[00:18:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parser function for reversing order of characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17999  (10wclark)
[00:19:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parser function for reversing order of characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17999  (10wclark)
[00:20:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) In log, link to diff of edit/log entry for action when edit/action succeeded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18374  (10agarrett)
[00:24:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parser function for reversing order of characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17999  (10wclark)
[00:26:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parser function for reversing order of characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17999  (10wclark)
[00:29:08] <Mike_lifeguard>	USE PREVIEW!
[00:29:11] <Mike_lifeguard>	oh wait... :P
[00:40:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Time in ChangesList lacking localisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18377 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (wiki)
[00:51:01] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  +comment (10agarrett)
[00:51:42] <erisco>	how would I configure mediawiki to only allow approved registered members to edit pages?
[00:51:50] <erisco>	or at least only allow one account to edit pages?
[00:51:50] <werdna>	!access
[00:51:50] --mwbot--	For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[00:52:03] <erisco>	werdna, thanks
[01:07:16] <jsd>	can anyone help with some painful LDAP authentication extension problems?
[01:30:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parser function for reversing order of characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17999  +comment (10overlordq)
[01:32:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Autopatrolled permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18307  (10rhalsell)
[01:35:09] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  +comment (10wclark)
[01:41:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) tooltip mismatch in diff, zh-tw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17736  (10jidanni)
[01:42:53] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) tooltip mismatch in diff, zh-tw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17736  trivial->normal (10jidanni)
[01:46:38] <jlerner>	is there anyway to force all pages to be regenerated?
[01:46:46] <jlerner>	is refreshLinks.php the same as that?
[01:49:23] <OverlordQ>	dont think, and dont think
[01:50:30] <Marybelle>	jlerner: rebuildAll.php or something.
[01:50:37] <Marybelle>	That will rebuild the tables.
[01:50:45] <Marybelle>	To force cache out, reset the Epoch time.
[02:02:33] <jlerner>	ah right
[02:13:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Keep simplifed Chinese characters out of zh-tw please - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17794  (10shinjiman)
[02:19:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Diff: go to top - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18351  (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:31:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Keep simplifed Chinese characters out of zh-tw please - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17794  (10jidanni)
[02:34:04] <AaronSchulz>	wernda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwW_wL4TwZg X_X
[02:36:01] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: that's kinda freaky
[02:38:27] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: I hate preferences
[02:38:31] <werdna>	just saying
[02:38:46] <AaronSchulz>	why can't we all just want the same settings? :)
[02:43:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Parser Cache's {{SERVER}} becomes "localhost" with maintenance scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18274  (10jidanni)
[02:44:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:50:37] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: :)
[02:50:53] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: just trying to inject some sanity
[02:50:54] <werdna>	somehow
[02:55:20] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrI3GjiS2Sk
[02:55:24] <AaronSchulz>	:25 lol
[03:06:50] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49256 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: (Bug 18330) Made pageCountInfo() public
[03:06:54] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Restore Article.php - pageCountInfo( $title ) to public access - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18330  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[03:08:00] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17750
[03:08:16] <AaronSchulz>	that kind seems weirder and weirder :)
[03:08:25] <AaronSchulz>	*that guy
[03:08:53] <AaronSchulz>	VasilievVV: ever drive through the Lefortovo Tunnel?
[03:10:23] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: read his ml posts
[03:12:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Redirect fixer contributions caused by vandalism - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15622  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[03:13:53] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: http://www.nabble.com/how-much-redundant-text-in-Wikipedia--td22919169.html
[03:13:56] <AaronSchulz>	hrm
[03:14:04] <werdna>	yeah, that
[03:14:14] <AaronSchulz>	you'd have to have an md5 column on revision, indexed
[03:14:32] <AaronSchulz>	that itself has size considerations
[03:14:33] <werdna>	right
[03:14:43] <werdna>	we have an active history recompression project
[03:14:57] <werdna>	which seems to be a better option
[03:15:04] <AaronSchulz>	and you might also want to double check the md5 matches to be safe :)
[03:15:13] <AaronSchulz>	active history recompression project?
[03:15:23] <AaronSchulz>	you mean tim's script?
[03:16:43] <CIA-78>	03shinjiman * r49257 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (5 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese
[03:16:56] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Keep simplifed Chinese characters out of zh-tw please - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17794  +comment (10shinjiman)
[03:20:13] <werdna>	yeah
[03:20:18] <werdna>	what tim's been working on
[03:23:10] *AaronSchulz 	saw a cute acer aspire 4730z at Staples
[03:30:57] <CIA-78>	03philip * r49258 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Update the Chinese conversion tables.
[03:53:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  (10mikelifeguard)
[04:06:34] <VasilievVV>	AaronSchulz: I was there
[04:26:12] <vgray>	hello
[04:26:14] <vgray>	i'am developing new plugin, but seems that "active" property of sidebar navigation does not works. Could you help me?
[04:26:16] <vgray>	I've open url http://host/index.php/Main_Page  and this var_dump of navigation array;
[04:26:18] <vgray>	 [0]=>
[04:26:20] <vgray>	  array(4) {
[04:26:22] <vgray>	    ["text"]=>
[04:26:23] <vgray>	    string(35) "Main Page"
[04:26:25] <vgray>	    ["href"]=>
[04:26:26] <vgray>	    string(20) "/index.php/Main_Page"
[04:26:28] <vgray>	    ["id"]=>
[04:26:29] <vgray>	    string(22) "n-mainpage-description"
[04:26:31] <vgray>	    ["active"]=>
[04:26:32] <vgray>	    bool(false)
[04:26:34] <vgray>	as you can see active = false
[04:26:35] <vgray>	why?
[04:26:37] <vgray>	s/plugin/skin/
[04:28:23] <AaronSchulz>	VasilievVV: was it fun?
[04:31:25] <CIA-78>	03sergeychernyshev * r49259 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Added {{#ask:...}} embed code generator to Special:Ask page.
[04:39:19] <VasilievVV>	AaronSchulz: I managed to get there when traffic was awful
[05:15:31] <werdna>	bluuuuhhh, too muvh burger
[05:22:02] <Todd>	I am trying to install an infobox on my wiki page. I was reading how to do this but am having trouble.
[05:45:47] <Nikerabbit>	morning
[05:50:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unable to edit/create a page with PHP 5.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18375  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[05:50:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Warning with preSaveTransform (possibly PHP 5.3 specific) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18170  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[05:51:57] <Asish>	good morning everyone
[05:52:55] <Asish>	I am using DPL plugin and I have a question in that regard
[05:53:56] <domas>	:(((
[05:54:13] <Nikerabbit>	wikibugs: doesn't do duplicate :(
[05:54:32] <flyingparchment>	i'm sure it used to, it'd say (DUP)
[05:54:44] <Asish>	I have three topics: A, B and C .. topic A is being referanced by topic B | topic C is also getting referanced by topic B
[05:55:49] <Asish>	I am using this to show topic B in topic A: {{#dpl: category=Program files
[05:55:50] <Asish>	|linksto = {{PAGENAMEE}}}}
[05:56:23] <Asish>	how can I also show topic C (which is also referanced by topic B) in topic A
[05:58:21] <domas>	\o/
[06:03:24] <Asish>	any help pls
[06:06:05] <werdna>	nobody knows apparently
[06:07:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Red Links for Userpage/Talk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18270  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[06:10:16] <Nikerabbit>	hi Splarka 
[06:10:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parser function for reversing order of characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17999  (10N/A)
[06:10:45] <Splarka>	rar
[06:12:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "changes in last 1 | 3 | 7 | 14 | 30 days" accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18317  (10jidanni)
[06:13:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "changes in last 1 | 3 | 7 | 14 | 30 days" accessibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18317   +patch (10jidanni)
[06:21:19] <AMorozov>	Hello!
[06:21:41] <AMorozov>	Is it a simple way to migrate content from one mediawiki installation to another?
[06:22:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Parser Cache's {{SERVER}} becomes "localhost" with maintenance scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18274  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[06:25:00] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49260 10/branches/preferences-work/phase3/includes/ (DefaultPreferences.php HTMLForm.php): 
[06:25:01] <CIA-78>	Almost finish DefaultPreferences. Still a few special cases to do, but by and
[06:25:01] <CIA-78>	large I'm ready to write a proper form to replace the placeholder I've been
[06:25:01] <CIA-78>	using for testing, and then to link it up to the user's real preferences. Should
[06:25:01] <CIA-78>	be ready for integration into trunk by the end of the week, hooray!
[06:26:00] <werdna>	\o/
[06:26:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) tooltip mismatch in diff, zh-tw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17736  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[06:26:31] <AMorozov>	I have an "old", semi-abandoned wiki (MW) with some content, and a new, shining and properly configured but void installation.Is it possible to automatically migrate pages from the first one, with re-assigning users and some other "fixing" actions?
[06:27:38] <flyingparchment>	AMorozov: import the old database via mysql, then run php maintenance/update.php (or re-run the installer if you don't have shell access)
[06:27:46] <sammich>	werdna: Very nice. :-)
[06:28:17] <AMorozov>	flyingparchment: should I import entire database or just selected tables?
[06:28:45] <sammich>	If you update only certain tables, you're quite likely to break things.
[06:28:52] <sammich>	Err.. s/update/import/
[06:28:58] <flyingparchment>	AMorozov: the entire database.  although you can skip any with 'cache' in their name
[06:28:58] <sammich>	Very relational.
[06:29:06] <flyingparchment>	actually, it's probably a good idea to skip those
[06:30:10] <werdna>	06:38 [Freenode] -!- sammich [n=root@wikipedia/MZMcBride]
[06:30:12] <werdna>	oh it's you
[06:30:19] <sammich>	>_>
[06:30:36] <AMorozov>	And what about all MW internal data and settings? Likely I don't need old passwords and other settings
[06:30:51] <flyingparchment>	what about them?  your question suggested you didn't want to copy settings
[06:30:59] <flyingparchment>	but those are in LocalSettings.php, if you want
[06:31:21] <AMorozov>	Aren't some of them kept in the MySQL db?
[06:32:08] <AMorozov>	Well, ok, I'll try to make a backup first :)
[06:32:40] <sammich>	Wiki users and passwords are stored in MySQL.
[06:32:59] <domas>	oh great, Brian added up
[06:33:05] <sammich>	LocalSettings holds the database password and some other config stuff.
[06:33:07] <domas>	why can't all these people show up on IRC
[06:33:16] <domas>	frags are much faster on IRC
[06:34:59] <AMorozov>	The old installation used apache based authentication thus identifying users by their IPs. The new one is configured to LDAP. Should I ask all users to login so that MW would create their personal info?
[06:35:17] <flyingparchment>	if you copy the tables, the accounts will already exist
[06:36:47] <AMorozov>	I guess, I will need some mangling/conversion of the dump, because IP-based accounts aren't convenient and I would like to turn them into LDAP login-based accounts
[06:37:08] <flyingparchment>	what do you mean, IP-based accounts?  your users edited from IPs instead of logging in?
[06:38:13] <AMorozov>	flyingparchment: HTTP-based authentication was configured in apache, and they didn't  log into MW, so MW recorded only their IPs.
[06:38:25] <flyingparchment>	so you didn't have any user accounts
[06:39:11] <flyingparchment>	you would need to update each instance of the username and user id for each account to the newly created accounts, if you want to reassign edits
[06:39:25] <flyingparchment>	(user id would be 0 for IP edits, since they aren't real accounts)
[06:40:17] <werdna>	we have a maintenance script for reassigning edits
[06:40:19] <AMorozov>	Although I have records that a page was edited from this, this and that IPs :). Since it's a corporate wiki, I have an almost exact correspondence of who edited that page.
[06:41:05] <AMorozov>	werdna: Is it a part of the "standard" distribution?
[06:41:28] <sammich>	Maintenance directory.
[06:41:29] <AMorozov>	(I have MW-1.14.0 installed from Debian testing deb)
[06:41:37] <AMorozov>	Ok, thank you.
[06:43:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parser function for reversing order of characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17999  (10agarrett)
[06:43:53] <CIA-78>	03nikerabbit * r49261 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/ChangesList.php): * (bug 18377) Time in Enhanced ChangesList lacking localisation
[06:44:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Time in Enhanced ChangesList lacking localisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18377  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[06:47:58] <CIA-78>	03nikerabbit * r49262 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ChangesList.php: * Skip the plural parsing for bytes also when not in miser mode and the message is not customised
[07:03:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Date in occitan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18308  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:07:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change default locale for {{formatnum:}} parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17659  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:08:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) #REDIRECT message in local language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17976  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:12:50] <Nikerabbit>	ugh https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1553
[07:19:13] <Splarka>	heh, without reading the bug I'd think the 'official' answer would be that the messages should be converted to lowercase (and split where they are recycled) and made uppercase just in MessagesDe... 
[07:21:38] <Splarka>	but maybe the body class should have lang=""
[07:22:15] <Splarka>	hmm, uselang doesn't change <html lang="">
[07:22:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Adding interwikis with drag'n'drop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18072  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:29:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) migration of interlanguage links to Esperanto wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3609  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:30:06] <Nikerabbit>	Splarka: no
[07:30:14] <Nikerabbit>	ok
[07:30:18] <Nikerabbit>	wikibugs is totally broken
[07:30:30] <Nikerabbit>	was it werdna who changed it?
[07:32:23] <Splarka>	I think it was brion last
[07:34:55] <Splarka>	oop, werdna changed it, brion deployed it: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/tools/wikibugs/wikibugs
[07:35:15] <Splarka>	http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/index.php?title=Server_admin_log&diff=19440&oldid=19439
[07:41:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Two-level navigation bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:42:08] <Nikerabbit>	werdna: it is not showing resolutions anymore if I add comments or something
[07:42:19] <MinuteElectron>	i noticed this yesterday
[07:42:43] <MinuteElectron>	isn't it meant to show resolution changes now, so OPEN => FIXED?
[07:42:50] <MinuteElectron>	that is how i read the commit message...
[07:43:20] *Lady_Aleena 	sets out cookies on the table for everyone.
[07:43:35] <Splarka>	well, it was showing resolutions even when the resolutions were not changing... so now it is too conservative? heh
[07:43:47] <Splarka>	wikibugs in my wikibugs? it's more likely than you think
[07:45:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) show translated titles per user language, based on interlanguage links (patch included) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5638  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:47:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) dumpHtml.php causes PHP fatal errors (due to premature output) when read access is locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4132  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:53:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interproject links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:04:29] <Nikerabbit>	any bugzilla admins here?
[08:04:55] <Lady_Aleena>	What is the namespace number for Wikipedia space?
[08:06:08] <sammich>	4
[08:06:15] <Lady_Aleena>	Thanks sammich
[08:06:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Arabic interface should behave like Hebrew interface on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18371  (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[08:06:29] <sammich>	And it's canonically Project:, not Wikipedia: ;-)
[08:06:54] <Lady_Aleena>	sammich, it has been a while since I have to think in Wiki.
[08:07:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) interwiki "links to" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1886  (10N/A)
[08:09:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) formatnum: parser function too restrictive, doesn't handle decimals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10454  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:09:45] <Splarka>	Nike: flyingparchment maybe?
[08:10:07] <flyingparchment>	if flyingparchment wanted to do bugzilla admin stuff, they would probably say so
[08:10:38] <sammich>	Or they could simply make Splarka a Bugzilla admin.
[08:11:05] <Nikerabbit>	or I just ask siebrand
[08:11:21] <flyingparchment>	sammich: splarka should probably ask brion about that
[08:11:46] <sammich>	He's shy. ;-)
[08:11:52] <Splarka>	no, I am on dialup
[08:11:58] <Splarka>	bugzilla is too slow for me
[08:12:52] <Splarka>	er him
[08:13:03] *Splarka 	noticed +third-person-mode
[08:21:11] <Splarka>	do I go on about that too much? http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~nhiggins/matt_foley.jpg "I have dialup down by the river!"
[08:21:37] <fingerprinter123>	guten morgen
[08:27:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Implementing the diacritics switching at Romanian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17428  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:29:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Quick link to set of *preferred* languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16888  (10N/A)
[08:31:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Date in occitan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18308  (10cvalmary)
[08:33:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add language independent linktrail for Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11127  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:39:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Date in occitan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18308  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:55:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add a parser function or magic word for complex formatting of numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16273  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:08:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Sorttable table doesn't sort properly strings with German umlaut characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8732  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:22:58] <Splarka>	silly valve
[09:57:49] <Duesentrieb>	looking for something to do? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMDE_contract_offers 
[10:00:29] <p858snake>	* Implement full support for TIFF files, including multi-page TIFFs, similar to
[10:00:30] <p858snake>	how DjVu is handled -
[10:00:30] <p858snake>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMDE_contract_offers/Implement_full_support_for_TIFF_files
[10:00:39] <p858snake>	^i thought that was one of the GSoC projects?
[10:03:04] <Duesentrieb>	p858snake: when i looked, it wasn't, but it may be now.
[10:03:17] <Duesentrieb>	is it just a siggestion, or as someone actually applied for it?
[10:04:39] <Splarka>	maybe they'll get into a tiff over it
[10:04:45] <p858snake>	i can't remember
[10:04:53] <Duesentrieb>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2009 sais:
[10:04:57] <Duesentrieb>	Tiff file format support.
[10:04:59] <Duesentrieb>	    * Uploading works, if enabled. Thumbnailing could work, but not on our setup - dunno how much work that needs (ask brion).
[10:05:01] <Duesentrieb>	no mention of multi-page
[10:05:11] <Duesentrieb>	also, it's under "project ideas"
[10:05:15] <Duesentrieb>	so, no problem there.
[10:05:40] <Duesentrieb>	i wonder if it would be good or bad to add a link from the gsoc page to the contract offer
[10:05:50] <sammich>	I don't see the harm.
[10:07:00] <Nikerabbit>	hi Duesentrieb
[10:07:08] <Duesentrieb>	hey nikerabbit
[10:07:29] <Duesentrieb>	learned anything exciting at the dev conference?
[10:07:59] <p858snake>	if by exciting you mean how many drinks before brion is drunk?
[10:08:10] <Duesentrieb>	for example
[10:08:17] <Nikerabbit>	:D
[10:08:22] <Splarka>	an important metric
[10:08:49] <Nikerabbit>	I learned that I need to get my hands dirty and do something
[10:09:21] <p858snake>	how about serving the drinks?
[10:36:43] <Sean_away>	when a user registers, does MediaWiki log the IP that they register from?
[10:37:20] <sammich>	If there's an entry in Recentchanges, yes.
[10:37:38] <sammich>	Used to require a separate extension (Newuserlog). Now it's in core.
[10:38:30] <Sean_Colombo>	sammich: there is an entry in Recentchanges for registrations?  Is this new in 1.14 or something?
[10:38:50] <sammich>	Somewhere around there.
[10:38:51] <Sean_Colombo>	or did I just not notice it? ;)
[10:38:54] <Sean_Colombo>	hmm
[10:38:57] <Sean_Colombo>	i'm on 1.13.2
[10:39:28] <sammich>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/40769
[10:39:59] <Splarka>	1.13 branched in 37957
[10:40:08] <Splarka>	1.14 in 45547, so 1.14+
[10:40:18] <sammich>	It'd be nice if Special:Code told which branch a rev was part of.
[10:40:38] <Splarka>	well, there are backports and tags and shit, it gets confusing
[10:40:53] <sammich>	Have it assume linear progression unless otherwise set (for backports, etc.).
[10:40:55] <Splarka>	I just go to like /mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/phase3/ and check what most files are at
[10:41:26] <Splarka>	Sean: you can just install the extension though
[10:41:36] <Sean_Colombo>	cool, thanks
[10:41:45] <Sean_Colombo>	not sure if I"ll do that or just push w/the upgrade
[10:42:14] <CIA-78>	03tstarling * r49263 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/ (20 files in 2 dirs): 
[10:42:14] <CIA-78>	* Added documentation
[10:42:14] <CIA-78>	* Fixed a couple of missing messages
[10:42:14] <CIA-78>	* Renamed a few more instances of "user" to "voter"
[10:42:15] <CIA-78>	* Removed obsolete GoToBoardVote_body.php
[10:42:21] <Sean_Colombo>	i have a rather persistent vandal apparently :/
[10:42:39] <sammich>	You can upgrade and install AbuseFilter. :-)
[10:42:50] <Sean_Colombo>	AbuseFilter sounds cool
[10:42:56] <Sean_Colombo>	guess I'll have to do that
[10:43:00] <sammich>	Or CheckUser...
[10:43:05] <Sean_Colombo>	I have CheckUser
[10:43:10] <Splarka>	abusefilter seems more for the clueless and wanton, not the persistent
[10:43:12] <Sean_Colombo>	so... I actually have his IP(s)
[10:43:36] <Sean_Colombo>	there isn't actually a way to get an ISPs attention to respond to abuse requests, is there?
[10:43:38] <sammich>	If the vandal isn't using proxies, range blocks for the IPs are easy enough...
[10:43:42] <sammich>	Not usually.
[10:43:43] <Sean_Colombo>	I've only gotten auto-replies
[10:43:47] <Sean_Colombo>	bummer
[10:44:05] <Sean_Colombo>	well, the weird thing is that he stopped using proxies
[10:44:20] <Sean_Colombo>	but his IP changes and still resolves to the same ISP each time now
[10:44:26] <Sean_Colombo>	but that IP changes by a LOT sometimes
[10:44:46] <Sean_Colombo>	so I was thinking that upon registration I could just resolve the IPs an email myself a warning if they were from that region and ISP
[10:45:02] <Sean_Colombo>	(before the AutoConfirm sets in)
[10:46:17] <Splarka>	Sean: What ISP? if it ends in .it then you're in deep sh.it
[10:46:25] <Sean_Colombo>	hahaha
[10:46:32] <Sean_Colombo>	Splarka: it's Verizon FiOS
[10:46:38] <Splarka>	what city?
[10:46:43] <Sean_Colombo>	Washington DC
[10:46:48] <CIA-78>	03minuteelectron * r49264 10/trunk/wikiation/tests/UniwikiGenericEditPage/ (. Manual Testcase 1.html): * Selenium Testcase for Uniwiki Generic edit page.
[10:47:03] <Splarka>	ahh, not the worst then, there is one asshole in LA that has 500k IPs blocked on several wikis
[10:47:16] <Sean_Colombo>	:/
[10:47:24] <Sean_Colombo>	so Verizon is no help, I take it?
[10:47:25] <Splarka>	find the extent of his access and rangeblock them from account creation and anon edits
[10:47:38] <Splarka>	then anyone on that ISP who wants an account has to request one
[10:47:46] <Splarka>	(doesn't prevent account creation via proxy, sadly)
[10:49:02] <Sean_Colombo>	yeah
[10:49:10] <Sean_Colombo>	the annoying part is that his scripts def. have proxy support
[10:49:20] <Sean_Colombo>	because he used to use them... now he stopped bothering
[10:54:07] <Nikerabbit>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7133 I'd like this to be fixed :o
[11:00:25] <totalwormage>	is there a way to make only the first line of a paragraph indent?
[11:04:04] <Nikerabbit>	totalwormage: yes
[11:04:20] <gagbro>	 &nbsp; will do the trick
[11:07:17] <totalwormage>	hmm, ah and i can ofcourse make a template with non-breaking spaces in it to create a indent 'function' with multiple spaces in it
[11:07:24] <totalwormage>	thanks!
[11:13:24] <Nikerabbit>	or use CSS
[11:14:15] <Splarka>	:first-line is CSS1 yah
[11:32:06] <guillom-berlin>	Duesentrieb, I just saw http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=April_2009_Wikimedia_Conference/Pictures&diff=next&oldid=1451171 ; look at the talk page :) 
[11:39:55] <Dr_Jekyll>	on my webspace the passthru function is disabled, now the support told me to switch to cgi-mode where this function should work but when i switch to cgi then my wiki say this -->
[11:40:06] <Dr_Jekyll>	Internal error
[11:40:06] <Dr_Jekyll>	Redirect loop detected!
[11:40:06] <Dr_Jekyll>	This means the wiki got confused about what page was requested; this sometimes happens when moving a wiki to a new server or changing the server configuration.
[11:40:42] <Dr_Jekyll>	is there something i can do in the wiki configuration?
[11:40:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Wiki page edit tools above and below edit field wanted in Special:Code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18378 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[11:43:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow to amend or delete ones own remarks in CodeReview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18379 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[11:44:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow to amend or delete ones own remarks in CodeReview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18379  normal->low (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[11:46:11] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Generic Edit Page: Categories are lost when switching between "Generic Mode" and "Classic Mode" and back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18380 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Uniwiki; (minuteelectron)
[12:07:32] <CIA-78>	03minuteelectron * r49265 10/trunk/wikiation/tests/UniwikiGenericEditPage/ (Manual Testcase 1.html Selenium.html): * Selenium Testcases: Rename, since we will only be having one per an extension.
[12:12:02] <mitixi>	anyone using Extension:AjaxRatingScript?
[12:29:20] <Dr_Jekyll>	need some help with creating a special page...the output is not in "div#content" it's at the beginning of the html how can i change this?
[12:32:38] <Dr_Jekyll>	got it - but there is still a problem i can't fix...the title of the page looks like &lt;title&gt;
[12:34:07] <Nikerabbit>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages
[12:35:09] <Nikerabbit>	specifically http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages#The_Messages_File
[12:37:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) FCKEditor / IE7 / Semantic Forms Free Text Box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18381 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic Forms; (christopher.s.dozier)
[12:39:31] <CIA-78>	03minuteelectron * r49266 10/trunk/wikiation/tests/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[12:39:32] <CIA-78>	* Selenium Testcases: Add Uniwiki Category Box At Top
[12:39:32] <CIA-78>	* Selenium Testcases: Remove base paths, these should be user defined.
[12:42:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Category unfolding doesn't work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18382 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (eusebius)
[12:43:22] <Duesentrieb>	guillom-berlin: hm, oops. commented. do as you like.
[12:50:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change default locale for {{formatnum:}} parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17659  (10OnTheWhite)
[12:53:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change default locale for {{formatnum:}} parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17659  (10OnTheWhite)
[12:56:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) provide link to documentation when Extension:Configure fails to initialize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18353  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[12:59:49] <adnc>	hello, i've seen on the german wikipedia.org toolbar there is a link for PDF-Version, which plugin is this? my version has a download as pdf which does not look like those created from the wikipedia.org pages
[13:00:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change default locale for {{formatnum:}} parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17659  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[13:02:05] <Splarka>	adnc: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection
[13:06:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add magic words to resolve canonical names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10449  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[13:07:07] <adnc>	Splarka: thank you
[13:07:48] <Splarka>	you might need that pdf writer too
[13:08:43] <adnc>	Splarka: i would need to use a local pdf renderer
[13:11:37] <Dr_Jekyll>	Nikerabbit i know this page, but i do something wrong...
[13:12:48] <adnc>	Splarka: do you have a suggestion for a pdf writer?
[13:13:12] <adnc>	ahh i see mw-render
[13:14:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change default locale for {{formatnum:}} parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17659  (10OnTheWhite)
[13:21:37] <CIA-78>	03tstarling * r49267 10/trunk/extensions/Renameuser/SpecialRenameuser_body.php: 
[13:21:37] <CIA-78>	If the user accesses the wiki between the memcached clear and the commit, an
[13:21:39] <CIA-78>	incorrect cache blob can be written, which will cause a duplicate key error from
[13:21:39] <CIA-78>	User::saveSettings(), disabling the account. To avoid this, clear the cache
[13:21:39] <CIA-78>	again post-commit.
[13:35:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change default locale for {{formatnum:}} parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17659  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[13:35:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add a parser function or magic word for complex formatting of numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16273  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[13:41:27] <cirwin>	is there way to get the content of a specific section of the page with the api?
[13:43:04] <Nikerabbit>	probably now if it is not in documentation
[13:43:05] <Nikerabbit>	not*
[13:43:11] <cirwin>	ok
[13:43:17] <cirwin>	it supports saving to a section
[13:43:21] <cirwin>	but not reading from one
[13:43:29] <Splarka>	rvsection
[13:43:50] *cirwin 	could have sworn he read that list twice
[13:43:53] <cirwin>	thank you
[13:44:00] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&rvsection=0&titles=Foobar
[13:50:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Time in Enhanced ChangesList lacking localisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18377  (10wiki)
[13:51:10] <werdna>	07:50 #mediawiki: < Nikerabbit> werdna: it is not showing resolutions anymore if I add comments or something
[13:51:19] <werdna>	Nikerabbit: what do you mean?
[13:52:03] <Nikerabbit>	werdna: it shows only (mod) foo
[13:52:23] <Nikerabbit>	just look at the changed I did in the day
[13:52:40] <werdna>	can you paste a particular change and show me what you mean?
[13:53:20] <Nikerabbit>	[10:29:51]  wikibugs> (mod) migration of interlanguage links to Esperanto wikis - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3609  (niklas.laxstrom)
[13:53:34] <Nikerabbit>	shows (mod) should be (FIXED) or something
[13:55:27] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=3609  2009-04-07 07:29:44 UTC ->  Status  >	NEW  >	RESOLVED
[13:56:06] <werdna>	If that's true then it probably needs some poking
[13:56:40] <FT2>	anyone able to answer a technical question on renameuser extension?
[13:58:00] <Splarka>	not until you ask it
[13:59:21] <FT2>	true 
[13:59:22] <FT2>	 if the target user exists, does it return an error, or does it merge them?
[14:01:51] <werdna>	already answered in #wikipedia-en-admins
[14:02:00] <FT2>	thanks :)
[14:11:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) RevisionDelete: hidden users appear in log entries created after the hiding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18383 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (dmcdevit)
[14:16:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  (10Prodego)
[14:24:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Category unfolding doesn't work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18382  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:25:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Skin system needs some sanity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17817  (10innocentkiller)
[14:25:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Options for Skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18365  (10innocentkiller)
[14:25:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) A simple XML "skin" to be used with XSLT - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17829  (10innocentkiller)
[14:38:33] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49268 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSpecialpages.php: Re-add id's to special page groups (that I originally did in r36907 for the TOC ). Still not sure how to make that TOC look good though :-\
[14:49:32] <CIA-78>	03minuteelectron * r49269 10/trunk/wikiation/tests/UniwikiCreatePage/ (. Selenium.html): * Selenium Testcases: UniwikiCreatePage
[14:54:47] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) UTF-8 encoding problem related to the "user=" parameter at � count_edits � - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12053  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:57:50] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49270 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/specials/DT_ViewXML.php: Fixed PHP error, added call to new 'pages' value
[14:58:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Cleanup of products - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18384 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (innocentkiller)
[15:01:00] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Upgrade to the ultimate dictionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16906  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[15:01:45] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49271 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/specials/DT_ViewXML.php: Added more usage of language values in XML
[15:03:05] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49272 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/languages/DT_Messages.php: Simplified description, added values for XML and file-importing
[15:05:04] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49273 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/includes/DT_ImportJob.php: Job class for importing a page
[15:05:42] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49274 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/includes/DT_XMLParser.php: Class for parsing XML for importing into pages
[15:06:52] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49275 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/languages/DT_Messages.php: Put import-success value in future tense
[15:07:11] <Traveler115>	hello. have some questions
[15:07:40] <^demon>	!ask
[15:07:40] --mwbot--	Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[15:08:34] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49276 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/specials/DT_ImportXML.php: New special page for importing XML
[15:08:39] <Traveler115>	Which Copyright/license: does i have to choose if i setup wiki1.14 ? 
[15:09:30] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49277 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/README: Updated for importing
[15:10:14] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49278 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/ (INSTALL includes/DT_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 0.2
[15:10:15] <^demon>	Traveler115: Whichever one you want, I suppose.
[15:10:52] <^demon>	But if you're going to be using Wikipedia content, GFDL is the way to go.
[15:12:15] <Traveler115>	its going to be a wiki for a private project with some colleagues
[15:14:17] <^demon>	Then any of them is fine, really/
[15:17:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Toolbar: Security Vulnerability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17600  summary (10minuteelectron)
[15:18:07] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Toolbar: No text on attachment pop-up after submit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16536  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[15:19:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User input to UniWiki toolbar injected into javascript without being sanitized -- possible XSS vector. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17600  summary; +comment (10agarrett)
[15:22:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Toolbar: Selected text, after pressing button, is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17175  +comment (10minuteelectron)
[15:23:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Toolbar: Assumes pretty URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17605  summary (10minuteelectron)
[15:24:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Toolbar: User input to UniWiki toolbar injected into javascript without being sanitized -- possible XSS vector. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17600  summary (10minuteelectron)
[15:25:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Toolbar: Caption lost after duplicate filename warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18385 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Uniwiki; (minuteelectron)
[15:29:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Toolbar: Attachment button should insert a link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18386 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Uniwiki; (minuteelectron)
[15:31:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  (10matthew.britton)
[15:31:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Toolbar: Strict standards notices on successful upload. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18387 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Uniwiki; (minuteelectron)
[15:32:56] <^demon>	!class OutputPage
[15:32:56] --mwbot--	See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classOutputPage.html
[15:34:29] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Split the pywikipedia list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18388 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (maarten)
[15:34:29] <^demon>	Does OutputPage ever have an a title object to work from, or does it just rely on $wgTitle and text-forms of the title?
[15:35:02] <TimStarling>	it uses $wgTitle
[15:35:15] <TimStarling>	really $wgTitle should be a member of OutputPage or Skin, instead of a global
[15:36:42] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) EXIF data lacking localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18389 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (wiki)
[15:37:50] <^demon>	TimStarling: Any opposition to making an mTitle and starting to use it in OutputPage, at least?
[15:38:21] <TimStarling>	no
[15:38:50] <TimStarling>	I think you should propagate it to Skin though, as well
[15:39:23] <TimStarling>	last time I checked, Skin and its descendants was responsible for the majority of $wgTitle references
[15:40:02] <^demon>	So instead of $wgTitle, Skin could call $wgOut->getTitle()?
[15:40:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Date in occitan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18308  (10cvalmary)
[15:42:13] <ialex>	!class Skin
[15:42:13] --mwbot--	See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classSkin.html
[15:42:36] <dschwen>	hey all.
[15:42:43] <dschwen>	any api.php wizards inthe channel?
[15:43:11] <Splarka>	!ask
[15:43:11] --mwbot--	Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[15:44:05] <ialex>	^demon: $this->mTitle = $out->mTitle; ;)
[15:44:20] <dschwen>	I'm doing an api request for an emai token, return format JSON
[15:44:26] <ialex>	(by passing the OutputPage object to Skin::setMembers())
[15:44:31] <dschwen>	evaling ing Firefox yields an invalid label error
[15:44:43] <^demon>	ialex: I prefer proper accessors, rather than directly accessing the variable.
[15:44:57] <Splarka>	can you pastebin the output (removing the token itself) ?
[15:45:48] <dschwen>	{"query":{"pages":{"0":{"pageid":0,"ns":2,"title":"Benutzer:XX","touched":"2009-04-06T16:44:57Z","lastrevid":0,"counter":0,"length":2883,"starttimestamp":"2009-04-07T15:37:17Z","emailtoken":"xxx"}}}}
[15:45:52] <Nikerabbit>	hmm
[15:46:12] <dschwen>	is it the 'length' label?
[15:46:16] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: is there any reason to have a skin object without outputpage object?
[15:46:25] <dschwen>	all the others look fine
[15:46:39] <dschwen>	but that would be a bug in api.php, wouldn't it?
[15:47:11] <ialex>	lenght in the page's size iirc
[15:47:14] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: No reason that I can think of
[15:48:04] <Splarka>	dschwen: are you referencing it by .length ?
[15:48:22] <Splarka>	if so, that is a conflict with an existing property, use ['length']
[15:48:37] <dschwen>	I'm just eval ing that string
[15:48:40] <Splarka>	hmm
[15:48:42] <dschwen>	the eval throws the error
[15:48:57] <MrDferg>	^demon, do you think this (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17498) is easy to fix?
[15:49:13] <dschwen>	.length and ['length'] should be the same thing
[15:49:23] <dschwen>	but that is not the issue
[15:49:31] <Splarka>	function foo(obj) {
[15:49:31] <Splarka>	  alert(obj['query']['pages']['0']['length']);
[15:49:38] <Splarka>	works... as a callback (first test)
[15:49:58] <dschwen>	?!
[15:50:08] <Splarka>	(but you can't use callback and get tokens)
[15:50:11] <dschwen>	ok, but how do I get obj?
[15:50:19] <Splarka>	sec
[15:50:25] <dschwen>	I'm doing a syncronous xhr in any case
[15:50:43] <dschwen>	I'm doing eval( xhr.responsetext )
[15:50:46] <Splarka>	  var x = '{"query":{"pages":{"0":{"pageid":0,"ns":2,"title":"Benutzer:XX","touched":"2009-04-06T16:44:57Z","lastrevid":0,"counter":0,"length":2883,"starttimestamp":"2009-04-07T15:37:17Z","emailtoken":"xxx"}}}}'
[15:50:47] <Splarka>	  eval("foo(" + x + ")");
[15:50:47] <dschwen>	but it fails
[15:50:54] <Splarka>	function foo(obj) { alert(obj['query']['pages']['0']['length']);}
[15:51:04] <Splarka>	try that? just in a random JS
[15:51:41] <Splarka>	oh
[15:51:49] <Splarka>	you're just eval() the raw response? that won't work
[15:51:58] <dschwen>	why not?
[15:52:05] <Splarka>	it isn't executable code as is, you have to give it something to do
[15:52:15] <dschwen>	?! 
[15:52:16] <Splarka>	like eval("foo(" + xhr.responsetext + ")");
[15:52:18] <dschwen>	it is JSON
[15:52:31] <dschwen>	that should be javascript object notation
[15:52:35] <Splarka>	that makes it the parameter of a function, which you can reference in the function as the first parameter
[15:52:38] <dschwen>	why would that not ve evalable?
[15:53:00] <dschwen>	it is the whole point of json
[15:53:41] <dschwen>	or not...
[15:53:43] <dschwen>	hm
[15:54:01] <dschwen>	let me think a second
[15:54:04] <Splarka>	no, JSON isn't guaranteed to do that
[15:54:14] <Splarka>	there are several ways to use it
[15:54:27] <Splarka>	eval( xhr.responsetext )
[15:54:38] <Splarka>	that is not one of them, not in the mediawiki api at least
[15:54:54] <Splarka>	you can do for example: var x = eval("(" + xhr.responsetext + ")");
[15:55:02] <Splarka>	or maybe: eval("foo(" + xhr.responsetext + ")");
[15:55:22] <dschwen>	ah, got it, the foo function is superfluous
[15:55:28] <Splarka>	it is convenient
[15:55:28] <Traveler115>	Hi have a problem
[15:55:33] <Splarka>	if you just eval the bare response it looks like exactly what you pasted, which won't do much in JS
[15:55:34] <dschwen>	just need to wrap the responseText in parens ()
[15:55:37] <dschwen>	then it works
[15:55:42] <dschwen>	sure
[15:55:50] <dschwen>	it will construct an object
[15:56:02] <Splarka>	you can construct a function in the JSON btw, using &callback
[15:56:18] <Splarka>	but that is a security problem, it can then load as a <script>, so all login certification is dropped
[15:56:22] <Splarka>	you're treated as an anonymous user
[15:56:24] <dschwen>	eval( "(" + xhr.responseText + ")" );   
[15:56:41] <Traveler115>	Did all http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Debian_GNU/Linux here on part get latest wiki. configured it, moved the LocalSettings.php, deleted config folder, but if i want to access my wiki i get the configureation page : please setup.... what i did worng?
[15:56:41] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49279 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Remove some unused $wgOut's.
[15:57:48] <Traveler115>	ah forgot a slash
[16:22:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Date in occitan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18308  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[16:30:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Date in occitan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18308  (10cvalmary)
[16:31:40] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Cannot upgrade to Mediawiki 1.14 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18360  (10roan.kattouw)
[16:33:24] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49280 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/ (13 files): First round of war on $wgTitle. Don't use it in Special Pages. We've got SpecialPage::getTitleFor() which returns the localized title 100% of the time. Use that.
[16:33:39] *RoanKattouw 	cheers for ^demon
[16:34:27] *^demon 	sets his sights on OutputPage :)
[16:34:34] <RoanKattouw>	heh
[16:34:43] <RoanKattouw>	That one'll be trickier I guess, due to the wfMsg() thing
[16:36:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) array of boring event types to exclude from recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18364  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[16:36:49] <CIA-78>	03robh * r49281 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: Removed the old whygive blog, as its no longer updated and is having squid issues.
[16:37:42] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49282 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ImagePage.php: 
[16:37:42] <CIA-78>	* Use Linker::link()
[16:37:42] <CIA-78>	* Whitespaces tweak
[16:39:01] <ialex>	^demon: +		$action = SpecialPage::getTitleFor( 'Import' )->getLocalUrl( 'action=submit' );
[16:39:02] <ialex>	you can use $this->getTitle()->getLocalUrl( 'action=submit' );
[16:39:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Split the pywikipedia list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18388   +shell; +comment (10nicdumz)
[16:39:49] <ialex>	(for pages extending SpecialPage)
[16:39:51] <^demon>	ialex: Is getTitle() localized?
[16:40:07] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Remove abusefilter log type - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18368  summary; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[16:40:09] <ialex>	^demon: it's a wrapper for SpecialPage::getTitleFor() :)
[16:40:15] <^demon>	Ah :)
[16:42:47] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49283 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialImport.php: Use getTitle() here, it's cleaner.
[16:42:52] <^demon>	ialex: The others are wfSpecialEtc()-style, so they can't use getTitle :(
[16:43:10] <ialex>	^demon: exactely :(
[16:43:16] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Set $wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'][] = 'sysop' on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18390 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (happy-melon)
[16:43:25] <ialex>	oO
[16:43:32] <^demon>	Death to wfSpecial :p
[16:43:39] <ialex>	+1000 :D
[16:45:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'][] = 'sysop' on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18390  -easy ; +comment (10innocentkiller)
[16:45:40] <MrDferg>	O_o
[16:45:51] <Traveler115>	hello
[16:47:03] <Traveler115>	i have setup my wiki now '*yippi* and can access it. now i want to safe it so other users cant register... no they should be able to register, but i want to decide for activate them or not...
[16:47:22] <Traveler115>	what i have to do?
[16:47:23] <^demon>	I wonder if a gsoc project could be "organize MW svn?"
[16:47:51] <trace>	hi all
[16:47:58] <Splarka>	Traveler115: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount
[16:48:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Create "Maps" component in MediaWiki extensions product - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18391 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (avarab)
[16:48:04] <trace>	any admin online ?
[16:48:22] <trace>	hm
[16:48:22] <ialex>	!ask
[16:48:22] --mwbot--	Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC.
[16:48:39] <trace>	is any admin online ?
[16:48:46] <Splarka>	*facepalm*
[16:48:54] <^demon>	Wikimedia admin? Try #wikimedia-tech
[16:48:54] <Splarka>	admin of what?
[16:49:14] <trace>	10x
[16:49:43] <avar>	^demon: Yeah, thanks for that
[16:49:53] <^demon>	avar: Apologies.
[16:49:56] <avar>	:)
[16:50:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create approved Finnish Wikiversity [fi] (January 2009) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16977  +comment (10rhalsell)
[16:50:39] <Nikerabbit>	hello
[16:54:48] <dschwen>	"*facepalm*" is not really a newbie-friendly reply...
[17:09:37] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49284 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: Follow-up r49280: use $this->getTitle() since this page extends SpecialPage :)
[17:10:12] <^demon>	Ah, missed that one.
[17:11:10] <ialex>	hehe :)
[17:16:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) some server hostnames seems wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4098  (10hashar)
[17:29:08] <CIA-78>	03rotem * r49285 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/SecurePoll.i18n.php: Localization update for he.
[17:29:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) provide link to documentation when Extension:Configure fails to initialize - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18353  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[17:31:03] <Nikerabbit>	o' hi all
[17:31:10] <TrevorParscal>	hi
[17:33:52] <TrevorParscal>	Nikerabbit: how's it going?
[17:36:11] <Nikerabbit>	TrevorParscal: very good, and you?
[17:36:27] <TrevorParscal>	Taking a few days off - I'm great! :)
[17:53:41] <Marco27>	Hi :-) !!! How can I move a page with its subpages?
[17:54:11] <Simetrical>	Marco27, check the box when you move it.
[17:54:46] <Marco27>	And if there's not the box?
[17:59:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Red Links for Userpage/Talk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18270  (10scd)
[18:01:21] <Marco27>	Simetrical: And if there's not the box?
[18:01:32] <Simetrical>	Then your version or config is wrong.
[18:02:26] <Marco27>	Simetrical: I've move-subpages right...
[18:08:23] <nick_h[litage]>	g'day guys
[18:08:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Red Links for Userpage/Talk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18270  (10scd)
[18:08:29] <Mike_lifeguard>	ohaithar
[18:09:05] <Mike_lifeguard>	I've never used short urls, so I cannot help you beyond pointing at the docs
[18:09:12] <Mike_lifeguard>	but someone else here will surely know the answer
[18:09:12] <nick_h[litage]>	i've just noticed that all of my articles are at / (Eg: foo.com/Some_Article) rather than at /wiki/ (Eg: foo.com/wiki/Some_Article). does that matter?
[18:11:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Red Links for Userpage/Talk - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18270  +comment (10Platonides)
[18:11:28] <Platonides>	nick_h[litage], it's not too robust
[18:12:15] <Platonides>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory#Reasons_why_putting_wiki_pages_in_the_root_directory_of_the_web_site_is_bad
[18:13:02] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49286 10/trunk/phase3/skins/ (Chick.php Simple.php): Use parent instead of SkinTemplate explicitly
[18:15:09] <nick_h[litage]>	Platonides: thanks! reading..
[18:16:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) interwiki "links to" / whatlinkshere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1886  summary; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[18:19:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) In log, link to diff of edit/log entry for action when edit/action succeeded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18374  (10matthew.britton)
[18:21:20] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49287 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: Document OutputPage::out()
[18:23:24] <Nikerabbit>	Platonides: see the URL section
[18:24:48] <Traveler115>	Mhh Setup all. Secured wikidb usw in external file (hope did it right, how can itest this?). now i want to login into my wiki. how i understand, WikiSysop is an existing user. in wikidb->user the user exists. but i cant login?
[18:26:00] <dvdm>	hi #mediawiki.. i upgraded some smw files and now all my page links without prefixes: lead to a Special:Upload page , even though the file is there
[18:26:20] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Autopatrolled permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18307  +comment (10rhalsell)
[18:28:07] <CIA-78>	03catrope * r49288 10/trunk/extensions/SharedUserRights/SharedUserRights_body.php: (bug 18373) Fix fatal in SharedUserRights extension
[18:28:34] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) SharedUserRights throws fatal error upon submitting changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18373  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[18:28:37] *brion 	waves at RoanKattouw_away and wonders how _away he really is
[18:28:37] <dvdm>	here is the wiki: http://ced.zooid.org/wiki/Main_Page you can see http://ced.zooid.org/wiki/Information_by_topic is actually there
[18:29:32] <dvdm>	is this the wrong channel.. or did i hit the wrong time zone ?
[18:33:37] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49289 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/specials/DT_ImportXML.php: Fixed PHP error
[18:35:11] <CIA-78>	03siebrand * r49290 10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/ (languages/DT_Messages.php specials/DT_ImportXML.php): Add plural support for $1 in 'dt_importxml_success'
[18:36:38] <Traveler115>	im logged in with Sysop account now. But dont see in Special sites a function for account creation ?
[18:36:41] <dvdm>	i am also seeing "No file by this name exists, but you can upload one" but all these symptoms are difficult to search on
[18:37:25] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49291 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormEditPage.php: Fixed PHP error
[18:41:16] <CIA-78>	03siebrand * r49292 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (3 files): Remove some $wgTitle (inspired by ^demon)
[18:43:32] <ialex>	siebrand: you should use $this->getTitle() rather than SpecialPage::getTitleFor() ;)
[18:43:55] <siebrand>	ialex: hmm, just copied what ^demon did...
[18:44:33] <ialex>	See r49283, r49284 ;)
[18:48:49] <luminoso>	anyone with big host experience? (justhost, hostmonster,bluehost)
[18:48:54] <CIA-78>	03siebrand * r49293 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (3 files): 
[18:48:55] <CIA-78>	* Use cleaner $this->getTitle() (thanks for pointing that out, ialex)
[18:48:55] <CIA-78>	* Fix a syntax error
[18:53:41] <Meriadoc2>	i've got a little problem with #ifexist, can somebody help me? :)
[18:54:34] <Nikerabbit>	explain the problem
[18:56:15] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49294 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (3 files): Per Nikerabbit: Use $this->getTitle()->getPrefixedText() rather than $this->getTitle()
[18:58:04] <Meriadoc2>	I use http://rafb.net/p/kEDaQq38.html and it works as it should, but if the article does not exist, i get one missing article in Special:WantedPages. It is really bad, because this Specialpage is now full of non-existing articles
[18:58:29] <Splarka>	expected
[18:58:57] <Splarka>	in order for #ifexist conditions to switch case for creation/deletion, a link has to be registered so pages using that parserfunction can be invalidated/updates
[18:59:47] <^demon>	Expected, but not wanted behavior :p
[18:59:54] <Splarka>	"now full of non-existing articles"
[18:59:58] <Splarka>	what should it be full of, existing?
[19:00:02] <Meriadoc2>	sorry for bad english :P
[19:00:10] <Meriadoc2>	:D
[19:00:15] <Splarka>	^demon: wanted rather than not wanted, if not ideal
[19:00:19] <^demon>	Splarka: But #ifexist calls aren't necessarily wanted :)
[19:00:28] <Splarka>	sure, so don't use them
[19:00:44] <Splarka>	but the links are wanted, so the pages update
[19:01:10] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12019
[19:02:36] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49295 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/SpecialReplaceText.php: Replaced escaping of quotes with complete HTML-escaping
[19:03:43] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49296 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ReplaceText.php: Replaced global "$dir" variable with "$rtgIP"
[19:03:57] <^demon>	Splarka: Comment 5 :)
[19:04:00] <CIA-78>	03yaron * r49297 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/README: New version: 0.4.1
[19:04:33] <Splarka>	^demon: yep, expected and wanted behavior
[19:04:55] <Splarka>	in comparison to the alternatives (except not using #ifexist)
[19:05:05] <^demon>	Is there any reason 12019 is open?
[19:05:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'][] = 'sysop' on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18390  normal->low; +comment (10chazinathedex)
[19:05:47] <Meriadoc2>	any help for me or not?
[19:05:57] <ialex>	!b 12019
[19:05:57] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12019
[19:06:19] <^demon>	ialex: or scroll up 15ish lines?
[19:06:36] <Splarka>	Meriadoc2: no solution, except to stop using #ifexist
[19:06:46] <Splarka>	or hack Wantedpages threshhold
[19:06:56] <ialex>	yeah ;)
[19:07:41] <^demon>	Splarka: I would argue that just because a link is used in an ifexist, doesn't mean it's necessarily "Wanted" by WantedPages...but meh.
[19:07:45] <Meriadoc2>	Splarka: hm, no good solution
[19:08:33] <Splarka>	^demon: the #ifexist implies a want, someone wants it or wants to know if it exists
[19:09:53] <Meriadoc2>	Splarka: but i just want to know, if it exist, the article needn't exist
[19:10:25] <^demon>	Splarka: What about calls that are based on stuff not based on user input (ie: constructed from other parserfunctions, etc)
[19:10:42] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Non-clickable links (from #ifexist) should be flagged in pagelinks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15735  +comment (10herd)
[19:11:22] <Splarka>	Meriadoc2: no solution, it does what it does
[19:11:53] *Splarka 	does not advocate hacking the extension to break a feature, nosir
[19:11:59] <Splarka>	^demon: wat
[19:12:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'][] = 'sysop' on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18390  +comment (10Prodego)
[19:12:44] <^demon>	Splarka: I suppose: {{#ifexist:{{#someotherparserfunct}}|true|false}}
[19:12:57] <Splarka>	well, what is the point of an #ifexist call if the page is never meant to exist? talk pages, subpage translations, images..
[19:13:07] <Meriadoc2>	Splarka: hm, who wants these articles in WantedPages, if he uses ifexist. Thats illogical.
[19:13:09] <Splarka>	regardless on whether or not another template/pf constructs the title
[19:13:25] <Splarka>	Meriadoc2: argue all you want, but it has to work this way to work
[19:13:36] <^demon>	Splarka: I dunno, I'm just playing devil's advocate.
[19:13:59] <Meriadoc2>	Splarka: why has it?
[19:14:18] <Splarka>	the alternative: there'd have to be a schema change to create a new table just to register ifexist links, and invalidate them on page creation/deletion, just to use ParserFunctions extension
[19:14:35] <Splarka>	that is prohibitively annoying just for a very commonly used extension
[19:14:47] <Splarka>	^just
[19:15:45] <Meriadoc2>	Splarka: but it is a bug?
[19:15:48] <Splarka>	no
[19:15:57] <Splarka>	that bug is a feature request
[19:16:06] <Splarka>	the "bug" got closed as WONTFIX
[19:16:17] <Splarka>	er, INVALID
[19:16:17] <Meriadoc2>	hm
[19:16:20] <Splarka>	see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10857
[19:17:49] <^demon>	Splarka: Isn't 15735 and 12019 basically dupes of 10857?
[19:17:55] <^demon>	*Aren't
[19:18:26] <Meriadoc2>	hm, okay, thanks for your help, my english is too bad to understand all, but i got the mainpoint i guess.
[19:18:36] <Splarka>	well, 12019 looks like the diplomatic alternative to 10857, and is valid (sort of), but not really something easy to do
[19:19:22] <Splarka>	15735 might be a dupe, but is more invalid than dupeable
[19:19:34] <Splarka>	their argument is that category links never should be in WantedPages, I think
[19:19:40] <Splarka>	or at least in the page links table
[19:19:47] <Splarka>	when they can be, via [[:Category:Foo]]
[19:19:49] <^demon>	Splarka: 12019 not proposing anything better (except ifexistlinks), it's just stating the obvious "We use X because some theoretical Y doesn't exist [yet]"
[19:20:10] <Splarka>	but leaving one open bug to catch all the complainers seems a good bugzilla practice, heh
[19:20:15] <Splarka>	like "Install StringFunctions"
[19:20:17] *Splarka 	winks
[19:20:37] <Splarka>	there is a secret resolution to that bug that only bugzilla admins can see... "HELLFREEZEOVER"
[19:26:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'][] = 'sysop' on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18390  +comment (10Ruslik00)
[19:28:23] <CIA-78>	03brion * r49298 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.php: 
[19:28:23] <CIA-78>	Fix for r49236 -- splitting up of Collection messages into two pieces to reduce load on regular page views.
[19:28:23] <CIA-78>	"Clear book" link was coming up as "&lt;coll-clear_collection&gt;" when tweaking
[19:28:23] <CIA-78>	book list on Special:Book. Added loading of CollectionCore messages as well as
[19:28:23] <CIA-78>	Collection messages in the ajax book list loader, has resolved this.
[19:31:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Search Server port configuration option in lsearch.conf doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18392 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (jacobrosenberg)
[19:32:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Search Server port configuration option in lsearch.conf doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18392  (10jacobrosenberg)
[19:33:43] <Reedy>	done
[19:34:16] <Slade->	hey how can you rename a topic in mediawiki?
[19:35:16] <dschwen>	move
[19:37:31] <Slade->	ah move
[19:44:36] <wikibugs>	06(LATER) Set $wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'][] = 'sysop' on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18390  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[19:46:27] <Nikerabbit>	who fixed wikibugs?
[19:48:35] <Mike_lifeguard>	andrew
[19:49:27] <CIA-78>	03rainman * r49299 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/src/org/wikimedia/lsearch/frontend/SearchServer.java: bug 18392 - make search port configurable, also removed unused entry point
[19:52:19] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Search Server port configuration option in lsearch.conf doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18392  +comment (10rainman)
[19:55:47] <Preforx>	Hello. I have a Question again :). I have my Wiki Up. http://.../Wiki/ .... this is for my colleagues. now i want a new wiki for my project. http://.../project_wiki/ (for example)... how can i realise that? does i have to make a new folder with wiki files of the tar.gz archive?
[19:58:15] <Wuzur|rhn>	!farm | Preforx
[19:58:15] --mwbot--	Preforx: To run multiple wikis, you can simply install MediaWiki in different folders, with different databases or in one with database prefixes. You can also have multiple wikis using a single installation: <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family> and <http://booleandreams.wordpress.com/2007/06/12/running-multiple-instance-of-mediawiki-on-the-same-server-using-the-same-source-code/>.
[19:59:58] <Preforx>	ah okay try it!
[20:19:29] <flaif>	Is there a script that can go through my wiki and really delete all "deleted" pages, so it is as if they were never there?
[20:21:42] <Platonides>	flaif, there's a maintenance script for that
[20:24:41] <flaif>	Platonides: Happen to know which one? deleteOldRevision? deleteOrphaned?
[20:27:27] <Platonides>	I think there was one for that, but don't remember which
[20:32:24] <flaif>	Don't see one.
[20:32:30] <wikibugs>	06(REMIND) Texvc request: Create new TeX character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16845  (10Kaimbridge)
[20:33:42] <Platonides>	deleteArchivedRevisions.php
[20:35:01] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Texvc request: Create new TeX character - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16845  (10Kaimbridge)
[20:37:26] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Installing revision 37404 breaks the system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18154  +comment (10brion)
[20:38:29] <flaif>	It might delete archived revisions, but deleted pages still say "this page has been deleted". I'd like it to be as if the page never existed.
[20:40:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Extension:Simple Security to Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18239  (10brion)
[20:41:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Image Revision [oldimage] Deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18171  (10SkierRMH)
[20:44:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Extension:SecurePoll to bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18269  +comment (10brion)
[20:46:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Favicon should support W3C preferred method - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17980  +comment (10jadrian)
[20:46:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logging dump seems to generate really slow, doesn't give status feedback, is lumped with stub dumps confusingly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17262  (10brion)
[20:52:55] <RoanKattouw>	brion: Back, FWIW
[20:53:02] <Nikerabbit>	hi RoanKattouw
[20:53:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New 404 error page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17316  (10Platonides)
[20:53:20] <^demon|away>	Hey Roan :)
[20:54:11] <brion>	:D
[20:54:22] <RoanKattouw>	Hi guys
[20:54:26] <RoanKattouw>	Had something to say, Brion?
[20:54:37] <brion>	just sayin hi
[20:54:44] <RoanKattouw>	k
[20:55:21] <RoanKattouw>	About the Wikimania talks thing in #wikimedia-tech just now, I was wondering...
[20:55:47] <RoanKattouw>	I've heard that in order to apply for a scholarship I'd need to support a paper, but I'd really like to go with Brianna's idea of doing a workshop-like thing
[20:56:29] <RoanKattouw>	She suggested I do a workshop about developing a site using the MW API in like an hour using Ruby on Rails or something similar (RAD)
[20:56:37] <brion>	that'd be awesome
[20:57:16] <RoanKattouw>	Right; so I was wondering how that'd work: do I still write+submit a paper or do I just say I wanna do a workshop? :)
[20:57:17] <^demon>	I wonder if there's something I could present on. Maybe the ForeignApiRepo :)
[20:57:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Mailing lists need search function readded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17390  (10brion)
[20:57:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Please Activate AbuseFilter on zh wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18301  (10brion)
[20:58:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) 404 error should be localised - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12302  (10Platonides)
[21:02:01] <RoanKattouw>	brion: Do you happen to know what my chances of getting a scholarship would be when I'm 'merely' planning to do a workshop?
[21:02:17] <brion-lunch>	probably pretty good, i don't think they're overly rules-laweryly
[21:02:20] <brion-lunch>	but who knows :D
[21:02:24] <RoanKattouw>	heh
[21:02:31] *brion-lunch 	gonna make me a grilled cheese
[21:02:53] <^demon>	I made quesadillas last night
[21:15:22] <brion-lunch>	i'd make quesadillas but i seem to be out of tortillas
[21:15:25] <brion-lunch>	at least i have cheese :D
[21:16:36] <atglenn>	make a quesadilla with cheese and cheese :-P
[21:17:23] <brion-lunch>	i'm liking this idea
[21:17:31] <brion-lunch>	twice the cheese
[21:17:38] <brion-lunch>	the low-carb folks should go nuts over it
[21:41:48] <^demon>	I wish there was an array_flatten :-\
[21:42:12] <OverlordQ>	eh?
[21:45:03] <OverlordQ>	you can hack one together not too hard
[21:56:08] <Simetrical>	SpecialPage::getTitleFor( 'Import' )->getLocalUrl( 'action=submit' ); <-- Does that even work?
[21:56:19] <Simetrical>	I thought calling a method on the return value of a function is a syntax error in PHP.
[21:57:18] <^demon>	WFM, but we changed that one to $this->getTitle()
[21:58:14] <^demon>	Special:MIMEsearch also WFM, and it has SpecialPage::getTitleFor( 'MIMEsearch' )->getLocalUrl()
[21:58:55] <Simetrical>	Seems to work.
[21:58:59] <Simetrical>	I thought it didn't.
[21:59:46] <Simetrical>	My hatred for PHP has decreased marginally.
[21:59:55] <[AMB]Tolsome>	hi
[22:00:53] <[AMB]Tolsome>	http://simpire.megamers.ch/wikipire/index.php?title=Ambici%C3%B3n
[22:01:18] <[AMB]Tolsome>	Can someone set the "[▼]" to the right side?
[22:01:24] <[AMB]Tolsome>	thank you.
[22:02:42] <DW-Staff|Gara>	Hi, I'd like to embed a banner (png) in a wikipage of mine, which has to always take up 100% of the body's space, regardless of the resolution the page is viewed at. The default [[Image:]] - Syntax only supports fixed widths, and the css background-image:url() property doesn't seem to work for me. Any ideas on how to do this?
[22:02:51] <[AMB]Tolsome>	http://simpire.megamers.ch/wikipire/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css After Upgrade to 1.14 is this now in the center, how can I take this back to the right, because in the .css is nothing other.
[22:03:27] <Simetrical>	background-image doesn't support variable widths (for now), no.
[22:03:47] <Simetrical>	I'd say . . . not really any way to do this without injecting HTML somehow.
[22:04:20] <[AMB]Tolsome>	Simetrical, can you help me with my problem? :)
[22:06:02] <DW-Staff|Gara>	damn, I had some guy make that banner for me and now I'll have to tell him it was a waste
[22:06:28] <[AMB]Tolsome>	program it on your own
[22:06:50] <[AMB]Tolsome>	go to your skin and make a own place for the header
[22:07:06] <[AMB]Tolsome>	like by me: http://simpire.megamers.ch/wikipire/index.php?title=Hauptseite
[22:07:09] <[AMB]Tolsome>	look.
[22:10:20] <DW-Staff|Gara>	you mean the earth-header-thingy?
[22:11:01] <DW-Staff|Gara>	Because if thats so, it's not what I need
[22:11:18] <DW-Staff|Gara>	I nee a resizing banner inside the articlepage's body
[22:11:36] <[AMB]Tolsome>	program it?
[22:12:43] <DW-Staff|Gara>	If I could, I wouldn't have to ask you know
[22:13:28] <[AMB]Tolsome>	Can you show me your wiki?
[22:14:23] <DW-Staff|Gara>	http://www.dotawiki.de/index.php/Hauptseite
[22:14:53] <[AMB]Tolsome>	Deutsch
[22:15:31] <DW-Staff|Gara>	jep, but since this i a english IRC-Chan I thought its better to stick at english
[22:15:34] <[AMB]Tolsome>	Super, dann kannst du mir ja auf Deutsch dein Problem mal genauer schildern, bitte.
[22:15:49] <[AMB]Tolsome>	dann kann ich dir auch helfen.
[22:16:12] <[AMB]Tolsome>	ja, Query.
[22:21:40] <DW-Staff|Gara>	simetrical: Any hopes of it getting implemented in the near future?
[22:30:28] <Simetrical>	DW-Staff|Gara, generally we avoid exposing client-side resizing of images, because it often looks horrible.
[22:31:52] <Simetrical>	Thus only fixed pixel widths.
[22:32:08] <AMorozov>	Hi!
[22:33:38] <AMorozov>	I just performed a not completely correct import of a mediawiki dump and would like to drop all imported pages and re-try with a slightly modified dump.How to correctly drop all existing pages?
[22:34:16] <AMorozov>	Is it enough to ``delete from wikipage`` ?
[22:36:49] <AMorozov>	Anybody awaken?
[22:37:43] <^demon>	brion: How could somebody get posting rights for the blog? I'd like to contribute a bit :)
[22:38:57] <AMorozov>	Does importDump.php correctly handles html entities?
[22:39:22] <^demon>	AMorozov: Are you having issues with <>, specifically?
[22:39:34] <AMorozov>	it seems that all &lt; and &gt; are dropped during import
[22:39:44] <AMorozov>	^demon: exactly.
[22:39:55] <^demon>	!16554
[22:39:55] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "16554".
[22:39:57] <^demon>	!b 16554
[22:39:57] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16554
[22:40:34] <^demon>	The workaround is described on the php bug mentioned on our bug. The best workaround I've found is to use apache --with-expat
[22:41:29] <Mike_lifeguard>	If I wanted to ask a question not about mediawiki but which folks here would like be able to answer, would I be yelled at?
[22:41:42] <sammich>	No.
[22:41:49] <Mike_lifeguard>	\o/
[22:41:49] <AMorozov>	do you mean I to recompile php and/or apache with expat instead of libxml2?
[22:42:55] <Mike_lifeguard>	I have WinXP and I want to set up dual boot w/ ubuntu. To do that I need to repartition the HD...
[22:43:16] <Mike_lifeguard>	to do that, I've been told "defrag it first so you have contiguous physical diskspace & don't lose data"
[22:43:34] <Mike_lifeguard>	AND I've been told "Don't defrag it first, you will not lose data when you repartition"
[22:44:37] <Mike_lifeguard>	so, am I risking losing the data on my windows partition when I re-partition the drive? or can I safely forge ahead?
[22:45:28] <sammich>	Re-partioning can be dangerous. It used to be that to re-partiion, you always had to wipe the whole drive to avoid things breaking.
[22:45:42] <sammich>	I would say to defrag first on both sides before moving the partition.
[22:45:55] <Mike_lifeguard>	on both sides?
[22:45:56] <sammich>	Simetrical may know more.
[22:46:09] <AMorozov>	Mike_lifeguard: doing nasty things with your hard drives you're always on a dangerous side :)Backup your data first and keep your fingers crossing :)
[22:46:17] <sammich>	It's already partitioned, no?
[22:46:30] <Mike_lifeguard>	not that I'm aware of, no
[22:46:55] <AMorozov>	I would repartition using WinXP native methods, Disk Administrator as an example.
[22:46:57] <sammich>	Oh, so you're going from 1 to 2?
[22:47:02] <Mike_lifeguard>	yes
[22:47:16] <Mike_lifeguard>	I guess I can use my university's ftp server to store stuff...
[22:47:53] <Mike_lifeguard>	I've never backed anything up ever & never had data loss... but installing a new OS and repartitioning the drive sounds like it might be worth it this time :D
[22:48:26] <Holek_>	hey guys, which file is responsible for displaying random page?
[22:48:26] <sammich>	There are two types of people in the world. Those who have lost data and those who will.
[22:48:39] <AMorozov>	is it enough to ``delete from wikipage`` to attempt another importDump?
[22:48:39] <sammich>	Holek_: Check the specials/ directory?
[22:48:55] <Holek_>	thankee :3
[22:49:01] <Mike_lifeguard>	sammich: thanks
[22:51:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) array of boring event types to exclude from recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18364  +comment (10Platonides)
[22:53:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SpecialChanges* does not use userCan (regression) but did in 1.12 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18393 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; (paprots)
[22:54:09] <AMorozov>	please suggest about correct mass page deletion?
[22:54:52] <sammich>	Wut?
[22:55:28] <AMorozov>	I'd like to retry the import, Debian guys promise that they have a fixed version of PHP in sid/unstable.
[22:55:29] <Simetrical>	Mike_lifeguard, it's generally safe enough to just use the Ubuntu partitioner and don't fret about it.  Make sure you give enough space to both OSes.  You should back up any important data anyway, hard disks can fail.
[22:55:37] <Simetrical>	So take this as an opportunity.
[22:56:01] <Simetrical>	AMorozov, importing imports to a whole bunch of tables.
[22:56:03] <Mike_lifeguard>	Yeah, I'm cleaning up too, as I go
[22:56:19] <Mike_lifeguard>	uncovering some real treats (read: horrible old school work... kinda funny)
[22:56:51] <AMorozov>	So dropping entire DB and restore it from pre-import dump is the safest solution, right?
[22:59:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) array of boring event types to exclude from recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18364  +comment (10FT2.wiki)
[23:01:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) img_auth.php should use userCan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18394 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; (paprots)
[23:07:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Augment (or replace) wgNonincludableNamespaces with userCan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18395 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; (paprots)
[23:24:30] <simonrvn>	meh. update.php keeps segfaulting on me switching my stuff over to pg ...
[23:24:39] <simonrvn>	:(
[23:39:45] <AaronSchulz>	brion: I wonder if I should get a laptop
[23:39:59] *AaronSchulz 	wants that cute Aspire notebook
[23:41:36] <brion>	nom nom
[23:44:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable IP block exemption on Simple English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18087  +comment (10techman224)
[23:45:03] <OverlordQ>	simonrvn: that's safe to ignore, there's a workaround for it if you're that concerned
[23:47:29] <simonrvn>	OverlordQ: i'm more concerned about the tsearch2 stuff not getting updated even though my wiki admin user has permission to change that stuff ("CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION ts2_page_title() ... ").
[23:48:18] <simonrvn>	er, select, not change... it should figure out that i've already updated it (by hand) and skip it.
[23:49:06] <simonrvn>	the main error here is the fact that even though i've defined the schema to use for the wiki and tsearch, it seems to ignore it.
[23:49:26] <simonrvn>	$wgDBmwschema and $wgDBts2schema
[23:50:47] <simonrvn>	i've run over the "Installing MediaWiki" page at mw.org several times now. i was wondering what else i can read to help me figure this out (and yeh the workaround would be nice, for that segfault ;)
[23:51:03] <simonrvn>	i'll be afk soon, but i'll check my away log
[23:53:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) array of boring event types to exclude from recentchanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18364  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10jidanni)