[00:05:47] <UserHH43>	br aqui?
[00:22:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding can hide a bit too well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18531  (10FT2.wiki)
[00:35:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) database error occurs while saving a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17275  (10JSchulz_4587)
[00:45:22] <bogdan>	hey.
[00:45:52] <bogdan>	is it possible to use the mediawiki parser without having to save the wiki-code to database?
[00:46:41] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49849 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Parenthesis style tweak
[00:46:56] <Splarka>	you can use preview, or live preview, or action=parse on the api, or Special:ExpandTemplates
[00:46:57] <bogdan>	for instance, if I give input "{{test1|something}} [[some link]]", I want mediawiki to give the result
[00:48:20] <bogdan>	I don't want preview because I can't automate it.
[00:51:04] <svip>	warning  : 1 client is using or hasn't closed the table properly
[00:51:12] <svip>	Should I be worried about messages like that?
[00:55:37] <bogdan>	Splarka: hm... it seems that action=parse is what I need. thanks.
[00:57:13] <chuck>	bogdan: There's a snippet of code for sandbox parsing on the mediawiki.org wiki
[00:57:20] <chuck>	Somewhere on [[Manual:Special pages]] I think
[00:58:31] <CIA-15>	03dale * r49850 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/ (11 files in 7 dirs): 
[00:58:31] <CIA-15>	another (debug) commit of the upload branch
[00:58:31] <CIA-15>	integrated fixes to the http class
[00:59:38] <bogdan>	chuck: that might be useful as well, thanks.
[01:10:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Merge new-upload branch (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18563  (10dale)
[01:25:48] <hangfromthefloor>	Can somebody help me out? Sortable tables aren't working
[01:25:51] <Laire>	Hi, somebody out there?
[01:25:58] <hangfromthefloor>	I'm running 1.14.0
[01:27:12] <Emachman>	!ask | Laire
[01:27:12] --mwbot--	Laire: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp
[01:29:36] <Laire>	How i get <br /> in a template? Example: |a=text text <br /> text text     ----  {{{a}}} doesnt work
[01:33:01] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49851 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Tweak for bug 17275: no need to lock other session reads just for consistent reads here
[01:40:11] <hangfromthefloor>	Yeah, so... I still don't get why sortable isn't working...
[01:43:03] <Splarka>	hangfromthefloor: what are the symptoms of nonworkitude?
[01:43:08] <Splarka>	any JS console errors?
[01:43:37] <hangfromthefloor>	Let me check, but so far, I click on the arrows, and it takes me to the page + '#' in the URL and doesn't sort
[01:44:15] <Splarka>	odd, because in order to init those links, it has to work a little bit
[01:44:27] <hangfromthefloor>	Error: ts_sort_caseinsensitive is not defined
[01:44:29] <hangfromthefloor>	Source File: (mw)/index.php?title=-&action=raw&smaxage=0&gen=js&useskin=monobook
[01:44:31] <hangfromthefloor>	Line: 67
[01:44:57] <Splarka>	do you have sortable tables in your Common.js ?
[01:45:31] <hangfromthefloor>	I believe so
[01:45:33] <Splarka>	they're part of core, in wikibits.js
[01:45:40] <hangfromthefloor>	I believe not
[01:45:49] <Splarka>	believe what you want
[01:45:56] <Splarka>	you have 1.14?
[01:46:00] <hangfromthefloor>	yes
[01:46:14] <hangfromthefloor>	the functions are all in common.js, it seems
[01:46:19] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/phase3/skins/common/wikibits.js?view=log
[01:46:25] <Splarka>	specifically: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/phase3/skins/common/wikibits.js?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain
[01:46:37] <Splarka>	 * Table sorting script based on one (c) 1997-2006 Stuart Langridge and Joost
[01:46:58] <Splarka>	you should just be able to add class="sortable" to a table with core JS and get basic table sorting
[01:47:11] <Splarka>	we can't really debug your Common.js for you
[01:47:18] <hangfromthefloor>	 I never edited common.js
[01:47:25] <hangfromthefloor>	it's the default when mediawiki was set up
[01:47:48] <Splarka>	that is blank by default
[01:48:33] <hangfromthefloor>	eh
[01:48:40] <Splarka>	'common.js'      => '/* Any JavaScript here will be loaded for all users on every page load. */', # only translate this message to other languages if you have to change it
[01:48:44] <Splarka>	'monobook.js'    => '/* Any JavaScript here will be loaded for users using the MonoBook skin */', # only translate this message to other languages if you have to change it
[01:49:05] <Splarka>	those are combined in gen=js that you mentioned above
[01:49:15] <Splarka>	so check what is in those that could be interfering
[01:50:36] <hangfromthefloor>	monobook.js is blank
[01:50:43] <hangfromthefloor>	common.js is full of stuf
[01:50:50] <Splarka>	can you pastebin it?
[01:50:58] <hangfromthefloor>	i'd be happy to, do you hae a preferred one?
[01:50:59] <Splarka>	http://p.defau.lt/new.html
[01:51:53] <hangfromthefloor>	here you are : http://p.defau.lt/?3xd77Bu4uNTukmzIAGjovw
[01:52:33] <Splarka>	ahh, you've got someone's custom sortable tables there
[01:52:38] <Splarka>	where'd ya get it?
[01:52:56] <hangfromthefloor>	Who knows...  I installed 1.14  upgrading on 1.9
[01:53:16] <Splarka>	check the history of common.js, see who added it?
[01:53:26] <hangfromthefloor>	from an old wiki my friend previously shut down on his server but sent me to preserve
[01:53:44] <hangfromthefloor>	lawl i think it was me
[01:53:48] <p858snake>	the old versions didn't have it as core and it had to be added by hand
[01:53:54] <hangfromthefloor>	(cur) (prev) 22:17, 17 February 2008 xxxx (Talk | contribs | block) (Copied js from meta)
[01:54:09] <Splarka>	heh
[01:54:11] <hangfromthefloor>	:D
[01:54:16] <hangfromthefloor>	I can get rid of it ??
[01:54:23] <hangfromthefloor>	(I don't even remember doing this .... )
[01:54:26] <Splarka>	probably, hmm
[01:54:31] <Splarka>	don't delete it all
[01:54:38] <hangfromthefloor>	comment I guess
[01:54:40] <Splarka>	//Overrides the function with the same name in http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/common/wikibits.js
[01:54:52] <Splarka>	/** Collapsible tables *********************************************************
[01:55:00] <Splarka>	you can probably safely delete everything between those
[01:55:15] <Splarka>	(leaving the last line as the opening comment to the next section of course)
[01:55:40] <hangfromthefloor>	I get it, yeah. now checking if it works ...
[01:56:03] <hangfromthefloor>	hmm
[01:56:25] <hangfromthefloor>	Okay, great
[01:56:26] <Splarka>	worst case, delete it all, but then you lose collapsable tables
[01:56:34] <hangfromthefloor>	Thanks so much, you're so helpful :)
[01:56:39] <Splarka>	rar
[01:56:58] <hangfromthefloor>	(better Greader extension is burping up JS errors every .5 second... )
[01:57:20] <hangfromthefloor>	(getting annoying trying to debug JS )
[01:57:36] <hangfromthefloor>	Okay so now a question about sorting :
[01:57:49] <hangfromthefloor>	(because the Help:Sorting is too incomprehensible )
[01:58:21] <hangfromthefloor>	If I have data in the form  1957-1958, 1958-1959, 1959-1960  etc. in one column, shoudl I define it as number? currency? default ?
[02:06:52] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49852 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevision.php: Limit locking in newFromTitle() too
[02:07:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) database error occurs while saving a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17275  (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:08:16] <hangfromthefloor>	no clue?
[02:10:58] <hangfromthefloor>	okay then, thanks for your help on that Splarka
[02:11:02] <hangfromthefloor>	i'm out of here
[02:15:15] <Laire>	ow i get <br /> in a template? Example: |a=text text <br /> text text ---- {{{a}}} doesnt work
[02:27:17] <Splarka>	Laire: not sure, but try {{{1}}} instead of {{{a}}} just as a test
[02:28:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding can hide a bit too well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18531  +comment (10FT2.wiki)
[02:33:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) hideuser doesn't check all log types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18568  (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:35:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding can hide a bit too well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18531  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:39:37] <wikibugs>	06(LATER) Add 'hideuser' right to CheckUser group Wikimedia-wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18313  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:39:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding can hide a bit too well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18531  (10FT2.wiki)
[02:40:45] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) hideuser doesn't check all log types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18568  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:40:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RevisionDelete: hidden users appear in log entries created after the hiding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18383  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:48:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) replace "show/hide" by an icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18577 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (FT2.wiki)
[02:49:41] <Splarka>	ew, icon
[02:50:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hiding can hide a bit too well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18531  (10FT2.wiki)
[02:50:37] <MrZ-man>	perhaps an animated gif of something disappearing and reappearing
[02:51:00] <Splarka>	a magician with a rabbit
[02:51:18] <MrZ-man>	or just an image of the text "show/hide"
[02:51:26] <Splarka>	perfect! siebrand will love that
[02:53:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) replace "show/hide" by an icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18577  +comment (10FT2.wiki)
[02:54:41] <p858snake>	icons ftl
[03:34:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Zh traditional/simplified conversion for NON rendered HTML too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13840  (10shinjiman)
[03:34:40] <Banaticus>	to make an image... have no border around it, centered, 40px wide, with the caption of "Archives", I'm using [[Image:Replacement filing cabinet.svg|location=center|40px|Archives]] -- but I'm not getting the caption, I've tried alt=, text=. caption=
[03:35:07] <Banaticus>	I've tried using the image template instead of the link, but there's virtually no documention for it, which is somewhat frustrating
[03:39:08] <p858snake>	try [[Image:Replacement filing cabinet.svg|location=center|40px||Archives]] might work iirc
[03:46:23] <CIA-15>	03philip * r49853 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php: Allowed to find variant link when use #ifexist.
[03:48:57] <Banaticus>	Is it possible to search for all edits made by a particular user... which resulted in the page size increasing by at least 100 bytes?
[03:49:26] <Splarka>	having a caption is contrary to not having a border
[03:49:38] <Splarka>	if you want both, you'll have to attach the caption manually, like via a table cell
[03:49:47] <Banaticus>	Eh, I'm just sticking it in a seperate div and changing the size manually
[03:49:53] <Splarka>	right
[03:50:30] <Splarka>	<div style="text-align:center;">[[Image:Wiki.png|40px]]<br/>caption</div>
[03:50:33] <Banaticus>	I'd like to find articles that (over the years) I've contributed significantly to, but I tend to edit in "lumps", I usually preview/preview/preview and then commit and I have a lot of antivandalism edits that I really don't want to wade through
[03:50:33] <Splarka>	laziest method
[03:51:24] <Splarka>	hmm
[03:51:33] <Splarka>	not really, but you can hide 'minor' and such in the api
[03:53:04] <Splarka>	but the api doesn't show sizes, hmm, and can't use usercontribs as a generator...
[03:53:45] <Splarka>	no real good solution for that
[04:00:05] <aib>	can CategoryTree be collapsed by default but have a hidden depth of three?
[04:00:16] <aib>	i can't seem to get both worlds..
[04:12:35] <Banaticus>	Ok, I could run the API and ignore all edits with the text "(HG)" and ignore anything where the link name had the text "talk" in it and get the diff numbers for all the rest, then with rvprop, I could get the size of the edit.  Then I could filter out all of those that were less than 100 bytes, then display a diff link to the edits that remain in a list... if I could figure out how to use the API
[04:15:13] <Splarka>	yah, that'd be multiple queries...
[04:16:02] <Splarka>	what I'd do is dump a list of all my contrib revids: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=usercontribs&ucshow=!minor&ucprop=ids&ucuser=Splarka&uclimit=max  (and query-continue until I had them all)
[04:16:13] <Banaticus>	Do I just put my queries right in the text of the page?  For instance, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=links&titles=Main%20Page would be all my links from the main page?
[04:16:37] <Banaticus>	I mean right in the HTML address of the page
[04:18:38] <Splarka>	well, yah, you can use GET or POST
[04:20:54] <IanManka>	when using Cite.php, can you have multiple groups with only one reference?
[04:21:15] <CIA-15>	03philip * r49854 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Update the Chinese conversion tables.
[04:22:01] <IanManka>	or, rather, the question should be listing multiple groups on one reference
[05:13:31] <CIA-15>	03philip * r49855 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[05:13:31] <CIA-15>	Enabled LanguageConverter on extension:CategoryTree.
[05:13:31] <CIA-15>	Convert title text displayed in Category with title mode.
[05:19:59] <CIA-15>	03philip * r49856 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTreeFunctions.php: Use $wgContLang->convertHtml() instead of htmlspecialchars().
[06:02:54] <Nikerabbit>	hmm
[06:03:12] <Nikerabbit>	someone is writing "full" openid implementation in php
[06:11:14] <simonrvn>	isn't there one written already? more than one, IIRC.
[06:16:29] <Nikerabbit>	simonrvn: dunno, just seems weird
[06:16:56] <simonrvn>	it does
[06:19:17] <Nikerabbit>	I wonder under which project it is
[06:19:31] <Nikerabbit>	under joomla ircc or osmething
[06:31:20] <simonrvn>	ugh, joomla.
[06:56:23] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Garbled type on my wikipedia.org site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18576  04CRIT->normal; -schema-change ; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[06:57:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Query pages should limit to content namespaces, not just main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8130  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[06:58:08] <OverlordQ>	rofl, how'd that get tagged as a schema change lol
[07:05:46] <p858snake>	OverlordQ: newbie not knowing how to use bugzilla of course
[07:39:49] <magewhopper>	!graph
[07:39:49] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "graph".
[07:39:53] <magewhopper>	:(
[07:39:58] <magewhopper>	!timeline
[07:39:58] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "timeline".
[07:40:14] <magewhopper>	...
[07:40:27] <Splarka>	!botinfo | magewhopper
[07:40:27] --mwbot--	magewhopper: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me.
[07:41:19] <magewhopper>	o I see
[07:41:26] <magewhopper>	thanks splarka
[07:56:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Problem with Interface translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18578 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (xarak)
[08:08:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Transcluded Special:Newpages and Special:Newimages expose strip markers and desanitize html when returning zero results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  (10paul.copperman)
[08:37:00] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49857 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
[08:37:00] <CIA-15>	* Move HTML para from message to code in 'smw_exportrdf_docu', 'smw_uri_doc', 'smw_sbv_docu', 'smw_sbv_novalue'
[08:37:00] <CIA-15>	* disable 'smw_sbv_noproperty'. Appears to be unused
[08:37:00] <CIA-15>	* minor content update for 'smw_uri_doc'
[08:40:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) database error occurs while saving a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17275  (10forrester.wikipedia)
[08:44:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deadlock FlaggedRevision::insertOn while saving a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17275  summary; +comment (10siebrand)
[08:48:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Fatal error in LqtBaseView.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18037  summary; +comment (10siebrand)
[08:50:15] <CIA-15>	03rainman * r49858 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/src/org/wikimedia/lsearch/config/GlobalConfiguration.java: Fix custom namespace score boosts (e.g. for commons), should check keys not objects here
[08:52:26] <CIA-15>	03thomasv * r49859 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/proofread_index.js: minor
[09:03:06] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49860 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Credits.php languages/messages/MessagesQqq.php): Allow gender based localisation for 'lastmodifiedatby'
[09:05:21] <Prom_cat>	How would i change the tab text for the article namespace, IE instead of article and discussion >> recipie and discussion
[09:06:35] <Splarka>	you want to change the english text to those? 
[09:06:50] <Prom_cat>	Yep
[09:07:23] <Splarka>	MediaWiki:nstab-main for the main
[09:07:45] <Splarka>	and I think MediaWiki:Talk for the other, but that will (if it is the right message) change it for all namespaces
[09:08:10] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49861 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/languages/MV_Messages.php: use plural in 'mv-category-media-count'
[09:09:08] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: And how can i Add a tab?
[09:09:12] <p858snake>	[[MediaWiki:Talk]] for the talkpages and [[MediaWiki:Article]] for the pages
[09:09:24] <p858snake>	thats to change the text
[09:09:30] <Prom_cat>	ok
[09:09:31] <Prom_cat>	thats done
[09:09:49] <Prom_cat>	Now i want to add a tab called comments that will link to Comments:{{PAGENAME}}
[09:09:59] <Splarka>	javascript
[09:10:14] <Splarka>		'talk' => 'Discussion',
[09:10:16] <p858snake>	!man Interface#Localizing_the_interface | Prom_cat
[09:10:16] --mwbot--	Prom_cat: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface%23Localizing_the_interface
[09:10:20] <Splarka>	it has been that way for years
[09:10:54] <Prom_cat>	Yeah but this guy wants Recipie, Discussion, Comments
[09:11:12] <Prom_cat>	So i need to add a tab after discussion for him :/
[09:11:19] <Splarka>	I mean 'Talk' has been 'Discussion'
[09:13:20] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49862 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/languages/MV_Messages.php: Consistency updates for 'mv_move_delete_msg', 'mv_add_stream_page', and 'mv_list_streams_page'
[09:14:40] <Splarka>	p858snake: So what exactly does [[MediaWiki:Article]] control? not the nstab
[09:14:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) robots.txt exclusions for sv.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18565  (10davidohlin)
[09:15:59] <Splarka>	Prom_cat: you can either add new tabs in javascript, or use an extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinTemplateTabs
[09:16:07] <p858snake>	Splarka: no idea, it's just what i found first on en.wiki
[09:16:16] <p858snake>	it might be from a older version or something
[09:16:56] <Splarka>	bah, if you don't actually know at least disclaim with "AFAIK" or "so I heard"
[09:17:02] <Splarka>	you sounded too confident, heh
[09:17:22] <p858snake>	hey... i gave a man page for said persion to look at
[09:17:46] <Prom_cat>	ok
[09:17:54] <Prom_cat>	well i found something similar to what im after
[09:17:56] <Prom_cat>	(i think)
[09:18:01] <Prom_cat>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Purgetab
[09:18:04] <Splarka>	JS is a nice quick solution until you get around to the extension
[09:18:06] <Prom_cat>	That adds a purge tab
[09:18:42] <Prom_cat>	is it easy enough to modify that to say comments and to link to Comments:PAGENAME
[09:19:22] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) robots.txt exclusions for sv.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18565  +comment (10p858snake)
[09:19:26] <Splarka>	be sure to restrict namespaces it triggers on
[09:19:55] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: http://www.impublished.org/wordpress/adding-custom-tabs-to-mediawiki/
[09:20:01] <Prom_cat>	I think i found a better way :)
[09:21:27] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49863 10/trunk/extensions/IMStatus/IMStatus.i18n.php: Update capitalisation in 'imstatus_live_get_code'
[09:21:47] <Splarka>	Prom_cat: that is absolutely not better
[09:21:58] <Splarka>	it is a nasty mix of javascript and core file hacking
[09:22:26] <Splarka>	plus it is quite out of date
[09:22:42] <Prom_cat>	oh dammit, i didnt see the core file hacking :/
[09:22:44] <Splarka>	you can add the tab with one line of javascript if you are really lazy, or as you pointed out a 20 line extension
[09:22:59] <Splarka>	here...
[09:24:50] <Prom_cat>	The one line of javascript  being :)
[09:25:43] <Splarka>	if(wgNamespaceNumber == 1 || wgNamespaceNumber == 2) wgaddOnloadHook(function() { addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgScript + '?title=' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle),'Comment','p-comment','Comment on this page','',document.getElementById('ca-talk')) })
[09:25:47] *Splarka 	tests it now
[09:26:50] <Splarka>	oops
[09:26:53] <Splarka>	few typoes, fixing
[09:26:59] <Prom_cat>	:0
[09:27:05] <Splarka>	was typing fast, heh
[09:27:06] <Prom_cat>	trying to give me dodgy code!
[09:27:07] <Prom_cat>	:P
[09:27:39] <Splarka>	trying, yes
[09:27:43] <p858snake>	Prom_cat: you should whip him for the incorrect code >.>
[09:27:50] <Prom_cat>	"Ill just write this guy a virus" - Oh sorry, it was a typo!
[09:28:25] <Splarka>	if(wgNamespaceNumber == 1 || wgNamespaceNumber == 2) addOnloadHook(function() { addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgScript + '?title=' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle),'Comment','ca-comment','Comment on this page','',document.getElementById('ca-talk')) })
[09:28:44] <Prom_cat>	p858snake: Mummy told me not to listen to serpants, especially the sort with apples
[09:28:57] <p858snake>	but i haz no apples
[09:28:58] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: And i add this where?
[09:29:07] <Splarka>	you could make it more complex of course, to insert it right after the talk page link, rather than before
[09:29:10] <Splarka>	!js
[09:29:10] --mwbot--	To set up custom javascript on a wiki, edit the page called [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] (NOT a file, a page on your wiki, which is included via <script>) as a sysop. If $wgAllowUserJs is true in LocalSettings.php, you may also edit the /monobook.js (assuming your skin is monobook) subpage of your userpage.
[09:33:05] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: No worky :/
[09:33:21] <Prom_cat>	http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/wiki/Buddha%27s_Delight
[09:33:33] <Prom_cat>	http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js
[09:34:26] <Splarka>	here is an idea most people seem to overlook: add it to the top, so when something else breaks, it isn't my code's fault
[09:34:57] <Prom_cat>	lol
[09:35:14] <Splarka>	check your js error console
[09:35:34] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: what help do you need?
[09:35:49] <Splarka>	hmm
[09:36:00] <Splarka>	oops, another typo, heh
[09:36:04] <Splarka>	sigh
[09:36:13] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: Its at the top and STILL NO WORKY
[09:36:15] <Splarka>	if(wgNamespaceNumber == 0 || wgNamespaceNumber == 1) addOnloadHook(function() { addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgScript + '?title=' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle),'Comment','ca-comment','Comment on this page','',document.getElementById('ca-talk')) })
[09:36:19] <Splarka>	there, damn zero index namespaces
[09:36:19] <Prom_cat>	its a virus i knew it :P
[09:36:29] *Splarka 	blames benadryl
[09:36:53] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: I suggest you check out http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_Development and more particularly http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion/auto-props and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Subversion/layout
[09:37:04] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18577 
[09:37:04] <Splarka>	<MrZ-man> or just an image of the text "show/hide"
[09:37:05] <Splarka>	<Splarka> perfect! siebrand will love that
[09:37:05] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: please let us know what questions you have after that.
[09:37:14] *siebrand 	raises and eyebrow.
[09:37:37] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: well, ok
[09:38:05] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: :'(
[09:38:07] <p858snake>	people need to die for suggestion, most icons int he interface don't look good espically on monobook tbh
[09:38:16] <p858snake>	*most icons in the
[09:38:23] <siebrand>	MediaWiki uses 'revision' and 'version' inconsistently. To me there is no difference, really. What should be the preferred term?
[09:38:35] <Splarka>	Prom_cat: use the fixed version and it works, (works now in Talk namespace, heh)
[09:38:39] <siebrand>	(I like version, as it may be easier for non-native speakers)
[09:39:04] <p858snake>	i think the term revision is most popular for article edits and such
[09:39:05] <Splarka>	depends on context, heh... if talking about mediawiki: revision is a commit, version is a release
[09:39:27] <Splarka>	if talking about a page: revision is an edit, and version is a status, that can be identical among different revisions (reverted vandalism)
[09:39:31] <siebrand>	Splarka: talking about the UI of the product MediaWiki
[09:39:33] <Splarka>	if talking about images: same thing
[09:40:05] <Splarka>	UI of MediaWiki...? wat
[09:40:13] <Splarka>	revisions of the UI?
[09:40:31] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: readed all i guess. i have putty, tortoise svn, pageant, putty is connecting to svn i think, but what next should i do to actually browse svn?
[09:40:48] <Splarka>	ahh, commit stuff, *hides*
[09:41:02] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: You commit stuff?
[09:41:07] *Prom_cat 	hidexs
[09:41:14] <Splarka>	no, I hide from discussions about it, I commit crimes against humanity
[09:41:26] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: mmm yes well http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js
[09:41:30] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: that's what you use Tortoise for. You are new to using it?
[09:41:37] <Prom_cat>	It doesnt seem to work still
[09:41:38] <ruizpeel>	totally
[09:41:45] <Prom_cat>	http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/wiki/Buddha%27s_Delight
[09:41:57] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: OK, you you find a Toirtoise manual.
[09:42:29] <Splarka>	Prom_cat: http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Buddha%27s_Delight  WFM
[09:42:41] <Splarka>	you seem yo have a stubborn cache
[09:42:45] <p858snake>	Prom_cat: try clearing your cache
[09:43:04] <Splarka>	p858snake: pragma no-cache doesn't even purge it
[09:43:08] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/release/TortoiseSVN_en/
[09:44:08] <Splarka>	so not prom's fault that it is sticky
[09:44:15] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: play around a bit in read only mode. You can use http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk for that.
[09:44:33] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: We use E Accelerator (Main) and Memcache (Parser)
[09:44:35] <Splarka>	I am super-hard-reloading http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/w/index.php?title=-&action=raw&gen=js&useskin=monobook and it is stuck on an old version in my browser
[09:44:39] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: when you think you are ready, commit http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/USERINFO/<yourusername> with some info.
[09:44:42] <Splarka>	but other browsers load the new one
[09:45:13] <Splarka>	anyway, it should/will work, wait for expiry, heh
[09:45:16] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: you can check out and commit using svn+ssh://<yourusername>@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki if brion created an account for you and added your public key to that account.
[09:45:29] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: I can expire it by making a change to LS right?
[09:46:14] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: yeah i probably try this one instead of reading whole manual
[09:46:20] <Splarka>	dunno, might have to sacrifice a goat
[09:46:34] <Splarka>	SEP ^_^
[09:47:00] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: wow, and here it is!
[09:48:51] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: so the change works? What would cause a sticky cache?
[09:49:15] <Splarka>	internet gremlins
[09:49:50] <Splarka>	can't help ya with that sorta thing, all evil voodoo to me
[09:50:10] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49864 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Change version to revision in a few places, hopefully making usage of 'version' and 'revision' more consistent.
[09:50:30] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: yeah, well, I'm going you the links to TFM, so I can shout at you to RTFM for future questions :)
[09:50:39] <siebrand>	giving you, even.
[09:52:56] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: so now when i see svn, i try to figure out other things, so yeah, probably :)
[09:55:10] <Prom_cat>	Splarka its not the cahce at all
[09:55:25] <Prom_cat>	Your script has broken other things in the .js file
[09:55:34] <Prom_cat>	such as additional buttons :|
[09:55:36] <Nikerabbit>	Tim-away: if parser function like {{PLURAL}} returns ":", why does parser prepend a newline to it?
[09:56:01] <Splarka>	Prom_cat: proof?
[09:56:13] <Splarka>	http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/w/index.php?title=-&action=raw&gen=js&useskin=monobook is still cached for me, and the old cache version still works fine for me
[09:56:16] <Splarka>	no console errors
[09:56:21] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49865 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings.i18n.php: Update 'configure-setting-wgSummarySpamRegex'
[09:57:09] <Splarka>	the spacing is quite different though between the two versions, must be something you did
[09:58:37] <Splarka>	http://p.defau.lt/?Yk2a85i338o6vZpHbYDZkg vs http://p.defau.lt/?xeXQDfgGNx57wkvTni2Zag
[09:59:05] <Splarka>	Prom_cat: you corrupted it: http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.js&diff=888&oldid=861
[09:59:43] <Splarka>	Nikerabbit: known (open) bug
[09:59:58] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Nosuchpage
[10:01:07] <Splarka>	Prom_cat: revert to an earlier version and add this version without corrupting the page:  if(wgNamespaceNumber == 0 || wgNamespaceNumber == 1) addOnloadHook(function() { addPortletLink('p-cactions', wgScript + '?title=' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle),'Comment','ca-comment','Comment on this page','',document.getElementById('ca-talk')) })
[10:01:26] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: Already did http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.js&diff=890&oldid=889
[10:03:27] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: Ok the comment tab appears now, but  it links to the same page your on, instead of Comment:PAGENAME
[10:03:29] <Prom_cat>	eg
[10:03:33] <Prom_cat>	http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/wiki/Buddha%27s_Delight
[10:03:50] <Prom_cat>	and, Can I have it after the Discussion tab :)
[10:03:57] <Splarka>	sigh
[10:04:08] <Splarka>	so fix the link to whatever you want
[10:04:13] <Prom_cat>	I know im a pain in the ass, but its very much appreciated it :)
[10:04:14] <Splarka>	and no, not unless you do the work
[10:04:33] <Splarka>	the problem is addPortletLink lets you specify the /next/ node, there is always a talk page link 
[10:04:38] <Splarka>	but the link after is unpredictable
[10:05:18] <Splarka>	it is usually ca-edit ...
[10:06:02] <Splarka>	Nikerabbit: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12974
[10:06:28] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: I got it :)
[10:06:36] *Prom_cat 	hugs Splarka, thanks :)
[10:06:45] <Splarka>	rar
[10:07:18] <Splarka>	Nikerabbit: also: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529#c15
[10:09:51] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r49866 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
[10:09:51] <CIA-15>	* Added actionfailed message
[10:09:51] <CIA-15>	* Pass some flaggedrevs input vars by value
[10:10:52] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: Is the something like wgTitle that doesnt include the namespace prefix?
[10:10:59] <Prom_cat>	(EG {{BASEPAGENAME}}
[10:11:29] <Splarka>	yes, that is wgTitle
[10:11:35] <Splarka>	wgPageName has the namespace
[10:12:26] <Splarka>	http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Buddha%27s_Delight   var wgPageName = "Talk:Buddha\'s_Delight";   var wgTitle = "Buddha\'s Delight";
[10:12:58] <Splarka>	so you probably want: '?title=Comment:' + encodeURIComponent(wgTitle)
[10:13:00] <Splarka>	or something
[10:13:19] <Prom_cat>	Yeah
[10:13:22] <Prom_cat>	thats what i did
[10:13:25] <Prom_cat>	excepy
[10:13:36] <Prom_cat>	http://cheapgrub.yourwiki.net/wiki/Comment:Main_Page
[10:13:41] <Prom_cat>	Click on the comments tab
[10:13:56] <Splarka>	you have to add a Comment namespace you know
[10:14:23] <Splarka>	that isn't in the Comment namespace because you haven't added one yet
[10:14:26] <Splarka>	that is in the main namespace
[10:14:28] <Prom_cat>	define( "NS_COMMENTS", 101 );
[10:14:29] <Splarka>	notice the talk page link
[10:14:38] <Prom_cat>	$wgExtraNamespaces[NS_COMMENTS] = "Comments";
[10:14:44] <Prom_cat>	$wgNamespacesWithSubpages[NS_COMMENTS] = true;
[10:14:49] <Prom_cat>	Already done
[10:15:01] <Prom_cat>	I guess you didnt include an S on Comments ;)
[10:15:18] <Prom_cat>	or more specifically
[10:15:25] <Prom_cat>	i probably didnt mention the plural
[10:15:29] <Splarka>	um, stop blaming me for your mistakes, kthx
[10:15:40] <Splarka>	aslo you have to define a talk namespace for that
[10:15:48] <Nikerabbit>	siebrand: there is your answer too :o
[10:15:51] <Splarka>	don't argue, don't say it is useless and unneded
[10:16:00] <Splarka>	you have to, or shit breaks
[10:16:06] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces
[10:16:30] <Prom_cat>	We can talk about comments lol
[10:16:38] <Splarka>	so make Comments: ns 100, and Comments_talk: 101
[10:16:41] <Splarka>	and then ignore 101
[10:16:44] <Splarka>	hide the tabs in CSS
[10:16:54] <Splarka>	protect it with $wgNamespaceProtection
[10:19:43] <CIA-15>	03ruiz * r49867 10/ (38 files in 11 dirs):
[10:20:23] <redirete>	Hiiiiiiii people
[10:20:51] <ruizpeel>	wtf is that?
[10:21:15] <ruizpeel>	i knew i will screw something and i did, right?
[10:22:57] <ruizpeel>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49867
[10:23:04] <ruizpeel>	really, that's bad?
[10:23:23] <siebrand>	Nikerabbit: answer to...?
[10:24:31] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: what is that change? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49867
[10:24:51] <Prom_cat>	Splarka: Final question, Hiding the discussion tab  on the comments namespace?
[10:24:55] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: well, probably something that will get reverted if you don't :)
[10:25:08] <ruizpeel>	yes, please
[10:25:20] <ruizpeel>	i dont really know what happend
[10:25:42] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: well, you have clicked "OK" somewhere you should not have.
[10:25:50] <Splarka>	body.ns-100 #ca-talk, body.ns-101 #ca-talk {display:none;}
[10:26:04] <Splarka>	in Common.css (not js)
[10:26:50] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: could you take it back and tell me just how to upload just one file in a specific location?
[10:27:07] <ruizpeel>	my testing could be harmful to others
[10:27:47] <ruizpeel>	damn, i knew i will screw someting up, i knew it
[10:28:10] <redirete>	where I can find $wgPutIPinRC?
[10:28:18] <ruizpeel>	good for me that i just added some crap, not deleted everything
[10:28:20] <redirete>	last mediawiki vers
[10:29:33] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: in browse mode you can add a new file.
[10:30:17] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: could you revert whatever i do?
[10:31:41] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: I think so, but many get commit mails, and if you're display too newbie behaviour, you'll get slapped.
[10:31:59] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: so be careful, stay in your extension area.
[10:32:12] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: and find a repo somewhere to practive on.
[10:32:55] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: i don't mind, really, i didn't ask for that access and it's only makes me trouble
[10:33:59] <ruizpeel>	siebrand: so please, revert this and i'm going out of here, sorry for everything
[10:34:11] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: oh well... Happy to have you :)
[10:34:35] <ruizpeel>	you can delete my account and do what you normally do, storing two files on ftp looks a lot easier
[10:34:35] <siebrand>	ruizpeel: don't be discouraged after the first failure. Everyone has to learn sometine.
[10:34:49] <ruizpeel>	yeah, whatever
[10:35:16] *siebrand 	raises an eyebrow.
[10:36:18] <redirete>	sidebrand can you help me?
[10:37:05] <redirete>	@sidebrand I am looking to anonimize my wiki
[10:37:17] <redirete>	like "no ip logs"
[10:37:21] <redirete>	ever
[10:37:45] <redirete>	and also to ban ip ranges (gov ones)
[10:38:20] <redirete>	but the first thing is not to keep log of registered/unregistered users
[10:39:38] <Nikerabbit>	what does the log matter if the information is still there in Special:Listusers
[10:40:56] <redirete>	there is no possibility to exclude ip logging at all?
[10:41:21] <siebrand>	Hmm, someone who's got all of mediawiki checked out who can revert r49867? I only have trunk...
[10:41:22] <redirete>	at least I don't want people to see ips of contributors
[10:44:13] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49868 10/ (README.txt conf/ db/ format hooks/ locks/): Revert r49867. Newbie mistake.
[10:44:21] <siebrand>	Hmm, think I managed.
[10:44:33] <minute>	redirete: They don't\can't.
[10:47:26] <redirete>	sad
[10:47:29] <redirete>	:(
[10:48:21] <Splarka>	just disable all anon editing!
[10:48:26] <redirete>	for now I se $wgPutIPinRC=false
[10:48:26] <Splarka>	problem solved ^_^
[10:48:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) r49790 breaks MediaWiki installation when using table prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18579 critical; Normal; MediaWiki: Database; (ahmad.m.sherif)
[10:55:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) r49790 breaks MediaWiki installation when using table prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18579  +comment (10siebrand)
[11:08:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Newline added to template and parser function result breaks parsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12974  normal->high;  +i18n; +comment (10siebrand)
[11:10:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) r49790 breaks MediaWiki installation when using table prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18579  (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[11:11:29] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Templates inside of tables appear incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529  +comment (10siebrand)
[11:11:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Newline added to template and parser function result breaks parsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12974  (10siebrand)
[11:17:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) r49790 breaks MediaWiki installation when using table prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18579  (10siebrand)
[11:17:17] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) r49790 breaks MediaWiki installation when using table prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18579  (10siebrand)
[11:23:36] <CIA-15>	03werdna * r49869 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql: Fix MW installation for table-prefixes
[11:23:43] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) r49790 breaks MediaWiki installation when using table prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18579  +comment (10agarrett)
[11:23:53] <CIA-15>	03shinjiman * r49870 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese
[11:40:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show move log when viewing/creating a deleted page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16950  (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[11:57:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show the active users mentioned in Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15456  (10siebrand)
[11:57:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show the active users mentioned in Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15456   +need-review +patch +schema-change; +comment (10siebrand)
[12:01:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Number of "active users" is a rather confusing statistic - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16775  +comment (10siebrand)
[12:04:31] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New preferences page does not contain e-mail confirmation data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18580 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (siebrand)
[12:07:34] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49871 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: email -> e-mail in 'prefs-email'
[12:07:48] <werdna>	siebrand: ok ok I'll get there
[12:07:52] <werdna>	too tired at the moment :))
[12:13:20] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Enable e-mail from other users setting not displayed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18581 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (siebrand)
[12:13:30] <siebrand>	werdna: np. Trying you to provide with info you can work with :)
[12:16:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable e-mail from other users setting not displayed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18581  normal->major; normal->high; +comment (10siebrand)
[12:18:17] <werdna>	siebrand: :))
[12:18:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable e-mail from other users setting not displayed correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18581  (10siebrand)
[12:18:35] <werdna>	siebrand: make sure you assign to me
[12:19:07] <siebrand>	werdna: yeah, did (2x)
[12:26:14] <werdna>	yay
[12:41:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:Extension incompatible with IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18582 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Configure; (siebrand)
[12:41:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Internet Explorer 8 (MSIE8) issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13361  (10siebrand)
[12:45:27] <VasilievVV>	werdna: I think fields like "other time zone" and "other stub theresold" should be hidden (not made read-only) unless "other" option is selected
[12:45:56] <siebrand>	VasilievVV: he said he was tires a little earlier. Maybe report it in a bugzilla?
[12:46:00] <siebrand>	tired, even.
[12:46:26] <siebrand>	VasilievVV: you can assign it directly to him (also is request)
[12:46:28] <werdna>	VasilievVV: could be done maybe
[12:46:36] <siebrand>	oh. It is awake :)
[12:50:50] <werdna>	slightly
[12:51:00] <werdna>	been out into the city for anzac day
[12:51:34] <werdna>	and at girl's house
[12:53:10] <siebrand>	werdna: heh, getting all kinds of interesting preferences scenario's reproducable :)
[12:53:20] <werdna>	oh well
[12:53:37] <siebrand>	werdna: with OnlineStatus extension enabled, preferences cannot be saved until a radio button is selected.
[12:53:57] <werdna>	ew
[12:54:06] <siebrand>	not certain if this is an OnlineStatus issue, or a generic preferences issue.
[12:54:13] <VasilievVV>	werdna: also, controls on tabls like "E-mail options" are padded whilsh they should not
[12:54:25] <werdna>	well, file bugs
[12:54:26] <siebrand>	annoying is that although the report is "something wrong here", no details are provided.
[12:58:33] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) OnlineStatus default preferences flawed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18583 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: OnlineStatus; (siebrand)
[12:58:59] <siebrand>	werdna: ^^ (cc-ed you on it)
[12:59:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add 'hideuser' right to CheckUser group Wikimedia-wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18313  (10FT2.wiki)
[12:59:19] <werdna>	I saw
[13:02:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) replace "show/hide" by an icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18577  +comment (10happy-melon)
[13:10:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Extension incompatible with IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18582  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[13:13:50] <inad922>	hello
[13:14:10] <siebrand>	ialex: hey. Yeah, just more specific. IE8 wasn't there back then.
[13:14:22] <inad922>	Could someone tell me how to make references like thos on the bottom of the wikipedia pages?
[13:14:30] <inad922>	those*
[13:14:43] <siebrand>	inad922: in your personal wiki, or on wikipedia itself?
[13:14:59] <inad922>	my personal wiki
[13:15:06] <ialex>	!e Cite
[13:15:06] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[13:15:30] <siebrand>	inad922: what ialex said.
[13:15:54] <inad922>	thanks
[13:16:00] <ialex>	siebrand: JavaScript is broken in all IE's versions :)
[13:16:53] <ialex>	siebrand: and I know more or less what is the problem :)
[13:17:21] <siebrand>	ialex: given the large user group, that's a debatable position :)
[13:18:06] <ialex>	well, IE itself is a problem :D
[13:18:14] <siebrand>	btw, I only came across it because I needed an admin user logged in to enable/disable extensions from IE, and really test with a testuser from FF :)
[13:19:25] *ialex 	will fix it when he'll find firebug for IE :)
[13:21:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add 'hideuser' right to CheckUser group Wikimedia-wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18313  (10lar)
[13:25:07] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow ReplaceText on page names only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18584 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: ReplaceText; (siebrand)
[13:32:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Moving many subpages requires loads of memory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18585 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (siebrand)
[13:39:19] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r49872 10/trunk/extensions/SkinPerNamespace/SkinPerNamespace.php: 
[13:39:19] <CIA-15>	* Per request at http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:IAlex&oldid=251359#Question_regarding_the_SkinPerNameSpace_Extension : added $wgSkinPerSpecialPage to allow to set a skin per special page
[13:39:19] <CIA-15>	* Added version
[13:51:01] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r49873 10/trunk/phase3/docs/hooks.txt: Follow-up r49790: remove from docs/hooks.txt hooks that were removed from code
[13:51:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add 'hideuser' right to CheckUser group Wikimedia-wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18313  +comment (10Annabel)
[13:54:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) replace "show/hide" by an icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18577  (10FT2.wiki)
[13:57:35] <inad922>	thanks for the help again ialex siebrand it works fine
[13:57:54] <ialex>	no problem :)
[13:58:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OnlineStatus default preferences flawed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18583  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[14:16:15] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r49874 10/trunk/extensions/OnlineStatus/OnlineStatus.php: 
[14:16:15] <CIA-15>	* (bug 18583) Added default values for new preferences so that it doesn't break when there's no user-specific value
[14:16:15] <CIA-15>	* Fixed some preferences names
[14:16:36] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) OnlineStatus default preferences flawed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18583  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[14:18:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Moving many subpages requires loads of memory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18585  +comment (10p858snake)
[14:18:45] <ThomasV>	is there any review/scap in sight ?
[14:24:26] <ialex>	ThomasV: doesn't seem so :(
[14:25:29] <ThomasV>	ialex: is brion on vacation ?
[14:26:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) replace "show/hide" by an icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18577  (10FT2.wiki)
[14:33:30] <mindrones>	hello, I have a question: is it possible to transclude a page from wikipedia to another wiki? (not thinking at the server stress induced)
[14:33:55] <CIA-15>	03btongminh * r49875 10/branches/NssMySQLAuth-rewrite/NssMySQLAuth/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Update error handling, among other things.
[14:35:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Moving many subpages requires loads of memory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18585  (10siebrand)
[14:39:33] <CIA-15>	03btongminh * r49876 10/branches/NssMySQLAuth-rewrite/NssMySQLAuth/NssMySQLAuthPlugin.php: Fix typo
[14:40:14] <babilen>	hi! does anybody know if it is possible to import wikipedia dumps into a postgresql db?
[14:44:20] <CIA-15>	03thomasv * r49877 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ (ProofreadPage.i18n.php ProofreadPage.php proofread.js): adding quality level zero for empty pages
[14:54:02] <ialex>	ThomasV: don't think so
[14:54:54] <ThomasV>	well, the scapmap looks full
[15:14:56] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r49878 10/trunk/extensions/OnlineStatus/OnlineStatus.php: 
[15:14:56] <CIA-15>	* Removed check for MW_SUPPORTS_PARSERFIRSTCALLINIT since this extension require 1.15+
[15:14:56] <CIA-15>	* Added version
[15:17:50] *babilen 	expresses his thanks for the great MediaWiki markup language
[15:57:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add 'hideuser' right to CheckUser group Wikimedia-wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18313  +comment (10brian.mcneil)
[15:58:32] <siebrand>	babilen: thank you on behalf of the devs that developed it. (and let's hope you were not being sarcastic :P)
[16:06:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) superscripts with formatting don't work in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17562  +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[16:25:21] <gcboy>	:P
[16:41:20] *siebrand 	mumbles something.
[16:44:18] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) superscripts with formatting don't work in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17562  +comment (10siebrand)
[16:44:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) superscripts with formatting don't work in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17562  (10siebrand)
[17:08:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add 'hideuser' right to CheckUser group Wikimedia-wide - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18313  +comment (10jayvdb)
[17:20:42] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49879 10/trunk/extensions/uniwiki/CreatePage/CreatePage.php: Add special page to page tools section in SpecialPages
[18:48:01] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49880 10/trunk/ (44 files in 9 dirs): 
[18:48:01] <CIA-15>	* add uniwiki/CreatePage extension to core
[18:48:01] <CIA-15>	* add 'Create a page' to default sidebar
[18:48:01] <CIA-15>	* remove uniwiki/CreatePage from Translate
[18:48:01] <CIA-15>	* remove uniwiki/CreatePage from UniwikiSettings.php
[18:48:02] <CIA-15>	* add special page aliases of CreatePage extension to MessagesXx.php
[18:51:07] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49881 10/trunk/extensions/uniwiki/CreatePage/CreatePage.i18n.php: Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net
[18:57:28] <CIA-15>	03shinjiman * r49882 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates Cantonese for extension messages
[19:07:35] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49883 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Follow up to r49880. Fix casing for CreatePage in $wgSpecialPageGroups
[19:18:28] <CIA-15>	03shinjiman * r49884 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese
[19:19:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Query pages should limit to content namespaces, not just main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8130  +comment (10nephele)
[19:23:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Create otrs-admins@lists.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18586 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (guillom.pom)
[19:40:54] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r49885 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialCreatePage.php: (log message trimmed)
[19:40:54] <CIA-15>	Follow-up r49880, tweaks to Special:CreatePage:
[19:40:54] <CIA-15>	* Fix doc, use @ingroup, NOT @addtogroup
[19:40:54] <CIA-15>	* Allow to use the subpage paramter if the "target" URL parameter is not passed
[19:40:54] <CIA-15>	* Fixed a fatal error when calling Special:CreatePage?target=> (GET request with invalid target)
[19:40:55] <CIA-15>	* Escaping messages used for Skin::makeLinkObj() since they won't be escaped by that function
[19:40:59] <CIA-15>	* Fixed double escaping for 'createpage-submitbutton'
[20:02:20] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r49886 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialBooksources.php: Fix group name
[20:31:25] <Rich_Morin>	How can I set the page title (as used in the browser window's drag bar) in MW?
[20:34:38] <ialex>	Rich_Morin: Use {{DISPLAYTITLE:}}
[20:35:30] <ialex>	(put the name you want beetween : and }}, it must normalize the current page's name)
[20:36:38] <Rich_Morin>	tnx!
[20:41:02] <Rich_Morin>	Is there a particular place that has to be put?  More to the point, is there documenation for this?
[20:41:35] <Rich_Morin>	ah - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Miscellany
[20:45:00] <Rich_Morin>	nop - still not working.  owell
[20:45:49] <Rich_Morin>	hmmm - I think I need to allow it.
[20:46:51] <ialex>	Rich_Morin: if you want to set any title with DISPLAYTITLE, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictDisplayTitle
[20:47:25] <Rich_Morin>	saw that, tnx
[20:56:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVGs fail to render silently if they contain an <image /> element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3537  (10codedread)
[20:59:40] <CIA-15>	03siebrand * r49887 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Fix typo in 'tooltip-ca-history' as pointed out for r49864 by UV (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49864#c2289)
[21:25:41] <chuck>	Is there any way to tell MediaWiki to not add ports to the urls in the UDP rc feed?
[21:33:36] <ialex>	chuck: only for UDP notifications, or all URLs?
[21:33:48] <chuck>	Well, other URLs are working afaik
[21:34:03] <chuck>	We've just noticed that UDP RC notifications have started tacking on the server's port number
[21:34:27] <ialex>	you can override $wgServer
[21:35:01] <chuck>	I think we did.. lemme check
[21:35:19] <chuck>	yeah we did
[21:35:59] <ialex>	ah ha!
[21:36:10] <chuck>	aha?
[21:36:18] <ialex>	$wgInternalServer = $wgServer; just after changing $wgServer
[21:44:50] <CIA-15>	03ashley * r49888 10/trunk/extensions/MultiUpload/SpecialMultipleUpload.body.php: MultiUpload: cleanup + added missing global to cleanupTempFile()
[21:56:24] <Sylvanus>	hi
[21:56:47] <Sylvanus>	I've got a small question: One MySQL db, multiple mediawiki installations that access to the one db. Is that okay?
[21:57:10] <Sylvanus>	or is that a bad scenario when doing load balancing?
[21:57:22] <Genius101>	it will work
[21:57:32] <Genius101>	but im not sure how well
[21:58:38] <Sylvanus>	okay
[21:58:47] <Sylvanus>	but there won't be data corruption, will there?
[21:59:04] <Genius101>	if you use a different prefix, i don't think so
[22:01:41] <Sylvanus>	I do not!
[22:02:21] <Genius101>	you don't use a different prefix in your db?
[22:02:44] <Sylvanus>	no, since I want to display the *same* wiki
[22:03:04] <Sylvanus>	on two servers, to make some load balancing
[22:03:40] <Genius101>	then that's a bit too advanced for me: im still a newbie
[22:04:52] <Sylvanus>	hmpf
[22:04:53] <Sylvanus>	okay
[22:05:01] <Sylvanus>	thanks, nevertheless ;-)
[22:08:19] <Genius101>	no problem
[22:13:03] <charitwo>	!rar | Splarka 
[22:13:03] --mwbot--	Splarka: rar
[22:13:53] <Splarka>	indeed
[22:22:43] <Sylvanus>	erhm
[22:22:56] <Sylvanus>	I want to migrate from "simple images directory" to hashed upload directory. Is that possible?
[22:23:48] <Sylvanus>	I think I simply have to move each image to the corresponding /x/yz directory. Is there any method how x, y and z are set?
[22:24:21] <Shinjiman>	http://www.flickr.com/photos/83734473@N00/3473868811/sizes/l/
[22:24:48] <Shinjiman>	I've made the revision number can be shown on the Version page. :)
[22:26:03] <Sylvanus>	nice
[22:34:41] <Splarka>	Sylvanus x/xy are the first/firstsecond characters in the md5 hash of the file name (not contents)
[22:35:05] <Sylvanus>	hmkey
[22:35:07] <Splarka>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Wiki.png
[22:35:13] <Sylvanus>	is there any maintenance script that could do the job for me?
[22:35:21] <Splarka>	b/bc from bc32c4ef985f1924664e5f5c7359ef62
[22:35:34] <Sylvanus>	yes, okay
[22:35:39] <Splarka>	hmm
[22:35:42] <Sylvanus>	I could even write me such a script on my self
[22:36:07] <Sylvanus>	is there an advantage when I use the hashed directories?
[22:36:21] <Splarka>	check all the php files with 'Images' in the name, in maintenance/
[22:36:47] <Splarka>	well, the main advantage is you don't get all your images in a single directory
[22:37:21] <Sylvanus>	hmm
[22:38:00] <Splarka>	" Filenames are MD5-hashed, and since many filesystems don't handle large directories well, uploads are broken into subdirectories"
[22:38:39] <Sylvanus>	but on the other hand, most modern filesystems handle large directories quite well
[22:38:48] <Splarka>	how many do you have now, and how popular are you planning to become? heh
[22:40:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restore revision numbers in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18242  (10shinjiman)
[22:41:15] <Sylvanus>	well, about 200 pictures today, no more than 10,000 pictures
[22:41:21] <Sylvanus>	at the end
[22:41:38] <Sylvanus>	well, I still wondered if I could migrate at some day
[22:53:53] <ScarredSun>	Does anyone here know what right controls the reverting of image files, not image pages?
[22:54:00] <ScarredSun>	I'm having problems with vandals reverting image files
[22:58:27] <OverlordQ>	reupload maybe?
[22:59:14] <Splarka>	hmm, the logic would probably be in ImagePage.php
[22:59:45] <Splarka>			} elseif( $local && $wgUser->isLoggedIn() && $this->title->userCan( 'edit' ) ) {
[22:59:45] <Splarka>				if( $file->isDeleted(File::DELETED_FILE) ) {
[22:59:45] <Splarka>					$row .= wfMsgHtml('filehist-revert');
[23:00:17] <Splarka>	and the else for that second if is the revert link
[23:00:19] <Splarka>	that seems dumb
[23:01:18] <Splarka>	unless userCan takes reupload into account
[23:09:28] <Splarka>	ScarredSun: it looks like if someone can edit an image page, they can revert to previous versions... I think
[23:10:01] <ScarredSun>	It doesn't seem dependent on upload/reupload, though
[23:10:15] <Splarka>	indeed
[23:10:18] <Splarka>	which is rather annoying
[23:10:33] <Splarka>	you can semiprotect a whole namespace with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceProtection (though users must be able to edit in that namespace to upload, so don't overprotect it)
[23:11:32] <Splarka>	$wgNamespaceProtection[NS_IMAGE]      = array( 'upload' );
[23:11:38] <Splarka>	^ I /think/ might do what you want
[23:12:23] <Splarka>	(that is, tie editing in that namespace to the upload permission)
[23:19:00] *Splarka 	idles