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[00:00:02] brion: these hard-coded spaces are inexcusable! We should use wfMsg( 'word-seperator' ); instead of a space wherever possible. Also, hard coded letters are bad too, that's what we have wfMsg( 'letter-a' ) and the like for, no? [00:00:10] :D [00:02:19] there should be a wfMsg('null-letter-separator') as well [00:02:24] for example, instead of saying "hello, brion!", we should be more localization-friendly and have wfMsg( 'letter-h' ) . wfMsg( 'letter-e' ) . wfMsg( 'letter-l' ) . wfMsg( 'letter-l' ) . wfMsg( 'letter-o' ) . wfMsg( 'punctuation-symbol-comma' ) . wfMsg( 'word-separator' ) . wfMsg( 'letter-b' ) . wfMsg( 'letter-r' ) . wfMsg( 'letter-i' ) . wfMsg( 'letter-o' ) . wfMsg( 'letter-n' ) . wfMsg( 'punctuation-symbol-exclamation-mark' ) instead [00:02:25] and of course, between each letter combo [00:02:39] wfMsg('null-letter-separator-a-a') wfMsg('null-letter-separator-a-b') wfMsg('null-letter-separator-a-c') [00:02:42] SO much more cleaner [00:02:49] and for each unicode character [00:02:57] Splarka: oh, of course. my bad [00:02:58] some languages have odd spacing after all [00:03:18] loco-ization [00:05:29] ooh, ooh! and we need something to denote the beginning and end of a line as well, just in case they want to do something with that [00:08:01] Skizzerz: and of course, every nTh position in a block level element [00:08:16] wfMsg('inline-text-position-0') wfMsg('inline-text-position-1') wfMsg('inline-text-position-2') [00:09:07] yes, that would be best [00:09:23] but wait, shouldn't we localize the message names as well? [00:12:45] Skizzerz: and html attributes [00:12:57] and all of CSS [00:13:05] actually, this reminds me of a bug on bugzilla [00:13:26] !bug 17906 [00:13:26] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17906 [00:16:59] hello [00:17:12] Skizzerz: [00:17:27] whee [00:17:37] <^demon> Mmmm, so full from dinner :D [00:20:22] I have a config ?? I moved wiki site files from domain-dir/ into sub-dir domain-dir/wiki what should I change in LocalSettings.php ?? thank you in advance [00:20:36] $wgScriptPath [00:23:49] Skizzerz: would I just change it from $wgScriptPath = ""; to $wgScriptPath = "/Wiki"; [00:24:02] uh, case might matter [00:24:20] Skizzerz: ok, thanks [00:26:57] var trc = tr[i].getAttribute('class').split(' ') [00:27:02] if(/mw\-codereview\-(not)live/.test(trc[j])) live = trc[j].substring(14) [00:27:02] if(trc[j].substring(0,21) == 'mw-codereview-status-') status = trc[j].substring(21) [00:27:04] *hate* [00:28:05] *Splarka hopes the class names are not going to be localized [00:28:21] <_benny> Good evening [00:28:25] <_benny> :) [00:29:08] <_benny> i have a few questions :) [00:30:32] <_benny> is it possible to watch every new written and rewritten post as admin? or get a email if some post change? [00:31:31] yes [00:32:22] <_benny> where am i supposed to configure that? [00:32:39] it is a sort of obscure setting... [00:33:03] <_benny> ok you mean i have to recode something? [00:33:06] *Splarka can never remember the name [00:33:47] <_benny> maybe some hint where i can find it? [00:33:48] $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges [00:34:07] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges [00:34:45] <_benny> thats it... perfect! thank you very much :) [00:34:54] rar [00:35:26] 03aaron * r48945 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/FlaggedRevs.i18n.php: Tweaked revreview-locked/revreview-unlocked [00:36:39] *Splarka creates a macro for that, easy to remember: [00:36:42] !paranoid [00:36:42] --mwbot-- You can be notified of every edit by setting up email, enabling email notificiation, and then adding yourself to the $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges array. See . [00:37:00] <_benny> lol [00:37:05] (seems asked often enough, if rarely) [00:39:17] <_benny> so it should be in the FAQ :) [00:40:03] well, not asked /that/ much [00:40:51] 03aaron * r48946 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/language/FlaggedRevs.i18n.php: Split off revreview-(un)locked into revreview-(un)locked-title [00:43:21] Total revisions: 100. [OK: 6, diff�r�: 32, notlive: 100, nouveau: 61, r�solu: 1] [00:43:27] Total revisions: 100. [OK: 5, erledigt: 1, neu: 62, notlive: 100, zur�ckgestellt: 32] [00:43:34] is there any way i can make a template that generates in the page it is used? [00:44:31] some people have had success with clude> stuff clude> [00:45:01] 03aaron * r48947 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Add edit notice to stabilized pages [00:47:50] Splarka: seems to actually show the text '' verbatim [00:48:10] hmm, mighta been the old parser that worked on [00:48:43] a bit old this wiki i have here, so i guess it can work in the newer one [00:48:48] generally what you want isn't possible but there are hacks [00:50:15] yeah, could be nice with a second level noinclude... [00:50:32] 03(mod) mwsuggest.js should not return redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16145 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:50:35] 14(DUP) Configuration search form suggest - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18212 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:54:27] 14(DUP) new message for no changes by using "show changes" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18215 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:54:29] 03(mod) If there are no differences between two revisions, then say "No differences". - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14431 +comment (10innocentkiller) [00:55:11] brion: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki?limit=200&uselang=de (purge) [00:56:25] the live/notlive is just a class so I can't localize it [00:57:52] <^demon> Search for dupes b4 posting new bugs kthnx. [00:58:47] ^demon: fix http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Splarka/stupid_bug_names kthx [00:59:12] that's just a very small subset too [00:59:27] (checked all ~600 open extension bugs) [01:02:21] 14761 Googlepie: too few colors [01:06:10] some names have been fixed since I made the list, but not all, heh [01:06:29] 03(NEW) Bugzilla landing page should point to mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18216 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (innocentkiller) [01:07:31] <^demon> Alrighty, I'm off for the evening. Later folks :) [01:07:33] *^demon waves [01:15:15] wtf @ last bug wikibugs spewed out... [01:19:59] 03(mod) Differentiate between manual and automatic account creations in #central IRC notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18214 summary; +comment (10brion) [01:26:25] 03(mod) E-mail notify when a followup rev is made - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18211 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:30:01] how do I access wgSitename in MonoBook.php? I"m a mediawiki and php noob :( [01:30:16] I tried putting global $wgSitename at the top of the function, but that didn't do it [01:31:07] I don't care if it's the same var.. if it's set somewhere else.. I just need the value [01:33:09] 14(INVALID) Unexpected level in FlaggedRevs on pl.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18210 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [01:38:37] 03(NEW) Additional namespace aliases for cuwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18217 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (oil_shtab) [01:45:26] 03(mod) Additional namespace aliases for cuwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18217 +shell (10p858snake) [01:47:57] 03tstarling * r48948 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/ (25 files in 2 dirs): Work to date on SecurePoll, the new generic voting extension derived from BoardVote. [02:09:38] 03(NEW) Feature request: Who submitted a specific bit of text? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18218 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (irrevenoid) [02:16:59] 03(mod) Feature request: Who submitted a specific bit of text? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18218 (10irrevenoid) [02:20:56] 03(NEW) Indicate when viewing old revision in the browser title bar (ie. page title) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18219 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (irrevenoid) [02:29:18] anyone knows how http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Happy-melon/Archive_9#Lowercasing ended? [02:29:52] how the 'Logs' in the toolbox remained capitalized but the one in special:contributions not? [02:33:32] lemme guess, you want the same thing for "Deleted user contributions | User rights management" [02:33:40] the solution is two different messages [02:34:25] werdna is already doing that for several messages, I believe [02:34:34] *Splarka pokles wern [02:35:05] Werdna, did you split MediaWiki:Deletedcontributions yet? [02:35:07] yeah werdna deleted the user rights management one [02:35:42] deleted contributions in special:contribs is already ok [02:36:39] and is it still okay on Special:SpecialPages? [02:37:41] actually... it's lower case there, so stands out O_o [02:37:46] yes [02:37:54] so it is still a problem [02:38:09] but Werdna may have fixed it on trunk [02:38:11] how was it managed for Logs? [02:38:18] by making it two different messages [02:38:21] same as this [02:39:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/48119 [02:39:47] - $tools[] = $sk->makeKnownLinkObj( SpecialPage::getTitleFor( 'Log' ), wfMsgHtml( 'log' ), [02:39:47] + $tools[] = $sk->makeKnownLinkObj( SpecialPage::getTitleFor( 'Log' ), wfMsg( 'sp-contributions-logs' ), [02:40:21] ahh [02:40:22] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/48906 [02:40:26] yep, already fixed [02:40:30] should be live Tuesday [02:45:02] ok, thanks then [03:25:40] 03aaron * r48949 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/Stabilization_body.php: Fix bug that made diff show on stability changes for no reason [04:17:28] 03(mod) mention one can export via the API too (much more flexible) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17871 (10jidanni) [04:38:24] 03(mod) Hiding categories via CSS violates accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15637 trivial->normal; summary; +comment (10jidanni) [04:48:20] ello [04:48:27] i'm having probems installing checkuser [04:48:30] http://pastebin.ca/1374603 [04:48:43] note i'm using postgres [04:50:05] using postgres 8.3.7, mediawiki 1.14.0 [04:50:16] (sorry, had to gather the versions up :p) [04:50:32] PHP 5.2.9 if you need that too [04:51:31] how can i add page size to old posts page tabe? [05:18:48] ahh after much googling i believe i have fixed it :) [05:19:12] it's a bug, although minor. [05:23:41] wait never mind [05:23:44] PEBKAC [05:25:43] nope i was wrong. [05:25:53] CheckUser isn't selecting the mediawiki schema on postgres :} [05:25:55] *:| [05:36:03] NICK bobf [05:36:15] Bob_, fail. [05:36:16] :p [05:38:06] I'm trying to access a MW site using the API but I'm getting a 403 forbidden error. I can access the URL via Firefox without a problem. I looked through some docs and did some searches but couldn't find anything that looked like a potential solution. Any ideas? [05:43:24] is it a Wikimedia site? [05:44:04] The site in question is https://cabig-kc.nci.nih.gov/Vocab/KC/api.php [05:44:29] bobf: the API might not be enabled [05:44:31] The URL, accessible via browser but not Perl script, is https://cabig-kc.nci.nih.gov/Vocab/KC/api.php?action=query&list=allpages&aplimit=max [05:44:32] some sites block some user agents [05:44:55] like Wikimedia sites block default user agents of many wget-type scripts [05:45:06] possibly similar [05:45:11] I set the UA to Mozilla. I posted example code at http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=753717, if you're interested. [05:45:48] the rest of the headers the same? [05:46:22] I'm not sure, to be honest. I haven't checked yet. [05:46:30] What might I be looking for? [05:47:44] no idea, it'd be whatever they're blocking, heh [05:47:53] :-) [05:47:55] does your perl script operate over https? [05:48:06] port um.. 403 I think? [05:48:18] It should. I have the Crypt::SSLeay module installed, which provides that support. [05:59:21] Ah, after comparing the headers it looks like the script might be doing a POST while the browser does a GET. [05:59:40] shouldn't matter [05:59:57] Hmm. Then I guess I'm back to being stumped. [06:00:05] everything that works in GET should work in POST (some parameters need values in POST and don't in GET) in theory [06:00:25] hmm, well, try it in GET maybe [06:00:44] try it on a WMF wiki too maybe, like http://test.wikipedia.org/w/api.php [06:01:18] Will do - hang on [06:03:00] splarka do you know of a way to pass a unique identifier (article page title) ? I need to pull a unique id for a video extension... [06:03:48] the article's numerical ID? [06:04:15] stays with it if it moves [06:04:27] hmm wher is the numerical id? [06:04:55] is in the JS globals, hang on [06:05:06] var wgArticleId [06:05:15] from $wgTitle->getArticleId() [06:05:34] ok thanks for the tip i am going to read up on that [06:06:33] if you want the title regardless of whether it exists or is moved, $wgTitle->getPrefixedDBKey() or $wgTitle->getText() might interest you [06:09:25] to implement that into the dhflashplayer ...pertinent part here http://pastebin.com/m4215e141 [06:09:33] could you offer a recommendation ? [06:09:44] http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9282/vennsy7.jpg [06:10:05] :) [06:10:54] I guess global the $wgTitle and call the article id thingy, or something [06:11:14] I'm afraid I can't find the issue. Are there some most-likely config vars that I should ask the site maintainers to check? [06:12:15] bob: works on test.wp? [06:12:26] ok I'm not a programmer so trying to understand that... [06:12:38] bobf: try https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/w/api.php too [06:12:47] It appears to. I dumped the output and the content looked encoded - didn't go any farther than that. No errors as far as I could tell. [06:13:47] Same thing. Response 200 OK. [06:16:55] hmmmm [06:17:00] I wonder [06:17:25] bobf: I get an invalid certificate authority from that site, I wonder if perl is the rejector in this case [06:18:23] Verifying... [06:19:29] say if I have a table with lots of entries, and the user has to do some action on some of the entries [06:19:37] including entering a comment [06:19:45] That's interesting. I also get 'client-ssl-warning' => 'Peer certificate not verified' in the response object. [06:20:01] what's better: an ajax-style fake popup, a real popup, or navigating to another page and then back again? [06:20:45] TimStarling: ajax [06:20:47] I get an XML doc from the server, though... [06:21:45] Access forbidden! [06:21:46] [06:21:50] You don\'t have permission to access the requested object. [06:21:52] It is either read-protected or not readable by the server. 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[06:22:09] Tim: how much information has to be displayed? too much for alert() or prompt() ? [06:22:09] cabig-kc.nci.nih.gov
[06:22:11] Sat Mar 28 02:18:28 2009
[06:22:13] Apache [06:22:15] etc... [06:22:18] pastebin dude [06:22:25] (next time) [06:22:35] Sorry - don't know about pastebin... [06:22:39] Splarka: probably too much [06:22:50] !pastebin | bobf [06:22:50] --mwbot-- bobf: Please do not paste more than 2-3 lines of text into the channel as it disrupts the flow of conversation. Instead please use a pastebin such as and post a link to your paste in the channel. [06:23:20] Ah - thanks [06:24:02] Tim: yah, floating absolute position top z-index div [06:24:24] not sure if that is "ajax-like" [06:24:35] gonna have a non-JS fallback? [06:24:39] *Splarka hides [06:24:57] I love me some javascript, but the usages it is put to make me cry, I browse with javascript off [06:25:03] OK - pasted here: http://mediawiki.pastey.net/111099 (sorry for the spam) [06:25:33] http://www.methods.co.nz/popup/popup_demo.html [06:25:40] like the modal message box here? [06:26:28] bobf: no idea then, you'll have to pokle them, or find out how to spoof Mozilla even better ^_^ [06:27:03] there won't be a non-JS fallback, but it's for a restricted audience [06:27:05] *Splarka cries at those examples [06:27:07] I was afraid of that. :-) OK, thanks very much for the help. [06:27:13] i.e. vote admins [06:27:37] hmm [06:27:40] will it be fetching content via ajax before display? or will the info already be there? [06:27:50] at least I wasn't intending on having a fallback [06:27:52] modal is very annoying while waiting for a request [06:28:06] heh [06:28:12] it'll all be there, the user won't have to wait at all [06:28:43] what will trigger it? onmousemove/down/up? onkeypress/down/up? onsubmit? onclick? [06:29:18] personally I find a modal message box on a non-click very annoying, but others might not [06:29:21] unless I wanted to show logs... [06:29:46] you probably haven't seen the admin interface from BoardVote, have you? [06:29:49] will it be halting a default action like click/submit? [06:29:50] haha, no [06:30:11] so the new one will be a TablePager, you know what that is right? [06:30:16] mostly what I can tell you is what I find annoying in javascript [06:30:38] if you mean the snazzy some-sortable-column result UI, yah [06:30:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles ? [06:31:00] yes, like that, it will list all the votes [06:31:03] remember, I tried to help you style it and we broke opera [06:31:25] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tchaikovskys_family_in_1848_From_left_to_right_sitting_Alexandra_Andreevna_Tchaikovska_Alexandra_Ippolit_Ilya_Petrovitch_Tchai_Family_2.jpg [06:31:29] *facepalm* [06:31:56] sometimes people vote more than once, with different accounts [06:32:19] and then one of the duplicate votes has to be struck [06:32:23] vote early, vote often [06:32:52] the old interface was not paged, it would show a few thousand votes in a table, with a column full of "strike" links [06:33:11] and when you clicked "strike", it would strike the vote and reload the multi-megabyte page [06:33:16] it was kind of annoying [06:33:45] now it's paged so reloading wouldn't be so terribly painful [06:34:06] but still, the idea is to have strike links that you click on, and then they'll pop up a confirmation box, and you'll click submit to strike it [06:34:23] then presumably an async request will be dispatched to strike it on the server, and when it returns, the HTML will be updated [06:34:33] ahh, pretty simple then [06:34:45] I'd just use prompt() myself, but that is a bit boring and not at all 2.0 [06:35:00] or er... [06:35:14] confirm() [06:35:19] well, it might be useful to increase the amount of information available in the confirmation box [06:36:46] var a = confirm('This is a vast amount of text\n\nBut it does all mostly fit\n\nHELLO WORLD\n\nSee?') [06:36:51] no formatting though [06:37:08] for unstriking especially, then you want to see why the person before you struck it [06:37:38] *Splarka has put a meg or so into alert() accidentally, works, just not readable [06:37:41] and if you have a strike log, you want to have links in it [06:37:53] ahh, right, out goes confirm() [06:40:02] the alternative I guess would be to not have a strike log and to use prompt() to get the reason from the user [06:40:26] would be an order of magnitude less code, wouldn't it? [06:40:58] well, ~20 lines, hang on [06:49:57] TimStarling: http://p.defau.lt/?ql_kef0tMt6l05A_dVW3gA quick knockup [06:50:33] presumably it looks better with Content-Type: text/html [06:51:06] hey, I can't do everything for you [06:51:12] copy/paste it to a local .html and open it with file:// [06:51:31] or set up a raw html pastebin ^_^ [06:52:15] it could be a bit simpler than that, but a prompt() or confirm() can reduce it to one line, yah [06:52:39] this recycles the same popup box to save time, other scripts will generate them on the fly [06:52:56] yeah, looks pretty nice, thanks for that [06:53:18] enjoy, I think it is omnibrowser, but there might be probs with offsetHeight in older IE [06:53:40] also, public domain^ [06:55:33] note for non-js fallback: if you want to have a "return false;" cancel a submit, you need to use button.onclick or a literal , using an eventListener/attachEvent (via addClickHandler in wikibits.js) can't abort a submit that way [06:56:25] but in other respects the addHandler is better, lets you add multiple events to the same onWhatever [06:59:15] damn, xchat sucks so much [06:59:27] edit source file, alt-tab, ctrl-R to reload firefox [07:00:04] except it alt-tab went to IRC instead and ctrl-R is one of xchat's many shortcuts to disconnect you from IRC without the slightest warning [07:01:09] heh, I prefer to do a back/forward when editing (for local files anyway), alt-leftarrow alt-rightarrow [07:07:00] 03(mod) Edit summary reminder preference conflicts with CAPTCHA extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10729 (10church.of.emacs.ml) [07:08:05] 03(mod) Edit summary reminder preference conflicts with CAPTCHA extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10729 (10church.of.emacs.ml) [07:12:14] I'm integrating this, no doubt it'll work just fine [07:12:36] I'll credit you of course, Splarka [07:12:45] PD or no [07:14:04] no prob ^_^ [07:14:32] do people like to attribute PD just for the "I didn't actually steal this" feeling? [07:14:37] heh [07:14:59] Britannica's new user-submittable site stole one of my pictures off commons, crediting me but not commons (PD) [07:15:33] yeah, they're not fooling anyone though [07:15:41] everyone knows they're a wikipedia rip-off [07:16:15] "Leave Britannica Alone I Really Mean It!" [07:21:53] hello [07:21:58] rar [07:22:19] 03(mod) Support W3C geolocation API for in-browser geographic search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15957 (10brion) [07:24:30] what happened to the bug tuesdays or whatever? [07:28:18] brion did it! [07:28:30] although i have no idea what your talking about >.> [07:29:43] the push to fix trivial bugs once a week [07:33:11] It became Bug Day. [07:33:13] And then died. [07:50:38] 03(NEW) php maintenance/update.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18220 blocker; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Drafts; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [07:52:17] 03purodha * r48950 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/Drafts.sql: (Bug 18220) Table prefix correctly added when "drafts" table is created. [07:52:42] 03(FIXED) php maintenance/update.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18220 +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [07:52:51] Heh. [08:13:31] Evening, what is the current recomended way to delete a page or user and its associated history in its entirety (Say in the case of spam users and their User:Talk page) [08:14:10] For the latest minor release of MW [08:14:23] !deleteuser [08:14:23] --mwbot-- Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with . You can also try [08:14:33] eyecue: Read that. ^ :-) [08:14:39] Read it :] [08:15:02] On that page is mentions the lack of referential integrity, but then goes on to mention the user merge and delete extension [08:15:23] But im assuming the UMD extension does not apply to pages themselves, only users, no ? [08:15:37] I believe so. [08:15:51] The problem with the UMD extension is reversability. [08:15:53] Further, one would imagine an extension could delete all related entries as well, no ? [08:15:54] Reversibility. * [08:15:57] Ah sure [08:16:02] Perm is perm of course [08:16:20] We've attempted quite a few tweaks and extensions on the wiki.miranda-im.org wiki [08:16:24] With some decent success [08:17:48] I've got an odd feeling about reCaptcha's efficacy these days too :| [08:18:13] Nearly any CAPTCHA is defeatable with enough effort. [08:18:26] I understand the literature, but still. [08:18:45] If i could figure out that the users registering were real people, id have less of an issue with it [08:18:47] *OverlordQ was working on trying to do the wikipedia one, but I gave up [08:18:55] reCAPTCHA is popular, so the likelihood of scripts defeating it is higher. [08:19:13] Well, you can always set up a confirmation step, eyecue. [08:19:17] There are extensions for things like that. [08:19:29] Is this a verify via email kinda of thing ? [08:19:36] Or confirmation captcha on reg/comment/pagecreate ? [08:19:46] !confirmaccount [08:19:46] --mwbot-- To require approval before accounts can edit, see . Alternatively, remove edit rights from all users, and create a new user group like "approved" with edit rights; a bureaucrat can then assign users to the "approved" group to allow them to edit. For more information about the alternative, see Mmm, bot fail. [08:20:02] Ah moderation of user creation [08:20:03] Cool [08:20:07] Right. [08:20:41] Id ideally love not to impose another hurdle to contribution :] [08:20:46] But thats a valid option, thanks [08:21:17] There's probably an option somewhere to require an e-mail account, but that's trivially defeatable too. [08:21:26] Of course, and i think we have [08:21:41] 03nikerabbit * r48951 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [08:21:41] * (bug 18190) Proper parsing in MediaWiki:Sharedupload message [08:21:41] * Also remove the lego thing: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support#shareduploadwiki-linktext_is_used_in_different_ways [08:21:48] We're using uh, confirmedit (required by reCaptcha ext), plus CSS regex stuff, and confirmation stuff too [08:21:53] TimStarling: Is there a valid reason for $wgMinimalPasswordLength's default to be 0? [08:22:23] You could try Wikimedia's CAPTCHA implementation. [08:22:24] 03(mod) Merge messages 'sharedupload' and 'shareduploadwiki'/'shareduploadwiki-desc' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14980 (10niklas.laxstrom) [08:22:33] 03(mod) Enable GRAMMAR magic word in MediaWiki:Sharedupload message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18190 (10niklas.laxstrom) [08:22:36] I don't think Wikimedia gets too many spam accounts per day (though I don't really look). [08:22:58] im talking like maybe, 4 a week'ish [08:23:04] where before the changes it was circa 3 a day [08:23:10] 03(NEW) Warning message regarding time zone setting in RecordAdmin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18221 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: RecordAdmin; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [08:25:06] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit#FancyCaptcha_addon [08:25:15] ta [08:25:17] been there too :} [08:25:31] will have to have a tinker and test empirically [08:25:39] !e Nuke [08:25:39] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke [08:25:40] eyecue: that extenstion can delete pages based on users and ect [08:25:54] thanks p8, been ther eas well :] [08:26:00] no mention of the ref-int problem though [08:26:14] not sure if i should trust the exclusion as evidence it takes care of it though ;) [08:26:23] It's enabled on Wikimedia wikis. [08:26:34] That means it's as safe as you're going to get. [08:26:41] nuke deletes related entries too ? [08:26:45] cool [08:26:52] No, just pages. [08:26:57] eyecue: nuke only deletes pages [08:26:59] It won't touch the user table. [08:27:05] ill rephrase [08:27:14] so if you merge all the spammers together then you should be able to nuke all their creations at once [08:27:16] everything other than user tables/entries [08:27:16] TimStarling: Is there a valid reason for $wgMinimalPasswordLength's default to be 0? [08:27:19] I'm not in the mood [08:27:23] go talk to bugzilla [08:27:28] Fair enough. [08:27:36] *eyecue crunches bigzilla [08:27:39] s/i/u [08:27:48] Marybelle; ta for the help [08:27:58] No problem. [08:28:24] p8; let me see if i understand, user-delete-and-merge to group the spammers and their creations, then nuke to delete pages by user ? [08:28:54] yes [08:29:14] awesome [08:50:46] 03(mod) Warning message regarding time zone setting in RecordAdmin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18221 (10niklas.laxstrom) [08:50:56] 03(NEW) $wgMinimalPasswordLength's default should be 1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18222 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (public) [09:03:53] Hi [09:04:20] (I guess it's very late in the US now - but maybe a lot of people are from Europe?) [09:05:32] sure [09:07:22] talk anyone german here? [09:07:51] In fact I have no question about Mediawiki, but I'll upgrade a server to a new machine through SSH, and I thought there are some people who could help in case I have a problem... [09:09:31] ok, I ask it in english: I have a problem to upload images. the rights for the case is 777 but it don`t work [09:09:53] !upload [09:09:53] --mwbot-- File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [09:11:21] thanks michaelzer, but I have check the localsettings file and it says: $wgEnableUploads= true; [09:11:24] =/ [09:12:00] for about few days it was everything ok, we have upload normaly pictures but then... this problem cames [09:15:37] 03(NEW) Allow sysops to edit abuse filters on dewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18223 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (church.of.emacs.ml) [09:17:26] 03ialex * r48952 10/trunk/extensions/ (9 files in 8 dirs): svn:eol-style native [09:20:10] 03(NEW) Missing space between links op the top of Spezial:RecordAdmin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18224 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: RecordAdmin; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [09:21:22] 03purodha * r48953 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: (Bug 18224) missing space (MediaWiki:pipe-separator) added. [09:21:53] 03(FIXED) Missing space between links op the top of Spezial:RecordAdmin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18224 +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [09:25:04] 03(NEW) Undefined constant in Extension:RecordAdmin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18225 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: RecordAdmin; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [09:35:44] 03(NEW) insecure code in Extension:RecordAdmin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18226 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: RecordAdmin; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [09:38:46] 03(mod) Provide "mark these n changes as patrolled" button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8697 +comment (10federicoleva) [09:43:08] 03(mod) mwsuggest.js should not return redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16145 (10abutko) [10:10:59] 03siebrand * r48954 10/trunk/extensions/ (19 files in 3 dirs): [10:10:59] * trailing whitespace removed [10:10:59] * stylize.php [10:18:25] 03siebrand * r48955 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/SecurePoll.i18n.php: [10:18:25]