tag on ganglia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14936 (10brion) [22:08:06] <Dewin> Is there a good "clean" source of standard Mediawiki templates comparable to the commonly-used ones on Wikipedia? I would just Special:Export those, but they're going into a "closed" project and I'm trying to avoid violating any licenses. [22:08:12] <brion> Marybelle: http://infodisiac.com/ ? [22:08:31] <Marybelle> Erik Zachte. That's the name I was looking for. :-) [22:10:06] <Marybelle> brion: Are per page view stats on Erik's agenda? Sites like http://stats.grok.se/ are fantastic, but they're run by individual volunteers, which is a bit .. messy. [22:11:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) The revision size is not available for old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [22:11:47] <wikibugs> 14(WFM) wiki// - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15752 +comment (10brion) [22:12:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Recalculate statistic data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15779 (10brion) [22:12:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [22:12:17] <brion> Marybelle: things are being slowly integrated :) [22:12:31] <brion> feel free to contact erik directly rather than asking other people what he's up to ;) [22:12:31] <Marybelle> Excellent. [22:12:48] <Marybelle> You know all, though. ;-) [22:14:19] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) History links for transcluded templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16132 +comment (10brion) [22:14:46] <Splarka> Dewin: closed projects don't violate GFDL unless you redistribute to people who don't have access to it [22:15:09] <Marybelle> Appending ?redirect=no on the template links would be nice, though. [22:15:27] <Marybelle> 'cause clicking a bunch of template links and ending up at the same place is kinda gross. [22:15:47] <wikibugs> 14(WFM) Banner Ad -- Prohibitively Slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16245 +comment (10brion) [22:18:21] <Platonides> isn't that a feature of a donation banner? ;) [22:20:23] <Dewin> Splarka: I'm currently working on two wikis. One is private developer documentation for a project. Some pages in a category on that wiki will be periodically exported to a separate wiki that is public (read-only) end-user documentation. [22:21:13] <Splarka> ahh, that would violate GFDL then [22:21:32] <Splarka> bummer! write your own templates then [22:21:43] <Splarka> they're just wikicode, css, and tables for the most part [22:22:01] <Dewin> Yeah, I've made some, but they aren't as "pretty" as the wikimedia ones. [22:22:02] <Splarka> bum some styles from mediawiki.org's Help: namespace [22:22:03] <Skizzerz> couldn't you clarify that specific templates, etc. are GFDL while the rest of the site is not? [22:22:03] <Dewin> Hmm [22:22:23] <Splarka> Skizzerz: the private wiki would have edits to the templates that wouldn't have full history available [22:22:31] <Skizzerz> hmm [22:22:38] <Splarka> and those templates would be distributed in the contents of the articles on the public wiki [22:22:45] <Skizzerz> scary transclusion? [22:22:51] <Splarka> same thing [22:23:15] <Dewin> Skizzerz: It's not a matter of where the content is as much as how it is presented. [22:23:28] <Splarka> Dewin doesn't want to expose the closed wiki to scrutiny, so by putting GFDL templates into it, and then exporting them in any way, but not showing the history, is technically bad GFDL [22:23:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Several channels missing from irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13646 (10Platonides) [22:23:53] <Skizzerz> Splarka: I meant have the templates on the public wiki and make edits there, transcluding them to the private wiki [22:24:07] <Splarka> well, that would work yah [22:24:23] <Skizzerz> which would at least preserve the GFDL of the templates to an extent, but then there's still caching issues plus the fact that GFDL content is mixed with non-GFDL content [22:24:30] <Splarka> but then it would have to be a sort of bi-directional privacy thing [22:24:57] <wikibugs> 03(RESOLVED) Banner Ad -- Prohibitively Slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16245 +comment (10angelofvic) [22:25:00] <Splarka> the public wiki Template: namespace would cascade to the private, and the private wiki documentation namespaces would cascade to the Public (or be manually exported), messy! [22:25:10] <Dewin> Splarka: Since anything exported to the public wiki will need to export the templates as well, they'd theoretically still be there. And as far as "read-only" on the public wiki goes -- that's more to prevent vandalism, my boss might be okay if we release our documentation as GFDL as well (just not allow editing of the master copy) [22:25:27] <Splarka> oh, 'read only'? [22:25:34] <Splarka> I thought you meant completely closed [22:25:45] <Splarka> as long as anyone can view article histories on the closed, GFDL isn't violated [22:25:46] <Skizzerz> well, there is always the tried-and-true method of disregarding the license of other stuff and just copy/pasting (ignorance is bliss, or so they say) [22:25:52] <Dewin> Splarka: One closed except to developers [22:26:09] <Dewin> But, say, all pages in [[Category:Public Documentation]] would be exported to the public wiki with full revision history [22:26:18] <Dewin> Including any templates, etc. they pull. [22:26:20] <Splarka> Dewin: well, in theory is all fine, but here is a handy in-practice test [22:26:35] <Splarka> lets say you saw some particular template in a document, as an end user [22:26:51] <Splarka> could you trace that template back, with simple clicking, to the original author on whatever.wikipedia it came from? [22:27:43] <Splarka> click document, click edit, click templates-used, click template history, click earliest, click "Copied from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Foo?oldid=12345", click history, scan history for authors [22:28:08] <Splarka> heh, for fun one day, I decided to track down the author of the monobook user.gif [22:28:15] <Dewin> Well it'd be view-source not edit, but if my boss doesn't mind our documentation being easy to copy (and I can't see why she'd have a problem with it), yes. [22:28:26] <Marybelle> Your idea of fun is a bit off. [22:28:37] <Splarka> http://dev.plone.org/plone/log/CMFPlone/trunk/skins/plone_images/user.gif?rev=2888 [22:29:15] <Dewin> The bigger issue is the images that are used in alot of the base templates, which are harder to get a revision history for. [22:29:18] <Splarka> ^which was not simple [22:29:31] <Splarka> heh [22:29:35] <Dewin> since Special:Export doesn't grab images [22:42:29] <Galaxor> Hi. I'm trying to upgrade from 1.11.0 to 1.14.0. When I try to run update.php, I get an error 'Magic word 'expr' not found [22:42:37] <Galaxor> and a stack trace. [22:43:31] <Galaxor> Is this a known problem? [22:43:34] <Marybelle> Install the ParserFunctions extension? [22:43:37] <Marybelle> Or update it? [22:43:57] <Galaxor> Oh, I didn't realize I had to do that separately. [22:44:28] <Marybelle> update.php updates the database only. [22:47:06] <Galaxor> Okay. I got the latest ParserFunctions and it seems to be going smoothly. Thanks. [22:48:52] <Marybelle> :-) [22:54:47] <wikibugs> 14(INVALID) Upload: add Access-Control-Allow-Origin header to responses. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16270 +comment (10brion) [22:55:20] <werdna> ohai [22:57:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) XML meta dumps do not contain/update restrictions tags anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16360 +comment (10brion) [22:59:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Provide SSL/HTTPS interface to upload.wikimedia.org and use it for SSL-served pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16822 (10brion) [22:59:53] <Splarka> hey brion: when you're bored, try uploading via URL with javascript disabled [23:00:05] <brion> sounds fun. what happens? [23:00:26] <Splarka> the radio button doesn't remove disabled="disabled" [23:00:28] <Splarka> so, nothing happens [23:00:39] <Splarka> javascript only features = bad <3 [23:01:11] <Splarka> shall I open a bugzilla? [23:01:13] <brion> hah [23:01:13] <Skizzerz> have it enabled at the beginning and use javascript to disable it initially? [23:01:14] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Add a link to Domas' Wikistats files from the Download page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13245 +comment (10tfinc) [23:01:14] <brion> sure [23:01:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Logging dump seems to generate really slow, doesn't give status feedback, is lumped with stub dumps confusingly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17262 +comment (10brion) [23:02:24] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Some pages doesn't show it's size in history page and {{PAGESIZE}} in jawp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17421 +comment (10brion) [23:02:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) The revision size is not available for old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 +comment (10brion) [23:03:45] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Update commons image count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17802 (10brion) [23:03:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [23:04:26] *tomaszf watches brion have way too much fun assigning bugzilla bugs [23:04:31] <brion> \o/ [23:04:48] <atglenn> don't speak up, if he notices you you might get some (more) [23:04:53] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Cannot use "upload by URL" feature with javascript disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18264 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (herd) [23:06:50] <Splarka> that is something one has to admire about MediaWiki (vanilla, and Wikimedia's specific setup), there is almost nothing that depends on javascript, other than a few things that are only useful with javascript (such as category tree views, or allmessages filtering) [23:06:59] <Splarka> too many sites are just totally broken with it disabled [23:07:55] <Splarka> if(bad_analogy == true) if a website is a meal, javascript is the dessert... sure, it can be fun, but don't force the diabetics to eat it [23:10:01] <OverlordQ> what does that make flash? The crazy uncle who nobody wants around? [23:10:17] <Splarka> the vomitorium [23:10:46] <Splarka> you: "wow, I'm so stuffed on this website I couldn't digest another bit" flash: "go barf up for a while and come back for seconds!" [23:12:18] <Splarka> and of course it is patent-entangled and proprietary [23:13:48] <CIA-78> 03aaron * r49049 10/trunk/phase3/includes/QueryPage.php: Fixed fatal from r49045 [23:15:52] <Splarka> By regurgitating in our vomitorium you grant the unqualified, unrestricted, unconditional, unlimited, worldwide, irrevocable, perpetual and royalty free right, license, authorization and permission, in any form or format, on or through any media or medium and with any technology or devices now known or hereafter developed or discovered, in whole or in part, to host, cache, store, maintain, use, reproduce, distribute, display, exhibit, perform, and other [23:16:26] <CIA-78> 03aaron * r49050 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Interwiki.php: Tweak brackets from r49012 [23:16:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Timezone needs update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17797 +upstream; +comment (10brion) [23:16:49] <Splarka> > otherwise exploit all or any portion of your puke. [23:17:00] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Database table "blobs" is full - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17891 (10brion) [23:17:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) logo update at german wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17861 (10brion) [23:19:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Search suggest broken for an exist article on de.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17909 -shell (10brion) [23:19:42] <Dewin> hmm... wikipedia is having issues. [23:19:50] <Splarka> it has a whole subscription [23:20:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Install standard anti-abuse extensions on usabilitywiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18139 +comment (10brion) [23:20:37] <Dewin> (Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.0.235)) [23:21:00] <Dewin> I guess I'll have to wait awhile to see how they do something ;) [23:21:42] <Splarka> brion, stop skuttling bugs, fix wp ^_^ [23:23:21] <werdna> that's not a MediaWiki issue [23:23:24] <werdna> we're dealing with it [23:28:38] <[]-> Q: how to make table with background color equal to that of wiki page ? [23:29:16] <Simetrical> {| style="background: transparent" [23:29:38] *Splarka again wonders why monobook has to spread its white stuff all over the table [23:30:33] <Simetrical> Splarka, so that borders from headings don't run into tables. [23:30:51] <Simetrical> Float a table right and have some headers with the underlines that go past it. [23:31:01] <Splarka> right, but that's just bad wikicode to allow that [23:31:02] <Simetrical> Or more to the point, an image, etc. [23:31:15] <[]-> Splarka, thank you for help [23:31:20] <Simetrical> You need padding (or border) that's opaque and matches the background to hide that. [23:31:27] <Splarka> Simetrical helped you [23:31:33] <Splarka> I just made an innuendoish comment [23:31:39] <Danny_B> is there scap planned before berlin meeting? [23:31:39] *Danny_B would like to know how much time he has for his planned commit [23:31:42] <Simetrical> Oh, no, I remember. [23:31:44] <Simetrical> It's even worse. [23:31:50] <CIA-78> 03aaron * r49051 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php: (bug 18263) Escape single-quotes for wpDestForm [23:31:53] <Splarka> IE7 still does that sometimes, IIRC [23:31:55] <Simetrical> If you set the background transparent, the lines run *under* the table content. [23:32:00] <Simetrical> Looks horrible. [23:32:11] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Single quote in file name confuses reupload form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18263 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [23:32:13] <Simetrical> Splarka, what, make innuendoish comments? [23:32:24] <Splarka> "spread its white stuff all over the table" [23:32:34] <Splarka> if I did that I'd be registered as a sex offender [23:33:07] <Splarka> but no, I mean, there are some situations where IE7 will have a line through an image, IIRC [23:33:28] <Splarka> a contrived set of position, float, scroll, and overflow [23:33:43] <Splarka> ^or [23:47:43] <[]-> Simetrical, ups, thank you for help too [23:49:30] <Splarka> Simetrical: so, what would happen if they used inherit instead of white? would they inherit undeclared (or transparency) from #bodyContent or the white from #content ? [23:49:47] <Simetrical> Splarka, inherit doesn't work in IE < 8. [23:49:55] <Splarka> IEfixes exist for a reason [23:50:05] <Simetrical> Anyway, it would inherit from the parent. [23:50:06] <Splarka> mostly to piss off anyone who has to deal with them, but they also exist to fix IE [23:50:12] <Simetrical> The parent most likely has a transparent background. [23:50:22] <Simetrical> Since the property isn't normally inherited. [23:50:29] <Splarka> bodyContent has nothing declared, yah [23:53:06] <Simetrical> Who says it would be a child of bodyContent? Could be some random div. [23:54:09] <Splarka> #bodyContent, #bodyContent * {background-color:inherit} [23:54:11] *Splarka hides [23:55:38] <Simetrical> Or you could just customize table backgrounds in the same rules you use to set body backgrounds?

[00:10:12] 04(REOPENED) $wgExportAllowListContributors and related code unused and should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18169 +comment (10jidanni) [00:14:04] he swears you are making a big mistake :| [00:15:14] ohai aude-wiki [00:15:46] hey [00:17:48] 04(REOPENED) $wgExportAllowListContributors and related code unused and should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18169 +comment (10p858snake) [00:24:46] 03(mod) $wgExportAllowListContributors and related code unused and should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18169 (10Keisial) [00:26:57] 04(REOPENED) $wgExportAllowListContributors and related unused code should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18169 summary; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [00:32:54] Mike_lifeguard: how do you know that code is unused though? As per comment 10, it could be a hidden option that you'd have to manually place into the URL [00:33:20] I don't know anything except a) he's annoying b) his summary was not easily parsed [00:33:27] so I changed it [00:38:03] well, the variable does have a purpose [00:38:48] I've checked through the export code, and apparantly this will return a list of all authors to the page if listauthors=1 is present in the GET request and only the current revision is being fetched (aka not the entire history) [00:38:59] 03(mod) $wgExportAllowListContributors and related unused code should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18169 (10jidanni) [00:42:19] 04(REOPENED) $wgExportAllowListContributors and related unused code should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18169 +comment (10skizzerz) [00:42:37] also, why does wikibugs always say REOPENED? [00:42:51] it's been reopened for quite a while [00:43:30] Blame werdna. [00:43:39] heh [00:43:59] there should be a way to "lock" the status of a bug to keep people from reopening them [00:46:24] *werdna hides. [00:46:30] I'll fix it some day [00:47:37] 03(mod) mention one can export via the API too (much more flexible) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17871 (10jidanni) [00:49:46] hi [00:49:51] 03(mod) Hiding categories via CSS violates accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15637 +accessibility (10jidanni) [00:50:21] 04(REOPENED) Half-stylesheet solution botches 'Other special pages' at the bottom of Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17974 +accessibility (10jidanni) [00:53:26] it takes SO much effort to keep me from flaming that jidanni person >_> [00:53:46] ##alfresco [00:53:46] he posts alot to the mailing list [00:53:48] oops [00:53:51] *lists [00:54:00] 03(mod) TOC/section edit display preferences should be marked as requiring CSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10212 +accessibility; +comment (10jidanni) [00:54:53] for example: "> the API isn't designed for users (linebreak) Perhaps add warnings to that effect on api.php" ... the definition of API is "Application programming interface" or something to that extent... which does NOT imply by any stretch of the imagination "for end users" [00:54:56] Skizzerz: me too -- and I'm only being annoyed by proxy :D [00:57:32] 03(RESOLVED) Don't use tables to arrange category page content in columns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8234 +comment (10jidanni) [00:57:34] 03(mod) Don't use for page layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17595 (10jidanni) [00:58:49] 03(WONTFIX) mention one can export via the API too (much more flexible) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17871 +comment (10mikelifeguard) [01:00:07] 04(REOPENED) Half-stylesheet solution botches 'Other special pages' at the bottom of Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17974 +comment (10skizzerz) [01:10:26] 03(mod) $wgExportAllowListContributors and related unused code should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18169 (10jidanni) [01:18:58] 03(mod) Half-stylesheet solution botches 'Other special pages' at the bottom of Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17974 (10jidanni) [01:26:10] 03(mod) Half-stylesheet solution botches 'Other special pages' at the bottom of Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17974 (10jidanni) [01:30:23] 03(mod) Half-stylesheet solution botches 'Other special pages' at the bottom of Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17974 (10jidanni) [01:33:04] <^demon|away> $wgDontLetThemKnowAboutWhichPagesAreRestricted isn't a real global. [01:56:22] 03demon * r49025 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (bug 17947) On Special:SpecialPages, restricted special pages are now marked with tags, helps with text-based browsers [01:56:29] 03(FIXED) Half-stylesheet solution botches 'Other special pages' at the bottom of Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17974 +comment (10innocentkiller) [02:00:57] Hi - is it possible, either with or without an extension, to set up MediaWiki so that talk pages are automatically created when their main page is created? [02:19:31] Any comments on this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/48187#code-comments [02:21:18] 03(NEW) Expiry time option, on filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18246 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (FT2.wiki) [02:31:56] 03demon * r49026 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Fix minor dyslexia in last commit. [02:53:16] 03(NEW) Allowing "per page" filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18247 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (FT2.wiki) [02:53:32] 03(mod) Expiry time option, on filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18246 (10FT2.wiki) [02:56:05] 03(mod) set $wgMaxRedirects = 2 on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17888 (10ipatrol6010) [03:04:45] *Mike_lifeguard weeps to see ipatrol expanding his horizons [04:11:47] how does one remove a user from a wiki? [04:12:19] normally you don't [04:12:41] heh [04:13:23] !deleteuser | mariano|syzygy [04:13:23] --mwbot-- mariano|syzygy: Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with . You can also try [04:13:44] *Mike_lifeguard was searching for the keyword :) [04:13:56] /topic [04:13:58] "No mwbot? cheatsheet -> http://is.gd/hMRz" [04:17:56] !blame [04:17:56] --mwbot-- Whatever happened, it's Domas' fault. [04:19:37] :) [04:21:37] 03(NEW) Redirects to Images on Shared Repos do not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18248 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: File/Repo; (overlordq) [05:33:49] interwiki user right changes are not working anymore in my mediawiki install [05:34:24] anyone else get this? [05:34:25] Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to UserrightsPage::doSaveUserGroups() must be an instance of User, instance of UserRightsProxy given, called in /home/yourwiki/htdocs/html/w/includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php on line 152 and defined in /home/yourwiki/htdocs/html/w/includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php on line 164 [05:41:01] worksforme on r49026 [05:48:41] chuck: are you at SVN HEAD? I know that issue was reported [05:48:56] I'm at wikipedia's version, I'll just update to head [05:50:06] we're not having issues with interwiki userrights [05:50:11] I just used it [05:50:22] fixed [05:50:26] Mike_lifeguard: O_o [05:50:28] how strange [05:50:37] but IIRC /global/ group membership was broken for a while [05:50:41] well, it's fixed now [05:50:53] nah, that's part of CentralAuth, wouldn't be affecting this [05:51:21] The global user Mike.lifeguard is not active on the wiki you specified ( ). You may be attempting to assign rights to the wrong user! [05:51:25] still broken :(( [05:51:37] there's a fix [05:51:43] it's not broken per-se [05:51:46] yeah, I guess it's not live [05:51:50] it's just that it displays an annoying message. [05:51:53] I can put the fix live. [05:52:02] # 05:51, 30 March 2009 Mike.lifeguard (Talk | contribs | block) changed global group membership for User:Mike.lifeguard from steward to steward, Global_rollback ‎ (let's have both) [05:52:08] oh, it apparently worked [05:52:14] *Mike_lifeguard O___o [05:52:17] right. [05:52:24] it's the post-save redirect that's broken. [05:52:33] anyone know of an easy way to import templates from wikipedia to my wiki (other than copy/paste) [05:52:36] hm, k [05:52:57] well, it'd be nice if that could go live (not that we do lots of global group manipulation, but still) [05:53:08] live-merging it [05:53:20] thanks :) [05:54:01] CorpX: Special:Import and Special:Export [05:55:39] Mike_lifeguard: please try now [05:56:27] yep, good to go [06:00:34] chuck: doesnt quite work [06:00:36] http://www.wiki.utexasclan.com/index.php?title=Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi [06:12:26] 03werdna * r49027 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Implementation of global filters, including a major i18n change for abusefilter-log-detailedentry message (rename and split). Needs further testing before deployment [06:12:46] Mike_lifeguard: plz to worship [06:12:47] argh the css [06:13:00] *Mike_lifeguard dutifully worships [06:14:31] werdna: Any idea if it's better to have one massive filter or many small ones? [06:16:02] not that much difference, except that if they all depend on one 'gateway' condition it's easier to evaluate that just once. [06:18:02] hm, true [06:35:59] 03(NEW) Changes to DSN for more width and finer css/js control - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18249 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: DismissableSiteNotice; (c.stafford) [07:18:50] 03(NEW) Centralnotice.js causes (non-fatal) error in Safari 3.2.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18250 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (lupo.bugzilla) [07:22:51] anyone here? [07:23:41] hi there, is there any way to create selfdefined groups without working in the db? [07:26:14] belZe: user rights groups? [07:27:15] hi, Splarka, i can't upload my file,how to fix this? [07:28:44] !upload | Aleenf1 [07:28:44] --mwbot-- Aleenf1: File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [07:28:55] @Splarka: yeah like "Friends" where i can add rights afterwards or grant access to locked sites etc. [07:29:51] but i have this kind of problem: The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver, even i set to 755 [07:30:27] belZe: edit LocalSettings.php, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [07:30:39] Aleenf1: no idea on permissions, sorry [07:31:02] ok [07:31:19] @Splarka: so im creating a group by giving permission to a (yet) not existing group? [07:32:20] e.g.: $wgGroupPermissions['friends']['edit'] = true; would be enough to create the group friends? [07:32:25] yep [07:32:44] ah ok. thanks. [07:32:52] though you then have to give access to adding/removing that group to another group [07:33:08] (unless you leave bureaucrats with free access to userrights) [07:34:03] gonna check the docu for that. i was just hanging on initializing the group :) thanks for the hint [08:07:42] anyone able to help me figure out why I can't install MediaWiki 1.14.0 [08:08:40] someone might be able to help you if you describe your problem, so that they know if they have any idea on how you can fix it [08:08:51] http://swgenesis.co.uk/wiki/config/index.php [08:08:57] That is my problem =/ [08:09:50] exec() has been disabled by your hosting-provider [08:10:15] Okay, is there anything I can do about that? [08:11:15] ask your hosting-provider [08:11:48] Thanks for your help Laaknor =) [08:12:32] exec isn't really required, is it? [08:12:50] well, it is for a lot of nice things, but... shouldn't it be poossible to install without? [08:14:35] It is possible, yes. [08:14:42] I thought it was just a warning. [08:16:07] it gives some errors later that isn't good [08:26:59] how do I link to an image that is hosted on another wiki? [08:28:57] link to, or enbed? [08:29:05] ^embed [08:29:08] hmm [08:29:17] I want the image displayed on this wiki [08:29:25] so, embed? [08:29:42] $wgAllowExternalImages [08:29:57] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImages [08:30:01] oh [08:30:18] The wiki is hosted by my lecturer [08:30:19] moin [08:30:30] 03(NEW) "Changes related" Not rollback link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18251 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (shizhao) [08:34:33] 03(NEW) AbuseFilter string manipulation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18252 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (MacGyverMagic) [08:39:05] hmm [08:39:38] when I try to upload the image to the wiki I get: The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again. [08:39:41] Retrieved from "http://draco.cs.waikato.ac.nz/mediawiki/index.php/Special:Upload" [08:39:45] ah fuck [08:39:52] I get The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again. [08:39:56] Retrieved from "http://draco.cs.waikato.ac.nz/mediawiki/index.php/Special:Upload" [08:39:59] ah [08:40:04] well I have to type it out [08:40:42] The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again [08:40:51] it has a .png extension [08:47:53] b0nn: this indicates that the system detects it as something else. [08:48:09] b0nn: have you tried more png files? does it always happen? [08:49:05] b0nn: have a look here for some options: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MIME [08:49:20] one thing you can try is setting $wgMimeDetectorCommand = "file -bi"; [09:25:37] 03(mod) Hiding categories via CSS violates accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15637 (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:47:36] 03nikerabbit * r49028 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Fix regression from r48990 [09:48:29] 03(FIXED) Large problem with vandalism patrolling because restriction Special:Recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18241 +comment (10lolsimon) [10:52:33] 03(NEW) Edit summary with multiple sections renders incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18253 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (rupert) [10:52:59] 03nad * r49029 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/ (RecordAdmin.php RecordAdmin_body.php): use $wgParser not a new parser instance for rendering rows so that parser functions are present [10:54:19] 03nad * r49030 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: same for template rows and table rows [10:56:59] 03nad * r49031 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: use new parser but $wgParser's options [10:58:27] 14(DUP) Edit summary with multiple sections renders incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18253 +comment (10paul.copperman) [10:58:30] 03(mod) Edit summaries containing multiple autocomments are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16530 +comment (10paul.copperman) [10:59:54] 14(DUP) Make Resize Galleries default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18213 +comment (10paul.copperman) [10:59:57] 03(mod) Give image s fluid width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3276 +comment (10paul.copperman) [11:02:18] 03nad * r49032 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: back to $wgParser but don't reset [11:07:19] 03(mod) Install the StringFunctions extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455 (10rohde) [11:17:26] Wanted: Someone good with php to look at a simple SQL Result issue [11:50:05] Gr��e, hoffe ihr k�nnte mir helfen [11:50:10] Prom3th3an: Sure, specify your problem [11:50:24] thefeldman: Möglich, aber es gibt hier nicht viel Deutscher (bin selbst Holländer) [11:50:38] Alright, I'll try it in english [11:51:45] I downloaded MediaWiki and it works fine on my localhost. Now I want to take it online to my domain. How do I do that? [11:52:07] You upload the entire wiki directory to your web server [11:52:19] just like that? [11:52:22] Yes [11:52:35] well, Ill try it [11:52:37] But that won't preserve the pages and users you created, do you want that too? [11:52:56] yeah [11:53:20] Then you need to export and import your database using phpMyAdmin [11:53:49] thing is I dont really know how to do that. [11:53:56] Also note that $wgArticlePath, $wgScriptPath and friends in LocalSettings.php (basically anything referring to http://localhost/ ) needs to be changed [11:53:59] Do you have phpMyAdmin? [11:54:20] i downloaded xampp and it came with it [11:54:38] Good, so you have PMA locally. Do you have it on the web server as well? [11:54:51] not yet ;-) [11:55:11] shall upload the whole xampp directory? [11:55:16] OK, well we'll get to that later [11:55:26] First, you need to export your database from localhost [11:55:39] To do that, go to phpMyAdmin on localhost (probably something like http://localhost/phpMyAdmin ) [11:55:47] got it [11:57:01] myphp created something like a textfile [11:57:46] Does it have words like CREATE TABLE in it? [11:58:12] CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `archive` ( [11:58:18] Yup, that's good [11:58:22] great [11:58:42] OK, so now you need to upload and install PMA on the web server [11:59:00] the directory from xampp? [11:59:13] Yes, unless your web host has installed PMA already, which would be nice [11:59:55] how do I check that (I am a noob as you can see ;-) ) [12:00:17] Try to go to www.mydomain.com/phpMyAdmin [12:00:45] Or, if your web hosting is some kind of hosting company, look through their FAQs for stuff about PMA or MySQL [12:00:47] I am getting this error: Error Creating Thumbnail: /home/noolaham/public_html/wiki/bin/ulimit4.sh: line 4: /usr/bin/convert: No such file or directory [12:00:58] !imagemagick | Vinodh-AwayNOw [12:00:58] --mwbot-- Vinodh-AwayNOw: ImageMagick is a software which can be used with MediaWiki Image Administration. You can read more about it on . ImageMagick is available from . [12:01:09] It is missing ? [12:01:13] Vinodh-AwayNOw: You need to install ImageMagick for thumbnails ---^ [12:01:22] It was working a few days ago !! [12:01:23] alright ill have a look at the faq [12:02:14] Vinodh-AwayNOw: Thumbnailing, really? Did you have largeish (larger than 200px) images at that time? [12:02:14] They is done server upgrades and I cannot use any images. Should I install that Imagemagick again ? [12:02:19] Yes [12:02:29] Or GD, but you don't seem to have that either [12:02:37] Yeah. @ Roan [12:03:08] mom [12:04:23] http://noolaham.net/wiki/index.php/%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D:No_cover.png - Working [12:04:37] http://noolaham.net/wiki/index.php/%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AE%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D:2888.jpg - Not Working [12:06:07] my phpmyadmin folder is gone... [12:06:39] Vinodh: Yeah, then you probably have to (re)install IM [12:06:46] ah got it [12:07:00] Hmm.. Okie.. [12:07:05] its uploading [12:09:03] Roan, can you provide some links how to install Imagamagick for Mediawiki ? [12:09:18] !imagemagick | Vinodh [12:09:18] --mwbot-- Vinodh: ImageMagick is a software which can be used with MediaWiki Image Administration. You can read more about it on . ImageMagick is available from . [12:09:26] First link [12:11:32] Thank You !!! [12:14:29] OK myphpadmin is online [12:16:00] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /homepages/15/d85958644/htdocs/phpmyadmin/libraries/Error_Handler.class.php on line 25 [12:16:12] what? [12:16:30] Which PHP version does your server have? [12:17:21] You'll need PHP 5 to run MediaWiki properly, and I bet PMA also needs PHP 5 [12:18:00] ill have a look [12:18:37] Also, if that's not the problem, try to re-upload the file it mentions [12:18:55] 14(INVALID) Special:Export ignores parameters limit, dir and offset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18180 +comment (10tani.kaoru) [12:19:43] mom phone [12:19:55] 03catrope * r49033 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (ApiQueryAbuseFilters.php ApiQueryAbuseLog.php): [12:19:55] AbuseFilter API modules: [12:19:55] * Use the 'new' way of adding results (adding them one at a time and stopping when addValue() returns false) [12:19:55] * Use intval() on results that are really integers [12:19:56] * Use an implicit join in ApiAbuseLog [12:19:58] * Use dieUsageMsg() for an invalid title [12:20:02] * Move some things up and down in ApiAbuseLog so related things are grouped together [12:21:55] hmmm my einsundeins shows me, that mysql is there.... couldn find soething about php yet [12:23:05] thefeldman: Create a phpinfo file, do you know how to do that? [12:23:29] Create a file called "phpinfo.php" , and put the text "" in it, then upload and view that file [12:23:38] thx [12:25:28] its 4.4.9 [12:25:52] Ouch [12:26:05] What happens if you rename the file to phpinfo.php5 ? [12:26:32] wow now its 5.2.8 [12:27:01] Good [12:27:20] That means at least MediaWiki will run [12:27:32] good to hear *gg [12:28:12] Hmm, PMA says it should work in PHP 4, try re-uploading the file that gave the error [12:28:19] ok [12:30:30] still doesnt work [12:32:21] 03(mod) Enable e-mail notification for watchlist and minor edits on portuguese Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16410 summary (10heldergeovane) [12:33:54] Same error? [12:34:01] yes [12:34:57] Oh wait, PMA isn't PHP4-compatible any more, that was old news [12:35:34] Ok what can I do? [12:37:17] Download, upload and install PMA 2.11.9.5 [12:37:30] ok mom [12:37:31] http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/downloads.php [12:40:39] 03(NEW) Backup systems (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18255 major; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (elubarsky) [12:40:53] upload in progress [12:41:59] btw thanks so much for the support and your patience [12:42:59] No problem [12:44:40] done and working.. apart from this acces denied thingy... [12:44:46] What? [12:45:04] yeah it says Probably reason of this is that you did not create configuration file. [12:45:12] Ah [12:45:31] shall I use the setup script? [12:46:27] Yes, you should [12:46:31] Probably easiest [12:46:51] OK, i will add a server... [12:47:42] which server hostname shall I use? it say localhost [12:47:48] localhost is probably fine [12:48:17] cool now, which parts of the script I have to fill in? [12:49:43] I don't know which parts there are exactly, but just specifying a host should be enough [12:49:50] You can log in with your username and password later [12:50:12] there is something about a control user. shall i leave it blank? [12:50:15] Yes [12:50:19] ok [12:50:39] You didn't set phpMyAdmin database, so you can not use all phpMyAdmin features. [12:50:44] And set authentication type (auth_type) to cookie [12:50:45] OK [12:50:50] That's no problem [12:50:54] ok [12:51:57] hi RoanKattouw, anything new? [12:52:23] whats the next step? [12:52:30] Nikerabbit: Not that I know of, lemme check [12:52:41] thefeldman: Log into PMA at the server [12:53:35] Please create web server writable folder config in phpMyAdmin toplevel directory as described in documentation. Otherwise you will be only able to download or display it. [12:53:50] Do so [12:53:57] how? [12:53:58] hi [12:54:03] RoanKattouw: where are you, by the way [12:54:11] werdna: Netherlands [12:54:23] thefeldman: Create a new folder with FTP, and set its permissions to 777 [12:55:11] werdna: I followed your suggestion with the userrights thing, the API now just creates a UserrightsForm instance, and everything else is now back to normal [12:55:43] does the folder have to have a special name? [12:55:51] config [12:56:04] ...that should already exist... [12:56:39] Duesentrieb: No, the PMA docs say you have to create it [12:57:08] huh? o...k... [12:57:09] RoanKattouw: yay [12:57:37] RoanKattouw: I might drop in to say hi this year :) [12:57:46] OK, i created the config folder in the pma directory [12:57:55] In NL? Read something about you going to Europe earlier [12:59:38] I'm gonna be all over the shop [13:00:07] werdna: keep your dopplr updated :) [13:00:23] I shall :) [13:02:16] still wont work [13:04:40] pma will add the server, but as soon as I want to go to pam it delets it [13:05:26] pam? [13:05:50] pma lol [13:08:54] Ah [13:09:22] doh! I have to leave. WOrk calls... will you be in later today? [13:09:39] Probably [13:09:54] that would be great. thanks so far [13:12:53] werdna: Didn't know about Dopplr, so I thought I'd register there as well :P would be nice if you shared your travels with me there [13:13:52] 03(ASSIGNED) Global filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17811 +shell; +comment (10Andrew) [13:14:14] RoanKattouw: done :)) [13:17:56] Ah, great [13:21:30] 03(NEW) Is this a missing function? array_diff_keys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18256 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: File/Repo; (slattery) [13:22:59] 03(mod) Install the StringFunctions extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [13:28:16] 03catrope * r49034 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/FileCache.php: (bug 18256) Fix typo: array_diff_key, not keyS [13:40:08] 03(mod) API thows internal error: Empty $wgTitle in OutputPage::parse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17852 (10roan.kattouw) [13:40:08] 03(NEW) wfMsgExt() with 'parse' or 'parseinline' crashes when $wgTitle == null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18257 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (roan.kattouw) [13:40:18] 03(FIXED) Is this a missing function? array_diff_keys - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18256 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:57:45] 03(mod) wfMsgExt() with 'parse' or 'parseinline' crashes when $wgTitle == null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18257 (10paul.copperman) [14:01:44] 03(NEW) inherent article classification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18254 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (michaelj.walsh) [14:20:35] !move [14:20:35] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki [14:37:26] hey .. i maintain wikidoc.org. am having a strange (very strange) css display after edit. logo, title bar & sidebar are all smooshed into the main page area. anyone ever seen this before? [15:01:33] <^demon> Simetrical: In re: to 49025/6...That's what I get for trying to fix things when I'm tired. [15:12:14] Simetrical: Adding functions to ParserFunctions could (will) cause conflicts if StringFunctions is also installed... [15:16:34] 03(mod) Redirects to Images on Shared Repos do not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18248 +comment (10innocentkiller) [15:16:56] 03(ASSIGNED) Redirects to Images on Shared Repos do not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18248 (10innocentkiller) [15:17:10] <^demon> I hate that you can't change who its assigne to and assign it (from NEW) in 1 step. [15:18:43] hi there anyone to answer a silly question? [15:18:50] !ask [15:18:50] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [15:19:21] <^demon> (We probably should reword !ask, I wonder how many people waste time going to read that guide before asking) [15:19:22] Ok, I downloaded mediawiki 1.14 but no skins apart from the standard are showing [15:19:40] Try bypassing your local cache? [15:19:47] heh already done [15:19:50] :P [15:19:55] Marybelle, so uninstall StringFunctions before upgrading. [15:20:06] We can put it in the release notes for ParserFunctions, if we had any. [15:20:13] We don't. [15:20:18] And nobody reads those. [15:20:25] <^demon> Their fault. [15:20:53] Is there a section for "This is actually important and not a Hebrew localization update"? [15:21:07] When I said showing, they appear on the skin list but don't apply correctly (just plain text in wiki)= [15:21:11] 'cause the release notes are long and full of shit nobody cares about. [15:21:13] <^demon> It doesn't even have a readme. [15:21:35] cyberfin: Try appending ?useskin=modern or something to the URL. Any change? [15:22:28] yep that one shows, but I've downloaded a few other skins (gumax, monocms) and they're not working. [15:22:57] mind you none of the (new) ones I put in seem to work [15:24:42] I've googled this to the end of the internet but can't seem to get a hold of an explanation (however followed religiously the install howto and config). [15:26:03] can anyone point me in a direction to shoot? [15:26:12] !skin [15:26:12] --mwbot-- Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: [15:26:32] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration [15:26:53] Those may help (probably not). [15:27:37] yep, visited all those (I mean all) and still no explanation. Now, (and I might be shooting myself in the foot here) but it should be as simple as pasting the skin folder in /skins, right [15:29:04] Well, you need to activate it. [15:29:18] Sitewide, you set $wgDefaultSkin in LocalSettings.php. [15:29:31] And for user preferences, you have to do some database work. [15:29:44] (To change the default for users that already exist.) [15:30:09] eh, yes, but if I append ?useskin=modern to the addresbar I should be able to preview it no? And anyway when I have applied skins and clearing cache, still no joy [15:30:25] Does it show up in Special:Preferences --> Skins? [15:30:44] yep all of them (3 or 4 extra ones I put in) [15:31:02] 03(mod) wfMsgExt() with 'parse' or 'parseinline' crashes when $wgTitle == null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18257 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:31:10] before you ask: yes, untarred, unzipped [15:31:17] So when you try to preview with one of them, nothing happens? [15:31:36] wiki page with plain wiki content, text [15:31:51] 03(mod) inherent article classification - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18254 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [15:31:53] Erm... permissions maybe? [15:32:01] The file permissions are set correctly for the new skins? [15:32:27] you mean read+write? [15:32:37] Well, preferably read, yeah. [15:32:44] lol, yep [15:33:01] cyberfin: Do you have a link to that wiki? Maybe LiveHTTPHeaders will turn something up [15:33:02] I came close to 777 it but I kept my cool [15:33:15] im copying an existing installation to a new location, but want to use a new database, and remove the images from the images folder, can i just delete the subfolders from the images folder? [15:33:22] one sec just let me change the skin to a different one... [15:33:48] narfi: You'll probably need to run a maintenance script to clean up afterward. Though with a new database, you should be fine? [15:34:28] 89.7.19.58/wiki [15:34:29] ok thanks [15:34:38] set to monocms [15:35:09] Monobook works. [15:35:13] will i need to hit a specific page to run the setup for the new database? or will it know i need to like the first time i installed? [15:35:22] GET /wiki/skins/monocms/main.css?195 HTTP/1.1 [15:35:27] HTTP/1.x 403 Forbidden [15:35:33] Seems to be a permissions problem [15:35:41] narfi: If there's no LocalSettings.php, it'll direct you to config/index.php [15:36:00] ok cool, thanks [15:36:01] 03(mod) wfMsgExt() with 'parse' or 'parseinline' crashes when $wgTitle == null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18257 (10innocentkiller) [15:36:09] <^demon> RoanKattouw: In re ^^^, I say go for it. [15:36:25] 89.7.19.58/wiki/skins/monocms/main.css?195 <-- Forbidden. [15:36:41] I just started looking around [15:36:46] 1 sec [15:36:49] ^demon: Not even my idea. There is actually some black magic in Parser.php that seems to set $wgTitle to "Msg" when it's null [15:37:11] Black magic in Parser.php? Shocking. :O [15:37:16] hehe [15:37:37] owner should be admin, right? [15:38:21] *Marybelle shrugs. Check the monobook permissions and emulate? :-) [15:38:53] yer, I think I just found my mistake... [15:39:02] Woo. [15:39:45] 03demon * r49035 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/README: Basic README. If compat with StringFunctions were to become an issue, you could put a note about that here ;-) [15:40:02] <^demon> RoanKattouw: If the parser did that, why do we still fail with $wgTitle = null? [15:40:34] wfMsgExt() fails with $wgTitle == null, but the parser seems to catch some of that somewhere in an obscure place [15:41:03] So basically the parser does if(is_null($wgTitle)) { $wgTitle = Title::newFromText("Msg"); } wfMsg(...); [15:41:16] But of course that's scattered all over the place [15:41:49] So that code isn't actually present like that anywhere, but some voodoo that does the same thing is going on [15:42:42] <^demon> :( [15:43:01] <^demon> The parser shouldn't rely on $wgTitle ever :-\ [15:43:27] RoanKattouw: hmm [15:43:38] RoanKattouw: doesn't messagecache have it's own parser somewhere? [15:43:42] ^demon: Truer words were never spoken [15:43:52] Nikerabbit: No, that's wfMsgExt(), it uses Parser methods [15:43:55] I think [15:44:03] See GlobalFunctions.php and look at the wfMsg*() family [15:44:26] hmm [15:44:27] oh [15:44:32] it uses $wgOut->pser [15:44:34] parse* [15:44:38] ^demon: Not only because it can be null, but also because it can happen that $parser->mTitle != $wgTitle in general, even if neither is null [15:44:54] message cache should probably provide that function? [15:44:56] Yeah, $wgOut->parse() [15:45:14] Nikerabbit: No, the message cache shouldn't be responsible for parsing, Parser should be [15:45:39] RoanKattouw: but it could hold one instance of it used for message parsing? [15:45:46] Yes, that'd be cool [15:45:57] Right now it calls $wgOut->parse() which in turn uses $wgTitle [15:46:24] All based on the assumption that whatever goes through wfMsg() is eventually gonna end up being output through $wgOut, which isn't necessarily true [15:47:05] Nikerabbit: For the record, any ideas about this kind of stuff should of course be run by Tim first, he's the guy that actually understands all of this black magic stuff [15:49:04] I've had plenty of pain with MessageCache too [15:49:09] yeeeee Thanks Marybelle! I shall slap myself in the face for my stupidity and in your honor! Have a good one! [15:49:33] <^demon> What if we constructed the dummy title in MessageCache::transform(), when it calls Parser::transformMsg()? Rather than at wfMsg*()... [15:49:55] Sounds viable, but I suggest you talk to Tim about it before committing stuff [15:53:07] <^demon> Even cooler might be handling it at setTitle() like we do with FakeTitle objects. [15:53:48] <^demon> Although, it should be doing this :) [15:55:51] <^demon> RoanKattouw: In theory, $wgParser->preprocess( $text, $title = null , $options, $revid ); should work. [16:04:43] 03(mod) wfMsgExt() with 'parse' or 'parseinline' crashes when $wgTitle == null - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18257 (10paul.copperman) [16:18:20] domas: nice reply :) [16:18:32] which one? [16:18:55] you should know ;) [16:19:09] =) [16:21:49] :p [16:22:33] <^demon> Nikerabbit: I get frustrated with said person sometimes. :-\ [16:32:15] quit [16:35:03] 04(REOPENED) Install the StringFunctions extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455 +comment (10ted_kandell) [16:39:22] 03(NEW) Add functionality to watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18258 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken) [16:41:40] hi again [16:44:22] RoanKattouw still there? [16:45:30] 03(FIXED) Exhibit: Linking is not correct - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17144 (10fh) [16:46:22] 03(NEW) Replace message "log" with "sp-contributions-logs" in [[Special:DeletedContributions]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18259 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (wiki.pierroman) [16:46:31] 03(ASSIGNED) Exhibit: Wrong HTML redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17446 (10fh) [16:54:47] 03ialex * r49036 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): * (bug 18259) Special:DeletedContributions now also uses MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-logs for the link to Special:Log [16:55:13] 03(FIXED) Replace message "log" with "sp-contributions-logs" in [[Special:DeletedContributions]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18259 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:55:49] could someone hepl me pls? I try to upload a wiki using media wiki but it wont work [16:56:51] !upload [16:56:51] --mwbot-- File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [16:57:30] Is it possible to remove the "autoblock dissabled" message when blocking an IP? It makes no sense [16:57:55] CSS can probably hide it. [16:58:10] local css? [16:58:12] Or did you mean in the software? [16:58:16] yes [16:58:48] It doesn't appear for me in MW 1.15 [16:58:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Block/127.0.0.1 [16:59:07] 19:54, 28 March 2009 Dferg (Talk | contribs | block) blocked 86.30.6.215 (Talk) with an expiry time of 1 day (anonymous users only, account creation disabled, autoblock disabled) ‎ (Inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages) (unblock | change block) [16:59:22] in the log, I mean [17:01:24] Ah. [17:01:42] File a bug? Perhaps ^demon can poke at it. [17:02:26] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17498 [17:03:50] hmm [17:05:48] 04(REOPENED) Install the StringFunctions extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455 +comment (10rohde) [17:06:03] That bug in wikibugs is quite annoying. [17:06:11] thefeldman: I'll be with you in a few mins [17:07:43] great... [17:16:44] thefeldman: Back [17:17:03] *gg* one moment pls my girl just called [17:17:51] 14(DUP) Simple way of retrieving different language-version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2463 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [17:17:52] 03(mod) Cross-wiki API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14024 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [17:21:08] 03(NEW) Streamline move process for talk pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18260 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (benjamin.beaton) [17:22:31] Can someone help me out with a simple problem [17:22:47] [[Image:EDR-4011_-_7011NA.JPG|thumb|200px|Showing rear panel of 7050]] [17:23:04] When the user clicks on the IMG, i want it to take them to an external web page [17:23:31] !imagelinks | stipe__ [17:23:31] --mwbot-- stipe__: In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. [17:25:25] RoanKattouw: thanks. I was hoping there was a way i could do it without html [17:25:45] /w 8 [17:27:23] women.... [17:27:36] Just gonna go away for 5 mins, brb [17:27:52] ok [17:28:04] hey all, I just installed 1.14.0 and am configuring the email settings. I setup $wgSMTP and it sends fine but is there any way to set a friendly/realname for the sender that appears with account creation emails (for example) ? [17:29:59] hey I just installed mediawiki using the directions to put the files into /w/ and do an 'alias' to /wiki/ .. is there a file i can put in the root directory to redirect to /wiki/ or shold i just create a simple php page [17:30:39] i try using the securephp extension - Error �1146: Table 'mv.objectcache' doesn't exist - how should objectcache looks like or where can i read more? [17:34:20] "securephp" sounds like an extension with a horribly misleading name [17:37:05] it's not really what i want - but i haven't found a better solution - i just need php in a few pages of my wiki and don't know how to do this... [17:38:39] !shorturl @ Slade- [17:38:39] --mwbot-- To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [17:39:18] !imagelinks [17:39:18] --mwbot-- In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. [17:42:59] cirwin: yea i followed all that. and i now have /w and /wiki... however i wanted to know if there was a default page to put in / which redirects [17:43:08] cirwin: thats not covered on the wikipage [17:43:15] no, set it up in your webserver [17:43:34] just create a php page with a 302 redirect? [17:44:30] done [17:45:53] question2: how can i delete a test user? [17:57:35] or try the other way - how can my php-files recognize that a user is logged to my wiki [17:57:38] !imagelinks [17:57:38] --mwbot-- In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. [17:57:58] hey brion, did the earth move for ya? [17:58:53] i just updated to 1.14, and everything went ok. Now when i try to edit a page im getting: A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: [17:58:53] (SQL query hidden) [17:58:54] from within function "Article::getHiddenCategories". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'wikidb.page_props' doesn't exist (localhost)". [17:58:57] any ideas? :/ [17:59:59] stipe_: sounds like you need to run the post-upgrade schema update script thing [18:01:03] Splarka: it did :) [18:01:12] http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc40234037.htm [18:01:13] yeah i thought so, but i dont even have AdminSettings.php [18:01:56] so, who calls the USGS and says "hello, I didn't feel anything" [18:01:59] Guess it erased it, heh [18:02:00] > http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/dyfi/events/nc/40234037/us/nc40234037_ciim.jpg [18:02:30] pfiu, we get mag 6 earthquakes in Tokyo every week or so :p [18:02:46] yah, but nuclear dinosaurs don't count [18:03:04] nah, not really. but still, being on the 20th floor of a building when it occurs is _Not_ fun [18:03:20] yipe, is it at least on springs? [18:03:42] it moves quite a lot :s [18:03:55] no idea of how are made the foundations [18:04:09] the link between the bridges are interesting to look [18:04:16] usually on rails, so it can move [18:04:24] hmmm [18:05:23] Hi, I emptied a wiki page and want to move another page to that page but mediawiki won't let me? am I doing anything wrong? [18:06:24] tryggvib: "emptied" how did you empty it? by deleting or by blanking? [18:06:34] blanking [18:06:37] thefeldman: Finally back, sorry it took so long [18:06:47] is that not enough? [18:06:51] you need the 'delete' permission to move a page over an existing page [18:06:57] but when you have that, you can just delete it anyway [18:07:03] blanking won't work [18:07:03] rats, I'm not an admin [18:07:06] no prob [18:07:12] any workarounds? [18:07:26] tryggvib: nope, and its not supposed to have a workaround >.> [18:07:28] turn the page into a redirect, until an admin can move it [18:07:42] thanks Splarka [18:07:43] (the target that is, as a redirect to the old title) [18:07:57] I tried a few times and got a new error message: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured) [18:08:07] so if you want to move [[Foo]] to [[Bar]]. turn [[Bar]] into #REDIRECT [[Foo]] [18:08:26] and then pma starts the config file all over again [18:08:30] thefeldman: Do the PMA config thing again, and set the DB server to localhost this time, if you hadn't done that yet [18:08:43] NicDumZ: yeah it's been a dry spell here lately, we get excited over every little shake ;) [18:09:10] do you mean the server hostname or something else? [18:09:19] hello [18:09:27] brion, did you get any gsoc-wannabes that year ? [18:10:00] brion: Got my mail about the spammy GSoC application? [18:12:34] RoanKattouw: yep [18:12:41] thanks Splarka, saved me there :D [18:12:54] 03(NEW) SQL Errors on set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18261 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (conway.geraldine) [18:13:46] I just updated to version 1.14. Everything seems like it went ok. [18:14:01] now im getting database errors when trying to edit anything [18:14:06] Database error [18:14:23] 03(mod) SQL Errors on set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18261 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [18:14:29] stipe_: Run maintenance/update.php [18:14:34] See the upgrade manual for how to do that [18:14:36] !upgrade [18:14:36] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [18:14:53] Database error [18:14:55] From MaceWiki [18:14:57] Jump to: navigation, search [18:14:59] A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: [18:15:02] (SQL query hidden) [18:15:02] Please don't paste lots of text here [18:15:04] from within function "Article::getHiddenCategories". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'wikidb.page_props' doesn't exist (localhost)". [18:15:09] grr dont have php-cli installed [18:15:11] ok thanks [18:15:30] ok its on localhost but still... [18:16:07] it says new server added, but when I go to the pma start page its gone [18:17:01] thefeldman: When the setup script thingy writes the config file, you have to move it to the right place [18:17:13] So changes made in the setup wizard don't take effect until you do that [18:17:24] 03rotem * r49038 10/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Localization update for he. [18:18:01] the right place would be www.mydomain.de/phpmyadmin/config.file right? [18:18:30] Yes [18:18:49] The setup writes to /phpmyadmin/config/config.inc.php and you have to move that file one dir up [18:19:06] you know there's a #phpmyadmin, right? [18:19:11] If you don't have shell access, you can always do that through FTP by downloading it and uploading it somewhere else [18:19:38] well when I do that it still denies access but now the reason is: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured) [18:20:00] blh [18:20:16] Then I give up. flyingparchment's right, they know this stuff better over in #phpmyadmin [18:20:36] alright Ill try there. Thanks again [18:21:25] hi guys, anyone know about DPL? [18:21:40] I heard it doesn't work with 1.14, but I don't know where to find info on that [18:24:53] 03(mod) SQL Errors on set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18261 (10conway.geraldine) [18:28:02] hmmm the guy saif I have to start mysql first... Im uploading it right now [18:30:11] is there a possibility to block ip so it can't edit anonymously but it can create an account and from such ip registered user can edit? and if yes, it would be nice if some kind of message like "from this ip you can't edit anonymously, but you can register/log in and continue to work" was available... [18:30:36] Danny_B: Yes, that's possible. Block the IP but don't block account creation [18:30:58] and in the block message say "from this ip you can't edit anonymously..." [18:31:21] can i use template as block message? [18:31:43] since it's just 200 chars like any other summary, right? [18:32:38] hi there [18:32:54] http://www.coreboot.org/File:Foil-hgun2.jpg <-- any idea what went wrong here, or where I could check for more details? [18:33:14] neither php.log nor apache's error.log would reveil anything helpful so far [18:36:03] Hey Roan, that fixed it. [18:36:04] Thanks again. [18:36:42] !imagelinks [18:36:42] --mwbot-- In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. [18:37:20] 03(mod) Provide statistics about how many books/PDFs have been created/ordered through the Collection extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17192 +upstream (10brion) [18:39:09] Danny_B: I don't think templates work, but see http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?action=edit (logged in as User:Danny_B.) [18:40:13] did you block me? ;-) [18:40:30] a bit [18:40:32] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [18:40:44] hmm, I wonder if the block message uses the edit summary parser [18:40:53] Probably does [18:40:57] But that doesn't handle subst either [18:41:08] it does almost nothing but sections and some links [18:41:44] hi all [18:41:45] 10 minute test for ban message display: /This is a template test/ Redlink blue link external link w:interwiki link [18:42:34] the block message is inserted in the message and then parsed, so yes it should work [18:42:50] but not in Special:Recentchanges or Special:Log [18:43:36] Danny_B: per the test and ialex, templates will work [18:44:06] *Danny_B wonders what was the problem with templates he heard complains about then... [18:44:23] how can i set the time of how long history is stored? [18:44:38] Splarka: your scap map gadget is veeery nice ;-) and it works in IE8 :D [18:44:42] banym, history is forever [18:44:49] 03straussd * r49039 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/civicrm/: Remove old civicrm directory. [18:44:50] ah, i guess it was you can't put {{block reason template}} in the list of reasons or it did not work somehow [18:44:56] i'll try on testwiki to see [18:45:06] banym: You can't, historic revisions are kept forever [18:45:42] ashley: damn, hang on, lemme break it for IE8 [18:46:24] :D [18:46:49] :P [18:47:34] oh sorry. i mean the last changes site. there iam can review the last changes of the last 7 - 30 days can i configure it to see more? [18:47:48] Danny: yah, templates in default reasons probably don't work [18:48:06] !wg RCMaxAge [18:48:06] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRCMaxAge [18:48:19] banym: That link ---^ [18:48:30] RoanKattouw: thank you [18:50:58] hello [18:51:12] rarkerabbit [18:55:00] yuck! I've just seen DPL vs. MW 1.14 [18:55:34] Error in numRows(): Illegal mix of collations (latin1_bin,IMPLICIT), (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE), (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation 'replace' [18:55:45] That's not necessarily 1.14's fault [18:55:55] yeah, its a database thing [18:56:03] DPL! \o/ [18:56:16] domas, you like it? [18:56:22] OF COURSE [18:56:28] cool [18:56:45] what version are you rocking? [18:57:00] 1.7.4 within 1.14.0 [18:57:08] is there a tutorial like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial for generic wikis? That one has slightly too many references to Wikipedia [18:58:20] facefaceface is new here [18:58:24] doesn't know me, nor my sarcasm [18:58:48] domas, great [19:01:04] weird [19:01:33] templates are expanded in ipbreason-dropdown [19:01:54] 03straussd * r49040 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/civicrm/: Copy over CiviCRM 2.2.1. [19:02:00] but {{foo}} goes out even with those nowiki tags [19:03:29] 03straussd * r49041 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/civicrm/: Initialize svnmerge.py data. [19:07:33] 03(NEW) input fields on login mask are not equal in Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18262 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (umherirrender_de.wp) [19:07:35] 03(mod) Internet Explorer (IE) issues on Windows (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=640 (10umherirrender_de.wp) [19:09:26] 03straussd * r49042 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/civicrm/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Reapply local changes. [19:11:11] 14(INVALID) SQL Errors on set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18261 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [19:12:01] 03rarohde * r49043 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: [19:12:01] Adds fallback implementations of mb_strpos and mb_strrpos if native multi-byte support is not available. [19:12:01] See comments 65, 66, 68 on bug 6455. [19:16:48] Bleh mwbot left in the netsplit [19:16:48] !access | nootrope [19:16:48] --mwbot-- nootrope: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [19:16:49] nootrope: You probably want to upgrade to 1.14.0, it's the latest version [19:16:49] roan? I got it I am into pma [19:16:54] Great [19:17:13] Why didn't you install the current release version? (or even, at least, the latest security version of 1.13 [19:17:32] RoanKattouw: Hmm. Ok. But hopefully it's possible to do this even with 1.13.3? [19:17:34] I entered the name of the db I created with my domain host [19:17:42] instead of localhost [19:17:47] nootrope: Sure, but 1.14 has shiny new features :D [19:17:51] :) [19:17:58] thanks! [19:18:06] thefeldman: You've created a DB already? [19:18:19] If so, go to the DB in PMA and click the Import tab [19:19:31] shall I copy the exported script into a file? [19:20:27] 03(mod) Install the StringFunctions extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455 (10rohde) [19:22:00] thefeldman: Yes, copy the exported SQL into a file, then upload that to PMA in that form thingy you get when you click Import [19:22:35] when I do that it say that he cant create a database because the database already exists [19:23:00] What does the SQL file start with? CREATE DATABASE? [19:23:20] 03(mod) Name and password fields are different sizes on login form in Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18262 summary; +comment (10brion) [19:23:22] Probably best if you just threw the SQL file in the pastebin, see link in topic [19:27:38] import successful [19:27:46] Great [19:27:54] Now all you need to do is change some stuff in LocalSettings.php [19:28:07] The database settings and some stuff around $wgArticlePath will need to be updated [19:28:47] alright.. how? [19:30:31] or better: what kind of stuff`? [19:30:48] Database settings and $wgArticlePath and friends [19:30:52] Just edit the file and you'll see [19:31:29] 03raymond * r49044 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (103 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-03-30 19:33 UTC) [19:33:29] RoanKattouw: So, I followed the instructions for "Simple private wiki" and I still am able to create an account. DO I need to restart anything after uploading the edited LocalSettings.php? I can't tell if it took because I also added a line for a custom Logo and it's not showing either (I set it to the absolute path to the .gif). :\ [19:34:01] nootrope: You're allowed to create accounts while you're already logged in; can you also create accounts while logged out? [19:34:12] About the logo, try hard refreshing with Ctrl+F5 [19:34:42] RoanKattouw: yeah, i logged out and tried signing up. it let me [19:34:52] Hmm, it's not supposed to [19:35:04] Did you add stuff to the bottom of LocalSettings.php, as opposed to the top? [19:35:13] hah. ok i'll bang on it some more. appreciate your help! [19:35:25] Also did you edit LocalSettings.php in the wiki root directory rather than in the config/ subdir? [19:35:26] yeah, it's all at the bottom [19:35:43] and i edited the one in config directory [19:35:53] I cant find anything to change [19:35:56] You're supposed to edit the one in the directory above that [19:36:17] thefeldman: Not even database settings? Search for stuff starting with $wgDB [19:36:30] RoanKattouw: Duh! wow. i thought it was the ne in config/ [19:36:41] Thanks! [19:37:04] Yeah found them [19:38:59] 03(mod) SQL Errors on set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18261 (10conway.geraldine) [19:40:04] 03(mod) SQL Errors on set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18261 (10roan.kattouw) [19:42:29] ARGHHH [19:42:30] Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /homepages/15/d85958644/htdocs/Wiki1/includes/Exception.php on line 140 [19:43:00] thefeldman: Add $wgScriptExtension = '.php5'; to LocalSettings.php [19:45:40] just somewere? [19:45:51] Near the end [19:45:53] At the end. [19:49:01] still same error [20:00:12] thefeldman: Does the URL you're visiting end in .php ? [20:00:16] If so, change that to .php5 [20:04:19] Is it possible to disable templates that are of a certain containment depth not to be displayed in the "templates used on this page" list? [20:04:42] No [20:04:47] 03catrope * r49045 10/trunk/phase3/includes/QueryPage.php: Kill raw SQL in QueryPage::recache(). I can't find any code that actually calls recache(), though [20:04:50] How silly. [20:05:56] wow it worked thank you. And now I have a completly different error message [20:06:01] svip: subst them, heh [20:06:10] thefeldman: Which one? [20:06:10] (Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysqld.sock' (2) (localhost)) [20:06:20] Yet, even more silly, Splarka. [20:06:29] As it sort of defeats the purpose of these templates. [20:06:51] thefeldman: That looks like either a messed-up setup on your hosting's part, or you didn't set the DB settings correctly in LocalSettinsg [20:07:06] svip: then the most silly will be: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxTemplateDepth [20:07:18] Indeed. [20:07:29] I was not asking for a limit to the actual depth. [20:07:29] I figure the last one... [20:07:50] I was asking for a limit to the depth being DISPLAYED when editing articles. [20:08:21] svip: Due to the way the DB stores this stuff, that's not possible [20:09:26] Well, then, it is possible to hide "certain" templates? I have noticed they do something similar on Wikipedia. [20:09:27] "$wgDBserver = "localhost";" should i change that to the database hostname? [20:09:41] Yes [20:09:46] Use the same settings that you used for PMA [20:09:56] svip: With CSS, possibly [20:10:07] But I'm not aware of any of that going on on WP [20:16:07] svip: advanced selectors maybe, requiring CSS2/3 support [20:17:22] brb [20:18:21] svip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar?action=edit [20:18:52]
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Template:Citation/core (view source) (protected)
[20:19:12] you could hide the link and (view source) link with [20:19:40] .templatesUsed a[href*='Template:Citation/core'] {display:none;} [20:19:47] but the (view source) would still show [20:20:03] and it requires CSS3 [20:23:19] 03jnatividad * r49047 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/Ploticus/SRF_Ploticus.php: fixed missing close bracket as reported by John Major [20:24:02] How does mediawiki detect which skins are available in the user preferences window? I have two skins directories (lets say A and B) and for some reason when I set $wgStylePath and $wgStyleSheetPath to the path to B (default is A), the skins in B are used but only the ones located in A are listed. Why could that be? [20:28:40] On $IP what I have to put? [20:29:11] Nothing, $IP is supposed to be auto-generated [20:30:46] RoanKattouw: But I have created my wiki on localhost and now I have moved it on a host... Don't I have to change $IP??? [20:30:57] No [20:31:12] It's autogenerated on runtime IIRC [20:31:31] Ok, thanks... What I have to change after the move? [20:32:31] Possibly $wgArticlePath and friends [20:33:14] Not $wgScriptPath? [20:33:23] That's considered a friend of articlepath :P [20:33:33] But yes, probably that one too [20:33:50] And on $wgScriptPath what I have to put? [20:34:52] The path to index.php, without "index.php" [20:35:10] (relative URL) [20:35:33] 03raymond * r49048 10/trunk/extensions/ (70 files in 66 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-03-30 19:55 UTC) [20:43:04] I've a problem: I've moved database on my host, and then also the "mediawiki" folder, via FTP... But now, my host write: [20:43:06] Index of / [20:43:07] * cgi-bin/ [20:43:09] Apache/2.2.11 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.11 OpenSSL/0.9.8b mod_bwlimited/1.4 Server at www.1eiwiki.netsons.org Port 80 [20:47:10] RoanKattouw: Why I have to put "mediawiki folder"??? ^ [20:47:12] roan... it worked..... got my wiki online thanks for all your help. [20:49:22] RoanKattouw: *Where :-) [20:49:26] not why [21:08:45] 03(mod) Allow searching in intersections, etc. of categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5244 (10kevinjduke) [21:19:32] Hi together, I need help setting up my wikie.. whenever I want to change the start page, I get the messaga 404 file not found when saving [21:20:48] how do I fix that? [21:24:28] 03(NEW) Single quote in file name confuses reupload form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18263 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (lupo.bugzilla) [21:24:52] does someone know what to do? [21:25:39] hmm [21:26:21] 03(mod) Upgrade Bugzilla to 3.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16777 major->normal; high->low; +comment (10brion) [21:27:41] TardiSHQ, something is wrong [21:27:55] I noticed that ;-) [21:28:06] 03(mod) Provide consistent native way to attribute offsite users in revision history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18209 (10brion) [21:30:21] 03(mod) A "current" version of the upload.tar dir would be nice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1298 +comment (10brion) [21:30:24] how do I fix that? Id like to use my wiki [21:32:19] hard to know with so few data [21:32:25] 03(mod) SPF (Sender Policy Framework) anti-forgery DNS record - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1609 +comment (10brion) [21:32:33] what do you need? [21:33:01] where is pointint the edit form action? [21:33:53] could you rephrase that pls? I am new to this [21:34:44] is the wiki public? [21:34:50] 03(mod) Possible DB corruption on fr.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1919 (10brion) [21:34:53] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:34:59] 03(mod) Incorrect history date on Portuguese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2219 (10brion) [21:35:04] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:35:09] 03(mod) Bogus MediaWiki: message entries in page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2559 (10brion) [21:35:11] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:35:41] sounds fun ^ [21:36:35] yeah kind of [21:36:49] 03(WONTFIX) More optimal download of large files / zsync / rsync - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2923 +comment (10brion) [21:37:29] it will be as soon as it works properly [21:37:36] 03(FIXED) wrong "please check back" link on overload or down-page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3018 +comment (10brion) [21:39:02] 03(mod) Wikimedia Statistics use a nonstandard way of including SVG's in pages. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4152 +comment (10brion) [21:39:50] 04(REOPENED) Invalid usernames on Wikimedia web sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3507 (10brion) [21:39:52] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:42:04] 03(mod) some server hostnames seems wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4098 +comment (10brion) [21:42:07] 03(ASSIGNED) Complete migration of all application servers from Fedora to Ubuntu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17452 (10brion) [21:42:21] 04(REOPENED) Username of all whitespaces in German Wikipedia dump file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4312 (10brion) [21:42:23] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:43:31] 03(mod) Wikimedia Statistics use a nonstandard way of including SVG's in pages. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4152 +comment (10brion) [21:44:00] 03(mod) Categories created using Tamil words not recognised in stats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4537 +comment (10brion) [21:44:44] 03(mod) Error in editing timestamp? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4744 (10brion) [21:44:45] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:44:47] 04(REOPENED) Usernames with initial-lowercase letters need to be cleaned up across Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5230 (10brion) [21:45:01] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:45:23] 03(mod) Include uncompressed file sizes in data dump download pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6064 (10brion) [21:46:48] 03(mod) Provide/get redirect/view stats for disambig pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6232 +comment (10brion) [21:46:55] 03(mod) Database error: Edits not in correct order (afterwards) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6871 (10brion) [21:46:57] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:48:03] 03(FIXED) multiple users running into phantom "page does not exist" errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7401 +comment (10brion) [21:50:01] 14(INVALID) RFE: provide listings for image dump tarballs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7789 +comment (10brion) [21:51:19] 03(mod) Install ImportFreeImages (Flickr) extension on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8854 (10brion) [21:51:43] wow :) [21:52:07] 14(INVALID) eml interwiki broken on srv60 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9457 (10brion) [21:52:35] 03(mod) Add a syadmin annotation system for backup dump runner - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9513 (10brion) [21:54:09] 14(WFM) Java interfering with Wikipedia pages but not other Wikimedia pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10829 +comment (10brion) [21:54:54] 03(FIXED) Don't post message on channel if changing CC field only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10842 +comment (10brion) [21:54:57] 03(RESOLVED) Don't report changes to wikibugs-l when only the CC changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15585 (10brion) [21:56:15] 03(mod) bug in mailman version 2.1.9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11186 +comment (10brion) [21:56:42] 03(mod) Database statistics for Wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11362 +comment (10brion) [21:57:21] 03(mod) Ghost entries in bgwiki.categorylinks; wanted categories affected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12168 (10brion) [21:57:23] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:57:43] 03(mod) The revision size is not available for old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 (10brion) [21:57:46] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [21:59:05] 03(mod) 404 error should be localised - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12302 +comment (10brion) [21:59:07] 03(mod) New 404 error page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17316 (10brion) [22:00:34] 14(INVALID) missing directionality buttons for the 'textarea' when viewing the source of a protected page (project dependent) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12361 +comment (10brion) [22:01:41] 03(mod) Incomplete Renameuser cases on Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12969 (10brion) [22:01:44] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [22:02:04] 03(mod) Add a link to Domas' Wikistats files from the Download page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13245 (10brion) [22:02:44] 03(mod) Wiki data dump bzip2 -> 7zip conversion doesn't report failure on corrupt input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13637 (10brion) [22:03:24] 03(mod) Several channels missing from irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13646 +comment (10brion) [22:04:01] 03(mod) Undelete page with invalid title at en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13729 (10brion) [22:04:03] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [22:05:09] 03(mod) Entries in the image table with invalid titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14365 (10brion) [22:05:12] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [22:05:18] i thought brion was ill [22:05:36] 03(mod) Include uncompressed sizes in dump file RSS info - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14631 (10brion) [22:05:44] if i was well, would i be crawling bugzilla? [22:06:13] Whatever happened with those page statistics that somebody was hired to work on? [22:06:22] 03(mod) Edits reversed in page history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14816 (10brion) [22:06:26] 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [22:07:23] 03(mod) update footer link(s) on ganglia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14935 (10brion) [22:07:58] 03(mod) optimise tag on ganglia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14936 (10brion) [22:08:06] <Dewin> Is there a good "clean" source of standard Mediawiki templates comparable to the commonly-used ones on Wikipedia? I would just Special:Export those, but they're going into a "closed" project and I'm trying to avoid violating any licenses. [22:08:12] <brion> Marybelle: http://infodisiac.com/ ? [22:08:31] <Marybelle> Erik Zachte. That's the name I was looking for. :-) [22:10:06] <Marybelle> brion: Are per page view stats on Erik's agenda? Sites like http://stats.grok.se/ are fantastic, but they're run by individual volunteers, which is a bit .. messy. [22:11:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) The revision size is not available for old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 (10Bryan.TongMinh) [22:11:47] <wikibugs> 14(WFM) wiki// - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15752 +comment (10brion) [22:12:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Recalculate statistic data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15779 (10brion) [22:12:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [22:12:17] <brion> Marybelle: things are being slowly integrated :) [22:12:31] <brion> feel free to contact erik directly rather than asking other people what he's up to ;) [22:12:31] <Marybelle> Excellent. [22:12:48] <Marybelle> You know all, though. ;-) [22:14:19] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) History links for transcluded templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16132 +comment (10brion) [22:14:46] <Splarka> Dewin: closed projects don't violate GFDL unless you redistribute to people who don't have access to it [22:15:09] <Marybelle> Appending ?redirect=no on the template links would be nice, though. [22:15:27] <Marybelle> 'cause clicking a bunch of template links and ending up at the same place is kinda gross. [22:15:47] <wikibugs> 14(WFM) Banner Ad -- Prohibitively Slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16245 +comment (10brion) [22:18:21] <Platonides> isn't that a feature of a donation banner? ;) [22:20:23] <Dewin> Splarka: I'm currently working on two wikis. One is private developer documentation for a project. Some pages in a category on that wiki will be periodically exported to a separate wiki that is public (read-only) end-user documentation. [22:21:13] <Splarka> ahh, that would violate GFDL then [22:21:32] <Splarka> bummer! write your own templates then [22:21:43] <Splarka> they're just wikicode, css, and tables for the most part [22:22:01] <Dewin> Yeah, I've made some, but they aren't as "pretty" as the wikimedia ones. [22:22:02] <Splarka> bum some styles from mediawiki.org's Help: namespace [22:22:03] <Skizzerz> couldn't you clarify that specific templates, etc. are GFDL while the rest of the site is not? [22:22:03] <Dewin> Hmm [22:22:23] <Splarka> Skizzerz: the private wiki would have edits to the templates that wouldn't have full history available [22:22:31] <Skizzerz> hmm [22:22:38] <Splarka> and those templates would be distributed in the contents of the articles on the public wiki [22:22:45] <Skizzerz> scary transclusion? [22:22:51] <Splarka> same thing [22:23:15] <Dewin> Skizzerz: It's not a matter of where the content is as much as how it is presented. [22:23:28] <Splarka> Dewin doesn't want to expose the closed wiki to scrutiny, so by putting GFDL templates into it, and then exporting them in any way, but not showing the history, is technically bad GFDL [22:23:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Several channels missing from irc.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13646 (10Platonides) [22:23:53] <Skizzerz> Splarka: I meant have the templates on the public wiki and make edits there, transcluding them to the private wiki [22:24:07] <Splarka> well, that would work yah [22:24:23] <Skizzerz> which would at least preserve the GFDL of the templates to an extent, but then there's still caching issues plus the fact that GFDL content is mixed with non-GFDL content [22:24:30] <Splarka> but then it would have to be a sort of bi-directional privacy thing [22:24:57] <wikibugs> 03(RESOLVED) Banner Ad -- Prohibitively Slow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16245 +comment (10angelofvic) [22:25:00] <Splarka> the public wiki Template: namespace would cascade to the private, and the private wiki documentation namespaces would cascade to the Public (or be manually exported), messy! [22:25:10] <Dewin> Splarka: Since anything exported to the public wiki will need to export the templates as well, they'd theoretically still be there. And as far as "read-only" on the public wiki goes -- that's more to prevent vandalism, my boss might be okay if we release our documentation as GFDL as well (just not allow editing of the master copy) [22:25:27] <Splarka> oh, 'read only'? [22:25:34] <Splarka> I thought you meant completely closed [22:25:45] <Splarka> as long as anyone can view article histories on the closed, GFDL isn't violated [22:25:46] <Skizzerz> well, there is always the tried-and-true method of disregarding the license of other stuff and just copy/pasting (ignorance is bliss, or so they say) [22:25:52] <Dewin> Splarka: One closed except to developers [22:26:09] <Dewin> But, say, all pages in [[Category:Public Documentation]] would be exported to the public wiki with full revision history [22:26:18] <Dewin> Including any templates, etc. they pull. [22:26:20] <Splarka> Dewin: well, in theory is all fine, but here is a handy in-practice test [22:26:35] <Splarka> lets say you saw some particular template in a document, as an end user [22:26:51] <Splarka> could you trace that template back, with simple clicking, to the original author on whatever.wikipedia it came from? [22:27:43] <Splarka> click document, click edit, click templates-used, click template history, click earliest, click "Copied from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Foo?oldid=12345", click history, scan history for authors [22:28:08] <Splarka> heh, for fun one day, I decided to track down the author of the monobook user.gif [22:28:15] <Dewin> Well it'd be view-source not edit, but if my boss doesn't mind our documentation being easy to copy (and I can't see why she'd have a problem with it), yes. [22:28:26] <Marybelle> Your idea of fun is a bit off. [22:28:37] <Splarka> http://dev.plone.org/plone/log/CMFPlone/trunk/skins/plone_images/user.gif?rev=2888 [22:29:15] <Dewin> The bigger issue is the images that are used in alot of the base templates, which are harder to get a revision history for. [22:29:18] <Splarka> ^which was not simple [22:29:31] <Splarka> heh [22:29:35] <Dewin> since Special:Export doesn't grab images [22:42:29] <Galaxor> Hi. I'm trying to upgrade from 1.11.0 to 1.14.0. When I try to run update.php, I get an error 'Magic word 'expr' not found [22:42:37] <Galaxor> and a stack trace. [22:43:31] <Galaxor> Is this a known problem? [22:43:34] <Marybelle> Install the ParserFunctions extension? [22:43:37] <Marybelle> Or update it? [22:43:57] <Galaxor> Oh, I didn't realize I had to do that separately. [22:44:28] <Marybelle> update.php updates the database only. [22:47:06] <Galaxor> Okay. I got the latest ParserFunctions and it seems to be going smoothly. Thanks. [22:48:52] <Marybelle> :-) [22:54:47] <wikibugs> 14(INVALID) Upload: add Access-Control-Allow-Origin header to responses. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16270 +comment (10brion) [22:55:20] <werdna> ohai [22:57:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) XML meta dumps do not contain/update restrictions tags anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16360 +comment (10brion) [22:59:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Provide SSL/HTTPS interface to upload.wikimedia.org and use it for SSL-served pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16822 (10brion) [22:59:53] <Splarka> hey brion: when you're bored, try uploading via URL with javascript disabled [23:00:05] <brion> sounds fun. what happens? [23:00:26] <Splarka> the radio button doesn't remove disabled="disabled" [23:00:28] <Splarka> so, nothing happens [23:00:39] <Splarka> javascript only features = bad <3 [23:01:11] <Splarka> shall I open a bugzilla? [23:01:13] <brion> hah [23:01:13] <Skizzerz> have it enabled at the beginning and use javascript to disable it initially? [23:01:14] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Add a link to Domas' Wikistats files from the Download page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13245 +comment (10tfinc) [23:01:14] <brion> sure [23:01:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Logging dump seems to generate really slow, doesn't give status feedback, is lumped with stub dumps confusingly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17262 +comment (10brion) [23:02:24] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Some pages doesn't show it's size in history page and {{PAGESIZE}} in jawp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17421 +comment (10brion) [23:02:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) The revision size is not available for old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12188 +comment (10brion) [23:03:45] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Update commons image count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17802 (10brion) [23:03:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 (10brion) [23:04:26] *tomaszf watches brion have way too much fun assigning bugzilla bugs [23:04:31] <brion> \o/ [23:04:48] <atglenn> don't speak up, if he notices you you might get some (more) [23:04:53] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Cannot use "upload by URL" feature with javascript disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18264 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (herd) [23:06:50] <Splarka> that is something one has to admire about MediaWiki (vanilla, and Wikimedia's specific setup), there is almost nothing that depends on javascript, other than a few things that are only useful with javascript (such as category tree views, or allmessages filtering) [23:06:59] <Splarka> too many sites are just totally broken with it disabled [23:07:55] <Splarka> if(bad_analogy == true) if a website is a meal, javascript is the dessert... sure, it can be fun, but don't force the diabetics to eat it [23:10:01] <OverlordQ> what does that make flash? The crazy uncle who nobody wants around? [23:10:17] <Splarka> the vomitorium [23:10:46] <Splarka> you: "wow, I'm so stuffed on this website I couldn't digest another bit" flash: "go barf up for a while and come back for seconds!" [23:12:18] <Splarka> and of course it is patent-entangled and proprietary [23:13:48] <CIA-78> 03aaron * r49049 10/trunk/phase3/includes/QueryPage.php: Fixed fatal from r49045 [23:15:52] <Splarka> By regurgitating in our vomitorium you grant the unqualified, unrestricted, unconditional, unlimited, worldwide, irrevocable, perpetual and royalty free right, license, authorization and permission, in any form or format, on or through any media or medium and with any technology or devices now known or hereafter developed or discovered, in whole or in part, to host, cache, store, maintain, use, reproduce, distribute, display, exhibit, perform, and other [23:16:26] <CIA-78> 03aaron * r49050 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Interwiki.php: Tweak brackets from r49012 [23:16:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Timezone needs update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17797 +upstream; +comment (10brion) [23:16:49] <Splarka> > otherwise exploit all or any portion of your puke. [23:17:00] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Database table "blobs" is full - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17891 (10brion) [23:17:26] <wikibugs> 03(mod) logo update at german wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17861 (10brion) [23:19:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Search suggest broken for an exist article on de.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17909 -shell (10brion) [23:19:42] <Dewin> hmm... wikipedia is having issues. [23:19:50] <Splarka> it has a whole subscription [23:20:23] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Install standard anti-abuse extensions on usabilitywiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18139 +comment (10brion) [23:20:37] <Dewin> (Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.0.235)) [23:21:00] <Dewin> I guess I'll have to wait awhile to see how they do something ;) [23:21:42] <Splarka> brion, stop skuttling bugs, fix wp ^_^ [23:23:21] <werdna> that's not a MediaWiki issue [23:23:24] <werdna> we're dealing with it [23:28:38] <[]-> Q: how to make table with background color equal to that of wiki page ? [23:29:16] <Simetrical> {| style="background: transparent" [23:29:38] *Splarka again wonders why monobook has to spread its white stuff all over the table [23:30:33] <Simetrical> Splarka, so that borders from headings don't run into tables. [23:30:51] <Simetrical> Float a table right and have some headers with the underlines that go past it. [23:31:01] <Splarka> right, but that's just bad wikicode to allow that [23:31:02] <Simetrical> Or more to the point, an image, etc. [23:31:15] <[]-> Splarka, thank you for help [23:31:20] <Simetrical> You need padding (or border) that's opaque and matches the background to hide that. [23:31:27] <Splarka> Simetrical helped you [23:31:33] <Splarka> I just made an innuendoish comment [23:31:39] <Danny_B> is there scap planned before berlin meeting? [23:31:39] *Danny_B would like to know how much time he has for his planned commit [23:31:42] <Simetrical> Oh, no, I remember. [23:31:44] <Simetrical> It's even worse. [23:31:50] <CIA-78> 03aaron * r49051 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php: (bug 18263) Escape single-quotes for wpDestForm [23:31:53] <Splarka> IE7 still does that sometimes, IIRC [23:31:55] <Simetrical> If you set the background transparent, the lines run *under* the table content. [23:32:00] <Simetrical> Looks horrible. [23:32:11] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Single quote in file name confuses reupload form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18263 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [23:32:13] <Simetrical> Splarka, what, make innuendoish comments? [23:32:24] <Splarka> "spread its white stuff all over the table" [23:32:34] <Splarka> if I did that I'd be registered as a sex offender [23:33:07] <Splarka> but no, I mean, there are some situations where IE7 will have a line through an image, IIRC [23:33:28] <Splarka> a contrived set of position, float, scroll, and overflow [23:33:43] <Splarka> ^or [23:47:43] <[]-> Simetrical, ups, thank you for help too [23:49:30] <Splarka> Simetrical: so, what would happen if they used inherit instead of white? would they inherit undeclared (or transparency) from #bodyContent or the white from #content ? [23:49:47] <Simetrical> Splarka, inherit doesn't work in IE < 8. [23:49:55] <Splarka> IEfixes exist for a reason [23:50:05] <Simetrical> Anyway, it would inherit from the parent. [23:50:06] <Splarka> mostly to piss off anyone who has to deal with them, but they also exist to fix IE [23:50:12] <Simetrical> The parent most likely has a transparent background. [23:50:22] <Simetrical> Since the property isn't normally inherited. [23:50:29] <Splarka> bodyContent has nothing declared, yah [23:53:06] <Simetrical> Who says it would be a child of bodyContent? Could be some random div. [23:54:09] <Splarka> #bodyContent, #bodyContent * {background-color:inherit} [23:54:11] *Splarka hides [23:55:38] <Simetrical> Or you could just customize table backgrounds in the same rules you use to set body backgrounds?