[00:00:06] <FloLG>	Hey?
[00:00:56] <FloLG>	I have a problem... what language should I use to describe it? I could try in English, French or German. I prefer German...
[00:01:41] <FloLG>	Is there anybody?
[00:01:52] <Emufarmers>	We're waiting to hear your question
[00:02:07] <FloLG>	It's about the mediawiki^^
[00:02:28] <Mike_lifeguard>	I sure hope so :)
[00:02:31] <FloLG>	So... I want to enable TeX
[00:03:10] <FloLG>	But it doesn't work. I've been sitting here for hours with a friend of mine, we're both students and we're doing the wiki for math class.
[00:03:44] <p858snake|2>	are you getting any error messages?
[00:04:18] <FloLG>	Yeah, i do. Look at: http://www.stephan-gehle.com/mediawiki/
[00:05:16] <Emufarmers>	FloLG: do you actually have TeX on your system?
[00:05:37] <FloLG>	What do you mean by this?
[00:05:48] <Emufarmers>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Math
[00:07:20] <FloLG>	I think that the problem is the texvc - file.
[00:08:23] <FloLG>	I have this file on the server, i changed some stuff like it was said on the internet... but how can i "run" make on my server?
[00:11:10] <Emufarmers>	Depends on your hosting setup
[00:11:27] <Emufarmers>	probably SSH
[00:11:28] <Mike_lifeguard>	FloLG: so far as I know that's a command line/shell thing
[00:11:37] <Mike_lifeguard>	but I could be wildly wrong XD
[00:12:48] <FloLG>	But how can I RUN something on the server?
[00:12:56] <ruizpeel>	hi. who should i ask to get access to mediawiki's svn? my extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FramedVideo has been moved to svn by siebrand a few weeks ago so finally i want to get access to it.
[00:13:51] <FloLG>	My problem already starts with the requirements for texvc... i don't know what to do with OCaml oder GNU make [...]
[00:14:04] <Emufarmers>	ruizpeel: probably Brion or TimStarling.  Although maybe you should talk to Siebrand, if he committed it for you? :D
[00:14:19] <Emufarmers>	FloLG: how are you accessing the files on your server?
[00:14:33] <siebrand>	Emufarmers: can't do anything for ruizpeel to get commit access.
[00:14:41] <FloLG>	I do this by using FTP. Do you mean this?
[00:15:11] <Emufarmers>	FloLG: yes; you probably won't be able to compile latex, then
[00:15:15] <Mike_lifeguard>	FloLG: you need to SSH into the server and run make from the shell
[00:15:31] <Mike_lifeguard>	if you can't do that then you can't set it up
[00:15:39] <ruizpeel>	ok then, i'll try to ask TirStarling
[00:15:53] <FloLG>	But its impossible on my webspace.... so I'm "game over" ?
[00:16:18] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: i gonna need some help from you later :)
[00:16:37] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: we'll see if I am able to...
[00:24:27] <Emufarmers>	FloLG: I can compile texvc for you if you want; I can't guarantee it'll work on your machine, of course
[00:25:53] <CIA-78>	03siebrand * r49360 10/trunk/extensions/News/News.i18n.php: Fix description
[00:30:14] <FloLG>	Emufarmers: How can you do it for us?
[00:30:18] <Eulalia>	Hi everyone, can someone tell me the name of the extension that lets certain users sudo into other accounts? I've looked on MediaWiki.org, and couldn't find anything
[00:32:26] <Emufarmers>	FloLG: sent via /query
[00:33:36] <FloLG>	where do i insert it now?
[00:34:06] <Emufarmers>	go to your mediawiki directory
[00:34:08] <Emufarmers>	then /math
[00:35:20] <FloLG>	it's still the same error :-(
[00:35:47] <FloLG>	But we have changed very much in the config-file... 
[00:36:01] <FloLG>	i mean in localsettings.php
[00:36:48] <Emufarmers>	you put the texvc file in the math directory?
[00:36:51] <werdna>	sudo?
[00:37:16] <Emufarmers>	werdna: he means su
[00:37:21] <FloLG>	Yes I did.
[00:37:30] <Emufarmers>	Not familiar with any such extension, though
[00:41:14] <FloLG>	mmh... so there isn't any solution?
[00:43:44] *Emufarmers 	shrugs
[00:52:26] <Emufarmers>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Project:Support_desk/Sections/Miscellaneous&curid=24885&diff=248747&oldid=248693 something tells me this might have been machine-translated
[01:11:11] <Splarka>	what is Mistergreen doing to Extension:Slideshow? rewriting or subverting/takeover?
[01:22:20] <Emufarmers>	o,o
[01:22:22] <Emufarmers>	well, the old extension does appear to be dead
[01:22:24] <flyingparchment>	but the two extensions are completely different
[01:22:25] <Emufarmers>	oh
[01:22:25] <Splarka>	yah, then they should rename, mw links in Special:Version should be static
[01:22:25] <Emufarmers>	I don't know if we've ever conclusively decided what to do about long-abandoned extensions
[01:22:26] <Emufarmers>	Especially when the source is missing
[01:22:26] <CIA-78>	03rememberthedot * r49361 10/USERINFO/rememberthedot: Added my USERINFO file
[01:43:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Monobook crashes MediaWiki after click on "Login/Create an Account link" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18173  (10safemailto-mediawiki)
[03:02:50] <puzzlet>	is there any javascript implementation to "fold" list items?
[03:03:49] <Splarka>	<li> lists?
[03:04:17] <puzzlet>	yes
[03:04:50] <Splarka>	hmm, there is enhanced recent changes...
[03:06:18] <Splarka>	and I wrote one for portlets once, hmm
[03:45:18] *Splarka 	wonders what Sunny_chan_465 is doing
[04:17:40] <puzzlet>	enhanced recent changes, i should've got to it before asking
[04:17:41] <puzzlet>	thx
[04:19:20] <puzzlet>	i mean, thx Splarka
[04:19:27] <puzzlet>	:)
[04:19:38] <Splarka>	rar?
[06:25:58] <hangfromthefloor>	Hey guys. My wiki "has a problem". It says, 'Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Can't contact the database server: MySQL functions missing, have you compiled PHP with the --with-mysql option? )' What can I do to fix this?
[06:26:20] <hangfromthefloor>	I recently changed the directory structure of my server; could this be a problem?
[06:27:41] <GerardM->	yes
[06:28:17] <hangfromthefloor>	Outside of the mediawiki software, though
[06:28:41] <hangfromthefloor>	I mean, I just moved the entire folder
[06:34:10] <br_>	Hi all. I'm considering using Mediawiki for a project and have a handful of technical questions. They're mostly along the lines of "what's the best way to..." and are probably best dealt with via email. Would somebody here be willing to field them?
[06:37:04] <OverlordQ>	hangfromthefloor: what'd you change exactly?
[06:37:25] <hangfromthefloor>	I really didn't do much. I changed my server directory from \www
[06:37:29] <hangfromthefloor>	to \www\htdocs
[06:37:38] <hangfromthefloor>	i.e., moved everything to htdocs
[06:38:09] <OverlordQ>	br_: how many is a handful?
[06:38:50] <OverlordQ>	hangfromthefloor: Odd, no clue.
[06:39:10] <hangfromthefloor>	The server was shut off during a power outage as well
[06:39:18] <hangfromthefloor>	but it seemed to work perfectly immediately after
[06:39:27] <hangfromthefloor>	so I didn't suspect that
[06:42:14] <br_>	\msg OverlordQ a "longish" email
[06:42:40] <br_>	doh
[06:44:30] <br_>	irc is hard
[06:45:30] <hangfromthefloor>	br_: Forward slash
[06:54:57] <hangfromthefloor>	Okay this is really weird
[06:55:06] <hangfromthefloor>	PHP apparently doesn't have any of the MySQL functions
[06:55:16] <hangfromthefloor>	it all worked this morning 
[06:56:58] <br_>	Would it be totally obnoxious for me to drop my "longish email" on the developer's mailing list?
[06:58:23] <OverlordQ>	you probably want mediawiki-l
[06:58:24] <hangfromthefloor>	all of my MySQL DLLs are GONE
[06:58:48] <hangfromthefloor>	WTF
[07:43:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Date in occitan - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18308  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:52:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create approved Finnish Wikiversity [fi] (January 2009) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16977  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:14:07] <Norsys>	Hello!
[09:23:47] <Brucevdk>	Hi, Wikipedia etc. allows you to render SVGs for a particular size by changing the px bit in the URL. I'm trying to figure out how to enable that on a local MediaWiki installation, any hints?
[09:24:51] <Brucevdk>	Currently the pre-defined sizes (e.g. 120px) also look quite ugly for SVG resizing
[09:25:05] <p858snake>	!svg | Brucevdk
[09:25:05] --mwbot--	Brucevdk: For more information regarding SVGs in MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SVG>.
[09:25:10] <p858snake>	try looking at that
[09:25:16] <Brucevdk>	p858snake: thanks
[09:34:52] <Brucevdk>	p858snake: thanks, changing the image converter results in nicer images (the 120px and 48px are still cached) but this doesn't actually allow you to change the px value in the URL. This is sufficient, but I'm still wondering how that behavior can be easily configured :-)
[09:37:50] <OverlordQ>	url rewriting and the thumbnail script
[09:40:52] <OverlordQ>	(I think)
[09:43:25] <Brucevdk>	OverlordQ: alright, I'll look into it if I really need it
[09:51:53] <kraut>	moin
[10:49:37] <str4nd>	Please tell me why this doesn't work: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hiekkalaatikko (see http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Hiekkalaatikko )
[10:53:25] <skapism>	hello. I use mediawiki in a way that very heavily relies on namespace-divided templating, and I have two questions. First, why does the content that goes through the template not appear in my searches (even if I check the namespace box before search)?
[10:53:50] <skapism>	and second, if there's an extension to ease searching through templates
[10:53:54] <str4nd>	ah, #tag, nvm then
[10:55:22] <skapism>	I mean, my first problem is that since all the pages in a certain namespace use a stock template, and almost all the content is presented through that template, it results in no data that's searchable
[10:56:02] <skapism>	however, if I add text outside the template on any given page, it's searchable for some reason
[10:57:35] <rainman-sr>	yeah, common complain.. unfortonately mw search has been designed from start to search only wikitext and not html you see
[10:57:49] <rainman-sr>	there is no way around it
[10:58:21] <skapism>	and everything that goes into the template is pregenerated as text and is not considered wikitext?
[11:00:14] <rainman-sr>	wikitext is what you see when you hit "edit" on your article and only that is searched
[11:00:32] <skapism>	hm, right
[11:00:40] <rainman-sr>	so you should be able to search for template parameters for instance
[11:00:47] <rainman-sr>	but not the content that is added from a template
[11:01:01] <skapism>	but that is still weird.
[11:01:31] <skapism>	since I have in my template, value#1=content#1. and then content#1 is presented in some manner
[11:01:51] <skapism>	so it appears both when I edit the page, and on the page itself
[11:02:00] <skapism>	still, that content is not searchable
[11:02:01] <rainman-sr>	right, then it should be searchable
[11:02:10] <skapism>	hm
[11:02:19] <rainman-sr>	do you have link to wiki?
[11:03:03] <skapism>	rainman-sr: http://wiki.razda.net/KJ:%E4%BA%BA
[11:03:17] <skapism>	that's a page that could serve as an example
[11:04:29] <rainman-sr>	hmmz, looks pretty broken
[11:04:42] <skapism>	the search_
[11:04:43] <skapism>	?
[11:04:47] <rainman-sr>	i assume you fixed the short keyword issue?
[11:05:09] <skapism>	hm, what keyword issue?
[11:06:21] <rainman-sr>	skapism, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ#.E2.80.A6is_a_search_for_a_short_keyword_giving_no_hits.3F
[11:06:48] <skapism>	oh right
[11:06:53] <rainman-sr>	in any case, i would recommend trying an alternative search engine, like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SphinxSearch
[11:07:13] <skapism>	oh, this is what I was looking for
[11:09:22] <rainman-sr>	you could also try http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lucene-search but that's really geared towards very large sites, so unless you have a dedicated search server and expect lots of searches per second you should go with sphinx
[11:09:54] <skapism>	I wonder how I'd get to install those two without root access XD
[11:10:30] <skapism>	I've been mostly emulating a shell with php when I needed it, but I wonder if it'd work with compiling
[11:10:38] <skapism>	maybe with --prefix
[11:13:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page shown as draft after being sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18419  (10zolithemexican)
[11:51:46] <Schiz0|SD>	What's the better way to cache MediaWiki, using Memcached or XCache?
[11:51:58] <Schiz0|SD>	I currently use both for the site I run, so I have the choice for the wiki
[11:52:11] <Schiz0|SD>	It's a single server/instance, not a cluster
[11:54:45] <rainman_>	aren't they caching different things? e.g. memcached objects, and xcache php bytecode?
[11:55:40] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49362 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SkinTemplate.php: Removed double global declaration of $wgLang in SkinTemplate::outputPage()
[11:55:43] <rainman_>	in any case i would assume you don't really need memcached on a smaller wiki
[11:55:44] <Schiz0|SD>	xcache also has a var cache
[11:56:02] <ialex>	Schiz0|SD: if you are on a single server, use XCache
[11:56:08] <Schiz0|SD>	ok, thanks
[11:56:25] <rainman_>	can mw even use xcache to store objects?
[11:56:30] <ialex>	yes
[11:57:35] <Schiz0|SD>	hm, the installer script doesn't like my db :-\
[11:57:45] <Schiz0|SD>	It can connect using unix sockets, right?
[11:57:53] <Schiz0|SD>	if I specify "localhost" as the hostname
[11:57:55] <ialex>	rainman_: APC, Turck MMCache, eAccel and XCache
[11:58:49] *rainman_ 	looks at objectcache.php
[12:00:24] <ialex>	Schiz0|SD: if it doesn't like sockets, use 127.0.0.1
[12:00:38] <rainman_>	ialex, btw should've come to the conference
[12:01:01] <ialex>	rainman_: not enough time
[12:01:07] <ialex>	that week-end
[12:04:40] <rainman_>	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMCON_2009_-_Survey_developers_radar_around_the_conf.svg <- i like how "informal discussion" got best scores here :)
[12:42:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The upload form only checks upload_max_filesize, not post_max_size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18411   +patch (10ste.coda)
[12:53:38] <KennyMan616>	Stupid wireless...
[13:14:51] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Category unfolding doesn't work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18382  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[13:15:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CategoryTree js-generated expand links always hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18203  +comment (10paul.copperman)
[13:29:30] <CIA-78>	03tstarling * r49363 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/includes/Page.php: Implemented uselang parameter, use the fallback sequence from the messages files.
[13:37:16] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Update config of FlaggedRevs for en.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18421 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (darklama)
[13:38:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Update config of FlaggedRevs for en.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18421   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[14:00:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OpenId extension is not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17805  +comment (10sergey.chernyshev)
[14:04:16] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49364 10/branches/preferences-work/phase3/includes/ (HTMLForm.php Preferences.php): Fix silly validation errors and fatals
[14:06:12] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49365 10/USERINFO/rememberthedot: eol-style
[14:10:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create a two-link QueryCache table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7311  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:13:15] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Introduce {{NUMBEROFINTERWIKIS}} magic word - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6548  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:14:15] <werdna>	big commit yay
[14:14:17] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49366 10/branches/preferences-work/phase3/languages/messages/ (203 files): Rename some messages to make them displayable as tab titles on preferences.
[14:14:50] <werdna>	andrew-macbook:messages andrew$ sed -Eie "s/^'textboxsize'/'prefs-editing'/g" Messages*.php 
[14:14:54] <werdna>	damn I love that command
[14:15:55] <^demon>	werdna: I haven't looked at your branch yet. How easy is it to now add/remove preferences?
[14:17:34] <werdna>	pretty damn simple
[14:17:34] <werdna>	add to Preferences.php
[14:18:00] <CIA-78>	03sergeychernyshev * r49367 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/README: Added instructions to set $wgDBprefix when creating tables for OpenID extension.
[14:18:07] <^demon>	yay.
[14:18:30] <werdna>	$pdefaultPreferences['prefname'] = array( 'type' => 'toggle', 'section' =-> 'misc', 'label-message' = 'pC );ref-mypref'
[14:18:41] <werdna>	done :))
[14:18:44] <werdna>	stab stab stab
[14:19:07] <werdna>	fucking lag...
[14:19:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OpenID consumer.php broken when database table prefix set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8361  +comment (10sergey.chernyshev)
[14:19:32] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Articles partly disappearing. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7363  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:20:12] <Brucevdk>	Question, I've been using MediaWiki for quite some time already for shared internal wikis but I just don't understand precisely how to organize content properly without namespaces/directories/hierarchical categorization. Is it just me?
[14:20:41] <flyingparchment>	Brucevdk: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories
[14:20:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:OpenIDLogin should remember user's OpenID URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18422 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenID; (sergey.chernyshev)
[14:20:57] <Brucevdk>	flyingparchment: yeah, it's precisely categories I just can't seem to use.
[14:21:50] <Brucevdk>	flyingparchment: I tend to want to organize content by using URLs like this: Projects/some_project/foo/some_interesting_title
[14:22:02] <flyingparchment>	Brucevdk: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Subpages
[14:22:31] <Brucevdk>	flyingparchment: hmm interesting
[14:22:56] <^demon>	What's Sergey's IRC nick?
[14:23:04] <CIA-78>	03ashley * r49368 10/trunk/extensions/RandomUsersWithAvatars/ (RandomUsersWithAvatars.i18n.php RandomUsersWithAvatars.php): RandomUsersWithAvatars: cleanup, fix profiling and add doxygen comments
[14:25:44] <Brucevdk>	flyingparchment: should this do something special with the title?
[14:26:01] <flyingparchment>	you need to enable it first, then it puts breadcrumbs at the top of the page
[14:27:29] <Brucevdk>	flyingparchment: do I need to do more than set $wgNamespacesWithSubpages?
[14:27:34] <flyingparchment>	no
[14:27:41] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49369 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Wiki.php): (bug 7830) Pending transactions failed to commit on loginToUse() error
[14:27:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Pending Transactions fail to commit on error page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7830  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:27:54] <Brucevdk>	hmm, doesn't seem to work...
[14:28:08] <flyingparchment>	what did you set it to?
[14:28:10] <Brucevdk>	It doesn't even seem to work for user pages
[14:28:14] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Pending Transactions fail to commit on error page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7830  (10innocentkiller)
[14:28:28] <Brucevdk>	$wgNamespacesWithSubpages = array_fill(0, 200, true); -- to enable it for at least 200 namespaces
[14:29:54] <Brucevdk>	oh, it seems it was conflucting with another extension
[14:30:39] <Brucevdk>	I think
[14:32:52] <Brucevdk>	Yes, looks like it's working now. flyingparchment: you know if there's an easy way to not show everything before the last / in the title?
[14:34:05] <Brucevdk>	I wonder how this will work with SMW
[14:42:29] <stwalkerster_>	werdna: any idea why wfMsg( 'abuselog' )  would be returning "<abuselog>" ?
[14:42:38] <stwalkerster_>	(or have I made an epic mistake?)
[14:46:40] <werdna>	wfLoadExtensionMessages( 'AbuseFilter' )
[14:47:33] <stwalkerster_>	Thank you :)
[14:51:38] <Nikerabbit>	hello
[14:53:45] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49370 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:53:45] <CIA-78>	(bugs 11381, 11613) Session.save_handler issues:
[14:53:45] <CIA-78>	* Added a new config variable, $wgSessionHandler to control what value the save_handler is set to
[14:53:45] <CIA-78>	* Setting to null allows you to disable setting it entirely, which was the primary complaint of the two bugs, but it also allows you to set it to whatever you'd like
[14:53:55] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Supress error in GlobalFunctions.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11381  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:53:59] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) session.save_handler being over-ridden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11613  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:56:58] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Global WhatLinksHere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12830  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:57:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) interwiki "links to" / whatlinkshere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1886  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[15:00:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add link to filtered Abuse filter log on Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18423 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (stwalkerster)
[15:08:51] <^demon>	Oooh, bug 18356 looks fun :)
[15:09:46] <stwalkerster_>	hehe
[15:13:21] <CIA-78>	03werdna * r49371 10/branches/preferences-work/phase3/includes/ (Preferences.php specials/SpecialPreferences.php): Add anon, readonly checks
[15:17:42] <CIA-78>	03sergeychernyshev * r49372 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/README: Updated installations documentation for OpenID extension for users to use update.php instead of manual upgrade of the database.
[15:37:25] <Annelie>	Hi, Can anyone help me with the "rss for recent changes" extention?
[15:40:46] <flyingparchment>	why would you need an extension for that?
[15:45:50] <Annelie>	My rss feed only work form changes to the main page currently, can I cahnge that without the extension?
[15:48:25] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49373 10/trunk/phase3/skins/MonoBook.php: We already have that in $this->data['userlang'], don't need to get it from $wgLang
[16:02:02] <CIA-78>	03tstarling * r49374 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/includes/ListPage.php: Table prefix support.
[16:08:51] <Handcrafted>	Hell
[16:08:54] <Handcrafted>	Hello
[16:08:56] <Handcrafted>	Whoops
[16:09:48] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) OpenID consumer.php broken when database table prefix set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8361  +comment (10sergey.chernyshev)
[16:09:52] <Handcrafted>	Is there a way to make pages that can not be seen by all users (Only a few people whould be able to see and edit them)
[16:10:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support multiple OpenID URLs for a user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17632  normal->high (10sergey.chernyshev)
[16:13:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make automatic creation of the user on OpenID login optional - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17654  (10sergey.chernyshev)
[16:13:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support multiple OpenID URLs for a user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17632  (10sergey.chernyshev)
[16:15:05] <ialex>	Handcrafted: all pages or only some pages?
[16:20:21] <Handcrafted>	ialex: Only some pages
[16:20:32] <Handcrafted>	I've found something called Hidden Pages
[16:21:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images can't have far future expires - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17577  (10sergey.chernyshev)
[16:21:50] <ialex>	Handcrafted: hiding only some pages is not well supported by MediaWiki
[16:22:56] <Guest88015>	exit
[16:26:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Spesial:AddData for deleted pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18198  summary (10sergey.chernyshev)
[16:39:14] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49375 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/includes/Auth.php: Pass $election autoLogin() to avoid fatal errors
[16:43:57] <^demon>	ialex: I thought that was a typo in your commit msg...but no, it really is $election :)
[16:44:21] <ialex>	^demon: :D
[16:45:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:PrefixIndex has inconsistent (and tiny) page navigation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18424 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (artificial)
[17:44:27] <Annelie>	Can anyone help me make an rss feed that show the lastest changes to the whole wiki?
[17:45:26] <Nikerabbit>	what is wrong with the rss feed from special:recentchanges?
[17:57:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deleted Redirects still showing up. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18402  (10si.wikibug)
[18:01:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Warning instead of error message when category does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18425 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (jeff.cropp)
[18:01:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deleted Redirects still showing up. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18402  (10si.wikibug)
[18:17:01] <Nikerabbit>	Annelie: please use the channel
[18:18:16] <Annelie>	ok. I cannot get the rss:recent changes to work, I have installed the 3 files and put the in the line that should be in the local setting file, but I dont know how to "call" for it
[18:18:27] <Nikerabbit>	wtf
[18:18:33] <Nikerabbit>	you do not have to install anything
[18:18:53] <Nikerabbit>	go to special:recentchanges and take the rss link from toolbox
[18:18:58] <Nikerabbit>	Splarka can help you further
[18:19:53] <Annelie>	but that rss is only showing the recent changes for the main page, and I want to have for all the pages, isnt that possible?
[18:21:42] <Nikerabbit>	you took the wrong feed? see for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&feed=rss 
[18:21:59] *Splarka 	blinks sleepily
[18:22:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add oasis opendocument and oo.o legacy document to mime.types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17497  summary (10anon.hui)
[18:22:24] <Splarka>	ialex: Sunny chan 465, noob or troll? heh
[18:23:42] <ialex>	Splarka: also see its first contribs of Project:Administrators...
[18:24:03] <ialex>	*on
[18:24:43] <Wolle>	i still get the problem with the title of a special page --> &lt;Title&gt; <-- what i'm doing wrong or better how do i have to define the title of a special page?
[18:24:58] <Annelie>	I can only see one rss - feed and that is the only mainpage one?
[18:25:01] <Splarka>	ialex: so why not block?
[18:25:19] <ialex>	Wolle: you need to create a new message
[18:25:34] <ialex>	Splarka: you can do it, but I won't
[18:26:17] <ialex>	Wolle: if your page is Special:Title, the you need to create a 'title' message
[18:26:28] <ialex>	*then
[18:26:37] <Wolle>	ialex i've tried already but it only display's what i define in the __construct as $this->mName if i don't set this it tells me invalid name ""
[18:26:38] <Splarka>	ialex: March 22 predates my rape-sysopping, I'd have to wait for them to do something newly offensive
[18:27:50] <ialex>	Wolle: what is your code?
[18:28:09] <Splarka>	Annelie: are you using an rss extension? (per "I have installed the 3 files")
[18:29:10] <Annelie>	I was trying to install one today because the basic one is only showing content from the main page, but I have not found the "code" to call that extension yet.
[18:29:59] <Splarka>	hmm, do you have edits in your recent changes table, to pages other than the main page?
[18:30:12] <Splarka>	and/or, is your wiki read-protected?
[18:30:31] <Annelie>	the problem could be that on recent changes is says "show no bots" and most changes from bots currently. Can I change that preference somewhere?
[18:31:08] <Annelie>	in my recent change page I can se other changes if i press "show bots" but I cannot save that setting
[18:31:27] <Annelie>	I dont know what it means to have it read-protected
[18:31:32] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: did you ever get your answer per url thumbnail generation? Wikimedia uses a <s>hack</s> trick, it rewrites image server 404s to thumb.php
[18:32:04] <Splarka>	Annelie: ah, the default recent changes rss has very few options IIRC, and showing bot edits isn't one of them (again IIRC)
[18:32:17] <Wolle>	ialex e.g. i want to create a Specialpage:Title now i've created a message 'Title' => 'Title'? ...that's what i've done now, but it won't work
[18:32:19] <Splarka>	try a non-bot edit to another page, see if it shows up
[18:32:45] <ialex>	Wolle: you need a lowercase for the first letter
[18:33:07] <Splarka>	silly message system, heh
[18:33:11] <Annelie>	if I would install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RSS_feed_for_recent_changes will I be able to see them then?
[18:33:25] <Wolle>	doesn't change anything --> Invalid special page name ""
[18:33:53] <ialex>	Wolle: can you paste your whole code in a pastebin?
[18:34:02] <Splarka>	Annelie: I don't see a bot option there...
[18:35:15] <Wolle>	ialex i can but couldn't you just tell me how to get the name from title.i18n.php to the title.body.php?
[18:36:29] <ialex>	Wolle: wfLoadExtensionMessages( 'Title' ); if you registred it in $wgExtensionMessagesFiles['Title'] = "/path/to/Title.i18n.php";
[18:40:36] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: no I didn't actually have a dire need for it, but thanks for the info, sounds easy enough to do.
[18:41:21] <Annelie>	Splarka thank you for your help, I will make future changes from non-bots
[18:41:52] <Splarka>	Annelie: no prob, remember that +bot flag isn't for bots, it is for hiding spammy edits, it is badly named ^_^
[18:42:11] <Annelie>	Ah.. Got it!
[18:42:27] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: thumbnails generally aren't generated unless requested by the mediawiki software, via [[File:]] or via iithumb in the api
[18:42:42] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: yes, I noticed that :-)
[18:42:42] <Wolle>	ialex --> Invalid special page name "" - just a moment i paste the code
[18:43:14] <Splarka>	bruce: using the trick is a possible DOS vector, though if it becomes a prob you can probably just block the offenders
[18:43:15] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: which was also a little bit problematic because I deleted images/thumb/* and was using clickpic with direct links 
[18:43:32] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: it's an internal wiki anyways
[18:43:32] <Splarka>	there was even one case where a website was hotlinking thumbs from WMF and affecting hardware, so they had to block the referer
[18:43:43] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49376 10/trunk/extensions/Farmer/ (6 files): (log message trimmed)
[18:43:43] <CIA-78>	Changes to Farmer extension:
[18:43:43] <CIA-78>	* Allow to store configuration in a database rather than in files. The database
[18:43:44] <CIA-78>	name can be configured in $wgFarmerSettings['databaseName'], if set to null
[18:43:44] <CIA-78>	(default value) it will fall back the file storage. Currently there is no
[18:43:44] <CIA-78>	possibiliy to migrate from files to database.
[18:43:45] <Splarka>	ahh, no prob then, heh
[18:43:48] <CIA-78>	* Added a callback function in $wgFarmerSettings['initCallback'] which is called when a wiki is completely loaded
[18:44:09] <Splarka>	thumb.php is pretty dumb, only takes two or three parameters
[18:44:56] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: as long as one of them is the dimensions we're all set ;-)
[18:45:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) The customized mime.types file should be separated from the initial file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18426 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (anon.hui)
[18:45:57] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/thumb.php?f=Wiki.png&w=5px
[18:46:36] <Wolle>	ialex http://rafb.net/p/ZEXvu570.html
[18:48:03] <ialex>	Wolle: first you need to pass the special page's name to parent constructor: parent::__construct( 'Formularcenter' );
[18:48:40] <ialex>	Wolle: you also need to override parent's execute() method in class fc 
[18:49:18] <ialex>	Wolle: and always put english messages in internationalization file
[18:49:56] <Wolle>	ialex thx it works
[18:50:42] <Wolle>	english messages? even if i want distribute it?
[18:50:51] <Wolle>	*+don't*
[18:51:03] <ialex>	Wolle: this is better yes
[18:51:47] <Wolle>	ialex is it depending to the language settings of the browser?
[18:52:01] <CIA-78>	03ialex * r49377 10/trunk/extensions/Farmer/farmer.sql: better to use /*$wgDBTableOptions*/ rather than hardcoded values :)
[18:52:01] <ialex>	Wolle: no, your preferences
[18:53:51] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: "you know if there's an easy way to not show everything before the last / in the title?", you want to only breadcrumb up one level? or do you mean in the <h1> and <title> ?
[18:55:09] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: oh yeah, I forgot all about that (I'm switching betwen things :-) actually turns out I actually need it to be a lot more, I'm talking about <h1> (firstHeading) yes but also the page index on Category: and everywhere else (that's also why I wonder how SMW will handle this in their displaying of queries)
[18:55:42] <Splarka>	ahh, right, well using subpaging, the title is the whole path
[18:55:48] <Splarka>	it probably isn't ideal for you
[18:56:04] <Splarka>	there are some tricks to hide bits of it, but not everywhere
[18:56:08] <Wolle>	ok, then i have another question: i'm looking for an extension which let's the user post outgoing links but before the edited vresion is going public it should be reviewed by a sysop - is such an extension existing? or can i do this with "After Edit" 
[18:56:22] <Splarka>	Wolle: flagged revisions maybe
[18:56:33] <Splarka>	though that is a bit overkill
[18:56:48] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: sorry, looked like my IRC client segfaulted
[18:56:59] <Annelie>	Splarka: I cannot seem to change the amount of days that the recent changes are saved?
[18:57:00] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20090410.txt  log of this chan, heh
[18:57:09] <Splarka>	(for what you missed)
[18:57:14] <Splarka>	Annelie: for the RSS or in general?
[18:57:29] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: looks like I had everything :-)
[18:57:30] <Annelie>	Splarka: both
[18:57:46] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: anyhoo, uhm, I'm not sure if this is a conceptual thing, but I just don't like the non-hierarchical organization MediaWiki has. 
[18:58:13] <Splarka>	Wolle: flagged revisions prevents all non-sysops (if you so wish) from being able to edit the 'top' version of the Article, they can edit future versions but they must be approved to show up as the default view (people can still see them via action=history and such, so it is all transparent)
[18:58:19] <Annelie>	Splarka: when I press search in the recent changes after changing the prefences I cannot see it, and when I go to prefrences and try to save the amount of dates changes it does not save
[18:58:25] <xerophyte>	how can setup permisison so anonymouse user can not see the MediaWiki:Sidebar ..i have $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; but they are able to see the sidebar .. how can restirct that?
[18:59:02] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: it is pretty flat, except for the category hierarchy, check out the category tree on en.wp maybe
[18:59:44] <Splarka>	xerophyte: you can't really, bit annoying, the sidebar is part of the UI... you could generate additional sidebar via javascript though
[19:00:03] <Splarka>	Annelie: so you click on 'show 30 days' and it doesn't show any more than what you see by the default view?
[19:00:18] <Annelie>	Splarka: exaclty
[19:00:38] <Wolle>	Splarka it's really a bit of overkill - i only need this when links where posted (because of spam) and then i never will make such links public not default view nor over history
[19:01:37] <xerophyte>	Splarka: hmmm that sucks ;( 
[19:01:42] <Splarka>	Wolle: there are captchas but those are just for defeating spambots (somewhat) I don't know of any extension that requires approval of just a few types edits, without massive overkill (patrolled edits, abuse filter)
[19:01:45] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: even though I've been using mw for a while it seems I still have a lot to learn. I think I might be able to use categories effectively, but it's too bad that the URLs won't depict the categorization properly (but maybe that's just something I need to get over).
[19:02:38] <Splarka>	Bruce: with categories you can go multi-parentical and cross-index nicely, hard to do with subpaging-type title paths
[19:02:58] <Splarka>	though I don't know how you'd do them in the URL either, maybe as a parameter...
[19:03:21] <Splarka>	/wiki/Foo?categories=Bar/Baz/Baf... bit ugly, heh
[19:03:46] <Wolle>	hm ok splarka at the moment captchas and flagged revision are overkill but maybe in the future i'll need them...for now i could delete the spammed pages by hand which appear once a month ;)
[19:04:10] <Brucevdk>	Splarka: still the whole issue with differentiating between different pages comes up, e.g. the whole "John Doe (FBI agent)" thing 
[19:04:14] <hollman>	hello all, exist a #channel of mediawiki in spanish ??
[19:04:27] <Splarka>	Brucevdk: yah, ambiguation sucks
[19:05:14] <Splarka>	Annelie: you might be able to increase $wgRCMaxAge but your symptoms sound odd
[19:05:25] <Splarka>	rar roan
[19:05:43] <Annelie>	Splarka: in what file do I change that?
[19:05:49] <RoanKattouw>	Hey Splarka 
[19:05:52] <Splarka>	LocalSettings.php
[19:05:54] <Brucevdk>	I think I'm going to go with a WP style flat URL structure with a proper categorization schema, looks like that's just how mw works best
[19:06:12] <Splarka>	hey roan, I gots a question, how come there isn't a &format=rss output format for the api for other than the watchlist? or is there and I am blind?
[19:06:34] <RoanKattouw>	!b 17872 | Splarka 
[19:06:34] --mwbot--	Splarka: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17872
[19:06:34] <Splarka>	Annelie: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRCMaxAge
[19:07:00] <Splarka>	heh, k
[19:07:16] <Splarka>	it seems a common enough request, since the default rc rss sucks ass
[19:07:39] <buzz_>	greetings RoanKattouw 
[19:07:45] <RoanKattouw>	Hi buzz_ 
[19:07:50] <Annelie>	Splarka: thank you will try
[19:08:12] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: Yeah, similar to export we should be able to RSS arbitrary stuff, not just watchlists and rc
[19:08:13] <Splarka>	also, looking at the summary (comment) parser in Linker.php, I am having second thoughts that it would be a good API feature, it is horrible hacky code
[19:08:34] <Splarka>	(.... as if the rest of mediawiki wasn't... )
[19:08:57] <RoanKattouw>	heh
[19:09:06] <RoanKattouw>	Well that in itself is not a reason not to have an API interface
[19:09:14] <Splarka>	damn
[19:09:18] <Splarka>	well, maybe I will open a bug
[19:09:27] <RoanKattouw>	As long as the code can be called in a sane way, I don't really care much how ugly it is internally
[19:09:42] <RoanKattouw>	But of course horrible hackiness should be fixed, yeah
[19:10:33] <Splarka>	probably have two ways to call it: &action=parse&text/title/page and then &summary= would output that into <summary>...
[19:10:52] <Nikerabbit>	hi RoanKattouw
[19:10:59] <RoanKattouw>	Hi Nikerabbit 
[19:11:01] <Splarka>	and then for anything that returned the comment of an edit/upload/logaction, have something like &rvparsecomment
[19:11:14] <Splarka>	which would return the comment as rendered html rather than raw semiwikicode
[19:11:16] <Nikerabbit>	anything new in gsoc?
[19:11:42] <RoanKattouw>	Nikerabbit: Preliminary slot allocations (i.e. number of students per organization) were published today
[19:11:44] <Splarka>	problem is, internally it is always called 'comment', but that is confusing with html comments, and in the UI it is almost always called the 'summary'
[19:12:10] <RoanKattouw>	MediaWiki got 6 slots in that list (disclaimer: not definitive in any way, etc.), but I'm not sure we wanna use all 6
[19:12:49] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: Please file a bug for the summary parse thing
[19:13:10] <Splarka>	Roan: yes yes, broken record
[19:13:22] <Splarka>	I just wanted to discuss it first before it goes all WONTFIXy ^_^
[19:13:46] <RoanKattouw>	Sure :P I think this is a good feature to have though
[19:13:55] <RoanKattouw>	For instance for creating alternative RC interfaces
[19:14:23] *Splarka 	nods
[19:14:57] <Splarka>	would you support inline parsing? like http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Foobar with &rvparsecomment
[19:15:09] <Splarka>	would save a lot of backqueries anyways
[19:15:14] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah, that'd make sense, we have &rvexpandtemplates already
[19:15:19] <Splarka>	k
[19:15:29] <Splarka>	you'd probably wanna spit out a second parameter there, like...
[19:15:46] <Splarka>	comment="/* Examples */ capitalization" summary="HTML HERE"
[19:15:47] <xerophyte>	can i use the .htpasswd access to mediawiki .. i mean if i have htaccess users authenticated can the media wiki understand it .. currently i i have to login to two times htaccess and them media wiki
[19:15:51] <RoanKattouw>	And parsing summaries is probably pretty lightweight compared to expanding templates
[19:16:17] <RoanKattouw>	xerophyte: So don't use .htaccess ;) and read-restrict your wiki
[19:17:17] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: I probably want something like parsedcomment there; although summary is arguably a better term, the distinction between comment and summary is far from obvious (and the choice of putting the HTML in summary rather than comment seems kind of arbitrary)
[19:17:23] <xerophyte>	RoanKattouw: i love to :) i have  $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; but you can see the SideBar .. i don't want anonymous user to see the sidebar .so i put htaccess
[19:17:37] <RoanKattouw>	Right
[19:17:54] <RoanKattouw>	Hmm, maybe there's an AuthPlugin for that...
[19:18:03] <xerophyte>	RoanKattouw: is there any better way to hide the sidebar for anonymous user
[19:18:35] <Splarka>	Roan: sadly you're right, it just seemed so clever
[19:19:10] <RoanKattouw>	xerophyte: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HttpAuth
[19:19:47] <RoanKattouw>	xerophyte: Note that installation is slightly different for MW 1.13+, see the "Attention" section
[19:20:41] <Splarka>	how do you reference a remote function in PHP again? Linker::formatComment for Linker.php function formatComment() ?
[19:20:53] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: If it's static, yes
[19:20:54] <Splarka>	(I mean, in pseudocode, not actually reference it)
[19:20:58] <Splarka>	k
[19:21:01] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah, that's the syntax
[19:27:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Comment (edit summary) parser option for API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18427 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (herd)
[19:28:09] <Splarka>	RoanKattouw^
[19:29:52] <Splarka>	heh "and may harm accessibility" -> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18424
[19:29:57] <Splarka>	the internet harms accessability!
[19:30:07] <Splarka>	people having eyes harms accessability for people without
[19:30:12] *Splarka 	gets the spork and fixes that
[19:47:17] <hangfromthefloor>	My wiki gives me this error: (Can't contact the database server: MySQL functions missing, have you compiled PHP with the --with-mysql option?). Upon further inspection, many MySQL files were missing from the server. How can I fix this?
[19:47:46] <hangfromthefloor>	Should I reinstall MySQL? I know it works fine by itself because I can log into the databases.
[19:47:57] <RoanKattouw>	No, you should reinstall PHP
[19:48:04] <RoanKattouw>	It doesn't have the MySQL module installed
[19:48:26] <RoanKattouw>	Note that MySQL support is not enabled by default during install, you have to explicitly enable it
[19:48:26] <hangfromthefloor>	Wil EasyPHP do that for me?
[19:48:33] <RoanKattouw>	No idea
[19:48:38] <hangfromthefloor>	It's very weird because it worked fine yesterday
[19:48:42] <hangfromthefloor>	Before a power outage
[19:49:38] <hangfromthefloor>	Okay thank you :)
[19:59:31] <Duesentrieb>	hangfromthefloor: chances are, something changed (broke) a while back, but didn't take effect, because apache wasn't restarted. now it was.
[19:59:46] <Duesentrieb>	hangfromthefloor: basically, your php and/or apache setup are broken or incomplete.
[19:59:56] <xerophyte>	is there anyway i can delete users and there pages,safely .. i installed mediawiki and lett alone with some permission setup now i see around 4000 users and spam pages.. how can clean them 
[20:00:26] <hangfromthefloor>	Duesentrieb: That makes sense. What should be backed up, reinstalled, etc.
[20:01:11] <Betacommand>	xerophyte: what do you mean?
[20:01:26] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49378 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (bug 18361) Suppression log should be in the UI language, not content language
[20:01:33] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Suppression log should be in the UI language, not content language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18361  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:01:52] <xerophyte>	Betacommand: my wiki install has around 4000+ spam users and spage pages .. how can i clean them i wanna remoe pages and users 
[20:02:19] <Betacommand>	xerophyte: is this a public wiki?
[20:02:25] <Duesentrieb>	hangfromthefloor: php and modules should be reinstalled, especially make sure you have php's mysql module (not mysqli)
[20:02:39] <Duesentrieb>	hangfromthefloor: if you don't admin the box yourself, kick your admin :)
[20:02:43] <RoanKattouw>	Duesentrieb: We have mysqli support these days, right?
[20:02:52] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Actions not really hidden for RevisionDeleted log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18416  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:02:52] <Duesentrieb>	RoanKattouw: do we?
[20:04:01] <RoanKattouw>	Bleh, apparently we don't; I wonder where I got that idea
[20:04:28] <xerophyte>	Betacommand: yes 
[20:04:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:04:47] <Betacommand>	xerophyte: can I get a link to see what your talking about?
[20:04:53] <xerophyte>	Betacommand: i think should have given Autoconfirmed users edit option but i have users .. which allow to spam i guess
[20:05:10] <Betacommand>	xerophyte: I could write a bot for you
[20:06:00] <xerophyte>	Betacommand: ??
[20:06:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  (10mikelifeguard)
[20:06:09] <mattis^>	I wonder if there is list of Mediawikis having the rss extension installed. A clever query finding many of them would be helpful as well.
[20:09:37] <Splarka>	!deleteuser | xerophyte
[20:09:37] --mwbot--	xerophyte: Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser>.  You can also try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete>
[20:10:09] <Splarka>	mattis^: the largest non-farm mediawikis: http://s23.org/wikistats/mediawikis_html.php
[20:10:37] <Splarka>	see http://s23.org/wikistats/ for overview
[20:11:02] *Splarka 	thinks Special:Version should be google-indexable, a google for intitle:Special:Version would be nice
[20:12:53] <xerophyte>	Splarka: hmmm looks like this wiki does not have much content i need to redo the whole stuff i guess
[20:14:55] <OverlordQ>	is there an easy way to diagnose "Import failed: Could not open input file" when trying to transwiki?
[20:15:49] <OverlordQ>	maybe due to a large number of revisions?
[20:17:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18244  (10cenarium.sysop)
[20:18:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:21:28] <ialex>	OverlordQ: maximum execution time for the Special:Export subrequest exceeded
[20:22:27] <ialex>	(due to the revision number)
[20:27:52] <Betacommand>	xerophyte: poke
[20:32:46] <OverlordQ>	ialex: is that a local config I can change?
[20:32:59] <mattis^>	Sparkla thx, I'll search on.
[20:34:11] <hangfromthefloor>	Duesentrieb: Sorry, I missed your response, i got disconnected
[20:34:26] <mattis^>	Splarka sry
[20:34:26] <Duesentrieb>	[22:02] <Duesentrieb> hangfromthefloor: php and modules should be reinstalled, especially make sure you have php's mysql module (not mysqli)
[20:34:28] <Duesentrieb>	[22:02] <Duesentrieb> hangfromthefloor: if you don't admin the box yourself, kick your admin :)
[20:34:29] <Duesentrieb>	[
[20:35:02] <Splarka>	wat
[20:35:11] <Splarka>	oh, misspelling, heh
[20:35:12] <hangfromthefloor>	Thanks! :]
[20:35:15] <Nikerabbit>	hi Duesentrieb
[20:35:42] <ialex>	OverlordQ: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgHTTPTimeout
[20:35:52] <Duesentrieb>	hey Nikerabbit
[20:38:29] <CIA-78>	03aaron * r49379 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: minor style tweaks
[20:39:42] <mattis^>	Duesentrieb, this rss extension thingy kicks, I forgot about it (I had to), wiki-net, bla. It's great!
[20:40:54] <Duesentrieb>	mattis^: uh... well, it works in a way, but it's a bit crude :P
[20:41:12] <Duesentrieb>	mattis^: oh wait... *which* rss extension thingy?
[20:42:36] <mattis^>	the one making http://s23.org/wiki/Feeds/OneBigSoup work.
[20:43:27] <mattis^>	had nice ones on socialbar.de but the nervous admin deleted them.
[20:43:56] <mattis^>	Feeds can penetrate
[20:46:29] <mattis^>	a list of Mediawiks with the rss extention installed to penetrate would be very appreciated.
[20:49:57] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Usgrant&diff=next&oldid=248989
[20:49:58] <Splarka>	heh
[20:54:11] *OverlordQ 	pokes ^demon
[20:57:08] *^demon 	gets poked
[20:57:13] <^demon>	OverlordQ: What's up?
[20:57:25] *Nikerabbit 	pokes OverlordQ
[20:57:29] *Splarka 	blinks
[20:57:46] <Splarka>	okay... what's wrong with this picture: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site%3Aen.wikipedia.org+intitle%3A%22Meta%22+-intitle%3A%22Wikipedia%22&btnG=Search
[20:57:53] <OverlordQ>	^demon: oh bug #18115 getting the same problem, figured I woudlnt spam bugzilla if you're here :)
[20:58:09] <^demon>	Splarka: hehe
[20:58:32] <^demon>	!b 18115
[20:58:32] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18115
[20:59:00] <Splarka>	> HTTP Status Code: HTTP/1.0 302 Moved Temporarily - Cache-Control: private, s-maxage=0, max-age=0, must-revalidate
[20:59:08] *Splarka 	doesn't think google should index that, but the target
[20:59:10] <OverlordQ>	 THe problem is the is_writable check on line 165, it's using the filename as part of the check, but if it doesn't exist locally yet, it doesn't exist so it will fail. 
[20:59:31] <^demon>	OverlordQ: That might also be the source of some other freakymagic problems I'm getting.
[21:01:34] <Splarka>	eee spooky
[21:01:38] <Da^MsT>	Where can I find an up-to-date doc on skining for 1.14?
[21:01:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Parser Cache's {{SERVER}} becomes "localhost" with maintenance scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18274  (10jidanni)
[21:02:21] <OverlordQ>	so *shrug* on a sane fix, 'cuz it still needs to that folder if it doesn't exist, but the file as well if it does
[21:02:25] <Splarka>	ialex: agreed it needed deleting, but deleting a poor clueless user's userpage sandbox? meanie ^_^
[21:03:07] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=User%3AUsgrant&timestamp=20090410204814&diff=prev   clueless
[21:04:18] <ialex|ghost>	Splarka: sandbox? http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=User%3AUsgrant&timestamp=20090410210001
[21:04:34] <ialex|ghost>	argh
[21:04:44] <Splarka>	yah, I know, still seemed clueless, heh
[21:05:04] <Splarka>	revenge from beyond the grave! ooooOoooooo
[21:05:52] *^demon 	cluebats Nikerabbit
[21:06:00] <Nikerabbit>	why?
[21:06:42] <^demon>	Bug 18274. You mentioned using a hack :p
[21:08:02] <ialex>	Splarka: mw.org is not a repo for this kind of thing
[21:08:20] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: yes, because there is no better way?
[21:08:51] <^demon>	Who said it can't be fixed?
[21:09:06] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: if it is so easy, fix it
[21:11:11] <Nikerabbit>	:o
[21:11:21] <^demon>	Didn't say it was easy :p
[21:11:31] <Nikerabbit>	well, possible
[21:13:34] <^demon>	I'm busy breaking the filerepo.
[21:15:09] <OverlordQ>	:D
[21:15:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Specialpages should not link to the upload form if uploads are disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18409  (10jidanni)
[21:22:21] <^demon>	Yay fixed :)
[21:22:30] <CIA-78>	03nad * r49380 10/trunk/extensions/TreeAndMenu/TreeAndMenu.php: tidy whitespace
[21:24:47] <CIA-78>	03demon * r49381 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/filerepo/ForeignAPIRepo.php): (bug 18115) ForeignAPIRepo cache isn't working, fixed a broken is_writable() call. This also coincidentally fixes bug 17835.
[21:24:50] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) ForeignAPIRepo throwing error on first page load for file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17835  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[21:25:06] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) ForeignAPIRepo cache isn't working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18115  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[21:26:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) tooltip mismatch in diff, zh-tw - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17736  +comment (10jidanni)
[21:27:28] <OverlordQ>	\o/
[21:35:18] <OverlordQ>	heee, gotta love php segfaulting after every maintnence script run
[21:45:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) User Will Not stayed logged in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17790  +comment (10emacabeo)
[21:48:11] <OverlordQ>	!footer
[21:48:11] --mwbot--	For changing the page footer, see the FAQ (!) <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_footer.3F>. More information at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Footer and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning#Footer
[22:29:38] <Preforx>	Hello. One Question. On the Edition page, you do not have many tag options. like size and so one. is there a extension for this?
[22:37:07] *Splarka 	throws http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/ajaxbatchdelete.js at OverlordQ (not the best method, but the laziest)
[22:46:59] <ttyS1>	upgraded to  that
[22:53:11] <Splarka>	dunno then, check all your <script> and find the duplication
[22:54:17] <ttyS1>	ok thanks, I'l try to upgrade to 1.14 instead
[23:03:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Boilerplate text on top of Special:Contributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17849  (10gtisza)
[23:19:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Test implementation of FlaggedRevs for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18334  (10cenarium.sysop)
[23:35:23] <OverlordQ>	Is Tidy still required?
[23:35:49] <Splarka>	it never was
[23:35:54] <Splarka>	but perhaps you wanna be more specific...?
[23:36:07] <Danwe>	Can you recommend me a plugin for MW which highlights the MW syntax in the edit box?
[23:36:17] <OverlordQ>	Well in my local test wiki, the exact same template is spitting out HTML when on enwp/testwp it's working fine
[23:36:28] <OverlordQ>	only difference is that I (dont think) I have tidy running
[23:37:19] <Splarka>	what version are you on? and what is a minimal test case?
[23:37:58] <^demon>	I would love for Tidy to be cut off on WMF wikis.
[23:38:09] <Splarka>	the old parser needed tidy for things like {{#if:1|<div>}}foo{{#if:1|</div>}}
[23:38:15] <^demon>	Would be fun to see how many templates rely on Tidy to display right :p
[23:38:22] <Splarka>	^demon: not that many anymore
[23:38:36] <OverlordQ>	latest svn and http://www.thedarkcitadel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sandbox
[23:38:47] <OverlordQ>	compare with http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sandbox2
[23:38:55] <Splarka>	new parser (well, new preprocessor) allows split html-ish
[23:39:15] <Splarka>	in theory
[23:40:12] <Splarka>	ahh, what that might be suffering from is mixed wikitables/htmltables
[23:40:17] <^demon>	Damn close-this-tab button.
[23:40:28] <OverlordQ>	Splarka: Yea it is mixing, Tidy fixes that I assume?
[23:40:35] <Splarka>	assume nothing
[23:40:50] *Splarka 	looks
[23:41:45] <Splarka>	hmm
[23:42:12] <Splarka>	yah, looks like it might possibly be tidy fixing that up
[23:42:19] <Splarka>	if you're going to use html tables, use all html tables
[23:42:36] <OverlordQ>	I know, I was just shamelessly borrowing from enwp :)
[23:42:41] <Splarka>	lazy, heh
[23:42:51] <Splarka>	note that tidy also cleans up a fun thing...
[23:43:55] *Splarka 	hmms
[23:44:21] <Splarka>	OverlordQ: <table><tr></td></table>
[23:44:26] *OverlordQ 	wonders on how to fix that up to just use wikicode
[23:44:30] <Splarka>	puts the logo in the contents without tidy, heh
[23:44:45] <Splarka>	oh, you'll love that
[23:45:05] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:!
[23:45:15] *Splarka 	updates the usetidy documentation
[23:55:40] <OverlordQ>	oops
[23:55:43] <OverlordQ>	help if I import !