDump.php ?
[02:08:56] <JamesonTai>	how do i use it
[02:09:01] <JamesonTai>	it says i don't have permission to access it
[02:09:07] <JamesonTai>	lol even though it's my own domain
[02:09:07] <JamesonTai>	lol
[02:10:07] <poke`>	You probably have to use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:AdminSettings.php and access it from the command line
[02:10:48] <poke`>	See also: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_XML_dumps
[02:10:56] <JamesonTai>	was this the database username and password i gave media on initialization?
[02:11:03] <JamesonTai>	or do i need to make a new account
[02:11:45] <poke`>	If that account has full, or a high, access, then it is okay
[02:11:46] <werdna>	brion: ugh, reverting is so SLOW across the pacific
[02:11:49] <werdna>	I'm getting there :P
[02:13:37] <JamesonTai>	well
[02:13:50] <JamesonTai>	if i'm importning the entire wikipedia, then i shouldn't be using Special:Import right?
[02:14:19] <poke`>	If you have a lot time and some hundred other people that help you, no :D
[02:16:22] <JamesonTai>	um
[02:16:27] <JamesonTai>	the AdminSettings.php file
[02:16:30] <JamesonTai>	where would it be?
[02:16:32] <JamesonTai>	it's not in config
[02:16:39] <JamesonTai>	it's not in top dir
[02:16:46] <cirwin>	same place as LocalSettings.php - you need to create one
[02:16:54] <JamesonTai>	oh
[02:16:54] <JamesonTai>	o
[02:16:55] <JamesonTai>	k
[02:17:26] <Mike_lifeguard>	werdna: Is there a known issue with testing filters in /examine?
[02:17:44] <Mike_lifeguard>	I'm getting "doesn't match" when it a) clearly does and b) is logged as matching in the AF log
[02:21:36] <werdna>	need more details
[02:21:41] <werdna>	which filter, what edit?
[02:25:18] <werdna>	brion: ok committing that revert
[02:25:19] <werdna>	FINALLY
[02:25:42] <werdna>	brion: password resets work again, locally.
[02:27:43] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48780 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Revert r47569 and subsequent related revisions. These still break logging in with temporary passwords despite two attempts to fix the issue.
[02:28:07] <werdna>	brion: :)
[02:30:27] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Unable to change temporary password - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17722  +comment (10Andrew)
[02:30:34] <werdna>	brion: does that mean it's scap tiem?
[02:30:58] <brion>	not until i'm done :)
[02:31:05] <werdna>	oh you're still going
[02:31:11] <werdna>	I thought that was the last bit :P
[02:32:06] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48781 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.txt: Rename a test for date autoformatting disabled
[02:32:28] <werdna>	brion: anything else need poking, or should I go back to my preferences?
[02:33:36] <brion>	werdna: anything still fixme other than 48067 which i'm poking at :D
[02:34:18] *Splarka 	was saving screenshots of the scapmap at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki?limit=1200&offset=48616 .. but for the last 5 days it was so boring
[02:34:30] <kurisuto>	After I did the initial configuration of MediaWiki, the page said this: "Move the config/LocalSettings.php file to /etc/mediawiki1.10/LocalSettings.php for normal install..."  I did that, and somehow ended up with symbolic links pointing at each other.  If I had a LocalSettings.php file, it seems to have been lost.  How can I fix this?
[02:36:53] <kurisuto>	Ah- I think I fixed it by submitting the form again.
[02:39:02] <CIA-60>	03brion * r48782 10/trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 
[02:39:03] <CIA-60>	* Follow-up r48067 -- move new Daddio skin from core to extensions.
[02:39:03] <CIA-60>	Can be easily enabled locally with:
[02:39:03] <CIA-60>	* require "$IP/extensions/skins/Daddio/Daddio.php";
[02:40:46] <kurisuto>	OK, I am not clear on this.  Is this the file I'm supposed to move?  /var/lib/mediawiki1.10/config/LocalSettings.php
[02:42:00] <Mike_lifeguard>	werdna: such as http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/examine/log/121
[02:42:12] <Mike_lifeguard>	flagged in the log as tripping filter 7, but /examine says otherwise
[02:43:49] <kurisuto>	I moved /var/lib/mediawiki1.10/config/LocalSettings.php to /etc/mediawiki1.10/LocalSettings.php , but then I got the web page again telling me to set up the Wiki, and I got the blank setup form again.
[02:44:07] <werdna>	weird.
[02:44:27] <kurisuto>	Is that what I'm supposed to do?
[02:45:39] <werdna>	Mike_lifeguard: weird, I entered '1' and it still failed.
[02:45:44] <werdna>	kurisuto: sounds about right
[02:47:19] <kurisuto>	If I don't move the file and I click to proceed to my Wiki anyway, the next web page says, " To complete the installation, move config/LocalSettings.php to the parent directory."
[02:47:33] <werdna>	yes, you're supposed to move the file
[02:47:46] <werdna>	that's why it tells you to
[02:48:00] <kurisuto>	The parent directory of /var/lib/mediawiki1.10/config isn't the same as /etc/mediawiki1.10 , which is where the other page said I should move it to.
[02:48:35] <Mike_lifeguard>	OK, werdna, I also found some strange matches. Such as http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:AbuseLog&details=126
[02:48:44] <kurisuto>	ls -al /usr/share/mediawiki1.10
[02:48:47] <werdna>	well you need to move it into the same dir as your index.php
[02:48:53] <kurisuto>	Ignore that last post.
[02:49:17] <werdna>	AbuseFilter parser error: Data type array is not supported by AbuseFilter
[02:49:19] <werdna>	weird
[02:50:35] <kurisuto>	Ah, I figured it out.  It was because the symlinks had gotten screwed up.
[02:51:40] <Prodego>	werdna: oh noes, I told you abuse filter should support arrays! :P
[02:53:26] <werdna>	naw, it's not that
[02:53:36] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48783 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewExamine.php: Fix examine interface, was broken for a while
[02:53:44] <werdna>	it's the munging of going to JSON and back
[02:53:50] <werdna>	some of the encoding of lazy-loaded vars was broken
[02:54:00] <werdna>	I'd sync that, but brion's gonna scap in a few anyway :F
[02:54:01] <werdna>	:D*
[02:54:18] <Splarka>	"few" epochs?
[02:54:44] <Mike_lifeguard>	When do we get tagging?
[02:54:46] *Mike_lifeguard 	drools
[02:55:37] <werdna>	when I fix the stupid query
[02:56:45] <werdna>	heh, I keep accidentally wiping my preferences
[02:57:55] <werdna>	in theory tagging should be working, but not tag filtering
[02:58:52] <Splarka>	is there anything that can utilize tags then? maybe toolserver tools?
[02:59:33] <werdna>	in theory it should show up on recentchanges
[03:00:20] <Splarka>	and watchlists, but that's after you make the filtering not go all domas on the servers?
[03:00:34] <werdna>	no, filtering is different to display
[03:00:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) linking to anchors in Special Pages, when not English - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17629  (10jidanni)
[03:01:20] <Splarka>	ahh, I meant "utilize" as in make use of, not just show, heh
[03:01:44] <CIA-60>	03dale * r48784 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/specials/MV_SpecialMediaSearch.php: index update
[03:05:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Have a clear, navigable set of user tools links on user pages and user-manipulating special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18144 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brion)
[03:07:36] <werdna>	brion: you mean like the abusefilter navigation?
[03:07:39] <werdna>	similar kinda thing?
[03:08:08] <brion>	possibly, though i hadn't noticed the navigation in great detail yet :D
[03:08:11] <brion>	which is probably a good thing
[03:08:17] <brion>	noticing it usually means it's broken ;)
[03:08:49] <werdna>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog
[03:08:52] <werdna>	see right at the top
[03:09:15] <Prodego>	werdna: navigation is very nice
[03:09:21] <Prodego>	I really like the format
[03:09:39] <brion>	*nod* something like that likely
[03:09:57] <brion>	maybe make it look more like a magic tool bar (oooooh) but basically a bunch o' links that stay fairly consistent and shows you which bit you're on :D
[03:10:19] <werdna>	yeah fair enough
[03:11:07] <Mike_lifeguard>	werdna: When saving filters, is whitespace altered at all?
[03:12:15] <Splarka>	I believe there is an intrinsic problem with <textarea> interpretation across various browsers, that for example eats one line of whitespce each save in Mozilla/firefox but can't really be fixed except by always stripping all top newline whitespace
[03:12:29] <werdna>	Mike_lifeguard: yes, any trailing whitespace is killed
[03:12:34] <Splarka>	so it wouldn't really be abusefilter's fault if it did
[03:12:37] <werdna>	and leading maybe
[03:12:41] <Splarka>	heh, well that would
[03:12:44] <werdna>	it doesn't make a difference though
[03:12:57] <Mike_lifeguard>	does it need to eat leading whitespace?
[03:12:59] <Splarka>	<textarea>\nfoo == <textarea>foo in FF/MZ
[03:13:07] <Mike_lifeguard>	it's nice to be able to indent the first line
[03:13:50] <werdna>	shrug
[03:14:16] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12130
[03:14:48] <brion>	ff eats the line break, but it doesn't eat spaces at start
[03:14:55] <Splarka>	I think one possible solution was to always add <textarea>\n and do two \n\n in the case of one already there
[03:15:01] <Splarka>	but other browsers might interpret that as too many
[03:15:15] <Splarka>	it seems like just a huge design flaw in interpretation of <textarea> in MZ
[03:15:54] *Splarka 	was just using the opening to rant
[03:16:09] <Splarka>	brion: an annoying thing is it makes section edit nulledits sometimes impossible
[03:16:09] <werdna>	a meh
[03:16:22] <brion>	hrm
[03:16:27] <Splarka>	section null-edits are a handy way to null edit big-ass pages when you don't wanna load the whole thing
[03:16:35] <brion>	a section edit will never start out with whitespace though will it?
[03:16:38] <Splarka>	but sections can have leading whitespace that can't be saved in a section edit, but can in a full edit
[03:16:39] <brion>	it starts with the section header line
[03:16:51] <brion>	or...
[03:16:52] <brion>	hmmm
[03:17:00] <Splarka>	hmm
[03:17:04] *Splarka 	looks for his test case
[03:20:59] <Splarka>	hmm, oh, my test case regarding sections was whitespace at the end
[03:21:19] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Splarka/sandbox&diff=232860994&oldid=232860825  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Splarka/sandbox&diff=232860999&oldid=232860994  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Splarka/sandbox&diff=232861026&oldid=232860999 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Splarka/sandbox&diff=232861028&oldid=232861026  <-- all null edits to sections
[03:21:37] <Splarka>	so it would only apply to section zero for the first, and would apply on full view too anyway
[03:26:53] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Diffs on some /details views are stretched horizontally, making the page scroll - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18145 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard)
[03:53:24] <d03boy>	im on mediawiki.org/wiki/Download and I see nothing describing where to download the mediawiki for PHP 5
[03:53:39] <werdna>	latest version of mediawiki works with php5
[03:53:57] <d03boy>	oh wait, there's a huge frickin link at the top
[03:53:59] <d03boy>	didnt even notice it
[03:54:03] <d03boy>	because its not green
[03:54:15] <d03boy>	someone should make that green
[03:55:55] <Splarka>	green?
[03:55:58] <d03boy>	ya
[03:56:06] <d03boy>	it would be easier to see I think
[03:56:45] <CIA-60>	03nad * r48785 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: Add edit summary, minor and watch options same as normal edit screen
[03:56:59] <Splarka>	it would be easier to see in <blink> or as a huge animated gif too
[03:57:14] <d03boy>	do split testing
[03:57:38] <d03boy>	for some reason it just looks like an advertisement or something and I didnt really notice it
[03:57:56] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download
[03:58:03] <Splarka>	there, now it is green until someone has a sense of style and reverts it
[03:58:06] <d03boy>	sweet
[03:58:08] <d03boy>	haha
[03:58:19] <d03boy>	way more noticeable now
[03:58:22] <Splarka>	but now it looks more like an advertisment, and I ignore it more
[03:58:40] <Splarka>	if it was a scrolling series of dancing punching monkeys I'd ignore it even more
[03:58:47] <Splarka>	more noticable != more attention-grabbing
[03:59:11] <d03boy>	well this color and stuff isnt exactly had in mind
[03:59:17] <d03boy>	but I dont really feel like getting into it
[03:59:19] *Splarka 	wonders if green is the code for "benevolent/relevant" in the internet ad world
[03:59:35] <Splarka>	so fix it, it is a wiki
[04:32:06] <aboostani>	does anyone know how to configure mediawiki to stream recent changes to an irc channel?
[04:33:18] <Splarka>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Simple_IRC_RC_Bot
[04:33:52] <aboostani>	thanks Splarka 
[04:37:42] <Marybelle>	The green button on the Download page looks much better.
[04:42:51] <Splarka>	bah, who keeps moving these pages, heh
[04:42:54] <Splarka>	ahh well
[05:18:40] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48786 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilterVariableHolder.php: Add hook to AFPComputedVariable::compute() so extensions can add lazy-loaded variables.
[05:18:54] <chole>	hi, my name is soledad and I am new here. This is the first time I enter here
[05:19:55] <charitwo>	don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[05:22:04] <chole>	ok. I want to change the look & feel of a wiki and I want to do something as I see in the epistemowikia, a page from spain
[05:22:48] <chole>	and I dont know how to do it
[05:23:11] <charitwo>	are you any good with CSS?
[05:23:26] <charitwo>	!css
[05:23:26] --mwbot--	To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration>
[05:23:30] <chole>	No, I dont know what this it
[05:24:15] <charitwo>	that's the way to customize look and feel
[05:26:18] <chole>	I am not developer, I am a user and It's very difficult for me to understand. Instead of that, I am going to read what you just send me
[05:28:34] <charitwo>	well
[05:28:38] <charitwo>	if you're not a sysop
[05:28:50] <charitwo>	you can do [[Special:Mypage/monobook.css]] 
[05:30:20] <chole>	ok, thank you, I want to do something like this http://campusvirtual.unex.es/cala/epistemowikia/index.php?title=Portada
[05:30:37] <chole>	Is this css?
[05:32:56] <charitwo>	chole: that looks like the webmaster updated the skin file itself
[05:33:17] <chole>	ok, thank you very much
[06:00:49] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48787 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Tweak r47992 to use instead of a new configuration variable. Also moved its precedence higher to make its behaviour more logical.
[06:03:14] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48788 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Missed hunk
[06:12:14] <JamesonTai>	anyone around? 
[06:16:09] <Nikerabbit>	meow
[06:36:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Include revision number at beginning in Special:Code page title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18146 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (brion)
[06:55:19] <Marybelle>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Str_%E2%89%A5_len
[06:56:00] <brion>	that's really quite clever :)
[06:56:18] <brion>	of course it'd be much easier to implement natively
[06:56:44] <Marybelle>	It's amazing the type of hacks people will come up with.
[07:01:49] <werdna>	brion: oh noes, you like it :P
[07:02:07] <werdna>	brion: we should make the abuse filter parser language embeddable in pages.
[07:02:15] *werdna 	really hopes brion doesn't like that idea.
[07:02:18] <brion>	hehehe
[07:04:19] *Splarka 	throws string functions at brion
[07:05:02] <Splarka>	you should either spray the ants or give them some sugar, what you're doing now is just holding a magnifying glass over a few of them and giggling as they squirm
[07:06:10] <werdna>	how I would love to spray the ants in my house
[07:06:14] <werdna>	they're pissing me off
[07:06:33] <AaronSchulz>	brion: still up??? ;p
[07:06:56] <werdna>	yeah he's doing your code review :P
[07:07:04] *brion 	points AaronSchulz at http://identi.ca/notice/2993509
[07:07:07] <werdna>	im in ur svn, revertin ur commits
[07:18:06] <CIA-60>	03raymond * r48789 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messages.inc: Follow up r48780: Remove message from maintenance script too
[07:29:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Faster logic for Abuse Filter parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18147 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (rohde)
[07:30:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Faster logic for Abuse Filter parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18147  (10rohde)
[07:33:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Faster logic for Abuse Filter parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18147  (10Andrew)
[07:35:12] <Nikerabbit>	brion: I didn't quite get what was the problem with wfMsg from your description
[07:35:43] <brion>	Nikerabbit: try say wfMsg('pagetitle', '{{SERVERNAME}}')
[07:36:02] <brion>	it's being passed in plain text
[07:36:08] <brion>	but it gets parsed
[07:36:31] <brion>	eg parameters text doesn't get passed through safely
[07:36:43] <Nikerabbit>	is there many instances where that is an issue?
[07:37:25] <brion>	potentially anything that accepts user input for HTML or plaintext output. i haven't done a full survey
[07:37:50] <TimStarling>	don't you hate it when you need some really really basic data from the API, but there's no way to get it?
[07:38:08] <brion>	for raw html outputs that might actually be a security issue -- even htmlspecialchars()ing the parameter could result in expansion of a template which contains arbitrary html
[07:38:13] <brion>	heh
[07:38:50] <werdna>	simple POC:
[07:39:20] <Splarka>	Tim: {{somakeroanfixit}}, he's very easy... offhand, what data?
[07:39:29] <Nikerabbit>	brion: but isn't wfMsgNoTrans just for that?
[07:39:56] <TimStarling>	$wgArticlePath and wfWikiID()
[07:40:13] <TimStarling>	it's in the javascript variables, but I don't fancy the idea of getting it from there
[07:40:14] <Splarka>	oh, really really /really/ basic
[07:40:17] <brion>	Nikerabbit: then you can't use magic word variables in your message
[07:40:22] <werdna>	I think that's action=query&prop=siteinfo or something
[07:40:33] <TimStarling>	yeah, doesn't have it
[07:40:36] <werdna>	Nikerabbit: use wfMsgExt( '', 'parseinline')?
[07:40:38] <Splarka>	Tim: how about an api module for javascript variables
[07:40:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Faster short circuit and bugfix for check syntax errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18148 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (rohde)
[07:40:52] <Nikerabbit>	werdna: we are talking about making wfMsg sane :)
[07:41:06] <TimStarling>	it just has random useless information like what the default timezone is
[07:41:21] <Nikerabbit>	brion: so you want to use magic words but don't want them to be parsed if from user input?
[07:41:26] <werdna>	{{urldecode:%3Cscript+type%3D%22text%2Fjavscript%22%3Ealert%28%22O+HAI%22%29%3B%3C%2Fscript%3E}} :)
[07:41:26] <Splarka>	list=jsvariables&jvtitle=Foo&jvaction=edit&jvuseskin=monobook&jvoldid=123&jvdiff=foo etc, and other things that can change them
[07:41:47] <brion>	Nikerabbit: i doubt i would ever want them to be parsed *in* the parameter values
[07:41:47] <Splarka>	(ew)
[07:41:59] <brion>	can you think of a circumstance where one would?
[07:43:06] <Nikerabbit>	dunno, mostly they are just numbers and page or usernames
[07:44:22] <wikibugs>	03(RESOLVED) Invalid Color Values in Style Sheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18141  +comment (10danny.b)
[07:44:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788  (10danny.b)
[07:44:40] <Nikerabbit>	but I don't see any way to fix that
[07:45:17] <Nikerabbit>	we can't use wfEscapeWikitext, nor use place holders or things like {{PLURAL}} doesn't work
[07:45:37] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48790 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php CodeRevisionView.php): (bug 18146) Include revision number at beginning in Special:Code page title
[07:46:00] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Include revision number at beginning in Special:Code page title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18146  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[07:46:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Faster short circuit and bugfix for check syntax errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18148  (10Andrew)
[07:48:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Detect and show related revisions in code review - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18149 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (brion)
[07:51:16] <charitwo>	hey AaronSchulz 
[07:52:13] <CIA-60>	03philip * r48791 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Update the Chinese conversion tables.
[07:52:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Faster logic for Abuse Filter parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18147  (10rohde)
[07:52:51] <AaronSchulz>	yo
[07:54:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Allow restriction of access to Special:Code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17984  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[07:54:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Faster logic for Abuse Filter parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18147  (10Andrew)
[07:54:23] <TimStarling>	$data['articlepath'] = $GLOBALS['wgArticlePath'];
[07:54:25] <TimStarling>	:P
[07:55:07] *TimStarling 	issmashingwordstogetherunderprotest
[07:55:24] <TimStarling>	onlyforthesakeofconsistencywiththisawfulapiconvention
[07:55:44] <EivindJ>	Good morning y'all
[07:56:00] <EivindJ>	I struggled with userOptions yesterday :S
[07:56:27] <EivindJ>	I've changed my MediaWiki skin, but the user preferences to all users are still stucked at monobook
[07:56:45] <EivindJ>	Only new ones and anonyms get the new skin by default
[07:56:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Faster short circuit and bugfix for check syntax errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18148  (10rohde)
[07:56:57] <TimStarling>	sucks to be you
[07:57:01] <EivindJ>	Anyone with a good solution?
[07:57:02] <Laaknor>	:P
[07:57:06] <Splarka>	how about scriptpath too?
[07:57:07] <EivindJ>	Not really (:
[07:57:08] <TimStarling>	upgrade to MW 1.16
[07:57:24] <werdna>	It's fixed in the preferences-work branch.
[07:57:25] <EivindJ>	TimStarling: Will that solve it?
[07:57:27] <AaronSchulz>	heh
[07:57:34] <werdna>	elvthere is no MW 1.16
[07:57:38] <TimStarling>	variantarticlepath... really pushing me to my limit here
[07:57:40] <EivindJ>	Laaknor: Du som kan mer eller mindre alt ...
[07:58:23] <Splarka>	you could disable monobook completely, heh
[07:58:30] <EivindJ>	Splarka: How?
[07:58:52] <EivindJ>	Just by renaming/deleting the files?
[07:58:55] <Splarka>	take it out back behind the shed, tell it he's a good boy, and shoot him when he's looking away
[07:59:07] <EivindJ>	(:
[07:59:09] *Marybelle 	glares.
[07:59:19] <Splarka>	heh
[07:59:25] <werdna>	TimStarling: sounds like you're doing some diffcult work
[07:59:49] <EivindJ>	$wgSkipSkin doesn't seem to work on monobook
[08:00:03] <Laaknor>	EivindJ: $wgAllowUserSkin = false; ?
[08:00:37] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration#Set_a_Default_Skin_for_a_Wiki
[08:00:51] <Splarka>	userOptions.php
[08:01:31] <Splarka>	you can't skip the default skin
[08:01:45] <Splarka>	set $wgDefaultSkin to yours and then it should be skippable
[08:02:30] <Splarka>	(unless someone broke it)
[08:02:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Faster logic for Abuse Filter parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18147  (10rohde)
[08:04:10] <EivindJ>	Ok, well, defaultskin is already set to my new one ... so all new users get it
[08:04:33] <EivindJ>	but it doesn't helt setting AllowUserSkin to false
[08:04:37] <EivindJ>	*help
[08:06:56] <EivindJ>	ok, userOptions.php is the right place I reckon
[08:07:10] <EivindJ>	but I don't know much about PHP commands
[08:08:38] <TimStarling>	EivindJ: you need to update all the user rows to set the skin to be the new default
[08:09:21] <CIA-60>	03raymond * r48792 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Fix per comment in r48720: Remove style from code and use same table stylings as other tables.
[08:09:41] <TimStarling>	update user set user_options=REPLACE(user_options, 'monobook', 'your_new_skin');
[08:10:12] <TimStarling>	then restart memcached if you're using it
[08:11:26] <EivindJ>	where is that to be done? user_options=REPLACE(user_options, 'monobook', 'your_new_skin');
[08:12:19] <werdna>	in mysql, and it's update user set user_options=REPLACE(user_options, 'monobook', 'your_new_skin');
[08:12:36] <TimStarling>	if you're on shared hosting, you'll need to use phpMyAdmin
[08:12:50] <TimStarling>	if you have shell access, you'll use the mysql command line client
[08:13:13] <EivindJ>	Ah!
[08:13:32] <EivindJ>	I suddenly understood something :)
[08:13:39] <EivindJ>	I'll give it a try ... thanks a lot!
[08:14:01] <Splarka>	darn, I was hoping it'd be "monobook /is/ the perfect skin and I should just use that"
[08:14:34] <EivindJ>	:P
[08:15:00] <EivindJ>	I like monobook .... it's the others that doesnt
[08:18:59] <brion>	monobook is the worst skin, except for all the others
[08:19:56] <werdna>	daddio looks promising
[08:26:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Invalid Color Values in Style Sheet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18141  (10JSchulz_4587)
[08:28:49] <brion>	AaronSchulz: dude you still up? ahhh, the sleep schedules of youth :)
[08:28:57] <brion>	i'm gonna be dead in the daytime tomorrow :P
[08:29:08] <AaronSchulz>	I already napped a few hours
[08:29:41] <AaronSchulz>	brion: college students don't sleep, they just nap as needed so they don't pass out
[08:30:29] <brion>	hehe
[08:33:56] <p858snake>	AaronSchulz: what do you call the section after they got blasted at the pub, surely that dosn't count as napping?
[08:33:57] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48793 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevision.php: populate code_relations table
[08:34:23] <AaronSchulz>	p858snake: hmm, we call it "trashed" over here :)
[08:35:04] <AaronSchulz>	"blasted" would be like extreme hookah
[08:36:13] <AaronSchulz>	brion: code_relations doesn't have a to,from index
[08:36:17] <AaronSchulz>	give me a break :)
[08:37:08] <brion>	hah
[08:37:09] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48794 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Missing part of another commit undeprecating the PasswordReset extension
[08:40:47] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48795 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (archives/code_relations_index.sql codereview.sql): Added key ( cf_repo_id, cf_to, cf_from )
[08:42:42] <kraut>	moin
[08:46:36] <CIA-60>	03brion * r48796 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinksUpdate.php: 
[08:46:36] <CIA-60>	Revert r47530 "Fix bug 17571, now page1 would add to both cat1 and cat2."
[08:46:37] <CIA-60>	Code is unclear; needs cleanup before adding more instances of this :D
[08:47:15] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Slight tweak to category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17571  +comment (10brion)
[09:12:31] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48797 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuth.i18n.php: Add centralauth-globalgroupperms-nogroups message
[09:20:41] <auzigog>	Can someone explain why my table isn't sortable when i have specified that it should be: http://wiki.auzigog.com/Amazing_90s_Music_Playlist
[09:21:28] <werdna>	that's a cute skin btw
[09:21:54] <auzigog>	thanks! it's one of my favorites. it adds a nice touch to a mediawiki installation
[09:22:19] <werdna>	just poking at it...
[09:23:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Account creation throttle - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18150 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (lastword)
[09:23:40] <werdna>	I can't see anything offhand that might be broken, except you might want to upgrade to 1.14.0
[09:24:03] <auzigog>	hmm. don't really have the time. i guess i'll just pass for now. that's unfortunate, though
[09:24:15] <werdna>	wait around, somebody else might know
[09:24:18] *werdna 	pokes Splarka 
[09:24:26] <CIA-60>	03brion * r48798 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/EditPage.php): 
[09:24:26] <CIA-60>	Revert r47619 "Add an ID if 'missingsummary' is triggered to allow styling of the summary line"
[09:24:26] <CIA-60>	Invalid HTML -- an element may have only one id value, they're not like classes.
[09:24:47] <Splarka>	ow!
[09:24:50] <Splarka>	hmm
[09:25:04] <Splarka>	wikibits is loading, so that's always a good sign
[09:25:13] <auzigog>	lame
[09:25:13] <auzigog>	http://wiki.auzigog.com/index.php?title=Amazing_90s_Music_Playlist&useskin=monobook
[09:25:18] <auzigog>	it's the skin. somehow.
[09:25:24] <Splarka>	it shouldn't care about skins
[09:25:24] <werdna>	wikibits seems to have the sortable code
[09:25:25] <werdna>	ah
[09:25:28] <Splarka>	var tables = getElementsByClassName(document, "table", "sortable");
[09:25:36] <Splarka>	yah
[09:25:38] <Splarka>	it is the skin
[09:25:48] <Splarka>	your skin breaks the whole wikibits because you omit variables ^_^
[09:25:52] <Splarka>	Error: wgBreakFrames is not definedSource File: http://wiki.auzigog.com/skins/common/wikibits.jsLine: 100
[09:25:59] <werdna>	ahhh
[09:26:01] <werdna>	lame
[09:26:05] <Splarka>	yes, it is lame
[09:26:13] <auzigog>	interesting. is there an easy solution or would it involve a ton of hacking?
[09:26:16] <Splarka>	someone should fix wikibits to not break like that, it is easy
[09:26:26] <Splarka>	auzigog: make a proper skin ^_^
[09:26:41] <Splarka>	sounds rude, but skins need the javascript variables for javascript
[09:26:46] <auzigog>	haha. other than that? do you know the fix? just a couple lines of code perhaps?
[09:26:47] <werdna>	it's not his
[09:26:52] <auzigog>	yeah. i didn't make it
[09:26:52] <werdna>	came from http://mediawiki2u.com/2008/05/clean-mediawiki-template/#more-70
[09:26:55] <Splarka>	ew, even more lame
[09:26:56] <Raymond_>	brion: about your last revert: any objections if I add a class for this case?
[09:27:06] <brion>	a class sounds fine
[09:27:10] <Raymond_>	thks
[09:27:13] <Splarka>	damn
[09:27:21] <Splarka>	wikibits.js should just work when it is included anywhere, yknow
[09:27:32] <auzigog>	that would be the hope, anyway
[09:27:43] <Splarka>	all the global variable checks should be if(window.variableNameGoesWhere) first
[09:27:58] <Splarka>	heck, it'd even work in IE5 then, I believe
[09:28:51] <Splarka>	</rant>
[09:29:06] <auzigog>	heh. so what do i need to add for it to work?
[09:29:12] <werdna>	Need to add this --> 		<?php print Skin::makeGlobalVariablesScript( $this->data ); ?>
[09:29:17] <werdna>	somewhere in the head section
[09:29:28] <auzigog>	perfect. above or below wikibits?
[09:29:53] <werdna>	above I guess
[09:29:56] <Splarka>	hmm
[09:30:07] <Splarka>	maybe werd could be so kind as to softify that in wikibits
[09:30:08] <Splarka>	if (wgBreakFrames) {
[09:30:16] <CIA-60>	03brion * r48799 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthHooks.php: 
[09:30:16] <CIA-60>	Revert r47521 "(bug 15625) Make login/logout icons link to the projects in question :-)"
[09:30:16] <CIA-60>	In many cases this would pop over to different languages unexpectedly, not really ideal.
[09:30:23] <Splarka>	if (window.wgBreakFrames) {
[09:30:24] <werdna>	monobook puts it directly
[09:30:24] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) CentralAuth global login images should link to respective projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15625  +comment (10brion)
[09:30:25] <Splarka>	I believe
[09:30:36] <auzigog>	perfect, werdna. that works
[09:30:36] <auzigog>	http://wiki.auzigog.com/index.php?title=Amazing_90s_Music_Playlist
[09:30:38] <Splarka>	or for safety
[09:30:44] <Splarka>	if (window.wgBreakFrames && wgBreakFrames) {
[09:30:57] <werdna>	auzigog: styling is awful, but ah well
[09:31:08] <auzigog>	ugly, but it works. :)
[09:31:11] <auzigog>	i'll style it
[09:32:17] <auzigog>	Splarka, werdna, thanks for your help. You guys are always awesome to work with when I find my way in here. :)
[09:32:36] <werdna>	yvw
[09:32:46] <werdna>	That skin is awesome, we should think about adding it to core
[09:32:59] <auzigog>	you should. it could use some cleaning up
[09:33:14] <auzigog>	i disapprove of the table layout. and it could be made more accessible, but it couldn't hurt to throw it in. :)
[09:33:42] <auzigog>	cheers!
[09:34:39] <Splarka>	it puts the globals in its skin or else it gets the hose again
[09:35:51] *Splarka 	ponders opening a bug for "Wikibits.js should fallback to not assploding when no js variables are defined" with various reasons such as "can be included anywhere for fun tool happy time" and "can be used on noob skins without exclusing javascript"
[09:36:07] <Splarka>	^excluding too
[09:38:14] <saper>	Splarka: Are you using non-CSS browser sometime?
[09:39:36] <saper>	The only things that bugs me is that I don't see red links marked with "?" when using w3m. Since this was converted to the CSS - it does no longer work.
[09:40:15] <Splarka>	yah, that's a cheap hack
[09:40:35] <Splarka>	I don't use it, but several preferences are done purely in CSS, to keep page content a bit more static
[09:41:13] <saper>	Well fine, w3m or lynx are perfectly usable (even for Commons heh) except for that
[09:41:50] *Splarka 	accidentally edited in lynx once, because he didn't know how to tab over to 'preview'
[09:42:29] <Splarka>	you could possibly write an extension I guess
[09:42:32] <saper>	caching is a good reason to keep this stuff static
[09:42:37] <Splarka>	might be a bit expensive
[09:42:51] <Splarka>	(just for logged in users with that pref that is)
[09:42:53] <saper>	Splarka: I think that classic and simple skins could use non-CSS "?"
[09:43:11] <saper>	since they are mostly non-CSS anyway
[09:43:42] <Marybelle>	!ping
[09:43:42] --mwbot--	Pong.
[09:43:44] <mitixi>	hi, we use sphinx for searching on our mediawiki implementation. is there an extension to log search phrases and make some sort of statistics? I found Extension:SearchLog but I do not know if it works with sphinx...
[09:45:49] <Splarka>	hmmm
[09:45:50] <Splarka>			if( $wgUser->getOption( 'highlightbroken' ) ) {
[09:45:50] <Splarka>				$s .= "a.new, #quickbar a.new { color: #CC2200; }\n";
[09:46:03] <Splarka>	and then the else is a bunch of :after declarations, right in Skin.php
[09:46:25] <Splarka>	the alternate is to check if( $wgUser->getOption( 'highlightbroken' ) (after checking if the user is logged in) on each parse
[09:46:44] <saper>	Splarka: the code needs to be fixed anyway, since once you switch to "?" the display in the preferences window is wrong
[09:46:46] <Splarka>	I think that is probably prohibitively computational for a core feature, even in the alt skins
[09:47:13] <Splarka>	saper: that happens with old prefs nobody uses the non-default for, heh
[09:47:20] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48800 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php CodeRevision.php CodeRevisionView.php): 
[09:47:20] <CIA-60>	* Display follow-up revisions
[09:47:20] <CIA-60>	* Minor cleanups/line breaks
[09:48:30] <Splarka>	is there anything that can be done non-inline for such links other than changing the html (in lynx/w3m)?
[09:48:43] <Splarka>	do they have any tiny little bit of css/js support?
[09:48:45] <saper>	That's all that https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5366 is about
[09:48:47] <saper>	no
[09:48:53] <saper>	well w3m colors the links
[09:49:11] <saper>	but I think that's based on tag (SRCs are green, HREFs are blue)
[09:49:51] <saper>	I wonder about screen readers, only Jaws has some CSS and I wonder if it supports advanced CSS like this
[09:50:13] <saper>	so it might be actually an accessibility issue
[09:50:27] <Splarka>	you might pokle Tim about the feasability of html changing for prefs, but... sounds WONTFIXy
[09:50:46] <saper>	HTML changing for prefs?
[09:51:02] <saper>	you mean 'highlightbroken' option?
[09:51:27] <Splarka>	yah
[09:51:58] <Splarka>	I mean, some is done, like TOC generation and section edit links, and of course the UI, but not much in the actual content itself
[09:52:33] <saper>	well so there is no caching argument, right?
[09:52:50] <Splarka>	not really, for logged in users anyway
[09:53:10] <Splarka>	hmm, as an extension it could probably just use http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/LinkBegin
[09:53:29] <saper>	My unfounded guess is that "?" done via CSS is useless. Those who really need it, don't have it. Others use the default.
[09:53:47] <AaronSchulz>	brion: hmm, maybe you can sync code review
[09:54:00] <beniamino>	i've just upgraded my mediawiki installation from an old version (18 months old?) to the latest 1.14, and get the error 'you requested the mysql5-binary schema, but the exisiting database has the mysql4 schema'. then, all the non-ascii characters in my wiki are corrupt. how can i upgrade the mysql database to the mysql5 schema?
[09:54:33] <Splarka>	hmm, well maybe the ? should always be in by default, totally suppressed in print/mobile/view css of course...
[09:54:37] <beniamino>	(i upgraded by dumping the database, moving to a new computer, re-inserting the database and then running the mediawiki setup process)
[09:54:43] <Splarka>	although that is a bit of a silly indicator for "broken link"
[09:55:56] <saper>	I like it since I started with c2.com wiki. But that's me being dinosaur.
[09:56:11] <Splarka>	http://toolserver.org/~nikola/grep.php?pattern=%5E.*%5C%3F%24&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia&ns=0
[09:56:30] <Splarka>	heh, lot of song titles
[10:01:29] <brion>	AaronSchulz: i'll peek :D
[10:01:51] <AaronSchulz>	don't forget that index change and to run svnImport MediaWiki 0
[10:03:42] <brion>	:D
[10:06:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Problem creating image thumbnails in 1.11 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12970  (10brion)
[10:11:47] <CIA-60>	03raymond * r48801 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/EditPage.php): Add a class if 'missingsummary' is triggered to allow styling of the summary line
[10:19:55] <werdna>	brion: good god, you're still at it?
[10:20:02] <brion>	aye
[10:21:05] <werdna>	:(
[10:21:08] <werdna>	how much left?
[10:21:28] <brion>	AaronSchulz: follow-up display looks great :D
[10:22:39] <brion>	werdna: fewer than before :D
[10:22:52] <werdna>	haha
[10:22:54] <brion>	i ain't used to being up this late sober anymore, it's hard to tell ;)
[10:23:00] <werdna>	well let me know if you need anything
[10:24:23] <brion>	will do :D
[10:24:54] <brion>	if i'm still at this when you go to bed, please have me euthanized
[10:25:54] <werdna>	hehe aww
[10:26:09] <werdna>	i won't be in bed for another 5 hours or so
[10:29:24] <ThomasV>	wow, the scapmap looks different from yesterday :-P
[10:31:00] <brion>	the scapmap is an exciting world
[10:31:01] <brion>	ooooooh
[10:31:05] <brion>	a live scapmap would be fun ;)
[10:31:08] <brion>	watch the colors change!
[10:31:12] <brion>	just like defragging win95
[10:31:16] <werdna>	can i see the scap map?
[10:31:18] <brion>	about as slow too ;)
[10:31:23] <ThomasV>	lol
[10:31:24] <brion>	werdna: turn on the gadget in your prefs
[10:31:32] <brion>	and hit 'overview' tab when looking at the revision list
[10:31:49] <ThomasV>	defragging win95 might be slower, though
[10:32:00] <beniamino>	brion: are you this brion? <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13675>
[10:32:08] <werdna>	oh cool
[10:32:24] <brion>	beniamino: that looks suspiciously like me yes
[10:32:39] <brion>	we don't currently have an auto schema updater for that built in :(
[10:32:52] <brion>	there are probably some notes with advice on manual conversion floating around
[10:33:25] <brion>	if you don't want ot mess with that just yet, honestly, i recommend sticking with the mysql 4 compat mode -- just be aware that you may need to do the funky charset thing for mysqldump to not eat non-ascii chars
[10:33:34] <beniamino>	:-) do you have any idea where i might find those notes? alternatively, if mysqldump 'seems to work', do you think i should just stick with mysql
[10:33:36] <beniamino>	..
[10:33:38] <beniamino>	too late :-)
[10:33:45] <brion>	:D
[10:33:51] <beniamino>	what is the funky charset thing?
[10:34:29] <brion>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki#Character_set
[10:35:21] <beniamino>	awesome. thanks! 
[10:35:29] <brion>	:D
[10:35:39] <brion>	offhand not seeing conversion notes around, but that should hold you for now :D
[10:36:32] <beniamino>	(my wife's whole research career is in her wiki, which i look after. i'm terrified of messing it up!) yep, that will definitely keep me in business until an upgrade tool appears
[10:37:25] <brion>	heh
[10:37:30] <brion>	keep it well backed up :D
[10:38:19] <brion>	hmm
[10:38:43] <brion>	AaronSchulz: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/48793 <- i think this'll only pick up the first rXXX reference
[10:38:51] <brion>	iirc you need a preg_match_alll to get multiple matches?
[10:39:56] <werdna>	whoa trippy
[10:40:01] <werdna>	the strikethrough
[10:40:15] <brion>	i'm not sure i like the strikethrough; makes the text harder to read
[10:40:36] <werdna>	yeah
[10:41:47] <Splarka>	ack
[10:41:48] <Splarka>	heh
[10:42:18] <Splarka>	I made you a scapmap but you broked it, you removed <td class="TablePager_col_selectforchange"> for people who can't use it
[10:42:27] *Splarka 	fix
[10:46:17] <ThomasV>	Splarka: is scapmap broken ? I cannot see it anymore; it worked a few minutes ago
[10:48:53] <Splarka>	yeah, someone scapped, heh
[10:49:03] <Splarka>	oh the irony
[10:49:25] <Splarka>	the column class="TablePager_col_selectforchange" was removed which screwed up the count, I'll get them by class name instead
[10:49:34] <Splarka>	(removed for non-coders that is)
[10:51:38] <brion>	http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/03/mediawikis-scap-map/
[10:51:49] <brion>	heh
[10:52:10] <brion>	it works for me...
[10:52:18] <Splarka>	yes yes, but you suck ^_^
[10:52:32] <brion>	\o/
[10:53:43] <ThomasV>	anyway, the map is not the territory...
[10:53:47] *Splarka 	copy pastes really ugly class names, like TablePager_col_comments
[10:53:50] <ThomasV>	lunchtime here
[10:55:56] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48802 10/trunk/extensions/ (AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php PasswordReset/OBSOLETE): Remove OBSOLETE file for PasswordReset
[10:56:29] <werdna>	ooops
[10:57:38] <brion>	oops?
[10:57:58] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48803 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php: Revert half-done patch from r48802
[11:01:41] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Clean up duplicate code between Special:WantedPages, WantedFiles, WantedTemplates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18151 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (brion)
[11:02:51] *Splarka 	feels blogged about
[11:04:19] <brion>	yer famous
[11:04:40] <CIA-60>	03nad * r48804 10/trunk/extensions/EmailPage/ (EmailPage.php EmailPage_body.php): format code and remove hash from bodyContent id
[11:05:23] <Splarka>	damn you getElementsByClassName, make sense
[11:05:27] *Splarka 	stabs
[11:05:40] <Splarka>	bah, faster to just iterate
[11:06:38] <brion>	heh
[11:06:49] <brion>	jquery is GREAT for this shit
[11:07:16] <brion>	$(".TablePager_col_comments").each(function(item) {....});
[11:09:11] <Splarka>	ew, heh
[11:09:21] <Splarka>	might as well just do it in php by then
[11:09:30] <Splarka>	hey, you added more paths info
[11:09:35] *Splarka 	ponders abusing that <div>
[11:10:34] <brion>	dude, check out my note-taking app ui mockup -- http://leuksman.com/mockups/notarista/ <- fetches pages out of wikitech wiki via ajax as a demo data set, populates the item list, fetches text and pops it in a wysiwyg editor
[11:10:38] <brion>	all js w/ jquery :D
[11:11:53] <werdna>	brion: needs to respond to keyboard input
[11:12:05] <brion>	all in good time ;)
[11:12:24] <brion>	alas it's my spare time project so.... i gotta work first ;)
[11:12:44] <werdna>	haha
[11:12:46] <brion>	also i need to figure out why the ajax page content load fails in firefox 3.1 beta :P
[11:12:51] <werdna>	you have spare time now?
[11:12:57] *werdna 	cracks the whip
[11:12:58] <brion>	sssh don't tell anyone
[11:14:09] *werdna 	tries to figure out how he horribly broke the abuse filter parser (in my working copy)
[11:14:15] *Splarka 	thinks he unbroke it
[11:17:52] <Splarka>	ThomasV: should work now (unless you're using the gadget)
[11:17:58] <GerardM_>	brion have a look at this ... http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslationStats&preview=1&width=1200&height=400&days=60&scale=days&count=edits&language=&group=
[11:18:12] <GerardM_>	the number of localisations is dropping
[11:18:35] <werdna>	GerardM_: it's 4:30am BST and he's doing code review :)
[11:18:35] <Splarka>	brion: sync http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-scapmap.js&action=edit  with http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Splarka/scapmap.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript plz
[11:18:51] <Splarka>	s/brion/werdna/
[11:19:11] <Splarka>	"Why aren't you a sysop?" "because I don't care enough"
[11:19:21] *Splarka 	nips('bud')
[11:19:24] <GerardM_>	We had people say that they were going back to local work ..
[11:19:37] <GerardM_>	werdna .. I was wondering where he was
[11:19:45] <werdna>	Splarka: you are now
[11:20:09] <brion>	Splarka: updated
[11:20:12] <Splarka>	yknow, the only right I ever asked for was +sysop on test.wp
[11:20:27] <Splarka>	I was rape-sysoped on Uncyclopedia and force +rollbacked on en.wp
[11:20:44] <Splarka>	and set bureaucrat twice on test.wp, heh
[11:20:47] <brion>	hehe
[11:21:15] <Splarka>	ta brion, and I am not sure if I should thank Werdna
[11:21:27] <brion>	don't. it'll go to his head
[11:26:40] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki?limit=1400  looks pretty
[11:28:52] <brion>	i think you ate my firefox :(
[11:29:06] <Splarka>	heh
[11:29:08] <werdna>	nom nom nom
[11:29:12] <Splarka>	it takes mine about 20 seconds to get through that
[11:29:19] <Splarka>	you shoulda seen it with 5000
[11:29:35] <Splarka>	all the more reason to do it proper
[11:30:55] <brion>	ugh, might be the horrible checkbox setup. will need to investigate that later
[11:31:06] <cirwin>	is it possible to create the initial tables without using the /config/ page?
[11:31:38] *Splarka 	does it with proper dom, but with innerHTML it might be much faster
[11:31:58] <poke`>	hey
[11:34:14] <brion>	Splarka: popping up the overview is nice and fast; it's loading the initial page that's uggy for me :)
[11:34:25] <Splarka>	well, that's what I meant
[11:35:06] <Splarka>	it brute force goes through every <tr> and checks the class on every <td> (faster than getElementsByClassName), iterates over every node therein, gets the text nodes only, smooshes together, returns that, (for each cell!)
[11:35:15] <Splarka>	then creates an <a> and appends it to the top div
[11:35:15] <CIA-60>	03brion * r48805 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Title.php): 
[11:35:15] <CIA-60>	Revert r47755 "(bug 16899) DISPLAYTITLE should allow Arabic and Persian harakats"
[11:35:15] <CIA-60>	This doesn't seem to allow things in DISPLAYTITLE, but rather forbid things in regular titles. Reasoning behind it is unclear.
[11:35:46] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) DISPLAYTITLE should allow Arabic and Persian harakats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16899  +comment (10brion)
[11:35:57] <Splarka>	when it could just grab the tr.innerHTML and regex it instead (sigh) probably faster, and build a list of <a> as a string and pop it in at once
[11:36:15] <Splarka>	oh
[11:36:27] <Splarka>	well, then that isn't what I meant, heh
[11:36:52] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48806 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (AbuseFilter.i18n.php AbuseFilter.parser.php tests/string.t): 
[11:36:52] <CIA-60>	Abuse Filter Parser:
[11:36:52] <CIA-60>	* Efficiency -- use /A instead of PREG_OFFSET_CAPTURE and comparing offsets.
[11:36:52] <CIA-60>	* Expand error messages to enhance debugging.
[11:36:52] <CIA-60>	* General code quality
[11:36:54] *Splarka 	just read what you said
[11:37:14] <Splarka>	if your browser can't handle 1600, maybe that table is a bit too complex? 
[11:37:39] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Faster logic for Abuse Filter parser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18147  +comment (10Andrew)
[11:40:18] <Splarka>	werdna: speaking of which, that tablepager looks sad with only one sort index, is there any way to index it (and make it sortable) by author, number of comments, status?
[11:47:39] <CIA-60>	03brion * r48807 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: release note lines for r47771, r47773, r47776
[11:48:50] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48808 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php: Faster brace short-circuit in Abuse Filter Parser. Patch by Robert Rohde.
[11:49:04] <brion>	ok i've got two reds and six yellows left :D
[11:49:11] <werdna>	yaaay
[11:49:22] <werdna>	and then you need me around in case shit blows up? :P
[11:49:39] <brion>	\o/
[11:49:42] <brion>	how late you gonna be round?
[11:51:31] <werdna>	another 2 hours, at least
[11:51:49] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Faster short circuit and bugfix for check syntax errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18148  +comment (10Andrew)
[11:51:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unify access to customized and non-customized system messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18124  (10support)
[11:54:04] <brion>	wheee
[11:54:09] <brion>	ok my two remaining fixmes are:
[11:54:12] <brion>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/48793#c2107
[11:54:16] <brion>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/47473
[11:54:27] <brion>	and these are both less broken than before they existed, so ok for now :D
[11:54:53] <werdna>	brion: the latter is live anyway
[11:55:19] <brion>	:D
[11:55:37] <werdna>	we gonna update test? :)
[11:56:03] <werdna>	ah, I see the other channel ther
[11:56:05] <werdna>	man it's 5am
[11:56:11] <werdna>	poor brion 
[11:56:23] <brion>	pssh
[11:56:43] <poke`>	5am? You work far too long :/
[11:56:54] <werdna>	it's a one-off
[11:56:55] <brion>	i am not imprisoned by your mortal concept of time
[11:57:08] <werdna>	usually he takes off at 6 or so
[11:57:16] <poke`>	:S
[11:57:20] <Splarka>	hmm, 47458 to 48808 
[11:57:23] <werdna>	pm
[11:58:38] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES?r1=47458&r2=48807
[11:59:16] <brion>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki%2Freleasenotes&startrev=47458&endrev=&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fphase3
[11:59:39] <Splarka>	test is broke, that's a good sign
[11:59:59] <werdna>	oh good
[12:00:09] <werdna>	brion: some fatal on testwiki
[12:00:11] *Splarka 	getting blank pages, heh
[12:00:15] <werdna>	and I can't see the damn thing
[12:00:32] <brion>	\o/
[12:00:38] <brion>	usually a conflict
[12:00:40] <brion>	lemme peek
[12:01:32] <werdna>	[andrew@zwinger php-1.5]$ svn status | grep ^C
[12:01:33] <werdna>	C      includes/DefaultSettings.php
[12:01:33] <werdna>	C      includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php
[12:01:49] <brion>	C      includes/DefaultSettings.php
[12:01:49] <brion>	C      includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php
[12:01:51] <brion>	pah
[12:02:09] <werdna>	I fixed DefaultSettings
[12:02:18] <brion>	ahhh don touch it
[12:02:52] *werdna 	backs away
[12:03:02] <brion>	ok no diff visible in upload. just reverting it too :)
[12:03:14] <werdna>	I already did it though, it was tagfilter colliding with everything else.
[12:03:29] <brion>	whee
[12:03:30] <werdna>	(DefaultSettings)
[12:08:20] <brion>	werdna: Mar 25 12:08:12 10.0.2.172 apache2[30277]: PHP Warning:  preg_match_all() [<a href='function.preg-match-all'>function.preg-match-all</a>]: Unknown modifier 't' in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php on line 1063
[12:08:37] <werdna>	lol wut
[12:08:38] <brion>	looks like that's the current live code tho
[12:09:13] <werdna>	shouldn't happen in either case
[12:09:18] <werdna>				$needle = strtr( $needle, array('/' => '\/') );
[12:09:19] <werdna>				$needle = "/$needle/u";
[12:09:24] <werdna>	I munge the regex like so
[12:09:41] <brion>	i see a couple per second
[12:09:51] <domas>	werdna: fail! :-p
[12:09:58] *domas 	hides
[12:10:17] <werdna>	lame
[12:10:29] <werdna>	can I try syncing that file and seeing if it goes away?
[12:11:28] <brion>	sure
[12:12:25] <werdna>	hang on, double checking there aren't dependencies
[12:12:47] <brion>	> return strtr( 'blah\/blah', array( '/' => '\/' ) );
[12:12:47] <brion>	blah\\/blah
[12:12:57] <brion>	i'm bettin that's it
[12:13:19] <brion>	somebody's escaping their / already and you're de-escaping the escape :D
[12:13:49] <brion>	i might recommend checking the return value and reporting regex errors if possible
[12:13:51] <werdna>	bah, lameness
[12:15:51] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48809 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php: Fix regex munging by not breaking with regexes with already-escaped /s
[12:16:34] <werdna>	okay synced that file
[12:16:38] <werdna>	tell me if the warnings stop
[12:16:54] <Splarka>	so what input can {{formatdate}} take?
[12:16:58] <werdna>	I do need to do some async reporting of errors that might occur in rule execution
[12:17:12] <werdna>	Splarka: any format accepted by linked dates
[12:17:25] <werdna>	brion: warnings stopped?
[12:17:38] <brion>	werdna: yep
[12:17:41] <brion>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/15 ?
[12:17:51] <brion>	or did you poke the code?
[12:17:58] <brion>	yeah you poked the code
[12:18:03] <Splarka>	ahh, not a wrapper for strtotime then? heh
[12:18:08] <poke`>	How do you poke code? o.O
[12:18:16] <brion>	carefully
[12:18:22] <brion>	or wantonly
[12:18:28] <poke`>	^^
[12:18:28] <brion>	mmm, wantons
[12:18:37] <werdna>	carefully if you're deploying it five seconds later
[12:18:39] <Splarka>	poke`: for you it is easy: /me code
[12:18:48] <poke`>	yeah :P
[12:18:53] <werdna>	12:25 < PatriciaR> A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
[12:18:56] <werdna>	12:25 < PatriciaR>     (SQL query hidden)
[12:18:58] <werdna>	12:25 < PatriciaR> from within function "FlaggedRevs::updateArticleOn". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'testwiki.flaggedpage_pending' doesn't exist (10.0.6.21)".
[12:18:59] <poke`>	I always get pinged when people poke something :P
[12:19:11] <werdna>	I think I saw something about a schema change in flaggedrevs
[12:19:13] <brion>	heh
[12:19:18] <brion>	that's cuz i forgot to apply those yet ;)
[12:19:19] <brion>	sec
[12:19:21] <werdna>	I think aaron pulled a swift one on us  :P
[12:21:04] <Splarka>	werdna: okay, I give up, give me an example of formatdate, I can't get it to do anything
[12:21:25] <werdna>	{{#formatdate:2009-03-24|mdy}}
[12:21:38] <werdna>	will show your preference, or mdy if you have none
[12:22:14] <Splarka>	{{formatdate:2009-03-24|mdy}} -> 2009-03-24
[12:22:14] <Splarka>	{{formatdate:2009-03-24|dmy}} -> 2009-03-24
[12:22:21] <werdna>	#
[12:22:21] <werdna>	#
[12:22:25] <poke`>	that's wrong :P
[12:22:27] <Splarka>	{{#formatdate:2009-03-24|mdy}}
[12:22:27] <Splarka>	{{#formatdate:2009-03-24|dmy}}
[12:22:33] <Splarka>	returns that, literal
[12:22:38] <Splarka>	it isn't a hashed function on test.wp
[12:23:18] <Splarka>	been trying everything: {{formatdate:2001-01-15T16:12:34}} &bull; {{formatdate:2001-01-15T16:12:34|default}} &bull; {{formatdate:2001-01-15T16:12:34|mdy}} &bull; {{formatdate:2001-01-15T16:12:34|dmy}} &bull; {{formatdate:2001-01-15T16:12:34|ymd}} &bull; {{formatdate:2001-01-15T16:12:34|ytmnd}} &bull; {{formatdate:2001-01-15T16:12:34|ISO 8601}}
[12:23:41] <brion>	somebody forgot to commit the # update i think :D
[12:24:05] <werdna>	wfm locally, but not on test
[12:24:19] <brion>	nwfm locally
[12:24:36] <Splarka>	wfmbidda
[12:24:53] <werdna>	yeah it's not committed
[12:24:57] <werdna>	I thought I committed it
[12:25:02] <werdna>	maybe I got out-of-date
[12:25:03] <brion>	that'd explain why it only works for you ;)
[12:25:42] <werdna>	man I love love love shell shortcuts
[12:26:03] <brion>	hmm
[12:26:32] <werdna>	like if you type svn commi paths paths paths --message="Message"
[12:26:33] <werdna>	oh whoops
[12:26:38] <werdna>	^commi^commit^
[12:26:40] <werdna>	all better :)
[12:26:47] <brion>	werdna: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/48809 <- if the pattern contains \\/ you'll end up with an early / still
[12:26:52] <brion>	damn reds
[12:26:56] *Splarka 	loves him some cascading diffonly
[12:27:08] <werdna>	brion: ugggh
[12:27:20] <werdna>	brion: what do you suggest doing then
[12:27:21] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48810 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Convert formatdate to a hashed parserfunction
[12:27:48] <brion>	fancier preg
[12:28:41] <werdna>	ugh, sounds performance-nasty
[12:28:55] <brion>	you wanna check for even #s of \\s :D
[12:29:23] <Splarka>	hey hey hey, you there with the fancy coding hat, yah, you.. you should make all variables and parser functions hashed, but have them work non-hashed (for those that ever worked unhashed) but *after* templates in precidence, then that would get people to migrate to them slowly, where # would be for disambiguation and considered "good form"
[12:30:03] <werdna>	http://au.php.net/manual/en/function.addcslashes.php looks tempting
[12:30:07] <Splarka>	and you could find them all by creating, like, Template:PAGENAME with category:Improper_uses_of_PAGENAME
[12:30:47] <Duesentrieb>	un-hashed parser functions are confusing
[12:30:53] <Duesentrieb>	i can never remember which those are
[12:30:53] <poke`>	or simply WhatLinksHere..
[12:31:09] <Splarka>	poke`: wouldn't work if the precidence ignored them if they didn't exist
[12:31:15] <brion>	ok updated test
[12:31:18] <Splarka>	so you'd have to at least create them
[12:31:33] <Splarka>	probably with contents {{#{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} heh
[12:31:38] <poke`>	oh, ok
[12:31:40] <Splarka>	er just {{PAGENAME}}
[12:31:55] <poke`>	wouldn't that then return "Template:PAGENAME"?
[12:32:03] <poke`>	or just the PAGENAME
[12:32:08] <Splarka>	yah
[12:32:20] <poke`>	also # then :P
[12:32:25] <Splarka>	{{}} = 1.transclusion if page exists, 2.magicword/pf, 
[12:32:31] <Splarka>	{{#}} mw/pf only
[12:32:48] <Splarka>	doesn't that sound totally backward compatty and forward-thinking?
[12:33:06] <poke`>	So you can break all your magic words by creating the templates with the names..
[12:33:07] <Splarka>	and tim-won't-apoplexy-y
[12:33:09] <poke`>	that's stupid
[12:33:33] <Splarka>	yep, that would be the motivation
[12:33:38] <Splarka>	to migrate!
[12:33:45] <poke`>	^^
[12:34:34] <Splarka>	hmm
[12:34:41] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17673 is still broked
[12:34:54] <Splarka>	er
[12:35:00] <Splarka>	no it isn't, I was on the wrong wiki, heh
[12:36:25] <Splarka>	werdna: cool, works now <3
[12:43:37] <Splarka>	 <error code="badtoken" info="Invalid token">
[12:43:48] <Splarka>	heh, fixed
[12:44:06] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48811 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.parser.php: Properly fix regex munging
[12:45:19] <Splarka>	http://test.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&revids=1&rvdiffto=2
[12:45:25] <Splarka>	api diff, IT'S ALIVE!
[12:45:34] *Splarka 	sends it to torment the villagers
[12:46:30] <brion>	mwahaha
[12:46:45] <poke`>	is it only possible to get a html table as diff output? :/
[12:46:55] <Splarka>	that is what the diff engine produces
[12:47:01] <poke`>	hm
[12:47:04] <Splarka>	and that is what the cache caches
[12:47:09] <Splarka>	it was a strugge to get this much, heh
[12:47:15] <poke`>	^^
[12:47:17] <brion>	werdna: fyi if you referecne the revision # you're following up on in the commit message, code review now adds a link on the old rev to the new one :D
[12:47:19] <brion>	thx to AaronSchulz 
[12:47:21] <brion>	\o/
[12:47:25] <Splarka>	they'd have to refactor the hell out of the diff system to do otherwise
[12:47:34] <Splarka>	but you can always get the raw text and diff it yourself!
[12:47:44] <poke`>	:P
[12:48:09] <werdna>	brion: yeah I saw that, I just forgot wich rev I as fixing
[12:48:14] <poke`>	or you can parse the html output to your preferred format :P
[12:48:32] <werdna>	actually there's a DiffFormatter class internally
[12:48:38] <werdna>	and you can just write your own
[12:48:52] <werdna>	$ddiff = new Diff( $array1, $array2 ); 
[12:48:56] <Splarka>	this api diff though uses the diff cache
[12:49:04] <werdna>	$formattedDiff = $fdiffFormatter->format( $ddiff );
[12:49:13] <Splarka>	there was an earlier setup that was a dos vector or something
[12:49:32] <Splarka>	and nobody wants to be stuck typing c:\> dir/s/b diff.*
[12:50:31] <brion>	heh http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=OMG_is_teh_bug_fixed%3F&diff=72926&oldid=72925
[12:50:33] <Splarka>	so the condition for having diff in the api, was it had to use the diff cache, which means it can only show the html that gets cached, which is the same as is shown in the UI
[12:50:50] <Splarka>	which means lots of &lt;
[12:51:28] <brion>	http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Tags heh
[12:51:42] <poke`>	but could you implement some str_replace into the api output? :P
[12:52:08] <Splarka>	yes, you could
[12:52:26] <Splarka>	but this is nice and lazy, and you can use it to simply stick it back into a pageview
[12:52:34] <Splarka>	heh, ajax diff paging
[12:52:38] <poke`>	:P
[12:53:04] <Splarka>	hey Marybelle: it is now possible to write a "does this diff make my ass look big and my browser crash?" preview script
[12:55:56] <Splarka>	damn, not enough pages on test.wp to test r47984
[12:56:12] *Splarka 	checks some spammier namespaces
[12:56:52] <Splarka>	sweet
[12:58:23] <werdna>	brion: somehow the abuse filter is only 500ms at edit time
[12:58:43] <brion>	\o/
[12:58:48] <brion>	is that... bad? :D
[12:59:03] *brion 	looks all shifty-eyed
[12:59:32] <werdna>	heh
[12:59:33] <werdna>	only!
[13:02:21] <Splarka>	hmm
[13:02:25] <werdna>	I should add lock global account and global block actions to the abuse filter
[13:02:36] <Splarka>	http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sandbox&oldid=72929
[13:02:52] <Splarka>	do {{REVISION*}} magicwords apply to the top version even with &oldid ?
[13:04:59] <brion>	well don't add nothing now :D
[13:05:01] <werdna>	think I need to talk the community into letting me activate block too first
[13:05:12] <werdna>	heh
[13:06:33] *ThomasV 	looks at scapmap
[13:09:31] <Biny3>	Build# 1.15 (r48811) had some problems with includes/DefaultSettings.php
[13:09:44] <Biny3>	had to comment some stuff out in order to be able to load the wiki.
[13:10:26] <Biny3>	lines 2121 - 2124
[13:13:01] <Duesentrieb>	Biny3: sounds odd, there's just a variable initialization there. what kind of problem did it cause?
[13:13:28] <Biny3>	just an invalid use of null whenl oading, let me uncomment for full error message
[13:13:43] <Biny3>	I also got a conflict message when doing an svn update
[13:13:57] <Duesentrieb>	that indicates that you changed something locally
[13:14:16] <Duesentrieb>	and someone else changed something in the same place
[13:14:25] <Biny3>	I haven't modified anything in includes/
[13:14:28] <Duesentrieb>	i.e. the conflict could indicate that it got fixed in the repo
[13:14:42] <Duesentrieb>	well, you modified DefaultSettings...
[13:14:46] <Splarka>	haha
[13:14:48] <Splarka>	<li id="t-print"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Sections&amp;printable=yes"
[13:14:54] <Splarka>	*click*
[13:14:55] <Splarka>	<li id="t-print"><a href="/w/index.php?title=Sections&amp;printable=yes&amp;printable=yes"
[13:15:20] <Splarka>	(don't think it is a new bug, but I never diffed the printable html before)
[13:15:34] <Biny3>	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_SL in /var/www/wiki115/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 2121
[13:16:09] <Duesentrieb>	make sure you resolved the conflict properly
[13:19:23] <Splarka>	hmmm
[13:20:33] <werdna>	brion: we ready to scap away soon?
[13:21:54] <Splarka>	http://test.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=users&ustoken=userrights&ususers=Brion_VIBBER|Midom|Tim%20Starling
[13:22:19] <Splarka>	teehee
[13:22:29] <werdna>	let's take away their rightz
[13:22:44] <poke`>	Is it normal that clicking the image leads to the page itself? http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikifurdotcom.tif
[13:22:50] <brion>	okee
[13:23:05] <brion>	just pushed out a big-ass crosspost email :D
[13:23:12] <werdna>	an ass-crosspost?
[13:24:09] <Splarka>	poke`: odd...
[13:24:31] <poke`>	It could be because the image is not loaded, but the link directly below is correct.
[13:24:42] <Splarka>	hmm, same thing for pdf
[13:24:59] <poke`>	"not loaded" -> "not possible to be thumbnailed"
[13:25:18] <werdna>	brion: as I always say, scap is such a freaky script
[13:34:57] <brion>	Mar 25 13:34:35 10.0.2.205 apache2[1483]: PHP Fatal error:  Unsupported operand types in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php on line 338
[13:35:00] <brion>	Mar 25 13:34:38 10.0.2.67 apache2[13123]: PHP Fatal error:  Call to a member function exists() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php on line 89
[13:37:26] <werdna>	brion: trying to fix
[13:39:17] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48812 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: Fix warning on line 89 -- wfFindFile returns false if it isn't found
[13:40:24] <werdna>	brion: fixed one fatal there
[13:40:38] <brion>	ThomasV: ^^
[13:40:58] <ThomasV>	saw it
[13:41:23] <werdna>	oh the ext developer is here
[13:41:27] *werdna 	defers to him
[13:41:33] <brion>	\o/
[13:41:44] <ThomasV>	gah
[13:41:44] <werdna>	brion: did I stop that second fatal?
[13:41:59] <brion>	Mar 25 13:41:53 10.0.2.182 apache2[27479]: PHP Fatal error:  Unsupported operand types in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php on line 338
[13:42:05] <brion>	still seeing a lot of those
[13:42:09] <brion>	some others for the list:
[13:42:16] <brion>	Mar 25 13:41:27 10.0.2.214 apache2[30973]: PHP Fatal error:  Call to a member function getNamespace() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/api/ApiQueryCategories.php on line 90
[13:42:24] <brion>	Mar 25 13:40:53 10.0.2.184 apache2[26628]: PHP Warning:  Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/api/ApiQueryImageInfo.php on line 227
[13:42:31] <brion>	Mar 25 13:40:38 10.0.2.209 apache2[32690]: PHP Catchable fatal error:  Argument 1 passed to UserrightsPage::doSaveUserGroups() must be an instance of User, instance of UserRightsProxy given, called in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php on line 152 and defined in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php on line 164
[13:43:07] <brion>	ima grab something from the kitchen
[13:43:13] <brion>	starvin :D
[13:43:58] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48813 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryCategories.php: Check for title validity in ApiQueryCategories
[13:45:10] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48814 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php: Remove constraint that $user must be a User object in SpecialUserrights, can also be a UserrightsProxy
[13:45:17] <brion>	[Melos]: Detected bug in an extension! Hook FlaggedRevsHooks::addToFileHistQuery failed to return a value; should return true to continue hook processing or false to abort. on de wp
[13:46:08] <AaronSchulz>	hrm
[13:46:12] <werdna>	fixed already
[13:46:31] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48815 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Fix hook not returning a value in FlaggedRevs
[13:46:36] <brion>	\o/
[13:46:47] <Splarka>	wasn't broked on test for images, was a config issue?
[13:46:55] <Splarka>	(er, depended on, that is)
[13:47:07] <brion>	Splarka: affected commons images only looks like
[13:47:17] <brion>	probably only tested local ones :)
[13:47:24] <Splarka>	heh, yah
[13:47:26] <werdna>	ok synced that fix
[13:47:38] <werdna>	should I go ahead and sync the fixes for Userrights and apiquerycategories?
[13:48:21] <brion>	pls
[13:49:15] <werdna>	done
[13:49:18] <brion>	ThomasV: any luck with the Unsupported operand types in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php on line 338 bug?
[13:49:33] <ThomasV>	brion: still looking
[13:50:04] <brion>	tx
[13:50:06] <ThomasV>	it seems to occur only on de.ws
[13:50:07] <werdna>	It baffled me a bit. Maybe there's a sneaky return path in one of the functions you're getting $attributes from
[13:50:45] <brion>	PHP Fatal error:  Call to a member function exists() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php on line 302
[13:51:21] <werdna>		if( !$index_title ) return ;
[13:51:22] <werdna>		if( !$index_title->exists() ) return;
[13:51:29] <ThomasV>	yeah
[13:51:29] <werdna>	in function pr_parse_index($index_title, $page_title){
[13:51:50] <werdna>	brion: fixed that locally
[13:52:28] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48816 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: Fix fatal, same wfFindFile issue
[13:53:00] <ThomasV>	I guess it should return a triple
[13:53:17] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48817 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: Fix wfFindFile issue in 3 more places
[13:54:21] <werdna>	brion: ok should have fixed a bunch of ProofreadPage fatals just now
[13:54:57] *brion 	peeks
[13:55:07] <brion>	hmmmm saw another couple of those line 338 ones
[13:55:13] <brion>	but the exists() ones are stopped so far
[13:55:14] <werdna>	yeah haven't fixed that
[13:55:30] <werdna>	ThomasV: is poking line 338, I fixed all the exists() ones
[13:55:50] <ThomasV>	yeah I saw; thanks
[13:56:10] <ThomasV>	the 338 bug is due to the "return " in pr_parse_index
[13:56:17] <werdna>	right
[13:56:28] <brion>	PHP Warning:  Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/api/ApiQueryImageInfo.php on line 227
[13:56:58] <werdna>	actually unlikely
[13:56:59] <werdna>	see 	if( !$index_title ) return $err;
[13:57:00] <werdna>		if( !$index_title->exists()) return $err;
[13:57:04] <werdna>	in pr_navigation
[13:57:06] <werdna>	brion: looking
[13:57:14] <brion>	tx
[13:58:10] <brion>	Call to a member function exists() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php on line 135
[13:58:11] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48818 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevision.php: Use preg_match_all to get all rev references
[13:58:36] <borgx>	hi.. can we see recentchanges more than 500 just like before?
[13:58:53] <AaronSchulz>	brion: 'svnImport MediaWiki 0' again will apply that
[13:59:18] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48819 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryImageInfo.php: Fix fatals in ApiQueryImageInfo.php where no metadata exists
[13:59:34] <Splarka>	borgx: domas lowered it due to performance issues involving generating the [rollback] links, there isn't currently a good solution 
[13:59:59] <domas>	maybe someone will add paging feature!
[14:00:00] <Splarka>	you can use the API though, which has pagination
[14:00:17] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48820 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: Allow for false as $image parameter again in pr_navigation (ProofreadPage)
[14:00:17] <werdna>	yeah, blame AaronSchulz for that
[14:00:34] <borgx>	Splarka: good news for vandals
[14:00:35] <poke`>	Special:RecentChanges?limit=5000 works for sysops
[14:00:55] <Splarka>	eep, speak of the <s>devil</s> wonderful developer who donates his free time, volunteering to <s>make life miserable for users</s> help out at Wikimedia
[14:01:16] <Splarka>	mmm, "good news for vandals" is domas' catchphrase, he has it on a T-shirt
[14:02:04] <brion>	thx AaronSchulz 
[14:02:32] <chuck>	whoa, say it ain't so! wikipedia is actually off of revision 47457? :O
[14:02:52] <werdna>	yeah
[14:02:55] <werdna>	it's so
[14:02:59] <domas>	hehehe
[14:03:13] <domas>	well
[14:03:20] <domas>	if developers make mediawiki very very slow at simple operations
[14:03:22] <chuck>	any schema changes?
[14:03:22] <spx2>	has the wikipedia markup language changed from 2004-2009 ?
[14:03:27] <domas>	I have to reduce amount of those simple operations
[14:03:30] <domas>	spx2: haha
[14:03:32] <spx2>	I mean the mediawiki markup language
[14:03:40] <spx2>	domas: I'm serious
[14:03:43] <domas>	spx2: templates, mostly
[14:03:46] <werdna>	spx2: yes, of course
[14:03:48] <werdna>	plenty
[14:03:53] <Splarka>	more parserfunctions, more magic words
[14:03:56] <werdna>	but stuff written in 2004 will still render in 2009
[14:03:59] <Splarka>	and the preparser rewrite
[14:04:04] <werdna>	just that stuff written in 2009 won't work in 2004
[14:04:14] <spx2>	how is that consistent with the multiple revisions since 2004 from wikipedia
[14:04:19] <spx2>	I mean I understand it's normal
[14:04:26] <chuck>	werdna: do you know if there were any schema changes from 47454 to 48811?
[14:04:30] <Splarka>	some very esoteric things will break
[14:04:35] <werdna>	chuck: some minor stuff
[14:04:40] <spx2>	is there a short guide of the mediawiki markup language somewhere ?
[14:04:44] <Splarka>	like <!-- <includeonly></includeonly> -->
[14:04:49] <werdna>	like codereview, abusefilter, ...
[14:05:06] <CIA-60>	03thomasv * r48821 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: return correct type on error
[14:05:10] <chuck>	spx2: this is just a wild guess, but there should be something at http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Editing
[14:05:30] <ThomasV>	werdna: it might work now...
[14:05:35] <werdna>	ThomasV: looking at it
[14:05:35] <chuck>	yeah there's some stuff there
[14:06:00] <brion>	dewiki	IndexPager::reallyDoQuery (OldReviewedPagesPager)	10.0.0.232	1054	Unknown column 'pending_since' in 'where clause' (10.0.0.232)	SELECT  page_namespace,page_title,page_len,rev_len,page_latest,fp_stable AS stable,fp_quality AS quality,fp_pending_since AS pending_since  FROM `page` FORCE INDEX (PRIMARY),`revision`,`flaggedpages` FORCE INDEX (fp_pending_since)   WHERE (page_id = fp_page_id) AND (rev_page = page_id AND rev_id = fp_stable) AND (fp
[14:06:13] <brion>	hmmmm, i applied that...
[14:06:42] <werdna>	ThomasV: in theory it should never get there, because there are these two lines in the caller
[14:06:45] <werdna>		if( !$index_title ) return $err;
[14:06:48] <werdna>		if( !$index_title->exists()) return $err;
[14:06:49] <AaronSchulz>	Raymond__: de wiki has a nice validationstatistics message
[14:06:52] <brion>	ah wait
[14:07:07] <brion>	AaronSchulz: i think you can only use the aliased column name in HAVING, not in WHERE unless i'm mistaken
[14:07:09] <AaronSchulz>	Raymond__: any way that can be moved to the main msg files
[14:07:46] <ThomasV>	werdna: yes...
[14:08:01] <werdna>	anyway can't hurt
[14:08:08] <AaronSchulz>	brion: might be a 4.0 limitation?
[14:08:12] <werdna>	It looks like it won't *break* anything
[14:08:16] <brion>	mebbe
[14:08:21] <werdna>	so I'll sync it and we'll see if the fatals keep coming
[14:08:26] <Raymond__>	AaronSchulz: yeah but the code needs tweaking... I added a linebreak with http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Validationstatistics-time&diff=prev&oldid=58301105 otherwise the table syntax was shown as literals
[14:08:50] <AaronSchulz>	Raymond__: you can tweak :)
[14:08:55] <Raymond__>	AaronSchulz: I do it :)
[14:09:04] <Raymond__>	working on it already :)
[14:09:12] <werdna>	brion: are we still getting the line 338 fatal?
[14:09:19] <brion>	"It is not allowable to refer to a column alias in a WHERE clause, because the column value might not yet be determined when the WHERE  clause is executed. See Section B.1.5.4, “Problems with Column Aliases”. "
[14:09:22] <brion>	http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/6.0/en/select.html
[14:09:38] <brion>	werdas of a minute ago at least yes
[14:09:42] <werdna>	ThomasV: found the bug
[14:09:44] <ThomasV>	looks like the fatal is still there...
[14:09:44] <brion>	uh now it's moved to line 340, still getting em
[14:10:00] <ThomasV>	werdna: you did ?
[14:10:04] <ThomasV>	what is it ?
[14:10:15] <werdna>	misalignment in $err
[14:10:22] <werdna>	it has 4 empty strings then $attributes
[14:10:26] <ThomasV>	oh...
[14:10:33] <werdna>	whereas the caller expects 3 strings then $attributes
[14:10:43] <borgx>	mmm.. is there any way to request a different setting for smaller wikis to see beyond 500 recentchanges?
[14:10:54] <ThomasV>	werdna: you are right
[14:11:33] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48822 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: Fix out-param misalignment in returning errors.
[14:11:42] <werdna>	brion: tell me if it still spews fatals after this
[14:11:45] <AaronSchulz>	brion: fixing...
[14:12:05] <AaronSchulz>	btw you can run updateLinks.php --updateonly=pages to populate the new table
[14:12:09] <werdna>	ok they should have stopped
[14:12:17] *brion 	checks log
[14:12:21] <ThomasV>	thanks werdna 
[14:12:25] <brion>	werdna: looks stopped
[14:12:27] <brion>	wheee
[14:12:38] <werdna>	:))
[14:12:59] <brion>	borgx: we could probably rig something up -- put it in bugzilla for the moment, we might not get to it today :D
[14:13:15] <spx2>	chuck , werdna , domas : is there some kind of backward compatibility of the mediawiki markup language ?
[14:13:23] <werdna>	yes of course
[14:13:27] <werdna>	it's the bane of our existence
[14:13:38] <werdna>	making shit not break when we change wikitext to be better.
[14:13:56] <AaronSchulz>	brion: how is that query made? I can't reproduce the error
[14:14:15] <werdna>	IndexPager::reallyDoQuery (OldReviewedPagesPager)
[14:14:21] <brion>	AaronSchulz: no idea, i just found it in the db error log :D
[14:14:41] <spx2>	I'd like to parse wiki revision dumps , the problem is .. your markup changed
[14:15:03] <spx2>	so my only option is to make a different parser for each time you mention in your Changelog changes to the markup language
[14:15:12] <spx2>	parser2004-2005
[14:15:16] <spx2>	parser2005-2006
[14:15:19] <spx2>	parser2006-2007
[14:15:21] <spx2>	and so forth
[14:15:29] <cirwin>	spx2: you can just get them out of svn, presumably
[14:15:35] <AaronSchulz>	brion: that page doesn't give me that error
[14:15:42] *AaronSchulz 	plays with all the filters
[14:15:52] <werdna>	spx2: of course there's backwards compatibility. Revisions from 2003 will still display ok today.
[14:16:01] <brion>	spx2: in theory the current parser is backwards-compatible with old markup, at least insofar as it should matter most of the time
[14:16:19] <brion>	(rare edge cases sometimes break)
[14:16:48] <spx2>	brion: can you give me a link to this parser ?
[14:17:15] <spx2>	brion: because I've saw there are a bunch of parsers,don't know which to choose
[14:17:33] <brion>	spx2: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parser.php
[14:18:17] <spx2>	thanks
[14:20:05] <werdna>	brion: anything else explody need poking at?
[14:20:29] <brion>	PHP Catchable fatal error:  Argument 1 passed to Article::__construct() must be an instance of Title, null given, called in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php on line 362 and defined in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Article.php on line 50
[14:20:45] <Simetrical>	Yay, catchable fatals.
[14:20:54] <brion>	spx2: basically if you *need* to render exactly as wikipedia does you'll need mediawiki and the extensions we use :)
[14:21:02] <brion>	our markup is not really well defined :(
[14:21:04] <werdna>	that's weird.
[14:21:06] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48823 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/QualityOversight_body.php: Don't show filter if there is only one level
[14:21:18] <chuck>	someone should define it welly
[14:21:29] <chuck>	*well (?)
[14:22:18] <cirwin>	it's presumably definable, might take a long time - and just be easier to read the php
[14:22:37] <werdna>	brion: you need some sleep dude :P
[14:22:59] *Splarka 	thinks it is undefinable
[14:23:26] <brion>	i am beyond sleep
[14:23:33] <brion>	i have entered.... hypersleep
[14:23:47] <chuck>	brion: how long have you been working on getting the code reviewed up until the stable revision?
[14:23:51] <ThomasV>	werdna: proofreadpage is still partly broken... but silently
[14:24:01] <Splarka>	possibly you mean hyposleep, or hyperwakefulness, or just hyper
[14:24:11] <werdna>	ThomasV: if you come up with some more fixes let me know
[14:24:26] <brion>	time no longer has meaning for me
[14:24:45] <Splarka>	{{#time:U}} (WFM)
[14:24:55] <chuck>	brion: how many moons have past since you started reviewing the code?
[14:25:14] <brion>	moons... of which planet?
[14:25:27] <chuck>	jupiter, of course
[14:25:53] <werdna>	I think brion's been at it for about 20 hours
[14:30:39] <spx2>	when did the {{ }} tag appear ?
[14:30:49] <spx2>	for example I'm looking at some dumps from 2004
[14:31:07] <spx2>	in early 2004 there was at the beggining of the text of an article  '''TITLE'''
[14:31:18] <spx2>	TITLE stands for the title of the article
[14:31:32] <spx2>	in late 2004 you have  {{TITLE}} and then some other stuff
[14:34:41] <Splarka>	chuck: 0.294d Sidereal period for Naiad (Neptune), 9,373.99d for Neso (Neptune)
[14:38:32] <brion>	 PHP Catchable fatal error:  Argument 1 passed to Article::__construct() must be an instance of Title, null given, called in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php on line 362 and defined in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Article.php on line 50
[14:39:38] <werdna>	yeah I was looking at that, can't see an easy way to report an error
[14:40:57] <CIA-60>	03thomasv * r48824 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: fix for navigation links
[14:40:57] <ThomasV>	werdna: one more fix
[14:41:40] <brion>	PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined method FlaggedRevsHooks::getlinkdeletions() in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php on line 215
[14:42:22] <werdna>	ThomasV: looks ok
[14:42:59] <werdna>	syncing
[14:43:05] <CIA-60>	03werdna * r48825 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: Fail silently for trying to add invalid titles to books
[14:43:26] <werdna>	brion: fixing that collections error now
[14:44:18] <werdna>	brion: collections one gone yet?
[14:44:28] <spx2>	werdna: how can I get the article title from a dump ?
[14:44:37] <werdna>	spx2: should be in the xml as an attribute
[14:45:38] <ThomasV>	hmm that did not fix it
[14:46:44] <brion>	so far
[14:46:49] <werdna>	yay
[14:46:51] <brion>	i still see the flaggedrevs hook err
[14:47:09] <brion>	i'm still awake enough to look at the error log, but don't ask me to change anything naymore ;)
[14:47:11] <spx2>	werdna: it's not in the xml as an attribute
[14:47:49] <werdna>	brion: that flaggedrevs error looks like it might be APC corruption or something, because the method clearly exists
[14:47:56] <werdna>		protected static function getLinkDeletions( $existing, $new ) {
[14:48:01] <werdna>	does protected static mean anything?
[14:48:08] <brion>	ehhh yeah it's just on one box
[14:48:18] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48827 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialBlockip.php: Double check 'hideuser' before blocking
[14:48:21] <werdna>	want me to fix that up?
[14:48:35] <brion>	still got that pending_since error in flaggedrevs
[14:48:39] <brion>	go for it
[14:48:41] <brion>	looks like srv203
[14:48:44] <werdna>	you'd have to tell me which box though
[14:49:04] <werdna>	how do I restart apache?
[14:50:59] <werdna>	ah I need to be logged in as root
[14:52:13] <werdna>	brion: might need you to do the restarting :)
[14:52:41] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48828 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialBlockip.php: Add suppression block log if allowed
[14:53:14] <AaronSchulz>	brion: can you sync specialblockip ?
[14:53:30] <brion>	werdna: looks cleared up
[14:54:13] <brion>	werdna: can you poke that? tx
[14:54:20] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: syncing specialblockip?
[14:55:55] <werdna>	guess so
[14:56:07] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: syncing
[15:02:49] <Simetrical>	"Tweak r47992 to use  instead of a new configuration variable."
[15:02:58] <Simetrical>	I see werdna uses -m.  :P
[15:03:04] <werdna>	hehe
[15:03:07] <werdna>	brion-away: sleep well
[15:03:11] <brion-away>	we'll see
[15:03:13] <brion-away>	:D
[15:03:22] <AaronSchulz>	heh
[15:03:24] <werdna>	I'll hang around for another little bit to make sure nothing breaks too badly
[15:03:28] <werdna>	but I need sleep too :P
[15:03:30] <brion-away>	thanks everybody for your help finding, fixing, or making bugs ;)
[15:03:37] <werdna>	;)
[15:07:29] <brion-away>	zzzz
[15:10:48] *RobH 	hopes nothing breaks.
[15:10:50] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48829 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/shared.css: Removed 'font-family: monospace;' from revdelete links
[15:12:25] <werdna>	RobH: AaronSchulz does the code, you can do the sysadmin stuff :)
[15:12:39] <RobH>	yes but the code can break my pretty servers ;_;
[15:12:59] <RobH>	then i have to bug someone to reveryt something
[15:13:04] <RobH>	then i have to fix my servers!
[15:13:07] <RobH>	^_^
[15:13:40] <CIA-60>	03mkroetzsch * r48830 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/RELEASE-NOTES: documented upcoming Exhibit changes in release notes
[15:14:05] <AaronSchulz>	RobH: you can start by syncing CodeReview
[15:14:27] <RobH>	sure, if you let me know how.  I never touched it.
[15:14:50] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: it's already up to date
[15:14:56] <werdna>	or did you change something since scap?
[15:14:57] *RobH 	needs to move that tool to singer actually...
[15:15:15] <AaronSchulz>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki/path&path=/trunk/extensions/CodeReview
[15:16:01] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add "search headings only" option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18152 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: MWSearch; (church.of.emacs.ml)
[15:16:07] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: oh r48818
[15:16:55] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: looks broken to me
[15:17:13] <werdna>	you're treating the result of preg_match_all as if it were the result of preg_match
[15:17:16] <werdna>	needs a loop
[15:17:23] <werdna>	foreach( $matches as $m ) {
[15:17:27] <werdna>	.. your existing logic
[15:17:29] <werdna>	}
[15:17:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add "search headings only" option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18152  normal->low; +comment (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[15:18:02] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: there is a for loop
[15:18:31] <werdna>	 unset($m[0]); // ignore the whole match
[15:18:42] <werdna>	I think you need to move that inside the loop, then
[15:19:03] <werdna>	or just delete it
[15:19:14] <werdna>	also, $rev will be an array
[15:19:25] <werdna>	so you really mean intval( $rev[0] );
[15:23:53] <AaronSchulz>	or 'foreach( $m[1] as $rev ) {'
[15:24:40] <werdna>	maybe. I'm not 100% on the behaviour of preg_match_all myself
[15:24:52] <werdna>	let me test
[15:25:21] <AaronSchulz>	I already print_r'd it
[15:25:26] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48831 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevision.php: Fix for PREG_PATTERN_ORDER
[15:25:34] <CIA-60>	03mkroetzsch * r48832 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/ (7 files): additional month name translations as supplied by Temlakos
[15:25:42] <werdna>	yeah you're right
[15:27:28] <werdna>	ok looks fine
[15:28:37] <AaronSchulz>	robH: now you can run svnImport MediaWiki 0
[15:28:49] <werdna>	I'll do it :)
[15:29:01] <RobH>	sounds devish, andrew can do it ;]
[15:29:41] <werdna>	it's running
[15:29:56] <RobH>	werdna: when you are in town, i have no idea what to do.
[15:30:05] <RobH>	its not like I can take you to my favorite bars
[15:30:08] <RobH>	cuz us law sucks.
[15:30:20] <CIA-60>	03ashley * r48833 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/SystemGifts/UserSystemGiftsClass.php: SocialProfile: apply r7226 (http://trac.wikia-code.com/changeset/7226) from wikia codebase (send email if gift was added to db)
[15:30:28] <werdna>	i'm sure we can find something fun :P
[15:30:31] <RobH>	(me hates you can vote but not drink at 18, its stupid)
[15:30:53] <cirwin>	maybe they want 3years worth of sensible voting per person?
[15:31:18] <RobH>	cirwin: since lots of folks dont vote at all
[15:31:21] <RobH>	i dont think thats it ;]
[15:31:31] <RobH>	voting was set at 18 because you can be drafted at 18
[15:31:40] <davidt>	How do I add URLs to send to Squid to purge?
[15:31:46] <RobH>	but they didnt lower the drinking ages, because we are messed up.
[15:31:55] <davidt>	Is there a hook for that?
[15:37:15] <AaronSchulz>	RobH: did that updateLinks script finish?
[15:37:23] <RobH>	AaronSchulz: Yep!
[15:37:29] <RobH>	It ran across all the flaggedrevs wikis
[15:37:31] <AaronSchulz>	good, you can run it again :)
[15:37:37] <AaronSchulz>	to populate a new table
[15:37:42] <RobH>	oh?  haha
[15:37:45] <RobH>	sure
[15:37:54] <AaronSchulz>	remember the --updateonly=pages
[15:37:59] <AaronSchulz>	no need for the other stuff
[15:39:40] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: profiling should prolly be cleared
[15:40:12] <RobH>	AaronSchulz: its running again
[15:40:15] <RobH>	it will take abit
[15:40:19] *RobH 	leaves it in a screen session
[15:40:21] <AaronSchulz>	tx
[15:42:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AbuseFilter log shows the contents of deleted pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18043  +comment (10rohde)
[15:44:30] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: btw svnImport finished
[15:49:59] <VasilievVV>	AaronSchulz: do you know that OldReviewedPagesPager is broken?
[15:50:29] <VasilievVV>	Try Special:OldReviewedPages?offset=1 to see
[15:56:15] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48834 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/OldReviewedPages_body.php: Avoid aliasing on index field
[15:56:21] <AaronSchulz>	RobH: ^ sync :)
[15:57:28] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: peeking
[15:57:49] <werdna>	+$this->mIndexField = 'fpp_pending_since';
[15:57:52] <werdna>	typo or no?
[15:58:06] <AaronSchulz>	nope
[15:58:13] <werdna>	ok, i believe you
[15:59:19] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: syncing
[15:59:58] <werdna>	done
[16:00:15] <AaronSchulz>	http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F:ValidationStatistics
[16:00:23] <AaronSchulz>	man, what bizzare times :)
[16:00:44] <AaronSchulz>	VasilievVV: what are you guys doing down there? :p
[16:00:53] <werdna>	up there
[16:01:00] <GerardM_>	I tried to install the CrossNamespaceLinks extension
[16:01:23] <werdna>	The average lag for pages with unreviewed edits pending is 3,370h21m20s. These pages are considered outdated. Likewise, pages are considered synchronized if the stable version is also the current draft version. Stable versions are revisions of pages checked by at least one established user. 
[16:01:28] <werdna>	o_O
[16:01:30] <GerardM_>	It tells me that the Aliases file is missing
[16:01:32] <werdna>	not so flashy
[16:01:54] <AaronSchulz>	and the median/percentiles are way outdated then
[16:01:56] <GerardM_>	the documentation does not tell me how to install this
[16:03:16] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:ValidationStatistics
[16:03:20] <AaronSchulz>	that's flashy :)
[16:03:32] <werdna>	you can tell that it was written by a math student
[16:03:39] <werdna>	all these percentiles and stuff
[16:03:46] <werdna>	o_O
[16:03:51] <werdna>	that's not too bad.
[16:04:06] <werdna>	gonna go to bed soon
[16:04:09] <werdna>	it's just after 3am
[16:05:02] <VasilievVV>	AaronSchulz: we ran a bot that read old patrolling log and marked all patrolled revisions as sighted
[16:05:15] <werdna>	if you need moar syncage, tomasz will be in pretty soon, he's much more mediawiki than rob.
[16:05:39] <AaronSchulz>	you guys need some serious autopromote or something
[16:05:43] <werdna>	goodnight all
[16:05:47] <AaronSchulz>	bye
[16:05:54] <VasilievVV>	bye werdna
[16:05:59] <AaronSchulz>	bad RobH
[16:06:04] <AaronSchulz>	:p
[16:06:15] <RobH>	?
[16:06:22] <RobH>	what did i not do?
[16:06:56] <GerardM_>	<grin> 
[16:07:33] <werdna>	now now, be nice to rob, he can make things disappear
[16:07:37] <werdna>	like svn accounts
[16:07:47] <RobH>	i know how to do that.
[16:08:10] <ThomasV>	werdna are goin going off ?
[16:08:21] <GerardM_>	Sleep well werdna .. merry dreams
[16:13:45] <CIA-60>	03thomasv * r48835 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: fix index_title
[16:14:10] <ThomasV>	werdna: if you are still there, can you resync ProofreadPage ?
[16:16:12] <AaronSchulz>	http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Pilots_in_16-death_crash_jailed_for_praying_instead_of_flying
[16:48:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Clean up duplicate code between Special:WantedPages, WantedFiles, WantedTemplates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18151  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[16:49:27] <cirwin>	what is the reason for $wgUseOldSearchUI being true by default?
[17:02:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Patch radixRegex overmatching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18153 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (rohde)
[17:15:13] <Duesentrieb>	anyone from london here? i got an evening to waste in bayswater
[17:27:21] <Humz>	Hi
[17:28:18] <Humz>	I've spent the past two weeks trying to figure out how to get the mediawiki to stop displaying a "save" prompt when i click the main page link/logo
[17:28:56] <Humz>	has anyone seen this before?
[17:29:18] <Humz>	its XP/MySQL/PHP
[17:31:13] <CIA-60>	03philip * r48836 10/trunk/phase3/languages/LanguageConverter.php: Follow up on r48015, fix a bug which caused 'A' and 'D' won't work.
[17:33:06] <Splarka>	Humz: doublecheck you don't have "use external" anything in Special:Preferences / [editing] checked
[17:33:36] <Duesentrieb>	but that shouldn't trigger unless you try to edit something, right?
[17:33:47] <Splarka>	Humz: doublecheck you don't have "use external" anything in Special:Preferences / [editing] checked
[17:33:56] <Splarka>	Duesentrieb: never hurts to be paranoid
[17:35:01] <Duesentrieb>	:P
[17:35:38] <Humz1m0t0>	i got disconnected, has anyone had the issue with index.php trying to save instaead of open?
[17:37:30] <Duesentrieb>	Humz1m0t0: well, if you don't have php installed, it would do that. but it sounded like normally you can see pages fine?
[17:37:41] <Duesentrieb>	when you go to the main page directly, does it work?
[17:37:50] <Duesentrieb>	did you compare the url of the links you are clicking?
[17:37:55] <cirwin>	Humz1m0t0: when I had this problem it was persisted by firefox cache
[17:37:56] <Duesentrieb>	copyre to a working one, that is
[17:38:02] <cirwin>	try emptying that
[17:38:30] <Splarka>	also, please paste what MediaWiki:Mainpage contains
[17:38:54] <Splarka>	Duesentrieb: ^ that can be fun when set to an interwiki link, heh
[17:39:17] <Duesentrieb>	indeed
[17:39:34] <Splarka>	maybe he set it to an action path /edit/, who knows
[17:40:09] <Duesentrieb>	heh, nice one.
[17:42:27] <[-jon-]>	Is it against the license that mediawiki is distrubted under to remove the copyright tag at the bottom of the page?
[17:43:04] <Prodego>	[-jon-]: I am going to go with no, but which one you do mean?
[17:43:13] <[-jon-]>	well, it's not my page
[17:43:21] <Splarka>	the copyright in the footer is for your content, other than the 'powered by'
[17:43:23] <[-jon-]>	but the only reference to mediawiki is in a meta tag
[17:43:32] <Splarka>	the mediawiki copyright is on Special:Version
[17:43:48] <Prodego>	do you mean the copyright thing (which is specific to the site) or the powered by mediawiki one
[17:44:03] <Prodego>	either way you can remove them if you want, though I don't know why you would want to
[17:44:03] <Humz>	sorry, i've never used irc before, trying to figure it out
[17:44:17] <[-jon-]>	Prodego: I was just wondering if someone else was violating the license
[17:44:51] <Humz>	alright, about the index.php prompting to save instead of loading in the browser
[17:45:28] <Humz>	what should i do?
[17:46:41] <Humz>	running WinXP/IIS/MySQL/PHP 5
[17:47:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Clean up duplicate code between Special:WantedPages, WantedFiles, WantedTemplates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18151  +comment (10Eugene.Zelenko)
[17:48:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Installing revision 37404 breaks the system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18154 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CrossNamespaceLinks; (Gerard.meijssen)
[17:49:02] <Humz>	i'm running mediawiki 1.9.2
[17:49:17] <Humz>	upgrade?
[17:49:42] <ialex>	yes
[17:50:21] <Prodego>	ialex: how is configure going?
[17:50:26] <Prodego>	Humz: yes, you should
[17:50:52] <ialex>	Prodego: slowly
[17:51:27] <Prodego>	what have you been working on lately? 
[17:52:30] <ialex>	changed extensions definitions to use a text file (like Translate do)
[17:52:53] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48837 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fix url params for multi-item deletion by converting to CVS
[17:53:15] <ialex>	but still need tweaks before being installed on Wikimedia
[17:53:51] <Prodego>	I hope to one day see it ported to mediawiki itself... maybe in a year or so
[17:54:16] <Prodego>	the missing backend
[17:54:29] <ialex>	the backend is the problem ;)
[17:55:19] <MrZ-man>	we should go a whole year with no new releases, then just call the release after that MediaWiki 2.0, "With 4 times as many new features as previous releases"
[17:55:26] <Humz>	so the wiki for winXP install is just old? I though it wouldn't work on anything newer than 1.9.2
[17:55:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Clean up duplicate code between Special:WantedPages, WantedFiles, WantedTemplates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18151  (10Eugene.Zelenko)
[17:56:04] <Prodego>	MrZ-man: if you changed MW to support something like configure (without the hackiness) that would be 2.0 :)
[17:56:15] <MrZ-man>	my way is easier
[17:56:20] <ialex>	Humz: 1.14 should work on Windows
[17:56:28] <Humz>	i'm not that tech savy, this is my first shot at a wiki
[17:56:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Installing revision 37404 breaks the system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18154  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[17:56:51] <Humz>	please go easy on me here.  1.14=safe  tahnks
[17:57:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Watchlist-like functionality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18155 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (Eugene.Zelenko)
[18:05:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Installing revision 37404 breaks the system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18154  (10Gerard.meijssen)
[18:07:09] <Humz>	upgrade solved the problem, thanks a ton
[18:12:48] <Humz>	firefox still has the issue of prompting to save the index.php even after the 1.14 upgrade
[18:12:56] <Humz>	is that normal?
[18:15:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Make regex errors user visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18156 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (rohde)
[18:21:34] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48838 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: fix for old image deletion log params
[18:25:41] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48839 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: (bug 15814) Filter log chunk at Special:RevisionDelete to selected items
[18:25:56] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Special:RevisionDelete should have clearer logs for individual revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15814  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[18:33:02] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48840 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: Don't filter log if there are a lot of relevant items
[18:34:02] <tomaszf>	is there an equivalent function to wfGetLB() that gets us any slave instead of the master?
[18:34:49] <flyingparchment>	tomaszf: look at what wfGetDB(DB_SLAVE) does
[18:34:57] <tomaszf>	wfGetDB( DB_SLAVE ... ) .. ?
[18:35:04] <tomaszf>	yup ... just saw it
[18:35:10] <tomaszf>	thanks
[18:35:12] <flyingparchment>	it returns a database connection to a slave 
[18:35:26] <domas>	tomaszf: may want to check if index is 0, and at least print warning then
[18:36:05] <tomaszf>	fair enough
[18:36:07] <Aaron|away>	domas: it can be the master sometimes though, right?
[18:36:22] <domas>	yes, DB_SLAVE can return master
[18:36:24] <ialex>	on wikis that don't use replication
[18:36:33] <domas>	even on wikis that use replication
[18:36:36] <domas>	depends on load weights
[18:36:41] <ialex>	yes
[18:36:42] <domas>	and availability of slaves
[18:36:43] <domas>	and such
[18:36:52] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48841 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/shared.css: Revert 48829: actually, keep the monospace, but ditch the 'small' size
[18:37:13] <domas>	oh, by the way
[18:37:23] <domas>	we need AJAX recentchanges browser, that would use API! :)
[18:37:32] <domas>	instead of current RC code! :)
[18:37:38] <domas>	that would be so much better!
[18:37:56] <ialex>	{{sodoit}} ;)
[18:38:07] <domas>	oh, I did first major step already
[18:38:12] <domas>	by reducing the RC page limits! :)
[18:38:22] <domas>	it wasn't working anyway with big limits
[18:38:30] <domas>	ialex: I didn't break mediawiki to its current state
[18:38:54] <domas>	ialex: you know, to write a line in a list one can use less than 5ms to format it
[18:50:52] <Danny_B>	how many changes can i display most on rc page?
[18:52:24] <totalwormage>	is it possible to embed certain sections of a page like a template?
[18:56:53] <ialex>	Danny_B: 500
[18:58:09] <Danny_B>	ialex: thx,i already got a response on wmtech it has been cut to 500. i wasn't sure if it's in config or in code
[19:19:34] <Duesentrieb>	Danny_B: you may get more via the api i think.
[19:19:43] <Duesentrieb>	at least if you are registered as a bot
[19:19:54] <Duesentrieb>	or use the toolsever :)
[19:29:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Provide a {{trim}} function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18157 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (rene.kijewski)
[19:32:45] <ende>	test
[19:32:58] <ende>	ok, sorry, client is being weird 
[19:35:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Creation of new mailing list for handling eswiki oversight requests - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18117  (10pdsanchez)
[19:39:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) A {{strlen}} (core) function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18158 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (rene.kijewski)
[20:01:06] <CIA-60>	03raymond * r48842 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[20:01:06] <CIA-60>	* Add CSS defintion of the 'wikitable' class to shared.css. Style copied from enwiki.
[20:01:06] <CIA-60>	A lot of core and extension tables use this class but without the definition it is useless, espescially on third party installations.
[20:03:11] *ialex 	was going to do that o_O
[20:05:43] <Raymond_>	:P=
[20:05:45] <Raymond_>	:P
[20:07:31] <CIA-60>	03aaron * r48843 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: 
[20:07:31] <CIA-60>	* Changes to r48839
[20:07:31] <CIA-60>	** Fix typo, missing "count"
[20:07:31] <CIA-60>	** Add match boundaries
[20:08:32] <ThomasV>	Raymond_: could you sync ProofreadPage? I made another fix after werdna went to bed
[20:08:32] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r48844 10/trunk/extensions/Interwiki/ (SpecialInterwiki.css SpecialInterwiki_body.php): Follow-up r48842: use the "wikitable" CSS style since it's now in core
[20:09:29] <Raymond_>	ThomasV: I would if I could... but I cannot. I have shell access to translatewiki only but not to WMF wikis
[20:09:43] <ThomasV>	i see
[20:10:52] <Raymond_>	ialex: I hope it stays in core...
[20:11:40] <ialex>	Raymond_: we'll see
[20:14:35] <CIA-60>	03ialex * r48845 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialPrefixindex.php: Use "prefix" rather than "from" for the textbox'y name so that it *really* only show subpages
[20:16:34] <Mike_lifeguard>	haha, "# (bug 10336) Added new magic word Mike.lifeguard, which displays the user name of the last user to edit the page (pinky, r48149)" on the release notes for next site update :DD
[20:16:42] *Mike_lifeguard 	is special
[20:18:32] <Marybelle>	Heh.
[20:20:12] <ialex>	Mike_lifeguard: because it's parsed ;)
[20:25:45] <Raymond_>	Aaron can you give me a short caption/heading for the 2nd table on http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Markierungsstatistik pls? 
[20:26:06] <CIA-60>	03thomasv * r48846 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: removing single mode
[20:34:47] <Mike_lifeguard>	oh, did we update yet? or is that still imminent?
[20:36:49] <Reedy>	I think we did..
[20:38:18] <rsimpkins>	Is there an easy way to include recent changes in other pages besides the special recent pages page?
[20:40:12] <ialex>	Mike_lifeguard: it was updated some hours ago
[20:40:44] <Mike_lifeguard>	ok, sweet
[20:40:54] *Mike_lifeguard 	uses the new features!!
[20:43:02] <funkja>	Is it possible to put a link in my skin that changes a visitors skin to a different one for the session?
[20:44:47] <Mike_lifeguard>	werdna: Where is the page-move filter you've been touting? stops 70% of pagemove vandalism with 2-3% false positives etc?
[20:49:55] <Aaron|away>	Raymond_: why does it have to be short?
[20:52:19] <Raymond_>	AaronSchulz: I am playing a bit with the table and want to add a row with the description as first row (with colspan over all cols)
[20:52:58] <AaronSchulz>	you can try "Overview", but I'd have to peek at it
[20:54:00] <Raymond_>	a bit more descriptive? nobody knows what "Pxx" means...
[20:54:42] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Please create a mailing list for Wikimedia Hong Kong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18159 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (jerry.tschan.yu)
[20:54:47] <AaronSchulz>	that's the first table
[20:55:13] <Raymond_>	AaronSchulz: oh yes. sorry. I mean the first table *hides*
[20:57:23] <AaronSchulz>	Raymond_: you can use "percentile" as one row and 'wait' as the one below that
[20:59:15] <Raymond_>	AaronSchulz: ok thanks
[21:15:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Ability to define variables within a filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18160 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard)
[21:20:30] <VasilievVV>	Mike_lifeguard: it was in my original (maybe even the pre-commit) version of parser. Later I (not sure though) removed it, most probably because it seemed useless
[21:20:47] <Mike_lifeguard>	useless? O___o
[21:20:52] <Mike_lifeguard>	heresy!
[21:20:56] <tekmosis>	I'm trying to use transclusion, which, works fine for linking to pages but when trying to use it for templates it gives off a "Template fetch failed". Does anyone have experience with this particular issue?
[21:21:03] *Mike_lifeguard 	stones VasilievVV :P
[21:29:08] <VasilievVV>	Mike_lifeguard: anyway, how do you imagine user-specified variable support in AbuseFilter?
[21:30:15] <Mike_lifeguard>	Well for blocking spam in particular, we will want a massive regex, which you don't want to repeat more than once
[21:30:30] <Mike_lifeguard>	and I'm sure other filters could use it
[21:32:15] <VasilievVV>	Mike_lifeguard: Be sure we don't like you using it repeatedly if it's a massive regex :)
[21:33:15] <Mike_lifeguard>	Well the whole spam blacklist is basically one huge regex (well, it gets split up internally, but still)
[21:33:29] <Mike_lifeguard>	and if we want a replacement for spamblacklist, then that regex has to go somewhere...
[21:34:01] <Mike_lifeguard>	Although I very much doubt that will happen for a Very Long Time
[21:34:49] <VasilievVV>	Mike_lifeguard: my first idea is to allow define sections in the beginning of filters like this: define { regex : "aa" ; somelist : "a;b;c" } added_lines rlike $regex | user_name in $somelist
[21:35:28] <Mike_lifeguard>	if it can be done, I suspect it'd be very useful
[21:44:58] <MrZ-man>	it might also be nice to be able to use capture groups in regexes
[21:59:34] <fr33kman>	Hi all, I've checked the mediawiki tech manual for the history limit for Import Pages. I can't find the limit there however, does anyone know this off the top of their heads? If not I'll open a request. I'm an admin at simple English wp
[22:01:06] <Marybelle>	1,000 revisions, I think.
[22:01:18] <ialex>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgExportMaxHistory
[22:02:11] <ialex>	'default' => 1000
[22:03:08] <Marybelle>	'wgExportMaxHistory' => array( 
[22:03:08] <Marybelle>	    'default' => 1000, # changed from 100 -- brion 2008-07-10
[22:05:15] *Mike_lifeguard 	wants an increase to 10000 or something XD
[22:06:00] <fr33kman>	So it can be changed
[22:06:53] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Inconsistent separators in Watchlist with and without "enhanced recent changes" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18161 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (happy-melon)
[22:07:03] <fr33kman>	Okay thanks  all! :)
[22:07:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Inconsistent separators in Watchlist with and without "enhanced recent changes" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18161  15enhancement->minor (10happy-melon)
[22:07:55] <wikibugs>	03(RESOLVED) Don't hardcode separation strings, make them configurable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7509  (10happy-melon)
[22:15:56] <krunk-|work>	howdy
[22:16:24] <krunk-|work>	I have the following entry in my LocalSettings.php => $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false;
[22:16:36] <krunk-|work>	but newly registered users can still start editing right away
[22:16:49] <svip>	How many templates can *one* article contain?
[22:18:20] <Prodego>	krunk-|work: * refers to non-registered users
[22:18:26] <Prodego>	'user' refers to users
[22:18:36] <Prodego>	and 'autoconfirmed' refers to established users
[22:18:52] <Prodego>	try setting edit true on autoconfirmed and false on user
[22:18:59] <Prodego>	(but I am not sure why would want to do that
[22:19:00] <krunk-|work>	Prodego: ah, gotcha
[22:19:06] <Prodego>	also, if you do that
[22:19:19] <Prodego>	make sure you aren't requiring a certain number of edits to be autoconfirmed
[22:19:28] <Prodego>	because obviously they can't make them
[22:19:31] <krunk-|work>	I thought * globbed for all categories (e.g. users, sysops, etc
[22:19:48] <Prodego|away>	krunk-|work: it does, but the user group also has edit
[22:19:52] <Prodego|away>	so it overrides *
[22:20:19] <krunk-|work>	I'm digging for the page on this, but autoconfirmed implies? What we want is users to not be able to edit unless approved
[22:32:09] <krunk-|work>	Prodego|away: I think there may be concerns about spam
[22:37:58] <lacos>	Hi. I have read some wikimedia and wikipedia pages and have the impression that parallelizing bzip2 decompression could be useful in some cases. (I can provide the links if you wish.) I've written such a program (lbzip2), that is, a multi-threaded bzip2/bunzip2 filter (for SMP, not clusters). There is also pbzip2. Each of pbzip2 and lbzip2 has features that the other one has not.
[22:39:46] <lacos>	For example, if someone wishes to import a bz2 dump on a many-core server, and bz2 decompression is the bottleneck, lbzip2 could help.
[22:40:33] <domas>	lacos: at some point in time we even had pbzip2 made distributed over cluster :)
[22:40:50] <domas>	and yes, parallelized compression/decompression is handy
[22:43:38] <lacos>	So is this a solved problem (or no problem at all)? The pages I checked provided no clear status on this.
[22:44:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create approved Finnish Wikiversity [fi] (January 2009) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16977  (10brion)
[22:44:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activate Collection Extension for generating PDF on the French Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16178  (10brion)
[22:45:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install Labeled Section Transclusion for dewikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17773  (10brion)
[22:51:06] <ThomasV>	omg brion does bugzilla during his sleep
[23:02:35] <RobH>	argh, thats all work for me!
[23:03:02] *RobH 	mutters something about brion only gives me work when he sleeps???
[23:04:19] <ende>	I  have a wide table on a page on my mediawiki server.  Many many columns.  It gets squished together within the size of the window, but I've seen mediawiki installations where a horizontal scroll would just appear
[23:04:32] <ende>	is there some setting in LocalSettings.php I can set to change that behavior?
[23:06:37] <werdna>	ohai
[23:07:39] <uberfuzzy>	how do you whitelist tags so that the sanitizer doesnt encode them?
[23:08:31] <werdna>	there's a list somewhere in Sanitizer.php
[23:08:51] <uberfuzzy>	ok, thats a start. thanks
[23:10:00] <porter1>	Are there any search engine improvement extensions? I'm trying to get search to accept special characters
[23:13:57] <Wateva>	Hi guys..
[23:14:08] <Wateva>	I'm having some issues when adding pictures to my wiki..
[23:14:10] <Wateva>	Could not copy file "/tmp/php26bNex" to "/var/virtual/www.tibiaauto.net/wiki/images/2/2e/TibiaAuto.jpg".
[23:14:15] <Wateva>	care to help?
[23:15:37] <OverlordQ>	check folder permissions
[23:15:53] <Wateva>	image?
[23:16:43] <Wateva>	it's on 777..
[23:17:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) "Paragraphs" in citations should not break into separate columns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18162 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (thinboy00)
[23:18:27] <Wateva>	well, only images was on 777, all subfolders were 644..
[23:19:38] <Wateva>	thanks OverlordQ.. ;)
[23:52:18] <Duxa>	Can anyone help me with HTMLdoc install ?