[00:00:00] <Splarka>	probably, but people are dumb
[00:24:38] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49052 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: type safety
[00:28:03] <xaxxon>	hey, I'm trying to use an extension that makes rss feeds, but it's outputing invalid xml - apparently because it has an extra newline before the <?xml line.. but it's using wgFeedClasses stuff to do it, which is a builtin?
[00:28:11] <xaxxon>	I take the xml I get, remove the newline, and it works
[00:28:45] <xaxxon>	but there's no explicit newline, it just appears to be using this wgFeedClasses object to generate the XML.. so how to get it to lose the newline?
[00:31:20] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Dhani Harrison links to download - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18265 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (email)
[00:36:10] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49053 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
[00:36:10] <CIA-78>	* Added $wgFlagAvailability
[00:36:10] <CIA-78>	* Call static function statically
[00:36:26] <flyingparchment>	xaxxon: is it possible you accidentally put a blank line in the extension source, or LocalSettings.php, or some other file?
[00:36:31] <flyingparchment>	that will make php include a blank line in the public
[00:37:00] <xaxxon>	nod
[00:55:15] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49054 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/RevisionReview_body.php: Don't apply $wgFlagAvailability to level 0
[00:58:37] <chzz>	Q if you're transcluding {{Special:Prefixindex/User:xxxx/}}   is there a way to limit the number of entries returned?
[01:00:46] <VolVE>	hey all, I just setup 1.14.0 and followed the Short URL section of the manual, and if I go to site.com/wiki/Main_Page everything works and the links are all short and nice, but if I go to just site.com/wiki I get a redirect loop, ugh, any ideas? :\
[01:05:37] <Splarka>	chzz: the Special:Newpages transclusion mode has that option, but not Prefixindex
[01:06:44] <chzz>	Splarka I think Newpages (and Newusers) can't be transcluded?
[01:07:10] <Splarka>	Newpages can
[01:07:19] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialNewpages.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain
[01:07:56] <Splarka>	as can a handful of others, Prefixindex/Allpages/Recentchanges...
[01:08:08] <chzz>	interesting. Can you think of any way (without hacking the c#) to display 10 new users on a page?
[01:08:47] <Splarka>	you mean like the last 10 entries of Special:Log/newuser ?
[01:09:08] <chzz>	yes.
[01:09:20] <Splarka>	er newusers, hmm, dunno, DPL? h
[01:09:39] <Mike_lifeguard>	DPL doesn't do that AFAIK
[01:13:06] <flyingparchment>	chzz: C#?
[01:13:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Phase I usernames with underscores break the system. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323  +comment (10grahamwp)
[01:15:42] <chzz>	flyingparchment Sorry, I meant the php. Am trying to find a way to list the n most recently created users who have made contribs on a page. Like, the 1st 10 of "Special:ListUsers&dir=prev&editsOnly=1&creationSort=1&Contributions"
[01:18:33] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/newbies
[01:18:41] <Splarka>	not transcludable but sorta does that
[01:20:43] <Splarka>	I think you'll have to write a specific tag extension
[01:22:39] <chzz>	I see. I've been hunting; seems like one of those things that should be easy, so I thought I was missing someth. But fair enough; guess it can't really be done (ie on en.wikipedia) - ie to have a page that shows the most recent new users who have made an edit (as part of that page)
[01:30:31] <Rudha-an>	Hm.  Is there a way to get wikilinks to diffs, at all?
[01:30:36] <Rudha-an>	Anything at all that does that?
[01:31:21] <VolVE>	ok, so apparently my install is failing trying to create the searchindex table. "#1283 - Column 'si_title' cannot be part of FULLTEXT index"
[01:31:27] <Splarka>	action paths maybe? but maybe not
[01:32:05] <Rudha-an>	Hm?
[01:32:39] *Splarka 	doesn't actually think action paths can wikilink anyway, just make pretty urls
[01:33:06] <Rudha-an>	Yeah.  I was hoping for a wikilink, so that I can easily link to a verification diff in a signature.
[01:33:40] <Splarka>	best you can do is something like <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:PAGE TITLE|&diff=12345}} PAGE TITLE]</span>
[01:34:09] <Splarka>	or just [{{fullurl:PAGE TITLE|&diff=12345}}] or {{fullurl:PAGE TITLE|&diff=12345}} if you don't mind the external link icon
[01:39:18] <VolVE>	Ok so has anyone installed 1.14.0 on mysql 5.0 successfully? It's bitching at me that searchindex.si_title can't be fulltext, and then the whole install fails, then if I try and run it again it ignores that huge error and my install is essentially incomplete... :/
[01:40:37] <Rudha-an>	Splarka: Thanks.  I ended up just doing the full link, though.
[01:41:01] <Splarka>	Rudha-an: fullurl should take up less raw-code real estate anyway, if marginally
[01:41:52] <Rudha-an>	Splarka: Ah, alright.  Thank you.  I'll fix that the next time that I log in to the sock.
[01:42:21] <Rudha-an>	Also, I don't know if wiktionary has the template fullurl.  =\
[01:42:36] <Rudha-an>	Nope.
[01:42:38] <Rudha-an>	Nada.
[01:43:29] <Splarka>	it is a core parser function
[01:44:33] <Rudha-an>	Ah, alright.
[01:44:41] *Rudha-an 	writes down what to change next time.  :D
[01:44:42] <Splarka>	http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:ExpandTemplates?input=%7B%7Bfullurl%3AWiktionary%3AMain_Page%7Cdiff%3Dprev%7D%7D
[01:44:47] <Rudha-an>	Ohhhhhhh.
[01:44:48] <Rudha-an>	Thanks.
[01:44:48] <Rudha-an>	:D
[01:45:04] *Splarka 	<3 expandtemplates
[01:45:40] <Rudha-an>	Splarka: How would I get that to show up as smalltext?
[01:46:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Phase I usernames with underscores break the system. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323  (10grahamwp)
[01:46:27] <Rudha-an>	It's in a signature, I don't want the verify link to be very big if it doesn't have to be.
[01:47:51] <Rudha-an>	nevermind.  I figured it out.
[01:48:54] <Splarka>	<small> ^_^
[01:49:29] <Splarka>	<span style="font-size:75%" class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:PAGE TITLE|&diff=12345}} PAGE TITLE]</span>
[01:58:52] <Rudha-an>	Splarka: Ah, alright, thanks.  :D
[02:00:34] <Rudha-an>	Splarka: Invalid raw signature .... should I stick that on a user subpage and use {{subst}} instead?
[02:01:00] <Splarka>	invalid? oh, it probably doesn't like {{fullur:}}, bah
[02:01:10] <Rudha-an>	Right.  I'll use a subst page then.
[02:01:20] <Splarka>	sig nazis ^_^
[02:01:25] <Rudha-an>	Yeah.
[02:01:27] <Rudha-an>	Subst gets around that.
[02:01:53] *Splarka 	doesn't think people should use signature templates, but doesn't think parserfunctions should be disallowed either, bah
[02:02:14] <flyingparchment>	if you need a parser function in your template, you're doing it wrong
[02:02:35] <flyingparchment>	what is wrong with "-- Username | Talk" as a signature?
[02:02:42] <Rudha-an>	flyingparchment: This is a sock account.
[02:02:57] <flyingparchment>	so?
[02:02:58] <Rudha-an>	I need to link to a verification diff in the signature.
[02:03:03] <flyingparchment>	why?
[02:03:11] <Rudha-an>	Because I'm an administrator there and it's good form.
[02:03:12] <flyingparchment>	... and why not just link to the diff
[02:03:17] <Rudha-an>	Because the link is SLOPPY.
[02:03:21] <Rudha-an>	And looks like crap.  :D
[02:03:32] <flyingparchment>	it will look exactly the same doing it this way
[02:03:35] <Rudha-an>	Nope.
[02:03:46] <flyingparchment>	yep
[02:03:53] <Rudha-an>	This allows me to <sub> the link.
[02:04:06] <flyingparchment>	why couldn't you do that with the url?
[02:04:24] <Rudha-an>	Because it was giving me an invalid html argument in the sig thing.
[02:04:38] <flyingparchment>	that was fullurl, no?
[02:05:00] <Rudha-an>	Nope.
[02:05:15] <Rudha-an>	It did it to <sub> too, when trying to get the url link to do that.
[02:05:30] <flyingparchment>	we should just disallow all templates in sig
[02:06:02] <Rudha-an>	Then I'd complain.
[02:06:08] <Rudha-an>	And so would lotsa other folk.
[02:06:11] <flyingparchment>	that's okay, we're good at ignoring users
[02:06:19] <Rudha-an>	:D
[02:06:33] <werdna>	flyingparchment: http://toolserver.org/~river/recentchanges/ is pretty awesome
[02:07:43] <flyingparchment>	werdna: yes.  it must have been created by someone whose awesomeness is comparable only to god
[02:07:45] <Emachman>	werdna: that's awesome
[02:07:47] <Splarka>	flyingparchment: then they'd just make a manual sig customeditbutton ^_^
[02:07:50] <werdna>	...
[02:07:52] <Emachman>	and flyingparchment too, of course
[02:08:00] <werdna>	Rudha-an: you know you could just add a link to your userpage
[02:12:58] <Rudha-an>	werdna: Eh.
[02:54:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Account creation log should log originating wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18266 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mapellegrini)
[02:56:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Account creation log should log originating wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18266  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[03:00:06] <Marybelle>	No, Mike_lifeguard, silly.
[03:00:11] <Marybelle>	The originating wiki!
[03:02:23] <Splarka>	the referer?
[03:03:00] <Marybelle>	I already tried to explain pre-filing that "originating" made no damn sense. He obviously didn't listen to me.
[03:03:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Account creation log should log originating wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18266  (10mapellegrini)
[03:11:12] <Biskit>	is there anyone here that can help with a windows/apache install?
[03:25:07] <AaronSchulz>	Biskit: just state the issue
[03:25:50] <Biskit>	after installing mediawiki - when I try to start it - I get a page not found
[03:26:04] <Biskit>	at the moment I'm re-installing it 
[03:26:39] <Biskit>	just moving localsettings to the root dir
[03:27:15] <Biskit>	ok - this time it worked - i removed a space in the name of the parent directory
[03:29:53] <Biskit>	not needed now - thanks
[03:40:10] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49055 10/trunk/extensions/HoneypotIntegration/ (HoneypotIntegration.class.php HoneypotIntegration.php): ProjectHoneypot Integration updates: Actually implement list parsing, storage and retrieval in memcached.
[03:48:21] <CIA-78>	03soxred93 * r49056 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryUsers.php): Added usprop=gender to list=users
[03:56:04] <Splarka>	Emachman: now you just need age/location, bow chicka
[03:56:20] <Emachman>	:)
[03:56:39] <Splarka>	MediaWiki:Gadget-getsometail.js
[03:56:40] <Emachman>	We have 1/3 of the a/s/l
[04:00:42] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49057 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/SpecialAbuseLog.php: Change join on abuse_filter to a LEFT JOIN to fix details view for matches on global filters
[04:02:35] <Mike_lifeguard>	Why are they called LEFT JOIN and RIGHT JOIN etc?
[04:02:49] <Mike_lifeguard>	surely left and right aren't used literally
[04:04:44] <werdna>	LEFT JOIN means that the column on the left is required but the column on the right isn't
[04:04:48] <werdna>	RIGHT JOIN is the reverse
[04:04:58] <werdna>	that one was an INNER JOIN, which means both are required
[04:05:01] <werdna>	s/column/row from the table/
[04:06:21] <Mike_lifeguard>	what if the columns aren't beside one another?
[04:07:03] <werdna>	the left column is the one which isn't being joined on.
[04:07:29] *Mike_lifeguard 	nods and smiles
[04:07:33] <werdna>	so SELECT * FROM abuse_filter_log LEFT JOIN abuse_filter ON af_id=afl_filter WHERE afl_id=X;
[04:07:41] <werdna>	see that the abuse_filter_log column is to the left? :)
[04:07:47] <werdna>	IT people suck at naming stuff
[04:07:55] <Mike_lifeguard>	oh, in the query
[04:08:24] <MooingLemur>	werdna: no kidding, it takes me months to name a pet.
[04:47:31] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Rollback doesn't update links tables appropriately - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18267 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (public)
[04:48:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restore revision numbers in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18242  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[04:54:39] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) MediaWiki:securepoll-not-started needs date and time separated. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18268 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[04:55:11] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49058 10/branches/preferences-work/phase3/includes/User.php: Kill some warnings
[05:12:42] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add Extension:SecurePoll to bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18269 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[05:14:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Extension:SecurePoll to bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18269  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[05:18:09] <CIA-78>	03purodha * r49059 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/ (SecurePoll.i18n.php includes/VotePage.php): (Bug 18268) Added date and time parameters.
[05:44:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Red Links for Userpage/Talk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18270 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (scd)
[05:54:08] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) MediaWiki:regexblock-match-stats-record needs date and time separated in Extension:regexBlock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18271 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: RegexBlock; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[05:57:33] <CIA-78>	03purodha * r49060 10/trunk/extensions/regexBlock/ (SpecialRegexBlock.php regexBlock.i18n.php): (bug 18271) date and time separated in message regexblock-match-stats-record.
[06:00:45] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) MediaWiki:regexblock-match-stats-record needs date and time separated in Extension:regexBlock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18271  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[06:02:25] <Appleman1234>	Hi
[06:03:20] <charitwo>	hi
[06:05:53] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Half-stylesheet solution botches 'Other special pages' at the bottom of Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17974  +comment (10jidanni)
[06:05:56] <Appleman1234>	I setup a wiki, following the install guide, and then attempted to restrict access following restrict access instructions in the manual, but it still let me edit pages as an unlogged in user, any idea why ?
[06:15:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding categories via CSS violates accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15637  (10jidanni)
[06:20:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding categories via CSS violates accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15637  +comment (10Andrew)
[06:27:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) MediaWiki:stableversions-review needs date and time separated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18272 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[06:30:28] <CIA-78>	03purodha * r49061 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (Bug 18272) separate date, time in massage stableversions-review
[06:31:15] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) MediaWiki:stableversions-review needs date and time separated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18272  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[06:32:30] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) MediaWiki:securepoll-not-started needs date and time separated. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18268  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[06:39:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding categories via CSS violates accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15637  (10jidanni)
[06:42:47] <pist0l-fish>	I have a page called banana, how can I make it so that bananas also points to banana?
[06:43:20] <ilyak_>	#redirect [[banana]]
[06:43:44] <pist0l-fish>	ilyak_: many thanks
[06:47:29] <Appleman1234>	I setup a wiki, following the install guide, and then attempted to restrict access following restrict access instructions in the manual, but it still let me edit pages as an unlogged in user, any idea why ?
[06:53:34] <OverlordQ>	you missed something? used the wrong directions? magical beans?
[06:56:59] <pist0l-fish>	AppleMan1234: All you have to do is add the line $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']=false; to your LocalSettings.php
[06:57:55] <Appleman1234>	pist0l-fish, ok I will try that
[06:58:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Don't jumble Wanted Categories into Wanted Pages anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18273 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (jidanni)
[06:59:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Don't jumble Wanted Categories into Wanted Pages anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18273  (10jidanni)
[07:27:30] <Bloodrayne>	hi hi
[07:28:10] <OverlordQ>	hi
[07:29:59] <Bloodrayne>	can I ask for advice on using wikimedia markup's?
[07:30:36] <werdna>	no, you may only ask if you may ask for advice.
[07:30:54] <Bloodrayne>	lol
[07:31:08] <Bloodrayne>	must i rephrase my question?
[07:32:55] <OverlordQ>	!ask
[07:32:55] --mwbot--	Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[07:33:13] <Bloodrayne>	LOL
[07:33:15] <Bloodrayne>	okay
[07:33:51] <Bloodrayne>	how do I get a colour texting in a wikimedia - I"ve been asked by the boss to highlight text in red if I"m not sure what I am suppose to write about... 
[07:34:04] <Duesentrieb>	Bloodrayne: use html syntax
[07:34:14] <Bloodrayne>	I have and it doesn't work
[07:34:14] <Duesentrieb>	span with a style attriob will do.
[07:34:22] <Duesentrieb>	if you need it often, set up a template#
[07:34:30] <Duesentrieb>	if it doesn't work, you are doing it wrong :)
[07:34:44] <Duesentrieb>	please provide a link, or post the wikitext in a pastebin
[07:34:59] <Bloodrayne>	well, I am new to Wiki and been offered a 3 month contract so am really learning as much as I can - Technical Writer and KnowledgeBase Administrator 
[07:35:31] <Bloodrayne>	I can't provide a link - the wiki is in a private company so it won't be possible... unless you can show me how to do it in a sandbox
[07:36:11] <Duesentrieb>	can you copy&paste the text to a public wiki?
[07:36:24] <Bloodrayne>	that's why I am here
[07:36:50] <Bloodrayne>	Due, try to understand taht the information I am doing is private and I cannot share it with other people. it is only for the company I work for
[07:37:07] <Duesentrieb>	so make a minimal demo of what is not working
[07:37:19] <Duesentrieb>	make a page with "bla bla bla" on it, and the formatting. check if it works. 
[07:37:24] <Duesentrieb>	if it doesn't, coipy&paste to http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox23
[07:37:24] <Bloodrayne>	you told me to use HTML attributes?
[07:37:28] <Duesentrieb>	yep.
[07:37:48] <Duesentrieb>	bla <span style="color:red">bla</span> bla
[07:37:54] <kraut>	moin
[07:38:47] <Bloodrayne>	well your attributes are different to mine - i use the old coding :S
[07:39:10] <Bloodrayne>	so that command will give me the selection I want to turn red instead of black?
[07:40:30] <Bloodrayne>	thank you, Duesentrieb, you solved my problem :D
[07:40:50] <Duesentrieb>	Bloodrayne: do make temples though
[07:40:53] <Duesentrieb>	!templates
[07:40:53] --mwbot--	For more information about templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>. The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:ParserFunctions> and enabling HTML Tidy <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>.
[07:41:09] <Duesentrieb>	and... what "old coding" would that be?
[07:41:14] <Bloodrayne>	whoa one thing at a time...
[07:41:21] <Duesentrieb>	even <font color="red"> should work :P
[07:41:31] <Bloodrayne>	I did that and it doesn't
[07:41:53] <Bloodrayne>	<font colour="#FF0000">Blah blah</f>
[07:41:54] <antischocke>	hello everybody, do someone know, how i can hide topics for unregistered users? i only know how i can protect them for edit, but i don't know how to hide them
[07:42:53] <Duesentrieb>	Brownout: it's color, not colour - html is not british :)
[07:43:00] <Duesentrieb>	err, that's for Bloodrayne
[07:43:00] <Splarka>	all pages or just some?
[07:43:20] <Splarka>	Bloodrayne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ExpandTemplates?input=%3Cfont+color%3D%22%23FF0000%22%3EBlah+blah%3C%2Ffont%3E
[07:43:21] <Duesentrieb>	Bloodrayne: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox23 <-- wors fine. just use american spelling :)
[07:43:24] <Splarka>	with as dues says, proper color
[07:43:34] <Splarka>	Duesentrieb: expandtemplates rocks for short examples
[07:43:38] <antischocke>	only some pages
[07:43:40] <Bloodrayne>	LOL
[07:43:41] <Bloodrayne>	thanks
[07:43:46] <Duesentrieb>	Splarka: true :)
[07:43:48] <Splarka>	!morbo | antischocke
[07:43:48] --mwbot--	antischocke: http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/330/morbomediawikiaf9.jpg
[07:43:50] <Bloodrayne>	I haven't done html coding for ages
[07:44:47] <Splarka>	if you want to know why, see !secrets !access and !worstcase
[07:44:57] <Splarka>	oh, and !cms
[07:45:19] <Splarka>	but if you don't care about security, or your job doesn't depend on it, there is Lockdown
[07:45:31] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Rollback doesn't update links tables appropriately - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18267  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[07:45:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) rollback of page blanking does not restore pagelinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17154  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[07:45:51] <antischocke>	ok thanks
[07:48:09] <Bloodrayne>	Duesentrieb: The <font color="FF0000"> Doesn't work on this one :S... <span style etc.. actually works
[07:48:56] <Duesentrieb>	Bloodrayne: the color spec is missing the #
[07:49:05] <Duesentrieb>	<font color="#FF0000"> should work
[07:49:17] <Duesentrieb>	or just use "red" 
[07:49:29] <werdna>	ew
[07:49:34] <werdna>	NO NO NO NON NO
[07:49:41] <Bloodrayne>	O.o
[07:49:43] <Bloodrayne>	wait
[07:49:46] <werdna>	<span style="color: #ff0000">
[07:49:51] <flyingparchment>	#ff0000 is a really nasty red
[07:50:19] <Bloodrayne>	LOL flyingparchment
[07:50:37] <Bloodrayne>	it's the reason why the boss said to use it so he can sort out what I cant sort out
[07:51:42] <Splarka>	flyingparchment, "a" nasty red?
[07:51:52] <Splarka>	<div style="background-color:red;padding:15px;width;100px;height:100px;float:left;"><div style="background-color:#ff0000;padding:15px;"></div></div>
[07:51:59] <Splarka>	what rgb value "red" for you?
[07:55:12] <flyingparchment>	Splarka: #cc5555 is okay
[07:56:12] <Splarka>	I mean what does your browser use for 'red' ?
[07:56:40] <Bloodrayne>	you talking to me, Sparkla?
[07:56:48] <Splarka>	nope
[07:56:52] <Bloodrayne>	okay
[07:57:45] <Splarka>	#cc5555 looks awful as a background color on my LCD, and hard to read as text on a white background
[07:58:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) {{SERVER}}/ renders as localhost, but only when / is appened - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18274 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (jidanni)
[07:59:17] <Bloodrayne>	OMG a red background with white text - horror of all horrors, my poor virgin eyes :S
[08:01:23] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) DISPLAYTITLE should allow Arabic and Persian harakats - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16899  +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[08:03:22] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49062 10/branches/preferences-work/phase3/includes/User.php: Fix glaring fatal
[08:10:14] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) remove from Special:WantedFiles files from Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18275 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (abutko)
[08:12:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) remove Special:WantedFiles files from Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18275  summary (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[08:19:41] <flyingparchment>	Splarka: background?  the conversation was about foreground, no?
[08:20:03] <Splarka>	saw my 'and'?
[08:20:14] <Splarka>	#cc5555 looks awful as a background color on my LCD, ------ and hard to read as text on a white background
[08:20:41] <Splarka>	Jidanni: 317 total bugs, 69 "NEW/ASSIGNED/REOPENED" -- resolved bugs: 81 "FIXED", 61 "INVALID", 42 "WONTFIX", 6 "LATER", 34 "DUPLICATE", 24 "WORKSFORME" (33% success rate on resolved bugs)
[08:20:53] *Splarka 	facepalms
[08:21:04] <Bloodrayne>	lol
[08:34:14] <flyingparchment>	Splarka: your monitor must suck, it's easy to read here
[08:35:15] <werdna>	Splarka: jidanni has opened 317 bugs?
[08:35:18] <werdna>	holy shit
[08:37:35] <Splarka>	flyingparchment: so buy me a good one
[08:38:03] <Splarka>	werdna: I know, right! and 2/3rds are bad so far
[08:48:12] <antischocke>	can someone help me again? after i create groups and set rights for them, the size of the font is small, expample, before i set the rights: "Navigation", after i set rights "navigation". Have anyone an idea?
[09:23:12] <antischocke>	 can someone help me again? after i create groups and set rights for them, the size of the font is small, expample, before i set the rights: "Navigation", after i set rights "navigation". Has anyone an idea?
[09:28:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Abuse filter log seems always empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18276 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[09:41:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Message Abusefilter-diff-version needs date/time separated, and GENDER support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18277 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[10:36:55] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  +comment (10MacGyverMagic)
[10:40:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AbuseFilter string manipulation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18252  (10MacGyverMagic)
[10:42:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:AbuseFilter/test needs to specify format for entering the timeframe - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17918  +comment (10MacGyverMagic)
[10:50:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Expiry time option, on filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18246  +comment (10MacGyverMagic)
[11:09:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Expiry time option, on filters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18246  +comment (10FT2.wiki)
[11:18:08] <CIA-78>	03kim * r49063 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/installfiles/extensions/LiquidThreads.install/ (download.sh setup.sh): Liquidthreads, moved mysql stuff to setup.sh
[11:40:33] <werdna>	domas: nice blog post
[11:40:45] <domas>	which one?
[11:40:51] <werdna>	about mac os x
[11:45:42] <DotAWiki|Gara>	I have some weird behaviour since updating MediaWiki to 1.14a as seen here: http://www.dotawiki.de/index.php?title=DotAWiki:Sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1
[11:45:57] <DotAWiki|Gara>	The editbuttons appear twice
[11:46:21] <DotAWiki|Gara>	the skin is built off of monobook and the same weird bug happens with monobook as well
[11:51:33] <Splarka>	DotAWiki|Gara: looks like your wikibits.js maybe didn't get updated
[11:51:55] <Splarka>	the button-creation code was moved from wikibits.js to edit.js but in your case it is both in wikbits.js and in edit.js
[11:52:58] <DotAWiki|Gara>	So basically, all i need to do is checkout the repo into my installation again?
[11:53:42] <Splarka>	that might be excessive, this was just a glancy-guess
[11:55:10] <Splarka>	you might just try copying http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/phase3/skins/common/wikibits.js?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain over your wikibits.js
[11:55:24] <Splarka>	but if it didn't overwrite it perhaps it was edited before
[11:55:38] <Splarka>	what version did you update from?
[11:55:46] <DotAWiki|Gara>	nope, I'm pretty sure I didn't edit any of the .jses. 1.11
[11:57:09] <Splarka>	yep, your wikibits.js matches the 1.11
[11:58:06] <CIA-78>	03kim * r49064 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 
[11:58:06] <CIA-78>	* Improved error reporting from Combined_Installer
[11:58:06] <CIA-78>	* Above found a bug in Scripted_Installer (fixed)
[11:58:06] <CIA-78>	* Also small update to LiquidThreads installer (more reliable)
[12:03:10] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Strict warnings in Extension:GoogleMaps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18278 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[12:07:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add Extension:GoogleMaps to Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18279 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[12:10:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Extension:GoogleMaps to Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18279  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[12:13:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Name of NS 100 ("Portal") appears in lower case in tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18280 minor; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (angus)
[12:14:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) eswiki: Name of NS 100 ("Portal") appears in lower case in tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18280  summary (10angus)
[12:17:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SQL Errors on set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18261  (10markus)
[12:18:55] <DotAWiki|Gara>	Splarka:thanks for the help, udating the wikibits.js did the trick :)
[12:20:11] <Atyndall>	Hi guys, quick question, is the information pertaining to cookies and cookie names still accurate in mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login?
[12:21:57] <Atyndall>	No one active?
[12:22:12] <Atyndall>	Hello nootrope 
[12:39:55] <DotAWiki|Gara>	Is it possible to enter templates as custom editbuttons using the Mediawiki:common.js?
[12:48:55] <CIA-78>	03kim * r49065 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/combined_installer.py: Fix error in error handeling in combined_installer
[12:49:34] <Atyndall>	Is anyone who can help me active?
[12:49:46] <werdna>	!ask
[12:49:46] --mwbot--	Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[12:50:14] <Atyndall>	*breathes deeply*
[12:50:14] <Atyndall>	Hi guys, quick question, is the information pertaining to cookies and cookie names still accurate in mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login?
[12:50:48] <CIA-78>	03kim * r49066 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/ (combined_installer.py installation_system.py): And some more tpyos and bugs
[12:51:07] <Atyndall>	Sigh
[12:51:24] <werdna>	it looks right at a first glance
[12:51:27] <werdna>	except the _...
[12:51:45] <Atyndall>	werdan: Hmm?
[12:52:08] <werdna>	except that looking at the actual cookies I have it seems to be accurate
[12:53:08] <Atyndall>	Ok, thanks. Must be some problem with my code, because I am passing those cookies to the server, and it still treats my bot as an anon.
[12:55:44] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49067 10/branches/preferences-work/phase3/includes/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Fix tag filtering by adding a FORCE INDEX to the relevant queries
[12:56:32] <werdna>	domas: \o/
[12:57:03] <domas>	wrong branch?
[12:57:16] <werdna>	bah
[12:57:22] *werdna 	stabs domas for noticing
[12:57:42] <domas>	=)
[12:59:16] <werdna>	andrew-macbook:wm-svn andrew$ svn switch svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk
[12:59:33] *werdna 	gets ready to paste the diff from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49067 into patch -p3
[12:59:37] <werdna>	man I love that trick
[12:59:48] <werdna>	it's much faster than merge -c
[13:00:15] <kim__>	patch ftw?
[13:00:30] <kim__>	why is it faster?
[13:01:04] <werdna>	latency
[13:01:16] <werdna>	I'm in Australia, 300ms away from the svn server
[13:01:18] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49068 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Fix tag filtering by adding a FORCE INDEX to the relevant queries
[13:01:22] <werdna>	svn is a *very* latency-bound protocol
[13:03:09] <werdna>	domas: NOW it's fixed :))
[13:09:14] <Simetrical>	No longer using git svn?
[13:09:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Stopping media clips - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18281 normal; Normal; Cortado: User interface; (manishsmail)
[13:10:25] <werdna>	Simetrical: I found that I didn't miss it when I got my mac, so I didn't bother installing it
[13:11:02] <werdna>	of course that's one benefit, but for my typical use case git-svn is slower because of the time it takes to do updates.
[13:11:03] <Simetrical>	Mm.
[13:11:15] <Simetrical>	Yes, the updates are really slow.
[13:11:21] <Simetrical>	Of course the git svn devs just blame svn.
[13:11:27] <werdna>	so I'm willing to live with slower diffs on the command-line, as I can pull them straight from CodeReview.
[13:11:42] <werdna>	Even slower for me because I'm in Australia.
[13:11:46] <CIA-78>	03jojo * r49069 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (7 files in 2 dirs): use existing popup gadget to provide a way to add/remove articles linked from the current article
[13:11:57] <Simetrical>	I sometimes find myself doing stuff like git log | grep jidanni that would be incredibly painful on svn.
[13:12:18] <werdna>	I'm still using git for my own projects, like my website
[13:12:19] <Simetrical>	Also git stash.
[13:12:24] <AlexSm>	werdna: is this going to work later or am I missing something?
[13:12:26] <AlexSm>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=logevents&letype=abusefilter
[13:12:28] <Simetrical>	I use git stash a lot.
[13:12:55] <Simetrical>	I've used git bisect to track down parser test regressions, too.
[13:13:37] <Simetrical>	!r 46883
[13:13:37] --mwbot--	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=46883
[13:13:40] <werdna>	I have my own home-grown version of git stash :))
[13:13:45] <Simetrical>	That should give CodeReview links.
[13:13:54] <Simetrical>	werdna, reinventing the wheel, then?  :)
[13:13:58] <Simetrical>	I bet it's not as polished.
[13:13:58] <werdna>	!r raw
[13:13:58] --mwbot--	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=raw
[13:14:05] <Simetrical>	!r rawr
[13:14:05] --mwbot--	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=rawr
[13:14:05] <werdna>	Simetrical: no, of course not
[13:14:15] <Simetrical>	Anyway, the time to fetch really does stink.
[13:14:15] <werdna>	I just type 'patch-save <name>'
[13:14:22] <werdna>	and it gets rsync'd to my website, as a bonus
[13:14:24] <Simetrical>	I wish that could be improved.
[13:14:33] <Simetrical>	Or, better yet, we should just switch to git.  :)
[13:14:45] <kim__>	would it be helpful to folks if the mediawiki repository was switched to git?
[13:14:46] <werdna>	or any DCVS, I'm not fussed.
[13:14:48] <kim__>	jinx!
[13:14:57] <Simetrical>	I've tried git and hg, and prefer git.
[13:15:00] <Simetrical>	Haven't tried bzr.
[13:15:02] <werdna>	I think Brion's playing with hg for a side-project
[13:15:19] <Simetrical>	hg has the best Windows support, AFAIK, but git now has an okay GUI for Windows, I've heard.
[13:15:25] <Simetrical>	Haven't tried it lately, though.
[13:15:27] <kim__>	gui schmui
[13:15:41] <kim__>	make it work in a scripted environment O:-)
[13:15:43] <Simetrical>	That's what I think, but those crazy Window users get upset if they have to use a command line.
[13:15:48] <werdna>	!r is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/`e1
[13:15:48] --mwbot--	Keyword "r" already exists. Use "!r del" to remove it.
[13:15:52] <werdna>	!r del
[13:15:52] --mwbot--	Successfully removed keyword: r
[13:15:53] <werdna>	!r is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/`e1
[13:15:53] --mwbot--	Successfully added keyword: r
[13:15:56] *Simetrical 	used TortoiseSVN when he was on Windows, admittedly
[13:15:58] <werdna>	!r 48668
[13:15:58] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/48668
[13:16:07] <Simetrical>	werdna, I didn't know that worked.
[13:16:15] <werdna>	yes it did
[13:16:16] <werdna>	look
[13:16:25] <Simetrical>	I didn't know that, is what I said.
[13:16:27] <Simetrical>	Now I do, clearly.
[13:16:30] <werdna>	oh right
[13:16:39] <werdna>	I misread that as "I don't know that worked" or something
[13:16:43] <Simetrical>	("`e1"?  Why not "$1"?  Maybe too much chance for conflicts . . .)
[13:16:47] <Simetrical>	That sentence doesn't parse.
[13:17:21] <werdna>	in the same sense as "I don't know that's true"
[13:17:38] <Simetrical>	Now, why doesn't parserTests.php --compare tell you what revision the last success was, instead of the date?
[13:17:56] <kim__>	are either of you going to be in berlin at the end of the week?
[13:18:07] <werdna>	afraid not
[13:18:11] <werdna>	I have a family thing on :(
[13:18:17] <kim__>	I've got this one GerardM sitting next to me
[13:18:18] <Simetrical>	Hmm, I think it would have to be "I don't know that that worked".  But usually you can elide "that" in that scenario.
[13:18:21] <kim__>	I'm not going to berlin neither
[13:18:27] <kim__>	but I can send my trained attack-dog ;-)
[13:18:28] <Simetrical>	kim__, I'm not going there, I'm allergic to travel.
[13:18:31] <Simetrical>	:)
[13:18:48] <Simetrical>	I think the last time I left New York/New Jersey was about two years ago.
[13:18:52] <Simetrical>	Hmm, maybe it was one.
[13:18:53] <werdna>	something to do with his background.
[13:18:59] <Simetrical>	When I spent three weeks in Berkeley.
[13:19:03] <GerardM->	Kim will be silent now ... guess who is at his throat ..
[13:19:10] <Simetrical>	I've only left the US once in my life.  :)
[13:19:13] <kim__>	Down boy, DOWN!
[13:19:21] <GerardM->	grrrr\
[13:19:34] <werdna>	I've left the US more often than Simetrical, and I don't even live there.
[13:19:42] <GerardM->	my bark is as bad as my bite
[13:19:45] <kim__>	Now that you mention it, same here
[13:19:49] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Collection Extension should have option to add all pages linked to from a page. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17386  +comment (10support)
[13:20:02] <kim__>	Homeland security kinda requires that you leave as often as you enter ;-)
[13:20:09] <werdna>	right
[13:20:43] <werdna>	As in, I've visited the US more often than he's left it.
[13:20:57] <kim__>	:-P
[13:21:13] *werdna 	caresses his two passports
[13:21:25] <kim__>	You have more passports than I do!
[13:21:30] <werdna>	:))
[13:21:31] <kim__>	you must travel a lot :-P
[13:21:40] <werdna>	well these are my two current passports
[13:21:40] <Simetrical>	My sister has two passports too.
[13:21:47] <werdna>	I have another 3 or 4 expired ones.
[13:21:47] <Simetrical>	You're a dual citizen?
[13:21:50] <werdna>	yes
[13:21:51] <kim__>	Simetrical, how come she does and I dont?
[13:21:54] <svip>	Strange, MediaWiki is not putting title on working internal links.
[13:21:56] <kim__>	and you don't , sorry
[13:21:57] <werdna>	Place of birth: CALIFORNIA, USA
[13:21:59] <svip>	What's up with that?
[13:22:10] <kim__>	(My sister also has 2 passports ^^;;)
[13:22:10] <werdna>	svip: example?
[13:22:16] <svip>	http://theinfosphere.org/Walter_Koenig
[13:22:16] <Simetrical>	kim__, because I'm only an American citizen, she's a dual American-Israeli citizen.
[13:22:21] <kim__>	Simetrical, Ah!
[13:22:27] <kim__>	werdna, you're .us, .au?
[13:22:31] <werdna>	yes
[13:22:34] <svip>	Hover over any of the links, werdna, except the external one, werdna.
[13:22:36] <kim__>	my sis is .nl, .nz
[13:22:39] <werdna>	born in California to Australian parents.
[13:22:47] <svip>	Uhm, redundancy...
[13:22:52] <kim__>	I'm just .nl, my parents forgot to request a .nz :-(
[13:22:57] <Simetrical>	I could become an Israeli citizen, but then I'd have to serve in the IDF.  I don't have any objections to that in principle, but I have other things I'm doing with my life right now, like getting a Ph.D.
[13:23:03] <werdna>	svip: WFM
[13:23:11] <svip>	Come again?
[13:23:13] <werdna>	Simetrical: fair enough.
[13:23:18] <werdna>	svip: Works For Me
[13:23:26] <svip>	Really?
[13:23:29] <kim__>	Simetrical, good point
[13:23:30] <werdna>	yes
[13:23:31] *svip 	scratches head.
[13:23:46] <svip>	Must be Firefox then.
[13:24:02] <kim__>	Simetrical, and in the mean time you stay in the nyc area?
[13:24:05] <werdna>	I'm using FF3.1
[13:24:06] <Simetrical>	Yes.
[13:24:14] <Simetrical>	werdna, you mean 3.5?
[13:24:22] <svip>	I am using 3.2a1pre, werdna.
[13:24:24] <werdna>	Simetrical: don't you ever consider weekend or break trips out of the city?
[13:24:34] <werdna>	Simetrical: no, the beta I'm using is still called 3.1
[13:24:39] <werdna>	3.1b3, to be precise.
[13:24:53] <Simetrical>	werdna, no, I spend my weekends at my computer.
[13:24:58] <Simetrical>	Well, the non-Sabbath parts of them.
[13:25:10] <Simetrical>	What's 3.2 going to become, 3.6?
[13:25:18] <svip>	3.5, Simetrical.
[13:25:33] <werdna>	Simetrical: what if you have a break or something?
[13:25:44] <svip>	The nightly builds are just called 3.2, while the beta releases are called 3.1, Simetrical.
[13:25:52] <werdna>	spring break or whatever.
[13:26:29] <Simetrical>	werdna, I spend the time on my computer.  Maybe read some books.
[13:27:07] <Simetrical>	And in the case of spring break, at CUNY that's rigged to fall on Passover, so there are other things I'm doing.
[13:27:15] <Simetrical>	I don't see any appeal in travel, really.
[13:27:20] <Simetrical>	I don't go outside anyway.
[13:27:53] <Simetrical>	When I went to Berkeley, the major difference was my computer was a Windows box where I wasn't even admin.
[13:27:54] <svip>	How can you disprove of that, werdna?
[13:28:02] <kim__>	Simetrical, you know, go things, meet places, and do people?
[13:28:04] <werdna>	svip: disprove?
[13:28:11] <svip>	Of Simetrical being home all the time.
[13:28:14] <svip>	I totally approve.
[13:28:16] <kim__>	go places, meet things and do people works better ;-)
[13:28:34] <kim__>	svip, give him an eee-pc ... as long as he's online and coding, what do we care where he is?
[13:28:38] <svip>	;-; Leave Simetrical alone!
[13:28:39] <werdna>	I don't necessarily disapprove.
[13:28:42] <kim__>	(s)he
[13:28:51] <Simetrical>	he
[13:28:56] <kim__>	he/she/it/other even... this is wikimedia ;-)
[13:28:58] <kim__>	noted
[13:29:02] <kim__>	he it is
[13:29:07] <Simetrical>	"he" is pretty safe in #mediawiki.
[13:29:09] <werdna>	I just think he's missing out, but I guess he's just made up a bit differently to me.
[13:29:20] <kim__>	Simetrical, gender bias eg?
[13:29:23] <kim__>	eh?
[13:29:23] <werdna>	We have had two females ever work on MediaWiki.
[13:29:31] <Simetrical>	kim__, as usual among programmers.
[13:29:34] <svip>	So it is pretty safe.
[13:29:38] <Simetrical>	werdna, how are you counting River and Ariel?
[13:29:48] <werdna>	Not counting River and Ariel for now.
[13:29:51] <kim__>	Simetrical, other?
[13:29:57] <werdna>	I'm thinking of elian and purodha.
[13:30:04] <kim__>	elian can code too?
[13:30:17] <kim__>	elian++
[13:30:18] <werdna>	purodha is the new UI designer employed by the usability project
[13:30:27] <Simetrical>	Ah, didn't know she was female.
[13:30:43] <kim__>	wasn't there another naoko?
[13:30:43] <Simetrical>	Wasn't there a henna, way back before our time?  Or some name like tha.
[13:30:44] <Simetrical>	that.
[13:30:49] <kim__>	And henna
[13:30:49] <Simetrical>	Naoko doesn't do coding, does she?
[13:30:53] <Simetrical>	Oh, another one.
[13:30:55] <Simetrical>	Dunno.
[13:30:59] <kim__>	Henna is utterly cool :-)
[13:31:05] <kim__>	belgian lady, works in .nl now
[13:31:43] <werdna>	Naoko is a project manager.
[13:31:59] <werdna>	I THINK it's purodha
[13:32:28] <werdna>	17:22 -!- parutron [n=paru@75.101.56.124] has joined #XXX
[13:32:30] <werdna>	parutron
[13:32:33] <werdna>	purodha is somebody else
[13:32:39] <werdna>	I always confuse them
[13:32:48] <Simetrical>	Sekrit channel name!
[13:32:57] <werdna>	yes, sekrit channel name :P
[13:33:43] <Simetrical>	Too much secrecy in Wikimedia.  :(
[13:34:08] <werdna>	that particular channel is almost empty
[13:34:10] <GerardM->	Purodha ? I am surprised
[13:34:24] <Simetrical>	I think he said he got purodha confused with someone.
[13:34:25] <GerardM->	Parutron
[13:34:50] <werdna>	but there's another sysadmin channel which is where a lot of the high-level ops and some software discussion takes place -- it would be nice if it were in public, it's more active than #wikimedia-tech
[13:35:07] <Simetrical>	Yeah, I recently learned of that.
[13:35:17] <Simetrical>	If you don't want annoying spam, you could set it +m.
[13:35:25] <Simetrical>	Is there anything said there that's actually secret?
[13:35:30] <flyingparchment>	yes, a lot
[13:35:31] <werdna>	Occasionally
[13:35:33] *henna 	blinks
[13:35:35] <Simetrical>	Oh well.
[13:35:38] <henna>	are people talking about me? :)
[13:35:48] <werdna>	There's also a lot which is not secret, but private.
[13:36:02] <werdna>	Staff reporting progress to brion, gentle admonishments, that kind of thing.
[13:36:36] <werdna>	Not the kind of thing that we want to handle in public, but not because it's secret.
[13:36:45] <Simetrical>	C'est la vie.
[13:37:12] <werdna>	hey henna 
[13:37:37] <werdna>	henna: we were discussing female mediawiki developers, since there have been only two or three (trans aside) in mediawiki history
[13:37:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restore revision numbers in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18242  (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[13:39:32] <Simetrical>	The only place I've seen where there seem to be close to as many female programmers as male is Google.
[13:39:55] <werdna>	I met a few ladies at tech events in sf, like at the internet archive.
[13:40:16] <werdna>	user experience is also a hot area for females.
[13:41:29] <Simetrical>	"few" is the operative term there, though.
[13:41:40] <henna>	yea, jsut read the backlog
[13:41:48] <werdna>	well, it was a third or a half or so at the internet archive.
[13:41:50] <CIA-78>	03jojo * r49070 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/collection/portlet.js: fix
[13:41:51] <henna>	I can tell stories on why :)
[13:42:16] <werdna>	of course, in fundraising at wikimedia it's the opposite.
[13:42:19] <henna>	but if you're really interested I can point you to a few places online which have some explanations
[13:42:34] <werdna>	We have Anya, Sara, Rebecca, and Rand
[13:42:53] <werdna>	henna: thank you, but I think the reasons are well-documented and well-known.
[13:43:12] <henna>	werdna: good :)
[13:43:53] <henna>	(this said, wikimedia/mediawiki/...  is not a place I complain about in general)
[13:43:59] <henna>	(in that regards)
[13:44:00] <henna>	-s
[13:44:06] *werdna 	shrugs.
[13:46:09] *kim__ 	waves to henna
[13:46:29] <kim__>	henna, did you mention stories?
[13:47:25] <CIA-78>	03jojo * r49071 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: fix casing
[13:49:18] <henna>	kim__: just not right now 
[13:49:35] <henna>	(I am working :))
[13:52:50] <kim__>	Kay! :-)
[13:52:53] <kim__>	going to berlin?
[13:52:55] <henna>	yes
[13:53:46] <kim__>	Cool
[13:54:01] <kim__>	Have fun, tell people about usability there! :-)
[13:55:45] <henna>	NO, I've been doing that at work all week!
[13:56:45] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) eswiki: Name of NS 100 ("Portal") appears in lower case in tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18280  +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[14:00:18] <my007ms>	i need to have one page in my wiki in arabic 
[14:00:29] <my007ms>	how i can change every thing to be form right to left 
[14:00:30] <my007ms>	?
[14:02:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Parser Cache's {{SERVER}} becomes "localhost" with maintenance scripts - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18274  (10jidanni)
[14:03:00] <CIA-78>	03jojo * r49072 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/collection/popup.js: fixes
[14:04:16] <kim__>	henna, poor you ^^;;
[14:16:49] <CIA-78>	03simetrical * r49073 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/citeParserTests.txt: Fix parser test broken by r49020
[14:17:34] <Simetrical>	Yay git bisect.
[14:22:31] <CIA-78>	03jojo * r49074 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/collection/popup.js: make enabling/disabling more robust
[14:25:44] <xnyx>	heya folks...
[14:26:26] <xnyx>	I just installed mediawiki and dont have a lot of time at the moment to run through the docs, would someone mind quickly telling me or pointing at the right doc to disable new user signups ?
[14:26:55] <CIA-78>	03simetrical * r49075 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
[14:26:55] <CIA-78>	Don't add empty title attributes to anchor links
[14:26:55] <CIA-78>	All parser tests updated.
[14:27:20] <Nikerabbit>	hello
[14:27:44] <xnyx>	ahh... found what i was looking for, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_account_creation  Cheers :)
[14:45:25] <CIA-78>	03raymond * r49076 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:45:25] <CIA-78>	Fix regression from r49061: Restore sequence of paramters.
[14:45:25] <CIA-78>	Do not shift parameters with different content. This breaks every customization in the local MediaWiki namespace.
[14:46:25] <werdna>	!r 490202
[14:46:25] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/490202
[14:46:27] <werdna>	!r 49020
[14:46:27] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49020
[14:46:40] <my007ms>	i need to have one page in my wiki in arabic 
[14:46:57] <my007ms>	how i can change the text direction to be form right to left 
[14:47:16] <my007ms>	only in one page 
[14:47:37] <werdna>	……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
[14:48:29] <Simetrical>	werdna, . . .
[14:48:47] <werdna>	…
[14:48:52] <Simetrical>	my007ms, I don't think it's possible by default.
[14:48:53] <MrZ-man>	werdna: …
[14:49:42] *werdna 	despairs at http://➡.ws/빟䍖
[14:50:01] <my007ms>	Simetrical so how wikipedia do this ?
[14:50:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The revision size is not available for old revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12188   +need-review +patch (10roan.kattouw)
[14:50:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Abuse filter log seems always empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18276  (10Andrew)
[14:50:51] <werdna>	my007ms: it's not doable per-page
[14:51:08] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) AbuseFilter schemas for PostgreSQL are out of date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18076  (10Andrew)
[14:51:36] <Simetrical>	my007ms, it does?
[14:51:50] <henna>	sry, wrong window
[14:51:56] <Simetrical>	werdna, wow, *that's* a short URL.
[14:52:18] <MrZ-man>	you could probably use JavaScript to load the rtl CSS
[14:52:38] <werdna>	Simetrical: tinyarro.ws
[14:53:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) $1 in MediaWiki:regexblock-view-time needs date, and time, separated. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18282 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: RegexBlock; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[14:53:46] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Dhani Harrison links to download - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18265  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:54:21] <werdna>	Simetrical: I have a shorter URL for my website
[14:54:28] <werdna>	http://✏.ws
[14:55:32] <werdna>	I thought a pencil was appropriate as I work on wikis :)
[14:55:50] <CIA-78>	03purodha * r49077 10/trunk/extensions/regexBlock/ (SpecialRegexBlock.php regexBlock.i18n.php): (Bug 18282) additional parameters $2, $3 = date, time to MediaWiki:regexblock-view-time.
[14:56:59] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) $1 in MediaWiki:regexblock-view-time needs date, and time, separated. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18282  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[14:57:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow blocking of global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15294  (10Andrew)
[14:57:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Red Links for Userpage/Talk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18270  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[14:57:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Last 10 editors" function fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18078  (10Andrew)
[14:58:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding categories via CSS violates accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15637  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[15:01:07] <Simetrical>	werdna, unfortunately it's illegible and impossible for any normal person to type.
[15:01:13] <Simetrical>	But I admit, it is really cool.
[15:01:18] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Parser Cache's {{SERVER}} becomes "localhost" with maintenance scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18274  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[15:03:12] *domas 	giggles
[15:03:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Image redirects from the shared repo don't show "redirected from" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14117  (10rene.kijewski)
[15:03:36] <domas>	"don't use {{SERVER}}?" ;-)
[15:06:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Abuse filter log seems always empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18276  (10roan.kattouw)
[15:06:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Schema change rotation script (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16012  (10roan.kattouw)
[15:08:41] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Parser Cache's {{SERVER}} becomes "localhost" with maintenance scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18274  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[15:10:14] <kim__>	Hmm, I've got parser-testing, pywikipedia based extension testing... does-it-work testing, diffs for mediawiki and database (isolation level testing, don't ask ;-)...
[15:10:23] <kim__>	what other kinds of tests can I do?
[15:10:26] *kim__ 	scratches head
[15:10:30] <kim__>	any ideas
[15:10:31] <kim__>	?
[15:11:40] <MrZ-man>	kim__: site operator competency testing?
[15:11:51] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Image redirects from the shared repo don't show "redirected from" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14117  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[15:13:39] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49078 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Crackdown on filter evaluation by users unable to modify filters. This is a DoS vector which I thought I'd already plugged.
[15:14:13] <werdna>	!r 49078
[15:14:13] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49078
[15:25:04] <CIA-78>	03catrope * r49079 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/ApiQueryAbuseLog.php: AbuseFilter: Update API module for r49057
[15:26:24] <kim__>	MrZ-man, <grin> Yes. that would catch many PEBKAC errors
[15:26:49] <MrZ-man>	:)
[15:26:58] <kim__>	MrZ-man, more seriously, I can't escape the feeling that I'm not being very comprehensive yet...
[15:27:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Image redirects from the shared repo don't show "redirected from" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14117  (10rene.kijewski)
[15:27:49] <MrZ-man>	kim__: a general regression testing framework for things other than the parser would be nice
[15:28:13] <MrZ-man>	brion would probably love you forever
[15:28:19] <RoanKattouw>	hehe
[15:28:54] <kim__>	MrZ-man, I've got the framework
[15:28:59] <kim__>	MrZ-man, But nothing to put in it
[15:29:08] <kim__>	well, something to put in it, but not enough
[15:29:31] <MrZ-man>	I considered doing something for the API once, but didn't have the time
[15:29:43] <RoanKattouw>	AmiDaniel started a fuzztester for the API once
[15:29:51] <RoanKattouw>	I believe that code is still lying around somewhere in SVN
[15:29:56] <kim__>	fuzztester, that's something ...
[15:30:06] <kim__>	I've got 360 extensions
[15:30:16] <kim__>	360+
[15:30:51] <kim__>	and I can install each and test it at say a rate of 1 per minute (if we take into account sundry strange tests we'd like to perform)
[15:31:25] <kim__>	and I can install different tags and/or revisions versus diverse mediawiki versions (for people who would like to know if they need to upgrade already ;-) )
[15:31:30] <kim__>	but like, what do I test? ;-)
[15:31:41] <RoanKattouw>	kim__: maintenance/fuzz-tester.php
[15:31:46] <kim__>	I can test whether the wiki doesn't crash ;-)
[15:31:58] <kim__>	fuzz-tester sounds good. I'll add it to my TODO list ;-)
[15:32:03] <kim__>	anything else I can add to TODO?
[15:32:14] <RoanKattouw>	That's AmiDaniel's work, looks like it might be a good start for you to work with
[15:32:17] <MrZ-man>	I think there's some old bits of testing framework elsewhere too
[15:32:40] <kim__>	Also maybe something functional-ish?
[15:32:46] <kim__>	Anything I can harness the devs for?
[15:32:55] <kim__>	(that's 2 different Ideas)
[15:33:01] <kim__>	MrZ-man, If you have any ideas, that'd be nice :-)
[15:33:15] <MrZ-man>	phase3/tests/ and phase3/t/ I think
[15:33:19] <kim__>	Has everyone who has written parser extensions also written parsertests?
[15:33:24] <kim__>	MrZ-man, hmmm!
[15:33:31] <kim__>	how about for extensions?
[15:33:31] <MrZ-man>	looks pretty old
[15:36:38] <GerardM->	old .. it may need an update then
[15:36:38] <kim__>	no longer maintained?
[15:36:46] <kim__>	maayyyyybeee...
[15:36:47] <RoanKattouw>	kim__: I seriously doubt parser extensions have parser tests. I don't think there's even a framework for extensions to add tests, but I might be wrong on that
[15:36:51] <Simetrical>	tests/ and t/ were never really used.
[15:36:55] <Simetrical>	RoanKattouw, Cite uses them.
[15:37:04] <kim__>	RoanKattouw, they could just use the regular parser tester
[15:37:08] <Simetrical>	I don't think ParserFunctions does, but it should.
[15:37:09] <kim__>	a framework to add tests somewhere?
[15:37:18] <GerardM->	you may also want to learn about performance of specific actions
[15:37:22] <RoanKattouw>	fuzz-tester.php is pretty old too, and was never maintained; it wasn't even finished yet when AmiDaniel abandoned it
[15:37:25] <Simetrical>	Running maintenance/parserTests.php automatically runs the Cite tests for me.
[15:37:28] <kim__>	you mean timing tests, GerardM- ?
[15:37:34] <GerardM->	for instance
[15:37:43] <kim__>	RoanKattouw, why was it abandoned, would you know?
[15:37:47] <kim__>	Simetrical, interesting
[15:37:56] <kim__>	s/would you/do you/g
[15:38:02] <GerardM->	in a etest environement it should be easy to include timers
[15:38:15] <kim__>	well, I do have something like that
[15:38:21] <RoanKattouw>	kim__: He had a baby, took up all his time
[15:39:20] <CIA-78>	03daniel * r49080 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWord/src/main/php/ (wikiword.php wwutils.php): multi-lang stuff finished
[15:39:37] <kim__>	That's a good excuse!
[15:39:38] <kim__>	;-)
[15:40:05] <MrZ-man>	I think Cite and Poem both have parsertests
[15:42:07] <CIA-78>	03catrope * r49081 10/branches/querypage-work/: New branch for QueryPage rewrite
[15:43:03] <Simetrical>	Yay, maybe we can pass around less raw SQL.
[15:44:33] <CIA-78>	03catrope * r49082 10/branches/querypage-work/phase3/: Branch off querypage-work branch
[15:44:42] <RoanKattouw>	Simetrical: That's the idea; but of course I'm really doing it to make it API-friendly :)
[15:45:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Exhibit: Wrong HTML redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17446  (10dasch_87)
[15:45:53] <kim__>	yay API
[15:46:20] <kim__>	I probably should also test API stuff too, at least, if extensions are writing stuff to api too... which they just might.
[15:46:22] <kim__>	<sigh>
[15:46:26] <kim__>	so much work, so little time
[15:46:46] <CIA-78>	03catrope * r49083 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Pager.php: Update docs in Pager.php for join_conds
[15:47:16] *kim__ 	goes off to write down the problem and think real hard. 
[15:47:59] <kim__>	http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman#Quotations_about_Feynman
[15:48:12] <kim__>	(see the feynman problem solving algorithm, I wonder if that works for me too?)
[15:51:34] <RoanKattouw>	kim__: Some extensions add API modules, yes
[15:51:52] <RoanKattouw>	And AmiDaniel's fuzz-tester.php also has API testing facilities
[15:52:16] <Simetrical>	kim__, the bowling-ball quote is cool.
[15:52:35] <Simetrical>	It's like the professors who stick their hands into molten lead to illustrate the Leidenfrost effect.
[15:52:56] *RoanKattouw 	officially hates svn switch now
[15:53:12] <Simetrical>	RoanKattouw, use git svn!
[15:53:25] <RoanKattouw>	If you so much as have an unversioned file in includes/api, it'll switch everything except that dir, and when you switch back it'll just mess up your working cop
[15:53:27] <RoanKattouw>	y
[15:53:29] <Simetrical>	Not that I use branches anyway.
[15:53:32] <RoanKattouw>	Glad I saved a diff of my changes
[15:53:43] *Simetrical 	pimps git svn
[15:54:46] <Krinkle>	Hi
[15:54:52] <CIA-78>	03catrope * r49084 10/branches/querypage-work/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): querypage-work: Commit initial work
[15:55:13] <Krinkle>	I've got a Q about my MediaWiki installation. Anyone here available ?
[15:55:19] <RoanKattouw>	Sure, ask away
[15:55:34] <Krinkle>	OK. Let me get my details (have been waiting for it a few days :) )
[15:55:35] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49085 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRecentchanges.php: Removed unneeded NS_MAIN special case for index usage
[15:55:37] <Krinkle>	brb
[15:56:34] <Krinkle>	OK. I did a default MediaWIki install on a INstallatron-DirectAdmin server, and applied my custom "bookjive"-inspired template.
[15:56:37] <Krinkle>	http://macspot.oerknor.nl/wiki/Main_Page
[15:56:49] <Krinkle>	However, there seems to be a bug in the functions tabs on the top
[15:57:14] <Krinkle>	For example, if a page is not allwed to be edited, (not registerd, or semi-block) it still shows that link, but links to the same article. 
[15:57:21] <Krinkle>	And there are more of these annoying bugs.
[15:57:26] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49086 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRecentchangeslinked.php: Fixed fatal from r49068. Removed verbose formatting :)
[15:57:29] <Simetrical>	So fix your skin . . . ?
[15:57:29] <Krinkle>	How can I fix that ie. you know what's going on ?
[15:57:41] <RoanKattouw>	Krinkle: That's probably bookjive's fault
[15:57:42] <Krinkle>	it has been like this since begin.
[15:58:00] <Krinkle>	So I figured Roan, but they are not willing to update their skin, their Done with it.
[15:58:29] <Krinkle>	And I, some how experienced in web development, but total new to MediaWiki programming, have no idea what's going on.
[15:58:42] <Simetrical>	There's probably a file in the skins/ directory.
[15:58:45] <Krinkle>	( I do web programming in xhtml, css etc. )
[15:58:49] <Simetrical>	You'd have to look at that and fix it.
[15:58:53] <Simetrical>	XHTML and CSS are not web programming.
[15:58:53] <ialex>	RoanKattouw: why not making QueryPage extends SpecialPage? :)
[15:59:08] <Simetrical>	Web programming is stuff like PHP, Python, whatever, in a web context.
[15:59:19] <RoanKattouw>	ialex: Yeah, and get rid of all the wfBlahPage() crap too, that'd be nice
[15:59:23] <Krinkle>	I also do PHP, for that matter. But depends on the ocasion.
[15:59:29] <ialex>	RoanKattouw: exactely ;)
[15:59:29] <RoanKattouw>	Added to my TODO, not a big prio though
[15:59:41] <Krinkle>	Hang on guys, I'm loggin in now :)
[15:59:50] <Krinkle>	(into FTP)
[16:00:48] <Krinkle>	I do have some customizations applied (htacces w>wiki folder), and some others. But OK.
[16:00:49] <Krinkle>	I'm in.
[16:01:38] <Krinkle>	(fuction-top-bar issues were present from the begining, that's for sure)
[16:02:24] <Krinkle>	Im in the skins directory. I presume you ment "bookjive.php" by 'a file' ?
[16:04:25] <Simetrical>	Probably.
[16:04:28] <Simetrical>	I don't know, it's not my skin.
[16:05:10] <Krinkle>	Well, if you ment the config file that belongs to the skin then yes, that's the file.
[16:05:26] <Simetrical>	I honestly don't know.
[16:05:33] <CIA-78>	03dale * r49087 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/specials/MV_SpecialMediaSearch.php: fixed miro subscribe link
[16:05:34] <Simetrical>	I can't predict how someone else made up their skin.
[16:05:39] <Simetrical>	There's no really fixed MediaWiki skin format.
[16:05:45] <Simetrical>	It's basically just a PHP file, it could do anything.
[16:05:50] <Krinkle>	RaonKattouw: Could you motivate why to delete the wfName() ?
[16:06:27] <RoanKattouw>	Krinkle: Because that's what we used when OOP in PHP sucked. We're subclassing SpecialPage now
[16:06:47] <RoanKattouw>	Of course wfName() will still *work*, we're just gonna migrate a bunch of core specialpages to use the new style
[16:06:56] <Krinkle>	http://rafb.net/p/eVebTK43.html = bookjive.php :)
[16:07:06] <Krinkle>	So delete them all, or replace ?
[16:08:59] <RoanKattouw>	Krinkle: I'm gonna replace a bunch of wfName() uses in MediaWiki core with the new extends SpecialPage style
[16:09:53] <Krinkle>	OK. Maybe I should be more specific, if I enable the default skin to the exact same installation, then the top bar is perfecto.
[16:10:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) CodeReview diff weirdness for branching revs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18283 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (roan.kattouw)
[16:11:06] <Krinkle>	I could ofcourse get to know all the terms and abbrevations and strings used in MediaWiki and copy-paste the default-skin-part into bookjive and modifuy it again. But if someone here would know the issue, that would be great.
[16:20:03] <tjcertified>	Can anyone direct me to the right place to solve a problem? I have mediawiki 1.12.0. I have a custome header (a .jpg) which appears at the top of all of my pages except my main page. Can this be fixed?
[16:20:39] <Krinkle>	Can you show a link  ?
[16:21:31] <tjcertified>	no. it's internal to my organization. I can tell you I have it setup as a <div> in Skin.php 
[16:21:45] <Krinkle>	Do you see no image or the default top-image on the main page ?
[16:22:32] <tjcertified>	pardon my ignorance. What is the default top-image? I am using a custom mod of monobook.
[16:22:41] <Simetrical>	Why don't we allow <a> in wikimarkup?
[16:22:50] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49088 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php CodeRevision.php): (bug 18211) E-mail notify when a followup rev is made
[16:23:15] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) E-mail notify when a followup rev is made - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18211  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[16:23:25] <Krinkle>	tjc - do you have the htacces redirecter installed ( w/idxphp?=etc=bla goes to /wiki/bla ) ?
[16:23:37] <zocky>	Simetrical, to annoy the hell out of me, if nothing else
[16:23:56] <Krinkle>	if so, check if the full URL works, the path maybe wrong addapted.
[16:24:17] <Krinkle>	x.x.x/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
[16:24:37] <tjcertified>	no I don't. Should I?
[16:24:53] <Krinkle>	No, dont need to.
[16:25:05] <Krinkle>	Ahm.. I don't know, and have to go actually :)
[16:25:12] <tjcertified>	ok. thx.
[16:25:13] <Krinkle>	Ask aroudn in here, plently of people .
[16:28:55] <mib_3wr6ae>	hi
[16:30:40] <Simetrical>	brion-away, is there any reason we don't allow <a> tags like all the other HTML elements we allow?
[16:31:48] <zocky>	Simetrical, i've been pondering it since you asked and the only reason I can think of is javascript: links, but that should be strippable
[16:32:42] <Simetrical>	Yes, we would still validate against $wgUrlProtocols or whatever.
[16:33:40] <zocky>	i'd also love [[http://foo.com|bar]] links, but meh
[16:37:09] <AaronSchulz>	Raymond_: ever get anywhere with that stats table layout?
[16:38:17] <Rich_Morin>	Is there a way to "move" an image page or  do I have to delete and reload it?
[16:38:38] <Raymond_>	AaronSchulz: aaah not now... partly forgetten and partly no time :-/
[16:38:55] <Raymond_>	AaronSchulz: half done code on my pc
[16:39:04] <AaronSchulz>	:)
[16:39:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow blocking of global accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15294  (10mikelifeguard)
[16:39:39] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) eswiki: Name of NS 100 ("Portal") appears in lower case in tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18280  +comment (10angus)
[16:40:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logging dump seems to generate really slow, doesn't give status feedback, is lumped with stub dumps confusingly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17262  (10JSchulz_4587)
[16:44:00] <CIA-78>	03dale * r49089 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/specials/MV_SpecialMediaSearch.php: more miro export adjustments
[16:48:56] <CIA-78>	03dale * r49090 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/specials/MV_SpecialMediaSearch.php: opps... miro url double escaped.
[16:53:38] <Simetrical>	Oh, r49088 is cool.
[16:53:50] <Simetrical>	Now people had better mention related revisions in their commit messages.
[16:55:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Last 10 editors" function fails on PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18078  (10b-jorsch)
[16:58:21] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49091 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/reviewAllPages.inc: Remove flag duplication
[17:15:13] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) eswiki: Name of NS 100 ("Portal") appears in lower case in tab - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18280  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[17:15:33] *RoanKattouw 	curses wikibugs
[17:15:47] <RoanKattouw>	That should show (mod), not (REOPENED), as I didn't reopen the bug
[17:18:08] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) wikibugs should only display (REOPENED) et. al. when the status is actually changed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18284 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (roan.kattouw)
[17:20:19] <Reedy>	haha
[17:20:38] <RoanKattouw>	Speedy bug reporting ftw :)
[17:20:49] <Reedy>	RoanKattouw++
[17:35:19] <Nikerabbit>	hi RoanKattouw 
[17:36:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) remove Special:WantedFiles files from Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18275  +comment (10Eugene.Zelenko)
[17:40:30] <RoanKattouw>	Hi Nikerabbit 
[17:40:40] <kim__>	helo Nikerabbit 
[17:40:49] <kim__>	wait, where?
[17:40:56] <kim__>	Ave SPQRobin 
[17:44:15] <SPQRobin>	hello kim__
[17:45:52] <Nikerabbit>	kim__: ugga?
[17:48:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) remove from Special:WantedFiles files from Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18275  summary (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[17:56:01] <kim__>	Nikerabbit, how's life?
[18:04:13] <Nikerabbit>	kim__: though
[18:04:25] <kim__>	tough?
[18:04:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Diff formatting of filter shows references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18285 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (MacGyverMagic)
[18:04:47] <Nikerabbit>	yeah, always wrong number oh h's
[18:06:24] <kim__>	what makes life tough for you atm?
[18:14:19] <CIA-78>	03rotem * r49092 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localization update for he.
[19:21:11] <CrazyTB>	Hey, I'm trying do download an extension, but the Extension Distributor is not working, so I'm going to get directly from svn
[19:22:01] <CrazyTB>	My question is: should I get from /branches/REL1_14/ or from /tags/REL1_14_0/ ?
[19:23:13] <ialex>	should not make big difference
[19:23:29] <ialex>	but ExtensionDistributor uses /branches/REL1_14/ imho
[19:24:01] <CrazyTB>	ExtensionDistributor shows me a page with the download link and a lot of text
[19:24:33] <CrazyTB>	and, a few seconds later, it supposed should start the download, but, instead, I get redirected back to the first ExtensionDistributor page.
[19:29:00] <davide_>	whois addshore
[19:36:29] <Dewin>	There's one annoyance about mixing templates and tables that has always bothered me.
[19:37:44] <Dewin>	{{TableTemplate|blah={{AnotherTableTemplate}}}} tries to merge the tables together (not what I want), but {{TableTemplate|blah=Some Text{{Another Table Template}}}} correctly produces a nested table.  Is there any way to get the latter behavior without having to add some text?
[19:48:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) AbuseLog and testing interfaces should normalize user names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18286 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (rohde)
[19:50:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Per page search features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18287 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (rohde)
[19:54:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Action filters for batch testing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18288 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (rohde)
[19:56:18] <Emachman>	Oh no! Ialex is dead!
[19:56:51] <kim__>	or at least, a ghost ;-)
[19:56:53] <ialex|ghost>	:D
[19:56:55] <kim__>	which need not be the same thing
[19:57:17] *ialex 	is alive!
[19:57:18] <ialex>	:)
[19:57:22] <Emachman>	Zombie!
[19:58:07] <kim__>	Assume Good Faith!
[19:59:20] <Emachman>	Friendly Zombie!
[19:59:25] <Emachman>	!humor
[19:59:25] --mwbot--	HUMOR IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN
[19:59:28] <Emachman>	:(
[20:00:21] <kim__>	!grouch
[20:00:21] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "grouch".
[20:00:32] *kim__ 	grouches at Emachman 
[20:00:39] <kim__>	Emachman, now imagine we're in soviet russia ;-)
[20:00:49] <kim__>	no wait, that wouldn't work
[20:00:52] *kim__ 	scratches head
[20:01:28] <Emachman>	!set soviethumor STRICTLY FORBIDDEN HUMORS YOU
[20:01:28] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "set". You might try: !adminsettings !config !domdocument !enotif !errors !extranamespace !hosting !interwiki !newusergroup !paranoid !parserfunctions !passthru !passwordsql !rewriteproblems !session !suggest !templates !tidy !tidyforidiots !uploads 
[20:01:32] <Emachman>	:/
[20:02:01] *stwalkerster 	was pinged...
[20:02:31] <Emachman>	!_admin?
[20:02:31] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "_admin?".
[20:02:46] <Reedy>	Emachman, isnt it learn?
[20:02:55] <Emachman>	!learn soviethumor STRICTLY FORBIDDEN HUMORS YOU
[20:02:55] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "learn". You might try: !tias 
[20:02:58] <Emachman>	Nope.
[20:03:11] <stwalkerster>	I thought it was !foo is bar
[20:03:12] <Reedy>	oh
[20:03:14] <Reedy>	it is
[20:03:22] <Reedy>	!soviethumor is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN HUMORS YOU
[20:03:22] --mwbot--	Successfully added keyword: soviethumor
[20:05:03] <CrazyTB>	hey, what about the bug description that someone added here: 
[20:05:04] <CrazyTB>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CrossNamespaceLinks
[20:05:53] <Reedy>	maybe wants moving to bugzilla.. unless its been fixed
[20:06:14] <CrazyTB>	unless it's really a bug
[20:06:33] <CrazyTB>	I really don't know. I was updating my mediawiki and found it.
[20:06:38] <Reedy>	if its a bug, wants to be on bugzilla
[20:10:13] <kim__>	!soviethumor
[20:10:13] --mwbot--	STRICTLY FORBIDDEN HUMORS YOU
[20:10:24] <kim__>	Oh that works
[20:10:26] <kim__>	!humor
[20:10:26] --mwbot--	HUMOR IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN
[20:10:30] <kim__>	!soviethumor
[20:10:30] --mwbot--	STRICTLY FORBIDDEN HUMORS YOU
[20:10:35] *kim__ 	is humored
[20:10:42] *kim__ 	stops playing with the bot and gets back to work
[20:13:17] <Simetrical>	CrazyTB, the bug sounds like it probably only affects pgsql.
[20:13:58] <CrazyTB>	Simetrical: such info should be added to a bug report. (like Reedy said)
[20:14:18] <CrazyTB>	Actually, I don't use that extension, so you guys feel free to investigate more.
[20:14:49] <Simetrical>	Nor do I.
[20:15:13] <Reedy>	Well, if someone logs it.. it'll get shot down fairly quickly if fixed etc
[20:15:15] <Simetrical>	Wikimedia does, but as I say, it looks like a pgsql fix to me.  MySQL is happy with GROUP BY that doesn't include all columns.
[20:15:15] <Reedy>	Want me to do it?
[20:15:35] <Simetrical>	Please don't file a bug if you don't actually know why it's supposed to be a bug and can't reproduce it.
[20:15:40] <Simetrical>	That's not good practice.
[20:16:10] <Reedy>	Doesn't stop most people ;P
[20:16:21] <Simetrical>	Most people file bugs that they actually see affecting them.
[20:16:33] <Simetrical>	They don't copy random stuff from a wiki when they don't know who added it or what it actually means.
[20:16:48] <Simetrical>	If you file a bug, you should be able to respond to requests for clarification.
[20:16:52] <Simetrical>	Otherwise it will be WORKSFORME.
[20:18:16] <CrazyTB>	Simetrical: if you say so, then that "bug report" at that extension page should be removed as well
[20:18:25] <Simetrical>	Yeah, probably.
[20:19:20] <CrazyTB>	although I personally think that people who understand better how mediawiki works should at least take a look at that.
[20:19:33] <CrazyTB>	And if you are one of such people, then it's done.
[20:27:38] <fommil>	is there a plugin to create new pages that provides a series of dialogs to fill out a template? e.g. "new event" that provides a selection of known venues
[20:28:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Red Links for Userpage/Talk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18270  (10scd)
[20:28:30] <kim__>	you could try semantic forms ?
[20:28:53] <kim__>	although you said series of dialogs plural....
[20:28:57] *kim__ 	scratches head
[20:29:03] <kim__>	no idea then
[20:29:15] <kim__>	but semantic forms does let you make forms, that's a start :-)
[20:29:35] <kim__>	and you may be able to bend it to your will
[20:29:49] <kim__>	needs semantic mediawiki, which in turn requires you to bend your brain ;-)
[20:32:34] <fommil>	kim__: thanks... forms are a start!
[20:32:44] <fommil>	kim__: err, what is semantic mediawiki?
[20:32:57] <fommil>	kim__: isn't there a simpler way to add form support?
[20:35:32] <kim__>	fommil, semantic is actually quite simple ... once you get it <evil grin>
[20:36:06] <fommil>	kim__: err, I have mediawiki installed and running, it's not too much of a pain to do anything is it?
[20:36:36] <kim__>	well, at least, it's dead simple for the new wikiation installer tool ;-)
[20:36:39] <fommil>	kim__: Simple Forms exist, sounds better to me
[20:36:44] <kim__>	Oh look
[20:36:52] <kim__>	They do?
[20:36:53] <kim__>	hmmm
[20:37:27] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) remove from Special:WantedFiles files from Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18275  +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[20:37:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:WantedFiles does not look on shared repositories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15688  +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[20:48:55] <wikibugs>	06(LATER) some server hostnames seems wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4098  +comment (10fvassard)
[20:51:33] <Marybelle>	Closing that as LATER? Really?
[20:59:27] <Duesentrieb>	!htmlets | fommil
[20:59:27] --mwbot--	fommil: For allowing any and all HTML, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRawHtml>. This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HTMLets>, <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RawMsg> and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SecureHTML>.
[21:01:34] <fommil>	Duesentrieb: htmlets are a little too generic... i was hoping for something that would already provide most of the framework so I could do a one liner to insert a select that is populated with all categories of a certain type
[21:02:09] <Duesentrieb>	then look for something very specific :)
[21:02:20] <Duesentrieb>	i think there's an extension called AddCategory for doing just that
[21:02:43] <Duesentrieb>	also, wikia has publishged some nice editor enhancements. they handle categories separatly
[21:03:57] <fommil>	Duesentrieb: indeed http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Add_Article_to_Category
[21:04:04] <Duesentrieb>	:P
[21:10:08] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Bad HTML in database connection error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18289 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (rockmfr)
[21:21:48] <Dewin>	Hmm.
[21:22:12] <Dewin>	err, ignore me
[21:23:14] <fommil>	i have a new mediawiki installation and created an entry in a category called "0 blah" then later renamed it as "blah"... However, in the category list it is listed under "0" rather than under "b". Is this a bug? How can I refresh the category listing?
[21:31:46] <Dewin>	If I have a custom namespace "Foo", is there a way to make it where [[Link]] appearing in a page Foo:Article will link to "Foo:Link"  instead of the main namespace "Link"?.  I didn't see anything relevant in the documentation or the extension list.
[21:32:34] <dang`r`us>	ello
[21:33:03] <dang`r`us>	I have a file lying around on my mediawiki web server. how can I "upload" it into mw? Can't realy do this remotely, connection is too slow, file is huge
[21:33:06] <Dr_DBW>	fommil: check the page for 0 blah, see if it still has a category on the redirect.
[21:33:34] <fommil>	is there a good way to delete redirects?
[21:33:53] <Dr_DBW>	delete like any other page.
[21:33:54] <Simetrical>	fommil, the "delete button"?
[21:34:29] <fommil>	i don't know how to get to the redirect anymore
[21:34:44] <Dewin>	fommil: The article will say "Redirected from foo", foo's a link to the redirect page itself
[21:34:53] <Dr_DBW>	What they said.
[21:35:00] <Dewin>	or use http://www.wingsnw.com/wiki/Special:ListRedirects
[21:35:01] <Dewin>	err
[21:35:02] <Dr_DBW>	Top of hte page you get redirected to, there is al ink, follow it.
[21:35:05] <CIA-78>	03nojhan * r49093 10/trunk/tools/planet/fr/config.ini: 2 more blog, minus one
[21:35:06] <fommil>	it's not in the list... the target is
[21:35:09] <Dewin>	Special:ListRedirects 
[21:51:14] <fommil>	what is the MediaWiki page that provides the text to a "You've followed a link to a page that doesn't exist yet." page?
[21:56:04] <Dr_DBW>	Special:SpecialPages
[21:56:29] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: I can't find it in that list... first place I looked
[21:57:30] <Dr_DBW>	Well, it is about half way down, page is called MediaWiki:Newarticletext  It is the first item that come sup when you do a search on tha tpage for followed
[21:57:48] <fommil>	after deleting a redirect, the page is still being classified under the old redirect name... is this a bug?
[21:58:06] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: aah, glossed over it
[21:58:20] <Dr_DBW>	Do you have a pipe in the category specs on the page?
[21:58:49] <Dr_DBW>	Unlikley to be a bug, as that is a big thing and would be caught and fixed rather quickly.
[21:59:02] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: actually, it's not listed in my SpecialPages... but MediaWiki:Newarticletext existis
[21:59:35] <Dr_DBW>	May be an idea to upgrade then
[21:59:36] <TylerM>	hi all... is there a way to see the aggregated source text of transcluded pages? 
[21:59:52] <TylerM>	or is there a different feature I should use? :)
[21:59:55] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: pipe in the category specs?
[22:00:19] <Dr_DBW>	fommil: [[Category:Something|O blah]]
[22:00:43] <Dr_DBW>	fommil: Could just be a caching issue, which is where I would lean to.
[22:01:03] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: regarding new pages... that only shows the text above the empty text. I want to edit the text below, about copyright etc
[22:01:16] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: no pipe, caching was my first thought. How can I clear the caches?
[22:01:16] <TylerM>	my real problem is that i'm using wiki2latex, but it fails on transclusion :( apparently
[22:01:30] <Dr_DBW>	fommil: you didn't ask for that ;-)
[22:01:48] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: yeah, I thought it'd be the same page
[22:02:33] <Dr_DBW>	fommil: just continue looking through the list on the special page, word search for the words that currently appear on the page that you want to change.
[22:03:58] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: my special page list seems to be missing a lot
[22:04:09] <Dr_DBW>	fommil: what version?
[22:05:42] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: 1.11.2 from Ubuntu
[22:06:15] <Dr_DBW>	fommil: upgrade
[22:06:37] <fommil>	Dr_DBW: uuugh
[22:07:22] <CIA-78>	03kim * r49094 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/ (isolation.py mediawiki_installer.py): 
[22:07:22] <CIA-78>	Mediawiki installer, new documentation
[22:07:22] <CIA-78>	some changes to isolation (will continue tomorrow)
[22:10:28] <CIA-78>	03kim * r49095 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/mediawiki_installer.py: doc
[22:12:56] <Mentifisto>	when is 'User rights management' going to be uncapitalized?
[22:14:24] <fommil>	how can I clear any caches that mediawiki might be keeping for listing categories?
[22:18:21] <TylerM>	anyone else using wiki2latex extension?
[22:18:32] <CIA-78>	03nad * r49096 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: wrong quote type around $type in link
[22:23:30] <Simetrical>	jlerner, did you ever end up using Firefox's awesome bar?
[22:23:37] <Simetrical>	I've had a file on my desktop for months reminding me to ask you.
[22:23:44] <Simetrical>	(yay at jobs!)
[22:25:37] <jlerner>	haha
[22:25:47] <jlerner>	i was JUST THINKING ABOUT that
[22:25:50] <jlerner>	i still hate it
[22:26:04] <jlerner>	occasionally yes i do use the new features of it, Simetrical 
[22:26:15] <jlerner>	good use of desktop space
[22:26:56] <Simetrical>	The only objection I have is that it sometimes freezes the input while it fetches stuff off disk, so I have to type blind.  Might be platform-specific.
[22:27:03] <Simetrical>	But overall I find it incredibly useful.
[22:27:09] <Simetrical>	I basically don't use bookmarks anymore.
[22:27:28] <Simetrical>	It seems to be love-it-or-hate-it.
[22:27:39] <jlerner>	bookmarks sound like a good idea
[22:27:47] <jlerner>	but in practice, i just forget about them
[22:28:07] <Simetrical>	Me too.
[22:28:17] <jlerner>	if i'm really desperate, i might check there, after exhausting every other possible source of information
[22:28:21] <Simetrical>	On the other hand, typing the first few letters of whatever comes to mind in the title or URL, that I can remember.
[22:28:26] <jlerner>	i like the read it later plugin
[22:28:34] <jlerner>	which builds on bookmarks
[22:30:43] <jlerner>	but i rarely go back to read it later
[22:36:49] <CIA-78>	03nad * r49097 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: these links styles shouldn't have pipes between them
[22:49:55] <CIA-78>	03kim * r49098 10/trunk/wikiation/installer/ (getch.py installation_system.py): minor doc.
[23:09:31] <CIA-78>	03nad * r49099 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/ (RecordAdmin.php RecordAdmin_body.php): add 'count' parameter to #recordtable
[23:23:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding categories via CSS violates accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15637  (10jidanni)
[23:27:17] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) E-Mail like Discussion-Citation-Indent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18290 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (dasch_87)
[23:35:13] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) rebuildrecentchanges zaps all deletions due to looking in wrong table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18291 major; Normal; MediaWiki: RecentChanges; (jidanni)
[23:42:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Custom scripts imported/written in Special:Mypage/monobook.js don't appear in Safari 4 (user agent error) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18292 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (idan.noiman)
[23:48:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) E-Mail like Discussion-Citation-Indent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18290  (10dasch_87)