[00:02:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OMG! SVN proxy error in Code Review diff load with [purge] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18482  +comment (10brion)
[00:11:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add --list-authors option to dumpBackup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16082  +comment (10brion)
[00:15:34] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) PATCH: Special:Export: prevent option selector flying back to top of list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18031  +comment (10brion)
[00:18:51] <CIA-15>	03demon * r49543 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialExport.php: Fixed undefined var.
[00:19:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) PATCH: Special:Export: prevent option selector flying back to top of list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18031  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[00:19:53] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49539 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/languages/MV_Messages.php: Fix typo (rest -> reset)
[00:27:31] <guestguest>	does semantic layers work with the latest version of mediawiki / semantic wiki? The mediawiki website says it doens't work after 1.0, but it also says the latest version is 0.2 while infact it is 0.4
[00:30:37] <AaronSchulz>	brion-codereview: r48837 looks fine
[00:31:13] <AaronSchulz>	the previous state was broken, since only one item would go through
[00:31:23] <brion-codereview>	:(
[00:32:03] <AaronSchulz>	the CGI code uses an assoc array, so 'oldid[]' just gets copied over as goes through them
[00:33:05] <Landlord>	http://ihateliz.com/?id=4c9ep64ndpr60kpbtmnpng888m3g4y
[00:33:34] <Marybelle>	Splarka: ^
[00:33:42] <^demon>	AaronSchulz: Oh btw, on r49438 that you tagged fixme....where was the rev in which you removed the patrolled stuff from RC initially?
[00:34:35] <AaronSchulz>	the type list
[00:34:48] <Splarka>	Marybelle: wat?
[00:34:56] <Marybelle>	You're an op or something.
[00:35:13] <Marybelle>	Posting hate links is a rather nasty thing to do.
[00:35:28] <^demon>	AaronSchulz: Where's that at?
[00:35:35] <Splarka>	yah, but they already left
[00:35:46] <Marybelle>	Yes.
[00:38:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Put CodeReview changes in recentchanges table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18481  (10JSchulz_4587)
[00:40:54] <Marybelle>	Heh. Unassigning. 
[00:43:22] *Splarka 	bites AaronSchulz
[00:43:44] <Splarka>	hmm: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:Extensions&diff=249671&oldid=248932
[00:55:58] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49544 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/shared.css: Tweak r48841: use 90% font instead
[01:00:31] <CIA-15>	03shinjiman * r49545 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese
[01:14:35] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49546 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.hooks.php): 
[01:14:35] <CIA-15>	* Made patrol links respect $wgFlaggedRevsPatrolLevel better
[01:14:35] <CIA-15>	* Removed duplicate permission checks
[01:15:28] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49547 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateLinks.inc: lower $BATCH_SIZE
[01:21:51] <chzz>	Hi. Anyone come across this, when editing; "Your edit has been rejected because your client mangled the punctuation characters in the edit token. The edit has been rejected to prevent corruption of the page text. This sometimes happens when you are using a buggy web-based anonymous proxy service."
[01:22:23] <OverlordQ>	are you? and what browser?
[01:22:43] <chzz>	not me, a user I'm trying to help; 
[01:23:28] <chzz>	OverlordQ would you mind joining #wikipedia-en-help for a minute, and I'll explain what's happened on there; the user is there too
[01:24:22] <thedj>	if anyone cares to help testing the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Update_to_popups
[01:24:53] <thedj>	not sure if there are folks with mediawiki installations with API disabled that want to give it a go, i'd welcome the feedback.
[01:26:24] <OverlordQ>	thedj: does it update old urls?
[01:26:34] <OverlordQ>	IE: link to a working editcounter again :D
[01:26:56] <thedj>	no net yet, i'll add that as well. 
[01:29:53] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) English Wikipedia main page image protection issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; (royal_broil)
[01:39:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) English Wikipedia main page image protection issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  +comment (10Prodego)
[01:42:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  summary; +comment (10agarrett)
[01:44:58] <CIA-15>	03shinjiman * r49548 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/SecurePoll.i18n.php: Localisation updates Cantonese for extension messages
[01:50:40] <chuck>	Is there any way to grab the value of another column of the same row in the formatValue function for TablePager?
[01:51:35] <TimStarling>	that's documented
[01:52:03] <Marybelle>	Hey Tim.
[01:52:23] <TimStarling>		 * The current result row is available as $this->mCurrentRow, in case you
[01:52:24] <TimStarling>		 * need more context.
[01:52:38] <TimStarling>	hello
[01:53:48] <chuck>	TimStarling: What's the format of mCurrentRow? object or array?
[01:53:58] <noah>	I'm trying to download the Cite extension for 1.14.x and when I do at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor/Cite I get an error "Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem." 
[01:54:02] <TimStarling>	object
[01:54:18] <TimStarling>	$this->mCurrentRow->some_field
[01:55:51] <werdna>	hello TimStarling 
[01:56:41] <TimStarling>	hi
[01:57:36] <werdna>	back in the correct timezone yet?
[01:57:48] <TimStarling>	not quite
[01:58:52] <TimStarling>	back in 20
[01:59:53] <chuck>	TimStarling: thanks
[02:11:27] <chuck>	Where should I look to learn more about how CodeReview does the little mini snippets of information under the page title heading?
[02:12:15] <Splarka>	the contentSub you mean?
[02:12:26] <chuck>	I'm not sure if that's what it uses
[02:12:34] <chuck>	but maybe
[02:12:52] <chuck>	oh yeah it is
[02:13:44] <Splarka>	$wgOut->setSubtitle() I think
[02:15:34] <chuck>	nice, thanks
[02:21:09] <CIA-15>	03tomasz * r49549 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/bin/public_reporting/triggers.sql: Checking to see if trigger exists before deleting it
[02:21:10] *Splarka 	wishes svn had inverse-annotate
[02:22:07] <p858snake>	{{sofixit}}
[02:27:20] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49550 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/Stabilization_body.php: double-check $this->isAllowed
[02:33:35] <CIA-15>	03philip * r49551 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Update the Chinese conversion tables.
[02:39:11] <werdna>	Splarka: inverse annotate?
[02:39:21] <werdna>	tomaszf: jeez, you're still working?
[02:39:35] <tomaszf>	about to leave ...
[02:39:43] <Splarka>	werdna: find out who removed lines easily, by reverse annotating a file
[02:40:51] <Splarka>	like say, includes/GlobalFunctions.php?view=inverseannotate  would show "* Fuck you, PHP. Fuck you in the ear!" as being removed in '43041'
[02:41:58] <werdna>	heh
[02:42:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgUseDynamicDates = false for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18479  (10wclark)
[02:42:12] <werdna>	whee
[02:55:07] <CIA-15>	03werdna * r49552 10/branches/preferences-work/phase3/ (includes/Preferences.php skins/common/prefs.js): 
[02:55:07] <CIA-15>	* Move 'fill in timezone from browser' to be a <select> option, at Parul's suggestion.
[02:55:07] <CIA-15>	* Split out most of the 'misc' tab into a brand new 'Page Rendering' section.
[03:01:25] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) instalation of AbuseFilter on pt.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18315  +comment (10agarrett)
[03:38:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  (10royal_broil)
[03:51:28] <CIA-15>	03werdna * r49553 10/branches/preferences-work/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): 
[03:51:28] <CIA-15>	* Clarify descriptions of some preferences.
[03:51:28] <CIA-15>	* General usability work in trying to make preferences screen consistent.
[03:51:28] <CIA-15>	* Split off the Misc section into 'Page rendering', there are only two settings now left in Misc.
[03:51:28] <CIA-15>	* Add some defaults for the stub threshold setting.
[03:51:28] <CIA-15>	* Force 20% width on mw-label column for consistency between preferences tabs.
[03:51:32] <CIA-15>	* Style the submit button and visually separate it from the other two.
[03:54:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  (10agarrett)
[04:03:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  (10royal_broil)
[04:08:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  (10agarrett)
[04:24:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  (10royal_broil)
[04:27:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  (10agarrett)
[04:47:51] *Splarka 	stares at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/%EA%B3%A0%EC%A0%95%EC%A0%90_%EC%A0%95%EB%A6%AC
[04:51:57] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49554 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Tweaked r49408: Improved hiding and changed 1 revision case handling
[04:53:56] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49555 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogPage.php: reverted change committed by mistake
[05:04:12] <Marybelle>	My bet is that the user is testing with his admin account.
[05:04:23] <Marybelle>	Or something like that.
[05:04:39] <Marybelle>	Or, it's possible cascading is taking a while to take effect (cache and such).
[05:05:07] *werdna 	shrugs
[05:05:10] <werdna>	whatever
[05:05:58] *Marybelle 	sgurhs.
[05:24:53] <I_Like_Paul>	I'm having a problem with my install, coming up with an error, see http://zuwerguy.co.cc/index.php
[07:05:41] <werdna>	Splarka: how does one get the URL fragment in JS?
[07:06:13] <Splarka>	.hash
[07:06:22] <Splarka>	specifically document.location.hash
[07:06:46] <werdna>	thanks :)
[07:06:48] <Splarka>	see http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/prefs.js
[07:07:36] <Splarka>	my test version sets it every time you click a tab, so that if you copy your current URI location you're basically bookmarking that tab... and if each fieldset had that ID in the source rather than by javascript, you could link non-js users to it
[07:07:45] <Splarka>	it does have some jumpy side-effects though, bit annoying
[07:13:50] <werdna>	interesting
[07:16:07] <ramvi>	MediaWiki internal error. How do I fix it? http://ubuntu-eee.com/wiki/
[07:17:55] <Nikerabbit>	ramvi: have you tried running update.php?
[07:18:09] <ramvi>	yeah, get an error message
[07:18:33] <Nikerabbit>	which is?
[07:19:00] <CIA-15>	03rotem * r49556 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localization update for he.
[07:19:25] <ramvi>	Nikerabbit: here http://pastebin.com/d2e66f2e7
[07:28:42] <root|work>	MediaWiki 1.12?
[07:28:58] <root|work>	maybe you should try with a current version?
[07:35:06] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:$wgServerName&curid=2834&diff=249703&oldid=247100   noobs
[07:38:07] <Nikerabbit>	*oobs
[07:51:32] <ramvi>	Nikerabbit: Upgraded: http://ubuntu-eee.com/wiki/ Still errors. maintanance/update.php still get the fatal error
[07:54:38] <kraut>	moin
[08:03:38] <ramvi>	MediaWiki internal error. How do I fix it? http://ubuntu-eee.com/wiki/
[08:03:48] <ramvi>	update.php returns http://pastebin.com/dce5a702
[08:08:30] <flyingparchment>	i don't see any internal error, i see a 404 page
[08:59:39] <AdvoWork>	hi there. anyone ever done a collaboration type thing, such as wikipedia, how do you cope with people basically deleteing everything, or falsifying posts?
[09:12:47] <thedj>	AdvoWork: there are two solutions, close some things down (registration, protection, blocking etc)
[09:13:10] <thedj>	or throw human and/or automated resources at the problem
[09:13:21] <thedj>	wikipedia does both 
[09:24:43] <AdvoWork>	thedj, what if i was making this from scratch with no expertise in collaboration, only a brief understanding? i will store eveery change anyway, so i can roll back or get a moderator to roll back..
[09:27:25] <ramvi>	flyingparchment: Sorry: http://wiki.geteasypeasy.com
[09:28:22] <alpaka>	hack report: my mediawiki urls used to be like this: http://wiki.pakoob.com/index.php?title= but today when I opened the main page it was changed to this: http://wiki.pakoob.com/index.php/MainPage
[09:29:10] <alpaka>	when I want to upload photos, I receive this error: Upload folder (public) is not writeable by the web server
[09:29:39] <alpaka>	http://wiki.pakoob.com/
[09:29:52] <alpaka>	what's wrong?
[09:30:36] <flyingparchment>	ramvi: paste 'show tables' for that database at rafb.net/paste/
[09:30:59] <alpaka>	I don't see the logo either
[09:32:26] <alpaka>	and the size of LocalSettings.php has changed
[09:32:56] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r49557 10/trunk/extensions/Farmer/ (Farmer.i18n.php SpecialFarmer.php): 
[09:32:56] <CIA-15>	* Use <div class="successbox"></div> arround "farmer-deleting"
[09:32:56] <CIA-15>	* Updated "farmer-deleting"
[09:41:37] <ramvi>	flyingparchment: how do I get the output?
[09:41:54] <flyingparchment>	type it into the mysql client and use copy+paste
[09:51:36] <alpaka>	I have three wikis installed in all three, in the urls, "?" has changed to "/" as in http://tg.pakoob.com/wiki/index.php/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B6%D0%B0:Upload
[09:52:20] <alpaka>	what's wrong? I had a phpBB installation with more than 700 registered ad bots
[09:52:45] <alpaka>	i guess my site might have been hacked
[09:59:49] <thedj>	OverlordQ: got other suggestions ? :D
[10:01:05] <GerardM->	AdvoWork, stamp it out as soon as possible
[10:01:15] <GerardM->	when it is obvious do not talk to much 
[10:01:22] <GerardM->	that is exactly what they want
[10:01:55] <GerardM->	at OmegaWiki everyone is an admin and this is not a right
[10:02:08] <GerardM->	so if someone misbehaves, he is no longer an admin
[10:02:17] <GerardM->	when again, no longer welcome
[10:07:17] <^David>	Hey
[10:07:37] <^David>	Just a question - could TinyMCE be used, and then an HTML to Wiki converter?
[10:07:55] <^David>	wouldn't that then be a fully functional wysiwyg editor?
[10:09:27] <flyingparchment>	only for very simple markup.  you can't do a lossless wiki>html>wiki conversion
[10:09:42] <flyingparchment>	(unless you embedded a lot of html comments describing the missing markup, which then wouldn't be editable)
[10:10:22] <ramvi>	flyingparchment: http://rafb.net/p/tYccLx17.html
[10:10:22] <alpaka>	from today when trying to upload a file I receive this error: "The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver."
[10:10:56] <alpaka>	my Public_html directory is set to 755
[10:13:57] <zocky>	alpaka, do you have an image directory?
[10:14:06] <zocky>	*images
[10:14:25] <zocky>	that needs to be writable to the apache process
[10:14:26] <alpaka>	yes
[10:14:51] <alpaka>	it's 755
[10:14:55] <alpaka>	images it set to 755
[10:15:28] <alpaka>	s/it/is/
[10:15:47] <zocky>	that means it's not writable to group & others
[10:16:20] <zocky>	you either need to change the directory to be owned by the whichever user apache runs as, or to make it 777
[10:17:00] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Incorrect semantics for PNG images on IE 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18470  +comment (10erwin)
[10:17:16] <alpaka>	zocky: thanks
[10:18:10] <CIA-15>	03raymond * r49558 10/trunk/phase3/ (336 files in 2 dirs): 
[10:18:11] <CIA-15>	Per discussion at the developer meeting: Remove arbitrary sprinkled message documentation from message files.
[10:18:11] <CIA-15>	The removed comments are included in MessagesQqq.php togehter with a lot more documentation
[10:18:11] <CIA-15>	Add a link to translatewiki.net too to show users the way to improve translations.
[10:22:19] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) PNG transparency fixes for IE users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2074  +comment (10erwin)
[11:00:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) EXIF data lacking localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18389  (10wiki)
[11:10:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow blocked users edit their own talk pages at Japanese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18484 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (kanjy.wm)
[11:11:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow blocked users edit their own talk pages at Japanese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18484   +shell (10raimond.spekking)
[11:15:14] <phrearch>	hello
[11:15:23] <phrearch>	anyone knows where i can find the genshi extension for mediawiki?
[11:15:41] <Emufarmers>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
[11:16:10] <phrearch>	thank you! :D
[11:16:39] <Emufarmers>	In the future, try searching on mw.org
[11:21:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) EXIF data lacking localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18389  (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[11:29:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Incorrect semantics for PNG images on IE 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18470  (10kliu)
[11:40:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Talk subpages link to main subpages even when they are turned off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13119  +comment (10cenarium.sysop)
[11:46:31] <Emufarmers>	To discourage people from redirecting their user pages in favor of using {{softredirect}}, how does this AbuseFilter rule sound?
[11:46:35] <Emufarmers>	lcase("[[redirect (w:|en:|w:en:|meta:|m:)") rlike added_lines
[11:46:35] <Emufarmers>	& (article_namespace == "User" | article_namespace == "User_talk")
[11:46:50] <Emufarmers>	er, on mw.org
[11:47:04] <mibmib>	is it possible to see where some page redirects on some other other page? basically i use redirect as a selector for default page and i need to use this information (default page) elsewhere
[11:49:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  (10royal_broil)
[11:53:58] <Emufarmers>	oh, it'd probably help if I got the redirect syntax right
[11:54:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) 'SVN blame' for WMF config files would be nice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18485 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (happy-melon)
[11:59:15] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) 'SVN blame' for WMF config files would be nice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18485  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[11:59:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Configuration files should have versioning system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17517  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[12:02:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Configuration files should have versioning system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17517  +comment (10bretthillebrand)
[12:29:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Incorrect semantics for PNG images on IE 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18470  (10davidg)
[12:34:35] <HardDisk_WP>	hey
[12:34:42] <HardDisk_WP>	anyone here who knows CSS?
[12:38:12] <mibmib>	HardDisk_WP: what's the problem?
[12:43:21] <HardDisk_WP>	mibmib, http://s-m.homeip.net/barons/index.php?section=welcome&action=show => I want the width of the content box being maximum
[12:44:08] <piksi>	ehh
[12:44:17] <CIA-15>	03ashley * r49559 10/trunk/extensions/Vote/ (Vote.css Vote.page.php Vote.php): 
[12:44:17] <CIA-15>	Vote:
[12:44:17] <CIA-15>	*fixed typo in Vote.page.php which was causing an internal error
[12:44:17] <CIA-15>	*doxygen doc tweaks
[12:44:17] <CIA-15>	*added version number into extension credits
[12:44:17] <CIA-15>	*removed $wgExtensionFunctions call, just call the hooked function normally
[12:47:54] <mibmib>	HardDisk_WP: i'm not 100 % sure if this works but you could try to float left menu to left and right menu to right. i hope normal flow takes care of the content part
[12:48:28] <HardDisk_WP>	hmm.. the both menus have their float:left / right
[12:48:41] <HardDisk_WP>	I wonder what happens if I kill contents float left
[12:49:05] <mibmib>	alright. what if you float all to left so that width is set for all of them to some suitable figure
[12:49:07] <mibmib>	?
[12:49:39] <HardDisk_WP>	all contains left
[12:50:16] <HardDisk_WP>	hmm, killing off the content float kills the layout
[12:50:53] <svip>	;-; The ExtensionDistributor is broke.
[12:52:29] <mibmib>	gotta go. o/ check out #css perhaps :)
[12:57:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) an enhancement of the wiki internal links (links to other articles) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18486 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (aibras)
[12:58:29] <Nikerabbit>	örör
[13:04:20] <Emufarmers>	svip: how so?
[13:04:46] <Emufarmers>	oh, I see
[13:20:17] <Bloodrayne>	Hi my boss has requested that this 51KB of our user manual to be split up into separate pages?  How would I do that?
[13:21:20] <Emufarmers>	Bloodrayne: copy and paste?
[13:21:46] <Bloodrayne>	I don't even know how to make separate pages
[13:22:12] <Bloodrayne>	I have already made links on the front page that go to the headings and subheadings...
[13:22:20] <Emufarmers>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Starting_a_new_page
[13:23:19] <Bloodrayne>	Emu, I only had Editor Access Rights until I sign the NDA for my company next week - so right now, I don't have admin priveledges
[13:23:55] <Emufarmers>	You don't generally need admin privileges to create a new page
[13:24:33] <Bloodrayne>	okay I'll try that in the sandbox before attempting it on the company's wiki
[13:25:25] <Emufarmers>	Um, make sure you don't put your company's confidential information on the MW.org sandbox. :-)
[13:25:34] <Bloodrayne>	Emufarmers: Maybe you can give me some constructive criticism - since it's my first time doing this wiki, you would want to check it out http://wiki.vulani.net
[13:25:43] <Bloodrayne>	this is the public wiki that was moved the other day to another server
[13:26:13] <Bloodrayne>	and I've already discussed with the boss regarding the sensitive data - we've sorted that out already
[13:41:11] <Vanger>	Hi. I want to implement some premoderation in a specific way. New articles can be created without moderator's permission, but they will be deleted after N days, if moderator didn't manually approve the article. Has this been implemented by someone already? What should I read if noone did this?
[14:25:38] <RoanKattouw>	Whee
[14:26:13] <an3k>	ialex: if php can add entries into many different tables it can delete them too without breaking the integrity! it just depends on the quality of the sourcecode / functions
[14:26:46] <an3k>	i already have Renameuser but i dont want to save hundreds of "Renamed User #" like wikipedia
[14:27:01] <Emufarmers>	an3k: take another look at what Duesentrieb said about the amount of space usernames actually take up
[14:27:15] <RoanKattouw>	an3k: Deleting users is messy and not good for much. It's not worth the trouble
[14:27:41] <an3k>	Emufarmers: its not only the username which has to be saved. in general: yes but often the users can add/edit articles
[14:28:29] <RoanKattouw>	an3k: If it's the old revisions that bother you, take a look at the Nuke extension
[14:28:32] <RoanKattouw>	!e Nuke | an3k 
[14:28:32] --mwbot--	an3k: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke
[14:30:26] <an3k>	hehe. if i delete all the contributions a user made its username doesnt exist in many tables anymore so deletion of the useraccount wouldn't be a huge problem.
[14:31:35] <RoanKattouw>	an3k: Unless the user created log entries (move, etc.)
[14:31:46] <an3k>	in fact deleting a user is like a diff of two database snapshots. one directly before the new account was created and one with all other changes made NOT involving the account to delete
[14:32:01] <RoanKattouw>	If you wanna delete a user go right ahead, but you have been warned
[14:32:32] <RoanKattouw>	And if it goes wrong, expect "help" along the lines of "you shouldn't have done that"
[14:33:36] <an3k>	erm ...
[14:34:48] <Duesentrieb>	an3k: a wiki works like a revision management system. it is not designed to ever lose any information. it can only move forward. any "deletion" just means hiding something.
[14:35:08] <Duesentrieb>	an3k: the only way to *cleanly* and completly delete something is to restore the entire system from backup
[14:35:33] <an3k>	hmm, i guess i should write an extension after i got sendmail well configured :)
[14:35:41] <Emufarmers>	good luck with that
[14:36:01] <Duesentrieb>	you can write an extension, but you will be fighting against the very nature of the wiki#
[14:36:11] <Duesentrieb>	which means you will have a lot of trouble getting it "right".
[14:36:24] <Duesentrieb>	there *will* be unforseen consequences.
[14:37:20] <an3k>	at least it will merge and rename those users so that there is one single account which made all the stuff you "deleted"
[14:38:42] <RoanKattouw>	an3k: RenameUser can already do that, I believe
[14:39:18] <an3k>	yeah, i except that Duesentrieb but i already successfully deleted a revision entry and wikiDB is still with integrity
[14:39:49] <an3k>	RoanKattouw: no, i need merge too. if i rename foo to bar and account bar already exists i get an error
[14:40:25] <Emufarmers>	an3k: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete
[14:40:43] <Guest73740>	Mediawiki newbie here...having a strange problem with what must be a simple solution, just can't figure it out after three re-installs. Here it goes...
[14:41:18] <an3k>	ah, thanks Emufarmers, extension matrix doesnt show that
[14:43:09] <Guest73740>	I install Apache, MySQL and Mediawiki using YUM. I create a 'www' user and repoint https to /home/www/html/...I then cp /var/www/wiki/ to /home/www/html/wiki/ and then run through the install script. It works great, but my wiki is in bland plain text, no style is applied. What did I do wrong?
[14:43:21] <Guest73740>	https = httpd* 
[14:43:33] <Emufarmers>	Don't install MediaWiki using YUM
[14:44:20] <Guest73740>	Oh, YUM hoses it up somehow? I should install from the TAR on the website?
[14:44:38] <Emufarmers>	That is what we recommend and support, yes
[14:45:36] <Guest73740>	Okay, that's what I will do then. Thanks for the advice!
[14:59:17] <Subfader>	Got a css problem. How can i assign afont family to text in <div class="list"> but not <div class="list"><p> without defining a font-family for div.list p {} ? (I don't want to cos font-family is a browser default)
[14:59:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgUseDynamicDates = false for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18479  (10wclark)
[15:04:56] <Subfader>	**problem solved
[15:05:34] <Subfader>	btw: will there be a MW 14.1 before the new quarterly release?
[15:06:46] <Nikerabbit>	may or may not
[15:06:55] <flyingparchment>	14.1?
[15:07:04] <RoanKattouw>	1.14.1
[15:08:42] *magewhopper 	is waiting 1.15 for stable SQLite version
[15:09:09] <RoanKattouw>	Hasn't been done yet AFAIK
[15:10:22] <magewhopper>	hehe my local PC has lot of memos on 1.13 with SQLite 
[15:11:00] <Subfader>	kk thanks
[15:21:11] <Subfader>	i found something odd. when there's an ? in an ordered list a blank will be listed in front. why is that? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Subfader/_.
[15:21:51] <Subfader>	#foo or # foo shouldn't make a diffrence?
[15:23:59] <RoanKattouw>	brion: You still have to assign mentors to GSoC projects Really Soon
[15:24:27] <RoanKattouw>	heh
[15:24:31] <brion-breakfast>	RoanKattouw: is there an interface to do it yet? i've been looking for days :)
[15:24:38] <RoanKattouw>	Should be one
[15:24:56] <RoanKattouw>	You, being the project admin, should be able to assign a mentor to a project through the regular interface
[15:25:01] *RoanKattouw 	sniffs around in the user guide
[15:25:06] <brion-breakfast>	you'd think so
[15:26:08] <Nikerabbit>	hmm
[15:26:17] <RoanKattouw>	brion-breakfast: Argh, the interface is horrible
[15:26:34] <RoanKattouw>	"They can do so by selecting "Admin Comment" in the "Comment Type" drop down list and then entering a particular mentor's Link ID in the "Assign Mentor" field."
[15:26:49] <RoanKattouw>	You have to add a comment to a proposal in order to assign a mentor
[15:26:57] <RoanKattouw>	That's just insane
[15:27:18] <Nikerabbit>	are the gsoc projects selected yet?
[15:27:22] <brion-breakfast>	heh
[15:27:28] <RoanKattouw>	Not offically
[15:27:48] <Nikerabbit>	20. is the official date it seems
[15:28:02] <RoanKattouw>	Yup
[15:33:08] <rstory>	hi.. i'm trying to load the PdfExport extenstion.. I copied the files to the right place, added the require_once, but I'm not getting a link in the toolbox, nor any errors..
[15:33:23] <rstory>	any ideas what step i might be missing?
[15:37:14] <ialex>	Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=19) state=0 in extensions/TitleBlacklist/TitleBlacklist.list.php on line 427
[15:37:14] <ialex>	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in extensions/TitleBlacklist/TitleBlacklist.list.php on line 427
[15:37:17] *ialex 	stabs PHP
[15:37:42] <jeroen->	When I do e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Watchlist&namespace=0 - I get my watchlist with only the articles. When I use the 'inverted' option I receive all non-article pages, but how do I direct link to it. In other words: whicgh parameter do I use instead of &namespace=0 ?
[15:38:42] <ialex>	jeroen-: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Watchlist&namespace=0&invert=1 ?
[15:39:06] <jeroen->	ialex: you are the hero off the day! :-)
[15:39:33] <jeroen->	thanks
[15:39:43] <ialex>	you're welcome :)
[15:40:27] <rstory>	aha.. if I go to Special:PdfPrint, I do get an error.. PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined method Xml::listdropdown()
[15:41:44] <RoanKattouw>	rstory: Your version of MediaWiki probably isn't recent enough
[15:42:06] <rstory>	arrgh..
[15:42:09] <RoanKattouw>	rstory: Or you should download an older version of pdfexport that's compatible with your MW version
[15:42:16] <RoanKattouw>	(if available)
[15:43:14] <rstory>	ok.. i'll poke around for a version that will work with mediawiki-1.11.2-1.el5
[15:44:19] <Twilo>	hallo
[15:44:44] <Twilo>	kann man hier auf deutsch fragen?
[15:44:47] <RoanKattouw>	That's kinda old, not sure such a version is available
[15:45:05] <RoanKattouw>	Twilo: Man kann es immer versuchen ;)
[15:46:28] <Twilo>	 
[15:46:28] <Twilo>	hi
[15:46:28] <Twilo>	kannst du mir sagen, warum das wiki hier http://www.pdadmin-wiki.de/Special:WhatLinksHere/Main_Page bei main_page den link http://www.pdadmin-wiki.de/?title=Main_Page&redirect=no aufruft? oder ist das so gewollt?
[15:47:04] <RoanKattouw>	Das ist so gewollt
[15:47:39] <Twilo>	warum verlinkt er nicht nach http://www.pdadmin-wiki.de/?Main_Page?redirect=no ?
[15:51:17] <RoanKattouw>	Das macht dass, wenn Main Page ein Redirect ist, die link nicht nach den Ziel des Redirects geht sondern nach den Redirect selbst
[15:51:17] <Twilo>	ich meinte http://www.pdadmin-wiki.de/Main_Page?redirect=no
[15:51:17] <RoanKattouw>	Das weiss ich nicht
[15:51:17] <RoanKattouw>	Ich denke das ist weil /Main_Page?redirect=no nicht auf allen Setups wirkt
[15:51:17] <Twilo>	anderes Beispiel: http://www.pdadmin-wiki.de/?title=Main_Page&oldid=13 könnte ja http://www.pdadmin-wiki.de/Main_Page?oldid=13 lauten
[15:51:17] <RoanKattouw>	Genau
[15:51:17] <Twilo>	ist die frage, ob dieses verhalten irgendwie geändert werden kann
[15:51:17] <RoanKattouw>	Ich glaube nicht
[15:53:16] <Twilo>	hm... das ist suboptimal ;)
[15:53:21] <Twilo>	trotzdem danke :)
[15:59:53] <Subfader>	On Special:NewFiles what's the use of the "Show new files starting from"? it's not working... http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewFiles&until=20090201094458
[16:00:59] <AaronSchulz>	brion: can you check srv215?
[16:01:00] <Subfader>	I'm more & more convinced that 1.14 was the most buggy version by now :/
[16:01:20] <brion>	AaronSchulz: check it in whta way?
[16:01:38] <AaronSchulz>	any sync/cache issues?
[16:02:18] <Masz>	wikipedia is gone :~(
[16:02:19] <brion>	RobH & azafred: can you check that? possible apc cache or mediawiki file sync issues on srv215. thx :D
[16:02:28] <brion>	Masz: europe? being worked on. see #wikimedia-tech
[16:02:40] <Masz>	yes, denmark
[16:02:40] <brion>	ok, gotta run into the office...
[16:02:41] <azafred>	looking
[16:03:26] <brion>	thx
[16:10:12] <azafred>	AaronSchulz: are you still seeing issues on srv215?
[16:10:38] <AaronSchulz>	it's hard to get that server :)
[16:10:48] <azafred>	:p
[16:11:25] <ialex>	AaronSchulz: edit /etc/hosts :)
[16:12:44] <ialex>	or not
[16:22:36] <failure>	anybody have NIS authentication enabled on their mediawiki site?
[16:23:41] <AaronSchulz>	azafred: looks fine now
[16:23:45] <AaronSchulz>	did you do anything?
[16:24:42] <azafred>	yeah, just bounced the apache instance...
[16:25:22] <AaronSchulz>	previously, the closing '>' tag for a links was a �
[16:26:28] <AaronSchulz>	*<a> links
[16:31:42] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r49561 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/CategoryPage.php): * (bug 18449) Fixed items number per column on category pages when the total is divisible by 3
[16:31:44] <CIA-15>	03dale * r49560 10/branches/script-loader/ (8 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[16:31:44] <CIA-15>	initial commit of scriptLoader core patch
[16:31:44] <CIA-15>	* Initial Modified Monobook header.
[16:31:44] <CIA-15>	* Skin updates (added userJS functions)
[16:31:46] <CIA-15>	* Autoload js classes
[16:31:48] <CIA-15>	* JSMin (import)
[16:31:50] <CIA-15>	* mvwScriptLoader
[16:32:00] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) CategoryPage.php miscalculates number of articles in a three-column list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18449  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[16:47:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) If intermediate revisions are not shown on diffs (e.g. due to .mw-fr-reviewlink), show list of intermediate users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18454  (10JSchulz_4587)
[17:03:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  (10Prodego)
[17:03:19] <Prodego|away>	wow
[17:03:22] <Prodego|away>	that is really lagged
[17:03:24] <Prodego|away>	that was hours ago
[17:07:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow filter rules to consider private data such as source IP, reverse DNS and user agent. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18429  +comment (10happy-melon)
[17:11:12] <an3k>	note to myself: never use any packet manager anymore ...
[17:48:17] <rsimpkins>	Does anyone know of a way to continue a numbered list after you do a preformatted text area (with the leading space)?
[17:48:25] <rsimpkins>	#item one
[17:48:31] <rsimpkins>	 some pre text
[17:48:34] <rsimpkins>	#item two
[17:49:21] <rsimpkins>	I tried #:, but that dosen't work right. I also tried #:<pre>text</pre> and that works okay, if you only have one line of pre text. If you have more than one, it ends up breaking things up.
[17:49:32] <Platonides>	rsimpkins, you have to use <ol>
[17:52:59] <CIA-15>	03yaron * r49562 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/SRF_Messages.php: Added printer-name values for calendar and math formats
[17:53:36] <rsimpkins>	Platonides: Thanks for the help.
[17:54:57] <CIA-15>	03yaron * r49563 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/ (Calendar/SRF_Calendar.php Math/SRF_Math.php): Added getName() method
[17:54:57] <CIA-15>	03straussd * r49564 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/fundcore/gateways/fundcore_paypal.module: PayPal refinements
[17:55:57] <CIA-15>	03yaron * r49565 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/SRF_ParserFunctions.php: Dave Loomer's new file for parser functions
[17:59:54] <CIA-15>	03yaron * r49566 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/ (RELEASE-NOTES SRF_Settings.php): New version: 1.4.4 - includes new parser functions
[18:15:48] <CIA-15>	03straussd * r49567 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/civicrm/CRM/Dedupe/BAO/RuleGroup.php: Use MEMORY engine for deduping.
[18:21:48] <Bloodrayne>	I have a issue that I need to get around - I have double the name of the page and the heading... what am I doing wrong?
[18:23:03] <Emufarmers>	Bloodrayne: link?
[18:23:16] <Bloodrayne>	http://wiki.vulani.net/index.php/Logging_onto_a_Vulani_Server
[18:23:45] <kleinweby>	good evening, I'm searching the web to make my wiki multilingual. I've that I can create a Namespace for everlanguage. When I now acces a page in the de-Namespace via index.php/de:Site MediaWiki shows as titel de:Site. Is there a way to remove the de: from the titel MediaWiki displays?
[18:23:49] <Bloodrayne>	Emu:  I took someone's suggestion earlier on, that page was created by adding a link and then I created the page by adding the information... it goes straight to edit instead... why?
[18:23:57] <Emufarmers>	So take out the heading
[18:24:12] <Bloodrayne>	how, Emufarmers?
[18:24:23] <Emufarmers>	uh
[18:24:33] <Bloodrayne>	must i just take the = heading = thing out instead?
[18:24:50] <Emufarmers>	I think you might want to read through some of the editing help pages on MW.org/Meta
[18:25:06] <Bloodrayne>	Emufarmers: I have read MW
[18:25:11] <Bloodrayne>	there isn't much information on there
[18:25:28] <Emufarmers>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents ?
[18:25:36] <Jeni>	hello :)
[18:25:54] <Bloodrayne>	hello jeni
[18:26:12] <Jeni>	I'm just toying with ideas for a mediawiki/phpbb installation I'm involved with...
[18:26:37] <Bloodrayne>	lol
[18:26:52] <Jeni>	Is there an extension around that could create a new topic on the phpbb forums, for each new page created on the wiki?
[18:26:58] <Jeni>	Am I just being silly, and should I just get a life?
[18:27:43] <Bloodrayne>	jeni, I am new to mediawiki so I really can't help you
[18:28:09] <Jeni>	no problem
[18:28:12] *Jeni 	pokes everyone else
[18:28:47] <CIA-15>	03straussd * r49568 10/civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/civicrm/CRM/Contact/Form/Merge.php: Change post-merge redirect to go to merged contact.
[18:29:17] <Bloodrayne>	Emufarmers: The boss wants me to break up the main manual into sections... I can't seem to get it right as I open the wiki on another browser and I see that the page isn't broken up at all.
[18:29:29] <Bloodrayne>	specially when I put in new links and copy and paste the information into the new pages
[18:29:54] <Emufarmers>	Bloodrayne: if you've moved a section into a new page, you no longer need the section header
[18:31:01] <Bloodrayne>	Emufarmers: http://wiki.vulani.net/index.php/Main_Page - User Manual must stay.  the table below is the one with the new links that I need to create new pages (breaking up the user manual into those sections)
[18:33:22] <Emufarmers>	Bloodrayne: your user manual is already broken into sections; you can link to them as sections: http://wiki.vulani.net/index.php/User_Manual#User_Management and http://wiki.vulani.net/index.php/User_Manual#Reports and so on.  Or you can move them onto their own pages.
[18:33:52] <Bloodrayne>	aaah okay
[18:34:16] <Bloodrayne>	I'm checking that out on Chrome as a logged out user - for some reason firefox keeps on sending me to the page in edit mode
[18:34:31] <Bloodrayne>	now i see it
[18:34:34] <Bloodrayne>	thanks, Emufarmers
[18:35:20] <Bloodrayne>	does anyone here use Google Chrome?
[18:35:33] *^demon 	does
[18:35:40] <Emufarmers>	I am using it at the moment, yes
[18:36:02] <Bloodrayne>	Emufarmers: so am I doing something right with the breaking up of sections into single pages of its' own?
[18:36:12] <^demon>	I'm on my mac right now, so I don't have it in front of me, but I use it regularly on my PC.
[18:36:38] <Bloodrayne>	okay demon :)
[18:37:20] <Emufarmers>	Bloodrayne: um, not necessarily, no; I wouldn't break a page up into a bunch of other pages just for the hell of it, but it's up to you (or your boss or whoever) to decide how you want to organize things
[18:37:34] <Bloodrayne>	I have to be honest - i really love Firefox.  lately I have been having kak with it - intermittent freezing now and then and it annoys the hell out of me..
[18:37:39] <Bloodrayne>	Emufarmers: that's what the boss wants.
[18:38:02] <Bloodrayne>	User Manual is to stay as it is.  the bottom table is for breaking up into sections and that's what he wants
[18:38:10] <Bloodrayne>	I told him I'll work something out...
[18:38:44] <Bloodrayne>	I actually know why he wanted it like that - some people use GPRS / 3G which is slow in loading large pages.  I'm on GPRS
[18:39:07] <Emufarmers>	Go for it, then
[18:39:12] <Bloodrayne>	I was telling him the issues I have with GPRS / 3G - with loading large amount of information on  page
[18:39:28] <Bloodrayne>	thanks Emu
[18:40:34] <^demon>	Bloodrayne: I had the same issues with FF. It's gotten ungodly slow compared to how it used to be (IMO). I prefer Chrome...it's infinitely faster.
[18:40:59] <Bloodrayne>	Chrome is actually slow as the demon in hell on 3G / GPRS
[18:41:06] <Bloodrayne>	but it runs like a flash on ADSL
[18:41:09] <Emufarmers>	And by infinitely you mean an amount that could be easily measured :p
[18:41:32] <Bloodrayne>	sorry u lost me there, emu. what was that about?
[18:41:34] <Bloodrayne>	:P
[18:41:44] <Bloodrayne>	aaaa h okay
[18:41:46] <Bloodrayne>	i get it
[18:41:49] <Bloodrayne>	blonde moment
[18:41:50] <^demon>	Bloodrayne: Chrome works pretty well for me when I tether my G1 as a 3G modem.
[18:42:01] <Bloodrayne>	is it?  Hmmm
[18:42:06] <Bloodrayne>	maybe I actually am blind to it
[18:43:51] <Bloodrayne>	Emu:  so what do I do with the page name - the heading has to stay there but the name of the page - I mean I can't just have double the name on that each page
[18:44:09] <Bloodrayne>	The heading is for the reason for the numbering in the contents box
[18:46:00] <Emufarmers>	..
[18:46:10] <Bloodrayne>	fortunately for me, next week I will become administrator when my signed NDA is handed over in the office - I'll eventually learn how to do it properly with the help of the boss, and two other guys.
[18:51:15] <Bloodrayne>	aaaah NOW i remember
[18:53:45] *^demon 	lays cookie trap for Aaron|away
[18:54:19] <Emufarmers>	:O
[18:54:26] <Emufarmers>	A ray of sunshine has entered my life. ^__^
[18:54:54] <Splarka>	it'll give you a melanoma
[18:55:02] <Bloodrayne>	why what happened, Emufarmers?
[18:55:09] <Emufarmers>	Well, that's why I have the blinds down
[18:55:15] <Bloodrayne>	lol sparkla
[18:56:54] <Bloodrayne>	Emufarmers: what is your location?
[18:57:19] <Emufarmers>	Bloodrayne: the US
[18:57:35] <Bloodrayne>	me in the sunny South Africa
[18:58:08] <Bloodrayne>	and it's 9pm here
[18:58:36] <^demon>	It's actually sunny here today.
[18:58:52] <Bloodrayne>	Emufarmers: check this out - i removed the heading when I realised that there is no content box.  http://wiki.vulani.net/index.php/Storage
[18:59:20] <Emufarmers>	Congrats
[18:59:37] <Bloodrayne>	thanks :)
[18:59:51] <Bloodrayne>	hence the reason why I get double in a row :S
[19:00:09] <Bloodrayne>	demon, you also from the US?
[19:00:24] <Bloodrayne>	where in the US, emufarmers?
[19:02:02] <^demon>	Bloodrayne: East coast, a few hours from DC.
[19:03:26] <Bloodrayne>	Cool. I almost went to Kentucky when I was accepted on Camp America - Easter Seals Camp Kysoc
[19:04:20] <^demon>	werdna: I saw the latest work on prefbranch. Awesome. Can't wait for the (impending) merge :D
[19:04:57] <Bloodrayne>	is there anyone on here from South Africa?
[19:05:19] <Bloodrayne>	demon:  link please.
[19:06:14] <^demon>	Bloodrayne: Link to what?\
[19:07:17] <Bloodrayne>	u were talking about prefbranch.
[19:07:19] <Bloodrayne>	what'
[19:07:59] <^demon>	Bloodrayne: It's a branch of the software for retooling the preferences on the backend.
[19:08:05] <^demon>	In any case, class over. Bye folks.
[19:08:15] <Bloodrayne>	lol
[19:08:21] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/preferences-work/phase3/
[19:08:32] <Bloodrayne>	thanks, Sparkla
[19:10:51] <RoanKattouw>	Damn, view=log has gotten SLOW
[19:15:05] <Jeni>	Is it possible to install the WP popups script on an outside MW installation?
[19:15:27] <Splarka>	paging dr thedj ^
[19:16:00] <RoanKattouw>	Jeni: Probably, but it may not be easy
[19:17:43] <Jeni>	I should probably ask on the appropriate talk page for some advice?
[19:18:42] *Splarka 	just saw thedj talk, and he's rewriting popups...
[19:23:42] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) SVN proxy error in Code Review diff load with [purge] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18482  summary; +comment (10herd)
[19:25:39] <thedj>	Jeni: sure. though i don't think anyone tested it in ages.
[19:25:41] <svip>	#time is acting strange.  It is always a day behind.
[19:25:48] <Bloodrayne>	Cheers people. thanks for the help. am off to bed it's almost 10pm in South Africa
[19:25:50] <svip>	I give it 2009-01-01, it gives me 2008-12-31.
[19:26:32] <Splarka>	svip: timezone?
[19:26:35] <svip>	Aha!
[19:26:39] <svip>	I fixed it by adding 12:00
[19:26:42] <Splarka>	specify UTC
[19:26:45] <svip>	Uh.
[19:26:47] <svip>	How I do that?
[19:27:13] <Splarka>	sec
[19:27:18] <svip>	Uhm, I see now.
[19:28:18] <Splarka>	compare {{#time:c|2009-01-01 PST}} vs {{#time:c|2009-01-01 UTC}}
[19:28:33] <Splarka>	notice 8hr difference
[19:38:24] <CIA-15>	03yaron * r49569 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/SRF_Messages.php: Fixed typo
[19:39:47] <Splarka>	<Subfader> On Special:NewFiles what's the use of the "Show new files starting from"? it's not working... http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewFiles&until=20090201094458
[19:40:14] <Splarka>	if subfader comes back tell them it is like the 'Show new changes starting from' on Special:RecentChanges
[19:40:25] <Splarka>	and their example date is outside the range of the recent changes table
[19:43:39] <eidolon>	hi folks - i'm missing something obvious here.  can i upload an attachment to a wiki page - NOT an image -= look slike wgFileExtensions are expecting images - to be passed through imagemagick 'convert'.  We want to upload an arbitrary dump file from a database.  Possible?
[19:50:24] <CIA-15>	03raymond * r49570 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (32 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-04-16 19:00 UTC)
[20:09:24] <CIA-15>	03raymond * r49571 10/trunk/extensions/ (33 files in 29 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-04-16 19:52 UTC)
[20:10:16] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Revision 48379 broke Special:Log and Special:Upload in one of my wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18487 critical; Normal; MediaWiki: File/Repo; (joel-alexis)
[20:11:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Fix broken category counts on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18488 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (happy-melon)
[20:11:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Category counter not updated on article deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17155  (10happy-melon)
[20:11:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Revision 48379 broke Special:Log and Special:Upload in one of my wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18487  (10joel-alexis)
[20:16:34] <CIA-15>	03catrope * r49572 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/FileRepo.php: (bug 18487) Another fix for r48379: move up getMemcKey() as well
[20:16:40] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Revision 48379 broke Special:Log and Special:Upload in one of my wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18487  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[20:21:01] <meister_>	hi
[20:22:31] <meister_>	I just migrated an old 1.9.6 mediawiki to a 1.14.0 and some urls are now broken (only russian ones)
[20:25:19] <meister_>	seems to be related to this issue : http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/mediawiki/126309
[20:26:20] <RoanKattouw>	meister_: Don't think so, that one's about an incomplete import
[20:26:41] <meister_>	RoanKattouw: mmh ok
[20:26:59] <meister_>	I also switch to a mysql4 to 5
[20:27:05] <meister_>	it may be related
[20:28:13] <RoanKattouw>	brion: <brokenrecord>You still have to assign mentors to the GSoC projects</brokenrecord>
[20:29:20] <RoanKattouw>	brion: "They can do so by selecting "Admin Comment" in the "Comment Type" drop down list and then entering a particular mentor's Link ID in the "Assign Mentor" field."
[20:45:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgUseDynamicDates = false for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18479  (10wclark)
[20:48:01] <CIA-15>	03catrope * r49573 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalRepo.php: Followup to r49572: forgot to commit LocalRepo.php
[20:50:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgUseDynamicDates = false for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18479  (10public)
[20:55:02] <brion>	RoanKattouw: tx
[20:55:25] <RoanKattouw>	brion: Sorry for relentlessly poking you about this all day, but it has to get done :)
[20:55:40] <brion>	ow ow ow
[20:57:24] <brion>	RoanKattouw: i think gsoc needs a usability project ;)
[20:57:37] <brion>	RoanKattouw: nilkas -> siebrand right?
[20:57:47] <brion>	and did anybody volunteer to take the rendering daemon?
[20:57:56] <chuck>	rendering daemon?
[20:58:05] <RoanKattouw>	brion: We were thinking of doing a dual mentorship0 (Siebrand+me)
[20:58:17] <RoanKattouw>	But since the software is stupid, you have to pick one of us :D
[20:58:21] <brion>	i think i can only assign one ;)
[20:58:28] <RoanKattouw>	And I believe Simetrical volunteered for the image rendering daemon
[20:58:32] <brion>	hmm ok
[20:58:44] <RoanKattouw>	Yup, on top it says Possible mentors: Aryeh Gregor
[20:58:46] <brion>	yay
[20:58:52] <brion>	that's what happens when you read stuff huh
[21:00:10] <brion>	ok, i think it's all done now :D
[21:00:11] <RoanKattouw>	hehe
[21:00:12] <brion>	RoanKattouw: look ok?
[21:00:26] *RoanKattouw 	refreshes, takes ages
[21:00:33] <RoanKattouw>	Yay
[21:00:44] <brion>	w00t
[21:00:59] <siebrand>	RoanKattouw: Niklas will be mentored by Tim and me, actually :)
[21:01:04] <RoanKattouw>	Ah
[21:01:29] <RoanKattouw>	Well you were just officially made mentor by Brion a few seconds ago :)
[21:01:44] <siebrand>	RoanKattouw: but as we all care about him, we'll all keep an eye on whatever he messes up :)
[21:01:56] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah, that's what happens in practice
[21:02:32] <brion>	:D
[21:03:00] <RoanKattouw>	Especially for someone like Tim who's too busy to even do the stuff he's supposed to be doing, let alone mentor someone
[21:03:09] <siebrand>	RoanKattouw: btw, are you taling with the pwb guys like multichill about getting the api to do stuff that the bot framework does now? (result: reduced traffic)
[21:03:14] <RoanKattouw>	(of course busy levels change over time)
[21:03:24] <Merlissimo>	is there anbody willing to add my feature-patch to the repository? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6092
[21:04:02] <RoanKattouw>	siebrand: I talked to him in Berlin and he said he wanted to migrate some stuff in the pywikipediabot framework to use the API (talking existing functionality here), so I'll be in touch with him soon
[21:04:14] <siebrand>	RoanKattouw: cool.
[21:05:15] <RoanKattouw>	Merlissimo: Holy crap. Can't you just add one magic word for the complete timestamp and use {{#time:}} to extract the relevant bit?
[21:06:52] <Merlissimo>	all magic words are still in use, i only added the parser functions
[21:07:07] <RoanKattouw>	Oh, these are existing magic words that you added page parameters to?
[21:07:21] <Merlissimo>	yes
[21:07:36] <Splarka>	feature creep, more unhashed pf :(
[21:08:32] <RoanKattouw>	Shouldn't the patch remove the existing magic words then?
[21:08:47] <Dewin>	And break compatibility with wikis that might be using them?
[21:08:51] <RoanKattouw>	Oh wait, no, it shouldn't
[21:09:01] <Splarka>	Roan: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46662  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/46630
[21:09:05] <Merlissimo>	no the magic word are still in use if there is no argument
[21:09:08] <RoanKattouw>	No, I meant to use {{MAGICWORD}} without a parameter as {{MAGICWORD:}} but that ain't gonna fly
[21:09:12] <Splarka>	(precident, bad precident, but precident)
[21:09:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) add {{revisiontime:}}/{{lastrevision:}} colon/parser function or {{REVISIONtimeformat|<pagename>}} functionality to current magic words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6092   +need-review (10siebrand)
[21:09:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgUseDynamicDates = false for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18479  (10wclark)
[21:12:23] <ialex>	those parserfunctions should be marked as expensive
[21:13:36] <RoanKattouw>	Merlissimo: if($t->equals($parser->getTitle())){
[21:13:38] <RoanKattouw>				global $wgUser;
[21:13:39] <RoanKattouw>				return $wgUser->getName();
[21:13:41] <RoanKattouw>			}
[21:13:47] <RoanKattouw>	That's evil, gonna change that
[21:14:44] <RoanKattouw>	Also changing new Article($t, 0) to new Article( $t ) and making coding style consistent
[21:17:22] <Marybelle>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18479#c7 Blocked on en.wiki so he's using Bugzilla as a wiki...
[21:17:24] <Marybelle>	FFS.
[21:20:49] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MPS:FAQ
[21:20:59] <Splarka>	well that's good to know, I guess I'd been using the unofficial one
[21:21:15] <Marybelle>	If it written on the Internet, it must be true.
[21:21:18] <Marybelle>	It's. *
[21:23:38] <chuck>	brion: why is the license vote on spi-inc.org?
[21:23:48] <chuck>	and when will the results be released? :P
[21:24:40] *Splarka 	dual-licenses his vote so that anyone else can use it (hint: it was 'Yes')
[21:25:27] <RoanKattouw>	hehe
[21:29:21] <chuck>	Splarka: I haven't really been following the stuff leading up to this license vote, which side is the community generally leading towards?
[21:29:53] <Splarka>	me either, who cares about the community
[21:30:34] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BITED  <-- order of importance
[21:32:39] <CIA-15>	03dale * r49574 10/branches/script-loader/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
[21:32:39] <CIA-15>	improvements to script-loader for wiki-text page imports
[21:32:39] <CIA-15>	* uses latest revision id of any included page for unique identifier in js include
[21:32:39] <CIA-15>	* has special case for handling the '-' generated page with skin param
[21:38:58] <brion>	http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/04/wikimedia-opting-out-of-phorm/
[21:39:09] <brion>	chuck: so we can't fudge the votes ;)
[21:41:26] <chuck>	brion: "we" being the wikimedia foundation? O_o
[21:41:32] <brion>	yes
[21:42:38] <chuck>	heh
[21:42:46] <chuck>	those crafty wikimedia foundationers
[21:47:02] <CIA-15>	03catrope * r49575 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/parser/CoreParserFunctions.php): (bug 6092) Add parser function equivalents of {{REVISIONID}}, {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} (and friends) and {{REVISIONUSER}} magic words. These parser functions are marked as expensive and cache their results
[21:48:05] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) add {{revisiontime:}}/{{lastrevision:}} colon/parser function or {{REVISIONtimeformat|<pagename>}} functionality to current magic words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6092  -need-review ; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[21:53:29] *Splarka 	invoices roan
[21:53:59] <RoanKattouw>	Good luck, I'm nearly broke
[21:55:40] <Splarka>	now someone is gonna want a parameter to specify oldids for those
[21:56:37] <RoanKattouw>	heh and what does {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:12345}} return when [[12345]] exists and it so happens that {{REVISIONID:12345}} != 12345 ?
[21:57:39] <CIA-15>	03dale * r49576 10/branches/script-loader/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
[21:57:40] <CIA-15>	* added jQuery class base include for all skins
[21:57:42] <CIA-15>	* updated autoload js classnames
[21:58:43] <Splarka>	Roan: it'd have to be a second parameter or named, then
[21:59:08] <RoanKattouw>	Like {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:page|revid}} ?
[21:59:09] <Splarka>	probably {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:Foobar|12345}} or {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:|12345}}
[21:59:15] <werdna>	whee, airport wifi
[21:59:29] <RoanKattouw>	Where ya going werdna?
[21:59:39] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SendMail   wat
[22:00:40] <werdna>	just melbourne today
[22:06:00] <CIA-15>	03tomasz * r49577 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionHistory_body.php: Skip over micropayments
[22:09:08] <CIA-15>	03yaron * r49578 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/SRF_ParserFunctions.php: Added 'static' declaration to all functions
[22:19:47] <werdna>	I've gotta head to the gate
[22:19:50] <werdna>	see you later :)
[22:20:47] <atglenn>	later!
[22:22:17] <Splarka>	tomaszf: but it is fun seeing the �1 payments with rude comments
[22:22:27] <tomaszf>	hehe
[22:23:22] <tomaszf>	this was mostly to capture all the .0 and .01 donations which were only filtered when there was  a comment
[22:24:33] <Merlissimo>	RoanKattouw thx
[22:26:44] <hezy>	Hi there wikipeople
[22:28:37] <CIA-15>	03dale * r49579 10/trunk/extensions/Gadgets/Gadgets.php: switched from addScript() call to addScriptFile() call to support scriptLoader
[22:31:04] <CIA-15>	03dale * r49580 10/branches/script-loader/ (includes/Skin.php mvwScriptLoader.php skins/MonoBook.php): corrected order of includes to match default skin (monobook)
[22:57:01] <CIA-15>	03dale * r49581 10/branches/script-loader/includes/ (AutoLoader.php JSMin.php minify/ minify/JSMin.php): moved minify code to its own directory (since the style sheet minify libs will have to be put in there as well)
[23:02:44] <CIA-15>	03tomasz * r49582 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionHistory_body.php: Upping to 100 comments at a time
[23:05:48] <CIA-15>	03tparscal * r49583 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/ (5 files): Added more robust documentation. Made drafts follow pages when moved. Fixed empty list bug when loading a draft of a deleted article.
[23:08:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483  +comment (10lejonel)
[23:08:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Implement the ScriptLoader into the core. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18464  (10dale)
[23:09:25] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Drafts extension doesn't handle page moves gracefully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17083  +comment (10tparscal)
[23:09:53] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Sharing of drafts between users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17087  +comment (10tparscal)
[23:13:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Tidy sucks, won't leave stuff alone - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2542  +comment (10siebrand)
[23:14:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Search button for Google toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4819  +comment (10siebrand)
[23:18:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) </sort> seems to collect footnote at the wrong place. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8207  (10siebrand)
[23:20:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) MediaFunctions extension: Add a function #mediapages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12108  (10siebrand)
[23:20:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request for "Refer A Friend" Extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12144  (10siebrand)
[23:24:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Strict warnings in Extension:GoogleMaps - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18278  (10siebrand)
[23:26:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restore revision numbers in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18242  (10siebrand)
[23:28:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) UserRightsNotif Extension blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18083  (10siebrand)
[23:28:43] <brion>	TrevorParscal: 		&$title = null, <- i don't think you need that &
[23:28:52] <brion>	avoid references in php unless you really need them
[23:30:00] <TrevorParscal>	brion: yeah, I saw those just a min ago actually
[23:30:06] <TrevorParscal>	please update the code now
[23:30:06] <CIA-15>	03tparscal * r49584 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/ (Drafts.classes.php Drafts.php): Added a selective pruning ratio. Removed some old references that aren't needed.
[23:30:14] <brion>	\o/
[23:30:54] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49585 10/trunk/extensions/UserRightsNotif/UserRightsNotif.php: 
[23:30:55] <CIA-15>	(bug 18083) Fatal errors in UserRightsNotif
[23:30:55] <CIA-15>	Fixed by using correct globals.
[23:31:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) UserRightsNotif Extension blocks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18083  +comment (10siebrand)
[23:31:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) action=opensearch documentation in API help shows "format -" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18003  (10siebrand)
[23:32:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) action=opensearch documentation in API help shows "format -" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18003  (10siebrand)
[23:34:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) MediaWiki:Deletequeue-prod-text should not be confined to five days. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17889  (10siebrand)
[23:38:17] <brion>	TrevorParscal: looks like you've got some hardcoded align=left in the drafts list table. this isn't friendly to RTL display :)
[23:38:57] <TrevorParscal>	brion: yeah... hmm well the centered headers looked ugly
[23:39:18] <TrevorParscal>	and confusing
[23:40:11] <brion>	well, you can either do this with a nice stylesheet or you can check based on $wgContLang->isRTL()
[23:40:23] <brion>	personally i recommend css :)
[23:40:32] <TrevorParscal>	the latter is ugly so yeah.. css it is
[23:40:36] <brion>	on RTL the body element will have an 'rtl' class
[23:40:47] <AaronSchulz>	brion: I wish CSS have >,<,= operators for classing
[23:40:59] <Splarka>	heh
[23:41:03] <TrevorParscal>	ok
[23:41:08] <Splarka>	could make a .softleft and .softright in shared.css
[23:41:11] <Splarka>	and reverse them in rtl.css
[23:41:21] <AaronSchulz>	like .stub-[>150]
[23:41:30] <brion>	.mycooltable td { text-align: left }
[23:41:35] <brion>	.rtl .mycooltable td { text-align: right }
[23:41:35] <AaronSchulz>	brion: it sucks how setting a stub threshold breaks cache totally
[23:41:41] <brion>	AaronSchulz: yes. yes it does
[23:42:04] <AaronSchulz>	it we could just put the size in the class and let css handle it, that would be sweet
[23:42:23] <Splarka>	as a series of "less than" ?
[23:42:27] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49586 10/trunk/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_vim/ (Syntax.php SyntaxHook.php vimrc.vim): (bug 17949) Add support to chose language and colorscheme to SyntaxHighlight_vim. Patch contributed by Ben Roberts.
[23:42:42] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Patch adding support to chose language and colorscheme to SyntaxHighlight_vim - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17949  +comment (10siebrand)
[23:42:50] <Splarka>	<a class="stub-lessthan-1000 stub-lessthan-500 stub-lessthan-250 stub-lessthan-100"> heh
[23:43:22] <brion>	you might be able to do that in css3, but nothing probably supports it ;)
[23:43:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Integrate TinyMCE into mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17668  (10siebrand)
[23:43:50] <Splarka>	faking 'less than' in binary using classes, smaller stub links get more classes
[23:44:00] <Splarka>	promoting stub growth X_X
[23:45:20] <TrevorParscal>	whats a good RTL language to test with?
[23:46:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Delete Extension:Passwordstr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17604  +comment (10siebrand)
[23:46:01] <Splarka>	ar
[23:46:20] <brion>	ar or he usually
[23:46:29] <Splarka>	He makes my voice squeaky
[23:47:19] <brion>	arrrrrr
[23:47:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Correct rendering of ViewAPC for non-latin characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17125  (10siebrand)
[23:49:16] <Farrendel>	I've got a strange problem and I'm hoping someone can help me... http://www.wyrmsnest.com/wantedpages.png
[23:49:33] <CIA-15>	03tparscal * r49587 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/ (Drafts.classes.php Drafts.css): RTL friendly alignment!
[23:49:37] <TrevorParscal>	brion: what about the index thing - that aaron brought up...
[23:49:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Login with temporarly new password fails when extension PasswordReset is installed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16673  (10siebrand)
[23:49:57] <Splarka>	Ydd, Ur, Arc, Ks, Dv, Ug_latn, Mzn, Sd, Cv, EnRtl, Arc, Ps, ... hmm
[23:50:24] <Splarka>	is en-rtl on any wmf wiki?
[23:51:10] <wikibugs>	06(LATER) SMILES support (or any other silimar specification) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16513  +comment (10siebrand)
[23:51:20] <Farrendel>	Any suggestions?
[23:51:44] <Splarka>	Farrendel: have {{#ifexist:Journal}} anywhere perchance?
[23:51:50] <brion>	is nowrap valid html4/xhtml 1?
[23:51:51] <Farrendel>	Nope
[23:52:06] <Farrendel>	Sorry, that was to Sparkla
[23:52:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Reverse Collapse button for rtl wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16863  +comment (10siebrand)
[23:52:27] <brion>	yep, it's legit
[23:52:33] <CIA-15>	03tparscal * r49588 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/Drafts.sql: Added index for performing updates based on page id, as used by the page move following functionality.
[23:52:40] *Farrendel 	apologises for any typos, it's rather late here...
[23:53:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Confirmation box after saving an edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16066  (10siebrand)
[23:53:49] <Splarka>	brion: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/whitespace.html
[23:54:13] <wikibugs>	06(LATER) Reverse Collapse button for rtl wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16863  +comment (10brion)
[23:54:33] *brion 	<3 quirksmode.org
[23:54:54] <siebrand>	Splarka: for testing only, IIRC.
[23:55:17] <Splarka>	hmm?
[23:55:21] <Farrendel>	Splarka>The Journal one actually vanished when I finally managed to get RefreshLinks to run (had to disable SyntaxHighlightGeSHi to do it oddly enough), but it was replaced by %PAGE% with 8 links, but I think that is something to do with DPL (I haven't had a chance to check the usage syntx hasn't changed for 1.14.0 yet).  My main concern is the other one, the "Invalid title"
[23:56:09] <Splarka>	maybe try cleanupTitles.php
[23:56:23] <Farrendel>	Tried that, it reports everything being ok
[23:56:44] <Splarka>	mm, well, what version are you running?
[23:56:59] <Farrendel>	1.14.0.  Just upgraded from 1.11.2
[23:57:02] <Splarka>	there was a bug in 1.13 and 1.14 (I think) that registered null titles in the links table for anchors
[23:57:08] <Splarka>	[[#foo]] for example
[23:57:17] <Farrendel>	Hmm
[23:57:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SharedUserRights should have a special page to list users with global rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16500  (10siebrand)
[23:58:23] *Splarka 	checks somefin
[23:58:44] <Farrendel>	Which links table would that be in?
[23:58:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Template Auto-Completion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15187  (10siebrand)
[23:59:06] <CIA-15>	03tparscal * r49589 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/Drafts.classes.php: Removed unwanted nowrap attributes.
[23:59:50] <Splarka>	Farrendel: the list of links for every page, used in generating backlinks, whatlinkshere, mostlinked, wantedpages, etc