[00:00:07] <Splarka>	as I said, mwbot is rather dumb
[00:00:13] <Splarka>	here, his brain is: http://is.gd/hMRz
[00:00:26] <NightMonkey>	Splarka: Sorry, that was a "macro" on the cheatsheet.
[00:00:27] <NightMonkey>	:)
[00:00:49] <Splarka>	!?!
[00:00:49] --mwbot--	!!!
[00:00:49] <NightMonkey>	mwbot: !?!
[00:01:01] <Splarka>	don't prefix "mwbot"
[00:01:01] <NightMonkey>	Ah, there we go. Now I'm done with that.
[00:01:41] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49166 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Make latest entry of the stabilization log appears below the reviewing box when needed
[00:12:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Spam not being deleted from OTRS system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18042  (10rjd0060.wiki)
[00:14:18] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49167 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.hooks.php): Correct autoreview behavior with $wgFlagAvailability
[00:35:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) eliminate principal source of duplicated text table rows: unchecked undos - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18333  (10jidanni)
[00:42:36] <concernedcitizen>	hi guys, does anyone know how to align a google map in a wiki entry to the right (like an image frame)?
[00:54:01] <chuck>	What needs to be done to rename a user other than changing the rev_user_text in revision and user_name in user to the new username?
[00:56:12] <PeaceFul>	hi
[00:56:31] <PeaceFul>	what this room about
[00:58:06] <chuck>	PeaceFul: It's about the MediaWiki software
[00:58:24] <PeaceFul>	what does it mean
[00:59:11] <PeaceFul>	is it geeks room
[01:03:42] <chuck>	is Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason on IRC?
[01:06:45] <xaxxon>	how do you add to the sidebars using an extension?
[01:07:15] <chuck>	xaxxon: read the hooks on mediawiki.org
[01:07:19] <Skizzerz>	chuck: not atm
[01:07:42] <chuck>	xaxxon: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinBuildSidebar
[01:07:45] <chuck>	Skizzerz: what's his name?
[01:07:47] <Skizzerz>	well, he is... but he hasn't talked in a while
[01:07:48] <xaxxon>	awesome
[01:07:50] <Splarka>	avar
[01:07:51] <Skizzerz>	chuck: avar
[01:08:04] <Splarka>	on now...
[01:08:27] <Splarka>	avar has been idle 3mins 22secs, 
[01:08:31] <chuck>	avar: ping
[01:08:32] *Splarka 	pokles Skizzerz
[01:08:42] <Skizzerz>	ah
[01:08:48] <Splarka>	xaxxon: you might look at some extensions that do that, like Collection
[01:08:52] <Skizzerz>	my client doesn't give the labels, so I thought it was 3hrs :P
[01:08:57] <chuck>	or google adsense
[01:09:17] <chuck>	21:09:08 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from Skizzerz: do I know you? o.0
[01:09:18] <chuck>	:'(
[01:09:22] <Skizzerz>	:)
[01:09:25] <chuck>	Skizzerz: what client do you use?
[01:09:34] <Skizzerz>	you've probably asked me that at least 20 times by now
[01:10:04] <chuck>	have not!
[01:10:09] <Skizzerz>	hint: it starts with the letter that is often found on fictional treasure maps
[01:10:43] <chuck>	xchat!
[01:10:49] <Skizzerz>	:D
[01:11:01] <concernedcitizen>	hi guys, does anyone know how to align a google map in a wiki entry to the right (like an image frame)?
[01:11:17] <Skizzerz>	wrap it in <div style="float:right">?
[01:11:28] <Skizzerz>	(and </div> afterwards)
[01:11:50] <concernedcitizen>	but if I want a text to be on the left?
[01:12:07] <Skizzerz>	put the text after the </div>
[01:12:19] <concernedcitizen>	will give it a shot. thanks
[01:12:39] <chuck>	the power of my limited grep skillz:
[01:12:40] <chuck>	charlie@serv1:~/irclogs/freenode$ grep "client" * | grep "Skizzerz\:"
[01:12:40] <chuck>	#mediawiki.log:21:09 < chuck> Skizzerz: what client do you use?
[01:12:40] <chuck>	#yourwiki.log:20:37 <+Alexfusco5> Skizzerz: what client are you using?
[01:12:40] <chuck>	#yourwiki.log:19:42 < glacierwolf> Skizzerz: What client would you suggest, then?
[01:12:54] <Skizzerz>	heh
[01:13:07] <Skizzerz>	I told you in #botters yesterday or the day before iirc
[01:17:47] <xaxxon>	yhank you
[01:24:12] <simonrvn>	is there an extension that allows you to delete old revisions, or some part of the default installation that does? why i'm asking is that i have some really old revisions that happen to be compressed, and i'm not sure if i can get them decompressed efficiently....
[01:27:37] <Splarka>	simonrvn: there is a maintenance script somewhere in /maintenance/
[01:27:53] <simonrvn>	Splarka: ok, looking - thanks
[01:28:09] <simonrvn>	deleteOldRevisions.php
[01:28:42] <Splarka>	that might not be what you want
[01:28:50] <Splarka>	the names there kinda suck
[01:29:05] <Splarka>	that one is for deleting all non-top revisions, I think
[01:29:12] <Splarka>	you might want deleteArchivedRevisions.php
[01:29:13] <simonrvn>	seems like it, i read the comments
[01:29:19] <simonrvn>	oh maybe
[01:29:41] <Splarka>	deletes "deleted" revisions
[01:29:50] <Splarka>	but they couldn't call it DeleteDeletedRevisions, heh
[01:30:09] <simonrvn>	heh ok :)
[01:31:06] <simonrvn>	thanks :)
[01:34:39] <Splarka>	rar
[01:52:42] <chuck>	avar: ping
[01:52:58] <CIA-78>	03kim * r49168 10/trunk/wikiation/util/allextension.py: The script to test all extension: installs
[02:17:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Log should be able to list pages at revision level as well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12083  (10N/A)
[02:30:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Test implementation of FLaggedRevs for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18334 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (cenarium.sysop)
[02:36:36] <Mike_lifeguard>	O-o
[02:36:42] <Mike_lifeguard>	How many bugs does enwiki need?
[02:38:35] <Prodego>	Mike_lifeguard: at least 9000
[02:38:40] <chuck>	Mike_lifeguard: about flaggedrevs specifically? :P
[02:38:49] <Mike_lifeguard>	yes
[02:39:01] <chuck>	heh
[02:39:28] <chuck>	it's as if people think that the developers might have completely forgotten about flaggedrevs on enwiki and they need a reminder or something
[02:39:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (mikelifeguard)
[02:40:06] <Splarka>	3(NEW) Stop opening bugs requesting the enabling of Flagged Revisions on English Wikipedia KTHX!- 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18336 4BLOCKER; highest; Wikimedia: Site requests; (herd)
[02:41:03] *Splarka 	still thinks there needs to be a top 10 most duped bugs list shown on the new bug form
[02:41:19] <Mike_lifeguard>	mine is possibly a dupe
[02:41:20] <Splarka>	and not just open ones, "set focus on search box" for example
[02:41:24] <Splarka>	you're a dupe
[02:41:26] <MrZ-man>	Splarka: lol
[02:42:22] <p858snake>	i wonder how many open ones are already done just never closed
[02:42:37] <Splarka>	site requests ya mean?
[02:42:44] <Mike_lifeguard>	where do you think I got all my fixed bugs?
[02:42:49] *Mike_lifeguard 	sure as hell didn't fix them :D
[02:42:53] <p858snake>	Splarka: no /all/ bugs
[02:43:23] <Splarka>	oh, mike, those stats were for the reporter, whether or not they closed them themselves
[02:43:47] <Splarka>	so for example you have a 60% success rate of having your bugs FIXED rather than WONT/DUP/INV/WFM by someone else
[02:43:59] <Mike_lifeguard>	I know
[02:44:10] <Mike_lifeguard>	but if you check, I've marked bugs as fixed too
[02:44:16] <Mike_lifeguard>	not as many :D
[02:44:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  +comment (10mrzmanwiki)
[02:45:20] <Splarka>	well, nobody cares about who is fixing bugs, just about reporting them
[02:45:42] <MrZ-man>	so jidanni is winning then?
[02:46:26] <p858snake>	shhh it's keeping him away from the mailing lists
[02:47:05] <Stephen-Netweb>	Hopefully this can be a quick and easy answer for someone here to help fix my 1st MediaWiki site that I broke - What table/file is the 'actual' content of a page stored in? - Is it 'text/php' files in the directory structure OR is it in a 'specific' table of the DB?
[02:47:43] <p858snake>	database
[02:48:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[02:49:16] <Stephen-Netweb>	Thanks, Is each 'page' in a seperate table or are all pages in a single table and if you know the table name would be greatly appreciated as PhpMyAdmin browsing tables is giving me greif from the ISP upgrade from 4.x to 5.x
[02:49:29] <p858snake>	hmm we should have a enwiki keyword >.>
[02:50:11] <chuck>	Maybe someone should code a little AJAX thing to pull a search with terms of the new bug's subject like GetSatisfaction does
[02:50:26] <Mike_lifeguard>	IIRC, each revision has a row in the table
[02:50:44] <Mike_lifeguard>	(the text table? the revision table? couldn't tell you without checking)
[02:50:49] <Mike_lifeguard>	so it's not per-page
[02:51:02] <Mike_lifeguard>	it's one table for all page content
[02:51:07] <p858snake>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Mediawiki-database-schema.png <all the article stuff is in the yellow section at the buttom but i can't make sense of it
[02:51:51] <Mike_lifeguard>	ah, I guess text is stored in the text table (which is only /pointed to/ from the revision table)?
[02:52:19] <Mike_lifeguard>	dunno what the page table is then :D
[02:52:34] *Mike_lifeguard 	lazes
[02:52:41] <Mike_lifeguard>	someone who knows this should help them
[02:52:53] <Stephen-Netweb>	Many Many Thanks - Digging through the tables now :)
[02:53:07] <p858snake>	that design was from 2007 though so it would be slightly differnt
[02:53:38] <p858snake>	the true/current db layout can be found in maintenance/tables.sql
[02:54:07] <Mike_lifeguard>	The REVISION table holds metadata for every edit done to a page within the wiki. Every edit of a page creates a new revision row, which holds such information as the user who made the edit, the time at which the edit was made, and a reference to the new wikitext in the TEXT table.
[02:54:21] <Mike_lifeguard>	The TEXT table holds the wikitext of individual page revisions.
[02:55:20] <Mike_lifeguard>	The core of the wiki: each PAGE has an entry here [the PAGE table] which identifies it by title and contains some essential metadata . The text of the page itself is stored in TEXT.
[02:55:27] <Mike_lifeguard>	and there we have it :D
[02:57:49] <p858snake>	Mike_lifeguard: now make a cs scheme diagram of it >.>
[02:57:58] <Mike_lifeguard>	dunno how
[02:58:02] <MrZ-man>	(unless you're using external storage for page text)
[02:58:11] *Mike_lifeguard 	gets out of so much because of not knowing stuff XD
[02:58:26] <Mike_lifeguard>	In that case, revision -> text -> ES ?
[02:58:30] <Stephen-Netweb>	OK - I have the 'REVISION' blob data there and that makes sense and 'appears' fine - The 'PAGE' table has each of the ~30 pages and page_title etc all correct by the look of things
[02:58:33] <MrZ-man>	something like that
[02:59:05] <Mike_lifeguard>	seems inefficient... why wouldn't you replace the text table with ES... instead of a two-level reference?
[02:59:30] <Mike_lifeguard>	Stephen-Netweb: is there something specific you're looking for? or a specific problem you need to resolve?
[03:01:28] <Stephen-Netweb>	The 'content' of the Wiki 'vanished' but categories/users/page_titles are there just 'nothing' as to the content that was in each page is there anymore and hoping to find that content to cut &paste into a fresh install (or repair) if I can
[03:02:23] <Mike_lifeguard>	do you have a text table?
[03:02:47] <Stephen-Netweb>	So I have ~162 'BLOB' entries in the 'TEXT' table and to now find the 'actual' text' from these 'blobs' and fix that <sigh>
[03:03:12] <Mike_lifeguard>	good luck
[03:03:54] <Stephen-Netweb>	Thanks ;)
[03:06:58] <Stephen-Netweb>	Just need to slap my hoster I think ;) As /wiki/Special:AllPages shows the pages but each page has zero/zip/none content :P
[03:07:48] <CIA-78>	03mrzman * r49169 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php): * (bug 18316) Removed superfluous name="fulltext" from Special:Search
[03:08:40] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) In [[Special:Search]], there two named "fulltext" control tags. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18316  +comment (10mrzmanwiki)
[03:13:08] <Stephen-Netweb>	Done - I give up and throw my hands into the air - Each and every 'BLOB' in the 'TEXT' table has zero data and asides from the actual content everything else is still there...... <sigh> - Message to Wiki Users - Sorry please start again :P
[03:13:40] <p858snake>	who is your hoster?
[03:13:48] <Stephen-Netweb>	Site5.com
[03:15:07] <Stephen-Netweb>	And no backups - They did an upgrade and I 'thought' (the presumption of all...) that the MySql PhpMyAdmin backup I did before the 4.x to 5.x MySQL upgrade 'had' all the data and didn't check and now it returns to bite me ;)
[03:19:47] <p858snake>	wait was the upgrade to php or the myphpadmin installs?
[03:20:32] <Stephen-Netweb>	Over the past month of so they have upgraded PHP from 4.x to 5.x - MySql 4.x - 5.x and a Python Upgrade
[03:21:46] <Stephen-Netweb>	Feel free to have a look at the site 'if anything is obvious standing out' http://bleedingedge.com.au/wiki and as a reference of the page content/views http://bleedingedge.com.au/wiki/Special:Statistics
[03:43:07] <paulproteus>	From a skin, is there a way to detect which categories the page being rendered is in?
[03:43:26] <paulproteus>	(With the hope of using a different template per-category, or to at least pass in a different stylesheet based on a category.)
[03:51:44] <concernedcitizen>	is there any available stubs that can be used upon a fresh install?
[03:51:55] <concernedcitizen>	I'm looking to put an indication that this current wiki page is under construction
[05:00:47] <Emufarmers>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Download&diff=246967&oldid=246364 is this actually an improvement? :\
[05:13:10] <Splarka>	Emufarmers: wat
[05:13:23] <Splarka>	also the next edit removed teh </div
[05:15:15] <Splarka>	so, no, it isn't any improvement without the </div> (properly added)
[05:15:26] <Splarka>	but that looks ugly too without a clear somewhere
[05:21:08] <Emufarmers>	Well, yes, I meant with it fixed
[05:22:26] *Splarka 	shrugs
[05:22:42] <Splarka>	adds more economic use of vertical real estate
[05:26:22] <Emufarmers>	Are you being sarcastic?
[05:27:27] <Splarka>	a bit
[05:27:50] <Splarka>	everyone with a valid opinion on that subject is in Berlin drinking
[05:27:57] <Emufarmers>	ah
[05:28:06] <Emufarmers>	Well, I figured Tim would probably see it eventually and revert it
[05:28:11] <Splarka>	except maybe Marybelle MZ/FF
[05:28:20] <Marybelle>	>_>
[05:28:24] <Marybelle>	<_<
[05:28:29] <Splarka>	yah you
[05:28:35] <Splarka>	fix the [[Download]] page
[05:28:53] <Emufarmers>	FF?
[05:29:36] <Splarka>	metahumor
[05:59:41] <avar>	chuck: pong
[06:21:52] <Atyndall>	Any active mediawiki devs around, because I have a bone to pick with you guys regarding the API and cookies that is potentially a problem
[06:22:16] <Atyndall>	Well not potentially, it is a problem, that caused a lot of trouble for me, and possibly other users
[06:26:16] <Atyndall>	Welll, since the channel is logged, I should put it on the record. The docs, until recently, suggested that the information provided on login by the API, would be enough to construct the cookies needed to show that a bot is logged in. But since centralauth has been enabled, those cookies aren't even passed any more, but instead some centralauth ones are instead. So now the login info is completely inaccurate and to construct the cookies you have
[06:26:47] <Rich_Morin>	I've written up a draft of some partly-baked ideas on "Continuous Integration for Wikis" at http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog/archives/001673.html - Comments solicited...
[06:28:47] <Marybelle>	Atyndall: You cut off at "the cookies you have."
[06:28:55] *Lady_Aleena 	sets out cookies on the table for everyone.
[06:30:15] <Atyndall>	Marybelle: ...to scrape the Set-Cookie: headers.
[06:30:27] <Atyndall>	Which is silly and annoying
[07:54:13] <daaaman64>	Hello, :) I'm hoping to get some help with my media wiki config if anyone is around.  Anyone around?
[07:55:37] <RoanKattouw>	Well, there is a developer get-together in Berlin right now, so that's where most of the tech folks are (me included), and the ones that didn't come are probably American, and it's like 2am over there
[07:55:59] <daaaman64>	It's 1am :)  Should I drop my question anyway?
[07:57:31] <RoanKattouw>	Sure, feel free, but don't be surprised if no one answers for a while
[07:57:39] <daaaman64>	okay. :)
[07:59:06] <daaaman64>	So I'm looking to "trick" the categories page or make one myself.  See a page can have a category that is a date. Well I have a page where I user can click on those years for those dates.  I want a list of all articles that have a category with the year given.  Assuming that the date is in wm_category
[07:59:33] <daaaman64>	I'm not sure how to join the SQL or how to trick the category page. So I came here :)
[08:00:37] <Splarka>	I'd make a template like {{categorydate|2009|4|3}}
[08:01:09] <Splarka>	that did [[Category:year {{{1}}}]] [[Category:date {{{1}}}/{{{2}}}/{{3}}}]] or such
[08:01:37] <Splarka>	(template and parameterize it, then you can do what you want)
[08:02:07] <daaaman64>	wow I have no idea how to even start to do something like that.   If you can tell me how to join the SQL, I can design the page myself.
[08:02:11] <Splarka>	you could even use the #time ParserFunction and send it any old date, and categorize it thusly
[08:02:52] <daaaman64>	Thanks for the quick response though :)
[08:03:13] <Splarka>	[[Category:year-{{#time:Y|{{{1}}}}}]] [[Category:month-{{#time:m|{{{1}}}}}]] [[Category:day-{{#time:d|{{{1}}}}}]]
[08:03:36] <Splarka>	well, the point of this is there'd be no hacks needed
[08:03:45] <Splarka>	you'd have each page categorized by as many components of the date string as you wanted
[08:04:27] <Splarka>	so they'd be in all of: [[Category:Year 2009]] [[Category:Month 04]] [[Category:Day 03]] [[Category:Date 2009/04/03]]
[08:04:48] <daaaman64>	So there would be many categories then right?
[08:05:06] <Splarka>	yes, though you could hide the ones you didn't necessarily want to show, in article views
[08:05:12] <daaaman64>	a given article would have 4 categories.
[08:05:13] <Splarka>	(__HIDDENCAT__)
[08:06:36] <Splarka>	this I think would be easier than trying to string/regex/wildcard search for sublists of categories
[08:07:33] <daaaman64>	But I'd have to ask the user to specify a date and year seperately. I'm not sure it would be easier then just executing the sql to grab the title based off a category.  That should be simple, I'm just not sure how to write the join. 
[08:08:00] <Splarka>	well, using #time you could accept almost any date string that wasn't ambiguous
[08:08:48] <Splarka>	but they'd have to use templates rather than direct [[Category:date]] stuff
[08:09:11] <daaaman64>	I'm sure what a template is sorry
[08:10:01] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates  if interested
[08:11:33] <daaaman64>	Okay. Can I ask, what is so bad about my way?
[08:12:51] <Splarka>	no idea, just sounded like the native features in MediaWiki categories could work just as well
[08:13:25] <Splarka>	(plus I don't know MySql, someone else might wake up and answer you there)
[08:13:36] <daaaman64>	okay. Thanks for your help :)
[08:17:50] <Sunwell5>	hello
[08:18:42] <Sunwell5>	my Interlinker.js is having a problem
[08:21:01] <Sunwell5>	http://rafb.net/p/tSuTI118.html
[08:21:48] <p858snake>	hmm so everyone is at a conference, it appears to be the best time to break something >.>
[08:22:49] <Sunwell5>	heh
[08:24:31] <Sunwell5>	Splarka, please can you take a look at http://rafb.net/p/tSuTI118.html for me?
[08:24:59] <Splarka>	can you describe the symptoms other than 'having a problem'?
[08:25:24] <Sunwell5>	the interwiki links show up as redlinks, Splarka
[08:25:38] <Splarka>	any JS console errors?
[08:26:02] <Sunwell5>	no JS consle errors as far as I'm aware
[08:26:13] <Sunwell5>	I transwikied the js from meta
[08:27:14] <Splarka>	Error: missing } after function body
[08:27:14] <Splarka>	Source File: file:///e:/temp/xx.htm
[08:27:14] <Splarka>	Line: 106
[08:27:14] <Splarka>	Source Code:
[08:27:22] <Splarka>	ack, bad paste
[08:27:27] <Splarka>	but I get that error running the code, hmm
[08:27:59] <Splarka>	yah, it is missing a } just before var docobj
[08:28:27] <Splarka>	also the returns in that top function shouldn't be full URLs
[08:28:48] <Sunwell5>	Splarka, I did change the ones in the top to non-full URLs
[08:30:07] <Splarka>	also you probably don't need that 'global' bit
[08:30:39] <Splarka>	hmm
[08:30:54] <Sunwell5>	Splarka, http://rafb.net/p/nBVfFm45.html
[08:31:05] <Sunwell5>	Splarka, http://rafb.net/p/nBVfFm45.html
[08:31:34] <Splarka>	...
[08:31:49] <Sunwell5>	Splarka, http://rafb.net/p/nBVfFm45.html
[08:32:08] <Splarka>	yes, I saw the first two times
[08:32:25] <Sunwell5>	those were my virtualhosts for testing on localhost
[08:32:58] <Splarka>	this version has even more syntax errors
[08:33:20] <Sunwell5>	oh dear. Please check out the version at mw.org
[08:33:37] <Sunwell5>	sorry test.wikipedia.org
[08:34:33] *Splarka 	just fixes them
[08:45:20] <prefrontal>	has anyone made the page/discussion/edit/etc... tabs use ajax?
[08:46:01] <prefrontal>	cuz jeez, that sounds really convenient! in fact, id like to see ajax sprinkled on many of the interface links
[08:46:35] <prefrontal>	maybe i could do it pretty easily using mwclient and mediawikis own ajax support
[08:47:52] <Splarka>	annoying for linking
[08:48:06] <prefrontal>	what do you mean
[08:48:13] <Splarka>	if the URL never changes
[08:48:20] <Splarka>	might as well navigate in a flash frame X_X
[08:48:26] <prefrontal>	i see
[08:49:05] <Splarka>	lots of things on a wiki can be (and some are) enhanced by ajax, but navigation doesn't seem like a good one
[08:49:07] <prefrontal>	perhaps the extension could provide an alternate toolbar to the user that displayed the actual url 
[08:49:19] <Splarka>	why? why not just click and be taken there?
[08:49:33] <prefrontal>	why reload the entire interface?
[08:49:40] <prefrontal>	we're getting a new server but mediawiki is slow
[08:49:42] <Splarka>	cached, cheap, gzipped
[08:49:53] <Splarka>	heh
[08:49:55] <Splarka>	set up cache servers
[08:50:04] <Splarka>	well, anyway
[08:50:16] <prefrontal>	ajax is perceptually faster
[08:50:22] <Splarka>	there are some basic ajax tools (well, one init function really), and there is the api
[08:50:29] <Splarka>	it can all be done in a few user scripts
[08:50:52] <prefrontal>	i think i know how, just from Common.css/js
[08:51:10] <Splarka>	an addOnloadHook to usurp the default talk page tab, a function to fetch the talk page on click via api, and display it in a popup
[08:51:37] <prefrontal>	in a popup? oh god
[08:51:40] <prefrontal>	you must be kidding me
[08:51:45] <Splarka>	to 'preview' it
[08:51:57] <prefrontal>	oh i see, a lightbox
[08:52:36] <prefrontal>	this? http://www.emanueleferonato.com/2007/08/22/create-a-lightbox-effect-only-with-css-no-javascript-needed/
[08:52:47] <Splarka>	ew
[08:52:51] <Splarka>	anyway: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php
[08:52:51] <prefrontal>	or hovery css
[08:52:57] <Splarka>	read that, if you wanna do it, the api is the way
[08:53:19] <prefrontal>	yeah i added parse() to mwclient recently, he committed it :)
[08:53:31] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=MediaWiki
[08:54:04] <Splarka>	that'll give you the text of a page in finalized HTML, you just need to unescape it and stick it in the body content
[08:54:17] <Splarka>	and of course, replace all the hrefs with onclicks to do the same
[08:54:20] <Splarka>	(yuck_
[08:54:32] <Splarka>	hey Tim, are you in Berlin?
[08:54:38] <prefrontal>	tx splarka
[08:54:39] <Sunwell5>	http://rafb.net/p/xFBQeH94.html - my common.js errors
[08:54:41] <TimStarling>	yes
[08:54:57] <Splarka>	Sunwell5: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
[08:55:16] <Splarka>	Tim: I have yet to meet an australian of this generation who likes Vegemite, do you?
[08:55:23] <Splarka>	(unrelated question)
[08:55:24] <TimStarling>	yes
[08:55:28] <Splarka>	freaky
[08:55:50] <p858snake>	i eat vegemite
[08:55:57] <Splarka>	I just did a side by side comparison of Marmite and Vegemite, the Veg does have the milder taste and less sour aftertaste
[08:56:02] <Splarka>	(real british Marmite, not NZ)
[08:56:54] *Splarka 	wonders why Sunwell has such a sucky connection
[08:57:23] <Splarka>	prefrontal: it is possible to make a live mirror using just javascript, offsite even, and serve ads
[08:58:07] <Splarka>	<script src="http://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=MediaWiki&format=jsonfm&callback=something"> (well, json, not jsonfm, fm is for debugging)
[08:58:43] <Splarka>	function something(obj) {obj['parse']['text']['*'] /* this contains the text of the page */}
[08:59:08] <Splarka>	p858snake: raised on it?
[08:59:20] <p858snake>	no but i still consume it
[09:00:19] <Splarka>	has a very peculiar taste but it grows on you (not literally I hope)
[09:07:26] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: FWIW, yes, Tim is over here
[09:08:17] <Splarka>	heh
[09:08:37] <Splarka>	hey Roan, have you thought more about an api Comment/summary parser module?
[09:09:00] <Splarka>	another possible feature would be a &preload parser/emulator (currently an <includeonly> stripper)
[09:24:28] <Sunwell5>	Splarka, I tried to fix the URLs for common.js/interlinker as seen here - http://rafb.net/p/skHXMh99.html
[09:25:34] <Splarka>	use the version I gave last, it removes the 'http://' from the lower code, rather than the top function
[09:25:53] <Sunwell5>	I tried it, still redlinks
[09:25:56] <Splarka>	your 'fix' broke that version
[09:26:01] <Splarka>	also
[09:26:08] <Splarka>	the color means it just fails
[09:26:20] <Splarka>	even if it forms a bad URL it will turn blue, so that isn't the problem
[09:26:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add "c" as an interwiki prefix for commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18336 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (church.of.emacs.ml)
[09:26:27] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: <brokenrecord>Please file that as a bug</brokenrecord> ;)
[09:26:28] <Splarka>	javascript doesn't know what a redlink is
[09:26:29] <Sunwell5>	The links still show as red on my localhost wiki, splarka
[09:26:45] <Splarka>	*sigh*
[09:26:49] <Splarka>	okay, lets get more basic
[09:26:55] <Splarka>	are you using the interwiki rights system like meta does?
[09:27:33] <Sunwell5>	yes, I have $wgLocalDatabases
[09:27:45] <Sunwell5>	interwiki rights
[09:27:51] <Splarka>	okay
[09:27:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add "c" as an interwiki prefix for commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18336  (10p858snake)
[09:27:58] <Splarka>	and you're seeing these .... wtf
[09:28:58] <Splarka>	he'll come back in an hour and say <Sunwell5> Splarka, the links are still red [pastebin with random tinkering edits]
[09:29:20] <Splarka>	and leave before I can get any info out of him, like, whether he has user JS enabled, or if he's looking on Special:Log
[09:30:17] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Capability to download a Wikibooks book for offline reading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13003  +comment (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[09:37:33] <TimStarling>	hi brion
[09:37:50] <brion>	oy
[09:46:34] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Add "c" as an interwiki prefix for commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18336  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[09:46:37] <wikibugs>	03(RESOLVED) Interwiki prefix c: could be used as a shortcut for commons: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4676  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[09:46:58] *RoanKattouw 	shouts at wikibugs
[09:48:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Enable "IP block exemption" on all Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18337 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Wiki.Melancholie)
[09:48:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable IP block exemption on Simple English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18087  (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[09:48:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) WAI-ARIA landmark roles to improve accessibility in the Monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18338 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (peter.krantz)
[09:51:00] <p858snake>	i don't get how 18087 is a block for 18337 it's more of a dup tbh
[09:51:48] <Sunwell5>	Splarka, I reverted my changes on test.wikipedia - http://rafb.net/p/cHeyNY30.html - also, what should I do with interwiki to get this working?
[09:52:16] <Splarka>	Sunwell5: provide me a sample of the HTML of a page you're loading that has these redlinks in it
[09:52:27] <Splarka>	either a Special:Log page or Special:RecentChanges page
[09:52:47] <Splarka>	also, where are you trying this? MediaWiki:Common.js or in your user.js ?
[09:53:04] <Sunwell5>	This is in my MediaWiki:Common.js on my localhost wiki
[09:53:12] <Sunwell5>	(show/hide) 08:12, 4 April 2009 WikiSysop (Talk | contribs) changed group membership for User:WikiSysop@enwiki from Bureaucrats and Administrators to Bureaucrats, Administrators and Check users ‎ (testing) - from localhost wiki 1
[09:53:30] <Splarka>	need to see the HTML source for that line
[09:53:34] <Sunwell5>	(enwiki here is my mirror copy of en.wikipedia using dumps from Wikipedia, on localhost)
[09:54:59] <Splarka>	and you should be getting console errors at least with some of the older versions of that script, the problem might not even be that particular script
[09:55:10] <Splarka>	and browser cache can bugger it up too
[09:55:48] <Sunwell5>	http://rafb.net/p/Rb1b6b90.html
[09:56:53] <Splarka>	hmm
[09:57:07] <Sunwell5>	?
[09:57:31] <Splarka>	...
[09:57:54] <Lastwebpage>	I need new eyeclasses, where I can find documents about addOnloadHook on mediawiki.org?
[09:58:48] <Duduman>	does tusc allow no restriction labels?
[09:58:48] <Splarka>	is undocumented
[09:58:52] <Splarka>	add some documentation
[09:59:09] <Splarka>	(is a wiki after all)
[09:59:23] <Splarka>	basically it is addOnloadHook(function) where function is a function
[09:59:42] <Splarka>	it executes the function on page load, or immediately if the page is already loaded, it doesn't do more than that really
[10:00:03] <Splarka>	addOnloadHook(foo)
[10:00:04] <Splarka>	function foo() {alert('hi!')}
[10:00:26] <Lastwebpage>	I guess I know what it do, I only wonder why I found nowhere any documents about it.
[10:00:31] <Splarka>	you can even make it inline for less typing: addOnloadHook(function() {alert('hi!')})
[10:00:43] <Splarka>	most of the JS is undocumented
[10:00:48] <Lastwebpage>	:<
[10:01:29] <Splarka>	not only is it open source, your browser reads it uncompiled/unobfuscated/uncompressed (well, gzipped)
[10:01:40] <Splarka>	all you need to do is view source and see what it does, if you know javascript that is
[10:01:43] <Lastwebpage>	everyone copy and paste templates code or whatever in his own wiki, without the question "WHY"?
[10:01:55] <Splarka>	heh
[10:02:25] <Splarka>	addOnloadHook is needed because mediawiki loads all javascript in the <head> (by default), and dom modification requires a document to fully load
[10:02:47] <Lastwebpage>	wherefrom you know this info?
[10:02:55] <Splarka>	experience
[10:03:01] <Splarka>	and there is no good way to do that across all browsers, so they made a helper function
[10:03:01] <Lastwebpage>	aaahhh ;)
[10:03:19] <Splarka>	body.onload can only take one function, and doesn't work in all browsers
[10:03:23] <Duduman>	does Flickr2common tusc allow the no restriction images?
[10:03:34] <Splarka>	addEventListener and attachEvent are somewhat divided across the MSIE/sanity gap
[10:04:08] <Splarka>	so they just added a <script> at the bottom of the mediawiki page load that triggers when it reaches it, just before </body>, and runs all the hooks added via addOnloadHook
[10:04:17] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Please create maps-l mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18339 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (avarab)
[10:04:25] <Lastwebpage>	I think I post a request for this somewhere on mediawiki.org ;)
[10:05:27] <Splarka>	personally I trust the source of a javascript function more than some writing about it
[10:06:03] <Splarka>	it is very hard to figure out what strange wikicode does by looking at a million lines of source code, but 10 lines of javascript can tell you most of what you want to know about a function
[10:06:37] <Splarka>	but it is a wiki, you start and contribute to a javascript documentation project
[10:06:39] <Lastwebpage>	it'S a little bit frustrating for noobs like me when I click around on mediawiki.org and wikimedia.org and can't find any doucuments
[10:09:59] <Splarka>	I suppose you'd want to create ....
[10:10:09] <Splarka>	Manual:Interface/JavaScript/wikibits.js  Manual:Interface/JavaScript/edit.js  Manual:Interface/JavaScript/ajax.js  etc
[10:10:16] <Splarka>	as subpages of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/JavaScript
[10:10:36] <Splarka>	and document the functions and interactions therein, as well as the general globals in all page loads
[10:10:40] <Splarka>	sounds messy
[10:32:01] <Duduman>	Hey
[10:32:05] <Duduman>	can someone check file:///C:/DOCUME~1/Duduman/LOCALS~1/Temp/f2combutton.user.js
[10:32:20] <Duduman>	Can be hacked to allow no restriction files?
[10:32:44] <Duduman>	*Can it be...
[10:35:29] <Splarka>	heh
[10:35:58] <CIA-78>	03dale * r49170 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/libEmbedObj/mv_nativeEmbed.js: native playback fix
[10:36:30] <Duduman>	The tool shows a button on cc-by-sa and cc-by images on flickr to directly upload them via magnus upload bot
[10:37:14] <Duduman>	I wondered if it could be made also for licenses of "No known copyright restrictions" 
[10:37:35] <Duduman>	 if (anchors[i].rel == "license cc:license") {
[10:37:37] <Duduman>	                if (anchors[i].href == 'http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/deed.en') {
[10:37:39] <Duduman>	                    this.license = '{{cc-by-sa-2.0}}';
[10:37:40] <Duduman>	                }
[10:37:42] <Duduman>	                if (anchors[i].href == 'http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en') {
[10:37:43] <Duduman>	                    this.license = '{{cc-by-2.0}}';
[10:37:45] <Duduman>	                }
[10:37:56] <Duduman>	can a "No known copyright restrictions"  be added ?
[10:38:30] <Duduman>	Splarka did I explain it correctly?
[10:40:38] <CIA-78>	03nikerabbit * r49171 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (ffs/PhpVariables.php groups/Mantis.php): * Quick hack to to remove hard-coded header from the file formatter
[10:40:52] <zocky>	is there an easy way to have case-insensitive page names?
[10:41:41] <Nikerabbit>	not that I am aware of
[10:41:42] <CIA-78>	03nikerabbit * r49172 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/fuzzy.php: * Fix the output formatting
[10:43:04] *zocky 	wonders if it could be done in a hook
[10:43:15] <zocky>	or maybe one would have to hack title.php
[10:43:58] <zocky>	so that when you make a title out of text, you check if the title already exists, case-insensitively, and if it does, return that
[10:45:53] <zocky>	so you could e.g. have [[New York]] and Title::newFromText('NEW YORK') and Title::newFromText('NeW yOrK') would both return it as New York
[10:53:43] <Duduman>	Is there a tool that fetches a set of images from flickr?
[11:00:37] <Duduman>	Is this possible? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#The_Go_button
[11:01:09] <Duduman>	We simply want the go button to go to categories if galleries aren't available
[11:05:28] <Duduman>	:(
[11:11:37] <Nikerabbit>	hi rainman-sr 
[11:11:51] <rainman-sr>	hello Nikerabbit 
[11:45:07] <chantra_>	hi there, I have a link with quotes: http://www.issociate.de/board/post/466320/Occasional_"500_Internal_Server_Error".html
[11:45:22] <chantra_>	is there anyway to get an hyperlink with this ?
[11:45:46] <chantra_>	link breaks at the " level :s
[11:46:45] <chantra_>	well, I guess I can use %22
[11:58:40] <Nikerabbit>	http://www.issociate.de/board/post/466320/Occasional_%22500_Internal_Server_Error%22.html
[12:08:46] <cerbero626>	My Mediawiki installation has a subtle and strange problem: the first call to the userCan hook does not pass an object of class User, but instead passes an object of class UserStub. Every subsequent call to userCan, for loading the page in question, works fine. I need the first call to the userCan hook to pass a full User-class object (because the first call is usually for action=='read'). This works perfectly fine on one of my other
[12:29:45] <CIA-78>	03purodha * r49173 10/branches/mutiple_languages_select/: (log message trimmed)
[12:29:45] <CIA-78>	branch allowing users to select mutiple languages in their preferences
[12:29:45] <CIA-78>	- as fallabck languages of the user interface
[12:29:46] <CIA-78>	- as hint languages in the translate extension
[12:29:46] <CIA-78>	- as the (only) languages selected they want to see in wikidata
[12:29:46] <CIA-78>	this branch is for testing and development and shall be reintegrated
[12:29:50] <CIA-78>	whan the work is cone and the code is accepted.
[12:31:54] <CIA-78>	03ashley * r49174 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/ (7 files in 3 dirs): SocialProfile: cleanup, fixed a bunch of notices, removed unused globals, documented some functions, converted raw sql queries to use Database class etc.
[12:33:11] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Include Functions from MW-Edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18340 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (dasch_87)
[12:34:35] <CIA-78>	03ashley * r49175 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserGifts/SpecialRemoveGift.php: SocialProfile: follow-up to r49174 - forgot to commit bugfixes in SpecialRemoveGift.php
[12:38:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) MediaWiki:Undelete-revision doesn't render HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18331  (10happy-melon)
[12:39:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) MediaWiki:Undelete-revision doesn't render HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18331   +easy +need-review +patch (10happy-melon)
[12:40:53] <RoanKattouw>	cerbero626: Don't worry that it's a UserStub, it should automatically be unstubbed and become a User when you do a method call on it, like $user->foo()
[12:41:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Include Functions from MW-Edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18340  (10dasch_87)
[12:50:58] <cerbero626>	RoanKattouw: When I try calling the member function $user.getGroups( ) on a StubUser object, I get an error saying the member function doesn't exist. Is there any specific order in which to call the functions to get the userObject to load? It's also strange that on another installation the userObject is already unstubbed when it first gets to userCan - but on this installation it isn't.
[12:54:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) new alias for Polish Wiktionary "Wiktionary" namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18341 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (holek.n)
[12:55:56] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Please create maps-l mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18339  +comment (10brion)
[13:00:55] <Marco27>	Can I use CentralNotice with my wiki?
[13:01:10] <Marco27>	*on my wiki
[13:03:12] *avar 	gets a failed installation of mediawiki after doing grant create, select, insert, update, delete, alter, lock tables on wikidb.* to 'wikiuser'@'localhost' identified by 'wikiuser-password'; (as specified on the wiki page) because the installer tries to do:
[13:03:17] <avar>	mysql> CREATE UNIQUE INDEX user_name ON `user` (user_name);
[13:03:19] <avar>	ERROR 1142 (42000): INDEX command denied to user 'wikiuser'@'localhost' for table 'user'
[13:03:48] <avar>	mysql  Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.51a, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 5
[13:05:58] <avar>	Of course it manually works when I add "index" to the list of things being granted, is the installation documentation just wrong and this doesn't work for anyone ever or maybe there's some peculiarity with my version of mysql?:)
[13:06:14] <avar>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki#MySQL
[13:10:16] *TimStarling 	blames domas
[13:21:10] <Dr_Jekyll>	i don't know if it is a bug but it's a little confusing - in older wiki's the help is linked to Wikiname:Help after update to 1.14 it linked to Help:Help
[13:36:52] <Nikerabbit>	everybody is ircing now?
[13:42:31] <Dr_Jekyll>	how can i fix this warning: passthru() has been disabled for security reasons it's displayed instead of thumbnails
[13:44:07] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Wikibugs should report status changes, not just the current status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18054  +comment (10brion)
[13:45:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikibugs should report status changes, not just the current status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18054  (10brion)
[13:45:19] <brion>	o_O
[13:45:41] <brion>	maybe i opened two xchats my mistake somehow
[13:46:00] <brion>	ok good at least wikibugs works :D
[13:46:25] <brion>	that was odd :D
[14:16:05] <Nikerabbit>	Dr_Jekyll: disable safe mode etc?
[14:16:51] <Dr_Jekyll>	can't disable it - it not a my own server
[14:17:10] <Nikerabbit>	get a better server
[14:17:33] <Dr_Jekyll>	or could i change this via php.ini?
[14:18:03] <Nikerabbit>	you could try
[14:19:39] <Dr_Jekyll>	Nikerabbit safe_mode	Off
[14:21:33] <Nikerabbit>	http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:UnhfY5gmGq0J:www.110mb.com/forum/solved-passthru-has-been-disabled-for-security-reasons-t34000.0.html+passthru+disabled+for+security&cd=1&hl=fi&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a
[14:22:32] <Nikerabbit>	there is nothing we can do if providers disable random functions claiming "security"
[14:25:04] <Dr_Jekyll>	Nikerabbit ok thx - then i have to disable the thumbnails
[14:46:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) insertTags should insert into edit summary box too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18342 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (ahmad.m.sherif)
[15:02:23] <CIA-78>	03ashley * r49176 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserGifts/ (GiftsClass.php UserGiftsClass.php): SocialProfile: partial revert of r49174 - something went wrong and broke GiveGift and ViewGifts special pages, among others. guess we'll have to deal with raw sql here for now...
[15:14:04] <Dr_Jekyll>	hm...how can i avoid displaying this warning when passthru() is not enabled?
[15:16:53] <Nikerabbit>	why would you want to disable the warning?
[15:24:48] <Dr_Jekyll>	Nikerabbit i don't want to disable it - i'll fix it - it doesn't looks nice ;)
[15:25:58] <Dr_Jekyll>	is it possible to check for this function and only use it when it is usable?
[15:27:41] <Nikerabbit>	uh
[15:27:48] <Nikerabbit>	why would it be used if it is not needed
[15:30:17] <Dr_Jekyll>	this function is not working on my server and i don't want to call it
[15:34:54] <Nikerabbit>	Dr_Jekyll: so you would like your file manager to just silently fail deleting files because file deletion is not working?
[15:36:28] <Wolle>	Nikerabbit it's not file deleting, creating thumbnails doesn't work
[15:37:54] <Nikerabbit>	it was an example
[15:39:45] <Wolle>	Nikerabbit is it possible that the path to imagemagick is incorrect?
[15:40:24] <Nikerabbit>	Wolle: the error is clystar clear: your host has crippled your php installation
[16:02:42] <Onteron>	hi, can anyone tell me if template parameters are expanded if they're not used?
[16:03:56] <Nikerabbit>	I think not
[16:05:01] <Onteron>	ok thanks, is there anywhere i can read more about it?
[16:19:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Test implementation of FLaggedRevs for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18334   +shell (10alexfusco5)
[16:38:15] <daaaman64>	Hello :) Anyone around to give me some help?  
[16:38:37] <Betacommand>	daaaman64: just ask your question
[16:38:47] <daaaman64>	I'm looking to find the SQL Join so I can get the list of articles given a category. I'm writing a custom page.
[16:43:04] <daaaman64>	It's either that or trick the current category to look for categories that look like this '2009/%/%'
[17:00:14] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49177 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogEventsList.php: Hide show/hide links for NO_ACTION_LINK
[17:01:07] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49178 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Tweaked stability log extract display
[17:01:44] <daaaman64>	anyone around that might no my question?
[17:02:19] <Betacommand>	daaaman64: look at the category table
[17:02:43] <Betacommand>	and the category links table
[17:02:46] <daaaman64>	ya I did. But I don't see any keys that might tell me how to get the pages in those caregories
[17:02:55] <daaaman64>	category_links? Let me look at that one just a sec
[17:07:18] <daaaman64>	Excellent, that will work. It's just this now: SELECT cl_sortkey FROM `mw_categorylinks` WHERE cl_to LIKE '2015/%/%'
[17:07:28] <daaaman64>	Thank you for your help :)
[17:17:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  (10mrzmanwiki)
[17:28:21] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49179 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php: Fix profiling
[17:34:18] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49180 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: fix profiling
[17:51:26] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49181 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php: profiling fixes
[17:54:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  (10mikelifeguard)
[18:22:31] <daaaman64>	Hello, one last question, how can I set the HTML title for the wiki?  So It shows up at the top of everyone's windows.
[18:22:44] <Splarka>	MediaWiki:Pagetitle
[18:23:48] <daaaman64>	Thansk Sparkla
[18:24:11] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add a right to exempt users from global blocks, but not local ones - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18343 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: GlobalBlocking; (mikelifeguard)
[18:25:58] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Change upload rights at Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17050  +comment (10i.am.putnik)
[18:30:36] <daaaman64>	Sparkla, I've tried going to that page, when I edit it, it does nothing. what am I doing wrong?
[18:31:21] <daaaman64>	"/mediawiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Pagetitle&action=edit"
[18:31:56] <Splarka>	http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Pagetitle&action=edit
[18:31:57] <Splarka>	for example
[18:34:55] <chuck>	Can FlaggedRevs' tables be split up into separate files so that they can be used with $wgExtNewTables?
[18:39:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) provide a way to specify what text/statement is supported by a <ref> block. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18231  +comment (10rainald.koch)
[18:43:32] <needhelp1>	is there any planned development for adding a wysiwyg to mediawiki..
[18:43:53] <needhelp1>	or.. WYSIWYM
[18:44:19] <ialex>	needhelp1: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Developer_meet-up_2009/Notes/WYSIWYG :)
[18:44:19] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WYSIWYG_editor
[18:45:49] <needhelp1>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Developer_meet-up_2009/Notes/WYSIWYG .. i dont see a plan/roadmap 
[18:45:59] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49182 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.handler-db.php Configure.php): Settings that weren't taken into account when using database handler with $wgConfigureAllowDeferSetup = true are now ignored with that configuration
[18:48:07] <Splarka>	needhelp1: it isn't as simple as "add it when we get around to it"
[18:48:21] <needhelp1>	ahh ok thanks Splarka
[18:52:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mail password per user rate limit should be global for SUL accounts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17487  (10dferg-wiki)
[18:59:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow blocking email for IPs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17787  (10dferg-wiki)
[19:01:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Test implementation of FlaggedRevs for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18334  15enhancement->minor; summary; +comment (10public)
[19:15:03] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49183 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/interwiki.sql: 
[19:15:04] <CIA-78>	* update wikicities url, same as wikia now
[19:15:04] <CIA-78>	* added wikiversity prefix
[19:15:04] <CIA-78>	* order alphabetically
[20:05:19] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49184 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialUndelete.php): 
[20:05:19] <CIA-78>	* (bug 18331) MediaWiki:Undelete-revision can now have wikitext
[20:05:19] <CIA-78>	* Wrapped MediaWiki:Undelete-revision arround a <div class="mw-warning"> when previewing and removed the <hr /> after it
[20:05:19] <CIA-78>	Based on a patch by Happy-melon: http://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=5988
[20:07:05] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) MediaWiki:Undelete-revision doesn't render HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18331  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:27:53] <antiPoP>	HI, I've installed mediawiki, and teh pages which has special characters does not load correctly, eg:
[20:28:07] <antiPoP>	12http://174.132.242.42/wiki/index.php/Andr�_Weil
[20:28:31] <antiPoP>	more here 12http://174.132.242.42/wiki/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&from=Anastasius_III
[20:28:39] <antiPoP>	any idea of what's wrong ?
[20:29:59] <Betacommand>	antiPoP: its saying that page does not exist
[20:30:18] <antiPoP>	open the 2nd link, and click in any page with spceial characters...
[20:31:06] <Mike||busy>	ok, so you didn't get a reply within one second so you spam other channels
[20:31:12] <Mike||busy>	let's see how helpful people are now 9.9
[20:31:21] <Splarka>	yah, stop using colors too
[20:32:48] <Mike||busy>	you did something wrong :)
[20:32:52] <Mike||busy>	dunno what
[20:33:04] <Mike||busy>	are your tables using UTF-8?
[20:33:19] <antiPoP>	yes
[20:33:29] <antiPoP>	I think, let me check....
[20:33:47] <antiPoP>	no, they are all binary
[20:33:58] <Mike||busy>	I think that's wrong :\
[20:34:21] <antiPoP>	but I set the text->old_id flasg to gzip,utf-8
[20:34:29] <antiPoP>	so they are really storing gziped content...
[20:34:36] <Mike||busy>	oh, right
[20:35:10] <ialex>	Mike||busy: binary is correct for default charset :)
[20:35:23] <ialex>	(that's an option in the install script)
[20:35:44] <antiPoP>	I modified mwdumper to inport the text compresssed, but i didn't modified teh page tables....
[20:38:08] <antiPoP>	anyway teh page tittles are stored as plain text in a binary table? Can be thsi an issue�
[20:41:06] <antiPoP>	and the server is sending teh text as utf8
[20:41:06] <antiPoP>	Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
[20:47:54] <antiPoP>	and looking at the db it also appears with a wrong encoding... maybe it's an mwdumper issue....
[21:01:16] <awilliams>	Hello, do you guys have any good ways that you recommend for getting you Wiki recognised?  Getting it's name out there?
[21:01:49] <Prodego>	it is the same as any other website
[21:03:00] <awilliams>	okay no personal recommendations? :) 
[21:03:34] <CIA-78>	03siebrand * r49185 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings.i18n.php: Fix casing typo
[21:04:10] <Prodego>	awilliams: have a good idea, and do it well
[21:04:11] <Prodego>	:)
[21:04:42] <awilliams>	I'm in college and strapped for cash. :) Thats why I ask.
[21:04:46] <awilliams>	want to see my wiki?
[21:05:04] <awilliams>	I've worked hard on it. 
[21:10:38] <Prodego>	awilliams: sure
[21:11:36] <awilliams>	don't steal my idea :P  futurapedia.com
[21:15:58] <Prodego>	interesting idea
[21:16:21] <awilliams>	thanks.  I've tried to do what I can with mediawiki and I got fair results. 
[21:16:31] <awilliams>	I've been working on it in college over the last month or so.
[21:16:45] <awilliams>	Anyway, I need to get the name out.  If I can make some money, I can donate back.
[21:16:55] <awilliams>	cause I certainly asked for a help a few times.
[21:17:39] <Marybelle>	Try spamming forums, message boards, inboxes, wikis, etc.
[21:18:10] <awilliams>	Marybelle, I'm gonna just stick to forums I've been members for for awhile. :D  That way the practice is excusable to an extent.
[21:18:29] <Marybelle>	;-)
[21:20:01] <Prodego>	Marybelle: ...
[21:20:22] <awilliams>	wait what did you say? Firefox took a shit on me. 
[21:20:28] <Marybelle>	Heh.
[21:20:36] <Marybelle>	They have sites for that too.
[21:20:45] <Marybelle>	Prodego: Heard of anontalk? 
[21:20:52] <awilliams>	sites for what
[21:20:53] <Prodego>	Marybelle: far too much
[21:21:09] <Marybelle>	Shitting on things.
[21:21:25] <awilliams>	thats my next wiki
[21:21:38] <Marybelle>	I imagine shitpedia.org is already taken, though.
[21:22:08] <awilliams>	you know, I had an excellent domain name idea the other day. But it was freaking taken already. assholes.
[21:22:12] <awilliams>	ogreporn.com
[21:22:44] <brion>	hawt
[21:22:53] <brion>	not gonna check it though
[21:23:51] <^Neptune>	I get "Can't write config file, aborting" - I checked the FAQ and could find nothing on it
[21:23:54] <CIA-78>	03siebrand * r49186 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/SecurePoll.i18n.php: 
[21:23:54] <CIA-78>	* split date and time for 'securepoll-dump-not-finished'
[21:23:54] <CIA-78>	** FIXME: date/time split in message but not yet in file DumpPage.php because locked by Tim.
[21:23:54] <CIA-78>	* update 'securepoll-not-started' to use split date and time
[21:24:08] <Marybelle>	^Neptune: Check permissions of the config directory?
[21:24:13] <^Neptune>	I'm still quite new to websotes and stuff so don't confuse me D:
[21:24:16] <^Neptune>	How do I do that?
[21:24:26] <Marybelle>	Err.. chmod or something.
[21:24:30] <^Neptune>	Well.. I'm using 000webhost.com
[21:24:34] <^Neptune>	(if that helps)
[21:24:45] <^Neptune>	Okay, let me check
[21:24:51] <Marybelle>	Can you access the mediawiki folder from SSH or an SFTP client?
[21:25:07] <^Neptune>	FileZilla?
[21:25:21] <Marybelle>	Sure.
[21:25:44] <henna>	hmm, wikiporn.org
[21:26:58] <^Neptune>	DVD burning really makes programs take ages to load :[
[21:29:07] <^Neptune>	Marybelle: Ok, I can see the contents of the mediawiki folder in FileZilla
[21:30:24] <^Neptune>	In order to configure the wiki you have to make the config subdirectory writable by the web server. Once configuration is done you'll move the created LocalSettings.php to the parent directory, and for added safety you can then remove the config subdirectory entirely.
[21:31:20] <Marybelle>	Try right-clicking the config directory or something and getting info on it?
[21:31:28] <Marybelle>	You should be able to change the permissions of it.
[21:33:05] <^Neptune>	Ah I see
[21:33:31] <^Neptune>	"Group permissions" and "Public Permissions" aren't ticked in the Write checkboxes
[21:33:34] <^Neptune>	Which do I tick?
[21:36:37] <^Neptune>	Hmm.. I ticked them both yet I still have the same message
[21:37:28] <^Neptune>	Oh! It works!
[21:42:04] <^Neptune>	I am confused about the database config bit
[21:48:24] <Marybelle>	!install
[21:48:24] --mwbot--	Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installation>. See also: !download
[21:48:27] <Marybelle>	Read that?
[22:07:34] <antiPoP>	ok found the mwdumper issue... seems a bit dirty job...
[22:08:28] <antiPoP>	do you think wikimedia woudl be interested in a new mwdumper version, properly written, with multicpu support.... ???
[22:17:25] *siebrand 	kicks CIA-78.
[22:18:37] *Splarka 	eats CIA-78
[22:18:37] *CIA-78 	tastes crunchy
[22:18:47] *Splarka 	spits it out, ew
[22:42:32] <Sunwell5>	Hi
[22:43:24] <Sunwell5>	My javascript is still causing problems - not my extensions!
[22:46:41] <Sunwell5>	anyone able to help?
[22:47:01] <Nikerabbit>	everybody is partying or sleeping :o
[22:47:30] <Sunwell5>	I'm stuck doing maintenance work
[22:47:55] <Sunwell5>	thats what you get for being an IT technician
[23:01:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) security vulnerability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18344 critical; Normal; Wikimedia: OTRS; (scream)
[23:33:48] <luna6>	anybody could look at this http://pastebin.com/m400fa04a and tell me if any lines in here would cause a white space to appear in the wiki's page layout?
[23:33:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Security vulnerability in OTRS software - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18344  summary (10public)
[23:34:27] <Marybelle>	!?> | luna6 
[23:34:27] --mwbot--	luna6: The PHP closing tag "?>" is never required at the end of a pure-code php file, and mediawiki developers actively remove it, as it often causes problems related to trailing whitespace, and "headers already sent" errors. See also http://news.php.net/php.general/280796 and !bom as well as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17642
[23:34:39] <Marybelle>	Perhaps that?
[23:34:51] <luna6>	hmmm will give it a shot thanks marybelle
[23:36:04] <luna6>	whoa
[23:36:12] <luna6>	luna6 bows down to marybelle
[23:36:15] <luna6>	thanks!!!
[23:36:17] <Marybelle>	:-)
[23:36:36] <luna6>	my wiki bot wouldnt run ....narrowed the problem down to the whitespace by that extension but could not figure out the problem
[23:36:52] <werdna>	j #wikipedia-en-admins
[23:36:52] <luna6>	thanks that did the trick...mucho gracias
[23:37:03] <Marybelle>	lolslashfail.
[23:37:05] <Marybelle>	No problem.
[23:37:23] <awilliams>	YOU GUYS I posted the link to my wiki on ONE forum and got almost 2500 views. lol I've got about 25 users now too :)
[23:37:28] <Splarka>	wow, !?> was actually useful?
[23:37:45] <Marybelle>	Indeed.
[23:38:20] <Splarka>	Marybelle: pokled werdna about abusefilter detailed profiling?
[23:38:44] <Marybelle>	I don't my issue is AbuseFilter-related, but someone should bother Werd.
[23:38:48] <Marybelle>	Think. *
[23:38:52] *irregardless 	gets pokling instructions from splarka
[23:39:40] <werdna>	what?
[23:39:48] <werdna>	guyse just ask me :)
[23:39:48] *Marybelle 	throws stats at Splarka: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Editing_trends/Raw_data/Revisions_per_day&action=view
[23:40:02] <Splarka>	1. Acquire and pre-moisten a fingertip. If the fingertip is your own you can simply run it under cold tap water, if it is a friends you may wish to drug them first before amputation.
[23:40:13] <Marybelle>	werdna: I think Prodego was looking for a way to see specific run times for filters for a given edit.
[23:40:42] <irregardless>	Marybelle: is this the same issue as before?
[23:40:53] <Marybelle>	werdna: There's a possibility the AbuseFilter is responsible for "large" edits failing via the API.
[23:40:55] <werdna>	not likely to happen -- the profiling only happens every 50 edits.
[23:41:03] <Splarka>	2. Prepare the fingertip by grooming the nail. Trim the cuticle and buff the surface, as well as round the edges laterally and on the ends so that the pokling does not break the skin of the intended poklee
[23:41:07] <werdna>	Marybelle: depends how big the edits are, no?
[23:41:16] <Marybelle>	werdna: Only about 200,000 bytes.
[23:41:28] <werdna>	Marybelle: what kind of edits are we talking about?
[23:41:36] <Marybelle>	I keep getting 504 gateway timeout errors, but only on wikis where there are a lot of filters.
[23:41:47] <Marybelle>	Taking an HTML page and posting it to the wiki.
[23:42:42] <werdna>	h
[23:42:46] <werdna>	hm*
[23:42:56] <werdna>	well, suggestions welcome for fixing it if it is te abusefilter
[23:43:27] <Splarka>	3. Corner the intended poklee by bringing them to a place with no direct escape routes. Use subterfuge to lure them to a closet or pantry or corner of a room. Note: DO NOT surprise pokle the poklee, as this can have unintended consequences. You want the Poklee to be forewarned and prepared, but not able to escape, about 10 seconds of pre-warning is sufficient, any more than 30 seconds and they may find an escape route.
[23:43:43] <werdna>	oh shush
[23:43:52] <werdna>	what are you on about?
[23:43:57] <Splarka>	-> * irregardless gets pokling instructions from splarka
[23:44:01] *Splarka 	didn't understand that:/
[23:44:04] <werdna>	...
[23:44:14] <irregardless>	pokl?
[23:44:20] <Marybelle>	irregardless: I just had an edit work now on en.wiki...
[23:44:28] <irregardless>	well then, problem solved
[23:44:40] <Marybelle>	Maybe?
[23:44:54] <Marybelle>	I think it's Prodego's fault.
[23:45:05] <werdna>	I blame Prodego|away anyway
[23:45:20] <Marybelle>	He disabled a bunch of filters trying to be "helpful." May have ruined my test case.
[23:45:43] <Marybelle>	Yes, getting a 504 on test.wikipedia.org
[23:45:46] <Marybelle>	werdna: ^
[23:50:54] <werdna>	well I don't know. you could add guards in the filters against large edits
[23:51:03] <werdna>	or something
[23:53:25] <irregardless>	Marybelle: you could always save the page in chunks or something :S
[23:53:53] <Marybelle>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MZMcBride/Sandbox_3 Well now it's working.
[23:54:04] <Marybelle>	But if the AbuseFilter is stopping legitimate edits, it needs to be fixed.
[23:54:32] <irregardless>	well, its stopping them accidentally
[23:54:40] <Marybelle>	Doesn't matter.
[23:54:46] <irregardless>	its not tripping a fliter, its just timing out
[23:54:56] <Marybelle>	Right. That's called broken.
[23:55:06] <irregardless>	so go disable some filters
[23:55:12] <Marybelle>	By the way, I was only able to get that to work with your custom script. wikitools doesn't work.
[23:55:31] <irregardless>	is it still getting 504 errors?
[23:55:48] <Marybelle>	I'm not sure. I don't get it to print server response easily in the wikitools script.
[23:55:57] <Marybelle>	s/don't/couldn't/
[23:56:11] <Marybelle>	It just "done with edit" but didn't actually edit.
[23:56:15] <Marybelle>	Said *
[23:56:20] <Marybelle>	Typing is hard. :-(
[23:56:26] <irregardless>	I still think you're doing something wrong and should ask BJ
[23:56:49] <Marybelle>	I'm doing something wrong? I showed you the script. You ran it. It's wikitools...