[00:00:04] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16965 [00:01:28] 03(mod) GlobalUserRights defaults to Meta but does not work unless changed to a different wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15651 (10siebrand) [00:01:34] might not be the prob though... [00:02:10] 03(mod) List, count and search all books - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15074 (10siebrand) [00:02:24] Farrendel: can you link to your wiki? [00:02:28] 03(mod) Allow user accounts to be 'linked' to a master account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14409 (10siebrand) [00:03:11] 03(mod) Special:segapllA, or AllpagesReversed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2168 (10siebrand) [00:03:36] Splarka>http://www.wyrmsnest.com/planehopping but it's HNP protected with only Main_Page view rights for anons... [00:04:29] is the api enabled for reg users? if so you can test this bug by creating a sandbox with a [[#foo]] link and a [[regular]] link, and then check api.php?action=query&prop=links&titles=SandboxNameHere [00:04:57] Ummm... unless it is enabled by default, no... [00:05:12] it is enabled by default, go to index.php and replace it with api.php [00:05:16] 03(mod) Improve inline data editing with textual dialects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9536 (10siebrand) [00:05:22] (but it disables itself automatically if the user has no read rights) [00:05:49] Ahh [00:06:01] OK, hang on then let me check it [00:06:15] 03(mod) [[Section::...]] variables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1605 (10siebrand) [00:06:20] 03(mod) Request: properties in articles (structured data) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1911 (10siebrand) [00:07:36] [00:07:36] [00:07:36] [00:07:36] [00:07:41] Looks like it is... [00:08:11] k, so my guess is that is the invalid title [00:08:40] Strange... I don't recall using any anchors... oh well... is there a fix? [00:08:55] well, lots of things create anchor links, like Cite extension () [00:09:01] hmm [00:09:14] I thought it was going to be backported to 1.14 [00:09:17] *Splarka checks the branch [00:09:33] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45656 [00:10:26] right, that was on trunk though [00:10:36] ahh [00:10:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/47983 [00:11:03] however... [00:11:17] 1.14.0 was tagged in 47655 [00:11:22] so it'll be fixed in 1.14.1 [00:11:27] *Farrendel nods [00:11:32] you could apply that patch though [00:11:56] Howto? [00:12:12] dunno, something involving goat sacrifice probably [00:12:14] Oh wait... [00:12:22] *Splarka checks the file [00:12:30] Do I just replace my ParserOutput.php? [00:12:30] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/phase3/includes/parser/ParserOutput.php?view=log [00:12:40] yah, it only had that patch applied to it in the 1.14 branch [00:12:48] so should be safe to download/replace [00:13:45] In /includes/parser ? [00:14:00] yep [00:14:26] with -> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/phase3/includes/parser/ParserOutput.php?view=co that [00:15:15] Hmmm... still there... should I RefreshLinks again? [00:16:00] yah [00:16:11] Refreshing... [00:16:12] you have to re-parse any pages with that type of link [00:17:02] *Splarka pokles TimStarling to consider a 1.14.1 [00:19:46] hello [00:19:54] Splarka>Thank you very much. That appears to have fixed it. Now I can sleep, then look at why the %PAGE% is there (DPL related I think as that is what gets parsed on an empty pageset, and all of the listed links are from pages with DPL lists) [00:20:05] enjoy ^_^ [00:20:05] i have just installed media wikki on my internet server [00:20:26] it installed perfectly [00:20:41] however i cannot get the upload function to work [00:20:53] i have looked through the FAQ [00:21:21] soma>HAve you set $wgEnableUploads = true; in your Localsettings.php? [00:21:29] can some one please help me all i want is images on my wiki [00:21:33] yes [00:21:37] did that [00:21:48] Is the images directory write-enablede? [00:22:02] how does it know what dir? [00:22:13] there is no images dir [00:22:23] What OS is your server running on? [00:22:38] the internet? [00:22:42] A /images directory is created automatically as part of the install process [00:23:10] localserver is vie internet [00:23:35] should i manually create an images dir? [00:24:09] Hmmm... You might need to talk to your webspace provider then unless someone more knowledgable than me can help you :) [00:24:22] ok found images dir [00:24:41] permissions should be set to.... [00:25:16] im useing filezilla as an ftp if that helps [00:25:27] Soma>the /Mediawikinstallpath/images directory? [00:26:26] mediawikki/images [00:26:33] *Farrendel has just been instructed to head off to sleep.. probably sensible at 1:30am with work tomorrow... [00:26:52] Soma>Hopefully someone else can help you, sorry. [00:27:12] http://www.forbiddengates.comli.com/mediawiki/index.php [00:28:33] $wgEnableUploads = true; is set and now it brings me to upload page but says that (public) is not writable by the webserver [00:29:28] does any one know how to debugg or properly install the upload function [00:29:37] ? [00:30:57] is there any one there? [00:31:07] hello.. [00:35:48] Internal error [00:35:49] From Encyclopedia Hermetica [00:35:49] Jump to: navigation, search [00:35:49] The upload directory (public) is not writable by the webserver. [00:36:11] what do i do about that? [00:37:15] <^demon> somaheadstar: Don't copy+paste lots of text in the channel. And for what it's worth, it sounds like your webserver doesn't have write access to the /images folder [00:37:33] ok thank you [00:38:33] 03(NEW) API needs better throttling for expensive queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18489 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (public) [00:41:43] yesss! it works now! thank you so much #mediawiki / demon [00:45:51] ^demon: heh, don'tcopypaste was the solution apparently X_X [00:46:34] Splarka: /quote names solves all problems [00:47:00] <^demon> Splarka: I bundled two tidbits of info into my reply :) [00:48:02] Prodego: what irc client(s) subvert(s) the /names command? [00:48:23] Splarka: most will stop before giving you the list for a network this big [00:48:35] oh, without parameter, that's a bit nuts [00:48:52] yep, you don't stay on the network very long :) [00:49:01] right ^ [00:49:19] heh [00:49:21] oh hai marybelle... you must have seen that coming [00:49:22] noob [00:49:54] I have never actually managed to see the list.. I imagine you would been to be plugged in to all the severs via some sort of super cable [00:51:12] I imagine I'll keep doing that until I remember to add the damn qualifier. [00:53:06] <^demon> Damn, lots of fixme's on code review :) [00:54:46] Hi. User not seeing images on English Wikipedia. On Explorer and FF; has logged out so not user preferences issue; just tried japanese WP, same. Other computer on same connection works. [00:55:11] No firewall, have disabled Norton, same. No netnanny/filtering [00:55:11] Stopped working 2 weeks ago [00:55:45] Tell them to call the Geek Squad? [00:56:05] Kinda thought that was me :-) But I've run out of ideas, I think. [00:56:27] Note, it's *only* wiki's...images show on other websites [00:56:46] This channel is for MediaWiki support and development. [00:57:15] well, it's not working on wikipedia English and Japanese...sounds like a mediawiki q to me [00:57:36] Only if you don't understand the terminology. [00:57:51] werdna: Is there still work to be done on TorBlock to get those edits flagged in RC etc? [00:57:52] Then please enlighten me [00:58:04] <^demon> Simetrical: Ping [00:58:16] Mike_lifeguard: It's a social issue at this point, I think. [00:58:41] oh... I thought we already hashed it out [00:58:41] chzz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki [00:59:03] I doubt it. I strongly object. I imagine others will too. [00:59:18] OK, so. The mediawiki software is not displaying images for a user. [01:00:15] chzz: did they 'block images from this server' to upload.wikimedia.org perchance? [01:01:08] Splarka 2 browsers, same; not logged in, same; Japanese and English, same [01:01:31] Splarka firewall turned off/disabled; no filtering s/w [01:02:02] ^demon, pong [01:02:06] do images not on upload.wikimedia work? like skins/common ? [01:02:25] trying [01:02:41] Splarka can u give me a URL pls [01:03:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=1 [01:03:23] the arrows at the bottom [01:03:28] eg http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/arrow_right_25.png [01:03:31] kk will report back in a bit [01:03:47] (user has buggered off for a minute to try someth else) [01:08:24] <^demon> Simetrical: Did you go bold with the commit access page on mw.org? [01:14:17] ^demon, no, brion didn't say I could. :P [01:14:21] Splarka no, can't see arrow [01:15:03] Simetrical: He did, though... [01:15:06] You're just being thick. ;-) [01:15:33] chzz: can they see images at wikia.com ? [01:15:50] Did he? [01:15:54] Well, someone else can be bold. [01:16:01] I feel meek tonight. [01:16:11] Splarka linky pls? [01:16:11] Especially with two days' backlog of RSS feeds and e-mail to catch up on. [01:17:07] chzz: wikia.com ^_^ [01:17:36] pfft; doing [01:17:40] chzz: can they see wmf images directly by URL? http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/arrow_right_25.png and https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/skins-1.5/common/images/arrow_right_25.png and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Wikimedia_Conference_Berlin_-_Developer_meeting_%287690%29.jpg/200px-Wikimedia_Conference_Berlin_-_Developer_meeting_%287690%29.jpg [01:18:14] Simetrical: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2009-April/042594.html "This sounds wise." That's Brion lingo for "do it so I don't have to." [01:18:43] It'd be pretty hard to screw up a requests page... and even if you did, it's a wiki... [01:21:03] Splarka will find out; waiting for wikia feedback from user ATM [01:21:36] <^demon> Simetrical: Being bold doesn't require permission ;-) [01:21:46] Quite. [01:21:52] That's the entire point of the page... [01:22:02] That's a silly attitude. If people did that, we'd have anarchy. I mean, anyone could edit anything at any time! Madness! [01:22:27] Splarka mediawiki worked; will try others [01:22:32] *^demon welcomes Simetrical to the madhouse, and gives him a complimentary t-shirt [01:23:59] 'mediawiki'? [01:25:26] I already tried to explain... [01:25:51] <^demon> Simetrical: I'm being bold. [01:26:07] Be sure to document the page on already-exisiting pages. [01:26:21] Or just add a section here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access [01:26:44] A separate page sounds better. [01:27:03] Yes. [01:27:03] <^demon> I'm doing a separate page. [01:27:13] <^demon> So Brion/Tim have 1 place to look, and it's straightforward. [01:29:08] hi? [01:29:14] hola? [01:29:16] Splarka user has disappeared; another helper asked 'em to change nick; they were using the Java client; they quit to restart it with another nick and have failed to reappear as of now :-o [01:29:19] Hi! [01:29:23] there is somebody? [01:29:26] Hello. [01:29:27] I need help [01:29:37] !ask | nabian [01:29:37] --mwbot-- nabian: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. Also, please read < http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc > for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [01:30:02] I m the new admin if my group's wiki [01:30:09] <^demon> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access_requests - needs some lovin' now :) [01:30:10] I'm sick of that snippet including that distracting link. [01:30:43] !sofixit | Marybelle [01:30:47] <^demon> Marybelle: Likewise. I wonder how many people go off and read the link before coming back to ask their question :p [01:31:01] Splarka: About to. [01:31:06] And just for that, I'm doing it in here. [01:31:20] !ask del [01:31:20] --mwbot-- Successfully removed keyword: ask [01:31:21] and...I don't know how to give to a one particular user rights to change one specially page [01:31:36] !ask is Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [01:31:36] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: ask [01:32:00] !gethelp is Please read http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [01:32:00] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: gethelp [01:32:02] !ask [01:32:02] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [01:32:12] !gethelp [01:32:12] --mwbot-- Please read http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [01:32:17] I don't know how to give to a one particular user rights to change one specially page [01:32:21] Yes, the bot works... [01:32:56] nabian: That's not really possible with MediaWiki. [01:33:09] oh! [01:33:36] Splarka was a proxy setting. trying to get more info to know for next time. Will let u know. ty for helps [01:34:12] I just can unprotect the page?for regiter users only obviously [01:34:17] !prevacc | nabian [01:34:17] --mwbot-- nabian: For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [01:41:51] !prevacc | mwbot [01:41:51] --mwbot-- mwbot: For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [01:42:04] !help | mwbot [01:42:04] --mwbot-- mwbot: Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [01:42:30] Splarka You'll like this. User is from Syria; some ISP's there apparently make you go via a proxy that filters out WP images. User has changed to an open proxy somewhere, and Viola, all is well :-S [01:42:35] karun: To test the bot, please use #mwbot [01:42:39] but every body are blocked, I want give permisions to one user for modificate just one page...in that link mwbot there is just solutins for restict... [01:42:49] coulda mentioned the country of origin... [01:43:05] Splarka coulda asked '-) [01:43:26] Splarka I didn't think of it either. [01:43:47] some say it is rude to start all help sessions with "I need to know beforehand, are you an idiot?" [01:43:57] Tact is just not saying true stuff ^_^ [01:43:59] *Splarka hides [01:44:15] lulz [01:44:23] *chzz hides behind Splarka [01:44:51] So I cant give permisions to one specific user to modificate just one specific page??? [01:45:14] Not easily. [01:45:47] I dont care the way...Marybelle [01:45:49] !secrets !worstcase !morbo and !lockdown seem approprioate [01:45:55] ^appropriate [01:45:58] how can I do that? [01:46:03] !lockdown | nabian [01:46:03] --mwbot-- nabian: Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [01:46:13] might not be fine enough control, though [01:56:58] Splarka FYI (info from user) syrian telecom proxy goes from 82.137.200.5 to 15 [02:16:12] 03(NEW) Some Abuse Filter log entries shouldn't be there as the actions doesn't match the stated filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18490 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (mikelifeguard) [02:19:01] Marybelle FYI - did u c the outcome of that user help and chats w/ Splark.a ? [02:19:26] Yes. Proxy issue. [02:21:17] Marybelle yep, cool. ty for your input; I've noted it for my own future ref. - a bugger to sport. [02:21:43] <^demon|brb> Marybelle: [[Commit access requests]] could use some prettying and lovin' :) [02:21:47] Heh. No problem, I guess. [02:22:03] ^demon|brb: I saw. Looks decent enough. You want color or something? :P [02:22:10] Oh, I know. [02:24:10] how about an unmissable click link [02:24:26] 03(mod) Images on shared repositories can't be protected by cascading protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18483 (10royal_broil) [02:24:55] <^demon|brb> Marybelle: And infinite subpages. [02:25:05] <^demon|brb> And an auto-counting mechanism to see if there's consensus :D [02:29:19] <^demon> Is it just me, or is [[Project:Development team]] pretty useless. Most of that info is already on [[Developers]]. What's not could easily be incorporated into the latter. [02:29:31] Argh. [02:29:38] You and your Wikipedia links. :P [02:30:05] <^demon> I mean, I never refer to enwiki, I'm pretty much always referring to mediawiki.org :D [02:30:22] My linking script knows no difference. ;-) [02:30:33] <^demon> Your linking script fails. [02:31:26] No kidding. [02:31:39] It converts / to %2F and can't handle [[mw:Foo]] properly. [02:37:07] $wgSharedDB isn't cached anywhere, is it? [02:37:36] If I global it within a function and change it to null, will the shared tables be disabled, is what i'm asking [02:45:51] 03(FIXED) Search button for Google toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4819 +comment (10jasonspiro) [04:51:52] 14(WFM) Cite_body.php in http://upload.wikimedia.org/ext-dist/Cite-MW1.14-r45577.tar.gz apparently mishandles named refs having specified groups but no bodies. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18100 +comment (10bill.mitchell) [05:00:50] 03tstarling * r49590 10/trunk/udplog/demux.py: Restrict name characters to printable ASCII, to avoid crashing logrotate [05:26:18] 03(mod) add {{revisiontime:}}/{{lastrevision:}} colon/parser function or {{REVISIONtimeformat|}} functionality to current magic words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6092 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [05:27:55] 03aaron * r49591 10/trunk/extensions/Drafts/Drafts.classes.php: [05:27:55] * Made num() more consistent with get() [05:27:55] * Improved index usage of num() slightly [05:56:36] 03(mod) Suppression log filtered by "offender", as Oversight log can be. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18472 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:57:15] 03(NEW) Runtime Error on Line 13 on "My watchlist" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18491 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (clemenzi) [06:04:01] 03(mod) Suppressed edits reveal content when not logged on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18450 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [06:07:52] *Marybelle stares at AaronSchulz. Insightful bug comment. [06:09:39] ? [06:10:08] Ah, nevermind. I mis-read. [06:10:11] Never mind. * [06:10:20] *Marybelle missed an "already." [06:12:48] a commit() may do the trick [06:15:05] 03aaron * r49592 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: Tweak for bug 18450, commit the transaction before the purge is sent [06:15:45] 03(mod) Suppressed edits reveal content when not logged on - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18450 (10JSchulz_4587) [06:30:51] ugh, too many intermediate revs to do a clean sync [06:42:05] 03(mod) add {{revisiontime:}}/{{lastrevision:}} colon/parser function or {{REVISIONtimeformat|}} functionality to current magic words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6092 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [07:10:10] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Help:Page_validation / http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Help%3APage_validation ... okay, nothing links here.. wtf [07:12:13] You need referrer logs. [07:13:31] you're a referer log [07:14:05] Occasionally. [07:18:22] 03raymond * r49593 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/ (PhpVariables.php Wiki.php): Add comment lines introduced in r49558. [07:27:59] "Please note that just because you've listed your name here, doesn't mean that you'll get access." [07:28:19] Well, darn; never saw that coming! [07:29:10] *Emufarmers pokes Splarka [07:29:58] i'm building a wiki where i model history of a village. the village is split to collections of houses (=courtyard) and each courtyard is divided to individual buildings. the wiki contains multiple views on history (ie. 1953 and 1918 versions of the village) [07:30:06] on to my questions next :) [07:30:22] is there some way to enforce the structure of pages (ie. each "courtyard" page should be similar. same for houses of course). i suppose i should use templates for this? [07:31:48] if i use templates can i have the wiki provide right template for certain pages automatically (ie. suppose i create a new page for a building it would be nice to have right template visible there immediately)? [07:33:46] rar Emu [07:37:52] how does this look for a dry run AbuseFilter rule on mw.org? [07:37:53] user_age < 1800 [07:37:53] & action == "edit" [07:37:53] & article_recent_contributors == "" [07:40:30] I haven't bothered to try to learn the abuse filter voodoo yet [07:40:31] *Splarka pokles werdna [07:41:18] It's basically "an unregistered user or somebody who registered within the last 30 minuets creates a new page" [07:45:56] Splarka: what? [07:46:17] ^ Emufarmers prospective filter [07:46:19] Emufarmers: looks okay at first glance [07:47:56] Well, I'll add it in test mode and see what hits it gets [07:48:27] Please don't set it to block though [07:48:36] we don't actually want to block people from doing that [07:48:51] By "test mode" I meant not having it do anything and just "Flag the edit in the abuse log" [07:49:18] for the full implementation I didn't intend to have it more than giving them another warning [07:49:45] sounds like more random user irritation than it's worth IMO [07:50:17] heh, there should be an 'irritate' action [07:50:54] give them an unsolvable captcha, a 500, maybe a bad certificate warning, and if they make it past that let the edit go through [07:52:18] Werdna: I dunno: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:NewPages I'm not seeing pages that haven't been deleted that were by new uesrs or IPs [07:52:37] I could also make it not trigger for Manual: and Help:, I suppose [07:53:03] Maybe for User:, although we tend to end up deleting many of those too [08:04:26] is there a way to provide a list to template and to have it unpacked in it? i would like to provide names of the images to show inside . so basically i would want to have something like {mytemplate|description=fun stuff|images=monkey.png,cat.png} on the wiki page [08:06:21] i suppose i could do something like {mytemplate|description=fun stuff|image1=monkey.png|image2=cat.png} but that would feel clunky [08:07:11] moin [08:07:52] seems like you'd need StringFunctions to use a comma-delimited list [08:08:09] alright. i will take a look at that. thanks for the tip :) [08:08:17] but you could just do {{mytemplate|description=foo|monkey.png|cat.png...}} and check every numberred variable [08:08:41] okay [08:08:41] {{#if:{{{1|}}}|stuff}}\n{{#if:{{{2|}}}|stuff}}|{{#if:{{{3|}}}|stuff}} [08:08:47] 03aaron * r49594 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.class.php: profiling fix [08:08:53] up to like 100 max [08:10:57] is there some simple way to modify the content of new pages based on some given condition (ie. location of the new page on the page hierarchy)? [08:11:37] !e Preloader [08:11:37] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Preloader [08:11:59] excellent :) [08:12:40] there is also {{SUBPAGENAME}} and {{BASEPAGENAME}} (in core) as well as #titleparts (in ParserFunctions) [08:27:09] yellow on this fiiiine friday morning ... emph on FRIDAY!!! [08:27:10] :D [08:28:59] current SVN version is 15 right? [08:31:33] ... right?? [08:32:06] well 15alpha, dont think it's been packaged quite yet [08:34:27] it is just called "1.15" since the last branch was 1.14 and the last tag was 1.14.0 [08:34:33] one of these days there might be a 2.0 [08:34:44] *Splarka giggles, made a funny [08:36:02] 03siebrand * r49595 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/PhpVariables.php: Update file header comment regarding message documentation. Not all products use the same naming convention for message files. [08:39:03] werdna: you're still working on DeleteQueue? [08:40:21] Emufarmers: not really [08:40:44] Just curious whether it'll ever be ready for use [08:41:01] probably not, I've been told to work on other stuff [08:42:01] I thought developers worked on whatever they felt like? :D [08:42:15] not paid developers [08:42:30] and all my development currently is contract stuff for the foundation. [08:43:19] oh, didn't realize you were contracted [08:43:20] congrats [08:59:20] how do you CC multiple users in bugzilla? [09:01:58] 03(NEW) Oracle Single Schema database abstraction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18492 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (freak) [09:02:22] Comma-delimited list I imagine. [09:02:51] 03(mod) Oracle Single Schema database abstraction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18492 (10freak) [09:06:09] YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY ... my first patch submitted on public tracker :D [09:06:28] beers r on me!! [09:16:25] damn u ppl are strange ... guy offeres free beer and there's no reaction :S [09:16:39] they're all too drunk ^_^ [09:17:13] "too drunk" ... does not compute ... [09:17:59] well [09:18:14] Beer/IP protocol hasn't been finalized yet [09:19:59] lol ... just remembered the last time my boss actually paid attention to what i said ... there was a conference where we had a booth ... and besides having a working RAC (Real Application Cluster), we also had RBC (Real Beer Cluster) ... guess who's idea that was :D [09:41:52] lunch time :D [09:48:29] 03(mod) action=opensearch documentation in API help shows "format -" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18003 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [09:56:27] i have template such as {{mytemplate|description=foo|monkey.png|cat.png...}}. any idea why {{#if{{{9}}}|do stuff}} evaluates as true always even if i don't pass that many anonymous params to the template? [09:56:44] {{{9|}}} [09:56:54] oops :) [09:57:02] thanks [10:02:09] hi [10:02:43] some page_title are broken when migrating from mysql 4.1 to 5.0 [10:02:47] any advice ? [10:03:10] (seems to be only russian strings) [10:04:07] @meister: db charset diff? [10:04:43] freakolowsky: i have to check [10:08:02] check default-character-set settings on both version's my.cnf [10:14:38] 03(mod) API needs better throttling for expensive queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18489 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [10:16:01] magewhopper: the database is in latin1, the 4.1 server is in latin1 and the 5.0 in utf8 [10:19:04] that'll do it [10:19:50] @meister_: that is your problem ... russian special chars are not latin1 ... i once did such a port ... the only solution was a hp scpirt which created insert statements formated for utf8 :D ... oh the good ol days :D [10:22:24] freakolowsky: but it worked on the mysql 4.1 instance (ie I don't have broken characters) [10:22:57] some of the url are working in the mysql5 instance (there are composed of russian chars) [10:23:13] but some don't work [10:26:38] you'll need to run it through inconv or the sort [10:28:19] oh [10:29:19] MediaWiki treat utf-8 chars on latin1 (EUC) you might see installer's last question as "backwords compatible " means so [10:39:13] 03(mod) Oracle Single Schema database abstraction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18492 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [10:47:15] 03(mod) Oracle Single Schema database abstraction - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18492 (10freak) [10:49:33] 03raymond * r49596 10/trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): * (bug 18474) Moving ku-arab content to ckb [10:55:04] 03raymond * r49597 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesKu_arab.php: Follow up r49596: Add fallback for ku-arab [10:59:11] 03(FIXED) Moving ku-arab content to ckb - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18474 +comment (10raimond.spekking) [11:12:49] suppose i have pages each of which belong to some category. these pages contain links to new, not yet created pages. is it possible to provide the user a specific kind of new page (ie. the new page should use some template by default) based on this information (category of parent)? [11:13:10] i know there are extensions that allow one to use namespaces this way [11:13:56] Didn't I already link you to an extension for that? [11:14:10] whoops. gotta check :) [11:14:12] oh, wait [11:14:14] category of parent [11:15:35] i haven't seen anything ready made so i suppose i have to whip up something on my own :) [11:15:38] mmm... [11:15:51] I'm afraid so: all such extensions that I know of are namespace-based [11:15:58] you could use MediaWiki:Newarticletext ... and #switch and #titleparts... and &editintro and &preload [11:16:07] but yah, based on title [11:16:36] (or use javascript + api, actually check the categories, prefill the textarea with a template) [11:26:45] 03(mod) MIME type detection of "application/x-php" gives false positives on any file with " 04(REOPENED) PNG transparency fixes for IE users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2074 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [11:30:31] 03(mod) Incorrect semantics for PNG images on IE 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18470 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [11:41:34] i figured out that you can get the basename of the new page title via php. the question is how do i check in which categories does the page with this given name belong to? [11:57:54] hi everybody, I'd like to add checkboxes on the signup form. If the user checks for example the checkbox "partner", a field appears so that he enters a partner password (which is stored in the database). If this is the right password and everything is ok, he will be automatically added to the "Partners" group. I already added the checkboxes in the form, in the UserLogin template. [11:58:22] But now I need to make sure he entered the right password and add him to the right group if everything is ok [11:58:27] do you have any idea ? [12:05:42] that seems pretty trivial, what's the problem? [12:13:07] 03(mod) Tweak HTML for preview bar (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18438 +comment (10happy-melon) [12:19:21] 03(NEW) Unify various deletion systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18493 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (FT2.wiki) [12:21:08] 03(mod) Unify various deletion systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18493 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [12:22:01] uhh [12:22:27] doesn't RevisionDelete delete revisions, not articles? [12:23:06] Yes [12:23:27] Then how could you jus do away with regular deletion? [12:24:40] 03(mod) Unify various deletion systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18493 (10FT2.wiki) [12:25:27] what happens if you delete *all* revisions of an article? [12:26:22] You can't [12:26:42] Try it :) [12:26:57] for a moment, imagine you could [12:27:02] what happens when you delete all the revisions? [12:27:27] The article would get deleted, I guess? [12:27:37] indeed [12:28:12] So he really wants regular deletion to be re-implemented as deleting every revision of the article? [12:28:33] that's what it does right now [12:29:15] Well, if they were the same system, and you deleted a revision, and then you undeleted the article, wouldn't that revision you deleted first be undeleted too? [12:31:49] depends on code implemention [12:33:16] Oh look, it's FT2 :) [12:33:30] *FT2 is dragified along? :) [12:34:10] We're have a few questions about your new bug [12:34:22] go for it [12:36:18] [08:23] doesn't RevisionDelete delete revisions, not articles? [12:37:04] Let me know when the catch-up is pasted, and replies or comments wanted? [12:38:34] http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20090417.txt [12:39:05] reading [12:39:57] caught up [12:40:44] yes, basically thats so. There is already a bug/enhancement under discussion (I'll look up the ref if needed) that would allow revisiondeleted to be applied to multiple diffs (using checkboxes etc) much as normal deletion is [12:41:19] normal deletion is basically, "delete every revision" behind the scenes anyway [12:41:38] as witness you can undelete individual revs, or use the same page to delete selected revs [12:42:10] If you delete a particular revision and then delete the page and undelete the page, that first revision stays deleted, doesn't it? [12:42:13] so if you revisiondelete all revisions, and prevent public view, you've effectively got the identical action [12:42:33] I could be wrong - its not an experiment I've tried [12:42:37] my understanding is no [12:42:46] Really? I'll test [12:42:56] I ask because that seems like it's a desirable and important property [12:42:57] it doesnt have memory, or a "stack" or what was deleted before other delete/undelete actions [12:43:02] yesd it does [12:43:05] agree [12:43:18] huh? [12:43:25]